The Michael Knowles Show - March 20, 2021


Candace Owens Explains Why You Should NEVER Apologize To Woke Mob


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

219.84679

Word Count

3,750

Sentence Count

340

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Candace Owens shares her thoughts on Meghan Markle and why she thinks she could have been a better choice for the role of Queen Elizabeth II in the Harry Potter franchise. She also talks about why she believes Meghan should have been cast as a woman of color.


Transcript

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00:00:37.620 Hey everybody, Michael here. If you have not gotten enough of my friend Candace Owens
00:00:42.080 by reading Cardi B's Twitter page, then you are going to want to stick around. I sat down with
00:00:47.960 Candace just a few days ago. We chatted about all things relevant to her life, to our culture,
00:00:58.120 ranging from our system of government and our politics, all the way to Meghan Markle,
00:01:03.220 who I suspect is probably going to try to take over our system of politics at some point.
00:01:08.500 So go check it out. We've got a fun interview with Candace. And also after that, be sure to check
00:01:13.420 out the first episode of the Candace show over at the Daily Wire.
00:01:23.800 I am joined now by my friend, Candace Owens. Candace, I can't help but notice, you are a woman,
00:01:31.960 you're black.
00:01:33.200 A woman of color.
00:01:33.920 I'm sorry, a woman of color. You are famous. You are American. You married a Brit. And yet,
00:01:43.300 you turned out great. What was your secret and where did Meghan Markle go wrong?
00:01:47.320 Meghan Markle went wrong a lot of ways. First and foremost, she is a Hollywood leftist. That's all
00:01:54.180 you need to know. You know what I mean? And this story, this whole, everyone was like,
00:01:59.380 why did you get into this? Why does this really get under your skin? Because I married an Englishman.
00:02:04.520 My husband's father was in the House of Lords.
00:02:07.200 Is that like being a mechanic or something? I don't know. Is that like an electrician shop somewhere
00:02:12.540 in the U.K.?
00:02:13.180 Yeah, exactly. Right.
00:02:13.320 Okay, yeah.
00:02:14.300 And so it was definitely a learning curve for me, even when I met my husband, going to England.
00:02:20.220 And there's just like different sets of rules. Their society is very traditional.
00:02:24.400 And I was just, I loved it. I loved stepping into someone's culture and not trying to change it.
00:02:29.380 And this is the thing about the left that drives me crazy, is that they just have no appreciation for tradition.
00:02:34.340 They have no appreciation for history. It's why they think that everything between Los Angeles and New York
00:02:39.500 needs to be, is backwards.
00:02:40.880 Right.
00:02:41.240 Right.
00:02:41.420 The flyover.
00:02:42.160 And yeah, the flyover, right? It needs a makeover. And for her to just do that, to go to this country
00:02:48.460 with all of their traditions and the queen, of course, being so significant, the meaning of her just to have
00:02:54.840 been sitting on the throne for that long and having decades.
00:02:58.620 With dignity, with grace.
00:03:00.140 Yes. And she has seen the country through so much. And to do what they did, just cheapen that and say,
00:03:05.120 well, it's racism. This is the reason we had to leave. It's racism. Meghan Markle, look black to you?
00:03:10.720 Did anybody look at her and say, oh, Harry's dating a black woman?
00:03:13.800 My mother, seriously, my Sicilian mother was much darker than Meghan Markle. You would have no idea.
00:03:19.740 She has that thing in Hollywood, they call it ethnically ambiguous, where you can play sort of any role.
00:03:24.460 Right. She could have played an Indian woman in films. She could have said that she, she could have said she was
00:03:28.680 mixed race. I would have bought that. She could have definitely said she was Italian. She has freckles.
00:03:32.720 You know, you could have just think that, you know, it's completely obscure. And yet she, she's like, you know,
00:03:37.540 I'm less than 25% black, but I've realized that because I'm getting bad press,
00:03:41.760 I can say the bad press is because I'm less than 25% black. Because there is this purity test.
00:03:46.700 Every time they write a hit piece, they say, well, is there any black in this person? Well,
00:03:49.820 that's the reason we're going to, we're going to write a horrible piece about them.
00:03:52.740 And especially being me, because I have a public profile. And as you know,
00:03:56.700 they have written so many bad things about me. Really nice things.
00:03:59.260 Really nice things. Like that time they accused me of a mosque, mosque shooting in New Zealand.
00:04:03.400 That's right. I've never been to New Zealand. I don't even write about mosques or Muslims or anything,
00:04:07.100 but they were like, Candace did this. I woke up, worldwide news. I have people in France,
00:04:11.260 like in China. And people were asking me for comments everywhere. And I don't think I have
00:04:15.760 ever once said this bad press is because I'm black. So it's just, it's such a, there's a cowardice.
00:04:22.260 And it's such an excuse. I saw there was a great headline in the Babylon Bee said,
00:04:26.120 Meghan Markle inspires millions of girls by showing that no matter how rich,
00:04:29.720 beautiful and famous you are, you too can be oppressed.
00:04:32.520 Right. She's oppressed. And she's sitting across from Oprah. You know what I mean? And she's,
00:04:36.340 they've been living in a, actually, I think at some point they were at Tyler Perry's $100 million
00:04:40.840 home somewhere flying on his planes. And you really want me to buy that you were chased out
00:04:45.800 of the country because I guess you were less than 25% black. And then the richest part of the story
00:04:50.620 is them claiming that Archie wasn't given a title because he was black. Has anyone seen a picture
00:04:56.040 of Archie? And I say this seriously, if you believe that Archie suffered anti-black racism,
00:05:00.920 then I'm a Nigerian prince and I just need your credit card details. And, uh, you're going to see
00:05:05.700 just look at a picture, right? Stranded Island. This, you know, I'm so glad to hear this is your
00:05:09.380 take on this because I have to say, I was a little frustrated. I understood it, but I was frustrated
00:05:13.280 with the conservative reaction to this, which is who cares about the Royal family? I stopped caring
00:05:19.620 about them in 1776. To me, that argument falls flat because the Royal family represents this long
00:05:28.600 conservative tradition in the United Kingdom. And to me, I think the reason the Meghan Markle story
00:05:35.140 has really got you excited, kind of excited a lot of us is because it's this awful sort of modern
00:05:41.580 millennial idea that everything in the past is bad and wicked and racist is the word for that.
00:05:48.880 And I, no matter what privileges I have, we all are so privileged. I am actually a victim and you
00:05:54.220 all need to feel bad for me. And the minute that I can't do exactly what I want to do,
00:05:58.980 this woman chose to marry into the Royal family. It's not like it was a blind date.
00:06:03.440 Right.
00:06:03.620 It's not like on the third date, Harry said, Oh, you know, darling, I have something I have to tell
00:06:06.920 you. I haven't told you about my job yet, but, uh, you know, she didn't, it's not as though she
00:06:11.480 thought his first name were Prince, you know, like the musician, right? She knows who he is.
00:06:15.920 And she chose to do this.
00:06:18.240 Oh, you know what's up? She said she never Googled him. No, no. They got, when he got down
00:06:22.560 on one knee, that's when she was like, Oh my gosh, he's a Prince. And she found out it was
00:06:26.520 Princess Diana. And even that is so absurd. Michael, I Google everyone. I'll get into a
00:06:30.980 car with an Uber driver and I'll be like, what's your name? Just check this background here and make
00:06:34.420 sure things are okay. You're going to tell me you wanted a date and you didn't Google, you didn't
00:06:37.500 LinkedIn profile. This is what we do. Like this is, and especially her who a big piece of story
00:06:42.080 that's missing. She went to the UK with the intention of marrying up. She had a PR person
00:06:46.620 who wrote an entire piece. She hired a public relations firm to try to get, um, to start
00:06:52.520 dating a football player. So that was her thing. She was like, okay, they found a football player.
00:06:56.020 She was trying to get a date with them.
00:06:56.800 She really over-performed here, yeah.
00:06:57.500 Right, exactly. And she landed on a Prince. And you know, Piers Morgan, who I really can't
00:07:00.820 stand, but he talks about how he reached out to her and she kept saying she wanted to get
00:07:04.160 involved in the circles because it just wasn't working for her in America. It wasn't working for her
00:07:07.680 in Canada. So she was like, okay, let me try, let me try England. But she had no idea.
00:07:12.080 Who Prince Harry or Prince William or Kate Middleton, she just missed that whole thing.
00:07:15.680 Right, of course.
00:07:16.540 She just was there.
00:07:17.120 Wow, what are the odds?
00:07:17.860 Yeah.
00:07:18.160 What are the odds?
00:07:18.780 Did you see what she described herself as? Because we should talk about that.
00:07:21.640 I didn't watch the interview, but she said she felt like the little mermaid who fell in
00:07:26.120 love with a prince and lost her voice.
00:07:28.580 If only.
00:07:29.200 I know, right.
00:07:29.540 If only.
00:07:30.840 Just trying to think of a straight face like she did. Let me try. I felt like, you know,
00:07:35.780 the little mermaid who went over and found a prince and fell in love and lost my voice.
00:07:41.700 It's just as believable as you say this on air, of course. My favorite part, as she's
00:07:47.840 saying these sorts of things, occasionally Harry would try to say, well, you notice she
00:07:52.700 says, shh, get out of here. Harry, stop it. Don't listen to it. Camera on me, folks.
00:07:57.800 Oh, she's so unbearable. And again, I'm glad you brought up the fact that a lot of conservatives
00:08:02.100 were so dismissive. I hate that because, you know, we so often talk about how the left is
00:08:07.460 ignorant, right? To not try to understand what it is about the royals that is so significant.
00:08:12.920 It is not just like, oh, I'll praise them because they're kings and queens and princesses. It
00:08:18.240 really isn't about that. What they represent is history, right? And that is what they love
00:08:23.560 about them is that these people, they never issue political statements. They don't just
00:08:26.720 go where the wind blows. And there is something about Americans, even the conservative Americans,
00:08:31.020 that we have this strand of progressivism because, listen, look, our country was built on that,
00:08:35.140 right? We were built on kind of tearing down traditions. And sometimes, yes, traditions
00:08:38.800 need to be torn down. But where we're at today, where you have no appreciation for anything,
00:08:44.020 and that is why hashtag abolish, you know, which they're so dumb to like abolish the monarchy
00:08:48.440 as if the monarchy has any power anymore. But and actually abolish the royal family is where
00:08:53.400 we're at because they just want everything torn down, newer, faster, and they want the world
00:08:57.780 to look like whatever Hollywood singers and actresses think that it ought to look like.
00:09:02.220 Well, this was it. It's sort of this woman seemed that she wanted to play a Disney princess
00:09:08.840 more than she wanted to be an actual princess. And how true is that of so much of our society?
00:09:15.380 You know, Edmund Burke, the great conservative philosopher, his big distinction between the
00:09:19.960 American Revolution and the French Revolution was that the American Revolution was kind of
00:09:24.380 conservative. It didn't destroy everything, right? Whereas the French Revolution really did
00:09:28.180 destroy everything. And so there was always this sense in America that we want to really,
00:09:33.200 we want to be the real thing. You know, there is a kind of tradition here. And we didn't want to
00:09:40.140 become this really shallow, abstracted culture that unfortunately, it seems like we're becoming.
00:09:46.960 Right.
00:09:47.100 And you know, you hear so often from conservatives, we need to take back the culture. We need to fight
00:09:51.820 back in the culture. Well, you know, in order to do that, we're going to need to get really serious.
00:09:57.500 And we're not, we're going to have to start saying like, no, don't do that. That's a, that is a bad
00:10:01.940 thing. You know, we need to defend an older set of standards.
00:10:05.780 Right. I think too often we meet people in the middle and it's such an easy game, but there's,
00:10:11.100 wait, there's actually an expression that you used to talk about when it, what is the Overton theory,
00:10:15.180 right?
00:10:15.420 The Overton window.
00:10:16.060 Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what the left is doing. It's brilliant, right? They're just,
00:10:18.660 they say something so extreme, like here we are. And they say something so extreme that they're
00:10:23.580 like, men can give birth. I'm like, no, they can't, no, they can't. But eventually we say,
00:10:27.520 okay, please don't say that. We'll meet you halfway. And now we're edging closer to where they are.
00:10:30.860 You know how we do this. We always, we always say, look, men, men can't give birth, right? Men are
00:10:34.500 not women. But then we start edging in this way when we'll start saying so-and-so is a biological male.
00:10:39.700 Right. And it's like, no, it's a man.
00:10:41.220 He's just a man.
00:10:41.800 He's just a man.
00:10:42.500 He's not like, he's not like a psychological woman, but it's just,
00:10:45.720 it's just one thing. But because we start to be conciliatory, guess what? You look up 10 years
00:10:51.440 later and you're way far down the line.
00:10:53.340 And that's what's happened. That's literally what's happened, especially in this last decade,
00:10:56.560 is that we just keep meeting them halfway. But the halfway is also, it's always moving towards
00:11:00.760 their ridiculously far left point. And I think that there needs to be more. People say to me,
00:11:05.260 oh, Candace, you're so far right. I'm like, actually, I'm just right. Right? I'm just right.
00:11:08.760 I'm actually almost in the middle because you guys have gone so crazy.
00:11:12.260 10 years ago, you would have been considered a centrist.
00:11:15.020 A centrist. A normal human being. Like, you know, when we accepted that men and women
00:11:19.760 were men and women, and now you're actually being called a bigot. I mean, yesterday,
00:11:24.420 International Women's Day, the ACLU tweets about saying, you know, trans women are women.
00:11:30.020 On International Women's Day, you said, men are women.
00:11:33.180 That's what I said. That's what I said.
00:11:33.760 The patriarchy strikes you back.
00:11:35.220 The trans woman, it means man, right? This is a different word for man. So you just tweeted out,
00:11:40.280 in order to celebrate women, let me tell you how much men can be women.
00:11:43.540 You know, though, you're being modest here. And this is actually something I'm very excited for
00:11:46.600 about your show, Candace, right, which is launching, is that you, right, you're just saying
00:11:52.060 sort of normal things. And I don't think anything you're saying is extreme. But most people do not
00:11:57.660 have the cojones to do it. Talking about men and women. Most people don't have the guts to do it.
00:12:03.280 And you, I don't know what it is, because we've been friends for years. You know, I remember you
00:12:08.660 back in the old timey days on YouTube. And you, more than just about anybody, have been able to
00:12:17.320 withstand this onslaught from the left and throw it back in their face and not let them cancel you.
00:12:24.000 And it's really, I don't know how you've done it.
00:12:27.140 I just hope that I show people that there's no consequence, you know, for telling the truth.
00:12:31.820 And you just say it. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. They can only cancel you so many
00:12:36.100 times, right? Once they went to, once I survived, like, being accused of a mosque shooting in New
00:12:40.920 Zealand, I was like, okay, well, where do we go from here? What else are you going to accuse me of
00:12:44.040 here, right? And so I think that I've just bounced back and I've been unapologetic, which is the most
00:12:49.660 important thing. Don't say sorry. Don't say sorry. Because once you start saying sorry to the left,
00:12:54.340 you will never stop saying sorry to the left, right? Because it's not about them needing an
00:12:58.660 apology. They want pure capitulation. They want to make sure you capitulate to everything they say.
00:13:03.900 What they're seeking, actually, is their own kind of monarchy, right? Like, they're seeking to rule
00:13:08.340 over you, your opinions, your ideas. And their established church.
00:13:11.280 Exactly. That is their established church. They seek for you to be their peasants. And the second you say
00:13:15.840 sorry, you become that. So I just say, don't say sorry.
00:13:18.400 Speaking of the church, I mean, this is something I've really struggled with. I think you're completely
00:13:21.320 right. But look, as a Christian, I want to apologize when I feel I've done something wrong. I have no
00:13:28.680 problem doing that. To, oh, miserable sinner that I am, I really don't mind it. Except I know that's not
00:13:35.260 really what it is. That's not, when you apologize to the left, it's not, first of all, they're not
00:13:41.280 seeking that in good faith. It's beating a dog into submission.
00:13:43.800 Yes. That is what it is. It's sort of, it's unfortunate. Because I'd love to be in a society
00:13:48.360 where I'd say, oh, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Sorry.
00:13:50.320 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's funny, because I did an interview the other day, and they said
00:13:54.320 to me, sort of in preparation for the show, like, is there anything that you look back on in the past
00:13:59.560 that you're sorry for? Like, things that you've tweeted and things of that nature. And I said,
00:14:03.000 no. And I said, because I want to give permission to people that are following me to know that
00:14:07.420 you're allowed to change your mind. Yeah. Remember this thing where I used to grow up? Like, you
00:14:11.560 know, a long time ago, I used to think Barbies were the coolest thing, and then all day, society
00:14:15.260 should be run by us playing Barbies in the room. That was Candace at four years old. Am I allowed
00:14:19.140 to evolve from that position without apologizing for my past? Well, I love it. You know, people throw
00:14:23.400 this at you a lot. They'll say, you used to be left wing, but now you're conservative. Ha ha, I got you.
00:14:28.900 Yeah. I got a couple of brain cells. I opened a book. You know what I mean? I opened
00:14:32.880 a book, and I'm like, it's just so ridiculous. And what is so alarming about that sort of
00:14:37.920 a culture, like, forget us. Like, we're adults. We're old. We have kids now, right?
00:14:41.000 Yeah, we're old, man. We're old people now. I'm trying to get fat, too.
00:14:43.880 But think about kids. I'm already old, but I want to be old and fat.
00:14:45.620 Think about kids. How hard it is to be a kid today when you are being told that if you
00:14:50.580 make a mistake, you're done. You're over. You're canceled. You know, you say one wrong
00:14:54.840 thing. When I was a kid, we didn't have Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, so I could just be a
00:14:58.280 crappy human being for one day and say horrible things, and then the next day be like, oh, you know,
00:15:01.600 that didn't feel too good. I'm going to be someone different today. And I was allowed
00:15:04.060 to grow. That's what growing up is. You learn because you do things wrong. Even toddlers.
00:15:07.740 They're violent toddlers. They're throwing things down. You know what I mean?
00:15:10.460 They are.
00:15:10.860 Violent human beings. They think through things, and they just, they choose violence every
00:15:13.900 day, toddlers, right?
00:15:14.700 Even my cute little newborn, you know, he'll throw punches at me.
00:15:17.760 Same. Yeah, same thing. And it's like, now the left is like, you are exactly who you are
00:15:21.980 when you are two is when you are four. Candace, when Candace, three years ago in politics,
00:15:25.780 I've pretty much grown up politically, you know, has to, you know, make apologies or make
00:15:30.240 a men's, no. If I said it then, I meant it then. But if I transform my opinion, here's
00:15:34.140 why. This is what it looks like to grow up.
00:15:35.980 Right.
00:15:36.320 That's right. That's right. You know, if I had social media when I was 11 or 12.
00:15:43.540 Canceled.
00:15:44.020 Yeah. Could you imagine?
00:15:45.300 And the show right now.
00:15:46.340 Because that stuff is there forever. But I love it because it takes a lot of gumption
00:15:49.000 to be able to say, yeah, oh, I thought this thing a few years ago. Yeah. And now, guess
00:15:52.120 what? I've matured. I've educated myself. Maybe that's something we can all do as a culture
00:15:57.400 as well. You know, one great way people can do that? Tuning in to Candace on The
00:16:01.680 Yellow Wire. I can't wait. It's going to be fabulous. I'm so excited for the show.
00:16:05.020 Yeah. I'll be issuing tons of non-apologies when people are offended. I will the next day.
00:16:09.040 I mean, even seeing that tail in between the legs, copy and paste an apology that so many
00:16:13.640 people do. Like, you know, like they say one thing and then it's suddenly like the next
00:16:16.720 day on their show, they're like, you know, I want to apologize for some things that I
00:16:20.560 said that made perfect sense. But I hear you that you're offended. So therefore, we're all
00:16:25.440 growing. And it's just like, shut up. Just say, I'm sorry you were offended. Yeah. And
00:16:29.580 maybe don't watch my show. There have been a few times where there's been a lot of pressure
00:16:33.880 to give the apology. And I think there's an old Sicilian expression. It's just a little
00:16:37.300 flick underneath your chin. That's what I think about it. My dear, I can't wait for the show
00:16:42.500 to start. Everybody's got to tune in and watch it. Candace on The Daily Wire. I will be eagerly
00:16:47.880 watching it just from right across the way. And I'll see you around the office water cooler.
00:16:52.200 Yeah. Love it. Ta-da.
00:16:55.440 Bye.
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