Ep. 494 - Berning Down New Hampshire
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Donald Trump wins the primary in a landslide. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren collapse, and Bloomberg lurks in the shadows waiting to buy the Democratic nomination, but the biggest winner of all in the New Hampshire primary was Donald Trump. We look past the top-line numbers to the hidden lessons of last night s vote. Plus, Jussie Smollett s attacker is finally brought to justice, and an injustice is corrected in the sentencing of Roger Stone for the unforgivable crime of working for President Trump.
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Biden and Warren collapse and Bloomberg lurks in the shadows waiting to buy the Democratic nomination.
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But the biggest winner of all in the New Hampshire presidential primaries was Donald Trump.
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We look past the top line numbers to the hidden lessons of last night's vote.
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Then Jussie Smollett's attacker is finally brought to justice.
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And an injustice is corrected in the sentencing of GOP operative Roger Stone
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for the unforgivable crime of working for President Trump.
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I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Hooboy, do we have a lot to get to out of New Hampshire last night.
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I feel we could do seven or eight hours on New Hampshire, but we don't have that much time.
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Bernie Sanders, followed by Pete Buttigieg, followed by Amy Klobuchar, who got a ton of
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momentum coming out of Iowa and out of the last debate, followed by poor Elizabeth Warren,
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followed pathetically by Joe Biden, who is only slightly above Tom Steyer, a guy whose
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name you probably haven't heard of and you might remember him from his silly ties from
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the debates, followed by Tulsi Gabbard, who's currently suing Hillary Clinton.
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Obviously, all those people got some votes, but all we really care about are the delegates
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because determined by the number of votes you get in the primary, you then get a certain
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number of delegates and the delegates are what you bring with you to the convention to
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By the delegate count, Bernie and Pete Buttigieg probably are going to get the same number of
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delegates. Looks like they both got nine delegates and Amy Klobuchar is getting six delegates and
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then Elizabeth Warren, zero delegates, Biden, zero delegates, Steyer, Tulsi, zero delegates,
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right? So these things can change as the final numbers come in. Let's get to a deeper level of
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analysis than that. That's like the top line analysis, right? On the top level, Bernie Sanders
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won and his supporters are radicals and that is scary, right? That's the top line.
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Bernie voters are on another level. Bernie campaign supporters are on another level.
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Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union, okay? When it looked like Bernie won,
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his supporters all came out in New Hampshire and they chanted about how a whole nother world
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We are unstoppable. Another world is possible. This is what leftist radicals chant all the time.
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They chanted it at Occupy Wall Street. They chanted it at all of the radical movements that we've seen
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in recent years. And that's a scary thing because it's telling you that they are these utopians,
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these revolutionaries, these radicals. Another world is not possible. We're not going to overturn
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human nature. We're not going to go back to the Garden of Eden. We're not going to have heaven on
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earth. It's just not going to happen. And when people try to pursue those goals through politics,
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usually that leads to widespread human suffering. So that's very scary.
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Also scary is that Bernie's campaign volunteers want to throw all of us into gulags.
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What are we going to do with those people that resist the change?
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Well, I'll tell you what. In Cuba, what do they do to reactionaries?
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Do you want to fight against the revolution? You're going to die for it.
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There it is. That's a guy who works for the Bernie Sanders campaign and apparently still
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works for the Bernie Sanders campaign. James O'Keefe released that video of the guy saying,
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yeah, they're getting the gulag, they're getting the wall. And apparently he still works for them.
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So that's pretty scary that a campaign of that kind of radicalism won. Okay.
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The good news is that this probably finished off the other radical who was in the race,
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which is Elizabeth Warren. Liz Warren needed to do well in New Hampshire. Liz Warren is from
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Massachusetts. Massachusetts candidates need to do well in New Hampshire, right over there,
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their neighbor in the Northeast. And she didn't. She did really badly in New Hampshire.
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She bombed in Iowa. She bombed in New Hampshire. It's not looking good in upcoming states. At this
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point, probably Liz Warren is running a zombie campaign and Trump took the opportunity to spike
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the football. I love that. Of all the tweets he sent out yesterday, he sent out a lot of really
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funny tweets. This is my favorite one. Quote, Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas,
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is having a really bad night. I think she is sending signals that she wants out.
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But calling for unity is her way of getting there, going home and having a nice cold beer with her
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husband. He's referring to that really cringe-inducing social media video where Liz Warren
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pretended to be a regular old gal and she had what I assume was her first sip of beer ever.
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And then she very awkwardly hugged her husband and said, thank you for being here in their own home.
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Everything about it was very, very bizarre. And of course, Trump is just absolutely rubbing salt
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into that wound. He's saying Liz Warren is sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, mostly by him. And he's
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got these little puns in here. She's sending signals like she's sending smoke signals. And it's
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just a really, really funny way of enjoying the last days of her campaign. The other good news
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is that the fake moderate, he's not really a moderate, but at least he's running right now as a
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moderate. Pete Buttigieg basically tied Bernie Sanders. He won slightly fewer votes, probably
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won the same number of delegates. This happened in Iowa. In Iowa, Bernie Sanders got more votes than
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Pete Buttigieg and yet Pete Buttigieg got more delegates. That's just the way the nominating
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process works. The other good news about that, that you've now got this radical and this fake
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moderate who are pretty much tied. The good news about that is that fake moderate Pete Buttigieg
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has a zero percent chance of beating Donald Trump in November. Zero percent, not, not 10%,
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not 5%, a zero percent chance. Pete Buttigieg is a small town mayor. He has zero accomplishments.
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He's never done anything. He has crucially a bad reputation on racial issues, which will kill you
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in any party, but certainly in the identity politics obsessed Democratic Party today, having any whiff
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of a bad reputation on race politics, not very good. And this is the politically incorrect thing
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to say. His sexual preferences are going to hurt him, if not make him unelectable as a Democrat in
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You're not allowed to say it, except even the New York Times admits it. Pete Buttigieg's sexual
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preferences are going to hurt him specifically within the Democratic Party. Now, that seems odd,
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doesn't it? Because the Democratic Party seems so progressive on sexual questions. Yes and no.
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What the New York Times pointed out in October is, quote, as Pete Buttigieg courts black voters,
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his sexuality is a hurdle for some. Because historically, specifically among black voters,
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sexual revolutionary politics, you know, kind of the sexual liberation movement of the 1960s,
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which includes homosexuality, is not particularly popular. The Buttigieg campaign acknowledged this
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too, circulated a memo saying that homosexuality was going to hurt him in South Carolina. The reason
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it's going to hurt him in South Carolina is because that's really the first state where any
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of these candidates have to win over black voters. It's why Joe Biden is trying to hang on to his
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campaign until South Carolina is because he's the only candidate who does well with black voters.
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Regardless of your feelings on this matter, that is what it means politically. And so he's got a number
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of flaws. I mean, if he had a huge name, if he had a huge list of accomplishments, maybe that would be
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able to overcome some of those other political flaws. But right now, probably not the case. So for the
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candidates who still have a pulse, the leading moderate candidate has fundamental political flaws.
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Buttigieg is such a weak, moderate front runner that Amy Klobuchar in New Hampshire jumped to third
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place simply by not being completely insane, which is high praise in the 2020 Democratic primary. Simply by
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saying on the debate stage that maybe we shouldn't kill all the babies. Simply by saying on the debate
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stage, maybe, maybe the Democratic nominee shouldn't be an open, avowed socialist. Simply by doing that,
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she jumped from nothing to third place. Amy Klobuchar, if you just look at her and listen to her,
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is a terrible retail candidate. She's awkward on the campaign trail. She's stiff. She repeats the
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same awkward jokes. She's not a good candidate, okay? Somebody like a Barack Obama or a Ronald Reagan,
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these really great campaigners, she is not. And yet she's jumping up that moderate lane.
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The reason she's spiking up is because Buttigieg just doesn't have it. So who's going to stop
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Bernie? The only person left in the New Hampshire field who can stop Bernie is Joe Biden. But the
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Biden campaign collapsed last night. The Biden campaign came in fifth. Humiliating. He didn't
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need to win New Hampshire, but he needed a second or at least a third place finish. And he came in
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fifth. Absolutely pathetic. His campaign is trying to spin it. Probably right now it's over. Here's Joe
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Biden trying to protest, trying to explain why his absolutely empty campaign is still going to hobble
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along. We just heard from the first two of 50 states. Two of them. Not all the nation. Not half
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the nation. Not a quarter of the nation. Not 10%. Two. Two. Now where I come from, that's the opening
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bell. Not the closing bell. So when you hear all these pundits and experts, cable TV talkers talked
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about the race. Tell them it ain't over, man. We're just getting started. It ain't over, man. Who
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are you trying to convince Joe Biden? This is the telltale sign of a weak campaign is when they go out
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there and say, hey, look, we just heard from two random states. Okay. Look, just two random states.
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Oh, you mean the two, perhaps the two most important states to determining who the party nominee is going
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to be Iowa and New Hampshire. I mean, not the only two important states to determine that, but two
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very important ones. So the radical is winning and the moderates are too weak to stop him.
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And the only guy out here who might win the general election got clobbered the hardest. This is
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just terrible news for the democratic party, but it's great news for the secret moderate who all the
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democratic elites are rallying behind now. And that is Mike Bloomberg. Mike Bloomberg wasn't on
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the ballot in New Hampshire. He got into the race too late to do that. He's not, I don't think he's
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going to be on the ballot in Nevada or South Carolina. So the first four states, the really
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important ones, he's not even going to be there. But Mike Bloomberg has infinite money. He has all of
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the money. He's already spent three or $400 million getting into this race. That's why his numbers have
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shot through the roof. He already spent money buying off the DNC. He made max contributions to the
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Democratic National Committee right before he got in. That's why they changed the debate rules to let
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him into the next debate. This guy is now laying low and waiting. And because of the flaws of every
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single moderate, so-called moderate candidate in the race, Buttigieg, Biden, Klobuchar, because of that,
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he has a chance to enter the race late. But Mike Bloomberg can't beat Trump. He can't do it.
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If given the choice between two New York billionaires, you got one New York billionaire
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who is a soda-stealing, gun-grabbing, Chardonnay-sipping, cigarette-stopping, nanny state
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scold, and a successful, funny TV host, who are you going to pick? Who are Americans going to want
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to see for the next season of the White House? It's probably going to be President Trump.
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The other reason, it's actually two more reasons why Trump beats Bloomberg. The two reasons are,
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one, Bloomberg will be viewed by the progressive base as having stolen the election, regardless of
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what really happens. You saw the progressives get their election stolen in 2016 through Bernie Sanders.
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You're seeing it happen again now in Iowa and New Hampshire. So they're going to see Bloomberg as this
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guy parachuting in, stealing the election from him. The second reason that Bloomberg doesn't beat Trump
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is that Bloomberg cannot convincingly make the case that Trump is scary or dangerous. And I'll show you
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how. Trump actually, he sent out a tweet where he gave Mike Bloomberg his new mean nickname called
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Mini Mike, and that's what everyone's focusing on. They're not focusing on the second part of the
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doesn't beat Trump. And you need both of them at the same time. One is Bloomberg is just going to
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be viewed so suspiciously as having stolen it from the progressives. But two, he can't make the case
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that Trump is scary. Trump sends out this tweet. It says, quote, Mini Mike is a short ball, very
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hitter. I love the syntax, the grammar. It doesn't, it doesn't seem grammatical, but it does work in a
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tweet. He's a short ball hitter, meaning when he golfs, but he's also saying he's short, very short.
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Tiny clubhead speed. Keep America great. So the tweet is just unsubtly calling Mike Bloomberg short.
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And Mike Bloomberg is very short. I've been in rooms and at events with Mike Bloomberg.
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They're saying on the internet that he's 5'8 or 5'10 or something. Not even close.
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Not even close. Like he's a, he's a petite man, much smaller than people even realize right now.
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So that's the tweet, right? Tweet is that he's short. The genius of this tweet is not calling
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him short. President Trump does this. He makes fun of people and their physical attributes and it
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works. It's distasteful. We don't like it, but it totally, totally works. Okay. And maybe that's
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just where we are in 2020. That's not the genius though. Giving him a nickname. Okay. He was obviously
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going to do that. The genius of the tweet is showing that Mike Bloomberg and President Trump have
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golfed together. I think on multiple occasions, the genius of the tweet is showing that Mike
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Bloomberg doesn't really think Trump is scary. Mike Bloomberg was palling around with Trump
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just a little while ago. It's actually one of the reasons that Hillary Clinton couldn't really make
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the case that Trump is so scary is because Hillary Clinton went to his wedding, right? It's that they
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were, they kind of palled around. She asked him for donations. It's just, it totally blunted the attack
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that Trump is Hitler. Trump is a Nazi. Trump is a fascist, right? Well, if he's a fascist,
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why are you playing golf with him? Why are you going to his wedding? It's one of the real advantages
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to having this celebrity guy, this pop culture figure in running for your nomination is everyone
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knows him. We all know him, the voters, and even the people who are running against him have palled
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around with him before. So I think it's a really smart way to keep getting that in there. It's like,
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look, I know these people. All right. They're all BSing you right now that I'm such a scary guy.
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So that pretty much damages all of the candidates who were in New Hampshire and even a candidate who
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wasn't in New Hampshire. Who won? Bernie did fine, but he effectively tied with Buttigieg.
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Buttigieg, Warren, and Klobuchar can't win a general election. Joe Biden can't win the primary.
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Bloomberg, I strongly suspect, cannot rally that progressive Bernie base around him or beat Trump.
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So it looks pretty good. Looks like President Trump did very well in New Hampshire,
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but you don't need to take my word for it. Obviously, look, I think the president's doing
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a good job. I support him. So I want to make sure that I'm not just looking at this through the lens
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of my preferences or wishful thinking, but you can look at the exit polls and it all seems to back
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this up. Okay. The numbers from the exit polling showed that turnout was down from 2016.
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Like in some cases, significantly down, but Trump won in 2016. So if the, the way that Democrats win
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this time is for turnout to be way up and enthusiasm to be way up and all those people who stayed home
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in 2016 because they hated Hillary Clinton, they're going to turn out to the polls this time,
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right? Because they hate Trump so much, except that's not what we're seeing. If this is a referendum
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on Donald Trump, Donald Trump's going to win. The Democrats are less excited this time than they
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were last time, according to the exit polls. That, that ends the election. If that, if that keeps
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up even worse for Democrats, even worse, turnout is especially down among young voters. So one of
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the arguments you hear from people who say that Trump isn't going to get reelected or they're
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Democrats and they don't like Trump, they'll say, look, the reason Trump's going to lose this time
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is because all the young people are going to turn out. There's going to be so many more young voters
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this year, just in terms of voter eligibility and enthusiasm to go vote that Trump's going to get
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clobbered. Well, that doesn't seem to be what's borne out by the exit polls. What the exit polls are
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showing is not only are there not more young voters this time, there are fewer. They're actually less
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interested in this election than they were last time. In, in 2016, young voters made up 19% of the
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New Hampshire Democratic primary vote. That's down to 11% this year. It's a major cut. It's a major
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reduction. Adding to that, you've got some polls showing President Trump making inroads with black
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and Hispanic voters. And it's not just one or two polls. It's three polls, four polls showing big
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inroads with, with black voters, especially. Who knows if those polls are, are right or not. But if he
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makes any inroads with them, then the Democratic Party is in a bad place. The Democratic Party needs
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to have a lock, especially in the black vote, but they need to do very, very well with Hispanics as
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well in order to win. And it looks like all the numbers are going the other direction. So what are
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the takeaways from New Hampshire? Weak front runner and division among the moderate wing, moderate wing.
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Lower voter enthusiasm, lower youth enthusiasm, and a possible loss of critical minority support.
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Those are all bad headlines for Democrats coming out of New Hampshire. All great headlines
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for Trump and Republicans. MSNBC accidentally showed some evidence of this, that 2020 might not
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be going the way they wanted. They accidentally showed it when they were in New Hampshire. They're
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trying to interview all these Democratic primary voters. So they actually forgot that there was a
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Republican primary. You forget it because the incumbent is going to win the primary, but they're
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out there talking and say, Oh, Hey, which of these fun candidates, Bernie or Klobuchar, which one did
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you vote for, sir? And they didn't like his answer. We have a voter out here. Sir, you're going, you were
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watching, so you're going to be on television now. Can you tell us who you voted for? Donald John Trump.
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You voted for Donald John Trump. Yeah. Look at that. Bernie Sanders is not appealing to you.
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The whole ideology would be destructive to the country. It's anti-growth. It's anti-family.
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It's anti-American. And as a Roman Catholic, it's anti-life.
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being covered in the news because there's really only one candidate, but it's big. You know,
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Trump technically had primary candidates in the Republican party. It's just nobody remembers them
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because they never had a shot. On the Republican side of the New Hampshire primary, Donald Trump
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outperformed all of his predecessors, all of them in terms of numbers. He outperformed
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his predecessors in terms of the share of the vote. Last night when there were about 54% of
00:27:38.580
precincts reporting, so just over half of the votes were in, President Trump had already received more
00:27:45.280
raw votes than Barack Obama, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan in their reelection campaigns in New
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Hampshire. Half the vote was in and he had gotten more votes. Now, Bill Clinton had also done pretty
00:28:01.580
well in his reelection campaign, but by the time 62% of the vote was in, Trump beat Bill Clinton in terms
00:28:09.620
of raw votes. He likely beat the voting percentages of the last three incumbent presidents who won
00:28:20.900
reelection. That is a big number. It shows enthusiasm, right? You had a night where Democratic
00:28:29.980
enthusiasm was down, key constituencies among the Democrats' enthusiasm were down, and enthusiasm to
00:28:36.580
go to a poll that you don't need to go to, right? The president is the incumbent, he's going to win
00:28:41.480
the primary. Enthusiasm to go to even that primary poll, way up. I mean, you see it at these rallies.
00:28:48.220
You look at a Joe Biden rally, he's got like five people at it, and half of them are asleep.
00:28:52.260
You look at a Trump rally, it's stadiums full of people. And I know that that's not data, right?
00:28:56.860
Those are just anecdotes because it's one event here, one event there, one event there. But you just
00:29:01.180
look at the enthusiasm. Maybe you can't measure that, but you can see it. It's real.
00:29:05.540
Well, that's what we saw last night in New Hampshire. So it was a big night for Bernie in
00:29:10.520
that it showed that there was this committed progressive base. He did win the state. But
00:29:15.660
the division among the Democrats, and then further division among the moderates, and then the total
00:29:21.800
suppression of enthusiasm compared with Trump gives the state, I think, gives the night to
00:29:27.200
President Trump. There was a really sad moment too last night. Andrew Yang dropped out of the race,
00:29:32.500
another one bites the dust. Another candidate dropped out too, actually, Senator Michael Bennett,
00:29:36.920
who none of you knew was even running, so that doesn't matter. But Andrew Yang dropped out. He
00:29:40.280
was a kind of interesting candidate, at least on Twitter. At least he made people interested
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on the internet. Some conservatives are lamenting the end of his campaign. I am not. I think he
00:29:51.640
proposed one of the worst, most destructive, most degrading ideas that any candidate has floated
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in the entire race. That would be the thousand dollars a month, the universal basic income.
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you need for 2020. Dailywire.com. We'll be right back. Andrew Yang dropped out. The Yang gang is over.
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We knew it would happen. It was inevitable. He was a sort of amusing candidate, but I, I wanted to take
00:31:34.780
a moment to stomp on the grave of the Yang campaign because I think some conservatives are taking their
00:31:42.140
amusement with the Yang campaign too far or their, their pleasure that he's a sort of nice, nice seeming
00:31:49.000
guy too far. He might be a nice guy. I don't, I don't know Andrew Yang. I don't particularly care if
00:31:55.220
he's a nice guy. What he was proposing as a candidate was one of the worst ideas that any candidate was
00:32:01.120
floating in the race. His idea, the only actual idea that his campaign had was to buy votes.
00:32:07.720
It was to pay people a thousand dollars a month, pay everybody a thousand dollars a month, buy their
00:32:11.760
vote, and that's it. It's so insidious. It's such a wicked, anti-American, anti-human, and degrading
00:32:18.720
idea that I just want to stomp it out. It's called the universal basic income. There are different
00:32:23.780
versions of this. He called his the freedom dividend. The idea being we're a really rich country,
00:32:29.580
so let's take money from some people and give everyone a thousand dollars a month.
00:32:33.680
Now, the good version, or the better version of this proposal is that you're going to eliminate
00:32:38.880
the entire welfare state. All the entitlement programs are gone, and then you're going to pay
00:32:43.080
people a thousand dollars a month, and then that'll be really good. You'll save money, people get to
00:32:47.260
choose how to spend their money, and everybody wins, right? No, everybody doesn't win, everybody
00:32:52.080
loses. First of all, the numbers don't work. You can't actually eliminate the welfare state
00:32:56.440
and offset that by paying people a thousand dollars a month. Even if you could, it's politically
00:33:01.940
impossible, because the whole point of the welfare state is that we're not going to have people dying
00:33:05.800
in the streets in a civilized country. So you give everybody a thousand dollars a month, we know that
00:33:12.560
the poor will always be with us. We know that people will always make irresponsible decisions with
00:33:16.620
their money, at least some portion of people. And so some people are going to blow through that
00:33:19.900
thousand dollars a month. Then what? They're going to need more assistance. Are we going to tell
00:33:23.180
them tough luck, too bad, live on the street, hope you do well? No, nobody's going to do that. Only
00:33:27.980
in the wildest fever dreams of libertarian teenagers does anybody actually say, sorry, buster, you're out
00:33:36.040
of luck. So what you would really get is you pay everybody a thousand dollars a month, and you still
00:33:39.900
have the welfare and entitlement state. Politically, it's impossible to change that. Even if you could,
00:33:45.680
it would still be a wicked, evil, degrading, destructive system, because you are then making
00:33:53.100
welfare dependence out of every single American. You are getting every single American hooked on the
00:33:59.160
government dole. You are degrading them. You are making those people unable to stand on their own
00:34:06.980
two feet. It'd be like getting them hooked on a drug. You're just slowly getting them hooked on that
00:34:12.140
drug. And the government, as Ronald Reagan said, very rightly, the government that is big enough to
00:34:16.500
give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. When the government is
00:34:20.820
giving you a lot of money, that's not just a gift outright. That's not just a wonderful grace or manna
00:34:25.760
from heaven. That is a means of political control. Because once you get comfortable with that 12 grand a
00:34:33.160
year, then you're not going to want to lose it. When the government starts making demands of you
00:34:39.460
in exchange for that 12 grand a year, you're going to have to do them. A horrible idea. I hope it's
00:34:45.800
an idea that is dead. I hope it never comes back. And I'm very glad that the Andrew Yang campaign is
00:34:51.760
over, even though I will miss the memes. The memes were very funny. When Andrew Yang dropped out,
00:34:58.260
he made a very nice statement. Doesn't cover up for this terrible idea he had. Michael Bennett also
00:35:02.860
dropped out, but nobody knows. So that's fine. There was some good news before we go. I have to talk
00:35:08.500
about some good news for our criminal justice system, moving away from 2020 politics into the
00:35:15.760
nuts and bolts of law and order. Finally, after months and months of investigations, of great crack
00:35:25.180
police work, we have caught Jussie Smollett's attacker. We caught him. Jussie Smollett's attacker
00:35:34.600
is being brought to justice. And of course, Jussie Smollett's attacker is Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett
00:35:41.460
is that actor from that show who pretended to get attacked in Chicago in the middle of the night
00:35:46.020
by two MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters while he was holding his Subway sandwich. And the Trump
00:35:53.840
supporters came up behind him and beat him up and put a noose around his neck and said, this is MAGA
00:35:57.940
country. Because nothing says MAGA country like the South side of Chicago. And nothing about this
00:36:03.220
made any sense. For some reason, he still had the noose around his neck when the cops got there
00:36:06.940
later. And for some reason, he was holding his Subway sandwich the entire time. So Smollett,
00:36:12.720
oh, then it turned out that it was actually Smollett's friends and trainers who he had paid
00:36:16.300
off to stage the attack. And it turned out that they were Nigerian men, so probably not white
00:36:21.300
supremacists. Trouble with this whole case is it just got swept under the rug. It looked like there
00:36:26.840
were political favors called in. Jussie Smollett was a favorite of certain prominent Democratic
00:36:31.480
politicians, and it was just going to go away. Luckily, a special Cook County grand jury handed
00:36:38.260
down a new indictment on Tuesday. This was after a six-month investigation by special prosecutor
00:36:43.140
Dan Webb. The special prosecutor said in a statement that Smollett had filed four false police reports
00:36:51.860
claiming that he was the victim of a hate crime. And that is certainly what happened. Quote,
00:36:55.880
the grand jury's investigation revealed that Smollett planned and participated in a staged
00:36:59.600
hate crime attack and thereafter made numerous false statements to Chicago Police Department
00:37:03.260
officers on multiple occasions, reporting a heinous hate crime that he, in fact, knew had not occurred.
00:37:08.440
I'm very glad he's being brought to justice. It's very important. You know, in any criminal justice
00:37:12.620
system, you need to have justice. We don't think about that anymore. We think that the whole purpose of
00:37:19.560
the criminal justice system is to rehabilitate people. It's like therapy, basically. It's just
00:37:25.020
another form of therapy that involves handcuffs. Or we think that the secondary purpose of the
00:37:30.700
criminal justice system is to deter crime. Also a worthwhile goal. But the primary purpose
00:37:38.020
is justice. Justice involves some punishment. Not excessive punishment. I don't want to lock away
00:37:47.340
Jussie Smollett and throw away the key. I don't think he should get capital punishment, right? That would be
00:37:51.860
so excessive. That wouldn't be justice. But likewise, he should not get off the hook. Justice
00:37:57.060
is the key. And we forget this. In the Federalist Papers, you know, I'm going to be covering the
00:38:00.720
Federalist Papers on the book club show, in the show that I have at PragerU. That's going to be
00:38:06.100
coming up in a little bit. I was just rereading them. And the Federalist Papers, the people who
00:38:11.800
designed our constitution, made it very clear that the end of government is justice. It's not
00:38:19.280
unfettered individual liberty. It's not equality. It's not redistributing everybody's property. It's
00:38:24.480
justice. So what is justice? Well, it's giving to everybody what they deserve. It's a tricky
00:38:33.360
balance. In this case, justice had been too lenient. Okay, that was why it was an injustice. And now,
00:38:40.980
luckily, we're coming back to something that is more reasonable. There's another case in our criminal
00:38:45.180
justice system that was in the other direction. Roger Stone, a longtime GOP operative. He's kind
00:38:51.760
of fashioned this image for himself as a dirty trickster. That's kind of his media personality.
00:38:57.580
But he's a GOP political consultant. He's worked on a zillion campaigns. He worked for Richard Nixon.
00:39:03.720
He worked for Ronald Reagan. Worked for a lot of other candidates. Roger Stone, longtime advisor
00:39:09.680
to Donald Trump. Longtime friend of Donald Trump. So when Donald Trump runs for president, Stone is
00:39:16.580
involved in the early stages. Although Trump ended up firing Stone early on, he felt that Stone was
00:39:23.260
just trying to get attention and he was more of a media figure than a real political operative at
00:39:27.680
the national level. That was the statement Trump gave. So he fired him. Because Stone has this
00:39:33.960
reputation, this public persona, and because he had committed the unforgivable crime of working for
00:39:39.040
Donald Trump at any point. Roger Stone gets brought in by the Mueller investigation, that hoax, that sham,
00:39:45.700
that found nothing. And he gets charged for lying to Congress, for making false statements. Not charged
00:39:54.620
with selling the country to Russia. Not charged with treason. Not charged with bribery. Not charged with
00:40:00.540
really serious crimes. Not charged with lying to Congress and witness tampering and obstruction of
00:40:09.340
a proceeding. So look, these are real offenses, but they're not high crimes and misdemeanors, right?
00:40:16.900
So the prosecutors who were going after Roger Stone, who maybe had some political views of their own
00:40:23.320
that were opposed to Roger Stone, they wanted to sentence this 70-year-old man to nine years in prison.
00:40:30.540
Because he worked for Trump, then he got caught up in this bogus, hoax, criminal investigation. I mean,
00:40:38.260
when I say criminal investigation, I mean it was a crime that the damn investigation happened in the
00:40:42.180
first place. This Mueller investigation, this Russia hoax, he gets caught up in that because he
00:40:47.080
worked for Trump. And then he makes false statements during that investigation. And then they want to
00:40:52.620
throw him in jail for nine years, which is effectively the rest of his life, right? When you're 70 years old
00:40:58.560
and you're going to prison for nine years, that's it. Not a whole lot after that because,
00:41:05.160
because they don't like him. I mean, that's really what this was about. So that's what the
00:41:09.840
prosecutors wanted to do. The DOJ intervened. They said, this is ridiculous. What are you talking
00:41:13.740
about? Nine years in prison? No way. So they said, you've got to reduce that sentencing,
00:41:17.720
what you're asking for. And four prosecutors quit. And, and it's being portrayed in the mainstream
00:41:22.060
media as though these prosecutors, the great defenders of law and order,
00:41:24.620
those prosecutors, good. I'm glad they quit. Could you, if any other prosecutors agree with
00:41:30.420
them, they should quit too. Because that, that would, would have been a miscarriage of justice
00:41:34.680
to throw Roger Stone in the clink for nine years, for the rest of his life. You're effectively
00:41:38.980
sentencing him to life in prison because of your bureaucratic hoax investigation that got him
00:41:49.160
caught up in it. And then he made false statements. I'm not saying Roger Stone should get off the
00:41:52.020
hook completely. All right. He did commit some offenses here. He did make these false statements.
00:41:57.400
So the only way he should get off the hook completely is if he gets a presidential pardon.
00:42:01.420
I'm not saying the prosecutor should totally drop everything, but nine years is excessive.
00:42:06.340
Justice requires some balance. Justice requires understanding what people really deserve,
00:42:14.080
not being too harsh and excessive, but not being too lenient either. Also in the Federalist,
00:42:19.200
I was reading one of the great lines of the whole Federalist papers, you know, the key document to
00:42:24.900
understanding our constitution. In it, the author writes, nothing can be, I'm paraphrasing, but roughly
00:42:32.700
it says, nothing can be more foolish than founding our politics on arithmetical principles. Meaning you
00:42:41.960
can't just have a completely hard and fast scientific rule when we're talking about politics and government.
00:42:47.940
You need to, it just requires too much understanding for that kind of rigid ideological precision.
00:42:55.280
And in this case, if you stick to some rigid, the max sentence you can get for the guy,
00:43:00.480
it's just as clearly unjust. And the DOJ recognized that. I think the whole Trump administration has,
00:43:07.720
has kind of been realizing that. And I think it's terrific. Harsher sentence for Smollett,
00:43:12.200
a lighter sentence for Roger Stone. Make sure justice is served in both, but make sure it's
00:43:18.180
justice and not just political revenge. Before we get out of here, I've got to,
00:43:23.580
I've got to drive the point home about New Hampshire. Because I know, I, I just want to make
00:43:29.060
sure that I'm not overstating the case here, that it was such a bad night for Democrats.
00:43:33.120
But I, I realized I'm not, not just because of the exit polling, not just because of that Trump
00:43:39.380
voter that MSNBC accidentally found, not just because of the relative voter enthusiasm, but
00:43:44.880
also on MSNBC, Chris Matthews, he came out and he said what, what I think a lot of Democrats are
00:43:52.240
thinking, which is if this is how it all keeps up, Democrats are not going to win in 2020.
00:43:57.060
They're regular center left Democrats who are not angry about the rich. They just want to be secure
00:44:02.960
in their own economy and their own lives and see their kids once in a while. If that's the case,
00:44:08.740
Trump is going to be tough to beat. So I don't know. I think in either case, I think it's going
00:44:13.740
to be tough to beat Trump. I don't know where the democratic parties ideologically shifted as far
00:44:18.060
to the progressive side as Bernie believes, I think it will. And I think that's the big question.
00:44:23.360
You heard it from Chris Matthews, you heard it from New Hampshire voters,
00:44:26.340
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