Ep. 372 - Democrats Embrace Crisis
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Summary
The House votes to provide $4.5 billion in aid to address the border crisis. Democrats, who when President Trump wanted to address it three months ago told us it wasn't a crisis, are now excoriating Republicans for not dealing with the unprecedented humanitarian crisis while not allowing the same Republicans to deal with the crisis. We will examine the left s strange relationship with crises. Then, Google calls Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager Nazis. And the Washington Post smears me for mentioning historical facts. All that and more.
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Democrats, who when President Trump wanted to address the border crisis told us it wasn't a
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crisis, are now excoriating Republicans for not dealing with the unprecedented humanitarian crisis
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while not allowing those same Republicans to deal with the crisis. We will examine the left's
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strange relationship with crises. Then Google calls Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager Nazis.
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And the Washington Post smears me, your humble host, for mentioning historical facts.
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All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Is there a crisis at the southern border or not? Here's what the left is saying right now,
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care of Don Lemon. We have some breaking news tonight, and that is on the House. The House
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has voted 230 to 195 to pass the border supplemental bill to provide four and a half billion dollars
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in aid to address the crisis at the border. And for anybody who doesn't think immigration is a
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crisis, a deadly, serious crisis, a humanitarian crisis,
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Sounds like it's a crisis. OK, that's what the left is saying now. Here's what the left was saying
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three months ago when President Trump pointed out that we have a crisis at the southern border and
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he wanted to declare a national emergency and get funding to stop that crisis. Here's what
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Here's a really, really disgraceful thing, OK? You listening? All of this, this whole mess
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is manufactured. It's a manufactured crisis. A non-crisis at the border that's really not fooling
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anybody. People may think, oh, it's a crisis, a crisis. They know it's not a crisis. That's all
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for political expediency. Oh, they know. They know better. Was past Don Lemon just talking about
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future Don Lemon? I think that might be the case. He's a prophet. It wasn't just Don Lemon,
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though. There were a lot of other Democrats who at that time, three months ago, were referring to
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the border crisis as a fake manufactured crisis.
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This is a manufactured crisis and a crisis that manufactured by the Trump administration.
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What you just cited about criminality between native-born and immigrants. First of all,
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that's not true. There's a lot of conflicting studies.
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But even if it were true, only when you include legal entry as criminality do you get the numbers
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Yes, that's a genuine humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border.
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Yes, there are. But even if that's fake news, there are not. It's fake news.
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It's fake news for you to inject BS. They say that it's equal to the real data.
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The fact is, President Trump must stop holding American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a
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What the president is doing is manufacturing a crisis.
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Chris Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Kaine, the man who was almost going to be the second woman
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president, all of them calling this a manufactured crisis. I also, I have to be fair to my pal Ed Henry
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there. He was quoting national Democrats who were saying that when he brought it up as a
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talking point on the show. They were all saying it's a fake crisis.
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Now, Elizabeth Warren just tweets, she tweeted out at that time in March, quote,
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a fake crisis at the border is fear-mongering of the worst kind and we're not falling for it.
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I voted to terminate the president's ridiculous national emergency. That was then, that was in March.
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Now, what is Elizabeth Warren saying? She just tweeted out this video yesterday.
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I'm in McAllen, Texas, because I want to see with my own eyes what's happening at the processing
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and detention centers. I'd like to be able to show pictures of it, but they won't let us take
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any cameras or recording equipment inside. So I'll just do my best to tell what I saw.
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The processing center, it was like nothing I've ever seen before. It was a giant warehouse
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with cages full of people. It was a processing center, only what they process are human beings.
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I've seen a couple of the pictures that have been released of what the cages look like,
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but there are cages that are much smaller, maybe 10 by 30, densely packed with men.
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One cage after another cage, after another cage, after another cage. And then in another part of
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the facility, the same sort of thing with women. First of all, 10 by 30 is not that small. My first
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bedroom in Manhattan was 10 by 7 feet. It was 70 square feet. Just a minor point.
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But they keep using the word cages, right? Because this is the crisis. We've got people
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in cages. What do they mean by cages? It's not cages. It's a big room. They've got a big room
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where illegal aliens are being held because you have to hold them somewhere. The only reason
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they're calling it a cage is because the people are not allowed to leave. They're not allowed to
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come and go freely. Why are they not allowed to come and go freely? Because they're under arrest.
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They have been arrested coming into this country illegally. They are foreign nationals. They're not
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American citizens. The only alternative to that would be to let them just come in and roam free
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with open borders. That's the difference. But there are fences there. Okay. First of all,
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left-wingers, I thought you said that fences don't work. Clearly the fences are working pretty well
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there. So what do they want? It seems they want open borders, but let's say they don't want to quite
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admit that yet. Maybe they want nicer conditions or something like that. Maybe. For the past two months,
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the left has been arguing that the detention centers are torturous. AOC said they're concentration
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camps because the people there don't have beds. The children don't have beds. Here's Lawrence
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O'Donnell on MSNBC going off on this. Our next guest has been visiting children in custody at the
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southern border for 12 years. She says that she has never seen conditions as bad as what she saw there
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last week. That is when the Trump administration was in federal court arguing that they can provide
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safe and sanitary conditions for the children without providing the children with soap or
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toothbrushes or toothpaste, and that it is perfectly safe and sanitary to sleep on cement floors where
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so many of the children are now forced to sleep. They're sleeping on cement floors. They don't have
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beds. Okay. Fair enough. So the Democrats won't fund border security and they don't have enough beds
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because we've got 3,000 people coming into this country illegally every single day. So what does
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the Trump administration do? They order some more beds. They order $200,000 worth of beds for the
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administration now has ordered $200,000 worth of beds because we're being flooded by illegal aliens.
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There aren't enough beds for all of them. The left is making a big issue out of this, so fair enough.
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We're ordering the beds. How does the left react to that? Are they happy? No, they're not happy because
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they don't want the beds. They want open borders. Actually, they're now doing their best to not
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provide the beds to the Trump administration. The employees at the company Wayfair, which is
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sort of, you know, middle of the road furniture company, they, you know, they're very big. They,
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they service a lot of America. Trump administration orders from them and the employees actually walked
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out on the job rather than fill the order for the beds. They staged a walkout at the company's
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Boston offices. The report said, quote, employees of the Boston-based online housewares giant Wayfair
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announced Tuesday they would stage a walkout at the back bay offices to protest the company's decision
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to sell furniture to operators of facilities for immigrant children detained at the U.S. border.
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So they're upset that the Trump administration is ordering $200,000 worth of bedroom furniture for
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detention centers. Their statement read, quote, over the last two days, it has come to our attention
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that Wayfair has again engaged in sales with BCFS, a nonprofit government contractor managing camps for
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migrants at our Southern border. So now the left is not willing to provide beds to illegal alien children
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in order to own the cons for not providing beds to illegal alien children fast enough, even though
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they're trying to do it now and they can't, they can't do it. That's the idea. Obviously, if the left
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cared about providing the beds, they'd ship the beds, they'd ship double the beds. They'd give them a
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discount on the beds. They'd get them there one day shipping, two hour shipping like Amazon Prime or
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something. But they don't care about that. They just want open borders. It's also an incoherent protest.
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It doesn't make a lot of sense. If they're still working with any federal contract,
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then they're working with the people who are hosting these detention centers.
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The left tries to pretend that money is not fungible. Money is fungible. You can't work
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at Planned Parenthood and say, oh, listen, I have no connection to the abortion industry. I don't work
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at all with the abortion industry because I just work at the cafeteria at Planned Parenthood. Oh no,
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I just work in the condom department. I'm not in the abortion department. So even though I'm providing
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my services to Planned Parenthood, don't worry, I'm not working in abortion. They actually,
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speaking of Planned Parenthood, they do this with the Hyde Amendment. Theoretically in the United
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States, taxpayer funding can't go to abortion, but we give Planned Parenthood half a billion dollars
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a year and we just pretend we're not funding abortion because we say, oh, they're going to use
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it to keep the lights on. They're going to use it to pay their phone bills, but they're not going to
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use it literally to perform abortions. Money is fungible. If this company is doing business with any
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other department of the federal government, the EPA, the energy department, the whatever,
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the military, they're working with the institution, the federal government, which is housing these
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detention centers. But it's, it's virtue signaling. It's trying to create some pressure. It's trying to
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create open borders. So in March, when President Trump described the border crisis as a national
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emergency, Democrats said it was a fake crisis. Now the Democrats say it's a real crisis.
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Okay, that's fine. I think it's a real crisis too. So I'm glad they came around, except the Democrats
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don't want the Republicans to do anything to actually fix the crisis. They don't want us to
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declare a national emergency. They don't want us to fund a border wall. They don't want us to fund
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immigration enforcement. They want to abolish immigration enforcement. They want to abolish ICE.
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They don't even want us to buy beds for the illegal aliens that they're complaining don't have any
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beds. Two factors are at play here. Why are they doing this? The first factor is that we have the
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first Democrat presidential debate tonight, and it is going to be such a delight. I can't wait.
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So they're all trying to out left-wing one another. They're all basically, they're going to all be
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speaking in Russian by the end of this. They're going to be calling each other comrade by the end of
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the day before they get to this debate. The second, and this is the more important aspect of this,
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is that the left and the Democrats want open borders. They're now actually admitting this.
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So don't, some people I think accuse me of being hyperbolic sometimes. Don't take my word for it.
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Cory Booker, Democratic Senator, current candidate for President of the United States, possibly. I think
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he's polling below zero percent, but he's still a candidate. He tweeted out, quote,
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there is nothing criminal about seeking a better life for your family. I've said it before and I'll
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say it again. We have to do the right thing and decriminalize border crossing. There it is. The next
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time that the left tells you they don't want open borders, read them that tweet. He is saying we need
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open borders. If crossing the border illegally is no longer illegal, that's an open border. Now,
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what's so funny, poor Cory Booker can't catch a break. The same day that he tweets this,
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Nicaragua announces that it's arrested four ISIS terrorists who were in Nicaragua on their way to
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cross into the border illegally, cross into the United States illegally. They gave out this
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announcement. The three men are identified as Mohammed Ibrahim and Mahmoud Sami Asa from Egypt and
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Ahmed Ghani Mohammed Al-Juburi from Iraq. The fourth man, Mustafa Ali Mohammed Yaoub from Iraq,
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had travel documents issued on June 13th. Those guys don't sound Nicaraguan to me. I don't know,
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my Spanish isn't so great. They don't sound like they were, they were poor Nicaraguan people just
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trying to find a better life in the United States. Maybe I don't want to be judgmental or anything.
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You've got four ISIS terrorists trying to come up through that porous border, a major national
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security crisis, and the Democrats won't admit it. They admit now they want open borders. So why do they
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want open borders? On a very basic and electoral level, they want open borders because open borders
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guarantee Democrats a steady stream of voters. This is just the way it works. People who cross
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illegally into the country, obviously they can't vote unless they get legal status. But over time,
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their children, their grandchildren will be able to vote. And study after study shows they are between
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three and eight times as likely to vote for Democrats as Republicans. So this is just a basic
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electoral matter. They can take over the country politically if they flood it with illegal aliens
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from Central and South America. But there's a broader level issue here, which we'll get to in a second.
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So on the basic level, Democrats want open borders because it gives them a bunch of voters.
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On the broader level, they want open borders because, or rather they want open borders because
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it gives them all of these voters. On a broader level, they want open borders because progressives
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seek to destroy tradition. That's what they do. That's what progressive ideology is. It's the
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idea that things in the past were bad and things in the future are better and there's a clear path
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to get to the future. So we're going to march on the way there. The conservative movement was founded
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against this. Bill Buckley, when he founded National Review said, a conservative is one who
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stands athwart history yelling, stop. Now the left is going to march toward progress faster and faster
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and faster. An expedient way to undermine American traditions and culture and all those
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conservatives who are trying to stop you is to flood the country with people who don't speak
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English, who don't know anything about the American system of government or American history
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or our traditions here, and also people who are desperate and who are therefore vulnerable to
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political coercion. The Democrats have been doing this since Boss Tweed. They've been doing this since
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Tammany Hall in the early 20th century, late 19th century. They have embraced immigrants who come
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in and they use them. They use them, one, as a cudgel to sort of undermine the conservative aspects of
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the culture that they don't like. And they use them as vulnerable and exploitable people. That's what the
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Democrat machines were. This is, you got to tip your hat to them. This is the best strategy that
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Democrats have at their disposal. It's very effective. It's worked for them for over a hundred
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years. So tip your hat to them, but no one should ever pretend that open borders advocates are
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exhibiting generosity or charity. It's not that. It is purely cynical politics. 60 to 80 percent of women
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and girls are raped as they cross that border illegally, according to Fusion and Amnesty International
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and the Huffington Post. There's nothing charitable about encouraging that system. Children are being
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victimized. You know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that the detention centers are like Holocaust
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concentration camps, Nazi-esque concentration camps. Well, if that's so, then I guess the children's
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parents are Nazi collaborators because it's the children's parents who are bringing them into this
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country to go to what AOC is calling a concentration camp. This is, obviously they're either concentration
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camps or they're not. If they are concentration camps, it's the parents who are doing it. They're,
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they're being brought over here. This is not just some right-wing talking point. No less a leftist
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than Barack Obama made this point when he faced down his own immigration crisis in 2014. And he said,
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what we should all be saying now, but what the left won't say, which is stop bringing your children
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here. This is creating an untenable situation. It's creating a crisis. There's a humanitarian crisis
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on the border. Some of your critics have said, you have to speak out more directly to the people of
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Central America and say, don't come. If you come, you will be deported. Well, we actually, we've done
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that. The problem is, is that under current law, once those kids come across the border, there's a
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system in which we're supposed to process them, take care of them until we can send them back.
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So is your message, don't come? Oh, our message absolutely is don't send your children
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unaccompanied on trains or through a bunch of smugglers. That is our direct message to the families
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in Central America. Do not send your children to the borders. If they do make it, they'll get sent back.
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More importantly, they may, may not make it. Could you imagine if he were running in the
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Democrat presidential primary right now? No one would give him a second look because that's not
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Barack Obama's party anymore. He was already a very left-wing guy. They've moved so much further
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left. We'll see how far tonight that the party has veered left and it'll be a lot of fun and I can't
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wait for tomorrow. Now we'll be able to see how far the Democrats have veered. We, we actually might not
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be able to see what conservative thinks about how, how far the Democrats have veered because Google is
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censoring us. Don't take my word for it. James O'Keefe at Project Veritas strikes again. He has a
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whistleblower over there. He's obtained leaked emails from Google's transparency and ethics group
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internal communications thread. And what that series of messages showed is that Google wants to suppress
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Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and Prager University. Why do they want to suppress them? Because
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they are Nazis. How is that possible? How is it possible that, I'll repeat those names, Ben Shapiro
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and Dennis Prager, both members of a certain ancient nomadic tribe of monotheists known for their bad
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wine and delicious pastries. I think you know which group I'm talking about and they are not the Nazis.
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They're actually the opposite of the Nazis. But that's what they're saying now. They're calling
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today it is often one or two steps to Nazis. If we understand that PragerU, Jordan Peterson,
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Ben Shapiro, et al. are Nazis using the dog whistles you mentioned in step one. By the way,
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I have to pause here. The left always talks about dog whistles. They're the only ones who hear the dog
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other videos. What they're saying is for right-wingers, for conservatives, totally mainstream
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conservatives, they don't get that feature. So you can't keep watching videos. Ben Shapiro is a Nazi.
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That's what they say. We joke about this. We joke about it around here all the time. We say,
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oh, Ben, you're one of the few yarmulke-wearing Nazis I've ever met. You're the Jewishest Nazi I've
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ever seen. This is a joke. It's become a meme on the internet. But it's not just a joke or a meme.
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Employees on the Transparency and Ethics Committee of one of the most powerful companies in the history
00:24:35.240
of the world that totally controls the flow of information around the internet believes that Ben
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Shapiro is a Nazi. And Google is taking actions based on this. And their response, you are not going to
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and Google responded here? Project Veritas gets the whistleblower, gets the emails,
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shows all, you can't deny it, right? So what do they do? Because Google has such transparency,
00:26:26.580
such ethics, they pull the video. They pull the video from YouTube because they control the internet.
00:26:31.500
They control the flow of information. So if some video comes out that makes them look bad,
00:26:35.720
they're just going to delete it. No answer. It doesn't matter. That video was already approaching
00:26:39.600
50,000 likes and 1 million views. They just pulled it. And then after they pulled it,
00:26:45.760
what are they going to do when they're called out for pulling it? They're going to lie.
00:26:49.040
They're going to pretend they didn't do it. They're going to pretend that we shouldn't believe
00:26:52.660
our own lying eyes. They tweeted out, quote, we've had a lot of questions today, clarifying we apply
00:26:58.640
our policies fairly and without political bias. All creators are held to the same standard. I guess
00:27:04.460
the people running the YouTube Twitter didn't see the email leaked from their very company where
00:27:11.140
they admit that that tweet is a lie, right? I guess that makes sense. What does this all come down
00:27:16.000
to? What it comes down to is that the 2020 race has barely begun and already they are censoring
00:27:24.300
conservatives shamelessly and they are lying about it shamelessly. And it's coming from the most
00:27:30.520
powerful companies in the history of the world who control the flow of information.
00:27:37.260
By the time of this election in 2020, I would be surprised if we're still on YouTube.
00:27:44.800
I don't see how they keep, they're already censoring so many of our videos. They're already
00:27:48.660
demonetizing. They're already suppressing us. They are restricting a video that I did for Prager
00:27:52.780
University on language and words. They're censoring and restricting this video.
00:27:59.520
What's in a word? Why does it matter whether we call someone who breaks the law to enter the country
00:28:05.240
an illegal alien or an undocumented immigrant? What's the difference between a Christmas tree
00:28:10.680
and a holiday tree? It's just semantics, right? Yes and no. It is just semantics, but semantics
00:28:18.500
means the meaning of words. Words exist so that we might discriminate one thing from another.
00:28:25.160
Without words, we have chaos. And it starts with the first words. A baby says mama to distinguish
00:28:31.760
mommy from daddy. Words shape how we think. They color how we view the world.
00:28:38.500
Pretty, pretty crazy stuff, huh? Pretty provocative stuff, talking about words and how we use language.
00:28:45.620
Wow. Oh gosh. Can't, can't show your kids that. If anything, that is a dry video, but the left is
00:28:53.460
restricting it. YouTube is restricting it because it shows one of the chief leftist strategies for
00:28:59.500
shaping the culture, which is forcing us to say certain words to not say other words. So YouTube
00:29:04.560
restricts it. They're actually proving my point by what they're doing. Now, the one way that they're
00:29:11.060
able to justify this is by pretending that conservative content has no value beyond shock
00:29:17.460
and entertainment. And guess what? The Washington Post did this to me, to yours truly, your humble
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host, just yesterday in a totally ridiculous hit piece. We'll get to it in a second, break it down.
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So one way that the left can justify censoring conservatives is they have to pretend that we
00:30:12.480
don't have anything of value to say. Lionel Trilling, a leftist intellectual, said 50 years
00:30:18.460
ago now, 60 years ago, that conservatism wasn't a coherent thought or philosophy. It was just a
00:30:25.420
series of irritable mental gestures. Liberalism was the only intellectual tradition in the United
00:30:30.480
States. So you could just dismiss conservatism. The left is doing that now. And the WAPO did this to
00:30:35.240
me yesterday. This was a piece by Tyler D. Perry. I've got it here. And the headline is
00:30:41.260
how right-wing talking points distort the history of slavery. The alternate headline for this could
00:30:46.960
be how the Washington Post distorts the content of the Michael Knowles show. Subheader, as we debate
00:30:52.280
reparations, we need to get the facts right. I agree. I totally agree. What's so funny about this piece
00:30:57.200
is the whole thing is calling me out for getting the facts wrong on the question of the history of
00:31:03.840
slavery. But then never at one single point in the entire article can they point out one fact that
00:31:11.340
I got wrong. And actually a couple of times they get some things wrong. So he writes, this guy,
00:31:15.440
Professor Tyler Perry, that obviously brings an image to your head of Tyler Perry, the movie star.
00:31:21.860
That's, I think that's why this guy puts a D in the middle of his name. He writes, quote,
00:31:25.480
The Daily Wire's Michael Knowles led the critique of reparations on his podcast,
00:31:29.480
arguing that the United States was less responsible for slavery than other countries
00:31:33.760
and that slavery was not based on race. So on the first point, that's true. The United States
00:31:39.440
did import many fewer slaves than other Western Hemisphere countries. Over 40% of the slaves that
00:31:46.020
were brought to the Western Hemisphere went to Brazil. Between 4% and 6% that came to the Western
00:31:50.660
Hemisphere went to the United States. He never disputes that fact. He's just insinuating that this is
00:31:56.160
somehow a bad thing. Then he says that I said that slavery was not based on race. I never said
00:32:01.060
that. And he actually admits that I never said that later in the piece. He goes on. These arguments
00:32:05.100
have become reflexive right-wing talking points that rely on faulty information and historical
00:32:10.220
misrepresentations to dismiss the devastating consequences slavery had on generations of African
00:32:15.500
Americans. So in my show, I actually begin the discussion by explicitly agreeing with the fact that
00:32:22.960
slavery had devastating consequences on generations of African Americans. I point out that there's a
00:32:27.940
very strong emotional case to be made for reparations, but there's not a strong logical or historical
00:32:34.700
case. But I admit there are very real consequences of slavery from the beginning. Now, he says I rely on
00:32:41.240
faulty information and historical misrepresentations. Let's see what those are. It was myth number one.
00:32:46.720
Due to its lower imports, the United States' involvement in Atlantic slavery was insignificant.
00:32:51.840
Never said that, just said they played a much smaller role in it than other countries, which
00:32:57.400
is true. As he writes, critics of reparations often assert that the United States imported a small
00:33:02.340
number of enslaved people compared to other countries in the Western Hemisphere, correctly
00:33:06.560
citing Brazil as the largest importer. Correctly. Okay, good. So one of those misrepresentations
00:33:12.500
turns out I was right and he's admitting I was right. But the low percentage of imported slaves
00:33:17.280
does not exonerate the United States. That's fine. I never said it exonerated the United States. I
00:33:23.380
explicitly said it did not exonerate the United States. So I guess the way that this professor
00:33:29.680
wants to deal with misrepresentations is he's going to admit that everything I actually said is true.
00:33:34.720
Then he's going to misrepresent what he, what he wishes that I said. And then he's going to explain
00:33:39.960
why that is false. He is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men. He goes on, what's more, low imports
00:33:46.520
did not necessarily result in a more benign form of slaveholding in the United States. I never said
00:33:51.720
it did. Myth number two, slavery was about class, not race. In dismissing the reparations claim,
00:33:58.580
Knowles states that slavery was not simply a racial issue and could not be boiled down to white people
00:34:04.380
had black slaves. That's correct. I never said it was not a racial issue or that it was about
00:34:11.160
something other than race. I said it was not simply a racial issue. Now, is that claim true or false?
00:34:19.420
The guy writing the article admits it's true. He goes on the next sentence. Yes, systems of slavery
00:34:24.700
existed in the ancient world and there are still enslaved people in the 21st century, regardless of
00:34:30.660
race. Right. That's true. So I'm glad we agree. Then he goes on to assail me for an opinion that I
00:34:38.100
never stated. He said, conservatives note that Irish bonds people labored alongside enslaved Africans in
00:34:44.880
the colonies. So he's saying, he's accusing me of saying that the Irish form of indentured servitude
00:34:53.280
was exactly the same as African slavery in the United States. I never said that. I never made that
00:34:57.620
point. Now he knows I never made that point. So he has to, he has to couch it in this vague language,
00:35:03.000
conservatives note. He's just talking about broad conservatives, except I'm the only conservative
00:35:07.680
that he actually names in the article. And he alludes to me throughout the entire article. So
00:35:12.380
what he's implying is that I said that, never said it. Myth number three, a black man was the first slave
00:35:19.100
owner in North America. This is an interesting myth because it's true. So let's see how he gets around
00:35:24.160
this. So the third most egregious talking point or the third most egregious point circulating in
00:35:28.600
conservative media is that America's oldest original sin was in fact, innovated by a black
00:35:33.480
man, Anthony Johnson, whom Knowles called the first formally recognized slave owner in the United
00:35:38.800
States. I never said that slavery was innovated by a black man. What I said was, as he quotes me,
00:35:45.540
that Johnson was the first formally recognized slave owner in the American system of slavery that we
00:35:50.960
would come to recognize. The next sentence, yes, Johnson owned slaves. Okay. Sounds like I was
00:35:57.900
right. He goes on. His status as the first known slave holder probably stems from his successful suit
00:36:03.980
against his indentured servant, John Kaser, in which Kaser was deemed a slave for life and identity that
00:36:09.020
became a determining feature of U.S. chattel slavery. So the first formally recognized slave owner in the
00:36:17.620
United States in the system of slavery that we would come to recognize as American slavery was a black
00:36:23.300
man. He admits that in the paragraph immediately after he refers to that as a myth. Complete contradiction
00:36:32.680
right after one another. Well, how does he try to make this into a myth? Well, he says later on,
00:36:40.180
the focus on Johnson's unique status is not unique, by the way. There were other black slave holders.
00:36:44.920
The focus on Johnson's unique status is designed to convey their underlying argument. Not the argument
00:36:50.780
we're actually making, but the argument this guy imagines we're making. If a black man could own
00:36:54.900
slaves in early America, then black people and white people held access to the same opportunities
00:36:58.800
for social mobility. When did I ever say that? Never once. All I said was slavery was not simply a
00:37:07.520
matter of race. Now, why did I say that? Because the first slave owner was black and because at the time of
00:37:13.920
the civil war and even after the civil war, after the United States officially abolished slavery,
00:37:20.780
Native Americans of the five, five civilized tribes held black slaves at similar rates to neighboring
00:37:27.520
whites. Is that about white supremacy? When Indians own slaves at the same rate as whites, is that
00:37:34.500
about white supremacy? I don't think the Indians are white, are they? No. So he has to assail arguments
00:37:40.760
that I'm not making and he has to pretend that arguments that I did make, which are correct and
00:37:46.160
he admits are somehow not true even though they're correct. He goes on a little bit and by the end,
00:37:52.680
he says, scholars of slavery in the African diaspora must engage the public with renewed vigor and
00:37:59.320
challenge such misrepresentations. Otherwise, we surrender the narrative to dishonest public figures
00:38:05.280
who selectively edit the system's overtly racist features and its devastating legacy. So he ends
00:38:10.380
by calling me a dishonest public figure. Even though every point that he talks about the historical
00:38:15.600
misrepresentations, we need to get the facts right. Every point that I actually made that he cites is
00:38:21.320
correct. And yet the headline, what's the headline of the piece? How right-wing talking points distort the
00:38:28.720
history of slavery? We need to get the facts right. But everything I said was true. Who's the one who's
00:38:38.780
distorting history? Who's the one who's not getting the facts right? Who's the dishonest public figure
00:38:44.440
here? Obviously, Professor Perry. Now, why did they publish this at all? I mean, this is a terribly
00:38:51.960
written column. Like this should not have gotten past a 10th grade English teacher. Why did they
00:38:58.540
publish this in the Washington Post, which used to be a newspaper? Because people are just going to
00:39:02.820
read the headline. They're not going to go watch my show. They're going to read the headline and
00:39:06.900
they'll see right-wing talking points distort history. We need to get the facts right. The Daily
00:39:11.300
Wire's Michael Knowles led the critique. Oh, I guess Michael Knowles got the history wrong.
00:39:15.600
I guess Michael Knowles didn't get the facts right. Well, if you read the piece and you read beyond all
00:39:20.460
the innuendo and all of the misrepresentations, actually, you'll see everything I said was true.
00:39:25.260
I got the history right. This professor got the history wrong. The editors got the history wrong.
00:39:30.020
The Washington Post got the history wrong. But they're going to engage in outright lies and smears
00:39:35.140
because they don't want to lose another election. They were very upset they lost in 2016.
00:39:40.380
They're not going to lose again if they have anything to say about it.
00:39:46.160
Speaking of dubious facts, we need to check in. I think we got to check in every
00:39:50.340
single day on that crazy lady who's accusing Donald Trump of rape. And then she said it
00:39:54.560
wasn't rape, but a lot of people are still saying it was rape 23 years ago. In a bizarre
00:40:00.220
twist, it turns out that the story that this woman is describing about her rape by Donald
00:40:10.400
Yes, there was one a bit plain and it was not her fantasy. It was mine. Okay. Yeah.
00:40:22.560
Ah, well, play took place in the dressing room of Bergdorf's. While she was trying on lingerie,
00:40:37.580
Of course, of course, this is the end of this whole ridiculous saga is that we find out that
00:40:43.260
this woman who is obviously not stable, who went on Anderson Cooper and said rape is sexy,
00:40:48.220
who said she was raped and she wasn't raped, who said it was 23 years ago, but she never mentioned
00:40:52.180
it until now when she's selling a book. Of course, it turns out that she's just reliving in a fantasy,
00:40:59.620
an episode of Law and Order. I got to give credit to Mindy Robinson. She's the one who dug this up.
00:41:06.580
Really brilliant. I mean, I guess there's a Law and Order episode about everything, but, you know,
00:41:12.060
every single day that this story has gone on, we found out that the story is less and less credible.
00:41:17.980
You had Trump critics on the right, anti-Trump conservatives, and you had the entire left
00:41:22.940
immediately believes this woman, Trump's a rapist. Then it turns out she's just a crazy lady.
00:41:29.420
And I say this actually with some compassion. She's not well, and the left is exploiting her
00:41:35.100
and putting her on television. And she's just confusing reality for an episode of Law and Order.
00:41:41.720
The left does not want to reduce sexual assault. They don't care. They don't actually care.
00:41:47.920
If they did, first of all, they wouldn't exploit crazy ladies, which totally undermines this whole
00:41:52.260
case. If they did, they would close up the border for one. We said earlier, 60 to 80% of women and
00:41:57.540
girls, according to Fusion and Amnesty International, raped as they cross it. If they did want to reduce
00:42:02.580
sexual assault, they would deal with it on campus by sending it to the criminal justice system,
00:42:07.840
to the cops, to trials and juries. They wouldn't deal with it by having a bunch of professors
00:42:13.480
host a committee to expel students. That's not taking rape and sexual assault seriously.
00:42:19.120
If they wanted to reduce rape and sexual assault in corporate America,
00:42:21.820
they would totally burn down our current HR infrastructure.
00:42:26.860
All of these Me Too scandals, all of this sexual assault has happened during the period of a total
00:42:31.680
proliferation of HR policies, mandatory sexual harassment trainings. It turns out none of that
00:42:38.600
has worked at all, has it? Seems that the problem's only gotten worse while all of that is happening.
00:42:43.180
Turns out that those ridiculous mandatory videos of why you shouldn't grope your secretary,
00:42:50.000
turns out that doesn't actually accomplish very much. People don't pay them a lot of heed.
00:42:54.900
Obviously, it's not working. Maybe it's counterproductive. But the left is expanding
00:42:59.080
that infrastructure, expanding regulation, expanding control, even though it doesn't work.
00:43:03.060
They're keeping the border completely open, even though it increases sexual assaults.
00:43:07.660
They're not referring cases of campus sexual assault to the criminal justice system.
00:43:11.820
They just want more and more arbitrary bureaucratic control.
00:43:17.900
The left doesn't want to fix the immigration crisis. It doesn't want to fix the homeless crisis.
00:43:23.280
They just want all of these crises. Why does the left thrive on crises?
00:43:28.640
The left loves crisis because crisis justifies leftism.
00:43:33.360
Leftism is the philosophy of crisis. Leftism only works when the problems are really urgent.
00:43:43.040
They can't wait. We can't have a reasonable debate. We can't discuss this. We can't think about this.
00:43:48.440
We can't reflect on whether the solutions they're offering are actually going to help the problem
00:43:52.460
or maybe they'll make it worse. Leftism only thrives when there's a crisis. We've got to do
00:43:57.640
something now. We've got to change now. Conservatism is the philosophy of prudence,
00:44:04.060
of reason, of taking your time, of some context, of taking things slowly.
00:44:09.620
Let's calm down and let's make sure that we're not going to make the problem worse. At first,
00:44:13.600
do no harm. That's what conservatism is. And when people relax, when they take a moment,
00:44:18.720
when they take a beat, they think, they tend to favor conservative solutions. The left can't have that.
00:44:24.260
But we've been told Trump is a rapist, racist, sexist, monster, traitor, colluding with Russia.
00:44:31.220
We've been told all these things. It's a crisis. We need to take him out. We've got to use the 25th
00:44:34.760
Amendment, get rid of the president. We need to impeach him. We need to get him out. Why?
00:44:39.300
Because his presidency has been very effective, very good. Good for the economy. Good for peace
00:44:43.940
abroad. Good for Americans who have been left behind in some ways by the global economy. Good for
00:44:50.040
minorities. Good for everybody. And the minute that we realize that there's not this intense,
00:44:57.580
immediate crisis going on, then we're going to realize that. Ironically, the one crisis,
00:45:04.840
the one crisis that actually is a crisis going on right now is we're being flooded by illegal aliens.
00:45:11.280
Democrats, because it's convenient for them, are going to admit that that's a crisis, but they're
00:45:14.800
not going to let us do anything to solve the crisis because they don't want to solve the crisis
00:45:17.620
because the crisis is what gives them their power. And we're going to see a lot of that
00:45:21.140
at the Democrat debate tonight. I can't wait. We'll talk about it tomorrow. In the meantime,
00:45:24.840
I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. I'll see you then.
00:45:32.580
The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Rebecca Dobkowitz and directed by Mike Joyner,
00:45:36.820
executive producer Jeremy Boring, senior producer Jonathan Hay. Our supervising producer is Mathis
00:45:42.800
Glover, and our technical producer is Austin Stevens. Edited by Danny D'Amico. Audio
00:45:47.460
is mixed by Dylan Case. Hair and makeup is by Jesua Olvera. And our production assistant is Nick
00:45:52.860
Sheehan. The Michael Knowles Show is a Daily Wire production. Copyright Daily Wire 2019.
00:45:57.980
Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, there's a crisis on the southern border. I think
00:46:01.800
leftists are finally waking up magically to this fact. What can we do about it though? Is it,
00:46:07.160
is the answer to just fling open the doors, open the border, not enforce our immigration laws? Is
00:46:11.900
that really the most compassionate answer to the crisis? I don't think so. We'll talk about that
00:46:16.240
today. Also, and this is not a joke, a liberal film critic is saying now that Toy Story 4 is racist
00:46:22.720
because there are no black toys. Yes, really. Not a joke. She really said that. We'll talk about
00:46:28.100
that today. Also answer your emails over on the Matt Wall Show.