The Michael Knowles Show - January 14, 2020


Ep. 477 - Libs So White


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

166.39311

Word Count

7,941

Sentence Count

631

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Cory Booker has dropped out of the Democratic presidential race, which means that by the rule of double negation, I am still in it, even though I am Spartacus, who I am, dropped out yesterday. This is about the closest I'll probably ever have in my life to an I AM Spartacus moment.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is under fire from the race-focused left
00:00:05.380 for, once again, snubbing performers of color in the Oscar nominations.
00:00:10.860 But in the Academy's defense, there will at least be more black candidates in the running at the Oscars
00:00:15.900 than there will be at tonight's all-white Democratic presidential debate in Des Moines, Iowa.
00:00:21.040 We will examine the incoherence and hypocrisy of racial identity politics.
00:00:26.100 Then, Bernie Sanders says a woman can't win in 2020, according to a new report from CNN and the Warren campaign.
00:00:33.680 We will revel in the circular firing squad.
00:00:36.480 All that and so much more.
00:00:37.800 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:46.780 We've got some breaking news.
00:00:49.260 Another one bites the dust.
00:00:51.280 Cory Booker has dropped out of the presidential race.
00:00:54.900 Now, Eric Swalwell, who is me, dropped out of the presidential race six months ago.
00:01:00.640 But Spartacus, who I am, dropped out yesterday.
00:01:05.420 Which means that by the rule of double negation, I think that I am still in it.
00:01:09.160 However, Cory Booker is no longer in it.
00:01:12.520 And so we bid him farewell in memoriam.
00:01:15.360 I knowingly violated the rules that were put forth.
00:01:23.620 And I understand that the penalty comes with potential ousting from the Senate.
00:01:28.440 I hope that they will bring charges against us.
00:01:31.300 This is about the closest I'll probably ever have in my life to an I am Spartacus moment.
00:01:35.460 This toxic culture, this pernicious patriarchy in this country has to stop.
00:01:41.480 I hurt.
00:01:42.620 I had tears of rage.
00:01:44.080 And for you not to feel that pain hurt and that pain, that's unacceptable to me.
00:01:49.620 I hurt.
00:01:51.580 I have tears of rage.
00:01:53.100 I feel that pain that Cory Booker is at.
00:01:55.580 We knew when Julian Castro dropped out, it was only a matter of days, maybe weeks, probably days,
00:02:04.300 until the next wokest candidate, Cory Booker, dropped out of the race.
00:02:08.700 But I feel that pain.
00:02:09.760 I feel those tears of rage.
00:02:12.640 Booker's numbers have been pretty low, pretty much non-existent for a while.
00:02:18.200 Well, President Trump found this out yesterday, or he acknowledged this yesterday, when he
00:02:22.800 tweeted out something I have been hoping he would tweet for every single candidate who
00:02:26.660 drops out, which is every time, like when Kirsten Gillibrand dropped out, he said, oh
00:02:31.900 no, Kirsten Gillibrand's gone.
00:02:33.580 She's the one I was really worried about.
00:02:36.040 And then Cory Booker dropped out.
00:02:37.520 He goes, Cory Booker, whose poll numbers have been zero for months, is dropped out.
00:02:41.740 But he was the one I was so scared of going up against.
00:02:44.960 I really want him to do that with every candidate who drops out.
00:02:48.200 But the writing's been on the wall for Booker for a long time.
00:02:51.880 Actually, here is Cory Booker explaining what this race has meant to him as he exits, what
00:02:58.760 it means to get out of the way for a stronger candidate to win the nomination and take on
00:03:03.600 the president in November.
00:03:04.760 Now, I have no idea if that's what that means in Spanish at all.
00:03:19.720 But in my defense, neither does Cory Booker.
00:03:22.180 So he, he is gone and the Democrats have now successfully kicked out all of the candidates
00:03:28.780 who are not translucent, which is how we're going to get an all white Democratic debate
00:03:33.960 tonight in Des Moines.
00:03:35.040 It's going to be very interesting for them to peddle racial politics when all of them are
00:03:39.900 as white as anybody I've ever met.
00:03:42.920 But we will get to the Democrats so white.
00:03:46.680 We will get to the Oscars so white.
00:03:48.700 We will get to why the libs, generally speaking, are just so white.
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00:05:17.420 The Dems are so white.
00:05:22.020 Remember a few years ago?
00:05:23.320 Well, actually, they've been doing it every year since then.
00:05:25.360 There was a hashtag going around the internet.
00:05:27.300 Hashtag Oscars so white because they snubbed some black candidates, as they did again this year.
00:05:34.400 Hashtag Dems so white.
00:05:37.320 We know it.
00:05:38.080 You know, when you think of the 2016 Republican field, there were a lot of candidates of a lot of different races who lasted pretty long, right?
00:05:45.700 You had Ben Carson.
00:05:47.280 He's racial minorities, black.
00:05:49.180 You had Marco Rubio.
00:05:51.060 He's Hispanic.
00:05:51.860 You had Ted Cruz.
00:05:52.760 Ted Cruz made it almost until the very end.
00:05:55.300 I mean, he was the last guy standing other than Donald Trump.
00:05:57.440 So, the Republicans, who don't talk and boast and brag about all their racial diversity and how much more virtuous they are than Democrats.
00:06:06.960 They don't constantly malign Democrats as a bunch of racial bigots like the Democrats do to us.
00:06:11.540 They had a ton of racial diversity right until the very end.
00:06:14.580 Democrats kicked out all the candidates who aren't lily white before 2020 even began, right?
00:06:22.000 Before the first Democratic presidential debate of 2020, all of their non-white candidates are gone.
00:06:29.440 This is a real problem for Democrats, right?
00:06:32.380 They make multiculturalism, they make racial identity politics the central point of their political pitch.
00:06:40.780 They call everybody else racist.
00:06:44.000 And then steadily from the very beginning of this race, they've kicked out every minority candidate.
00:06:48.320 And by the way, every time they do it, they lament the awful racism of kicking out these candidates.
00:06:54.800 Kamala Harris.
00:06:55.580 Kamala Harris didn't lose because she's just a terrible retail politician.
00:06:58.700 No, they couldn't say that.
00:06:59.800 She lost because she's black and a woman.
00:07:03.000 And so they'll add gender politics in there too.
00:07:05.340 Well, guys, you're the ones voting, so it's your fault.
00:07:08.080 Maybe take a look at the man in the mirror if you really believe that that's the reason that she and Castro and Booker and these other candidates have dropped out.
00:07:16.360 But this is not merely a case of Democrats failing to live up to their ideals.
00:07:23.180 Because you might say, well, well, Michael, at least the Democrats prioritize racial politics.
00:07:28.660 They might not live up to actually voting for the candidates who are racial minorities, but at least they think about it.
00:07:33.240 It's at the top of mind.
00:07:34.380 You know, there's a line that I like to quote from La Roche-Foucault, which is that hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
00:07:41.440 At least Democrats have a standard on racial diversity.
00:07:44.760 Republicans don't even have a standard, you might say.
00:07:47.900 I don't think so.
00:07:48.920 I think that's a pretty bad analogy, right?
00:07:51.480 You saw this a little bit with the porn debate.
00:07:53.500 You remember at the end of 2019, all these conservatives were debating whether we should regulate porn or ban porn or have porn everywhere.
00:08:00.620 And the hypocrite argument is you've got all these conservatives who want to ban porn, but a lot of them look at porn all the time.
00:08:08.440 Right, that's a case of hypocrisy as the tribute vice pays to virtue because they're admitting a moral standard and they're failing to live up to it, right?
00:08:19.940 These conservatives will say, I hate porn.
00:08:22.000 I think it's terrible.
00:08:22.820 It's bad for your brain.
00:08:23.740 It's bad for your soul.
00:08:25.040 It objectifies women, right?
00:08:26.960 It's misogynistic, and yet many men in this country, the majority men in this country, have a compulsion or an addiction to look at these kind of materials.
00:08:37.560 So they really try not to.
00:08:38.760 They try to resist, but the temptation overcomes them, and sometimes they look at naked ladies on the Internet.
00:08:43.040 That is not the case with Democrats in racial politics.
00:08:49.440 It's not like they're really trying to vote for Kamala Harris, and they just can't pull the lever for some reason.
00:08:54.560 They really want to vote for Cory Booker, but when the pollster calls them on the phone, they say, ah, no, I prefer Pete Buttigieg.
00:09:00.340 There's no impediment to them supporting these candidates.
00:09:03.320 And how about the candidates themselves?
00:09:04.820 If these candidates, these liberals, really believe that white people have ruined everything, and we need to choose candidates of other races now, and that should be the first thing we think about in politics, then drop out.
00:09:18.920 Buttigieg, Biden, Bernie, Warren, if you really believe that, if you actually believe this is a terribly racially bigoted country, and white people have had seats in the Senate for too long, and they've been running for president for too long,
00:09:31.060 and we've got to get the white people out and get other races in, okay, lead the way, do it, drop out.
00:09:36.820 Barack Obama said this a couple months ago.
00:09:39.560 He was making some pandering, ridiculous remark where he said that men have ruined everything in politics, and if the world were run by women, everything would be so much better.
00:09:51.320 He doesn't believe that.
00:09:53.120 You know how I know he doesn't believe that?
00:09:55.460 Because he was elected president in 2008 by beating Hillary Clinton.
00:10:01.060 If he really believed that women are so much better than men, and men have ruined society, and women should take the lead in politics, he wouldn't have run in 2008.
00:10:10.620 If he had run, because he didn't know Hillary was going to run, he would have dropped out and endorsed her, but he didn't.
00:10:16.520 Instead, he dragged that campaign on, got into a pretty vicious campaign with Hillary Clinton, and absolutely pummeled her political career into obscurity.
00:10:24.800 That was it, right?
00:10:25.620 And then he became president for eight years.
00:10:27.400 They don't really believe this.
00:10:31.060 They don't really believe that we should give racial minority candidates and female candidates special treatment.
00:10:39.300 By the way, I don't think we should give them special treatment either.
00:10:42.280 I think that we should judge candidates on their accomplishments, and on their character, and on their platforms, what they're going to do, and whether they can actually do what they say they're going to do.
00:10:53.020 And we should judge them, and we should judge them, on electability.
00:10:57.860 You've got to pick a winner.
00:10:59.160 It doesn't matter if you've got the most wonderful candidate in the world.
00:11:02.640 If the guy can't get elected, or the girl can't get elected, then they're no good to you, right?
00:11:08.660 The winners go and make laws, and the losers go home, as Mitch McConnell once said.
00:11:13.020 Clearly, the Democrats feel the same way.
00:11:16.260 Of course, they feel the same way.
00:11:17.300 That's what politics is.
00:11:18.780 But the Democrats won't admit it.
00:11:21.960 They are living in lies.
00:11:24.060 They are lying to themselves.
00:11:25.760 They are lying about themselves.
00:11:27.560 And they are lying about their opponents.
00:11:31.880 That's just the way it is.
00:11:33.460 We have to all sit here in the Democratic debate tonight.
00:11:37.000 I'm sure they're going to bring it up, and they're going to lament that there are no racial minorities on stage.
00:11:42.440 Nobody cares.
00:11:43.320 Nobody was supporting these candidates, right?
00:11:45.100 This is not an example of structural racism, or structural sexism, or something like that.
00:11:50.100 They just didn't get poll numbers.
00:11:51.660 They just didn't get any donations, because nobody wants them, because they're weak candidates.
00:11:56.540 And the trouble is that the candidates left on stage, all the white candidates are pretty weak as well.
00:12:03.240 We're going to see that whittle down as it goes.
00:12:05.280 It's not just in the presidential race.
00:12:06.840 It's also in Hollywood.
00:12:09.860 You've got the Democratic candidates, so white.
00:12:12.040 You've got the Oscars, so white.
00:12:14.340 Because despite lip service to the contrary, the Oscars are white and male as well.
00:12:20.040 There is only one black former nominated in a major category.
00:12:23.260 That is Cynthia Barrivo as Harriet Tubman.
00:12:26.920 And actually, some people were upset about this.
00:12:29.120 They were upset that the nomination for the black actress was for this role of a sort of historical, legendary, larger-than-life black figure, an ex-slave who helps other slaves escape.
00:12:43.800 I don't really understand how people are upset about this.
00:12:47.420 This actress was not going to play Jackie Kennedy, right?
00:12:51.420 If you were talking about historical figures, then you're going to talk about the historical figures that the actors or actresses look more like.
00:12:59.980 Now, it is true.
00:13:01.000 Look, I'll never defend Hollywood.
00:13:02.560 Hollywood doesn't make a lot of roles for racial minorities.
00:13:06.160 It's why, on average, you'll notice this in films, on average, the performance by black actors and actresses is better than the average performance by white actors and actresses because there just aren't that many roles.
00:13:18.800 So, generally speaking, the people who get those roles are just really, really good performers.
00:13:24.880 But the issue here for the academy, for the left, for the woke people who are really upset about the Oscars so white is not quality.
00:13:36.300 It's quantity.
00:13:38.120 They're upset that more people were not nominated.
00:13:40.600 They're upset that there aren't more, you know, half of the nominees in Best Actor or Best Picture or Best Director aren't this race or that race or this sex.
00:13:51.800 You know, they're upset that Greta Gerwig, who is a very good director, was not nominated for Best Director.
00:13:59.500 I didn't see the movie she made.
00:14:00.740 She made Little Women, I think, and I was not particularly compelled to go see that.
00:14:05.660 I'll leave that to Sweet Little Elise if she wants to.
00:14:07.960 I don't think she was either.
00:14:08.880 What's interesting in all of the coverage about how the Oscars are so racist and the academy is so racist is Parasite, which is a Korean movie, actually was nominated for a bunch of awards.
00:14:19.800 It was nominated for Best Picture.
00:14:21.220 It was nominated for Best Director.
00:14:22.800 But according to the woke crowd, these racial politics people, Asians don't count as real minorities, I guess, because they were saying, nope, they're sort of white.
00:14:31.340 Nuh-uh, that doesn't count.
00:14:32.580 It's got to be different.
00:14:33.160 It's got to be our preferred races, not other racial minorities as a whole.
00:14:37.020 I haven't seen most of the movies, so I can't really comment on the justice or the injustice of the nominations.
00:14:44.280 But I actually would like to say something nice about Hollywood and liberals on the issue of racial politics.
00:14:52.760 I actually would like to take the temperature down in the country a little bit, bring together a little bit of political unity.
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00:16:36.960 I would like to say something nice and fair and not just take cheap shots at Hollywood and the left and the Democratic candidates.
00:16:48.900 They would never be fair with us.
00:16:51.620 I would like to be fair with them.
00:16:53.100 I don't think that Democratic primary voters hate black people.
00:16:59.500 I don't think that the Academy hates black people or Hispanic people or other racial minorities.
00:17:08.320 I think sometimes black performers win the Oscars like Denzel Washington or Halle Berry or Jamie Foxx.
00:17:18.860 And I think sometimes performers of other races win the Oscars.
00:17:22.860 I think sometimes women win Best Director.
00:17:27.320 There was that woman, actually the only woman who's won it, Catherine Bigelow.
00:17:30.100 But more often, men win Best Director because there were many, many, many more male directors than female directors.
00:17:38.760 Not because there's some law against female directors, just the way it is.
00:17:43.620 Sometimes the black presidential candidate wins, like last time, like actually our last president.
00:17:50.760 Sometimes the orange presidential candidate wins, like our current president.
00:17:55.760 In order for the typical leftist charge to be true, half of this country, the conservative half, the right half, the Republican half,
00:18:08.380 has to be racist and sexist and terrible and bigoted and deplorable and irredeemable.
00:18:13.680 If the typical leftist charge is true, a full half of the country, 150 million people, are just hate-filled bigots.
00:18:22.940 Now, in order for the woke leftist charge to be true, the Oscars so white crowd, the Democrat candidates so white crowd,
00:18:30.280 for their charge to be true, the whole country has to be bigoted and sexist and racist and terrible
00:18:35.820 and hate black people and hate Hispanics and be motivated by just pure bile and vitriol.
00:18:42.780 Does anybody think that that's true?
00:18:45.900 I guess the really hardened left thinks that because the really hardened left hates the country.
00:18:51.400 The really hardened, radical left hates the founding of the country, hates the history of the country,
00:18:58.060 hates the traditions of the country, hates the present state of the country,
00:19:01.900 believes that the present state of our society and government and politics is literally violent to many people.
00:19:10.140 And so they want to completely get rid of it and progress forward.
00:19:14.680 They want something new.
00:19:16.320 They think that the only thing holding us back are these vestigial remnants of the American founding.
00:19:21.400 And the minute we get rid of those, we can move on to utopia.
00:19:23.900 That's true of the very, very hardened left.
00:19:27.120 Everybody else, though, I don't think we really believe that all of our countrymen are terrible bigots.
00:19:33.320 I certainly don't.
00:19:35.360 We are the least racially divisive country on earth.
00:19:39.840 We're pretty much the only country on earth where you can't be a racist, right?
00:19:44.640 Go to, go to Europe, go to Asia, go to India, go anywhere else in the world.
00:19:52.840 People are much, much more conscious of race and much more divided on race than we are in the United States.
00:20:01.000 That's a lovely thing.
00:20:01.860 We should be happy about that.
00:20:03.640 We should say, hey, good job, everybody.
00:20:05.440 Good job, America.
00:20:06.240 We're, but that's not what the very, very hardened left wants to do.
00:20:10.840 And it's easy to take some, some shots at Democrats and the left for their racial hypocrisy.
00:20:15.200 And I'm more than happy to do it because they need to be called out on their hypocrisy on this issue and many others.
00:20:21.280 But it's not because I want to accuse them and make them feel terrible and have them admit they're all terrible racists.
00:20:28.780 I want them to admit that we're doing fine.
00:20:33.820 We're doing just fine.
00:20:34.900 We have a, we have relatively excellent racial relations in the country.
00:20:39.640 Obviously, we have wonderful gender relations.
00:20:41.820 You know, they say that we'll, we'll never have a, a gender war because everybody's sleeping with the enemy.
00:20:46.480 So I'm not terribly confused or worried about that rather because things, things seem to be going fine on that front as well.
00:20:54.440 Until the left admits it, until the left admits things are looking pretty good in the country.
00:20:59.000 Until the left admits that the country that they say is hopelessly bigoted elected a black guy last time.
00:21:04.200 Until they admit that the academy has given plenty of words to racial minorities and plenty of awards to women.
00:21:10.220 And if they want more than, okay, that's fine.
00:21:13.580 I mean, that's Hollywood.
00:21:14.340 They can deal with Hollywood.
00:21:15.120 But until they admit that this isn't some just totally closed off country, the patriarchy, the white supremacy, or whatever slogans and bumper stickers they're going to use.
00:21:24.400 Until they admit that, we are going to point out their hypocrisy.
00:21:28.400 And we are going to laugh and enjoy and lap up the circular firing squad because there is no sign that the left is going to cut it out.
00:21:36.780 Instead, they are ratcheting it up.
00:21:38.960 They are turning it all the way up to 11.
00:21:40.600 Just to give you a little appetizer, a little amuse-bouche for tonight's Democratic debate in Des Moines.
00:21:49.280 Elizabeth Warren is now personally insinuating that Bernie Sanders is some kind of male chauvinist, a sexist.
00:21:59.340 This leaked yesterday to CNN.
00:22:01.240 There was a leak, certainly from the Elizabeth Warren camp, that during a private meeting in 2018 between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders,
00:22:11.560 where they were going to try to negotiate and hash out how they were both going to run for president,
00:22:16.380 Bernie Sanders, that misogynist, that sexist, told Elizabeth, Liawatha Warren, that a woman can't win in 2020.
00:22:29.660 Bernie, bum, bum, bum, bum.
00:22:33.020 This was leaked to CNN from anonymous sources, namely Elizabeth Warren and people close to her.
00:22:38.320 And then when the story wasn't gaining a ton of traction, Warren doubled down on it herself.
00:22:44.340 She came out, she said,
00:22:45.680 I thought a woman could win.
00:22:47.500 He disagreed.
00:22:49.020 I have no interest in discussing this private meeting any further
00:22:52.560 because Bernie and I have far more in common than our differences in punditry.
00:22:56.600 I think you do have an interest in discussing this further.
00:23:01.240 I think that's why you leaked it.
00:23:03.600 A classic, Elizabeth Warren is so disingenuous.
00:23:06.480 All of these candidates are so disingenuous.
00:23:09.640 I'm trying to think of an earnest candidate, maybe Klobuchar.
00:23:13.160 Klobuchar might be the closest thing we have to an earnest candidate,
00:23:17.940 and she's completely unimpressive as a retail politician, so she's not going anywhere.
00:23:21.940 But I think, yeah, Klobuchar, Tulsi, Yang, those are kind of the earnest, honest candidates.
00:23:29.460 The rest of them are just total empty shills.
00:23:33.460 Well, in terms of the major candidates, I guess there's a little exception for Bernie,
00:23:38.460 and that is why Elizabeth Warren is so upset.
00:23:42.040 Because Elizabeth Warren was going to be the progressive standard bearer.
00:23:45.080 She was going to take over that wing of the party because it's her time.
00:23:48.600 And she's young, relatively, she's not, no spring chicken, but she's young in this field
00:23:53.700 where the median age is 162.
00:23:56.100 She's a woman.
00:23:58.100 She's, at various times, a Native American.
00:24:00.940 Not actually, but according to her Harvard biography, she is.
00:24:04.460 When it suits her to try to get a better job in the academy, she's a Native American.
00:24:08.260 And hey, she might be one 1,024th Native American, so give her the benefit of the doubt.
00:24:12.860 She was supposed to take the progressive line, and Bernie is surging, and her campaign is collapsing.
00:24:20.460 Her campaign is collapsing for a couple reasons.
00:24:22.460 One, it's disingenuous.
00:24:27.880 People see her as a kind of Harvard establishmentarian.
00:24:30.760 Maybe she's a left winger in the way that intellectuals are left wingers, right?
00:24:34.800 They're left wingers while they write their books.
00:24:36.360 And they can be really radical, and they can be really violent, but they don't have the cred.
00:24:40.260 They haven't been out there marching in the streets, all right?
00:24:42.320 Elizabeth Warren has never tasted a beer in her life until she did that video with her husband.
00:24:47.780 So they're skeptical of that, and they're skeptical of her plans, because her plans don't look like they're going to work.
00:24:56.880 She released her health care plan.
00:24:58.660 It was a $52 trillion plan.
00:25:00.140 She had no idea how she was going to pay for it.
00:25:03.980 Actually, in some ways, there's a parallel to Trump 2016 here, which is that Elizabeth Warren now is trying to learn the language
00:25:10.380 of this radical left to get the nomination.
00:25:13.520 In the same way that President Trump was learning the language of movement conservatism.
00:25:18.260 He was learning the language of the people who had been steeped in conservative politics for 20 years.
00:25:23.240 Trump hadn't been.
00:25:24.240 Trump was a reality TV show host.
00:25:26.120 He was a casino mogul.
00:25:28.320 He was a real estate mogul.
00:25:29.840 He just hadn't dedicated his life to politics, so he wasn't as fluent in that language.
00:25:35.160 Elizabeth Warren has been in politics a long time.
00:25:37.640 She has much less of an excuse, and so as her campaign is collapsing, as Bernie is surging unexpectedly
00:25:45.660 for many people, Warren is using the last refuge of a scoundrel.
00:25:50.700 She's accusing him of bigotry and sexism or chauvinism or misogyny or whatever.
00:25:56.420 This will certainly come up in the debate tonight.
00:25:58.760 That's the whole reason Elizabeth Warren leaked it in the first place.
00:26:02.040 We need to leave the realm of mainstream identity politics for a while, though, and take a look
00:26:07.540 at the fringes of identity politics because that is where you see the future.
00:26:13.140 If you had said four years ago, five years ago, that we would have huge national debates
00:26:21.040 over whether a man can become a woman, whether a man should use the women's locker room or the
00:26:27.400 women's bathroom, over whether we should pay for male prisoners to mutilate their body,
00:26:38.080 become more resembling of females.
00:26:40.900 If you had told us that this would be a national debate, pronouns, you would have to tell people
00:26:45.020 your pronouns in your little email signature or when you meet them.
00:26:48.840 We would have laughed in your face.
00:26:50.180 That was such a fringe, ridiculous idea.
00:26:51.960 Now it's mainstream.
00:26:54.680 We're going to take a look at another fringe idea and see the logical end of identity politics.
00:26:58.880 Then we will get to a wonderful little piece of leftist hypocrisy on the environment.
00:27:06.160 The left is trying to brush this under the rug, brush this under the glacier because one
00:27:10.740 of their big climate change predictions has not come true.
00:27:13.300 We will get to that.
00:27:14.340 We'll get to a whole lot more.
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00:27:28.040 You get me.
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00:27:34.180 You get Another Kingdom, the final season.
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00:28:06.840 A convicted pedophile in Michigan is going to prison for 10 to 20 years.
00:28:25.560 Why?
00:28:26.340 Because he was caught with kiddie porn on his computer.
00:28:29.640 This happens often in this country.
00:28:34.080 You see this, it seems like there's a story like this every week.
00:28:39.020 What makes this case different, however, is the defense that this 45-year-old pedophile
00:28:45.600 offered to the judge.
00:28:48.100 And his defense was this.
00:28:50.100 It was not illegal for him to have child pornography on his computer.
00:28:54.460 He has a right to have child pornography on his computer because he has always been an 8-year-old
00:29:03.260 girl.
00:29:05.520 Now, I know that he's a 45-year-old man, but he says that actually he has always been a 45-year-old
00:29:14.680 girl.
00:29:15.980 And the language he uses is pretty powerful.
00:29:19.480 He says, in my fantasies, I have always been an 8-year-old girl.
00:29:25.920 He said, there are adults on the internet who have sex with me as an 8-year-old girl.
00:29:36.220 Very confusing.
00:29:38.600 What does that mean?
00:29:39.900 That means that he, the claim he is making is that his fantasies are reality.
00:29:49.820 He's admitting it.
00:29:50.700 I mean, we say that all the time.
00:29:51.740 We say, just because you're a man who thinks that you're a woman in your fantasies doesn't
00:29:54.860 mean you actually are a woman.
00:29:56.080 They say, it's not a fantasy.
00:29:58.580 Or in the case of like Rachel Dolezal, speaking of identity politics, just because you're a
00:30:02.780 white woman who in your fantasies is a black woman doesn't mean you actually are a black
00:30:06.360 woman.
00:30:07.260 Well, this guy is admitting it.
00:30:09.680 He's saying, in my fantasies, I'm an 8-year-old girl and my fantasies are reality.
00:30:15.040 Therefore, I am an 8-year-old girl.
00:30:17.400 And then he says, there are adults who have sex with me on the internet as I am an 8-year-old
00:30:23.560 girl.
00:30:24.380 Now, you can't have sex on the internet.
00:30:27.240 You have to have sex in person.
00:30:28.940 That's what sex is.
00:30:29.620 There's a layer that's so insidious here and it actually gets back into that child, not
00:30:36.400 the child porn debate.
00:30:37.460 There's not much of a debate on that, but onto the overall online pornography debate, which
00:30:42.640 is the blurred line between fantasy and reality.
00:30:46.200 If you go on the internet and you look at all sorts of disgusting, horrible, misogynistic,
00:30:51.920 terrible things, and you do that for an hour a day, let's say you do it for more than an
00:30:58.980 hour a day.
00:30:59.720 Maybe let's, I mean, there's something, I've read about cases of people where it's become
00:31:04.440 a total absorbing addiction.
00:31:06.060 They don't go to work anymore.
00:31:07.460 They can't get out of bed in the morning.
00:31:08.840 They're just, it's like any drug that they would be addicted to.
00:31:10.980 Well, if you spend that much time doing this thing, watching exploitation, watching perverse
00:31:18.840 acts, that's you.
00:31:21.580 That's your life.
00:31:22.260 That's what you're doing.
00:31:23.440 You are known by your actions, right?
00:31:25.320 You are known by how you spend your time.
00:31:27.340 You are known by where you put your resources, one of which is your time and your desire and
00:31:31.940 your affection.
00:31:33.840 Where a man puts his treasure, that's where his heart is also.
00:31:36.940 So, you can't have sex on the internet, but what he is saying is, because I engage in
00:31:46.640 these fantasies via, I don't know, I assume they're typing it out, because I engage in these
00:31:51.300 fantasies with people across the internet, I am really having sex with them.
00:31:55.740 No, you're not.
00:31:56.300 It's all virtual.
00:31:57.900 It's all digital.
00:31:59.380 It's all fantasy.
00:32:00.380 This guy, in a virtual fantasy, might be an eight-year-old girl, but in reality, he's
00:32:08.060 not.
00:32:08.440 He's a guy who is trafficking in the exploitation of children, and that's the reality of it.
00:32:15.980 And I suspect that what he tells himself every day is that he's not really doing that.
00:32:23.080 I suspect he's believing his own lies.
00:32:25.440 And I fear that we, as a society, are believing our own lies when it comes to not just porn
00:32:31.140 or something, but even to this, the identity politics question.
00:32:35.660 There are a lot of people in this country who believe this is the most exploitative, terrible,
00:32:39.420 oppressive country that's ever existed in the world.
00:32:42.400 Stalin, Mao, Hitler, they ain't got nothing on us.
00:32:45.380 We're so terrible.
00:32:46.260 We're so awful.
00:32:46.880 We're so oppressed.
00:32:47.580 Of course, we're the richest, freest, most just, most equitable, safest society that has
00:32:52.560 ever existed, no matter.
00:32:55.300 That's the reality.
00:32:56.140 That's not the fantasy.
00:32:57.120 And the fantasy is increasingly where people are living.
00:33:00.780 Look no further than Jessica Yaniv.
00:33:03.460 Jessica Yaniv is a man who identifies as a woman.
00:33:07.660 He's the guy who went up in Canada and forced immigrant women at beauty salons to wax his genitals.
00:33:15.800 He went in to get a Brazilian wax, which is a cosmetic procedure for women, but he's not
00:33:21.980 a woman.
00:33:22.340 He's a man.
00:33:23.500 And they said, we're not going to do that.
00:33:25.980 We're not going to touch your genitals.
00:33:27.440 But, but also the procedure for women is different than for men.
00:33:32.500 The Brazilian wax is different than the manzillion wax because men and women are different.
00:33:38.440 This guy was so upset, he puts the women out of business, starts filing all of these civil
00:33:42.400 rights complaints.
00:33:43.040 He's a guy who sent lewd text messages to an underage girl.
00:33:46.060 Speaking of our last story, he's a guy who just this year tried to host a topless LGBT
00:33:51.660 youth pool party for little young teenagers.
00:33:56.180 Now this guy is physically assaulting people on the street.
00:33:59.600 There was a journalist who was covering one of his courtroom appearances and this guy,
00:34:03.400 Jessica Yaniv, very, very ladylike, goes over and starts punching the reporter.
00:34:07.800 Will you be pleading guilt?
00:34:09.220 What?
00:34:09.560 Go.
00:34:09.940 No, don't touch me.
00:34:10.780 Don't touch me.
00:34:11.720 Hey.
00:34:12.160 Hey.
00:34:13.040 Stop.
00:34:16.100 Go away from me.
00:34:17.220 Go away.
00:34:18.120 Go away from me.
00:34:19.260 Jesus.
00:34:19.760 Get away from me.
00:34:20.380 Go away from me.
00:34:21.180 Crazy.
00:34:21.960 Get away from me.
00:34:23.860 Get away.
00:34:25.440 Get the away from me.
00:34:27.420 Stay away from me.
00:34:28.380 Get away from me.
00:34:29.460 Now.
00:34:30.520 Right now.
00:34:32.400 You heard me?
00:34:33.160 I'm calling the police on you.
00:34:34.160 I don't give a shit.
00:34:35.080 Get away from me.
00:34:35.880 You stay away from me.
00:34:36.600 All right.
00:34:37.860 This guy obviously has done some pretty bad things.
00:34:41.120 This guy putting poor women out of business and sending lewd messages to underage girls and trying to lure kids into this awful party and beating up journalists.
00:34:51.660 And this guy's done some awful things.
00:34:54.080 I actually have some sympathy for him, though.
00:34:56.160 I actually feel bad for the guy because I think it's pretty clear he's not all there in the head.
00:35:03.500 I think it's pretty clear he's got some issues that he's working on.
00:35:07.160 He's got some problems.
00:35:10.900 Five years ago, this would have been so obvious.
00:35:14.940 We would have all said, oh, this is a crazy person.
00:35:16.880 We need to get him psychiatric help.
00:35:18.940 Everything he does, which he does constantly, he's doing like every month this guy is in the international news, is insane.
00:35:27.060 We should get him some help.
00:35:29.260 We can't do that in this culture because in this culture, we are elevating fantasy and delusion over reality.
00:35:36.240 And we are saying that your own subjective experience, whatever you want the world to be, is the way the world really is.
00:35:43.980 Justice Kennedy in the Planned Parenthood v. Casey decision says people have a right to define their own reality.
00:35:51.940 And of course they don't.
00:35:53.160 None of us has a right to define reality.
00:35:55.980 Not a single one of us.
00:35:57.500 Reality is what it is.
00:35:58.840 And it's up to us to recognize that and to orient our lives to be in a relationship with reality.
00:36:07.960 In a culture driven crazy by identity politics, we need to pretend that Jessica Yaniv is normal.
00:36:17.100 And sure, we'd haul them to court and we'd say, hey, you shouldn't send those texts to those underage girls with the pictures and stuff.
00:36:25.260 Hey, you shouldn't put those immigrant women out of business.
00:36:28.620 Hey, you shouldn't assault journalists.
00:36:31.180 But overall, we need to pretend that everything else is fine in this guy's life.
00:36:35.240 Trying to completely redefine reality, that's totally fine.
00:36:38.940 It's just that you threw a punch at that independent journalist.
00:36:42.220 No, the problem is the fantasy.
00:36:45.600 The problem is indulging people because we think that lies can be comforting.
00:36:51.340 I mean, that's what is at the bottom of all of this.
00:36:53.520 I gave a speech on it during my YAF lecture tour last semester.
00:36:58.180 At the bottom of this is this lie that the truth is cruel and that lies are comforting.
00:37:04.500 That it's cruel to say to Jessica Yaniv, you're a man who has issues and you need some help.
00:37:08.860 That it's comforting to say, no, Jessica, you're really a woman.
00:37:14.520 No, pedophile in Michigan, you're really an eight-year-old girl.
00:37:18.180 No, Rachel Dolezal, you're really a black woman, even though you're a white woman.
00:37:24.300 No, very, very wealthy, glamorous people in Hollywood.
00:37:31.160 You're really oppressed.
00:37:32.880 All of you, regardless of your skin color and your sex, you're so oppressed.
00:37:36.940 No, Democratic candidates, you're so oppressed.
00:37:39.940 No, you're not.
00:37:40.900 You're not.
00:37:42.080 There's nothing comforting about that.
00:37:44.340 There's a great image on the bio tapestry, which is an image of the Battle of Hastings, right?
00:37:49.700 This is a thousand-year-old battle.
00:37:51.560 And in it, there's a picture of Bishop Odo.
00:37:54.540 Bishops were not allowed to fight in the battles, right?
00:37:57.540 They were clergy.
00:37:58.600 They're not allowed to actually hold a sword and start chopping people to bits.
00:38:01.460 But Bishop Odo was there in the battle to prevent his men from retreating, to prevent them from running away.
00:38:09.620 And he had a club.
00:38:10.680 And the image on the bio tapestry is Bishop Odo smacking these young guys all over the head, right?
00:38:16.220 And the line on it is, here Bishop Odo wielding a club comforts the boys.
00:38:24.120 Comforts.
00:38:24.900 That's not what you and I would think of as comforting, to be smacked on the head with a club.
00:38:28.700 But sometimes that's what comforting means.
00:38:31.940 Because to comfort is to give strength.
00:38:33.940 And when you're in the heat of battle, giving strength might mean a little thwack with the club.
00:38:38.220 When you're in the heat of political crisis, comfort might mean telling people truths that they ironically call uncomfortable.
00:38:46.580 But they're not.
00:38:47.380 The only thing uncomfortable in the long run is lies.
00:38:50.560 Speaking of which, a really big leftist lie.
00:38:52.540 For years now, at Montana's Glacier National Park, there have been signs at the glaciers, which say, these glaciers will be gone by 2020.
00:39:06.060 Because that's always the way it is, right?
00:39:07.760 Al Gore told us that New York and Florida were going to be underwater by, what, 2013?
00:39:11.980 Something like that.
00:39:12.520 We were told in the 60s that overpopulation was going to destroy the whole world, that there'd be mass starvation, 100 million people dying a year.
00:39:21.400 Now, between 1970 and today, the world population has doubled.
00:39:25.620 People have never been fatter.
00:39:26.700 People have never been better fed.
00:39:28.160 Poverty has never been lower.
00:39:31.000 So they have these signs.
00:39:32.440 They say that the glaciers will be gone by 2020.
00:39:34.740 Well, 2020 is here.
00:39:35.960 The glaciers are still there.
00:39:37.820 All the glaciers are still there.
00:39:39.240 29 glaciers still there, not melted at all by climate change.
00:39:44.140 So they're trying to take the signs down, one by one.
00:39:47.340 We should not let them do that.
00:39:49.800 If anybody in the White House is listening, President Trump, if you are listening,
00:39:53.980 the president has control over the national parks.
00:39:58.040 You've got to make sure that those signs stay up.
00:40:00.700 And if they've been taken down, put them back up.
00:40:03.560 The way that the left gets away with these constant lies, this constant crisis,
00:40:08.020 everything's a crisis, it's urgent.
00:40:09.960 Give us everything we want or the world is going to end.
00:40:12.080 That's what the most prominent voices on climate change are telling us
00:40:15.720 and have been for 40 years.
00:40:18.740 The way they get away with it is we let them take down the signs.
00:40:22.760 We let them rewrite history.
00:40:24.200 We let them rewrite their own statements
00:40:25.660 so that the Armageddon is always going to be the day after tomorrow.
00:40:30.140 Give us what we want today, otherwise tomorrow the whole world is going to fall apart.
00:40:34.200 Keep those signs up.
00:40:35.600 We need a national movement to keep those signs up
00:40:38.920 and let their hypocrisy, let their lies, let their wild and untrue predictions,
00:40:45.460 their hysteria be put on full display.
00:40:49.840 We've got some pretty good news.
00:40:51.780 We've got to end on a good note because we've got the left crumbling.
00:40:55.520 We've got the left falling apart.
00:40:57.540 And we've got Hollywood falling apart.
00:41:00.500 And we've got the right growing and growing.
00:41:04.020 Trump's numbers are doing very, very well.
00:41:06.760 Impeachment totally helped him.
00:41:08.340 Killing Soleimani totally helped him.
00:41:10.160 World War III definitely helped him.
00:41:12.840 Because World War III lasted about 15 minutes.
00:41:15.560 And we won it pretty clearly.
00:41:16.860 We won it more decisively than we won the last World War.
00:41:19.980 So President Trump was going to a football game.
00:41:23.540 It was the Louisiana Clemson game.
00:41:25.420 And you see all these videos over the past few months of Trump at a sports event.
00:41:31.740 And he gets booed.
00:41:33.200 Those are the ones that go on CNN.
00:41:34.600 Those are the ones that go on MSNBC.
00:41:37.280 He didn't get booed at this event.
00:41:38.800 He actually got raucous applause and a standing ovation.
00:41:41.880 Here's the president.
00:41:43.180 From Louisiana State University and Clemson University,
00:41:47.280 joined by the President of the United States and the First Lady.
00:41:51.540 There he is.
00:42:15.280 Very popular in lots of different areas of America.
00:42:18.580 You won't see that on the mainstream media, though.
00:42:20.380 And I think that's why they're always so surprised
00:42:23.200 when the Democratic candidates don't do well.
00:42:25.680 When people don't tune into the Oscars.
00:42:29.020 When President Trump wins in 2016.
00:42:31.040 They're so surprised because we've never seen anybody applaud Trump.
00:42:34.760 As New York Times reporters were saying in the 70s.
00:42:38.960 I don't know anybody who voted for Richard Nixon.
00:42:41.600 Except he keeps winning in a landslide.
00:42:43.520 And on that point,
00:42:45.200 I encourage you to check out the dumbest article on the internet today.
00:42:48.200 From the LA Times.
00:42:49.100 This was written by Virginia Heffernan.
00:42:53.340 The column is titled,
00:42:55.180 Call Trumpism What It Is.
00:42:57.460 A Cult.
00:42:59.460 The article begins.
00:43:01.700 The comparisons have come hard and fast, at least since 2015.
00:43:05.320 Trump is like Silvio Berlusconi,
00:43:07.080 like Adolf Hitler,
00:43:07.940 like Boris Johnson.
00:43:09.480 It's time to stop searching for the exact analogy for Trump.
00:43:12.060 What demands analysis is less the arrogant 73-year-old mediocrity in the Oval Office,
00:43:17.740 but the worshipful attitude so many Americans have toward him.
00:43:24.240 A lot of nut jobs have peddled lies to Americans before,
00:43:27.360 even styled themselves as messianic.
00:43:29.180 But at no time in history have so many Americans
00:43:32.460 been drawn to what looks increasingly like a cult.
00:43:35.100 I don't use the term recklessly,
00:43:37.360 but you can imagine.
00:43:39.280 I won't read the rest of it,
00:43:40.220 but pretty reckless.
00:43:42.060 Then it just quotes a bunch of Democrats
00:43:43.860 talking about how much they hate Trump.
00:43:47.020 Nowhere in the article,
00:43:48.100 as far as I can tell,
00:43:49.160 is any fact about the Trump presidency.
00:43:53.400 Nowhere is any mention of
00:43:54.980 the booming economy,
00:43:56.380 or the relative peace abroad,
00:43:58.060 or the killing of the
00:43:59.040 two biggest errorists on the face of the earth,
00:44:01.580 Baghdadi and Soleimani,
00:44:03.340 or the 401Ks going up,
00:44:06.920 or the record low unemployment,
00:44:08.580 or the record deregulation,
00:44:10.100 or wages rising for the first time in 10 years,
00:44:12.380 or none of that is here.
00:44:14.080 All we hear is
00:44:15.280 mind control,
00:44:17.820 and brainwashing,
00:44:19.360 and how much they hate Trump,
00:44:21.140 and how he's terrible,
00:44:21.980 and how it's a cult.
00:44:25.100 What are cults?
00:44:26.860 Cults are
00:44:27.820 religious or quasi-religious movements
00:44:31.560 where people abandon their senses,
00:44:33.900 abandon their reason,
00:44:35.900 and follow
00:44:37.400 people who are demagogues,
00:44:42.020 who follow people who have
00:44:43.480 some kind of irrational
00:44:44.500 or emotional control over them.
00:44:46.720 That is not what's happening
00:44:48.140 in the Trump movement.
00:44:49.820 The Trump movement,
00:44:51.000 in 2016,
00:44:52.800 for a great many people,
00:44:55.120 the argument for voting for Trump
00:44:57.060 is that he would certainly
00:44:58.480 be better than Hillary,
00:44:59.480 even if he were terrible.
00:45:00.720 He would almost certainly
00:45:01.840 be better than Hillary.
00:45:03.380 Since then,
00:45:04.020 we've got data points,
00:45:05.140 we've got facts,
00:45:05.860 which are totally missing
00:45:06.840 from these diatribes
00:45:08.040 against the president,
00:45:08.960 which are totally missing
00:45:09.920 from the democratic presidential debates,
00:45:12.160 which are totally missing
00:45:13.080 from the hysteria on the left,
00:45:14.580 on the internet,
00:45:15.100 and elsewhere.
00:45:15.420 We've got the facts,
00:45:17.620 the numbers are in.
00:45:19.720 To vote for Trump,
00:45:20.800 to support Trump,
00:45:21.620 to support conservatives
00:45:22.520 is a pretty rational act.
00:45:24.800 If you like a good economy,
00:45:25.920 you like relative peace abroad,
00:45:27.260 you like all those judges
00:45:28.140 who are interpreting our constitution
00:45:29.960 as it was written,
00:45:30.660 and you like all that stuff,
00:45:32.020 and you don't like all the crazy divisiveness,
00:45:34.720 then you support the president,
00:45:37.680 you support the conservative.
00:45:39.640 Or on the left,
00:45:40.660 if you think that America
00:45:41.560 is the most racist,
00:45:42.380 bigoted, awful, terrible,
00:45:43.740 dangerous place
00:45:44.380 that there ever was,
00:45:45.340 and you believe that the world
00:45:46.320 is going to end tomorrow
00:45:47.140 because the glaciers melted in 2020,
00:45:49.140 because climate change
00:45:49.960 is going to kill us all,
00:45:50.980 and you believe that a man is a woman,
00:45:52.420 and you believe,
00:45:53.520 trust me,
00:45:54.000 it'll happen in,
00:45:55.040 I don't know,
00:45:55.600 two or three years,
00:45:56.580 that people can identify
00:45:58.580 as different ages,
00:45:59.720 and a 45-year-old man
00:46:00.820 can be an eight-year-old girl.
00:46:01.960 If you believe
00:46:02.500 all that kind of stuff,
00:46:03.640 then you probably prefer the left.
00:46:05.900 Which one of those is the cult?
00:46:08.120 Pretty clear to me.
00:46:09.020 That's our show.
00:46:09.880 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:46:10.540 This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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00:46:12.380 The situation now is unacceptable.
00:46:16.380 This president has attacked,
00:46:19.220 has demonized the immigrants.
00:46:21.380 It's unacceptable.
00:46:22.340 I'm going to change the rest.
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00:47:24.380 Hey everyone,
00:47:24.900 I'm Andrew Klavan,
00:47:25.600 host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
00:47:27.380 You know who the stupidest people in America are?
00:47:30.160 Intellectuals.
00:47:30.900 Those guys think so much,
00:47:32.580 they think right through stuff like patriotism and freedom.
00:47:35.920 The people are finally rising up against them,
00:47:37.700 not just here,
00:47:38.200 but all over the world,
00:47:39.040 and that is a good thing.
00:47:40.360 We will talk about that,
00:47:41.300 and the Oscars too,
00:47:42.480 on The Andrew Klavan Show.