Ep. 454 - Quid Pro No
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Another day, another impeachment witness affirms that President Trump committed no quid pro quo with Ukraine. Of course, you wouldn t know that from the front pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post. Then, speaking of spin and lies, the Democrats returned to the stage for this month s primary debate and I watched every agonizing moment of it. A high school girl cries after her school district forces her to undress in front of boys. And finally, the mailbag.
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Another day, another impeachment witness affirms that President Trump committed no quid pro quo with Ukraine.
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Of course, you wouldn't know that from the front pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post.
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Then, speaking of spin and lies, the Democrats returned to the stage for this month's presidential primary debate.
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A high school girl cries after her school district forces her to undress in front of boys.
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I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Okay, here's what you've read in the newspapers today.
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Well, you haven't because you don't read the New York Times and the Washington Post because you are an educated person.
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But this is what most people are reading in the newspapers today.
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The Washington Post, Sondland links Trump administration to pressure campaign on Ukraine.
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Diplomat says there was a quid pro quo, a White House meeting if Ukraine opened probes into Joe Biden.
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Sondland's bombshell testimony leaves Trump's GOP allies scrambling.
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Scrambling, they are, like scurrying like mice on Capitol Hill.
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If you read those headlines, what you would conclude from that is that Trump engaged in a quid pro quo, whatever that is.
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That's been the latest accusation that they've hurled at Trump.
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Really, all we've had for this whole impeachment probe is that there's been sort of nebulous wrongdoing.
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Nobody can point to a high crime or misdemeanor.
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But they just, he did something wrong, he's got to leave office.
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If you read those headlines, it would be impossible not to conclude that Trump committed an impeachable offense unless you had greater context or unless you had actually watched the testimony.
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Unvarnished, no interpretive lens of the mainstream media.
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What did Gordon Sondland, the big ambassador to the European Union, the big witness yesterday for the Democrats, what did Sondland actually say about Trump?
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He said repeatedly and explicitly that Trump told him not to engage in a quid pro quo with Ukraine.
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My testimony is, I never heard from President Trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections.
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Again, I don't recall President Trump ever talking to me about any security assistance, ever.
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Did the president ever tell you personally about any preconditions for anything?
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Okay, so the president never told you about any preconditions for the aid to be released?
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The president never told you about any preconditions for a White House meeting?
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But I believe I just asked him an open-ended question, Mr. Chairman, what do you want from Ukraine?
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I keep hearing all these different ideas and theories and this and that.
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That last clip, by the way, was to Adam Schiff, who's running this whole charade.
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The only contradiction in there worth noting is that at the very beginning of the clip,
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Sondland said, I never heard those words, quid pro quo from the president.
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And then later on, he says, I actually did hear those words when later he told me explicitly,
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The Democrats, at least in the latest iteration, obviously they've been trying to impeach him
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for three years, but the latest version is Trump committed a quid pro quo.
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Therefore, we need to remove President Trump from office.
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If that's the Democrats' argument, then you just heard from the guy, from the ambassador
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to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, Trump told me explicitly, do not engage in a quid
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And that was only after I testified that we didn't even talk about security concerns.
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But then when the aid was brought up, he said, do not engage in a quid pro quo.
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That's, that would be the conclusion of any reasonable person.
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So what's the conclusion of Democrat Adam Schiff?
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Because I think today's testimony, uh, is among the most significant evidence to date.
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Uh, and what we have just heard from Ambassador Sondland is that the knowledge of this scheme,
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this conditioning, uh, of the White House meeting of the security assistance to get the
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deliverable, the president wanted these two political investigations that he believed would
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help his reelection campaign was a basic quid pro quo.
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After, after he says, Trump never told me to engage in a quid pro quo.
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There never were preconditions for the White House meeting.
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And oh, by the way, he told me explicitly no quid pro quo.
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Your conclusion is, yeah, there was basically a quid pro quo.
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Basically, when you really think about it, when you really look deep, deep down, it looks
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And what he is relying on is that no one is watching the testimony itself.
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What he's relying on is that no one's going to play those clips so that you hear it unvarnished.
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What he's hoping is that people are just going to watch clips of politicians talking about
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Adam Schiff realizes that the majority of Americans are not paying attention to this.
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A huge number of Americans, I think it's like 35%, haven't heard anything about the impeachment.
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So he is going to try to convey his narrative, which contradicts reality.
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There's a most one clip yesterday from the testimony that Democrats are hanging their
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hats on and saying, see, there's evidence of a quid pro quo.
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Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker, and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at
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the express direction of the president of the United States.
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Simply put, we were playing the hand we were dealt.
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We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose a very important
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opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine.
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They didn't want to work with Mr. Giuliani, but they did.
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The, the implication, what Adam Schiff is using to say that there was a basic quid pro quo is
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that the employees of the federal government, the diplomats were forced to work with the
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Therefore, the president obviously had a personal interest in getting Ukraine to investigate
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Therefore, this is evidence in and of itself of a quid pro quo.
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So when we're talking about the role of Rudy Giuliani here, I think it's perfectly valid
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Why is the president sending his personal lawyer here?
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When we're talking about the role of Rudy Giuliani through Joe Biden being investigated, I think
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it's perfectly valid to say an investigation of Joe Biden could potentially give some help
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Now I'm not totally convinced of that because I don't think Joe Biden is anywhere near the
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actual front runner in this race for the democratic primary.
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I don't think there's a very good chance that Joe Biden is going to get the nomination anyway.
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So I don't think it would provide Trump a lot of help, but let's just go with all of that.
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Compare that information to what we've seen in the past, not just two weeks, not just two
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years, but really since Trump started running for office, there is a concerted effort in
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the federal bureaucracy, the deep state to undermine the president's policy agenda.
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You heard Lieutenant Colonel Vindman yesterday say that he's, Vindman is the one who makes
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The interagency makes policy and the president better just go along with it.
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And if the president's not going to go along with it, we're going to throw him out of office.
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So you've got this, this attempted coup that's been going on for three years to overturn the
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presidential election and overturn the policies of the president of the United States duly elected.
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Don't you think it makes sense that president Trump would put his own, his own guys in there
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just to oversee things, to make sure that everything's going all right.
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Now, is that, is that how the government should operate?
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No, but should the deep state bureaucrats also be overturning the policies of the president
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Now, even further, if you want the absolute end of it all, Sondland says, look, there was
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I was told not to engage in a quid pro quo, but I was told to work with Giuliani and that's
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So if, if that's an issue here, why did Sondland not clarify all of this in his opening statement?
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If there is any question at all of improper conduct of a quid pro quo, why did Ambassador
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Sondland not put it in his 23 page opening statement and just say, hey, by the way, guys,
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Why didn't you put that statement in your opening statement?
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Said we might be here for 46 minutes instead of 45 minutes.
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The most important statement about the subject matter at hand.
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The president unites in a direct conversation with you about the issue at hand.
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And the president says, let me read it one more time.
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I want this new guy, brand new guy in politics.
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I want him to run on and do what he ran on, which is deal with corruption.
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And you can't find time to fit that in a 23 page opening statement.
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Okay, this line of Sondland's that he just didn't have time.
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You know, he was busy, he had to go run to the gym or something, so he didn't have time
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What I suspect here, and again, this is pure conjecture, is that Sondland didn't like the
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Maybe he didn't like the way that the Ukraine issue was being handled.
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Maybe the Ukraine issue wasn't being handled in the same way as is traditional, as you
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I think that's what's getting at the heart of it here.
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When you're talking about the left-right divide, when you're talking about the bureaucracy versus
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elected divide, I think you are getting down to an argument about policy.
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And some people don't like the way that the president is conducting policy.
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You can run for president, and then you can get elected, and you can have whatever policy
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The American people need to be able to run their own government, and the American people
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run their government through their duly elected representatives, not through bureaucrats, not
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If there were evidence that the president committed an impeachable offense here, I think we would
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I think we would have heard it by now after, what, the fifth or sixth star key witness.
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But instead, what we heard from Sondland exonerates the president.
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And yet, I guarantee you it's going to go on and on and on.
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I think the debate last night among the Democrats helps Trump in the 2020 election.
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I think they want this to continue to go on, because the more this impeachment charade goes
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You've got the whole charade on impeachment, basically a distraction to try to hurt Trump
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Then you've got the affirmative case for Democrats being made at the Democratic presidential
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primary debates, a sort of frontrunner, erstwhile frontrunner, Joe Biden collapsing on stage,
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So Biden opens up the debate, making the case, his case for the presidency, as it has always
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Unfortunately, he was barely able to get the words out.
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Well, look, the next president of the United States is going to have to do two things.
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And number two, he's going to have to be able to go into states like Georgia and North Carolina
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Who is most likely to be able to win the nomination in the first place, to win the presidency in
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OK, I would suggest, humbly, respectfully, the candidate most likely to get the nomination
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in the first place and then beat Donald Trump is going to be the candidate who can form a
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He's also just kind of a doofus and has been a doofus for his whole political career as early
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You can't blame age in 1988 when Biden was still a young man.
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So the whole argument saying, look, I'm the most electable candidate.
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It only works if you have any energy on the campaign trail.
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It only works if you can actually make your case.
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When he could speak, it was even worse than when he couldn't speak.
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Joe Biden was asked a question about domestic abuse, what we're going to do about domestic
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I kid you not, his answer was he was going to punch the issue hard and hard and hard.
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And so we have to just change the culture, period, and keep punching at it and punching
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We're not going to talk to it reasonably or respectfully.
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We're going to punch it until it does what we tell it to do.
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And he actually, in Joe's defense, went into the debate with a serious handicap, which is
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he got bombshell news about three hours before the debate that his son, Hunter Biden, had
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fathered a child out of wedlock with a 26-year-old woman in Arkansas, I believe.
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A DNA testing established with scientific certainty that Hunter Biden is the father of an Arkansas
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Hunter Biden had met this young woman, London Alexis Roberts, while she was a student at George
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Biden was still not divorced from his own wife, now, why does this matter?
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Am I just mentioning this to point out what an absolute degenerate Hunter Biden is?
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This has been a major hit for the Biden campaign. It's been, the impeachment story has been a major
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hit for the Biden campaign. You know, it actually all relates to impeachment because Ambassador Sondland
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was asked by this Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney, Democrat who I actually know. I worked on a campaign
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against him back in olden years. Sean Maloney, pretty good politician, little oily, little unctuous,
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but he's, he's very good at being a politician. It's about the worst thing you can say about
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somebody. Sean Patrick Maloney asks Gordon Sondland, he said, who would have been helped
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by a Ukrainian investigation into Joe Biden? And Sondland is expected to say, and he does say
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eventually, that this would help Trump. I don't know that it helps Trump. I think Joe Biden is doing
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a good enough job destroying his campaign on his own. I don't think an investigation would
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really help them that much. I think Joe Biden's campaign is intrinsically flawed and his other
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candidates on the stage, the other Democrats actually had a pretty good night at Joe's expense.
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but your 50 billionth and first dollar, you got to pitch in two cents. And when you hit a billion
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dollars, you got to pitch in a few pennies more. Two cents. It's just two cents, right? She uses that
00:28:18.700
word throughout the debate, two cents. I don't think she knows what the word cent means. What she's
00:28:24.480
saying is there will be a 2% wealth tax. She also keeps confusing millionaires and billionaires in
00:28:28.620
there, but two cents is not two cents when you're talking about say a billion dollars. Two cents is
00:28:37.220
$20 million every single year. And what's difficult about this is that people don't just keep piles of
00:28:43.120
cash. What they do is they have their money in different investments. So what you could get into
00:28:47.060
a situation here is that these millionaires and billionaires have to start liquidating their assets,
00:28:54.800
actually selling off their assets just to pay the government, which has come into their door with a
00:28:58.520
gun in their hands and saying, give us your money, stick them up. The trouble is also, you've got a $52
00:29:02.740
trillion health plan Liz Warren is pushing. The total combined wealth of every billionaire in the
00:29:09.780
United States. There are 621 of them. The combined wealth is like $3.3 trillion, something like that.
00:29:16.520
So you could confiscate all their wealth, take the shirt off their back. You wouldn't be able to pay
00:29:20.340
for one year of Liz Warren's health plan. You'd get through 65% of one year. Then what? Then what do
00:29:26.720
you do? It's not just two cents. You've already taken all their money. Now what are you supposed to do?
00:29:31.020
Obviously those taxes are going to hit the middle class. She had a relatively fine night. She didn't
00:29:35.100
really improve, but she's, she's a decent candidate compared to the other jokers on the stage.
00:29:40.400
Cory Booker had an okay night. He did better than he usually does. Still probably not going anywhere.
00:29:44.940
Pete Buttigieg had a very strong night. He didn't make too many mistakes. He got into a fight with
00:29:49.760
Tulsi Gabbard and basically won it. He's moving up the polls in Iowa. He's moving up the polls in New
00:29:55.680
Hampshire. He said a while ago that the race was going to come down to Buttigieg and Warren. I think
00:29:59.340
there's a fair chance he might be right. We will get to a really disturbing story about
00:30:04.360
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00:31:02.240
back with a lot more. Really disturbing story coming out of Palatine High School in Northwest
00:31:18.720
Illinois. Board members voted to give unrestricted locker room and restroom access to transgender students.
00:31:25.740
The board voted this way in a meeting attended by 500 people. Why did they do this? Because a
00:31:33.240
transgender student, meaning a boy pretending to be a girl, he identifies as Nova Mayday. That's his
00:31:40.180
name that he created. He filed one of two lawsuits against the high school in 2017. We actually have
00:31:48.320
some video of the scene after the vote. This young man was all smiles, grinning ear to ear, so happy
00:31:58.560
that he will now be able to go into the girls' locker room and the school will now force young
00:32:03.720
girls to undress in front of this man, in front of this post-pubescent man. You get the video of him
00:32:12.780
gloating about it and you get a video of a girl crying because she will now be forced to get naked
00:32:17.920
in front of boys in her school. This is where transgenderism ideology has led. Check it out.
00:32:25.400
I'm really hoping they vote for it. It's definitely going to be a step forward in progress. I'm really
00:32:34.340
excited if they vote for it. A bit nervous, though, as always, just you never know. But it's definitely
00:32:42.460
a first step forward in many more steps. It's a great policy. Unfortunately, it's not everything we want,
00:32:50.460
such as talking about even the small things like changing the name on your student ID, which you're
00:32:56.940
required to wear at all times. So I'm really hoping that the district makes the right decision here
00:33:03.200
and votes it. Yeah, it passed. It passed. And how does that make you feel? Oh, I'm ecstatic.
00:33:18.260
I feel uncomfortable that my privacy is being invaded. As I am a swimmer, I do change multiple
00:33:29.440
times naked in front of the other students in the locker room. And I understand that the
00:33:37.380
board has an obligation to all students, but I was hoping that they would go about this
00:33:42.420
in a different way that would also accommodate students such as myself.
00:33:46.580
This is so profoundly screwed up. This is so disturbing. This is exactly what we all predicted.
00:33:56.240
We talked about this yesterday. Conservatives always predict what will happen on the so-called
00:34:01.640
slippery slope. And then leftists tell us that we're just hysterical. We're crazy. It's not going
00:34:07.480
to happen. And then it happens. And they say, oh, come on, get over it. It's no big deal.
00:34:10.800
Men should not be allowed into the girls' locker room. Girls should not be forced to get naked in
00:34:20.400
front of men. This is a fact. This is simple enough. This is a gross miscarriage of justice
00:34:28.520
that's going on at this high school. So much for feminism. And I don't even like feminism. So much
00:34:36.300
for traditional social norms. So much for chivalry. The age of chivalry really is gone when a man is
00:34:43.440
going to force his way in to watch women get naked in a locker room. Adults are permitting this.
00:34:51.840
Adults are enforcing this. All of these adults on the school board and the school administrators
00:34:58.940
who push for this, all of them should lose their jobs. All of them should be ostracized from polite
00:35:03.600
society. This is profoundly wrong. The law is clearly moving in this direction because leftism
00:35:14.500
is advancing. So-called social justice. There's no actual justice here. There's only injustice.
00:35:21.420
We must push back against this through all social means that we possibly can. What has happened here
00:35:29.060
is horrible. Every school board member should be absolutely deprived of belonging to polite society.
00:35:38.740
All of them. They should, they should not be permitted in polite society. We need to keep up
00:35:43.020
the pressure campaign. What the left wants to do is just say, look, we got it. We got this win here.
00:35:48.280
We got this win there. Go along. It's okay. Be inclusive. Be nice. Be tolerant. No, don't give up
00:35:54.500
on this issue. This issue. This is outrageous what's going on. These issues are going to make
00:35:58.840
it up to the Supreme Court. We need to make sure that when it does get up to the Supreme Court,
00:36:02.660
we've already got a few cases like it at the court, that the right decision comes out. The court
00:36:06.840
follows public opinion. The court pays attention to elections. The court looks at the protests that
00:36:12.500
are going out outside the courthouse on those very days. If you adhere to this gender ideology,
00:36:19.700
then you are forcing young girls to get naked in front of post-pubescent men in locker rooms.
00:36:26.980
And every one of those tears that those little girls are crying, justifiably so, is on you.
00:36:34.220
All right, let's get to the mailbag. First question from Ashley. Michael, if you could construct an
00:36:40.140
ark to preserve man's greatest works of art and literature, what would be the first three things
00:36:46.180
that you would put in there after the Bible? I would put in Shakespeare, I would put in Dante,
00:36:51.940
and I would put in Homer. Those would be the first three works of art and literature.
00:36:58.100
I would put in other, if we're including philosophy and nonfiction works and histories,
00:37:04.060
I would put in other works, but Shakespeare, Dante, and Homer. By the way, if you read those three
00:37:07.280
things, you will have a very good sense of Western literature. From Bryce. Michael, how do you
00:37:12.820
distinguish between patriotism and jingoism? What can conservatives with temperance do to balance
00:37:19.120
love of country with mindless crowdthink? By jingoism here, you mean this extreme excessive
00:37:25.580
patriotism. Another word that could be used for this is chauvinism. There's a big difference between
00:37:31.900
love of country and chauvinism or jingoism. Chauvinism comes from a real person or at least a real
00:37:39.100
apocryphal story. I know that sounds like a contradiction in terms, but from a person
00:37:44.460
that the French people believed was real, though he might've just been a legend, Nicolas Chauvin.
00:37:48.980
They believe he was born around 1780. He enlisted in the military at age 18. He served honorably. He
00:37:55.460
was wounded 17 times in the service of his nation. He didn't care. They're blown off his limbs. He's
00:38:00.380
going to go back out there and fight. And he had severe disfigurement and maiming, but he loved his
00:38:04.760
country so much. And the story goes for his loyalty and service, Napoleon himself gave the
00:38:11.400
soldier the saber of honor and a pension of 200 francs. Did this really happen? We're not sure.
00:38:16.740
But the story of it is this story of excessive love of country, sort of single-minded love of
00:38:22.420
country. You don't want that. Love of country is a beautiful thing. And this would typically today
00:38:29.080
be referred to as nationalism. But I don't even really use that term so much. I just think love
00:38:35.840
of country is justified just like you love your father and you love your mother and you love your
00:38:39.800
community. So too do you love your family. But you should not ground your identity primarily in your
00:38:46.960
country. You need to, you can't ground your identity in anything that is merely temporal and
00:38:52.760
ephemeral. You've got to ground your identity ultimately in something metaphysical, ultimately in
00:38:58.580
God, who is the source and summit of all identity. If you do that, then all those other natural loves
00:39:04.000
will follow. Natural love of country, natural love of family, natural love of everything. If you try to
00:39:10.840
ground your identity in something ephemeral, it's going to pervert all of those other identities and
00:39:16.060
you're going to get bizarre, extreme obsessiveness like jingoism and chauvinism. From Jasmine,
00:39:22.020
hello, Michael, I saw the men's conference panel that you were on. This is a reference to,
00:39:29.300
whose panel was that? So the, gosh, his name escapes me. We were on, I was on a men's panel
00:39:35.800
with a moderator. Gosh, totally forget his name. Well, I'll remember it right after the show is over
00:39:42.220
and I'll tweet it out. He said, oh, Jesse Peterson. Thankfully. Okay, good. It finally came to me.
00:39:46.900
Jesse, Jesse Peterson, good friend of mine, a little eccentric character, but I like him. He asked,
00:39:52.900
if it was not for sex, would men have anything to do with women? The letter goes on. You and most of
00:39:59.880
the other panelists all said, no, a few reasons were given, including beauty and procreation. As a
00:40:04.480
woman, I was put off to say the least. If those are the only benefits to women, what point or purpose
00:40:09.080
are left for the ugly or fat women or women unable to bear children? I look forward to your response.
00:40:13.100
Thanks. I did not say no. I'll go back and look at the tape, but I believe what I said was that
00:40:19.680
if not for sex differences, there would be no such thing as women, which is a very different answer.
00:40:28.140
If Jesse's question was, if not for sex, would you have anything to do with women? My answer is,
00:40:33.980
if not for sex, there would not be women. What is a woman? A woman is sexually complimentary
00:40:41.340
complimentary to a man. The reason that there is a difference between men and women is because there
00:40:46.240
is a sexual difference between men and women. So the question, if not for sex, would you have
00:40:52.380
anything to do with women? Is a nonsensical question. It's like saying, if there were no
00:40:56.220
women, would you have anything to do with women? I guess not because there wouldn't be women. Then
00:41:00.080
everyone would just be the same category, which we could call either men or women, but there wouldn't
00:41:04.860
be both. So that is my answer. Now, obviously I'm not just talking about physical sex. I'm not just
00:41:10.140
talking about that fun thing that people do at night. I'm talking about everything else that
00:41:16.280
flows from sexual difference, our personality differences, our domestic differences, the way
00:41:21.840
that men and women compliment each other from the very beginning of time. I totally stand by that
00:41:28.780
answer. And I think so much of gender ideology today stems from a misunderstanding of the fact of
00:41:35.060
sexual difference. The confusion about marriage stems from a misunderstanding of the fact that
00:41:39.860
sexual difference is essential to human life. Within the first few chapters of Genesis, you see the
00:41:46.140
importance of that sexual difference. And that's a wonderful thing, not to be resented, but to be
00:41:51.040
celebrated. And I certainly celebrate it. From Ty. Hello, Michael. Do you think another kingdom would
00:41:56.420
translate well to the silver screen or if it would require too many special effects for the amazing
00:42:01.180
scenes within? And would you be willing to play Austin Lively if the role were offered to you?
00:42:05.700
Or do you have anyone you would recommend for the role? Of course I would play the role. And I think
00:42:10.780
it would be great on the silver screen or really in a TV adaptation. Drew received a number of requests
00:42:18.200
to bring this before Hollywood, especially after the first season, which was a pretty big hit.
00:42:22.760
We're talking about very large production companies. Trouble was, once he got into the room,
00:42:27.760
maybe the night before, they actually Googled him. And I think because of his politics, maybe because
00:42:31.980
of my politics, it was basically not seriously considered for Hollywood. It's too bad. I think
00:42:37.620
it would be a great project. It's obviously been very, very successful as a podcast. If it were
00:42:43.340
created by a left-wing novelist, there is no doubt in my mind it would already be in development at a
00:42:48.100
studio. That's the way it is in Hollywood. That's why we've got to make our own stuff. From Walter.
00:42:52.260
Hi, Michael. Love the show. Please help me understand why so many, if not all, of the roads
00:42:58.120
to dismantle this once great country always lead back to Yale. Not only the actors, but Yale also
00:43:04.180
is the keeper of many secrets. For instance, the records from that immoral twin study, among others.
00:43:09.920
Recently, there have even been rumors of a connection to Jeffrey Epstein, who, parenthetically,
00:43:14.820
didn't commit suicide. I'd love to hear what you think. Fair question. I don't actually know the
00:43:21.240
details about the examples you mentioned, but it is true. There are a lot of nefarious things in
00:43:29.480
American history that have led back to Yale. Well, for instance, the recent breakdown of the
00:43:33.320
American category of universities started in the courtyard at Yale, where a young girl screamed
00:43:38.580
and yelled at her professor, and you saw that then take over universities around the country.
00:43:44.680
The reason for this, I don't think, is some great conspiracy. I think it's because Yale is
00:43:48.540
very, very old. It was one of the first universities in the country. It's significantly older than the
00:43:53.660
nation itself, and Yale has always been a sort of elite institution. It wasn't always even the
00:44:00.800
most intellectually rigorous. For a long time, it was considered just a sort of finishing school for
00:44:05.400
gentlemen. When JFK gave a speech there, he got an honorary degree, and he said, now I have the two
00:44:11.520
greatest things you can have from the American Academy, a Harvard education and a Yale degree.
00:44:16.420
That was sort of what he was alluding to, but it's because it's very old, and it's because it's got a
00:44:22.460
reputation as elite. By the way, this is why the left has infiltrated it. That's why they made such a
00:44:27.340
point of taking over Yale, so that now you have something more resembling zombie Yale. On the outside,
00:44:32.760
it basically looks the same, but on the inside, it has been rotted out by leftism. It doesn't only happen
00:44:36.980
at Yale, it happens in so many institutions. The deep state, you know, the federal bureaucracy,
00:44:41.660
the left has gone into that federal government, taken so much power for itself, rotted it out from
00:44:47.800
within, and so you see a lot of conspiracies develop there. I don't know if it's exactly the
00:44:52.740
fault of the institution. I think that the institution had prestige and power, and that's why the left has
00:44:57.640
gone into it. It's not going to stop at Yale. It's not going to stop at the State Department. It's going
00:45:02.640
to, the left is always going to go into those institutions. The key for conservatives is we can't
00:45:07.740
abandon them. We can't just say, okay, you can have it, but, but we're going to have our own
00:45:12.960
institution somewhere else. The left is going to go for that too. They're going to do it at the
00:45:16.240
churches. They're going to do it at your civic associations. You have got to fight back. From
00:45:20.500
Danny. Hi, Michael. My boyfriend and I have been dating for close to four years now. As of late,
00:45:26.420
I've been struggling with the idea of abstinence and wonder what your thoughts might be on walking back
00:45:32.280
that part of the relationship. It might be a part of my spiritual reawakening, as cliche as I truly
00:45:38.460
know that sounds. I feel like it's important right now in our relationship to build on stronger ties
00:45:44.000
and focus on the sexual avenues after marriage. Any advice you might have on talking to my boyfriend
00:45:49.560
about this would be helpful. Thanks. So what you're saying is you're already in a sexual relationship.
00:45:55.120
Now you're having a spiritual reawakening, and you think it's time to dial that back. I think that's a
00:46:00.000
great idea. I think it is a great idea. And this is an issue that a lot of young people are dealing
00:46:05.200
with today. I told you I was an atheist for 10 years, and I behaved like one when I was an atheist.
00:46:10.000
A friend of mine, actually, who experienced life as a millennial does during his teenage years and in
00:46:17.060
his 20s. He's had a spiritual reawakening, a religious reawakening, and he's actually now dialing
00:46:22.960
back what was a fairly prodigious sex life of his and attempting to abstain from sex until
00:46:29.740
marriage. I think it's a good idea. It's kind of the opposite of what the boomers went through in
00:46:33.740
the 60s. Our parents' generation was told, you've got to have a traditional sexual morality. They
00:46:40.220
rebelled against that, and you got the cult of free love. Now millennials and Gen Z are seeing where that
00:46:46.020
has led us, and it's led us down some pretty dark paths. And so what millennials and Gen Z are saying
00:46:51.480
is, hold on, we should dial back the free love. We should dial it back to a traditional morality.
00:46:56.440
I think that makes a whole lot of sense, and I think your boyfriend, if he's worth his salt,
00:47:01.340
will be amenable to that. Because even men, there's this ridiculous caricature out that we're just sort
00:47:07.060
of grunting buffoons, and all we want to do is have sex all the time. Maybe that's 90% true,
00:47:12.780
but there is a 10% of men, 10% of our inner lives, that recognize that there is a transcendent moral order.
00:47:20.480
And I think that if the women in our lives were to say, hold on a second, maybe we shouldn't do this,
00:47:27.940
then we would listen. This has traditionally been the role of women. Men pursue, women resist,
00:47:33.240
and then you get married and you have a good life together. That is my advice for you,
00:47:40.480
and I wish you luck. And that is our show. Have a good weekend. I'm Michael Knowles. This is
00:47:44.140
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