The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage： March Madness Edition

00:00:00.100 Hey everybody, this is Michael.

00:00:01.960 You're about to listen to our latest episode

00:00:03.980 of Daily Wire Backstage,

00:00:05.420 where I join Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan,

00:00:07.680 and the man who will one day fire me for real,

00:00:10.260 Daily Wire God King Jeremy Boring,

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00:00:14.900 and where we answer questions from Daily Wire subscribers.

00:00:18.280 Without further ado, here is Backstage.

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00:00:26.560 Welcome to the Daily Wire Backstage.

00:00:28.500 March Madness.

00:00:30.300 What is March Madness?

00:00:32.080 Who writes this crap?

00:00:33.420 Is that the one with basketball?

00:00:36.460 Basketball, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:37.500 The one with the hoop.

00:00:39.240 It's where you pay somebody to say

00:00:40.540 that your kid's a basketball star,

00:00:42.220 so they can get into your college.

00:00:43.440 Oh, yeah, March Madness.

00:00:44.920 That's how I got into junior college.

00:00:46.600 We've really hit a new low in terms of titling these shows.

00:00:50.000 It's a slow news month, my friends.

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00:01:18.920 Tonight we're going to talk politics.

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00:01:21.280 We're going to talk about Tucker Carlson's response

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00:02:34.880 All right, with me tonight,

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00:03:06.600 Can we add to that offer that they sit in for me?

00:03:12.580 Yeah, so it'll be like,

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00:03:19.180 Hey, Bob.

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00:03:41.480 It's not going to get anywhere.

00:03:43.340 We're going to talk about all kinds of things tonight.

00:03:45.400 Tucker Carlson,

00:03:45.980 we're going to talk about International Women's Day,

00:03:48.120 which happened over the weekend.

00:03:50.680 I'm still getting over the celebration.

00:03:52.580 I did see Captain Marvel because Drew is a sadist,

00:03:55.420 so he sent me down there.

00:03:56.760 I think we'll talk a little bit about college

00:03:58.540 and why you shouldn't go.

00:04:00.220 Since I'm the only one who didn't go,

00:04:01.620 I have a perspective on this.

00:04:03.100 But first,

00:04:04.140 I know a lot of people tune in for my clunky segues.

00:04:08.000 That's why I'm here.

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00:04:14.700 Who?

00:04:15.320 Bravo Company Manufacturing.

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00:04:20.920 The first right was making sacred

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00:05:43.460 you're particularly grateful for sponsors

00:05:45.240 on a news week like this week,

00:05:47.100 when we're watching Tucker Carlson face down,

00:05:49.720 a hit job from Media Matters.

00:05:51.960 Media Matters is the worst organization in America.

00:05:53.960 Yeah.

00:05:54.280 They're truly, it's an evil organization.

00:05:56.320 It was started,

00:05:57.480 for those who don't know the background of Media Matters,

00:05:58.980 Media Matters was started

00:06:00.000 by essentially Hillary Clinton

00:06:01.980 as a way to target

00:06:03.940 the so-called vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:06:06.540 It started in conjunction with David Brock.

00:06:07.820 What's his name?

00:06:08.140 David Brock.

00:06:08.660 All right, David Brock, the smear artist,

00:06:10.180 who, the formerly,

00:06:12.860 allegedly cocaine-addled smear artist,

00:06:15.000 who has spent his entire career

00:06:17.000 just going after his political opponents

00:06:19.540 while mistreating his own employees, allegedly.

00:06:22.080 And Media Matters was specifically designed

00:06:24.300 to go after people on the right.

00:06:26.140 It is not a media watchdog.

00:06:27.320 The media lie to people.

00:06:28.640 They say, oh, it's a media watchdog.

00:06:29.720 No, a media watchdog is an organization

00:06:31.800 that follows the entire media

00:06:33.500 and then calls people out on their mistakes.

00:06:35.000 Media Matters is the kind of organization

00:06:36.480 where internal memos showed several years back

00:06:38.660 that they were actively talking

00:06:40.140 about hiring private investigators

00:06:41.660 to shadow hosts at Fox News

00:06:43.600 to dig up crap in their private lives

00:06:45.280 so they could use it against them

00:06:46.340 and take them off the air.

00:06:47.700 Media Matters is now designating,

00:06:49.080 obviously, with Tucker Carlson,

00:06:50.500 some poor sap

00:06:51.460 who's using their sociology degree

00:06:53.480 to good benefit

00:06:54.120 by watching 100 hours

00:06:55.960 or listening to 100 hours

00:06:57.140 of Tucker Carlson

00:06:58.220 on old episodes of Bubba the Love Sponge

00:07:00.780 from 2006 to 2011.

00:07:02.480 And we have been told

00:07:05.720 that what Tucker said on there

00:07:07.040 is deeply important to everyone.

00:07:08.940 They are deeply offended.

00:07:09.800 Now, a couple of quick notes

00:07:11.040 and then I'm just giving the intro here.

00:07:13.400 A couple of quick notes.

00:07:14.500 Media Matters is badly motivated.

00:07:15.700 We all know this.

00:07:16.660 When Joy Reid of MSNBC

00:07:18.400 was caught in bad old blog posts,

00:07:20.240 Angela Coruscant,

00:07:20.860 the head of MMFA,

00:07:22.740 Media Matters for America,

00:07:23.820 came out and said,

00:07:24.660 no, this is a right-wing smear.

00:07:25.640 Of course, we shouldn't go after

00:07:26.700 any of her advertisers.

00:07:27.820 It's all a right-wing smear.

00:07:28.940 He himself has now been caught

00:07:30.180 in a bunch of old posts.

00:07:31.440 There will be no consequence

00:07:32.940 to any of that.

00:07:34.000 And Media Matters

00:07:34.580 deployed a bunch of protesters

00:07:35.560 to Fox News

00:07:36.240 not to call for Tucker's ouster,

00:07:38.780 but to call for

00:07:39.380 a complete advertising boycott

00:07:40.820 of the entire network

00:07:41.800 of Fox News

00:07:42.620 because they don't like Fox News.

00:07:44.080 Because Tucker Carlson

00:07:44.940 was on Fox News

00:07:45.700 when he said those things

00:07:46.540 on Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:07:46.900 No, no, no.

00:07:47.400 He was on MSNBC

00:07:48.100 when he said all of those things.

00:07:49.800 And here is the kicker

00:07:51.780 to all of this.

00:07:53.140 Media Matters designed

00:07:54.740 as a hit group

00:07:55.740 is being given

00:07:56.340 all sorts of credibility

00:07:57.120 by people who do not give

00:07:58.260 two craps

00:07:58.780 what Tucker said.

00:07:59.360 I was never a fan

00:08:00.880 of shock jock radio.

00:08:01.620 I don't like shock jock radio.

00:08:03.260 A lot of what Tucker said

00:08:04.440 was a joke.

00:08:04.940 Some of what Tucker said

00:08:05.580 wasn't.

00:08:06.020 It's shock jock radio.

00:08:06.900 It's specifically designed

00:08:07.680 for people to go on

00:08:08.360 and say the most offensive things

00:08:09.540 they can possibly say

00:08:10.820 for the listener.

00:08:12.080 And the attempt

00:08:12.780 to go after Tucker

00:08:13.880 for this old stuff

00:08:14.740 is not in good faith.

00:08:15.860 It's not an attempt

00:08:16.440 to ask him

00:08:17.200 what he meant by it.

00:08:18.100 It's not an attempt

00:08:18.640 to garner his views.

00:08:20.140 It is the same deal

00:08:21.000 they do with every

00:08:21.860 prominent conservative figure.

00:08:23.240 They try to go back,

00:08:24.000 find something

00:08:24.420 that they can cast

00:08:25.200 as embarrassing,

00:08:26.100 and then call for an apology.

00:08:27.100 If you apologize

00:08:27.900 and they step on your neck

00:08:28.920 and say you did something wrong,

00:08:30.240 obviously,

00:08:30.660 that means advertisers

00:08:31.280 should pull.

00:08:31.900 If you don't apologize,

00:08:32.960 they say you obviously

00:08:33.620 still believe that bad stuff

00:08:34.740 so your advertisers

00:08:35.480 should pull.

00:08:36.580 They go after you

00:08:37.220 to destroy you.

00:08:38.340 It is despicable.

00:08:39.880 It is despicable

00:08:40.500 because, again,

00:08:41.740 it's not about

00:08:42.340 you said something

00:08:43.120 in the here and now

00:08:43.740 that was bad

00:08:44.300 and now we're all reacting

00:08:45.340 to the here and now.

00:08:46.200 It is you pretending

00:08:46.960 to be outraged

00:08:47.760 about a thing

00:08:48.240 about which you are

00:08:49.060 eminently non-outraged.

00:08:50.400 It's also funny to me.

00:08:51.180 You bring up

00:08:51.600 that it was on

00:08:52.140 a shock jock radio show.

00:08:54.800 If you take yourself

00:08:56.020 back in time 10 years,

00:08:57.280 the heady days

00:08:57.880 of yesteryear,

00:08:59.520 conservatives weren't

00:09:00.320 the audience for that show.

00:09:01.540 Right.

00:09:02.080 Right?

00:09:02.500 So Tucker Carlson,

00:09:03.900 of course,

00:09:04.320 at the time on MSNBC,

00:09:06.060 goes on Bubba the Love Sponge,

00:09:07.640 something that almost

00:09:08.340 every conservative

00:09:09.020 in America

00:09:09.520 when they read this story

00:09:10.340 yesterday thought,

00:09:11.760 who?

00:09:12.340 What?

00:09:13.080 Because that entire format

00:09:14.940 existed basically

00:09:17.320 as a rebuke of the right.

00:09:18.340 It basically was

00:09:18.940 a left-wing comedy format

00:09:20.720 and to me,

00:09:21.700 that's actually

00:09:22.100 the worst aspect of it

00:09:23.600 is we now live,

00:09:24.980 we talked last time

00:09:25.660 we were together

00:09:26.000 about how we live

00:09:26.480 in a graceless age

00:09:28.140 and I think that's

00:09:28.580 a really important

00:09:29.140 subject matter.

00:09:29.860 We also live in an era

00:09:31.420 where there is no comedy.

00:09:33.720 Absolutely no comedy

00:09:35.300 is allowed.

00:09:36.260 You're not allowed

00:09:36.760 to be satirical,

00:09:37.680 satire's dead.

00:09:38.280 You're not allowed

00:09:38.700 to parody,

00:09:39.740 parody,

00:09:40.280 or totally through

00:09:40.900 the looking glass

00:09:41.520 on parody.

00:09:43.420 I've never,

00:09:44.040 like you,

00:09:44.380 I've never cared

00:09:44.900 for the shock jock format.

00:09:46.920 Maybe when I was

00:09:47.760 16 years old,

00:09:48.940 I might have grinned

00:09:49.860 a few times listening

00:09:50.780 to,

00:09:52.440 was it Tom Likas?

00:09:53.420 You were in that guy?

00:09:53.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:54.700 Once or twice,

00:09:55.500 but never a format

00:09:57.180 that really

00:09:57.680 did anything for me.

00:10:00.220 But we live

00:10:00.980 in a better country

00:10:01.780 when someone can go

00:10:02.880 on a shock jock radio show

00:10:04.060 and say outrageously

00:10:05.200 terrible things

00:10:05.980 and everyone snickers

00:10:06.800 at them

00:10:07.240 and then we move

00:10:08.000 on with our lives.

00:10:08.580 You know,

00:10:08.840 there's something

00:10:09.360 I want to add

00:10:09.780 to the Media Matters

00:10:10.580 picture though.

00:10:11.140 David Brock

00:10:11.720 was the former boyfriend

00:10:13.000 of the guy

00:10:13.540 who ran the pizza parlor

00:10:15.000 that was the center

00:10:16.000 of Pizzagate.

00:10:17.280 When the Pizzagate rumors

00:10:20.340 started,

00:10:20.860 that was when

00:10:21.300 the idea of fake news

00:10:22.660 before Trump took it over

00:10:23.880 started to spread.

00:10:25.020 Right.

00:10:25.200 And David Brock

00:10:25.900 said openly,

00:10:27.500 we are going to use this

00:10:28.680 to impose on social media

00:10:31.140 censors

00:10:32.840 who will cut down

00:10:33.700 conservative voices.

00:10:35.080 Barack Obama

00:10:35.720 picked up the thread,

00:10:36.580 Hillary Clinton

00:10:37.080 picked up the thread.

00:10:37.740 This is a very,

00:10:38.640 very sophisticated organization

00:10:40.140 meant to silence

00:10:41.680 the voices

00:10:42.320 of the opposition.

00:10:43.160 As you say,

00:10:44.300 it is not meant

00:10:44.920 to call people out.

00:10:45.760 It is not meant

00:10:46.240 to question ideas.

00:10:47.560 And this thing,

00:10:48.280 I mean look,

00:10:49.220 as far as I'm concerned,

00:10:50.480 for that day

00:10:51.240 when Tucker Carlson

00:10:52.580 stood up to these guys

00:10:53.520 and made that incredibly

00:10:54.680 precise opening speech

00:10:57.440 about the outrage mob,

00:10:58.720 for that one minute

00:10:59.700 he was the most important

00:11:00.680 person in America.

00:11:01.700 And the reason I say that

00:11:02.680 is the right to joke around

00:11:04.220 and make stupid jokes

00:11:05.240 and say things

00:11:05.900 that maybe you shouldn't say,

00:11:07.180 that's part of free speech.

00:11:08.580 And I don't think

00:11:09.320 it should cost you your job.

00:11:10.480 And by the way,

00:11:11.180 this whole thing,

00:11:11.720 he said it 10 years ago,

00:11:12.560 I don't care

00:11:12.920 if he said it yesterday.

00:11:13.800 I don't care

00:11:14.120 if he was sitting in a bar

00:11:15.020 and somebody heard him

00:11:15.760 have a couple

00:11:16.420 and say something

00:11:17.120 he shouldn't have said.

00:11:17.960 That's part of being

00:11:18.700 a human being.

00:11:19.440 It's part of being a guy,

00:11:20.760 especially.

00:11:21.380 Guys say stupid things.

00:11:22.680 We like to step over the line.

00:11:24.180 We're jocular.

00:11:24.880 We like to step over the line.

00:11:25.780 We say them sometimes

00:11:26.600 to make a point,

00:11:27.300 sometimes because they strike us

00:11:28.420 as funny in the moment.

00:11:29.900 We all do it.

00:11:31.200 And everybody can be caught up.

00:11:32.460 I will say,

00:11:32.960 I do think there's a difference

00:11:33.700 between old material

00:11:34.760 and new material.

00:11:35.340 New material,

00:11:35.860 we get to react in real time

00:11:37.100 to the stuff

00:11:37.460 that's being said now.

00:11:38.560 There's something

00:11:38.980 particularly off-putting

00:11:40.300 about digging up old stuff

00:11:41.700 that you were not outraged

00:11:42.800 over a decade ago.

00:11:44.020 And now you're re...

00:11:45.120 I agree,

00:11:45.740 but we have to distinguish

00:11:47.300 between the jokes

00:11:47.960 people make

00:11:48.520 and the things

00:11:49.200 that they are actually saying

00:11:50.200 and believe.

00:11:50.700 Of course I agree

00:11:51.580 that we should make

00:11:52.860 a distinction

00:11:53.300 between jokes

00:11:54.020 and people's actual beliefs.

00:11:55.320 Of course I believe

00:11:55.980 that we should be able

00:11:57.280 to say terrible jokes.

00:11:58.920 I think that it's

00:11:59.880 not only fundamental

00:12:00.580 to freedom,

00:12:01.240 it's an essential aspect

00:12:04.700 of how men

00:12:05.360 express themselves.

00:12:06.360 It's a form

00:12:06.940 of de-escalation.

00:12:07.760 Like racist jokes...

00:12:09.260 That's right.

00:12:09.620 There are two kinds

00:12:10.260 of racist jokes.

00:12:10.980 There are racist jokes

00:12:11.900 that are meant

00:12:12.220 to demean people

00:12:13.280 of other races

00:12:13.960 and people who make

00:12:15.460 those jokes are racist.

00:12:16.540 Then there's racist jokes

00:12:17.440 which are meant

00:12:17.860 to diffuse differences

00:12:19.120 between the races

00:12:20.220 and those jokes

00:12:20.800 traditionally were made

00:12:22.160 by all kinds of people

00:12:23.660 of good faith.

00:12:24.540 By the way,

00:12:25.060 you would have

00:12:26.080 comedy troupes

00:12:27.180 where these jokes

00:12:28.840 would be made

00:12:29.380 between the races

00:12:30.340 toward each other

00:12:31.020 and that was a part

00:12:32.120 of the de-escalation

00:12:33.300 during the civil rights

00:12:34.120 movement.

00:12:36.520 So this brings me

00:12:37.240 to what I actually hate

00:12:38.020 and the reason

00:12:38.420 that I fundamentally agree

00:12:39.740 that it's even worse

00:12:41.200 to go back

00:12:42.220 into the past

00:12:42.780 is because

00:12:43.600 the rules have changed.

00:12:46.020 I disagree

00:12:46.640 with the new rules

00:12:47.820 but I do recognize

00:12:49.100 that there are new rules.

00:12:50.240 I want to fight

00:12:50.700 against them,

00:12:51.120 I want to push back

00:12:51.640 against them

00:12:52.060 but we push back

00:12:53.040 within a certain framework.

00:12:54.440 It's particularly disturbing

00:12:55.920 to go back

00:12:56.700 to a time

00:12:57.340 when,

00:12:59.240 you know,

00:12:59.540 like next we're going

00:13:00.080 to go back

00:13:00.380 to Howard Stern

00:13:01.300 and start finding

00:13:01.940 all kinds of things

00:13:02.560 that were said

00:13:02.880 on the Howard Stern show.

00:13:03.640 Well, they already have.

00:13:04.200 I mean, right?

00:13:04.360 They go back to Friends

00:13:05.160 and they say

00:13:05.520 you can't watch the show

00:13:06.420 of Friends anymore,

00:13:07.060 the most popular show

00:13:07.800 of the 1990s.

00:13:08.840 You're not supposed

00:13:09.220 to watch it anymore

00:13:09.880 because there are episodes

00:13:10.860 in which people

00:13:11.860 are joking about gay marriage

00:13:13.260 or people are making jokes

00:13:14.680 about fat people

00:13:15.860 or people are making

00:13:16.560 racial jokes.

00:13:17.260 It's like,

00:13:17.500 oh, well,

00:13:17.680 you can't do that.

00:13:18.220 You're trying to superimpose

00:13:19.100 modern sensibilities

00:13:20.260 back onto people

00:13:21.960 in a different era

00:13:23.760 who abided

00:13:24.420 by different sets of rules.

00:13:25.160 It's also,

00:13:25.780 I mean,

00:13:25.980 it's fundamentally dishonest

00:13:27.120 in an extraordinary way

00:13:28.160 and that is that

00:13:28.900 once you,

00:13:30.560 what exactly is the ask?

00:13:32.500 So if you want

00:13:33.420 to make society better,

00:13:34.100 there has to be an ask.

00:13:34.860 So what exactly is the ask?

00:13:36.080 So I say something

00:13:37.160 on my show today

00:13:37.880 that's wrong

00:13:38.460 and the ask is,

00:13:39.620 okay,

00:13:39.720 I have to come on the show

00:13:40.360 tomorrow and I have

00:13:40.960 to correct it.

00:13:41.860 That's a fair ask.

00:13:42.760 I say something

00:13:43.300 that is offensive

00:13:44.260 or terrible.

00:13:45.360 It's my job

00:13:46.120 to apologize

00:13:46.580 to the people

00:13:47.200 that I was wrong to.

00:13:49.620 I'm not going to say

00:13:50.080 to the people

00:13:50.400 who were offended

00:13:51.320 because that puts

00:13:52.100 the onus on them.

00:13:53.380 Right.

00:13:53.520 If I did something wrong,

00:13:54.440 the onus is on me.

00:13:55.840 But what is the ask

00:13:57.180 when somebody said

00:13:58.100 something bad 13 years ago

00:13:59.460 and no one took offense?

00:14:00.960 Is Tucker supposed

00:14:01.500 to apologize

00:14:02.040 to Media Matters?

00:14:02.800 Because those people

00:14:03.280 can go F themselves.

00:14:04.380 Is Tucker supposed

00:14:04.900 to apologize

00:14:05.580 to people

00:14:06.040 who are offended now

00:14:06.740 by comments

00:14:07.220 that didn't make a dent

00:14:08.620 13 years ago?

00:14:10.200 I mean,

00:14:10.480 like here's a situation

00:14:11.420 in which I would say

00:14:12.400 Tucker should apologize.

00:14:13.260 So Tucker,

00:14:13.960 for example,

00:14:14.820 said,

00:14:15.100 made some comments

00:14:15.660 about Warren Jeffs

00:14:16.560 who was,

00:14:16.940 I guess,

00:14:17.540 tried and convicted

00:14:18.140 for facilitating rape

00:14:19.360 for,

00:14:20.280 he was the cult leader

00:14:21.220 and he was facilitating

00:14:22.180 child marriages

00:14:23.320 between a 27-year-old

00:14:24.220 and a 16-year-old

00:14:24.880 and Tucker made some comments

00:14:25.820 about how he thinks

00:14:26.800 that guy should be free.

00:14:27.660 Let's say that

00:14:28.260 Warren Jeffs' victims

00:14:29.280 had come forward

00:14:30.340 and said,

00:14:30.660 I was offended by that.

00:14:31.660 And Tucker said,

00:14:32.340 listen,

00:14:32.560 I was on Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:14:34.340 I was saying stupid stuff.

00:14:35.620 I apologize to you.

00:14:36.420 That seems to me

00:14:37.400 that that would be

00:14:38.160 a fair recompense.

00:14:39.440 But who is Tucker

00:14:40.000 supposed to apologize to?

00:14:41.200 The world at large?

00:14:42.640 He's just like,

00:14:43.100 he doesn't owe me

00:14:43.820 a damn thing.

00:14:44.460 He doesn't owe me

00:14:44.980 an apology

00:14:45.260 for something that he said.

00:14:46.740 Like, why?

00:14:47.500 This is what the left does.

00:14:48.700 The left gets offended

00:14:49.840 on behalf of other people.

00:14:51.680 You'll notice

00:14:52.340 nine times out of ten

00:14:53.400 it is always white liberals

00:14:54.960 who are pretending

00:14:56.060 to be offended

00:14:56.720 on behalf of every

00:14:58.000 allegedly aggrieved minority.

00:14:59.480 And it's even further.

00:15:03.100 Context is so important.

00:15:04.820 Context,

00:15:05.640 particular circumstances

00:15:06.800 are important

00:15:07.700 to everything in life.

00:15:09.200 And so when I speak

00:15:10.120 in public,

00:15:10.860 I don't swear.

00:15:12.060 I just try not to.

00:15:13.280 I don't like to do it.

00:15:14.640 When I'm at the bar,

00:15:15.860 I talk like a dirty sailor.

00:15:17.560 And I'm not sorry

00:15:18.500 that I do that.

00:15:19.220 I don't think it's wrong

00:15:20.120 that I do that.

00:15:20.880 I think it is right

00:15:21.860 and just.

00:15:22.660 I think it is perfectly

00:15:23.620 appropriate to those contexts.

00:15:25.860 So Tucker Carlson

00:15:26.680 is invited on this

00:15:27.620 shock jock show.

00:15:28.740 Now you could say

00:15:29.500 maybe you shouldn't

00:15:30.240 go on a shock jock show.

00:15:31.440 Maybe that's career advice.

00:15:32.760 Maybe the leftists

00:15:33.480 at MSNBC

00:15:34.180 should have told him

00:15:34.760 to stay off of it

00:15:35.540 instead of encouraging

00:15:36.580 him to go on it.

00:15:37.660 But instead,

00:15:38.300 he goes on the show.

00:15:39.700 Is he supposed to go

00:15:40.580 and play Bach

00:15:41.620 in a rock band?

00:15:42.700 Is that what he's going to do?

00:15:43.720 Is he going to go start

00:15:44.340 playing the Brandenburg Concerto

00:15:45.660 when he's with the Beatles?

00:15:46.680 This is interesting.

00:15:47.560 And I think that

00:15:48.180 the feminization

00:15:49.140 of Christianity,

00:15:51.220 which led to

00:15:51.640 the feminization

00:15:52.380 of American society

00:15:53.860 generally,

00:15:55.680 really contributes to this,

00:15:57.120 which is

00:15:58.000 men do

00:16:00.000 compartmentalize

00:16:01.640 behaviors.

00:16:03.300 Women,

00:16:04.120 generally speaking,

00:16:05.080 compartmentalize

00:16:05.920 relationships.

00:16:07.440 There's a lot

00:16:08.460 that's interesting

00:16:09.020 to unpack

00:16:09.900 from both of those

00:16:11.480 distinct,

00:16:11.920 from that distinction.

00:16:13.040 But if you take men

00:16:13.900 who compartmentalize

00:16:14.840 behaviors,

00:16:15.700 it doesn't just apply

00:16:16.840 to behaviors

00:16:17.580 within a sexual

00:16:19.300 or romantic relationship.

00:16:20.900 It is a compartmentalizing

00:16:22.220 of all kinds

00:16:23.320 of behaviors

00:16:23.920 within certain contexts.

00:16:26.340 And it is

00:16:27.000 a legitimate,

00:16:28.280 I agree with you,

00:16:29.820 there is a legitimate

00:16:30.600 argument to be made

00:16:32.940 that what is wrong

00:16:34.260 in one context

00:16:35.480 is not wrong

00:16:36.360 in another.

00:16:36.740 I mean,

00:16:36.920 obviously we can come up

00:16:37.600 with huge examples.

00:16:38.440 Killing someone in war

00:16:39.280 is different than

00:16:39.840 killing someone

00:16:40.420 on the street

00:16:41.220 so that you can

00:16:41.860 take his airboxes.

00:16:43.140 Killing someone

00:16:43.700 on Bubba the Love Sponge

00:16:44.680 is different than

00:16:45.420 killing him.

00:16:45.760 Right.

00:16:46.340 But even with

00:16:47.380 coarse language,

00:16:48.260 even with

00:16:48.980 body jokes,

00:16:51.020 even with

00:16:52.400 the sort of

00:16:53.680 ways that men

00:16:54.300 use disparagement

00:16:55.380 as a form of camaraderie,

00:16:56.960 things like that

00:16:57.940 are not always

00:16:59.360 appropriate.

00:17:00.240 I'm not saying

00:17:01.080 universally people

00:17:02.060 should be allowed

00:17:02.640 to behave this way.

00:17:03.880 I'm saying

00:17:04.380 in certain contexts

00:17:05.620 it's appropriate

00:17:06.340 for people to behave

00:17:07.120 that way.

00:17:07.140 But this is a

00:17:08.420 weaponization

00:17:09.100 of shock

00:17:09.800 and it's been used

00:17:10.620 now for 30,

00:17:11.980 40 years

00:17:12.420 against the entirety

00:17:13.940 of Western culture.

00:17:15.140 Before the show

00:17:15.840 began we were

00:17:16.360 talking about

00:17:16.880 all the references,

00:17:18.600 anti-Jewish references

00:17:19.620 that go like a thread

00:17:20.980 through all

00:17:21.520 of Western literature.

00:17:23.140 Now when they

00:17:23.840 teach literature

00:17:24.560 they go back

00:17:25.100 and say

00:17:25.280 well here's

00:17:25.600 an anti-female thing,

00:17:26.720 here's an anti-black thing.

00:17:27.940 The famous one

00:17:30.000 was the attack

00:17:30.620 on Jane Austen

00:17:31.620 for supporting

00:17:32.460 the English Empire

00:17:33.540 simply,

00:17:34.260 the British Empire

00:17:34.860 simply by writing

00:17:36.000 her books.

00:17:36.620 I mean that was

00:17:37.000 the Edward Said

00:17:37.760 argument.

00:17:38.660 It's been an attempt

00:17:39.200 to silence

00:17:39.720 all of Western

00:17:40.600 civilization

00:17:41.160 by this targeted

00:17:43.100 outrage

00:17:43.700 that doesn't extend

00:17:44.840 to everything

00:17:45.580 that everybody does.

00:17:46.520 I mean nobody

00:17:47.000 is going to say

00:17:47.800 oh Don Lemon

00:17:48.540 demonized white people

00:17:49.640 which he did,

00:17:50.400 white men,

00:17:50.980 nobody's going to say

00:17:51.780 he should be silent.

00:17:52.300 Here's a great example

00:17:53.340 of this that I've heard

00:17:54.040 you talk about

00:17:55.620 with our friend

00:17:56.240 Dave Rubin

00:17:56.760 that in one context

00:18:00.420 your position

00:18:02.000 towards Dave Rubin's

00:18:03.620 part is political

00:18:06.280 and as part

00:18:08.600 of your public advocacy

00:18:09.660 that you do

00:18:10.300 as a political voice.

00:18:11.740 In another context

00:18:12.880 it's congenial

00:18:14.080 because it's based

00:18:14.740 on your friendship

00:18:15.360 with Dave Rubin,

00:18:16.520 your general support

00:18:17.560 of his well-being

00:18:18.240 and his happiness.

00:18:18.800 Another example

00:18:20.260 might be the use

00:18:21.080 of certain pronouns.

00:18:21.980 Right, I've said

00:18:22.380 this about transgender

00:18:23.040 pronouns.

00:18:23.460 Absolutely.

00:18:24.020 This is exactly right.

00:18:24.500 In public

00:18:24.800 if somebody says

00:18:25.640 are transgender pronouns

00:18:27.240 the right pronouns

00:18:28.140 to use I will say no

00:18:28.860 because I don't believe

00:18:29.720 that there is a set

00:18:30.400 of pronouns

00:18:30.820 that is not connected

00:18:31.620 to biological sex.

00:18:32.440 Correct.

00:18:32.780 If I'm sitting

00:18:33.200 across the table

00:18:33.780 from a person

00:18:34.220 who's transgender

00:18:34.800 I'll use whatever

00:18:35.320 pronouns they feel like

00:18:36.200 because we're out

00:18:36.720 to dinner.

00:18:37.200 Why would I be a jerk

00:18:38.200 just to be a jerk?

00:18:39.080 It's called being polite.

00:18:39.880 Because context

00:18:40.960 does matter

00:18:42.180 when trying to make

00:18:43.060 a moral determination

00:18:43.900 about someone's behavior.

00:18:45.600 Of course it does.

00:18:46.260 The way that you can tell

00:18:47.880 that this is supreme

00:18:48.940 bad faith

00:18:49.420 is the pod bros today.

00:18:51.180 Pod Save America

00:18:52.040 they came forward

00:18:53.000 the Obama bros

00:18:53.880 they came forward

00:18:54.840 and they were

00:18:55.300 actively stumping

00:18:56.400 for people to attend

00:18:58.140 MMFA's rally

00:18:59.540 outside of Fox News.

00:19:01.400 These guys make their money

00:19:02.780 the same way that we do.

00:19:03.720 They make money

00:19:04.280 off advertising

00:19:04.940 on programs

00:19:06.460 like this one.

00:19:08.040 And because I make

00:19:08.900 my money off this

00:19:09.680 although I held this position

00:19:10.560 before we ever did this.

00:19:11.680 Of course.

00:19:11.940 With that said

00:19:13.420 understanding how

00:19:15.000 advertising works

00:19:16.300 in this space

00:19:17.020 and that advertisers

00:19:18.140 should be able to

00:19:19.200 advertise on a wide

00:19:20.320 variety of political

00:19:21.180 programs without being

00:19:22.140 perceived to have

00:19:22.860 endorsed any of the

00:19:23.820 views on those

00:19:24.500 political programs

00:19:25.460 I have never called

00:19:26.560 nor would I call

00:19:27.260 for a boycott

00:19:27.860 against the Pod Save

00:19:28.600 America bros

00:19:29.180 even though I think

00:19:29.780 that they are

00:19:30.160 actively promoting

00:19:31.320 policies that are

00:19:32.080 detrimental to the

00:19:32.760 country.

00:19:33.160 Actively promoting

00:19:33.820 a vision of America

00:19:34.480 that I think is false

00:19:35.260 dangerous and harmful.

00:19:36.720 I still think that

00:19:37.700 the advertisers who

00:19:38.420 advertise on Pod Save

00:19:39.220 America have every

00:19:39.980 right to do so

00:19:40.580 and boycotting them

00:19:42.220 is morally wrong.

00:19:43.900 And it's good for

00:19:44.660 America that many

00:19:45.400 of the people who

00:19:46.000 advertise on Pod Save

00:19:47.100 America also advertise

00:19:48.800 with us.

00:19:49.080 That's exactly right.

00:19:50.960 But the comfort level

00:19:52.140 you can see that

00:19:52.580 there's a tool of power

00:19:53.320 because the people

00:19:54.620 at Pod Save America

00:19:55.280 if they truly believed

00:19:56.260 that the boycottability

00:19:58.780 was mutual

00:19:59.560 if they truly feared

00:20:00.900 for the possibility

00:20:01.920 that we were all

00:20:02.540 going to go after

00:20:02.960 their advertisers

00:20:03.560 they'd shift their

00:20:04.060 position in a heartbeat.

00:20:04.700 But this is what

00:20:05.140 was so good about

00:20:06.000 Tucker's statement

00:20:06.680 is that he pointed out

00:20:07.960 that we're not playing

00:20:09.020 by the same rules.

00:20:09.700 We're in a conversation

00:20:10.500 they're in a jihad.

00:20:11.540 We're trying to argue

00:20:12.540 our point of view

00:20:13.600 and win.

00:20:14.440 They're trying to silence us.

00:20:15.560 They do it everywhere.

00:20:16.640 And what Tucker said

00:20:17.780 was that the right

00:20:18.880 too often plays along.

00:20:20.460 The right too often

00:20:21.260 pretends that there's

00:20:22.700 some kind of legitimate

00:20:23.340 thing going on

00:20:24.020 and we have to pull back.

00:20:25.580 And I don't think we do

00:20:26.360 especially I mean

00:20:27.020 because I do all the satire

00:20:28.200 I say all these absurd things

00:20:29.560 that I know are absurd

00:20:30.680 and you know are absurd

00:20:31.580 and I'm kidding around

00:20:33.080 but I know that you

00:20:34.040 could take those

00:20:34.540 out of context

00:20:35.140 and nail me with them.

00:20:35.940 I just don't care

00:20:36.760 because I do not feel

00:20:38.180 they have the right

00:20:39.580 to do that to me

00:20:40.260 and so I feel

00:20:40.780 it's only right

00:20:42.180 for me to stand up to him.

00:20:43.180 I think that is the argument.

00:20:44.020 But this is where

00:20:44.740 the left really plays

00:20:45.620 on I think

00:20:46.460 the morality of the right

00:20:47.640 meaning that

00:20:48.120 we all acknowledge

00:20:49.420 for example

00:20:50.200 that Tucker said

00:20:53.080 some stuff

00:20:53.500 that we don't like.

00:20:54.400 Of course.

00:20:54.840 Right?

00:20:55.300 Okay that stuff is wrong.

00:20:56.760 So instead of

00:20:57.820 so what the left will do

00:20:59.100 is they'll find the thing

00:20:59.920 that they say

00:21:00.960 is what he did wrong

00:21:02.180 and we may agree

00:21:02.720 that it's wrong

00:21:03.200 and we'll say

00:21:03.540 like as a broader principle

00:21:04.340 we're not going to call

00:21:04.980 for boycotts

00:21:05.500 or his destruction

00:21:06.140 for a thing he said

00:21:07.080 13 years ago

00:21:07.720 and they'll say

00:21:07.960 ah you agree

00:21:08.780 with the thing

00:21:09.180 that he said

00:21:09.620 13 years ago.

00:21:11.080 This is where

00:21:11.880 and you saw some

00:21:12.900 of this from the right.

00:21:13.580 This is where Tucker

00:21:14.020 is right

00:21:14.420 but the lesson

00:21:15.760 can be extended

00:21:16.180 too far

00:21:16.540 in the other direction.

00:21:17.400 So where Tucker

00:21:17.760 is right

00:21:18.120 is he says

00:21:18.620 okay well

00:21:19.440 what you guys

00:21:20.380 are doing

00:21:20.840 is in bad faith.

00:21:21.720 You are not

00:21:22.120 attempting to

00:21:22.840 police the dialogue.

00:21:23.860 You are attempting

00:21:24.240 to come after me

00:21:25.220 and destroy me

00:21:25.860 on the basis

00:21:26.300 of these old statements

00:21:27.040 and there are people

00:21:27.880 on the right

00:21:28.200 who fall for this

00:21:28.880 and you saw this.

00:21:29.440 You saw some people

00:21:29.980 on the right going

00:21:30.460 well Tucker

00:21:31.120 is not the hill

00:21:31.640 to die

00:21:31.920 and you really want

00:21:32.320 to die on this hill

00:21:33.160 defending this kind

00:21:33.900 which is a bunch

00:21:35.880 of nonsense

00:21:36.380 it's a bunch

00:21:36.740 of nonsense

00:21:37.120 because if there's

00:21:37.720 any hill to die

00:21:38.320 on it's the hill

00:21:38.880 of you don't get

00:21:39.640 to dig up

00:21:40.020 people's old crap

00:21:40.920 use it against them

00:21:41.960 without even asking

00:21:42.700 them what their

00:21:43.120 opinion on is

00:21:43.720 on it now

00:21:45.380 specifically in bad

00:21:46.800 faith to destroy

00:21:47.360 their career

00:21:47.700 like you don't

00:21:48.100 get to do that

00:21:48.520 it's a bad thing

00:21:49.040 to do

00:21:49.280 but on the other

00:21:51.240 side what will

00:21:51.660 happen is people

00:21:52.220 will say okay

00:21:52.680 well then I'm

00:21:53.500 just going to

00:21:53.740 double down on

00:21:54.120 everything

00:21:54.420 so somebody says

00:21:55.480 something bad

00:21:56.020 today

00:21:56.340 like an actual

00:21:57.780 bad thing

00:21:58.320 and it's today

00:21:59.300 should that person

00:22:00.300 apologize for it

00:22:01.180 and people on the

00:22:01.660 right will go

00:22:01.960 listen if I

00:22:02.440 apologize

00:22:02.900 I'm acknowledging

00:22:04.320 the left point

00:22:04.940 no sometimes

00:22:06.060 you have to

00:22:06.780 apologize

00:22:07.060 this is what

00:22:07.940 I liked about

00:22:08.540 Tucker's monologue

00:22:09.100 Tucker said

00:22:09.740 good people

00:22:10.620 when they do

00:22:11.000 something wrong

00:22:11.480 they apologize

00:22:12.040 but I'm not

00:22:12.540 going to apologize

00:22:13.320 to hyenas

00:22:14.020 I'm not going

00:22:14.980 to apologize

00:22:15.320 to the jackals

00:22:16.020 who have no

00:22:16.460 interest in

00:22:16.980 receiving an apology

00:22:17.860 and who are

00:22:18.880 looking to

00:22:19.960 destroy me

00:22:20.620 on the basis

00:22:21.300 of this old

00:22:21.820 stuff

00:22:22.040 as I said

00:22:22.640 I'm sure

00:22:23.440 that if

00:22:23.760 a victim of

00:22:24.640 Warren Jeffs

00:22:25.020 came to Tucker

00:22:25.420 and said

00:22:25.680 listen what you

00:22:26.160 said I'm

00:22:26.460 Bubba the

00:22:26.720 love sponge

00:22:27.100 in 2007

00:22:27.780 I didn't even

00:22:29.040 know about it

00:22:29.480 now I heard

00:22:29.860 about it

00:22:30.100 I'm offended

00:22:30.500 I'll bet you

00:22:31.200 that Tucker

00:22:32.900 it's the wrong

00:22:33.180 thing to say

00:22:33.700 but this brings

00:22:34.760 us back to our

00:22:35.220 conversation last

00:22:35.940 time we were

00:22:36.300 together where

00:22:36.720 we were discussing

00:22:37.640 the graceless

00:22:38.280 civilization

00:22:39.100 and you made

00:22:39.720 the point

00:22:40.140 that from a

00:22:41.300 tactical point

00:22:42.040 of view

00:22:42.340 it's always

00:22:43.120 wrong now

00:22:44.180 to apologize

00:22:44.800 yes

00:22:45.180 if you apologize

00:22:46.980 now

00:22:47.380 you are putting

00:22:49.160 your neck

00:22:49.560 in the guillotine

00:22:50.100 you saw it

00:22:51.260 with Chris Cuomo

00:22:51.740 did you see

00:22:52.200 Chris Cuomo

00:22:52.800 did this insane

00:22:53.640 monologue

00:22:54.180 objective

00:22:55.260 journalist

00:22:56.420 Chris Cuomo

00:22:57.260 block of wood

00:22:58.200 less smart

00:22:59.060 of the Cuomo

00:22:59.480 brothers

00:22:59.780 which is an

00:23:00.220 amazing statement

00:23:01.060 and Chris Cuomo

00:23:02.140 did a monologue

00:23:03.280 on CNN

00:23:03.740 where he said

00:23:04.500 Tucker Carlson

00:23:05.120 is a coward

00:23:05.600 how do I know

00:23:06.220 he's a coward

00:23:06.620 because he's not

00:23:07.380 apologizing for these

00:23:08.220 statements

00:23:08.520 and he's also

00:23:09.160 not going on

00:23:09.680 his show tonight

00:23:10.200 and saying the

00:23:10.920 same statements

00:23:11.480 over again

00:23:12.040 it's like okay

00:23:12.820 in that one sentence

00:23:14.240 you have set up

00:23:15.180 a catch 22

00:23:15.680 for him

00:23:16.120 which is if he

00:23:16.940 apologizes

00:23:17.600 then you're going

00:23:18.220 to say ah

00:23:18.720 you see he knows

00:23:19.460 that he was wrong

00:23:20.120 and that's why

00:23:20.760 he should be

00:23:21.100 boycotted

00:23:21.420 because he's

00:23:21.780 that kind of

00:23:22.440 person

00:23:22.700 he should never

00:23:23.380 have said it

00:23:23.720 in the first place

00:23:24.180 and even he

00:23:24.660 acknowledges that

00:23:25.440 and if he doesn't

00:23:26.060 apologize

00:23:26.380 you say well

00:23:26.780 he's not apologizing

00:23:27.560 because he still

00:23:27.940 agrees with it

00:23:28.520 so why doesn't

00:23:29.140 he just double

00:23:29.540 down on it today

00:23:30.220 you know but

00:23:31.080 beyond this

00:23:32.020 and this is

00:23:32.860 something that

00:23:33.400 really bothers me

00:23:34.200 is the entire

00:23:34.760 definition of

00:23:36.260 the offense

00:23:36.980 usually it's racism

00:23:39.180 they come after us

00:23:39.940 for

00:23:40.140 and the entire

00:23:41.400 definition of racism

00:23:42.360 has now become

00:23:43.200 any glitch

00:23:43.980 any tribal glitch

00:23:45.160 in the human mind

00:23:46.040 that causes you

00:23:47.040 to behave in a

00:23:47.720 certain way

00:23:48.240 when for instance

00:23:49.500 a black guy

00:23:50.100 gets on an elevator

00:23:50.960 if you get in a car

00:23:52.900 a near side swipe

00:23:54.740 of the car

00:23:55.240 and you see the

00:23:56.000 guy in the car

00:23:56.800 is black

00:23:57.580 or Jewish

00:23:58.300 or female

00:23:59.040 you're very likely

00:24:00.600 to shout

00:24:01.040 you stupid

00:24:01.860 blank

00:24:02.420 whatever the kind

00:24:03.460 of person it is

00:24:04.140 I'm sorry

00:24:04.880 that's not racism

00:24:06.040 that's a little

00:24:06.560 glitch in the human

00:24:07.360 person

00:24:07.760 that we can overcome

00:24:08.740 by goodwill

00:24:09.540 you know it's not

00:24:10.460 it is not racism

00:24:11.640 to sort of think

00:24:12.440 like oh

00:24:13.240 you know I grew up

00:24:14.480 with people who

00:24:15.000 look like you

00:24:15.640 I kind of feel

00:24:16.620 more comfortable

00:24:17.140 with that

00:24:17.540 you can overcome

00:24:18.500 all those things

00:24:19.600 and what the left

00:24:20.240 does is it takes

00:24:20.980 these human foibles

00:24:21.980 which we all have

00:24:23.040 and we all say

00:24:23.880 and it makes

00:24:25.220 turns them into

00:24:26.200 an aspect of your

00:24:27.300 philosophy

00:24:27.720 which is not true

00:24:29.020 racism is a philosophy

00:24:30.340 I know racist people

00:24:31.520 I know people

00:24:32.120 who believe

00:24:32.660 that other people

00:24:33.320 are inferior to them

00:24:34.160 because of the way

00:24:34.900 they were born

00:24:35.780 that is true racism

00:24:38.280 I oppose it

00:24:39.020 with all my soul

00:24:39.960 I truly do

00:24:40.660 you guys know I do

00:24:42.120 you've heard me

00:24:42.640 rant about it

00:24:43.560 but it's not the same

00:24:44.940 thing as the fact

00:24:45.680 that we're all human

00:24:46.280 beings and we have

00:24:47.000 these flaws

00:24:47.520 and we have these

00:24:47.940 little tribal glitches

00:24:48.980 and to call people

00:24:49.880 out for that

00:24:50.300 the left has elevated

00:24:51.320 perfection

00:24:51.920 as the only

00:24:52.920 acceptable standard

00:24:53.760 for behavior

00:24:54.180 and it has to be

00:24:55.280 perfect perfection

00:24:56.380 because if you were

00:24:57.420 ever imperfect

00:24:58.260 this is like

00:24:59.600 you can't even

00:25:00.220 tell a story

00:25:01.040 about how you were

00:25:01.660 once imperfect

00:25:02.400 as a cautionary tale

00:25:03.980 as the Liam Neeson

00:25:04.440 thing

00:25:04.780 and what they do

00:25:07.660 is they take

00:25:08.080 one instance

00:25:08.780 what you're talking

00:25:09.640 about

00:25:09.880 and I'll disagree

00:25:11.500 with you to the extent

00:25:12.080 that I think

00:25:12.400 that if you're in the car

00:25:13.100 and somebody

00:25:13.660 side swipes you

00:25:14.420 and it's a woman

00:25:15.600 and you just start

00:25:16.820 shouting at her

00:25:17.440 as a woman

00:25:18.100 that that would be

00:25:19.160 a sexist incident

00:25:19.980 but that does not

00:25:20.460 mean that you are

00:25:21.020 a sexist

00:25:21.500 I think we're

00:25:23.520 saying the same

00:25:23.900 thing

00:25:24.080 I'm trying to

00:25:25.060 hone in a little

00:25:25.660 more precisely

00:25:26.160 a racist moment

00:25:28.520 does not make you

00:25:29.440 a racist for your

00:25:30.300 entire life

00:25:30.900 because all we are

00:25:31.820 as human beings

00:25:32.420 are a series of

00:25:33.700 moments

00:25:34.060 that's all we are

00:25:35.020 and then the way

00:25:35.820 we judge your character

00:25:36.600 is by weighing up

00:25:38.040 the totality of

00:25:39.060 those moments

00:25:39.620 and your viewpoint

00:25:40.640 and that's how we

00:25:41.420 decide whether you're

00:25:41.940 a good person

00:25:42.400 whether you're a

00:25:42.780 racist or not

00:25:43.420 whether you're

00:25:43.800 somebody who we

00:25:44.300 should trust

00:25:44.720 or not

00:25:45.160 there's no one

00:25:46.620 who's perfect

00:25:47.040 on this earth

00:25:47.460 and what we have

00:25:48.520 decided is that

00:25:49.120 we are going to

00:25:49.540 take one instance

00:25:50.700 one moment

00:25:51.380 where you did

00:25:52.160 a wrong thing

00:25:52.700 and we will use

00:25:53.440 that as the key

00:25:54.920 moment that is the

00:25:56.740 flashpoint that shows

00:25:57.560 your behavior

00:25:57.940 the left does this

00:25:58.640 about America by the

00:25:59.620 way this is their

00:26:00.000 favorite thing to do

00:26:00.560 I was ranting about

00:26:02.040 this on my show

00:26:03.240 I think yesterday

00:26:04.260 it was really terrible

00:26:05.780 there was a young man

00:26:06.760 named Victor

00:26:07.160 I think it was Victor

00:26:07.760 McElhaney

00:26:08.180 and he was a young

00:26:10.040 black man who was

00:26:11.220 shot to death

00:26:11.840 near USC

00:26:12.940 just last week

00:26:14.000 and his mother

00:26:15.260 is a city councilwoman

00:26:16.740 in Oakland

00:26:17.540 and the reason

00:26:18.320 that this hit my

00:26:19.100 radar is because

00:26:19.720 somebody emailed me

00:26:20.340 and said this is a

00:26:20.860 person who asked you

00:26:21.420 a question at USC

00:26:22.240 at your appearance

00:26:23.160 just a couple of

00:26:24.380 months ago

00:26:24.760 and I remembered the

00:26:26.040 kid he's 21

00:26:27.220 and he was really

00:26:28.760 nice cordial

00:26:29.740 he disagreed with me

00:26:30.840 but it was really

00:26:31.320 cordial

00:26:31.700 it was really warm

00:26:32.440 hearted and really

00:26:33.120 good

00:26:33.340 and it didn't make

00:26:34.680 the national news

00:26:35.420 for more than a

00:26:35.920 blip

00:26:36.060 it didn't because

00:26:36.880 he was killed by

00:26:37.700 people who were

00:26:39.720 killing him as a

00:26:41.000 part of a robbery

00:26:41.540 it was just a criminal

00:26:42.360 act in a high crime

00:26:43.620 neighborhood near USC

00:26:44.660 and so this doesn't

00:26:45.520 make the national news

00:26:46.360 if he'd been killed

00:26:47.200 by a white cop

00:26:47.880 then it makes

00:26:48.280 the national news

00:26:48.900 and I connected

00:26:50.180 this to the fact

00:26:51.140 that there was

00:26:51.440 this long article

00:26:52.520 in the New York

00:26:52.980 Times Magazine

00:26:53.640 about what they

00:26:54.780 called the tragedy

00:26:55.320 of Baltimore

00:26:55.800 where they're

00:26:56.100 talking about

00:26:56.500 how Baltimore

00:26:56.880 has completely

00:26:57.440 fallen apart

00:26:58.040 and ever since

00:26:58.760 Freddie Gray

00:26:59.180 particularly

00:26:59.660 the murder rate

00:27:00.340 has skyrocketed

00:27:01.640 because the police

00:27:02.320 have just stopped

00:27:02.740 policing

00:27:03.060 because they don't

00:27:03.640 want to be held

00:27:04.520 up on all of

00:27:06.020 the every time

00:27:07.600 they go out there

00:27:08.040 there's 10 people

00:27:08.640 with cameras

00:27:09.100 who are attempting

00:27:09.580 to get them fired

00:27:10.200 to ruin their life

00:27:10.700 and put them in jail

00:27:11.280 so they've just

00:27:11.920 stopped policing

00:27:12.400 so the murder rates

00:27:12.980 have risen in

00:27:14.140 Baltimore

00:27:14.480 what the left

00:27:15.640 likes to do

00:27:16.400 is pick instances

00:27:17.460 that reinforce

00:27:18.180 a narrative

00:27:18.580 that they have

00:27:18.980 already pre-written

00:27:19.720 that's what's

00:27:20.360 happening with Tucker

00:27:20.940 that's what happens

00:27:22.260 with people like me

00:27:23.400 or Rush

00:27:23.940 or Mark Levin

00:27:24.520 or anybody who

00:27:25.280 achieves any level

00:27:26.100 of prominence

00:27:26.500 in the conservative

00:27:26.940 movement

00:27:27.280 and it's what the

00:27:27.960 left does with America

00:27:28.700 instead of looking

00:27:29.540 at the broad trend

00:27:30.200 of where is crime

00:27:30.880 happening

00:27:31.200 and why is it

00:27:31.700 happening

00:27:32.000 by the way

00:27:32.640 it's happening

00:27:33.220 in areas where

00:27:33.800 there is high level

00:27:34.460 of single motherhood

00:27:35.260 not enough men

00:27:35.800 in the community

00:27:36.240 and not enough police

00:27:37.060 that is the answer

00:27:37.960 that's where all crime

00:27:38.760 is happening

00:27:39.140 and that's not a racial

00:27:40.480 thing

00:27:40.680 that's true

00:27:40.940 in white communities

00:27:41.520 too

00:27:41.740 instead of looking

00:27:44.480 an incident

00:27:45.460 that they think

00:27:46.060 reinforces

00:27:46.680 the true narrative

00:27:47.760 that the real problem

00:27:48.920 in America

00:27:49.260 is racism

00:27:49.880 they'll feature it

00:27:50.920 for months

00:27:51.500 on TV

00:27:52.360 then there's a riot

00:27:53.360 about the false

00:27:54.420 narrative

00:27:54.980 and then they say

00:27:56.100 well that riot

00:27:56.940 is proof positive

00:27:57.780 that our narrative

00:27:58.460 was true in the first place

00:27:59.180 you know what it is

00:27:59.760 too

00:27:59.960 especially on this point

00:28:01.580 of these incidents

00:28:02.480 these series of incidents

00:28:03.460 these series of actions

00:28:04.500 the way it works

00:28:05.560 we're all guilty of it

00:28:06.480 the left takes it

00:28:07.120 to an extreme

00:28:07.780 is we judge others

00:28:09.160 by their actions

00:28:10.000 we judge ourselves

00:28:11.240 by our intentions

00:28:12.360 and so Andrew

00:28:13.860 Coruscant

00:28:14.840 the head of

00:28:15.500 Media Matters

00:28:16.300 he had these

00:28:17.160 blog posts unearthed

00:28:18.580 from 2005

00:28:19.400 around the same time

00:28:21.000 that Tucker was going

00:28:21.740 on Bubba the Love Sponge

00:28:22.640 and they were

00:28:24.000 degrading and mocking

00:28:25.800 transgender people

00:28:27.300 then called transvestites

00:28:28.880 degrading Japanese women

00:28:30.560 who were sexually abused

00:28:31.960 degrading Bangladeshis

00:28:33.840 Jews

00:28:34.440 Jews

00:28:34.840 the Jews as well

00:28:36.020 of course

00:28:36.540 the Jews always

00:28:37.080 I mean

00:28:37.280 that's just the end

00:28:38.140 that's just the end

00:28:38.900 just throw in the Jews

00:28:39.440 right

00:28:39.640 and all of these people

00:28:41.420 but they'll of course

00:28:43.100 not go after him for it

00:28:44.120 first of all

00:28:44.560 because Media Matters

00:28:45.920 itself is a bad faith

00:28:46.760 organization

00:28:47.320 but also because

00:28:48.260 the left judges itself

00:28:49.600 on its intentions

00:28:50.820 solely on its intentions

00:28:51.860 when they say vile things

00:28:53.580 about Sarah Palin

00:28:54.580 vile things about

00:28:55.660 Nikki Haley

00:28:56.140 whoever

00:28:56.580 they can't be misogynists

00:28:58.300 because they support abortion

00:28:59.580 they have wonderful

00:29:00.900 intentions for women

00:29:01.840 they're feminists

00:29:02.740 deep deep down

00:29:03.560 and us

00:29:04.080 one action

00:29:05.180 one little incident

00:29:06.300 one guy yelling at a car

00:29:07.480 who sideswiped him

00:29:08.680 you are dead

00:29:09.740 you're wicked

00:29:10.340 you're evil

00:29:10.860 you're bound to perdition

00:29:11.920 I think we can all agree

00:29:13.240 that if you're going to

00:29:13.860 boycott Tucker Carlson

00:29:14.960 it should be over that

00:29:16.180 Luddite crap he said

00:29:17.300 about stopping

00:29:18.500 self-driving vehicles

00:29:19.960 get rid of that nonsense

00:29:21.880 I do want to say

00:29:23.260 in the interest of disclosure

00:29:24.540 three of the four of us

00:29:26.320 once worked for an organization

00:29:27.480 that Ben and I

00:29:29.220 started together

00:29:30.140 called Truth Revolt

00:29:31.040 and our premise was

00:29:32.220 to be a right wing

00:29:33.480 sort of answer

00:29:34.560 to media matters

00:29:35.340 and we did successfully lead

00:29:37.280 a few actions

00:29:38.880 against a few prominent

00:29:40.620 left wing people

00:29:41.220 who said

00:29:41.560 not jokes

00:29:42.700 they said some

00:29:43.340 legitimately horrible things

00:29:44.960 Martin Bashir talked about

00:29:46.000 excreting into

00:29:47.480 Sarah Palin's mouth

00:29:48.380 correct

00:29:48.720 but there was nothing

00:29:49.960 disingenuous about

00:29:51.300 Truth Revolt

00:29:51.900 no

00:29:52.280 it was so honest

00:29:53.120 we had a mission statement

00:29:54.320 and our mission statement was

00:29:55.680 this is a vile

00:29:56.940 horrible tactic

00:29:57.740 that has no place

00:29:58.680 in a free

00:29:59.160 in a free society

00:30:00.800 but

00:30:01.820 the only thing

00:30:02.780 more immoral

00:30:03.760 than doing this action

00:30:05.060 is allowing this action

00:30:06.600 to continually be done

00:30:07.720 to one side

00:30:08.640 with absolutely no answer

00:30:10.660 and so Ben and I

00:30:11.540 had this premise

00:30:12.040 called mutually assured destruction

00:30:13.300 which was

00:30:14.180 when the left stops doing this

00:30:15.860 we'll stop doing it

00:30:16.680 until the left stops doing this

00:30:18.220 they have to also know

00:30:19.680 what it feels like

00:30:20.500 to lose your advertising base

00:30:21.920 and we

00:30:22.620 we pursued that

00:30:23.880 for a short amount of time

00:30:25.500 and then

00:30:25.820 and it was successful

00:30:26.460 and this is the thing

00:30:27.380 that I think that

00:30:28.000 advertisers need to start

00:30:29.220 understanding Truth

00:30:29.920 is that all this crap

00:30:31.200 is AstroTurf

00:30:31.840 it is absolutely AstroTurf

00:30:33.340 that's right

00:30:33.820 there have been good studies

00:30:35.420 on the effectiveness

00:30:36.280 of boycotts

00:30:37.880 boycotts are

00:30:38.680 almost never effective

00:30:40.120 like it's almost impossible

00:30:41.160 to name an effective boycott

00:30:42.560 you remember when they tried

00:30:43.380 to boycott Chick-fil-A

00:30:44.200 and Chick-fil-A stock went up

00:30:45.320 it's a great example

00:30:46.240 every single time

00:30:47.320 there's an attempted boycott

00:30:48.260 Nike stock went up

00:30:49.360 when they put Colin Kaepernick

00:30:50.680 this is correct

00:30:51.260 anytime you piss people off

00:30:52.560 and they're in the headlines more

00:30:53.580 the truth is that

00:30:54.800 the sales tend to go up

00:30:55.640 because all earned publicity

00:30:56.860 is still publicity

00:30:57.520 the Wall Street Journal

00:30:58.380 did a piece about

00:30:58.980 the University of Wyoming

00:31:00.040 where they had their thing

00:31:01.200 there should be more cowboys

00:31:02.320 the world needs more cowboys

00:31:03.420 and of course the faculty

00:31:04.800 came in and said

00:31:05.420 oh this is eliminationist

00:31:06.960 and heterosexist

00:31:08.220 and all this stuff

00:31:08.860 and they told them

00:31:09.620 to go pound sand

00:31:10.460 they made thousands of dollars

00:31:12.260 their applications went up

00:31:14.420 it's like stand up

00:31:15.360 to these people

00:31:15.880 and you win

00:31:16.280 the reason I mention this

00:31:17.340 is because since we know

00:31:18.340 this from the inside

00:31:19.320 since we actually did

00:31:19.860 this operationally

00:31:20.620 it's not hard to AstroTurf

00:31:22.080 this stuff

00:31:22.400 people assume that

00:31:23.220 Media Matters has this

00:31:24.000 vast crowd of people

00:31:25.080 who are doing things

00:31:25.640 they got like five people

00:31:26.720 to show up for this protest

00:31:27.700 and that's all it takes

00:31:28.720 by the way

00:31:29.120 if advertisers don't actually

00:31:30.900 sit there for 40 minutes

00:31:32.080 and think to themselves

00:31:33.040 guys is this real

00:31:34.540 is this like an actual thing

00:31:35.780 because here is the truth

00:31:37.080 of the thing

00:31:37.600 okay when we did it

00:31:38.680 to MSNBC

00:31:39.420 we did it

00:31:39.820 went after a couple

00:31:40.380 of their advertisers

00:31:41.020 we got a couple advertisers

00:31:41.940 to pull from Martin Bashir

00:31:42.820 and Martin Bashir

00:31:43.280 ended up losing his show

00:31:44.140 we had 80 activists

00:31:45.860 I kid you not

00:31:46.520 80 activists

00:31:47.280 we send them an email

00:31:48.280 and it said

00:31:49.060 here's the number

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00:31:51.340 at MSNBC

00:31:52.480 here's the customer service line

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00:31:54.460 call them up

00:31:55.160 and tell them you're angry

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00:31:56.760 on Martin Bashir

00:31:57.460 within two days

00:31:58.260 Martin Bashir's show

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00:31:59.340 okay that was not

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00:32:03.740 that was us

00:32:04.460 and again

00:32:05.240 it's a bad tactic

00:32:06.100 and we said openly

00:32:07.140 it's a bad tactic

00:32:07.980 we said you know what

00:32:09.360 you know what would be great

00:32:10.520 is if we didn't have

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00:32:11.900 so how about this

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00:32:16.980 and that's that

00:32:18.540 you shop wherever you want

00:32:19.540 if you don't

00:32:20.240 you know what the actual

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00:32:22.180 if you don't like Tucker's show

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00:32:27.980 do you think a single

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00:32:32.260 of Tucker Carlson

00:32:32.880 not a chance in the world

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00:34:18.060 Alicia Krause

00:34:21.440 we're checking in

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00:34:23.360 how are y'all

00:34:26.100 we can't see you

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00:34:28.720 no happy to be here

00:34:29.960 you know

00:34:30.360 where are you

00:34:31.700 well I'm on backstage

00:34:34.200 where women are

00:34:35.280 either prostitutes

00:34:36.280 or barefoot and

00:34:37.140 pregnant in the kitchen

00:34:37.880 which one are you

00:34:39.680 are you actually

00:34:44.540 barefoot and

00:34:45.460 actually pregnant

00:34:46.140 and actually in the

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00:34:47.560 yeah

00:34:47.940 yeah

00:34:48.560 that's

00:34:49.080 wow

00:34:50.140 I love this

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00:34:51.380 I mean

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00:35:03.300 down here

00:35:03.880 at least I'm not

00:35:04.440 in Michael Knowles'

00:35:05.160 broom closet anymore

00:35:06.120 but I will be down

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00:35:33.340 can't smoke

00:35:33.820 around Alicia

00:35:34.460 that's true

00:35:35.500 so say the

00:35:36.340 doctors

00:35:36.800 is that why

00:35:38.720 I was sent

00:35:39.160 down a whole

00:35:39.580 floor

00:35:40.000 have we

00:35:41.140 officially

00:35:41.540 become the

00:35:42.060 most conservative

00:35:42.720 out in America

00:35:43.640 Alicia do we have

00:35:45.800 any questions

00:35:46.240 I do actually

00:35:47.160 one comes from

00:35:47.740 William he wants

00:35:48.380 to know what's

00:35:48.760 the constitutional

00:35:49.440 definition of a

00:35:50.300 natural born citizen

00:35:51.640 if a person is born

00:35:53.000 in the U.S. to two

00:35:54.040 illegal aliens can that

00:35:55.340 person go on to be

00:35:56.460 president

00:35:56.900 Michael Knowles

00:35:58.160 well because I'm the

00:35:59.340 one who went to

00:35:59.820 Harvard Law here

00:36:00.500 I'll certainly be happy

00:36:01.640 to describe this one

00:36:02.640 there actually is

00:36:03.660 correct me when I

00:36:04.340 inevitably get something

00:36:05.180 wrong there is a

00:36:06.080 long-standing debate

00:36:06.840 over the exact meaning

00:36:07.880 of natural born citizen

00:36:09.000 it seems to me

00:36:10.280 that if you are born

00:36:11.980 to the child

00:36:12.780 or if you are the

00:36:13.800 child of an

00:36:14.820 American citizen

00:36:15.480 you are a natural

00:36:16.340 born citizen

00:36:16.960 at the time of

00:36:17.540 your birth

00:36:17.940 you are an

00:36:18.780 American citizen

00:36:19.480 so the whole

00:36:20.160 birther conspiracy

00:36:21.120 was a little bit

00:36:22.160 superfluous

00:36:22.820 because Barack Obama

00:36:24.080 even if he were

00:36:24.680 born on Mars

00:36:25.340 would have been

00:36:25.780 a natural born

00:36:26.500 citizen

00:36:26.920 this seems to be

00:36:28.040 in dispute

00:36:28.620 in any case

00:36:29.600 but if you're

00:36:30.180 born to illegal

00:36:30.920 aliens here in

00:36:31.900 America

00:36:32.260 you are also

00:36:33.400 a natural born

00:36:34.440 citizen

00:36:34.840 since at least

00:36:36.120 that case in

00:36:36.820 what 1898

00:36:37.880 yeah Wong

00:36:38.620 Kimar

00:36:38.960 that's right

00:36:39.880 the Wong case

00:36:40.600 after that

00:36:42.020 it seems to be

00:36:42.700 resolved that you

00:36:43.380 are a natural

00:36:43.880 born citizen

00:36:44.400 there's been

00:36:44.940 some discussion

00:36:45.500 of repealing

00:36:46.180 birthright citizenship

00:36:47.240 or clarifying

00:36:48.240 birthright citizenship

00:36:49.300 we've had that

00:36:49.880 since 2016

00:36:50.660 but the question

00:36:51.640 as far as I can tell

00:36:52.620 remains somewhat

00:36:54.000 unresolved

00:36:54.540 that's right

00:36:54.900 there's one phrase

00:36:55.920 in the 14th amendment

00:36:56.980 specifically

00:36:57.660 that is read

00:36:59.260 to maybe exclude

00:37:00.680 birthright citizenship

00:37:01.460 the truth is

00:37:02.740 that in the British

00:37:03.160 Empire

00:37:03.460 the idea of birthright

00:37:04.160 citizenship

00:37:04.540 was sort of tradition

00:37:05.340 so going back

00:37:06.160 to Blackstone

00:37:06.840 the notion

00:37:08.160 that of natural

00:37:09.020 born citizenship

00:37:09.720 is fairly well

00:37:11.300 established

00:37:11.660 in Anglo-American

00:37:12.240 law

00:37:12.540 the sort of

00:37:14.480 countervailing

00:37:15.040 viewpoint

00:37:15.420 is that in the

00:37:15.860 14th amendment

00:37:16.400 it says that

00:37:16.820 if you're born

00:37:17.240 in the United States

00:37:17.900 and subject to

00:37:18.600 the jurisdiction

00:37:19.060 thereof

00:37:19.500 so it's the phrase

00:37:20.180 subject to the

00:37:20.780 jurisdiction

00:37:21.180 thereof

00:37:21.920 that comes up

00:37:22.820 in these legal

00:37:23.320 debates

00:37:23.600 because the

00:37:24.340 question is

00:37:24.860 if you are a

00:37:25.540 citizen of another

00:37:26.040 country

00:37:26.420 like let's say

00:37:27.960 you're a Mexican

00:37:28.320 citizen

00:37:28.680 and you commit a

00:37:29.940 crime in the

00:37:30.280 United States

00:37:30.780 well then they have

00:37:31.400 to contact the

00:37:32.080 consulate of Mexico

00:37:33.540 because you are a

00:37:34.140 Mexican citizen

00:37:34.900 your child

00:37:35.980 presumably

00:37:36.520 is not subject

00:37:37.400 you haven't

00:37:37.940 accepted American

00:37:38.560 law upon yourself

00:37:39.360 so you are not

00:37:39.980 subject to the

00:37:40.540 jurisdiction

00:37:40.980 of American

00:37:41.980 law

00:37:42.400 neither is your

00:37:43.300 child

00:37:43.520 that at least

00:37:43.960 is the argument

00:37:44.460 against birthright

00:37:45.360 citizenship

00:37:45.960 you know I think

00:37:47.240 that it's an

00:37:47.980 open debate

00:37:49.200 it's a live

00:37:50.180 debate

00:37:50.540 it's interesting

00:37:51.580 to remember

00:37:52.020 that the subject

00:37:53.000 of the jurisdiction

00:37:53.620 thereof

00:37:54.260 came into play

00:37:55.900 when John McCain

00:37:56.760 was seeking

00:37:57.320 the nomination

00:37:58.660 to be president

00:37:59.300 because he was

00:38:00.560 born in Panama

00:38:01.560 so two American

00:38:03.280 parents

00:38:03.760 so born

00:38:05.100 as citizen

00:38:05.660 of the United

00:38:06.100 States

00:38:06.500 or born

00:38:07.220 with the opportunity

00:38:08.580 to be a citizen

00:38:09.300 of the United

00:38:09.700 States

00:38:09.940 the question

00:38:10.660 was was Panama

00:38:11.520 at that time

00:38:12.380 was he subject

00:38:13.620 to the jurisdiction

00:38:14.340 that's exactly

00:38:15.160 right

00:38:15.380 and the way

00:38:16.720 that the courts

00:38:17.180 traditionally have

00:38:17.800 interpreted subject

00:38:18.540 to the jurisdiction

00:38:19.140 thereof

00:38:19.540 would be to exclude

00:38:20.940 for example

00:38:21.640 foreign ministers

00:38:22.360 so if you're a

00:38:23.240 foreign minister

00:38:23.700 from Mexico

00:38:24.700 and you have a

00:38:25.420 kid in the United

00:38:25.800 States

00:38:26.020 your kid is not

00:38:26.500 necessarily a

00:38:27.560 subject of the

00:38:28.920 United States

00:38:29.440 because you're

00:38:29.940 a foreign minister

00:38:30.580 and therefore

00:38:31.400 you're not subject

00:38:32.100 to the jurisdiction

00:38:32.680 of the American

00:38:33.260 and this is the

00:38:33.960 part that does

00:38:34.520 pain me

00:38:34.920 as someone who

00:38:35.700 thinks

00:38:36.040 I think it's

00:38:37.040 probably we all

00:38:37.600 do the birthright

00:38:38.180 citizenship has

00:38:38.800 been abused

00:38:39.460 it's created

00:38:40.060 very bad incentives

00:38:40.920 at the southern

00:38:41.400 border

00:38:41.740 is it does seem

00:38:43.020 explicitly

00:38:43.700 to take out

00:38:44.860 diplomats

00:38:45.440 to take out

00:38:46.100 the children of

00:38:46.680 diplomats

00:38:47.120 or whatever

00:38:47.520 but other people

00:38:48.800 even if you're

00:38:49.260 a foreign national

00:38:49.900 in this country

00:38:50.540 perhaps you are

00:38:51.960 subject to the

00:38:52.720 jurisdiction

00:38:53.140 yeah it's not

00:38:53.900 supremely clear

00:38:54.540 is the truth of it

00:38:55.200 but it's also

00:38:55.920 not a precedent

00:38:56.760 that's going to

00:38:57.280 change anytime soon

00:38:58.060 so

00:38:58.280 someone like me

00:38:58.980 who's immaculately

00:38:59.720 conceived

00:39:00.180 is that naturally

00:39:00.840 born

00:39:01.140 that's the question

00:39:01.940 this raises

00:39:03.240 not just political

00:39:03.960 but theological

00:39:04.520 questions

00:39:05.160 it's also

00:39:05.920 interesting to

00:39:06.360 think about it

00:39:06.740 from the point

00:39:07.120 of view of the

00:39:07.720 framers of the

00:39:08.240 constitution at the

00:39:08.960 time that they

00:39:09.360 were conceptualizing

00:39:10.620 these ideas that

00:39:12.000 no person in

00:39:13.760 America was a

00:39:14.440 natural born

00:39:15.160 citizen of the

00:39:16.520 United States

00:39:16.780 so they were

00:39:18.540 they were

00:39:18.900 specifically thinking

00:39:19.780 about loyalties

00:39:20.560 right they were

00:39:21.000 thinking about

00:39:21.560 where your

00:39:22.140 where your

00:39:23.660 your loyalty would

00:39:24.740 be to what

00:39:25.160 sovereignty would

00:39:25.760 your loyalty be

00:39:26.280 they didn't want

00:39:26.840 someone to be

00:39:27.340 elected to be

00:39:28.360 president of the

00:39:28.940 United States

00:39:29.440 who had a

00:39:29.900 divided

00:39:30.280 a divided

00:39:31.900 sense of

00:39:32.420 national

00:39:32.920 allegiance

00:39:33.360 and I

00:39:35.460 think that

00:39:35.840 that's at the

00:39:37.540 very least

00:39:37.980 the spirit of

00:39:38.700 it which is

00:39:39.060 why I think

00:39:39.580 that you

00:39:40.380 know

00:39:40.540 probably

00:39:41.640 if a

00:39:43.260 an American

00:39:44.060 diplomat

00:39:44.500 if John Quincy

00:39:45.300 Adams had been

00:39:45.880 born in France

00:39:46.780 or been born

00:39:47.320 in the

00:39:47.560 Netherlands

00:39:47.840 he was not

00:39:48.760 I still

00:39:51.120 think that

00:39:51.460 that would

00:39:52.400 not have

00:39:52.840 at the

00:39:53.160 time

00:39:53.460 at their

00:39:53.860 time

00:39:54.100 they would

00:39:54.360 not have

00:39:54.620 thought of

00:39:54.940 him as

00:39:55.220 not eligible

00:39:56.260 to become

00:39:56.720 president

00:39:57.060 he was

00:39:57.800 it took a

00:39:58.660 long time

00:39:58.980 to travel

00:39:59.360 back then

00:39:59.900 he was

00:40:00.460 born over

00:40:00.840 there because

00:40:01.300 his father

00:40:01.700 was there

00:40:02.020 in service

00:40:02.480 of the

00:40:02.800 country

00:40:03.140 so they

00:40:04.340 would have

00:40:04.580 seen

00:40:04.840 that child

00:40:06.180 if you want

00:40:06.380 to read more

00:40:06.700 about the

00:40:06.980 debate

00:40:07.180 John Yu

00:40:07.640 takes one

00:40:08.100 side of

00:40:08.420 the debate

00:40:08.700 in favor

00:40:09.080 of natural

00:40:09.480 born

00:40:09.700 citizenship

00:40:10.160 and Mark

00:40:11.320 Krikorian

00:40:11.720 the folks

00:40:12.100 at the

00:40:12.820 Center for

00:40:13.100 Immigration

00:40:13.380 Studies

00:40:13.840 John Eastman

00:40:15.520 they tend

00:40:15.820 to take

00:40:16.040 the other

00:40:16.260 side of

00:40:16.540 the debate

00:40:16.780 interesting

00:40:17.120 Alicia

00:40:18.000 question

00:40:19.480 I just want

00:40:24.160 to know

00:40:24.380 can Dan

00:40:24.840 Crenshaw

00:40:25.180 run for

00:40:25.600 president

00:40:25.940 because he

00:40:26.540 wasn't born

00:40:27.020 on American

00:40:27.580 soil

00:40:27.980 that's the

00:40:28.420 most important

00:40:29.040 thing

00:40:29.380 oh interesting

00:40:29.880 where was Dan

00:40:30.340 Crenshaw

00:40:30.640 born

00:40:30.960 I believe

00:40:31.540 on a military

00:40:32.220 base in

00:40:32.700 Germany

00:40:33.000 so military

00:40:33.640 bases are

00:40:34.220 exempt too

00:40:34.800 right

00:40:35.080 I thought he's

00:40:35.540 born in Asgard

00:40:36.620 his birthday is

00:40:39.460 coming up by the

00:40:40.020 way

00:40:40.200 yeah it is

00:40:40.980 I'm never going to

00:40:41.800 forgive him for

00:40:42.420 making me

00:40:42.840 arm wrestle him

00:40:44.540 it was close

00:40:46.800 wasn't it close

00:40:47.540 it was not

00:40:48.960 close

00:40:49.280 it is actually

00:40:52.100 true though

00:40:52.620 that's what was

00:40:53.380 determined in the

00:40:54.020 McCain question

00:40:55.500 is that since he

00:40:56.140 was born

00:40:56.660 basically on a

00:40:57.860 military base

00:40:58.480 he was still

00:40:58.900 in that

00:40:59.160 we should have

00:40:59.700 had him wrestle

00:41:00.120 all four of us

00:41:00.920 we all go flying

00:41:02.800 out the window

00:41:03.160 all right here

00:41:04.280 comes a question

00:41:04.820 from Joe about

00:41:05.540 college education

00:41:06.340 he wants to

00:41:06.780 know for those

00:41:07.240 of us who are

00:41:07.700 majoring in a

00:41:08.340 useless liberal

00:41:09.160 arts major with

00:41:09.980 the intent of

00:41:10.600 entering the

00:41:11.140 academy what do

00:41:12.480 you believe is

00:41:13.440 the best mode

00:41:14.500 by which we

00:41:15.040 can improve it

00:41:15.680 you know I

00:41:16.640 unfortunately I

00:41:17.700 know too much

00:41:18.260 about this but

00:41:18.900 you know ever

00:41:19.460 since 2008

00:41:20.380 people have been

00:41:21.060 talking about the

00:41:21.800 liberal arts

00:41:22.340 collapsing for a

00:41:24.000 long time but

00:41:24.680 ever since 2008

00:41:25.500 the liberal arts

00:41:26.080 have collapsed

00:41:26.740 and there are

00:41:27.500 very few jobs

00:41:28.340 in the liberal

00:41:28.840 arts and if

00:41:30.040 you do get

00:41:30.880 one of them

00:41:31.420 the thing that

00:41:33.360 really has to

00:41:33.940 be changed is

00:41:35.080 you have to

00:41:35.420 understand what

00:41:36.120 it is to teach

00:41:37.040 the liberal arts

00:41:38.180 to teach the

00:41:38.920 liberal arts means

00:41:39.520 to teach first

00:41:40.420 of all the

00:41:40.700 history of the

00:41:42.340 liberal arts

00:41:42.860 for instance

00:41:43.720 literature the

00:41:44.560 history of

00:41:44.960 literature but

00:41:45.500 also to teach

00:41:46.060 what the people

00:41:46.780 who were speaking

00:41:47.780 at the time

00:41:48.460 were trying to

00:41:49.320 say in their

00:41:50.000 moment it's not

00:41:51.080 about telling

00:41:51.600 them how they

00:41:52.820 can be eradicated

00:41:53.860 by me overlaying

00:41:55.160 my philosophy

00:41:55.960 on top of them

00:41:57.040 it is what

00:41:57.540 Plato was trying

00:41:58.320 to communicate

00:41:58.900 what Shakespeare

00:41:59.640 was trying to

00:42:00.320 communicate these

00:42:00.960 are hard things

00:42:01.440 to study and

00:42:02.200 really worth

00:42:02.700 knowing because

00:42:03.440 they make you

00:42:03.840 wiser and they

00:42:04.420 make you more

00:42:05.080 involved in your

00:42:05.720 culture I

00:42:06.240 didn't go to an

00:42:06.860 actual university I

00:42:07.840 went to a junior

00:42:08.480 college and majored

00:42:09.280 in country music

00:42:10.180 and then dropped

00:42:11.660 out that's

00:42:12.340 true I

00:42:12.940 told this story

00:42:13.540 about you

00:42:14.040 did you

00:42:14.460 yeah but

00:42:15.180 but with my

00:42:16.900 limited amount

00:42:18.380 of education

00:42:19.160 that I have

00:42:19.780 I know that

00:42:20.540 the word liberal

00:42:21.400 is associated

00:42:22.080 with liberty

00:42:22.760 and that

00:42:23.900 therefore the

00:42:25.040 liberal arts

00:42:25.740 could be

00:42:26.120 translated literally

00:42:27.020 to mean the

00:42:27.640 freedom arts

00:42:28.240 and that the

00:42:28.880 entire purpose

00:42:29.620 of a liberal

00:42:30.220 education as

00:42:31.420 we understand

00:42:32.080 it in in

00:42:33.120 later days in

00:42:34.220 the West

00:42:34.620 was so that

00:42:35.420 you could learn

00:42:36.200 the art of

00:42:37.280 freedom

00:42:37.560 that you were

00:42:38.240 studying the

00:42:38.840 architecture of

00:42:39.600 the West

00:42:39.940 the philosophical

00:42:41.320 and and

00:42:42.420 liturgical and

00:42:43.620 literary history

00:42:44.640 of the West

00:42:45.260 so that you

00:42:45.980 would understand

00:42:46.860 the art of

00:42:47.720 being free

00:42:48.140 you would

00:42:48.280 understand and

00:42:49.400 earn your

00:42:50.040 freedom that

00:42:50.740 we have

00:42:51.080 you know you

00:42:51.680 almost sound like

00:42:52.260 you have one of

00:42:52.760 those fancy degrees

00:42:53.560 that is actually

00:42:54.240 what the liberal

00:42:54.700 arts are

00:42:55.160 that is the

00:42:55.720 entire purpose

00:42:56.400 of liberal education

00:42:56.960 I just made that up

00:42:57.520 it absolutely

00:42:59.240 seemed true

00:42:59.760 you know people

00:43:00.200 don't even know

00:43:00.860 this and this is

00:43:01.500 why the debate

00:43:02.160 actually matters

00:43:03.220 I think a lot

00:43:03.760 of conservatives

00:43:04.260 want to in our

00:43:05.120 kind of reactionary

00:43:06.120 way we want to

00:43:06.620 say get rid of

00:43:07.320 it we hate it

00:43:08.180 the liberal arts

00:43:09.840 really really

00:43:10.640 matter a free

00:43:11.280 society is not

00:43:12.040 going to remain

00:43:12.460 free for even

00:43:13.260 five seconds

00:43:14.160 if liberal

00:43:15.120 education

00:43:15.760 dissolves

00:43:16.800 and the problem

00:43:18.080 is

00:43:18.380 well it's already

00:43:18.760 dissolved so

00:43:19.320 it's been hollowed

00:43:20.620 out from within

00:43:21.120 game over man

00:43:22.260 you could count

00:43:24.620 on one hand

00:43:25.380 the number of

00:43:26.020 programs in the

00:43:26.800 liberal arts

00:43:27.240 that are still

00:43:27.940 actually carrying

00:43:29.240 on that tradition

00:43:29.820 my new book

00:43:31.080 not to pitch it

00:43:31.940 but the right

00:43:32.480 side of history

00:43:33.060 available right now

00:43:34.080 but not really

00:43:34.680 available until next

00:43:35.460 Tuesday

00:43:35.700 it is kind of

00:43:37.160 a layman's

00:43:37.960 read on

00:43:38.860 western philosophy

00:43:39.520 there are people

00:43:39.960 who have spent

00:43:40.480 generations studying

00:43:41.500 this and know

00:43:41.880 this way the hell

00:43:42.720 better than I do

00:43:43.320 and my very basic

00:43:45.380 gloss which you

00:43:46.180 guys have read

00:43:46.700 it's and it is

00:43:47.780 you know I think

00:43:48.300 it's quite good

00:43:48.800 but it's obviously

00:43:50.000 not to the level

00:43:50.980 of expertise

00:43:51.460 as people have

00:43:52.280 spent their entire

00:43:52.800 like your son

00:43:53.400 spends his entire

00:43:54.020 life studying this

00:43:54.580 stuff he knows

00:43:55.040 this stuff better

00:43:55.500 than I do

00:43:55.900 you know that

00:43:57.020 it has been

00:43:58.100 completely lost

00:43:58.960 to the extent

00:43:59.400 that if I even

00:43:59.900 speak about this

00:44:00.560 there was a

00:44:00.960 I spoke at

00:44:01.640 University of Michigan

00:44:02.180 last night

00:44:02.640 the the history

00:44:03.660 department has not

00:44:04.420 read my book

00:44:04.880 it's not out yet

00:44:05.440 they held a panel

00:44:06.420 called dilettantes

00:44:08.220 in history

00:44:08.700 the power of

00:44:09.560 the enlightenment

00:44:10.120 if you study

00:44:12.960 the enlightenment

00:44:13.440 and all you got

00:44:14.200 from it is

00:44:14.620 it's white people

00:44:15.200 then you don't

00:44:16.500 know what the

00:44:16.820 hell you're

00:44:17.040 talking about

00:44:17.520 and the classics

00:44:18.100 are dead

00:44:18.560 I think

00:44:19.320 I thought that

00:44:19.740 was heavily

00:44:20.100 attended

00:44:20.480 oh yeah

00:44:21.660 there were

00:44:22.180 professors

00:44:22.940 I think they

00:44:26.620 ended up with

00:44:26.960 about 35 people

00:44:27.900 we had by

00:44:28.620 contrast a thousand

00:44:29.380 people who showed

00:44:29.800 up to ours

00:44:30.160 an overflow room

00:44:30.920 with another

00:44:31.260 106,000 people

00:44:32.420 on the waiting

00:44:32.800 list

00:44:33.020 at the University

00:44:33.880 of Michigan

00:44:34.240 so there's some

00:44:34.700 appetite for this

00:44:35.300 stuff but

00:44:35.660 the which shows

00:44:37.060 how badly the

00:44:37.800 universities have

00:44:38.400 botched it

00:44:38.760 because there is

00:44:39.120 appetite for

00:44:40.180 all of this

00:44:40.860 stuff but

00:44:41.200 you know

00:44:42.320 quick note

00:44:43.040 this person is

00:44:43.880 asking they're

00:44:44.320 already in the

00:44:45.120 liberal arts and

00:44:45.740 they intend on

00:44:46.280 teaching

00:44:46.560 so you're

00:44:47.440 actually doing

00:44:48.380 a career path

00:44:48.980 that makes sense

00:44:49.540 I've ripped on

00:44:50.600 the liberal arts

00:44:51.260 as a career path

00:44:52.240 if you don't

00:44:52.660 actually intend

00:44:53.280 on going into

00:44:53.860 the liberal arts

00:44:54.460 because it seems

00:44:55.020 to me that

00:44:55.920 you know

00:44:56.240 this whole college

00:44:56.980 scandal that's

00:44:57.440 happening right now

00:44:57.960 these uber rich

00:44:58.560 parents who are

00:44:59.100 paying for their

00:44:59.560 kids to get

00:45:00.080 into places

00:45:00.520 like Yale

00:45:00.940 there are two

00:45:02.160 questions that

00:45:02.680 deserve to be

00:45:03.120 answered

00:45:03.360 one is

00:45:04.180 why would uber

00:45:05.180 rich people pay

00:45:05.780 for their kids

00:45:06.380 to get into Yale

00:45:07.100 when you could

00:45:07.660 just give your

00:45:08.040 kid the $500,000

00:45:09.360 and just set them

00:45:10.540 up for life

00:45:11.320 in a trust fund

00:45:11.920 or something

00:45:12.160 that's question

00:45:12.960 number one

00:45:13.280 and number two

00:45:13.780 if these kids

00:45:14.700 are really unqualified

00:45:15.500 if they're getting

00:45:16.060 into Yale

00:45:16.480 with 1,200 SATs

00:45:17.900 shouldn't they fail

00:45:18.920 out like in the

00:45:19.900 first year

00:45:20.240 shouldn't they fail

00:45:20.800 out in the first

00:45:21.340 it's very hard

00:45:21.760 to get in

00:45:22.300 but it's very easy

00:45:23.480 to stay in

00:45:24.240 well and this

00:45:24.880 this is the point

00:45:26.540 that I make

00:45:26.900 about about colleges

00:45:27.800 what the public

00:45:29.440 thinks colleges

00:45:30.080 are for is not

00:45:30.680 actually what

00:45:31.100 colleges are for

00:45:31.660 so we all think

00:45:32.280 that it's for

00:45:32.680 developing a skill

00:45:33.720 set and being

00:45:34.340 educated and

00:45:35.080 learning about

00:45:35.720 western civilization

00:45:36.560 bull that is not

00:45:38.340 what colleges are for

00:45:39.160 colleges are for

00:45:39.940 two things in reality

00:45:41.140 unless you are

00:45:41.920 studying in the

00:45:42.860 in the maths

00:45:43.920 or the sciences

00:45:44.640 in which case

00:45:45.260 you're actually

00:45:45.500 learning something

00:45:46.120 it's not about

00:45:47.540 skill set

00:45:48.240 what it is about

00:45:48.980 is two things

00:45:49.560 credentialing

00:45:50.180 and social group

00:45:51.160 that's it

00:45:51.860 that's the only

00:45:52.460 thing college is for

00:45:53.280 that's why all

00:45:53.940 these people

00:45:54.240 there's a third

00:45:54.560 thing that Michael

00:45:55.220 got out of college

00:45:56.100 it was treated

00:45:57.700 with penicillin

00:45:58.460 I count that

00:45:59.900 as social group

00:46:00.460 for Michael

00:46:00.820 I mean he created

00:46:01.840 his own human

00:46:02.440 social group

00:46:03.000 they are his

00:46:04.000 children

00:46:04.320 and one day

00:46:04.880 he'll go back

00:46:05.500 and take responsibility

00:46:06.360 for his past sins

00:46:07.200 well New Haven's

00:46:08.200 very far away

00:46:08.900 I don't know

00:46:09.400 it's a long flight

00:46:10.220 but this is why

00:46:11.860 these rich parents

00:46:12.540 will pay

00:46:12.860 because they want

00:46:13.420 the credential

00:46:13.760 for their kid

00:46:14.280 and the credential

00:46:15.140 matters

00:46:15.480 because it's the

00:46:16.120 imprimatur

00:46:16.500 that you're a member

00:46:17.140 of the elite

00:46:17.520 and they want

00:46:18.320 their kids

00:46:18.820 to be members

00:46:19.220 of this ersatz

00:46:19.860 social fabric

00:46:20.480 so they can go

00:46:20.940 to the alumni

00:46:21.380 dinners

00:46:21.760 and they can

00:46:22.180 know friends

00:46:23.180 who are in

00:46:23.520 very powerful

00:46:24.200 positions

00:46:24.680 and I know this

00:46:25.700 because when I went

00:46:26.360 to a very

00:46:27.180 highfalutin universe

00:46:28.300 when I went to

00:46:28.720 Harvard Law School

00:46:29.220 the very first day

00:46:29.940 I was at Harvard Law School

00:46:31.100 at orientation

00:46:31.740 Elena Kagan

00:46:32.420 who was then

00:46:32.800 the dean of the law school

00:46:33.560 now she's a

00:46:34.020 Supreme Court justice

00:46:34.640 she gets up

00:46:35.540 in front of a class

00:46:36.180 of 500 of us

00:46:37.060 and the first thing

00:46:38.320 she says is

00:46:39.020 you're all worried

00:46:39.940 this is going to be

00:46:40.300 the paper chase

00:46:40.860 it's going to be

00:46:41.140 super competitive

00:46:41.720 you're going to have

00:46:42.300 to really compete

00:46:42.860 for your slot

00:46:43.440 you're going to have

00:46:43.880 to work really hard

00:46:44.620 let me tell you

00:46:45.360 you already won

00:46:46.040 you're in

00:46:46.960 the competition is over

00:46:48.000 you will all have jobs

00:46:48.920 you will be

00:46:49.480 she said

00:46:50.000 you will be running

00:46:50.620 the world

00:46:51.040 the people in this room

00:46:51.940 will be running the world

00:46:52.540 look to your right

00:46:53.000 look to your left

00:46:53.420 these are the people

00:46:53.960 who are going to be

00:46:54.360 running the world

00:46:54.900 and I remember

00:46:55.440 thinking to myself

00:46:56.000 really why

00:46:56.800 why

00:46:57.740 like because we did

00:46:58.440 well on our LSATs

00:46:59.220 that's why we should

00:46:59.920 run the world

00:47:00.340 but the question

00:47:01.420 the question was

00:47:02.180 how to improve this

00:47:03.220 and I mean

00:47:03.500 I think you're absolutely

00:47:04.260 right

00:47:04.540 I agree with everything

00:47:05.220 you're saying

00:47:05.720 but it doesn't have

00:47:06.380 to be that way

00:47:06.980 I mean

00:47:07.380 the way

00:47:07.800 so let me give you

00:47:09.000 my quick solution

00:47:09.560 on how to improve

00:47:10.200 all of this

00:47:10.580 one

00:47:10.880 employers need to

00:47:11.940 stop using

00:47:12.460 universities for

00:47:13.140 credentialing

00:47:13.620 and they need to

00:47:14.000 start taking

00:47:14.380 apprentices directly

00:47:15.240 out of high school

00:47:15.820 to learn how to

00:47:16.400 do a business

00:47:16.840 because most people

00:47:17.600 in America

00:47:18.060 learn to do their

00:47:19.100 job by actually

00:47:19.800 doing their job

00:47:20.560 not by going

00:47:21.300 to some program

00:47:22.140 that taught them

00:47:23.060 philosophy

00:47:23.680 like philosophy

00:47:24.500 majors make a lot

00:47:25.240 of money

00:47:25.520 because they're lawyers

00:47:26.440 right

00:47:27.200 that's why philosophy

00:47:28.080 majors make a lot

00:47:28.720 of money

00:47:28.900 because they're

00:47:29.140 accountants

00:47:29.480 and they're lawyers

00:47:30.000 and they're in

00:47:30.340 marketing

00:47:30.620 and how many of

00:47:32.080 them are philosophy

00:47:32.580 professors

00:47:32.960 three

00:47:33.420 right

00:47:34.120 so when people

00:47:34.520 say philosophy

00:47:35.100 major teaches

00:47:35.840 you something

00:47:36.320 it may teach

00:47:37.360 you something

00:47:37.740 but it's not

00:47:38.280 worth $200,000

00:47:39.240 of something

00:47:40.000 that a degree

00:47:40.640 is worth $200,000

00:47:41.660 because it's a credential

00:47:42.700 but what you learned

00:47:43.740 in your philosophy

00:47:44.360 courses in undergrad

00:47:45.300 is not worth that

00:47:46.300 let me push back

00:47:47.220 on this a little bit

00:47:47.800 I was a terrible

00:47:49.820 student

00:47:50.240 I was an awful

00:47:50.920 student

00:47:51.300 and I really

00:47:51.980 got my education

00:47:52.800 after I left school

00:47:53.760 when I read all the

00:47:54.500 books that I had

00:47:54.980 bought in school

00:47:55.880 but while I was

00:47:56.760 in school

00:47:57.100 I did kind of

00:47:57.720 listen and kind

00:47:58.360 of filtered in

00:47:59.060 and I remember

00:47:59.960 walking down the street

00:48:00.880 and this will sound

00:48:01.360 like the dopiest

00:48:02.040 thing on earth

00:48:02.580 but I remember

00:48:03.500 walking

00:48:04.120 through the campus

00:48:05.240 of the University

00:48:05.760 of California

00:48:06.280 at Berkeley

00:48:06.700 and suddenly thinking

00:48:07.820 oh wait a minute

00:48:08.600 I get it

00:48:09.560 first came Greece

00:48:11.100 then came Rome

00:48:12.480 then came Europe

00:48:13.600 then came us

00:48:14.780 and each one

00:48:15.540 of those things

00:48:16.080 built on the other

00:48:16.860 and reflected on the other

00:48:17.920 and actually was changed

00:48:19.080 by the fact

00:48:19.940 that the other existed

00:48:20.860 and when I saw that

00:48:22.220 that changed everything

00:48:23.380 for me

00:48:23.800 and that to me

00:48:24.940 that's a priceless

00:48:26.200 piece of information

00:48:26.980 I completely disagree

00:48:28.140 when you attended

00:48:28.740 the University of Berkeley

00:48:29.960 in the late 1800s

00:48:31.180 a liberal arts degree

00:48:33.440 was an elite thing

00:48:35.740 to accomplish

00:48:36.300 an inexpensive thing

00:48:38.240 comparatively

00:48:38.980 to accomplish

00:48:40.300 and a valuable thing

00:48:41.300 that required rigor

00:48:42.100 in order to accomplish

00:48:43.040 you can't connect

00:48:45.620 that experience

00:48:46.420 I think one of the

00:48:47.180 big

00:48:47.340 I think one of the

00:48:48.020 major

00:48:48.240 I think one of the

00:48:49.640 major problems

00:48:50.400 with the modern academia

00:48:51.420 is that people

00:48:52.400 send their children there

00:48:53.420 and they send

00:48:54.220 their children there

00:48:54.920 because they hear

00:48:55.540 things like

00:48:56.100 oh American campuses

00:48:57.580 are liberal

00:48:58.060 and they kind of

00:48:58.880 fondly harken back

00:49:00.080 to 25 years ago

00:49:01.600 when they were in school

00:49:02.220 and they're like

00:49:02.560 yes I remember

00:49:03.640 I had that one professor

00:49:04.820 who wore a beanie

00:49:05.660 and that one professor

00:49:07.400 who talked in a black scent

00:49:09.680 even though they were white

00:49:10.640 and you know

00:49:11.620 was one of the early

00:49:13.360 black studies professor

00:49:14.320 and we all knew

00:49:15.520 that they were

00:49:16.060 kind of a dope

00:49:17.000 but they did expose us

00:49:18.340 to some ideas

00:49:18.900 we had never thought of

00:49:19.760 my kid can make it

00:49:21.120 because I made it

00:49:21.900 what they fundamentally

00:49:23.260 don't understand

00:49:24.100 that is not

00:49:25.320 what the university

00:49:25.880 today is

00:49:26.920 if you want to know

00:49:28.120 how to fix academia

00:49:29.860 you don't fix it

00:49:30.860 from the inside

00:49:31.480 you fix it with the government

00:49:32.700 I say that

00:49:33.540 as a conservative

00:49:34.540 who believes that

00:49:35.420 the government

00:49:35.800 isn't the solution

00:49:36.560 to anything

00:49:37.360 but the government

00:49:39.460 created our current

00:49:40.940 university

00:49:41.900 fiasco

00:49:43.340 and they created it

00:49:44.540 when they basically

00:49:45.420 decided

00:49:46.000 that they would fund

00:49:47.440 schools on the basis

00:49:48.320 of square footage

00:49:48.980 how many

00:49:50.180 the square footage

00:49:50.900 of your buildings

00:49:51.560 would determine

00:49:52.680 how much money

00:49:53.440 you actually receive

00:49:54.380 from the federal government

00:49:55.960 and they started

00:49:56.840 this enormous push

00:49:59.160 at the university level

00:50:00.200 to grow the physical

00:50:01.700 footprint of universities

00:50:02.760 to grow the structural

00:50:03.760 footprint of universities

00:50:05.080 and to fill those

00:50:06.420 big buildings

00:50:07.200 with as many people

00:50:07.960 as possible

00:50:08.420 and that's when

00:50:09.220 it became the case

00:50:10.280 that the credential

00:50:11.960 no longer has a value

00:50:13.120 because it's no longer

00:50:14.500 that the elite

00:50:15.240 go to college

00:50:15.880 everyone

00:50:17.240 goes to college

00:50:18.840 college is

00:50:20.000 high school

00:50:20.940 with a quarter million

00:50:21.960 dollar price tag

00:50:22.820 this is your only

00:50:23.960 but why should

00:50:24.680 the government

00:50:25.060 fix that

00:50:25.520 the government

00:50:26.040 fixes it by

00:50:26.880 stopping paying

00:50:28.320 by not doing

00:50:29.660 this is so

00:50:30.220 because the government

00:50:30.820 has to stop

00:50:31.260 I mean I'm a believer

00:50:32.020 that the government

00:50:32.460 should get completely

00:50:33.160 out of the business

00:50:33.700 of college

00:50:34.100 I agree

00:50:34.540 but this is weird

00:50:35.340 if you want to go

00:50:36.220 and study the classics

00:50:36.980 at a university

00:50:37.580 then go out

00:50:38.680 and get a second job

00:50:39.560 and it's not my job

00:50:40.600 to do that for you

00:50:41.720 and by the way

00:50:42.380 civic education

00:50:43.040 should not be taking place

00:50:43.980 at the college level

00:50:44.620 you should be knowing

00:50:45.380 a lot of the stuff

00:50:46.120 that you're supposed to know

00:50:47.140 long before you're 18 years old

00:50:49.240 then how are you going to learn

00:50:49.920 your gender

00:50:50.420 that's what they have to teach you

00:50:52.620 the thing that we're overlooking

00:50:53.100 though

00:50:53.280 the thing that we're overlooking

00:50:54.020 here is the point

00:50:54.520 that Elena Kagan made to you

00:50:55.640 which is true

00:50:56.500 which is that

00:50:57.380 this isn't true

00:50:58.740 in the world of business

00:50:59.420 but this is true

00:51:00.220 in the world

00:51:00.700 at least of government

00:51:01.640 the people who run

00:51:03.320 the government

00:51:03.720 went to Yale

00:51:04.440 Harvard

00:51:04.960 Princeton

00:51:05.480 they all went to

00:51:06.840 at least an expensive

00:51:07.800 private school

00:51:08.560 whatever it is

00:51:09.360 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:51:11.160 is the evidence

00:51:12.280 that we need

00:51:13.380 to rethink

00:51:14.560 and rehabilitate

00:51:16.180 the liberal arts

00:51:16.920 because STEM

00:51:17.860 broadly speaking

00:51:19.240 at least engineering

00:51:20.000 is a skill

00:51:20.740 it's a job

00:51:21.300 it trains you for a job

00:51:22.300 the liberal arts

00:51:23.120 don't do that

00:51:23.720 they train you

00:51:24.420 to think about the world

00:51:25.360 to understand

00:51:26.060 your own civilization

00:51:26.760 if you don't understand

00:51:27.900 your past

00:51:28.400 you won't understand

00:51:29.320 your future

00:51:29.840 and the idea

00:51:31.320 that we now have

00:51:32.860 someone in the government

00:51:33.540 like AOC

00:51:34.180 who is scolding

00:51:35.380 Tim Sloan

00:51:36.320 of Wells Fargo

00:51:37.180 a man whose IQ

00:51:38.080 is seven times

00:51:39.060 what AOC's is

00:51:40.020 I'm going to push

00:51:41.120 back again

00:51:41.700 you went to Yale

00:51:43.300 for how long

00:51:43.980 well you know

00:51:45.240 it depends on

00:51:45.720 no I went for four years

00:51:46.780 you went for four years

00:51:47.500 how long did you go

00:51:50.080 to public school

00:51:50.900 before that

00:51:51.880 13 years

00:51:52.800 for 13 years

00:51:53.800 so it doesn't

00:51:55.720 make sense to me

00:51:56.740 if the government

00:51:57.300 is going to pay

00:51:57.820 for education

00:51:58.580 and that education

00:51:59.680 is supposed to result

00:52:00.620 in you knowing

00:52:01.160 a thing or two

00:52:01.880 and being prepared

00:52:02.760 for the real world

00:52:03.540 how is it possible

00:52:05.060 that they should be able

00:52:06.240 to accomplish this

00:52:07.220 in four years

00:52:08.700 when they have been

00:52:09.680 unable to accomplish

00:52:10.700 anything of the sort

00:52:11.660 in 13 years

00:52:12.400 your point is so right

00:52:13.240 I mean the way

00:52:14.020 to fix it

00:52:14.700 because I am

00:52:15.840 actually a great

00:52:17.260 defender of liberal

00:52:18.240 arts education

00:52:18.960 over the trade schools

00:52:20.380 it like

00:52:21.500 it really matters

00:52:22.400 for some people

00:52:23.340 the problem

00:52:24.460 with democratic

00:52:25.180 egalitarian society

00:52:26.300 is we've decided

00:52:27.440 if one person

00:52:28.660 goes to a four year

00:52:29.600 private college

00:52:30.340 everybody has to go

00:52:31.960 to a four year

00:52:32.440 and if everybody's

00:52:33.520 going to do it

00:52:33.900 then the government

00:52:34.500 has to pay for it

00:52:35.480 and then everyone's

00:52:36.400 going to get in

00:52:36.840 standards are going

00:52:37.540 to be lowered

00:52:37.960 a bunch of fake

00:52:39.080 academic disciplines

00:52:39.920 are going to be created

00:52:40.860 it's just utterly leveling

00:52:42.740 it harms people

00:52:43.760 who give $250,000

00:52:45.520 worth of debt

00:52:46.300 it harms taxpayers

00:52:47.480 it harms the government

00:52:48.220 it harms the university

00:52:49.060 and all those books

00:52:49.600 are available for free

00:52:50.420 yeah parents and students

00:52:51.600 have been lied to

00:52:52.200 they were told

00:52:52.860 that when they sent

00:52:54.220 their kid to college

00:52:54.960 a couple of things

00:52:55.820 were going to happen

00:52:56.260 one their earning potential

00:52:57.320 would inevitably rise

00:52:58.620 no matter what they did

00:52:59.420 in college

00:52:59.800 and two

00:53:00.780 they were going to exit

00:53:01.580 with a skill set

00:53:02.260 and both of those things

00:53:03.680 are essentially false

00:53:04.700 the earning potential

00:53:06.400 may rise

00:53:07.000 but only as an adjunct

00:53:08.680 of sorting

00:53:09.100 meaning that employers

00:53:10.360 look at a person

00:53:10.900 who went to Yale

00:53:11.300 differently than a person

00:53:12.040 who went to JUCO

00:53:12.580 that's just the way

00:53:13.160 that it works

00:53:13.520 even if the person

00:53:14.260 who went to JUCO

00:53:14.780 ends up being a much

00:53:15.460 better business person

00:53:16.220 than the person

00:53:16.840 who went to Yale

00:53:17.400 I mean this is

00:53:18.200 a point

00:53:18.780 hypothetically

00:53:19.320 where's my joy

00:53:21.920 at other human beings

00:53:22.920 in the room

00:53:23.240 I mean I made this

00:53:24.240 point on my show

00:53:25.100 I told a story

00:53:25.820 that I probably

00:53:27.460 shouldn't have told

00:53:28.060 about a human

00:53:28.860 who will remain unnamed

00:53:29.740 cursing you out

00:53:30.680 for not having

00:53:31.460 gone to college

00:53:32.020 because this is what

00:53:33.100 they went to Harvard

00:53:33.760 after all

00:53:34.200 this person did go to Harvard

00:53:35.160 and that was deeply

00:53:36.880 deeply important

00:53:37.520 because it was credentialing

00:53:38.400 they knew

00:53:38.900 that in the elite strata

00:53:40.300 of American society

00:53:41.220 that credential matters

00:53:42.600 but the reason originally

00:53:43.700 the credential mattered

00:53:44.460 was not for the sorting

00:53:45.200 it was because

00:53:45.580 the assumption was

00:53:46.480 not only that you were smarter

00:53:47.660 if you went to this university

00:53:48.560 but that you learned

00:53:49.240 more and better things

00:53:50.300 at these top level universities

00:53:51.800 that is no longer true

00:53:52.980 the only thing

00:53:53.700 that Ivy Leagues provide

00:53:54.900 is the credential

00:53:55.880 on the wall

00:53:56.580 unless you are learning

00:53:57.280 an actual thing

00:53:58.200 and the actual things

00:53:59.440 and here's the thing

00:54:00.460 once it got watered down

00:54:01.760 and you weren't learning

00:54:02.340 actual things anymore

00:54:03.120 and it was just

00:54:04.040 the credential

00:54:04.480 this is how you get

00:54:05.540 to the point

00:54:05.940 where colleges now

00:54:06.960 have an active interest

00:54:08.040 in not exposing people

00:54:09.320 to uncomfortable ideas

00:54:10.300 because if you go there

00:54:11.700 just for the credential

00:54:12.780 and just to build

00:54:13.620 a social fabric

00:54:14.280 the last thing you want

00:54:15.440 is somebody spoiling

00:54:16.180 the party with things

00:54:16.980 like tough grades

00:54:17.860 or ideas you've never heard

00:54:18.900 this is why Harvey Mansfield

00:54:19.760 was forced not to

00:54:20.840 give actual grades

00:54:21.960 to his own students

00:54:22.800 at Harvard

00:54:23.240 grade inflation was bad

00:54:24.380 it was an inherent bad

00:54:25.100 at what point

00:54:25.900 does the fact

00:54:26.560 that you can go on

00:54:27.400 the internet

00:54:27.840 and learn so much

00:54:28.800 of this stuff

00:54:29.280 and get even classes

00:54:30.120 and lectures

00:54:30.640 from people

00:54:31.460 who actually know things

00:54:32.500 or get the great courses

00:54:33.520 DVDs

00:54:35.300 or CDs

00:54:36.220 and listen to those

00:54:37.120 at what point

00:54:37.880 does that kind of

00:54:38.480 overcome the branding

00:54:40.260 when employers

00:54:40.900 stop being full of crap

00:54:41.820 this is really about

00:54:42.620 the employers

00:54:43.040 because the fact is

00:54:43.920 that if there were not

00:54:44.960 a market interest

00:54:45.840 in you spending

00:54:46.500 $200,000

00:54:47.320 for a four year education

00:54:49.020 in which you learn nothing

00:54:49.800 because if you were

00:54:50.800 a poli sci major

00:54:51.500 I'm a poli sci major

00:54:52.340 you didn't learn anything

00:54:53.360 you didn't learn how to write

00:54:54.560 you didn't learn how to think

00:54:55.480 you learned nothing

00:54:56.700 you didn't learn any

00:54:57.620 great country riffs

00:54:58.420 on the piano

00:54:58.900 nothing

00:54:59.420 legitimately

00:55:00.560 you probably learned more

00:55:01.700 in JUCO

00:55:02.200 studying country music

00:55:03.160 than I did

00:55:03.900 studying political science

00:55:05.100 at UCLA

00:55:06.540 if employers

00:55:08.640 were instead

00:55:09.480 to look

00:55:10.220 honestly

00:55:11.060 you want to know

00:55:11.580 the actual solution

00:55:12.260 to this

00:55:12.560 real credentialing

00:55:13.940 what this would be

00:55:15.220 is you would take

00:55:15.900 the SAT

00:55:16.260 you wouldn't go to college

00:55:17.380 the SAT

00:55:18.280 and your GPA

00:55:19.000 would determine

00:55:19.520 where you work

00:55:19.920 you'd publish those

00:55:20.620 you would just go

00:55:21.140 straight there

00:55:21.600 or you'd go

00:55:21.940 straight to trade school

00:55:22.600 on the basis

00:55:22.920 because that's

00:55:23.480 what they're doing

00:55:24.140 that is exactly

00:55:25.080 how it works

00:55:25.540 well go ahead

00:55:27.040 well you've identified

00:55:27.740 the problem

00:55:28.320 which is

00:55:28.720 there is this idea

00:55:29.800 that we all have now

00:55:31.000 which is that

00:55:31.680 four year liberal arts college

00:55:33.220 is supposed to give you

00:55:34.320 a skill

00:55:34.900 that isn't true

00:55:36.240 you are not supposed

00:55:37.180 to get a skill

00:55:37.900 from the liberal arts

00:55:38.660 you are explicitly

00:55:39.500 not supposed to have

00:55:40.940 any skill

00:55:41.420 you are supposed

00:55:41.860 to study history

00:55:42.700 math

00:55:43.620 you have a skill

00:55:44.500 you have the art of freedom

00:55:45.740 that's right

00:55:46.300 yeah

00:55:46.540 that's right

00:55:47.100 I want to get to

00:55:48.480 another question

00:55:49.000 but I'll close out

00:55:50.000 with this

00:55:50.500 I have a theory

00:55:51.440 and it's the 5% theory

00:55:52.920 Alcoholics Anonymous

00:55:55.820 has a success rate

00:55:57.700 of approximately 5%

00:55:58.940 that is true

00:55:59.380 if you're an alcoholic

00:56:00.340 and you go through

00:56:00.980 the program at AAA

00:56:01.800 5% of you

00:56:03.100 will get clean

00:56:03.700 it's AAA

00:56:05.080 it fixes your tires

00:56:06.220 that's right

00:56:06.620 I'm sorry

00:56:07.140 I'm sorry

00:56:07.200 Alcoholics Anonymous

00:56:09.040 the

00:56:10.540 the

00:56:11.760 interesting aspect

00:56:13.420 of that is that

00:56:14.100 if you don't go

00:56:15.320 through Alcoholics Anonymous

00:56:16.320 you also have

00:56:17.760 a 5% chance

00:56:18.540 of getting sober

00:56:19.060 so statistically

00:56:20.620 a drunk

00:56:21.640 in Alcoholics Anonymous

00:56:23.220 has the exact same

00:56:24.300 chance of getting sober

00:56:25.160 as a drunk

00:56:25.640 outside of

00:56:26.240 Alcoholics Anonymous

00:56:27.180 and you could look

00:56:28.040 at that and say

00:56:28.480 well see Alcoholics Anonymous

00:56:29.500 is a sham

00:56:30.080 I don't

00:56:30.880 put a pin right there

00:56:31.820 my theory is that

00:56:32.960 this same thing

00:56:33.780 will apply across the board

00:56:34.800 Dave Ramsey

00:56:36.000 is a pal of ours

00:56:36.840 kind of a hero

00:56:38.700 in broadcasting

00:56:39.940 and somebody

00:56:41.140 that I personally

00:56:42.140 look up to

00:56:42.600 an awful lot

00:56:43.040 for the business

00:56:43.460 that he's built

00:56:43.920 I have some

00:56:46.120 disagreements

00:56:46.780 with Dave Ramsey's

00:56:48.420 financial philosophy

00:56:50.380 I think it has

00:56:51.400 a great sort of

00:56:52.840 understanding

00:56:54.340 of human nature

00:56:55.140 but I think

00:56:56.740 and I think

00:56:57.260 but I think that it

00:56:58.120 also has a few

00:56:59.780 problems with it

00:57:00.660 I suspect

00:57:02.320 that something like

00:57:04.120 5% of people

00:57:05.280 who

00:57:06.340 adhere to the

00:57:07.720 Dave Ramsey philosophy

00:57:08.880 actually managed

00:57:10.420 to save up

00:57:10.960 a successful nest egg

00:57:12.020 for retirement

00:57:12.940 and I suspect

00:57:14.060 that also 5%

00:57:15.660 of people

00:57:16.060 who don't listen

00:57:16.700 to Dave Ramsey

00:57:17.440 will manage

00:57:18.280 to save up

00:57:18.900 a successful

00:57:19.560 nest egg

00:57:20.860 for retirement

00:57:21.440 I think

00:57:22.200 college

00:57:23.000 and a liberal arts

00:57:24.320 degree

00:57:24.680 your son Spencer

00:57:25.700 is a grand example

00:57:26.740 Spencer knows

00:57:28.900 a thing or two

00:57:29.540 about the liberal arts

00:57:30.460 for his trouble

00:57:31.040 I suspect that

00:57:32.660 5% of people

00:57:33.660 who go through

00:57:34.140 the university system

00:57:35.080 will walk out

00:57:35.920 knowing a thing or two

00:57:36.720 about the liberal arts

00:57:37.540 I suspect 5%

00:57:38.720 of people

00:57:39.080 who don't go

00:57:39.820 through the system

00:57:40.440 will know a thing

00:57:41.180 or two about

00:57:41.500 the liberal arts

00:57:42.000 I'd use you

00:57:42.640 as an example

00:57:43.180 you're kind of a hybrid

00:57:44.220 you went through

00:57:44.720 the system

00:57:45.180 learned nothing

00:57:45.840 about the liberal arts

00:57:46.680 then got out

00:57:47.500 and taught them

00:57:48.740 in order to act

00:57:49.440 my 5% theory

00:57:50.960 doesn't mean

00:57:52.300 that a liberal education

00:57:54.060 is bad

00:57:54.760 it doesn't mean

00:57:55.540 that Dave Ramsey's

00:57:57.060 financial freedom universe

00:57:58.380 is wrong

00:57:59.620 it doesn't mean

00:58:00.300 that Alcoholics Anonymous

00:58:01.120 is useful

00:58:01.800 it means that

00:58:02.840 some small part

00:58:03.960 of the population

00:58:04.780 is going to find

00:58:06.880 the answers

00:58:07.500 and for that small part

00:58:09.780 of the population

00:58:11.000 the answers

00:58:12.300 that are provided

00:58:13.060 in the form

00:58:13.660 of Alcoholics Anonymous

00:58:14.500 in the form

00:58:14.980 of Dave Ramsey

00:58:15.620 in the form

00:58:16.300 of a liberal arts education

00:58:17.480 a university education

00:58:19.380 become the mechanism

00:58:21.660 by which they

00:58:22.440 they affect

00:58:23.700 that betterment

00:58:24.480 and similarly

00:58:26.020 they might find

00:58:26.720 some other path

00:58:27.300 they might find

00:58:27.800 a book by some

00:58:28.460 other financial theorist

00:58:30.180 other than Dave Ramsey

00:58:31.060 they may find

00:58:31.840 a program

00:58:32.260 other than Alcoholics Anonymous

00:58:33.380 they might read

00:58:34.080 the books

00:58:34.440 that they didn't read

00:58:35.080 in college

00:58:35.420 the only thing

00:58:35.960 the only part

00:58:36.500 of this I disagree

00:58:37.100 with

00:58:37.300 because I basically

00:58:38.140 agree with that

00:58:38.780 but the only part

00:58:39.420 of this I disagree

00:58:40.100 with is

00:58:40.480 in the system

00:58:41.200 that teaches

00:58:42.040 civics

00:58:42.980 history

00:58:43.760 math

00:58:44.480 science

00:58:45.140 in the lower grades

00:58:46.900 not in the college grades

00:58:48.120 you have a better society

00:58:49.340 and that has actually

00:58:50.580 broken down

00:58:51.080 if what you're saying

00:58:51.800 is that we ought

00:58:52.420 to have those things

00:58:53.320 then I think we all agree

00:58:54.260 I think what we're saying

00:58:55.380 is just we don't

00:58:56.020 but we

00:58:56.460 well I think that is right

00:58:58.140 we are saying that we don't

00:58:59.480 but we are saying

00:59:00.160 that there's no reason

00:59:00.960 that we should give up on that

00:59:01.980 that when the guy says

00:59:02.760 when the guy asks the question

00:59:04.060 how do I improve this

00:59:05.160 that is what we should be

00:59:06.500 and this is where we disagree

00:59:07.740 my solution is fire

00:59:09.180 I think you solved

00:59:10.220 the university problem with fire

00:59:11.360 I don't think

00:59:12.420 I think that it is so bad

00:59:13.800 and so rampant

00:59:14.500 and so big

00:59:15.340 yeah

00:59:15.760 a trillion dollars

00:59:17.020 student loan industry

00:59:17.740 I don't think that you can

00:59:18.960 through incrementalism

00:59:19.880 fix the university system

00:59:20.660 the left

00:59:21.040 the left took it over

00:59:21.940 by incrementalism

00:59:22.780 I don't know why

00:59:23.220 we can't take it back

00:59:24.020 because we don't

00:59:24.800 we don't operate

00:59:25.520 the way that

00:59:25.880 that may be a mistake

00:59:28.240 by the way

00:59:28.560 I also don't think

00:59:29.120 that's true

00:59:29.520 I don't think the left

00:59:30.300 took it over by incrementalism

00:59:31.300 I think there was a massive

00:59:32.000 revolution in the 1960s

00:59:33.240 and they turned everything

00:59:33.860 on its head

00:59:34.580 and then they just waited

00:59:35.360 for the old people to die

00:59:36.180 but they did

00:59:37.180 but they did

00:59:37.680 no but they did move

00:59:38.800 into the universities

00:59:39.700 on purpose

00:59:40.600 with purpose

00:59:41.760 God and Man at Yale

00:59:42.560 was written in the 50s

00:59:43.620 that's right

00:59:43.840 it was Buckley's first book

00:59:44.660 yeah that's right

00:59:45.240 and there's no reason

00:59:45.860 that we can't do that

00:59:46.820 except that we won't

00:59:47.740 I mean you're right

00:59:48.460 that we don't

00:59:48.920 but I'm not sure

00:59:49.740 I think there should be

00:59:50.360 like 15 colleges

00:59:51.280 in the country

00:59:51.840 this is exactly the thing

00:59:53.660 this is what I

00:59:54.100 very fewer people

00:59:55.000 should go to college

00:59:55.720 the government

00:59:56.360 shouldn't pay for it

00:59:57.280 the people who

00:59:58.180 should not go to college

00:59:59.440 should

01:00:00.040 will thrive

01:00:00.960 doing something else

01:00:01.860 they won't be burdened

01:00:02.940 kids

01:00:03.260 unless you want

01:00:05.640 to be a doctor

01:00:06.420 or a lawyer

01:00:07.920 or a rocket scientist

01:00:10.660 or a congresswoman

01:00:11.840 from New York

01:00:12.560 be like me

01:00:14.080 get college

01:00:14.800 and become a millionaire

01:00:15.720 Alicia

01:00:16.540 we have time

01:00:17.400 for one more question

01:00:18.440 I mean all you really

01:00:19.780 need to know

01:00:20.240 about colleges

01:00:20.860 is that Michael Knowles

01:00:22.020 got into Yale

01:00:22.740 and his mommy and daddy

01:00:23.820 did not pay them

01:00:24.760 $5.50

01:00:25.240 I know

01:00:25.640 I could imagine

01:00:26.380 I would have gone to Oxford

01:00:27.420 if they'd actually

01:00:28.120 been willing to pay

01:00:28.780 I don't know why

01:00:29.560 I didn't do this

01:00:30.100 to get my kids to Yale

01:00:31.020 and Knowles got in

01:00:31.920 on a water polo

01:00:33.320 scholarship

01:00:33.980 and it was super

01:00:35.340 imposed

01:00:35.900 yeah and it was

01:00:36.800 real weird

01:00:37.180 the first time

01:00:37.580 he showed up

01:00:37.840 to the pool

01:00:38.160 riding a horse

01:00:38.760 I mean

01:00:39.640 this is the guy

01:00:41.000 this is the guy

01:00:41.920 that actually posted

01:00:42.900 a picture on Instagram

01:00:43.920 from the University

01:00:45.180 of Michigan

01:00:45.740 while tagging his

01:00:46.860 location at the

01:00:47.740 University of Michigan

01:00:48.720 and said

01:00:49.180 where am I

01:00:50.240 that's a Yale degree

01:00:52.720 well there were a lot

01:00:53.960 of like

01:00:54.240 there were transvestites

01:00:55.380 now I'm sounding

01:00:55.960 like the media matters

01:00:56.740 guy

01:00:56.960 I can't say this

01:00:57.700 alrighty

01:00:58.580 so speaking of

01:00:59.520 Knowles'

01:00:59.760 illegitimate children

01:01:00.680 that he probably

01:01:01.520 created at Yale

01:01:02.520 Ryan says

01:01:03.380 he's been seeing

01:01:04.080 some interesting

01:01:04.760 Twitter parenting

01:01:06.020 advice floating out

01:01:07.020 there

01:01:07.200 Ryan

01:01:07.540 don't follow

01:01:08.240 the Twitter

01:01:08.620 parenting advice

01:01:09.380 it says

01:01:10.100 quote

01:01:10.460 never punish

01:01:11.280 or praise

01:01:12.020 your children

01:01:12.540 what are your

01:01:13.020 thoughts

01:01:13.580 that's the

01:01:16.140 stupidest idea

01:01:16.920 I've ever heard

01:01:17.600 yeah

01:01:17.860 so those of us

01:01:18.960 with children

01:01:19.360 get to answer

01:01:19.800 first

01:01:20.100 Knowles you

01:01:21.580 knowles you

01:01:21.880 want this

01:01:25.800 because you

01:01:26.300 have kids

01:01:26.740 who are grown

01:01:27.100 so

01:01:27.300 yeah no

01:01:27.760 that's absolutely

01:01:28.560 absurd

01:01:29.080 they did

01:01:29.800 turn out

01:01:30.100 my kids

01:01:30.820 turned out

01:01:31.140 great

01:01:31.280 well first

01:01:31.600 of all

01:01:31.740 you've met

01:01:32.040 my wife

01:01:32.500 you know

01:01:32.740 you understand

01:01:33.200 why my kids

01:01:33.800 turned out

01:01:34.100 well

01:01:34.240 but I mean

01:01:34.780 no that

01:01:35.160 that of course

01:01:35.820 is absurd

01:01:36.280 what you

01:01:36.580 shouldn't do

01:01:37.080 is you shouldn't

01:01:37.760 praise your kids

01:01:38.360 for nothing

01:01:38.840 and you shouldn't

01:01:39.720 punish them

01:01:40.120 for nothing

01:01:40.480 you know

01:01:40.780 there should be

01:01:41.360 you have a

01:01:41.920 moral system

01:01:43.120 and when

01:01:43.980 when you say

01:01:44.480 something is

01:01:45.000 going to

01:01:45.460 is going to

01:01:45.960 hold

01:01:46.180 this is the

01:01:46.640 most important

01:01:47.200 thing you can

01:01:47.580 be as a parent

01:01:48.580 is consistent

01:01:49.180 when you say

01:01:49.960 something is not

01:01:50.620 going to be done

01:01:51.220 it's not going

01:01:52.000 to be done

01:01:52.360 when you say

01:01:52.720 there's going to

01:01:52.980 be a consequence

01:01:53.600 that consequence

01:01:59.800 the biggest threat

01:02:02.680 to consistency

01:02:03.320 that was very good

01:02:04.140 you make that up

01:02:04.840 the biggest threat

01:02:06.880 to consistency

01:02:07.480 as a parent

01:02:07.940 is not your kid

01:02:08.600 it's you

01:02:08.980 that's right

01:02:09.540 because it sucks

01:02:10.240 to be a consistent

01:02:10.980 parent

01:02:11.220 it does

01:02:11.900 it's so terrible

01:02:12.880 it's so terrible

01:02:13.540 when you have

01:02:13.880 to punish your kids

01:02:14.660 it's the worst

01:02:15.700 thing in the world

01:02:16.780 when you threaten

01:02:17.960 like we're not

01:02:18.680 going to do X

01:02:19.220 and you know

01:02:19.800 that everybody

01:02:20.220 wants to do X

01:02:20.980 in five minutes

01:02:22.340 when the kid

01:02:22.620 apologizes

01:02:23.300 you're still

01:02:24.400 going to want

01:02:24.780 to do X

01:02:25.140 you're going to

01:02:25.380 want to go back

01:02:26.040 on it

01:02:26.280 and then you can't

01:02:27.180 it's just awful

01:02:27.860 you want to

01:02:29.180 you want to

01:02:29.840 rein goodness

01:02:30.440 on your children

01:02:30.860 you want a good

01:02:31.380 piece of advice

01:02:31.920 it's your responsibility

01:02:32.880 that's the advice

01:02:34.040 of parents

01:02:34.360 everything is your

01:02:35.040 responsibility

01:02:35.380 and if parents

01:02:37.500 really understood

01:02:38.260 that from education

01:02:39.240 to feeding their kids

01:02:40.020 then it would solve

01:02:41.040 98% of the problems

01:02:42.380 in the United States

01:02:43.120 the fact is it's hard

01:02:44.980 it's hard to be a parent

01:02:45.720 it is hard

01:02:45.960 but at the same time

01:02:48.060 it's innate

01:02:48.660 you're saying that parents

01:02:49.980 have to be good

01:02:50.640 and responsible

01:02:51.260 and you're against abortion

01:02:53.060 I don't understand

01:02:54.680 why you're forcing

01:02:55.480 children to live

01:02:56.300 in worlds

01:02:56.660 with suboptimal parents

01:02:58.040 I'm for abortion

01:02:59.060 but only after birth

01:02:59.920 it was so funny

01:03:01.420 so last night

01:03:03.120 I was speaking

01:03:03.400 at University of Michigan

01:03:04.280 and a guy got up

01:03:05.200 and he was asking me

01:03:05.720 about the food stamps program

01:03:06.740 now there's yet to be

01:03:08.000 in childhood nutrition

01:03:09.540 he was specifically

01:03:10.060 asking about school lunches

01:03:11.180 and the fact that

01:03:12.020 they're really not nutritious

01:03:13.000 and the fact is

01:03:13.920 that Michelle Obama

01:03:14.540 tried to make them

01:03:15.100 more nutritious

01:03:15.520 the kids didn't eat it

01:03:16.260 they threw it out

01:03:16.880 and all the rest

01:03:17.640 and he asked

01:03:17.940 what's your solution to that

01:03:18.840 and I said

01:03:19.320 abolish school lunches

01:03:20.220 and have parents

01:03:20.760 feed their own damn kids

01:03:21.820 because I am a parent

01:03:23.240 you know what my

01:03:23.800 number one priority is

01:03:24.840 and the only priority

01:03:25.920 that matters

01:03:26.260 feeding my child

01:03:27.380 and if you can't

01:03:28.000 feed your child

01:03:28.540 you shouldn't have

01:03:29.320 that child

01:03:29.700 it should be removed

01:03:30.280 from your home

01:03:30.940 the notion that it is

01:03:32.280 the government

01:03:32.600 like you have

01:03:33.360 legitimately

01:03:33.780 the one thing

01:03:34.840 you have to do today

01:03:35.740 is feed your kid

01:03:36.640 end of story

01:03:37.600 and we have a society

01:03:38.840 where it's like

01:03:39.120 no you know what

01:03:39.520 if I don't feel like

01:03:40.100 feeding my kid today

01:03:40.760 we'll just make sure

01:03:41.280 that the government

01:03:41.700 feeds my kid

01:03:42.460 or if I don't feel

01:03:43.280 like punishing my kid

01:03:43.980 well I'm sure my kid

01:03:44.700 will get educated

01:03:45.260 at school

01:03:45.720 and you're seeing it

01:03:47.060 parents abdicating duties

01:03:48.260 to

01:03:48.520 it's not just public schools

01:03:49.860 parents

01:03:50.160 religious parents

01:03:50.980 abdicating religious education

01:03:52.360 to religious day schools

01:03:53.740 okay I'll send my kid there

01:03:54.880 that's where they'll learn

01:03:55.620 everything they need to know

01:03:56.320 about religion

01:03:56.820 or my kid's a bad

01:03:58.160 discipline problem

01:03:58.960 I won't do anything at home

01:03:59.900 that's their teacher's job

01:04:00.980 I mean did you not

01:04:01.600 have the experience

01:04:02.140 the experience I have

01:04:03.660 I have a visceral memory

01:04:04.860 of this

01:04:05.120 I can call it up

01:04:05.940 in my skin

01:04:06.860 is bringing that first baby home

01:04:09.400 and realizing

01:04:09.980 oh no

01:04:11.260 I have to do this

01:04:12.760 this is my responsibility

01:04:13.980 this kid lives or dies

01:04:16.120 on me

01:04:17.060 I've got to make a living

01:04:18.140 I've got to keep

01:04:18.820 you know when it rains

01:04:19.800 there cannot be water

01:04:20.960 on my kid

01:04:21.680 there's got to be a roof

01:04:22.760 over that kid's head

01:04:23.840 that to me

01:04:24.640 is the moment you grow up

01:04:25.940 that's the

01:04:26.420 that was the first

01:04:27.140 and last thought

01:04:27.840 Michael Knowles

01:04:28.360 ever had as a parent

01:04:29.040 I do actually have a thought

01:04:30.280 on parenting

01:04:30.760 which is this

01:04:31.420 for all the people

01:04:32.280 that have ever been told

01:04:33.740 that Michael Knowles

01:04:34.940 is their father

01:04:35.640 there's a lot of cats

01:04:37.440 with that name

01:04:37.980 there's a lot of cats

01:04:39.140 with that name

01:04:39.660 alright

01:04:39.920 so if you're enjoying

01:04:41.420 this conversation

01:04:42.260 what's wrong with you

01:04:43.960 why

01:04:44.180 if you think

01:04:45.800 I'd like to be

01:04:46.500 in a smoke filled

01:04:47.940 small

01:04:48.460 overly hot studio

01:04:50.140 with these guys

01:04:50.800 as they do this live

01:04:52.020 well go on over

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01:05:05.740 there's a lot of wannabes

01:05:06.720 a lot of posers

01:05:07.460 and they are also useful

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01:05:37.860 hang out with us

01:05:38.480 since you're the god king

01:05:39.560 of the Daily Wire

01:05:40.320 correct

01:05:40.700 you small cheek

01:05:41.540 how do Knowles and I

01:05:42.880 get our scotch recharged

01:05:44.320 this is the real problem

01:05:46.100 here I thought we were

01:05:47.020 running a serious operation

01:05:48.540 what kind of place is this

01:05:49.860 I think that the answer

01:05:51.000 is obvious

01:05:51.540 you had them served

01:05:52.820 in those glasses

01:05:53.940 instead of

01:05:54.800 in the Leftist Tears

01:05:56.040 Hot or Cold Tumblr

01:05:56.500 we could still have scotch

01:05:57.660 in which no matter

01:05:58.400 how much you drink

01:05:59.640 it just automatically

01:06:00.820 it automatically

01:06:01.380 refills

01:06:02.280 the real problem here

01:06:02.900 is that the popcorn here

01:06:03.740 just doesn't have

01:06:04.320 enough flavor

01:06:04.760 that's a real problem

01:06:06.340 that's better

01:06:08.180 that's what gives you

01:06:10.020 that special tang

01:06:11.020 so it is

01:06:13.700 International Women's Day

01:06:15.080 just passed us

01:06:15.840 on Friday

01:06:16.700 and I actually

01:06:17.260 just feel like

01:06:17.720 it wouldn't be

01:06:18.040 very Christian

01:06:18.620 or whatever

01:06:19.180 Finn is

01:06:19.800 of us

01:06:20.440 not to talk

01:06:21.540 briefly

01:06:22.100 not to talk

01:06:23.360 briefly

01:06:23.720 about the absurdity

01:06:24.620 that is

01:06:24.960 International Women's Day

01:06:26.680 I celebrated

01:06:27.160 Ketlin Jenner

01:06:28.000 all those

01:06:30.120 track and field

01:06:30.660 stars

01:06:31.040 and high schools

01:06:31.500 how condescending

01:06:32.500 is this

01:06:32.940 do you know

01:06:33.640 nobody knows this

01:06:34.740 they only get one day

01:06:35.860 53% of the population

01:06:38.700 1-365th of the days

01:06:41.360 International Women's Day

01:06:43.220 destroyed the 20th century

01:06:44.520 very few people know this

01:06:46.300 the International Women's Day

01:06:48.580 on March 8th

01:06:49.700 it did

01:06:50.220 on March 8th

01:06:51.640 in what was it

01:06:52.140 1918-1917

01:06:53.340 started the Russian Revolution

01:06:55.640 and Leon Trotsky

01:06:57.360 no less a communist

01:06:58.240 than Leon Trotsky

01:06:58.920 credited International Women's Day

01:07:00.900 which had been invented

01:07:01.920 in 1909

01:07:02.840 in New York

01:07:03.460 by the Socialist Party

01:07:04.500 it then spread

01:07:05.440 in 1910

01:07:06.100 there were a couple

01:07:06.520 celebrations

01:07:07.080 eight years later

01:07:08.560 fast forward

01:07:09.460 in Russia

01:07:10.180 they had an

01:07:10.620 International Women's Day

01:07:11.520 demonstration

01:07:12.120 Trotsky credited it

01:07:13.460 with launching

01:07:14.080 the revolution

01:07:14.700 which is why

01:07:15.400 Lenin made it

01:07:16.140 a national holiday

01:07:17.160 in the Soviet Union

01:07:18.460 and not only that

01:07:19.020 once you gave them

01:07:19.500 the vote

01:07:19.860 they stopped

01:07:20.400 letting us have alcohol

01:07:21.380 I mean

01:07:21.680 this is one of the

01:07:24.520 things about

01:07:24.840 there's only one thing

01:07:25.660 that matters about

01:07:26.160 International Women's Day

01:07:27.060 Captain Marvel

01:07:27.580 came out

01:07:28.080 finally equality

01:07:29.920 has been achieved

01:07:30.560 finally

01:07:30.980 we have a female

01:07:32.320 superhero

01:07:32.920 not like the other one

01:07:34.400 from like a couple

01:07:35.000 years ago

01:07:35.420 Wonder Woman

01:07:36.060 which was actually

01:07:37.040 a good movie

01:07:37.400 the 70s

01:07:37.980 that all the guys

01:07:39.080 had like posters of

01:07:39.960 on their bedrooms

01:07:41.460 not like any of the

01:07:43.080 not like Electra

01:07:43.800 which no one saw

01:07:44.720 that was a movie

01:07:45.600 by the way

01:07:45.980 yes I remember

01:07:46.580 Jennifer Garvey

01:07:47.080 by the way

01:07:47.540 that's true equality

01:07:48.360 if women can make

01:07:50.180 superhero movies

01:07:50.960 that bomb at the box office

01:07:52.200 then they are equal to men

01:07:53.540 that's right

01:07:54.080 but yeah

01:07:55.660 International Women's Day

01:07:57.160 is always

01:07:57.720 it's always shocking to me

01:07:59.160 that on International Women's Day

01:08:00.440 we're supposed to worry

01:08:01.700 about how difficult

01:08:02.720 women have it

01:08:03.320 in the freest society

01:08:04.240 in the history of humanity

01:08:05.380 for women

01:08:05.860 where they constitute

01:08:06.520 the majority of voters

01:08:07.480 the majority of people

01:08:08.440 who get college degrees

01:08:09.420 and a higher earning cohort

01:08:11.360 when they first get out of college

01:08:12.760 before they start having kids

01:08:13.760 and taking time off

01:08:14.440 from the workforce

01:08:14.940 this is the real trouble

01:08:16.740 like we can't look

01:08:17.280 across the sea

01:08:17.920 where women are forced

01:08:18.980 into hijab

01:08:19.840 or where they are

01:08:20.440 or where they are

01:08:21.100 forced into abortion

01:08:22.280 in China

01:08:22.760 or where they are

01:08:24.240 victimized with

01:08:25.160 genital mutilation

01:08:27.280 we can't talk about

01:08:28.700 any of those things

01:08:29.480 on International Women's Day

01:08:30.540 you know like actually

01:08:31.140 helping women

01:08:31.700 who are suffering

01:08:32.240 we have to pretend

01:08:33.180 that true suffering

01:08:34.320 is that it took

01:08:35.120 21 Marvel movies

01:08:36.760 for a mediocre actress

01:08:38.520 like Brie Larson

01:08:39.280 to finally be cast

01:08:40.780 in a Marvel movie

01:08:42.080 with a female

01:08:43.140 lead superhero

01:08:44.060 not like Scarlett Johansson

01:08:45.760 but I want to know

01:08:46.460 I want to know

01:08:47.000 what would it look like

01:08:48.660 if we celebrated men

01:08:49.620 I want to celebrate

01:08:50.720 the things that men discovered

01:08:51.960 like everything

01:08:53.060 I want the things we invented

01:08:55.540 like everything

01:08:56.380 like everything

01:08:57.060 okay Tucker Carlson

01:08:58.540 all right

01:08:59.060 here we go

01:08:59.660 medium average

01:09:00.260 welcome

01:09:00.700 you could argue

01:09:02.220 that the greatest thing

01:09:03.440 that men

01:09:03.800 in addition to discovering

01:09:05.060 the entire everything

01:09:06.340 except uranium

01:09:07.780 I think

01:09:08.160 that one of the greatest

01:09:10.560 achievements of men

01:09:11.680 particularly in the West

01:09:12.920 and particularly

01:09:13.640 in this country

01:09:14.320 is that men

01:09:15.820 afforded to women

01:09:16.880 the right to vote

01:09:17.540 absolutely

01:09:17.960 which is the largest

01:09:18.840 peaceful

01:09:19.880 voluntary transfer

01:09:22.040 of power

01:09:22.460 probably in all

01:09:23.140 of human history

01:09:23.640 in which the group

01:09:24.620 of people

01:09:25.060 men

01:09:25.560 who had

01:09:26.480 all

01:09:27.260 political power

01:09:28.400 100% of it

01:09:29.480 chose to give

01:09:30.860 all of the political power

01:09:32.880 not half of it

01:09:33.620 all of it

01:09:34.420 because in an electoral

01:09:35.260 democracy

01:09:35.880 whoever has

01:09:37.340 the majority

01:09:38.180 of the votes

01:09:38.960 has the political power

01:09:40.300 and by the way

01:09:40.740 so women are

01:09:41.320 over 50%

01:09:42.880 of the population

01:09:43.620 but the voter gap

01:09:45.280 gives women

01:09:46.040 a 15 point advantage

01:09:47.560 women vote

01:09:48.300 at a significantly higher rate

01:09:49.620 and men

01:09:50.020 voluntarily

01:09:50.980 gave that power

01:09:52.500 to women

01:09:53.200 because they

01:09:53.800 recognized

01:09:54.540 an historic injustice

01:09:55.580 they thought

01:09:56.380 that there was

01:09:56.720 a better way

01:09:57.280 as you often say

01:09:58.560 they built

01:09:59.100 on the foundations

01:10:01.220 of previous generations

01:10:02.220 who moved the world

01:10:02.900 toward a freer and freer place

01:10:04.120 and they elected

01:10:05.420 to give women

01:10:06.180 this point

01:10:07.560 none of this is to ignore

01:10:08.520 the fact that for

01:10:09.140 a long time

01:10:10.200 and continually

01:10:11.040 men are schmucks

01:10:12.200 of course

01:10:12.840 all of this is true

01:10:13.580 and when we say

01:10:14.000 men invented everything

01:10:14.900 of course the automatic

01:10:16.120 counter argument is right

01:10:16.920 because women weren't

01:10:17.460 in the workforce

01:10:17.880 because men didn't want

01:10:18.600 them in the workforce

01:10:19.100 there's truth to that too

01:10:20.260 but it is also true

01:10:21.520 that men did a lot

01:10:22.360 of good things

01:10:22.860 like I don't understand

01:10:23.640 why we can't just recognize

01:10:25.080 that both sexes

01:10:25.900 have given an enormous amount

01:10:27.280 to civilization

01:10:28.140 or the automatic denigration

01:10:30.720 of women

01:10:31.220 who have chosen

01:10:31.900 to be mothers

01:10:32.380 which is another

01:10:33.640 automatic denigration

01:10:34.140 see the whole problem

01:10:35.680 that's the whole problem

01:10:36.620 the whole problem

01:10:37.200 is that feminism

01:10:37.760 has imposed

01:10:38.600 masculine values

01:10:39.920 on everybody

01:10:40.580 so that women

01:10:41.860 are actually less

01:10:43.320 under feminism

01:10:44.100 than they were

01:10:45.000 when people said

01:10:45.700 oh women

01:10:46.420 the other half

01:10:47.380 of the civilization

01:10:48.540 who have given birth

01:10:49.720 to every single human being

01:10:51.300 who made every home

01:10:52.480 who made every life

01:10:53.380 in the cradle

01:10:53.840 how dare you

01:10:54.160 the world

01:10:54.620 how dare you

01:10:55.720 what a statement

01:10:56.140 I mean the idea

01:10:57.820 that it was somehow

01:10:58.800 more important

01:10:59.680 to build the civilization

01:11:02.620 that we built

01:11:03.200 to protect women

01:11:03.940 than to be the woman

01:11:04.960 that was being built

01:11:05.800 to protect

01:11:06.280 is insane

01:11:07.340 it is insane

01:11:08.180 and to sell to women

01:11:09.940 that the only way

01:11:10.960 that they can succeed

01:11:11.700 is to be essentially men

01:11:13.060 is to cut short

01:11:14.780 what it is to be a woman

01:11:15.700 well you know

01:11:15.980 the truth is though

01:11:16.740 that this is something

01:11:17.500 that I said

01:11:18.460 after the death

01:11:19.620 of George H.W. Bush

01:11:20.540 that it's harder

01:11:21.120 to be a good man

01:11:22.000 than it is to be a great man

01:11:22.960 that being a great man

01:11:24.080 is about fame

01:11:25.420 and being in a moment

01:11:26.320 where you are needed

01:11:27.440 and lots of people

01:11:28.620 know who you are

01:11:29.320 and you step forward

01:11:30.240 and you pick up the flag

01:11:31.340 and you're in the paintings

01:11:32.160 and all that kind of stuff

01:11:32.940 it's a lot harder

01:11:33.660 to be the good person

01:11:34.320 who is actually making

01:11:35.560 the daily sacrifices

01:11:36.400 to make the world work

01:11:37.400 and the truth is

01:11:38.700 that for the vast majority

01:11:39.900 of human history

01:11:40.520 it was men

01:11:41.840 were the people

01:11:42.820 who were in the position

01:11:43.440 to be the great men

01:11:44.300 women were not in the position

01:11:45.320 to be the quote unquote

01:11:45.900 great women

01:11:46.300 but it was women

01:11:46.920 who made the world work

01:11:47.800 of course

01:11:48.200 because women make

01:11:48.760 every homework

01:11:49.500 they make every civilization

01:11:50.460 work

01:11:50.820 and ignoring that

01:11:51.780 is to ignore the historic

01:11:52.580 like one of the problems

01:11:54.020 I have with feminism

01:11:54.560 is that it actually

01:11:55.660 ignores the contributions

01:11:56.680 that women made

01:11:57.340 to western civilization

01:11:58.220 over history

01:11:58.860 it's like oh yeah

01:11:59.680 you guys

01:12:00.020 like they actually agree

01:12:01.080 with the statement

01:12:01.560 that you were making

01:12:02.120 half facetiously

01:12:02.860 that men created everything

01:12:04.040 like yeah you guys

01:12:04.760 created everything

01:12:05.380 all the good

01:12:05.920 all the bad

01:12:06.560 the entire civilization

01:12:07.320 now if you just

01:12:07.860 give us all the power

01:12:08.680 then we'll change everything

01:12:09.600 it's like no

01:12:10.040 you guys were equal partners

01:12:11.460 that is the joke

01:12:12.320 that is the joke

01:12:13.100 once you impose

01:12:14.020 male values on everybody

01:12:15.340 men win

01:12:16.320 you know once you do that

01:12:17.260 that's right

01:12:17.580 we should point out too though

01:12:18.980 in the realm of political power

01:12:20.560 perhaps the most famous politicians

01:12:23.580 political leaders ever

01:12:24.820 were women

01:12:25.600 Elizabeth I

01:12:26.480 Queen Victoria

01:12:27.320 Catherine in Russia

01:12:28.300 I mean they're

01:12:28.920 they actually

01:12:29.540 women did have a

01:12:30.660 a fair share of governance

01:12:32.480 and in many cases

01:12:33.680 glorious governance

01:12:34.660 that just that is ignored

01:12:36.380 I guess by a feminist ideology

01:12:38.200 it's also sometimes

01:12:38.940 missed by us

01:12:39.660 and it probably

01:12:40.220 shouldn't be

01:12:41.060 that women are

01:12:42.560 smarter than feminists

01:12:43.540 that women in this country

01:12:45.720 have 53% of the population

01:12:48.680 is women

01:12:49.020 as you say

01:12:49.380 they have a 15 point spread

01:12:50.600 in terms of the electoral vote

01:12:52.040 which means they have

01:12:53.020 if they chose to marshal it

01:12:54.400 as in a monolithic way

01:12:55.620 100% of political power

01:12:57.280 I often think it's funny

01:12:58.320 when people say

01:12:58.980 if we had

01:13:00.260 if we were truly

01:13:01.860 an equitable society

01:13:03.080 then women would have

01:13:04.580 53% of representatives

01:13:06.280 in Congress

01:13:06.900 and men would have 47

01:13:08.200 and I always say

01:13:08.980 you don't actually know

01:13:10.120 how electoral democracy

01:13:11.020 democracies work

01:13:11.560 because if

01:13:12.680 all women voted for women

01:13:14.420 it wouldn't be that

01:13:15.480 53% of Congress

01:13:16.860 would be women

01:13:17.420 all of Congress

01:13:19.000 would be women

01:13:19.600 because the majority

01:13:20.380 would win

01:13:21.120 every single race

01:13:23.060 right

01:13:23.240 but fortunately

01:13:24.300 women are smarter

01:13:25.440 than feminists

01:13:26.100 and women aren't just

01:13:27.740 trying to create

01:13:29.000 this false equality

01:13:30.460 in the world

01:13:31.660 women are using

01:13:32.900 their votes

01:13:33.380 they use them

01:13:33.840 more than men do

01:13:34.600 and they don't just

01:13:35.980 use them in these

01:13:36.800 sort of brainless

01:13:37.860 identity politics

01:13:39.060 feminist ways

01:13:41.740 they use them

01:13:42.360 to elect people

01:13:43.260 who they think

01:13:43.680 are going to do

01:13:44.100 a good job

01:13:45.080 and that results

01:13:45.880 in a world

01:13:46.580 that again

01:13:48.180 have there been

01:13:48.920 historic injustices

01:13:49.820 of course there have been

01:13:50.760 if you go back

01:13:51.640 and say

01:13:52.140 I mean up in

01:13:53.200 the early days

01:13:55.000 of the 20th century

01:13:55.740 women couldn't vote

01:13:56.540 and I would say yes

01:13:57.620 and if we were in

01:13:58.180 the early days

01:13:58.700 of the 20th century

01:13:59.520 that would be

01:14:00.220 a compelling argument

01:14:01.020 for why things are wrong

01:14:02.000 but of course

01:14:03.300 as time has gone by

01:14:04.980 we've done a fairly

01:14:06.320 good job of extending

01:14:07.220 the benefits

01:14:07.820 of our free society

01:14:09.600 to previously

01:14:11.060 underrepresented people

01:14:12.080 and fortunately

01:14:13.560 on top of that

01:14:14.320 women have stewarded

01:14:15.600 that in a fairly

01:14:16.140 good way

01:14:16.660 and haven't

01:14:17.840 embraced this

01:14:19.020 now it's our turn

01:14:20.380 we're going to kick

01:14:21.300 all the men

01:14:21.680 to the curb

01:14:22.180 I mean

01:14:22.960 liberal feminist women

01:14:24.420 have that point of view

01:14:26.180 but the majority

01:14:26.920 of women who vote

01:14:27.600 don't

01:14:27.780 it's a bigger point

01:14:28.940 also about activists

01:14:29.900 versus people

01:14:30.680 like when you take

01:14:31.760 feminists versus women

01:14:32.880 gay activists

01:14:33.920 versus gay people

01:14:34.740 black activists

01:14:35.460 versus black people

01:14:36.260 it really

01:14:36.900 they really give

01:14:37.640 the people they represent

01:14:39.140 or pretend to represent

01:14:40.480 a terrible name

01:14:41.500 because these activists

01:14:42.200 are the worst

01:14:42.880 of the group

01:14:44.020 almost always

01:14:44.860 and the majority

01:14:46.260 of the people

01:14:46.760 are often times

01:14:47.800 incredibly smart

01:14:49.620 and incredibly

01:14:50.300 commonsensical

01:14:51.760 and I think that's true

01:14:52.500 of all of them

01:14:52.940 well they're people

01:14:53.240 who have ties

01:14:53.700 to other members

01:14:54.300 of the civilization

01:14:55.000 activists are

01:14:55.740 their own little bubble

01:14:56.580 that's right

01:14:57.020 and that means

01:14:57.580 that they're only

01:14:57.960 associated with

01:14:58.500 members of the bubble

01:14:59.000 and everybody else

01:14:59.620 is the out group

01:15:00.220 for them to fight

01:15:00.840 going back to

01:15:01.700 what you said

01:15:02.340 by the way

01:15:02.700 about men giving

01:15:03.620 women power

01:15:04.300 which is also true

01:15:05.140 of Protestants

01:15:05.920 giving Catholics power

01:15:06.920 and you know

01:15:07.740 and Christians

01:15:08.840 giving people

01:15:10.200 of other religions power

01:15:11.240 if a little bit

01:15:12.780 of gratitude

01:15:13.340 were injected

01:15:14.000 into the civilization

01:15:14.820 I can't see

01:15:15.880 how that would be

01:15:16.380 a bad thing

01:15:16.960 I can't see

01:15:17.580 how the idea

01:15:18.200 should be

01:15:18.640 we're here now

01:15:19.720 and you're the old people

01:15:20.640 and you should get out

01:15:21.240 I can't see why

01:15:21.940 it's not thank you

01:15:22.600 very much

01:15:22.960 for letting us in

01:15:23.700 great ideas

01:15:24.740 that you came up with

01:15:25.720 and I hope we can

01:15:26.380 participate

01:15:26.840 and add our own

01:15:27.720 great ideas

01:15:28.280 I don't understand

01:15:29.080 why that's not

01:15:29.700 a better idea

01:15:30.360 a better approach

01:15:31.440 yeah the world

01:15:32.160 would be

01:15:32.920 a much better

01:15:33.680 place with some

01:15:34.660 gratitude

01:15:34.960 which is why

01:15:35.660 if you're a man

01:15:36.860 in the world

01:15:37.980 you should be

01:15:38.580 grateful for good

01:15:39.380 women every day

01:15:40.220 not just on one

01:15:41.060 communist holiday

01:15:41.780 every year

01:15:42.680 and if you're

01:15:43.360 a good woman

01:15:43.880 you should be

01:15:44.280 grateful for all

01:15:44.800 the stuff

01:15:45.560 all the machines

01:15:48.140 I'm mostly grateful

01:15:49.840 for Captain Marvel

01:15:50.820 and I'm grateful

01:15:51.620 that you made him

01:15:52.140 watch it

01:15:52.500 Captain Marvel

01:15:53.580 I'll save you guys

01:15:55.140 if you don't want to go

01:15:55.840 I mean you know

01:15:56.340 I'll be very honest

01:15:57.260 I hate the genre

01:15:58.380 I despise the genre

01:15:59.540 I liked Dark Knight

01:16:00.760 and Logan

01:16:01.260 those are the two

01:16:01.900 superhero movies

01:16:02.620 I like

01:16:03.000 so I'm putting that

01:16:04.160 out there

01:16:04.460 at least you picked

01:16:04.940 two good ones

01:16:05.480 two good ones

01:16:06.060 I've seen most

01:16:07.840 of these movies

01:16:08.460 probably at least

01:16:09.040 half of them

01:16:09.620 this movie was

01:16:11.840 subpar

01:16:12.880 even by the genre

01:16:14.000 standards

01:16:14.500 the reason is that

01:16:15.480 it was extraordinarily

01:16:16.500 boring

01:16:17.200 it had no stakes

01:16:18.640 whatsoever

01:16:19.120 and it had a

01:16:19.820 female superhero

01:16:20.520 and it had this

01:16:20.980 damn female superhero

01:16:21.860 what the hell

01:16:21.960 was that about

01:16:22.500 and because it had

01:16:24.020 this feminist

01:16:24.980 ideology injected into it

01:16:27.100 the problem with the

01:16:28.200 feminist superhero

01:16:29.080 is she can't do

01:16:31.040 anything wrong

01:16:31.680 she's just perfect

01:16:32.800 it's like Superman

01:16:33.620 without the kryptonite

01:16:34.600 she starts out awesome

01:16:36.200 she ends awesomer

01:16:37.460 so there's never

01:16:38.400 any stakes whatsoever

01:16:39.600 and the movie itself

01:16:41.720 had no story

01:16:43.680 I mean there was

01:16:44.200 no storyline

01:16:45.900 there was no narrative

01:16:46.820 whatsoever

01:16:47.260 it was so tedious

01:16:48.680 it was so boring

01:16:49.620 by the genre standards

01:16:51.440 it was only like

01:16:52.160 30% worse

01:16:53.240 than most of these

01:16:54.260 formulaic movies

01:16:55.140 but it was

01:16:56.040 30% worse

01:16:57.080 and they say

01:16:57.960 that only male critics

01:16:58.880 are knocking the movie

01:16:59.700 that is not true

01:17:01.020 major female critics

01:17:02.260 are knocking the movie

01:17:03.040 it's just bad

01:17:04.300 and it tells you

01:17:04.800 a lot about our society

01:17:05.780 that Rotten Tomatoes

01:17:07.120 is completely redoing

01:17:09.400 their voting system

01:17:10.720 they're purging

01:17:11.760 negative comments

01:17:12.580 from the board

01:17:13.120 to protect an ideology

01:17:14.760 even through

01:17:16.480 a terrible movie

01:17:17.120 in my own defense

01:17:18.740 I would like to say

01:17:19.460 that I calculated

01:17:20.420 how much longer

01:17:21.560 Knowles has to live

01:17:22.340 and how much longer

01:17:22.820 I have to live

01:17:23.460 and if I had gone to see it

01:17:24.600 it would have been

01:17:24.940 relatively like

01:17:25.620 spending three months

01:17:26.420 in the movie theater

01:17:27.020 yeah

01:17:27.240 well producer Jonathan Hay

01:17:28.160 had a great point

01:17:28.680 about the

01:17:29.060 about the Rotten Tomatoes

01:17:30.220 thing

01:17:30.380 he said

01:17:30.760 amazing that the left

01:17:31.960 will shift

01:17:32.840 the identification

01:17:34.480 required

01:17:35.640 to sound off

01:17:37.600 on Captain Marvel

01:17:38.780 but they're against

01:17:39.380 voter ID

01:17:39.880 which is a great point

01:17:42.720 by the way

01:17:43.160 I mean I haven't seen

01:17:44.000 Captain Marvel yet

01:17:44.700 I do plan on seeing it

01:17:46.240 at some point

01:17:47.180 I'll point out

01:17:48.360 that Wonder Woman

01:17:48.800 was actually a good movie

01:17:49.560 of course

01:17:50.180 oh it was a really good movie

01:17:50.800 Wonder Woman was good

01:17:52.280 because it was not

01:17:52.920 self-consciously feminist

01:17:54.580 meaning this

01:17:55.260 they sort of just assumed

01:17:56.420 that the character

01:17:56.880 is feminist

01:17:57.280 yeah

01:17:57.760 and then Gal Gadot

01:17:58.560 actually plays a woman

01:17:59.380 yeah

01:17:59.840 with you know

01:18:00.240 actual womanly qualities

01:18:01.400 this is my great rip

01:18:02.900 on you know

01:18:03.840 did you see the movie

01:18:04.480 Atomic Blonde

01:18:05.080 with Charlize Theron

01:18:06.020 no

01:18:06.380 so basically

01:18:07.220 she plays James Bond

01:18:07.980 but it's like

01:18:08.420 she doesn't just play

01:18:09.500 James Bond

01:18:10.220 like they make her

01:18:10.900 quasi lesbian

01:18:11.740 and all of this stuff

01:18:12.860 and it's legitimately

01:18:14.000 which is you know

01:18:15.220 their prerogative

01:18:15.800 but what is true

01:18:17.240 is that you could have

01:18:17.940 substituted a male

01:18:18.780 for her character

01:18:19.420 would not have changed

01:18:20.140 one line of dialogue

01:18:21.420 for the entire film

01:18:22.620 if that's true

01:18:23.320 you've written a bad movie

01:18:24.120 really

01:18:24.860 because characters

01:18:26.280 are specific

01:18:26.860 the best characters

01:18:27.500 are specific

01:18:27.900 this is my problem

01:18:28.880 with Captain Marvel

01:18:29.680 and it's not a problem

01:18:31.420 with the film

01:18:31.880 I have not seen the film

01:18:32.900 it's a problem

01:18:33.860 with the celebration

01:18:35.560 of Captain Marvel

01:18:36.920 as an archetype

01:18:38.260 for a strong woman

01:18:38.980 and it's that

01:18:40.000 I love Buffy

01:18:41.080 the Vampire Slayer

01:18:41.880 I think Buffy

01:18:42.860 is one of the greatest

01:18:43.600 TV

01:18:44.100 things that has ever

01:18:45.660 happened in the history

01:18:46.300 of television

01:18:47.500 and people would always be

01:18:48.420 she's a strong

01:18:49.280 powerful woman

01:18:50.080 and a great example

01:18:51.080 to little girls everywhere

01:18:51.920 and I thought

01:18:52.260 no into every generation

01:18:54.180 is born a slayer

01:18:54.980 and she's imbued

01:18:55.600 with supernatural powers

01:18:56.780 given to her

01:18:57.740 across the centuries

01:18:58.620 to fight the vampires

01:18:59.460 and it's sort of like

01:19:00.420 the conversation

01:19:00.860 we've had about

01:19:01.560 Black Panther

01:19:02.600 where it's like

01:19:03.360 you know

01:19:04.460 the magic space rock

01:19:05.640 falls down

01:19:06.180 and then Africa

01:19:07.460 got to beat Europe

01:19:08.320 and that's actually

01:19:09.480 kind of a racist premise

01:19:10.460 it's also kind of

01:19:11.540 a sexist premise

01:19:12.540 to me

01:19:12.980 to say

01:19:13.480 women are just as

01:19:14.640 powerful as men

01:19:15.520 if they're given

01:19:16.620 gamma radiation

01:19:17.560 and a secret laser

01:19:18.600 from space

01:19:19.080 and magic

01:19:19.940 like

01:19:20.160 I see Buffy

01:19:21.200 as a great story

01:19:22.220 with a female lead

01:19:23.720 and that might be

01:19:24.740 novel and interesting

01:19:25.560 to women

01:19:26.500 but

01:19:27.080 Buffy can fight men

01:19:29.880 because Buffy

01:19:31.420 has supernatural powers

01:19:32.420 and Captain Marvel

01:19:33.280 can fight men

01:19:34.020 because Captain Marvel

01:19:35.760 has supernatural powers

01:19:37.120 Superman

01:19:37.820 can stop a bullet

01:19:39.120 not because he's a man

01:19:40.220 it's because he's super

01:19:41.320 and so

01:19:42.040 I'm not supposed to

01:19:43.020 look to Superman

01:19:43.680 and go

01:19:44.260 that's just proof

01:19:45.500 that all men

01:19:46.240 are more powerful

01:19:46.880 than a locomotive

01:19:47.580 there is a kernel

01:19:51.540 of an interesting idea

01:19:52.780 in Captain Marvel

01:19:53.680 this is not spoilers

01:19:54.880 because I think

01:19:55.620 this was even

01:19:56.060 in some of the previews

01:19:56.720 very early in the movie

01:19:57.540 physically

01:19:58.620 she's not as strong

01:20:00.720 as the men

01:20:01.120 she can't

01:20:01.660 jump the rope

01:20:02.500 or whatever

01:20:02.900 and actually

01:20:03.960 the main problem

01:20:04.780 she has

01:20:05.420 is she gets too emotional

01:20:06.880 and her emotions

01:20:07.580 run away with her

01:20:08.400 and it's actually

01:20:09.320 making a sort of

01:20:10.360 a comment on sex

01:20:11.300 and the real problem

01:20:12.740 facing her

01:20:13.340 is pride

01:20:14.340 this is

01:20:15.580 quite interesting

01:20:16.700 this is something

01:20:17.260 that we all face

01:20:18.020 because she keeps

01:20:18.640 trying to do

01:20:19.160 people will warn her

01:20:20.080 against

01:20:20.520 you can't make that

01:20:22.100 jump

01:20:22.400 or you can't make that

01:20:23.240 and she'll do it

01:20:24.480 anyway out of pride

01:20:25.140 yeah

01:20:25.440 and there was

01:20:26.640 that little kernel

01:20:27.420 there that really

01:20:28.120 could have made

01:20:28.560 Captain Marvel

01:20:29.140 pretty good

01:20:29.800 and they just

01:20:30.780 overwhelmed it

01:20:32.520 with boring story

01:20:34.720 tedious slogans

01:20:36.060 ideology

01:20:36.480 and it was weak

01:20:37.660 it actually could have

01:20:38.800 probably been

01:20:39.500 a pretty good movie

01:20:40.120 it's kind of

01:20:40.560 a sad thing

01:20:41.680 that we fight

01:20:42.280 over these stories

01:20:43.080 as if it mattered

01:20:43.820 I mean this is

01:20:44.460 the new theory

01:20:45.320 basically

01:20:45.800 on the materialist

01:20:47.540 left

01:20:47.920 is that

01:20:48.340 everything we have

01:20:49.780 as human beings

01:20:50.820 is based on stories

01:20:51.900 this is kind of

01:20:52.360 the Yuval Harari

01:20:53.280 idea

01:20:54.320 that nations

01:20:56.240 are a story

01:20:56.880 money is a fiction

01:20:58.160 human rights

01:20:59.540 are a fiction

01:20:59.940 God is a fiction

01:21:01.360 and these are

01:21:02.100 just stories

01:21:02.800 that we tell

01:21:03.400 and they create

01:21:04.140 something real

01:21:04.940 because we all

01:21:06.040 agree with them

01:21:06.860 and therefore

01:21:07.480 it matters

01:21:08.100 these stories

01:21:09.000 somehow

01:21:09.540 are much more

01:21:10.160 important than you think

01:21:11.020 somehow

01:21:11.520 you know

01:21:12.360 I thought Wonder Woman

01:21:13.200 was a good picture

01:21:13.780 too

01:21:13.980 I really enjoyed it

01:21:14.780 but women

01:21:15.420 critics

01:21:16.500 intellectuals

01:21:17.620 cried at that movie

01:21:18.720 as if it somehow

01:21:19.500 changed the estate

01:21:20.660 of women

01:21:21.040 and that's just not true

01:21:22.620 that is not the way

01:21:23.500 stories work

01:21:24.200 and it's not the effect

01:21:25.240 that stories have

01:21:26.020 that was my take

01:21:27.180 on Black Panther

01:21:27.680 and people got really

01:21:28.500 uptight about it

01:21:29.080 my blowback on Black Panther

01:21:30.400 was not that it was

01:21:30.940 a bad movie

01:21:31.360 I thought it was a fine movie

01:21:32.140 I enjoyed it honestly

01:21:34.240 but I had some problems

01:21:36.340 with some basic concepts

01:21:37.500 in it

01:21:38.600 again

01:21:39.140 the very notion

01:21:40.420 that natural resources

01:21:41.440 are the rationale

01:21:42.060 for civilizations growing

01:21:43.640 is not

01:21:44.440 I think a very good one

01:21:45.420 but with that said

01:21:46.700 my real problem

01:21:48.160 was all the lead up

01:21:49.160 to it

01:21:49.560 as though

01:21:50.220 like Black people

01:21:51.100 in the United States

01:21:51.680 finally had been empowered

01:21:52.840 by this movie

01:21:53.820 with a bunch of Black people

01:21:56.160 playing superheroes

01:21:56.860 it's like

01:21:57.540 if you're finding

01:21:58.220 your meaning

01:21:58.720 in superhero movies

01:22:00.180 to the extent

01:22:00.740 that you feel

01:22:01.300 that your entire

01:22:02.600 that the entire

01:22:03.380 history of race

01:22:04.420 in America

01:22:04.800 has been deeply affected

01:22:05.940 by a superhero movie

01:22:07.420 in 2019

01:22:08.160 let me suggest

01:22:09.780 that you enter

01:22:10.220 the real world

01:22:10.860 for a second

01:22:11.300 and I would say

01:22:11.800 the same thing

01:22:12.360 about a Jewish superhero

01:22:13.440 I mean this is not

01:22:14.600 race specific

01:22:15.300 but people got so angry

01:22:16.820 at this

01:22:17.080 it was like

01:22:17.320 how dare you

01:22:17.920 take this away

01:22:18.480 from people

01:22:18.760 you're just mad

01:22:19.240 there's a black superhero

01:22:19.760 I don't care

01:22:20.140 if there's a black superhero

01:22:20.780 that's my point

01:22:21.400 my whole point is

01:22:22.320 I don't care

01:22:22.600 if there's a black superhero

01:22:23.420 that's great

01:22:24.020 that's fine

01:22:24.340 who cares

01:22:24.720 I think that's exactly right

01:22:26.260 and the fact that people

01:22:26.940 are fighting over this

01:22:27.780 first of all

01:22:28.260 shows that they don't

01:22:29.600 have enough to do

01:22:30.300 this is my favorite thing

01:22:32.580 is when people forecast

01:22:33.400 opposition that isn't there

01:22:34.680 when they're like

01:22:35.320 oh look at all these guys

01:22:36.260 who are really angry

01:22:37.080 at Captain Marvel

01:22:37.660 you're angry aren't you

01:22:38.680 you're like no

01:22:39.060 no you're pissed

01:22:40.540 I can tell you're pissed

01:22:41.580 and you're like

01:22:41.880 no I'm really not

01:22:42.780 that's a good 50%

01:22:43.760 of leftist argument

01:22:44.560 it's like all of it

01:22:45.860 these days

01:22:46.260 all of it

01:22:46.820 this assumption

01:22:47.720 that you're angry

01:22:48.440 and they're like

01:22:49.140 nope

01:22:49.380 pretty much not angry

01:22:50.700 at that

01:22:50.980 I'm pissed that Brie Larson

01:22:52.280 insults 50% of the audience

01:22:53.920 and I'm pissed that

01:22:55.460 Marvel insults

01:22:56.400 the entire audience

01:22:57.820 by acting like

01:22:58.740 they're making history

01:22:59.500 the fact that there's

01:23:00.960 a female Captain Marvel

01:23:01.800 doesn't bother me

01:23:02.420 in the slightest

01:23:02.820 right

01:23:03.080 I'm mostly pissed

01:23:04.300 that Marvel thinks

01:23:04.840 they can get away

01:23:05.240 with this crap

01:23:05.740 where they pretend

01:23:06.320 they killed Spider-Man

01:23:07.160 what kind of nonsense

01:23:09.200 was that

01:23:09.700 by the way

01:23:10.020 anyone who cried

01:23:10.580 at the end of Avengers

01:23:11.320 anyone who cried

01:23:12.280 at the end of Avengers

01:23:13.120 you're an idiot

01:23:13.820 if you cried at the end

01:23:16.180 of Avengers Infinity War

01:23:17.280 the minute they killed

01:23:18.360 Black Panther

01:23:18.900 if you were crying

01:23:19.720 you are so stupid man

01:23:21.380 you are so stupid

01:23:22.500 I actually loved

01:23:23.400 I loved Infinity War

01:23:24.560 I think it was

01:23:25.460 a fundamental mistake

01:23:27.780 by the filmmakers

01:23:28.940 to kill Spider-Man

01:23:30.200 and Black Panther

01:23:30.720 of course

01:23:31.100 everyone else who died

01:23:32.720 you could have been like

01:23:33.940 oh maybe it's real

01:23:34.820 it is the big Marvel reset

01:23:36.140 maybe they're really

01:23:36.800 going to kill these people

01:23:37.420 and then they kill off

01:23:38.140 two of their billion dollar

01:23:39.120 industries

01:23:39.480 and you're like

01:23:39.900 well you guys

01:23:40.720 are just lying to me

01:23:41.420 so I do want to go

01:23:43.100 for one more round

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01:24:08.840 some questions

01:24:09.320 from some of our

01:24:10.420 fair subscribers

01:24:11.540 Alicia what do you got

01:24:12.220 for us

01:24:12.560 she's already giving birth

01:24:13.420 what is she doing

01:24:15.860 oh just

01:24:17.020 just making a nice

01:24:17.980 little tea

01:24:18.460 wow

01:24:18.960 I love

01:24:20.920 International Women's Day

01:24:21.880 oh hey guys

01:24:22.840 I'm just

01:24:24.120 you know

01:24:24.900 if I'm going to be

01:24:25.360 stuck in the kitchen

01:24:26.020 I figure I'd make

01:24:26.640 myself a hot toddy

01:24:27.680 Alicia you can't drink

01:24:30.480 when you're pregnant

01:24:31.240 tell that to

01:24:33.180 Betty Draper

01:24:33.920 I mean come on

01:24:34.920 we do have questions

01:24:38.380 from more subscribers

01:24:39.380 Nicole wants to know

01:24:40.600 do you think the key

01:24:41.400 to having a successful

01:24:42.340 business is to start

01:24:43.480 it in your garage

01:24:44.380 or might I

01:24:45.220 Alicia add

01:24:46.060 the God King's

01:24:47.060 pool house

01:24:47.620 it was definitely

01:24:49.200 the key to us

01:24:49.840 having a successful

01:24:50.520 business

01:24:51.000 no I think that

01:24:52.500 the key to having

01:24:53.140 a successful business

01:24:54.140 is to start

01:24:55.020 wherever you can

01:24:55.860 and the key to

01:24:56.960 having a successful

01:24:57.580 business is to

01:24:58.260 understand that

01:24:58.780 not all of your

01:24:59.280 businesses will be

01:25:00.000 successful

01:25:00.480 almost everyone

01:25:01.660 who's successful

01:25:02.480 in business

01:25:03.120 has failed

01:25:04.220 at business

01:25:05.020 business is very

01:25:05.800 hard

01:25:06.180 it's sort of

01:25:07.060 I've made this

01:25:07.860 joke on the show

01:25:08.420 before

01:25:08.740 I hate it when

01:25:09.560 guys leave the

01:25:10.300 hospital

01:25:10.680 after having

01:25:11.800 their first child

01:25:12.520 and they've got

01:25:12.940 the world's

01:25:13.320 greatest dad

01:25:13.840 ball cap

01:25:14.320 and I always

01:25:15.100 think you're

01:25:15.340 not even a

01:25:15.780 mediocre father

01:25:16.560 you've been a

01:25:17.480 father for

01:25:17.960 literally hours

01:25:19.000 like there's

01:25:19.720 got to be more

01:25:20.380 that you're

01:25:20.700 going to have

01:25:20.980 to learn

01:25:21.440 than what you

01:25:22.160 have acquired

01:25:22.700 at the gift

01:25:23.240 shop

01:25:23.560 and of course

01:25:26.180 it's the same

01:25:26.700 with business

01:25:27.200 you're going

01:25:28.100 to learn

01:25:28.360 an awful

01:25:28.880 lot

01:25:29.360 when you

01:25:30.340 set about

01:25:31.200 to be in

01:25:31.740 business

01:25:32.020 you're going

01:25:32.360 to fail

01:25:32.760 you're going

01:25:33.040 to have

01:25:33.160 to get

01:25:33.320 back up

01:25:33.700 you have

01:25:33.940 to learn

01:25:34.220 from your

01:25:34.640 mistakes

01:25:35.740 where should

01:25:36.760 you do it

01:25:37.240 in your

01:25:37.900 garage

01:25:38.240 sure if you've

01:25:38.800 got an idea

01:25:39.180 that can start

01:25:39.600 in your garage

01:25:39.960 not every idea

01:25:40.640 can

01:25:40.980 some ideas

01:25:41.740 require seed

01:25:42.420 capital

01:25:42.780 they require

01:25:43.260 angel investors

01:25:43.980 they require

01:25:44.580 larger amounts

01:25:45.380 of capital

01:25:46.480 than can be

01:25:47.040 sort of acquired

01:25:47.680 at those levels

01:25:48.360 and you're

01:25:48.680 not going to

01:25:49.480 take 20 million

01:25:50.760 dollars worth

01:25:51.320 of investment

01:25:51.720 capital

01:25:52.140 and start

01:25:52.980 something in

01:25:53.400 your garage

01:25:53.900 every business

01:25:54.840 is unique

01:25:55.440 every opportunity

01:25:56.200 is unique

01:25:56.780 I have

01:25:57.720 I have a speech

01:25:58.500 that I give

01:26:00.300 to young

01:26:00.800 typically it's

01:26:01.440 young people

01:26:01.800 who move

01:26:02.080 to Hollywood

01:26:02.580 because they

01:26:03.260 want to make

01:26:03.840 it in the

01:26:04.220 in the movies

01:26:04.840 and they're all

01:26:06.420 everybody who moves

01:26:07.260 out here is looking

01:26:07.780 for the same

01:26:08.260 wisdom

01:26:08.860 they want to

01:26:09.240 know how

01:26:09.920 do I make

01:26:10.560 it

01:26:10.720 and when I

01:26:11.420 moved out

01:26:11.740 I had the

01:26:12.060 same thought

01:26:12.360 like if I

01:26:12.680 could meet

01:26:12.960 Steven Spielberg

01:26:13.640 he could tell

01:26:14.360 me how to

01:26:15.000 make movies

01:26:16.180 I thought I'm

01:26:17.080 a smart guy

01:26:17.600 he could tell

01:26:18.100 me then I

01:26:18.480 could do it

01:26:18.940 and what I

01:26:19.920 came to realize

01:26:20.480 over time

01:26:20.900 is that if I

01:26:21.280 ever got that

01:26:21.740 meeting with

01:26:22.160 Spielberg

01:26:22.640 I'd go up

01:26:23.420 to him and

01:26:23.620 I'd be like

01:26:23.960 Mr. Spielberg

01:26:25.620 long time

01:26:26.480 listener

01:26:26.700 first time

01:26:27.020 caller

01:26:27.200 how do I

01:26:28.020 make a movie

01:26:28.660 and he would

01:26:29.540 say oh

01:26:30.080 making a movie

01:26:30.640 is easy

01:26:30.960 so here's

01:26:31.920 what I do

01:26:32.280 I read a book

01:26:33.660 or a magazine

01:26:34.120 article that I

01:26:34.720 really respond

01:26:35.300 to and I

01:26:36.420 call up my

01:26:36.840 lawyer and I

01:26:37.480 say hey

01:26:37.860 are the rights

01:26:38.560 available to

01:26:39.100 this

01:26:39.320 they say hey

01:26:40.140 we'll kick

01:26:40.460 it around

01:26:40.740 we'll dig

01:26:41.020 for it

01:26:41.260 they call

01:26:41.480 me back

01:26:41.860 a week

01:26:42.300 later

01:26:42.500 we track

01:26:43.300 down the

01:26:43.620 author

01:26:43.880 the rights

01:26:44.940 are available

01:26:45.420 they're going

01:26:45.720 to cost about

01:26:46.080 a million

01:26:46.360 dollars

01:26:46.700 I'm like

01:26:46.960 great

01:26:47.180 pick it up

01:26:47.680 so we write

01:26:48.980 a check

01:26:49.220 for a million

01:26:49.520 dollars

01:26:49.780 we get

01:26:50.000 the rights

01:26:50.280 to the

01:26:50.440 book

01:26:50.620 then I

01:26:51.100 say well

01:26:51.280 I'm going

01:26:51.480 to need

01:26:51.640 a screen

01:26:51.980 writer

01:26:52.220 so I

01:26:53.140 call up

01:26:53.660 my agents

01:26:54.440 over at

01:26:54.800 CAA

01:26:55.140 and they

01:26:55.580 go look

01:26:55.920 for a good

01:26:56.300 screen writer

01:26:56.820 we set up

01:26:57.800 a bunch

01:26:58.040 of meetings

01:26:58.380 I meet

01:26:58.620 with a bunch

01:26:58.940 of guys

01:26:59.360 I hire

01:27:00.080 a guy

01:27:00.460 who had

01:27:00.920 a great

01:27:01.320 hit last

01:27:01.840 year

01:27:02.060 one of the

01:27:02.400 biggest

01:27:02.680 hits

01:27:03.380 at the

01:27:03.580 box office

01:27:04.040 I pay

01:27:04.340 him a million

01:27:04.720 dollars

01:27:05.040 to write

01:27:05.320 a draft

01:27:05.620 of the script

01:27:06.020 he comes

01:27:06.660 back six

01:27:07.100 months later

01:27:07.520 I read

01:27:07.860 the script

01:27:08.180 you know

01:27:08.600 it's not

01:27:08.880 what I

01:27:09.080 was hoping

01:27:09.440 for

01:27:09.700 so I go

01:27:10.400 to number

01:27:10.680 two on

01:27:19.780 my

01:27:20.560 partners

01:27:21.420 over at

01:27:21.760 Universal

01:27:22.040 and I

01:27:22.340 say hey

01:27:22.560 you know

01:27:22.800 that first

01:27:23.540 look deal

01:27:23.860 that I've

01:27:24.140 got where

01:27:24.400 you have

01:27:24.640 to guarantee

01:27:25.080 4,500

01:27:25.720 screens

01:27:26.600 for one

01:27:27.560 movie for

01:27:28.020 me every

01:27:28.440 year

01:27:28.620 because I'm

01:27:28.960 Steven Spielberg

01:27:29.480 and they

01:27:29.660 go yeah

01:27:29.960 and I go

01:27:30.260 have I

01:27:30.700 got the

01:27:31.160 movie for

01:27:31.520 you

01:27:31.680 and they're

01:27:32.200 like okay

01:27:32.720 cool

01:27:33.000 we'll open

01:27:33.580 it on

01:27:33.780 4,500

01:27:34.220 screens

01:27:34.640 so then I

01:27:35.180 call my

01:27:35.500 business

01:27:35.800 partners

01:27:36.160 over at

01:27:36.500 DreamWorks

01:27:36.880 and I'm

01:27:37.060 like we're

01:27:37.540 going to

01:27:37.700 need

01:27:37.820 180

01:27:38.300 million

01:27:38.660 dollars

01:27:38.940 to make

01:27:39.280 this

01:27:39.480 they say

01:27:40.080 cool

01:27:40.320 we'll

01:27:40.540 architect

01:27:40.840 half of

01:27:41.320 it out

01:27:41.800 of our

01:27:42.000 domestic

01:27:42.300 fund

01:27:42.600 then we'll

01:27:43.180 go to a

01:27:43.560 bank in

01:27:43.880 India

01:27:44.100 and put

01:27:44.360 the rest

01:27:44.660 together

01:27:45.000 and before

01:27:45.700 you know

01:27:46.000 it three

01:27:46.300 years later

01:27:46.720 I'm on a

01:27:47.240 set with

01:27:47.580 250 employees

01:27:48.580 and I'm

01:27:48.880 making a

01:27:49.180 movie

01:27:49.360 and I'd

01:27:49.920 go that's

01:27:50.340 awesome

01:27:50.640 Steven Spielberg

01:27:51.280 how do I

01:27:52.100 make a

01:27:52.440 movie

01:27:52.620 and he'd

01:27:53.080 go oh

01:27:53.500 how do

01:27:53.760 you make

01:27:54.100 a movie

01:27:54.420 how the

01:27:54.780 hell would

01:27:55.060 I know

01:27:55.760 how you're

01:27:56.840 gonna make

01:27:57.180 a movie

01:27:57.580 zero percent

01:27:59.140 of that

01:27:59.440 applies

01:27:59.860 right

01:28:00.120 so I

01:28:01.340 always give

01:28:01.680 a speech

01:28:02.040 to young

01:28:02.400 people in

01:28:03.060 Hollywood

01:28:03.380 and it

01:28:03.960 applies to

01:28:04.440 people in

01:28:04.840 business

01:28:05.160 too

01:28:05.420 and it's

01:28:06.120 this it's

01:28:06.540 all my

01:28:06.860 accumulated

01:28:07.380 wisdom

01:28:07.780 and it's

01:28:08.940 about those

01:28:09.460 who do

01:28:09.900 and those

01:28:10.660 who don't

01:28:11.060 do

01:28:11.280 and what I

01:28:12.300 have observed

01:28:12.800 having lived

01:28:13.500 on this life

01:28:14.120 a fair bit

01:28:14.620 now

01:28:14.900 gotten a few

01:28:15.680 gray hairs

01:28:16.320 met people

01:28:17.180 who've

01:28:17.580 started podcasts

01:28:19.000 in my full

01:28:19.460 house and

01:28:19.940 become the

01:28:21.400 biggest podcasters

01:28:22.300 in the country

01:28:23.180 I have friends

01:28:24.180 who star in

01:28:24.900 these big

01:28:25.260 superhero movies

01:28:26.000 that we talk

01:28:26.500 about

01:28:26.720 I have friends

01:28:27.680 who started

01:28:28.660 businesses worth

01:28:29.360 hundreds of

01:28:29.780 millions of

01:28:30.120 dollars

01:28:30.380 I have friends

01:28:31.280 who still

01:28:31.780 wait tables

01:28:32.320 I have people

01:28:33.160 friends who

01:28:33.600 washed out

01:28:34.120 and moved

01:28:34.400 back home

01:28:34.900 I have friends

01:28:35.840 who found

01:28:36.300 other things

01:28:37.000 like me

01:28:37.600 to do

01:28:38.480 that weren't

01:28:38.980 what they

01:28:39.260 originally

01:28:39.660 anticipated

01:28:40.260 but they've

01:28:41.200 gone on

01:28:41.500 and have

01:28:41.820 had successes

01:28:42.600 I know

01:28:43.800 somebody

01:28:44.320 who's done

01:28:44.900 it all

01:28:45.220 and what I

01:28:46.780 have discovered

01:28:47.180 is that the

01:28:47.620 difference between

01:28:48.300 those who do

01:28:49.120 and those who

01:28:49.980 don't do

01:28:50.460 is that those

01:28:51.500 who do

01:28:52.120 do

01:28:53.040 and those

01:28:54.080 who don't

01:28:54.560 do

01:28:54.860 don't do

01:28:56.040 and when I

01:28:57.160 give this

01:28:57.580 advice

01:28:58.000 people are

01:28:58.840 so disappointed

01:28:59.860 because it

01:29:01.160 doesn't satisfy

01:29:02.120 because what

01:29:03.240 you're looking

01:29:03.740 for the thing

01:29:04.400 that would

01:29:04.640 satisfy you

01:29:05.380 does not

01:29:06.240 exist

01:29:06.660 there is

01:29:07.380 only

01:29:07.860 those who

01:29:08.780 do

01:29:09.020 do

01:29:09.360 and those

01:29:10.220 who don't

01:29:10.660 do

01:29:10.940 don't do

01:29:11.660 and the truth

01:29:12.740 is you usually

01:29:14.060 know those

01:29:14.820 who do

01:29:15.340 long before

01:29:16.260 they have

01:29:16.640 done

01:29:16.940 like I have

01:29:18.580 a pretty good

01:29:19.020 average now

01:29:19.540 of being able

01:29:19.960 to size

01:29:20.420 somebody up

01:29:20.980 and determine

01:29:21.500 will they

01:29:22.080 do

01:29:22.440 it may be

01:29:23.760 a decade

01:29:24.180 before they

01:29:24.720 do

01:29:24.980 but they're

01:29:26.260 doers

01:29:26.760 and they're

01:29:27.340 doing

01:29:27.700 and those

01:29:28.580 who do

01:29:29.160 do

01:29:29.960 what does

01:29:30.720 it mean

01:29:31.060 it means

01:29:31.500 they do

01:29:31.820 whatever

01:29:32.140 they're

01:29:33.260 always

01:29:33.660 doing

01:29:34.000 they're

01:29:34.600 learning

01:29:34.860 from the

01:29:35.200 things

01:29:35.380 that they've

01:29:35.720 done

01:29:35.940 and trying

01:29:36.340 to do

01:29:36.780 something

01:29:37.580 else

01:29:37.880 they're

01:29:38.220 not waiting

01:29:38.780 by the

01:29:39.140 phone

01:29:39.360 for an agent

01:29:39.860 to call

01:29:40.240 them

01:29:40.360 they're

01:29:40.520 not waiting

01:29:40.900 by the

01:29:41.280 phone

01:29:41.580 for somebody

01:29:42.520 to discover

01:29:43.000 them

01:29:43.320 down at the

01:29:44.280 soda shop

01:29:45.020 and cast

01:29:45.720 them

01:29:45.920 you're the

01:29:46.220 next big

01:29:46.620 thing

01:29:46.840 kid

01:29:47.020 they're

01:29:47.520 out there

01:29:47.800 making

01:29:48.180 their way

01:29:48.740 and the

01:29:49.260 other thing

01:29:49.600 that they

01:29:49.880 do

01:29:50.200 is they

01:29:50.700 respond

01:29:51.100 to what

01:29:51.420 God

01:29:51.640 brings

01:29:52.020 into their

01:29:52.880 lives

01:29:53.220 they

01:29:53.720 basically

01:29:54.340 take the

01:29:54.780 opportunities

01:29:55.260 that come

01:29:55.900 before them

01:29:56.860 they don't

01:29:57.460 try to

01:29:57.940 will the

01:29:58.700 world

01:29:59.020 into complete

01:29:59.660 conformity

01:30:00.240 with their

01:30:00.900 vision

01:30:01.260 which by

01:30:01.800 the way

01:30:02.080 is a

01:30:02.380 vision

01:30:02.620 that they

01:30:03.080 formed

01:30:03.460 before they

01:30:04.140 had done

01:30:04.440 anything

01:30:04.780 and therefore

01:30:05.420 before they

01:30:06.140 knew

01:30:06.400 anything

01:30:07.180 they are

01:30:07.820 willful

01:30:08.240 people

01:30:08.620 by and large

01:30:09.260 they're strong

01:30:09.720 will

01:30:09.940 let me say

01:30:10.340 it differently

01:30:10.680 they're strong

01:30:11.140 willed people

01:30:11.720 but they have

01:30:12.540 the humility

01:30:13.080 to let God

01:30:14.260 be God

01:30:14.740 and not them

01:30:15.400 and those

01:30:16.080 people do

01:30:16.660 so if you

01:30:17.200 want to be

01:30:17.640 a successful

01:30:18.100 business person

01:30:18.800 you want to

01:30:19.460 make it in

01:30:19.820 the movies

01:30:20.220 you want to

01:30:21.080 be one

01:30:21.400 who does

01:30:22.020 do

01:30:23.480 and that's

01:30:24.760 it

01:30:24.940 that's great

01:30:25.420 advice

01:30:25.900 nothing to add

01:30:27.100 to that

01:30:27.320 my question

01:30:27.840 would be

01:30:28.100 what does

01:30:28.620 Michael Knowles

01:30:29.240 do

01:30:29.560 well

01:30:30.200 some do

01:30:31.160 by not

01:30:31.640 doing

01:30:31.940 I think

01:30:33.900 my book

01:30:34.360 proved

01:30:34.680 speaking of

01:30:37.640 Michael

01:30:37.900 this comes

01:30:38.340 from a

01:30:38.600 subscriber

01:30:38.960 named

01:30:39.220 Michael

01:30:39.580 let's hope

01:30:40.540 that his

01:30:40.840 last name

01:30:41.200 is not

01:30:41.540 Knowles

01:30:41.960 or you've

01:30:42.480 been really

01:30:42.780 busy

01:30:43.040 up there

01:30:43.380 with your

01:30:43.680 phone

01:30:43.960 tweeting

01:30:44.460 away

01:30:45.120 questions

01:30:45.620 he wants

01:30:46.240 to know

01:30:46.480 how can

01:30:46.800 the left

01:30:47.080 and the right

01:30:47.540 converse

01:30:48.180 when they

01:30:48.520 can't even

01:30:48.860 agree on

01:30:49.280 facts

01:30:49.760 I actually

01:30:51.040 think

01:30:51.480 it's a

01:30:52.220 language

01:30:52.560 problem

01:30:53.040 the problem

01:30:54.280 is

01:30:54.680 the only

01:30:55.520 way that

01:30:55.840 you can

01:30:56.100 converse

01:30:56.460 with anybody

01:30:57.020 is if you

01:30:57.720 speak the

01:30:58.140 same language

01:30:58.680 right

01:30:58.940 there is an

01:30:59.280 objective

01:30:59.740 reality

01:31:00.660 outside of

01:31:01.320 two people

01:31:01.820 and you're

01:31:02.360 using words

01:31:03.100 and symbols

01:31:03.600 and always

01:31:03.920 things outside

01:31:04.420 here to make

01:31:05.460 whatever's going

01:31:06.320 on in your

01:31:06.780 head accessible

01:31:08.140 to whatever's

01:31:08.740 going on in

01:31:09.200 somebody else's

01:31:09.820 head and what

01:31:10.460 the left does

01:31:11.320 is it constantly

01:31:12.360 is perverting

01:31:13.200 language

01:31:13.640 it's always

01:31:14.400 undermining

01:31:15.040 language

01:31:15.380 it's inverting

01:31:16.140 language sometimes

01:31:16.960 to mean the

01:31:17.580 opposite of what

01:31:18.160 it actually

01:31:18.560 means

01:31:18.900 they do this

01:31:19.660 famously with

01:31:20.280 justice

01:31:20.720 right justice

01:31:21.380 is now social

01:31:22.360 justice

01:31:22.720 means the

01:31:23.220 opposite of

01:31:23.660 justice

01:31:24.060 political

01:31:24.560 correctness

01:31:25.000 is the

01:31:25.200 opposite

01:31:25.440 of

01:31:25.620 correctness

01:31:26.020 right

01:31:26.180 so what

01:31:26.840 you have

01:31:27.300 to do

01:31:27.620 is be

01:31:28.060 so precise

01:31:29.360 about language

01:31:30.400 when we were

01:31:30.820 at Michigan

01:31:31.180 yesterday

01:31:31.460 I came out

01:31:31.940 to talk to

01:31:32.520 some of the

01:31:32.820 protesters

01:31:33.280 and they had

01:31:34.000 a sign

01:31:34.340 that said

01:31:34.640 trans women

01:31:35.720 are women

01:31:36.680 and I said

01:31:37.380 okay I want

01:31:38.000 to I am not

01:31:38.820 trying to set

01:31:39.300 you up here

01:31:39.760 I want you

01:31:40.860 to explain

01:31:41.440 your point

01:31:41.960 of view

01:31:42.280 we're talking

01:31:43.260 about

01:31:43.600 you use this

01:31:44.180 phrase trans

01:31:44.740 women which

01:31:45.140 is very

01:31:45.800 ambiguous

01:31:46.340 we're talking

01:31:47.360 about somebody

01:31:47.880 born a man

01:31:49.080 has all the

01:31:49.820 male genitals

01:31:50.540 has the male

01:31:51.480 chromosomes

01:31:52.080 had a short

01:31:52.940 haircut when he

01:31:53.400 was a kid

01:31:53.800 now he identifies

01:31:55.400 as a woman

01:31:56.500 should that

01:31:57.340 and as I said

01:31:57.900 the word

01:31:58.140 he said

01:31:58.320 I am not

01:31:59.500 how dare you

01:32:00.320 I will not

01:32:00.920 speak to you

01:32:01.740 if you use

01:32:02.920 that pronoun

01:32:03.700 he

01:32:04.240 to refer

01:32:05.520 to her

01:32:06.920 which used

01:32:08.100 to be him

01:32:08.680 and this person

01:32:09.960 that I was just

01:32:10.420 asking

01:32:10.840 please give

01:32:11.500 a million people

01:32:12.560 will see what

01:32:12.980 you have to say

01:32:13.560 give your point

01:32:14.440 of view

01:32:14.700 he walked

01:32:15.760 away

01:32:16.140 because he

01:32:17.300 refused

01:32:18.240 to converse

01:32:18.880 you can't

01:32:19.320 make somebody

01:32:19.760 come to the

01:32:20.180 table

01:32:20.420 and converse

01:32:21.180 with you

01:32:21.480 the best

01:32:22.240 way that

01:32:22.680 you can

01:32:23.080 try

01:32:23.900 to make

01:32:24.320 yourself

01:32:24.640 understandable

01:32:25.260 make someone

01:32:26.340 else's views

01:32:26.820 understandable

01:32:27.340 is to use

01:32:28.140 really really

01:32:28.860 clear language

01:32:29.680 but if they're

01:32:30.380 unwilling to talk

01:32:31.200 you're not going

01:32:31.820 to make them

01:32:32.140 do it

01:32:32.480 I'm offended

01:32:33.300 that you said that

01:32:34.000 Dan what do you think

01:32:36.480 you talk to a lot of

01:32:37.140 people who disagree

01:32:37.700 with you

01:32:38.080 I mean

01:32:38.440 I think that the

01:32:39.700 only way to

01:32:40.640 have a conversation

01:32:41.400 you need two things

01:32:42.040 one

01:32:42.360 a common

01:32:43.320 understanding

01:32:44.220 that a fact

01:32:45.620 is a fact

01:32:46.420 that facts exist

01:32:47.500 and two

01:32:48.300 you need to have a

01:32:48.940 common understanding

01:32:49.500 of the rules

01:32:49.900 of the conversation

01:32:50.580 because otherwise

01:32:51.160 you end up

01:32:51.780 falling apart

01:32:52.640 because what you'll

01:32:53.200 do is you'll

01:32:53.520 start a conversation

01:32:54.220 about facts

01:32:54.800 somebody gets

01:32:55.480 emotional

01:32:55.880 and then all

01:32:56.560 of a sudden

01:32:56.840 you're into

01:32:57.360 character attacks

01:32:58.060 and that's not

01:32:58.680 a conversation

01:32:59.220 anymore

01:32:59.560 basically

01:33:00.580 a conversation

01:33:01.860 is sort of like

01:33:02.540 you're building

01:33:03.100 a tower out of

01:33:03.680 blocks with

01:33:04.140 somebody

01:33:04.500 and if you put

01:33:05.340 down a block

01:33:05.800 and the person

01:33:06.480 immediately takes

01:33:07.100 that block

01:33:07.500 away

01:33:07.820 the tower

01:33:09.140 doesn't get

01:33:09.480 built

01:33:09.660 there's no

01:33:10.040 second level

01:33:10.580 to the conversation

01:33:11.320 the best

01:33:11.960 conversations

01:33:12.460 are the ones

01:33:13.020 that are happening

01:33:13.580 once you get

01:33:14.240 three or four

01:33:14.640 levels up

01:33:15.100 in the conversation

01:33:15.940 but you actually

01:33:16.980 have to build

01:33:17.460 the foundations

01:33:18.040 together

01:33:18.520 so one of the

01:33:19.560 mistakes I see

01:33:20.080 people make

01:33:20.460 is they try to

01:33:20.980 build on the

01:33:21.560 third floor

01:33:22.160 of the building

01:33:23.160 when the first

01:33:23.720 two floors

01:33:24.160 don't exist

01:33:24.640 so there's no

01:33:25.080 common agreement

01:33:25.600 as to the rules

01:33:26.520 of the conversation

01:33:27.280 what are the

01:33:28.080 limits of the

01:33:29.160 conversation

01:33:29.640 which issue

01:33:30.560 are we talking

01:33:31.180 about

01:33:31.460 is it insulting

01:33:32.720 for me to use

01:33:33.640 certain phraseology

01:33:34.460 with you

01:33:34.900 as you say

01:33:35.320 if you don't agree

01:33:36.180 on the fundamental

01:33:36.960 framework

01:33:37.560 is the building

01:33:38.220 going to be a square

01:33:38.920 or is it going

01:33:39.360 to be an octagon

01:33:40.020 then you

01:33:41.300 immediately start

01:33:42.480 arguing about

01:33:43.080 what sort of

01:33:43.820 minaret to put

01:33:44.380 atop the building

01:33:44.960 there's no

01:33:46.220 conversation to be had

01:33:47.240 Alicia

01:33:48.520 all right

01:33:49.180 this is a pretty

01:33:49.660 good question

01:33:50.160 one that I've

01:33:50.720 wondered myself

01:33:51.500 this comes from

01:33:52.640 a subscriber

01:33:53.200 named Mike

01:33:54.060 which don't

01:33:54.760 forget that if

01:33:55.560 you subscribe

01:33:56.100 right now

01:33:57.020 during this

01:33:57.640 podcast

01:33:58.260 you too

01:33:58.740 could be stuck

01:33:59.340 here with me

01:34:00.020 so be sure

01:34:02.000 to sign up

01:34:02.500 for that

01:34:02.840 Alicia

01:34:03.140 how do I

01:34:03.580 unsubscribe

01:34:04.160 I have no idea

01:34:07.580 I've been trying

01:34:09.360 you can check out

01:34:10.500 anytime you like

01:34:11.360 but you can never

01:34:12.360 leave

01:34:12.680 Mike says

01:34:14.920 hey guys

01:34:15.320 does the political

01:34:15.980 right run the risk

01:34:16.780 of giving AOC

01:34:17.660 too much exposure

01:34:18.860 and thus giving

01:34:19.740 her more credibility

01:34:20.640 it seems that

01:34:21.600 Democrats did this

01:34:22.560 with Trump

01:34:23.140 in 2016

01:34:23.900 no

01:34:25.100 no

01:34:25.720 I mean yes

01:34:26.620 yes in the sense

01:34:27.360 that she's prominent

01:34:28.420 because we give her

01:34:29.280 attention in part

01:34:30.160 that's in part

01:34:30.760 by the way

01:34:31.080 I think that's

01:34:31.440 total crap

01:34:31.880 I'm going to stop

01:34:32.300 you right there

01:34:32.720 that is garbage

01:34:33.440 and it is crap

01:34:34.100 it's not the only

01:34:34.720 reason she's prominent

01:34:35.480 no it is not a reason

01:34:36.800 she's prominent

01:34:37.320 you really think so

01:34:38.200 you don't think

01:34:38.620 we contribute to it

01:34:39.400 no I think that the left

01:34:40.540 so what the left did

01:34:41.800 is they put her

01:34:42.400 on the cover

01:34:42.780 of every magazine

01:34:43.680 they elevated her

01:34:44.680 to national prominence

01:34:45.700 they feature her

01:34:46.520 at every conference

01:34:47.380 and then they say

01:34:48.540 oh she pisses you off

01:34:49.460 doesn't she

01:34:49.900 right she really annoys you

01:34:51.120 she's in your

01:34:51.500 and you're like

01:34:51.860 no I think her ideas

01:34:52.700 are just bad

01:34:53.180 and it's exactly

01:34:54.240 what we were talking

01:34:54.560 about before

01:34:54.980 and then they're like

01:34:55.840 no no

01:34:56.120 she really annoys you

01:34:57.120 we'll show you

01:34:57.500 three times as much

01:34:58.340 of her

01:34:58.540 until you're annoyed

01:34:59.000 you're like

01:34:59.180 no I think it's a bad idea

01:35:00.100 here's why I think

01:35:00.860 it's a bad idea

01:35:01.280 oh you're obsessed

01:35:02.060 with her aren't you

01:35:02.680 because we put her on

01:35:03.920 I didn't put her

01:35:04.760 on the cover

01:35:05.080 of Rolling Stone magazine

01:35:05.920 and if I had never

01:35:06.780 talked about her

01:35:07.380 you know what

01:35:07.760 she would be

01:35:08.120 on the cover

01:35:08.560 of Rolling Stone magazine

01:35:09.440 I'm so tired of this

01:35:10.580 and by the way

01:35:11.140 I don't even agree

01:35:11.840 with it about Trump

01:35:12.440 I don't think

01:35:13.060 that if people

01:35:13.400 had ignored Trump

01:35:14.220 Trump would have

01:35:14.680 just gone away

01:35:15.300 I think that's

01:35:15.800 such wishful thinking

01:35:17.140 that you're in control

01:35:18.160 of a universe

01:35:18.660 that you're not

01:35:19.260 in control of

01:35:19.880 Donald Trump

01:35:20.420 was never going away

01:35:21.320 he was one of

01:35:21.720 the most famous

01:35:22.100 people in the United States

01:35:23.240 people knew who he was

01:35:24.700 people thought

01:35:25.260 it was hilarious

01:35:25.880 people wanted to hear

01:35:26.780 what he had to say

01:35:27.500 and you know what

01:35:28.460 every other candidate

01:35:29.640 in the race

01:35:30.120 tried to do

01:35:30.760 with Donald Trump

01:35:31.580 ignore him

01:35:32.480 that's what they did

01:35:33.440 I mean go back

01:35:33.920 to the primaries

01:35:34.460 Republicans ignored

01:35:35.520 Donald Trump

01:35:36.040 and you know what

01:35:36.580 happened

01:35:36.820 he won the nomination

01:35:37.680 really

01:35:38.620 we were talking

01:35:39.460 I was talking

01:35:40.000 to the Cruz campaign

01:35:40.620 and the Rubio campaign

01:35:41.460 I was like guys

01:35:41.860 you can't ignore him

01:35:42.680 stop ignoring him

01:35:43.740 you're attacking each other

01:35:44.520 and you think

01:35:45.140 that he's just

01:35:45.480 going to go away

01:35:45.900 but do you not

01:35:46.300 you don't think

01:35:46.820 a billion

01:35:47.680 two billion dollars

01:35:48.460 worth of free media

01:35:49.340 helped him out

01:35:49.920 I think that he was

01:35:50.860 going to get that

01:35:51.300 regardless

01:35:51.680 and I think that the media

01:35:52.440 that was providing him

01:35:53.200 that coverage

01:35:53.680 were people

01:35:55.000 left wingers

01:35:55.520 left wingers

01:35:56.700 and right wingers

01:35:57.400 okay Fox and Friends

01:35:58.300 built him

01:35:58.740 the guy was going

01:36:00.000 to get media coverage

01:36:00.680 he's a celebrity

01:36:01.240 celebrities get media coverage

01:36:02.380 AOC has star power

01:36:03.460 she's a celebrity

01:36:04.360 you want to see

01:36:05.420 how well this works

01:36:06.000 let's all pay attention

01:36:07.020 to Amy Klobuchar

01:36:07.680 for a week

01:36:08.120 and see if she's

01:36:08.600 suddenly a media

01:36:09.140 she might throw

01:36:09.700 a desk at us

01:36:10.420 but the reason why

01:36:11.800 I mean I give her

01:36:13.000 a lot of coverage

01:36:13.600 even things that aren't

01:36:15.000 on the cover of Rolling Stone

01:36:16.000 I play her all the time

01:36:17.260 the reason I don't think

01:36:18.520 it's a bad thing

01:36:19.560 to give her a lot of coverage

01:36:21.040 is because AOC

01:36:22.400 takes leftist arguments

01:36:24.060 to their logical conclusion

01:36:25.860 and their wacky

01:36:26.980 crazy conclusions

01:36:27.880 that knock down

01:36:28.820 every building in America

01:36:29.800 she's so much more honest

01:36:31.080 than Bernie

01:36:31.500 totally honest

01:36:32.480 I love being able

01:36:33.580 to refute those arguments

01:36:34.420 she's inherently important

01:36:36.160 she's inherently important

01:36:38.020 you have to cover her

01:36:39.000 and she is the avatar

01:36:40.120 of socialism

01:36:40.780 she's attractive

01:36:41.680 she's self confident

01:36:42.640 she's ignorant

01:36:43.220 and destructive

01:36:43.740 and that is essentially

01:36:45.240 what socialism is

01:36:46.420 socialism looks beautiful

01:36:47.620 you know

01:36:48.140 she's very attractive

01:36:48.920 it says I'm going to solve

01:36:50.280 all these problems for you

01:36:51.180 she says that

01:36:51.900 it knows nothing

01:36:53.000 about human nature

01:36:53.860 or economics

01:36:54.640 and it ultimately

01:36:55.660 destroys everything

01:36:56.460 it touches

01:36:56.840 she said is socialism

01:36:57.940 yeah

01:36:58.180 she said the great thing

01:36:59.060 this week

01:36:59.500 which is so honest

01:37:00.540 which is that

01:37:01.280 that if automation comes

01:37:03.920 none of you will have jobs

01:37:04.900 and that'll be great

01:37:05.540 because you'll be able

01:37:06.080 to learn languages

01:37:06.780 and art and music

01:37:07.540 and literature

01:37:08.360 and Bill Whittle

01:37:09.540 very famously

01:37:10.820 talked about this

01:37:11.580 almost a decade ago

01:37:12.440 because this is a common

01:37:13.380 socialist communist argument

01:37:14.940 oh yeah

01:37:15.240 that one day

01:37:16.240 you won't have to work so hard

01:37:17.380 and then you'll be able

01:37:18.320 to learn all these languages

01:37:19.100 you'll be able

01:37:19.500 to do all this art

01:37:20.360 you'll be able

01:37:20.660 to play the violin

01:37:21.240 and Bill Whittle said

01:37:22.420 yeah that happened though

01:37:23.760 it was called the iPhone

01:37:24.580 capitalism gave it to us

01:37:25.740 it gave us 100%

01:37:27.160 of all the accumulated

01:37:28.440 knowledge of man

01:37:30.220 that we carry around

01:37:31.200 in our pocket

01:37:31.700 you want to learn a language

01:37:32.780 there's an app

01:37:33.580 you want to learn music

01:37:34.560 there's an app

01:37:35.240 you want to know about

01:37:36.460 you know

01:37:37.500 the Peloponnesian War

01:37:38.420 there's an app

01:37:39.260 and what do you do

01:37:40.060 yeah look at porn

01:37:40.980 that's all that anybody does

01:37:43.740 Alicia

01:37:45.160 really

01:37:46.700 on that note

01:37:47.720 by the way

01:37:50.800 did any of you

01:37:52.120 on your shows this week

01:37:52.940 cover mommy porn

01:37:53.900 from the UK

01:37:54.540 oh god

01:37:55.440 this is an amazing story

01:37:56.500 I saw the headline

01:37:57.660 and then I closed my computer

01:37:58.760 I did not

01:37:59.740 I actually read the story

01:38:00.900 these mothers

01:38:01.900 in the United Kingdom

01:38:03.100 saw online pornography

01:38:04.940 for the first time

01:38:05.780 that their teenage children

01:38:07.140 were watching

01:38:08.140 and they were moved

01:38:09.400 two of them said

01:38:10.300 that they vomited

01:38:11.060 because it's so disgusting

01:38:12.740 what actually takes place

01:38:14.520 in online pornography

01:38:15.420 which is anything

01:38:16.260 the worst things

01:38:17.960 that the mind

01:38:18.360 can conceive of

01:38:19.000 and so

01:38:19.780 they were trying to think

01:38:20.600 you know

01:38:20.800 what do we do about this

01:38:21.860 that our children

01:38:22.540 are being exposed

01:38:23.860 to these horrible

01:38:25.380 dehumanizing

01:38:27.740 objectifying

01:38:28.640 images of women

01:38:30.140 in all these

01:38:30.800 exploited sexual positions

01:38:31.980 and their idea was

01:38:33.080 let's make mommy

01:38:34.160 approved pornography

01:38:35.180 for our children to watch

01:38:36.340 so they contact

01:38:37.500 a pornographic

01:38:38.500 production company

01:38:39.320 and they hire them

01:38:41.060 to make mom approved porn

01:38:43.040 which is pornography

01:38:44.000 that sort of adheres

01:38:45.620 to the normal customs

01:38:47.160 of sex

01:38:48.600 you know

01:38:48.920 there's little foibles

01:38:49.840 and people's bodies

01:38:51.380 aren't perfect

01:38:52.100 and it doesn't always work

01:38:53.840 the way you think

01:38:54.360 it's going to work

01:38:55.100 and it requires

01:38:56.460 you know

01:38:57.060 it requires conversation

01:38:58.080 and looking in each other's eyes

01:38:59.200 and a great storyline

01:39:00.020 and then they premiered

01:39:01.300 the movie

01:39:01.720 and made their children

01:39:02.820 sit with them

01:39:03.600 with their mothers

01:39:04.980 and watch mommy

01:39:06.040 approved porn

01:39:06.820 you know

01:39:07.020 before

01:39:07.580 I mean obviously

01:39:08.320 that's like the worst thing

01:39:09.260 I've ever heard

01:39:09.780 but these women

01:39:10.740 are clearly

01:39:11.440 the shrewdest mothers

01:39:12.780 in history

01:39:13.500 because they know

01:39:14.700 anything that mommy does

01:39:16.240 or mommy thinks is cool

01:39:17.160 like instantly

01:39:17.920 you'll reject it

01:39:18.760 they might be able

01:39:19.840 single handedly

01:39:20.720 there will be no grandchildren

01:39:22.340 the entire next line

01:39:24.340 by the way

01:39:24.680 I have a story about this

01:39:26.800 believe it or not

01:39:27.360 it has nothing to do

01:39:27.800 with my own mother

01:39:28.380 so when I was at UCLA

01:39:30.940 you know

01:39:31.260 studying things

01:39:31.880 that really matter

01:39:32.620 you had to take

01:39:34.320 some kind of

01:39:35.500 generalized GE courses

01:39:36.980 one of the courses

01:39:37.720 I had to take

01:39:38.260 was a course

01:39:38.780 in Israeli film

01:39:39.480 so Israeli film

01:39:40.660 in particularly

01:39:41.740 it's gotten a lot better now

01:39:42.720 but in the 1990s

01:39:44.120 and 2000s

01:39:44.700 it was basically

01:39:45.100 Euro porn

01:39:45.600 so it was just like

01:39:46.700 everything that was

01:39:47.620 the trashiest of European TV

01:39:49.180 was what the Israelis made

01:39:50.660 this particularly true

01:39:51.220 of like 1960s

01:39:52.160 1970s film

01:39:52.880 when Israel was just

01:39:53.540 getting on its feet

01:39:54.080 as a country

01:39:54.440 so there's a famous

01:39:56.000 Israeli actress

01:39:56.720 whose son was in the class

01:39:57.880 and they decided

01:39:58.780 that she was going to come in

01:40:00.060 and she was going to speak

01:40:00.640 about this film

01:40:01.160 and they were going to

01:40:01.960 show this film

01:40:02.500 and in this film

01:40:03.460 she is completely nude

01:40:04.460 and she is having

01:40:05.960 pretty graphic sex

01:40:07.020 with a couple of different dudes

01:40:08.080 on the screen

01:40:08.780 and her son

01:40:09.420 is in the classroom

01:40:10.620 watching this

01:40:11.820 so this is already

01:40:12.900 awkward enough

01:40:13.540 and during the Q&A

01:40:15.920 she asks her son

01:40:17.780 how did you feel watching

01:40:18.520 and he's like

01:40:18.720 well it was pretty awkward mom

01:40:19.700 so a couple of weeks later

01:40:21.240 we're back in the class

01:40:22.460 and you know

01:40:23.520 I'm an orthodox Jew

01:40:24.800 right

01:40:25.140 and I'm sitting there

01:40:26.100 most of the

01:40:26.500 it's an Israeli film class

01:40:27.600 most of the kids are Jewish

01:40:28.360 so behind me

01:40:30.300 I'm sitting with the son

01:40:31.820 and a couple of other kids

01:40:33.080 and they turn to me

01:40:34.960 and they're like

01:40:35.400 so you're orthodox

01:40:36.780 right

01:40:37.160 and they're like

01:40:37.560 so you've never had sex

01:40:39.120 right

01:40:39.320 you're a virgin until marriage

01:40:40.160 like right

01:40:40.460 that's my religious principle

01:40:41.560 I've never had sex

01:40:42.380 and they're like

01:40:43.060 well have you

01:40:43.440 and they start

01:40:44.300 kind of getting mocking

01:40:45.000 and they go

01:40:46.040 so have you ever seen

01:40:47.360 a naked woman

01:40:47.940 and I was like

01:40:48.640 well yeah

01:40:49.380 I mean I live in western culture

01:40:50.400 it's almost impossible

01:40:51.180 not to see a naked woman

01:40:52.460 at one point

01:40:53.160 and one of them goes

01:40:55.260 well who's the last

01:40:56.200 naked woman you saw

01:40:57.300 and I turn to the guy

01:40:58.040 I go

01:40:58.180 your mom

01:40:58.800 best your mother joke

01:41:02.720 of all time

01:41:03.560 also true

01:41:04.360 that's so correct

01:41:06.040 Alicia save us

01:41:08.380 from ourselves

01:41:08.940 oh god

01:41:09.500 I don't know if I can

01:41:10.600 I'm currently sadder

01:41:11.600 than Beto's dog

01:41:12.420 looked in that entire

01:41:13.360 baby

01:41:13.680 yeah man

01:41:16.620 Keegan wants to know

01:41:18.500 hey guys

01:41:18.960 what are your thoughts

01:41:19.580 on the spread of conservatism

01:41:21.060 among millennials

01:41:21.920 it's lucrative

01:41:25.800 and for $9.99

01:41:29.960 become a Daily Wire subscriber

01:41:32.420 you have just

01:41:33.620 by the way

01:41:34.160 only a few minutes left

01:41:35.080 to become a subscriber

01:41:35.960 an annual subscription

01:41:36.780 during this broadcast

01:41:37.760 be entered into a chance

01:41:39.020 to win a trip out

01:41:39.780 to see us do this again

01:41:40.940 in the future

01:41:41.480 here's what I would say

01:41:42.360 about millennials

01:41:43.040 and conservatism

01:41:43.820 it's a pretty amazing thing

01:41:46.460 the CEO of YouTube

01:41:48.180 was interviewed by

01:41:50.260 Kara Swisher

01:41:52.480 Kara Swisher

01:41:53.040 of Recode

01:41:53.680 Kara Swisher

01:41:54.820 who is a fixture

01:41:56.100 really

01:41:56.500 in reporting

01:41:57.800 on Silicon Valley

01:41:59.520 very famously

01:42:00.880 interviewed

01:42:01.300 Bill Gates

01:42:03.780 and Steve Jobs

01:42:04.660 together

01:42:05.100 was a huge

01:42:05.860 thing that she

01:42:06.940 made happen

01:42:07.380 once

01:42:07.620 and in the interview

01:42:09.080 Swisher actually

01:42:10.500 asks for YouTube

01:42:11.720 to ban

01:42:12.800 the Ben Shapiro show

01:42:14.000 and what I loved

01:42:15.360 about it

01:42:15.700 is she says

01:42:16.560 that Ben Shapiro

01:42:17.100 is a gateway drug

01:42:18.360 to the far worse

01:42:19.440 things that need

01:42:20.060 to the Nazis

01:42:20.540 to the Andrew Klayman

01:42:22.440 show

01:42:22.580 she actually says

01:42:24.160 Nazis

01:42:24.520 because

01:42:24.900 she says

01:42:25.380 they watch me

01:42:25.920 and then they watch

01:42:26.400 Jordan Peterson

01:42:26.940 and then they watch

01:42:27.400 Nazis

01:42:27.740 that's the path

01:42:29.060 but the beautiful

01:42:30.740 thing is

01:42:31.300 did they then come

01:42:31.980 back and attack you

01:42:32.940 it's just the cycle

01:42:34.480 of violence

01:42:34.860 the circle of life

01:42:35.900 actually

01:42:36.260 the reason she knows

01:42:37.620 about Ben Shapiro

01:42:38.480 is because

01:42:39.760 she walked in

01:42:40.900 to her living room

01:42:42.620 and her son

01:42:43.400 was watching something

01:42:44.200 on YouTube

01:42:44.900 and she could hear

01:42:46.040 the violent

01:42:47.000 hate-filled

01:42:47.740 bigoted rhetoric

01:42:48.980 coming from his screen

01:42:50.060 and she walked over

01:42:51.040 and he was watching

01:42:52.040 Ben Shapiro

01:42:53.220 Ben Shapiro

01:42:53.360 yeah of course

01:42:53.880 and she says

01:42:54.480 to her son

01:42:55.280 son

01:42:56.360 why are you watching

01:42:57.800 this evil evil

01:42:58.460 Ben Shapiro

01:42:58.960 and he said

01:42:59.620 mom no that's

01:43:00.520 Ben Shapiro

01:43:01.080 he's super smart

01:43:02.080 she says this

01:43:03.600 in the interview

01:43:04.060 he says no

01:43:04.720 that's Ben Shapiro

01:43:05.280 he's super smart

01:43:05.880 and she's like

01:43:06.180 no he's not smart

01:43:07.180 he's clever

01:43:08.420 but he's an idiot

01:43:09.140 and he's immoral

01:43:09.840 and he's terrible

01:43:10.480 and the CEO

01:43:13.280 of YouTube says

01:43:13.880 you don't want us to

01:43:15.320 you're not suggesting

01:43:16.040 we ban Ben Shapiro

01:43:17.120 and she says

01:43:17.940 I would

01:43:18.680 she's like

01:43:20.000 I would

01:43:20.560 but no no I can't

01:43:21.460 but obviously you can't

01:43:22.120 no no I can't

01:43:22.880 but then the best thing

01:43:23.680 that she says

01:43:24.260 is anyway

01:43:25.560 don't worry about my son

01:43:26.740 he's already lost

01:43:27.860 and I thought

01:43:29.200 what an amazing thing

01:43:31.020 that we live in a generation

01:43:32.160 where if you are

01:43:33.200 a millennial American today

01:43:34.660 and you want to rebel

01:43:36.140 against your parents

01:43:37.060 yes

01:43:37.440 what you do

01:43:38.300 is you go over

01:43:38.960 to the YouTubes

01:43:39.880 and you look for

01:43:41.040 most religious

01:43:42.840 buttoned down

01:43:44.140 Bible adhering

01:43:45.460 Orthodox Jew

01:43:46.300 in America

01:43:46.860 and when he pops up

01:43:48.140 and he says things like

01:43:49.020 hey kids

01:43:49.800 get a degree

01:43:51.320 get a job

01:43:52.080 and don't have sex

01:43:52.720 before marriage

01:43:53.240 and you'll be successful

01:43:54.220 and it's like

01:43:54.980 your parents are like

01:43:55.800 oh

01:43:56.360 back in our day

01:43:58.720 we were having tons

01:44:00.400 of sex before

01:44:00.980 it is amazing

01:44:01.440 I mean

01:44:01.660 so I spoke at U of M

01:44:03.180 last night

01:44:03.540 and there's a tweet

01:44:04.560 last night

01:44:05.300 from a person

01:44:06.520 who's conservative

01:44:07.100 who said

01:44:07.440 they brought a liberal friend

01:44:08.320 and after the lecture

01:44:09.400 was over

01:44:09.660 the liberal friend

01:44:10.160 turned to this

01:44:10.860 conservative

01:44:11.380 and astonishment

01:44:11.840 and said

01:44:12.080 he's not a racist

01:44:12.960 and it's like

01:44:14.340 yeah

01:44:14.740 no

01:44:14.880 right

01:44:16.180 of course

01:44:16.740 but this is

01:44:17.740 this is why I think

01:44:19.380 that there is hope

01:44:20.260 still for the millennials

01:44:21.260 is that at a certain point

01:44:22.520 reality does intrude

01:44:24.100 I mean this fantasy world

01:44:25.300 that we've been living in

01:44:26.120 where you can rip

01:44:27.580 on all of the evils

01:44:28.860 of capitalism

01:44:29.340 while benefiting

01:44:30.240 from every aspect

01:44:31.240 of capitalism imaginable

01:44:32.720 where you can talk

01:44:34.080 about how terrible

01:44:35.340 personal responsibility

01:44:36.240 is while living

01:44:37.220 in the freest country

01:44:38.000 in the history

01:44:38.560 of the world

01:44:39.020 where you are told

01:44:40.340 you're a victim every day

01:44:41.320 while being the most

01:44:42.000 privileged people

01:44:42.540 who have ever lived

01:44:43.300 and where you are told

01:44:44.600 that people who are racist

01:44:45.260 who are legitimately

01:44:45.800 not racist

01:44:46.440 and are in fact

01:44:47.100 anti-racist

01:44:47.800 and you are told

01:44:48.780 that true racism

01:44:50.520 is not acknowledging

01:44:52.080 that group identity

01:44:53.320 should trump

01:44:53.720 individual identity

01:44:54.320 that's real racism

01:44:55.300 at a certain point

01:44:56.180 reality intrudes

01:44:56.840 and you just go

01:44:57.260 these people are

01:44:57.900 are joyless

01:44:58.980 they're scold

01:44:59.900 they're annoying

01:45:00.960 and they make no sense

01:45:01.860 it's

01:45:02.580 it's

01:45:03.000 it really is that

01:45:03.840 the left

01:45:04.740 has gotten so irritating

01:45:06.200 and annoying

01:45:06.900 and this is not

01:45:08.060 a female term

01:45:08.700 bossy

01:45:09.620 okay

01:45:09.820 male and female

01:45:11.020 bossy

01:45:11.560 yeah

01:45:11.860 okay

01:45:12.060 it's just like

01:45:12.740 I don't want

01:45:13.460 Bernie Sanders running my life

01:45:14.500 I don't want AOC running my life

01:45:15.680 and when I say this

01:45:16.200 I think there are a lot of millennials

01:45:17.020 who are like

01:45:17.500 yeah that's

01:45:18.500 that's basically right

01:45:19.380 that's basically right

01:45:20.340 and as they get older

01:45:21.300 and they realize

01:45:21.780 just how bossy

01:45:22.600 these

01:45:22.920 the leftists

01:45:23.720 have

01:45:24.240 what they have in mind

01:45:25.520 it's gonna get worse and worse

01:45:26.700 this is why AOC and Bernie Sanders

01:45:28.100 are wonderful for us

01:45:29.060 because it's like

01:45:29.660 they're just stripping away

01:45:30.980 all pretense

01:45:31.380 like yeah

01:45:31.760 no hamburgers

01:45:32.480 we're gonna get rid of the car

01:45:33.260 it's gonna get rid of the airplanes

01:45:34.480 you're gonna watch

01:45:35.340 all of our favorite entertainment

01:45:36.620 bread lines are good

01:45:37.760 bread lines are good

01:45:39.040 bread lines are good

01:45:40.380 means you get bread

01:45:41.260 bread lines are good

01:45:43.180 there is a little bit

01:45:45.500 of a distinction too

01:45:46.460 between the millennials

01:45:47.440 who came of age

01:45:48.620 with Barack Obama

01:45:49.620 they all fell in love with him

01:45:50.880 there's not a red America

01:45:51.940 there's not a blue America

01:45:52.860 and the Gen Z

01:45:54.420 the group actually

01:45:55.860 younger than millennials

01:45:56.900 that we were talking to

01:45:57.920 yesterday at Michigan

01:45:58.680 that we see on college campuses

01:46:00.260 those are different groups

01:46:01.860 and I think that group

01:46:03.120 has come of age

01:46:03.940 in the age of the woke scolds

01:46:06.320 in the age of censorship

01:46:07.640 in the age of AOC

01:46:08.920 and bread lines

01:46:09.680 and the touting of socialism

01:46:11.300 those are very different moments

01:46:13.380 that happen very close

01:46:14.500 to one another

01:46:15.060 and it gives me a lot of hope

01:46:16.220 for those youth

01:46:16.880 these days of Gen Z

01:46:18.320 and hopefully maybe

01:46:19.200 the millennials

01:46:19.720 can learn something from them

01:46:21.060 yeah because if the left

01:46:22.260 has taught us anything

01:46:22.960 it's that you learn

01:46:23.800 exclusively from the children

01:46:26.000 out of the mouth of babes

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 13, 2019

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