The Michael Knowles Show - October 31, 2019


Ep. 442 - Democracy Dies In Barkness


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

170.02914

Word Count

8,130

Sentence Count

626

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Trump tweets out a dog meme and the mainstream media lose their collective minds. We will explain why fanatics never laugh and how democracy dies in barkness. Then, Real Clear Investigations uncovers the possible identity of the impeachment whistleblower. We examine who he is and why it matters. Finally, Facebook and Twitter take opposite approaches to political advertising in 2020 and the legacy media dependent left is furious.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 President Trump tweets out a dog meme and the mainstream media lose their collective
00:00:05.320 minds. We will explain why fanatics never laugh and how democracy dies in barkness.
00:00:11.780 Then Real Clear Investigations uncovers the possible identity of the impeachment whistleblower.
00:00:17.480 We will examine who he is and he sure does look an awful lot like Matt Walsh.
00:00:21.780 Then we will examine why it matters. Finally, Facebook and Twitter take opposite approaches
00:00:26.600 to political advertising in 2020 and the legacy media dependent left is furious. All that and
00:00:32.760 more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:43.020 A side note before we begin, I have to thank the Washington Post for giving me my second dog pun
00:00:51.180 title of the week. I really couldn't have done it without you guys. Obviously we had zero bark 30
00:00:57.660 earlier in the week and now because of the Washington Post's absurd reaction to a dog
00:01:03.300 meme tweeted out by the president, we now have today's democracy dies in barkness. So thank you
00:01:08.760 again. This is media. This is journalism. That's the Washington Post. President Trump tweeted out a
00:01:16.140 meme. We're very proud of this meme here at the Daily Wire because it was our meme. It was a meme of
00:01:22.660 President Trump was putting a medal on to somebody obviously onto like it was a medal of honor
00:01:28.460 recipient. And we subbed out the guy and put in a picture of that dog who killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
00:01:36.060 and tweeted it out. So then Trump took it and he just put the words American hero all in caps.
00:01:42.640 This is very funny, right? This is not, of all the intense fury inducing things that happen in
00:01:51.880 politics today, just a nice little moment of levity to celebrate this dog that people like
00:01:56.840 and through that to celebrate the killing of the head of ISIS, right? We'll just leave it at that.
00:02:02.180 Okay. No, of course we can't leave it at that because the mainstream media have lost their minds.
00:02:07.740 This was the response from Steve Herman, Steve Herman from Voice of America. It's a left-wing
00:02:16.200 outlet. He was determined to get to the bottom of this picture because something just didn't look
00:02:20.900 right to him. He tweeted out, I've requested details from the White House on this photo.
00:02:26.280 There was no such canine event on today's president's schedule, but there is a medal of
00:02:32.660 honor ceremony set here for later today for an active duty green beret. You're going to get to
00:02:38.520 the bottom of it, Steve. You're going to find out, hold on, something about, you know, that picture of
00:02:42.660 the smiling dog with his tongue out, having a medal put on him by the president, a medal, which by the
00:02:48.000 way, has a little paw on the ribbon, just a little bronzed paw. Uh, maybe that's not a real photo.
00:02:55.780 Maybe that was photoshopped or something. Let's, let's see. The New York Times investigates it too.
00:03:01.440 New York Times headline quote, Trump tweets faked photo of hero dog getting a medal. It's not a real
00:03:09.460 photo. He didn't even hold a ceremony where he gave a dog the medal of honor. It was fake, fake news.
00:03:18.000 You see in the original photo, President Trump is seen giving the medal of honor to James C.
00:03:26.380 McLaughlin or McLoan. I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it, but this guy's like an actual
00:03:31.100 American hero. He's a great guy, won the medal of honor. So the New York Times reports in a phone
00:03:37.660 interview on Wednesday, Mr. McLaughlin, 73, who had not seen the image before, a reporter sent it to him,
00:03:43.720 said that he interpreted it as Mr. Trump recognizing the dog's heroism, the paper reports.
00:03:50.980 He certainly was not offended and laughed when he compared the two images. Thank you,
00:03:55.200 New York Times, for getting to the bottom of this, calling up the actual medal of honor recipient.
00:04:00.220 They say, excuse me, sir, excuse me, you American hero who won the medal of honor. You great
00:04:05.000 example of an American man. Do you think dog memes are funny? Uh, yes, New York Times. I,
00:04:13.180 I think dog memes are funny. Okay. Thank you very much. We've got to get this out. Oh, stop the
00:04:17.480 presses. The medal of honor recipient believes that dog memes are funny. Then for the absolute best
00:04:23.420 one, wasn't Voice of America, wasn't the New York Times. It was the Washington Post. A White House
00:04:30.980 spokesman declined to comment. McLaughlin, 73, could not be reached for comment. Jeremy Boring,
00:04:37.760 the chief operating officer at the Daily Wire dismissed, emailed questions about whether the
00:04:44.660 altered photo originated from his publication.
00:04:51.040 By the altered photo, they mean the meme. And by the meme, we're referring to that image that the
00:04:56.160 president tweeted out, which had our watermark on it. It's not, it's not like hiding the question of
00:05:02.980 whether we made the meme. We're very proud of the meme. We're very happy that the president also has a
00:05:07.540 sense of humor. It says at the bottom, at real Daily Wire. It's us. You got us. But even the way
00:05:14.840 that WAPO describes it is not true. Jeremy did not dismiss questions about whether or not we made
00:05:22.000 the meme. And I know this because I saw the email interaction. Jeremy showed it to me. Here's the
00:05:27.420 interaction. Alex Horton from the Washington Post emails Jeremy Boring, COO of the Daily Wire.
00:05:34.240 Hello, I'm with the Washington Post and wanted to get confirmation this photo originated with you.
00:05:40.380 And if it did, that you digitally removed Medal of Honor recipient James McLaughlin and replaced him
00:05:44.400 with a dog. Then Jeremy responded to the Washington Post. Alex, on the record, you've got to be effing
00:05:52.080 joking. He spells it out. I can't because this is a family show. You've got to be effing joking.
00:05:58.320 Please quote me on that. Thanks, Jeremy. Jeremy Boring, COO of Daily Wire.
00:06:06.740 The easiest way to tell a fanatic is that they lack a sense of humor.
00:06:14.600 That's, that's why this matters. The easiest way. Look, this was a fun moment. Daily Wire tweeted
00:06:22.000 out this meme. It's a pretty funny meme. The president laughed at it. He tweeted it out too.
00:06:26.580 All the rancor in Washington. Maybe we could all just come together and have a little laugh.
00:06:32.760 The internet was made for dog memes. I guess maybe the Washington Post, they're sort of cat people
00:06:38.420 perhaps, but the internet was made for memes of silly looking animals. We can all come together
00:06:43.940 and beyond that, we can enjoy this, this critical defeat of ISIS. That would be nice, right?
00:06:50.980 The left can't do that. And the left is no, it's no longer that leftist politicians are leading the
00:06:59.280 media. Now, in many ways, the media are leading the leftist politicians, but all of them taken
00:07:03.000 together, the way you can tell they're fanatics, the way you can tell they've lost the narrative
00:07:08.700 is that they've lost their sense of humor. The left has become so fanatical in its hatred of
00:07:16.080 conservatives that they can't even laugh at a dog meme. In order to laugh, you need to have a sense
00:07:24.320 of humor. In order to have a sense of humor, you need to have a sense of proportion. You need to have
00:07:30.160 a sense of balance. You know, we could talk for hours about what makes something funny and there is
00:07:34.720 nothing, I assure you, there's nothing more hilarious than listening to somebody explain a joke,
00:07:38.520 but part of humor is incongruity. You see a really, really tall, thin guy next to a really,
00:07:47.000 really short, fat guy. Just that image alone is very funny. Why is it funny? Because of the
00:07:52.320 incongruity. How do you perceive incongruity? If you have a sense of proportion. You recognize that
00:07:57.880 those two proportions are way out of the norm and so that gets you to laugh. Frankly, the president
00:08:05.420 tweeting out a dog meme and the left losing its collective mind is very funny. It's funny to us.
00:08:11.300 The left is being funny. They just don't know they're being funny. Fanatics are not able to do
00:08:17.780 that. This is a problem, not just about one dog meme. It represents the left's biggest challenge
00:08:24.300 here. It represents, I think, why they're a little bit in trouble for 2020. We'll get to that in a
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00:10:19.540 So, the left has lost its sense of humor because the left has lost its sense of proportion.
00:10:27.380 This is true, not just in the press, not just in the mainstream media. It's true also in our
00:10:32.220 government. We've got some new information out about the so-called whistleblower, about the latest
00:10:37.320 attempt to overturn the 2016 presidential election and impeach President Trump. Real clear investigations
00:10:43.440 believes it has identified the whistleblower. This is a great contrast. You have Washington Post,
00:10:51.940 Democracy Dies in Barkness, talking about how they've got to get to the bottom of who made a dog
00:10:56.960 meme. And then you've got real clear investigations, which actually is going to show us something about
00:11:01.020 this whistleblower. They believe that the whistleblower is Matt Walsh. No, I'm joking. It's not Matt
00:11:08.240 Walsh, but the guy who they think it is looks a lot like Matt Walsh. You know, I knew Walsh was a
00:11:13.380 little lukewarm on the president. Didn't know he would overturn the election. This is what real
00:11:18.880 clear investigations believes. They believe it's a 33-year-old named Charamella, Eric Charamella.
00:11:25.620 He's a registered Democrat holdover from the Obama White House. He worked before that with Vice
00:11:30.200 President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan. Vocal critic of Donald Trump, he helped
00:11:35.400 initiate the Russia collusion investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
00:11:42.240 Charamella left the NSC. He was on the National Security Council. He left that in mid-2017. Why did
00:11:48.160 he leave? Because there were concerns that he was leaking to the media. That would appear to be
00:11:53.060 justified now. He then returned. After he leaves the White House, he returns to the CIA in Langley,
00:11:57.840 Virginia. He's accused of working against Trump and of leaking against Trump. So this is according to
00:12:03.980 officials on the NSC who were speaking on the condition of anonymity while discussing intelligence
00:12:09.600 matters. What else do we know about this guy? This guy actually was at Yale right around the same time
00:12:15.440 I was. He graduated in 2008. I got there in 2008. That tells me a lot about this guy because I knew a
00:12:24.320 whole lot of activist Democrats who thought that they were kings of the world, who went and immediately
00:12:29.540 started working in the swamp after college. And it, it shows you the real stakes of this impeachment.
00:12:38.720 Nobody elected Eric Charamella to be president. Nobody elected this 33 year old guy who's worked
00:12:45.280 in the bureaucracy and the intelligence community. People did elect Donald Trump, but this guy
00:12:50.900 reportedly, allegedly Eric Charamella, but whoever the whistleblower is, this guy believes that he knows
00:12:58.040 better than the American people. This guy believes that he has the right to elect whatever president
00:13:04.360 he wants. 330 million Americans be damned. Charamella, while he is out there going out to
00:13:13.420 try to uncover this, you know, Ukrainian collusion story, right before he goes and, and files the
00:13:21.060 complaint, he seeks guidance, guidance, quote unquote, from Adam Schiff. Why Adam Schiff? Why would he,
00:13:27.480 why does he have this cozy relationship with Democrats? Charamella worked with the DNC. He
00:13:32.120 worked with the DNC operative who dug up dirt on Trump during the 2016 election. He actually invited
00:13:36.720 her to the White House for meetings. That's according to former White House colleagues. This operative,
00:13:43.240 Alexandra Chalupa, is a Ukrainian American who tried to help Hillary Clinton. They led an effort to link
00:13:49.080 the Republican campaign, the Trump campaign to the Russian government. Another former coworker says he
00:13:55.000 knows her, he had her in the White House. This is what we're about to see. So what we're seeing
00:14:03.380 right now is the impeachment, the Ukrainian, the phone call. We don't really know what that's about.
00:14:07.820 I have said for a long time, impeachment is a defensive measure to exonerate Democrats early
00:14:16.480 or to mitigate the disaster of the upcoming investigations from the DOJ and from John Durham.
00:14:21.980 The investigations into what they did in the 2016 election. They're not giving up on this.
00:14:30.460 They will not give up. They won't admit that they lost. Bill Clinton on TV admitted that Hillary
00:14:37.140 Clinton might run for president again. She may or may not ever run for anything,
00:14:42.900 but I can't legally run for president again. So Bill Clinton, listen, the trouble with believing
00:14:48.700 Bill Clinton, of course, is he's occasionally been dishonest on national television before.
00:14:53.580 Now, listen, I'm telling you the truth here. I, I did not have, well, you know, you know how it
00:14:59.580 finishes. But he did have relations with those women and I don't think Hillary Clinton's going to run
00:15:05.220 again, but he's leaving the door open. He's leaving the door open as did her senior advisor,
00:15:10.940 Philip Raines, as did her campaign staff when they were talking to the New York Times.
00:15:17.820 Even now, after all of these years, Hillary's not willing to give up on the 2016 election. Neither
00:15:24.220 was this whistleblower. Neither are the people who insist that they know better than the American
00:15:30.800 people. All a cause for concern because I think the way the mainstream media portray this,
00:15:39.360 you have president Trump, this rogue, this monster, this guy who's going to institute world war three
00:15:43.940 and he's being held back and reined in by the good, glorious, hardworking men and women
00:15:50.280 of the intelligence community, the CIA or the bureaucracy or the state department. And thank
00:15:56.480 goodness for those guys, right? No. If real clear investigations is right, then the, the American
00:16:02.980 people who elected president Trump are being told to sit down and shut up by some 33 year old schmuck
00:16:09.160 from Yale who thinks he knows better than not just the American people, but the founding fathers
00:16:15.900 and the great institutions of our country, which have set up a method for electing the president.
00:16:21.200 Apparently this guy was involved in the first attempt to take Trump out because he knows better
00:16:26.280 he's masters of the universe in Washington DC, Hillary Clinton, all these years later, still
00:16:31.520 considering running, still going out there. You know, this takes us into other 2020 news because
00:16:42.140 we got bad news for Joe Biden. His polls are still falling. Democrats are still a little bit weak.
00:16:49.000 Actually there was that one poll out of the, uh, Boston Herald for New Hampshire. It showed that
00:16:55.620 you've got basically Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders rather all
00:17:00.980 tied in New Hampshire. But if Michelle Obama gets into the race, all of a sudden she's got 26%.
00:17:08.060 Liz Warren has 20. Biden and Bernie have 15%. Race totally changes. They want Michelle Obama,
00:17:15.060 except they don't really because everyone likes these candidates who are not in the race. In theory,
00:17:19.360 the minute they get in, their poll numbers drop. Just to remind you of this, Michelle Obama was going
00:17:24.020 out. She was answering a question at a Q and a, and she reminded us why she was so unlikable in
00:17:31.280 the white house in the first place. People doubted us coming through. Are you printed a material? Can
00:17:36.860 you really make the grade? Can you cut it? What do you do in those instances? All you can do is put
00:17:42.000 your head down and do the work and let the work, your truth speak for yourself. I can't make people
00:17:48.080 not afraid of not afraid of black people. I don't know what's going on. I can't explain what's
00:17:53.100 happening in your head. But maybe if I show up every day as a human, a good human doing wonderful
00:17:59.840 things, loving my family, loving your kids, taking care of things that I care about, maybe just maybe
00:18:07.060 that work will pick away at the scabs of your discrimination. And maybe that slowly will unravel it.
00:18:16.320 That's all we have because we can't do it for them because they're broken. Their brokenness
00:18:23.560 and how they see us is a reflection of their brokenness. And you can't fix that. All you can
00:18:29.640 do is the work. This is why Michelle Obama is a bad presidential candidate. This is why these polls
00:18:35.840 saying that she's going to get the nomination if she jumps in are just not true is people, people don't
00:18:40.320 really remember this, but she has the same problem as Hillary Clinton, which is she's bitter. She
00:18:46.380 doesn't like her fellow Americans. I mean, listen to this. This is the woman, the first black first
00:18:51.900 lady of the United States, wife to the first black president of the United States, elected not just
00:18:56.200 once but twice. All these years later talking about how Americans hate black people, how people
00:19:03.000 just hate black people and she doesn't get what she deserves and she's better than them and they're
00:19:08.440 broken, but she's not broken. Look, everybody's got original sin, but not Michelle Obama. No, she
00:19:14.820 is pure as the driven snow. Michelle Obama, so much better than all of us and how awful these Americans
00:19:20.900 are to, to what, to elect her husband twice. Same thing, you know, in, in 2008 when her husband got
00:19:27.660 elected, she very famously went on, on TV and said that the election of her husband was the first time
00:19:34.900 in her life that she was proud of her country. Let me tell you something. For the first time in my
00:19:40.880 adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country and not just because Barack has done well, but because
00:19:49.740 I think people are hungry for change. It's that bitterness. It's that entitlement. It's that total
00:19:57.040 lack of gratitude. It's that total lack of proportion. Same thing with Hillary. Hillary's had a lovely career.
00:20:03.900 The American people have been very good to the Clintons and it's the same thing. You owe me this.
00:20:08.760 I deserve to be president. I'm so angry. Michelle Obama, her husband gets elected president. She
00:20:14.920 doesn't say, wow, what a great country this is. Gosh, you know, maybe I was wrong about not being
00:20:20.020 proud of this country for my entire life because, you know, we, they just elected my husband. What a
00:20:24.920 great country. And my big knock on the country is that it's hopelessly bigoted, but then obviously it's
00:20:29.260 not because we just elected a black guy president. No, she doesn't say that. The left can't change
00:20:35.600 the narrative when new facts emerge. The left, when, when circumstances change that should delight
00:20:43.020 them, that give delight, that give surprise, that give a little bit of wonder, they can't accept that.
00:20:48.980 They can't have a good laugh and say, gosh, how lovely is that? So Michelle Obama says,
00:20:54.020 this is the first time in my life that I'm proud of my country. Doesn't not, didn't look happy when
00:21:01.040 she says it. Same thing. They elect her husband. They elect her husband a second time. America has
00:21:04.740 been very good to her. Gave her a bestselling book. She says, look, this country, they hate,
00:21:09.340 hates black people. People in this country, so many people hate black people and I didn't get what I
00:21:15.180 deserved and people were hard on me and my life is so terrible. But the woman went to Princeton. Then she
00:21:21.140 married this politician who goes on to become president. Then she gets a bestselling book. Michelle Obama
00:21:28.720 is one of the 0.0000000001% of luckiest, most privileged people in the history of the world. And still
00:21:42.040 she complains. Same with Hillary Clinton. Same exact thing. They can't change the narrative. Doesn't matter.
00:21:48.960 They could elect Michelle Obama president. They could elect Hillary Clinton president.
00:21:53.840 It'd still be bitter. It's that fanatic attitude. Now on the 2020 front, by the way, regardless of
00:22:00.940 whether those two get into the race, there is some breaking news out of Twitter, major move, which
00:22:04.620 shows that Twitter is going to ban all political advertising in 2020. And this is significant because
00:22:11.340 it's the opposite approach that Facebook is taking. Facebook is going to allow virtually all political
00:22:17.020 advertising. Now what the left wants to do is they want there to be political advertising,
00:22:22.900 but they only want it to advertise for left-wing candidates. So AOC with just last week was begging
00:22:28.960 Mark Zuckerberg, sort of browbeating him saying, why on earth are you going to elect conservatives
00:22:35.080 post advertising on Facebook? Why are you going to be in the way AOC couched this, which she said,
00:22:42.080 those conservatives are lying about us. You can't allow lies in political advertising. You need to
00:22:46.780 fact check the conservatives. And by the way, you can only partner up with left-wing fact checkers,
00:22:51.720 but you can't partner up with organizations like the Daily Caller. I mean, she was AOC during this,
00:22:57.140 in the same exact breath was saying, you need to fact check conservatives and all the fact checkers
00:23:01.720 have to be liberals. What they want is only political advertising for me, but not for thee.
00:23:11.360 Twitter is taking this opposite approach and they're saying no political advertising at all. It
00:23:14.760 doesn't matter as much for Twitter because their advertising tools aren't that good and political
00:23:20.100 ads make up only a small portion of their revenue. But I think Facebook has the better policy here. I
00:23:27.660 think we would be a better country if we adopted the Facebook policy, which is say whatever you want.
00:23:35.420 Make your argument. Have speech. Let's not forget in a self-governing republic, speech is politics.
00:23:42.240 Politics is speech. Go for it. It's yours. And if you make a bad argument, if you tell a lie,
00:23:49.560 you're going to be called out for it. What all of this shows is that the left does not feel
00:23:57.500 confident heading into this election cycle. Hillary Clinton does not believe that any of
00:24:03.880 the candidates out there are going to beat Trump. She thinks she's a better candidate than those
00:24:08.720 candidates out there. The Democratic primary voters, at least in New Hampshire, don't believe
00:24:13.060 that any of those candidates out there are going to beat Trump. That's why they're asking Michelle
00:24:16.760 Obama to jump into the race. AOC does not believe that they can win this battle on the merits.
00:24:23.060 That's why she's trying to get conservatives kicked off of Facebook. Twitter knows that the
00:24:29.400 left is going to be out of their mind anytime they let a conservative advertise anywhere, anytime they
00:24:34.900 let Trump advertise anywhere. So Twitter is just throwing up their hands. Jack Dorsey is saying,
00:24:38.620 please leave me out of this entirely.
00:24:44.920 Trump dominated social media in 2016. Conservatives are much better at social media than the left.
00:24:49.840 This is not just some empty boast. This is true across organic social media and paid social media.
00:24:58.320 Trump was the only one taking YouTube and Facebook seriously. Wasn't Russians. It wasn't
00:25:02.720 Macedonian click farms. It was actual strategies from the two campaigns. Trump beat Hillary on
00:25:08.420 social media. That's all it is. Why is the right so much better at social media and new media than
00:25:14.580 the left? Because the left relies on the legacy old media. The left has for decades. The old media has
00:25:22.580 been the great protector and gatekeeper for the left and they've kicked out right-wingers and they've
00:25:27.600 framed the narrative so in opposition to right-wingers. So the left has gotten lazy and complacent with the
00:25:33.820 legacy media. Now the legacy media are being virtually totally rejected. We just realized we're, we're
00:25:44.820 shutting out the mainstream media because the mainstream media have no credibility. You know,
00:25:50.260 the, the lack of credibility from the mainstream media allowed the growth of social. Then the growth
00:25:54.400 of social pretty much put the nail in the coffin of the mainstream media because we were able to get
00:25:58.360 some true information finally for once. A mainstream media that takes dog memes seriously is not a
00:26:05.120 mainstream media that can command our respect. And so you're seeing all of these angles intersect.
00:26:13.840 Trump tweets a dog meme, which triggers the mainstream media, which makes us all laugh at the
00:26:19.580 mainstream media, more reliant on the new media, which terrifies the left and the Democrats who call for
00:26:24.900 censorship on the new media. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. This is going to
00:26:30.720 get a lot more intense before it gets any lighter. And so much of the 2020 election is going to hinge
00:26:37.920 around that question of the relationship between the new media and the old media of whether the new
00:26:44.780 media are going to kick out the right, just like the old media did. As long as you're hearing talk of
00:26:51.100 candidate Michelle, candidate Hillary, you know that the Democrats, frankly, as long as you're hearing
00:26:56.080 talk of impeachment and whistleblowers and trying to overturn the 2016 election, even as we're heading
00:27:01.880 into the 2020 election, what that tells you is the left does not feel confident and they shouldn't feel
00:27:07.340 confident because they have lost the narrative. They have lost their sense of humor. They've lost their
00:27:12.140 sense of proportion and people out here living in reality are going to have a good laugh at them.
00:27:17.120 And they're going to go with the guys who are basing their campaigns in the truth, in reality,
00:27:23.980 in what we can see with our own eyes. They're going to vote for the guys who show the American
00:27:29.620 people a little bit of respect and don't keep throwing their finger up at them. Don't keep trying
00:27:35.940 to overturn their elections. Don't turn around to them and say, F you, F this, I've got the microphone.
00:27:40.920 And on that point, I was at Politicon over the, over the last weekend. And if you didn't catch the
00:27:47.600 debate, I, I strongly encourage that you do because it was extraordinarily fun for me to be up there.
00:27:53.740 And it shows you how desperate the left is to maintain their monopoly on information. I'm not
00:28:01.700 talking about Chris Hahn, who I was debating. Chris Hahn is the Fox News Democrat who theoretically was my
00:28:08.220 sparring partner here. Chris was fine. We had a nice exchange. The actual sparring partner in the
00:28:15.440 debate was Clay Aiken, who was supposed to be the moderator. And Clay, he's like a stand-in for the
00:28:20.420 mainstream media because he is obviously a very left-wing Democrat. He ran for office as a Democrat,
00:28:25.900 but he comes out there and pretends to be objective. And within a few moments, just completely loses his
00:28:31.760 mind, starts swearing at people. We actually summed it up. If you haven't caught the debate,
00:28:36.140 we summed it up in a very short episode of it's always sunny in Philadelphia, which we're calling
00:28:42.760 Clay Aiken controls the debate.
00:28:45.360 I'm asking the question. So hold on a second. Hold on a second. I'm asking the questions.
00:28:50.020 All right. Feel free to try to control it, but you won't get there.
00:28:55.440 I want to know what can be done. I'm not one of them. I'm asking you what can be done about climate
00:29:01.620 change. I'm pretty ignorant about the whole argument myself, I'll admit. I'm asking you,
00:29:05.580 what should we do? Unless you want to cede the ground to Democrats to be the ones who come up
00:29:10.860 with ideas, are people who are marching and shouting Jews will not replace us, are they good
00:29:15.320 people? It's a yes or no question. Yes or no. No, it's a yes or no question. Are people who are
00:29:20.440 marching shouting Jews will not replace us, are they good people? Can you say yes or no to this? Are you
00:29:24.660 capable of that? I don't need to answer a question because I'm not on the stage. No, I did not ask you if
00:29:28.860 Nazis were bad. And I understand those are big words. People who don't like Jews, people who are
00:29:32.180 Nazis are bad people. That's not what I asked you. I've answered this five times. No, you haven't.
00:29:37.080 You're rewording. I think we'll be able to find that I didn't. You're rewording. I feel so bad for
00:29:40.380 you. I feel so badly for you. It's very easy to play a victim. You can boo all you want to. I don't
00:29:47.160 give a half a f***ing s***. I asked a yes or no question. Does President Trump lie? Yes or no?
00:29:53.400 Before you start, since clearly the audience thinks I'm biased, we're going to let them ask some
00:29:58.800 questions too. Well, I may be a hack, but I've got a f***ing microphone.
00:30:04.520 That's what the left is doing to us. That's what the mainstream media are doing to us right now. And
00:30:09.560 I don't think that's a position of strength. I think that is great news for us and we can smile
00:30:17.200 and have a good laugh and have a sense of humor. And we're not just laughing at dog memes, folks.
00:30:22.340 We're laughing at Clay Aiken. We're laughing at that whole mainstream media apparatus. We've got to get to
00:30:27.940 the mailbag. We'll get to that in a second, but first I'm going to say goodbye to Facebook and
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00:30:52.000 very important. As the New York Times and the Washington Post do their hard investigative work
00:30:59.160 to figure out the origin of dog memes, you and I can sit there and lap up those salty tears.
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00:31:05.880 All right, we're back. Let's get through as much of the mailbag as we possibly can from Heather.
00:31:22.600 How do we reconcile our moral obligation as Christians to care for the widow, the orphans,
00:31:27.760 the poor with the desire to not have our tax dollars funding inadequate and abused social
00:31:33.880 programs? Thanks. The way that we do that is that we care for the widow and the orphans and the poor.
00:31:42.560 We don't just give our money to the government. Giving your, what the left has done,
00:31:49.420 if pretty effectively actually, is convinced you that giving your money to the government
00:31:54.440 is the same thing as caring for the widow, the orphans, and the poor. But it's not.
00:31:59.560 It's extraordinarily inefficient. It, most of that money, much if not most of that money is just
00:32:08.180 eaten up by the Washington bureaucracy. Some of it will go toward programs that will then be
00:32:13.800 directed toward the poor that very often harm the very people that they were intended to help.
00:32:18.520 This is the premise of the Moynihan Report. This is what turned so many liberals into conservatives
00:32:22.540 in the late 20th centuries. They realized that those federal welfare programs actually ended up
00:32:29.500 harming the people they were intended to help. Charity and taxation are very different things
00:32:35.160 because there's also a moral, a moral interaction here. I think Dinesh D'Souza summed this up.
00:32:40.920 He said, if I'm walking down the street and I see a, a bum lying on the street, I'm eating a sandwich
00:32:47.860 and he says, Hey, can I have that sandwich? I'm hungry. If I give him that sandwich,
00:32:53.320 there's a moral interaction here. He's asking for some help. He's asking for charity. I give him
00:33:00.200 that charity. He is grateful for that charity. I have engaged in an act of charity. That's a moral
00:33:05.900 exchange. If however, I'm walking down the street with my sandwich and the bum says, Hey, gimme, gimme.
00:33:12.100 And then Barack Obama rides up on a white horse with a pistol pointed at my head and he says,
00:33:16.240 give him the sandwich. That is not a moral exchange at all. I resent the beggar and
00:33:24.660 Barack Obama for stealing my food. The beggar feels entitled to my food. He doesn't feel gratitude.
00:33:30.880 He feels entitled to it because Obama said it's his right. And Obama has done nothing other than
00:33:34.960 threaten me with a gun. That's not a moral exchange at all, but that's what taxation looks like. So
00:33:40.220 engage in charity and try to get the government's hands out of your pockets. From Evan, dear skinny boy,
00:33:46.640 is it all right for parents to enforce a candy tax upon their young children who go trick-or-treating?
00:33:52.520 I think this act will help create children
00:33:54.660 who believe that taxation is theft. I would love to hear your thoughts. I think that's a really good
00:34:01.180 way to get your children to hate you. I don't know if it's a great way to teach them about taxation.
00:34:06.660 Let the kids have Halloween. This used to always bug me when I was a kid. When I would go out,
00:34:14.740 I'd go trick-or-treating and then some house would give us an apple. I don't want an apple.
00:34:20.440 Halloween is not for apples. Halloween is for candy. Halloween is so that little kids can glut
00:34:25.560 themselves on candy because it's a day of a little bit of mischief and we live in a very rich country and
00:34:32.180 candy is delicious and kids like candy. No raisins, no apples, no lessons. This is the other
00:34:38.660 one. You'd go out trick-or-treating and for some of my friends, their parents would like take their
00:34:44.180 candy and they'd inspect it for razor blades because some suburban mother saw some news report
00:34:52.060 from some fake journalist that there was this epidemic of weirdos giving, putting razor blades
00:34:57.280 into kids candy. That doesn't happen. How many times has that happened in history? Like three
00:35:02.140 times? Don't do that. The kids get Halloween. They should be able to go out trick-or-treating.
00:35:06.860 They should get a lot of candy. They don't need to learn lessons about taxation. The way to teach
00:35:11.340 your kids to be good American citizens is to raise them well, to respect you, to like you,
00:35:19.660 to take your ideas seriously. And I promise you, if you take their candy away from them,
00:35:24.040 they will not respect you. They will not like you. I fear they will become huge reactionary
00:35:29.340 liberals. From Al, if the UN and NATO and the G7 don't work, how can freedom-minded countries get
00:35:36.800 together or is that a thing of the past? Thanks. Get together for what? What are we going to get
00:35:45.860 together for? Are we just going to go out and play golf? What, this is the question when we talk about
00:35:50.380 NATO, for instance, what is the purpose of NATO? NATO was formed in the mid-20th century to protect
00:35:58.300 Western European countries and American allies broadly who support freedom and oppose communism
00:36:06.260 to protect them from the Soviet Union. NATO is an institution built for the Cold War. The Cold War
00:36:14.400 is over. The Cold War has been over since 1990. So now what? What are we doing? I'm not saying we
00:36:23.880 need to disband NATO tomorrow, but we need to at least know what the purpose of it is. What's the
00:36:28.460 purpose of the UN? Is that to protect freedom-loving countries? No, the vast majority of member states
00:36:32.520 of the UN are the worst people on earth. The UN lets all sorts of terrible people in. There's no such
00:36:40.260 thing as the United Nations though. What is the United Nations? We all come together, paid for by
00:36:45.660 the United States on really nice real estate in Manhattan, and then all the worst people on earth
00:36:50.700 lecture America on how terrible we are, and we pay for that too, and then we send them home.
00:36:55.520 That doesn't accomplish anything. To quote John Bolton, there is no such thing as the United Nations.
00:37:01.660 It doesn't matter. We could build the building 20 stories taller. There still would be no such thing
00:37:06.080 as the United Nations. There is the international community. There are the nations of the world,
00:37:13.260 and there is the national interest of the United States. When those things intersect,
00:37:20.860 I am more than happy to work with every nation on earth. But when those don't intersect,
00:37:28.620 then what are we doing? Charles de Gaulle said that nations don't have friends, they have interests.
00:37:35.420 This seems cold-blooded to some people, but it's not. It's just true. Nations are not exactly like
00:37:43.080 people. We have relationships, we have alliances, but nations have interests over time.
00:37:50.540 Same thing. What is the G7? What is the point of the G7? What we should do is support our allies
00:37:56.060 and pursue our interests and be smart about it and not imprison ourselves into a foreign policy that
00:38:05.380 made sense 100 years ago, but doesn't make sense today. That's the purpose. I mean, the purpose of
00:38:10.800 all of these institutions is to advance national interests. If there's no national interest to
00:38:14.640 advance, I don't think we need to pay a whole lot of attention to those organizations.
00:38:19.340 From anonymous, I go to law school at Georgetown University Law Center. Now I see why you wanted
00:38:26.480 to remain anonymous. You can't out yourself for listening to this show or to anything to the
00:38:32.040 right of Hillary Clinton. I go to law school at Georgetown University Law Center, just received
00:38:36.100 an email telling me that I will be paying a reparations fee next fall to establish a fund
00:38:42.580 to support our descendants. I knew nothing of this before coming there. How is this reconcilable
00:38:50.880 with Title IX? What action would you recommend? Thanks. That is really bizarre. I had not heard
00:38:57.640 anything about that, but I'm not surprised that universities would put in a reparations fee
00:39:02.580 or any other manner of social justice tax applied unfairly to benefit certain students. If I were you,
00:39:10.940 I would not pay it. And if they yell at you about it, which I don't think they will do,
00:39:16.660 I think they'll just let it go. If they go after you for it, I would just tell them very politely
00:39:23.620 that you're here to be educated and you're here to learn about the law and you're not here to engage
00:39:28.640 in any sort of social justice left-wing activism. And if they kick you out for that, well, I don't
00:39:33.900 know, go to Antonin Scalia School of Law or something like that. This is especially important for law
00:39:40.920 school because as a lawyer, your integrity is so essential to the job. Who you are, the decisions
00:39:50.100 you make in your life is so essential. It's a little different than a kid who's just trying to
00:39:54.120 squeeze through an undergraduate class so he keeps his head down a little bit.
00:39:57.800 If you're a lawyer, then you are participating in the legal community. You might run for office.
00:40:02.080 You are presenting yourself as in your work life, relying upon your integrity. So I would not
00:40:11.760 compromise that in law school because if you compromise in law school, you're going to
00:40:15.460 compromise the rest of your career. There are plenty of lawyers who compromise their integrity,
00:40:18.920 but you don't want to be one of them. From Dylan, dear charismatic conqueror,
00:40:23.660 I watched your double debate at Politicon in which you debated the liberal Chris Hahn and the
00:40:29.000 moderator whose identity is irrelevant. I was wondering how you were able to stay composed,
00:40:34.180 be charming and charismatic while also staying on topic. Go on, stop it. I know, go, what do you
00:40:42.480 really think? Thank you for the question and the compliment. The, I did get a few versions of this
00:40:49.640 question over the past week, most of which just said, when you've got these two liberals screaming in
00:40:55.360 your face, how can you not get angry? Why would I get angry? People get angry when they know they're
00:41:02.180 losing the argument. I mean, there is, there is a place for righteous anger. If someone goes up and
00:41:07.140 calls your wife fat and calls your son stupid, then I guess you can punch him in the face. But
00:41:11.760 most of the time, if you're having a political debate, if you're having a debate about something
00:41:17.540 objective, you know, outside of yourself, something that isn't really personal,
00:41:21.740 if you have a good argument, if you're confident in your argument, then you don't need to yell and
00:41:28.860 name call and become all sort of angry. The left has lost the sense of this. One, because they've
00:41:35.280 lost the argument and two, because of a change that happened in the 1960s. In the 1960s, the left
00:41:40.980 decided that the personal is the political. This became a major slogan of the feminist movement and
00:41:47.360 it was adopted by other left-wingers as well. What that means is that we need to eradicate the
00:41:53.780 traditional difference in our republic between the public and the private. But free government,
00:42:00.480 self-government, relies upon this distinction between the public and the private. Meaning,
00:42:07.300 I've got my family life, I have my personal endeavors, and then I put on my suit and I
00:42:13.800 finish up my tie, and I go out, and I do the business of the people. And those are different
00:42:19.860 things. And so, while you might have some personal animosity towards somebody, you let that go in
00:42:25.540 public. Or, vice versa, when you, if you have a public relationship with somebody, you have a
00:42:32.880 different relationship in private. That vanished with the left. The left made the personal the
00:42:38.720 political, to the great detriment of self-government. I don't take these things personally. I've worked
00:42:43.940 as an actor. I've worked in politics. That's a blood sport. So, you just take the hits and,
00:42:50.380 and you move on. If you're, if you're taking these things personally, if you're really getting heated,
00:42:55.640 maybe it's because you don't quite understand what you're saying, and you don't quite understand
00:43:00.820 what the other guys say. From Jasmine, recently you said rap was the devil's music. I couldn't quite
00:43:06.540 tell if that was in jest or a true opinion of yours. Much of the rap genre is excreble,
00:43:11.920 but there is a lot of good Christian rap. Many of the artists in the clip you played were Christian
00:43:17.420 rappers. Was that intentional or not? Thanks. I don't remember the clip. I'm not sure I even
00:43:22.280 pulled it myself. Rap is terrible. It's just awful. And it almost certainly is the devil's music,
00:43:27.660 but God makes a habit of confounding the devil's plans as he did in Kanye West's recent album,
00:43:34.060 which is very, very good. I have almost never found a rap song that I liked. There have been a
00:43:42.040 couple, I guess. I've found, I will say I've found more rap songs that I like than contemporary
00:43:47.720 Christian songs that I like. I consider those contemporary Christian songs to just be absolutely
00:43:52.260 awful, saccharine, twaddle, ridiculous, insipid, terrible, terrible music, which is why I was so
00:44:01.680 surprised by Kanye's album because I felt Kanye's album actually took religion seriously. It took
00:44:08.100 the human condition seriously, more seriously than most. If you like these modern songs though,
00:44:13.480 I hope you're not offended. I don't like most popular music. It's just really decayed. It's
00:44:20.340 really awful. This is actually kind of my feeling about liturgy, my feeling about church services,
00:44:25.720 my feeling about the mass. I don't like the modern ones with the acoustic guitars and the sappy
00:44:31.820 seventies hymns that weren't even cool 40 years ago because they're not beautiful. They're not that
00:44:38.380 beautiful at least. Classical liturgy, traditional worship services are much more beautiful.
00:44:48.040 The typical response to this is, oh Michael, you old fuddy-duddy, come on. The people are
00:44:54.420 listening to the popular music. Yeah, I know that. I know that more people listen to Miley Cyrus than
00:45:00.120 listen to Bach, for instance. Bach is more beautiful than Miley Cyrus. And therefore, when I'm
00:45:10.540 engaging in worship, when I'm in a liturgy or I'm in the mass, I want the beautiful thing. I want the
00:45:17.460 beautiful thing in all facets of life. That does require a little bit of cultivation and understanding.
00:45:23.480 It's much harder to understand what Bach is doing than what Miley Cyrus is doing.
00:45:27.980 But that's some of the work that we have to do in the culture. And so when we win the culture,
00:45:33.640 it doesn't just mean that we need to have the best memes, that we need to have the funniest jokes. I
00:45:38.000 mean, that's important too. It also means that we need to work on elevating the culture from this
00:45:42.400 degraded level of pop and kitsch. We need to work on elevating that and elevating our understanding.
00:45:48.440 It will make us all chill out a lot more. It will reduce anxiety, reduce stress, reduce people
00:45:53.460 screaming at you in political debates. It will make you understand much better what everybody is
00:45:57.960 saying. And it will make you feel just at least a touch of that awe and wonder for that which is
00:46:04.860 beautiful. Because that which is beautiful is connected to that which is good and that which is
00:46:08.860 true. That's how you win the culture. You also win the culture with funny dog memes. That's
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