The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage： Biden’s Most Terrifying ＂Accomplishments＂

00:00:00.000 Hey, Michael Knowles here. The latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage,

00:00:03.720 Biden's most terrifying accomplishments, is available now. Let's be frank with one another.

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00:02:32.340 love it. So get over there. Become a member. Get your questions in. There's nothing to talk

00:02:37.400 about. The teleprompter had exactly that much. I was trying to read the news right before the

00:02:43.320 show and it was basically that teleprompter. That's all there is to say. I know Ben would

00:02:48.040 rather just go home, but I thought, yeah, we might as well. I'm sure there's something

00:02:52.760 that we could gin up of interest in. The only thing that came to my mind is that it's Michael

00:02:57.300 Knowles' birthday. Yeah, it's a big day. It's my birthday. I know. Another trip.

00:03:01.440 How many? You know, a lady never tells, but 31. The big 3-1, a monumental birthday.

00:03:07.340 It is monumental. I remember last year was your 30th birthday and we had all these plans

00:03:11.780 of all the ways that we were going to celebrate you and then COVID happened.

00:03:16.260 Two days before.

00:03:16.940 Two days before.

00:03:17.580 Two days before and that was it.

00:03:18.500 I don't remember having all those plans.

00:03:19.580 Yeah.

00:03:21.320 I was going to...

00:03:21.800 COVID was our excuse, if you'll recall.

00:03:23.260 They sort of foisted it on us. You know, when it happened, sweet little Lisa said,

00:03:29.040 you know, hey, we'll celebrate your birthday in a few months. I said, I wasn't born in a

00:03:33.400 few months. I was born today, so that's over. So then she was like, no, we'll celebrate

00:03:36.480 it next year. I said, 31. A grown man can't have a 31st birthday.

00:03:40.840 That's no.

00:03:41.560 At this age, you get birthdays once a decade.

00:03:43.380 Yeah, at most. I mean, I think I need to basically be Drew's age before I get another

00:03:47.940 actual birthday.

00:03:48.660 So here's the thing. Today marks two dark occasions. One is backstage.

00:03:53.820 And the second is the day that Michael Knowles was popped out of his mother's womb.

00:03:57.700 And we all regret this day. Some of us, it has cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:04:02.160 At least. No, more than that.

00:04:03.860 Others of us, it has cost merely tens of thousands of dollars. And Candace, you're new. Don't

00:04:07.500 worry.

00:04:08.060 Yeah.

00:04:08.420 And so happy birthday to Michael Knowles and God help us all.

00:04:14.320 Thank you.

00:04:14.560 Also, like actually in real news, Candace continues to be in a legal wrangle now with Cardi B's.

00:04:19.040 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:04:19.640 We have to talk about that.

00:04:20.660 The only important news is happening because of Candace.

00:04:23.560 That's right.

00:04:24.440 So do we have any major breaking legal news?

00:04:27.260 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because she's now deleted the tweets.

00:04:33.060 Because there was nothing wrong with them.

00:04:34.180 There was nothing wrong with them. She deleted them. And she gave maybe the best excuse ever

00:04:37.460 because I obviously called her out for deleting the tweets where it's like, oh, I wonder what

00:04:40.160 happened. You wait for the news cycle to go away and then you try to quietly delete the

00:04:44.380 tweets because you maybe have gotten some legal counsel and you realize we are seriously

00:04:48.000 suing you. And she gives the best excuse. She says, oh, no, I deleted the tweets because

00:04:51.880 my Twitter is fun and friendly. That's actually, she actually.

00:04:55.720 Right. Same excuse Hillary used. Yeah.

00:04:58.000 She was like, I just drilled right through those hard drives because this bathroom is supposed

00:05:02.560 to be fun and friendly.

00:05:03.220 I want to, I just like, airy.

00:05:05.000 Right. Exactly. She's ruining all the decor. So we had to, we had to bleach.

00:05:08.500 Best defense ever. I actually did that because I, it's fun and friendly. I just wanted to keep

00:05:11.660 things fun and friendly.

00:05:12.360 Yeah, exactly. Deleted tweets made her pull out game.

00:05:14.300 Yeah, exactly. So I'm very afraid of her, but, um, but yeah.

00:05:20.000 Cardi B is, can I just say, she's great for traffic. Oh, yeah. She's really good for that.

00:05:26.780 So. Yeah. I, I genuinely texted Ben when this went down and I was like, I think at a certain

00:05:31.660 point, like we are going to have to cut her a check. Like, you know, daily wire, I think.

00:05:36.080 In our culture, there's very little that shocks anymore, but I remember, I think I probably

00:05:40.440 first heard your rendition, Ben, of, of the.

00:05:42.720 Well, it is a better rendition.

00:05:43.480 It was better.

00:05:43.860 It was a better rendition.

00:05:44.840 Let's be frank.

00:05:45.780 It is terrific.

00:05:46.540 It's the highlight of the.

00:05:47.400 Like Joe Cocker did the Beatles better and you did Cardi B better.

00:05:50.100 Right. But, but when I heard it and.

00:05:52.960 And John Belushi did Joe Cocker.

00:05:54.860 Much, much better than this.

00:05:56.420 Yeah. When I first heard WAP and I, you know, I don't know, I've been around the block

00:06:02.140 a little bit. When I heard that song, I thought seriously for the first time that I didn't

00:06:07.880 realize you could have audio pornography, that you actually could have, that you could

00:06:11.620 read porn or you could watch. I didn't know you could listen to actual pornography, but

00:06:16.540 that's what the song is.

00:06:17.520 Yeah.

00:06:17.800 Actually, I had the opposite. In some ways, at first I was shocked and then I was shocked

00:06:21.700 by the fact that I wasn't shocked anymore because it's so, it should be a lot more shocking

00:06:26.300 than it is to hear.

00:06:27.260 Yeah, right.

00:06:27.840 A woman singing that graphically about her genitalia, but they have to try so hard to be shocking.

00:06:33.960 At a certain point when you're trying that hard, it just doesn't work anymore.

00:06:36.120 When you watch the Grammys performance, the clip that I saw, I was surprised by how it

00:06:40.640 just seemed kind of clumsy and desperate and very non-sexy.

00:06:45.980 It's like Babylon if Babylon really wanted attention.

00:06:51.020 Reminded me of when Norm MacDonald was doing the Bob Saget roast and all these roasts were

00:06:56.560 just the most disgusting, vile, vulgar things you could say. And Norm got up and did a bunch

00:07:01.660 of 70s Dean Martin roast jokes, you know, like, hey, Cloris, you'll never be over the

00:07:05.740 hill in the car that you drive, right? All these kind of innocent jokes. And he was asked

00:07:09.680 about this and he said, they told me to be shocking. That was the only way to be shocking,

00:07:15.280 right? And it's kind of, you think like, if someone does a waltz at the Grammys, that

00:07:18.320 would be the most shocking thing.

00:07:19.460 If a girl kept her clothes on on Instagram, he'd be like, this is shocking. I just can't

00:07:22.800 believe she's just going to keep her clothes on like that. And that's sad, but that's the

00:07:26.620 culture. They have constructed it though, that you cannot point out that our culture

00:07:30.840 is now almost universally trash. But if you point that out, you're kind of cranky, you

00:07:35.760 know, and it's like, you're just supposed to like watch the decadence and think, wow,

00:07:39.160 it's really brave that our culture is now garbage.

00:07:41.860 I would believe your opinion if you didn't hate the Beatles, but you've actually been

00:07:47.120 cranky since 1963.

00:07:49.180 No, but wait, wait, be fair, be fair. I agree that the Beatles were tremendously talented,

00:07:53.900 but I looked at them and I thought one day Cardi B is going to do well.

00:08:00.600 The slippery slope.

00:08:02.640 A very slippery slope as it turns out.

00:08:04.100 A hundred days a week, man.

00:08:06.720 Turning on incognito or private mode in Chrome and Safari is not enough. I just skipped the

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00:08:13.840 That was brave.

00:08:14.640 Thank you.

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00:09:26.240 saw the stuff that I'm into online, you'd know. That guy's got to have it. That guy's got to have

00:09:30.780 it. You know how many times he's watched it? It's like insane. It's insane. It really is. But

00:09:35.900 there is no culture left is I think the point. Well, you've been talking about this and I think

00:09:39.780 it's important that we don't have a counterculture anymore. We have an anti-culture. Right.

00:09:43.300 Well, what they used to be the counterculture, the idea was we know the rules and we're going

00:09:47.860 to fight the rules, but we at least acknowledge that the rules exist. Now it's we're not just

00:09:53.240 going to fight the rules. There are no rules. And the problem is that art without rules is

00:09:57.020 just crap. See, this is the dirty little secret about art. It's like getting rid of all the

00:10:01.780 rules of grammar and then trying to write a book on the basis of that. You can't do that

00:10:04.760 because it doesn't make any sense. That's true about all art. There have to be some limitations

00:10:08.860 to what it is that you can do because that defines pushing the boundaries. There are no boundaries

00:10:12.640 to push. If you know all the scales and you take liberties, that's jazz. If you just play

00:10:16.460 random notes, it's not even music. Exactly. And when you watch these performances

00:10:20.380 now, it's not as though they are playing with the line or just pushing past the line. There's

00:10:25.280 no line anymore. So in a way, it was shocking how unshocking it was. It was shocking that you

00:10:29.880 saw this and you knew you were supposed to be kind of shocked. But at the same time, it

00:10:34.040 was like this is, as Matt was saying, perfectly not only predictable, but almost blase. It wasn't

00:10:40.740 even like this is so shockingly pornographic and sexy. It was like this almost, it felt

00:10:45.120 like it's grotesquery. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's closer to, it's closer to, you know, watching

00:10:51.620 just either animals at a park or, or closer to being in anatomy lab. Like it didn't, there's

00:10:57.680 nothing about it that was romantic or interesting in any way, obviously. It's also sad. I mean,

00:11:01.480 this is the thing. You're not shocked anymore. Even when you were arguing with Cardi B, I was

00:11:06.400 thinking, aside from your association with us, you're an elegant, well-spoken, you know,

00:11:10.640 intelligent young lady talking to this woman who's acting like an animal on stage and the

00:11:15.420 press is going like, ah, she really gave it to Candace. Just putting them together is

00:11:21.200 sad. You know, I'm sorry for this woman. And the thing is that what you said, Candace,

00:11:24.880 is exactly right. She's acting animalistic, but she's not an animal. And so she's degrading

00:11:29.060 herself. And this is the part that's sad is that people in our society are doing this is

00:11:32.460 that she's so much more than that, right? She's a soul and she's a brain and she's a

00:11:35.700 mind and she is all these things. And beyond all the mockery and all the silliness, which

00:11:39.220 she does bring on herself by seeking it out because she wants the attention and she wants

00:11:42.320 the money. There is something deeply sad about our society, which has decided to celebrate

00:11:47.100 this sort of behavior. And it does rip away the humanity, the people who participated in

00:11:50.460 and the people who watch it, I think.

00:11:51.980 Well, this is, you know, I don't say this just because you're my friend, but I mentioned

00:11:55.480 it on the show today. The left's argument, the left's art with WAP and then the left's

00:12:01.640 argument through WAP is that we're just meat puppets, right? We're just kind of our

00:12:05.280 flesh. They actually make the opposite argument with transgenderism, but we can get to that

00:12:08.360 later. But they just were kind of meat puppets, right? If you're black, you got to vote for

00:12:12.000 Biden. If you don't, you ain't black. If you're a woman, you got to behave in a certain way.

00:12:15.960 And I think this is why you, Candace, irritate her so much is because you're a woman, you're

00:12:23.040 black. If you just looked at the two of you purely physically and say, oh, these are very

00:12:28.460 similar people. And yet you have made totally opposite decisions in your life. And it just

00:12:34.560 throws that whole ideology in the trash. It's such a challenge to it. I think they can't

00:12:39.300 really take it.

00:12:39.880 I think that was one of the more remarkable elements is that obviously she did this performance

00:12:44.200 and everybody reported on it because she wanted everybody to report on it because she was

00:12:47.220 being disgusting. And yet it was specifically my 60 second response, right? That really got,

00:12:54.500 it really got under her skin in a way that I thought was quite fascinating. It's like she could

00:12:57.680 have picked any person talking about it online. And yet she was just so focused on me. So

00:13:01.920 it's like, there's something about me that bothers you. And I think, to be honest with

00:13:05.540 you, and just seeing the spiral of her tweets and how she was trying to pull anything about

00:13:09.200 me, right? She's like, you make your husband a sandwich. Ah! And I was like, are we really

00:13:13.720 doing this? Like, yes, I make my husband sit. Caught me. You know? And I think she's

00:13:18.940 embarrassed. I think deep down and I said this to her.

00:13:21.280 I agree with you.

00:13:21.900 Yeah. I think at the end of the day, you can play pretend, but at night you have to go to sleep

00:13:26.100 with you and your own thoughts. And that cannot feel good.

00:13:28.960 And Niles is right. It's like she's looking in a mirror and the mirror is showing her

00:13:31.980 something else she could have been.

00:13:33.560 Yeah.

00:13:33.920 I thought the sandwich line was especially revealing because she's rejecting, it's a

00:13:38.800 very feminine thing to take care, to be a caretaker, to take care of your husband and

00:13:42.140 your family. She's rejecting all that's feminine. And then it's interesting because we see in

00:13:46.340 the culture just this week, really, we see two examples of what happens when prominent

00:13:50.560 women reject their femininity. So you've got Cardi B rolling around on the stage and it is

00:13:54.500 very just sad to watch. That's maybe the primary emotion that I feel actually is sad.

00:13:58.800 Can we agree as four men on the show that there was actually nothing sexy about the

00:14:04.720 performance?

00:14:05.100 Right. I just want to cut you off for a second. There are five of us. I don't know what this

00:14:07.960 is about.

00:14:09.360 Four men.

00:14:10.200 Oh, okay.

00:14:11.420 There's nothing remotely sexy about it. That's why it's being sad is not, you know, for me,

00:14:15.660 that's not a turn on to be sad. Some people are into different things, though. But then

00:14:22.120 you also have, at the same time, you've also got Elliot Page now and this picture on Time

00:14:29.680 Magazine. And I look at that and I think this is really incredibly sad to look at that.

00:14:36.260 This woman who was an attractive woman and now is a, you know, this kind of frail looking

00:14:42.780 man or a person trying to imitate a man, rejecting her femininity. And this is the two things that

00:14:49.520 happen in this culture when you reject femininity. You've got Cardi B.

00:14:52.560 But isn't it weird that you're getting these two opposing ideas by the left? Both ideas

00:14:57.840 are aimed at destroying our old understanding, the old standards or whatever you want to call

00:15:01.720 it. But they're opposite ideas. The one is we're just meat puppets. We're just kind of

00:15:05.120 bumping and grinding. It's all about the WAP, right? That's the materialist idea. And then

00:15:09.040 there's the Gnostic idea that my body has nothing to do with who I really am. If Ellen Page

00:15:15.520 says, you know, my biology is all woman, but I feel in my metaphysical deep, deep down that

00:15:21.040 I'm a man, then I'm not even a combination. I'm just a man. It's just my immaterial self.

00:15:27.140 You can't hold those two views simultaneously.

00:15:29.680 You can. See, I think the problem is that you're assuming that this ideology is that. You're

00:15:36.080 assuming that the ideology actually has a framework of logical consistency. But it isn't. To your

00:15:40.860 point about anti-culture, it's an anti-ideology, right? It's actually, this is, it's whatever

00:15:46.280 you think, whatever system you adhere to is wrong. Those systems must be torn down in favor

00:15:50.880 of the individual, in favor of individual expression.

00:15:53.660 And the remarkable thing is that it makes them all miserable, right? So it's, they're doing

00:15:57.900 the opposite and they're miserable. Everything about their lives, and this has always been

00:16:01.280 my challenge because I consider myself, I always say, I'm not a feminist. I'm a proud non-feminist,

00:16:05.720 right? And I'm talking about obviously modern feminism, which is not about uplifting women.

00:16:09.600 It's not about equality with men. And I say to these young girls that follow me, find

00:16:13.640 me a feminist and let's examine whether they're happy, right? Chelsea Handler, do you think

00:16:18.260 she's happy, right? Cardi B, look at her life. Do you think she's happy? All these people

00:16:22.560 that are telling you, ah, men are horrible. We got to do this. We got to look at them objectively

00:16:26.880 and say, is that the life I want to have when I get older?

00:16:29.420 And who will make Elliot Page a sandwich?

00:16:33.520 Candace, we have a question from a daily...

00:16:35.440 We have a question for Candace from the Daily Wire audience. The question, Candace, I love

00:16:41.980 that you are on the front lines of the culture war engaging with prominent industry figures

00:16:45.680 like Cardi B. How did you develop the confidence to speak publicly while receiving so much backlash?

00:16:51.300 That's a good question.

00:16:52.040 Yeah, it's a very good question. And I'm going to say one thing and everyone's going to be

00:16:54.660 like, oh, this is ridiculous. But first and foremost, I always say I'm a pretty formed

00:16:57.700 person. I'm confident in who I am. I stand on my two feet. And a lot of that came from first

00:17:02.220 because I took a very liberal route to conservatism. So having done so many things wrong that like

00:17:07.400 when you're screaming, oh, yeah, feminism, it's like it's I say feminism. It's like,

00:17:10.860 you know, trying drugs in college. Like, you know what I mean? You got to come out the other

00:17:14.000 side before you become an addict and ruin your whole life. Right. And so, you know,

00:17:18.840 experimenting with these things that made me like I was miserable. I was miserable when I was a

00:17:22.540 liberal. I mean, that's really the best way to say it. And then so I was so sure when I became a

00:17:26.420 conservative and everything just got better by, you know, just believing in discipline,

00:17:30.880 believing that this this all does mean something, falling back into religion like, you know, I kind

00:17:36.220 of abandoned Christianity for a while and kind of became an atheist in a way. And just I realized

00:17:42.400 that my grandparents got something right. And and I was happy when I started living like that.

00:17:46.280 But the second thing, and it's so, you know, people don't understand this. Kanye West genuinely

00:17:50.560 inspired me when I decided that I was going to jump into politics. I'll never forget. I was listening

00:17:56.380 to his song on repeat when I was like, I'm going to do this, but I need to know that like you just

00:18:01.820 have to stop. You have to not care what anybody else thinks. And that is written into the DNA of

00:18:05.200 Kanye West's music for people that follow culture. He has always been a person who does not care what

00:18:11.220 other people think. You cannot care what other people think. You have to just kind of go into it

00:18:15.260 and say, I'm jumping out of the window. And, you know, that's a line from one of the songs. And he's

00:18:19.760 like, it's going to be a beautiful death. And it's a great time to mention that Kanye West is now

00:18:23.360 worth $6.6 billion as of today. The richest black man that's ever, yeah, ever, ever, ever in the

00:18:30.380 United, in the United States. Wow. What's, what's really both inspiring and tragic about what you

00:18:35.620 just said is that music helped you find yourself. Music helped you find the path to be who you are.

00:18:41.820 And I think that that's a good coda to the conversation about Cardi B, which is there is a

00:18:45.640 consequence to the fact that our culture is descending into this madness, which is music probably more than

00:18:52.240 any other art form has such a power. I always say that if you want to, if you want to judge the

00:18:58.220 sort of theological integrity of a church, you shouldn't listen to the pastor. Nobody else does.

00:19:02.480 It's really the songs. It's what people sing in their own voice, the power of hearing your voice

00:19:06.860 lifted in song, singing along with the radio. Confucius said that. He's a Chinese philosopher.

00:19:10.100 If you want to, you know, determine the morals of a society, its music will furnish the answers.

00:19:13.980 And that's a question to ask the black America. If, you know, the music determines the answer,

00:19:18.160 what are we producing right now? What is Cardi B producing? And that's what I say. It's not good.

00:19:22.020 Because what you put into your ear, the thoughts become things. And so I don't listen to trash

00:19:26.760 music anymore. Like, I just, I mean, I listened to it when I was younger. I just don't. I'm like,

00:19:30.860 you know. Can I say we can't have someone here who's going to pull out Confucius quotes?

00:19:34.800 No, that's true. Because I can't keep up with that. No, it makes us look good.

00:19:38.520 Yeah, I'm sorry. Tone it down.

00:19:40.360 Michael Mills said. As Michael said.

00:19:43.120 As Michael said, yeah. You know, but there's this, there's this contrary strain, as you say this,

00:19:48.380 right? I don't listen to much pop music at all. I don't think most of us listen to a ton of pop

00:19:51.940 music. I do.

00:19:53.500 A little touch every now and again. Candace is the most in touch with the culture.

00:19:57.100 Kanye releases a gospel album. Yeah.

00:19:59.040 Like, what, a couple years ago? I mean, it was a pretty good album. I really liked it, actually.

00:20:02.760 And I, you know, so there is also that. I mean, he's probably the biggest star,

00:20:06.460 basically, in the world. So what does that mean? That you've got WAP and you've got

00:20:09.800 Jesus as king. Yeah.

00:20:11.940 Both coming out around the same time.

00:20:13.460 Yep. It's interesting. And I will say this, because this news of Kanye becoming, you know,

00:20:17.940 the most, the wealthiest black person that's ever lived, I mean, ever lived in America,

00:20:22.320 in the United States. I had a conversation with him a couple of months ago that was like

00:20:26.600 so inspiring. Maybe it was like two months ago. And we were on the phone and he said,

00:20:29.820 I'm not, this is his exact sentence, by the way, I'm not finned to be the poorest one of

00:20:36.420 Elon's friends. And then I said to him, you know what? I'm not finned to be the poorest

00:20:43.700 one of Kanye's friends. Like, you know, and I mean, this is like, he's so inspiring to

00:20:47.720 me for those reasons. People just never understood what it was about Kanye West. But if you follow

00:20:50.820 his music in the DNA of his music, he's, he cannot communicate his ideas. That's his

00:20:54.600 problem, right? He's, he's a teeters thinly genius insanity. And like, he's got the

00:20:59.580 ideas here. And then when he says it, you're like, whoa, what was that? That did not, you

00:21:03.440 know, you did not communicate that correctly, but he is always in a way really ahead of his

00:21:08.380 time. And I knew exactly what he met when he said about Elon Musk. And I was like, that's

00:21:11.140 guys, interesting way to look at yourself. I think I am. The poorest one of Elon's friends.

00:21:13.980 I might be the poorest one of Candace's friends. I'm really upset to say that.

00:21:17.620 You gotta say on your show, I'm not finned to be the only one.

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00:23:27.880 home. There's a watch this, watch this topical segue. So with, with regard to final note on,

00:23:35.520 on Cardi B, the, the thing that, that really struck me in the exchange that you were having with Cardi B

00:23:40.020 is the way that the media just allowed her to get away with everything. I mean, she, she literally just

00:23:45.040 took tweets that were made up out of whole, whole cloth and then threw those at you. And the

00:23:50.120 headlines were spat between Cardi B and Candace. Not enough. You'd made up something as ridiculous

00:23:54.900 as she made up about you and then put it out there. And then she had threatened to sue

00:23:58.180 you. We all know what the headline would have been, but you're not on the proper side of the

00:24:01.220 political aisle and she is on the proper side of the political aisle. Cardi B has confessed to

00:24:03.640 drugging and robbing men. Yeah. When you talk about what the media will let her get away with,

00:24:08.720 can you imagine any, uh, any basically any human, right? Any human. She should be in prison. She

00:24:15.560 should, she should right now be in prison until like the year 2050 based on the crimes that she,

00:24:19.420 that she confessed to. And you know, we're obviously not into cancel culture around here,

00:24:23.440 but there's a big difference between if she said something offensive, like an offensive tweet

00:24:27.500 10 years ago and confessing to violent crimes against other human beings. She's just like,

00:24:33.320 that's what I had to do. Totally. I say we should, yeah. Cancel criminals. Yeah. Let's start that

00:24:39.160 hashtag. The broader point is that obviously if you meet with the left's political approval,

00:24:42.860 then you can get away with literally anything up to and including the most, most vicious sort of

00:24:47.940 racism, obviously. And this sort of brings me to the, the topic that that's been eating the news

00:24:52.680 of late, which is the shooting in, uh, in Atlanta. This is this horrific act of evil by this,

00:24:57.500 white guy who shot a bunch of Asian women. And the number of pieces that so far, there's no

00:25:02.580 evidence that it was racially based. It may very well be racially based. He says it wasn't. Right.

00:25:06.480 He said, he said it wasn't. Like racists always denying that they have racial animus. That's the

00:25:11.480 evidence. So, so, but this is sort of the point is that if you are of the proper political perspective,

00:25:16.980 you can be as racist as you want to be and accuse every single other person on planet earth of racism.

00:25:21.820 The same exact people who are suggesting that this, not only the shooting, but all anti-Asian hate crimes in

00:25:26.860 the United States are the result of white supremacy and whiteness. Those, those same exact people are

00:25:31.280 saying that Asian people should be barred from high schools and colleges based on their outstanding

00:25:34.880 level of success academically. Also, why is nobody asking the question? These, these women were

00:25:39.520 working in massage parlors, which were obviously sex parlors. Right. Why is nobody asking the question?

00:25:44.140 Why are so many Korean women being sold into sex slavery? Right. That to me is a really racial

00:25:48.340 question that I haven't heard one person say. And it is true, by the way, it is happening. I don't know

00:25:53.320 why it's happening, but I'd like to know. I think that's, you know, that's one of the truly

00:25:56.520 degrading, awful experiences that is taking place in our culture. Now, people talk about slavery.

00:26:02.700 It's been over for a hundred years, but they don't talk about this is slavery. It is slavery when you

00:26:07.080 come over and they, they tell you that. And a good culture would be talking about that, right?

00:26:10.660 With the treatment of these women before they, they were, you know, murdered in the most egregious

00:26:15.500 fashion. That's right. I'm sure they didn't sign up. They didn't come here thinking, wow,

00:26:19.100 I can be a sex slave. I mean, there, there, there's so many issues here. The, the, the evil

00:26:23.800 of men who are, who are living in a, in a pornified culture, the, the lengths to which those men

00:26:29.680 will go to do active evil to women. You know, there, there's so many different topics that

00:26:33.600 are really of interest. The one that seems the least of interest in a, in a situation where

00:26:36.700 we literally have no evidence that this was a racially based crime is the racist angle,

00:26:39.960 but naturally it turned into Donald Trump said Wuhan virus. Therefore this guy went and shot

00:26:44.160 up a bunch of, you know, brothels, what looked like brothels. It also, you know,

00:26:48.320 right now to call someone a racist is the worst thing you can be called. Racism is the only sin,

00:26:54.000 right? It's the only crime that we're in the culture. It's getting boring it now. It's like

00:26:57.140 every, every body's called a racist now. It's like, but that's why they changed the language,

00:27:00.300 right? Because they realized that the racist charge had stopped. It stopped having the same

00:27:04.720 sort of impact that it had because they'd applied it to literally everyone. So everybody went,

00:27:08.120 okay, well, if he's racist, then racism mean anything. So instead what they did was they

00:27:11.960 recognized that there was still a term that had a lot of currency, white supremacist,

00:27:14.660 right? Because when you think white supremacist, you think of the skinhead with the Nazi tattoo,

00:27:18.320 on his neck, who's shooting up the West Valley JCC, right? That's, that's what you think of.

00:27:22.080 And so what they did is then they laundered the term white supremacist into white supremacy

00:27:25.420 and white supremacy was no longer a philosophy whereby white people were superior to other people.

00:27:29.860 It was a philosophy whereby all of America's institutions that end with inequality of outcome

00:27:35.600 were infused with white supremacy. And therefore to be anti-racist and anti-white supremacy meant

00:27:40.200 you had to oppose all of America's institutions. They laundered the term racist into white supremacist,

00:27:44.120 into white supremacy, and now into whiteness, right?

00:27:46.400 They do that all the time though. You know, they, they're liberals, they're leftists,

00:27:49.400 they're progressives. As people find out what they are, they change the word to keep ahead of the...

00:27:54.100 But it's broadened out so much now that they are overtly being racist. I mean,

00:27:57.580 there are, there is a piece today... We're talking about segregating colleges.

00:28:00.420 I mean, there is a piece literally today in the root.

00:28:02.340 We're doing segregating ceremonies, graduation ceremonies. I mean, segregation,

00:28:05.520 I've been talking about this for years. There are, there are certain black-only dorms. Okay.

00:28:09.340 Yes.

00:28:09.540 Do you mean, we're so woke black people that like all they had to do was repackage it to us?

00:28:14.340 Like really? Like we're so, we're actually going to segregate ourselves. Thank you very much.

00:28:17.540 It's so stupid. It's implausibly stupid, right? And black Americans, enough of them are not

00:28:22.920 realizing this. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, obviously me, I speak up and I'm like,

00:28:25.900 guys, hello. Remember that whole like period where we tried to like desegregate?

00:28:29.340 Yeah. You're just, you're just choosing it. Well, it's empowering now because I'm choosing

00:28:32.300 to say it. It's gone, but it's gone. It's really frightening though is what Jeremy said before

00:28:36.940 is that when I think about what, what the end game is, there is no realistic end game that they

00:28:42.380 can reach. And it's almost as if they're just locusts. It's like, they're just, it's, it's not,

00:28:46.460 it's like you said, it's an anti-philosophy. It's not a philosophy. It's not a vision of what the

00:28:50.980 world could be. Well, you could kill America in the process, right? Because it doesn't work this way.

00:28:55.440 It's no longer a meritocracy. But anybody can kick over a sandcastle. It's hard to,

00:28:58.800 right. California, they're no longer allowed to flunk black students on the basis of not

00:29:02.940 showing up. Right. Think about this. So like they saw too many black kids were flunking

00:29:07.120 because they just weren't coming to school. And they said, we're not allowed to do that.

00:29:09.380 They got rid of the concept of flunking. Yeah. A teacher just got canceled. I'm sure

00:29:12.800 you saw this. Could they do that when I was at Georgetown? Yeah.

00:29:15.320 The Georgetown law professor? Yeah. Because she told the truth. She said the bottom, every time

00:29:18.600 I check at the bottom of my class, the majority of the students are black. For saying that

00:29:23.060 on, uh, you know, yeah, exactly. It was a Zoom session. It was a Zoom session at Georgetown law.

00:29:26.600 Acknowledging the truth about people. They said, well, you're racist. That's the only

00:29:29.580 way that could be happening. She was saying it was bad. She was saying it was bad. What

00:29:32.300 do we do about it? She was saying some of my best students are black, but disproportionately

00:29:34.620 a lot of my worst students are black. Yeah. How can I make this difference? Right. And

00:29:37.580 they canceled. And she got in trouble. They said, well, you must be racist. That's why

00:29:40.000 that's the bottom of your class. The Smithsonian Institute said a year ago that, uh, the nuclear

00:29:44.420 family and work ethic, the Protestant work ethic, and objective truth are tools of white

00:29:49.180 supremacy. Being on time is a tool of white supremacy. But what I want to know is this, especially

00:29:53.060 with regard to this, the shooting in Atlanta at the massage parlor, the guy who's perpetrated,

00:29:58.360 it says, I, I am a sex addict and I basically, I gave into lust and that was the sin that drove

00:30:04.220 me to this. And everyone said, well, no, you're a racist. Racism is what it's wrath and pride.

00:30:09.240 Basically, those are the two deadly sins that lead you to racism. Can it also be other sins?

00:30:14.560 Couldn't it be lust? Couldn't it be like, why is it that as a culture, we've completely lost

00:30:19.140 a sense of all the other sins, all the other vices. And it's just this one very particular

00:30:24.260 sin of racism. It's all malleable also, right? There was an entire article today in the New

00:30:28.860 York times about how this guy had claimed that it was because he had a sex addiction and because

00:30:33.020 he was addicted to sex, this is what drove him to this list. He's a piece of crap. And

00:30:35.660 you know, his views are of no consequence. But if we're talking about societal trends that

00:30:40.080 are a problem, you know, when, when you talk about sex addiction and pornography addiction,

00:30:44.020 I mean, pornography addiction is a very real thing in our society for sure. But what the piece

00:30:47.040 said, and this is the part that was hilarious, said experts doubt that sex addiction leads

00:30:50.880 to this. I'm old, I'm old enough. So here's the thing. I'm old enough to remember when

00:30:55.960 Bill Clinton claimed that he was a sex addict. Yeah. Right. And the entire media went, oh,

00:30:59.860 well, you know, that's a thing, right? That's probably, first of all, if you want to talk

00:31:03.520 about a sex addict, that's just called a man. It's a man. The best thing, the best thing

00:31:07.800 about sex addiction is that the 1-800 number to get help starts off with for a good time

00:31:13.100 call. Yeah. I think one of the dangers here, to Drew's point that, well, there's a question

00:31:20.680 about why are all these women ending up in sex trafficking? Michael, you, you, you, you

00:31:26.160 point out, well, sex addiction, why did that drive them to it? So we're, because we're so

00:31:30.680 focused on racism, we're neglecting every other societal problem. And there are a lot of really

00:31:35.900 interesting and important questions that we should be asking and dealing with. That's the

00:31:38.800 point. And it's just like there was the awful case a week ago of the black teenagers breaking

00:31:45.220 into a guy's house, a white man, mentally disabled, setting him on fire. These kids are 16 and 14 years

00:31:52.700 old and they break in and we still don't know why. And this is hardly being reported by the media.

00:31:57.540 And of course the races, if it is reported, the races are taken out of the story completely.

00:32:02.160 But 16 and 14 year old black kids go into a white man's house, set him on fire, watch him burn for

00:32:08.700 a little bit and then just leave and he dies. And we should be asking the question, what is going

00:32:13.840 on in this country that would lead a 14 year old kid to settlement black or white or doesn't matter

00:32:19.260 his race. What is going on that would lead a 14 year old kid to do that? And, but that's a question

00:32:24.040 we're just not talking about it because we can't talk about the issue at all. But that's the point.

00:32:28.860 It's intentional. They want us to focus on race because they're destroying America, right?

00:32:32.980 Which is the easiest way to destroy America, right? So you're, you're, you're saying, look over here,

00:32:36.460 look over here, but we're burning down all of these things. They don't want you to address

00:32:40.400 the actual ill. But I, but I have a, I have a theory about this that we've never talked

00:32:44.100 about before. I think, which is, uh, the, I think the culpability of the church and the

00:32:48.800 reason that the church is in such trouble in America, uh, you know, David French often

00:32:52.940 talks about how, you know, the evangelical church has lost its way as is evidenced by its

00:32:58.140 support of Donald Trump. And he'll say, you know, if you go back, uh, to the late nineties

00:33:04.180 during Clinton impeachment, mid nineties, you have, you know, I don't know what it's

00:33:07.740 called, but all the pastors got together and signed, you know, the, the Frenchian

00:33:11.680 accords where they said that it's very bad and character is destiny. And now we've forsaken

00:33:16.060 that and the church has lost its way. And now it's just an instrument of politics. And

00:33:19.660 I've been thinking about that now for the last two years. And I believe that, uh, the

00:33:24.320 church actually did lose its way. David's correct, but it lost its way in the nineties,

00:33:29.420 not now in the nineties, the, the late eighties and the nineties, the church made a decision

00:33:33.580 which culminated in the impeachment saga, which was that the church was going to go

00:33:38.340 all in as a political instrument in the country. They did it in the name of being the moral

00:33:42.140 majority. And they carried, they carried freight for the Republican party who was having a hard

00:33:47.800 time explaining the simple concept of, because we're so bad at media Republicans, they couldn't

00:33:52.380 explain the simple concept of perjury to the American people and make them care. And so the

00:33:57.220 church said, well, don't worry, we've got it. We're going to say that it's about something

00:34:01.120 that it actually isn't about, which is, you know, a man laid down with a woman, uh, and

00:34:05.280 a cigar and we definitely need to kick him out of, I think they were love is love. I don't

00:34:08.960 know. But that whole idea of the church as a moral instrument, as opposed to the church

00:34:16.060 as a community of, of people seeking righteousness from God, righteousness is a distinct concept

00:34:22.700 from morality. And when the church went all in on morality, which does have a massive cultural

00:34:28.840 component, I think that they were sealing their fate because in the late eighties, the, the morals

00:34:34.360 that the church cared the most about were like, don't say bad words, don't have sex before your

00:34:38.040 marriage, uh, before you're married and don't smoke. And the morals of our country have changed.

00:34:43.200 And the majority morals within the church now are don't be racist. Uh, don't, uh, apologize

00:34:50.440 for your whiteness. Um, and I guess we're a mask. Don't offend anybody else. I take issue

00:34:55.800 with part of this because I think first of all, the, the original sin was, was in the

00:34:59.420 Reagan era when they became the moral. That's when they became the moral majority. And it was

00:35:02.720 a reaction to abortion. It was the idea that, Oh, these, these people in Washington, you know,

00:35:08.620 it was just Supreme court judges, not elected officials can suddenly say you can't make a

00:35:12.700 law about abortion. And I think that woke a lot of evangelicals up to the fact that the

00:35:16.860 culture was going South. The problem to me is not, you know, about morality or righteousness.

00:35:22.000 The problem is about the world. The church was never there to make the world a better place.

00:35:25.960 There's no place in the gospels where Jesus says, go out and make the world a better place.

00:35:29.700 What he says to you is the world in this world, you will have your problem and you're going

00:35:33.880 to get crucified and then proved it, you know, that that's, what's going to happen to you.

00:35:37.720 And what they want is to be relevant. I mean, I think, uh, John MacArthur talks about this

00:35:42.060 all the time. They want to, they want to have an effect on the world instead of having an

00:35:44.940 effect on people's souls. Now, yes, if people's souls are saved, I think that's going to make

00:35:49.280 for a better world, but that is an, an actual secondary point. Once the church decided that

00:35:55.160 it was going to be a, uh, an engine for world change, for world betterment, they were lost

00:36:00.780 because the world is actually, I don't think we're saying, I don't think what we're saying

00:36:03.940 is radically, because what I'm saying about morality ultimately is that

00:36:07.700 righteousness can't be judged with human eyes. This is why Christ says, if you have

00:36:11.560 lust in your heart, you are an adulterer. Or if you have hate for your brother, you are

00:36:15.040 a murderer. He doesn't, he's not Yoda. He doesn't say, if you have hate for your brother

00:36:18.040 on the path to murderer, you are one because God sees the heart of a man, right? And his

00:36:23.840 judgment isn't limited like ours is to just the things that we can measure and observe

00:36:28.240 with our senses. Morality is the things that we can measure and observe with our senses.

00:36:33.420 And so when the church goes in for morality, it's, it's, I think it's the same thing. We're

00:36:38.080 basically saying that the church was only interested in what it could measure and not

00:36:41.700 in the actual substance that undergirds the things.

00:36:43.600 There's something, I mean, I mean, there is, you know, when Jesus is asked, how will I be

00:36:47.400 saved? He does reference six of the, of the 10 commandments. I mean, he does, there is,

00:36:52.200 there is a moral law. I think there was a natural moral law that we live by and basic things

00:36:57.680 that you can't do and be moral.

00:36:59.120 Yeah. Don't smoke. Don't say bad words. Don't have sex before marriage and don't be racist.

00:37:02.860 And wear a mask. Don't forget that.

00:37:05.700 And wear a mask. Yeah, wear a mask.

00:37:06.540 Isn't the problem more that...

00:37:07.780 The most gospel of St. Fauci.

00:37:09.680 St. Fauci, yeah.

00:37:10.300 The problem is more, I know you don't like this term, but it seems to me the problem is

00:37:13.900 more the church gave up on objective morality. You're talking about the church adopting the

00:37:18.740 morality of the age and how it changes over time, which of course, that's exactly the problem.

00:37:23.700 And it's absurd that people are going and sitting down in pews and listening to,

00:37:26.840 listening to sermons about the dangers of racism, like every single person agrees.

00:37:31.160 You don't need to say it. There's no reason to give a sermon on it.

00:37:33.940 What they've gotten rid of is the fundamental universal morality. And we're not talking about

00:37:39.000 that as much, but I know you don't like the objective morality term.

00:37:42.660 I don't like the term objective morality, but I don't fundamentally disagree with what

00:37:45.760 you're saying. I disagree with the language around what you're saying. God's standard is

00:37:48.800 himself. God's standard is righteousness. And my understanding of the gospel is that he says

00:37:54.620 that the only way that you attain that righteousness is as a gift. As Corinthians says,

00:38:00.000 one Corinthians, not two Corinthians. He says, Christ has become for us wisdom from God. That

00:38:05.440 is, he has become righteousness. Or as Romans says, now a righteousness made manifest apart

00:38:09.760 from the moral law, apart from the law, the righteousness that's found through the faith

00:38:13.680 of Jesus or in the faith of Jesus Christ.

00:38:15.280 But he does, but he does say that the law will be written on your heart, you know, you

00:38:19.680 know, so that, but that's, again, now we're talking about the unmeasurable thing. We're

00:38:23.480 talking about the heart of a man, which is where God lives, which is where righteousness

00:38:26.540 lives.

00:38:27.040 There is a sense too, I think on this distinction between objective morality and this kind of

00:38:31.700 like culturally relativistic thing where it's always changing and we didn't smoke cigarettes

00:38:36.660 in the eighties and now it's whatever, wear a mask is the traditional understanding of

00:38:41.220 conscience of your moral conscience is what is that it is a judgment of reason where you

00:38:46.640 can distinguish between good and evil. It's not just like my feels man. And it's not like

00:38:51.300 what Dr. Fauci tells me it is one day. It's like you can rely on your faculties of reason

00:38:56.780 to it very imperfectly, but still with some, you know, reliability measure the difference

00:39:03.240 between good and bad. And we've completely lost that.

00:39:05.900 I mean, even, even Aquinas talks about the, you know, when we rely on reason, it's reason in

00:39:10.140 coordination with revelation. We all, we all have to, we all have to acknowledge that the

00:39:13.880 basis that we are using our reason upon is revelation because reason unmoored ends with

00:39:18.860 the catastrophes of the 19th and 20th centuries.

00:39:21.680 That's right. No, you're right.

00:39:22.500 And so what we're watching right now is, is that happen in, in when churches, synagogues,

00:39:29.660 when they refuse to speak in religious terminology, when they refuse to talk about the inerrant word

00:39:34.780 of God. And instead, when they start talking about kind of broad moral terminology without that

00:39:39.320 underpinning, this is why you end with this bizarre situation where the Pope reaffirms

00:39:43.200 2000 years of teaching about same-sex marriage and the entire, right. And breaking news, the Pope

00:39:48.960 didn't cave to modern standards of same-sex marriage and transgenderism. Why would you expect him to do

00:39:54.060 so? And the only reason that society expects him to do so is because that they, they believe that

00:39:57.420 the church is so engaged with the world that it's up to the world to change, change the church,

00:40:00.520 not the other way.

00:40:01.040 Well, I love this point because in a sane culture, the shocking breaking news would be if the pontiff

00:40:08.100 presiding over the most enduring institution in the entire civilization just changed the views

00:40:14.120 overnight, right? That would be the shocking thing. But in this world where we're so absolutely

00:40:19.260 imbibing progressivism all the time, we're so intoxicated on it, the shock is that he doesn't

00:40:24.980 do it over.

00:40:25.380 Right.

00:40:25.780 But this is one of the reasons why, on a deeper level, our politics is fundamentally broken

00:40:30.800 because we don't share the same framework. We're not even speaking within the same framework.

00:40:34.040 That's it.

00:40:34.480 Well, I know, and it's funny because I would then add that I actually think one of the biggest

00:40:37.620 issues, and obviously this is, I think what underpins everything we're discussing though,

00:40:41.480 and it goes back to like reason, is that people just don't think critically because we are actually

00:40:46.020 producing people not to think. I mean, how many people do you think that go to church have

00:40:49.420 ever even actually read the Bible?

00:40:51.420 Oh, very few.

00:40:52.640 I walk around DC, like my husband and I live in DC, and literally I see LGBT flags on the

00:40:59.860 churches, okay? Black Lives Matter flags on the churches. Like this is actually, they have

00:41:05.380 become political institutions.

00:41:06.960 When you fly a pride flag of any kind, maybe read page three.

00:41:13.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:13.520 Open up your Bible to page three.

00:41:15.500 Yeah, it's fascinating, you know, and it's like, you know, trying to find a church for

00:41:22.220 when we were trying to find a good church in DC, it was incredible. I mean, it was just,

00:41:25.420 I'm really going, it's, we've just gotten so far, and then you couple that with the education

00:41:29.500 system where they're actually teaching kids to suspend critical thinking, just remember

00:41:33.220 what we're telling you, right? So they wouldn't even be able to reason. The kids can't reason

00:41:37.300 at all, right? And this kind of, this takes us all the way back to the Greeks, right? And

00:41:41.860 Socrates and running around and saying, take care of yourself, right? Emmanuel Kant, the

00:41:45.920 Enlightenment, like there's so many, I just feel like society is just, it's almost cyclical

00:41:49.940 at this point, right? Where it's like, people don't think, they just do. And we're at the

00:41:54.360 part where, you know, you get a little nervous about the state of things today and what's

00:41:58.280 going to happen with America, because if you speak to the average child, they're just,

00:42:01.860 they don't think at all.

00:42:02.880 What's new, I think, right now, and I've been referring to this book because I really think

00:42:06.360 it's fabulous. There's a book by Carl Truman called The Rise and Triumph of the Modern

00:42:09.680 Self. And I think it's tremendously explanatory of just where we are as a society. And that is that

00:42:14.460 we, over the past couple of hundred years, have redefined what happiness means. What happiness used

00:42:19.260 to mean, and for most civilizations meant, is that you as a child were a barbarian. Kids are

00:42:23.900 barbarians. Anyone who has kids knows that small children are barbarians. As the father of three

00:42:27.560 young children, they are wonderful barbarians, right? That's what they are. They're innocent,

00:42:31.080 wonderful, tremendous barbarians. And your job to make them happy is to teach them about the nature

00:42:36.500 of the world and the realities of the world and how they can adapt to living within that world,

00:42:41.520 right? That is the job of a parent, right? You don't want your kids to run the streets,

00:42:44.160 they'll get hit by a car, and you don't want them to violate the laws of nature because then they

00:42:47.480 will be cutting against their own nature and the reality that surrounds them. Well, in the early

00:42:52.200 18th century, well, mid-18th century, there's this move away from individuals are defined by reference

00:42:59.880 to their institutions and how they adapt to those institutions to individuals are defined by what

00:43:03.280 they are inside. There's a very Rousseau move where your individual happiness is now reliant on your

00:43:08.400 ability to define yourself however you see fit. Now, he didn't feel that was super dangerous because

00:43:12.100 he was still living inside a set of rules and boundaries that he took for granted, but then

00:43:16.180 those rules and boundaries went away. I mean, this is Nietzsche's point, right? Once you get rid of

00:43:19.540 the rules and boundaries, then without God, with God being dead, who's to define any of these rules

00:43:23.940 and boundaries? And so now the only thing left that matters in this world is how you define yourself

00:43:28.300 on the inside, right? Because all of the rules and boundaries, those are actually impediments to how you

00:43:32.640 define yourself. So the point that Carl Schreeman makes, and he brings this forward to transgenderism,

00:43:37.300 is that religious people, traditionally conservative people, they look at this and they go, this makes

00:43:40.760 no sense. How can you say that I identify as something that I obviously am not? And how can

00:43:44.540 it be that when I say you're obviously not that, this makes me a bigot? And also if I say biology says

00:43:48.420 you are not this, how does that make me a bigot? How is that even possible, right?

00:43:51.100 That's why I brought up Emmanuel Camp, because you can't define yourself unless you can think,

00:43:55.780 right? You get what I'm saying? There is no thinking. There is no reasoning. How are they going to

00:44:00.640 define themselves? But what really, the point that Truman is making is that because self-definition

00:44:05.300 has now been defined as happiness, as opposed to adapting to the circumstances around you in

00:44:10.080 accordance with reason, right? Which used to be called virtue. Because we got rid of virtue,

00:44:13.780 the basic idea of happiness is whatever floats my boat, but the rest of the world has to adapt to

00:44:18.380 the flotation of my boat, right? I mean, if the rest of the world puts a hole in my boat,

00:44:22.840 the rest of the world has imposed on me. If biology puts a hole in my boat, biology has imposed on me

00:44:28.100 because I am this thing on the inside that defines itself. And all of nature, all of humanity

00:44:32.960 has to adapt itself to my whim. Otherwise, it's an actual harm. And that's why when people say,

00:44:38.800 you're harming me because you're denying my existence. I'm not denying. I see you right

00:44:42.720 there. You're a person. I just disagree with you. No, you're denying their existence because as soon

00:44:45.760 as you deny their ability to express themselves and to identify as they see fit, it's the only thing

00:44:49.720 in the entire world that matters. And so it is not enough to say, do whatever you want in the

00:44:53.300 privacy of your own home or your nidalgo gets whatever surgeries you want. That's not enough.

00:44:56.280 People require approval. People require that you cheer for them. And if you don't cheer for

00:45:01.200 them, it's an active violation of who they are. Well, what I know for an absolute fact is that

00:45:05.420 the definition of happiness is having lots and lots of stuff.

00:45:09.880 Yeah, of course. You know, people living today, they don't know how to think. They don't know

00:45:14.720 how to remember. I'm so grateful that I didn't grow up in the age of social media where

00:45:17.680 every single thing you ever did as a child has been chronicled. All of your bad decisions exist.

00:45:22.960 If you want to see a photograph of my grandpa, you've got to go to my grandma's house, dig

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00:45:32.100 it up, gingerly remove the plastic covering and hope you don't rip grandpa's face off.

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00:47:11.180 Yeah, just jumping on that book, which I only just started reading it, but what I found attractive

00:47:18.620 about it is that Truman is taking transgenderism as the starting point, as this obviously incredibly

00:47:26.340 significant fact about our civilization. Maybe the most significant fact right now is transgenderism,

00:47:32.140 because it speaks to our idea of the self. Right. And this goes to, like, another problem

00:47:38.340 we have is that conservatives often are very slow to understand and react to what's happening

00:47:43.180 in the culture. So I can remember five years ago talking about transgenderism and the response

00:47:48.760 that I would always get from conservatives, even now sometimes, but certainly five years

00:47:51.900 ago was, why are you talking about this? It's a sideshow. It's a fad. It'll go away.

00:47:58.620 And my point then and now is, no, no, no, no, no. This is the fact that this makes sense to so many

00:48:03.860 people. That's right. Speaks to, they have an idea of fundamental reality, which is absolutely

00:48:10.680 divorced from me. And it's an almost unbridgeable divide. And if we get to a point where half of the

00:48:17.040 country, 80% of the country has that idea of the self as a, as a self that you can simply make

00:48:22.620 yourself based on your own emotions and your own whims, then we just, we don't, we're finished

00:48:27.640 because we're finished as one, as one, as one country. It's ultimate subjectivism, right? Because

00:48:31.880 the only thing that matters is how you identify interior in, in your interior life, which no one

00:48:37.000 has access to. Right. And every single other objective claim about the universe is a threat to

00:48:41.660 that. So if you bring data, you're now a bigot, right? This is, we, we've all felt this,

00:48:44.480 right? You bring data, you bring biology. If you make objective claims about the world,

00:48:48.080 if you ask for data, right, all of this is a sign that you are intolerant and a bigot,

00:48:51.980 but also believe the science. But this is, this grows out of, I was talking to Matt about this

00:48:56.340 before the show started. This grows out of one of Russo's children, who is Foucault. And I read

00:49:01.700 Foucault and Derrida when they first started coming out, but then I decided to go back and I'm rereading

00:49:06.360 one of Foucault's major, major books called the nature of things, the order of things. And he's a grifter,

00:49:12.440 which, which, no, which, which didn't occur to me the first time I read it. Cause I thought

00:49:15.920 this was kind of interesting philosophy, but his, he makes the point that natural science is a

00:49:20.320 complete invention because all of biology is one thing. And it's only us imposing this order on

00:49:25.680 it. And my first thought was, that's interesting until a turkey tries to mate with a coyote. And

00:49:30.240 then you realize, no, there actually is an order of things. And this idea, his idea is basically that

00:49:36.260 power constructs all identity. So if that's true, everything you are is created by me,

00:49:43.240 is created by the powerful people around you who impose that on you. And so we have that power to

00:49:48.300 change you. And so if you say you're a woman and I say, no, you're not, I'm doing an act of

00:49:52.420 violence to you. I'm actually, because my power is a threat to you. The fact that all, none of this

00:49:56.960 is true. Uh, it doesn't seem to bother. Well, he's French. You know, that's what the French do.

00:50:01.120 What the French do is they say, they say false things beautifully. You know, I mean, what a

00:50:05.200 great sentence, but totally untrue. You know, the Germans say true things incomprehensibly,

00:50:09.920 but the French. But I think that because the power dynamics of the society were perceived to

00:50:14.140 have shifted over the past 10 years, that's why all this stuff is coming to the floor right now.

00:50:17.780 Meaning that when, if you said power, power decides the fate of societies back when the left felt it was

00:50:23.560 not in control. Right. Then that's a dangerous thing to say. Right. Because then the right says,

00:50:27.860 oh, okay, you're saying power decides the fate of societies. Well, we have some ideas about what we can do

00:50:31.080 with that power. It was only during, I think, probably Barack Obama's second term when the

00:50:35.240 left thought they were never going to lose another election. It's why Trump came as such a shock to

00:50:38.700 them because they thought literally they had created the unbreakable coalition. It was, they were never

00:50:42.360 going to lose another election. They were the coalition of the ascendant. They, I mean, there

00:50:45.660 were so many articles about the browning of America having defined, because demographics was destiny

00:50:50.040 and unshakably Democrats were going to continue to win for all time. And all of that was false and all

00:50:54.480 of that was nonsense. But it was at that point they started to say, you know what? Everything in life is

00:50:58.460 defined by power. But now we wield the power. And because we wield the power, we can reshape all of

00:51:02.700 these institutions. And that has never let up. The desire to reshape all the institutions. And

00:51:06.820 Biden now with his victory feels that he gets to reshape all the institutions. I mean, the notions of

00:51:11.060 Ibram Kendi have now entered, I mean, talk about a grifter. The notions of Ibram Kendi have entered

00:51:16.320 every aspect of American government from top to bottom. It's insanity. I mean, the State Department

00:51:20.980 declared today that they were going to redo how they staffed the State Department on the basis of

00:51:24.580 equity. And they were going to achieve racial balance in the State Department. I just thought

00:51:28.660 I said I was going to hire all white people. And I got like 20 lawsuits.

00:51:34.740 Does anybody else feel, though, that we're living in an illusion in the sense that we're actually at

00:51:40.480 the end of something? We're not at the beginning of something. They think that they're at the

00:51:43.980 beginning of leftist paradise. But I can't help noticing that even what even though Biden is doing

00:51:49.460 some things that are radical, that really all he's doing is he's stealing your grandchildren's

00:51:54.740 money to prop up things that have already failed, like pensions and Obamacare and all these socialist

00:52:00.420 ideas that have just failed. I can't help feeling that we're at the end of an epoch. And that's why

00:52:06.820 Of course we are. That's why our presidents keep getting older and older. We've had three presidents

00:52:11.260 who were born in 1946. And now we have one who was born in what, 45? It's a it's a very bad sign

00:52:19.380 for society when you can't make generational change in your in your chief executive. You know, there

00:52:25.340 there is to this like just it's pure will, right? It's this imposition of will to Ben's point. Once

00:52:32.240 you have unfettered self-definition, it's all just whatever I want, I'm going to get. And it gets to

00:52:37.920 your point, Candace, which is you you can't think and they won't let you think. I know that references

00:52:43.220 to George Orwell, like references to Hitler and the fall of Rome, are usually tedious and overdone.

00:52:49.660 But here's one that I think really matters. In 1984, Orwell says they control the public through

00:52:55.740 the new speak, you know, through this kind of PC jargon and through surveillance and all these things.

00:53:01.140 But most of all, through double think, through getting you to think mutually contradictory ideas,

00:53:07.800 at the same time, like materialism and Gnostic transgenderism or whatever you use, whatever

00:53:13.580 example it is, because they can't allow you to think. And this idea that these boomers are just

00:53:17.920 holding on to power and the presidents are getting older and they're going to steal from the young

00:53:21.520 and the unborn and they're going to give it to me. It's such a gross act of will. All of the

00:53:26.120 censorship is based on this, right? That they will not have any reasonable debate. It's it would seem to

00:53:31.000 me that this can't last forever. It might it might last for a little while. I think the clash is yet to

00:53:36.140 come, though, meaning that I think Biden is a mask for for the clash that's about to happen. Yeah.

00:53:40.200 Right. This is the reason the Democrats need President Houseplant. They need him there

00:53:43.800 because he's hiding that that stain on the rug. Right. And then right now, if something were to

00:53:48.740 happen to him, God forbid, because you don't want anything to happen to anybody. But something

00:53:52.200 happens to Biden, God forbid, and Kamala Harris becomes president. And then you see this breakout in

00:53:55.940 the open because Biden is just a moderate face on extraordinarily radical ideas and policy.

00:54:00.300 And he's been able to avoid every question from the media because they are in league with all these

00:54:04.100 ideas. And most Americans don't find him threatening because who finds this old cooch shuffling around

00:54:08.220 can't string together a sentence threatening. There's nothing threatening. Everyone's a little

00:54:11.620 embarrassed by him. And you don't feel bad about him. You don't feel like it's hard. You don't hate

00:54:15.960 the guy. It's like elder abuse. I mean, you actually feel I actually genuinely like I have declined to

00:54:21.080 make fun of him because there's something really wrong about the fact that every single person in the

00:54:24.940 world knows that this is a man in decline. Every single person understands that he's senile.

00:54:28.940 We have Putin making jokes. Think about this. Think about the national security risk. Putin's

00:54:34.740 making jokes. We're seen as a joke right now on the world stage. And, you know, I have to say that

00:54:39.320 the vice president is getting the morning the presidential brief. Yeah, because the entire

00:54:43.820 president Harris today. He did. He called her president Harris on his campaign. Yeah. I mean,

00:54:48.020 he was he was saying, you know, under, you know, this campaign. I mean, he just wasn't there. And they

00:54:51.760 kept saying, oh, it's because of covid. We're hiding him. And it's like it was so obvious. You're fooling no

00:54:55.620 one. Least of all, everybody else in the world. America looks weakened. But I have to say that I

00:54:59.500 feel more optimistic about it because when you see this increase in censorship, it's not because

00:55:03.420 they're winning. Right. That's right. Like when Barack Obama won, they didn't have to have

00:55:05.960 a ton of censorship because people actually voted for him. Like, you know, people really loved

00:55:08.980 loved Barack Obama. It was like kinetic on the ground. You could feel that energy, you know,

00:55:13.940 about Barack Obama. They don't you don't feel that about Joe Biden. Right. So the Democrats,

00:55:17.720 like you said, were very surprised by a Trump win. They know that so many people in this country

00:55:21.740 don't like them and are passionately hate them is what we should say. Right. At least

00:55:25.120 75, 80 million Americans passionately hate the Democrats. So I think they're actually

00:55:30.000 feeling apprehensive right now in this moment, which is why they're rushing through these

00:55:33.220 policies of censorship, censorship, safety, safety. Yeah, exactly. And and doing all this

00:55:38.100 stuff is because they don't feel comfortable. Right. That's why. I mean, I think we talked

00:55:41.040 about this the last they're not acting like they won. You know what I mean? Winners feel

00:55:44.180 a little bit more confident. They're not acting confident right now. They know they don't

00:55:47.220 have the answers, especially on something like the gender topic. They know that they don't

00:55:51.000 have any responses to the arguments that we present because what they're saying

00:55:54.760 is incoherent. That's why it's so instructive that Amazon, like the one book that they're

00:56:00.220 censoring is Ryan T. Anderson's book on transgenderism. With the great title. Yeah.

00:56:05.680 When Harry Became Sally. When Harry Became Sally. Such a great title. And there are so many

00:56:08.940 other conservative books out there, many of them way more aggressive and objectionable from

00:56:12.900 the left standards than this. But but I think they're starting here because they know that

00:56:17.760 number one, this is this is a crucial, fundamental issue. And also they simply have no response to

00:56:22.600 that at all. And they know it. So all they can do is shut it down. The problem is they

00:56:26.060 have the power to shut down everything, any argument, because they own all the institutions.

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01:00:12.680 subscribers. Michael, it blows my mind, says a Daily Wire subscriber, that the left has changed

01:00:18.560 its stance on the kids in cages story. How bad is the crisis at the border, and why can the Biden

01:00:24.380 administration just get away with all of this? Why wouldn't they be able to get away with all of it?

01:00:28.800 What are you talking about? As Trump famously said, it was one of the best lines of, unfortunately,

01:00:33.240 an unsuccessful campaign. He said, who built the cages, Joe? Who built the cages, Joe? Because they had

01:00:37.960 this problem under Obama, the Obama-Biden administration. And by the way, the policies

01:00:43.140 that were being criticized went back even further. They went back to the Clinton administration.

01:00:47.620 And so it was always a disingenuous attack against Trump. Jen Psaki, I thought, had a great line the

01:00:52.340 other day. When liberal journalists finally started asking or saying, hold on, you're separating kids

01:00:57.140 from their parents, or whatever the adult was that was bringing them. You're putting them in cages at

01:01:02.480 way higher numbers than Trump ever did. You're doing it during a pandemic. That doesn't seem so

01:01:07.080 hot. What's up with that? Why are you doing that? And what does Jen Psaki say, as they're cutting off

01:01:11.760 all media access to the cages? She says, there's not a lot of options. Right. There weren't a lot of

01:01:18.820 options during the Trump administration, too. And the problem here is that you've got horrible incentives

01:01:24.500 being pushed by the Biden administration, where he says on the campaign trail, come, surge the border,

01:01:30.100 get on over here. You're still hearing this from the secretary of DHS. He's saying, yeah, don't come

01:01:35.200 now. But like, you know, what, two months come and then it'll be fine. So you're creating all these

01:01:39.000 incentives. Who the hell is going to listen to that? Right. Oh, yeah, you're right. Now that you've

01:01:41.860 surged forces to the border, you're literally telling me when you're going to put the officers

01:01:44.720 at the border to catch me. Don't rob the bank right now. We'll have the security there later, guys.

01:01:50.200 Yeah. Don't try to take over Afghanistan. We're leaving in two months. Here's a question for Candace from

01:01:56.520 Drew. Hey, why doesn't Jeremy call on me more often? No, it's a different

01:01:59.940 truth. He wants to know, because the left's vision of identity politics, whatever happened

01:02:06.760 to Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream of judging someone not by the color of their skin, but by

01:02:10.940 the content of their character? Seems like such a famous quote from such a well-known civil rights

01:02:15.140 activist has been forgotten or ignored today. Yeah, his dream became a nightmare. They literally

01:02:20.660 want you to only judge on the basis of skin. It's the exact opposite. And like you said, it's all of

01:02:25.700 these competing points where they say, oh, yes, we should prop him up. We need to extend

01:02:29.580 February and I almost called it Black Lives Matter month. I can't even think of anything

01:02:35.240 about Black Lives Matter. Black History Month. Black History Month. Black Lives Matter month.

01:02:39.780 No, Black History Month. But they actually know nothing about black history. It's incredible.

01:02:43.300 You know, the people that they celebrate during black history would be so against everything

01:02:46.760 the left is doing. It's so counter to everything that they fought for. You know, Frederick

01:02:50.880 Douglas. I'm like, what do you know about Frederick Douglas? Like, what do you know about Booker

01:02:55.000 T. Washington? What did you have you read Up From Slavery? They know absolutely nothing

01:02:58.720 because if they did know, if they were actually educated about these people and they weren't

01:03:03.220 just, you know, one-liners to put on your Twitter, they'd all be conservative and they'd all be

01:03:06.960 Republican and they'd be on our side. So, you know, what happened to his dream is it became

01:03:11.600 a nightmare and it became a nightmare because of the Democrats who were always the racists in

01:03:16.140 this country, who have always seen, you know, the power that they can gain from race. And right

01:03:20.940 now, that's all it is. Whenever you hear of the term racism, you know, to me, it's always

01:03:25.000 a power play. And the irony, of course, being is that the people that suffer the most because

01:03:29.520 of these policies are black people. Do you think black people are going to get ahead when

01:03:33.040 you're teaching them? You don't have to be punctual. You don't have to get A's. You

01:03:36.580 don't have to even try. We're going to put you in these schools. OK, now you're out of

01:03:39.660 school. What happens to you in life? Do you think you're going to get a job at Goldman

01:03:42.420 Sachs knowing nothing? They're going to be like, you know what? You did absolutely nothing.

01:03:45.220 But here's a big check for you. It doesn't work that way. You're actually training

01:03:49.260 them up to be failures, to be noncompetitive, so that you can keep propagating this problem

01:03:54.320 of black people, having them as the victims and saying, oh, look at you. It's been a lot

01:03:58.820 of years and you're still living like this. Well, it's because we know nothing but outrage.

01:04:02.420 And I will say this because I'm so passionate about this. I'm over answering this question.

01:04:05.880 What they're really doing is they're transforming black Americans into toddlers. You talked about

01:04:09.360 how toddlers act, right? The idea is to make them emotional. Know nothing and you're emotional.

01:04:14.080 That is literally what a toddler is, right? Why is a toddler scream when you say they can't

01:04:17.840 have candy, right? Because they don't know anything else but emotion. They scream.

01:04:21.620 So you remove knowledge from someone and teach them that every emotion they have is justified

01:04:26.660 and you create a society of toddlers and that society can't survive.

01:04:30.520 How conscious do you think? Do you think they're doing that on purpose?

01:04:33.560 1,000% intentionally. 1,000% intentionally. And so it's so, you know, it's just, it's so

01:04:39.300 important right now because the only people that are going to be able to stop this right now,

01:04:42.020 in my opinion, are black Americans. As soon as the victims say no thank you, right? As soon as you

01:04:45.820 say, like me, this is why they hate me so much, because if I just say, actually, I'm actually

01:04:49.200 not a victim. Actually, when you say to me, Candace, that, you know, you're a victim, you're

01:04:54.080 actually, you are the racist. You're telling me, when you say white privilege, you're telling

01:04:57.200 me that you're more privileged than me. That's literally, you're literally saying that I'm

01:05:01.380 under you. And to get offended when I say no thank you, I don't need it.

01:05:04.760 I'm also saying you can't unless I.

01:05:07.160 Yeah, unless I. Yeah, exactly.

01:05:08.680 Doesn't this go?

01:05:09.520 Treating me like a toddler.

01:05:10.320 This goes beyond, I mean, this is what you're talking about, turning people into toddlers and they're

01:05:13.760 emotionally driven. That's not just, they're not doing that just to black Americans. They're

01:05:18.280 doing that to all Americans. And also on MLK, if I'm to, just on that note of MLK, if I was

01:05:25.140 to prophesy a little bit, like five years in the future, maybe earlier than that, I'd say

01:05:29.060 for certain he's getting canceled and those monuments are going to come down. And it seems

01:05:33.800 shocking now, but that will happen because number one, his message, they don't like. And

01:05:38.940 number two, he was, he was a flawed man. He was a deeply flawed, imperfect man. As all

01:05:43.160 great men, all, all people are deeply flawed. Great people tend to have great flaws. And

01:05:47.320 he did too. So that's, that's going to happen even to MLK. Even the, the great historical

01:05:52.860 heroes that still survive now, eventually.

01:05:55.580 Yeah, the left has seen its own because no one can live up to their ever evolving.

01:05:59.240 My theory is that in the future there, it's not that there, there will be monuments, but

01:06:02.420 the monuments will be monuments to brutality. Meaning that they won't actually be able to

01:06:06.820 build a monument to anyone because everyone is flawed. And so that means all the monuments

01:06:09.960 have to come down. So instead it'll just be a statue of George Washington whipping a

01:06:13.240 slave. Really, that will be, that will be the statues of the future. The statues of the

01:06:16.840 future will, will be all of America's sins encapsulated into marble.

01:06:20.100 My, my prediction is that the, of cancellation is George Orwell. They're going to say, they're

01:06:24.780 going to find something on him and say, this, this entire book is now canceled because

01:06:28.740 it's exactly what they're doing. It's almost like a playbook.

01:06:31.040 But what they're doing to Orwell is actually much more, I think insidious, which is that

01:06:34.760 they just reinterpret him to say the opposite of what he was actually saying.

01:06:38.480 They don't read. That's a, that's a point.

01:06:40.280 Everyone I know believes, everyone I went to school with, we had, we didn't read 1984,

01:06:44.280 but we knew the reference and it was a reference to American right-wing fascists.

01:06:49.400 Yes, of course.

01:06:50.060 You know, and you see now that they're making this animal farm. Is it Netflix?

01:06:53.380 Who's, I think so with Christian Bale, with Christian Bale, you know that that's going

01:06:56.280 to be an anti-Trump.

01:06:56.980 You know why though? It's because George Orwell, this is the line they always trot out is George

01:07:01.900 Orwell was a democratic socialist. He actually was. And you have to read what he writes about

01:07:06.520 democratic socialism to understand what that means. But he says, every, all of my writing

01:07:10.660 that I've ever undertaken is to promote democratic socialism. As I understand it, as I understand

01:07:16.920 it is doing a lot of work there because he was part of this movement of intellectuals at

01:07:20.560 the time that were turning against Stalin. And you know, there were, everyone likes to overstate

01:07:25.800 the distinction between Stalin and Trotsky and all that, you know, it's sort of the right wing

01:07:29.420 does this too. We all like hate each other, but you know, it's really, we broadly agree.

01:07:33.740 Fundamentally, the distinction between these socialist communist thinkers is one guy won

01:07:39.540 and killed the other guy.

01:07:40.740 I was going to say, he had the ice pick. The ice pick was the thing.

01:07:44.240 The ice pick, that's right. That was the distinction.

01:07:45.920 So here's a question for me from MGM, which is one of the better studios. I am a subscriber

01:07:52.360 from Switzerland. And due to cultural, due to the cultural reach of the U.S., many habits

01:07:57.220 and norms often tend to gain a foothold in Europe after they have sprung up in the States.

01:08:01.940 What advice would you give to our continent or a single inhabitant, assuming that we are probably

01:08:07.020 six months to one year behind you in these matters?

01:08:10.720 Well, there's nowhere else to go. I would have said a hundred years ago, go to America, make haste,

01:08:15.880 get to the land of the free. But those days are gone. I actually think one of the great tragedies

01:08:19.900 in the world right now is that there are no frontiers. And I think freedom is a frontier

01:08:24.000 mentality. One of the things that made America unique is that people from all over Europe

01:08:28.780 who were seeking freedom left. They left comfort. We don't think about it. But they left the first

01:08:33.920 world. I mean, it's amazing. Drew and I actually toured the Ranching Heritage Center in Lubbock,

01:08:39.860 Texas together one time. And I remember one of your observations when we were looking at these

01:08:43.860 old wagons and farm implements and ranch implements from the late 1800s. And these grainy

01:08:52.740 photographs of what the landscape looked like and what people were enduring at that time. You said,

01:08:57.460 for God's sakes, Europe had Dickens at this time. And it's true. They had hospitals and roads and

01:09:03.660 lights and public works. And people were leaving that behind to go to a barren wilderness and carve

01:09:10.080 life out of almost certain death because they wanted freedom. I think it's one of the reasons that

01:09:15.440 Elon Musk is kind of an inspiring figure. Whether or not you think that man can thrive on Mars,

01:09:21.580 I'm skeptical. We can't even thrive in Antarctica. But what he's doing is inspiring because what he's

01:09:26.060 saying is, what if there is still another frontier? What if there is still a place where free spirits

01:09:30.300 can go? What if there's still a place where we can start anew and build? Because that's what

01:09:34.400 conservatives fundamentally do when we're not conserving. What we fundamentally do is create.

01:09:39.660 We go, we create, we carve out of the wilderness, we build civilizations, and we do the very hard risk

01:09:47.420 heavy work. And then over time, after we've done that, after we've cleared the path, then the leeches

01:09:53.420 can show up and they can just slowly pull all the things that we built down and sort of reappropriate

01:10:00.520 themselves. But the very same logic that says your body and to some degree defines you says that

01:10:06.080 freedom is a space, is an actual physical space. You know, I mean, we are, we live in an incarnate

01:10:11.940 world and you have to find a place to be free. And I think that that is a problem.

01:10:15.840 By the way, quick note on Europe, just to get back to the question about what Europe should do,

01:10:20.260 they should say no. And they're starting to say no. You're starting to actually, you're starting to

01:10:23.360 see actual European leaders who are more conservative than people in the United States now.

01:10:26.800 That's right.

01:10:27.320 Yeah.

01:10:27.420 That's how crazy.

01:10:27.980 Which is humiliating.

01:10:29.260 France. France came out and France was like, we don't want any of this critical race theory nonsense.

01:10:33.000 That's not how Frenchmen think of each other. By the way, no is the most important word.

01:10:39.760 No is the most important word for conservatives today. No matter what corner of the globe

01:10:43.600 you happen to occupy.

01:10:44.360 Here's the thing. It's generally been the most important word forever.

01:10:47.280 That's right.

01:10:47.900 And for all of human history.

01:10:49.060 By the way, Ben, to go back to Japan, which I think you guys all know, I have a weird fascination

01:10:52.960 with Japan. But like, look at Japan. I mean, do you, I mean, like the rules in Japan in terms

01:10:57.060 of trying to get into this country, which also fascinates me. I told you my, um, my sister-in-law lives

01:11:01.680 in Japan. She lived for 10 years. All of her children were born in Japan. She's a missionary

01:11:04.900 there. Their kids are not allowed to be citizens of Japan because they're just not Japanese.

01:11:08.980 Yeah.

01:11:09.480 Right.

01:11:09.780 Like, I mean, it's just incredible. Like the idea that America is a racist, if you actually

01:11:13.480 go look at the immigration laws of every other country and America is just a mess. I mean,

01:11:19.560 it's just, it's unbelievable. But, um, you know, there's, they're getting something right

01:11:24.620 in terms of the, the, the remarkable strides that you have to go through because they really

01:11:29.380 believe in their culture and they're united in this idea of what their culture is. Whether

01:11:32.040 you agree with their culture or not, it doesn't really matter. Right. But to say in order,

01:11:35.060 you're not just going to join this club by birth. You're not just going to join this club. Like

01:11:38.780 this is a culture and we believe in it and they have a culture. The problem with America

01:11:42.420 is that we have a bunch of people that don't believe in American culture. Right. And we have

01:11:46.340 the doors open and we're saying everybody come in and we're saying culture is wrong and

01:11:49.260 everything needs to coexist. And we know that it fundamentally cannot.

01:11:52.120 And not just people who don't know what it is. People who are funded by zillions of dollars

01:11:57.460 from the biggest institutions saying that we hate this culture and you should hate it

01:12:01.960 too. That's right. Here's a question for Matt, uh, from a subscriber also named Matt. So you

01:12:07.700 have to answer it. How did it feel to have the embassy of, uh, the embassy of Ireland respond

01:12:13.320 to your sarcastic tweet about internalized Irish phobia? Can you break down what started this

01:12:18.420 on Twitter? That was my greatest career moment. It says a lot about my career, I suppose. But,

01:12:23.620 uh, yeah, this is the, the actual Irish embassy responded to a trolling tweet from me where

01:12:30.280 I was, uh, where I was saying that if you're not part of, if you're not a person of Irish

01:12:34.240 descent, PID, PID, which is what I am. And if you add us with the marginalized groups,

01:12:40.580 we are PID, BI, POC, LGBTQIA, all that together. I always suspected. Plus, sorry. But anyway,

01:12:48.880 if you're not part, if you're not a person of Irish descent, then, then to participate in St.

01:12:52.540 Patrick's day is cultural appropriation. You know, you, my culture is not a breakfast cereal.

01:12:57.560 It's not, it's not. Um, and, uh, so I, I made that point and the, the, the Irish embassy could

01:13:05.580 not pass up the opportunity to virtue signal. So they responded saying, well, it's not true.

01:13:10.080 And anyone is welcome. It's, it's appreciation, not appropriation. Cultural appreciation is not

01:13:14.720 cultural appropriation. Which the thing is, I actually agree with them that cultural appropriation

01:13:19.020 is a nonsense concept. I'm sure we all, we all know that. Um, but the point is that if they had

01:13:23.800 said that appreciation is not appropriation about say a white person wearing dreadlocks,

01:13:28.380 they'd be condemned as racist, but they could say it in this case. And that's so, so tragic that

01:13:33.100 they only illustrate the point I was making your own people. Yeah. My own people turned on internalized

01:13:38.460 Irish phobia is what they were saying. Because I, I totally see this point on appreciation

01:13:44.880 appropriation. But if, if you're not allowed to appropriate any other culture, let's say you're

01:13:48.900 a white guy and you're not allowed to appropriate any other culture, but also you have to abolish

01:13:53.420 your own culture. What, what culture are you permitted to have?

01:13:58.980 One other thing about this appropriation thing, because of course, one of the ironies with St.

01:14:03.920 Patrick's day is that it's not even, you know, St. Patrick wasn't even Irish. He was kidnapped by

01:14:08.240 Irish pirates and, uh, which is great. I mean, he was appropriated himself. Um, but so many of the

01:14:14.300 things that are, that we say are appropriate don't even originate with the supposed culture that's been

01:14:18.740 stolen from dread. Yeah. Dreadlocks did not originate with black people. Uh, Kendall Jenner was

01:14:24.080 accused of appropriating tequila. Well, tequila was not invented by native Mexicans. It was invented by a,

01:14:29.460 by a Spanish aristocrat. So, you know, that's one of the ironies that so often the culture that's

01:14:33.800 supposedly owns this thing. Like the Vikings, they have no answer for that. You're not allowed

01:14:36.980 to wear your hair and braids or you're culturally appropriating from Africans. I guarantee you the

01:14:40.360 Vikings had no access to the continent of Africa. They weren't just like, Oh, look at this braid

01:14:44.420 down here. Let's bring that back up. I mean, it's like, it's incredible, but nobody, they don't

01:14:49.540 know history. They don't know, they don't know anything. They just know we decided this is ours

01:14:53.300 and you, now you're not allowed to wear your hair and braids. And it's just like, are you kidding?

01:14:56.460 It was fantastic though. I mean, when the embassy responded to you that way, it was legitimately hilarious.

01:15:01.440 Twitter moments where like, you're just like, why is Matt, why, why is he trending? And

01:15:05.620 then like, you look and you're like, it's never, it's never for anything significant. It's always

01:15:09.260 like the dumbest issue. Emojis, dog, St. Patrick's day. It's never been an issue. And now it is.

01:15:15.620 And that really sums up Twitter. Here's a question for Andrew Klavan from someone named Lauren,

01:15:21.160 who is a subscriber at dailywire.com. You should be too. Head over there, dailywire.com slash subscribe.

01:15:25.280 I'd love an honest opinion from Klavan on Jen Psaki. I'd love an honest answer. What do you think

01:15:34.500 about her? How is she doing? And how does she compare to previous press secretary?

01:15:39.020 Well, it is the worst job on earth because you probably take it thinking you're going to

01:15:43.240 communicate the wonderful vision of the president you believe in. And you wind up lying like a dog.

01:15:48.460 And that is what she's doing. And it's, it's, it's sad to watch her. I mean, she dug, but dug like a

01:15:54.760 dog. No, I'm going to circle back on this. No, I just, I just think that it's sad to watch somebody

01:16:03.440 devolve into a, just a constant liar. This, the, the smallness, you know, I, I saw this during the

01:16:10.380 Trump administration with Melania, like a lovely, a lovely woman who did a good job as first lady,

01:16:15.460 couldn't get on a magazine cover. An actual model couldn't get on a magazine cover. And it was just

01:16:20.220 so small and petty. And I find that now with the Biden administration refusing to give any credit

01:16:27.020 to Trump and his operation warp speed, which really did help these, uh, these vaccines get out there.

01:16:32.300 And, and basically this pretense that the board today were yet today or yesterday, uh, she actually

01:16:38.220 said, she actually said, Oh, you know, the, the, the border thing, we were stuck with, uh, Trump's border

01:16:44.560 policies.

01:16:45.460 I think Trump's border policies were like keeping people out and stopping them on the other side of

01:16:49.980 the border. So they didn't come over. You let them all come in and now we've got this crisis.

01:16:53.980 So she's in this impossible position. This is a, this, this presidency is a crap fest. This

01:17:00.080 presidency is going really badly and she's, her job is to defend it. And in order to defend it,

01:17:04.860 she has to lie and lie and lie. And I think it's degrading to her, but that's what she's doing.

01:17:09.180 You know, is she doing it well? No, she's doing it. It's openly except she doesn't have the press,

01:17:13.560 you know, climbing down her throat.

01:17:15.580 And I will say in her defense, and I'm only saying anything in defense cause we're both

01:17:18.880 from Stanford, Connecticut. Um, but I will say her defense. It also is hard because like,

01:17:23.880 because I, you know, it was very chummy with the past administration. Like, you know,

01:17:27.420 the amount of time that Sarah Sanders and Kayleigh McEnany spent with the president every

01:17:31.080 day. They're having conversations, strategizing, doing these things. She doesn't, she doesn't do

01:17:36.540 that with Joe Biden, right? She's flying in the dark. You know what I mean? Like she's flying in

01:17:40.060 the dark. Half the time she's learning things from them because he's obviously not, doesn't have his

01:17:44.300 mental faculties about him. So he's not sitting down with her, you know, love him or hate him.

01:17:48.320 Trump's got his mental faculties about him, right? He's fighting. He's a fighter. He's a bull,

01:17:52.020 whatever it is, he's going to tell you what he thinks and what he wants you to go out there and say.

01:17:55.360 Biden is just, you know, a puppet. So it's, it's, it makes her job even harder. And at the end of the

01:17:59.920 day, you're correct. It is her, it's her job. I don't know why I keep saying at the end of the

01:18:03.500 day, it can also be at the beginning of the day. You're the face of dishonesty, but the dishonesty

01:18:07.000 is really deep in the administration. It's a rotten job. Yeah, it's a rotten job.

01:18:10.000 There's far too much empathy happening right now. It sucks. You're bringing empathy to this show.

01:18:15.680 You can ask me when we stop making fun of the guy. What is she going to say? You know,

01:18:17.960 I haven't spoken to my boss in 63 days. But you are right. I mean, to say that you're right that the

01:18:21.780 empathy is a little bit misplaced because again, when you just crap all over the last administration

01:18:25.760 and you act like it was the peak of dishonesty and then you're going out there and you're lying,

01:18:29.920 every single day. 63 days without a press call. Could you imagine if Trump did not speak to the

01:18:36.240 press for 60, what they would have said? What would the headlines have been? My favorite is when they,

01:18:40.680 when they say, can we have the statistics? And she'll be like, well, the Department of Homeland

01:18:43.540 Security has those. I'm like, right. You're the executive branch. Do you have the statistics?

01:18:46.540 She's like, well, you can go ask the DHS. They're like, well, can we ask the DHS? She's like, no.

01:18:49.820 No. Ben, this question is for you from James. With this most recent spending bill and the grand

01:18:57.560 possibility of higher interest rates, do you think that it will cause a depression? And if so,

01:19:02.020 how bad will it be? So I don't think it's going to cause a depression the immediate term. I think

01:19:05.000 that what Biden has the benefit of, economically speaking, is a natural recovery that was certainly

01:19:09.840 going to happen. This is the most artificial depression in the history of the United States.

01:19:13.400 It was the COVID lockdowns that caused the depression. And when COVID was relieved, then

01:19:16.740 the depression was going to end and was going to come back in a massive, massive way. So he has the

01:19:20.840 benefit of being able to lower the GDP growth rate from 8% to 7% with crappy taxes and bad spending

01:19:25.200 policy. And nobody notices because it's still 7%, which is this extraordinary growth rate.

01:19:29.680 What you are going to see is an inflation of the currency because it has to happen.

01:19:33.640 The amount of debt that we are now servicing is extraordinary. I mean, we're spending hundreds

01:19:38.580 of billions of dollars every year just to service the current debt that we have. Forget about the

01:19:41.520 debt that we just took on. And that money can only come from three places. It can come from

01:19:44.860 inflating the currency, i.e. printing more dollars, to raising more money with bonds, and three,

01:19:48.600 higher taxation. And if you do either of the first two too much, then one of them kicks in,

01:19:54.760 right? If you end up selling too many bonds, then inflation ends up kicking in. If inflation

01:19:59.660 kicks in, then it kills the bond market. You're going to have to raise the interest rates,

01:20:03.700 which means that all of the loans become more expensive, which sinks the economy.

01:20:06.600 Well, they actually did something that people aren't talking about this last week, which is

01:20:11.080 that Fannie and Freddie decided that they were going to cut dramatically how many second mortgages

01:20:15.440 they would buy. Fannie and Freddie buy up almost 70% of all the mortgages in the country. So it

01:20:20.880 doesn't matter. You may have gotten your mortgage through our buddy who, I got my mortgage recently

01:20:25.480 from an old high school pal of Michael Knowles's. It doesn't matter if you get it through one of the

01:20:30.660 major banks, Wells Fargo City. It doesn't matter if you get it from a local mortgage bank. Probably,

01:20:36.140 most likely scenario, Fannie or Freddie are going to buy those up in the secondary market and then service

01:20:41.380 them over time. And what that does, because the government essentially is buying almost all of the

01:20:46.960 mortgages, it really helps drive those interest rates down because the secondary market is so

01:20:51.620 robust. But what the left hates right now, the AOC left in particular, they hate landlords. They hate

01:21:00.180 owners who they see as exploiting renters, right? It's this very class thing. And so it's a very subtle

01:21:06.300 thing, but by Fannie and Freddie saying they're not going to purchase nearly as many, dramatically fewer

01:21:11.820 second, third, fourth mortgages, it instantly drove up the interest rate for second homes by

01:21:20.080 two and a quarter, two and a half percent. Like all left-wing plans, of course, this means renters

01:21:26.680 will have to pay more because it's much more expensive for people to buy homes. But this is

01:21:33.560 the thing about the left. Every trick that they use to interfere with the economy actually has a

01:21:38.180 compounding effect on... So the other thing about the left is the left believes that gravity doesn't

01:21:43.040 always apply. That's right. You can violate every rule and then if you violate every rule, then sooner

01:21:47.200 or later you'll violate a rule and there'll be no consequences to having violated the rule. And so

01:21:51.080 they just keep violating rules. Whether you're talking about the rules of marriage, whether you're

01:21:53.820 talking about the rules of gender, biology. If you're talking about the rules of economics, the same

01:21:56.840 thing applies, right? They believe deeply in modern monetary theory, which is the idea that we can just

01:22:00.640 continue to blow out the spending. And because other economies are not as robust as the American

01:22:04.560 economy, people will continue to buy our bonds endlessly. Well, that's only true so long as the

01:22:08.360 American economy is growing robustly. The big problem here for Republicans on the economy is

01:22:12.940 because the natural recovery is going to be so unbelievably strong over the course of this year

01:22:16.560 and next year, by the time things start to cool off, it's already going to be 2024 basically. And there

01:22:22.700 is a delayed effect to a lot of the policies that are getting kicked in right now. So you're going to

01:22:26.080 see the economy start to slow. Pretty much everybody agrees with this, like 2024. By 2025, you could start to

01:22:31.500 see the economy really start to enter into some dark territory and we'll have no ability to take

01:22:36.040 up more debt to actually prop up the stimulus. I would say that it's going to take five to six

01:22:40.480 years to feel the impact of what we're seeing right now. And like, you know, anything else in

01:22:46.560 the economy, everything's good until it ain't. It's not like it just gradually slows. At my age,

01:22:51.780 these predictions are very encouraging because I've reached the point where people say long-term effects

01:22:56.680 and I go, yeah. Yeah. The Keynesian in the long run, that has become for you very, very immediate.

01:23:05.600 Gentlemen, Candace, Michael, we're, we've been here damn near forever.

01:23:11.240 It feels that way. Yeah. It's been a long, long, long, long show. I want to wrap up with a rapid fire

01:23:18.120 question session from our Daily Wire subscribers. You know, the rules, I'm going to try to get through

01:23:22.180 as many questions as we can in the remaining time that we have. If possible, be pithy with your

01:23:27.720 answers. And if possible, let's just let the person being addressed answer. It's almost never

01:23:32.280 possible. We're going to, we're going to try. Here we go from our dailywire.com subscribers,

01:23:37.640 Candace from Nina. Have you lost family members or friends because of your beliefs?

01:23:42.460 Yes. Cousin. Two cousins.

01:23:45.580 Hmm. Those pithy? That's good. That's pithy. That's really good. I actually, what a painful

01:23:50.320 reality though. Yeah. I think we'd have to be so pithy on that. Yeah. Well, it's one of those

01:23:53.240 things, gosh, now I see it's going to be longer, but it's just one of those things where the weird

01:23:56.580 thing is that, you know, I think Trump made everybody really crazy and like the idea you

01:23:59.980 just kind of went really far in. But the thing is, is like now they've kind of cracked and want to have

01:24:04.700 like a relationship. And I'm sort of like, I don't think it works like that. I don't think it works

01:24:08.720 where like you get to just say horrible things about me. And then now I have to just pretend it didn't

01:24:14.100 happen. Like, and we've seen this a lot with even friends. Like now that Trump's gone, they're kind

01:24:17.740 of like, Hey, like, you know, and you're just sort of like, okay, I don't think it works like that.

01:24:20.520 Like you can't just say, I'm going to pretend you don't exist. You're a horrible human being. And

01:24:23.760 then because you got what you wanted, there's something very bratty about that. Right. I was

01:24:27.100 always here. I've been solid and I've been the same person. Um, so yeah, it sucks. It really sucked

01:24:32.640 when it happened. Time has passed. And so I've sort of been like, okay, well, you know, it is what

01:24:37.500 it is. I lost obviously friends, which was very easy, but the cousin stuff was really hard because I'm

01:24:41.240 really, really close with my family, but you can't, but you can't really go back is the weird

01:24:44.980 thing. That's tough. Yeah. Knowles from Alexander. I remember you mentioned in a show once that there

01:24:49.940 were good book burnings in history. Uh-oh. Yeah. I admit I'm not well versed in history, but I'd like

01:24:55.280 to know about those events. I'll give you an, I'll give you an example. I mean, obviously all the good

01:24:59.260 ones were when the Catholics burned all those medical books. So that's like the history. I'll give you,

01:25:03.460 I'll give you a, uh, that's obviously constant as a North star. But I'll give you,

01:25:09.320 I'll give you an example right now because the, the, the, the issue that I see is book burnings

01:25:15.920 are just the most ridiculous example of this, but there is always some sort of censorship and we,

01:25:22.260 you know, we don't like censorship because in the American context, that means a very particular

01:25:26.020 thing that we don't like, but there are always broad swaths of speech that are illegal and they

01:25:29.720 always have been in America. Uh, sedition, uh, fraud, threats, uh, obscenity for a long time,

01:25:35.840 but now it's like a little bit less so, but it was still being enforced during the George W.

01:25:39.020 Bush era. You had, you had pornographers going to prison, you know, for just gross stuff. Right.

01:25:43.460 And so this would seem to me, I'm not saying this is prescriptive. I'm saying it's a descriptive.

01:25:48.460 All regimes say that certain things are off limits and certain things are on limits.

01:25:52.680 And, um, in America, we've protected a huge swath of speech and I think all the important speech

01:25:58.800 and what's going on right now is that we're shifting those standards. So in, you know, in the fifties,

01:26:05.060 for instance, if you were a member of a communist group, you'd lose your career in Hollywood.

01:26:08.120 You couldn't work for the federal government. Alger Hiss paid a big price and no one believed

01:26:11.940 there was, that he was really guilty of it. The guy helped start the UN, right? He was really

01:26:15.760 subverting us policy. He got canceled. I guess that's perfectly fine thing. Bill Buckley wrote

01:26:20.840 a lot of books about how great that was. I wrote books and went on television, all this sort of

01:26:24.620 thing. Now you get canceled. If you say that, that men are not women, Ryan Anderson gets his book

01:26:30.900 burned digitally. Great phrase that you used on, on Amazon. That's really bad. You get,

01:26:36.500 you get canceled. If you wave the American flag, you, you get your career promoted. If you wave

01:26:41.180 the communist flag, but you get your career canceled if you wave the American flag. And

01:26:44.900 so I actually, I'm being somewhat provocative when I say there are good book burnings. What

01:26:49.440 I'm really saying, I feel provoked, but what, what I really mean by that is the reason that

01:26:56.340 we keep losing on this issue on political correctness, wokeism, cancel culture is because

01:27:00.960 I think we're not acknowledging the reality of the situation. What the left knows is some

01:27:05.600 things were always off limits. Some things were always accepted and they are shifting

01:27:08.980 what is off limits and what is accepted. And because we're not going to engage in the reality

01:27:14.060 of that, the history from 1776 all the way to the present and even further back than that.

01:27:18.600 I think that's why every time we try to fight this thing, time, you lose more.

01:27:22.160 Matt, from William, pithy, Michael, pithy. From William, where does your hate for dogs derive

01:27:28.340 from? Did you have a traumatic childhood experience or something?

01:27:32.960 No, I find them to be totally useless. Just these smelly, hairy beasts that don't belong

01:27:39.780 in the home. Now, dogs have, dogs existed, you know, for at least go back there. What's

01:27:48.300 the common ancestor for dogs? Wolves. And existed in the wild for millions of years. And they did

01:27:53.400 just fine without being inside a home with a wall and four walls and a roof. I just don't believe

01:28:00.620 that animals, we, we, we have evolved as human beings. We have earned the home. I don't think

01:28:07.180 that dogs have, dogs have not earned that. And we've earned it. Now, can I just say what really

01:28:14.020 annoys me, what really, what really pisses me off is when people say things like it's because it's

01:28:18.460 anti-human. When people say things like, oh, we don't deserve dogs. Like they see a, they see a

01:28:23.460 video of a dog, like bringing a slipper to his, to his owner. And they say, we don't deserve dogs.

01:28:29.400 No, they don't deserve us. We do everything for them. They don't do a damn thing. We feed them.

01:28:34.100 We pick up their crap. We give them a house. We do everything. And then you sit there and say,

01:28:38.800 we don't deserve them. What the, it's exactly the opposite. What have they done to deserve this?

01:28:43.380 We don't bring pigs into the home. We don't bring squirrels into the home.

01:28:46.040 Even a dog, even a dog, even a dog can eat the scraps from his master's table.

01:28:52.500 Yes, exactly. And we give them those scraps. They're not, they're not, they're not bringing

01:28:57.060 home food for us. So far we're in favor of book burning and hate dogs. By the way, Jeremy

01:29:02.200 quoted the Bible. Jeremy quoted the Bible. There's a book burning in the Bible, in the book of Acts.

01:29:06.640 The Christians burn their sorcery books. That's a great book. Burning your own book is not a book

01:29:10.320 burning. Ben, I love your impersonations. Which do you think are your best and which do you think are

01:29:15.440 your worst? My personal favorite is Beto. Let's hear it. I really love Beto. Beto doesn't sound

01:29:20.340 anything like Beto. Beto's not really an impersonation so much as sort of a generalized

01:29:24.200 mockery. It's more like, Beto roller, eating dirt in the Arizona deserts, braw, bone rip, kickflip,

01:29:33.780 Texas. That's the Beto. My Bernie is pretty good. My Obama is very good, actually. I always think

01:29:43.000 my Obama's underrated. My Kerry is good. My Trump is not good. My Trump, I was never able to get

01:29:47.900 Trump. You have to be kind of from New York, I think, to get Trump. All the best Trumps.

01:29:50.960 But the, the OG BS impersonation is Chris Matthews. Oh yeah, yeah. Chris Matthews. I was

01:29:59.280 always safe. You up in the morning, coming on to the show. Come on, roll in here. Looking

01:30:03.340 all rumpled. Then you know what everyone's talking about. Turn around, face the camera, start

01:30:06.720 jabbering. All right, roll M-A-C-C. Let's go. Chris Matthews. Candace from Sam. Congratulations

01:30:13.280 on becoming a mother. How has becoming a mother changed or impacted your political views? We'd

01:30:17.640 love to get everyone's take on this as well, but you ain't gonna, because we're going too

01:30:20.680 fast for that. We're just going to get it from Candace. Just feels like the political discussions

01:30:25.160 we're having are much more severe because they're going to have implications in the society

01:30:28.640 that my kids are going to come up in. So we didn't have this when I was growing up. Like,

01:30:32.420 it was like, hey, you're a girl and you're a boy. Cool. I'm going to go in the girl's

01:30:35.420 bathroom. You're going to go in the boy's bathroom. You know, it's so that stuff is

01:30:38.940 really scary, I think, for me now because I'm just going, I don't want my kid to be

01:30:41.880 around. I don't even want, like, can my kid just go to somebody's house and have a play

01:30:45.240 date? Or like, is that mom going to be like, you can pick your genders here? So I think

01:30:50.600 that that I feel like the urgency of the political conversations that we're having today. So everything

01:30:56.060 feels a bit heavier. Can I talk about being a mother as well? Yes, please. Self-identify

01:31:01.440 as a woman? I could. Go ahead. Right now, for the sake of that. He does chest feet. Oh, that was it? Yeah.

01:31:05.160 That was it. I'm good at pithy. You are. You did great. I was killing this.

01:31:10.960 This last question is for everyone. What is something that actually deserves to be canceled?

01:31:16.280 Drew? Well, actually, I'm actually now, I've changed my mind about this. I'm now in favor

01:31:21.280 of leftists canceling other leftists for not being leftists at all. Because I think the more that

01:31:26.740 happens, the more there'll be fewer leftists and we can just continue to welcome people in. And

01:31:31.900 it will basically be reduced to a few leftists and Americans. And that's a perfect situation.

01:31:39.420 Backstage.

01:31:42.520 Then I wouldn't have to be here.

01:31:43.820 The soft pitch.

01:31:44.720 Exactly. Right there. I want to go home, man.

01:31:47.580 In reality, the entire anti-racist movement needs to be canceled. It's awful for the country. It's evil.

01:31:55.160 It's garbage. And people who pervert language, freedom, and decency that way should not be

01:32:01.860 accepted into the home of anyone who considers themselves to be a decent human being.

01:32:06.060 Yeah. I have a long list, but the one that's bothering me the most this week is I want to

01:32:10.720 cancel anyone who tries to cancel someone for something that they did as a teenager.

01:32:13.980 Absolutely. Yeah, that's a great one. It's the most disgusting. What you're supposed to do as a child

01:32:19.540 is be an idiot. Learn lessons and grow up. And then people help grow you into an adult.

01:32:24.500 I received an enormous piece of grace once from someone who I had made a mistake with. And I

01:32:32.160 apologized to them years later. They were an adult at the time. I was a teenager. When I apologized as a

01:32:37.860 young adult, they said, a man should never apologize for the sins of a boy. And it was a great piece of

01:32:43.680 wisdom and a great piece of grace. And we live in such a graceless culture. There's the reason

01:32:48.820 you can't apologize, never show them your belly, never ever apologize. Because the whole idea of

01:32:53.620 an apology is premised on a culture of grace. We had this Christian culture, maybe not a Christian

01:32:59.380 nation in a literal sense, but a nation of Christians. And in a nation of Christians, an

01:33:05.300 apology is a great virtue. It's an acknowledgement that you've done something wrong. And we respond to

01:33:11.740 that act of virtue with another act of virtue called grace. And in a post-Christian America,

01:33:18.880 you only get the, you acknowledged that you were wrong. So if I call you a racist,

01:33:24.020 you apologize for being a racist. See, even you admit that you were a racist or whatever.

01:33:28.000 But to do that, as happened at Teen Vogue.

01:33:32.160 Teen Vogue told Lexi McCammon this today.

01:33:33.960 That's right, today.

01:33:34.680 Did you follow the story?

01:33:35.580 She actually...

01:33:36.540 She resigned. She resigned.

01:33:37.840 I know that was led by the right. There's something I like about that story, by the way.

01:33:41.400 Because what they started doing on the right is saying, okay, you guys want to do cancer

01:33:44.800 culture, we're going to lead it. And I think these tweets were dug up by conservatives saying,

01:33:48.900 play by your own rules. And she had to resign. And I kind of, that kind of goes back to your

01:33:53.940 point about like...

01:33:54.780 It does, yeah. That's what I was thinking of.

01:33:55.660 Until these people realize these rules are just not fair, because they've been doing it to

01:33:58.640 conservatives. The left created these rules.

01:34:00.440 I don't mind...

01:34:00.920 The left has to die by these rules.

01:34:01.880 I don't mind mutually assured destruction.

01:34:03.900 Yeah.

01:34:04.160 But I will say that I think it is... The fact that there is such a rule that could apply

01:34:08.700 to what people did in their youth is one of the most despicable aspects...

01:34:13.800 Oh, it's horrible.

01:34:14.380 ...of our culture today.

01:34:14.800 Absolutely. Oh, absolutely agree.

01:34:16.000 To your point, Jeremy, the late philosopher Roger Scruton said, civilization thrives on forgiveness

01:34:21.160 and on confession first, and then forgiveness, right? You confess, you sacrifice your pride,

01:34:26.460 you forgive, you sacrifice your resentment. Both people have something that means a lot to them.

01:34:30.920 And they give it up. You have society, and you can't do that anymore. So kind of what

01:34:34.560 we're all saying. Chesterton had a good line. He said, there is a thought that stops thought,

01:34:39.440 and that thought ought to be stopped. And Ben, you had a great tweet. I hate to say you and

01:34:44.000 Chesterton in the same breath, but you had a great tweet where you said there's a culture

01:34:47.520 that cancels culture. And coincidentally, this is sort of the thesis of my book that's coming

01:34:51.740 out. That needs to be canceled. And we cannot pretend that there's some reconciliation,

01:34:56.780 some middle ground between the two. There isn't. You've just got to stop that.

01:35:00.180 Mm-hmm. Candace?

01:35:01.680 I would cancel easily the transgender agenda, a movement, everything about it right now. I think

01:35:06.440 it's a cancer like we've never seen before in society.

01:35:10.240 Matt, the thing that our Daily Wire subscribers want to see canceled the most are those tight jeans

01:35:15.300 you're wearing. It's actually trending. Hashtag cancel Matt's jeans. Hashtag bring back loose jeans.

01:35:22.100 This is the second time I've been accused, the interview I did with Candace, that I was accused

01:35:27.280 of wearing skinny jeans. I go to the store, I say, where are your pants? And they point me to them,

01:35:33.560 and I just pick up a pair of pants. You shop? You call yourself a man, you son of a bitch?

01:35:37.680 My wife, my wife goes to the store. I assume that's the process.

01:35:40.920 Oh, no, no. There's no take notes. There's no take notes here.

01:35:44.540 Can I, for what I'm canceling though, which by the way, you said giving people a pass at teenage,

01:35:50.660 when they're teenagers. I really think it should be like 25 and under. I actually think if you're

01:35:54.320 in your 20s or 30s, everything you said and did up to about like 10 years and further,

01:36:00.520 it's because you grow so much in that age frame. Anyway, as far as what I would cancel,

01:36:05.780 everything that preys upon kids, so especially you go into Barnes & Noble and you see all these

01:36:12.000 kids' books, you know, indoctrinating. How many stores do you go in? It's madness.

01:36:17.540 This was one day. This was one day of shopping the other day. All of these things that prey on kids,

01:36:22.380 drag queen story hours, all of that. There's one thing we need to cancel. It's the way that

01:36:27.160 kids are indoctrinated. Please help me welcome Candace Owens to the Daily Wire by tuning in for

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01:36:50.120 the credit. And we all get a great laugh. Speaking of which, let's end this sucker on a good old

01:36:54.900 fashioned fake laugh. Thanks again for joining us for our discussion here. Joe Biden's terrifying

01:36:59.100 accomplishments. We will see you next time.

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