Anti-WOKE Comedy and Going Viral ｜ Ryan Long
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Summary
Comedian and filmmaker Ryan Long joins Jemele to discuss racism and anti-racism in America, and why he doesn t toe the left-wing party line. He also talks about why he hasn t been canceled yet.
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Hey everybody, Michael Knowles here. All this talk of anti-racism, the Woka-Cola
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campaign to make us all be less white, all this kind of insane racial grievance has me thinking
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out to one of my favorite videos from the entire summer. This was put out by my friend Ryan Long,
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a comedian who, I'm not saying the guy's conservative, he just does not toe the left
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wing party line. I chatted with Ryan about racism and anti-racism over the summer. I think
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what he had to say is truer now than it ever has been. Take a listen.
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There's a strange phenomenon going around in politics today, which is that if you look at the
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extreme left, like the woke left, and you look at, you know, the four like white supremacists left in
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America, you know, I guess what you would call the extreme right, even though some people quibble
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about that. When you listen to them talk, they sound eerily similar. You may even have seen this
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video going around the internet recently from the comedian Ryan Long.
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It's like he's a mind reader. I mean, I've been pushing for segregation forever and my man does
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what? I created an improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic people. Guy segregates comedy on my
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birthday. White people need to stop wearing dreadlocks and they need to stop appropriating
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black people's music. Shaved heads and country music the way God intended. You know, all white
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people are racist. I'm listening. So it goes on. You should go check out the entire video. Well,
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we've got that man who put out that video and lots of other really funny content. Ryan Long,
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a comedian and filmmaker from America's hat, Toronto, Canada, but he now lives in New York
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City amid all the crazy lockdowns. You may have seen him on Netflix, NBC, MTV, Fuse TV, The Score,
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but nobody watches any of those like legacy channels anymore. Probably you've seen him on his YouTube
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channel or you've listened to his podcast, The Boys Cast with Ryan Long. Ryan, thank you for being here.
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Hey, buddy. Thanks for having me, dude. I love your stuff. I think it's extremely funny.
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And the, the thing that shocks me most about it is I don't understand with the way that you have
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poked fun, well, you know, also at the right, but especially at the left, how you've not been
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canceled yet. Why are you still around? Why are you not canceled? Dude, there's a, there was like a
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bunch of people on the internet. Every time I open my phone right now, it's a bunch of people yelling
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at each other and yelling at me. This is the virtual rage, the virtual rage room of Twitter.
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So people know, definitely people have gotten canceled, but are tried to cancel me. But one
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of the funny things is people like me that aren't in the industry anymore, and I'm kind of doing my
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own thing. And they, so now they're kind of like canceling each other because they go, oh, we're
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going to take your job away. And you go, what jobs are you taking away? My RRS, my RSS feed. So I'm not
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in that game anymore. So a lot of people like me are doing our own thing because the industry
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Well, it's funny you mentioned that because, you know, I was, I was only half joking when I said,
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I don't care about NBC, MTV, like none of that really interests me.
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It's like your content, your YouTube channel is way more interesting to me. And the same goes for a lot
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of other comedian friends. That's much more interesting than getting some network TV co-star
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Dude, those networks right now are basically going to everyone in America and they're saying,
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this is what you like now. And everyone's like, no, it's not. What are you talking about?
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Like if I take the crazy pills and they're like, here's your new favorite comedian. And everyone's
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like, what? This guy is, you know, they, they used to do this in old Hollywood. You'd say it'd be
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like, your next movie star is going to be Johnny Smith. You know, and they'd go to some small town
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and find some random guy and foist him on you. And that, that doesn't seem to work anymore.
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No, they, the, probably the most recent one of those was John Krasinski. After the office,
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there was like 95 movies where they're like, huh, John from Jim from the office. And everyone's
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like, I mean, I guess he's okay. I guess if I have to, I guess I'll watch it. You know,
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on the, on the point of being canceled for politics, your videos have gone viral, especially
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because you've dinged the left, but you've also dinged the right too. You know, it's not
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like you're, you're kind of cutting both ways here.
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Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm like, a lot of times I'm just digging like dogmatic thinking and I'm not
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even necessarily saying anything about the ideology as much as like the people who make
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it their entire identity and try to push it on everyone else.
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Yeah. I mean, would, would you, would you consider yourself a conservative or you're kind of just,
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you're a comedian. You're kind of outside of politics or partisan politics generally.
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Yeah. That's what I'd like to think of it. I kind of like to think of it. If there was two
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people fighting over who's going to be the teacher and I'm the kid at the back of the class,
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sort of making fun of it, but people, so when you say that, people always go, so you're a
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centrist. I go, no, I'm not playing the game. I'm not part of the game. And that used to be okay,
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to be completely honest. It didn't, you know, and that's obviously something that's, you know,
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way worse on the woke left where they want your, they want your political identity to be like your
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entire part of your personality. It used to be like, you know, all this guy, he's into football and
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he did this. Now it's like, oh, so-and-so he's a liberal or he's a conservative. And you know,
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everyone has their leanings, but that didn't used to have to be like the entire thing that
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defines you and who you hang out with and who you date and what shows you watch. So that's
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one of the parts that's extra crazy right now. That used to be the idea of the artist actually
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going back to a medieval comedy, going back to like Dante who wrote the divine comedy.
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He has this, he has this famous, there's this famous line in the, in the poem where he says,
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I left partisan politics, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to be a party of one. And he used to
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think of comedians as like, yeah, he's a party of one. You know, he's going to dig into these guys.
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He's going to dig into these guys. He's going to show these absurdities. But I noticed the
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criticism of you is not coming from the right. It's, it's only coming from one side of the
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political aisle right now. Yeah. I even said that 99% of the people that were mad at my video work
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in entertainment or the media, normal people don't care. Well, it's kind of like the, the,
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the woke left, you know, they kind of run Hollywood and they're the predominant power right now.
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Right. It's kind of like, if you think of them as, so they're, they're always kicking people out,
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right? They're, you're not allowed in our club and the right. And far as media goes,
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they're always like, Hey, can you come over here? Come on. The water's warm. Come on in here.
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Right. And they kind of say, Hey, the, so it's the rights, everyone's trying to push you to the
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right, regardless of what your ideology is. But one of the reasons that you want to stay,
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I personally want to stay away from even like planting a flag down is cause I mean,
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you've probably been alive long enough to see those two words change so much in such a short
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period of time. So when you start saying I'm a this, and then six months later, they can tell
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you, Oh, remember that thing you are, it means something completely different now. And you think
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this now, and you think this now, and you go, you know what, I'm just not going to take a label if
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you're going to change them every 15 minutes. And I have to like update what I think.
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Of course, it's so much easier, you know, rather than having to keep up with whatever the latest
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thing is changing out. It seems like it changes hourly. Instead, you can just think what you think.
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Yeah. Who do we hate? Who are we going to, who are we going to tar and feather out of here?
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Well, you know, on that, on that point of like the industry, tar and feathering people. I remember
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when Adam Carolla started his podcast, he called it the pirate ship. And he said, I'm not going to
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be beholden to Hollywood. I'm going to be in a pirate ship. And he said, okay, that's nice. You're
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in your own little area, but all the big money, all the big shows that that's all in mainstream
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Hollywood. Now I look at all the biggest shows. I look guys like Joe Rogan, for instance,
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right? Joe Rogan is a zillion times bigger than virtually anybody who works in mainstream
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Hollywood. Do you see, do you see Hollywood getting its kind of mainstream power back?
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Or is this, is this isolated, you know, go your own way, do your own channel. Is that the future
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of entertainment? Yeah. And it's not just, I mean, they lost control of the press tour. Like you were
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saying, like it used to be, you have a movie and you go, okay, we'll put you on this show,
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this show, this show. Now it's like, if you want to do that, you call Joe Rogan. And if he feels like
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it, you don't have control of him. So yeah, you're right. I mean, it's so crazy to watch that
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happen, but it's not just Hollywood. I mean, it's the, it's a, the universities it's, you know,
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this virus has gone everywhere. Right. So the amount of people that just work at some company
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and they're getting their stuff shoved down their throat every second. So it's so pervasive. It's
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hard to, and there's this loop of, you know, advertisers needing to be woke, them making woke
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content. Cause if you say, oh, we're going to do this edgy show, your advertisers are like, well,
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we want the no Trump show, you know? So it's the, someone would have to like clear out the
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whole regime of, you know, 20, you know, 20 year old girl opinions. If they, if they wanted to
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actually say, we're going to make South park again or something like that. Right. So I think
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it's a complicated scenario, but it sounds like this is going to happen and they're going to probably
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like they do with everything else. Like they're doing with podcasting, they get into the game late
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and they're going to just have to drop boatloads of cash at people's houses. If they want to get
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back in the game five years late, you know? Well, speaking of 20 something year old girl
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opinions, it was actually the way I first found you is my wife who, you know, is a little more
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reasonable than most 20 something year old girls. But my wife, my wife said, you got to watch this
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guy. This guy's really funny. And my first reaction was, okay, it's going to be one of these,
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like how many times do you hear, oh, you got to watch this funny video on the internet. And,
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but the guy isn't, he's not a comedian. He's like just a guy who did a funny thing on the internet
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one time. You think, okay, whatever. But the thing that strikes me about you is you're not
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just a guy who did a funny thing on the internet. You are an actual comedian and there is a huge
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difference here, you know, between just some kind of hobbyist and an actual pro from your vantage
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within the comedy world, the pro real comedy world. What is the consensus here now? I mean,
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what, what is funny? What is, what are people who actually make people laugh for a living?
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What are they going toward? Well, that's why like doing comedy clubs for the last 10 years,
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three times a night, you know, actually finding out what real people think instead of what these
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people do, where they design what they think they should think and then work backwards.
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They're like, well, we know what we want them to think. Let's move backwards from there. We'll
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design everything backwards from the ideology of like where we'd like it to end up. Whereas,
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you know, I've always been like sort of a counterculture guy and a punk guy. Like I know
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if I went out there and I was, I said, Trump's a loser. And I could see people like kind of being
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like, all right. Yeah. Like I hear that I could, I could turn on my TV and have people yell at me
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all day. You know, if I want, if I want to listen to, if I want to get yelled at by a comedian,
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I can listen to Stephen Colbert. So, I mean, for me, it's, I've, I've always kind of been into
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actual counterculture and kind of speaking against what the mainstream ideology is and what the
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viewpoints that I feel like are shoved down my throat and what we're forced to lie about.
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Yeah. But it doesn't mean everyone has to do that. I mean, depends on your sensibilities,
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right? Like a lot of comedians just want to go up there and make jokes about Uber. But the problem
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is those comedians that used to be, Hey, I'm going to make jokes about coffee and Uber. The world's
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like, also you have to be into politics now. And they're like, uh, I don't know. I guess Trump's
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bad because they're not equipped for that fight. Right. Right. I think even, I think it was like
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Seinfeld said, they said, why don't you make Trump jokes? And he said, I want to make jokes about
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strawberry pie. Like I don't, that is not what I, what I want to do. I like this idea of the,
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the John Krasinski effect that, that, you know, Hollywood, that these, these opinion makers are
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saying, look, this is what you have to like. This is what's going to be really funny. And you're going
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to go to the movies and watch it. It's, it's what they did to us in 2016. Right. They said, yeah,
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that, you know, what people really want is Hillary Clinton. You're like, are you, uh, have you,
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are you listening to yourself right now? Or frankly, even in 2020, they say,
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you know what the youths want with the kids that they want? Joe Biden. The people are crying out.
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And you just think like, you are so disconnected from reality that a, a reality TV star media mogul,
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who's probably never read two books about politics is much more in line with what the average common,
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common American is thinking than any of the people you're putting up.
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Oh, 100%. And then on top of that, they use like dirty tricks,
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like racial guilt and stuff to try to, you know, force you into those things. Like they,
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you know, that's some of the stuff I talk about in the, in the thing they go,
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if you're not black, if you're black and you don't vote this way, you lose your black card.
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You see them saying that as like, what kind of cult stuff? What are you, everyone's like,
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what are you talking about? Yeah. You know? Oh, so I'm black. This is the list of opinions I got
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to have, or I'm a trait. Like, what are you talking about? So I think there's a lot of that stuff
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going on and they're in a big way missing it. But so people say there's not good comedy.
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There's lots of really good comedy. I have a lot of friends that are making a lot of good stuff.
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The industry just needs to catch up in a big way. Well, I also noticed this thing, which is,
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yeah, now they're saying if you don't vote a certain way, if you don't, you know, you're,
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you're a traitor to your race, you're a Nazi, you can be a black white supremacist. Now you can be a
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Jewish neo-Nazi now. And they, I guess they don't even hear what they're saying, but there's this weird
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effect that's going on, which is the more and more that people move away from doing what they tell
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them to do, the, the louder and shriller and more desperate these opinion makers seem to get,
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you know, is that, is that a sign of, of them losing their grip of power or is it a sign that
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they're about to clamp down? No, it's the, it's definitely a sign that they've already, I mean,
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they've already lost their grip of power, but they still own the institutions. I mean, they've
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lost the control of people's minds a long time, you know, years ago, this COVID stuff, it started
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to flip, you know, back up again, but it basically feels like you're a company. And instead of being
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like, Hey, uh, our red shirts are selling by the millions. Let's, uh, let's sell more of those.
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And they go up production on red. And you're like, why? It's like, we just think that red's better for
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the people. So they're just, and you go, what? They don't want that. What are you talking about?
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I was reading, uh, and another reason, like a lot of my friends are so sick of this stuff,
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whatever color they are, but you know, most of my friends is like, we're just comedians. No one,
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but you know, that's how we consider ourselves. Right. But they go, there was this big article
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that was kind of going viral and it was like, why black guys need to talk about their male
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privilege or whatever. Right. And it was just all the same stuff. It was like, did you like white
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privilege? Well, here's black from the guys that brought you from the creators of male privilege.
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Now here's black male privilege, all of the guilt of male privilege, but repurposed for black men.
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And you're like, and you, and you think a black guy wants to read this and be like, I'm in. Yeah.
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Love it. Yeah. No one likes this stuff. Shut up. Yeah. There's like an infomercial.
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It's like, but, but wait, there's more. Not only do you get your white privilege,
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but you also get your black privilege. You know, I was, I was watching this hearing talk about comedy gold.
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I was watching this hearing the other day of all of these democratic politicians, including Eric
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Swalwell, my absolute favorite grilling the attorney general, Bill Barr. And so all of these
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Democrats are grilling Barr and they say, well, Hey, do you think that if we just have completely
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widespread mail-in ballots with no structures in place to collect them and no accountability,
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do you think there could be interference in the election? And Barr says, yeah, I think probably
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there could. And the lady goes, well, do you have any evidence? Do you have any scientific studies?
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Do you have any proof of that? He goes, no, I have common sense. I guess this is in short supply now,
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but I guess common sense to me is kind of the prerequisite for comedy. And it would seem to me
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kind of why the comedy is moving a little bit more to the right. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's,
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it's definitely, there's a situation where your average person finds themselves leaning towards
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the right because they just, they go, cause this left basically says you need to be on either side.
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Yeah. And then normal people go, all right, well, I know I'm not that, you know, especially most
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people, especially, you know, I'm from Canada and Toronto. Right. So it's like, you know, you kind
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of grow up in a liberal metropolitan. You sort of, you know, for the most part, only hear one side.
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Right. And that just became the sort of, so you kind of, you never really paid that much attention
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to what, you know, maybe you kind of, you get into libertarian, some people kind of become
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libertarians or whatever. Right. But you know, all you were told was like, that's the bad thing.
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And they go, well, you got to have a side and you're, I just don't want to be part of this.
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And they go, well, you have to. And then you start being like, I guess the other side then I don't
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know, but that's why it's funny for, for comedy, especially because they go, your art's supposed to
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have a message, right? Which they mean, you know, and you're like, yeah, the Christian church also
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thinks that my art should be propaganda for a movement. But what they really mean is your
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art should say my message. And I'm like, cause if they go, art's got to have a message and you go,
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okay, my art's the Trump's awesome. And you're like, okay, well, it can't be that.
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Yeah. Whatever it is. You know, I was talking to Adam Carolla the other day and Adam and I disagree
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on many pretty foundational political issues. Like we actually, you wouldn't, if you were to
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construct a political party, you wouldn't look at all the people and say like, yeah, those two guys
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are going to be on the same side. And so Adam has been asked, are you a conservative? And he's like,
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he's like, here's what happened. One time I said that, that parents should feed their children lunch.
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I was asked about like a school lunch issue. And I said, yeah, parents should make a ham sandwich for
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their kids. And then the left got so angry at me that I guess that makes me a conservative. So that's
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what I am. I'm a, I'm a feed your kids conservative. Who knows? But I guess that's kind of the box that
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people are being pushed into now. Yeah. I think I'll, you know, and it comes down to the,
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the, I, the truth is, you know, the, the way America's designed, you know, where you have
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the conservatives, they're kind of the dad and the liberals that are kind of the mom.
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And it's like, no one wants to be tyrannically run by either of them, but you know, one seems a
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little crazy right now. So, you know, a lot of times the, the, the pushback isn't that bad. And
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me personally, I'm like, would be more of a freedom versus safety person personally,
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you know, and I don't necessarily need to like impose the way that I think on everyone.
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But that's one of the reasons I moved to America instead of Canada, because, you know, I'm like,
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you know, I think that freedom and liberty are important and individualism and stuff like that.
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But if you get to a scenario where they go, one of these gangs is going to rule over you.
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And, and then all of a sudden you're fighting. It's like in the, anything, all of the fights between
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people happen. Like the truth is everyone wants to say that everyone argues in these racial groups
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hate each other. Truth is everyone gets along pretty well until you say, we're going to pick
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one of us and everyone else has to live that way. You know, as long as people get to live their own
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life the way they want to, we all get along pretty well when we're not being imposed each other's
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beliefs on each other. And I like this idea of the left is the mom, you know, but it's like that,
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not like the most nurturing mom in the world, like kind of a little more of an overbearing mom.
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I just, did you see this thing that was going around on Instagram where women were posting
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like black and white hot photos of themselves and with the hashtag challenge accepted. Like
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it was like a challenge, you know, to post a selfie on Instagram. That's that to me, that's,
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that's the way that the mom is the left right now. It's like the mom posting the selfie saying that
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it's, they're really brave and stunning and beautiful.
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Yeah. And they're the mom. There's also the mom that's like telling you that you need to wear a
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skateboard helmet if you're going to, you know, just skateboard on the driveway.
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Yeah. But then they're also like, more importantly, all your friends need to wear them. And if your
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friends don't have them, I don't want you hanging around those kids anymore.
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Yeah. I don't like Johnny. You stay away from Johnny. And, and Johnny had a tweet two years ago.
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Yeah. Yeah. He's going to tell you some, he's going to tell you some Simpsons quotes.
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Like, so that's, this is my worry for comedy though, is like your stuff's great. You know, a lot of,
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actually not a lot, but a number of other guys are putting out great stuff these days.
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Yeah. But, you know, Christopher Hitchens, when he once said that women aren't funny,
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he made this distinction between being funny and having a sense of humor. And those are,
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those are two different things, right? To be funny, you make people laugh. To have a sense of humor,
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you understand comedy and you laugh yourself and you can, you can laugh period. Are we in a kind of
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dangerous situation here in comedy? Because I noticed there are, there are still funny people,
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but like half the country maybe. And it's not totally along ideological lines, but it's pretty
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close. It seems to me, we haven't lost our ability to be funny. We've lost our ability
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to have a sense of humor and to understand comedy, which seems necessary for comedy to thrive.
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I love how you squeaked in that women aren't funny.
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I always say with the women that, that Christopher Hitchens thing, I know, I know what he's trying
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to say a little bit, but standup comedy, it's almost more so that standup comedy is a masculine
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art form and more men want to do it. So you kind of, there's, there's a lot at play why there's
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more men, you know, the one of the, it's just like anything. It's like, it's not just one thing,
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but I know a ton of girls that are hilarious. It's just sometimes going in front of a room full
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of people and yelling at like, that's a masculine art form to begin with, whether, whether girl or
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guy. Well, it's funny, you know, that's kind of the point Hitchens was making is like people
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totally misunderstood his point, which his point actually wasn't the headline. Women aren't funny.
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His point was standup comedy tends to be a more masculine art form. So he gave examples of women
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who are funny, but yeah, there's tons of girls that are, I mean, I'm, I have lots of friends that
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are like super funny. Of course that does get misinterpreted and weaponized sometimes. And I'm probably part of
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it. I do a podcast called the boys, guys, and I'm like, women suck. And sometimes it's like,
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yeah, it's like, that's not what I meant though. Yeah. I just, I just think the guys rule girls
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are always like girl power. I'm like, how about dudes rule? That's my new movement. You're not
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invited. It's so brave, stunning and brave in terms of, yeah. Yeah. In terms of the most people,
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because standup comedy should be, especially, especially in a live setting is a, you make jokes
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that you think are funny and then your conscience allows you to make, like you feel
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you know what? That was the right joke. The same way that when you're with your friends,
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you make fun of each other, but there might be a time where you go, ah, you know what? I,
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he didn't even blow up, but I kind of felt bad when I said that that fell over the line. So you
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have your own conscience of what you think it makes sense. And then the audience has gets to vote on
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whether they like it with their one vote, their laughter. The problem is other people that weren't
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there now think they get to vote. They get to like watch it afterwards and be like, that was wrong.
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And you go, well, there was a democratic vote in that audience on laughter. And the vote was,
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they liked it. And you go, well, they're wrong. They're stupid. Those people are stupid and they're
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racist. And you, what about the black guy? He hates himself. And that's what these people are
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doing. But most people for the most part actually aren't that crazy, but they're afraid. But if you're
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good at comedy and you know, it is tough to do, but if you're good at comedy, you can make people
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feel comfortable. And you're like, Hey guys, we're going to laugh at everything right now.
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And it does, it's not because we're bad people. It's because we're fun people.
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That's a great point. I haven't seen before that, that similarity between comedy and politics,
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which is that it's all about the circumstances, right? It's all about the context. I mean, like it's
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actually the example you use is direct, which is there's a democratic vote in the comedy club.
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If they laugh, it worked. If they don't laugh, it didn't work. There's a democratic vote in
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politics. You know, if you get elected, then you've said something that resonates with people
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and that might change over time. Something that's funny 30 years ago might not be funny today.
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Some politician who got elected 30 years ago might not get elected today, but how insane is it to go
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back and say, yeah, you told a joke 15 years ago and now I don't like it and you're dead and I'm
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going to ruin you and ruin your life. Yeah. Cause the context is different, right? Cause you know,
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it's a lot of times you're not with the comedy. You're not even so much. People talk about it being
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like a truth telling art form, but it's, it's not about so sometimes it's not so much about telling
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the truth as much as being not forced to tell lies. Cause it's more like everyone's it's like if,
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uh, you know, sometimes you'll see it in, in, you know, the body positivity movement with women or
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whatever, they'll go, this girl's so beautiful. And you go, all right, whatever. Like, you know what
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I mean? And they're like, no, but say it though. You have to say it. You have to believe it.
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Yeah. And you go, okay, I don't care if you want to say that and think that, but when you need me to
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now say it, that's what's becoming a problem. So it's like, if you want to go like your thing that
00:24:05.920
you like fine, but when you need to go, no, but you need to say it's good. And I think that's like a lot
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of times what it's pushing back against because the context is different. I wouldn't, I'm not like
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a need to tell the truth. If I'm with someone that's, you know, that person, let's say a two
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out of 10 girl, I don't, I don't like, Hey, you're gross. Cause I'm a truth teller and I need to say
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that's not how I feel. But if 10 people are in my face being like, tell her she's beautiful. I,
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then I might be like, well, she's not though. Stop making me beyond. I don't want to be honest.
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I don't want to say anything, but yeah, I mean, it's, I, I mentioned it earlier. Now it's become
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a kind of cliche is this idea of stunning and brave, you know, that basically there's this
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kind of, I don't know, politically correct orthodoxy that makes you say, I guess it started
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really with, with Caitlyn Jenner is you say, okay, Bruce Jenner wants to go by Caitlyn Jenner now.
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All right. Doesn't really bother me. It doesn't, you know, no big deal. I have other things that I
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think about, but it's when you're told that you have to say this, this woman is stunning and brave.
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Yeah. I mean, even I think Norm, Norm MacDonald had a bit on this. He was like, look, you know,
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they want me to say that she's brave and beautiful and, uh, uh, maybe she's brave, but
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like how many 60 something year old women do you know who are like really, really hot? Not too many,
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you know, in their own way, but, but not, not too many. Yeah. That's it's, it's just a culture of
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lies that's being, being foisted on people. And that kind of makes you react.
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Yeah. And people are like over it, you know? So when you give them the permission to not, uh,
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say that, cause a lot of times, uh, you know, comedy can be like a pressure release valve,
00:25:38.920
right? Cause there's so much of, uh, people feel like they're being gaslit, right? It's kind of,
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so sometimes it's just nice to go up and hear someone kind of say those things the same way that
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if you, let's say me and you had a mutual friend who was, he's all right, you know,
00:25:52.520
not maybe the guy number four in the group and so, and everyone's coming up to you and they're
00:25:57.740
like, this guy's the best. All of a sudden you find yourself in your head, like what? And then
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everyone's telling you that. And then, so that's making you feel crazy. But then when someone else
00:26:05.620
comes up, like, Hey, he just had a really bad day. So we're just trying to get bump them up and you
00:26:09.500
go, Oh yeah. Great guy. Yeah. He's awesome. I just don't want to feel crazy. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of times,
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you know, when just hearing someone push back against these things is enough to sort of,
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you know, because sometimes you're in your workplace, you're like, am I crazy? Because
00:26:24.640
you feel, has everyone lost their minds? It starts to make you feel crazy because you're being like
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gaslit by society sometimes. Yeah. It is that gaslighting. I think, you know, sometimes the
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right gets knocked for being too, too blunt or, you know, they're, they're, they're considered mean
00:26:39.240
or impolite, but it's not that we'd be happy to be polite. It's just don't like relieve yourself on my
00:26:45.380
leg and tell me it's raining. Just let me know what you're doing and that it's not, I'm not,
00:26:49.740
I'm not completely out of my mind and we can go along and be nice and all have a nice civil
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society. Yeah. I think that everyone works a little better when they're the push. I mean,
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it's a weird scenario because obviously the Trump's in power, so you have your Republicans in power,
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but the liberals clearly controlled thought and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. So you have a,
00:27:08.220
it's kind of, it feels like for me, like the whole woke church. It's the reason why people are so
00:27:12.560
threatened is because they have their bishop positions in that church. And then, and they're saying,
00:27:16.780
you know, here's our list of things. And I'm kind of saying, Hey, we have a bar down the street where
00:27:22.000
we're, we're all kind of partying and it's really fun. And everyone's leaving to go hang out at that
00:27:26.120
bar. And they're like, just so you know, you're, we're going to, we're going to call you the worst
00:27:29.860
things if you leave, because they, they know if you leave, it's a bishop position and they go,
00:27:33.740
that's the devil there. And you go, well, it's not really that we're just having fun over here.
00:27:36.920
And they're like, well, you can't. Well, if, if it hasn't happened already, Ryan,
00:27:41.880
I'm pretty sure that this conversation will get us both excommunicated by the bishops.
00:27:49.280
You're cursing me. I know. Well, whatever though, you can at least go hang out at the bar and the
00:27:54.700
bar will be pretty fun down the street. We'll, we'll leave it there. I've taken up a ton of your
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time, but I, I do encourage everybody go check out Ryan Longman. His stuff is really great.
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They can find you Ryan on YouTube. They can find you at your podcast,
00:28:10.260
the boys cast with Ryan Long. Where else? MySpace, Zanga, LiveJournal.
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I try to, you know, I try to root everything to those two things. You know, I'm going to be
00:28:17.840
touring a lot as soon as this comes back, but youtube.com slash Ryan Long comedy,
00:28:22.020
Instagram, Twitter, a Tik TOK parlor. I got them all at Ryan Long comedy.
00:28:26.800
Cool. I hit a video every single Monday morning at a 10 Eastern standard time.
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Go check it out. 10 Eastern. I'm trying to figure out if that conflicts with my show.
00:28:35.640
Well, if it does right after my show, then go out and check out Ryan's stuff.
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Dude. Great. Great to talk to you. Keep up the great work. Really funny stuff.