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00:00:30.600 Hey everybody, this is Michael.

00:00:32.140 You're about to listen to our latest episode

00:00:34.160 of DAILYWIRE Backstage,

00:00:35.580 where I join Ben Shapiro, Andrew Plavin,

00:00:37.820 and the man who will one day fire me for real,

00:00:40.440 DAILYWIRE God King Jeremy Boring,

00:00:42.440 for a great conversation on politics and culture,

00:00:45.180 and where we answer questions from DAILYWIRE subscribers.

00:00:48.460 Without further ado, here is Backstage.

00:00:50.860 I think we're on.

00:00:51.620 Oh my gosh.

00:00:54.560 Welcome to the DAILYWIRE Backstage Spring Break Edition.

00:00:57.580 Unlike Girls Gone Wild,

00:00:59.280 Spring Break we have...

00:01:00.840 I can't even read that.

00:01:03.000 I got the Girls Gone Wild

00:01:04.480 in the whole show so far.

00:01:06.240 So far this is great, dude.

00:01:07.300 Unlike Girls Gone Wild,

00:01:08.040 you just start drooling.

00:01:09.240 Roll opening graphic.

00:01:10.360 So that's why you always do a test

00:01:27.380 of reading the teleprompter before the show,

00:01:29.520 which we definitely didn't do.

00:01:30.640 What if you hosted a show, dude?

00:01:31.800 Yeah, that's what I did.

00:01:33.140 Yeah, like you.

00:01:33.740 Yeah, Twitter thinks it'd be a great idea,

00:01:35.500 and Twitter couldn't possibly be.

00:01:36.800 I am Jeremy Boren,

00:01:39.700 God King of the DAILYWIRE,

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00:01:42.140 With me tonight, Ben Shapiro,

00:01:43.640 Andrew Klavan,

00:01:44.520 Elisha Krause,

00:01:46.000 the only married pregnant mother

00:01:47.300 ever to appear in a Spring Break edition of anything.

00:01:49.640 And we have a special guest tonight.

00:01:51.260 He is perhaps even grumpier than Ben

00:01:53.860 about needing to be...

00:01:55.660 And he does his show from a car.

00:01:58.620 You guys know this guy?

00:01:59.820 Yeah.

00:02:00.280 He works here.

00:02:01.480 Matt Walsh.

00:02:02.200 Yeah, Matt Walsh.

00:02:03.420 He's that well-known Buddhist?

00:02:05.800 Is that well-known yogin?

00:02:07.060 Yogin.

00:02:07.380 Yeah, that's right.

00:02:08.860 We're going to do something really cool tonight,

00:02:10.840 so pay attention.

00:02:11.480 If you sign up to become a DAILYWIRE annual subscriber

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00:02:27.020 You'll get to meet all of us after the show,

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00:02:29.580 because, let's be honest,

00:02:30.840 he doesn't want to meet you.

00:02:33.400 And also, we'll probably never see him again.

00:02:35.860 In fact, tonight, right now,

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00:02:51.020 Thank you guys for joining us tonight.

00:02:53.580 Well, now you can never get a job anywhere, so...

00:02:55.360 I appreciate it.

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00:03:08.940 Elisha, let them know how.

00:03:10.860 Yeah, you know,

00:03:12.380 I once worked for a really generous boss

00:03:14.100 who gave my husband and I

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00:03:18.540 on the beaches of Australia.

00:03:20.460 So when I heard the spring break edition

00:03:22.020 and the God King said

00:03:22.920 I would get to go to a beach,

00:03:24.160 I thought it would be better

00:03:25.720 than a green screen.

00:03:27.660 Anyway.

00:03:28.460 Elisha, you're not supposed

00:03:29.220 to ruin the joke.

00:03:31.540 Those are some of our best special effects

00:03:33.280 that we've ever done.

00:03:35.460 I don't know,

00:03:35.940 the special effect of Matt Walsh

00:03:37.240 in a Hawaiian shirt is pretty good.

00:03:39.300 Maybe you spent everything

00:03:40.840 trying to convince him to get here

00:03:42.280 and that's why I'm not actually

00:03:43.260 on a beach in Oahu.

00:03:44.960 He drove here in his studio.

00:03:47.820 All the way from the East Coast.

00:03:49.020 I'm glad it could make it across countries.

00:03:50.780 There's a lot for that car.

00:03:51.680 So yes,

00:03:53.260 you should sign up tonight.

00:03:54.540 Oh sorry,

00:03:55.100 the beach is so loud.

00:03:56.400 Excuse me a moment.

00:03:57.740 You should sign up

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00:04:02.560 you could have the chance to win

00:04:04.160 to sit in on that awful smoke-filled room.

00:04:06.800 I mean,

00:04:07.260 I feel really bad

00:04:08.080 being a married mom of three.

00:04:10.040 Like,

00:04:10.340 they're married

00:04:11.040 and have two kids at home

00:04:12.040 and this is their idea

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00:04:13.760 We should really do better, guys.

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00:04:22.520 and answered on the air.

00:04:24.420 And,

00:04:24.760 I mean,

00:04:25.060 if you thought that March Madness

00:04:26.460 was all about college basketball,

00:04:28.380 which is something

00:04:28.860 I just learned last year

00:04:30.020 as the reigning Daily Wire

00:04:31.040 March Madness bracket champ.

00:04:32.880 Did you just say

00:04:33.460 that March Madness

00:04:34.160 is about college basketball?

00:04:35.680 I've been wondering that

00:04:36.680 for three weeks.

00:04:38.780 I'm more just angry

00:04:40.840 that she won the pool

00:04:41.760 last year, Alicia.

00:04:42.700 I'm just reminding everyone

00:04:43.840 because I know

00:04:44.360 I'm not going to win again

00:04:45.180 this year.

00:04:45.600 But March Madness,

00:04:47.180 I think,

00:04:47.420 also stands for politics

00:04:48.480 this week

00:04:49.080 because this week,

00:04:51.300 the greatest news week ever,

00:04:53.680 you can go over

00:04:54.280 to our Facebook poll

00:04:55.200 and check out and vote

00:04:56.460 what do you think

00:04:57.160 the best story is

00:04:58.020 of this greatest news week ever.

00:04:59.680 A,

00:04:59.960 the Mueller report

00:05:00.860 destroys the Russian hoax,

00:05:02.900 the Russian collusion hoax.

00:05:04.680 Michael's super-duper

00:05:05.380 excited about that one.

00:05:06.440 B,

00:05:06.800 not a single Senate Democrat

00:05:08.260 votes for the Green New Deal.

00:05:09.900 C,

00:05:10.880 Jesse Smollett gets off scot-free.

00:05:13.620 Or D,

00:05:14.260 the economist apologizing

00:05:15.780 for calling Ben

00:05:16.820 an alt-writer.

00:05:19.800 Well,

00:05:20.860 that sounds great.

00:05:21.580 That sounds great.

00:05:22.880 Can we go?

00:05:23.620 I think that the poll tonight

00:05:25.520 is just an outline

00:05:26.280 of tonight's show.

00:05:28.160 I'm glad that we finally

00:05:29.180 organized this thing.

00:05:30.100 Basically,

00:05:30.740 what there is to talk about

00:05:31.700 is the greatest news week

00:05:33.960 in the history of...

00:05:35.100 I do have to point out

00:05:36.220 that our definition

00:05:36.940 of great conservative news weeks

00:05:38.560 has radically changed

00:05:39.540 because it used to be

00:05:40.800 that a great conservative news week

00:05:41.920 was like,

00:05:42.260 you know,

00:05:42.440 appointing a Supreme Court justice

00:05:43.740 or changing a tax cut.

00:05:45.280 Tearing down the Berlin Wall.

00:05:46.020 Right.

00:05:46.660 Great conservative...

00:05:47.460 Winning World War II.

00:05:48.480 Like,

00:05:48.640 great conservative news weeks.

00:05:50.080 Now it's like,

00:05:50.840 the president is not

00:05:52.040 a Russian catch-paw.

00:05:53.500 Take that,

00:05:54.260 leftist.

00:05:54.780 Eat it.

00:05:55.960 The reason it's

00:05:56.660 the greatest news week

00:05:57.580 is obvious.

00:05:58.260 I mean,

00:05:58.500 it's not...

00:05:59.020 We're saying,

00:05:59.420 okay,

00:05:59.620 good,

00:05:59.740 the president's not

00:06:00.340 a stooge of Russia.

00:06:01.100 That's great.

00:06:01.680 It's the fact

00:06:02.440 that a narrative

00:06:03.620 that the leftist told us

00:06:04.680 for over two years

00:06:06.520 was not just 40% wrong,

00:06:08.900 was not just 60%.

00:06:11.040 It was 175,000 million percent wrong.

00:06:15.660 That's Yale math right here.

00:06:16.340 That's Yale math right here for you.

00:06:18.160 It was...

00:06:18.620 And it was just

00:06:19.800 the perfect victory.

00:06:21.420 I think it deserves

00:06:22.220 a bigger drink

00:06:23.580 than we're used to

00:06:24.280 drinking around here.

00:06:25.620 You should talk about

00:06:26.140 that whiskey,

00:06:26.560 by the way.

00:06:27.020 Did you see what it is?

00:06:27.920 Look at the label of it.

00:06:29.000 If you just...

00:06:30.380 It says,

00:06:30.840 it's the Republicans'

00:06:31.860 pounce whiskey.

00:06:32.740 I love it.

00:06:33.000 That's right.

00:06:33.380 Republicans' pounce.

00:06:33.720 That's what it is.

00:06:34.420 Pounce whiskey.

00:06:35.160 It's a little picture of you.

00:06:36.580 It's a little Shapiro

00:06:38.580 riding a tiger

00:06:40.220 and pouncing.

00:06:41.800 And it says on the very bottom...

00:06:42.600 How did they get that picture

00:06:43.300 of you on the tiger?

00:06:44.020 Yeah.

00:06:44.420 I mean,

00:06:44.860 it's a live action photo.

00:06:46.060 And then it says on the bottom,

00:06:47.160 in case of indictment,

00:06:47.980 break, seal,

00:06:48.540 and pour over email servers.

00:06:49.900 It does say that

00:06:50.700 right on the bottom.

00:06:51.700 Pretty fantastic.

00:06:53.660 So, yeah.

00:06:54.260 The media fail here

00:06:56.540 is the real story, right?

00:06:57.920 The media and the Democratic

00:06:58.660 fail here.

00:06:59.220 Because all they had to do

00:07:00.920 was just say,

00:07:02.260 President Trump.

00:07:03.400 Weird.

00:07:04.380 Right?

00:07:04.560 That's all they had to do

00:07:05.100 for like the last couple of years.

00:07:06.020 Just say,

00:07:06.540 this guy?

00:07:07.340 Really?

00:07:08.000 Hmm?

00:07:08.420 And instead it was,

00:07:09.300 no, he works for Vladimir Putin.

00:07:10.880 No, without a doubt,

00:07:12.340 the evidence is going to come forth.

00:07:13.380 And you have schmucks

00:07:13.960 like Adam Schiff

00:07:14.920 pretending that he has

00:07:16.040 backroom knowledge.

00:07:17.520 My favorite, of course,

00:07:18.500 was John Brennan

00:07:19.400 suggesting for two years

00:07:20.600 on national television

00:07:21.500 that he had secret information

00:07:23.120 that said that Donald Trump

00:07:24.360 was in fact working

00:07:25.240 for Vladimir Putin.

00:07:25.960 And then it comes out

00:07:26.840 that that's not true.

00:07:27.400 And he says,

00:07:28.040 well, maybe I got a little ahead

00:07:29.000 of the evidence.

00:07:29.360 I just sort of assumed.

00:07:30.400 It's like,

00:07:30.640 you ran the intelligence services.

00:07:32.820 That's right.

00:07:33.200 You piece of crap.

00:07:34.540 You are the head of the CIA.

00:07:36.660 What's so beautiful about this,

00:07:37.740 I agree with you

00:07:38.440 that it's a negative victory.

00:07:39.720 It's not a positive victory.

00:07:41.280 However,

00:07:42.300 the destruction

00:07:42.940 of the mainstream media

00:07:44.080 that, as I've been saying

00:07:45.240 for many years,

00:07:45.980 the thing about the mainstream media

00:07:47.020 is not the way

00:07:47.600 they cover Trump.

00:07:48.500 I'm happy to have the media

00:07:49.420 go after the president.

00:07:50.360 He's a powerful man.

00:07:51.160 I want all powerful people

00:07:52.120 to be hunted like dogs.

00:07:53.880 That's absolutely great American.

00:07:55.240 He's a French revolutionary.

00:07:56.160 Yeah, great American journalism.

00:07:57.360 However,

00:07:58.320 it's what they did with Obama

00:07:59.780 for eight years.

00:08:00.820 They turned a blind eye

00:08:01.800 during the IRS scandal,

00:08:03.040 the Fast and Furious scandal.

00:08:04.380 He turned every department.

00:08:06.160 You know,

00:08:06.300 you talk about Jussie Smollett.

00:08:07.780 He turned Washington

00:08:09.040 into Chicago.

00:08:10.380 Yeah.

00:08:10.500 And what happened,

00:08:11.800 all these guys

00:08:12.700 who did this,

00:08:13.360 the John Brennans,

00:08:14.220 the James Clappers,

00:08:15.300 the James Comeys,

00:08:16.360 they're all his guys.

00:08:17.460 And it's because

00:08:18.500 the press acted

00:08:19.800 as a ring of invisibility

00:08:21.140 that it was like

00:08:21.780 they turned Obama

00:08:22.740 into Gollum.

00:08:23.320 This is a great line

00:08:24.940 that kept telling me

00:08:25.540 about how Obama,

00:08:26.540 his biggest scandal

00:08:27.160 was the khaki suit.

00:08:28.100 It was the khaki suit.

00:08:29.600 The truest thing

00:08:31.040 ever uttered by an Obama

00:08:32.260 was actually uttered

00:08:33.920 by the First Lady,

00:08:35.520 Michelle Obama,

00:08:36.320 recently unseated

00:08:37.200 from her number one position

00:08:38.660 on the New York Times.

00:08:39.440 Who did that?

00:08:40.460 I can't remember.

00:08:41.620 It was an all right guy.

00:08:42.740 It was an all right guy.

00:08:44.260 And she said,

00:08:45.380 unironically,

00:08:46.580 we're going to bring

00:08:47.560 South Side Chicago values

00:08:49.520 to Washington, D.C.

00:08:50.520 Yes, she did.

00:08:50.900 And all I know about

00:08:51.920 the values

00:08:52.500 of the South Side Chicago.

00:08:53.460 All I know about

00:08:54.000 the South Side Chicago

00:08:54.780 is that it's the baddest

00:08:55.720 part of town.

00:08:56.780 That's the only thing

00:08:57.720 I know about.

00:08:58.240 The only film clip

00:08:59.000 anybody knows about Chicago

00:09:00.180 is Al Capone beating

00:09:01.080 someone to death

00:09:01.580 in a baseball game.

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00:09:06.780 credibility rating

00:09:07.580 is Michael Knowles'

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00:10:33.220 Were you improvising

00:10:34.120 that last part?

00:10:34.580 I just made those three up.

00:10:35.420 It's a really good ad read,

00:10:35.880 but I can do the last part

00:10:36.520 faster.

00:10:36.780 That's what it needs

00:10:39.400 and he's a fast talker.

00:10:40.440 I'm not a fan of it.

00:10:42.760 So here's the question

00:10:44.320 on a going forward basis.

00:10:46.260 What should Trump focus on

00:10:47.600 when it comes to

00:10:48.360 the Mueller report?

00:10:48.960 Should he let it go?

00:10:50.080 Should he try and ram this

00:10:51.740 down the necks of Democrats?

00:10:53.400 What do you think

00:10:54.040 is useful here?

00:10:55.320 My personal feeling

00:10:56.980 on this

00:10:57.420 is that he should obviously

00:10:59.100 go at the media,

00:11:00.320 but that if he tries

00:11:01.500 to turn this into

00:11:02.200 a cause to love

00:11:02.820 that I'm going to uncover

00:11:03.780 the corruption

00:11:04.340 in the FBI

00:11:05.540 and the CIA

00:11:06.500 and we're going to go

00:11:07.300 after all the nefarious actors,

00:11:09.080 it feels good,

00:11:10.360 but on a political grounds,

00:11:12.100 I'm not sure

00:11:12.620 that that just doesn't

00:11:13.260 look like petty vindictiveness

00:11:14.340 as opposed to,

00:11:15.600 because remember,

00:11:17.100 there's another half

00:11:17.760 to this story,

00:11:18.260 which is that everybody's

00:11:19.040 saying the media

00:11:19.900 were humiliated,

00:11:20.660 which is true.

00:11:21.300 The Democrats

00:11:21.660 were humiliated,

00:11:22.380 which is true.

00:11:23.620 The truth is also

00:11:24.860 that Donald Trump

00:11:25.520 spent two years

00:11:26.100 saying that Robert Mueller

00:11:26.820 was a shill of the left

00:11:28.060 who was going to indict him.

00:11:29.820 And then Robert Mueller

00:11:30.440 turned out to be honest.

00:11:31.920 Robert Mueller

00:11:32.340 ended up doing his job,

00:11:33.420 which many of us

00:11:34.200 were saying that

00:11:34.860 that was probably

00:11:35.740 going to happen.

00:11:36.780 So him going after

00:11:38.140 everybody now,

00:11:38.940 it seems like now

00:11:39.660 would be the time

00:11:40.160 where it's magnanimity

00:11:41.180 in victory,

00:11:41.840 at least to the

00:11:42.640 intelligence community

00:11:43.540 generally.

00:11:44.220 Yeah, I can agree with that.

00:11:44.880 Or just ignore it

00:11:46.120 and move on to

00:11:47.240 the media are garbage.

00:11:48.300 And then every time

00:11:49.720 they attack him,

00:11:50.160 he says,

00:11:50.360 you guys were garbage

00:11:50.860 on this,

00:11:51.240 you're garbage on that too.

00:11:52.140 Yeah, you know,

00:11:52.700 I can't quite go with this

00:11:53.780 for a couple of reasons.

00:11:54.840 One, Karl Rove

00:11:55.560 says he should do this,

00:11:56.380 so we know it's

00:11:56.860 the wrong thing to do.

00:11:57.580 Well, I didn't know that.

00:11:58.480 Sorry to revise my opinion.

00:11:59.660 Karl Rove, by his own

00:12:00.660 admission,

00:12:01.380 said his biggest mistake

00:12:02.420 was basically positioning

00:12:04.100 Bush above the fray.

00:12:05.820 And so the fray

00:12:06.520 took Bush to pieces.

00:12:08.060 They blamed him

00:12:09.020 for the weather

00:12:09.540 in New Orleans,

00:12:10.320 you know.

00:12:10.640 Hurricane,

00:12:11.060 oh, that's your fault.

00:12:12.040 And Bush never struck back

00:12:13.420 because he had

00:12:13.740 too much dignity.

00:12:14.780 I don't think we have

00:12:15.260 to worry about Trump

00:12:15.940 having too much dignity.

00:12:17.240 I also don't think

00:12:18.960 magnanimity is actually

00:12:20.460 in his holster.

00:12:21.340 I don't think he actually

00:12:22.120 has that weapon.

00:12:23.020 So what I would do

00:12:23.740 if I were he,

00:12:24.660 I would definitely

00:12:25.740 go after the corruption.

00:12:26.980 I would definitely

00:12:27.560 make a lot of noise.

00:12:29.060 Nobody's going to jail

00:12:29.920 over this.

00:12:30.400 Hillary Clinton's

00:12:30.960 not going to jail.

00:12:31.560 Nobody's going to jail.

00:12:31.940 But I would just make noise

00:12:32.920 about it while doing

00:12:34.060 other things.

00:12:34.820 One of the things

00:12:35.360 about Trump

00:12:35.980 that I really do appreciate

00:12:37.320 is a lot of the noise

00:12:38.500 he makes covers up

00:12:39.820 the fact that he's doing

00:12:40.600 some important stuff.

00:12:41.920 You know,

00:12:42.100 he actually does things

00:12:43.340 that matter to us.

00:12:45.040 Like he's revamping

00:12:46.440 Fannie Mae

00:12:47.040 and Freddie Mac

00:12:47.780 which I think

00:12:48.180 is a huge deal.

00:12:49.760 And he does that

00:12:50.400 like off to the side

00:12:51.400 while everybody's

00:12:52.220 focusing on the noise.

00:12:53.380 That's one possibility.

00:12:54.520 The other possibility

00:12:55.160 is he doesn't even

00:12:55.840 know that's going on.

00:12:57.940 It's a possibility too.

00:12:59.180 But here's my problem

00:13:00.180 with him going after

00:13:01.040 the intel.

00:13:01.440 He's not running

00:13:01.920 against the intel community

00:13:02.900 in 2020.

00:13:03.460 No, that's true.

00:13:03.960 He's running against

00:13:04.460 the Democrats.

00:13:04.980 So run against Adam Schiff,

00:13:05.940 run against Chuck Schumer,

00:13:07.240 run against all the Democrats

00:13:08.380 who maintained

00:13:08.860 that this was the,

00:13:09.640 it was always the end

00:13:10.640 for Trump.

00:13:11.300 Run against the media

00:13:11.940 because everybody hates

00:13:12.620 the media as well they should.

00:13:14.560 But running against like

00:13:15.660 who cares?

00:13:16.780 Like James Clapper

00:13:17.400 isn't a big enough person

00:13:18.280 for him to punch at

00:13:19.000 except he,

00:13:19.880 like say what you want tonight,

00:13:20.920 right?

00:13:21.060 Tonight's his rally in Michigan.

00:13:22.540 Yeah.

00:13:22.820 Let him do his thing.

00:13:23.480 Oh yeah, have a victory lap.

00:13:24.260 Exactly.

00:13:24.720 Like enjoy yourself.

00:13:25.300 I think the important thing

00:13:26.100 though that is on his side

00:13:27.520 is that so many people

00:13:29.360 have been gutted

00:13:29.980 from the FBI

00:13:30.660 that if the New York Times

00:13:32.440 ran a front page headline

00:13:33.900 as it did during Watergate,

00:13:35.480 every time a guy quit,

00:13:36.720 we'd all be sitting around

00:13:37.480 going this is the biggest

00:13:38.280 scandal ever.

00:13:38.960 This has gutted

00:13:39.580 the intelligence community.

00:13:40.680 But they're all gone.

00:13:41.640 And the people who are there

00:13:42.800 are good.

00:13:43.200 You know, most FBI agents

00:13:44.520 are great cops

00:13:45.160 and they're doing a great job.

00:13:46.640 And so he doesn't,

00:13:47.580 he can constantly praise

00:13:48.780 the people who are there now.

00:13:50.040 He's really talking

00:13:50.920 about Obama.

00:13:51.540 And the people running

00:13:52.720 are echoes of Obama.

00:13:53.740 And then you've got Eric Holder

00:13:54.740 making these stupid comments

00:13:56.100 about how we should all feel

00:13:57.160 guilty.

00:13:57.560 America was never great.

00:13:58.560 You've got Joe Biden

00:13:59.240 apologizing for American

00:14:01.440 jurisprudence, you know.

00:14:03.820 So it's a reminder

00:14:05.600 of who he's running against

00:14:06.960 and why he's there

00:14:07.800 in the first place.

00:14:08.440 And so I've got

00:14:09.280 an interesting question

00:14:09.960 to kind of take it

00:14:10.920 in a slightly different direction.

00:14:13.340 Why did this story stick

00:14:15.500 the way that it did?

00:14:17.680 It occurs to me

00:14:18.500 that you could say

00:14:19.120 because the echo chamber

00:14:20.120 is so vast

00:14:20.880 and they were so dedicated to it.

00:14:22.420 But I tend to think

00:14:23.320 that most false narratives

00:14:24.680 that stick do so

00:14:25.960 because they have

00:14:27.400 some air of plausibility.

00:14:29.160 What made this story

00:14:30.200 seem plausible

00:14:31.060 and therefore

00:14:32.200 what allowed it

00:14:32.780 to get the kind of traction

00:14:33.560 that it did?

00:14:33.920 I mean, I think two factors.

00:14:34.860 And this is actually

00:14:35.560 a question that I think

00:14:36.660 is pretty well substantiated,

00:14:37.780 the answer anyway.

00:14:39.140 Two factors.

00:14:39.720 One, everyone thought

00:14:40.680 Hillary would win.

00:14:41.420 When she didn't win,

00:14:42.200 it had to be something nefarious

00:14:43.320 that meant that she didn't win.

00:14:44.860 The Democrats still

00:14:45.720 cannot understand

00:14:46.520 that Hillary was the worst

00:14:47.480 candidate in American history.

00:14:48.740 And then she proceeded

00:14:49.460 to lose to the second worst

00:14:50.400 candidate in American history.

00:14:51.800 So they can't deal with that.

00:14:53.200 And so what they've done

00:14:54.000 is they've channeled that into

00:14:55.260 it must have been stolen somehow.

00:14:56.900 It's like Stacey Abrams

00:14:57.600 in Georgia.

00:14:58.380 We can't deal with this.

00:15:00.460 The second thing

00:15:01.040 is that Donald Trump

00:15:02.060 with Russia is weird.

00:15:03.980 He was weird.

00:15:04.680 The entire campaign,

00:15:05.460 he was weird.

00:15:06.060 He was saying things like,

00:15:07.320 well, you know,

00:15:07.860 he said to Bill O'Reilly,

00:15:08.960 we kill people too,

00:15:10.060 just like Putin kills people.

00:15:11.400 No, we're not better.

00:15:12.440 And he's saying out loud

00:15:13.940 at his rallies,

00:15:14.500 I hope that Putin hacks

00:15:15.340 our emails.

00:15:16.320 And so if you put

00:15:17.240 those two dots together,

00:15:18.180 and it seems like

00:15:18.580 for a lot of the left,

00:15:19.280 that's really what it was

00:15:20.060 because they were firmly convinced.

00:15:21.820 I mean, really firmly convinced

00:15:22.940 that this was going to happen.

00:15:23.720 You see that in Rachel Maddow's ratings.

00:15:25.060 They dropped 500,000 people

00:15:26.700 in one night

00:15:27.760 as soon as this happened,

00:15:29.460 which shows you

00:15:29.980 the kind of wish casting

00:15:30.840 that was happening.

00:15:31.920 Not to be too self-aggrandizing,

00:15:33.400 but I'm going to point out

00:15:34.460 that when I was on Bill Maher's show,

00:15:35.840 this was exactly the debate.

00:15:37.100 I said to Bill Maher,

00:15:37.720 you could just be reasonable, right?

00:15:39.080 You could just say,

00:15:40.060 Mueller's going to find

00:15:40.600 what Mueller's going to find,

00:15:41.380 and I have faith

00:15:41.840 that he's going to uncover the evidence.

00:15:43.480 And I haven't seen any evidence thus far

00:15:45.320 of actual collusion.

00:15:46.940 And Maher's like,

00:15:47.640 you really don't believe

00:15:49.040 that there is collusion?

00:15:49.120 Yeah, no, he was stunned.

00:15:50.140 I remember that.

00:15:50.960 You, a smart young man.

00:15:51.660 Right, he kept saying,

00:15:52.160 I just can't believe that you,

00:15:53.120 he said, you don't?

00:15:54.360 I said, I don't believe

00:15:55.380 that there was collusion

00:15:56.060 because I don't see any evidence of it.

00:15:57.040 He goes, you don't?

00:15:58.860 Like, he just couldn't,

00:15:59.720 he could not fathom

00:16:00.780 the possibility there wasn't

00:16:01.940 because it answers all the questions.

00:16:03.400 It's an answer

00:16:04.300 that answers why Hillary lost.

00:16:05.780 Right.

00:16:05.920 It answers why Trump is weird.

00:16:07.300 It speaks to the idea

00:16:08.060 that Trump is not,

00:16:09.180 also I think there's a real sense

00:16:11.280 of digging at Trump

00:16:12.000 because they really don't like

00:16:13.000 the idea that Trump deep down

00:16:14.760 is kind of a patriotic dude.

00:16:16.300 And so it bothers them.

00:16:17.600 When he says make America great,

00:16:19.040 they want to feel like

00:16:20.520 they are more patriotic

00:16:21.320 than Donald Trump is.

00:16:22.180 So saying that he's

00:16:22.720 a Russian Manchurian candidate

00:16:24.000 is one of their favorite things.

00:16:24.120 This is kind of a leftist version

00:16:25.260 of the birther thing though

00:16:26.320 because the left was constantly saying

00:16:28.940 that the birther conspiracy

00:16:31.520 was a racist thing.

00:16:32.680 Oh, Trump was racist

00:16:33.400 because he said he was from Kenya.

00:16:34.520 That was about Obama's difference.

00:16:36.160 Obama was not like other presidents.

00:16:37.820 He wasn't patriotic

00:16:38.660 like other presidents.

00:16:39.640 He didn't have that sense

00:16:40.540 of American exceptionalism

00:16:41.820 that other presidents,

00:16:42.460 every other president,

00:16:43.400 every other president had had.

00:16:44.880 There was something about him

00:16:45.980 that was not one of us

00:16:47.080 and it was not the color of his skin.

00:16:48.980 It was the color of his philosophy.

00:16:50.660 And so that thing,

00:16:51.440 it stuck with people

00:16:52.320 even after we knew it was untrue.

00:16:54.300 Right, it was the same thing

00:16:54.900 people were saying

00:16:55.340 about how he's secretly a Muslim.

00:16:56.760 Yes, he was different.

00:16:57.980 Right, it was a feeling

00:16:58.600 of foreignness.

00:16:59.860 And Trump is the same way.

00:17:02.100 Trump is like a loose cannon.

00:17:03.960 We're not quite sure of him.

00:17:05.480 And when they say things like that,

00:17:06.820 everybody thinks,

00:17:07.460 well, maybe that might be true.

00:17:08.720 You know, the other reason

00:17:09.540 why it stuck, though.

00:17:10.540 By the way,

00:17:10.820 the bird of the thing is dumb.

00:17:11.540 We all agree the bird of the thing is dumb.

00:17:12.560 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:17:13.640 By we all,

00:17:14.280 you mean all of us

00:17:14.960 except the president

00:17:15.780 who is like the loudest

00:17:17.160 proponent of it first.

00:17:18.660 The other reason why it stuck

00:17:20.660 is because it was a totally

00:17:23.240 cooked up, contrived narrative

00:17:24.740 pushed on every single medium.

00:17:26.140 And I think we're not

00:17:27.180 giving that enough credit.

00:17:28.320 It actually reminds me

00:17:29.460 of the Michael Jackson documentary,

00:17:31.300 that Leaving Neverland thing

00:17:32.500 on HBO.

00:17:33.400 How for so long did we,

00:17:35.360 we saw this guy

00:17:36.420 sleeping in beds

00:17:37.460 with children

00:17:38.060 for a long period of time

00:17:39.460 and we said,

00:17:40.400 no, it couldn't be.

00:17:41.200 And it's celebrity.

00:17:42.340 You had government celebrities

00:17:43.800 at the DOJ

00:17:44.640 and the FBI

00:17:45.260 telling us this guy

00:17:46.500 was working with Russia.

00:17:47.580 You had political celebrities,

00:17:49.320 electeds,

00:17:50.020 Hillary Clinton,

00:17:51.020 Adam Schiff,

00:17:51.920 all of these people.

00:17:52.620 And you had news celebrities

00:17:54.600 wearing ties

00:17:55.600 with nice combed hair

00:17:56.680 and makeup

00:17:57.100 saying night after night

00:17:58.700 for 791 consecutive days

00:18:00.700 and average of three minutes

00:18:01.760 a night

00:18:02.140 that Donald Trump

00:18:03.360 colluded with the Russians.

00:18:04.860 And it was a total lie.

00:18:06.840 It was a total empire of lies

00:18:08.100 to use your phrase.

00:18:09.420 But that's part of it.

00:18:10.840 And that's not Donald Trump's fault.

00:18:12.200 And it's not the fault

00:18:13.040 of a guy

00:18:13.480 who had a weird tabloid history.

00:18:14.940 So I want to talk

00:18:15.740 a little bit more

00:18:16.300 about Trump's attitude

00:18:17.560 toward Russia

00:18:18.080 during the election,

00:18:18.780 which I do think

00:18:19.320 is a factor in this.

00:18:20.360 But you just raised

00:18:21.440 something really interesting

00:18:22.380 that I had not

00:18:22.940 previously considered,

00:18:24.580 which is that

00:18:25.520 before Barack Obama,

00:18:28.560 the government was not

00:18:29.880 an organization

00:18:30.860 that was trusted

00:18:31.720 by the media.

00:18:32.720 One of the massive changes

00:18:34.160 that happened

00:18:34.620 during the Obama administration

00:18:35.620 is that you could have

00:18:38.300 political celebrities

00:18:39.440 who had sort of...

00:18:41.940 Cache.

00:18:42.500 Cache.

00:18:43.300 Has that ever existed before?

00:18:44.920 I mean,

00:18:45.080 even when Clinton was president,

00:18:46.160 was it the case that...

00:18:47.460 I've never seen

00:18:49.020 a news media

00:18:50.020 defend the intelligence community

00:18:52.140 from doubters.

00:18:53.520 That was one of the most

00:18:54.160 shocking parts of the entire...

00:18:54.680 This is what I was about to say

00:18:55.400 is that this may be,

00:18:57.180 in many ways,

00:18:58.340 the most damaging scandal

00:19:00.040 in modern American history.

00:19:02.040 Bigger than the WMD thing.

00:19:03.360 Because the WMD thing,

00:19:04.400 people said Bush lied.

00:19:05.140 Bush did not lie.

00:19:05.960 The entire intelligence community

00:19:07.300 everywhere on Earth.

00:19:08.280 And the media didn't lie.

00:19:08.700 And the media.

00:19:09.140 And the Democrats.

00:19:10.060 They all believed this stuff.

00:19:11.080 And it turned out

00:19:11.460 that Saddam Hussein

00:19:12.140 was the one who was lying

00:19:13.040 about his weapons capacity.

00:19:15.620 And despite the fact that,

00:19:16.860 again,

00:19:17.180 a terrible thing

00:19:17.660 the president has said,

00:19:18.560 implying the president

00:19:19.300 that Bush lied us

00:19:20.260 into war and all of that,

00:19:21.500 this one,

00:19:23.080 our institutions,

00:19:24.540 the institutions

00:19:25.120 that we are supposed

00:19:26.300 to trust,

00:19:27.600 their institutional credibility

00:19:29.000 was leveraged

00:19:29.960 for this narrative.

00:19:31.000 That's right.

00:19:31.320 But it wasn't like

00:19:32.060 they just reported

00:19:32.660 what came out.

00:19:33.500 They leveraged the institution.

00:19:35.200 And key players

00:19:36.500 in these institutions

00:19:37.520 leveraged the institutional

00:19:39.160 credibility

00:19:39.900 in favor of these narratives.

00:19:41.420 That's why I think

00:19:42.060 that whatever he has to say

00:19:43.340 about Brennan and Clapper

00:19:44.460 and Comey

00:19:45.020 is absolutely warranted.

00:19:46.560 Because these are people

00:19:47.620 who were leading

00:19:49.040 our intelligence.

00:19:49.780 Peter Strzok,

00:19:50.560 these are people

00:19:50.920 leading our intelligence agencies.

00:19:52.440 And they were going

00:19:52.840 on national television

00:19:53.780 night after night

00:19:54.680 and suggesting

00:19:55.320 they had secret knowledge

00:19:56.460 because they led

00:19:57.240 these intelligence agencies.

00:19:58.420 And they knew

00:19:58.980 in a way that you didn't know.

00:20:00.120 And Adam Schiff

00:20:00.960 doing the same thing.

00:20:01.700 I'm on the intelligence committee.

00:20:02.940 I know in a way

00:20:04.080 that you don't know.

00:20:04.900 And so when that collapses,

00:20:07.460 how am I supposed

00:20:07.940 to have faith

00:20:08.420 in an intelligence community

00:20:09.460 when people are legitimately

00:20:11.180 using my trust

00:20:12.300 against my trust?

00:20:13.860 And by the same token,

00:20:15.280 this is the same news media

00:20:17.940 that told us,

00:20:18.900 oh, you have to love us

00:20:19.840 because we're the ones

00:20:20.660 who ferret out

00:20:21.720 the flaws of power.

00:20:23.580 Democracy dies in darkness.

00:20:24.920 Democracy dies in darkness.

00:20:26.200 And here they were saying,

00:20:27.460 what do you mean?

00:20:27.860 You don't trust the CIA?

00:20:29.520 No, I don't trust the CIA.

00:20:31.320 I don't trust the NSA.

00:20:32.460 They were spying on me.

00:20:33.500 You know, why should I?

00:20:34.700 The idea of the press

00:20:36.500 after Watergate,

00:20:37.880 the press since Watergate,

00:20:39.340 suddenly coming out

00:20:40.220 and defending our institutions

00:20:41.580 and then the institutions

00:20:42.880 turning out to be,

00:20:43.920 in fact, corrupt.

00:20:44.740 I mean, this is the thing.

00:20:45.580 Every time I see Carl Bernstein,

00:20:47.280 I think you have become

00:20:48.300 what you beheld.

00:20:49.220 You became the thing

00:20:50.100 that you exposed.

00:20:50.940 You are now Richard Nixon.

00:20:53.360 And that's an amazing irony

00:20:54.680 and it's an amazing truth

00:20:56.340 that's been kind of

00:20:57.200 right beneath the surface

00:20:58.080 for a long time.

00:20:58.600 I mean, and the media

00:20:59.380 cannot accept what's happened.

00:21:00.540 No.

00:21:00.880 I mean, if you watch it,

00:21:01.660 they're writing articles

00:21:02.320 about how they still

00:21:02.980 did a fantastic job,

00:21:04.020 how we really,

00:21:04.580 we really just went

00:21:05.560 after the news.

00:21:06.160 That note from Jeff Zucker

00:21:07.440 where he suggested,

00:21:09.380 we're not investigators.

00:21:10.220 We just report

00:21:11.240 what comes across our desk.

00:21:12.220 Really?

00:21:12.460 Is that what you were doing?

00:21:12.900 It's like Dr. Strange.

00:21:13.620 You know, you can't do news

00:21:14.800 in here, there's a CNN.

00:21:16.560 You mean the chyrons

00:21:17.540 with the parentheses editorials?

00:21:19.540 Yeah.

00:21:19.840 I mean, what I want

00:21:20.380 is a chyron on CNN

00:21:21.560 that says Trump-Russia collusion

00:21:23.900 proved wrong

00:21:24.940 and then in parentheses,

00:21:26.280 and we failed.

00:21:27.500 Right?

00:21:27.900 Because that is the reality.

00:21:29.180 That's exactly what happened.

00:21:30.280 And you know,

00:21:30.800 by the way,

00:21:31.680 a news media

00:21:32.680 that's 90% Democrat

00:21:35.040 at the editorial level

00:21:36.220 is corrupt per se.

00:21:37.900 You cannot be,

00:21:38.960 this whole argument

00:21:39.740 that they always say,

00:21:40.320 well, I can be a Democrat

00:21:41.400 and still be fair.

00:21:43.040 One person can be a Democrat

00:21:44.140 and still be fair.

00:21:44.860 A room full of Democrats

00:21:45.940 can't be fair.

00:21:46.800 And the idea

00:21:47.420 that they have allowed

00:21:48.300 the news media

00:21:49.100 to become that,

00:21:50.360 a spokesperson,

00:21:51.400 basically,

00:21:51.900 a spokesman arm

00:21:52.560 for the Democrat party.

00:21:52.720 When the Lear Center

00:21:54.060 gives the Excellence

00:21:55.400 in Journalism Award

00:21:56.540 to CNN

00:21:57.440 for the Parkland Town Hall,

00:21:59.560 the most egregious

00:22:00.520 single media event

00:22:01.220 I've seen in 10 years.

00:22:02.400 And the NAACP,

00:22:03.660 by the way,

00:22:03.960 just nominated

00:22:04.760 Jussie Smollett

00:22:05.680 for an image award,

00:22:07.880 making me wonder,

00:22:08.540 yeah, his image is good.

00:22:09.700 But they should nominate

00:22:10.540 his two Nigerian attackers.

00:22:12.060 I think they should

00:22:12.700 have the image of it.

00:22:13.180 Those guys were

00:22:13.640 wearing whiteface,

00:22:14.260 though.

00:22:15.480 So last question

00:22:16.880 on this topic,

00:22:18.240 Michael, for you.

00:22:20.320 Why?

00:22:20.560 Why does...

00:22:21.760 I mean,

00:22:22.040 why are you asking?

00:22:23.660 I think his position

00:22:25.100 will be the most interesting

00:22:25.820 on this question.

00:22:27.500 Why is,

00:22:28.680 why was Donald Trump

00:22:30.000 so up Putin's ass

00:22:33.100 for the entirety

00:22:34.780 of the election?

00:22:35.460 The only thing

00:22:36.200 that Trump

00:22:36.620 was completely consistent about,

00:22:38.180 never equivocated

00:22:39.200 for even a moment

00:22:40.060 in 2016

00:22:40.980 during the election

00:22:41.700 was that

00:22:42.560 he respects

00:22:43.320 Vladimir Putin,

00:22:44.740 we're just like

00:22:45.340 Putin's Russia.

00:22:47.260 I mean,

00:22:47.480 you could not

00:22:48.320 get the guy

00:22:49.140 to criticize that.

00:22:50.720 There are plenty of...

00:22:51.100 First of all,

00:22:51.620 he was much less

00:22:52.340 up Putin

00:22:52.800 than Barack Obama

00:22:54.060 was when he said,

00:22:55.000 I have more flexibility

00:22:55.720 after my election

00:22:56.620 to Medvedev.

00:22:57.040 No, no,

00:22:57.320 I don't agree with that.

00:22:59.440 I mean,

00:22:59.680 he was actually

00:23:00.580 offering strategic

00:23:01.680 concessions to Trump.

00:23:02.040 Barack Obama

00:23:02.160 literally colluded

00:23:03.220 with the right.

00:23:03.400 That's right,

00:23:03.880 yeah, yeah,

00:23:04.280 that's right,

00:23:04.760 that's right.

00:23:05.260 But the question is,

00:23:06.080 why was Trump

00:23:06.940 a Putin sycophant

00:23:08.580 during the election?

00:23:08.960 I'll tell you exactly why.

00:23:09.860 Because one,

00:23:11.040 his view of politics

00:23:11.940 is much more

00:23:13.160 realpolitik,

00:23:15.320 for lack of a better term.

00:23:16.400 His view of politics

00:23:17.160 is not terribly

00:23:18.000 idealistic

00:23:18.860 or inspirational

00:23:20.360 or aspirational.

00:23:21.500 It is pretty brutal

00:23:22.440 and it's pretty New York.

00:23:23.720 He also talks

00:23:24.400 like a New Yorker.

00:23:25.360 So he tells jokes

00:23:26.240 such as,

00:23:27.080 hey,

00:23:27.360 what do you think?

00:23:27.820 Do you think

00:23:28.040 the Russians

00:23:28.420 are hacking

00:23:28.900 the emails

00:23:29.900 of Hillary Clinton?

00:23:31.000 I don't know,

00:23:31.480 but we can't find them,

00:23:32.440 so I sure hope

00:23:33.020 they release them.

00:23:33.540 So in the final analysis,

00:23:35.160 it can only be

00:23:35.840 that Donald Trump

00:23:37.040 did not believe

00:23:38.020 he was going

00:23:38.400 to be president

00:23:38.960 and was buttering up Putin

00:23:40.360 so that he could

00:23:40.840 build condos

00:23:41.580 in Moscow.

00:23:42.200 I don't think it's that.

00:23:42.880 Or,

00:23:43.300 it's that Donald Trump's

00:23:45.100 view of politics

00:23:46.360 is you flatter strong men,

00:23:48.500 you never criticize strong men.

00:23:49.500 Well, not that.

00:23:50.320 You'll notice with Donald Trump,

00:23:51.660 he only attacks people

00:23:52.820 who attack him first.

00:23:54.220 The classic example,

00:23:55.400 this is Rosie O'Donnell.

00:23:56.220 This is the real answer.

00:23:57.220 Okay,

00:23:57.480 so all of your

00:23:58.080 intellectualization crap

00:23:59.140 is just intellectual.

00:24:00.600 He doesn't have

00:24:02.140 any real politic view

00:24:03.040 of anything.

00:24:03.540 He doesn't know

00:24:04.820 how to spell real polity.

00:24:05.960 He thinks that it has

00:24:06.660 a C and a K.

00:24:08.140 For a dummy,

00:24:09.000 he did a pretty good job.

00:24:09.980 He got himself elected

00:24:10.800 pretty well.

00:24:11.360 Okay, don't get it.

00:24:13.140 Seriously,

00:24:14.020 have you seen Congress?

00:24:15.660 All those people

00:24:16.040 got themselves elected.

00:24:17.020 They have a collective IQ

00:24:17.880 lower than the IQ

00:24:19.360 of this table.

00:24:19.900 That's true.

00:24:20.940 That's actually

00:24:21.880 the best answer

00:24:22.500 to that question.

00:24:23.540 But no,

00:24:24.360 the real answer

00:24:24.960 is that Donald Trump

00:24:26.200 loves people who flatter him

00:24:27.600 and he hates people

00:24:28.380 who do not.

00:24:29.060 He has done this

00:24:29.500 with Kim Jong-un.

00:24:30.280 It's not unique

00:24:31.080 to any of these people

00:24:32.600 and everybody knows this

00:24:33.940 which is why

00:24:34.540 even Justin Trudeau

00:24:36.400 tried to flatter him

00:24:37.240 for a little while

00:24:37.860 and then as soon as

00:24:38.660 Justin Trudeau hit him

00:24:39.380 suddenly Donald Trump

00:24:40.660 went from

00:24:41.000 I love Justin Trudeau

00:24:41.960 to Justin Trudeau

00:24:42.900 is Satan.

00:24:43.940 He's just handsome Satan.

00:24:45.000 Hasn't everybody

00:24:45.600 fallen for Putin?

00:24:46.600 I mean,

00:24:46.780 didn't Obama,

00:24:47.640 didn't George W. Bush?

00:24:48.180 George W. Bush said

00:24:49.060 I sold his soul.

00:24:49.960 The guy is a gangster.

00:24:51.000 Putin is Al Capone

00:24:52.360 running a country.

00:24:53.680 That's who he is.

00:24:54.280 And yet one president

00:24:55.220 after another thinks

00:24:56.000 well, I can deal with him.

00:24:56.260 I see his heart.

00:24:58.060 He is the constant temptation,

00:25:01.000 Putin,

00:25:01.520 because what Putin does

00:25:02.520 is he's like,

00:25:02.980 well,

00:25:03.360 if you could somehow get me

00:25:04.400 then the world

00:25:05.840 would be at peace

00:25:06.360 because we'd be allied

00:25:07.440 and you'd be allied

00:25:08.180 and everything would be great

00:25:09.400 and everybody is thinking

00:25:10.460 back to the end

00:25:11.020 of the Cold War

00:25:11.560 and they're thinking

00:25:12.020 it's so true

00:25:13.040 if we could finally

00:25:13.980 be on the same side.

00:25:14.800 They can't believe

00:25:15.260 he's as bad as he is.

00:25:16.360 Plus those concepts.

00:25:17.040 Right, that's the other thing

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00:25:18.580 in modern politics

00:25:20.160 understands that

00:25:21.320 Vladimir Putin

00:25:22.020 is not a modern

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00:25:39.040 We invaded some countries

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00:25:42.040 their territory.

00:25:42.640 Right, that's what I mean.

00:25:43.460 He legitimately tried

00:25:44.580 to annex both Georgia

00:25:46.280 and Crimea.

00:25:47.400 Yeah.

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00:28:02.400 All right.

00:28:02.820 We do have some questions.

00:28:05.140 I think it's pretty funny

00:28:06.440 when the pregnant lady

00:28:07.860 is seen drinking

00:28:08.700 on camera.

00:28:10.100 Because, you know,

00:28:11.200 we're a traditional company

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00:28:14.820 Yeah.

00:28:16.520 You guys would all

00:28:17.360 probably be the ones

00:28:18.140 like in the cigar,

00:28:19.420 like in the waiting room

00:28:20.560 while your wife

00:28:21.260 is in labor

00:28:21.860 with the cigar

00:28:22.480 in the waiting room.

00:28:22.800 Oh, darn,

00:28:23.200 we're in a nice place.

00:28:24.480 That is untrue.

00:28:25.200 I watched my wife

00:28:25.800 give birth both times.

00:28:26.960 So did I.

00:28:28.100 I'm joking.

00:28:29.020 It's pretty great,

00:28:29.520 by the way.

00:28:29.820 It was fantastic.

00:28:30.280 It's unbelievable.

00:28:30.940 For me,

00:28:31.220 I mean,

00:28:31.320 I didn't have to do it.

00:28:33.060 No,

00:28:33.200 but one of the great experiences.

00:28:34.000 It was amazing.

00:28:34.540 I just want to be there

00:28:35.280 when Knowles' wife

00:28:36.140 eventually has to go

00:28:37.380 in the labor.

00:28:37.560 I don't know any

00:28:38.240 of my children,

00:28:39.020 but I assume

00:28:39.480 I was smoking a cigar

00:28:40.320 while they were being born.

00:28:41.800 Statistically.

00:28:42.460 Statistically speaking,

00:28:43.480 that's almost a certainty.

00:28:44.640 There's going to be

00:28:45.080 a Netflix documentary

00:28:46.120 about Michael Knowles

00:28:47.160 and all of his

00:28:47.660 illegitimate children

00:28:48.400 in like 10 years.

00:28:49.380 Why didn't we know?

00:28:50.260 We knew.

00:28:50.780 He was saying it on the show.

00:28:52.960 He was leaving backstage.

00:28:54.360 Michael Knowles.

00:28:55.040 Oh, Lord of mercy.

00:28:56.400 All right.

00:28:57.020 First question

00:28:57.640 comes from Lance.

00:28:59.040 He wants to know,

00:28:59.720 do you think that Trump

00:29:00.340 has pushed conservatives

00:29:01.340 towards a big government

00:29:02.620 mentality?

00:29:03.740 And why aren't we seeing

00:29:04.800 Democrats turn away

00:29:05.780 from a big government

00:29:06.520 mentality when they say

00:29:07.980 Trump has too much power?

00:29:09.820 I do not think

00:29:11.340 that Trump has pushed

00:29:12.660 conservatives toward

00:29:13.840 a bigger government

00:29:14.780 mentality.

00:29:15.380 I think he has dialed back

00:29:16.400 government in very

00:29:17.400 important ways,

00:29:19.200 especially in the

00:29:19.780 regulatory way,

00:29:20.580 which is one of the worst.

00:29:21.400 He's appointed judges

00:29:22.480 who seem more inclined

00:29:24.560 to limit the powers

00:29:25.440 of government

00:29:25.800 to those enumerated

00:29:27.020 in the Constitution

00:29:27.660 or something like.

00:29:28.600 The one thing he has

00:29:29.760 done,

00:29:30.240 has not done,

00:29:31.420 which is really a problem,

00:29:32.920 is that he has not

00:29:33.700 addressed entitlement

00:29:35.140 and spending.

00:29:36.240 And entitlement

00:29:36.800 and spending

00:29:37.520 are basically the same

00:29:38.480 thing.

00:29:38.980 He promised the people,

00:29:40.480 he knows the people

00:29:41.140 are dependent on that,

00:29:42.200 he knows the people

00:29:42.820 in the Midwest

00:29:43.320 who lost so many jobs

00:29:44.400 in the last administration

00:29:46.040 and the end of the

00:29:47.300 administration before,

00:29:48.300 he knows they need

00:29:49.020 that stuff,

00:29:49.700 and so he will not

00:29:50.580 come out and say,

00:29:52.280 look,

00:29:52.980 social security

00:29:54.260 was put in place

00:29:54.980 when people died

00:29:55.880 at 63.

00:29:56.920 It kicked in at 65.

00:29:58.360 When you live to 80,

00:29:59.360 you've got to work longer

00:30:00.420 to make more wealth

00:30:02.000 to live off

00:30:02.580 in your retirement.

00:30:03.700 It's true for individuals,

00:30:04.640 true for the country,

00:30:05.300 and that's the only thing,

00:30:06.340 the only way in which

00:30:07.100 I feel he's let the

00:30:08.200 government get out of control.

00:30:09.600 I think that the key here

00:30:11.300 is that the government

00:30:12.240 was already out of control

00:30:12.920 when Trump got there.

00:30:13.460 I think everybody

00:30:14.240 starts to think

00:30:14.820 that the world began

00:30:15.780 to spin when Trump

00:30:16.520 became president.

00:30:17.240 It's like when people

00:30:17.760 look at the 1996

00:30:19.080 Australia gun ban.

00:30:20.040 They say, oh, look

00:30:20.380 how the murder rate

00:30:20.900 went down after that.

00:30:21.720 And it's like, yeah,

00:30:22.080 look before that,

00:30:22.700 how the murder rate

00:30:23.160 was going down.

00:30:23.740 It's a straight line.

00:30:24.540 It continues in the same

00:30:25.320 direction after the gun ban,

00:30:26.640 so there's no actual

00:30:27.360 market effect.

00:30:28.340 The direction of the government

00:30:29.060 was already getting bigger

00:30:29.800 before Trump got there.

00:30:30.880 Trump got there.

00:30:31.540 He didn't make it any smaller.

00:30:32.720 It continues to grow

00:30:33.420 at record rates

00:30:34.000 because Republicans

00:30:34.960 are effectively full of crap

00:30:36.240 when it comes to spending.

00:30:37.180 And this has been true forever.

00:30:38.900 And also,

00:30:39.340 you can't get a consensus

00:30:40.180 on cutting anything

00:30:41.020 because the American people

00:30:42.360 lie to ourselves all the time.

00:30:43.860 We're always like,

00:30:44.280 we want a small government

00:30:45.100 with fewer services.

00:30:46.400 And then they're like,

00:30:46.960 okay, how about this one?

00:30:47.780 No, like that one.

00:30:49.700 Bill Maher is right about this.

00:30:51.340 Bill Maher says

00:30:51.840 Americans like socialism.

00:30:53.120 And my answer to that

00:30:54.000 is they like opiates too

00:30:55.060 just because they like it

00:30:55.860 doesn't mean it's good for you.

00:30:56.920 Well, we like socialism

00:30:57.740 without the cost.

00:30:58.740 Right.

00:30:59.480 That's what,

00:31:00.020 whenever they pull Medicare for all,

00:31:01.680 it's like, yeah.

00:31:02.320 And then they're like,

00:31:02.760 we're going to get rid

00:31:03.320 of your private health care plan

00:31:04.220 and your taxes

00:31:04.840 are going to be 60%.

00:31:05.840 And we're like, oh, wow.

00:31:06.840 Yeah.

00:31:07.340 Actually, we're kind of good.

00:31:08.880 Like, we're okay.

00:31:10.000 We're kind of good.

00:31:10.880 I mean,

00:31:11.220 the last Republican president

00:31:12.800 to cut spending

00:31:13.720 was Calvin Coolidge.

00:31:15.920 Nobody has done,

00:31:16.760 Reagan didn't do it,

00:31:17.600 Bush 1 didn't do it,

00:31:18.280 Bush 2 didn't do it.

00:31:18.940 So conservatives

00:31:19.820 have embraced

00:31:21.060 their bigger spending priorities

00:31:24.060 for a very long time.

00:31:25.220 But I actually think

00:31:25.960 even with the tariffs,

00:31:27.760 which many Republican presidents

00:31:29.900 have engaged in tariffs,

00:31:31.300 many conservatives

00:31:31.880 have liked tariffs.

00:31:33.320 Going back to Abraham Lincoln,

00:31:34.860 I think he's actually

00:31:35.840 a fairly mainstream

00:31:37.340 conservative guy,

00:31:39.460 at least in his governance.

00:31:40.760 Who knows about his ideology?

00:31:41.760 That's right.

00:31:42.480 That's right.

00:31:42.940 He also is pretty restrained

00:31:44.840 when it comes

00:31:45.240 to constitutional governance.

00:31:46.580 He waits for the courts

00:31:47.340 to make decisions.

00:31:48.300 He's never done,

00:31:49.240 I mean,

00:31:49.440 he's done some of the

00:31:50.100 executive order stuff

00:31:51.080 that Obama did,

00:31:52.200 but not anywhere near as badly

00:31:53.560 and not in the same kinds

00:31:54.980 of context.

00:31:56.160 He's actually,

00:31:57.040 for all the screaming

00:31:57.900 about what an authoritarian he is.

00:31:59.460 No, he hasn't fundamentally

00:32:00.660 broken the institutions.

00:32:01.320 He's colored within the lines.

00:32:02.360 Yeah.

00:32:03.060 That's right.

00:32:03.900 Alicia.

00:32:04.580 All right.

00:32:04.900 I think I know

00:32:05.460 who this subscriber is.

00:32:06.800 This question comes from Laurel.

00:32:08.560 She wants to know,

00:32:09.360 is it realistic to try

00:32:10.340 to become an artist these days

00:32:11.840 or is it a foolish thing

00:32:13.540 to pursue?

00:32:14.660 Michael,

00:32:15.060 I think we better

00:32:15.480 let you take this.

00:32:16.380 Hey, Laurel.

00:32:18.840 Well,

00:32:19.320 I would say,

00:32:20.420 and if you're the Laurel

00:32:22.100 I'm thinking of,

00:32:22.880 then you're a wonderful artist.

00:32:24.040 You might have seen on Twitter,

00:32:25.240 one of the Daily Wire viewers,

00:32:26.960 Laurel,

00:32:27.540 paints these pictures of us

00:32:28.620 and they're beautiful pictures.

00:32:29.560 You can be a very good artist.

00:32:31.000 I will say-

00:32:31.480 By the way,

00:32:31.860 if you're not the Laurel

00:32:32.960 that we think you are-

00:32:33.840 Then,

00:32:34.100 well,

00:32:34.240 that's a coincidence.

00:32:35.100 That's really,

00:32:35.640 yeah,

00:32:35.900 gosh,

00:32:36.260 who are you?

00:32:36.920 I will,

00:32:37.400 I think it's important

00:32:38.240 for me to answer this question

00:32:39.500 rather than say,

00:32:40.520 like,

00:32:40.820 Drew,

00:32:41.140 you know,

00:32:41.540 because Drew's a very,

00:32:42.500 very successful artist

00:32:44.100 who's made a lot of money

00:32:44.960 on his art.

00:32:45.620 It's an illusion.

00:32:46.160 And I think I've made

00:32:46.880 about $17

00:32:47.720 in my artistic life.

00:32:49.720 I think it's a wonderful

00:32:50.860 thing to do,

00:32:51.460 though.

00:32:51.700 If you want to

00:32:53.280 be an artist,

00:32:55.280 if you have something to say,

00:32:56.340 if you have some

00:32:57.280 artistic expression,

00:32:59.040 you should do it.

00:33:00.100 You shouldn't ruin

00:33:01.060 your life because of it.

00:33:02.080 You shouldn't allow

00:33:02.600 your life to fall apart

00:33:04.120 and sit around waiting

00:33:05.400 for the phone to ring

00:33:06.600 or some magic to happen.

00:33:07.740 You should be out there.

00:33:09.120 You were always working

00:33:09.960 a zillion jobs

00:33:10.880 while you were writing

00:33:11.620 your early novels,

00:33:12.840 I think.

00:33:13.440 Yes,

00:33:13.780 no,

00:33:14.160 no,

00:33:14.400 but I mean,

00:33:14.940 my answer to this question

00:33:15.840 is always,

00:33:16.280 if you can do anything else,

00:33:17.760 do it.

00:33:18.600 If you're like me

00:33:19.920 and you can't,

00:33:20.720 you literally can't stop,

00:33:22.400 then you're an artist

00:33:23.080 and you have to find a way

00:33:23.920 to make a living.

00:33:25.240 That's the answer.

00:33:26.220 But I will say that

00:33:27.120 the romance of poverty

00:33:28.420 does not apply to people

00:33:29.320 actually in poverty.

00:33:30.620 Absolutely.

00:33:31.440 Absolutely.

00:33:31.760 And there's this whole thing

00:33:32.640 with the starving artist

00:33:33.440 pauper and bull rap.

00:33:35.100 You know,

00:33:35.580 the greatest art of its time

00:33:37.500 is usually the art

00:33:38.280 that makes the most money.

00:33:39.520 When poetry was at its height

00:33:41.600 in England

00:33:42.300 during the Romantic period,

00:33:43.640 Keats, Wordsworth, Shelley,

00:33:44.740 all those great poets,

00:33:46.220 you got famous

00:33:46.920 if you got a best-selling poem.

00:33:49.100 God,

00:33:49.500 I hope that's not true now.

00:33:51.000 And Cardi B

00:33:51.600 is the greatest art

00:33:52.340 of our time.

00:33:53.140 The other point

00:33:54.000 on these famous artists,

00:33:56.380 like really the ones

00:33:57.120 we think,

00:33:57.460 T.S. Eliot,

00:33:58.420 Chekhov,

00:33:59.320 Wallace Stevens,

00:34:00.020 I'm talking about poets,

00:34:00.980 Dana Joya,

00:34:01.600 these guys,

00:34:02.500 all were working jobs

00:34:04.060 and taking care

00:34:04.840 of their families.

00:34:05.640 Good jobs,

00:34:06.840 insurance salesmen,

00:34:07.860 doctors,

00:34:08.520 all these sort of things.

00:34:09.520 They were doing it

00:34:10.300 and I so agree.

00:34:11.500 I have a lot of actor friends

00:34:12.860 who are really good,

00:34:13.960 who are really talented actors

00:34:15.260 and they're making $17 a hit

00:34:17.760 doing off-off Broadway theater

00:34:19.220 and they're living in misery

00:34:20.900 and they don't need

00:34:22.000 to live in misery.

00:34:23.440 They could actually

00:34:26.180 do something productive

00:34:27.300 with their time as well.

00:34:27.760 They could learn to code.

00:34:28.620 They could learn to code.

00:34:29.580 Now our show's

00:34:31.040 going to get kicked out.

00:34:32.480 One thing interesting

00:34:33.360 about the Laurel

00:34:34.200 that we know though

00:34:34.940 is she may be specifically

00:34:36.000 talking about visual art,

00:34:37.680 which is something

00:34:38.140 that none of the four of us

00:34:39.180 have a lot of experience with,

00:34:41.260 but I do have one thought

00:34:42.300 about it,

00:34:42.760 which is we live in an age

00:34:44.600 where we basically

00:34:47.480 have embraced the literal.

00:34:49.480 So if you think about

00:34:50.700 a film is more literal

00:34:53.120 than a play,

00:34:54.500 right?

00:34:54.820 And a YouTube video

00:34:55.800 is more literal

00:34:56.800 than a film.

00:34:57.360 And so everything,

00:34:58.440 all the trend,

00:34:59.180 a photograph is more literal

00:35:01.100 than a painting.

00:35:02.180 Than a painting.

00:35:03.220 So all art in the modern age

00:35:05.120 moves towards literalism.

00:35:07.360 And the problem with literalism

00:35:08.780 is that it's,

00:35:10.880 you know,

00:35:11.120 it leaves someone like Laurel,

00:35:12.560 the Laurel we know anyway,

00:35:14.040 in a place where it would

00:35:15.120 probably be very difficult

00:35:16.220 to understand how,

00:35:17.380 what is the role

00:35:18.180 of visual artistic expression,

00:35:20.780 you know,

00:35:20.920 painting,

00:35:21.440 drawing,

00:35:22.260 in a world that has so embraced

00:35:24.200 more literal forms.

00:35:25.980 Is there a place

00:35:27.180 for a painter?

00:35:28.680 Is there a place

00:35:29.320 for a sketch artist

00:35:31.500 in today's society?

00:35:32.220 It may be a dated,

00:35:33.360 you know,

00:35:33.560 impressionism comes in

00:35:34.520 as photography comes in

00:35:35.620 and it may be,

00:35:36.320 in fact,

00:35:36.700 a dated form.

00:35:37.600 That doesn't mean

00:35:38.120 that no great artist

00:35:39.020 will ever come along,

00:35:39.860 just like there are

00:35:40.280 great playwrights,

00:35:41.160 even though the theater

00:35:41.860 is no longer our main form

00:35:43.340 of talking to one another.

00:35:44.320 I mean,

00:35:44.460 I think there's great art

00:35:45.120 being made in the digital space.

00:35:46.240 Well,

00:35:46.620 that's what I was going to say.

00:35:47.440 I mean,

00:35:47.520 in the digital space,

00:35:47.960 it's unbelievable.

00:35:48.340 Some of the video games

00:35:49.820 and the fact that you can

00:35:50.660 enter into those worlds

00:35:51.760 as you play,

00:35:52.820 that's something new

00:35:53.600 and I've never seen it

00:35:54.280 before and it's brilliant.

00:35:55.100 Did you see this?

00:35:55.740 There's this new Netflix series

00:35:57.300 and it's not all good

00:35:58.340 but there's something

00:35:59.000 that's called

00:35:59.260 Love, Death, and Robots

00:36:00.380 and it was made by David Fincher

00:36:02.800 and a lot of it

00:36:04.100 is just different types

00:36:04.920 of animation

00:36:05.400 and it doesn't all work

00:36:07.500 but it's like these

00:36:08.660 little 10 minute snippets.

00:36:09.540 You just decided

00:36:09.980 we're going to make the series

00:36:10.680 and we're not going to make it

00:36:11.260 half an hour long.

00:36:12.060 All these things are

00:36:12.500 8 to 10 minutes

00:36:13.300 and it's all different types

00:36:15.120 of art

00:36:15.340 and the art is just

00:36:16.220 astonishingly great.

00:36:17.120 It's amazing

00:36:17.720 and the experience

00:36:19.040 of playing a game,

00:36:20.100 I mean,

00:36:20.280 we've talked about this before

00:36:21.160 but the experience

00:36:21.680 of playing a game

00:36:22.180 is so immersive

00:36:23.060 that you get that thing

00:36:24.600 that you used to have

00:36:25.320 to use your imagination for.

00:36:26.060 There's still great art.

00:36:26.600 I mean,

00:36:26.820 Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse

00:36:28.020 is a piece of art.

00:36:29.260 Into the Spider-Verse

00:36:30.040 is a beautiful piece of art.

00:36:30.900 And maybe this is part

00:36:31.700 of the answer

00:36:32.420 for someone like Laurel

00:36:33.540 is that you have to find

00:36:35.580 a modern application

00:36:36.920 for those sort of

00:36:38.600 antiquated skills

00:36:39.380 and that could be

00:36:40.040 in the form of animation.

00:36:41.060 We have great illustrators

00:36:41.960 and animators

00:36:42.600 who work for us.

00:36:43.800 It could be

00:36:44.460 some sort of graphic design

00:36:46.040 for which there's

00:36:46.640 a huge home.

00:36:47.460 It could be video game

00:36:48.340 design for which there's,

00:36:50.360 I mean,

00:36:50.560 it's bigger than Hollywood,

00:36:51.440 one of the biggest

00:36:51.900 markets.

00:36:52.900 But I do think,

00:36:53.740 you know,

00:36:54.560 art has always been

00:36:55.420 subsidized by the wealthy.

00:36:56.560 This is correct.

00:36:57.240 Even in America,

00:36:58.620 art is ultimately

00:37:00.060 subsidized by the wealthy.

00:37:01.660 But you do have to find

00:37:02.700 the place where the wealthy

00:37:03.500 are willing to exploit it,

00:37:04.640 where they're willing

00:37:05.060 to subsidize it.

00:37:06.300 So part of it is

00:37:07.520 finding some application

00:37:09.160 for your...

00:37:09.820 There's nothing artistic

00:37:10.600 about rejecting

00:37:11.280 the reality of the world.

00:37:12.900 So true.

00:37:13.660 There's this thing

00:37:14.620 I see among young artists,

00:37:15.900 particularly people

00:37:16.540 who are actors

00:37:17.140 who have scripts

00:37:17.900 and are working

00:37:18.280 at Coffee Bean

00:37:18.740 where it's like,

00:37:19.380 if only the world

00:37:20.060 were fair,

00:37:20.940 if only there were

00:37:21.520 a market for this

00:37:22.200 thing that I'm doing.

00:37:23.300 And it's like,

00:37:23.580 well,

00:37:24.520 the unhappiest people

00:37:25.800 in the world

00:37:26.440 are the people

00:37:26.800 who argue

00:37:27.200 with fundamental realities

00:37:28.240 that they cannot control.

00:37:29.620 It's why teachers

00:37:30.460 always get so bent

00:37:31.160 out of shape

00:37:31.580 about their pay,

00:37:32.280 right?

00:37:32.480 They're always like,

00:37:32.980 you know,

00:37:33.480 teachers should make

00:37:34.380 more than Congress people.

00:37:35.520 And I always think,

00:37:36.260 well,

00:37:36.400 I mean,

00:37:36.720 there's only 435 Congress

00:37:38.680 people in the country.

00:37:39.640 Like,

00:37:39.740 they got themselves

00:37:42.040 elected to something

00:37:42.620 unique and special.

00:37:43.720 Break the teachers' unions

00:37:44.800 and then you get paid

00:37:45.420 a lot more.

00:37:46.280 But it is this thing

00:37:47.200 of like,

00:37:48.160 teachers have never

00:37:49.080 gotten paid more

00:37:49.760 than this.

00:37:50.560 When you decided

00:37:51.720 to pursue becoming

00:37:52.900 a teacher,

00:37:53.960 there was an understanding

00:37:55.340 of what the reality,

00:37:56.620 maybe it's fair,

00:37:58.200 maybe it's,

00:37:58.700 I think it's fair,

00:37:59.680 maybe you think

00:38:00.080 it's not fair,

00:38:00.620 but it is.

00:38:01.540 And one of the great

00:38:02.120 lessons that you helped

00:38:02.860 me learn in my own career

00:38:03.800 as a young artist

00:38:04.560 who wasn't making any money,

00:38:06.000 I was once young,

00:38:07.100 and I once didn't

00:38:07.820 make any money.

00:38:08.280 And Ben helped me

00:38:12.000 understand,

00:38:12.920 it is not,

00:38:14.560 there is no pathway

00:38:15.540 to a happy life

00:38:16.540 peeing into the wind.

00:38:19.560 And the answer isn't

00:38:20.800 that you have to stop peeing,

00:38:22.600 it's that you have

00:38:23.120 to turn around.

00:38:24.000 Well,

00:38:24.260 but it's also,

00:38:25.400 it's also,

00:38:25.420 it's beautiful.

00:38:26.220 It was good advice.

00:38:27.260 It is my life.

00:38:27.960 But everything is a choice.

00:38:28.980 Everything is a choice.

00:38:29.800 You know,

00:38:29.900 we live in a city

00:38:30.640 where some handsome Dan

00:38:32.360 who's never done a thing

00:38:33.160 for anybody

00:38:33.660 can get paid

00:38:34.280 a quarter of a million dollars

00:38:35.340 a week

00:38:35.980 pretending to be

00:38:37.160 a police officer

00:38:37.960 who risks his life,

00:38:39.300 right?

00:38:39.720 Where if you're a police officer

00:38:40.620 you make maybe 60,000.

00:38:41.540 who was victimized

00:38:42.180 by a racial police

00:38:43.080 in Chicago.

00:38:43.780 Exactly.

00:38:44.680 But if you are

00:38:46.000 an actual police officer

00:38:47.920 actually helping people

00:38:48.840 risking your life,

00:38:49.660 you make what

00:38:50.220 Jesse Smollett makes

00:38:51.360 a week in a year.

00:38:53.320 That's right.

00:38:53.780 And so you just have to say

00:38:54.760 this is the choice I'm making.

00:38:56.180 That's the choice.

00:38:56.900 You can't say,

00:38:57.760 oh,

00:38:57.860 I should be paid more.

00:38:58.780 You say,

00:38:59.060 this is the choice I made

00:38:59.900 because I love helping people

00:39:01.180 because I love getting shot at

00:39:02.300 and treated badly

00:39:03.120 by the press.

00:39:04.080 And that's what I'm doing.

00:39:05.300 Racing into buildings

00:39:07.020 that are on fire.

00:39:07.740 Or putting up with kids.

00:39:09.320 I mean,

00:39:09.540 really,

00:39:09.860 teachers do do a heroic,

00:39:11.760 I don't want to sound like

00:39:12.300 I'm down on teachers.

00:39:13.220 Mostly I just want to clip that

00:39:14.240 and we can use it

00:39:14.760 in the LAPD press release.

00:39:19.040 Alicia,

00:39:19.500 one more question.

00:39:20.320 I'm still really bummed

00:39:21.420 that y'all were knocking

00:39:22.280 Cardi B.

00:39:23.000 I mean,

00:39:23.300 everyone knows

00:39:23.840 that she just makes

00:39:24.520 money moves.

00:39:25.540 That's true.

00:39:26.020 She does make money moves

00:39:26.720 by drugging men

00:39:27.400 and then robbing men.

00:39:28.580 That works, right?

00:39:29.300 She didn't have to specify

00:39:30.960 in that song

00:39:31.600 how she made money moves.

00:39:33.340 But then later she did

00:39:34.440 and that was great.

00:39:35.640 She does that like

00:39:36.320 thing.

00:39:37.080 I don't know how she does it.

00:39:38.080 I really want to master it though

00:39:39.300 and just annoy

00:39:40.280 the heck out of Ben

00:39:41.360 when I do it.

00:39:41.820 I don't even know

00:39:42.420 if you want to know

00:39:43.560 how she got to know

00:39:44.140 how to do that.

00:39:44.700 Alicia,

00:39:44.880 I would really know.

00:39:46.340 Alicia,

00:39:46.780 the question.

00:39:47.980 For God's sakes,

00:39:49.100 Alicia.

00:39:49.580 Dear God.

00:39:50.720 Sam,

00:39:51.140 I'm going down

00:39:51.620 the wrong path.

00:39:52.580 Sam wants to know,

00:39:53.480 will the left's

00:39:54.040 newfound anti-Semitism

00:39:55.100 really alienate

00:39:56.480 left-leaning Jews

00:39:57.440 considering that many

00:39:58.560 are already reform

00:39:59.740 or secular

00:40:00.300 and will likely favor

00:40:01.700 their political identity

00:40:03.160 over their religious identity?

00:40:04.520 I think the only person

00:40:05.300 allowed to answer

00:40:05.860 that question

00:40:06.400 is Dr. Perry.

00:40:06.540 Yes, let's hear it.

00:40:07.640 Why, hello.

00:40:10.040 So the answer is,

00:40:11.480 as always,

00:40:12.460 that Jews who care

00:40:13.060 about Judaism

00:40:13.520 are going to be offended

00:40:14.280 by this

00:40:14.620 and Jews who do not

00:40:15.200 care about Judaism

00:40:15.740 are not going to be offended

00:40:16.560 by this because they

00:40:17.120 don't care about Judaism.

00:40:18.240 This is like saying,

00:40:19.200 will Maisie Hirono's

00:40:20.340 anti-Catholic rhetoric

00:40:21.440 alienate Catholics?

00:40:22.500 And the answer is,

00:40:23.200 if you are a practicing Catholic,

00:40:24.500 yes, it will.

00:40:25.100 And if you are not

00:40:25.760 a practicing Catholic,

00:40:26.580 you won't give two dams about it.

00:40:27.960 And this is true for Jews also.

00:40:29.360 There's this weird thing

00:40:30.340 in the press

00:40:30.760 because many members

00:40:32.040 of the press

00:40:32.300 are secular Jews

00:40:33.000 who still have

00:40:33.460 cultural affiliation

00:40:34.380 with Jewishness,

00:40:35.100 which means they have

00:40:36.060 a bagel once in a while.

00:40:36.880 They like matzah ball soup.

00:40:37.680 They've seen Fiddler

00:40:38.220 on the Roof

00:40:38.660 like three times,

00:40:40.260 maybe even a fourth time.

00:40:41.820 And then they go to a synagogue

00:40:43.200 like once a year, maybe,

00:40:44.700 and then they break

00:40:45.120 for lunch on Yom Kippur.

00:40:46.320 And it's like,

00:40:46.640 well, now I'm Jewish

00:40:47.220 because I'm not a white person.

00:40:48.280 I'm a Jewish person.

00:40:49.420 And it allows them

00:40:50.140 a certain level

00:40:50.640 of minority status.

00:40:51.840 And that's what they care

00:40:52.640 about in Judaism.

00:40:53.860 That's not Jewishness, right?

00:40:55.220 That's cultural Jewishness,

00:40:56.640 sort of,

00:40:57.260 but it's not really

00:40:57.860 anything related

00:40:58.560 to the Jewish religion

00:40:59.720 or Jewish principles

00:41:01.000 or the Torah.

00:41:02.480 It's Jew-ish.

00:41:04.580 I would say culturally Jewish,

00:41:06.080 but not religiously Jewish

00:41:07.080 in any sense.

00:41:08.180 And then the media

00:41:08.940 pull people

00:41:09.500 by ethnic Judaism,

00:41:10.700 which again makes no sense

00:41:11.720 because there are plenty of people.

00:41:13.120 Noam Chomsky is an ethnic Jew.

00:41:14.340 He's also a piece of crap.

00:41:15.360 So like,

00:41:15.700 why would I,

00:41:16.400 Bernie Sanders is an ethnic Jew.

00:41:17.940 What does he care about Judaism?

00:41:18.780 He's an open militant atheist

00:41:20.960 who hates Israel

00:41:22.120 and thinks that the Bible

00:41:23.240 is antiquated.

00:41:23.920 Like,

00:41:24.140 why would I pull him?

00:41:25.240 So my answer is

00:41:26.800 the people who care about principles

00:41:28.260 that Judaism stands for

00:41:29.960 are going to be offended by this.

00:41:31.480 I think there'll be main,

00:41:32.260 there's a group of older Jews,

00:41:33.480 particularly people

00:41:34.080 who are above the age of 60

00:41:34.980 who've historically voted Democrat,

00:41:36.560 who still care about

00:41:37.160 the state of Israel,

00:41:38.020 who still care about

00:41:39.040 going to synagogue,

00:41:40.460 even if it's conservative reform,

00:41:41.880 and they will be offended.

00:41:42.860 And you'll see a little bit

00:41:43.460 of drop off there.

00:41:44.180 But young Jews

00:41:44.960 who don't have any affiliation

00:41:46.100 aren't religious.

00:41:47.100 Honestly, I'm so bewildered

00:41:49.560 why people would think

00:41:50.260 it would be any different.

00:41:51.600 This question is so bewildering.

00:41:52.620 Whenever anybody asks me

00:41:54.060 a question about

00:41:54.560 why do the Jews vote Democrat,

00:41:55.760 I say they don't.

00:41:57.260 The Orthodox Jews vote

00:41:58.800 70-30 or 80-20 Republican.

00:42:00.680 A follow-up question.

00:42:02.160 Toast sliced bagels,

00:42:03.440 yes or no?

00:42:04.100 What the F was that?

00:42:05.740 What was that?

00:42:06.980 Did you see that?

00:42:07.780 The bagel,

00:42:08.380 they sliced it vertically?

00:42:09.480 I mean, my feeling is

00:42:10.460 you can't do a bagel wrong,

00:42:14.280 so it's not terrible.

00:42:15.220 But where do you put

00:42:15.980 all the lox

00:42:16.780 and the scallion cream cheese?

00:42:18.600 Where do you put that

00:42:19.380 on a sliced...

00:42:20.340 You want to know something true?

00:42:21.420 It's absolutely 100% true.

00:42:23.920 I'm from Texas.

00:42:25.460 I have never had a bagel.

00:42:26.320 Oh my lord.

00:42:28.020 How are you my business partner?

00:42:30.000 I'm pretty sure

00:42:30.720 that I made it 30 years

00:42:31.660 before I met anyone

00:42:32.480 who had had a bagel.

00:42:33.560 Okay, so,

00:42:34.200 okay, I'm going to tell

00:42:35.120 everybody in LA,

00:42:36.000 best bagels,

00:42:36.640 they are kosher.

00:42:37.380 Western bagel,

00:42:38.100 they have a factory

00:42:38.700 on Sepulveda Boulevard.

00:42:40.180 They bake them fresh.

00:42:41.220 So they take them

00:42:41.700 out of the factory,

00:42:42.200 they put them in the window.

00:42:43.360 They are the best bagels

00:42:44.300 in the history of mankind.

00:42:45.860 Oh, no, no, no.

00:42:47.080 Best bagels in the history

00:42:47.880 of mankind are in New York.

00:42:49.120 They are in New York.

00:42:49.840 Whatever, New York.

00:42:50.740 No, they are.

00:42:51.380 They have the bagel moss in New York.

00:42:52.440 Have you had Western bagels, though?

00:42:53.280 Yes.

00:42:53.660 They are really solid.

00:42:54.260 No, I got them.

00:42:54.900 You recommend them.

00:42:55.480 I got them.

00:42:56.180 But New York bagels

00:42:57.020 are another planet.

00:42:58.140 They really are.

00:42:58.920 I don't know.

00:42:59.120 Do you like the doughy

00:42:59.720 or do you like more of the air?

00:43:00.520 I like the big doughy ones.

00:43:01.660 Okay.

00:43:03.180 Plus, people from New York

00:43:04.040 don't know that there is

00:43:04.800 anything outside of New York.

00:43:05.940 It's the best New Yorker cover, right?

00:43:07.500 It's the best New Yorker cover ever.

00:43:08.760 That was the best New Yorker cover.

00:43:09.640 The New Yorker's view

00:43:10.280 of the United States.

00:43:11.120 Yes.

00:43:11.420 And it's just in the foreground

00:43:12.940 you see New York

00:43:13.540 and then you just see Chicago and L.A.

00:43:15.340 And there's nothing.

00:43:16.460 And all of the United States

00:43:17.380 is three inches wide.

00:43:18.420 Japan is a distance.

00:43:18.440 Yeah, exactly.

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00:44:49.980 no.

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00:44:51.660 The thing is though,

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00:45:04.180 So let's talk about

00:45:04.860 another one of the great stories

00:45:05.840 of the week.

00:45:06.500 Can we talk about

00:45:06.860 the Green New Deal thing

00:45:07.820 is the best cocaine Mitch.

00:45:10.620 I mean,

00:45:10.900 you gotta hand it to cocaine Mitch.

00:45:11.980 Hang on.

00:45:12.820 To Mitch.

00:45:13.220 To Mitch.

00:45:13.820 Oh yeah.

00:45:15.380 I'm gonna use the Tumblr for this one.

00:45:17.180 I mean,

00:45:17.540 oh yeah.

00:45:18.240 Mitch Escobar McConnell.

00:45:20.140 Yep.

00:45:21.640 Unbelievable.

00:45:22.680 So you,

00:45:23.940 undoubtedly you know the story,

00:45:25.580 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:45:27.040 Tell us the tales of cocaine Mitch.

00:45:27.820 Whom we must refer to

00:45:29.400 as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:45:31.160 or AOC

00:45:32.260 and not as Cortez.

00:45:33.860 No, no.

00:45:34.100 So fresh.

00:45:35.360 So face.

00:45:36.220 So face.

00:45:36.640 So face.

00:45:37.780 AOC comes up with this

00:45:39.720 piece of legislation

00:45:40.760 called the Green New Deal.

00:45:41.880 She writes it.

00:45:42.580 She writes it herself.

00:45:43.480 It basically outlaws

00:45:44.480 cow farts and everything.

00:45:45.840 Mm-hmm.

00:45:46.560 Literally all things

00:45:47.520 plus cow farts.

00:45:48.900 And costs $93 trillion.

00:45:50.640 And then they start

00:45:51.660 berating the right

00:45:53.360 for saying that

00:45:54.500 it's a ridiculous

00:45:54.960 piece of legislation.

00:45:55.960 They say this is

00:45:56.720 our World War II.

00:45:58.200 This is WWII.

00:45:59.460 We're fighting the Nazis

00:46:00.460 and we have to

00:46:02.060 put everything we have

00:46:03.420 The world will end

00:46:04.420 within 12 years.

00:46:05.240 In 12 years.

00:46:06.180 So this week

00:46:07.120 Mitch McConnell thinks

00:46:08.020 for a laugh

00:46:09.060 just to make our week

00:46:10.460 even better.

00:46:11.080 He thinks

00:46:11.380 let's give him a chance

00:46:12.260 to vote on the Green New Deal.

00:46:13.780 He brings it

00:46:14.360 to the floor of the Senate.

00:46:16.300 But by the way

00:46:16.880 all of the Senate Democrats

00:46:18.520 who are currently

00:46:19.340 running for president

00:46:20.140 co-sponsor the legislation.

00:46:22.420 12 co-sponsors

00:46:23.440 every one of them

00:46:24.660 running for president.

00:46:25.860 How many of them

00:46:26.460 voted Michael

00:46:26.980 for the Green New Deal?

00:46:27.900 Hold on let me

00:46:28.440 carry the Senate.

00:46:29.320 And none.

00:46:30.140 None of it.

00:46:30.860 No Senate Democrats

00:46:31.860 voted for the Green New Deal.

00:46:33.260 The best part

00:46:33.940 of the story though

00:46:34.580 is that AOC

00:46:35.520 gets asked on Twitter

00:46:36.960 why didn't the Senate Democrats

00:46:38.820 try to save the world?

00:46:39.880 You've condemned us to die.

00:46:40.920 And AOC's answer was

00:46:42.560 because I encouraged them

00:46:44.220 not to vote for it.

00:46:45.540 She's the boss.

00:46:46.040 She said she encouraged them

00:46:47.520 to vote present.

00:46:48.760 And that's how senators

00:46:49.800 make the decision

00:46:50.540 when the congresswoman

00:46:51.760 would first term.

00:46:53.960 And all I could think is

00:46:55.400 why has she condemned us

00:46:56.520 all to die

00:46:57.000 in 12 years?

00:46:58.200 I was assured by the press

00:46:59.940 it was not only important

00:47:01.360 it was deeply popular

00:47:02.140 I was told.

00:47:02.800 I was told that this was popular

00:47:03.900 particularly among the youngins

00:47:04.900 that they love

00:47:05.960 nothing but having

00:47:06.860 air travel banned

00:47:07.700 and every building

00:47:09.060 in the United States

00:47:09.660 retrofitted or destroyed.

00:47:10.860 That they were into

00:47:11.480 all of those things.

00:47:12.940 And every single Democrat

00:47:14.260 voted present

00:47:14.900 except for four

00:47:15.800 who voted against.

00:47:17.120 Right.

00:47:17.280 Those are the ones

00:47:17.880 in the red states.

00:47:18.740 That was Manchin

00:47:19.220 and Doug Jones

00:47:20.440 and Kyrsten Sinema

00:47:21.340 and then Angus King

00:47:22.480 up in Maine

00:47:22.880 who's an independent

00:47:23.540 but is a Democrat.

00:47:24.780 And the best reaction

00:47:26.780 was the reaction afterward.

00:47:28.800 Because afterward

00:47:29.500 they were all like

00:47:30.080 can't believe the Republicans

00:47:31.520 pulled this stunt.

00:47:32.660 We wanted to hold

00:47:33.480 debate on this.

00:47:35.620 But the purpose of debate

00:47:36.740 for legislation

00:47:37.380 usually is to get to the floor.

00:47:40.060 To get to the vote.

00:47:40.960 And you guys were all like

00:47:42.200 no you know

00:47:42.820 we can't vote for this.

00:47:43.760 Sorry.

00:47:44.060 We just don't want

00:47:44.760 to be associated.

00:47:45.720 You know it's a little bit much.

00:47:47.300 It's a little much.

00:47:48.640 Also Alexandria

00:47:49.340 I call her occasional cortex

00:47:51.000 but Alexandria

00:47:52.460 made a speech afterwards

00:47:54.020 that was pure word salad.

00:47:55.780 She was talking about

00:47:56.320 Flint, Michigan

00:47:57.060 where this Democrat town

00:47:58.580 poured

00:47:59.240 took the water

00:48:00.540 out of the river

00:48:01.140 and killed people with it

00:48:02.500 while the Republicans

00:48:03.260 were saying

00:48:03.620 don't do that.

00:48:04.680 Don't do that.

00:48:05.300 What does that have to do

00:48:06.000 with climate change?

00:48:07.080 It has nothing to do

00:48:07.780 with climate change.

00:48:08.040 My favorite thing was

00:48:08.820 have you seen the polls on her?

00:48:10.240 They're brutal.

00:48:10.960 I mean people do not like her.

00:48:12.100 Trump is more popular

00:48:13.020 in New York than she is.

00:48:14.100 It turns out that

00:48:15.080 after all this media coverage

00:48:16.400 after putting her

00:48:17.000 on the cover of Time Magazine

00:48:18.180 after treating her

00:48:19.080 as though she is

00:48:20.160 the face of the

00:48:21.120 new Democratic Party

00:48:21.900 the more people see her

00:48:22.740 the more they dislike her.

00:48:23.780 Because when you see her

00:48:24.660 at the beginning

00:48:25.240 you're like oh she's enthusiastic

00:48:26.400 and kind of fun

00:48:27.120 and then you listen to the

00:48:28.180 things coming out of her face

00:48:29.580 and you're like

00:48:30.180 these are bad things

00:48:30.980 that come out of your face.

00:48:31.660 But she's also mean.

00:48:32.500 She's not a nice person.

00:48:33.540 No.

00:48:33.640 She really is.

00:48:34.100 You see this about

00:48:34.740 Ilhan Omar also.

00:48:35.600 I mean Ilhan Omar

00:48:36.940 is just a nasty

00:48:38.100 She's a horrible piece of work.

00:48:39.400 She's especially mean

00:48:40.280 to guys like you.

00:48:42.620 Something about you

00:48:43.560 she doesn't like.

00:48:44.180 I'm not sure what it is.

00:48:45.000 Guys it's just that

00:48:46.040 he's a supporter of Israel.

00:48:48.620 That's her only problem.

00:48:50.400 This was one of the great moments

00:48:51.620 and then Mike Lee

00:48:52.680 getting up on the floor

00:48:53.640 of the Senate.

00:48:54.240 That was.

00:48:54.620 He was.

00:48:55.020 It was magnificent.

00:48:56.080 He deserves some kind of award.

00:48:56.720 Oh it was so great

00:48:57.540 because for those

00:48:58.520 who didn't see it

00:48:58.940 you should go watch it.

00:48:59.840 He did basically

00:49:01.500 a Bob Newhart routine.

00:49:02.400 He got up there

00:49:03.180 and he's very low key Mike Lee.

00:49:05.360 He's a very serious guy.

00:49:07.000 He was considered

00:49:07.480 pretty seriously

00:49:08.160 for the Supreme Court

00:49:08.980 for the last vacancy

00:49:10.580 and he gets up there

00:49:11.840 with a picture

00:49:12.820 of Ronald Reagan

00:49:14.340 riding a velociraptor

00:49:16.360 while firing a machine gun

00:49:17.940 with an RPG strapped

00:49:19.220 to his back

00:49:19.700 and he gives an entire

00:49:21.020 disposition describing

00:49:22.060 the immense patriotism

00:49:23.760 of the velociraptor

00:49:24.660 that is holding

00:49:25.240 the flag

00:49:26.220 in its tattered flag

00:49:28.320 and then he says

00:49:29.920 this has as much to do

00:49:30.960 with the Green New Deal

00:49:32.080 as the Green New Deal

00:49:32.800 has to do with stopping

00:49:33.560 climate change

00:49:34.440 and then the press

00:49:35.700 does what the press do

00:49:36.320 and this is why

00:49:36.880 the common theme

00:49:38.720 of Donald Trump's presidency

00:49:40.320 and it is why

00:49:41.000 he is president

00:49:41.500 and it pre-existed Trump

00:49:42.520 and it will post-exist Trump

00:49:43.560 we hate the media

00:49:44.680 and we deserve to hate the media

00:49:46.240 because they are sheer

00:49:47.540 freaking burning

00:49:48.920 flaming piles of garbage

00:49:50.420 the way that they covered

00:49:51.840 the Mike Lee thing

00:49:52.540 was such evidence

00:49:53.720 of intellectual dishonesty

00:49:54.960 like I will acknowledge

00:49:56.120 that Stephen Colbert

00:49:57.140 is a comedian

00:49:57.700 and he was doing jokes

00:49:58.780 and I will acknowledge

00:49:59.600 that Jon Stewart

00:50:00.200 who I really dislike

00:50:01.360 is doing jokes

00:50:02.400 I will acknowledge

00:50:03.220 all of that

00:50:03.620 but he is doing

00:50:04.560 an obvious riff

00:50:05.540 Mike Lee

00:50:05.940 it is obviously a joke

00:50:06.800 he is obviously making fun

00:50:07.940 of the stupidity

00:50:08.800 of a bill so bad

00:50:10.560 not a single democrat

00:50:11.460 voted in favor of it

00:50:12.520 and the headlines were

00:50:13.360 Mike Lee makes bizarre attack

00:50:15.000 on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:50:16.880 using silly painting

00:50:18.280 it is like

00:50:18.820 that is called a comedy

00:50:20.040 yeah

00:50:20.420 and it was genuinely funny

00:50:21.920 which is really rare

00:50:22.780 in government

00:50:23.220 I wish that Senator Ted Cruz

00:50:25.700 hashtag the only senator I know

00:50:27.360 would have gotten up

00:50:29.880 during his remarks

00:50:31.260 and just bread

00:50:31.960 green eggs and ham

00:50:32.700 it would have made it

00:50:34.020 such a perfect week

00:50:34.740 for me

00:50:35.000 I know

00:50:35.340 it's pretty close

00:50:36.860 to a perfect week

00:50:37.540 it is a really good week

00:50:38.680 this is

00:50:39.060 well yeah

00:50:39.880 since Kavanaugh

00:50:41.080 I've not been this

00:50:41.740 guys even on the

00:50:42.780 Green New Deal

00:50:43.280 this story went unreported

00:50:45.200 but it happened

00:50:45.920 during the throes

00:50:46.880 it actually happened

00:50:47.580 on the greatest day ever

00:50:48.820 when you

00:50:49.160 you were out

00:50:49.840 you were getting

00:50:50.800 I was having propofol

00:50:51.740 and well

00:50:52.340 we missed one of these

00:50:53.220 right

00:50:53.440 so I go in

00:50:55.000 to get an endoscopy

00:50:55.760 because I have

00:50:57.120 esophagitis

00:50:57.780 which is this weird

00:50:58.380 esophageal thing

00:50:59.040 and I go in

00:50:59.980 I get drug

00:51:00.420 and as I come out

00:51:03.360 of my drug induced coma

00:51:05.440 I read that Michael Avenatti

00:51:08.020 has been arrested

00:51:08.740 oh yeah

00:51:09.460 and I thought to myself

00:51:10.520 this can't be happening

00:51:11.880 like on the same day

00:51:13.520 they released the Mueller report

00:51:14.420 Michael Avenatti

00:51:15.180 has been arrested

00:51:16.360 for running the stupidest scam

00:51:18.540 in legitimately

00:51:19.740 all of human history

00:51:20.600 and he's getting

00:51:21.340 and he's getting

00:51:22.300 dunked on

00:51:22.620 it didn't really happen right

00:51:23.300 he's getting dunked on

00:51:24.380 by Stormy Daniels

00:51:25.840 right who's saying

00:51:26.460 yeah he was a crappy

00:51:27.300 he was a crappy lawyer

00:51:28.300 and I legitimately

00:51:30.220 woke up and I thought

00:51:31.060 like Michael Jackson

00:51:32.180 I died of a propofol

00:51:33.020 I don't know

00:51:34.080 what's going on here

00:51:34.820 and don't forget

00:51:35.260 it's not

00:51:35.700 so Avenatti

00:51:36.400 who was on CNN

00:51:37.400 and MSNBC

00:51:38.100 108 times

00:51:39.200 between last March

00:51:40.180 and last May

00:51:40.720 108 times

00:51:42.460 Avenatti goes down

00:51:43.680 frequent CNN guest

00:51:44.680 his co-conspirator

00:51:46.200 is Mark Garagos

00:51:47.320 the CNN legal analyst

00:51:49.380 he goes down

00:51:50.280 in the scheme

00:51:50.740 and then

00:51:51.240 I'm reading

00:51:52.000 I'm literally just

00:51:52.860 reading the news

00:51:53.520 as I'm on the air

00:51:54.440 and I see

00:51:55.460 this little underreported story

00:51:57.540 the world's fastest

00:51:59.320 melting glacier

00:52:00.240 we're getting ready

00:52:01.020 for the Green New Deal vote

00:52:01.980 the world's fastest

00:52:03.100 melting glacier

00:52:03.920 on Monday

00:52:04.720 stopped melting

00:52:06.860 and started gaining ice

00:52:08.680 global warming

00:52:09.820 itself ended

00:52:10.840 this week

00:52:11.400 it's like

00:52:12.300 Franklin Graham

00:52:13.280 from the

00:52:14.420 president's inauguration

00:52:15.700 Mr. President

00:52:16.520 God has blessed us

00:52:17.820 with rain

00:52:18.260 just as he started

00:52:19.000 to speak

00:52:19.320 Mr. President

00:52:20.280 God

00:52:20.880 stop global warming

00:52:22.720 just as you were

00:52:23.840 being

00:52:24.220 you know what I love

00:52:25.600 about the Michael

00:52:26.100 Avenatti story

00:52:26.940 though

00:52:27.120 everything

00:52:27.620 yeah

00:52:28.120 everything

00:52:28.820 but they hit Trump

00:52:30.260 on being associated

00:52:31.280 with Michael Cohen

00:52:31.960 a fair hit

00:52:32.800 you shouldn't associate

00:52:33.620 with guys like Michael Cohen

00:52:34.640 he's a slime

00:52:35.720 right

00:52:35.980 true

00:52:36.460 but they associated

00:52:37.760 with Michael Avenatti

00:52:38.600 they love this guy

00:52:39.620 Bill Maher said

00:52:40.240 oh he's Donald Trump's

00:52:41.380 worst nightmare

00:52:41.960 if that's Donald Trump's

00:52:43.460 worst nightmare

00:52:44.000 I'm the queen of Romania

00:52:45.460 you know

00:52:45.860 by the way

00:52:46.160 that quote from him

00:52:47.300 I mean it was so perfect

00:52:48.280 the writers of the season

00:52:49.280 are just

00:52:50.000 doing great work

00:52:51.280 and they plant these clues

00:52:52.960 like a season earlier

00:52:54.140 and then they come

00:52:54.720 to fruition

00:52:55.220 I mean it really

00:52:55.800 like the real payoffs

00:52:56.700 right

00:52:56.900 he like goes on the view

00:52:57.920 and he says

00:52:58.280 all my fantasies

00:52:59.040 involve handcuffs

00:52:59.880 and then he ends up

00:53:02.160 being arrested

00:53:03.060 and he's arrested

00:53:05.060 for trying to bully Nike

00:53:06.360 right

00:53:07.140 the company

00:53:07.640 of Colin Kaepernick

00:53:08.880 and he's trying

00:53:09.700 to bully them

00:53:10.400 what is it also

00:53:11.220 with these lawyers

00:53:11.920 pretending to be gangsters

00:53:13.080 say what you will

00:53:13.780 about gangsters

00:53:14.360 they're gangsters

00:53:15.240 they're really dangerous

00:53:16.060 characters

00:53:16.460 when they threaten you

00:53:17.160 you're afraid

00:53:17.780 right

00:53:18.000 these guys come

00:53:18.720 and say Nike

00:53:19.300 I'm gonna take you down

00:53:20.640 I'm gonna tweet Nike

00:53:21.720 here's the thing about that

00:53:24.220 Michael Avenatti knows

00:53:25.120 he can get on CNN

00:53:25.800 that's why he was able

00:53:26.820 to do that

00:53:27.360 right

00:53:27.540 the part of that story

00:53:28.640 that is under reported

00:53:29.520 is that when he says

00:53:30.540 I'll take your market cap

00:53:31.560 down a billion dollars

00:53:32.520 what he means by that

00:53:33.480 is I will go on CNN

00:53:34.300 tonight

00:53:34.620 with all of my friends

00:53:35.760 like Don Lemon

00:53:36.280 and Chris Cuomo

00:53:36.820 and I will talk

00:53:37.600 very bad things

00:53:38.300 about your company

00:53:39.060 that's what he meant

00:53:39.980 and he knows

00:53:40.420 he can do that

00:53:40.880 because he's on

00:53:41.420 speed dial

00:53:41.800 with the producers

00:53:42.300 at CNN

00:53:42.620 and Brian Stelter

00:53:43.200 said to him

00:53:43.660 I take you seriously

00:53:44.640 as a presidential candidate

00:53:45.560 because you've been

00:53:46.040 on cable news so much

00:53:47.060 that's what he said

00:53:47.760 so they build him up

00:53:49.580 they actually are talking

00:53:50.980 about him

00:53:51.560 as a presidential candidate

00:53:52.700 one thing you gotta say

00:53:53.380 about Trump

00:53:53.740 he never talked about

00:53:54.620 Michael Cohen

00:53:55.080 running for president

00:53:55.860 the press did that

00:53:58.320 with Michael Avenatti

00:53:59.200 Alicia we want to hear

00:54:00.200 from a few more

00:54:00.740 of our Daily Wire

00:54:01.540 subscribers

00:54:02.320 after all

00:54:03.420 they pay for my house

00:54:04.380 by going over

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00:54:11.120 and if you do it

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00:54:17.140 to you know

00:54:18.320 sit in and watch us

00:54:19.820 do whatever this thing

00:54:20.620 is that we do

00:54:20.980 what are we doing

00:54:21.380 so Alicia

00:54:21.840 what are our subscribers

00:54:23.280 asking us right now

00:54:23.960 oh I'm real glad

00:54:24.520 you didn't ask me

00:54:25.100 what are we doing

00:54:25.720 because you know

00:54:26.660 let's have that answer

00:54:27.660 no chance

00:54:28.920 before we get to those

00:54:30.360 awesome subscriber questions

00:54:31.620 that make it possible

00:54:32.440 for all of us

00:54:33.040 to be stuck here

00:54:33.820 me in you know

00:54:34.860 a non-smoke filled room

00:54:35.920 so thanks for that guys

00:54:36.980 we do have our

00:54:38.320 Facebook polling results

00:54:39.720 turns out that

00:54:40.860 people think that

00:54:41.460 The Economist

00:54:42.140 having to apologize

00:54:43.600 to Ben

00:54:44.280 and change their headline

00:54:45.300 got 7% of the vote

00:54:46.860 about the craziest

00:54:48.300 slash greatest news week ever

00:54:49.800 Jussie Smollett

00:54:50.600 comes in at 10%

00:54:51.600 the Green New Deal

00:54:52.620 utterly failing

00:54:53.420 and no Democrats

00:54:54.120 voting for it

00:54:54.800 came in at 23%

00:54:56.300 but of course

00:54:57.200 the Mueller report

00:54:58.180 showing absolutely

00:54:59.420 no collusion

00:55:00.180 you know

00:55:00.920 either Trump

00:55:01.520 is a really

00:55:02.320 super secret Russian spy

00:55:04.160 or he's really dumb

00:55:05.040 Democrats can't have it

00:55:06.260 both ways

00:55:06.760 60% of the people

00:55:07.960 say that the Mueller report

00:55:08.860 results showing

00:55:09.540 no collusion with Russia

00:55:10.580 is the story of the week

00:55:11.940 I can't believe

00:55:12.700 that our Daily Wire

00:55:14.000 audience could be so wrong

00:55:15.540 clearly the Economist

00:55:17.720 having to apologize

00:55:18.580 to Ben today

00:55:19.380 is the biggest news story

00:55:20.440 of the week

00:55:20.760 this was the first thing

00:55:21.680 I saw this morning

00:55:22.440 it was trending on Twitter

00:55:24.480 it was trending on Twitter

00:55:26.500 Ben who writes a book

00:55:28.180 about philosophy

00:55:29.300 without his picture

00:55:30.600 on the cover

00:55:31.140 so like

00:55:31.880 a guaranteed

00:55:33.240 three copies

00:55:34.680 sold to your grandmother

00:55:35.660 each one autographed

00:55:37.280 for her friends

00:55:37.960 Ben made the

00:55:40.280 New York Times

00:55:41.260 number one

00:55:42.020 best selling book

00:55:42.900 in the country

00:55:43.880 this week

00:55:44.880 unseating

00:55:45.640 Michelle Obama

00:55:46.440 who's held on

00:55:47.260 to that number one spot

00:55:48.080 with her

00:55:48.520 becoming second place book

00:55:50.140 that's what I'm calling it

00:55:51.060 her becoming book

00:55:52.920 for the last minute

00:55:53.760 and then

00:55:54.560 the Economist

00:55:55.260 does what

00:55:55.660 I actually think

00:55:56.440 in fairness

00:55:56.780 was quite a nice

00:55:57.600 the interview

00:55:58.360 was good

00:55:58.580 I thought so too

00:55:59.960 I didn't mind the interview

00:56:00.580 at all

00:56:00.820 and then they

00:56:01.500 tweet out

00:56:02.400 the story today

00:56:03.660 under the headline

00:56:05.240 you'll get it right

00:56:06.180 Ben Shapiro

00:56:07.000 the alt-right

00:56:08.180 sage without the rage

00:56:09.600 which is wrong

00:56:10.460 in two ways

00:56:11.020 right

00:56:11.260 I mean I'm surprised

00:56:13.500 you didn't say three

00:56:14.040 but yeah

00:56:14.440 the alt-right

00:56:18.340 man

00:56:18.720 and I was like

00:56:20.500 really

00:56:21.220 it's the yarmulke

00:56:22.180 with the swastik on it

00:56:23.380 this is where they're going

00:56:25.060 like do they not have

00:56:25.900 there's a company

00:56:27.140 it's called Google

00:56:27.620 and when you type things

00:56:28.840 into the Google machine

00:56:30.200 it tells you things

00:56:31.240 about people

00:56:31.860 so if you typed in

00:56:32.860 Ben Shapiro alt-right

00:56:33.780 the first results

00:56:34.500 would have been

00:56:34.980 me ripping the alt-right

00:56:36.060 in the Washington Post

00:56:36.980 and probably the second results

00:56:38.260 would have been

00:56:38.520 me doing an entire episode

00:56:39.440 ripping the alt-right

00:56:40.100 on my show

00:56:40.720 then it would be

00:56:41.280 the alt-right ripping you

00:56:42.260 right

00:56:42.600 then it would be

00:56:42.880 the alt-right ripping me

00:56:43.680 I've spent the last

00:56:45.100 four years

00:56:45.780 doing open war

00:56:46.780 with the alt-right

00:56:47.640 if they had bothered

00:56:48.760 to do a control F

00:56:49.560 inside my book

00:56:50.300 I referenced the alt-right

00:56:51.160 four times

00:56:51.720 all four times

00:56:52.440 I called them

00:56:52.860 racist pieces of crap

00:56:53.840 so this seemed

00:56:55.380 to be a bit odd

00:56:56.280 and so I

00:56:57.300 I mean I never

00:56:58.140 go to war with media

00:56:59.040 people who attack me

00:57:00.180 because I get attacked

00:57:00.820 a lot as it turns out

00:57:01.740 this one I was not

00:57:02.960 going to stand for

00:57:03.520 so I really went

00:57:04.260 after them on Twitter

00:57:04.920 I mean I called

00:57:05.880 I said

00:57:07.300 you need to apologize

00:57:08.180 you need to pull this down

00:57:09.140 and you need to change

00:57:09.660 the title

00:57:10.060 I said

00:57:11.240 I threatened to get

00:57:12.020 a solicitor

00:57:12.480 in Britain

00:57:13.200 because the libel laws

00:57:14.400 in Britain

00:57:14.700 are a lot looser

00:57:15.580 than the libel laws

00:57:16.320 here

00:57:16.460 so they're going to

00:57:16.960 play by those rules

00:57:17.540 and when people call you

00:57:17.840 Nazis

00:57:18.220 you probably

00:57:19.080 have a good libel

00:57:20.560 yeah exactly

00:57:21.640 and so within

00:57:22.560 four hours

00:57:23.320 they pulled down

00:57:23.980 the original headline

00:57:25.000 they changed

00:57:25.420 now I'm a radical

00:57:26.140 conservative

00:57:26.860 I'm no longer

00:57:27.620 the alt-right sage

00:57:28.300 without the rage

00:57:28.800 they defended it

00:57:28.980 first though

00:57:29.460 they defended their

00:57:30.400 headline

00:57:30.800 as long as they could

00:57:31.900 and then I guess

00:57:32.340 they didn't want

00:57:32.740 to lawyer up

00:57:33.320 so they changed it

00:57:33.920 yeah something happened

00:57:34.900 and they decided

00:57:35.360 to change

00:57:35.740 and then they issued

00:57:36.220 a full apology

00:57:36.960 they said

00:57:37.300 as it turns out

00:57:39.120 Ben Shapiro

00:57:40.060 is a long time

00:57:40.540 critic of the alt-right

00:57:41.320 we apologize

00:57:42.200 and they spelled it

00:57:42.780 with an S

00:57:43.140 which just shows

00:57:43.760 what jerks they are

00:57:44.800 oh man

00:57:45.220 they probably put a U

00:57:45.920 in color

00:57:46.320 it's ridiculous

00:57:47.000 unbelievable

00:57:47.480 it is amazing though

00:57:48.620 because I thought

00:57:49.980 about this morning

00:57:50.580 how they could have

00:57:51.080 come to such a

00:57:51.800 patently absurd

00:57:53.300 conclusion

00:57:53.780 and then I realized

00:57:54.840 it's because

00:57:55.360 the left

00:57:56.480 and particularly

00:57:57.100 the left media

00:57:57.900 is so ensconced

00:57:59.180 in their ideological

00:58:00.180 bubble

00:58:00.700 that they legitimately

00:58:02.040 cannot discern

00:58:03.720 the difference

00:58:04.260 between the right

00:58:05.760 and the alternative

00:58:07.680 to the right

00:58:09.340 which is the alt-right

00:58:10.400 from their point of view

00:58:12.200 we are all

00:58:13.300 white supremacists

00:58:14.240 Nazi

00:58:14.660 racist

00:58:15.280 violent

00:58:16.200 anti-Semitic

00:58:17.900 jingoistic

00:58:18.660 one step away

00:58:20.320 from murder

00:58:20.440 I think that conflation

00:58:21.080 is one of the most

00:58:21.640 dangerous things

00:58:22.200 in public life

00:58:22.760 and the reason

00:58:23.140 that I say that

00:58:23.720 is because

00:58:24.140 of what it conveys

00:58:25.720 and also the view

00:58:26.360 that it springs from

00:58:27.020 so what it conveys

00:58:27.740 is that

00:58:28.480 if you are on the right

00:58:29.540 if you have a heterodox

00:58:30.380 opinion

00:58:30.700 you're a Nazi

00:58:31.260 we can't talk with you

00:58:32.700 and presumably

00:58:33.320 you should be banned

00:58:33.880 because Facebook

00:58:34.420 in the last couple of days

00:58:35.280 has said that

00:58:35.700 they are no longer

00:58:36.660 going to allow you

00:58:37.240 to post anything

00:58:37.740 that's white nationalist

00:58:38.440 or white supremacist

00:58:39.220 I hate white nationalism

00:58:40.400 I hate white supremacy

00:58:41.300 turns out they don't

00:58:41.920 like me much either

00:58:42.620 but I am deeply

00:58:43.640 uncomfortable

00:58:44.080 with the idea

00:58:44.720 of Facebook

00:58:45.480 using data

00:58:46.200 from media matters

00:58:46.920 in the SPLC

00:58:47.640 to determine

00:58:48.240 which speech

00:58:49.100 should be banned

00:58:49.740 the thing is

00:58:51.140 you and Jordan Peterson

00:58:52.180 there's not much

00:58:53.200 to go after you

00:58:53.920 about

00:58:54.280 you know

00:58:54.540 I mean

00:58:54.740 you're not a racist

00:58:55.360 you're obviously

00:58:55.900 not a white

00:58:56.260 but they always

00:58:57.140 go after you

00:58:57.700 on this

00:58:58.000 transgender thing

00:58:59.360 here's a thing

00:58:59.960 that didn't exist

00:59:00.780 like two years ago

00:59:01.720 I mean

00:59:01.960 and suddenly

00:59:02.820 this is the worst

00:59:03.700 thing they can say

00:59:04.340 about you

00:59:04.660 also it's called biology

00:59:05.580 the truth is

00:59:06.400 the real reason

00:59:07.240 they're pissed

00:59:07.620 really

00:59:07.960 is because

00:59:08.560 if you look

00:59:08.980 at the people

00:59:09.660 that Jordan

00:59:10.160 speaks to

00:59:11.380 largely

00:59:12.000 it is young men

00:59:12.880 who are dispossessed

00:59:13.660 and he is trying

00:59:14.180 to make them better

00:59:14.940 right

00:59:15.300 right

00:59:15.760 and if you look

00:59:16.300 at my audience

00:59:16.860 which is actually

00:59:17.680 pretty diverse

00:59:18.840 it is very young

00:59:19.780 and it is very large

00:59:20.900 and that means

00:59:21.560 that if I am trying

00:59:22.160 to teach people

00:59:22.700 to be better

00:59:23.240 then all they have

00:59:24.080 to do is point out

00:59:24.880 people who are not

00:59:25.500 better and say

00:59:26.040 this is probably

00:59:26.680 your crowd

00:59:27.220 even though it

00:59:27.940 obviously is not

00:59:28.900 my crowd

00:59:29.180 but the real problem

00:59:29.980 I have is again

00:59:30.580 that conflation

00:59:31.400 is an attempt

00:59:32.180 to write conservatism

00:59:33.280 into Nazism

00:59:34.160 and then toss it

00:59:34.920 out the window

00:59:35.200 and the view

00:59:35.800 that that comes

00:59:36.320 from is such

00:59:37.500 a perverse view

00:59:38.240 of what western

00:59:38.720 civilization is

00:59:39.440 and this brings me

00:59:40.100 to the Joe Biden

00:59:41.340 quote that I think

00:59:41.940 is one of the worst

00:59:42.520 quotes I've seen

00:59:42.980 from a political

00:59:43.540 candidate in a decade

00:59:44.900 when Joe Biden

00:59:46.340 said at a rally

00:59:47.620 in front of

00:59:48.040 I think it was a

00:59:48.380 racial minority crowd

00:59:49.180 he said something

00:59:50.940 to the effect of

00:59:51.800 English jurisprudence

00:59:52.940 is white culture

00:59:53.960 and I thought to myself

00:59:55.980 and should be

00:59:57.180 and we have to get past it

00:59:58.680 and it needs to change

00:59:59.540 and I thought

01:00:01.080 first of all

01:00:01.660 English jurisprudence

01:00:02.460 Anglo-American jurisprudence

01:00:03.840 is one of the best things

01:00:04.840 that has ever happened

01:00:05.560 to humanity

01:00:06.060 and particularly

01:00:07.000 to minorities

01:00:07.680 because it turns out

01:00:08.460 that Anglo-American jurisprudence

01:00:09.560 is about the rights

01:00:10.140 of the individual

01:00:10.740 you know who don't have

01:00:11.680 a lot of minority rights

01:00:12.520 people who are living

01:00:13.340 in non-Anglo-American

01:00:14.460 jurisdictions

01:00:15.060 those people tend to be

01:00:16.860 charged head taxes

01:00:17.960 those people tend to be

01:00:18.960 victimized along racial

01:00:20.140 and religious lines

01:00:21.020 what the hell

01:00:22.300 are you talking about

01:00:23.020 but for the left

01:00:24.340 for the hard left

01:00:25.120 like Joe Biden

01:00:25.800 or for the intersectional left

01:00:26.940 western civilization

01:00:28.100 is a veneer

01:00:29.420 right

01:00:29.820 it's a post-facto

01:00:30.920 intellectual veneer

01:00:32.800 that we put on

01:00:33.260 power relations

01:00:34.000 and what western civilization

01:00:35.180 really is

01:00:36.200 is white people

01:00:37.100 cramming down

01:00:37.680 their viewpoints

01:00:38.180 on everybody else

01:00:38.860 and then giving

01:00:39.580 some sort of

01:00:40.060 post-facto justification

01:00:41.140 with a bunch of

01:00:41.840 nice pretty words

01:00:42.880 about freedom of speech

01:00:44.020 and equality under law

01:00:45.840 and so if we just

01:00:46.660 tear down that

01:00:47.360 western civilization

01:00:48.060 then the hierarchy

01:00:49.080 will go along too

01:00:50.280 that is exactly

01:00:51.240 the same thing

01:00:52.060 that the alt-right

01:00:52.900 actually says

01:00:53.800 except they like

01:00:54.340 western civilization

01:00:54.940 they say

01:00:55.600 that they like

01:00:56.860 the power hierarchy

01:00:57.740 in which white people

01:00:58.460 are more powerful

01:00:59.080 than everybody else

01:00:59.800 all the nice words

01:01:00.620 about freedom

01:01:01.100 and free markets

01:01:01.980 and all that stuff

01:01:02.440 that's a bunch of crap

01:01:03.220 that we say

01:01:03.700 just to sweeten the tea

01:01:04.980 a little bit

01:01:05.380 but the real tea

01:01:06.360 is white supremacy

01:01:07.080 and we like the white supremacy

01:01:08.240 so you're suggesting

01:01:08.960 that the two alternatives

01:01:10.360 to the right

01:01:11.080 the alt-right

01:01:12.180 and the left

01:01:12.900 agree that the right

01:01:14.180 is wrong

01:01:14.640 I want to talk more

01:01:15.620 about this

01:01:16.060 I also want to

01:01:16.860 finally get to those

01:01:17.500 questions that we promised

01:01:18.340 we were going to take

01:01:18.980 from our

01:01:19.480 dailywire.com subscribers

01:01:21.160 but first

01:01:21.860 we have a special guest

01:01:22.980 we promised that one day

01:01:24.600 this would happen

01:01:25.360 that from his lofty perch

01:01:28.760 on the American east coast

01:01:30.520 Matt Walsh would descend

01:01:32.760 and deign to spend

01:01:34.620 a little time with us here

01:01:35.860 people ask for this

01:01:36.900 all the time on Twitter

01:01:37.600 they're like

01:01:37.940 where's Matt Walsh

01:01:40.140 the dailywire guys

01:01:41.420 get together

01:01:41.820 and there's no Matt Walsh

01:01:42.900 Jeremy grew up here

01:01:44.160 just so that we wouldn't

01:01:44.980 notice that Matt Walsh

01:01:45.800 wasn't on the show

01:01:46.520 but we today

01:01:47.960 are demonstrating

01:01:48.760 our great power

01:01:50.120 because we got Matt Walsh

01:01:52.360 to come join the show

01:01:53.500 the host of the Matt Walsh show

01:01:55.080 if you aren't familiar

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01:01:58.740 hey guys over on the Matt Walsh show today

01:02:00.640 was Jesus a socialist

01:02:02.140 no

01:02:02.640 you nitwits

01:02:03.820 he was not a socialist

01:02:05.100 Bernie Sanders

01:02:06.560 is an arrogant

01:02:07.400 power hungry

01:02:08.200 hypocritical

01:02:08.880 cowardly

01:02:09.480 morally deranged

01:02:10.440 communist

01:02:10.980 they're going to chemically

01:02:12.240 castrate this boy

01:02:13.880 he is being physically

01:02:15.300 psychologically

01:02:16.400 emotionally

01:02:17.360 abused

01:02:18.320 some old tweets

01:02:19.360 from Cory Booker

01:02:20.660 sleep and I broke up

01:02:22.100 a few nights ago

01:02:22.820 I'm dating coffee now

01:02:24.180 she's hot

01:02:25.040 the Green New Deal

01:02:28.740 is finally here

01:02:29.740 it's the kind of thing

01:02:30.880 that would sound brilliant

01:02:32.020 if you were high

01:02:33.240 that around half

01:02:34.280 of all millennials

01:02:35.040 find socialism

01:02:36.260 appealing

01:02:36.940 they want daddy

01:02:37.800 in Washington

01:02:38.480 to supplant

01:02:39.860 daddy at home

01:02:40.660 I think Cory Booker

01:02:41.500 might have a condition

01:02:42.260 actually

01:02:42.840 I'm kind of worried

01:02:43.560 about him

01:02:43.860 someone should probably

01:02:44.500 check on

01:02:44.900 Matt Walsh

01:02:52.100 thanks for being with us

01:02:53.020 you just appeared like that

01:02:54.400 it was a long drive

01:02:56.500 to get here

01:02:56.860 but I'm here

01:02:57.680 how many episodes

01:02:59.100 did you shoot

01:02:59.700 in transit

01:03:00.260 I got quite a few

01:03:01.820 of them done

01:03:02.220 so now I'm here

01:03:04.120 you didn't wear

01:03:05.000 your bathing suit

01:03:06.260 I got an email

01:03:07.340 I was told

01:03:08.180 this was spring break

01:03:09.320 edition

01:03:09.820 it was Catholic

01:03:10.520 bathing suit day

01:03:11.160 it was Catholic

01:03:11.640 bathing suit

01:03:12.260 no that is

01:03:12.940 that is too short

01:03:13.720 for Catholics

01:03:14.260 way too skimpy

01:03:16.940 I need like a big

01:03:17.460 alb or something

01:03:18.280 that's right

01:03:18.780 it's actually great

01:03:19.500 because he's sitting

01:03:20.060 between me

01:03:20.960 and he's the only person

01:03:21.620 more dour than I am

01:03:22.520 and you

01:03:23.300 and he's the only person

01:03:23.960 who's more Catholic

01:03:24.420 than you are

01:03:24.940 so there's kind of

01:03:26.400 a transition here

01:03:27.140 exactly

01:03:27.700 so Matt

01:03:29.360 we were just talking

01:03:30.080 about the conflation

01:03:31.680 of all conservatives

01:03:32.500 with the alt-right

01:03:34.000 and how the alt-right

01:03:36.100 and the left

01:03:37.000 actually agree broadly

01:03:38.520 on identity politics

01:03:39.740 they just disagree

01:03:40.460 about who the victor

01:03:41.780 should be

01:03:42.500 what makes us

01:03:44.220 different than the alt-right

01:03:45.180 well I mean

01:03:47.180 I'm sitting here

01:03:47.620 next to the leader

01:03:48.220 of the alt-right

01:03:48.720 which is kind of

01:03:49.340 which is pretty fun

01:03:51.800 from what I could tell

01:03:55.060 the main thing

01:03:55.700 that jumps out at me

01:03:56.360 about the alt-right

01:03:57.220 is that it's very nihilistic

01:03:58.300 I mean it's

01:03:59.280 identity politics

01:04:00.540 yes

01:04:00.840 but at the core of it

01:04:01.980 there doesn't appear

01:04:02.540 to be much of a moral

01:04:03.440 core

01:04:04.340 and so for me

01:04:05.260 conservatism

01:04:06.580 should be

01:04:07.140 should have that

01:04:07.700 moral foundation

01:04:08.520 that moral core

01:04:09.300 which is also

01:04:10.480 what makes the alt-right

01:04:11.400 related to the alt-left

01:04:12.540 and that at the end

01:04:13.220 of the day

01:04:13.520 it's relativistic

01:04:14.400 it's nihilistic

01:04:15.300 it's

01:04:16.960 you know

01:04:17.460 your truth

01:04:17.960 is whatever

01:04:18.280 your truth is

01:04:18.940 I think they both

01:04:19.660 share that

01:04:20.260 foundation

01:04:21.100 Michael you wrote

01:04:22.080 one of the earliest

01:04:22.760 pieces sort of

01:04:23.920 exposing the reality

01:04:24.900 of the alt-right

01:04:25.420 I think to a

01:04:25.900 mainstream audience

01:04:27.480 and one of the things

01:04:28.180 that you touched on

01:04:28.860 in that piece

01:04:29.420 was the sort of

01:04:30.700 religiosity

01:04:31.400 of the alt-right

01:04:32.320 and how it's

01:04:33.320 a religiosity

01:04:34.600 without any connection

01:04:36.320 to the spiritual

01:04:36.940 truths of religion

01:04:37.820 it's yeah

01:04:38.520 it's very post-modern

01:04:39.720 and this is an issue

01:04:40.660 I really wanted to

01:04:41.580 get out and explain

01:04:42.400 what the alt-right was

01:04:43.380 when that phrase

01:04:44.800 had meaning

01:04:45.520 which it no longer

01:04:46.580 does because Ben Shapiro

01:04:47.620 is now the leader

01:04:48.280 of the alt-right

01:04:48.800 anyone to the right

01:04:49.820 of Hillary Clinton

01:04:50.480 is they do this

01:04:51.360 to a lot of words

01:04:52.040 racism sexism

01:04:53.120 and they've done it

01:04:54.520 to the alt-right

01:04:54.960 but it does have

01:04:55.840 a meaning

01:04:56.380 and it's an alternative

01:04:58.340 to what we would call

01:04:59.540 the conservative tradition

01:05:00.640 and it's an alternative

01:05:01.940 that emphasizes

01:05:03.300 brutal power politics

01:05:05.760 it's a zero-sum game

01:05:07.760 it's rooted essentially

01:05:09.560 in racial identity

01:05:10.760 and the trouble with it

01:05:12.760 as the trouble

01:05:13.520 with so many

01:05:14.160 of these things

01:05:14.760 is that it inverts reality

01:05:16.760 you know Andrew Breitbart

01:05:17.920 who everyone in LA

01:05:19.180 knew except for me

01:05:19.920 because I got out here

01:05:20.540 too late

01:05:20.960 would talk about

01:05:22.520 how politics

01:05:23.020 is down from culture

01:05:23.820 and culture

01:05:24.340 as Russell Kirk says

01:05:25.420 is down from religion

01:05:26.520 from the cult

01:05:27.120 what they do

01:05:28.180 is they invert that

01:05:29.260 and so they substitute

01:05:30.560 rather than

01:05:31.380 talking about

01:05:32.580 recreating Christendom

01:05:35.000 recreating

01:05:36.100 western civilization

01:05:37.400 rooted in

01:05:38.580 the religion

01:05:39.460 that forms that

01:05:40.440 they say

01:05:41.320 no no no

01:05:41.820 we want all

01:05:43.160 the trappings

01:05:44.020 of Christendom

01:05:45.240 without the Christ

01:05:46.300 they want all

01:05:47.020 the trappings

01:05:47.560 of western culture

01:05:48.460 without the cult

01:05:49.460 that makes the culture

01:05:50.440 that actually is leftism

01:05:51.420 it is

01:05:51.820 well it reminds me

01:05:52.740 it's like the sort of

01:05:53.440 people who drink

01:05:54.140 decaf coffee

01:05:55.280 and diet coke

01:05:56.280 they eat

01:05:57.480 vegetarian bacon

01:05:58.720 they want the

01:05:59.560 semblance of the thing

01:06:00.560 but they don't want

01:06:01.400 the essence of the thing

01:06:02.600 and that's what

01:06:03.560 the alt-right does

01:06:04.280 so they use

01:06:04.780 the sort of language

01:06:05.620 that might get

01:06:06.640 some conservatives

01:06:07.480 excited

01:06:08.340 we need to go back

01:06:09.580 to our foundations

01:06:10.660 we need to go back

01:06:11.640 to western civilization

01:06:12.600 but they misunderstand

01:06:14.020 what western civilization

01:06:15.480 is essentially

01:06:16.780 probably because

01:06:17.500 they haven't read

01:06:18.000 the alt-right leaders

01:06:18.900 book on the right

01:06:20.400 side of history

01:06:20.920 you know if you can

01:06:21.620 get past the aesthetic

01:06:23.120 long enough to take

01:06:24.160 Michael seriously

01:06:24.780 he really knows

01:06:25.420 a lot of stuff

01:06:26.020 no no no

01:06:27.300 let's not understand

01:06:27.920 the case

01:06:28.180 you know there was

01:06:30.540 one time

01:06:30.920 there was one time

01:06:31.660 on the show

01:06:32.660 we were talking

01:06:34.260 about sort of

01:06:34.960 debates among

01:06:35.720 protestants and

01:06:36.900 catholics and eastern

01:06:37.720 orthodox

01:06:38.020 all these things

01:06:38.400 and we were in

01:06:38.980 this really intense

01:06:39.760 debate and I realized

01:06:40.800 it was Halloween

01:06:41.340 and I was wearing

01:06:41.940 a Moana costume

01:06:42.820 this is a great video

01:06:44.820 can we talk about

01:06:45.980 Jussie Smollett

01:06:46.680 oh can we not

01:06:47.660 talk about it

01:06:48.240 it's the great

01:06:49.780 to me

01:06:50.620 in a week of great

01:06:51.940 stories it is

01:06:53.000 the greatest

01:06:53.420 it is the most

01:06:54.020 fun story

01:06:54.560 it is the most

01:06:55.040 fun story

01:06:55.180 because there's

01:06:55.960 a schreidenfreude

01:06:56.520 to the Mueller

01:06:56.880 report

01:06:57.220 like two years

01:06:58.280 in the making

01:06:58.680 it's a long

01:06:59.300 wind up

01:06:59.660 when the pitch

01:07:00.120 comes it's

01:07:00.540 really great

01:07:00.980 but the Jussie

01:07:02.620 Smollett being

01:07:03.180 let off the hook

01:07:04.040 for being a racial

01:07:04.860 hoaxster

01:07:05.300 and now his lawyer

01:07:06.500 maintaining that he

01:07:07.360 was in fact

01:07:07.820 innocent

01:07:08.200 he was the victim

01:07:09.420 of a hate crime

01:07:10.140 from two

01:07:11.420 Nigerian brothers

01:07:13.100 who

01:07:13.840 in his employee

01:07:15.180 in his employee

01:07:16.120 his personal trainers

01:07:17.120 who are extras

01:07:17.880 on Empire

01:07:18.780 who beat him up

01:07:20.500 and now his lawyers

01:07:21.180 are saying

01:07:21.840 that they legitimately

01:07:23.320 beat him up

01:07:23.960 while wearing

01:07:24.800 white face

01:07:25.580 under their ski masks

01:07:27.160 under their ski masks

01:07:28.000 this is the actual

01:07:29.420 theory of the case

01:07:30.460 and I just think

01:07:31.280 this timeline

01:07:32.140 is freaking

01:07:32.980 great

01:07:33.560 and Michelle Obama's

01:07:35.620 friends are calling

01:07:36.440 up the DA

01:07:37.080 over there

01:07:37.680 and telling her

01:07:38.440 can you kick

01:07:38.920 this thing

01:07:39.500 and she's like

01:07:40.140 sure

01:07:40.480 and I'll pretend

01:07:41.340 to accuse myself

01:07:42.040 but I won't

01:07:43.000 and then

01:07:43.260 that was only meant

01:07:44.160 in the colloquial sense

01:07:45.380 in the colloquial sense

01:07:46.160 because that's what

01:07:46.680 lawyers do

01:07:47.140 we speak in the

01:07:47.820 colloquial sense

01:07:48.580 when I'm lawyering

01:07:49.600 what I always do

01:07:50.440 when I write a contract

01:07:51.060 is I say

01:07:51.420 I make it as colloquial

01:07:52.360 as I can

01:07:52.740 hey y'all

01:07:53.360 right exactly

01:07:54.180 can we do some stuff

01:07:54.920 here like

01:07:55.200 you'll do some stuff

01:07:55.780 I'll do some stuff

01:07:56.280 we'll be happy

01:07:56.700 that's how I write

01:07:57.180 all my contracts

01:07:57.800 Ben always says

01:07:58.580 hey y'all

01:07:59.340 you know

01:08:04.160 one of the things

01:08:04.720 I've always

01:08:05.320 why corruption

01:08:06.320 always makes me laugh

01:08:07.240 is because

01:08:07.520 when it gets as corrupt

01:08:08.700 as Chicago

01:08:09.300 they stop hiding it

01:08:10.680 it's so funny

01:08:11.240 you know

01:08:11.820 it's just like

01:08:12.300 what did you do

01:08:12.680 with the money

01:08:12.960 well I put it

01:08:13.380 in a little tin box

01:08:14.200 kind of thing

01:08:14.680 you know

01:08:14.920 and now

01:08:15.560 the thing about

01:08:16.920 this Smollett story

01:08:18.300 is nobody is clean

01:08:19.800 you know

01:08:20.220 you want to root

01:08:20.760 for the cops

01:08:21.260 I love the cops

01:08:22.060 they're you know

01:08:22.580 our first responders

01:08:23.360 and all this stuff

01:08:23.980 but the cops in Chicago

01:08:25.380 have been very

01:08:26.320 have not been so good

01:08:27.480 before this new guy

01:08:28.420 came in

01:08:29.020 you know

01:08:29.400 they hid that video

01:08:30.560 of Laquan McDonald

01:08:31.700 getting shot

01:08:32.500 they hid it

01:08:33.340 for something

01:08:33.620 like 13 months

01:08:34.540 Rahm Emanuel

01:08:35.960 was part of that

01:08:37.140 and that's the reason

01:08:38.640 this woman

01:08:39.360 who dumped the case

01:08:40.280 is in office basically

01:08:41.840 she came in saying

01:08:42.840 they're not treating

01:08:43.400 black people

01:08:43.860 so it's like

01:08:44.400 it's basically

01:08:45.240 bad democrats

01:08:46.060 versus evil democrats

01:08:46.940 but when you're too corrupt

01:08:47.780 for a guy

01:08:48.280 who legitimately

01:08:48.800 used to send fish

01:08:49.740 in newspaper

01:08:50.340 to his enemies

01:08:50.980 when he was on the hill

01:08:51.840 Rahm Emanuel

01:08:52.480 you may have gone

01:08:54.220 a little too far

01:08:55.660 you're like

01:08:56.300 you're past the rainbow

01:08:57.300 the rainbow left you

01:08:58.060 behind a while ago

01:08:58.680 the unmentioned

01:08:59.640 part of this though

01:09:00.440 because once he got

01:09:01.440 off the hook

01:09:02.080 once they said

01:09:02.780 okay you're not guilty

01:09:04.080 although they kept

01:09:04.920 the money

01:09:05.280 yeah yeah

01:09:05.780 you're not guilty

01:09:06.460 give us that 10 G's

01:09:07.480 and you have to go

01:09:08.140 do some work

01:09:08.760 for Jesse Jackson's

01:09:09.780 non-profit

01:09:10.460 retroactively

01:09:11.300 retroactively

01:09:12.000 but you're off the hook

01:09:13.260 but initially we heard

01:09:15.020 oh Empire

01:09:15.640 is going to hire him back

01:09:16.700 he's going to come back

01:09:17.600 on he's going to have

01:09:18.060 a career

01:09:18.420 everyone is forgetting

01:09:20.160 the federal charges

01:09:21.520 that could be brought

01:09:22.640 against him

01:09:23.180 for sending a hate hoax

01:09:24.940 through the mail

01:09:25.780 with white powder

01:09:26.800 will they bring

01:09:27.280 federal charges

01:09:27.940 I mean I certainly

01:09:29.780 hope so

01:09:30.140 although they didn't

01:09:30.680 say that he's not

01:09:31.240 guilty

01:09:31.520 because that's the

01:09:32.260 thing is the

01:09:32.800 prosecutors out there

01:09:33.980 saying that he's guilty

01:09:34.720 Kim Fox said that

01:09:36.020 yeah well we think

01:09:36.720 he's guilty

01:09:37.060 the charges made sense

01:09:38.580 so they're not making

01:09:39.960 any attempt to hide it

01:09:40.800 that's what really is

01:09:41.940 kind of scary about it

01:09:43.140 so it shows you

01:09:43.620 something about how

01:09:44.360 privilege really works

01:09:45.340 in our society

01:09:46.560 and it's not necessarily

01:09:48.360 tied to being white

01:09:49.300 straight and male

01:09:50.080 apparently

01:09:50.500 as Jussie Smollett

01:09:51.680 has shown us

01:09:52.300 or as Cardi B

01:09:53.620 has shown us

01:09:54.820 you know

01:09:56.520 it's privilege

01:09:57.720 it has a lot more

01:09:58.460 to do with

01:09:59.060 well certainly money

01:10:00.400 is the first thing

01:10:01.220 that matters

01:10:01.640 but also

01:10:03.360 you know

01:10:03.800 identity

01:10:04.520 the trendiest identity

01:10:05.780 is not white and male

01:10:06.700 as we've discovered

01:10:07.500 and connections

01:10:08.180 celebrity status

01:10:09.120 celebrity status

01:10:10.100 helps an awful lot

01:10:11.100 right

01:10:11.240 Joseph Epstein

01:10:12.920 down in Florida

01:10:13.580 getting off on

01:10:14.240 his charges

01:10:15.000 I mean that guy

01:10:16.080 should be in jail

01:10:16.600 forever

01:10:17.160 and never get out

01:10:17.720 for 100% of time

01:10:18.700 yeah exactly

01:10:19.540 honestly I'll be honest

01:10:21.440 I'm really looking forward

01:10:22.440 to them finally breaking

01:10:23.720 all the people

01:10:24.360 who visited his sex slave island

01:10:25.980 and all of their activities

01:10:27.080 I want all this stuff

01:10:28.360 out in the public

01:10:28.840 because I want to know

01:10:29.520 Jeffrey Epstein

01:10:30.120 Jeffrey Epstein

01:10:30.740 thank you

01:10:31.340 I'm just going to head

01:10:33.240 out of here guys

01:10:34.080 before that story breaks

01:10:35.840 nobody ever invited you

01:10:38.040 to any island

01:10:38.500 I think part of the problem

01:10:40.680 too is that

01:10:41.760 there's so little integrity

01:10:43.740 on either side

01:10:44.560 of the aisle anymore

01:10:45.300 so that's how people

01:10:46.080 get away with things

01:10:46.900 is that they always

01:10:47.640 have their own side

01:10:48.580 that's going to overlook

01:10:49.460 it because

01:10:50.300 and it happens

01:10:51.220 on the other side too

01:10:52.260 so that's part of the problem

01:10:53.520 is that the peanut gallery

01:10:54.460 who should be

01:10:55.640 demanding justice

01:10:57.000 we're always looking

01:10:58.380 at things through

01:10:58.800 a political lens

01:10:59.600 and so now the left

01:11:00.480 is looking at

01:11:00.900 Jesse Smollett

01:11:01.460 and saying

01:11:01.860 well I guess

01:11:02.720 he's kind of ours

01:11:03.460 and so we have to

01:11:04.500 sort of

01:11:05.080 at least look the other way

01:11:06.500 it was that thing

01:11:06.980 that the black community

01:11:08.360 said after O.J. Simpson

01:11:09.540 I realize that's

01:11:10.080 a long time ago

01:11:10.740 where they basically said

01:11:12.220 you owe us one

01:11:13.240 like we know he's guilty

01:11:14.420 but you just owe us one

01:11:15.920 and I feel like

01:11:16.580 that's one of the problems

01:11:18.500 with identity politics

01:11:19.320 yes on both sides

01:11:20.640 of the aisle

01:11:21.120 is that we tend to want

01:11:22.960 this sort of

01:11:24.260 broad sense of justice

01:11:26.680 like a correction

01:11:27.500 against broad injustice

01:11:28.460 but there can't be

01:11:30.320 broad justice

01:11:31.580 without individual instances

01:11:33.140 of justice

01:11:34.160 you can't get to justice

01:11:35.360 through injustice

01:11:35.960 one way you know

01:11:36.620 and once it's over

01:11:37.260 you can't do a thing

01:11:38.020 about it

01:11:38.360 you can't correct slavery

01:11:39.400 you can't punish

01:11:40.220 a guy just because

01:11:41.280 he's white

01:11:41.740 for holding slaves

01:11:42.780 which he never held

01:11:43.460 it just doesn't work

01:11:44.300 that way

01:11:44.560 and the left

01:11:45.300 frequently thinks

01:11:46.080 without time

01:11:46.740 like with abortion

01:11:48.060 when they say

01:11:48.720 oh well that's not

01:11:49.620 really a person

01:11:50.240 you think like

01:11:50.800 yes it is

01:11:51.840 it's a person

01:11:52.300 at a certain time

01:11:53.200 in this time

01:11:54.560 that is his life

01:11:55.260 and I think that

01:11:56.140 the left does this

01:11:56.780 all the time

01:11:57.240 they just eliminate

01:11:57.880 the dimension of time

01:11:59.380 when they think

01:11:59.940 because how can you

01:12:01.060 how can you recompense

01:12:02.240 people who are dead

01:12:02.900 you can't

01:12:03.340 that's what injustice is

01:12:04.560 so this is a

01:12:05.580 legitimate question

01:12:06.300 for you guys

01:12:06.660 about Jussie Smollett

01:12:07.580 I referenced OJ

01:12:09.800 and one of the most

01:12:10.400 interesting things

01:12:11.060 to me about OJ

01:12:11.800 is that he didn't

01:12:12.500 get away with anything

01:12:13.340 right

01:12:14.060 he got away

01:12:15.520 in the moment

01:12:16.680 but there is

01:12:17.780 a kind of justice

01:12:18.760 a supernatural justice

01:12:19.880 that seems to exist

01:12:20.880 on earth

01:12:22.120 and in the act

01:12:23.940 of getting away with it

01:12:24.840 I think OJ Simpson

01:12:26.480 was so

01:12:27.120 not only

01:12:28.560 not only corrupted

01:12:29.340 because he's a murderer

01:12:30.120 but corrupted

01:12:31.240 by the idea

01:12:32.000 of his own

01:12:32.500 invulnerability

01:12:33.320 in the face

01:12:34.080 of the law

01:12:34.840 that it led him

01:12:35.960 to do other

01:12:36.520 terrible things

01:12:37.480 which eventually

01:12:38.060 caught up with him

01:12:39.020 will a similar justice

01:12:40.540 track Jussie Smollett

01:12:42.360 at some point

01:12:42.960 well the problem

01:12:43.280 is he's going to

01:12:43.760 need publicity

01:12:44.280 for something else

01:12:45.200 because if he just

01:12:46.140 disappears into the ether

01:12:47.100 and the last we hear

01:12:47.840 of him is this nonsense

01:12:48.940 then he's never

01:12:49.900 going to get hired again

01:12:50.760 you know maybe

01:12:52.000 although I will say

01:12:53.340 that the nice thing

01:12:54.480 OJ was never

01:12:55.500 he was in Hollywood

01:12:56.740 but he really was not

01:12:57.520 of Hollywood

01:12:58.300 I mean Jussie Smollett

01:12:59.780 is a Hollywood person

01:13:00.560 which means that

01:13:01.140 everybody gets a second shot

01:13:02.300 in Hollywood

01:13:03.000 five years from now

01:13:04.200 Jordan Peele will cast him

01:13:05.140 in a movie or something

01:13:05.840 and it'll just be

01:13:07.200 kind of a big joke

01:13:08.000 that he did this

01:13:08.820 five years ago

01:13:09.360 and we'll all laugh

01:13:09.920 about it

01:13:10.380 and he'll be like

01:13:11.140 oh well isn't that funny

01:13:11.920 that now he's back

01:13:12.700 doing this sort of stuff

01:13:13.640 although you have to be

01:13:14.340 pretty crazy

01:13:15.340 to do what he did

01:13:16.140 so maybe that'll catch up

01:13:17.200 he's a self-destructive human

01:13:19.680 he's a self-destructive human

01:13:19.700 I mean that's absolutely

01:13:20.620 when you believe

01:13:21.900 that everyone believes

01:13:23.520 your lie

01:13:24.080 I mean it's pretty audacious

01:13:25.380 to have the police

01:13:27.080 say you're guilty

01:13:27.740 the mayor say you're guilty

01:13:28.760 even the prosecutor

01:13:29.660 who just dropped the charges

01:13:30.720 say you're guilty

01:13:31.660 and the court

01:13:32.340 keep the bail money

01:13:34.240 yeah

01:13:34.540 and then your press conference

01:13:36.200 isn't

01:13:36.540 I'm really sorry about this

01:13:38.580 I'm very glad

01:13:40.000 obviously that

01:13:40.820 I'm not facing

01:13:41.640 worse charges

01:13:42.660 but instead you're

01:13:43.540 no I was a victim

01:13:44.920 I was always telling the truth

01:13:46.160 I wouldn't be able

01:13:47.100 to face my mama

01:13:47.900 if I had been alive

01:13:48.720 you talk like someone

01:13:50.140 who's never met an actor

01:13:51.000 which I know

01:13:51.500 but it's actually true

01:13:53.320 of everybody right

01:13:53.920 I mean brazening it out

01:13:54.780 is always the best thing

01:13:56.160 to do in modern politics

01:13:57.180 and anywhere in modern life

01:13:58.900 I mean we talked about

01:13:59.580 this a couple of episodes ago

01:14:00.540 in the graceless society

01:14:01.560 in the graceless society

01:14:02.380 if you were to apologize

01:14:03.180 then it'd be like

01:14:03.660 okay he can't work again

01:14:04.640 maybe because then

01:14:05.560 he's acknowledged his guilt

01:14:06.440 but if he never

01:14:07.260 acknowledges his guilt

01:14:08.020 then he can continue

01:14:08.720 to maintain that he was

01:14:09.420 beat up by two Nigerian

01:14:10.380 brothers in white face

01:14:11.400 under their ski masks

01:14:12.140 under their ski masks

01:14:13.580 I mean my going theory

01:14:14.820 of the case by the way

01:14:15.500 is that it wasn't

01:14:16.000 the Nigerian brothers at all

01:14:17.000 it was Ralph Northam

01:14:17.700 in black face

01:14:18.240 in white face

01:14:18.820 which is why

01:14:20.360 I think

01:14:21.720 I have no problem

01:14:23.140 with them dropping the charges

01:14:24.140 all they had to do

01:14:24.960 I thought that that would

01:14:25.920 actually be the best case scenario

01:14:27.240 is if they drop the charges

01:14:28.340 on the condition

01:14:29.320 that he go out

01:14:30.400 on the courthouse steps

01:14:31.300 and admit what he did

01:14:32.340 and then that's no problem

01:14:33.600 then they can say

01:14:34.160 yeah you're fine

01:14:34.900 because even if they had

01:14:36.480 given him two weeks

01:14:37.160 of jail time

01:14:37.640 and he could maintain

01:14:39.340 his innocence

01:14:39.740 then he still wins

01:14:40.940 in some respects

01:14:41.520 so that's what makes

01:14:42.460 this such a travesty

01:14:43.380 is that if they want

01:14:44.520 to claim

01:14:44.820 oh it wasn't worth

01:14:45.900 going through the whole

01:14:46.800 rigmarole of a trial

01:14:47.620 fine I get that

01:14:48.780 so then tell him

01:14:50.140 that he needs to go

01:14:51.040 the fact that you let him

01:14:52.100 go out on the courthouse steps

01:14:53.280 and claim innocence

01:14:55.640 is what makes this

01:14:56.920 such a travesty

01:14:57.360 and the fact that they

01:14:57.980 sealed the court records

01:14:59.440 means we don't even know

01:15:00.380 the deal that they

01:15:01.000 they banished them

01:15:01.120 did you see what

01:15:02.060 Kim Foxx said about that

01:15:02.880 she said we accidentally

01:15:03.820 applied to have

01:15:04.540 the court records sealed

01:15:05.240 she said we're now

01:15:06.100 applying to have them

01:15:06.840 unsealed

01:15:07.260 Chicago way

01:15:07.800 sure

01:15:08.340 they were saying

01:15:11.220 that this best week

01:15:12.060 ever with all this

01:15:12.700 crazy news

01:15:13.360 this the Jussie Smollett

01:15:14.940 thing that was why

01:15:15.720 I was a little too bad

01:15:16.760 because that was injustice

01:15:17.700 he got off the hook

01:15:18.640 no way

01:15:20.180 what are you

01:15:20.580 that's the

01:15:21.060 that's a little cherry

01:15:22.280 on top of the sundae

01:15:23.380 because now

01:15:24.240 it's such a gross

01:15:25.160 injustice

01:15:25.640 there is a chance

01:15:26.800 that the feds

01:15:27.340 look into this

01:15:27.880 look into both

01:15:28.500 how he got his deal

01:15:29.460 and look into the

01:15:30.420 fake hate mail hoax

01:15:31.600 but also

01:15:32.400 Republicans get to

01:15:33.740 point to this

01:15:34.620 as such an egregious

01:15:36.340 example of

01:15:37.340 of hoaxes

01:15:37.980 and identity politics

01:15:38.980 gone wrong

01:15:39.460 we can use this

01:15:40.280 for two years

01:15:40.740 the media coverage

01:15:41.980 of Smollett

01:15:42.520 has been hysterically

01:15:43.520 funny

01:15:43.860 Brian Stelter

01:15:44.960 the ombudsman

01:15:45.800 over at CNN

01:15:46.860 doing reliable sources

01:15:48.040 he gets on TV

01:15:49.060 after all this happens

01:15:49.940 and he goes

01:15:50.240 we may never know

01:15:51.200 what happened

01:15:51.520 with Jussie Smollett

01:15:52.340 because no one was there

01:15:53.480 I wasn't there

01:15:54.020 you weren't there

01:15:54.440 we may never know

01:15:55.280 what happened

01:15:55.740 with Jussie Smollett

01:15:56.760 weird because for two years

01:15:57.800 your entire network

01:15:58.380 was proclaiming

01:15:58.980 that President Trump

01:15:59.600 was a cat's paw

01:16:00.240 of the Russians

01:16:00.720 and he had no evidence

01:16:02.120 and it turned out

01:16:02.540 to be false

01:16:03.060 and he still wouldn't

01:16:04.020 apologize

01:16:04.320 for that

01:16:04.860 we have this way

01:16:05.300 of finding out

01:16:05.700 called a trial

01:16:06.820 the reason we don't know

01:16:09.240 this doofus

01:16:10.100 signed a personal check

01:16:11.920 to the people

01:16:12.920 who committed

01:16:13.400 a hate crime

01:16:14.040 against him

01:16:14.520 and called them

01:16:15.120 on the phone

01:16:15.700 an hour before

01:16:16.700 it happened

01:16:17.280 how many times

01:16:18.240 have you been

01:16:18.480 hate crimed

01:16:18.940 over that

01:16:19.300 guys he didn't

01:16:20.280 drop the Subway sandwich

01:16:21.360 we have all the proof

01:16:22.620 we need

01:16:22.880 that by the way

01:16:23.760 is the best

01:16:24.080 that will never die

01:16:25.080 that is the best part

01:16:26.100 of the story

01:16:26.540 those are good sandwiches

01:16:26.840 you don't want to

01:16:28.000 let go of your Subway sandwich

01:16:28.860 I gotta say

01:16:29.920 that if Subway

01:16:30.680 does not hire him

01:16:31.580 for a commercial campaign

01:16:33.360 after this

01:16:34.020 they've really

01:16:34.560 missed their opportunity

01:16:35.400 I mean if their two

01:16:36.500 spoke people

01:16:37.040 are not Jared

01:16:37.660 and Jussie

01:16:38.800 I mean that's

01:16:40.240 pretty fantastic

01:16:41.220 so Elisha

01:16:42.340 while we've got Matt here

01:16:43.360 let's see if any of our

01:16:44.460 Daily Wire subscribers

01:16:45.140 have questions

01:16:45.880 that he might know

01:16:46.440 the answer to

01:16:47.100 Lord knows we do not

01:16:48.680 Elisha

01:16:53.260 Elisha

01:16:53.740 oh sorry

01:16:55.120 you guys didn't even

01:16:56.100 give me a working umbrella

01:16:57.320 dear lord

01:16:58.500 there's not even

01:16:59.040 a working sun

01:16:59.820 where you are

01:17:00.400 I mean

01:17:00.840 well I don't know

01:17:01.920 it's a good thing

01:17:02.620 there's no working sun

01:17:03.500 because you don't pay me

01:17:04.220 enough to get Botox

01:17:05.040 so alrighty

01:17:06.560 that's true

01:17:07.120 this question

01:17:08.120 I guess it's for all

01:17:09.060 the guys

01:17:09.500 Charles wants to know

01:17:10.780 what would be your

01:17:11.620 advice to somebody

01:17:12.380 who yearns for the

01:17:13.360 freedom of the world

01:17:14.120 of philosophical commentary

01:17:15.440 but also wishes

01:17:16.540 to keep the security

01:17:17.520 of a full time job

01:17:18.760 they consider a bore

01:17:19.900 and mundane

01:17:20.760 give up that dream

01:17:24.720 that's not good

01:17:25.200 he did know the answer

01:17:28.960 that's the problem

01:17:30.880 these days

01:17:31.400 and that's what

01:17:32.620 makes it easier

01:17:33.140 people say to me

01:17:34.100 all the time

01:17:34.540 well how do you have

01:17:35.240 the courage

01:17:36.380 to speak your mind

01:17:37.320 well it's easy for me

01:17:38.860 because it's my job

01:17:39.780 to be a loud mouth

01:17:40.480 and have opinions

01:17:41.160 and we're all

01:17:42.900 in the same boat

01:17:43.500 our job is opinions

01:17:45.040 but it's a lot harder

01:17:46.460 when you have a real job

01:17:47.820 and then you're trying

01:17:50.120 to balance that

01:17:51.140 and being

01:17:51.900 the prudence of

01:17:52.800 when do I speak up

01:17:53.860 so that's a much

01:17:55.520 more difficult thing

01:17:56.440 which is why I think

01:17:57.880 people that are

01:17:59.320 in the opinion realm

01:18:00.620 would get way too much

01:18:01.260 credit I think

01:18:01.920 for being warriors

01:18:03.460 for truth

01:18:04.060 when really

01:18:04.520 this is what we do

01:18:06.080 this is definitely true

01:18:06.960 I will also say

01:18:07.820 that everybody

01:18:09.260 I think underlying

01:18:10.200 that question is

01:18:10.860 how do I get into

01:18:11.900 sort of the opinion business

01:18:13.180 and the answer is

01:18:14.460 you do a lot of stuff

01:18:15.700 for free

01:18:16.180 for a very long time

01:18:17.240 I mean really

01:18:18.120 like everybody

01:18:18.580 sort of wants to go

01:18:19.320 to immediately

01:18:19.940 Charles Krauthammer status

01:18:21.300 where just you're

01:18:22.520 on Fox News every night

01:18:23.500 or how did you get

01:18:24.520 where you are

01:18:25.080 how did you do this

01:18:25.560 I'm in year 18

01:18:28.060 of this project

01:18:28.860 I'm 35 years old

01:18:30.060 so I look

01:18:30.560 somewhat young

01:18:31.680 at this point still

01:18:32.620 I've been doing this

01:18:33.700 for nearly two decades

01:18:34.520 and for nearly no pay

01:18:36.160 for most of that time

01:18:37.120 and you also

01:18:37.600 acquired an expertise first

01:18:39.420 you are a Harvard lawyer

01:18:40.880 you've had a varied

01:18:41.940 career in show business

01:18:42.720 I have no idea

01:18:43.660 what normal

01:18:43.940 yeah well the real way

01:18:44.800 to do it

01:18:45.280 is to not write a book

01:18:46.720 I mean I hate

01:18:47.580 to disagree with you

01:18:48.360 this is actually

01:18:48.860 an interesting

01:18:49.200 because you know

01:18:49.720 I like to bring in

01:18:50.360 a little business advice

01:18:51.440 for how people

01:18:52.120 might be able

01:18:52.580 to make themselves

01:18:53.100 successful

01:18:53.560 so I like a question

01:18:54.480 like this

01:18:54.940 you bring up

01:18:55.780 working for free

01:18:56.620 one of the amazing

01:18:57.660 things that you

01:18:58.260 will hear people

01:18:58.960 say routinely

01:19:00.020 especially young people

01:19:01.260 is I know my value

01:19:02.240 I know what I'm worth

01:19:03.260 you'll say hey

01:19:04.060 I mean if you want

01:19:05.200 to write something for us

01:19:06.080 submit it

01:19:07.280 and we'll review it

01:19:08.100 and if we like it

01:19:08.600 I don't write for free

01:19:09.920 I know my value

01:19:11.020 I know my worth

01:19:12.060 I do too

01:19:13.120 I offered it to you

01:19:14.940 you have no worth

01:19:16.720 you have no value

01:19:17.720 your time

01:19:18.780 is not automatically

01:19:20.300 valuable

01:19:20.960 the fact that you

01:19:22.320 typed into a computer

01:19:23.760 does not create

01:19:25.240 value for me

01:19:26.160 value is when

01:19:27.880 I can take

01:19:28.540 what you've created

01:19:29.680 and I can monetize

01:19:31.180 it in some way

01:19:32.000 that brings in money

01:19:33.260 and then I can keep

01:19:34.080 some of that money

01:19:34.760 and I can give

01:19:35.460 some of the money

01:19:35.960 to you

01:19:36.200 that's the definition

01:19:37.080 of value

01:19:38.160 and in order

01:19:39.560 to gain value

01:19:40.540 as a commentator

01:19:41.800 you have to write

01:19:43.120 a lot of commentary

01:19:44.260 it's when people

01:19:45.280 in Hollywood

01:19:45.800 people will tell me

01:19:46.920 they want to move

01:19:47.400 to Hollywood

01:19:47.880 they'll say

01:19:48.380 you know in my hometown

01:19:49.300 I'm an actor

01:19:50.040 acting is my dream

01:19:51.640 so I want to move

01:19:52.320 to Hollywood

01:19:52.900 and I'll say

01:19:53.460 well you have

01:19:53.960 the wrong dream

01:19:54.540 because when you

01:19:55.600 move to Hollywood

01:19:56.180 the first thing

01:19:56.720 that happens

01:19:57.100 is you stop acting

01:19:58.080 you could do

01:19:59.520 you could do

01:20:00.180 high end

01:20:01.160 regional theater

01:20:03.040 or community theater

01:20:04.640 in your hometown

01:20:05.460 some of it very good

01:20:07.460 and you could probably

01:20:08.980 act in six shows a year

01:20:10.600 if you're worth your salt

01:20:12.560 back where you are

01:20:13.500 you move to LA

01:20:14.600 you may not act

01:20:15.540 for years

01:20:16.220 75 auditions

01:20:17.800 to book a role

01:20:19.320 is basically the average

01:20:20.580 for an actor

01:20:21.100 in Hollywood

01:20:21.800 and the role

01:20:22.180 might be one line

01:20:23.040 one day

01:20:23.640 same with musicians

01:20:25.260 people will say

01:20:26.000 you know I have this band

01:20:27.680 we play in bars

01:20:28.540 all around my hometown

01:20:29.380 my passion is playing music

01:20:31.820 so I'm going to move

01:20:32.400 to LA or Nashville

01:20:33.380 and make that

01:20:33.800 well you have the wrong

01:20:35.120 dream

01:20:35.900 you play music

01:20:37.200 where you are

01:20:37.860 moving to Nashville

01:20:39.000 is a way to not

01:20:40.060 play music anymore

01:20:41.080 because they don't

01:20:41.920 pay you 200 bucks

01:20:43.660 to play in a restaurant

01:20:45.160 in Nashville

01:20:45.800 because everyone

01:20:47.200 in Nashville plays music

01:20:48.200 the market is saturated

01:20:49.360 they do pay you that

01:20:51.520 in your small town

01:20:52.280 and even if they did

01:20:53.000 in Nashville

01:20:53.340 you couldn't live off

01:20:54.020 the 200 bucks

01:20:54.700 the way you can

01:20:55.640 in your small town

01:20:56.500 your actual ambition

01:20:58.220 is misstated

01:20:59.040 what you really mean

01:21:00.620 but you don't want to say

01:21:01.480 because it sounds terrible

01:21:02.380 is I would rather

01:21:04.520 act less

01:21:05.520 I would rather

01:21:06.920 play music less

01:21:08.300 for the opportunity

01:21:09.680 to gain a higher

01:21:11.960 level of recognition

01:21:12.740 or to play

01:21:14.060 at a higher level

01:21:14.820 with better people

01:21:15.420 or play on a greater

01:21:16.720 stage with a greater

01:21:17.680 audience

01:21:18.840 but that sounds

01:21:20.180 you know people

01:21:21.120 don't like to say

01:21:21.700 honest things about

01:21:22.340 themselves

01:21:22.640 so they say

01:21:23.460 my dream is acting

01:21:24.560 or my dream is

01:21:25.100 stay where you are

01:21:26.040 and at the end

01:21:28.220 of the day

01:21:28.680 what it takes

01:21:29.380 to be a musician

01:21:30.900 is playing music

01:21:31.760 and what it takes

01:21:32.280 to be an actor

01:21:33.280 is acting

01:21:33.720 what it takes

01:21:34.120 to be a commentator

01:21:34.980 is commentating

01:21:36.080 and over time

01:21:37.200 and learning things

01:21:38.120 and learning things

01:21:38.860 and getting good

01:21:39.600 you develop skill

01:21:41.180 and you

01:21:41.420 I will say

01:21:42.020 that the YouTube

01:21:42.440 culture has really

01:21:43.100 hurt us in this way

01:21:44.380 because there are

01:21:45.280 people who

01:21:45.860 somehow soar to stardom

01:21:47.520 without ever having

01:21:48.500 done anything

01:21:49.500 or learned anything

01:21:50.520 and listen

01:21:51.040 when I was younger

01:21:52.420 the dues paying stuff

01:21:53.740 pissed me off

01:21:54.860 really pissed me off

01:21:56.340 because I knew

01:21:56.960 I was more talented

01:21:57.720 than half the people

01:21:58.520 that I was watching

01:21:59.220 I knew that I knew

01:22:00.280 more stuff than they did

01:22:01.160 and I felt

01:22:01.840 it was a grave injustice

01:22:03.200 that I was not getting

01:22:03.980 more recognition

01:22:04.580 for the fact

01:22:05.180 that my writing

01:22:05.660 was very good

01:22:06.760 and that I'd really

01:22:07.560 studied these issues

01:22:08.440 but the fact is

01:22:09.880 that that required me

01:22:11.280 to put in more time

01:22:12.160 and the world

01:22:12.560 didn't owe me anything

01:22:13.660 and the same thing

01:22:14.580 I feel like

01:22:15.140 I mean Drew

01:22:15.620 how many scripts

01:22:16.200 have you written

01:22:16.580 and how many

01:22:16.960 have actually

01:22:17.280 made it to screen

01:22:17.920 oh my

01:22:18.320 I wrote I think

01:22:19.780 four novels

01:22:20.720 before I published one

01:22:21.940 and though

01:22:23.800 the thing about screenwriting

01:22:25.120 is you can make

01:22:25.660 a good living

01:22:26.060 without ever having

01:22:26.840 them get to screen

01:22:27.860 almost none

01:22:28.960 of the screenplays

01:22:29.520 I sold

01:22:30.020 for good money

01:22:31.060 made it to the screen

01:22:31.880 I mean that's

01:22:32.380 the movie business

01:22:32.960 I even want to puncture

01:22:33.960 one of the great dreams

01:22:35.200 that I get asked

01:22:36.420 this question

01:22:36.860 at every campus speech

01:22:37.880 because I actually

01:22:39.440 did get paid

01:22:40.080 a ton of money

01:22:40.740 to do nothing

01:22:41.380 I actually

01:22:41.980 like literally

01:22:42.560 nothing

01:22:43.080 now you're a number

01:22:44.360 one New York Times

01:22:45.020 best selling author

01:22:45.740 so that does

01:22:46.420 kid above

01:22:47.120 you know

01:22:47.400 but this was a

01:22:48.260 number one

01:22:48.760 best selling blank book

01:22:49.660 I worked

01:22:51.000 for

01:22:52.060 from the age of 18

01:22:53.480 to I don't know

01:22:54.660 when did I do the book

01:22:55.240 27 or something

01:22:56.160 I worked for Peanuts

01:22:57.640 all that time

01:22:58.840 I worked a million

01:22:59.560 political campaigns

01:23:00.440 I did a ton

01:23:01.420 of off

01:23:02.300 off off

01:23:02.780 off Broadway plays

01:23:04.100 for making pennies

01:23:05.020 and it

01:23:05.960 the only thing

01:23:07.040 that keeps you

01:23:07.740 going through that

01:23:08.660 is because you

01:23:09.260 want to do the thing

01:23:10.160 because you want

01:23:10.480 to write the columns

01:23:11.200 because you want

01:23:11.760 to write the books

01:23:12.360 because you want

01:23:12.940 to be in it

01:23:13.580 you want to do plays

01:23:14.500 you got to do it

01:23:15.760 for that

01:23:16.040 if you think

01:23:16.500 you're going to

01:23:16.800 get a payday

01:23:17.500 for it

01:23:18.440 I want to challenge

01:23:19.920 people used to

01:23:20.620 interview me

01:23:21.020 when I started

01:23:21.500 to hit it big

01:23:22.160 and get big money

01:23:23.180 for novels

01:23:23.820 and they would say

01:23:24.420 well you really

01:23:24.940 made a lot of money

01:23:25.600 I said we've got

01:23:26.180 to prorate it

01:23:26.940 that's right

01:23:28.300 we've prorated

01:23:29.220 over all the things

01:23:29.980 I wrote

01:23:30.260 for years

01:23:30.920 I've been writing

01:23:31.600 a syndicated column

01:23:32.300 since I was 17 years old

01:23:33.340 it started to make

01:23:34.980 any sort of money

01:23:35.960 that would even

01:23:36.300 look like money

01:23:36.960 in the last

01:23:37.640 three years

01:23:38.640 maybe

01:23:39.180 but I want to

01:23:40.720 challenge even this

01:23:41.360 thing

01:23:41.500 you said

01:23:41.880 it's kind of

01:23:42.480 unfortunate

01:23:42.800 we live in

01:23:43.180 the age of

01:23:43.500 YouTube

01:23:43.720 and people

01:23:44.420 can legitimately

01:23:45.120 become superstars

01:23:46.700 who've done

01:23:47.180 nothing

01:23:47.500 and it is true

01:23:48.720 and it's always

01:23:49.640 been true

01:23:50.040 in every medium

01:23:50.600 some guy

01:23:51.320 scratches out

01:23:51.920 nothing

01:23:52.260 on the page

01:23:53.140 and it becomes

01:23:54.220 a best-selling book

01:23:55.200 I mean that

01:23:55.540 that's a tale

01:23:56.420 as old as time

01:23:56.680 but that's not the norm

01:23:57.420 I mean that's not

01:23:58.240 but not only is it

01:23:59.300 not the norm

01:23:59.800 as you famously

01:24:00.920 have said

01:24:01.280 luck is not a business

01:24:02.240 model

01:24:02.480 but there is more

01:24:03.560 to it

01:24:03.980 which is

01:24:04.940 they may attain

01:24:06.500 a small measure

01:24:08.280 of fame

01:24:08.980 a large measure

01:24:09.960 of fame

01:24:10.380 rapidly on the

01:24:11.400 basis of nothing

01:24:12.120 but they won't

01:24:12.980 preserve fame

01:24:14.300 on the basis

01:24:14.700 of nothing

01:24:15.080 and a great example

01:24:16.020 of this

01:24:16.520 is Logan Paul

01:24:18.180 so Logan Paul

01:24:19.500 and his brother

01:24:20.280 are YouTube stars

01:24:22.040 Logan Paul

01:24:23.300 I'm not a connoisseur

01:24:25.280 of this content

01:24:25.960 as far as I can tell

01:24:27.180 he became very

01:24:27.960 very famous

01:24:28.740 for doing very

01:24:29.820 very dumb things

01:24:30.660 while a camera

01:24:31.200 was rolling

01:24:31.640 and you look at him

01:24:32.860 and he makes like

01:24:33.620 600 trillion dollars

01:24:35.620 he has a staff

01:24:37.040 of Logan Paul

01:24:37.960 and his buddies

01:24:38.580 they live in a

01:24:39.600 giant mansion

01:24:40.180 and it is

01:24:41.060 manna from heaven

01:24:41.840 and beautiful women

01:24:42.780 rain down upon them

01:24:43.580 and you wonder

01:24:44.300 like how is such

01:24:45.580 a thing possible

01:24:46.500 it seems like

01:24:47.520 an injustice

01:24:48.080 this week

01:24:50.140 Logan Paul

01:24:51.340 put out a video

01:24:52.600 a documentary

01:24:53.840 of his examination

01:24:55.440 of the flat earth

01:24:57.660 conspiracy theory

01:24:59.100 which is

01:25:00.640 as good

01:25:02.520 as any comedy film

01:25:04.300 made in the last decade

01:25:05.760 it's a 50 minute

01:25:07.140 feature

01:25:07.920 the production value

01:25:09.380 unbelievable

01:25:10.440 the skill

01:25:11.660 the directing

01:25:13.440 the editing

01:25:14.220 the performance

01:25:15.480 his performance

01:25:16.460 is subtle

01:25:17.120 it's self-deprecating

01:25:18.080 it's

01:25:18.880 brilliantly conceived

01:25:21.020 it took

01:25:21.860 stones

01:25:22.880 the size

01:25:24.520 of beach balls

01:25:25.820 to actually

01:25:27.220 put himself

01:25:28.360 in the environments

01:25:29.040 that he did

01:25:29.600 in order to

01:25:30.180 create this piece

01:25:31.220 of entertainment

01:25:32.240 and what I'm

01:25:32.980 I guess what I'm

01:25:33.540 trying to tell you

01:25:34.060 is Logan Paul

01:25:35.120 may have gotten

01:25:36.740 famous

01:25:37.280 for filming himself

01:25:38.920 do stupid things

01:25:39.820 and he may have

01:25:40.360 ridden a wave

01:25:41.180 that seems from the

01:25:42.400 outside to be

01:25:43.020 kind of unfair

01:25:43.740 he has maintained

01:25:45.440 his level of fame

01:25:46.800 he and many many

01:25:47.680 PewDiePie

01:25:48.600 and others

01:25:49.000 who have created

01:25:50.280 enormous brands

01:25:51.760 creating a brand

01:25:52.920 difficult

01:25:53.680 maintaining a brand

01:25:54.820 nearly impossible

01:25:55.960 improving your brand

01:25:57.580 he also generates

01:25:58.400 an insane amount

01:25:59.440 of content

01:25:59.940 that's right

01:26:00.760 spoiler alert

01:26:01.800 we've met

01:26:02.220 Logan Paul

01:26:02.760 and another

01:26:03.480 spoiler alert

01:26:04.040 he called me

01:26:04.520 a mother bleeping G

01:26:05.360 which was a really

01:26:06.680 interesting experience

01:26:07.440 but Logan Paul

01:26:09.300 told me

01:26:10.040 because I asked him

01:26:10.700 what's your daily schedule

01:26:11.500 I asked this to

01:26:12.060 kind of everybody

01:26:12.540 famous who comes by

01:26:13.260 what's your daily schedule

01:26:14.000 and he said

01:26:14.840 well I have a camera

01:26:15.940 on me for 10 hours a day

01:26:17.060 and then we spend

01:26:17.900 7 hours at night editing

01:26:19.020 that's right

01:26:19.740 he works 17 hours a day

01:26:21.320 I think that's one of the

01:26:22.140 that is one of the great things

01:26:23.060 that we talk about

01:26:23.540 paying your dues

01:26:24.080 and everything

01:26:24.400 but these days

01:26:26.040 you could cut out

01:26:26.620 the middle man

01:26:27.200 and if you do have

01:26:28.460 talent

01:26:29.020 you can just go right

01:26:29.900 to the people

01:26:31.720 and there are

01:26:32.600 some people

01:26:33.280 I tend to think

01:26:34.580 if you do manage

01:26:36.080 to attract a huge audience

01:26:37.340 that probably means

01:26:39.140 you have some sort

01:26:40.040 of talent

01:26:41.040 because there are

01:26:41.980 a billion people

01:26:42.760 on the internet

01:26:43.120 trying to do it

01:26:43.840 that's right

01:26:44.260 and so if you manage

01:26:45.440 to do it

01:26:45.820 it probably means

01:26:46.560 that you've got

01:26:47.420 something going on

01:26:48.080 so it is different now

01:26:49.380 the paying your dues thing

01:26:50.820 I think looks a little bit

01:26:52.060 different than it used to

01:26:52.960 it is also a matter

01:26:54.060 of investment

01:26:54.600 meaning that

01:26:55.540 what I see a lot

01:26:56.540 is people who

01:26:57.100 don't actually want

01:26:58.200 to invest

01:26:58.800 either their time

01:26:59.620 or their money

01:27:00.200 they want you

01:27:00.740 to invest your time

01:27:01.580 and your money

01:27:02.100 in them

01:27:02.520 and that's not a thing

01:27:03.780 either you've got to invest

01:27:04.980 an enormous amount

01:27:05.640 of time getting so good

01:27:06.440 at the thing

01:27:06.760 that I cannot turn down

01:27:07.920 the opportunity

01:27:08.480 to give you my money

01:27:09.340 or you have to put

01:27:10.980 in your own money

01:27:11.580 and risk

01:27:12.780 I mean you want the reward

01:27:13.980 you've got to take the risk

01:27:14.700 that's right

01:27:15.140 stuff like this

01:27:16.160 is a huge risk

01:27:16.940 that's the thing

01:27:17.860 with artists

01:27:18.560 and anybody who does

01:27:19.740 a creative job

01:27:20.520 you're risking your life

01:27:21.440 you're risking your whole life

01:27:22.420 because most people

01:27:23.340 who do this stuff

01:27:24.080 are smart enough

01:27:24.940 to have done something

01:27:25.720 much safer

01:27:26.360 you know

01:27:26.940 you could have been a lawyer

01:27:28.040 I mean you could have done

01:27:28.860 you know

01:27:29.120 I did

01:27:29.740 I worked at a law firm

01:27:30.600 right

01:27:30.840 and that's the thing

01:27:32.620 most of them are putting aside

01:27:34.000 a way of life

01:27:35.440 and taking this

01:27:36.460 incredible risk

01:27:37.460 with your whole life

01:27:38.080 you can wind up

01:27:38.680 and I've seen it happen

01:27:39.560 to people

01:27:39.880 you can wind up 50

01:27:40.880 with nothing

01:27:41.500 you know

01:27:42.100 not me boys

01:27:43.780 it was smooth sailing

01:27:44.900 all the way here

01:27:45.440 and absolutely nothing else

01:27:47.580 that I'm qualified to do

01:27:48.420 on earth

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01:28:37.420 oh I do have a question

01:28:39.460 after seeing that wide shot

01:28:40.760 now that Michael Knowles

01:28:41.700 is closer to that camera

01:28:43.300 he once asked me

01:28:44.960 for my waxer

01:28:45.840 and I thought it was

01:28:46.860 for his wife

01:28:47.620 it's very apparent

01:28:49.280 it was for his very own legs

01:28:50.720 and now I am mortified

01:28:52.060 listen I know that

01:28:53.220 transgenderism

01:28:54.480 is becoming

01:28:55.080 the new dominant theme

01:28:56.380 and listen

01:28:57.060 I'm just saying

01:28:57.760 there aren't a lot of roles

01:28:58.660 in Hollywood for men

01:28:59.680 half the roles

01:29:00.500 are for women

01:29:01.080 why wouldn't I

01:29:02.140 leave myself available

01:29:03.180 for that?

01:29:03.880 make it stop

01:29:04.780 make it stop

01:29:05.500 we've hit a new left

01:29:06.300 Joe frickin' Nameth

01:29:08.500 over here

01:29:08.840 hopefully we can end

01:29:10.560 on a high note

01:29:11.240 and tell Sam

01:29:12.220 where he can go

01:29:13.340 for the most

01:29:14.220 conservative vacation spot

01:29:16.000 considering that this

01:29:16.940 is a very special

01:29:17.680 spring break edition

01:29:18.860 Matt?

01:29:21.320 the best vacation spot?

01:29:23.140 yeah

01:29:23.280 the Vatican

01:29:23.720 yeah I've been living

01:29:25.420 in my car for 32 years

01:29:26.460 I don't go on vacation

01:29:29.500 so I don't know

01:29:30.240 Six Flags

01:29:30.900 I mean

01:29:31.200 I've got the most

01:29:33.260 conservative vacation spot

01:29:34.500 Waikiki Beach

01:29:36.640 in the

01:29:37.740 for some reason

01:29:38.540 it's a state

01:29:39.300 of Hawaii

01:29:40.260 this is the most

01:29:41.440 conservative thing

01:29:42.240 because one

01:29:43.000 it's beautiful

01:29:43.800 it's almost entirely

01:29:45.020 man made

01:29:45.620 on that beach

01:29:46.360 it is so gorgeous

01:29:47.720 everything has been

01:29:48.800 manicured perfectly

01:29:49.700 for you

01:29:50.160 you've got

01:29:50.800 steak houses

01:29:51.540 you've got

01:29:52.240 the cheesecake factory

01:29:53.460 you've got

01:29:54.360 every single

01:29:55.300 beautiful comfort

01:29:56.260 you want

01:29:56.880 no driving

01:29:57.860 no nothing

01:29:58.700 they hand you

01:29:59.400 big silly drinks

01:30:00.260 in big silly glasses

01:30:01.220 like this

01:30:01.780 it is

01:30:02.600 how's the cell service

01:30:03.480 and this

01:30:03.940 oh

01:30:04.280 you can be

01:30:06.700 Instagramming

01:30:07.420 it is the most

01:30:08.200 American

01:30:08.840 vacation spot

01:30:10.260 on earth

01:30:10.580 Andrew

01:30:11.060 I gotta say Rome

01:30:12.220 I gotta say Rome

01:30:13.020 all of Western history

01:30:14.280 is right there

01:30:14.920 you can turn over

01:30:15.780 Iraq

01:30:16.180 and you've got

01:30:16.660 like Catholic history

01:30:17.940 you can turn it over

01:30:18.460 you get the Roman Empire

01:30:19.660 you can turn it over

01:30:20.520 you get the Renaissance

01:30:21.600 you get the Jews

01:30:22.140 being oppressed

01:30:22.640 the Jews

01:30:23.000 keep turning it

01:30:23.700 part of Western

01:30:24.460 civilization right

01:30:25.260 I'll go one further

01:30:27.560 Delphi and Greece

01:30:28.940 I was once

01:30:30.440 by Moon

01:30:31.180 there's a true story

01:30:31.800 by Moonlight

01:30:32.560 broke into

01:30:33.960 the Oracle

01:30:35.060 hiked down the hill

01:30:36.460 around the security

01:30:37.500 station

01:30:38.500 came in

01:30:39.380 beautiful full moon

01:30:40.860 sat at the amphitheater

01:30:42.520 had one of the most

01:30:43.620 sort of transcendent

01:30:44.420 experiences of my life

01:30:45.520 lifted up a rock

01:30:46.540 looked under it

01:30:47.080 and it said

01:30:47.340 Socrates was here

01:30:48.260 Benjamin

01:30:50.540 in English

01:30:52.540 I'll take the other half

01:30:54.180 of Western civilization

01:30:54.940 so I still think

01:30:56.180 that visiting Israel

01:30:56.860 is probably the most

01:30:57.760 conservative place

01:30:58.380 that it can be

01:30:58.760 not only is it

01:30:59.520 a Western civilized

01:31:00.520 country in an area

01:31:01.940 that is not Western

01:31:02.740 or civilized

01:31:03.460 it is also the font

01:31:05.740 of the Judeo-Christian

01:31:08.160 morality that has

01:31:09.260 shaped the West

01:31:10.040 in the most profound

01:31:11.040 ways

01:31:11.340 and also

01:31:12.120 it is an order of

01:31:13.600 magnitude more ancient

01:31:14.400 than anything else

01:31:15.020 you will ever see

01:31:15.580 I mean you go there

01:31:16.720 and it is astonishing

01:31:17.820 every so often

01:31:19.160 it hits you

01:31:19.560 and it's funny

01:31:20.160 I know it hit you

01:31:21.000 Jeremy when you

01:31:21.440 visit it

01:31:21.780 but I remember

01:31:22.800 that I'm a big

01:31:23.780 history buff

01:31:24.360 and so when I was

01:31:25.000 younger I was very

01:31:25.540 into revolutionary war

01:31:26.580 history

01:31:26.820 this is my thing

01:31:27.480 and so when we

01:31:27.880 went to Philadelphia

01:31:28.420 I was like

01:31:28.720 oh my god

01:31:29.160 this is so cool

01:31:29.740 here's the Liberty Bell

01:31:30.580 and this stuff

01:31:31.280 is like

01:31:31.600 it's so old

01:31:32.720 I mean this stuff

01:31:33.260 is from like 1776

01:31:34.560 this stuff is like

01:31:35.420 225 years old

01:31:37.820 this is like 2000

01:31:38.540 it's like 225 years old

01:31:39.920 this is amazing

01:31:40.740 and then we go to Israel

01:31:41.780 and it's like

01:31:42.180 okay so take that

01:31:43.180 and now multiply it by 10

01:31:44.060 and that's

01:31:45.820 these are the stones

01:31:47.080 where the Judean revolt

01:31:49.520 was fought

01:31:50.820 right

01:31:51.540 I mean I have coins

01:31:52.500 in my house

01:31:52.920 actually I bought

01:31:53.820 a couple of ancient coins

01:31:55.340 so I have a coin

01:31:57.800 from the Hersanus regime

01:31:59.260 which predates Christ

01:32:00.920 by several hundred years

01:32:01.860 and then I have a coin

01:32:03.480 from the revolt

01:32:05.180 the Bar Kokhba revolt

01:32:06.020 and these things

01:32:07.820 are thousands of years old

01:32:09.560 and you're walking around

01:32:10.320 and you're like

01:32:10.500 okay well

01:32:10.860 what's great about it

01:32:12.000 is the description

01:32:13.200 of Jerusalem

01:32:13.680 in all of western literature

01:32:14.960 sort of the axis mundi

01:32:15.960 is the central pillar

01:32:17.080 of humanity

01:32:18.680 it's just true

01:32:20.080 when you're there

01:32:20.680 it does feel different

01:32:21.920 than any place else

01:32:22.640 I've ever been to Rome

01:32:23.460 it's amazing

01:32:24.080 it would be my second favorite

01:32:25.280 I mean I love Italy

01:32:26.580 it is spectacular

01:32:27.360 I've been to France

01:32:28.680 I've been to Britain

01:32:29.300 Britain is a wonderful place

01:32:30.360 you go to Israel

01:32:31.700 there's a different feel

01:32:32.760 to everything there

01:32:34.080 it's almost

01:32:34.520 it's like there's a different

01:32:35.600 spiritual dimension

01:32:36.540 to just being there

01:32:38.060 and then you're walking

01:32:38.940 through a valley

01:32:39.420 where David slew Goliath

01:32:40.800 I mean it's an actual place

01:32:42.140 you're like this

01:32:43.140 you know the civilization

01:32:44.480 we stand on the top

01:32:45.540 I mean this is the theme

01:32:46.140 of my book

01:32:46.460 but it really

01:32:47.360 it's moving to me

01:32:48.760 we stand on top

01:32:50.020 when you see a skyscraper

01:32:51.120 in New York

01:32:51.460 when you see a car

01:32:52.940 driving down the street

01:32:53.700 that is standing

01:32:54.700 all of that

01:32:55.420 is happening atop

01:32:56.480 the iceberg

01:32:57.660 and if you just keep

01:32:59.040 digging down

01:32:59.700 to the bottom of the iceberg

01:33:01.140 to the seabed

01:33:02.200 that's where Jerusalem is

01:33:03.800 and so we can talk

01:33:04.840 as much as we want

01:33:05.460 about all the beautiful

01:33:06.060 things that we built

01:33:06.640 up here at the top

01:33:07.220 of the iceberg

01:33:07.680 but the fact is

01:33:08.580 if you keep melting away

01:33:09.940 and chipping away

01:33:10.660 at the bottom of that iceberg

01:33:11.700 that stuff ain't gonna stand

01:33:13.400 it's just not gonna stand

01:33:14.360 and you don't realize that

01:33:15.180 until you actually study

01:33:16.060 your civilization

01:33:16.580 whether it is in Greece

01:33:17.660 or whether it's in Rome

01:33:18.440 or whether it's in Israel

01:33:20.440 which I think is the place

01:33:21.360 where it runs the deepest

01:33:22.360 I'm just so pleased

01:33:23.400 to have heard Ben

01:33:24.040 acknowledge the historicity

01:33:25.120 of Christ

01:33:25.800 Alicia

01:33:28.800 another question for us

01:33:32.820 alright Christian wants to know

01:33:34.220 should he get married

01:33:35.020 at 18

01:33:35.540 even if he has to live

01:33:36.880 on ends meet

01:33:37.600 and work a minimum wage job

01:33:39.220 if it will result

01:33:40.360 in long term happiness

01:33:42.920 down the road

01:33:43.620 yes

01:33:44.100 by show of hands

01:33:45.400 I say yes

01:33:47.960 but I didn't do it

01:33:48.840 I mean did you guys

01:33:49.640 get married at 18

01:33:50.720 I assume

01:33:51.520 I would have met the girl

01:33:52.540 you get married young

01:33:53.960 and then that is the foundation

01:33:55.820 of your adulthood

01:33:58.020 rather than it being

01:33:58.760 the capstone of it

01:33:59.740 you begin there

01:34:00.780 and then you go through

01:34:01.940 that journey

01:34:02.480 and having nothing

01:34:03.320 and that struggle

01:34:04.060 with your spouse

01:34:05.320 and then you bond over that

01:34:06.900 I think the problem is

01:34:07.960 when you have people

01:34:08.440 that you know

01:34:09.800 they have their own life

01:34:11.040 and then they go get married

01:34:11.960 and so you have

01:34:12.660 a lot of these issues

01:34:13.440 where now you're trying

01:34:14.820 to merge these two

01:34:15.640 separate existences

01:34:16.600 instead of forging

01:34:18.020 one existence together

01:34:18.840 I will tell you

01:34:19.640 I married the girl

01:34:21.840 that I was dating at 18

01:34:22.860 I am one of these weird stories

01:34:24.400 where the whole culture

01:34:25.220 told us

01:34:25.700 split up

01:34:26.600 it's insane

01:34:27.800 especially I'm from New York

01:34:28.800 it's insane

01:34:29.780 you could never get married

01:34:30.900 that young

01:34:31.380 you gotta split up

01:34:32.120 go to college

01:34:32.620 whatever

01:34:32.860 and I ended up

01:34:34.580 fighting that culture

01:34:35.700 for years

01:34:36.940 and ended up marrying

01:34:38.320 the girl I dated at 18

01:34:40.340 if I had it to do over

01:34:42.000 I would have done it

01:34:42.600 years and years

01:34:43.200 and years earlier

01:34:43.700 and I have to say

01:34:44.540 having been married longer

01:34:45.840 probably than all you guys

01:34:46.640 put together

01:34:47.080 that you become

01:34:48.820 a true partnership

01:34:50.500 in a way that is mystical

01:34:51.900 I mean it is just

01:34:52.800 after a while

01:34:53.500 you are just

01:34:54.460 you know you start out

01:34:55.460 with all these things

01:34:56.120 like you're talking about

01:34:56.820 you have to merge

01:34:57.380 these two lives

01:34:58.100 and after a while

01:34:58.920 you're one life

01:34:59.560 and that's an incredibly

01:35:00.560 beautiful thing

01:35:01.160 it's funny the other day

01:35:02.100 I was talking to my wife

01:35:02.800 about something

01:35:03.240 and I can't remember

01:35:03.860 what it was

01:35:04.320 and I said

01:35:04.580 you remember when this

01:35:05.200 happened to me

01:35:05.740 and she said

01:35:06.260 no that happened to me

01:35:06.920 this is just something

01:35:08.100 that you end up doing

01:35:08.740 with your spouse

01:35:09.240 all the time

01:35:09.760 where your memories

01:35:10.400 become your spouse's memories

01:35:11.660 like you actually

01:35:12.580 you become two halves

01:35:14.500 of one whole

01:35:15.040 and that's

01:35:16.020 it is one of the great

01:35:16.820 tragedies of the West

01:35:18.100 that people are getting

01:35:19.240 married at 28

01:35:19.920 and not getting married

01:35:20.620 at 21

01:35:21.040 it is absolute stupidity

01:35:22.980 I mean

01:35:23.420 how old was everybody

01:35:24.640 when they got married

01:35:25.220 yeah I was about to say

01:35:25.820 Drew how old were you

01:35:26.420 well now when we moved

01:35:28.220 in together

01:35:28.760 I was about 21

01:35:30.700 but we got married

01:35:32.240 years later

01:35:32.860 but we lived together

01:35:33.620 before that

01:35:34.160 how long did you

01:35:34.920 live together first

01:35:35.440 four years

01:35:36.220 four years

01:35:36.720 Michael Helgren

01:35:37.640 I was 27 I guess

01:35:38.700 28

01:35:39.120 Matt

01:35:39.460 I was 25 years old

01:35:43.080 when we got married

01:35:43.760 24

01:35:44.260 24

01:35:44.800 I was the oldest

01:35:45.660 at 30

01:35:46.200 okay

01:35:46.820 that's old

01:35:47.440 I win again guys

01:35:48.320 listen there are

01:35:49.740 consequences to

01:35:50.380 getting married old

01:35:51.080 you know

01:35:51.600 higher likelihood

01:35:54.360 of divorce for one

01:35:55.240 higher likelihood of divorce

01:35:56.460 married

01:35:57.100 your options for marriage

01:35:59.060 do change

01:35:59.840 right

01:36:00.540 the nature of the

01:36:01.860 foundations of your marriage

01:36:02.780 is going to

01:36:03.220 necessarily

01:36:04.220 be different

01:36:05.660 and there are

01:36:06.800 biological consequences

01:36:07.780 to getting married

01:36:08.460 older as well

01:36:10.060 that's not to say

01:36:11.480 that people should be

01:36:12.820 completely foolish

01:36:13.560 although I do

01:36:14.300 I do generally say

01:36:16.020 that any

01:36:17.200 Christian

01:36:18.140 young man

01:36:20.200 can marry

01:36:20.580 any Christian young woman

01:36:21.740 and it can be

01:36:22.740 and it will work

01:36:23.300 if they believe

01:36:24.740 in the institution

01:36:26.200 of marriage itself

01:36:27.060 I'm not saying

01:36:28.060 that that's

01:36:28.520 necessarily

01:36:28.940 the preferred way

01:36:29.920 of going about this

01:36:31.400 although

01:36:31.600 it actually did work

01:36:33.340 for many thousands

01:36:33.920 of years

01:36:34.200 and I say Christian

01:36:35.140 I really mean

01:36:36.440 people who share

01:36:37.220 a foundational

01:36:38.180 you're right

01:36:38.720 that commitment

01:36:40.740 to the institution

01:36:41.600 of marriage

01:36:42.040 is actually

01:36:42.600 more important

01:36:43.560 than the soulmate

01:36:44.100 idea of marriage

01:36:44.640 so there's a really

01:36:45.200 interesting thread today

01:36:46.080 from the National

01:36:46.700 Foundation for Marriage

01:36:47.560 I think is what it's called

01:36:48.220 about

01:36:48.860 marriages are now

01:36:50.280 lasting longer

01:36:50.860 so we've actually

01:36:51.280 reversed the trend

01:36:52.000 and one of the

01:36:53.120 reasons that

01:36:54.320 is suggested

01:36:55.080 is that the 1980s

01:36:56.720 and 90s version

01:36:57.620 of what marriage

01:36:58.340 was supposed to be

01:36:58.900 the soulmate version

01:36:59.860 of marriage

01:37:00.400 which ended so poorly

01:37:01.860 because people thought

01:37:02.680 soulmate means

01:37:03.320 madly in love

01:37:04.540 passionate about each other

01:37:05.800 and just the way

01:37:06.400 that I was

01:37:06.760 the first six months

01:37:07.460 of the marriage

01:37:07.780 which is not true

01:37:08.620 for anyone

01:37:09.320 love changes

01:37:10.160 it transmutes

01:37:10.880 it becomes deeper

01:37:11.580 it becomes more profound

01:37:12.400 in many ways

01:37:12.960 but it's not quite as like

01:37:14.120 I can't wait to be

01:37:14.960 with the person

01:37:15.420 every single second

01:37:16.340 of every single day

01:37:17.280 the way that it is

01:37:18.060 when you're first

01:37:18.440 dating somebody

01:37:19.120 for example

01:37:19.840 that model

01:37:20.800 completely failed

01:37:21.700 and it's been

01:37:22.420 it's been replaced

01:37:23.160 by what they call

01:37:23.980 the all-factor view

01:37:24.740 of marriage

01:37:25.060 which is commitment

01:37:25.920 to common goals

01:37:27.560 common values

01:37:28.740 the institution itself

01:37:30.100 that's the good stuff

01:37:32.220 and it used to be

01:37:33.680 I mean

01:37:33.920 the separation of sex

01:37:35.140 from marriage

01:37:35.500 has had dire ramifications

01:37:37.100 for our society

01:37:37.880 in an incredibly serious way

01:37:38.900 the other problem

01:37:39.400 with the soulmate thing

01:37:40.380 is that if you say

01:37:41.420 well I'm looking

01:37:41.880 for my soulmate

01:37:42.520 someone was destined

01:37:43.240 in the stars

01:37:43.840 you know

01:37:44.180 we were meant

01:37:44.600 to be together

01:37:45.120 well okay

01:37:46.040 well then what happens

01:37:46.920 when you marry someone

01:37:48.140 you thought was your soulmate

01:37:49.160 and then that feeling dies

01:37:51.660 and then oh

01:37:52.200 you meet the secretary

01:37:53.120 at work

01:37:53.540 and you say

01:37:53.860 oh no

01:37:54.240 she was my soulmate

01:37:55.080 yeah I got this wrong

01:37:56.260 okay so I gotta leave

01:37:57.120 my wife and go to her

01:37:57.960 no it's

01:37:59.380 you know the person

01:38:00.440 becomes your soulmate

01:38:01.340 this is what the sacrament

01:38:02.160 of marriage is

01:38:02.800 in Christianity anyway

01:38:03.620 the person becomes

01:38:05.460 your soulmate

01:38:06.040 literally

01:38:06.520 in a metaphysical sense

01:38:08.260 when you marry them

01:38:09.300 they weren't your soulmate

01:38:10.320 before that

01:38:10.980 but in that moment

01:38:12.080 of bestowing that sacrament

01:38:13.720 onto each other

01:38:14.540 now you're locked

01:38:16.080 and that's why

01:38:17.420 Christianity

01:38:18.140 it's supposed to be

01:38:18.800 that you literally

01:38:19.660 cannot separate

01:38:21.480 and this is

01:38:22.800 that is such a good point

01:38:23.860 because I've asked people

01:38:25.480 before I got married

01:38:26.280 I said what's the secret

01:38:27.040 to a long marriage

01:38:27.860 to people who have done it

01:38:28.880 and they gave a lot of advice

01:38:30.160 patience

01:38:30.680 all this sort of thing

01:38:31.580 and don't get divorced

01:38:33.380 is what people told me

01:38:34.380 don't get divorced

01:38:35.260 and it is

01:38:35.820 in the traditional

01:38:36.880 Christian view

01:38:37.700 divorce is not permissible

01:38:40.000 and so if you go in

01:38:41.460 and you say look

01:38:42.120 we better

01:38:43.000 if there's a little tiff

01:38:44.180 we better work this out

01:38:45.260 because divorce

01:38:46.540 is not going to happen

01:38:48.020 so you better

01:38:49.640 work it out

01:38:50.180 there is a real

01:38:51.340 sense of security

01:38:52.240 and comfort there

01:38:52.980 you say you

01:38:53.680 you are by definition

01:38:55.120 my soulmate

01:38:55.880 so we're going to be together

01:38:57.000 I discovered this

01:38:57.960 backwards

01:38:58.460 I was not committed

01:39:00.200 to the institution

01:39:01.080 of marriage

01:39:01.420 or to anything

01:39:01.940 when I got married

01:39:02.700 I was too young

01:39:03.540 and too nuts

01:39:04.080 you know

01:39:04.380 and I think that

01:39:05.340 what I was committed to

01:39:06.560 I was madly in love

01:39:07.620 with my wife

01:39:08.120 as I am to this very day

01:39:09.460 and slowly

01:39:10.340 I began to notice

01:39:11.160 that there was a third thing

01:39:12.360 that bound us together

01:39:13.200 and it was really

01:39:14.120 this marriage

01:39:14.740 kind of purified

01:39:15.780 all our own

01:39:16.840 kind of shambolic

01:39:17.640 flaws and tendencies

01:39:19.360 and was actually better

01:39:21.060 than either of us

01:39:22.120 alone

01:39:22.720 and so I kind of

01:39:23.500 discovered the institution

01:39:24.620 of marriage

01:39:25.200 by providence

01:39:26.400 and it really

01:39:27.820 is a real thing

01:39:29.160 it's a real thing

01:39:30.000 and if you commit to it

01:39:30.940 I think that you're

01:39:32.360 in solid

01:39:33.500 because it's a beautiful

01:39:34.300 way to live

01:39:34.760 kids too

01:39:35.640 I mean that's what

01:39:36.540 you know

01:39:36.840 the kids need

01:39:38.520 the security

01:39:38.940 of knowing

01:39:39.400 that both parents

01:39:40.140 are devoted

01:39:42.680 to this marriage

01:39:43.520 and I can remember

01:39:44.160 when I was a kid

01:39:44.820 and all of my friends

01:39:46.680 all their parents

01:39:47.160 were getting divorced

01:39:47.720 and I talked to my mom

01:39:49.280 one night

01:39:49.840 and I was very upset

01:39:50.540 and I said

01:39:50.900 all my friends

01:39:52.140 are getting divorced

01:39:52.660 what if that happens

01:39:53.400 to you and dad

01:39:54.580 and she looked at me

01:39:55.180 and she said

01:39:55.620 we will never get divorced

01:39:57.580 period

01:39:58.060 it will never happen

01:39:59.080 and I believed her

01:40:00.620 and it was

01:40:01.380 but I needed to know that

01:40:02.680 that they both felt that way

01:40:04.340 no matter what happens

01:40:05.460 that is just not an option

01:40:07.180 it's not on the table

01:40:07.980 and for me

01:40:09.520 as a child

01:40:10.260 I needed that assurance

01:40:11.640 and there's a lot of kids

01:40:12.380 growing up

01:40:12.760 who don't have that security

01:40:14.400 and I think it wreaks havoc

01:40:15.560 on them

01:40:15.900 you know

01:40:16.240 when I see people

01:40:18.060 and I know a lot of them

01:40:19.200 who have left their wives

01:40:21.120 mostly I know guys

01:40:22.480 who have left their wives

01:40:23.340 with children

01:40:24.460 small children behind

01:40:25.600 and they always say to me

01:40:27.460 and I know women

01:40:28.540 who say this too

01:40:29.080 they always say

01:40:29.440 the kids will be fine

01:40:30.180 the kids will adapt

01:40:31.060 and I thought

01:40:31.640 yeah you blew up their planet

01:40:33.080 you blew their planet up

01:40:34.760 they're floating in space

01:40:35.620 they'll never be alright

01:40:36.640 they will never ever be

01:40:37.880 alright

01:40:38.220 and I think that that

01:40:39.440 it's such a travesty

01:40:41.140 for a momentary

01:40:42.400 you have that story

01:40:43.020 of the person

01:40:43.540 who got the divorce

01:40:47.160 and their child

01:40:49.640 became an adult

01:40:50.340 it was many years later

01:40:51.220 their child's 18, 19 years old

01:40:52.520 I'll ruin this story

01:40:53.420 it was 10 years later

01:40:54.820 and the child

01:40:55.280 went off the rails

01:40:55.920 and went so badly

01:40:57.360 off the rails

01:40:57.800 they finally had to do

01:40:58.560 that thing

01:40:58.820 where they virtually

01:40:59.340 kidnapped the kid

01:41:00.160 and take them

01:41:00.960 to a psychiatrist

01:41:01.740 and they all sat down

01:41:02.780 to the psychiatrist

01:41:03.460 and the first words

01:41:05.000 out of her mouth

01:41:05.520 were

01:41:05.700 why did you get divorced

01:41:06.920 and the mother said

01:41:08.600 that was 10 years ago

01:41:09.960 and it's like

01:41:11.340 yeah

01:41:11.880 you blow up somebody's planet

01:41:13.120 it sticks

01:41:14.020 you know

01:41:14.460 they remember

01:41:14.980 I mean

01:41:15.480 Jesus had a lot to say

01:41:17.080 about this

01:41:17.480 and I always

01:41:17.900 it always makes me laugh

01:41:19.080 when they cast

01:41:19.720 gay people out of the church

01:41:21.120 but they have a divorce workshop

01:41:23.080 you know

01:41:23.620 marriage is one of the few issues

01:41:27.960 divorce is one of the few issues

01:41:29.100 one of the few sort of

01:41:30.540 hot button societal issues

01:41:31.960 that Jesus spoke about

01:41:33.920 very directly

01:41:34.600 that's right

01:41:34.980 and he

01:41:35.300 because on a lot of

01:41:36.300 you know

01:41:36.700 he spoke in parables

01:41:37.580 and sometimes it's very frustrating

01:41:38.800 that you're trying to decipher

01:41:39.740 well what does that mean

01:41:40.560 on marriage though

01:41:42.020 he said

01:41:42.560 no you can't get divorced

01:41:43.660 can't do it

01:41:44.500 if you do that

01:41:45.160 you're an adulterer

01:41:46.380 if you remarry

01:41:47.680 then you're making that person

01:41:48.480 an adulterer

01:41:49.420 that's right there

01:41:50.540 it's in all the gospels

01:41:51.400 and yet Christians

01:41:52.900 still find a way to

01:41:53.880 yeah he said that

01:41:54.920 and we worked hard

01:41:56.480 you know

01:41:56.680 we worked hard

01:41:57.100 to keep the marriage going

01:41:58.060 I mean in the Old Testament

01:41:59.340 there's a very bizarre section

01:42:00.740 that's very hard to understand

01:42:01.720 about a husband

01:42:02.320 who accuses his wife

01:42:03.460 of being an adulteress

01:42:04.420 and so they're supposed

01:42:05.320 to go to the Kohen Godel

01:42:06.560 they're supposed to go to the priest

01:42:07.320 and he is supposed to

01:42:08.900 make her drink

01:42:09.520 this kind of magic potion

01:42:10.520 where he dissolves

01:42:11.040 the name of God

01:42:11.620 and then he makes her drink it

01:42:12.620 and then if she's an adulteress

01:42:13.960 then she dies essentially

01:42:15.380 and if she's not an adulteress

01:42:16.780 then she lives

01:42:17.260 and they have to get married

01:42:18.040 they have to stay married

01:42:18.880 and it's very puzzling

01:42:20.720 it's very weird

01:42:21.160 it's called the Sota section

01:42:22.200 of the Bible

01:42:22.980 this is in numbers right?

01:42:24.220 yes

01:42:24.600 and it's really strange

01:42:26.380 and people don't really understand it

01:42:27.600 the purpose of that whole

01:42:29.800 that whole situation

01:42:31.640 the purpose of that illustration

01:42:32.880 is that it is forbidden

01:42:34.180 in the Ten Commandments

01:42:35.540 to take God's name in vain

01:42:36.520 God is very serious

01:42:37.860 about you not destroying his name

01:42:38.960 in Jewish law

01:42:40.000 if there's a scroll

01:42:41.220 any piece of parchment

01:42:42.020 any piece of paper

01:42:42.760 where you write God's name out

01:42:44.100 this is why Orthodox

01:42:44.840 many Orthodox Jews

01:42:45.560 won't write even in English

01:42:47.040 the word God

01:42:47.580 they'll do G-D

01:42:48.660 because they don't actually

01:42:49.680 want to throw it in the trash

01:42:50.380 you actually have to take the scroll

01:42:51.220 you have to go bury it

01:42:51.900 it's how seriously

01:42:52.660 we take the name of God

01:42:53.640 you're not allowed to pronounce

01:42:55.140 what we call

01:42:56.520 you're not even allowed

01:42:57.720 to spell it

01:42:58.480 with the letters

01:42:59.100 that would be Jehovah

01:42:59.820 in the English transliteration

01:43:01.820 but in Latin

01:43:02.400 exactly

01:43:03.640 why

01:43:05.500 but the purpose there

01:43:08.700 is that God considers

01:43:09.700 the institution of marriage

01:43:10.740 so serious

01:43:11.460 that he is more willing

01:43:12.800 to have his own name

01:43:13.860 trampled and dissolved

01:43:14.980 than to allow marriage

01:43:16.360 to dissolve for bad reasons

01:43:17.580 that's the message there

01:43:19.320 I would say too

01:43:20.780 there are a lot of

01:43:21.660 divorced people

01:43:22.180 I'm married to someone

01:43:23.600 for whom our marriage

01:43:25.100 is not their first

01:43:25.860 and it is true

01:43:27.220 that Jesus says

01:43:27.980 that if you

01:43:28.420 the New Testament

01:43:29.460 holds that if you remarry

01:43:30.680 you make of your spouse

01:43:31.900 an adulterer

01:43:32.880 Jesus also says

01:43:34.640 that if you lust

01:43:35.340 you're an adulterer

01:43:36.080 not you're on the path

01:43:37.400 to adultery

01:43:38.060 not you're kind of

01:43:39.060 like an adulterer

01:43:39.840 I mean really

01:43:40.400 if you think about it

01:43:41.320 Jesus wasn't smoking pot

01:43:42.600 and they're like

01:43:42.900 oh it is kind of like that

01:43:44.320 Jesus made a lot

01:43:47.100 of very absolute statements

01:43:48.420 about the nature of morality

01:43:49.400 so that people

01:43:49.940 would understand

01:43:50.520 the absolute nature

01:43:51.480 of their state

01:43:53.640 and depravity

01:43:54.280 and one of the things

01:43:55.820 that bothers me

01:43:56.540 you'll hear evangelicals

01:43:58.500 of a certain stripe

01:43:59.400 sometimes say

01:44:00.120 oh you married

01:44:01.780 a divorced person

01:44:02.880 well you know

01:44:03.880 that in God's eyes

01:44:05.260 they're still married

01:44:06.260 to their first spouse

01:44:07.840 and I'm like

01:44:08.220 when did God

01:44:09.440 become an idiot

01:44:10.020 like that is

01:44:11.880 obviously not true

01:44:13.560 and if it were true

01:44:14.660 imagine what the morality

01:44:15.740 of it would be

01:44:16.580 over time

01:44:17.520 so let's say

01:44:18.800 you got married

01:44:19.700 when you were 18

01:44:20.480 you got divorced

01:44:21.320 when you were 22

01:44:22.280 you got remarried

01:44:23.600 when you were 30

01:44:24.380 you had four kids

01:44:26.260 now you're

01:44:27.360 pushing 50

01:44:28.540 and some evangelical

01:44:29.720 gets a hold of you

01:44:30.420 and says

01:44:30.640 well you know

01:44:30.940 in God's eyes

01:44:31.740 you're still married

01:44:32.320 to your first spouse

01:44:33.060 and you go

01:44:33.740 well holy crap

01:44:34.460 I don't want to

01:44:34.900 disappoint God

01:44:35.700 so you walk away

01:44:36.680 from the four kids

01:44:37.400 and you walk away

01:44:38.240 from the current husband

01:44:39.200 and you go find

01:44:40.380 I guess

01:44:40.800 some person

01:44:41.380 that you used to know

01:44:42.120 20 years ago

01:44:42.900 and see if maybe

01:44:43.880 they also believe

01:44:44.920 that you're still married

01:44:45.660 and you knock

01:44:46.600 on their door

01:44:47.200 and you're like

01:44:47.500 hey we're still married

01:44:48.200 and they're like

01:44:48.540 what the

01:44:49.160 God's not dumb

01:44:50.540 God

01:44:51.400 doesn't function

01:44:54.520 outside of reality

01:44:55.980 right

01:44:56.300 God isn't the

01:44:57.000 hypothetical God

01:44:58.100 God is the God

01:44:58.980 who is

01:44:59.440 and

01:45:00.740 while

01:45:02.500 divorce is

01:45:03.720 a terrible

01:45:04.420 terrible thing

01:45:05.100 is

01:45:06.180 is absolutely

01:45:07.480 a destruction

01:45:08.260 of

01:45:08.840 the great analogy

01:45:10.140 according to Paul

01:45:10.940 that God gave us

01:45:11.820 for our relationship

01:45:12.560 with him

01:45:13.040 is our relationship

01:45:14.440 between husband

01:45:15.060 and wife

01:45:15.540 in marriage

01:45:17.000 as in all things

01:45:18.340 God's a God

01:45:19.520 of grace

01:45:19.980 as well

01:45:20.500 and a God

01:45:20.920 who functions

01:45:21.340 within reality

01:45:22.100 a God

01:45:22.780 who actually

01:45:23.380 does know

01:45:23.880 what we are

01:45:24.340 I'm not saying

01:45:25.200 that if you remarry

01:45:25.940 you don't make

01:45:26.540 of your spouse

01:45:27.500 an adulterer

01:45:28.120 I'm saying

01:45:28.880 that the actual

01:45:29.520 takeaway from

01:45:30.400 the teachings

01:45:31.180 of Christ

01:45:31.620 is supposed to be

01:45:32.400 I'm an adulterer

01:45:33.860 not

01:45:34.200 how could I

01:45:35.120 possibly not

01:45:35.840 be an adulterer

01:45:36.320 no I agree

01:45:36.860 with this

01:45:37.120 because what

01:45:37.540 Jesus says

01:45:38.140 is Moses

01:45:38.820 gave you a law

01:45:39.620 by which you

01:45:40.080 could get divorced

01:45:40.680 because he knew

01:45:41.240 your hearts

01:45:41.840 he knew

01:45:43.240 he knew

01:45:43.680 but from the beginning

01:45:45.160 divorce is a thing

01:45:46.300 in Judaism

01:45:46.680 I mean we are

01:45:48.000 anti-divorce

01:45:48.520 but it is a possibility

01:45:49.220 and I think

01:45:49.980 I think you're

01:45:51.160 absolutely right

01:45:51.860 we're not supposed

01:45:52.380 to live

01:45:52.860 in this savage way

01:45:54.080 where people get

01:45:54.700 stuck in a

01:45:55.940 I know

01:45:56.620 I know a lot

01:45:57.220 of people

01:45:57.480 who got divorced

01:45:58.120 like minutes

01:45:58.860 after they got

01:45:59.360 married

01:45:59.620 like you know

01:46:00.100 within months

01:46:00.520 and then got

01:46:01.140 a very happy

01:46:01.740 second marriage

01:46:02.280 I definitely think

01:46:03.820 that's a very

01:46:04.260 different thing

01:46:04.860 but it really

01:46:06.060 is a serious

01:46:06.960 business

01:46:07.440 to tear apart

01:46:09.320 what God

01:46:10.420 has brought

01:46:10.860 no question

01:46:11.600 I'm not making

01:46:12.100 any defensive

01:46:12.700 divorce

01:46:13.000 that's why

01:46:13.760 I think

01:46:14.220 the Catholic

01:46:14.880 Church

01:46:15.100 the concept

01:46:15.860 of annulment

01:46:16.480 which is

01:46:17.980 the idea

01:46:19.200 there is

01:46:19.840 it's also

01:46:21.240 not like

01:46:21.600 you're going

01:46:21.780 to get stuck

01:46:22.200 on a technicality

01:46:23.020 because God

01:46:23.440 is not going

01:46:23.760 to do that

01:46:24.020 so just because

01:46:24.620 you said

01:46:25.280 the words

01:46:25.660 it's not like

01:46:26.080 God is saying

01:46:26.600 well you're stuck

01:46:27.260 but there's

01:46:28.660 an investigation

01:46:29.300 to find out

01:46:30.460 so you could

01:46:31.860 have a situation

01:46:32.900 where you get

01:46:33.640 married

01:46:33.940 and you get

01:46:34.240 divorced

01:46:34.600 right away

01:46:35.220 it's obviously

01:46:35.940 you weren't

01:46:37.660 serious about

01:46:38.220 the vows

01:46:38.660 and in that

01:46:39.040 case

01:46:39.300 then it wasn't

01:46:39.860 the marriage

01:46:40.380 just never

01:46:40.840 occurred

01:46:41.180 you know

01:46:41.480 you go to

01:46:41.900 Las Vegas

01:46:42.540 or something

01:46:42.940 and get married

01:46:43.460 when you're drunk

01:46:44.300 you drink a giant

01:46:45.780 one of these

01:46:46.620 full of booze

01:46:47.520 but there's also

01:46:48.680 no question

01:46:49.120 that I would

01:46:49.680 assume in the

01:46:50.060 Catholic view

01:46:50.840 that that is

01:46:51.660 innately connected

01:46:52.580 because when you're

01:46:53.720 talking about

01:46:53.920 annulment

01:46:54.220 you're talking

01:46:54.620 about sexual

01:46:55.060 activity also

01:46:55.600 that's innately

01:46:56.040 connected to the

01:46:56.620 possibility of

01:46:57.220 bearing children

01:46:57.700 I mean the real

01:46:58.880 shift that has

01:46:59.420 happened in

01:46:59.740 Western culture

01:47:00.240 is the disconnection

01:47:01.100 of marriage

01:47:01.420 from childbearing

01:47:02.100 and it used to

01:47:03.500 be that the

01:47:04.320 I mean a

01:47:05.500 plurality of

01:47:06.220 people who got

01:47:06.700 married

01:47:07.040 the woman was

01:47:07.940 pregnant when they

01:47:08.440 got married

01:47:08.840 and this was

01:47:09.880 as late as the

01:47:11.280 1930s and 1940s

01:47:12.440 a huge number

01:47:14.000 of people

01:47:14.480 the majority

01:47:15.020 was it the

01:47:15.780 majority

01:47:16.040 it was either

01:47:16.640 the plurality

01:47:17.680 or the majority

01:47:18.080 a huge percentage

01:47:19.020 of people

01:47:19.440 were having

01:47:20.140 seven month

01:47:21.040 babies

01:47:21.340 right

01:47:22.040 because

01:47:22.440 people were

01:47:23.640 not

01:47:23.760 but the expectation

01:47:24.740 was

01:47:25.280 you know

01:47:26.100 you do the

01:47:27.420 crime

01:47:27.600 you do the

01:47:27.880 time

01:47:28.080 because

01:47:29.720 it's not

01:47:30.480 about you

01:47:31.120 it's not

01:47:31.800 about you

01:47:32.120 if marriage

01:47:32.440 is about

01:47:32.780 you

01:47:33.040 then you

01:47:33.700 ought not

01:47:34.020 get married

01:47:34.400 really

01:47:34.820 and this

01:47:35.060 is true

01:47:35.260 with your

01:47:35.460 spouse

01:47:35.700 it's true

01:47:35.980 with your

01:47:36.160 children

01:47:36.420 it's true

01:47:36.760 with your

01:47:36.960 God

01:47:37.280 if marriage

01:47:38.780 is about

01:47:39.160 you finding

01:47:40.140 a way to

01:47:40.580 personally

01:47:41.040 satisfy

01:47:41.680 yourself

01:47:42.240 then don't

01:47:43.560 get married

01:47:43.900 because honestly

01:47:44.360 marriage isn't

01:47:44.740 going to do

01:47:45.000 that for you

01:47:45.440 marriage is

01:47:45.800 not about

01:47:46.100 personal

01:47:46.420 satisfaction

01:47:46.960 marriage is

01:47:47.640 about

01:47:47.880 you becoming

01:47:49.280 a better

01:47:49.660 human being

01:47:50.200 that's what

01:47:50.780 marriage does

01:47:51.240 for you

01:47:51.540 the same way

01:47:52.140 that's what

01:47:52.680 religion is

01:47:53.120 supposed to

01:47:53.500 do for you

01:47:53.860 that's why

01:47:54.140 when people

01:47:54.440 look at

01:47:58.080 God really

01:47:59.880 doesn't

01:48:00.100 either

01:48:00.220 because God

01:48:00.640 has a bunch

01:48:01.080 of things

01:48:01.440 you are

01:48:01.720 supposed to

01:48:02.100 do that

01:48:02.320 he expects

01:48:02.800 of you

01:48:03.120 and that

01:48:03.640 are duties

01:48:04.080 your spiritual

01:48:04.960 fulfillment

01:48:05.280 is last

01:48:05.820 on his

01:48:06.100 list

01:48:06.360 yeah

01:48:06.560 Job wasn't

01:48:07.440 particularly

01:48:07.980 spiritually

01:48:08.700 satisfied

01:48:09.040 by the way

01:48:09.880 I mean

01:48:11.000 you know

01:48:11.520 Jesus better

01:48:11.960 than I do

01:48:12.260 but it doesn't

01:48:12.560 look like

01:48:12.920 if he were

01:48:13.660 a human

01:48:13.980 it would have

01:48:14.300 been a

01:48:14.520 particularly

01:48:14.800 satisfying

01:48:15.300 life

01:48:15.800 right

01:48:16.420 and if you

01:48:16.800 look at

01:48:17.020 Moses

01:48:17.600 Moses has

01:48:18.080 a pretty

01:48:18.300 miserable

01:48:18.620 life

01:48:19.000 and Moses

01:48:19.740 gets crapped

01:48:20.420 on by fate

01:48:21.080 one million

01:48:21.940 times

01:48:22.300 then dies

01:48:22.780 right before

01:48:23.280 he enters

01:48:23.760 the land

01:48:24.160 of Israel

01:48:24.480 so he never

01:48:24.840 even gets

01:48:25.120 to achieve

01:48:25.500 his lifelong

01:48:26.040 dream

01:48:26.400 he doesn't

01:48:26.860 even get

01:48:27.040 to pass

01:48:27.340 on the

01:48:27.560 leadership

01:48:27.740 to his

01:48:28.060 son

01:48:28.240 God says

01:48:28.580 pass it

01:48:28.880 on to

01:48:29.060 Joshua

01:48:29.380 you don't

01:48:29.680 get to

01:48:29.880 pass it

01:48:30.140 on to

01:48:30.340 your own

01:48:30.600 kids

01:48:30.820 these are

01:48:31.480 people who

01:48:31.860 live

01:48:32.040 I mean

01:48:32.460 David

01:48:32.840 fights civil

01:48:33.780 wars

01:48:34.140 with his

01:48:34.520 own

01:48:34.700 children

01:48:35.040 these are

01:48:35.620 people who

01:48:35.940 live hard

01:48:36.540 terrible

01:48:37.480 difficult

01:48:38.140 lives

01:48:38.440 because God

01:48:38.840 is the

01:48:39.080 God of

01:48:39.320 reality

01:48:39.700 this is

01:48:40.160 right

01:48:40.320 but he's

01:48:40.680 also

01:48:40.940 I have

01:48:41.760 to inject

01:48:42.120 this

01:48:42.340 I hate

01:48:42.620 to do

01:48:42.860 it

01:48:42.960 but he's

01:48:43.280 also

01:48:43.460 the God

01:48:43.760 of joy

01:48:44.180 and all

01:48:44.680 the things

01:48:45.060 you're

01:48:45.220 talking

01:48:45.440 about

01:48:45.740 actually

01:48:46.300 are a

01:48:46.740 great

01:48:46.940 joy

01:48:47.300 maybe

01:48:47.580 at a

01:48:47.860 different

01:48:48.080 level

01:48:48.400 than

01:48:49.020 picking

01:48:49.460 up a

01:48:49.720 girl

01:48:49.900 in a

01:48:50.160 bar

01:48:51.440 and going

01:48:51.780 home

01:48:51.980 with her

01:48:52.240 which can

01:48:52.820 be a

01:48:53.300 pleasure

01:48:53.640 but

01:48:54.420 the joy

01:48:55.340 is in

01:48:56.680 you

01:48:56.840 reshifting

01:48:57.420 your mind

01:48:57.740 to meet

01:48:58.020 him

01:48:58.240 not him

01:48:58.620 reshifting

01:48:59.020 reality

01:48:59.340 but that's

01:49:00.180 it

01:49:00.300 he rewards

01:49:01.440 you for

01:49:01.780 that

01:49:01.920 with joy

01:49:02.400 and I

01:49:02.680 think

01:49:02.820 even

01:49:03.100 people

01:49:03.500 like

01:49:04.000 Moses

01:49:04.340 like

01:49:04.620 Jesus

01:49:04.920 who

01:49:05.160 live

01:49:05.340 these

01:49:05.540 lives

01:49:06.240 of great

01:49:07.240 tragedy

01:49:07.700 and great

01:49:08.100 difficulty

01:49:08.540 there is

01:49:09.240 some kind

01:49:09.700 of

01:49:10.000 transcendent

01:49:10.900 feeling

01:49:11.240 when you

01:49:12.000 have met

01:49:12.620 your God

01:49:13.120 it

01:49:13.540 it talks

01:49:14.460 about

01:49:14.620 Moses

01:49:14.840 face

01:49:15.260 shining

01:49:15.660 so strongly

01:49:16.240 he has to

01:49:16.520 put on a

01:49:16.800 mask

01:49:16.980 when he

01:49:17.200 comes off

01:49:17.580 of Mount

01:49:17.840 Sinai

01:49:18.120 because the

01:49:18.560 idea is

01:49:18.880 that when

01:49:19.140 you have

01:49:19.380 aligned

01:49:19.780 this is the

01:49:20.460 natural law

01:49:20.940 of you

01:49:21.080 in Catholicism

01:49:21.640 when you've

01:49:21.940 aligned

01:49:22.240 yourself

01:49:22.740 with nature

01:49:25.040 as God

01:49:25.440 when you've

01:49:25.760 aligned

01:49:26.000 yourself

01:49:26.340 with the

01:49:27.180 God

01:49:27.380 who created

01:49:27.820 you

01:49:27.980 created

01:49:28.300 the cosmos

01:49:28.760 created

01:49:29.320 this entire

01:49:29.800 system

01:49:30.180 then that's

01:49:31.400 what's supposed

01:49:31.780 to give you

01:49:32.120 purpose

01:49:32.340 that's what's

01:49:32.740 supposed to

01:49:33.060 give you

01:49:33.280 meaning

01:49:33.520 and when you

01:49:34.060 disconnect

01:49:34.360 all that

01:49:34.740 stuff

01:49:34.920 and then

01:49:35.100 you demand

01:49:35.640 of reality

01:49:36.200 that reality

01:49:36.780 change

01:49:37.300 to fit

01:49:37.680 you

01:49:37.900 then you

01:49:39.100 are declaring

01:49:40.920 war

01:49:41.440 on the only

01:49:42.220 thing that

01:49:42.520 can make

01:49:42.800 you happy

01:49:43.180 because God

01:49:43.640 is the

01:49:43.980 God of

01:49:44.260 reality

01:49:44.620 and when

01:49:45.160 you love

01:49:45.840 him

01:49:46.060 suddenly

01:49:46.620 reality

01:49:47.040 makes a

01:49:47.560 whole bunch

01:49:48.040 of sense

01:49:48.380 it always gets

01:49:50.120 me when

01:49:50.380 somebody says

01:49:50.940 my wife

01:49:52.760 died in a

01:49:53.220 plane crash

01:49:53.640 and now

01:49:53.840 I've lost

01:49:54.160 my faith

01:49:54.600 and I

01:49:54.800 thought

01:49:54.980 why didn't

01:49:55.400 you lose

01:49:55.640 your faith

01:49:55.880 when somebody

01:49:56.200 else's wife

01:49:56.700 died

01:49:56.880 because that

01:49:57.960 is the

01:49:58.260 world

01:49:58.540 I think

01:49:59.360 one of the

01:49:59.980 great

01:50:00.340 messages

01:50:00.640 of the

01:50:01.140 Bible

01:50:01.460 Old and

01:50:01.800 New

01:50:01.940 Testament

01:50:02.260 is to

01:50:03.960 find joy

01:50:04.640 through

01:50:05.460 suffering

01:50:05.940 rather than

01:50:06.520 in modern

01:50:07.600 times we

01:50:07.960 find joy

01:50:08.620 we try to

01:50:09.160 find it

01:50:09.420 by getting

01:50:09.840 around

01:50:10.160 suffering

01:50:10.620 and it's

01:50:12.340 just not

01:50:12.680 out there

01:50:13.080 you've

01:50:13.300 got to

01:50:13.500 go through

01:50:13.860 it

01:50:14.120 but that

01:50:16.200 takes

01:50:16.420 patience

01:50:16.840 well this

01:50:17.480 is why

01:50:17.760 the entire

01:50:18.340 question

01:50:18.680 when people

01:50:19.020 say

01:50:19.200 how can

01:50:20.080 you

01:50:20.260 rectify

01:50:20.960 the idea

01:50:21.280 of a

01:50:21.460 good

01:50:21.620 God

01:50:21.880 with

01:50:22.040 suffering

01:50:22.820 in the

01:50:23.140 real

01:50:23.280 world

01:50:23.520 is because

01:50:24.380 God's

01:50:25.520 idea of

01:50:26.620 good

01:50:26.800 is not

01:50:27.060 your idea

01:50:27.560 of good

01:50:27.900 you are

01:50:28.260 not God

01:50:28.800 and this

01:50:29.120 whole idea

01:50:29.520 where God

01:50:29.900 is supposed

01:50:30.220 to conform

01:50:30.760 to your

01:50:31.160 idea of

01:50:31.700 what's right

01:50:32.000 and good

01:50:32.260 you don't

01:50:33.040 even know

01:50:33.380 as much

01:50:33.740 as the

01:50:34.040 basic

01:50:35.280 conglomeration

01:50:36.480 of humanity

01:50:36.920 that sets

01:50:37.260 the price

01:50:37.640 of a pencil

01:50:38.100 why do you

01:50:39.040 think that

01:50:39.300 you know

01:50:39.660 as much

01:50:40.460 as God

01:50:40.760 by the way

01:50:41.160 you're not

01:50:41.660 God is

01:50:42.120 God

01:50:42.380 you're not

01:50:42.760 God

01:50:43.080 is almost

01:50:43.840 the entirety

01:50:44.520 of the

01:50:44.840 gospel

01:50:45.100 I'm always

01:50:46.340 trying to

01:50:46.540 think

01:50:46.640 how can

01:50:47.700 you get

01:50:47.880 the gospel

01:50:48.460 down to

01:50:48.800 its simplest

01:50:49.340 form

01:50:49.780 the way

01:50:50.220 they always

01:50:50.540 put it

01:50:50.840 God is

01:50:51.140 not a

01:50:51.360 gumball

01:50:51.620 machine

01:50:51.940 people

01:50:52.480 expect

01:50:52.780 God

01:50:53.000 to be

01:50:53.160 a

01:50:53.240 gumball

01:50:53.480 machine

01:50:53.640 if I

01:50:53.880 do

01:50:54.000 X

01:50:54.180 Y

01:50:54.320 and Z

01:50:54.520 then I

01:50:54.780 will

01:50:54.900 get X

01:50:55.320 or

01:51:02.260 how this

01:51:02.480 works

01:51:02.720 so

01:51:03.180 if you

01:51:03.960 are 18

01:51:04.440 and you

01:51:04.780 are

01:51:04.920 contemplating

01:51:05.580 getting

01:51:06.500 married

01:51:06.780 I do

01:51:07.160 have a

01:51:07.720 patented

01:51:08.260 piece

01:51:08.740 of marriage

01:51:09.340 advice

01:51:09.700 I have

01:51:10.660 several

01:51:11.040 one is

01:51:11.540 two bathrooms

01:51:12.100 and a

01:51:12.340 king size

01:51:12.660 bed

01:51:12.900 I promise

01:51:14.300 you can't

01:51:14.540 go wrong

01:51:14.840 but you

01:51:15.160 may say

01:51:15.500 but Jeremy

01:51:16.120 I can't

01:51:17.640 afford

01:51:18.020 a king

01:51:19.000 size

01:51:19.200 bed

01:51:19.360 or I

01:51:19.540 can't

01:51:19.720 afford

01:51:19.920 get married

01:51:20.800 anyway

01:51:21.060 but this

01:51:21.460 is really

01:51:21.840 good advice

01:51:22.900 and no one

01:51:23.940 will tell

01:51:24.220 you this

01:51:24.580 go to bed

01:51:25.480 angry

01:51:25.760 this is my

01:51:26.800 great

01:51:27.760 marriage

01:51:28.560 advice

01:51:28.900 it's not

01:51:29.660 great marriage

01:51:30.340 advice

01:51:30.680 day to day

01:51:31.180 people will

01:51:31.600 tell you

01:51:31.860 never

01:51:32.160 go to bed

01:51:32.620 angry

01:51:32.880 and that's

01:51:33.500 fine advice

01:51:34.240 if you

01:51:34.760 lose

01:51:35.020 the never

01:51:35.420 what they

01:51:35.980 should say

01:51:36.420 is do

01:51:36.740 everything

01:51:37.020 you can

01:51:37.620 not to

01:51:38.240 go to bed

01:51:38.660 angry

01:51:38.960 but in

01:51:39.520 the final

01:51:40.040 analysis

01:51:40.520 sometimes

01:51:41.160 when you

01:51:41.460 try to

01:51:41.760 navigate

01:51:42.080 life

01:51:42.580 with another

01:51:43.340 human being

01:51:43.940 who is in

01:51:44.340 every way

01:51:44.900 different than

01:51:45.380 you

01:51:45.580 where you

01:51:46.080 can't even

01:51:46.680 agree on

01:51:47.320 the things

01:51:47.620 that you

01:51:47.840 think you

01:51:48.200 agree about

01:51:48.720 because you're

01:51:49.780 actually using

01:51:50.340 the same

01:51:50.660 words to mean

01:51:51.100 different things

01:51:51.660 you won't

01:51:51.940 figure it out

01:51:52.320 for 10

01:51:52.560 more years

01:51:52.920 when you're

01:51:54.140 in that

01:51:54.420 situation

01:51:54.820 you do

01:51:55.540 occasionally

01:51:56.180 come to

01:51:57.200 moments that

01:51:57.720 you simply

01:51:58.360 cannot resolve

01:51:59.800 in the

01:52:00.260 moment

01:52:00.540 and you're

01:52:01.400 in a

01:52:01.620 you sit

01:52:02.940 in that

01:52:03.180 moment of

01:52:03.560 complete

01:52:03.980 desperation

01:52:04.540 you do

01:52:05.360 not know

01:52:05.860 how to

01:52:06.140 reconcile

01:52:06.460 yourself

01:52:06.940 to your

01:52:07.220 spouse

01:52:07.500 and the

01:52:08.040 best thing

01:52:08.440 you can

01:52:08.680 do in

01:52:09.000 that

01:52:09.200 moment

01:52:09.540 go to

01:52:10.080 bed

01:52:10.260 and what

01:52:11.580 I mean

01:52:11.860 is go

01:52:12.600 to bed

01:52:12.880 literally

01:52:13.220 because you

01:52:14.240 will wake

01:52:14.560 up in the

01:52:14.880 morning

01:52:15.120 and you

01:52:15.880 will still

01:52:16.200 be married

01:52:16.660 the beauty

01:52:17.520 of marriage

01:52:18.080 is that

01:52:18.420 marriage

01:52:18.780 is you

01:52:19.820 don't have

01:52:20.280 to you

01:52:20.780 don't have

01:52:21.180 to create

01:52:21.900 marriage

01:52:22.560 on a daily

01:52:23.100 basis

01:52:23.480 marriage

01:52:24.160 will carry

01:52:24.840 you through

01:52:25.500 these problems

01:52:26.440 if you lean

01:52:27.040 on it as

01:52:27.460 an institution

01:52:28.020 given to you

01:52:28.920 by God

01:52:29.460 the only

01:52:30.320 thing you

01:52:30.700 can do

01:52:31.160 is break

01:52:32.000 your marriage

01:52:32.580 so if you

01:52:34.200 reach the

01:52:34.600 moment of

01:52:35.440 sort of

01:52:36.000 irreconcilable

01:52:37.240 conflict

01:52:37.940 stop trying

01:52:39.340 to reconcile

01:52:39.840 it and just

01:52:40.920 lean into

01:52:41.700 the reality

01:52:42.200 of your

01:52:42.680 marriage

01:52:43.000 lean into

01:52:43.500 the fact

01:52:43.820 that tomorrow

01:52:44.540 you will

01:52:44.880 still be

01:52:45.240 married

01:52:45.520 as long

01:52:46.040 as you

01:52:46.220 don't do

01:52:46.520 anything

01:52:46.760 stupid

01:52:47.160 like stop

01:52:47.720 being married

01:52:48.240 which has

01:52:48.780 been statistically

01:52:49.700 the cause

01:52:50.440 of 100%

01:52:51.440 of all

01:52:52.220 divorces

01:52:52.740 Elisha we

01:52:53.680 have one

01:52:54.160 last question

01:52:54.940 for the group

01:52:55.720 for the night

01:52:56.460 final question

01:52:57.400 of the night

01:52:57.800 is I think

01:52:58.300 a question

01:52:58.860 that is on

01:52:59.260 all of our

01:52:59.860 viewers minds

01:53:00.640 Michael do

01:53:01.700 you only

01:53:02.300 gym tan

01:53:02.940 laundry

01:53:03.380 everything else

01:53:04.500 on your body

01:53:05.260 besides your

01:53:06.320 legs and why

01:53:07.300 are they so

01:53:07.920 pale and why

01:53:09.360 is the control

01:53:10.060 room showing

01:53:10.680 them to me

01:53:11.240 again

01:53:11.460 I'll give you

01:53:13.120 the real reason

01:53:13.720 I can't handle

01:53:14.560 this I'm so

01:53:15.420 triggered this is

01:53:16.260 like sexual

01:53:16.780 harassment

01:53:17.280 I'm over this

01:53:18.300 I'm done

01:53:19.400 she's gone

01:53:19.960 she's out of

01:53:20.860 here

01:53:21.040 no wait

01:53:21.660 please don't

01:53:22.320 go

01:53:22.600 the real

01:53:25.220 answer for

01:53:25.740 this is

01:53:26.380 men should

01:53:27.700 not wear

01:53:28.160 shorts

01:53:28.560 I am doing

01:53:29.860 it for you

01:53:30.560 people

01:53:30.960 all right

01:53:31.440 this is the

01:53:32.260 spring break

01:53:32.760 edition

01:53:33.140 and you're

01:53:33.760 going to see

01:53:34.240 the only part

01:53:35.200 of my body

01:53:35.760 that is a

01:53:36.220 little more

01:53:36.620 on the white

01:53:37.100 side

01:53:37.340 this is the

01:53:37.760 white supremacy

01:53:38.340 of my body

01:53:39.000 right now

01:53:39.360 it's really

01:53:40.960 nice

01:53:41.600 you know

01:53:42.100 but really

01:53:42.800 this is the

01:53:43.560 problem

01:53:43.780 Tony Soprano

01:53:45.200 I think

01:53:45.540 said it

01:53:45.960 in the

01:53:46.880 Sopranos

01:53:47.360 he said

01:53:47.760 a Don

01:53:49.200 is not

01:53:49.540 supposed to

01:53:49.940 wear shorts

01:53:50.380 it's not

01:53:50.740 a good look

01:53:51.180 it's for

01:53:51.440 little boys

01:53:52.120 for grown

01:53:53.000 men

01:53:53.240 not a good

01:53:53.760 look

01:53:53.940 thank you

01:53:54.660 very much

01:53:55.080 for joining

01:53:55.440 us on

01:53:56.200 this

01:53:56.540 I think

01:53:57.220 rousing

01:53:57.780 edition

01:53:58.220 of the

01:53:59.560 Daily Wire

01:54:00.140 backstage

01:54:00.500 I want to

01:54:00.840 especially

01:54:01.080 thank Matt

01:54:01.840 Walsh and

01:54:02.300 all the people

01:54:02.760 who subscribed

01:54:03.240 during the

01:54:03.680 broadcast today

01:54:04.440 we're going to

01:54:05.120 be drawing a

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01:54:06.260 for someone

01:54:06.680 to win a

01:54:07.040 chance to

01:54:07.320 come out

01:54:07.560 here and

01:54:08.220 see us

01:54:08.620 thank you

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01:54:09.240 of our

01:54:09.480 subscribers

01:54:09.960 even the

01:54:10.600 ones who

01:54:10.840 didn't sign

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01:54:12.640 Michael

01:54:13.440 Knowles in

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 28, 2019

Daily Wire Backstage： Spring Break Special

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