The Michael Knowles Show - October 24, 2019


Ep. 438 - America Is Becoming Britain


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

175.89143

Word Count

8,343

Sentence Count

625

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

After weeks of closed-door Democratic impeachment meetings, Congressman Matt Gaetz leads a group of Republicans to storm the secretive deposition room to demand transparency. Meanwhile, a top aide to Hillary Clinton signals that America s favorite battle acts may be running again. Some fear the U.S. is headed towards civil war. We are becoming Great Britain.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 After weeks of closed-door Democratic impeachment meetings, Congressman Matt Gaetz leads a group
00:00:06.280 of Republicans to storm the secretive deposition room to demand transparency.
00:00:11.880 Meanwhile, a top aide to Hillary Clinton signals that America's favorite battle acts
00:00:17.360 may be running again.
00:00:19.420 Some fear the U.S. is headed towards civil war.
00:00:22.220 I fear a far more dreadful future.
00:00:25.280 We are becoming Great Britain.
00:00:27.300 We will analyze our political polarization.
00:00:29.020 Then, Hillary 3.0 gets a big boost.
00:00:33.180 Some good news from Syria after bad news on the domestic front.
00:00:36.760 Finally, the mailbag.
00:00:37.760 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:48.740 All right.
00:00:50.620 So, yesterday, big fireworks fly in the Congress
00:00:56.520 because Republicans stormed the impeachment proceedings.
00:01:01.900 They ran down there.
00:01:03.540 It was chaos.
00:01:04.440 It was madness.
00:01:05.160 Okay, so that wasn't, I guess that wasn't that exciting.
00:01:25.640 But if you ask Democratic Rep Jerry Connolly, it was madness.
00:01:30.360 Jerry says, the whole thing was threatening, shouting back and forth.
00:01:35.220 I sat down, and all of a sudden, the room filled up with non-committee members.
00:01:39.500 Initially, it was a little hard to realize what was happening.
00:01:41.660 In fact, to be honest with you, I got a little concerned.
00:01:46.540 Don't forget, by the way, when people regularly use the phrase to be honest with you,
00:01:51.040 it means that they're generally not honest with you.
00:01:53.500 And I think that's what's coming from the Democrats.
00:01:55.500 This was not some crazy kick down the doors.
00:01:58.280 We're taking over.
00:01:59.220 This is a coup d'etat.
00:01:59.900 It was Republicans asking to be let into a room for the impeachment proceedings
00:02:05.220 that they should be invited to.
00:02:06.600 So, not exactly threatening.
00:02:09.780 But this was a total setup.
00:02:11.820 This was a complete bit of political theater from the Republicans,
00:02:17.800 but the whole impeachment proceedings are political theater from the Democrats.
00:02:22.340 When you think about impeachment, I think what people are trying to do
00:02:25.960 is they're trying to figure out what is this impeachment about.
00:02:28.380 Something with Ukraine and Joe Biden and a phone call,
00:02:32.560 and that's the wrong way to think about it.
00:02:34.900 You have to look on the longer scale.
00:02:36.780 Democrats have been trying to impeach President Trump since before he took office.
00:02:43.100 Who's the guy leading the impeachment charge?
00:02:45.040 It's Adam Schiff.
00:02:46.160 Adam Schiff, rather.
00:02:47.580 Adam Schiff has been caught lying time and time again.
00:02:50.920 Adam Schiff has been caught leaking time and time again.
00:02:54.460 Adam Schiff has been caught in the pockets of leakers from the intelligence community.
00:02:58.380 Time and time again.
00:02:59.180 Now he is leading this impeachment inquiry based on anonymous whistleblowers
00:03:04.520 from within the bureaucracy that we will never hear from.
00:03:10.340 Okay?
00:03:10.660 And he's passing along this information, which is hearsay, which is secondhand,
00:03:14.200 from these anonymous whistleblowers who we already found out from the IG are biased.
00:03:19.180 First, we found out the whistleblower, this brave, wonderful American from the intelligence community,
00:03:25.280 had shown demonstrable bias of opposing Donald Trump.
00:03:30.460 We then found out he formerly worked on the staff of a Democrat.
00:03:34.480 We just found out today there is a third evidence of anti-Trump bias from this whistleblower,
00:03:39.080 that we don't know the nature of that bias yet.
00:03:42.440 And there's a real irony here, too, because when Barack Obama, Trump's predecessor,
00:03:46.720 had a real scandal, the Fast and Furious scandal, where he was running guns across our border,
00:03:51.640 there was a whistleblower in that case, too.
00:03:54.240 And do you know what Barack Obama did to that whistleblower?
00:03:57.120 Did he exalt him?
00:03:58.480 Did he elevate him?
00:03:59.300 Did he bring him behind closed-door meetings to testify?
00:04:02.080 No, he fired him.
00:04:03.540 The guy's name was John Dodson.
00:04:04.720 Everything about this case, though, is secret.
00:04:10.060 The reason that everything is secret in this case is because they don't want those consequences.
00:04:15.920 They don't want it to become clear that this is a total setup,
00:04:18.260 like all the other setups for the past three years.
00:04:20.440 They don't want the witness to be cross-examined by the public or by anybody else.
00:04:26.060 They don't want President Trump to be able to face his accuser.
00:04:28.880 In the case of the Obama Fast and Furious whistleblower, we knew the guy's name.
00:04:32.680 We know the guy's name today.
00:04:33.680 If Adam Schiff and the House Democrats have their way, we're never going to find out.
00:04:37.620 So they've been for weeks and weeks secretly deposing all of these witnesses.
00:04:40.900 Then yesterday, Laura Cooper, who is a Pentagon official, she oversaw Ukraine policy.
00:04:46.520 She was subpoenaed to testify.
00:04:48.520 And the testimony was supposed to be classified testimony.
00:04:51.720 That's why it was a big hubbub when the Republicans forced their way in.
00:04:55.180 The thing is, the subpoena was not classified.
00:04:58.580 The subpoena that called her to testify.
00:05:00.760 So the Republicans actually saw a little bit of daylight here.
00:05:03.380 And they went in.
00:05:05.140 What is this all about?
00:05:08.640 Is this about Ukraine?
00:05:11.340 No.
00:05:12.260 Is this about Joe Biden?
00:05:13.940 Not really.
00:05:14.840 I don't think the Democrats are even that eager to nominate Joe Biden.
00:05:18.740 This is about the 2020 election because the Democrats do not believe that they can beat Trump at the ballot box.
00:05:26.820 They think that if they cannot impeach Donald Trump, that very likely he will be reelected.
00:05:34.540 This is not just psychobabble.
00:05:36.160 This is not just me trying to read the minds of Democrats.
00:05:38.540 This is actually from the mouth of loudmouth Democrats themselves, including Representative Al Green back in May.
00:05:46.620 You've been calling for starting articles of impeachment since 2017, but a new Quinnipiac poll taken after the release of the redacted Mueller report found that 66 percent say Congress should not start impeachment proceedings.
00:06:00.400 And there's a sharp partisan divide, as we all know, with only four percent of Republicans favoring impeachment.
00:06:05.980 Congressman, are you concerned that impeachment talk may actually help the president's reelection?
00:06:11.820 I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get reelected.
00:06:16.660 Pretty clear.
00:06:17.920 And I think he's probably right.
00:06:19.380 Al Green, he says outrageous and ridiculous things in the House.
00:06:22.460 But he's been around a while.
00:06:24.300 This guy knows a thing or two about politics, and I think he's probably right.
00:06:28.500 If the Democrats thought that they could beat President Trump at the ballot box, they would not be trying to impeach him.
00:06:35.600 I mean, they have literally been trying to impeach him since before he took office.
00:06:42.260 Elizabeth Warren, Dick Durbin, a number of other leading Senate Democrats tried to set the stage legislatively before he took office to impeach him.
00:06:50.640 House Democrats were sending letters to the Government Services Administration, setting the stage for impeachment before Trump took office.
00:07:00.480 Then Al Green tried to impeach him a year ago, two years ago.
00:07:05.360 They've just been trying to do this because they're initiating an impeachment in search of a crime.
00:07:12.460 But what they believe, what the left believes is they are losing their control on the culture.
00:07:17.800 They're losing their control.
00:07:18.640 They were supposed to win in 2016.
00:07:19.780 They didn't.
00:07:21.000 And so they've got to overturn that election by any means necessary.
00:07:25.340 And at least some guys like Al Green are very radical, but they're willing to say what they mean.
00:07:29.460 So if we are now at the point in this country where the legislature run by a different party is willing to overturn the results of a presidential election,
00:07:40.820 what does that mean for the future of our country?
00:07:43.260 Some say we're headed for a civil war.
00:07:46.420 Actually, the majority of Americans say we're headed toward a civil war.
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00:09:44.140 Are we headed toward a civil war?
00:09:45.940 That is what the majority of Americans say, not just a majority, two-thirds of Americans.
00:09:53.360 Voters were asked on a 0 to 100 scale to rate the level of political divide in this country.
00:10:03.040 The value offered for 100 was edge of a civil war.
00:10:08.060 However, the mean response, the average response, was 67.23.
00:10:13.500 That score was similar to a 70.77 score from the April poll.
00:10:19.220 So you've got the majority of Americans say we're headed toward civil war, and what they would say is the likelihood of that is 67%.
00:10:28.560 I don't think that we're headed toward a civil war.
00:10:32.400 Now, I think our future is even bleaker than that.
00:10:36.880 I think we are headed toward becoming Great Britain.
00:10:40.680 I know.
00:10:41.380 I don't want this extreme rhetoric like I've got to threaten my countrymen and say we're about to become a bunch of dirty, rotten limeys, but we are.
00:10:49.960 We are headed toward becoming Great Britain.
00:10:52.700 When people saw that scene yesterday at the Capitol of Matt Gaetz and the Republicans storming into the room,
00:10:58.540 when you actually watch the video, it's kind of restrained.
00:11:01.440 They kind of walk in.
00:11:02.680 I think they ordered pizza at one point.
00:11:04.220 Then they walked out, and the deposition went on.
00:11:07.800 The British Parliament is far wilder than that.
00:11:10.840 If you've ever watched Prime Minister's questions or any video of the British Parliament, things get crazy.
00:11:18.580 Here's just take a listen.
00:11:19.620 This is just a little glimpse of the British Parliament.
00:11:21.940 Does the Prime Minister recall that at the time after he became Prime Minister under the coalition,
00:11:30.260 and at the time when he was dividing the nation between strivers and scroungers,
00:11:35.520 I asked him a very important question about the windfall he received when he wrote off the mortgage of the premises in Notting Hill,
00:11:47.480 and I said to him he didn't write off the mortgage of the one the taxpayers were helping to pay for at Oxford.
00:11:55.100 I didn't receive a proper answer then.
00:11:58.660 Maybe Dodgy Dave will answer it now.
00:12:02.920 And by the way...
00:12:06.100 And by the way...
00:12:10.100 I love...
00:12:23.600 That's not like that was just members of a crowd.
00:12:25.600 That was members of Parliament, and they're all yelling,
00:12:28.160 and the guy sounds like he's Trump, Dodgy Dave, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe.
00:12:33.620 So I think we're headed in this direction, and that's a terrible thing.
00:12:38.380 And that's a terrible idea, because we don't really have the history, the roots, the tradition,
00:12:45.640 and the kind of cultural similarity that the Brits do to pull that off.
00:12:51.620 You know, at least the Brits, in the one minute they can be screaming and yelling and angry and,
00:12:55.540 oh, duh, oh, duh, oh, duh.
00:12:58.240 And then the next minute they can be making jokes about that, which they often do.
00:13:02.180 Americans are a little more earnest than those Brits, and we're more diverse,
00:13:05.220 and we're much more bound up by our Constitution and by our shared experience here
00:13:10.740 than we are with just the incredible length of history that the British people have.
00:13:15.440 So I think probably it's...
00:13:17.820 I guess it's better than Civil War if we become Great Britain.
00:13:20.380 But there is a fear here, too.
00:13:21.740 We did become very disorderly before the Civil War as well.
00:13:25.040 I guess it can go one of two ways.
00:13:26.520 We can either become the yelling parliament and say,
00:13:28.480 oh, duh, oh, duh, or we can start shooting each other in fields in Gettysburg.
00:13:32.460 Hopefully it's the former.
00:13:34.180 Let's not forget, right before the Civil War, there was a lot of strife in the legislature.
00:13:37.420 There was the caning of Charles Sumner where Representative Preston Brooks,
00:13:42.540 the Democrat from South Carolina, used his walking cane to attack Senator Charles Sumner,
00:13:48.340 who is an abolitionist Republican, and he nearly killed Sumner.
00:13:51.360 It's not like he just whacked him once on the back.
00:13:52.920 He nearly killed the guy.
00:13:55.120 So are we heading toward that Civil War?
00:13:56.480 I'm skeptical.
00:13:58.800 You know, the Civil War involved a very serious moral question.
00:14:03.520 Are we debating moral questions right now?
00:14:05.820 What is the moral question we're debating?
00:14:07.720 Are we debating the phone call to Ukraine?
00:14:10.480 Is that a serious moral question?
00:14:13.060 Possibly withholding U.S. aid to Ukraine unless they investigate their relations to the Obama administration?
00:14:19.200 That's not a serious moral question.
00:14:20.560 So directly, we are not debating that.
00:14:24.520 There are, however, serious moral questions boiling below the surface.
00:14:28.320 Abortion.
00:14:28.900 We kill a million babies a year, and we've been debating it for 50 years.
00:14:32.580 It's boiling below the surface.
00:14:33.940 The nature of sex and gender.
00:14:35.800 What that means for child abuse, if we're going to pump little kids full of hormones and block them from going through puberty.
00:14:40.940 So those big questions are there.
00:14:43.240 We're just not talking about them directly.
00:14:45.080 We don't have either the moral clarity of the abolitionists.
00:14:48.840 We don't have the local attachments of the secessionists.
00:14:53.400 We don't have a serious debate.
00:14:58.160 So I don't know that we're headed towards Civil War.
00:15:00.380 I think we're going to become Great Britain.
00:15:01.640 That's a very bad thing because impeachment will run roughshod over the executive branch.
00:15:09.080 And what it will do is create more or less congressional supremacy, just like you have parliamentary supremacy in Britain.
00:15:17.180 That's just not good.
00:15:18.500 Our framers of our Constitution, our founders, considered that.
00:15:22.500 They said, should we just make Congress the main branch of government?
00:15:25.580 And ultimately, they said no.
00:15:27.360 And they wrote about this in Federalist 65.
00:15:29.560 Alexander Hamilton wrote this.
00:15:30.900 And he dealt with the question of impeachment.
00:15:33.460 If you give the Congress too much power in impeachment, then the executive, the president, will just sort of be a puppet to serve at the will and the pleasure of the Congress.
00:15:43.300 So what Hamilton wrote in Fed 65 is, quote, a well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a government wholly elective.
00:15:56.500 The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.
00:16:06.340 They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.
00:16:14.800 In other words, you're not going to impeach a president because he jaywalked 20 years ago.
00:16:20.460 You're not going to impeach a president because he has unpaid parking tickets.
00:16:23.080 You're going to impeach a president for the acts that he does that violate the public trust that are political.
00:16:28.480 Except where are you going to get a court to try these impeachments?
00:16:31.480 It's because you want a well-constituted court that isn't just going to use impeachment as a power grab, and that is very difficult to find.
00:16:43.140 So Hamilton goes on.
00:16:44.560 The prosecution of these injuries, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused.
00:16:56.800 In many cases, it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other.
00:17:08.560 And in such cases, there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of the parties than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.
00:17:18.140 It is like Alexander Hamilton is looking into a crystal ball and seeing Adam Schiff's smug little face looking right back at him, and he says, this is a bad idea.
00:17:27.220 We don't want this to happen.
00:17:28.920 So they ultimately decide, is it going to be tried in the House?
00:17:31.260 Is it going to be tried in the Supreme Court?
00:17:32.520 And they ultimately decide on the Senate, not because they think the Senate is some great body.
00:17:36.640 They just think it's the least bad body of all of them to try it.
00:17:40.300 So Hamilton goes on, he says, quote, where else than in the Senate could have been found a tribunal sufficiently dignified or sufficiently independent?
00:17:49.180 What other body would be likely to feel confidence enough in its own situation to preserve unawed and uninfluenced the necessary impartiality between an individual accused and the representatives of the people, his accusers?
00:18:02.740 So Hamilton and the founders and framers feared this.
00:18:07.300 They did not want a sort of parliamentary supremacy, the supremacy of the House of Representatives over the executive.
00:18:13.860 They're putting this in impeachment.
00:18:15.860 Let's not forget impeachment was not invoked very often.
00:18:18.480 We did it to Andrew Johnson in the 1860s.
00:18:21.240 Then we didn't do it again until Richard Nixon in the 1970s.
00:18:25.340 Then we did it 20 years later to Bill Clinton.
00:18:29.420 Then it looks like we're going to do that 20 years later to Donald Trump.
00:18:35.440 The speeding up of that means that you are getting the Congress to more or less treat the president like a prime minister, just as someone who is serving when he wants to serve them.
00:18:44.420 And actually, on that point, it's important to note that Hillary Clinton might run for a third time.
00:18:51.200 This seems like it only affects the 2020 election, but it actually affects the direction of our whole government.
00:18:56.540 Because what you're beginning to see is permanent leaders of their parties who come into office and out of office and then go back into office again.
00:19:05.300 They're nominated, then they lose, then they're nominated again, and they just have a sort of semi-permanent control over their party.
00:19:12.020 Here's Hillary's, one of her top advisors, Philippe Rines, going on Tucker Carlson's show and more or less saying she's seriously considering running for president.
00:19:20.720 A man who has served for decades as one of her closest aides, Philippe Rines.
00:19:23.900 Philippe, great to see you tonight.
00:19:24.960 You too, Tucker.
00:19:25.420 So I'm assuming what I just said and what we're hearing is true, that if she thought she was the best position to beat Donald Trump, she'd get in the race.
00:19:33.140 She's not...
00:19:33.920 I would take issue with the Macedonia part.
00:19:35.940 But other than that, you know, she ran for president because she thought she would be the best president.
00:19:40.980 If she still thought that now, if she thought she had the best odds of beating Donald Trump, I think she would think about it long and hard.
00:19:47.840 I know...
00:19:48.180 So she's not...
00:19:48.940 She hasn't foreclosed the possibility.
00:19:50.320 I guess that's what I'm saying.
00:19:51.560 So really the question, and that doesn't surprise anybody who's followed the claims, right?
00:19:55.400 Well, look, this is a huge if.
00:19:56.980 But if she were to jump in for whatever reason, and the party has moved someplace that she hasn't, then she won't get the votes.
00:20:03.360 That's the point of the primary.
00:20:04.620 There are, I guess, still 19 people.
00:20:06.460 There are a few that are in double digits.
00:20:08.220 If she were to run and people think that she's too left, too right, too center, whatever you want to call it, that's the beauty of it.
00:20:15.140 They get to vote against whoever they want.
00:20:17.660 I don't know.
00:20:18.520 She's not running because she has any anxiety about the Democratic field.
00:20:24.000 She really likes a lot of the people running.
00:20:26.080 She knows them well.
00:20:26.820 She thought about some of them for her vice presidency.
00:20:28.740 But there might be a reason that she'd be the best person not only to beat Donald Trump, but to govern after Donald Trump, which is a part we don't talk about much.
00:20:36.740 And look, you can make fun of it all you want, but 65 million people voted for her.
00:20:40.580 And that's second or more to anyone who's saying.
00:20:43.300 Did you catch that little slip from Philippe Rines?
00:20:48.040 So the whole interview is hypothetical.
00:20:50.920 Yeah, she could run.
00:20:51.840 Maybe she'd run.
00:20:52.660 Who knows?
00:20:53.060 Then he says, look, she's not running because she has worries about other people in the field.
00:20:58.120 She's what did I say?
00:21:00.720 He referred to her as though she is already running.
00:21:07.480 Anybody who's ever followed the Clintons knows the Clintons do not go away.
00:21:11.440 In the event of a nuclear holocaust, the two survivors will be the cockroaches and the Clintons.
00:21:17.620 All right.
00:21:17.820 They just survive political scandals.
00:21:20.920 She is behaving as though she's running.
00:21:23.060 She's on this book tour now, which is more or less putting her on the campaign trail.
00:21:26.340 She's talking like she's running.
00:21:27.820 She's sniping at other candidates like she's running.
00:21:29.920 And she's sending her advisor on one of the biggest news shows on cable to tell people in the present tense that she is running.
00:21:38.080 And say the reason she's running is not that she doesn't like these other candidates.
00:21:41.440 It's that, oh, whoops.
00:21:42.720 Oh, did I say that?
00:21:45.300 This is probably the clearest sign yet that we're becoming Great Britain.
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00:23:26.500 So you got Philippe Rines going on TV saying Hillary's running.
00:23:30.520 You've got a New York Times op-ed also raising the prospect of Hillary 3.0.
00:23:34.700 And that came out, that certainly came out with the push of the Clinton team.
00:23:41.280 Nothing happens by accident in the New York Times.
00:23:43.620 And nothing about the Clintons happens by accident either.
00:23:46.280 This is a parliamentary process.
00:23:47.680 You know, remember Winston Churchill.
00:23:49.880 Winston Churchill was the prime minister 1940 to 1945.
00:23:53.580 And he gets kicked out of power.
00:23:55.220 Then he returns as the prime minister 1951 to 1955.
00:23:58.660 This is what happens in parliamentary governments.
00:24:03.560 You have long-term leaders of parties.
00:24:06.860 And when the party comes into power, then the leader of that party generally becomes the prime minister.
00:24:12.260 That's the direction we're headed in.
00:24:14.360 We shouldn't do that.
00:24:16.620 This happens when people mistakenly believe they want to become more democratic.
00:24:21.640 So they say, yeah, if we want to be more democratic, then the institution elected by the people should dominate the whole federal government.
00:24:28.340 The founders considered that.
00:24:31.180 They thought it was a very bad idea.
00:24:32.720 We have the most brilliantly constituted republic in the history of the world.
00:24:36.740 We have an incredible and delicate balance of powers and a separation of powers that has allowed our country to thrive.
00:24:43.320 A separation of powers between the three branches of government, the legislature and the judiciary and the executive.
00:24:49.280 This corresponds, just to show you how brilliant our founders were, this corresponds to the tripartite soul.
00:24:57.660 This corresponds to the three aspects of our soul, the logos, the ethos, and the pathos.
00:25:02.660 So the sort of emotional part, the part that responds to feeling, the pathos, that would be represented in the legislature.
00:25:11.520 The sort of raw, pure, unadulterated, logical part is represented in the judiciary, the logos.
00:25:19.920 And then the ethos, the spirited part of the government and of our own persons is represented in that executive who is the spirited part of the country.
00:25:29.780 All three.
00:25:30.780 Now, do they work perfectly?
00:25:32.860 Of course not, because it's a human institution, but they've worked very, very well.
00:25:36.420 We then also separate powers from the federal government to the state level to the local level.
00:25:41.860 This is a brilliant structure that we have been, I don't say we, that the left has been consistently trying to destroy for over 100 years.
00:25:50.820 You begin that with the direct election of senators.
00:25:52.940 So you remove so much of the state power, the states basically have no say in the federal government anymore.
00:25:57.760 Now there are calls to abolish the electoral college.
00:26:00.100 Now there are going to be calls to abolish the significance of presidential elections, to abolish the legal basis for impeachment proceedings,
00:26:07.260 and basically just let the House of Representatives do whatever they want to do.
00:26:12.240 Even if it sort of works in the UK, that doesn't mean it's going to work here.
00:26:17.280 And it doesn't really work that well in the UK.
00:26:18.820 But at least the UK is such a unified people and they have such a long history and they're so peculiar
00:26:24.000 that they don't even really need a constitution in the UK because of the weight of history.
00:26:29.620 In the United States, we do.
00:26:31.660 We're a very, very young country.
00:26:33.000 We take in more immigrants than anybody in the history of the world every year and we try to assimilate them into American culture,
00:26:40.180 though the left increasingly doesn't want us to do that.
00:26:42.580 We have very little that holds us together.
00:26:44.760 We need to preserve this delicate structure that has served us well for so long.
00:26:49.180 The left doesn't want that to happen.
00:26:52.000 You know, I've got some very, very bad news from the campaign trail.
00:26:58.740 This is really, I hope it doesn't happen, but I've got to let you know, Julian Castro may drop out of the 2020 race.
00:27:07.600 And when Julian Castro, the man who made presidential history by endorsing abortion rights for men during a presidential debate,
00:27:15.800 when he drops out, I'm pretty much done with this presidential election.
00:27:20.780 You know, what he's doing is he's saying, if we don't raise $800,000 in the next 10 days, my campaign is over.
00:27:26.740 Now, what he's trying to copy is Cory Booker's strategy of saying, if we don't raise $1.7 million in nine days, the campaign will be over.
00:27:35.380 And he did it and he made a lot of money.
00:27:36.760 So Castro has actually given his voters a pretty good deal.
00:27:40.060 Castro is also polling at 0.6%.
00:27:41.960 So I don't think his campaign is long for this world.
00:27:44.720 I'm going to be very sad when it goes away.
00:27:46.420 It's one of the most ridiculous and frivolous campaigns I've ever seen.
00:27:51.900 So we wish him well.
00:27:53.120 I don't know.
00:27:53.400 Maybe I'll donate just to keep him on that debate stage.
00:27:55.820 We have got to get to one amazing little clip from AOC trying to grill Mark Zuckerberg,
00:28:01.740 doing her best Charlie Day impression from Always Sunny and some actually pretty good news out of Syria.
00:28:06.460 Then we got the mailbag.
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00:28:52.900 So, we've got some good news out of Syria, some relatively good news out of Syria.
00:29:10.400 I mention this because all we're talking about are the political fights and the battles and the campaigns and the impeachment,
00:29:16.020 and Hillary's going to run again.
00:29:17.100 And you remember, you remember two weeks ago when President Trump announced the decision to redeploy troops out of northern Syria.
00:29:24.440 People pretended like this was the worst moment in American history.
00:29:29.060 They all pretended like they knew anything about Syria.
00:29:31.280 They all pretended they could find Syria on a map.
00:29:33.020 They pretended they knew who the Syrian Free Army was and the YPG group of Kurds and the PKK group of Kurds.
00:29:40.520 And they then felt a little awkward because they didn't realize that one group of Kurds is officially designated a terrorist organization in the United States.
00:29:47.300 And then they pretended to know the intersections of Iran and Russia and Turkey and all that.
00:29:51.320 And they just didn't know anything.
00:29:52.420 We were told the sky was going to fall.
00:29:53.940 We were told the Kurds were going to be completely massacred, wiped off the face of the earth.
00:29:58.600 Turkey was going to keep just marching all the way into Syria.
00:30:02.120 And it didn't happen.
00:30:04.520 It didn't happen.
00:30:05.400 What President Trump did was then instituted some sanctions against Turkey, said,
00:30:11.460 I'll destroy your economy if you don't stop invading Syria and if you wipe out the Kurds.
00:30:15.840 So Turkey stopped.
00:30:18.100 There was a ceasefire that was initiated.
00:30:20.040 People said it wouldn't last.
00:30:21.060 It looks like it's last.
00:30:22.100 And President Trump is declaring victory.
00:30:23.940 Well, thank you very much.
00:30:27.760 My fellow Americans, I greet you this morning from the White House to announce a major breakthrough
00:30:32.480 toward achieving a better future for Syria and for the Middle East.
00:30:37.460 It's been a long time.
00:30:39.400 Over the last five days, you have seen that a ceasefire that we established along Syria's border
00:30:48.260 has held, and it's held very well, beyond most expectations.
00:30:52.260 Early this morning, the government of Turkey informed my administration that they would be stopping combat
00:30:58.800 and their offensive in Syria and making the ceasefire permanent.
00:31:05.220 And it will indeed be permanent.
00:31:06.580 However, you would also define the word permanent in that part of the world as somewhat questionable.
00:31:14.180 We all understand that.
00:31:15.660 But I do believe it will be permanent.
00:31:17.500 I've therefore instructed the Secretary of the Treasury to lift all sanctions imposed.
00:31:22.820 Okay.
00:31:24.380 He goes on.
00:31:25.280 There's a lot more to it, obviously.
00:31:26.780 But what happens at the end of this Syria decision?
00:31:31.060 American troops are still in the country, though they've redeployed out of that area.
00:31:34.780 No Americans have been killed.
00:31:36.200 And the fear was that an American might be killed,
00:31:38.340 even as a tripwire might be killed like Americans were killed in the Beirut bombings in 1983.
00:31:44.840 Turkey has stopped going in.
00:31:47.100 Bashar Assad is basically safely ensconced in power.
00:31:50.560 And now Turkey and Syria and Iran and Russia are trying to figure out what to do with that territory in Syria.
00:31:59.760 What end did you want to this?
00:32:04.060 What end?
00:32:04.420 Because we're also being told this is terrible.
00:32:06.140 Russia wins.
00:32:06.960 Iran wins.
00:32:07.500 Did they win?
00:32:08.120 I don't know.
00:32:08.480 Is it a win to occupy Syria?
00:32:10.580 It doesn't seem like a win.
00:32:11.480 That seems like a big loss for American foreign policy.
00:32:13.840 What's the objective here?
00:32:16.420 Regardless of your answer to that question, if you have an answer, which most people will not,
00:32:22.080 this worked out pretty well, right?
00:32:24.740 No one's going to know that because no one's going to follow the story anymore.
00:32:27.360 All they're going to follow is the one week or two weeks of total hysteria from the mainstream media,
00:32:31.940 which has now moved on and starts talking about how Matt Gaetz is upending precedent in the House of Representatives.
00:32:37.000 But this worked out fine.
00:32:39.180 And for all of the hand-wringing about Syria, everything worked out relatively pretty well.
00:32:45.860 What this tells us is on these actual policy matters, just take a deep breath.
00:32:50.740 Just wait because if you have a little ounce of humility,
00:32:54.300 you will realize that perhaps you don't know everything about Syrian foreign policy,
00:32:58.880 and maybe we aren't headed toward civil war.
00:33:02.540 Maybe we aren't headed toward Armageddon.
00:33:04.220 Maybe the country isn't unraveling.
00:33:06.580 Maybe there is some sort of stability here.
00:33:10.380 Before we get to the mailbag, I just have to show you this clip.
00:33:15.680 Take a listen to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez grilling Mark Zuckerberg.
00:33:22.260 So you have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, by her own admission, not the expert.
00:33:28.040 Let's put it that way, okay?
00:33:29.160 Not the brightest bulb in the pack, not the sharpest tool in the shed,
00:33:36.100 grilling Mark Zuckerberg, one of the most intelligent people on Earth.
00:33:39.300 It goes pretty much as well as you would expect.
00:33:41.920 Do you see a potential problem here with a complete lack of fact-checking on political advertisements?
00:33:48.800 Well, Congresswoman, I think lying is bad,
00:33:51.160 and I think if you were to run an ad that had a lie, that would be bad.
00:33:54.700 That's different from it being, in our position,
00:34:00.300 the right thing to do to prevent your constituents or people in an election from seeing that you had lied.
00:34:06.600 So we can, so you won't take down lies or you will take down lies?
00:34:11.840 I think it's just a pretty simple yes or no.
00:34:14.680 Congresswoman, in-
00:34:16.120 I'm not talking about spin.
00:34:17.280 I'm talking about actual disinformation.
00:34:18.960 Yes, in a democracy, I believe that people should be able to see for themselves
00:34:23.480 what politicians that they may or may not vote for are saying-
00:34:26.780 So you won't take them down.
00:34:27.700 ...guards their character for themselves.
00:34:28.620 So you won't take, you may flag that it's wrong, but you won't take it down.
00:34:32.940 Congresswoman, it's, it depends on the context that it shows up.
00:34:37.140 Organic Post adds, the treatment is a little different.
00:34:39.640 One question, one more question.
00:34:43.520 She obviously doesn't know very much of what she's talking about.
00:34:46.760 You could, you could make that statement after almost anything that AOC says.
00:34:51.540 What Mark Zuckerberg could have responded, though,
00:34:53.440 and he was trying to keep his composure and seem like he's being very respectful,
00:34:57.020 that's why he keeps referring to his congresswoman, is she's asking him to censor
00:35:01.220 his, her political opponents.
00:35:02.760 She's saying, you're not going to take down things that I deem lies in politics.
00:35:06.300 In politics, each side is always calling the other side liars.
00:35:09.920 So let's say, to use a similar example that she gives,
00:35:14.140 let's say that a politician runs an ad and says, AOC is going to raise your taxes.
00:35:20.520 And AOC says, I'm not going to raise your taxes.
00:35:22.160 I'm only going to raise taxes for certain people.
00:35:24.260 And I'll actually balance it out and write this kind of typical fights.
00:35:27.020 You hear this in almost every single election.
00:35:29.860 And AOC says, I demand you take down that post that says,
00:35:32.440 I'm going to raise your taxes, which is more or less what she's asking for.
00:35:35.120 What if it were a TV commercial?
00:35:38.040 AOC is going to raise your taxes.
00:35:41.040 I'm AOC's opponent.
00:35:42.320 And I approve this message.
00:35:43.560 Are you going to demand that cable providers take down that message?
00:35:47.540 Because AOC doesn't like it.
00:35:49.220 What if it's a palm card?
00:35:50.300 What if it's a little pamphlet that's sent in the mail?
00:35:52.340 Are you going to demand that the post office censors that palm card,
00:35:57.300 censors that campaign information?
00:35:59.540 No, of course not.
00:36:00.980 But with Facebook, they see an opening.
00:36:03.420 Because Facebook has so much power and it's so new that they see an opening for the left
00:36:08.180 to just grab hold of this entire institution.
00:36:10.460 And Zuckerberg acquitted himself pretty well and he refused to kowtow to her.
00:36:14.600 AOC is also upset that Mark Zuckerberg has been having dinner with conservatives.
00:36:17.720 And she goes after him.
00:36:20.880 In your ongoing dinner parties with far-right figures,
00:36:23.880 some of who advanced the conspiracy theory that white supremacy is a hoax,
00:36:27.900 did you discuss so-called social media bias against conservatives?
00:36:31.820 And do you believe there is a bias?
00:36:34.900 Congresswoman, I don't remember everything that was in the question.
00:36:40.760 That's all right.
00:36:41.100 I'll move on.
00:36:41.620 Can you explain why you've named the Daily Caller a publication well-documented
00:36:46.300 with ties to white supremacists as an official fact-checker for Facebook?
00:36:51.140 Congresswoman, sure.
00:36:52.260 We actually don't appoint the independent fact-checkers.
00:36:54.760 They go through an independent organization called the Independent Fact-Checking Network
00:36:59.020 that has a rigorous standard for who they allow to serve as a fact-checker.
00:37:04.640 So you would say that white supremacist-tied publications meet a rigorous standard for fact-checking?
00:37:17.280 Thank you.
00:37:18.680 Congresswoman, I would say that we're not the one assessing that standard.
00:37:22.920 The International Fact-Checking Network is the one who is setting that standard.
00:37:26.460 So this is why you can't let AOC control Facebook is because she says,
00:37:32.240 look, I'm not trying to censor people who put spin.
00:37:34.200 I'm just trying to censor, you know, liars.
00:37:36.940 And then in the very next sentence, she refers to the Daily Caller,
00:37:40.600 which is a completely mainstream conservative outlet as a white supremacist outlet.
00:37:45.780 Just there's no basis for that whatsoever.
00:37:48.740 So she's a liar.
00:37:49.780 Does she get censored on Facebook?
00:37:51.480 Probably not.
00:37:52.080 But what she would do is cut any organization to the right of Hillary Clinton.
00:37:56.400 Probably any organization to the right of Bernie Sanders, she would censor from Facebook.
00:38:00.680 And it's just that, it's the arrogance.
00:38:02.480 It's that smug, unbelievable arrogance.
00:38:05.340 She says, you've been having dinner with these far-right figures.
00:38:08.960 Listen to this just fruit salad of words.
00:38:13.300 Some far-right figures, some of whom believe the conspiracy theory that white supremacy is a hoax.
00:38:18.960 So she's saying, she's saying the premise is, our government is white supremacist.
00:38:24.740 That we're pretty much living in the antebellum South.
00:38:27.680 We're living with slaves, black slaves on the basis of their skin color.
00:38:32.180 And we're living in this, you know, kind of fever dream of leftists.
00:38:37.700 And if you don't believe that, if you don't think we're living in the pre-Civil War South,
00:38:41.760 then you're a conspiracy theorist.
00:38:44.280 That's what AOC is saying.
00:38:45.680 And watching her try to grill Mark Zuckerberg did remind me,
00:38:51.280 I think this was actually a reenactment with Charlie Day playing AOC on Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
00:38:57.680 Look, buddy, I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings.
00:39:02.360 Where did you go to law school again?
00:39:04.260 Well, I could ask you that very same question.
00:39:05.740 I went to Harvard.
00:39:07.220 How about you?
00:39:09.800 I'm pleading the fifth, sir.
00:39:11.420 I'd advise that you do that.
00:39:12.560 And I'll take that advice into cooperation, all right?
00:39:15.440 Now, let's say you and I go toe-to-toe on bird law and see who comes out the victim.
00:39:19.440 No, and with my lawyerings, you know, and all my various, no, not at all.
00:39:23.820 All right, let's get to the mailbag now that we've seen that reenactment of AOC.
00:39:26.880 From Evan.
00:39:27.840 Hey, Michael, being that you have the best hair at the Daily Wire, partially due to keeps,
00:39:32.300 I was wondering what kind of hair products do you use?
00:39:34.800 I woke up like this.
00:39:39.500 Also, just a little bit of spray to kind of hold it in place.
00:39:42.220 From Claire.
00:39:43.480 My friend is Christian and will marry an atheist this year.
00:39:47.180 Her fiancé is a wonderful man, and I'm thrilled she's happy.
00:39:49.820 However, since I am a Christian and will be standing next to her for her wedding,
00:39:53.340 I feel like I have a responsibility to say something.
00:39:56.480 Interested to know your thoughts.
00:39:58.440 Thanks.
00:39:58.840 Well, how likely is he to come on over and see the light is part of the question.
00:40:06.480 Another question is how are they going to raise the kids?
00:40:08.820 If they're going to raise the kids atheists, it's probably not going to work.
00:40:13.300 If they're going to raise the kids Christian and the husband will kind of go along with it,
00:40:18.180 okay, that's a good start.
00:40:19.600 The other question is about the wedding itself.
00:40:21.840 You know, the Catholic Church still actually has a fairly rigorous standard for this.
00:40:26.840 They've kind of loosened up rules a little bit.
00:40:28.840 After the loosey-goosey mid-20th century.
00:40:31.120 But, you know, in the Catholic Church, marriage is a sacrament.
00:40:35.940 It's not just like something you can do on the beach in your flip-flops.
00:40:38.920 Really, there are a lot of kind of aspects to it because it is a real sacrament.
00:40:44.360 And so there's a long period of talking to priests and doing pre-marriage training,
00:40:50.800 which is called pre-cana.
00:40:53.000 And you're really sussing out a lot of these questions.
00:40:56.600 So the question is, you're a Christian.
00:40:58.680 Your friend is a Christian.
00:41:00.420 What does it even mean to be standing next to her?
00:41:02.040 Is this going to be in a church?
00:41:03.200 Well, if the fiancé is agreeing to be married in a church with a priest or a pastor and there's
00:41:08.620 a kind of liturgy to it and they're saying this is a sacrament before God, then, I don't
00:41:13.520 know, I guess he's probably heading down the right path and you should encourage him along
00:41:16.660 the way.
00:41:18.040 If not, if this is a kind of loosey-goosey thing and some friend is officiating it in
00:41:21.680 the backyard, then you have to ask, what is the marriage in the first place?
00:41:26.120 I think a lot of people get married these days and they just don't really agree to what
00:41:29.000 marriage is.
00:41:29.680 There was some Hollywood degenerate, I forget which one, because I could describe all of
00:41:33.800 them, who said, he got married and shortly after he got married, he told his wife, look,
00:41:38.360 we can't do this monogamy thing, all right?
00:41:40.160 I need to go sleep with other women.
00:41:41.540 We got to get non-traditional here.
00:41:43.100 And this poor woman agreed to go along with it.
00:41:45.140 What else is she going to do?
00:41:46.520 But obviously, that's not a marriage in any way that we imagine a marriage to be.
00:41:52.680 And maybe they didn't sign up for a normal marriage, you know?
00:41:56.320 I mean, are you really believing what you say in the vows?
00:42:00.860 Are you really going to cherish this person faithfully in sickness and in health and good
00:42:06.200 times and in bad times until the end of your lives, until death do you part?
00:42:10.460 Or is this one of these kind of modern hippie things?
00:42:12.660 I'm like, we're going to write our own vows, you know?
00:42:14.420 And it's like, hey, I really love when Johnny washes the dishes.
00:42:18.040 And I promise to always, you know, like, leave the remote on the coffee table.
00:42:21.880 Ha ha ha.
00:42:22.560 Like, okay, if it's that, then you're not taking marriage all that seriously in the
00:42:26.960 first place.
00:42:27.420 So, you know, as always in this era, words are being really distorted out of their original
00:42:35.360 meaning.
00:42:35.980 So you got to make sure going in.
00:42:37.680 I'm not saying the guy needs to convert and be all ready to go and the most Christian
00:42:42.740 guy in the world even before the wedding.
00:42:44.400 But I'm saying your friend and her fiance need to know what they're signing up for.
00:42:49.740 And if they're not on the same page, it's much better to catch that earlier rather than
00:42:54.320 later.
00:42:54.600 From Ben, after his third term in office, whose face on Mount Rushmore will we replace with
00:42:59.820 Donald Trump?
00:43:01.220 It's prudent we begin now to discuss this as this will be a point of contention in a few
00:43:06.040 years.
00:43:06.420 Sincerely, Ben.
00:43:07.180 Thomas Jefferson, no question.
00:43:09.580 Next question.
00:43:10.220 John, Joe Rogan recently had Richard Dawkins on his podcast.
00:43:13.180 They were discussing Christianity specifically with regard to miracles surrounding Jesus.
00:43:17.640 Mr. Dawkins promoted the idea that other than the resurrection, sophisticated theologians
00:43:22.060 believe that all other miracles are either metaphors, didn't really happen, are not important
00:43:27.040 or symbolic.
00:43:28.640 Okay.
00:43:29.100 So as a sophisticated theologian, do you believe only in the resurrection and dismiss all the
00:43:34.460 other miracles as something else?
00:43:35.660 Or do you think that if Jesus is truly God, then turning water to wine isn't that big of
00:43:39.720 a deal?
00:43:40.740 As usual, Richard Dawkins has no idea what he's talking about.
00:43:44.400 You'll notice he doesn't name the sophisticated theologians because he can't.
00:43:48.160 And if he can name any sort of theologian at all who believes that, I promise
00:43:52.020 you they're not sophisticated.
00:43:53.340 You know who's a pretty sophisticated theologian?
00:43:56.340 Thomas Aquinas.
00:43:57.340 St. Thomas Aquinas.
00:43:58.140 You know who's another pretty sophisticated theologian?
00:44:00.520 St. Augustine would be one.
00:44:03.200 The Church Fathers.
00:44:05.360 St. Jerome.
00:44:06.440 I guess I could go on and on.
00:44:08.320 They all believed in the miracles.
00:44:11.140 And Richard Dawkins is not a sophisticated theologian.
00:44:14.800 He's not a theologian at all.
00:44:15.860 So, no.
00:44:17.400 I'm not a sophisticated theologian or a theologian myself, but I do read them, and certainly
00:44:22.880 the miracles are very important.
00:44:25.940 They are essential to Christianity.
00:44:27.700 Also, ask yourself this.
00:44:31.060 If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the divine logic of the universe, born of the Father before
00:44:38.800 all ages, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made,
00:44:44.820 consubstantial with the Father, incarnate of the Holy Spirit, conceived in a virgin, born into
00:44:56.040 this world, dies on the cross to redeem man from his sin, then three days later rises from
00:45:02.880 the dead.
00:45:03.800 You can go along with all of that, but you can't believe that he turns water into wine?
00:45:09.600 That's too much for you?
00:45:10.800 You believe the whole other thing, but, like, he can't possibly turn water into wine.
00:45:16.700 That's not a very sophisticated theological idea.
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