The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 179 - The Third American Revolution

00:00:00.000 Crazy ladies climbing the Statue of Liberty, Facebook categorizing the Declaration of

00:00:04.980 Independence as hate speech, Democrats decrying the Fourth of July, and a record low in American

00:00:10.640 pride. Some catastrophizers say we're on the verge of a second civil war. In reality, we're on the

00:00:15.980 precipice of a third American revolution, and the court is the key. St. Teresa of Calcutta will

00:00:21.760 weigh in. Then, the final part of my interview with North Korean defector and all-around hero

00:00:26.920 Ji Sung-ho. Finally, the mailbag. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:36.680 Really, really good. So, how was your 4th of July? Was it good? I had a very good 4th of July.

00:03:42.360 Obviously, I was playing It's a Grand Old Flag, marching around my apartment with sweet little

00:03:45.440 Elisa. And then, you know, I saw some fireworks. I don't know, hung out with some pals. Ate some

00:03:50.820 Omaha Steak Burgers. That was delicious. Went over, you know, had a couple drinks, saw some fireworks.

00:03:57.160 I suspect you had a similar 4th of July. How did the left spend the 4th of July?

00:04:02.420 We actually have video.

00:04:11.100 For those of you who don't subscribe, this is why you have to subscribe. That was a video of a high

00:04:31.980 school kid running into doorways and banging his head against the wall. Plus, obviously, that wonderful

00:04:37.980 girl dubbed by the internet as Tickly Puff screaming. That is how the left spent their 4th of July. I mean,

00:04:42.980 it was really, really insane. They lost their minds. Crazy ladies climbing up the Statue of Liberty.

00:04:47.760 Even the Democrat Party issuing this crazy announcement. All of this does have you realize

00:04:53.040 at least half the country is unhinged. They are really starting to lose it. And you hear all this talk

00:04:57.780 about, is there going to be a civil war? Is there going to be a civil war? I don't think so. But I do

00:05:01.320 think we're on the verge of the third American revolution. We'll get into that a little bit more

00:05:05.520 later on. Let's start with the crazy lady who climbed the Statue of Liberty. So this is the new

00:05:12.420 campaign slogan for Democrats. She wore a t-shirt and it said, abolish ICE. Abolish Immigration and

00:05:18.340 Customs Enforcement. This is their new slogan going into 2018. It's not just the crazies who climbed the

00:05:23.180 Statue of Liberty. It's even US senators who are stating this. So she goes up, she climbs the

00:05:28.520 Statue of Liberty. They have to evacuate Liberty Island. You know, she's up there for like two

00:05:31.820 hours. You know, by the way, that this woman is not a New Yorker because New Yorkers never go to

00:05:36.380 the Statue of Liberty. I lived in New York like all of my life, never once went to the Statue of

00:05:40.400 Liberty. So she, I don't know, they bust them in just like the progressives always do. They bust in

00:05:44.600 some activists, shut it down for everybody who was trying to have a nice 4th of July. And climbing,

00:05:49.960 waits two hours all day screaming about how we're separating families at the border. You know,

00:05:55.620 that old Obama, that old Clinton policy of, you know, you have to detain the criminals and you

00:06:00.760 can't throw children in jail. So she's screaming a whole hullabaloo about this. Then meanwhile,

00:06:06.680 in San Antonio, a grown man went up to a kid who was just wearing his MAGA hat, his Make America

00:06:12.760 Great Again hat. He so objected to that phrase, Make America Great Again, he goes up, rips the hat off

00:06:17.540 the kid. It actually like pulled off some hair with it, too. Start screaming in his face,

00:06:21.000 steals his hat. I think we have a video of that. Here is this crazy guy in San Antonio.

00:06:27.940 Right now, police are looking for that man who was caught on tape on camera,

00:06:34.900 throwing a drink at a teenager in that video, the man in the red hat, and walks off with the

00:06:39.140 teenager's hat, pulled it off so aggressively. He also pulled out some hair with it.

00:06:43.460 Like, I didn't think he was going to generate that amount, like, the amount of, like, what

00:06:47.260 people were doing. Like, I was looking at the comments and some people were like,

00:06:50.560 oh yeah, like, this is uncalled for. And then people were like, you know, just

00:06:53.620 mixed opinions. But I didn't think it would blow up to what it is right now.

00:06:58.220 By the way, listen, this kid is great. He's wearing an American flag bandana. You know,

00:07:02.300 he's got braces. He's in high school, I assume. And he says, well, when I posted that video to try

00:07:08.160 to find the guy who threw a drink in my face, ripped off, stole my hat, all this. When I posted

00:07:12.980 it, you know, a lot of people were supportive. And then there were some mixed reactions. Mixed

00:07:19.140 reactions are those lefties who are like, yeah, that's good. He should have ripped your head off.

00:07:22.860 You know, it's all that craziness and all that calls for violence coming out of the left.

00:07:27.220 The left has been calling for violence now pretty explicitly for several weeks. And look at the

00:07:31.840 juxtaposition. You got this kid smiling, braces, American flag, bandana, you know, just all

00:07:38.020 around high school kid. And then this crazy adult leftist, this probably unshowered, you know,

00:07:43.860 hairy leftist throwing drinks in his face, ripping it off his head, stealing his property.

00:07:48.580 That those are the two sides that you get to look at right now. It's the right with the American flag

00:07:52.540 bandana and the left ripping off property, screaming, vandalizing property, climbing up the

00:07:57.400 Statue of Liberty like a crazy person. Now, you would think in the midst of all this, Democrats would

00:08:01.660 be freaking out. They'd say, oh, gosh, we were in an election year. We need to offer an

00:08:05.680 aspirational statement. We need to offer something instead of just this angry craziness and the calls

00:08:11.480 for lawlessness and open borders. That doesn't seem to play well in Peoria. So what do they do?

00:08:17.360 The exact opposite. That's what they do. Democrats issued this 4th of July statement. This is from

00:08:22.820 the DNC. They said, quote, nearly two and a half centuries ago, a band of patriots gathered in

00:08:29.900 Philadelphia to declare that all men are created equal. Our nation has changed dramatically since those

00:08:34.320 words were first written on parchment. Generations of brave Americans have fought to expand the

00:08:39.420 promise of equality for more Americans, move our country forward in its march toward a more perfect

00:08:44.040 union. As we celebrate our nation's independence, we recognize America's founding promise remains

00:08:49.480 out of reach for too many families. Too many members of our society are still struggling to find a good

00:08:54.680 paying job. Not true, by the way. We have record low unemployment. There are more jobs open than people

00:09:00.100 who are willing to fill those jobs or the health care that they need. Not true. Barack Obama stole

00:09:04.820 health care from Americans who wanted to keep their doctor. And now we've reversed that. Let Americans

00:09:08.500 have their own health care choice. They go on. Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt, Democrats. Too many

00:09:13.040 women, LGBTQ Americans. And by the way, I'm very offended on behalf of the I-L-A-P-Q-L-M-N-O-P-Z-Y-X

00:09:19.840 Americans who were not named by the Democrats, you divisive, exclusive monsters. They go on. People of

00:09:25.400 color, people with disabilities still face inequality and injustice across our society.

00:09:30.640 What's your evidence for that? No evidence, of course. But hey, they're Democrats. Who needs

00:09:33.920 evidence? Everywhere we look, our most fundamental values are under attack. What values? Liberty?

00:09:41.400 Great. More liberty than ever. Economic prosperity? Good. More prosperity than ever.

00:09:45.580 I know that one Democrat value, I think, is booing God like they did at their national convention.

00:09:50.760 But now we've got more religious liberty in this land. So you are free to boo God if you want. And

00:09:55.660 like good people and Christians are free to worship God. Thousands of Americans have been separated

00:10:01.280 from their parents at our southern border. Thousands of children have been separated from their parents.

00:10:06.260 Now, this isn't quite true. I mean, this is a policy that's gone on for a long time now. But

00:10:11.880 notice the slate of hand here. It's not American children that are being taken from their parents.

00:10:17.940 It's illegal aliens invading the country. So the American dream isn't being pulled out of reach

00:10:24.360 for Americans. It's that Americans are allowed to define their borders, to have borders, to say

00:10:29.480 who gets to come into the country, who gets to access welfare systems, who gets to participate in

00:10:34.540 labor markets, who gets to come in when there are perhaps higher risks of crime. Total slate of

00:10:39.920 hand to conflate. This is what the Democrats do, by the way. It's why they changed illegal alien

00:10:44.260 to illegal immigrant, to undocumented immigrant. Even illegal immigrant is ridiculous. There's no

00:10:51.880 illegal immigrant. To be an immigrant, you have to be accepted by the country.

00:10:56.460 Illegal alien is the term. They say, oh, you know, it's really an illegal immigrant. And there are all

00:11:00.780 sorts of immigrants. There are Italian immigrants. There are Irish immigrants. There are illegal immigrants.

00:11:06.180 You know, they're all just immigrants, aren't they? No. They go on, though. At our highest court,

00:11:11.080 workers' rights are being taken away. Not so. Workers are being given rights because now the

00:11:16.060 workers have a right to decide if they want to join that union or not join that union. Workers are

00:11:20.120 being given way more rights. Total lie. Voting rights are under assault. Not so at all. They're

00:11:26.060 referring to voter ID because Democrats usually rely on the dead and the felonious to win elections.

00:11:31.560 And now we're suggesting perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to do that. Muslim Americans are being

00:11:35.840 discriminated against for their faith. Don't see a whole lot of evidence for that. And by the way,

00:11:40.200 a huge number of hate crimes in the United States are against Jews. They don't seem to talk about

00:11:46.020 Jews. It's always because the Democrats have taken this very strong stance against Israel and in favor

00:11:52.440 of the alleged religion of peace. A woman's right to choose is under threat like never before.

00:11:58.180 A woman's right to choose to kill her baby is, of course, what they're suggesting. And this gets to

00:12:03.060 the heart of what lies before the third American revolution. We'll get to that in a bit. The Democratic

00:12:08.260 Party believes that all people are created equal no matter who they are, where they come from,

00:12:12.260 who they love, or how they pray. Unless they're Christians, in which case they can't do anything

00:12:17.560 and they have to bake the cakes and they have to arrange the flower arrangements and they need to

00:12:22.020 shut up and stop praying in schools. As we celebrate our nation's independence, Democrats reaffirm our

00:12:26.900 commitment to fighting for the values of inclusion and opportunity for everyone except for patriotic

00:12:31.440 Americans. Maybe that part was implied at the end. So they issued this very angry, negative statement.

00:12:38.320 Everything's terrible. The world's going to hell in a handbasket. And they're focusing on issues that

00:12:43.640 the American people don't want to focus on. So we know that the vast majority of Americans don't want

00:12:49.020 amnesty, don't want open borders, even for dreamers, by the way. And this is true even among Democrats.

00:12:53.800 The majority of Democrats don't want amnesty, even for dreamers. They don't think that should be a

00:12:57.740 priority for Congress. And yet the Democrats are doubling down on this. They're doubling down on

00:13:02.460 their radicalism. In part, it's because Trump has trolled them into doing this. They just, they

00:13:07.140 can't help but take the bait that he puts out there, usually on Twitter. But it's a really weird

00:13:12.440 and losing strategy. And the one day that we're supposed to all be united, the 4th of July, American

00:13:16.760 independence, go out and shoot some fireworks and stop complaining. What do they do? They complain.

00:13:21.400 Why do they complain on the 4th of July? Because they don't like America. They don't like it.

00:13:25.320 They're showing their hand. They used to say things like, you know, dissent is patriotic. So when they

00:13:30.360 would say anti-American things, they would pretend at least that we're patriotic. They're not even

00:13:34.700 doing that anymore. They're not even pretending. Their anti-Americanism is really right out in front.

00:13:40.000 They say, we don't want any borders. No, you know, America is stolen land. You had the head of the

00:13:44.420 Democrat Party, one of the heads of the Democrat Party, smiling with protesters who say that America's

00:13:49.960 stolen land. You know, that's the radicalism that we're seeing. And that radicalism, I do understand,

00:13:55.320 why some people think we're headed toward another civil war. They seem to think, you know, we're so

00:14:00.640 divided now. Both sides are so angry, or at least the left is so angry, that inevitably we're going

00:14:06.240 towards civil war. CNN, CNN, Brian Stelter, one of the best characters from CNN, you know,

00:14:14.440 he looks, I'm not going to make fun of his looks, but one could, you know, one certainly could. He was

00:14:21.220 giving a talk at the Aspen Ideas Festival, and he's there, and he says, we have a national emergency.

00:14:27.320 Right now, the Trump presidency is a national emergency. Never mind, of course, that since

00:14:32.200 President Trump was inaugurated, the Dow is up 5,000 points. Never mind that unemployment is at

00:14:38.300 record lows. Right now, 3.8 percent unemployment. For all those Americans who are seeing their wealth

00:14:42.740 increase, their freedoms increase, and their employment prospects increase, it doesn't seem like

00:14:49.060 a national emergency, but there's Brian Stelter to remind them that it is, at least in his own fantasy

00:14:54.280 world. And then to round all of that off, according to new polling, a record low percentage of Americans

00:15:01.300 are extremely proud to be an American. There is a little caveat here. 47 percent of Americans are

00:15:08.300 still extremely proud to be American, which is pretty good. You know, you have the word extremely in

00:15:14.380 there. But look, America is a country that really believes in itself. It's a country that was

00:15:18.100 founded as a project. So enthusiasm reigns. You know, you can have cynicism or kind of lethargy

00:15:25.060 or apathy in a place like France. You expect that, right? A friend like, well, qu'est-ce qu'on

00:15:29.120 pu dire? Qu'est-ce qu'on pu faire? Rien, rien. Right, but not in America. In America, you have this

00:15:34.000 enthusiasm. You say, yeah, damn right, America. F yeah, you know, like the song. I mean, it's really

00:15:39.800 put a shove a boot in different places and, you know, proud to be an American. It's a very enthusiastic

00:15:44.260 place. And 47 percent are still extremely proud. I wonder what that breakdown is on party lines,

00:15:49.980 by the way. I wonder. Do you think it's just 100, a full 100 percent of those people who say they're

00:15:55.280 extremely proud are Republicans? I might suspect so, because the Democrats have taken such an explicit

00:16:02.680 anti-American turn. That number, 47 percent, is way down. That number was 70 percent in 2003. Now,

00:16:09.320 in part of that, there was this real rallying of the American spirit after the attacks of 9-11.

00:16:14.840 And George W. Bush had great moral leadership right after that terrorist attack. It unified the

00:16:20.100 country. That number dropped. That number stabilized shortly after 9-11, or after 2003, rather. And it

00:16:27.180 stabilized, and it was pretty stable until 2013. And then it really started this decline, and it's

00:16:32.940 been declining ever since. Percentage of Americans who say that they're extremely proud to be an American.

00:16:38.080 What changed? I think in the immediate timeline, we can blame Barack Obama for this. I like to blame

00:16:46.220 Barack Obama for just about anything. But this, I think he's really culpable for. It's that second

00:16:51.040 Obama term was just so awful. You know, usually presidents in their second term moderate a little

00:16:57.220 bit. They try to unify the country. They try to have a nice legacy that can buoy them among all segments

00:17:01.940 of the American people. And Obama didn't do that. Fox.com even admits this. Fox ran a thing. He said

00:17:07.180 the ingenious Obama second term. Most presidents moderate. He didn't. He doubled down on the first

00:17:14.020 term. So you had these things like foreign policy. In foreign policy, he didn't try to moderate.

00:17:18.540 He surrendered to Iran. He surrendered to Korea. He gave them, he flew over planes full of, you know,

00:17:25.120 cases of cash and gave them a ton of American assets. He bowed down. They captured American sailors in

00:17:31.920 the Persian Gulf. He said, oh, well, please don't, don't do that again. Don't do that again. And in

00:17:36.820 Cuba, after a 50-year, 60-year embargo policy and not having normal relations with Cuba, he said, okay,

00:17:45.360 well, we'll open an embassy and we'll give you everything you want. And in return, you give us

00:17:49.420 nothing. Just do it. Do it because we hate ourselves. And then, of course, in 2015, after the

00:17:54.700 Obersfeld decision that redefined marriage to include same-sex monogamous unions, but not same-sex

00:18:01.060 polygamous unions for some reason, because Anthony Kennedy thinks very highly of himself and believes

00:18:05.540 he's a romantic poet. After that decision, what did Barack Obama do? Did he try to unite the country?

00:18:10.040 No. He painted the White House in rainbow lights. He was a huge middle finger to half of the country,

00:18:16.860 to people who didn't want the central institution of society to be radically redefined by a court,

00:18:24.020 based on nothing, based on Anthony Kennedy's romantic poetry and the alleged right to intimacy

00:18:29.780 that Kennedy found. And Scalia said, clearly there isn't a right to intimacy. And even if there were,

00:18:36.220 marriage would not expand that. Ask the nearest hippie. He just rubbed most of America's face in

00:18:43.860 this. It was such a radicalism. And the real problem with that, by the way, isn't even the question of

00:18:48.860 what one thinks about gay unions or what to call gay unions or how they should be.

00:18:54.380 Interpreted by law. The real problem was flouting the rule of law of saying, there's no, it doesn't

00:18:59.820 matter what the rule of law is. Yeah, we're going to hate, they're going to look at us with a straight

00:19:03.140 face, the Democrats, and say, yeah, I think all the founding fathers and the framers of the

00:19:06.820 constitution, they thought the constitution protected monogamous gay unions and defined

00:19:12.100 marriage that way. That's what they thought. You say, you don't, you couldn't possibly think that.

00:19:17.400 No, but no, yeah, that's what they thought. Tell me I'm wrong. And that flouting the rule of law

00:19:23.420 is the real issue. It's, it's, think of like the psychology of lines. When you're standing online

00:19:28.240 at a store and you're waiting to check out or something. And when people are online, there

00:19:32.880 have been a lot of studies about this. They don't really mind if the line is long. They don't really

00:19:36.380 mind if the line is not moving. So long as the line is fair. The minute someone cuts in line,

00:19:41.200 people lose their mind because they've broken the rules and now there is chaos. People are, you think,

00:19:46.480 I can't rely on these rules anymore. So what's going to happen? People get very agitated. People

00:19:50.820 get very anxious and people get very tense. The situation becomes very tense. That's what's

00:19:57.720 happening by flouting the rule of law. This is why when the Democrats say abolish ICE, what they're

00:20:02.420 saying is abolish law enforcement. They've been talking about this for with cops forever, you know,

00:20:06.380 abolish police departments, right? They want to abolish the rule of law. And it makes everybody very

00:20:11.720 anxious because when you don't have a rule of law, you have the rule of men and men can do whatever they

00:20:16.060 want. And if the guy that doesn't like you is in charge, then things probably aren't going to work

00:20:20.700 out very well for you unless he's bound by the rule of law. This goes back to the third American

00:20:27.120 revolution, not the civil war. We're very lazy for a civil war and there aren't equally strong sides

00:20:34.960 here. But there have been three American, there have been two American revolutions so far. The first was

00:20:39.520 the one in 1776 that began yesterday over two centuries ago. Then the second one was the civil

00:20:45.940 war. This was another American revolution. This was finishing the work of the American revolution.

00:20:51.720 That first revolution was based on natural rights. It was based on the right to life, liberty, and the

00:20:56.860 pursuit of happiness. The second American revolution was based on just that. The founding fathers,

00:21:02.120 John Adams, predicted that there would be another American revolution, that they would have to

00:21:06.080 fight another great war over the question of slavery because the premise of the United States

00:21:11.060 was not borne out with the institution of slavery in place. The founding fathers suspected this. The

00:21:17.280 framers knew that this would happen. Eventually it happened. That same issue is playing out on the

00:21:22.320 question of abortion. And the question of abortion is twofold. There's Roe v. Wade. There's the question

00:21:28.560 of actually the right to an abortion and actually killing babies. And then there's the question of who can

00:21:33.600 define that right. Is the court able to just pretend that there's some right to an abortion in the

00:21:38.140 constitution? Or if there is to be a right to an abortion, do the legislatures have to enact that

00:21:43.520 as a law because we're a republic and we have representatives to make laws for us? What is the

00:21:48.960 question? And this question of abortion is so essential. The Democrats are all losing their mind

00:21:53.440 on this court seat and over Merrick Garland and over Neil Gorsuch because Roe v. Wade is a ridiculous

00:21:59.680 decision that obviously was wrongly decided. Everybody knows this. The left knows this. They're

00:22:04.740 basically admitting it now. And they know that if an originalist or a constitutionalist or textualist

00:22:10.580 or whatever you want to call it is nominated to the court, Roe v. Wade might be imperiled. And that's

00:22:15.860 the question. They're saying this is all about this one decision. But the decision isn't just awful for

00:22:20.580 itself. It's awful also for what it says about American law and that anxiety that it brought to

00:22:25.480 American law. Here is Mother Teresa, Saint Teresa of Calcutta, explaining the merits of it itself,

00:22:32.560 the question of abortion itself. Then we'll get to it in the American system. Here's Saint Teresa.

00:22:37.000 But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion. Because Jesus said,

00:22:44.960 if you receive a little child, you receive me. So every abortion is the denial of receiving Jesus,

00:22:55.640 is the neglect of receiving Jesus. It is really a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent

00:23:07.860 child, murdered by the mother herself. And if we accept that the mother can kill even her own child,

00:23:17.300 how can we tell other people not to kill one another? By abortion, the mother does not learn

00:23:25.560 to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that

00:23:34.080 he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child. He has brought into the world that

00:23:42.100 so that father is like you put other women into the same problem. So abortion just leads to more

00:23:51.880 abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love one another,

00:23:59.740 but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace

00:24:08.980 is abortion. So true. And she said this, St. Teresa said this in 1994 at the National Prayer Breakfast.

00:24:17.760 This was major international headlines. Mother Teresa says the greatest destroyer of peace is abortion.

00:24:24.500 Seems like such a minor thing. It's such a small little being that you're snuffing out. Oh,

00:24:30.060 it's a privacy issue. But it operates on twofold. Abortion begets more abortion. And the awful

00:24:36.760 jurisprudence, the perverse jurisprudence that led to the Roe v. Wade decision begets more perverse

00:24:41.840 jurisprudence that threatens the liberty of the United States. What paved the way for the Roe v.

00:24:46.800 Wade decision was Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965, where Justice William O. Douglas found,

00:24:52.380 quote, the foregoing cases suggest that specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights have penumbras

00:24:58.140 formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance. Now,

00:25:04.520 to translate that into English, I'll tell you what he actually said. He said, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:25:09.000 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gobble to go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what

00:25:13.240 he said. It's absurd. Penumbra is like a shade, you know, a sort of shaded area, shadow that goes out

00:25:18.540 and emanations coming from those guarantees. So he's saying, yes, there's no right to an abortion

00:25:23.360 in the Constitution, but, you know, I like certain parts of the Constitution, and I like abortion,

00:25:29.740 and, you know, they're probably connected somehow. So let's say that there's a right to abortion.

00:25:33.800 And now that case, by the way, Griswold v. Connecticut was not about abortion. It was about

00:25:37.260 contraception, whether laws can ban the use of contraceptives. And they found this generalized

00:25:42.660 right to privacy, which does not exist anywhere in the Constitution. And the fact that that

00:25:48.160 decision, Roe v. Wade, remains on the book, such a monumental, such a consequential decision,

00:25:54.400 such an absurd, illogical, nonsense decision, it has led to further crazy jurisprudence. And we have

00:26:01.080 to respect it by stare decisis, some say. But some decisions are so egregious that they have to be

00:26:07.440 overturned. The abortion begets more abortion, and perversity and perverse jurisprudence begets more

00:26:14.640 perverse jurisprudence. You know, by 2015, support for the Supreme Court hit an all-time low in the

00:26:20.720 United States. Trust in the Supreme Court is an institution. Why did it hit an all-time low? Because

00:26:24.940 with those sorts of decisions, it became clear that the Supreme Court was not interpreting the law. The

00:26:30.420 Supreme Court was writing law, and writing consequential law, and pretty horrific law.

00:26:35.740 Revolutions happen because of natural rights in the United States. That's what they're about.

00:26:39.780 Thomas Jefferson said frequently, he said, from time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed

00:26:46.360 with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It's a pretty graphic image, pretty vivid image. And that

00:26:51.780 certainly was the case in the first American Revolution. It was certainly the case in the

00:26:54.880 second American Revolution. We can hope that in this third American Revolution, that I hope we

00:26:59.540 embark upon, that there will not be more blood spilled, but that the blood that has been spilled since

00:27:04.380 the Roe v. Wade decision will cease to be spilled. That that will act as enough spilled blood for that

00:27:09.660 revolution, because we're on the cusp of it. And we can either turn away from it. If President Trump

00:27:15.020 nominates some squish in the model of Justice Kennedy, we'll continue down the path of perverse

00:27:19.340 jurisprudence and the erosion of liberty and the erosion of life. And if he nominates an originalist who

00:27:24.000 is going to read the text and tell us what it means, then we might be able to recapture some of that

00:27:28.240 liberty. We might be able to protect life without which liberty and the pursuit of happiness means

00:27:32.520 nothing. We can only hope that. The Democrats are losing their mind because of this. They're

00:27:36.440 losing their mind because this tyranny is possibly going to come to an end. There was tyranny before

00:27:42.200 the first revolution. There was tyranny before the second. And there has been a tyranny of men

00:27:47.920 since this awful jurisprudence has gone into effect. We've become much more a nation of men.

00:27:53.360 Congress has abdicated its responsibility. The president leads by executive fiat. This was

00:27:58.300 most noted under Barack Obama. The Congress has abdicated its responsibility. The court rules by

00:28:04.080 fiat. The court has abandoned its loyalty to the Constitution. So it would rule as the rule of

00:28:08.900 men. There's a tyranny that's coming to an end. It's brought around a lot of leftist policy

00:28:12.820 prerogatives that might be coming to an end. They're losing their minds. It might look pretty

00:28:16.780 bad now, but it looked pretty bad in the early days of the American Revolution and the Civil War too.

00:28:21.200 It looked pretty bad. And so you say, oh, we're divisive. We hate each other. Well, let's just all calm

00:28:25.900 down. Maybe calm down. Or maybe we should try to do something here. And maybe, you know, those people

00:28:31.140 who say, calm down. President Trump, just appoint some squishy guy. Then people, no, don't pacify

00:28:36.380 them. Don't pacify them. Do the right thing. Do the right thing. And we might have a chance to keep

00:28:41.060 up American liberty and American life because it seems that we're at a turning point.

00:28:47.240 I ran a little bit late. Now I've got to bring you, speaking of life and liberty, the final part of my

00:28:52.040 interview with Ji Sung-ho, the defector and the director of the film that is now the documentary

00:28:57.240 film that is covering Ji Sung-ho's life and journey. Without further ado, Ji Sung-ho.

00:29:02.960 Hawk, thank you for coming on. Hawk Jensen, you've been a filmmaker for 19 years, journalist, writer,

00:29:09.760 producer. You've been around Hollywood. You've been around the industry, journeyman. What led you to

00:29:15.580 this story other than that it's the most inspiring story, certainly in my lifetime? What led you to

00:29:22.140 it? How did you get involved? And tell us a little bit about the project. Sure. Well, I mean, this

00:29:26.220 specific episode, we've been filming this short-form documentary for Witness Project. We've been

00:29:29.780 shooting with Ji Sung-ho. The next round of episodes we're doing for the series called Witness Project,

00:29:35.020 which is an original series put out by Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.

00:29:38.540 I'm familiar with them. Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.

00:29:41.140 Yeah. You always hear about victims of Nazism or victims of this, but for some reason,

00:29:47.320 victims of communism, even though we can see these unbelievable stories of hell on earth

00:29:53.600 to getting out and getting to freedom, for some reason, that doesn't get a lot of play in the

00:29:58.980 media. Yeah, and I got the call. So, I mean, I started a documentary film company about six

00:30:02.440 years ago because I was working mainstream here, and I was just kind of tired of the vacuous

00:30:06.440 aspect of the storytelling and sort of the one-sided aspect of the storytelling. I just had a,

00:30:10.260 I've always had independent opinion on matters. By the way, for those watching,

00:30:15.360 that means conservative. You know, when you say independent in Hollywood, they're like,

00:30:19.200 you know. Well, yeah, or it's just like the difference of opinion. I mean, there is a main

00:30:23.520 way of thinking in the L.A. film industry, and if you think differently, conservative or otherwise,

00:30:29.280 you are otherized, and it is something that you have to overcome as a filmmaker and as an artist,

00:30:33.420 as someone who's expressing themselves. And so I got a phone call a number of years ago saying,

00:30:40.100 like, hey, we've got these stories. They're building effectively a museum, kind of a Holocaust-style

00:30:45.060 museum for the victims of communism. And, you know, the Cold War ended, and there was this whole

00:30:48.860 propensity to just leave those stories, like, who wants to remember the past? Who wants to think

00:30:52.500 about this? And then, and enough times gone by, you know, 20, 30 years, where I started seeing that

00:30:58.600 those oral stories were starting to die out, weren't being captured, weren't being brought to

00:31:03.520 the sort of historically significant level of being known to sort of the cultural literacy.

00:31:09.720 And it just really struck me that it was an important, underserved part of storytelling. And

00:31:14.560 so I took on the project, Witness Project, and it was really looking at the first-person,

00:31:19.660 primary source people who experienced these things. I mean, there's more than one type of evil in the

00:31:25.740 world. And these stories are important to capture, and you have to go to the source. And so I actually

00:31:31.420 really looked at it and thought about it as the journey of the dissident. I mean, everything in

00:31:34.740 this town is based off of the hero's journey, right? I mean, every feature film is the ordinary

00:31:39.440 world, the call to adventure, the rejection of the call, the meeting of the mentor, the acceptance of

00:31:44.480 the call. You know, then you have the ordeal, the belly of the beast, the reward, the road home.

00:31:50.440 That's every feature film, every feature film, right? And we have to know that pat when you make

00:31:54.200 films in this town. And so I took it and looked at it as the journey of the dissident, where you live

00:31:58.120 in a collective, closed society, and your individuality has been crushed. There is a

00:32:03.580 journey of that awakening within. And, you know, well before the external 6,000 miles dragging yourself

00:32:09.400 through the jungle, there's the sort of, you're mapping the world, you're being fed propaganda.

00:32:13.660 And, you know, there's only one God, the dear leader. And then there's this sort of, you start

00:32:18.920 to learn, you start to map the world out for your own mind, and there's cognitive dissidence. There's

00:32:23.060 what you've been told and what you have realized. And that's the first threshold of coming out as a

00:32:29.580 dissident, coming out as an activist. You're like, huh, things are different. And the entire communist

00:32:33.440 system is designed to try and stop you from thinking at that moment. And so I thought, well, how do we show

00:32:38.460 that threshold? How do we show that internal awakening that happens before the first steps

00:32:43.080 taken when you cross the border to, like in Jishang Ho's case, cross the border to China and start that

00:32:48.600 step-by-step process? So then, and then the second, much like the meeting of the mentor, the first time

00:32:54.540 you decide to say something out loud, the first time you decide to express yourself, that's life or

00:32:58.720 death. You think, hmm, this doesn't seem to compute. They don't seem to be the total leader. You say it to

00:33:04.860 them. You say it to your parents. You say it to your brother. You say it to your sister, whoever,

00:33:09.640 your friend. If you happen to choose incorrectly, that could mean death. That could mean re-education.

00:33:14.800 That could be loss of reputation. It could be loss of ability to support yourself. I mean, it's a very

00:33:19.600 profound journey that happens internally. So I look at the internal and the external as sort of a

00:33:25.460 two-part aspect of my storytelling. Of course, yeah. I think Sung Ho was talking about that too,

00:33:30.500 the spiritual aspect, you know, this kind of internal aspect, and then obviously the external

00:33:36.360 horrors. When can we see this? You know, obviously we've gotten to hear a little bit about this story.

00:33:45.080 When can we see this and how are we going to make sure that the American people can see this,

00:33:50.100 this historically important matter that for so long hasn't really been talked about?

00:33:56.280 Yeah, well, we just wrapped a great series of production days filming this, and we're going

00:34:00.720 to be working on post-production for a number of months, and we'll figure, and so probably in the

00:34:04.520 next six months we'll come up with this episode, maybe less, and we're working on distribution for

00:34:09.160 it right now in terms of a worldwide distribution. But right now it's currently available. Victims of

00:34:13.700 Communism has a website, you know, Slash Witness, Smock Media. We also have portals to the same aspect,

00:34:19.920 and we're just sort of building our cultural base and understanding of that world,

00:34:25.060 of close societies, of communist, collectivist societies, and the oppression. So it's a great

00:34:28.880 space to kind of start learning how oppression works on the left side of the spectrum.

00:34:34.600 Well, Hawk, it is so wonderful that you are using the tools of Hollywood to convey

00:34:40.920 important stories that aren't being told and to bring about a lot of good by uncovering a lot of evil.

00:34:48.840 I mean, it is so wonderful. I've been out here for a little while, and that isn't what

00:34:52.320 Hollywood does. That just, Hollywood just never does that. So that's really wonderful. I can't

00:34:56.660 wait to see it. And Song Ho, you are doing God's work, man. It is a singular privilege of my life

00:35:03.200 to get to meet you. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thank you both. Pretty cool to talk to those guys,

00:35:09.700 and great to see some good stuff coming out of Hollywood, too, as they're making this documentary

00:35:14.080 about it. You saw probably on the 4th of July, James Woods, outspoken Hollywood conservative,

00:35:19.640 James Woods' agent dropped him. He said, it's the 4th of July, and I don't want to represent you

00:35:24.600 anymore. Right? That's Hollywood for you. So it's good to see some good stuff coming out of Hollywood.

00:35:29.380 And, you know, I guess it's kind of, it's too bad for the movie industry because James Woods is such

00:35:32.840 a good actor, but at least now he'll have more time to be on Twitter. And he's a very good tweeter,

00:35:36.760 too, so that'll be enjoyable. Breaking news now, the EPA chief, Scott Pruitt, has resigned.

00:35:42.040 President Trump has accepted his resignation. Democrats have been gunning for this guy forever

00:35:46.140 because he was a strong deregulator. He was really undoing a lot of the insane

00:35:50.220 and tyrannical Obama administration agenda of using the EPA in particular, but the executive agencies

00:35:56.120 to basically regulate all of Americans' lives, to, in effect, pass laws that run Americans' lives.

00:36:02.480 And he did a great job. I'm sorry to see him go. Andy Wheeler, the deputy EPA chief,

00:36:06.940 will take over in his place. And I hope he's related to Liz Wheeler. I don't know,

00:36:11.020 maybe. That'd be kind of cool, wouldn't it? A good, sturdy Texas constitution. Anyway,

00:36:16.540 it's too bad to see him go. He did a great job and they smeared him and he withstood the smearing

00:36:21.040 for a while. But these guys who are trying to regain some American liberty, it really,

00:36:26.080 they're sacrificing a lot because their lives basically get ruined by the left. So good on

00:36:30.460 you, Scott. Good job for what you did. We've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube. Go to

00:36:34.220 dailywire.com right now. It is 10 bucks a month, $100 for an annual membership. You get me,

00:36:38.600 you get the Andrew Klavan show, you get the Ben Shapiro show. You get to ask questions in the

00:36:41.280 mailbag, which is coming up. We got a solid 10 minutes left where we can talk about that.

00:36:45.500 But none of that matters. Oh, that tastes like a judge, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, doesn't it?

00:36:56.980 Does that taste like, it tastes like the news headline, Justice Amy Coney Barrett,

00:37:01.680 and then the deluge that comes down from all the lefties. Those leftist tears, deluge.

00:37:05.540 Very good. We can only hope. Go to dailywire.com, get your leftist tears. Tumblr will be right back

00:37:11.100 with the mailbag. I'm running late, so let's get right into it with the mailbag from Alex.

00:37:26.620 Dear St. Michael of the silent word, bringer of all leftist tears, I implore you,

00:37:30.820 I've become acquainted with a QT 3.14. Anybody get that? With a QT pie bearer of 2X allosomes,

00:37:41.720 chromosomes, allosomes, I don't know, by means of my church choir, and I must say that she tickles

00:37:46.420 my fancy. What with her devotion to the risen Christ and her many gifts from God, let's say.

00:37:53.480 Well put. I feel as though I ought to make a move on this woman, but am hindered by my adherence to the

00:37:58.640 notion that the church is supposed to be a place of devotion to our Lord, our God, and not a place

00:38:03.420 to fraternize. I feel as though if I were to attempt to form a relationship with a woman who

00:38:08.240 I've come to know through church events, I'd be in a sense degrading the institution. But then again,

00:38:12.900 if not through Catholic-related events, how on God's green earth am I supposed to find and marry

00:38:16.300 a Catholic woman? Please help me solve this dilemma. I'm happy to help you solve this.

00:38:20.380 I'll read Genesis chapter 1 verse 28.

00:38:24.340 And God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and

00:38:31.320 subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens,

00:38:35.080 and over every living thing that man moves on the earth. You know, it's not good for man to be alone.

00:38:39.340 Man needs a mate, and that's why God gave Adam a mate and seems to have maybe given you one.

00:38:44.480 Now, here's the important thing, because I understand you're worried about being inappropriate

00:38:49.800 in the church or being irreverent. Some things are inappropriate in the church. Acoustic guitars,

00:38:55.640 that song about the eagle's wings, applause, and those things are inappropriate in a church.

00:39:01.960 Marrying a woman and just populating it with lots of little Catholic babies,

00:39:06.700 very appropriate to begin that in a church. Now, there's one caveat here, which is,

00:39:13.060 if you're in this choir with her, and you really, obviously, you don't want to be too distracted

00:39:17.040 during the mass, buddy. You know, try to keep your eyes on the prize. But afterward, or at the

00:39:21.940 little coffee afterward, or whatever you're going to do, it's good to think about other things and,

00:39:26.200 you know, how to follow God's commands on this earth. Because you're in this choir with her,

00:39:32.740 and it's, you know, you're focused on God, you just got to be kind of cool about it. Like,

00:39:37.160 don't be weird about it. You know, you don't want, you want to go up and ask her out and be confident,

00:39:41.940 and maybe that'll go well. And if she is really not interested, then, you know, unfortunately,

00:39:47.820 you got to let it go. But there is, there is nothing in, I've, I've read the Catechism of the

00:39:53.220 Catholic Church. I've read the Bible. I've read some, some of the church fathers. There is nothing that

00:39:58.100 says that you cannot pick up a cute lady and populate God's green earth. Quite the opposite,

00:40:03.480 pal. Go forward in Genesis 128. Let me know how it goes. From Cameron, to the Daily Wire's homegrown

00:40:10.720 gavone. A week ago, you made a distinction between a conservative and a constitutional Supreme Court

00:40:18.400 justice. And while I agree with you in principle, I'm having some trouble getting my mind around the

00:40:23.080 example you used. You said that a conservative justice would ban abortion outright, but a

00:40:27.620 constitutional or textualist or originalist justice would simply overturn Roe v. Wade and kick the

00:40:32.980 lawmaking to the states. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but it seems to me that if you accept

00:40:37.420 the premise that abortion is the killing of unborn children, as I think I've heard you say

00:40:40.700 on the show, then states don't have the right to allow it. Again, I'm no expert, but it seems crazy

00:40:44.840 to me that the Constitution leaves space for the states to legalize the killing of any subject of

00:40:48.760 its population. Arguments about the death penalty set aside for the sake of the question. What am I

00:40:53.580 missing here? Thanks, Cameron. You're missing federalism. Most murders are state crimes. They're not federal

00:40:58.340 crimes. That's why we have a federal system in the Constitution. So not everything hateful

00:41:02.600 and odious is covered by some provision of the Constitution. Now, find me a state that doesn't

00:41:07.260 consider murder a crime. Good luck. You probably won't. But that's not a matter for the federal

00:41:12.220 government to decide. That's regulated by the states, with some exceptions. There are some murders

00:41:15.940 that are federal crimes. But when they're not, you leave it to the states. And if you believe in

00:41:20.920 federalism, then you'll suspect that most states will come to see the light and come to a reasonable

00:41:28.220 conclusion. But that's why. As Scalia once told me, the late Great Justice Scalia, not everything hateful

00:41:35.620 and odious is covered by some provision of the Constitution. And you've got to be okay with that

00:41:40.280 because that's the central liberty premise in the Constitution. And if you don't like that,

00:41:47.240 then you really just become the flip side of the lefty people who want to twist the Constitution.

00:41:52.080 Now, that's probably better. I'd rather have a conservative twist the Constitution than a lefty twist

00:41:57.000 the Constitution. But what I really want is for the document to speak for itself and for the document

00:42:02.460 to be interpreted with the original meaning that it had, the original public meaning at the time that

00:42:07.140 it was ratified. From Haley. I have a little bit more time. Who do you think should be chosen for

00:42:13.780 Supreme Court? For the Supreme Court. Amy Coney Barrett. That's who. I think she's terrific. I think there

00:42:18.640 are a lot of good options out there. And it looks like the shortlist is down to three. Some of the other

00:42:22.840 people seem okay. She seems to be the most rock ribbed. She seems to be the most sure thing

00:42:27.660 on a personal level. And, you know, optics do matter. The personality does matter because,

00:42:34.640 you know, they will be going through a confirmation process. This will play out on a political stage.

00:42:39.400 She's just, it appears unimpeachable and terrific. She raised seven children while becoming a federal

00:42:45.640 judge. She takes her religion seriously. Dianne Feinstein said that the, what is it, the dogma

00:42:53.660 lives loudly within her. Works for me. And she's been through this vetting process very recently,

00:42:59.780 this same process. So I think it'd be good. And I think it would be nice to have someone that we

00:43:06.440 can rely upon to be an originalist on the court. And she seems pretty rock ribbed. This isn't to say

00:43:10.660 that the others are awful, but she's got my support. From Keegan. Hi, pretty boy Knowles. Hey,

00:43:17.140 Keegan. Me and my friend are having a small argument over Israel and Palestine. He keeps

00:43:21.960 saying that the Israelis want to invade and claim the Palestinians' lands, which is complete

00:43:26.380 assininity. What would be some simple points to point out to him over this matter? Okay. Well,

00:43:32.200 you're right. It's completely ridiculous. The Israelis couldn't invade Palestinians' land because

00:43:38.040 there's no such thing as Palestinians' land. There's no such country as Palestine. It's to

00:43:42.720 the left of Wakanda and to the east of Narnia. It's utter nonsense. The great leader of Palestine,

00:43:49.500 Yasser Arafat, was born in Egypt. He's an Egyptian. There's no such thing. It's a contrived crisis

00:43:53.940 created by Arabs who oppose the existence of Israel. It's really sad that other Arab nations have allowed

00:44:00.260 some people who now call themselves the Palestinian people to live in squalor and to, as a cudgel,

00:44:07.720 to try to attack the state of Israel. The Islamic religion has no claim on Jerusalem whatsoever

00:44:12.180 and the Palestinian dilemma will only be resolved when the Arab states around it want peace and the

00:44:20.920 Arab states around it appear not to want peace. It's utterly contrived and we shouldn't mistake

00:44:28.780 the crocodile tears of Islamic tyrannical nations around them as anything but what they are,

00:44:34.700 which is uncompassionate and a cudgel against a legitimate flourishing democratic state in the

00:44:40.320 region. From Ryan, hi Michael. In the Catholic faith, it is of the utmost importance to be open

00:44:46.800 to having children when getting married. Would Catholicism be more in favor of a homosexual

00:44:50.800 couple getting married with plans to have children or a heterosexual couple getting married with no plans

00:44:56.080 to have children? Most of that question is nonsense by the light of the Catholic Church and this is

00:45:02.280 because the debate over whether to have gay marriage or not is not whether gay people should

00:45:07.940 have the right to get married but what marriage means and the definition of marriage that has

00:45:13.240 existed for all of human history is that sexual difference inheres in marriage and so if you don't

00:45:19.300 have sexual difference then you don't have marriage. You have something else but it isn't marriage.

00:45:23.220 So to the first part, that couldn't happen. For the heterosexual couple, the sexually different couple

00:45:28.780 who are getting married and have no plans to have children. You have to be open to children for that

00:45:35.140 to be a sacrament. If you're not open to children then it isn't, then you aren't getting married in

00:45:40.360 the light of the Catholic Church and this is, this, they are very hard line about this. I mean this is a

00:45:45.020 hard line rule. If somebody has, is incapable of having children, not that you know perhaps it won't work

00:45:53.800 out or they're, it seems that they're barren or something like that but if it is like they're

00:45:59.360 missing half of their body, they're only a torso up to a head, you can't get married. That's not a,

00:46:04.460 that isn't a legitimate marriage in the eyes of the Catholic Church. You have to be open to it. Now

00:46:08.520 what does that mean? Some people say, oh I don't know that I want to have kids and then like five

00:46:11.920 seconds later they start their brood. I've got some friends who are like that, so I don't think I want

00:46:16.020 to have kids until now and now I'm gonna have like 10 of them. So that, you know, things can change like

00:46:20.980 that but you must be open to the possibility of life and if you're not, then it's not marriage.

00:46:26.800 Now if you're, let's say, two people get married and one is post-menopause and I don't know, one,

00:46:33.560 it isn't, it isn't looking, some doctor said you're probably not gonna have kids. That doesn't

00:46:37.260 take out the logical possibility of life. That doesn't, you know, that, that is still, that could

00:46:42.120 still be a legitimate marriage but when it's not logically possible, it's not a marriage. Can I take

00:46:47.600 one more? Do I have time for one more? One more you say, okay I'll do it. From Sean, is it true that

00:46:54.320 the only thing that flat earthers have to fear is the sphere itself? Great question. This is why you

00:47:01.460 tune into this show for real important bits of insight like that. That might, that might well be

00:47:06.200 true. I do want to mention something about the flat earthers though because this irks me all the

00:47:10.320 time. You always hear lefties compare conservatives to flat earthers. They say, oh you know in the old

00:47:15.120 times, the people thought the earth was flat and what's great is that the real flat earthers, meaning

00:47:21.500 people who denied basic realities of the world, the real flat earthers are the people who promote the

00:47:26.940 flat earther myth. In, in the old timey days, nobody thought the earth was flat. People have known that

00:47:32.260 the earth is spherical since the sixth century before Christ and Aristotle, that was Pythagoras who

00:47:38.020 suggested that, Aristotle has provided evidence that the earth is spherical since the fourth century before

00:47:43.040 Christ. There's this myth that people in the old timey days, like in the middle ages, thought the

00:47:47.520 earth was flat. This was put forward by John William Draper, who's a scientist, Andrew Dixon White, who

00:47:52.980 was an educator, and Washington Irving, whom I love, good essayist and biographer, but dead wrong about

00:47:57.840 this. It's just a, it's one of these tools that the lefties use to try to make it seem like we moderns,

00:48:03.920 you know, we moderns have iPhones, so clearly we're much smarter and more educated than those crazy

00:48:09.180 middle ages people. Not true. The people in the middle ages, medieval philosophers, were much, much smarter

00:48:15.420 than you and I. Thomas Aquinas is much smarter than you and I. And it's just a total lie. So I love, whenever

00:48:20.360 they say that, say, you know, you are using that phrase to call people from the past idiots, and you are using

00:48:27.300 it to demonstrate that you yourself are an idiot. On that note, we have so many more questions. We're not going to get to

00:48:34.840 them. Have a good weekend. I hope you enjoy the 4th of July. It's like a nice abbreviated week. I'm going

00:48:40.080 to get back to my solid 72 hours of loafing around and not doing anything, and I'll see you on Monday.

00:48:46.280 I hope you have a good weekend. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 05, 2018

Ep. 179 - The Third American Revolution

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