The Michael Knowles Show - August 28, 2020


Daily Wire Backstage: RNC-Ya At The Polls Edition


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 8 minutes

Words per Minute

215.44908

Word Count

14,723

Sentence Count

1,038

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, and the God King, Jeremy Boring, discuss the latest news and cultural events, all while enjoying some fine whiskey and cigars. Also, we have the lovely Elisha Krause with us via satellite.


Transcript

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00:00:38.020 Hey, Michael Knowles here, and do I have a treat for you.
00:00:40.660 The latest episode of Daily Wire backstage is right around the corner, and you do not want to miss it.
00:00:46.160 Join me, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, and the God King Jeremy Boring
00:00:49.020 as we discuss the latest news and cultural events, all while enjoying some fine whiskey and cigars.
00:00:54.000 It is going to be all that and more. Take a listen.
00:00:57.940 You guys want to open up with like a good old-fashioned fake laugh in three, two, one?
00:01:05.340 Oh, welcome to the Daily Wire backstage, RNC at the Polls Edition.
00:01:09.940 I'm Jeremy Boring, known around here as the God King, and I'm very glad that you've tuned in.
00:01:15.680 How well did the Republicans make their case this week?
00:01:17.980 Was it a mistake not broadcasting riot footage on a continuous loop like I said they should?
00:01:22.120 How many more cities will the left burn down before the election?
00:01:25.720 As Biden poll numbers follow him into the basement, the question is, will either of them stay there?
00:01:30.900 I didn't understand that last sentence. I really should read these things before we actually go live.
00:01:36.600 Michael, what are you doing?
00:01:38.400 Well, I'm enjoying a mostly peaceful cocktail.
00:01:41.940 Oh, my God.
00:01:42.840 Well, hey there. Hi there. Ho there, folks.
00:01:59.620 Very glad to be with you again, joining me to discuss all of the news of this week and more.
00:02:04.560 Of course, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, and a special guest, our very own Matt Walsh.
00:02:09.620 Matt, we're really glad to have you with us.
00:02:10.880 We've been trying to save the Klaven for several months now, and I got no notification he wasn't going to be here, so I can only assume the worst.
00:02:18.380 We did our best.
00:02:20.300 Well, it is what it is.
00:02:21.560 In the words of a famous man.
00:02:25.280 Also, we have the lovely Elisha Krause with us via satellite.
00:02:28.380 Elisha, what have you got?
00:02:29.240 Hey, guys.
00:02:29.800 I just want to tell everybody to please stick around, because after the show, we're going to be doing an all-access live with Jeremy, Ben, Michael, and Matt.
00:02:36.860 And don't worry, Jeremy, about Drew, even though you haven't heard from him, and he is super-duper old.
00:02:42.260 He's just on vacation.
00:02:43.340 He hasn't died of the COVID yet.
00:02:45.120 And, of course, I will be hosting that members-only live stream discussion, and I will try to keep the boys in line this time, unlike last week.
00:02:53.580 Okay, guys?
00:02:54.220 I promise.
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00:02:58.040 And if you're already a member, good for you.
00:03:00.540 Good job.
00:03:01.280 You win on this Friday.
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00:03:33.820 I'm glad to hear that Drew's still alive.
00:03:35.520 I've been waiting out for, like, a sequel to Werewolf Cop, and I thought, I mean, if the guy's gone.
00:03:40.120 It's like George R.R. Martin.
00:03:41.240 Yeah, we're never going to come.
00:03:43.700 Matt, thank you for hanging out with us tonight.
00:03:45.380 What's going on out in Pennsylvania?
00:03:48.520 You know, not much.
00:03:49.520 I'm just, I'll try to serve well in Andrew Klavan's stead.
00:03:53.600 I'll try not to disgrace his memory, I guess, while I'm here.
00:03:58.060 Here's what you do.
00:03:59.000 No matter what we say about Donald Trump, just tell us that it's actually his genius.
00:04:03.740 That's basically the rule.
00:04:05.680 I definitely can't do that.
00:04:07.480 I can't do that.
00:04:08.420 If I were to say something like, I don't know if you guys heard, but Donald Trump caught the curtains on fire in the Oval Office while he was trying to put, I can't take this anywhere.
00:04:17.260 Anyway, your job is just to say, ah, that's just part of his genius.
00:04:21.140 Right.
00:04:21.920 Like a 70-minute speech.
00:04:23.400 Like, that'd be an element of genius.
00:04:24.880 Like, just going on.
00:04:25.800 My actual thought there is that he was going to segue directly from the nomination acceptance into his second inaugural.
00:04:31.120 He was just going to continue going all the way for several months.
00:04:33.480 That would have been perfect.
00:04:34.220 He was actually going to use the racist filibuster and completely just do it for days on end.
00:04:38.860 It would have been, I mean, he wanted to show that he had energy.
00:04:40.880 The problem was the rest of the country didn't have his kind of energy.
00:04:43.160 Most of us fell asleep.
00:04:44.920 But overall, what did you guys think of the orange?
00:04:47.040 I thought to quote a great man, some weird, pretty weird.
00:04:52.200 Listen, first of all, it's the first time in my lifetime where the Republicans put on a better show just in terms of sheer stagecraft than the Democrats.
00:05:00.680 Didn't like Billie Eilish?
00:05:01.780 Come on.
00:05:02.060 Well, what's not to love?
00:05:03.580 I think I did say last time we were together that I thought maybe it was an actual strategy on the part of the left.
00:05:09.340 I couldn't figure out how they could be so bad at the optics of that convention unless they were doing it on purpose.
00:05:15.460 If it was their way of saying we take COVID very, very seriously in sort of anticipation of the fact that the president would have a live audience at his event.
00:05:24.200 Even if that's what they were going for, what a horrible miscalculation.
00:05:27.060 And the president just looked like what he is.
00:05:30.400 I mean, he's a he's a masterful showman.
00:05:33.440 And he put on, for the most part, an entertaining show.
00:05:36.540 You know, I thought that at least 40 minutes of his 70 minute speech were actually was actually pretty entertaining.
00:05:40.940 Yeah.
00:05:41.060 It was a Wagnerian ring cycle.
00:05:42.360 If they if it was like nine hours long and if they had just cut out six of the hours, it would have been a really tight and excellent speech that really focused in on the contrast between the RNC and the DNC and the various visions of the country.
00:05:53.120 And the fact that Democrats were outside burning stuff down, like literally right outside, just burning stuff down and punching old people in the head.
00:05:58.980 But yeah, I mean, in the end, is that really I'm not sure it matters because the only thing anybody sees anyway are the clips.
00:06:03.900 Right. I mean, you can you can go on for 70 minutes.
00:06:05.920 The number of people who watch that thing beginning to end is very, very low.
00:06:09.240 People listen to the clips on shows like the ones that we do.
00:06:11.660 Right. And that's how they that's actually how they find out what Trump said.
00:06:14.460 I think.
00:06:14.700 And there were some great clips.
00:06:15.620 I mean, the speech, while a bit long and meandering, there were certainly some excellent aspects of the speech.
00:06:21.380 You know, he he spoke in ways that he didn't speak in 2016 that actually appealed to me.
00:06:26.360 I thought in 2016 the president wasn't a very good spokesperson for the sort of the ideology of conservatism, even the ideology of America, sort of creedal America.
00:06:35.860 I thought in the speech last night he actually did a much better job at being the being the front man for the greatest country on Earth.
00:06:44.160 Matt, what do you think of the speech?
00:06:45.040 Yeah, I thought it was interesting in the middle when he read the entire script of Gone with the Wind as a as an attack on political correctness.
00:06:52.920 I thought that was an interesting I mean, when it comes to when it comes down to it, I think that there's been maybe three political speeches in the history of the world that have actually mattered, maybe three to five.
00:07:02.620 Maybe the rest of them, everyone forgets about five seconds later.
00:07:05.580 So like Ben said, I think the takeaway from the RNC is not anything that anyone said.
00:07:10.640 It's what was happening outside when they were leaving.
00:07:13.280 And they literally got leftist flipping off old ladies as they're crossing the street.
00:07:16.960 I think that's the number one, I guess we could say, positive that the RNC could take away because that's what people are going to remember more than any speech.
00:07:23.720 I think it's also when we think back on party conventions, whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats, there are a few moments that come to mind.
00:07:31.040 Reagan had a good line in 92 where he joked about how he knew Thomas Jefferson.
00:07:34.940 That was kind of a funny bit.
00:07:36.440 Clint Eastwood talking to the chair.
00:07:37.920 That was kind of a funny bit.
00:07:39.060 Pat Buchanan's culture war speech sometimes comes back up.
00:07:42.260 Other than that, people don't you know, Reagan in 76.
00:07:44.500 There were these few moments that come back up.
00:07:46.680 Otherwise, they're just the rah rah for the base to get the poll numbers up.
00:07:50.700 But this one was the first time that I think there are multiple moments that will be remembered.
00:07:56.360 And the one thing that Trump did very well and the people who put it together did very well is they built it up.
00:08:01.800 So there was a big finale.
00:08:03.080 First couple of days, you know, there were some snoozers in there.
00:08:05.500 There were some clunkers.
00:08:06.460 There were good moments, too.
00:08:07.820 But it built and built.
00:08:09.280 You had two nights ago, you had Sister D.D. Byrne, who, you know, Sister Dr. Colonel D.D. Byrne, you know, gave this great speech on abortion.
00:08:16.820 And then last night you had these moments and Dorn, you know, the will.
00:08:20.900 That was the moment.
00:08:21.860 That was the moment.
00:08:22.520 I mean, that was the greatest moment.
00:08:23.340 Before we talk about it, let's let's play the clip of.
00:08:28.000 Yeah, here we go.
00:08:29.020 Yeah.
00:08:29.280 Yeah.
00:08:29.920 I relive that horror in my mind every single day.
00:08:34.680 My hope is that having you relive it with me now will help shake this country from this nightmare we are witnessing in our cities and bring about positive, peaceful change.
00:08:49.820 In a time when police departments are short on resources and manpower, we need that help.
00:08:55.780 We should accept that help.
00:08:57.420 We must heal before we can affect change, but we cannot heal amid devastation and chaos.
00:09:05.640 President Trump knows we need more Davids in our communities, not fewer.
00:09:11.420 We need more Davids in our communities, not fewer.
00:09:14.300 You know, during the DNC, they brought out that young lady whose father had died of coronavirus.
00:09:20.820 And she essentially blamed her father's death on her father for being a fool and on Donald Trump for giving, I guess, saying that we should drink fish tank cleaner or whatever her issue was.
00:09:33.000 I thought that it was the worst moment of the DNC.
00:09:35.900 I thought that it spoke ill of almost every person involved.
00:09:39.500 Contrast that with this, which I think was the highlight of the RNC.
00:09:44.340 Here's someone not putting the blame in the wrong place.
00:09:46.680 Here's someone who has suffered a true tragedy, who has accurately identified what the source of that tragedy was, and who's telling the American people about it directly because the media just hasn't.
00:09:59.660 Very powerful stuff.
00:10:00.620 Well, I mean, they've been doing this whole say their names, say her names, say his names stuff for a long time.
00:10:06.180 And they never actually distinguish between any of the facts of the cases here, right?
00:10:08.940 You're supposed to say Jacob Blake's name, despite the fact that he was a person with an open warrant for sexual assault and domestic abuse, who resisted arrest, apparently withstood two taser rounds, and then walked over to the other side of his car in defiance of police officers, reached into the car, which will get you shot under all circumstances.
00:10:25.960 And also, there was a knife on the floorboards of the driver's seat of the car.
00:10:29.440 I mean, this is like the definition of a justified shooting under all circumstances.
00:10:32.540 A car full of kids and a weapon, right?
00:10:35.120 You don't even forget there were kids.
00:10:36.320 And you're going to let him drive away as he, the guy with the domestic abuse and the sexual assault convictions in an open warrant.
00:10:42.380 You say his name in the same sentence that you say Ahmed Arbery, which is a completely different case.
00:10:46.480 You say that in the same way that you say Breonna Taylor, which, by the way, is another case where the police officers, there is literally no path to inciting the police officers because the police officers did not violate the law.
00:10:54.700 You may not like no-knock warrants, but there is no way you can incite the police officers in the Breonna Taylor case if you examine the facts of the case, period, end of story.
00:11:00.860 Right. And it's all say their names. We all understand their names.
00:11:04.200 I mean, we all name like we all know their names.
00:11:06.080 But Michael Brown is treated exactly the same way as George Floyd is treated exactly the same way as Ahmed Arbery.
00:11:11.660 The name that will never get said there is David Dorn.
00:11:13.760 Nobody will ever say David Dorn.
00:11:15.060 And this is why people got so angry inside the Democratic Party when was it Burgess Owens who said all black lives matter?
00:11:21.700 And with Terry Crews, Terry Crews, Terry Crews, Terry Crews said all black lives matter.
00:11:26.480 Yeah, they said Terry Crews said all black lives matter.
00:11:29.340 And Don Lemon went insane because at the moment you mentioned the fact that all black lives matter, including people who are more likely to including cases that are far more indicative of a national trend like David Dorn's murder than than police officers randomly shooting black people.
00:11:42.460 They get very upset because it misdirects away from the narrative they want to draw, a narrative that is completely at odds with the facts.
00:11:47.860 And that leads to the sorts of rioting and looting that you're seeing in America's major cities.
00:11:51.340 There is no way for Democrats to simultaneously make the case that America's systems are so rotted through, evil and terrible, that we need systemic fundamental change.
00:11:59.500 All you have to do is stop the rioting and looting for five seconds to elect this octogenarian white guy who used to hang out with segregationists and Kamala Harris is calling him a racist.
00:12:06.420 Five seconds go, let him.
00:12:07.680 And he will fix the system.
00:12:09.860 You can't argue the system needs to be torn down and simultaneously need to argue that the system needs to withstand outside forces.
00:12:16.680 And by the way, that clip that we just saw of Ann Dorn, it doesn't even do justice.
00:12:21.360 You've got to watch the whole speech because she's going through this very personal account of how when her husband would get a call in the middle of the night, he would usually wake her up.
00:12:30.000 But because this was so dangerous, he didn't wake her up.
00:12:32.880 And it was absolutely heartbreaking.
00:12:35.040 There was not a dry eye in the house of anybody who was watching this.
00:12:38.460 And I think this also was the key, not just to why Ann Dorn was so effective at communicating her message, why other people were so effective.
00:12:45.840 It's the whole RNC was specific.
00:12:49.100 I watched that whole DNC.
00:12:50.760 I couldn't see one argument for what Joe Biden's going to do, why we should elect him.
00:12:54.720 It was all vague generalities.
00:12:56.220 Orange man bad.
00:12:56.940 Orange man bad.
00:12:57.680 It basically was orange man bad.
00:12:59.300 Whereas with Trump, whether you like the guy or not, he told you exactly what he did, exactly what he was going to do.
00:13:04.800 And the specific stories of people who have been affected by these left wing policies, I found it very effective.
00:13:10.520 So speaking of names that will never be said by the left, Rand Paul leaving the White House last night after the conclusion of the president's speech, a sitting United States senator accosted and a police officer assaulted.
00:13:23.900 Has anybody in the media mentioned this?
00:13:25.580 I think we have the clip.
00:13:26.180 Say her name.
00:13:27.360 Say her name.
00:13:29.500 Say her name.
00:13:30.900 Oh my God, these morons.
00:13:32.340 Move back.
00:13:33.520 Move back.
00:13:34.520 You don't take pictures and all that, but you don't have to do what you want.
00:13:37.540 Move back.
00:13:38.280 Thank you.
00:13:38.780 Thank you.
00:13:39.220 I like that the senator actually turns around to make sure that the police officer.
00:13:59.380 I know, that's a great move.
00:14:00.480 Shows character.
00:14:01.380 These people are literally too stupid to insult.
00:14:03.400 They are literally too stupid to insult.
00:14:05.120 They're screaming at him.
00:14:06.380 Say her name.
00:14:06.860 He is the sponsor of the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act, which bans no-knock raids, no-knock drug warrants.
00:14:13.700 I mean, they're insane.
00:14:15.280 They don't give a crap about policy.
00:14:16.760 They don't want anything.
00:14:17.700 The reason I brought up my cell phone here is because here was the headline.
00:14:20.060 You asked whether the media said anything about this.
00:14:21.800 Here was the headline from the Associated Press.
00:14:23.160 You ready for this?
00:14:23.800 This is pretty spectacular.
00:14:25.760 Senator Paul complains about angry mob encounter after RNC.
00:14:30.440 Unbelievable.
00:14:30.940 Next thing you know, he'll pounce.
00:14:32.800 Yeah, did he pounce?
00:14:33.660 That's what I want to know.
00:14:34.440 By the way, if anybody is going to be, you know, somewhat, I would say, skittish about
00:14:39.360 encounters with people who want to do them harm in public office, probably Rand Paul, who
00:14:44.440 narrowly avoided being shot to death on a congressional baseball field and then narrowly avoided being
00:14:48.660 beaten to death by his next-door neighbor in Kentucky.
00:14:51.540 Like, that guy seems like he probably has a leg to stand on when he's like, yeah, I felt
00:14:55.060 a little threatened there.
00:14:56.340 Yeah, that's...
00:14:57.180 Again, imagine for one second that was Dianne Feinstein rather than Rand Paul.
00:15:01.100 And imagine those were Tea Partiers or alt-righters rather than what they were, which are Black
00:15:05.980 Lives Matter and Antifa protesters slash rioters slash looters and crazy people.
00:15:12.040 And you can see how the media covers this sort of stuff.
00:15:14.440 Well, this brings me to one of my complaints about our president.
00:15:17.180 You know, Donald Trump, especially when he took office, I think it persists a bit to this
00:15:22.360 day, he has an almost constitutional aversion to criticizing anyone who flatters him.
00:15:28.960 You know, the key to Donald Trump's heart is to be nice to Donald Trump.
00:15:31.980 And so it doesn't matter if you're a horrible regime.
00:15:34.520 It doesn't matter if you're a totalitarian like Kim Jong-un.
00:15:38.180 It doesn't matter if you're, you know, Saudi princes.
00:15:41.300 If you're nice to Donald Trump, Donald Trump finds it very difficult to say anything negative
00:15:44.580 about you.
00:15:45.400 QAnon.
00:15:46.280 Right.
00:15:46.780 QAnon very recently.
00:15:48.440 Back during the Charlottesville rally, the Unite the Right rally, Richard Spencer, three
00:15:56.940 years ago, President Trump, listen, they'll say that Donald Trump said that the neo-Nazis
00:16:03.200 who murdered someone with their car were fine people.
00:16:06.580 Obviously, if you look at the transcript, he never said that.
00:16:08.980 He was referring to people who were marching.
00:16:10.200 And he explicitly said, I am not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white supremacists.
00:16:15.160 Nevertheless, for me, for my taste, the president was played footsie with the alt-right during
00:16:21.180 the 2016 election.
00:16:23.480 And and I wish that he'd had a more full throated rebuke even during the Charlottesville time.
00:16:30.100 Nevertheless, here we are three years later and we still hear that.
00:16:33.300 By the way, as far as I can tell, you don't get fact checked by Twitter or Facebook or
00:16:36.840 Google if you say that the president called Nazis fine people.
00:16:39.880 So I'm telling you, as a Trump skeptic, something I don't like about the president, I think that
00:16:44.960 it's a character flaw on his part that he's afraid to give a full throated rebuttal of
00:16:51.000 horrible people if those people are in any way supportive of him.
00:16:54.000 And yet and yet and yet the left is burning down major American cities, Seattle on fire,
00:17:00.560 Portland on file, fire, Wisconsin, Minnesota.
00:17:04.440 All these states have cities on fire as we speak right outside the White House itself,
00:17:10.060 a sitting senator being accosted by protesters.
00:17:14.600 Many videos that came out today.
00:17:17.060 I got punched in the head.
00:17:18.160 I mean, that's right.
00:17:19.200 Horrible violence and actual deaths like not just one.
00:17:22.620 Many, many people have been hurt.
00:17:24.480 30 at this point have been killed in the in the vast number of riots that we've seen.
00:17:27.140 That's right.
00:17:27.560 Will the left condemn this for any reason at all?
00:17:32.280 And then the answer comes.
00:17:34.260 It comes from on high.
00:17:35.320 They are, in fact, finally, three months later, willing to condemn it because it hurts the polling
00:17:41.120 for for Joe Biden.
00:17:44.140 Don Lemon of CNN goes on the air and actually has and actually has this to say.
00:17:48.840 Do we have that clip 14?
00:17:51.300 The rioting has to stop.
00:17:53.880 Chris, as you know and I know, it's showing up in the polling.
00:17:57.620 It's showing up in focus groups.
00:18:00.060 It is the only thing.
00:18:01.840 It is the only thing right now that is sticking.
00:18:07.020 And the Democrats tonight stuck with that.
00:18:10.060 Right.
00:18:10.660 And they also stuck with the theme that you said.
00:18:14.060 The coronavirus.
00:18:15.560 You got coronavirus and you have Kenosha.
00:18:19.600 That's it, Matt.
00:18:21.540 When you when you see this kind of unbelievable hypocrisy, I know I know you were a Trump skeptic,
00:18:26.300 as as were Ben and I, Drew's not here to say that I'm the only pro-Trump guy.
00:18:30.700 You're pro-Trump, but you're not likely to tell me that it was an act of sheer genius when the president said that there were fine people on both sides.
00:18:36.240 It was an act of sheer.
00:18:39.860 Matt, does this give you does this give you pause about your support for the president?
00:18:44.900 Well, I look, I mean, obviously, there's there's no scenario where we'd be better off with the Democrats.
00:18:51.740 So that's always been my position and why I was, you know, I've always been pretty sure I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.
00:18:57.720 There's never a chance of me voting for anybody else, certainly.
00:18:59.480 And I certainly am now.
00:19:01.880 But I here's my my concern is that, you know, because we all have the memory of House flies.
00:19:08.540 My concern is that this very cynical move by the Democrats may actually pay off.
00:19:11.940 I know, you know, recently I've been thinking because of all the rioting, well, there's just no way Donald Trump can lose.
00:19:18.340 There's no way that I mean, it turns out people don't like having their houses and their businesses burned out.
00:19:23.340 People actually are against that.
00:19:24.620 But if the Democrats and all these rioters, of course, are Democrats, if they realize what they're doing and say, hey, we're going to hold off now until the next Republican is president.
00:19:36.240 I wonder if come Election Day, because it's a couple of months behind us, everyone's already forgotten about it.
00:19:42.880 I kind of think in order for this to to matter, in order for riots to affect the way people vote, it needs to be happening like as they're voting.
00:19:51.620 It needs to be that present in their mind.
00:19:53.380 I guess that's a good question.
00:19:54.940 Can they put the genie back in the bottle?
00:19:56.820 I mean, the cynical play by the left is to have unleashed these rioters, winked at these rioters, actually supported, openly supported, paid for their bail.
00:20:05.100 Yeah.
00:20:05.320 But they don't control the rioters.
00:20:06.660 Michael, can they stop this?
00:20:08.300 This is the issue.
00:20:09.280 When you play with fire, you might get burned.
00:20:11.700 People sometimes say if we get into a war, here's what's going to happen.
00:20:15.080 And then the first month it'll be this and six months later it'll be this.
00:20:17.340 You can't once war starts, once once things spiral away from law and order, they get out of your control and you can't control them.
00:20:23.800 And it's this this issue, you know, to this point about the alt right and Trump playing footsie with anybody.
00:20:29.400 Donald Trump has been saying since the 90s, since the first time he thought about running for president, he said that David Duke is a Hitler lover.
00:20:35.580 Right.
00:20:35.820 He's condemned these sorts of people and he's done it again and again and again, specifically on David Duke, such that in 2016 he actually said, how many times do I have to talk about David Duke?
00:20:45.100 I don't know David Duke.
00:20:46.060 I hate David Duke.
00:20:46.840 He's a bad guy.
00:20:47.500 Whatever.
00:20:47.960 He was joking about that.
00:20:49.480 Just last week, Richard Spencer, the guy who was behind the Charlottesville rally, he's probably the most prominent white identitarian in the country.
00:20:57.200 He endorsed Joe Biden and he said, I'm not doing this ironically.
00:20:59.760 I think Biden is more competent than Trump.
00:21:01.600 So I'm going to vote for Joe Biden.
00:21:02.760 You'll never hear a peep about that.
00:21:04.160 You will never be asked to condemn anybody.
00:21:06.800 Even Don Lemon there, he doesn't say I'm condemning these people.
00:21:09.640 He's just saying, it's not good politics, guys.
00:21:11.680 Calm down for a little bit.
00:21:12.880 So the question becomes, do we even play their game?
00:21:15.960 They will never be asked to condemn the riots.
00:21:19.200 And so why do we always play on their footing?
00:21:21.940 Why are we always playing defense when they're only playing offense?
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00:23:54.980 I totally agree with Matt that I'm very, very concerned that the memory span of the American public is a guppy.
00:24:01.580 And I am really worried because what the Democrats have basically realized in the last week is, hey, wait a second.
00:24:07.400 For several months here running, we have basically not only ignored the violence in America's major cities,
00:24:12.220 we have suggested that Donald Trump is a fascist, an outright fascist, for attempting to stop the violence in America's major cities.
00:24:18.180 They have termed rioters and looters protesters for purposes of calling Trump a fascist for sending federal forces into places like Portland
00:24:24.480 or for threatening to send federal forces into places like Seattle.
00:24:27.320 Remember, Tom Cotton's op-ed calling for the use of the Insurrection Act to stop rioting and looting was seen as such a threat to quote-unquote protesters
00:24:34.720 that they fired the op-ed editor of the New York Times for even running the thing.
00:24:37.960 So they've been running this interference game where they conflate the rioters and the looters and the protesters for months.
00:24:42.820 Okay, so they were able to get away with this and say that no violence was occurring, right?
00:24:46.060 Last, like two days ago, the CNN chyron, while a guy was on screen talking about things on fire behind him,
00:24:52.620 was fiery but mostly peaceful protests, which, as Bridget Phetasy said, is like the Titanic coverage saying,
00:25:00.060 watery but mostly safe voyage, right?
00:25:02.200 Like, that's not the way this works.
00:25:04.840 They've been playing this game where violence is a figment of your imagination.
00:25:07.240 We've all been going nuts, right, tearing out our hair.
00:25:09.380 Well, in the last two days, the Democrats realized there's a problem.
00:25:12.800 And so now Joe Biden is planning, apparently, there's that chyron.
00:25:15.840 Apparently, Joe Biden is now playing this game where he is going to go to Wisconsin,
00:25:21.080 he's going to go to Minneapolis, and he's going to make speeches saying that the rioting and the looting are bad.
00:25:26.300 Now, you can guarantee the first 35 minutes of each one of those speeches,
00:25:29.120 or the first 35 seconds, because he can't do a 35-minute speech.
00:25:31.780 The first 35 seconds of that will be dedicated to how America is systemically racist and completely evil,
00:25:37.160 and all of the anger that we're seeing in the streets is justified anger.
00:25:40.200 It's just that the violence itself is unnecessary.
00:25:42.280 Now, we know that's exactly what he was going to say.
00:25:43.680 Come on, man. Come on, man.
00:25:44.360 That's exactly what he said, right?
00:25:45.360 He actually made a statement, and his condemnation of the violence was it made him sick to his...
00:25:50.000 It didn't make him sick to his stomach to watch entire cities burn, right?
00:25:52.700 It didn't make him sick to his stomach to watch what happened to David Dorn.
00:25:55.060 It made him sick to his stomach to see what happened to Jacob Blake.
00:25:57.220 That's what he said, because it happened in broad daylight, and a police officer shot this guy directly in the back.
00:26:02.080 Kamala Harris, by the way, says no investigation really necessary.
00:26:04.820 Convict the officers, indict and convict the officers.
00:26:07.460 And so Joe Biden basically trots along with the narrative put out by the rioters and the looters,
00:26:12.060 and then he says, but guys, really, this isn't necessary,
00:26:14.500 because if you elect me, I'm just going to do all that stuff for you.
00:26:18.100 I'm going to go ahead, and I'm just going to make the policy changes that you want me to make.
00:26:22.360 Is that going to be effective in shutting down the rioting and the looting?
00:26:24.620 Well, if these guys are smart, then yeah, it will be, because they're basically getting what they want.
00:26:29.280 But I think some of them don't give a crap about any of this.
00:26:33.100 I think what they give a crap about is mainly burning things.
00:26:35.680 And so eventually, the question is going to be whether Democratic mayors decide to shut it down with use of force.
00:26:39.260 Matt, you were one to jump in there, I think.
00:26:42.660 Yeah, well, I just, I think of the irony here.
00:26:44.580 I really think that the short attention span of the American people is the number one challenge for political campaigns.
00:26:49.820 Now, I think it just redefines everything.
00:26:51.840 I think we might look back and say that the Monica Lewinsky scandal was the last real political scandal in history,
00:26:57.540 because it's the last one that people really talked about for, you know, years, really.
00:27:01.360 We just don't do that anymore.
00:27:02.400 So the irony is that the thing that has helped Trump and that has made him sort of Teflon for the last three years may be turning against him.
00:27:09.500 Because you think about all these scandals, whether real or imagined, that in the past would have just totally destroyed.
00:27:15.160 I would start with the Access Hollywood tape, you know, just a couple of weeks before the election.
00:27:19.540 I mean, you think back in history, it seems like that would have completely destroyed politicians.
00:27:23.940 It didn't touch him, I think, and we assumed it's because of something particular about his character and who he is that these things don't stick.
00:27:31.100 I think that's part of it.
00:27:31.880 But I also think it's just that's the way in our media-saturated culture.
00:27:35.280 And you think about, you know, impeachment.
00:27:38.060 I mean, the Democrats didn't even talk about impeachment at their own convention, because even something like impeachment used to be a huge deal.
00:27:44.660 It's only happened a few times in history.
00:27:46.140 We've already, no one's talking about that anymore.
00:27:47.660 We've already moved on from it, which for good reason.
00:27:49.820 But so now I'm just wondering if this is flipped against Trump and the thing that should stick to the Democrats won't.
00:27:56.600 We also need to make sure we don't let elected Democrats distance themselves from the rioters, which is what they're trying to do.
00:28:02.580 We use all these terms, BLM, Antifa, rioters, protesters.
00:28:06.320 They're Democrats.
00:28:06.940 They're Democrats doing things on behalf of Democrats.
00:28:09.560 There are elected Democrats and prominent media Democrats who have directly called for these kinds of riots and this kind of violence.
00:28:16.120 Maxine Waters said, when you see Republicans in the streets, mob them, surround them, create a crowd.
00:28:22.540 You had Chris Cuomo on CNN saying that protests don't need to be peaceful because he hasn't read the First Amendment.
00:28:28.340 You had Hillary Clinton say that you can't be civil with a political party that disagrees with you.
00:28:33.060 You can't be civil.
00:28:34.040 Well, what's the opposite of civil?
00:28:35.240 What does that leave room for?
00:28:36.600 These are some of the most prominent Democrats in the country.
00:28:39.200 They told these rioters to go out and get violent.
00:28:42.360 That's what they did, and we shouldn't let the elected Democrats get off the hook for what they're going to try to do for the next several weeks.
00:28:48.340 Yeah, if only there was an organization devoted to reporting on the actual things that are said by politicians.
00:28:55.160 You might actually have a prayer of some of this sticking.
00:28:57.140 But, Matt, to your point, the news cycle moves so fast now, and Democrats have absolutely no incentive to put the focus anywhere except on orange man bad.
00:29:07.120 And they basically want to destroy Donald Trump through a thousand paper cuts, right?
00:29:10.580 They've realized no single scandal is going to bring him down.
00:29:14.000 And so instead, it's sort of a shotgun approach where every single day they make you believe that Trump, here's the latest outrage, the latest outrage, the latest outrage from Donald Trump.
00:29:22.980 And you see it working.
00:29:23.840 A lot of our friends, listen, I didn't vote for the president in 2016.
00:29:27.740 The only thing that kept me from being a prominent never-Trumper is that I'm not prominent.
00:29:30.760 But it wasn't for lack of trying, you know, I famously wrote that I thought during the last Republican National Convention, I said that for conservatives, the election was already lost no matter what went on to happen in November.
00:29:46.640 And even I can tell you that I've watched many of our peers who were in that never-Trump movement in 2016 actually fall for this sort of media approach wherein they are outraged by every outrage.
00:29:59.880 And so they are in a constant state of being outraged, no matter what the actual thing is, no matter whether it's actually relevant, no matter whether it's actually true.
00:30:08.500 It's sort of like conspiracy.
00:30:09.800 All conspiracy theories basically thrive on the preponderance of false evidence.
00:30:15.100 You know, somebody will say, well, if there's, if we really landed on the moon, then why are, you know, if there's only one source of light on the moon, why are there two shadows?
00:30:22.760 You go, well, there's two, there's actually two sources of light.
00:30:24.580 There's the sun and the moon and they'll go, which reflects so much light that you can read in the dark during a full moon on Earth, 200,000 miles away.
00:30:31.280 They'll go, oh, but the flag, why did the flag wave if there's no air?
00:30:34.720 And the radiation belt.
00:30:35.200 Yeah, what about the Van Allen radiation belt?
00:30:36.740 In other words, no matter, you can't speak to enough of these things.
00:30:39.980 Yeah.
00:30:40.620 They can just move right on to the next hour.
00:30:42.200 And that's what the, that's the approach that the media has taken with the president.
00:30:45.180 Although I will say, I think they thought, they thought they had a silver bullet because they did try that strategy for years on end.
00:30:50.020 And I think they've had that, they thought they had the silver bullet in the coronavirus.
00:30:52.940 And, and that's why they're really kind of two themes and, and they keep going back to it, right?
00:30:57.280 You saw in the last couple of nights of the RNC, as it became absolutely clear that the Democrats completely blew it when it came to violence in the major cities, the entire media immediately swiveled to, ah, but look at how there's a crowd on the South Lawn.
00:31:09.640 They're not wearing masks.
00:31:10.500 They're sitting right next to each other.
00:31:11.480 That was the coverage last night.
00:31:12.460 The coverage last night was all, look at these terrible people who are sitting there right next to each other and breathing on each other.
00:31:17.420 What about the people who are going to try to mug them when they leave the White House?
00:31:20.580 What about that crowd?
00:31:21.140 No, and this is how you know, you know, what insane hypocrites they are.
00:31:25.100 Literally the next day, there are 50,000 people on the National Mall standing directly next to each other, most of them not wearing masks.
00:31:30.080 And the media don't mention one time social distancing or mask wearing.
00:31:34.380 I think that the Democrats thought that COVID was going to continue to be the chief issue in everybody's mind all the way up till November.
00:31:41.160 I don't think they're right about this.
00:31:42.320 I think that, you know.
00:31:43.400 So you may have seen, Ben, we were the number one publisher in the world on Facebook in the month of July.
00:31:48.040 Daily Wire's first time that I think certainly that any Internet media company has ever.
00:31:53.880 Note to Kevin Roos at the New York Times.
00:31:55.360 Mad bro.
00:31:56.360 No.
00:31:56.720 Mad bro.
00:31:57.540 Number one publisher in the world on Facebook in July.
00:31:59.500 And in News Whip's coverage of this, they said one of the interesting things is all of the other people in the top category devoted all of their coverage, the majority of their coverage to coronavirus.
00:32:10.580 And Daily Wire sort of uniquely devoted our coverage during the month of July to the burning down of major American cities.
00:32:16.520 And they were sort of coming to the realization that, oh, the entire media is an echo chamber, and they don't talk about what people are interested in.
00:32:26.340 They talk to try to astroturf interest into the people.
00:32:31.500 We talk about what people were really interested in, and it shot us up to the very top of the charts.
00:32:35.660 I want to brag some more about The Daily Wire and how good we are, how we're number one, and how we love to hear the lamentation of our enemies.
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00:34:52.940 Diversification is very important, unless you're Alicia Krauss,
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00:35:05.160 Never go full Alicia.
00:35:06.440 I like to bring this up from time to time.
00:35:08.100 Alicia has a podcast called The Lady Brains.
00:35:09.920 It's really entertaining.
00:35:11.380 They do it with Ricochet, and a lot of our pals are on it.
00:35:13.960 You really should listen to it.
00:35:14.780 But I did listen to this episode one time, in which Alicia and the girls tried to explain
00:35:19.380 how raising urban quails is a superior alternative to raising urban chickens,
00:35:27.120 and how you can do both without being in any way hipster,
00:35:30.960 which reminded me that Alicia Krauss has many talents.
00:35:33.940 Knowing what the word hipster means is not one of them.
00:35:37.000 Alicia, are you there with us?
00:35:38.220 Hey, you know, don't forget, I also have whiskey buried under there,
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00:35:46.180 especially if you're Michael Knowles.
00:35:47.540 That's true.
00:35:48.340 I do prefer whiskey to quail.
00:35:50.240 I do.
00:35:50.560 I like quail, too.
00:35:51.780 But you can cook the quail in the whiskey.
00:35:54.060 Double win.
00:35:54.960 All right, guys.
00:35:55.600 I'm here to remind everyone to stick around for the All Access Live after the show
00:35:59.660 and join Jeremy, Ben, Michael, and, of course, Matt Walsh.
00:36:02.680 Welcome, Matt, for a members-only discussion.
00:36:05.380 And I will be there moderating, and I'm still looking around for my whistle.
00:36:08.840 I know you guys don't really like soccer, but I have my red card handy and ready to go.
00:36:13.360 If you want to join us-
00:36:14.680 I don't know what any of those words meant.
00:36:15.820 I can't wait to pretend to be injured, though.
00:36:17.960 Whatever, Alicia.
00:36:18.700 I'm saying, ah!
00:36:19.420 A fake out?
00:36:20.960 A fake out just to get Ben in trouble for the red card?
00:36:24.120 He doesn't care.
00:36:25.060 Michael and I were recently in Tennessee, and we saw what appeared to be-
00:36:28.180 We were at a distance, I have to admit.
00:36:30.100 We were in a vehicle.
00:36:31.040 What appeared to be grown adults playing soccer.
00:36:32.920 Obviously not possible.
00:36:33.860 Yeah, it was 100 degrees, 80% humidity in central Tennessee,
00:36:37.520 and they were wearing masks because of their deep fear of the Rona.
00:36:41.360 And all I could think is if you walked over to one of those soccer players
00:36:43.720 with no mask on and just said hello,
00:36:45.680 they'd fall to the ground holding their knee and writhing in agony.
00:36:49.620 Oh, Lord, I'd say my middle should definitely play soccer.
00:36:52.160 She does a fake out all the time.
00:36:54.120 But if you want to join us to see who gets the red card the most,
00:36:57.840 my bet's on Michael.
00:36:59.020 I don't know.
00:36:59.380 Maybe it'll be Ben.
00:37:00.060 Maybe even Matt, even though the poor guy's from afar.
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00:37:31.580 Do you guys want to hear some of the chit-chat
00:37:33.100 that people are already talking about?
00:37:34.200 Yeah, what are they talking about?
00:37:35.000 So some of the members are already getting into the discussion.
00:37:37.640 Carol says that she loves you guys
00:37:39.100 and she's looking for your opinion
00:37:40.640 about the possibility of whether or not
00:37:42.900 there could be a president, Pelosi, dear God, I hope not,
00:37:45.640 if the election is unsettled.
00:37:47.560 And it's a good thing that Drew isn't here
00:37:49.660 because he might be triggered by this next question.
00:37:52.680 Some of the commenters are locked in a heated debate
00:37:55.600 and they're wondering who has the best hair of all of you guys.
00:37:58.420 Mark says that he thinks it's Michael
00:38:00.380 and that Michael is his quote-unquote hair hero.
00:38:03.140 Come on, go on.
00:38:04.620 Come on.
00:38:05.860 Maybe we'll settle that debate and more
00:38:08.160 during the All Access right after the show.
00:38:10.240 Thanks, Alicia.
00:38:10.940 We'll be over there and look forward to weighing in
00:38:12.940 on all the important issues.
00:38:14.400 Yeah.
00:38:15.840 So one of the questions that we've been debating
00:38:18.420 since the very beginning of this election,
00:38:20.260 I think we talked about it last week after the DNC,
00:38:22.560 I have maintained from the very beginning
00:38:24.040 that there would never be any circumstance
00:38:26.360 in which the Democrats would put Joe Biden
00:38:28.340 on a debate stage with Donald Trump.
00:38:30.660 This last week after seeing the performance
00:38:32.860 that the president gave,
00:38:33.780 seeing the overall performance
00:38:35.140 of all the Republicans at the RNC,
00:38:37.580 how they were willing to take the fight to the Democrats,
00:38:40.480 and after the Speaker of the House herself,
00:38:43.120 Nancy Pelosi,
00:38:44.000 actually floated the idea
00:38:45.900 of Joe Biden not doing a debate.
00:38:48.100 I was the only one last week
00:38:49.140 who said that there wouldn't be a debate.
00:38:50.340 I think I put a little money on the line.
00:38:51.860 I want to go around the horn
00:38:52.640 and see if you guys have had the opportunity
00:38:54.020 to realize just how right I am.
00:38:56.360 Michael, what are you thinking?
00:38:57.080 I would have disagreed a couple of weeks ago,
00:39:00.740 but I think now it's becoming more likely.
00:39:02.980 They had had these op-ed columnists,
00:39:04.820 these Democrats floating this idea
00:39:06.180 that Biden doesn't debate.
00:39:07.700 That didn't stick.
00:39:08.760 Now you have Pelosi.
00:39:09.640 She's the most powerful elected Democrat in the country.
00:39:12.480 She's floating it.
00:39:13.340 It's a little more serious.
00:39:14.560 The one reason, though,
00:39:15.560 and Ben and I were talking about this
00:39:16.700 a little bit earlier today,
00:39:18.180 the one reason why I think Biden still has to debate
00:39:21.460 is because the convention didn't work for the Democrats.
00:39:25.640 It's not even just because the Democrats
00:39:27.180 are burning down the country.
00:39:28.420 The convention was supposed to give them
00:39:29.900 a boost in the polls.
00:39:30.920 You don't really see that.
00:39:32.140 Choosing a vice president
00:39:33.080 was supposed to give you a boost in the polls.
00:39:34.580 That did not happen.
00:39:35.440 Actually, Rasmussen showed that it hurt Joe Biden.
00:39:38.720 And I suspect, we don't have the numbers yet,
00:39:40.180 but I suspect that President Trump
00:39:41.780 is going to get even more of a boost out of the RNC.
00:39:44.400 So the numbers are not trending in Biden's direction.
00:39:46.780 And I think if he shows the cowardice
00:39:48.320 of not going up and debating,
00:39:50.260 that it's going to hurt him even more.
00:39:52.080 So my money is still slightly on
00:39:54.160 his going and showing up to some kind of debate.
00:39:57.020 But it's pretty clear at this point,
00:39:58.660 the party itself does not want him on that.
00:40:00.900 Well, I'll tell you what's really got me,
00:40:02.680 what's reinforced for me that there won't be a debate.
00:40:04.820 And it's that on social media,
00:40:06.820 all the Democrats who,
00:40:08.060 listen, people with whom I'm personal friends,
00:40:10.440 have all started saying
00:40:11.540 that Donald Trump doesn't want a debate.
00:40:13.620 And that Donald Trump is asking for a fourth debate
00:40:15.700 to set up for the idea
00:40:17.340 that he won't do any debates
00:40:19.880 because Biden won't do a fourth debate.
00:40:21.360 In other words, they are creating,
00:40:23.860 they're projecting.
00:40:24.600 That's right.
00:40:24.920 Ben, what do you think?
00:40:26.080 No, I think Biden has to debate.
00:40:28.100 I mean, at this point,
00:40:29.320 the election is too close.
00:40:30.720 And it is.
00:40:31.600 I mean, people are looking at that national number
00:40:33.100 as though the national number matters.
00:40:34.380 And the national number does not matter.
00:40:36.180 They're running up the score in California.
00:40:37.720 They're running up the score in New York.
00:40:39.620 But you can see the polls have narrowed considerably
00:40:41.480 in the last couple of weeks
00:40:42.660 in virtually every swing state.
00:40:44.540 He's now back in the lead in North Carolina,
00:40:45.820 which obviously he has to win.
00:40:46.700 But the lead is basically down to zero in Minnesota.
00:40:50.080 That's because I can't think of any other reason
00:40:52.140 other than the riots in Minneapolis.
00:40:53.700 The numbers are going to close
00:40:55.520 extremely fast in Wisconsin.
00:40:57.000 I think that Trump right now
00:40:58.120 has the upper hand in Wisconsin.
00:40:59.500 What Trump really needs
00:41:00.260 is in the same way that Barack Obama
00:41:02.200 doubled down on the voters
00:41:03.660 who brought him victory in 2008
00:41:05.840 and actually lost some votes from 2008 to 2012
00:41:08.000 and then won re-election
00:41:08.780 because he got the people who loved him the most
00:41:11.380 to show up in even greater numbers.
00:41:13.100 That's kind of what Trump is doing with rural areas.
00:41:14.800 So he's saying, you know what?
00:41:16.560 I can compete a little bit in the suburbs.
00:41:17.980 I'm going to give up the cities almost completely.
00:41:19.820 I need the people in rural areas
00:41:20.960 to show up like twice as much.
00:41:22.500 And Kenosha is not a big city.
00:41:25.100 Kenosha is a town of 100,000 people.
00:41:26.940 It is not in the top 100 American cities.
00:41:28.880 There are lots of towns of 100,000 people
00:41:30.480 in the United States.
00:41:32.280 And towns like Kenosha are going to turn out en masse
00:41:35.200 and vote for Donald Trump.
00:41:37.120 I mean, I think that he's now got the upper hand
00:41:39.220 in Wisconsin.
00:41:40.120 I think he's running even in Michigan.
00:41:41.720 Remember, he doesn't need to win
00:41:43.880 all three of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
00:41:46.500 He needs to win one of those
00:41:47.180 and maintain all the rest of the other states.
00:41:48.540 So if he wins Minnesota,
00:41:49.860 then he can even lose another state, right?
00:41:51.820 So he needs to win Florida.
00:41:53.200 Florida really is the big one no one's talking about
00:41:54.840 because Florida, Biden seems to have a fairly solid
00:41:57.860 five to seven point lead in most of the polls.
00:41:59.620 But even in Florida,
00:42:00.320 things are starting to close a little bit now.
00:42:02.480 And I think that because Florida
00:42:04.100 actually handled COVID correctly,
00:42:05.420 thanks to Governor Ronda Santos,
00:42:06.820 I think that you're going to start to see
00:42:07.840 some more enthusiasm for President Trump
00:42:09.280 as the economy starts to reopen there.
00:42:10.680 So this election is far from over.
00:42:12.840 It shows you how quickly
00:42:14.300 this sort of widespread perception
00:42:16.420 that Biden is way ahead is dissipating,
00:42:19.120 that he is now forced to travel
00:42:20.500 to all the places that Hillary Clinton
00:42:21.640 refused to travel last time.
00:42:22.820 Matt, you haven't been part of our bet
00:42:25.300 up until this point.
00:42:26.320 Where are you on the issue of the debates?
00:42:28.940 Yeah, well, I got to agree with you, Jeremy,
00:42:30.520 or maybe you agree with me.
00:42:31.480 Maybe I'll phrase it that way.
00:42:32.720 I don't, I could only really answer this
00:42:36.240 along the lines of what do I think he should do?
00:42:38.460 Whether or not he'll do
00:42:39.120 what I think he should do is a different question.
00:42:40.480 But I don't see any reason
00:42:42.780 or any positive, real positive
00:42:44.940 for Biden in debating Trump
00:42:47.220 because you just have to think,
00:42:48.520 okay, if it goes,
00:42:50.560 what you have to look at is
00:42:51.620 if it goes really, really well for Biden,
00:42:53.940 how much will he gain from that?
00:42:55.940 As opposed to if it goes really,
00:42:57.420 really poorly for him,
00:42:58.780 how much will he lose?
00:42:59.800 And I think he stands to lose
00:43:01.360 a hell of a lot more than he stands to gain,
00:43:03.360 especially because you're debating,
00:43:04.520 look, you're debating Donald Trump.
00:43:05.640 I happen to think that,
00:43:07.640 I guess I differ from a lot of conservatives.
00:43:09.300 I think that Donald Trump is abysmal in debates.
00:43:11.260 I think he's really bad.
00:43:12.900 And he tends to be kind of low energy too,
00:43:15.120 actually, in debates.
00:43:16.280 But what he does,
00:43:17.800 he only needs like one line.
00:43:19.240 He'll just have one little,
00:43:20.420 it could go for three hours,
00:43:21.820 but like with Hillary,
00:43:23.640 he just had one line,
00:43:24.880 terrible performance.
00:43:26.080 One time he just said,
00:43:27.500 well, if I'm elected, you'll go to jail.
00:43:29.640 And that was it.
00:43:31.320 That was the only thing.
00:43:32.940 It was the only thing that defined that entire debate.
00:43:35.340 So you're debating a guy
00:43:36.880 who just needs to have one little line like that.
00:43:41.140 And at the same time,
00:43:42.080 you're also, from Biden's perspective,
00:43:43.540 you're also senile.
00:43:44.380 So just the risk is extremely high for him.
00:43:47.540 And I just don't see.
00:43:48.580 All he really has to do is cite Hunter Biden
00:43:50.400 and then call Joe Biden senile.
00:43:51.720 And it gets real ugly for Joe real fast.
00:43:53.260 Because once Joe gets agitated,
00:43:54.580 he just, he can't get it back.
00:43:56.220 I mean, you've seen this in his public appearances
00:43:58.360 and people keep ignoring this,
00:43:59.620 that even Joe Biden on teleprompter
00:44:01.880 is better than Joe Biden off teleprompter.
00:44:03.340 That's right.
00:44:03.680 When he does these public appearances,
00:44:04.800 every time somebody asks him a question
00:44:06.160 that he doesn't like,
00:44:07.120 he starts challenging them to fistfights.
00:44:09.260 Come on, man.
00:44:10.020 Remember, hey, fat.
00:44:10.420 Come on, yeah.
00:44:10.780 Hey, fat.
00:44:11.280 Hey, fat.
00:44:11.860 You want to go?
00:44:12.620 Hey, fat.
00:44:13.220 That was a solid one.
00:44:13.720 Hey, orange, you want to go out back
00:44:15.160 and push-ups in the street with a brawl?
00:44:17.380 That's what I'm talking about.
00:44:19.100 You know, I also don't want to just blow over
00:44:21.100 something that Ben just said,
00:44:22.680 which is about Minnesota.
00:44:24.340 Minnesota is a blue state.
00:44:25.780 Ronald Reagan won 49 states in 1984.
00:44:28.320 He didn't win Minnesota.
00:44:29.980 Minnesota right now,
00:44:31.040 if you've got Donald Trump and Joe Biden
00:44:32.840 running neck and neck,
00:44:34.100 that is not a good sign for the Democratic Party.
00:44:37.120 And you look at the national polls,
00:44:38.760 that's not how the election is going to be decided.
00:44:41.060 It's going to go state by state.
00:44:42.460 And you're seeing the direct effect
00:44:43.920 of the riots in Minnesota.
00:44:46.140 Those riots, those protests,
00:44:47.500 have only been spreading the last couple of months.
00:44:50.000 What does that mean for other states?
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00:47:03.760 We're now,
00:47:04.200 the conventions are past.
00:47:05.300 Maybe there will be debates.
00:47:06.280 Maybe there won't.
00:47:07.620 The house is divided here
00:47:08.920 50-50
00:47:09.560 on that question.
00:47:11.580 Although,
00:47:12.100 Matt,
00:47:12.260 I do like how you said that,
00:47:13.300 that there's what he should do
00:47:14.260 and what he will do.
00:47:15.500 That's always the case in politics.
00:47:16.980 Almost no one in politics
00:47:18.260 ever does what they should do.
00:47:19.860 They almost exclusively do
00:47:21.280 what they think
00:47:22.180 they're supposed to do.
00:47:23.540 And that's one of the reasons
00:47:24.260 that we find ourselves
00:47:24.940 in all the trouble
00:47:25.720 that we're in this country.
00:47:26.780 Nevertheless,
00:47:27.280 here we are.
00:47:27.700 We're in the run-up
00:47:28.720 to the election.
00:47:29.800 Typically,
00:47:31.180 somewhere in the next
00:47:32.240 five weeks,
00:47:33.840 some sort of
00:47:34.400 earth-shattering surprise
00:47:35.480 enters the election.
00:47:37.300 Famously in 2016,
00:47:38.600 it was the all-access tape.
00:47:40.780 The all-access tape
00:47:41.620 drops only a few weeks
00:47:42.560 out from the election.
00:47:43.640 We all think
00:47:44.220 Donald Trump's campaign
00:47:45.840 is finished.
00:47:47.380 In 2008,
00:47:48.820 it was the actual collapse
00:47:50.040 of the American economy.
00:47:53.540 What's it going to be this time?
00:47:54.720 I mean,
00:47:54.920 there's no way 2020
00:47:55.940 doesn't give us
00:47:56.880 the craziest curveball.
00:47:57.740 I was literally about to say this.
00:47:58.940 So,
00:47:59.460 channeling our friend,
00:48:00.640 our late-departed friend,
00:48:02.600 Andrew Klavan.
00:48:03.480 So,
00:48:03.680 Andrew Klavan.
00:48:04.360 Bless his soul.
00:48:05.700 He'll be missed.
00:48:06.620 He has said before
00:48:07.860 that it sometimes feels
00:48:09.380 like we're one plot twist short.
00:48:11.720 As a guy who writes novels,
00:48:13.300 Drew has a very good feel
00:48:14.380 for sort of
00:48:14.960 there needs to be
00:48:15.800 one more plot twist
00:48:16.640 in order to make
00:48:17.200 this plot really run.
00:48:18.600 And believe it or not,
00:48:19.220 despite the fact
00:48:19.760 that the writers of 2020
00:48:20.820 have gone all out,
00:48:21.720 I mean,
00:48:21.880 they've done everything
00:48:22.520 from hurricanes
00:48:23.160 to cities burning
00:48:24.020 to COVID-19,
00:48:25.580 like literally all the impeachment,
00:48:27.340 Bernie Sanders,
00:48:27.860 like all the storylines.
00:48:28.880 We're still a couple
00:48:29.620 of plot twists short.
00:48:31.080 I feel like there's one
00:48:32.000 fairly predictable plot twist
00:48:33.060 that is going to happen,
00:48:33.740 and that is going to be
00:48:34.920 the clear exposure
00:48:37.120 of the fact that Joe Biden
00:48:38.040 is not a healthy man.
00:48:39.340 And the reason that I say that
00:48:41.080 is because in 2016,
00:48:42.380 we had the exact same thing.
00:48:43.820 For months and months on end,
00:48:45.540 people kept saying,
00:48:46.280 Hillary Clinton does not look good.
00:48:47.800 Hillary Clinton does not look like
00:48:49.160 she is quite as lively as normal.
00:48:51.700 She's not on the campaign trail
00:48:52.660 very much.
00:48:53.380 Remember,
00:48:53.660 people were making a big deal
00:48:54.320 out of her hacking cough.
00:48:55.400 And these days,
00:48:55.800 that would have a completely
00:48:56.420 different connotation
00:48:57.100 because of COVID.
00:48:57.620 But she was kind of hacking away
00:48:59.720 and people were like,
00:49:00.120 she really doesn't sound good.
00:49:01.180 She looks tired.
00:49:01.960 She doesn't feel with it.
00:49:02.920 And then that was,
00:49:04.900 remember,
00:49:05.420 it was a conspiracy theory.
00:49:06.180 Conspiracy theory,
00:49:06.800 conspiracy theory.
00:49:07.620 And then there she is
00:49:08.380 at the 9-11 memorial
00:49:09.460 and then she collapses
00:49:10.160 into a van.
00:49:11.260 And everybody's like,
00:49:11.700 whoa, hold up.
00:49:12.840 Are we allowed to ask questions
00:49:13.780 now about her state of health?
00:49:15.480 And she said that it was
00:49:16.320 about dehydration
00:49:17.140 and it wasn't anything else
00:49:18.180 and people were very suspicious.
00:49:19.700 I feel like Joe Biden
00:49:21.560 has been staving off
00:49:22.720 the fact that he is
00:49:23.740 a vastly diminished person.
00:49:27.140 Since, I mean,
00:49:27.600 all you have to do is watch it.
00:49:28.560 It was so funny.
00:49:29.380 There are literally people
00:49:30.480 in the Democratic media
00:49:31.900 and they are.
00:49:32.720 They are the Democratic
00:49:33.340 Establishment Party media.
00:49:34.560 It's insane.
00:49:35.320 I mean, I've never seen
00:49:36.080 the whole merger
00:49:36.880 of the media
00:49:37.480 and the Democratic Party
00:49:38.260 the way that we have seen
00:49:38.980 in the recent past.
00:49:40.200 It's crazy
00:49:40.840 and I've been watching
00:49:41.380 it my entire life.
00:49:42.280 It's never reached this level.
00:49:43.840 They will literally call you
00:49:44.800 a conspiracy theorist
00:49:45.740 if you play a tape
00:49:46.840 of Joe Biden
00:49:47.360 from eight years ago.
00:49:48.200 If you play a tape
00:49:49.020 of him with Paul Ryan
00:49:49.900 where he's, you know,
00:49:51.780 being his smarmy self
00:49:53.040 but he's at least with it
00:49:54.080 and then you play
00:49:54.760 a tape of him now
00:49:55.320 slurring his words
00:49:56.360 and falling off
00:49:57.620 at the end of sentences
00:49:58.460 and forgetting where he is,
00:50:00.560 they're like,
00:50:00.860 oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
00:50:01.800 He's fine.
00:50:02.260 Everything's good.
00:50:02.700 He's riding a bike.
00:50:03.400 Everything's fine.
00:50:04.140 Well, all it takes
00:50:05.140 is one moment
00:50:06.240 of complete lack
00:50:07.180 of clarity in public
00:50:07.980 and like real lack
00:50:09.640 of clarity,
00:50:10.060 not in the basement, right?
00:50:10.900 Something that really
00:50:12.280 shakes people up
00:50:13.460 and again,
00:50:14.560 I don't think,
00:50:15.160 not only is this
00:50:15.620 not unprecedented,
00:50:16.660 it's happened repeatedly
00:50:17.340 in American politics
00:50:18.100 with elderly candidates.
00:50:19.560 I mean, Bob Dole
00:50:20.120 fell off the stage
00:50:20.760 in 1996.
00:50:21.880 There are all sorts
00:50:22.280 of concerns
00:50:22.680 about Bob Dole's health
00:50:23.420 and then he fell off the stage
00:50:24.260 and people are like,
00:50:24.900 oh, well, you know,
00:50:25.440 he's a clumsy oaf
00:50:26.180 and also he's old
00:50:26.840 and what are we going
00:50:27.220 to do about that?
00:50:28.420 And they voted
00:50:29.860 for Bill Clinton
00:50:30.540 and they voted
00:50:30.920 for Bill Clinton
00:50:31.360 and so I feel like
00:50:33.340 that's the predictable twist.
00:50:35.340 There's going to be
00:50:35.840 some other twist,
00:50:36.420 some black swan event
00:50:37.180 that I can't predict
00:50:37.860 but that one seems
00:50:38.840 like fairly obvious
00:50:39.660 and the more he's out
00:50:40.300 in public,
00:50:40.660 the better the chance
00:50:41.220 something like that
00:50:41.760 happens, I think.
00:50:42.620 I'm not rooting for it.
00:50:43.380 I just think that
00:50:43.760 that's a reality.
00:50:44.460 When you're 78 years old
00:50:45.520 and you are not
00:50:46.660 who you once were
00:50:47.500 and they're asking
00:50:48.420 15-hour days of you
00:50:49.860 campaigning,
00:50:51.620 that is not a recipe
00:50:52.340 for success.
00:50:52.540 Are they going
00:50:52.960 to have him
00:50:53.280 out in public?
00:50:53.880 I mean,
00:50:54.040 I guess that's the question.
00:50:54.800 I think they have to.
00:50:55.500 Yeah, I sort of doubt
00:50:57.640 that he's going to
00:50:58.960 actually hit the campaign trail
00:51:00.500 but I do agree,
00:51:01.680 I think he's going
00:51:02.220 to have to debate
00:51:02.980 and debates
00:51:03.480 are long experiences
00:51:04.920 and President Trump
00:51:06.020 has already said
00:51:06.500 he wants Biden
00:51:07.260 to take a drug test
00:51:08.100 before so they don't
00:51:08.880 just pump him
00:51:09.640 full of uppers
00:51:10.360 so he can get
00:51:10.820 through an hour of debate.
00:51:12.040 You know,
00:51:12.280 the question is
00:51:12.900 on the October surprise,
00:51:14.580 not just something
00:51:15.600 that happens naturally
00:51:16.520 but something that
00:51:18.040 the campaigns
00:51:18.960 have been holding on to
00:51:20.000 and two weeks
00:51:20.540 before the election
00:51:21.080 like the Access Hollywood tape.
00:51:22.260 You're going to release it
00:51:23.300 and I don't know
00:51:24.140 what they're going to do
00:51:24.780 on Biden.
00:51:25.520 You know,
00:51:25.680 Biden's been in public life
00:51:26.560 for a very long time.
00:51:27.740 The rumor
00:51:28.420 among all these
00:51:29.280 other stupid rumors
00:51:30.220 that they talk about
00:51:31.200 with President Trump
00:51:31.900 is they're going to have
00:51:32.720 some member
00:51:33.240 of the Trump family
00:51:34.040 on tape
00:51:34.540 criticizing him
00:51:35.600 and talking about
00:51:35.980 how terrible he is
00:51:36.680 from one of his children
00:51:37.480 or Melania
00:51:38.320 or something like that
00:51:39.180 to which I would respond.
00:51:41.320 Getting a wife
00:51:42.120 on tape
00:51:42.740 complaining about her husband
00:51:44.040 is not exactly
00:51:45.320 a man bites dog story.
00:51:46.700 Okay,
00:51:46.820 that is a sort of
00:51:47.520 natural thing
00:51:48.380 in the flow of marriages.
00:51:50.160 The trouble is,
00:51:51.100 I mean,
00:51:51.280 if something like that
00:51:52.200 is the best they've got,
00:51:52.880 it's nothing.
00:51:53.820 They've already thrown
00:51:55.080 at President Trump
00:51:55.920 everything they've got.
00:51:57.560 I mean,
00:51:57.680 they've invented things
00:51:58.540 and those haven't stuck.
00:51:59.880 So it's hard to imagine
00:52:01.040 that they've got
00:52:01.540 any October surprise left.
00:52:02.560 Don't you think we'll see
00:52:03.060 a leak of his tax records?
00:52:04.200 I think that's what
00:52:04.760 we're going to see.
00:52:05.360 And I think,
00:52:06.080 of course,
00:52:06.320 they're going to have
00:52:06.780 some tape of Melania
00:52:07.660 saying something bad.
00:52:08.660 But to your point,
00:52:09.500 unless it's something
00:52:10.020 truly hideous,
00:52:11.180 I just can't imagine
00:52:12.360 it sticking.
00:52:13.180 I think it's the tax records.
00:52:14.640 And the spectrum
00:52:15.020 of truly hideous for Trump
00:52:16.120 is not the spectrum
00:52:17.320 of truly hideous
00:52:17.920 for normal human beings,
00:52:18.800 right?
00:52:19.760 I mean,
00:52:20.000 Melania could be like,
00:52:21.160 yeah,
00:52:21.360 he's off in the closet
00:52:22.060 banging nine women
00:52:22.880 at the same time.
00:52:23.520 Or I'll be like,
00:52:24.500 USA!
00:52:25.800 USA!
00:52:28.600 Matt,
00:52:29.000 what do you think?
00:52:30.880 Yeah,
00:52:31.300 well,
00:52:31.620 first of all,
00:52:32.580 the idea that wives
00:52:33.680 complain about their husband,
00:52:34.680 I'm sure my wife
00:52:35.600 has never complained
00:52:36.300 about me one time.
00:52:37.400 No,
00:52:37.420 you're right.
00:52:38.680 You're right.
00:52:39.500 But I also,
00:52:40.460 you know,
00:52:40.680 I wonder if everything
00:52:41.860 is baked in
00:52:42.700 for both of these guys.
00:52:43.880 I mean,
00:52:44.040 you talk about
00:52:44.500 the health issue.
00:52:45.560 This is one of the reasons
00:52:46.300 why I say he's not
00:52:47.120 going to debate it
00:52:47.840 because exactly
00:52:48.740 what Ben's talking about,
00:52:49.720 a moment where he really
00:52:50.860 appears to just lose it
00:52:52.040 and freeze.
00:52:52.860 That's what,
00:52:53.420 that's the risk.
00:52:54.280 And so why would you
00:52:55.460 even take that risk,
00:52:57.000 especially when you can,
00:52:58.080 you can get out of it
00:52:58.740 just by giving,
00:53:00.160 setting some standard
00:53:01.820 or something Trump
00:53:02.780 needs to do
00:53:03.440 in order for you to debate.
00:53:04.460 Like,
00:53:04.960 I mean,
00:53:05.120 really anything,
00:53:05.820 just something,
00:53:06.580 it could be something
00:53:06.880 with racial justice.
00:53:08.300 Trump needs to pledge
00:53:09.420 to do this or that thing
00:53:10.340 that he's not going to do.
00:53:11.380 And then you can always say,
00:53:12.160 well,
00:53:12.300 I want to debate,
00:53:12.880 but he won't do it,
00:53:13.480 so I can't,
00:53:13.960 so we're not going to debate.
00:53:14.460 But even with the health thing,
00:53:16.160 I wonder if,
00:53:17.560 short of something
00:53:18.620 really catastrophic,
00:53:19.700 like,
00:53:20.080 I kind of think
00:53:21.320 it would have to come out
00:53:22.180 that Biden is currently dead.
00:53:24.980 Anything short of that,
00:53:26.320 I wonder if people
00:53:27.600 are just going to say,
00:53:28.320 well,
00:53:28.440 yeah,
00:53:28.580 he's an old guy
00:53:29.360 and we know that,
00:53:30.820 but the reason
00:53:31.360 we're electing him
00:53:32.060 is because he's not Trump,
00:53:33.180 number one,
00:53:34.080 and number two,
00:53:35.580 you know,
00:53:35.860 this is,
00:53:36.340 he's a transitional candidate,
00:53:37.800 so we don't even need him
00:53:39.540 to,
00:53:39.960 you know,
00:53:40.240 be healthy
00:53:40.740 for the entire term.
00:53:41.800 We just need a Democrat
00:53:43.200 in there.
00:53:43.560 We just need to win.
00:53:44.940 Yeah.
00:53:46.840 Interesting.
00:53:47.840 The one thing we know
00:53:48.980 is that we don't know
00:53:49.660 everything yet.
00:53:50.460 That's one of the reasons,
00:53:51.320 by the way,
00:53:51.660 that I hate this whole idea
00:53:52.540 of early voting,
00:53:53.200 and both parties
00:53:53.780 are really calling
00:53:54.360 for early voting right now,
00:53:55.520 because when parties
00:53:57.620 are desperate
00:53:58.080 and in times of corruption,
00:53:59.100 they always call on early voting.
00:54:00.700 You shouldn't vote early.
00:54:02.400 Listen,
00:54:02.640 I've been open about this.
00:54:05.560 Ben and I,
00:54:06.200 when we first started the company,
00:54:07.160 we agreed,
00:54:07.620 we don't think
00:54:09.740 that the highest level
00:54:11.300 of transparency attainable
00:54:12.640 for a media organization
00:54:14.600 is to peddle
00:54:16.140 the lie of objectivity.
00:54:18.140 We think that the highest level
00:54:19.020 of transparency
00:54:19.600 is to own your biases,
00:54:21.120 and so I've been open
00:54:21.700 about my biases
00:54:22.540 at every point
00:54:23.440 along this journey,
00:54:24.500 and you know
00:54:25.120 that I'm most likely
00:54:26.620 going to vote
00:54:27.620 for Donald Trump in 2020
00:54:28.740 after having not voted
00:54:30.220 for the president
00:54:30.880 in 2016,
00:54:32.520 which I also told you
00:54:33.520 at the time.
00:54:34.740 Nevertheless,
00:54:35.160 the reason I say
00:54:35.800 most likely to vote
00:54:36.760 for Donald Trump
00:54:37.400 in 2020
00:54:38.260 is because there are still,
00:54:39.840 I grant the possibility
00:54:41.000 that there are things
00:54:41.740 that we do not yet know.
00:54:43.520 Could any of those things
00:54:44.620 cause me to vote
00:54:45.280 for a Democrat?
00:54:46.340 Listen,
00:54:46.660 it's not impossible
00:54:47.600 that I would vote
00:54:48.180 for a Democrat for president.
00:54:49.380 It would have to be
00:54:49.980 like one step short
00:54:50.940 of revolution.
00:54:51.560 Like,
00:54:51.680 you would have to believe
00:54:52.500 that the Republican candidate
00:54:54.060 was such a clear
00:54:55.320 and present danger
00:54:56.080 to the country
00:54:57.260 that you couldn't
00:54:58.300 even leave it to chance,
00:54:59.280 right?
00:54:59.440 That you'd be voting
00:55:00.000 against everything
00:55:00.780 you believe in
00:55:01.580 would mean that
00:55:02.320 whatever that person
00:55:03.140 represented would have
00:55:03.900 to be even more
00:55:05.060 of what you don't believe in.
00:55:06.280 Is that likely to happen
00:55:07.500 in this situation?
00:55:08.780 Of course not.
00:55:09.920 As you said,
00:55:10.900 they've thrown everything
00:55:11.460 they've got at
00:55:12.420 President Trump.
00:55:14.140 I think we know
00:55:14.620 most of what there is
00:55:15.360 to know about him.
00:55:16.120 Nevertheless,
00:55:16.740 I do believe you're supposed
00:55:17.620 to keep your options open.
00:55:18.940 You're supposed to make
00:55:19.400 these guys earn your votes.
00:55:20.780 And it's possible
00:55:21.320 that there could be things
00:55:22.240 that made it impossible
00:55:23.320 for you to pull the lever
00:55:24.560 for someone.
00:55:26.000 Vote early.
00:55:26.580 this term that everyone's using
00:55:28.440 used to be connected
00:55:29.420 to another term,
00:55:30.480 vote often, right?
00:55:31.980 Vote early and vote often.
00:55:33.380 And it really is
00:55:33.960 the same thing now.
00:55:34.740 It's just a little wink
00:55:35.740 at corruption.
00:55:37.900 But absolutely,
00:55:38.780 I think that...
00:55:40.300 Quick note on this,
00:55:41.320 by the way.
00:55:41.500 Please, yeah.
00:55:42.080 So it's kind of amazing
00:55:44.000 how both parties
00:55:44.620 box them in with regard
00:55:45.720 to the procedures of voting.
00:55:47.800 So Donald Trump,
00:55:48.460 on the one hand,
00:55:48.960 he was like,
00:55:49.700 mail-in voting,
00:55:50.480 it's a threat to the Republic.
00:55:51.540 Mail-in voting is really,
00:55:52.600 really bad.
00:55:53.120 Oppose universal mail-in voting.
00:55:53.980 And by the way,
00:55:54.500 he is correct.
00:55:55.020 The fact that universal mail-in voting,
00:55:56.160 which is not the same
00:55:56.760 as an absentee ballot,
00:55:57.920 is really, really bad.
00:55:59.240 The idea that you're
00:55:59.900 just going to be at home
00:56:00.520 and somebody's going
00:56:00.980 to send you a ballot,
00:56:01.920 and then we're going
00:56:02.380 to have ballot harvesters
00:56:03.340 who, like you,
00:56:04.920 because they know
00:56:05.300 which party you're a member of,
00:56:06.160 they're going to show up
00:56:06.580 at your front door,
00:56:07.220 and you weren't going to vote
00:56:07.820 because you really didn't care.
00:56:08.600 But now,
00:56:09.300 you're going to vote
00:56:09.940 because the ballot harvester
00:56:10.740 shows up.
00:56:11.280 That's right for fraud.
00:56:12.480 That's the best case scenario
00:56:13.660 of what happens with ballot harvesters.
00:56:14.340 It's right for,
00:56:15.080 at the very least,
00:56:16.260 massive confusion
00:56:17.020 because the standards
00:56:17.720 are very unclear.
00:56:18.820 But politically,
00:56:20.260 it is malfeasance
00:56:21.700 to talk about
00:56:22.700 how bad it is
00:56:23.600 to do mail-in voting
00:56:24.660 because you've now convinced
00:56:25.880 your entire base
00:56:26.560 not to do mail-in voting.
00:56:27.780 Now, by the same,
00:56:29.400 which, by the way,
00:56:30.020 is why Trump then
00:56:30.520 reversed himself in Florida.
00:56:31.740 He's like, wait a second,
00:56:32.380 they're a bunch of old people
00:56:32.980 who are going to vote for me
00:56:33.520 in Florida.
00:56:33.900 Mail-in voting in Florida is good.
00:56:34.980 Everywhere else is bad.
00:56:36.000 In Florida, it's very good.
00:56:37.220 The Democrats,
00:56:38.080 because they're idiots,
00:56:39.220 did the precise opposite mistake.
00:56:41.380 They were like,
00:56:41.800 you know what?
00:56:42.560 It's super dangerous
00:56:43.300 to go to the polls, guys.
00:56:44.240 The only thing that's important
00:56:45.420 is mail-in voting.
00:56:46.280 Mail-in voting
00:56:46.660 is super duper important.
00:56:48.260 You should never,
00:56:49.740 ever go out
00:56:50.200 and vote on the day of the election
00:56:51.220 because you might spread the COVID.
00:56:53.060 And Donald Trump
00:56:53.560 is trying to skew the election
00:56:54.380 by stopping the mail-in voting.
00:56:56.120 So what's going to happen?
00:56:57.400 Democrats aren't going to show up
00:56:58.240 on election day
00:56:58.700 because they're going to be
00:56:59.080 afraid of COVID, right?
00:56:59.780 So now the Democrats are starting
00:57:01.060 to, it's so amusing to watch.
00:57:02.820 The Democrats are starting to be like,
00:57:04.120 you know what?
00:57:04.740 Maybe we can vote in person now.
00:57:06.780 Maybe we can't,
00:57:07.440 like the NBA,
00:57:08.580 they went on strike
00:57:09.340 for literally 3.7 seconds.
00:57:11.860 The WNBA went on strike
00:57:12.920 and their fan was super pissed.
00:57:13.940 The NBA went on strike
00:57:14.980 and for like 3.7 seconds
00:57:17.500 they were on strike
00:57:18.100 and then they realized,
00:57:19.020 wait a second,
00:57:19.900 we're striking literally
00:57:20.720 against our own business
00:57:21.500 because we're idiots.
00:57:22.480 And then they came back
00:57:23.240 and the concession
00:57:24.280 they received from the owners
00:57:25.220 is the owners said
00:57:26.020 that they would use their arenas
00:57:27.480 for voting places.
00:57:29.120 Well, wait a second,
00:57:29.600 I thought five seconds ago
00:57:30.420 it was super dangerous
00:57:31.200 to vote in person.
00:57:32.220 But now apparently not.
00:57:33.480 Do you get the feeling
00:57:33.980 that COVID is ever
00:57:34.560 like a political thing
00:57:35.380 for the Democrats?
00:57:36.240 Like ever just a little bit?
00:57:37.500 Like the COVID handling
00:57:38.200 is just a little bit political?
00:57:40.080 How dare you?
00:57:40.460 Quick note, by the way,
00:57:41.000 I think that as a political matter,
00:57:41.980 we should open a show
00:57:42.820 on Broadway
00:57:43.420 just for the sake of saying
00:57:44.920 that Broadway should be open
00:57:45.940 because they've had zero deaths
00:57:48.020 and zero cases in Manhattan
00:57:49.380 for weeks at this point
00:57:50.420 and they're still not opening
00:57:51.540 that place
00:57:51.920 because it's because
00:57:52.920 of the political incentive structure.
00:57:54.700 O-K-L-A-H-O-M-A,
00:57:57.960 Oklahoma.
00:57:59.180 That's the only one I could do.
00:58:00.380 Is that even a state anymore?
00:58:01.660 I thought that Gorsuch
00:58:02.420 gave that one away.
00:58:03.340 I can't even do it.
00:58:04.320 We've drifted well off of the,
00:58:05.980 I was about to say
00:58:06.500 off the reservation,
00:58:07.180 but I think it's actually
00:58:07.800 an inappropriate joke
00:58:08.680 under the circumstances.
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01:01:15.020 So because
01:01:16.020 we have a lot
01:01:17.700 of actual fans
01:01:18.700 who watch the program
01:01:20.040 by a lot,
01:01:21.020 I mean basically
01:01:21.540 it's Laurel, Margo,
01:01:23.240 two or three others.
01:01:24.200 We know their actual names.
01:01:25.020 That's how close we are
01:01:25.620 to our fans
01:01:26.040 and also how few
01:01:26.620 of them there are.
01:01:27.240 It's not great,
01:01:28.020 you guys.
01:01:28.700 Nevertheless,
01:01:29.300 because they're watching
01:01:30.340 and because we have
01:01:31.380 the Matt Walsh
01:01:32.760 the theocratic fascist
01:01:34.380 himself on the show,
01:01:35.620 I know that people
01:01:36.640 will be devastated
01:01:37.840 if we don't have
01:01:38.820 one Protestant
01:01:39.580 Catholic argument.
01:01:40.640 Yeah.
01:01:40.860 And so what I...
01:01:41.920 I'm just going to stay
01:01:42.380 over here, guys.
01:01:42.780 Go at it.
01:01:43.360 Go at it.
01:01:43.700 Enjoy yourselves.
01:01:44.320 There's no place
01:01:44.880 for you in this conversation,
01:01:45.720 my friend.
01:01:46.460 What I want to talk about
01:01:47.440 actually is the Catholicism...
01:01:49.860 That's why the Pope
01:01:50.320 is terrible.
01:01:51.180 Go!
01:01:51.880 And I don't mean this Pope.
01:01:53.200 I'm in the papacy itself
01:01:54.560 historically.
01:01:55.200 Martin Luther deserves
01:01:57.440 a theme song,
01:01:58.020 but if he has one,
01:01:58.520 I don't know what it is.
01:01:59.580 No, what I want to talk
01:02:00.660 about is the Catholicism
01:02:02.040 of Democrats
01:02:02.960 because we live
01:02:04.540 in a country
01:02:05.020 where every Democrat
01:02:07.420 is Catholic.
01:02:09.620 Every pro-abortion
01:02:11.540 Democrat in the country
01:02:13.380 is Catholic.
01:02:15.700 Now, to my understanding,
01:02:17.420 you're not even allowed
01:02:17.960 to basically...
01:02:18.680 Half of them
01:02:19.220 aren't even allowed
01:02:19.680 to take communion
01:02:20.380 in Catholic churches.
01:02:21.620 Because, nevertheless,
01:02:23.000 what is it about...
01:02:26.420 You can answer this
01:02:27.280 either way.
01:02:27.960 I'm setting it up
01:02:28.960 as being a jerk
01:02:29.800 because of our
01:02:30.540 Protestant-Catholic debates,
01:02:31.700 but I'm actually
01:02:32.180 very curious about it,
01:02:33.180 so don't take this
01:02:33.840 as a jab.
01:02:35.100 I want to know
01:02:35.560 what the relationship
01:02:36.400 between Democrat politicians
01:02:37.680 and Catholicism is.
01:02:39.540 Why one wields the other
01:02:41.040 and which is wielding which?
01:02:42.860 Matt.
01:02:45.280 I was just going to look up...
01:02:46.460 I didn't have a chance.
01:02:47.080 I was going to look up
01:02:47.380 statistics how many Democrats
01:02:48.720 are Catholic versus Protestant
01:02:49.700 because I'm pretty sure
01:02:50.500 there are more Protestants,
01:02:52.740 but I didn't have a chance.
01:02:53.300 They're more Protestant,
01:02:54.600 but Catholics are split.
01:02:57.420 If you look at just Democrats,
01:02:58.840 they're more Protestant,
01:02:59.680 but if you look at Catholics,
01:03:00.780 for some reason,
01:03:01.760 they're split 50-50
01:03:03.080 even though the Catholic Church
01:03:04.940 does not permit you
01:03:05.980 to support many of the things
01:03:07.980 the Democratic Party.
01:03:08.600 But I guess what I would say, too,
01:03:09.800 what I would say in all sincerity
01:03:11.960 is that, yes,
01:03:13.120 there may very well be
01:03:14.240 more Protestant Democrats
01:03:16.480 and there may very well be
01:03:17.620 more or an equal number
01:03:19.220 of Catholics who are Republican,
01:03:21.220 but that's not really the question.
01:03:22.720 The question is about
01:03:23.600 Democrat politicians
01:03:24.820 who operate against
01:03:30.180 everything that the church stands for
01:03:32.220 and tend to be devout.
01:03:33.560 Nevertheless,
01:03:34.100 wield Catholicism somewhat uniquely.
01:03:36.600 Yeah, I think the reason,
01:03:38.480 there are a few reasons for it,
01:03:39.760 but first of all,
01:03:40.660 these are sort of like
01:03:41.340 legacy Catholics
01:03:42.700 that were grandfathered in.
01:03:43.780 And they, you know,
01:03:44.180 they, we know,
01:03:45.700 so as the Democrat Party
01:03:47.200 has shifted
01:03:48.020 and we know that,
01:03:50.460 you know,
01:03:50.900 their grandparents
01:03:52.160 and their family
01:03:53.040 has been Catholic,
01:03:54.880 but so as a shift
01:03:56.960 in the Democrat Party
01:03:57.600 has happened,
01:03:58.060 it also has happened
01:03:58.720 in the church in America.
01:04:00.280 And part of the problem
01:04:02.020 is you point out
01:04:03.540 a lot of these Democrats
01:04:04.220 aren't supposed to be
01:04:04.920 taking communion
01:04:05.960 or they can't take communion.
01:04:07.780 And that's true.
01:04:08.380 I mean, none of them
01:04:08.980 should be taking communion
01:04:09.760 because they all support
01:04:10.780 open sin.
01:04:11.720 They're all committing
01:04:12.280 the sin of scandal,
01:04:13.260 a mortal sin
01:04:13.780 by supporting abortion.
01:04:15.080 So not a single one of them
01:04:16.260 is allowed to take communion.
01:04:17.640 But the problem is precisely
01:04:19.040 that almost all of them are.
01:04:20.920 It's very rare
01:04:21.720 that you hear about
01:04:22.420 one of these guys
01:04:23.320 actually being turned down
01:04:24.340 in communion.
01:04:25.080 And when it does happen,
01:04:26.040 the thing is that
01:04:26.540 the priest who does it
01:04:27.360 is shipped out of town
01:04:28.240 because a lot of these
01:04:29.280 bishops in America today
01:04:30.440 are basically bureaucrats,
01:04:32.360 not that far
01:04:34.300 from the Democrat
01:04:34.900 politicians themselves.
01:04:36.240 So I think if the rules
01:04:37.980 were actually enforced
01:04:39.140 and these Democrats
01:04:41.380 had to endure
01:04:42.300 the humiliation
01:04:43.600 of being turned down
01:04:45.080 for communion
01:04:45.840 and that sort of thing
01:04:46.620 and actually being rebuked
01:04:47.440 by their bishops,
01:04:48.640 then I don't think
01:04:49.600 you're going to have
01:04:49.920 as many Democrats
01:04:50.540 identifying themselves
01:04:51.280 as Catholic.
01:04:51.800 But that doesn't happen.
01:04:52.660 So they identify themselves
01:04:54.020 that way because they can
01:04:54.940 and no one stops them.
01:04:56.580 Yeah.
01:04:56.840 I mean, Joe Biden
01:04:57.520 is obviously an apostate
01:04:58.940 who does not believe
01:04:59.800 in the faith.
01:05:00.780 And he is obviously
01:05:02.920 in a state of grave mortal sin,
01:05:04.480 as Matt just mentioned,
01:05:05.960 this sin of scandal.
01:05:06.960 But you see it even
01:05:08.360 beyond the abortion question.
01:05:09.800 It is not acceptable
01:05:11.080 for faithful Catholics
01:05:12.720 to support socialism.
01:05:14.240 You can't do it.
01:05:15.200 There have been many
01:05:15.740 papal encyclicals
01:05:16.620 on this topic.
01:05:17.580 Rerum Novarum,
01:05:18.940 Quota Apostolici Muneris,
01:05:20.880 Centesimus Annus.
01:05:21.700 I mean, it goes on
01:05:22.600 and on and on.
01:05:23.560 You cannot do it.
01:05:24.340 Read the Catechism
01:05:24.960 of the Catholic Church.
01:05:25.940 The trouble is
01:05:26.940 there are many people
01:05:27.980 who identify as Catholic
01:05:29.340 who don't really believe
01:05:30.280 in the faith.
01:05:31.060 Part of this may be
01:05:31.960 because the Catholic Church
01:05:33.520 in the Christian tradition
01:05:34.680 believes in infant baptism,
01:05:36.440 whereas more modern iterations
01:05:38.680 of Protestantism
01:05:39.680 over the last
01:05:40.400 two or three hundred years
01:05:41.380 have rejected infant baptism
01:05:43.460 to varying degrees.
01:05:44.320 Many Protestants
01:05:44.860 do support infant baptism.
01:05:46.340 So when it comes
01:05:47.320 to more evangelical
01:05:48.520 or modern Christian
01:05:49.980 Protestant denominations,
01:05:51.260 they believe that it requires
01:05:52.420 this act of will
01:05:53.360 that you have to do
01:05:54.540 when you're 20 years old
01:05:55.360 or 25 years old.
01:05:56.560 And so you're much
01:05:57.200 more conscious of it.
01:05:58.300 One thing you'll notice
01:05:59.260 is the most conservative
01:06:00.760 people in the country
01:06:01.600 very often will be Catholics.
01:06:04.020 If you think of people
01:06:04.760 like Bill Buckley,
01:06:05.520 Phyllis Schlafly,
01:06:06.220 Russell Kirk,
01:06:06.960 these guys are often Catholic.
01:06:09.460 And yet there are
01:06:09.900 so many liberal politicians,
01:06:11.360 Mario Cuomo, Joe Biden,
01:06:12.600 Nancy Pelosi,
01:06:13.500 who at least say
01:06:14.600 that they're Catholic,
01:06:15.240 but they're not.
01:06:15.980 One thing that I would
01:06:17.820 point to for these
01:06:19.640 really conservative Catholics
01:06:20.760 is they're all reverts
01:06:22.260 or they're all converts.
01:06:23.940 They're people who did
01:06:24.940 either float away
01:06:26.260 from the faith
01:06:26.760 and then they came back to it
01:06:28.340 or they chose it
01:06:29.820 from some other religion.
01:06:31.240 And therefore,
01:06:32.760 they're thinking
01:06:33.340 very consciously about it.
01:06:35.200 I wish that these polls reflected
01:06:37.000 and these politicians
01:06:38.480 reflected people
01:06:39.380 who actually practice
01:06:40.960 the faith
01:06:41.520 versus people
01:06:42.560 who are merely
01:06:43.800 identifying in that way
01:06:44.800 in the same way
01:06:45.560 that someone like
01:06:46.020 Douglas Murray
01:06:46.640 would identify
01:06:47.400 as a Christian atheist,
01:06:48.580 which is obviously preposterous,
01:06:50.420 but it is getting
01:06:51.260 at something alluding
01:06:52.040 to a history
01:06:52.640 or a tradition
01:06:53.200 or an aesthetic.
01:06:54.440 And Ben,
01:06:54.860 you could probably speak
01:06:55.460 to this very clearly
01:06:57.080 between people
01:06:57.840 who practice Judaism
01:06:59.360 and people who are merely,
01:07:00.880 say, ethnically Jewish,
01:07:01.780 but they don't actually
01:07:02.340 believe anything about Judaism.
01:07:03.800 In Protestantism,
01:07:04.680 we don't have any of this.
01:07:05.800 We just pay poor boys
01:07:06.840 to have sex
01:07:07.360 with our wives, right?
01:07:08.940 Come on.
01:07:09.920 Come on.
01:07:11.200 It had to come up
01:07:12.240 at some point,
01:07:13.020 but it was...
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