The Michael Knowles Show - February 20, 2020


Ep. 498 - Bloomberg Blew It


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

186.33473

Word Count

8,705

Sentence Count

686

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Bloomberg smacks Bernie, Warren scalped him, and Joe Biden wrecked himself. We examine the highlights from the wildest 2020 Democratic debate so far, and specifically how Mike Bloomberg fundamentally misunderstands the presidency. Then, AOC wants billionaires to disappear, and the moralists of modernity at Slate Magazine can t quite explain why it s wrong to sleep with your brother. All that and more, coming up on The Michael Knowles Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Bloomberg smacked Bernie, Warren scalped Bloomberg, and Joe Biden wrecked himself.
00:00:06.460 We will examine the highlights from the wildest 2020 Democratic debate so far,
00:00:11.280 and specifically how Mike Bloomberg fundamentally misunderstands the presidency.
00:00:16.280 Then, AOC wants billionaires to disappear, and the moralists of modernity at Slate Magazine
00:00:21.960 can't quite explain why it's wrong to sleep with your brother.
00:00:25.960 All that and more, I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:30.000 Oh boy, is there a lot to get to. Mike Bloomberg finally makes the Democratic debates interesting.
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00:02:25.120 All right. What a crazy debate. Everybody came out of this debate looking terrible. The radicals,
00:02:34.340 the liberals, the billionaires, the everybody looked terrible, but especially, especially Mike
00:02:40.160 Bloomberg. And this was to be expected. This started right out the door of the debate.
00:02:46.400 Mike Bloomberg shows up. Everybody is going after him and Bloomberg simply wasn't prepared. So Warren
00:02:52.400 kicked it all off by attempting, she later completed this, but she attempted to just absolutely end
00:02:58.720 Bloomberg's campaign before it began.
00:03:00.300 I'd like to talk about who we're running against, a billionaire who calls women fat broads
00:03:06.740 and horse-faced lesbians. And no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about Mayor
00:03:12.180 Bloomberg. Democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax
00:03:21.720 returns, of harassing women, and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and frisk.
00:03:29.740 All right. Bloomberg's team completely blew this if they did not prepare him for this question. This
00:03:35.320 was obviously going to be a big question because it's very difficult to attack Mike Bloomberg. He's
00:03:40.800 had an extremely successful career. He's a Democrat, so he holds most of the politically correct
00:03:45.620 political positions. But because he runs any large enterprise, there are these NDAs and obviously there's
00:03:52.220 always HR issues. So they're going to try to portray Mike Bloomberg, who's a very good manager of
00:03:57.780 these enterprises as some kind of sexual predator. Because what? Because he made a joke 20 years ago
00:04:02.880 or something. Bloomberg should have seen that coming. His team didn't prep him. No surprise that
00:04:06.960 the geniuses who thought that a campaign strategy was putting Bloomberg's face on a meatball on social
00:04:12.400 media, that somehow they would botch debate prep. But what's so crazy about that moment is Bloomberg
00:04:20.400 could have seen it coming because it's the exact moment that happened to Trump in his debate
00:04:25.540 four years ago. And you remember that first debate, Trump comes out there, everyone's gunning for
00:04:30.840 Trump, and they tried to hit him on the same thing. They said, you've made mean jokes about women. And
00:04:35.980 Megyn Kelly was the moderator and she said, Mr. President, or he wasn't president then, said, Mr. Trump,
00:04:41.480 you've called women fat and ugly and terrible. And instead of doing what Mike Bloomberg did, which was
00:04:46.560 wilt and don't say anything, and then you say, I'm sorry, Trump leaned right into it.
00:04:51.600 You've called women. You don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.
00:04:58.780 Your Twitter account. Only Rosie O'Donnell.
00:05:02.980 No, it wasn't.
00:05:06.220 One of the most memorable lines in presidential debates, and I remember watching it in real time
00:05:12.880 in 2016 and thinking, oh man, this guy's really got something. This guy is not going to be pushed
00:05:18.860 around. This guy understands how to play the media. And Bloomberg blew it. Now, Bloomberg couldn't have
00:05:23.820 used the exact same line. He couldn't, they couldn't have said, you, Mike Bloomberg, you've called
00:05:28.200 women horse-faced lesbians. And then Bloomberg leans in and says, only Susie in accounting. Yeah,
00:05:34.080 right. That, that obviously isn't going to work, but he could have gotten aggressive.
00:05:38.460 Okay. If this is going to be the line of attack on brash New York billionaires, which is that they
00:05:42.560 make off color jokes, he could have leaned into it and gone on the attack and been even more brash and
00:05:47.300 said, you know, Elizabeth, you're one of the most notorious liars in the country. You lied about
00:05:51.720 your DNA for decades and took jobs away from native Americans. You lied about where your kids go to
00:05:56.160 school. You lied about being fired for being pregnant. So excuse me, if I don't take you
00:06:03.160 seriously, I'm, I shouldn't be surprised that you would lie about me too. If he just leaned in and made
00:06:08.360 it an attack, I think people would have stood up and loved him for it. You know, nobody wants this
00:06:14.300 awful lying, dishonest woman to Hector, some guy who's had a very successful career in business.
00:06:21.680 That doesn't look good to most Americans, but if she's going to be able to push him around, then she's
00:06:27.120 going to win the exchange, which is exactly what happened. On the issues, not the style necessarily,
00:06:33.940 but the issues, Bloomberg was actually pretty good. I mean, this was by far the best he did all night.
00:06:39.060 He got some pretty good zingers in at Bernie Sanders and Bernie was really going after him for
00:06:45.220 being a billionaire. And you remember Bernie Sanders used to go after the millionaires and
00:06:50.000 billionaires, but then Bernie made over a million dollars. So all of a sudden the millionaires were
00:06:54.640 okay. And it was only the billionaires. I mean, Bernie Sanders, a total fraud and Mike Bloomberg
00:06:59.680 called him out for it. He had one of the great lines of the night. He said, what a great country we live
00:07:04.280 in, that the most famous socialist in the country is a millionaire with three houses.
00:07:10.440 What a wonderful country we have. The best known socialists in the country happens to be a
00:07:15.620 millionaire with three houses. What'd I miss here? Well, you'll miss that I work in Washington,
00:07:21.480 house one. That's the first problem. Live in Burlington, house two. That's good. And like
00:07:25.700 thousands of other Vermonters, I do have a summer camp. Forgive me for that. Where is your home?
00:07:30.440 Which tax, which tax haven do you have your home? New York City. Thank you very much.
00:07:35.400 And I pay all my taxes. Oh my gosh. Absolutely a devastating response because
00:07:41.180 Bernie is an obvious fraud. Okay. He is a multimillionaire, right? He's got all these houses
00:07:48.200 and yet he's claims to be a man of the people and a socialist. This is a guy who's
00:07:52.360 hasn't done any productive work in his entire life. He was a vagrant who got kicked off of a commune.
00:08:00.140 Then he realized that his best chance at success was working in government. And then he did that
00:08:04.480 for the rest of his life. And then he whined and complained. He didn't even accomplish anything there
00:08:07.700 in, in government itself. So Bloomberg goes out, he goes, yeah, Bernie, you're a complete fraud and
00:08:13.660 you're a millionaire and you have multiple houses. And Bernie had no answer for that. Bernie said,
00:08:18.500 okay, well, yeah, I work in Washington. Uh, and Bloomberg, you got that New York, that dry just hits.
00:08:24.320 He goes, yeah, that's the first problem. He goes, and, and Bloomberg didn't have an answer or
00:08:28.800 Bernie rather didn't have an answer for his third home because it's a summer home.
00:08:33.100 He goes, well, I have a summer home. Like, you know, so many Americans do so many Americans have
00:08:37.460 summer homes. Well, it's news to me. I guess I got to become one of those so many Americans
00:08:42.620 because I sure would love a summer home. So he really gets that zing in there. And even then he
00:08:47.180 tries to deflect it by hitting Bloomberg on having a tax haven, but Bloomberg doesn't live in a tax haven.
00:08:51.860 He lives in New York and pays extremely high taxes. So that was a great line.
00:08:55.300 A speaking of taxes, there was a wonderful exchange where Bernie said, you know, the
00:09:00.620 billionaires pay lower taxes than the middle class, which is simply not true. But Bloomberg
00:09:06.960 actually got a great line of attack and he leans in and he says, Bernie, who writes the tax code?
00:09:13.760 Right. Bloomberg just runs a business. Bernie Sanders is a Senator. It's the, it's the politicians
00:09:20.120 who write the tax code. Right. So then Bernie tries to flip. He says the billionaires write that. I mean,
00:09:24.460 the politicians at the behest of the billionaires write the tax code. So Bernie's admitting that the
00:09:29.840 politicians are all bought off. But then the, the punchline was Bloomberg leans in there. He says,
00:09:35.660 Bernie, most billionaires are Democrats. And they are. It's true. I think of the 10 richest people in,
00:09:41.500 in the country, seven of them are Democrats. There are two billionaires in the democratic
00:09:46.760 presidential primary right now, Mike Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. All the most famous billionaires we can
00:09:54.400 think of. Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, right? They all are leaning left. Mike Bloomberg.
00:09:59.880 They all lean left. They're virtually all Democrats. So these were all great, really good hits. Then
00:10:06.040 Bloomberg moves on from those good zingers and shows the radicalism of the democratic party because
00:10:12.600 he says, look guys, we're not going to destroy capitalism. We're not going to all of a sudden
00:10:18.560 become communist. Communism doesn't work. And do you know what happened? When Bloomberg said
00:10:23.580 communism doesn't work, he got booed by the audience and by the other candidates.
00:10:29.940 I can't think of a ways that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to
00:10:34.580 this conversation. It's ridiculous. We're not going to throw out capitalism. We tried that.
00:10:42.320 Other countries tried that. It was called communism and it just didn't work.
00:10:45.540 Oh, hold on a sec. You're going to go after communism now? Hold on. I don't know about that,
00:10:52.220 guys. You see Elizabeth Warren, it like pains her when he says communism just didn't work. She goes,
00:10:57.320 well, hold on. You look at Bernie. It looks like he's about to collapse. What do you mean communism
00:11:01.280 doesn't work? So it's a wild moment because five years ago, even five, five, six years ago,
00:11:09.580 if you had told me that a democratic debate would mention communism and an attack on communism would
00:11:16.180 get booed, I'd say, nah, that's crazy. That's too radical even for them. I mean, consider the fact
00:11:21.400 just in the Bloomberg questioning, the Democrats went wild for an attack over a sex joke,
00:11:29.860 but they booed an attack on communism. Liz Warren goes after Bloomberg because he made a joke about women
00:11:38.420 like once and wild applause. And then Bloomberg said, hey guys, I think communism is bad and
00:11:45.800 boos from the audience and from the other candidates. But Bloomberg was not deterred. He tripled down on
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00:13:01.340 So Bloomberg triples down on this, right? He is not going to get rid of economic freedom. He's not
00:13:09.740 going to get rid of capitalism. He's asked at one point by a moderator. This is pretty amazing.
00:13:16.920 Do you think that you should have made all that money that you made? Because I love when people
00:13:22.280 feel they're entitled to everybody else's stuff. And that's somehow virtuous, that the vice of envy
00:13:27.320 is now somehow a virtue on the left. But that's the question that's asked. Do you think
00:13:31.900 you should have made all that money? And Bloomberg says, you're damn right, I should have.
00:13:36.700 Mayor Bloomberg, should you exist? I can't speak for all billionaires. All I know is I've been very
00:13:41.960 lucky, made a lot of money, and I'm giving it all away to make this country better. And a good chunk
00:13:46.680 of it goes to the Democratic Party as well. Is it too much? Have you earned too much money?
00:13:52.380 Has it been an obscene amount of money? Should you have earned that much money?
00:13:55.960 Yes. I worked very hard for it. And I'm giving it away.
00:14:02.300 Great answer. I love too. Bloomberg has to catch it. He's like, by the way, I am using a lot of my
00:14:07.520 money to bribe the Democratic Party. Don't forget, it's not just that I'm making it and stimulating
00:14:12.380 the economy and donating to charity. I'm also bribing your party. So, you know, that's okay. That's the
00:14:17.580 only reason I'm in the debate right now is because I made a $300,000 donation to the Democrats
00:14:21.760 right before I got in the race. So just want to let you know, I'm using my money wisely.
00:14:26.540 Obviously, a little, a little grift and cronyism going on here in the Democrats, but he makes a
00:14:33.020 very good point. He goes, I worked very hard and I'm giving all my money away. Think about how much
00:14:37.640 money Mike Bloomberg gives to charity. He's one of the most philanthropic men in the country.
00:14:42.900 How much money do you give to charity? How much money does Chuck Todd give to charity? How much
00:14:47.120 money do any of the Democrats on stage? Bernie Sanders, oh my God, I don't know that guy ever gave
00:14:51.320 to charity. It's a pretty, pretty low amount according to his tax returns. So I like that
00:14:56.640 he tripled down on that. I thought Bloomberg made some good issue points. His style was not
00:15:02.680 terribly effective. I got a kick out of it as a New Yorker, but wasn't very effective.
00:15:06.600 Overall, the debate was a loser for Bloomberg. It was a, it was a big loser. And the reason is he
00:15:14.660 didn't accomplish the one thing that he was supposed to accomplish at this debate. He didn't
00:15:20.540 connect with voters. He did. That's the, why else would he have shown up to this debate? He was
00:15:25.680 already buying the primaries. His, his numbers were surging, even though he had never appeared on a
00:15:30.500 stage, right? He was just buying a ton of airtime, spent like half a billion dollars or something.
00:15:36.980 Why show up and open yourself up to all of these attacks, which he got? The only reason to do it
00:15:41.380 is to connect with voters, to show you're not afraid, to show that you got something here.
00:15:47.720 He didn't do that. If anything, he distanced himself from voters. Nowhere is that clearer than in his
00:15:54.760 response to a challenge, one of these dumb political challenges. They say, are you going to release
00:15:58.940 your tax returns? Now, I don't think politicians are obligated to release their tax returns. And
00:16:05.320 actually in the post-Trump era, I don't know that they will be required to, but it's one of these old
00:16:09.700 lines and they especially use it against businessmen because the tax returns of politicians are very
00:16:14.180 easy because they don't work in the productive economy. Whereas the tax returns of businessmen are
00:16:18.880 very complicated. And so there's a lot to pick apart and use in attack ads. And Bloomberg says, look,
00:16:24.140 okay, I'll release my tax returns, but I'm a billionaire with businesses all around the world.
00:16:29.780 It's not so easy. But he gave an answer that seemed pretty condescending and a little offensive
00:16:36.680 to the regular old American voter.
00:16:38.520 Your campaign has said that you would eventually release your tax records when it comes to transparency,
00:16:44.520 but people are already voting now. Why should democratic voters have to wait?
00:16:48.260 It just takes us a long time. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I make a lot of money and we do
00:16:56.660 business all around the world and we are preparing it. The number of pages will probably be thousands
00:17:02.280 of pages. I can't go to TurboTax. I got to tell you, I actually really liked this line. I thought it
00:17:08.300 was pretty funny because it's such an obvious point. It's like, look, guys, I, I know you think that
00:17:15.000 releasing my taxes is like, I click print on my computer, but I'm Michael Bloomberg. Okay. I have
00:17:21.300 got a ton of business interests everywhere. This will be thousands of pages long. And yeah, you can't,
00:17:26.920 you can't go to TurboTax, right? You can't walk to H&R Block and have them prepare your taxes.
00:17:31.340 A very funny line, but it's, it seems a little sneering too, right? So it's funny, like for a standup
00:17:38.280 and it's funny if you have a connection to voters, it's fine. I think Trump could have gotten away with
00:17:44.220 that line because Trump has this connection to voters. You have the real sense that Trump really
00:17:48.720 likes his voters. He really likes his supporters. He really likes his countrymen, right? You don't
00:17:54.040 get that sense with Bloomberg. And so with Bloomberg, it just emphasizes, it underlines the, the major
00:18:01.760 weakness of his campaign, which is that he seems like this elitist who doesn't like people, who
00:18:05.740 doesn't care about people, who doesn't, doesn't want to be listening to their concerns. So I'm,
00:18:10.940 I can't go to TurboTax like you little people, like you peasants. I'm Michael Bloomberg. So he
00:18:16.600 took a line that could have been pretty funny and, and just blew it because of his attitude.
00:18:22.820 Then he blew it worst of all. This was the moment nobody is talking about this,
00:18:27.140 but I actually think it was the worst moment of the entire debate for Bloomberg. And I, I didn't see
00:18:33.660 anybody really mention it on Twitter. In his closing statement, Mike Bloomberg finally makes the case
00:18:40.480 for why you should elect him. And he revealed that he fundamentally misunderstands the American
00:18:47.440 presidency. He said his big case for why you should elect him is that the presidency is a
00:18:53.740 management job and he's a good manager. This is a management job and John Donald Trump's not a
00:19:01.960 manager. This is a job where you have to build teams. He doesn't have a team. So he goes and makes
00:19:06.960 decisions without knowing what's going on at the implications of what he does. We cannot run the
00:19:11.880 railroad this way. This is so wrong. This is so incorrect. The presidency is not a management job
00:19:21.800 primarily. Obviously there's a little bit of managing going on. I guess there's a little bit
00:19:25.720 of managing that goes on in most jobs, but the presidency is not primarily a management job.
00:19:31.180 And it just reveals why nobody really supports what Bloomberg thinks. Not the left, not the right,
00:19:38.640 probably not even the center. Mike Bloomberg is a neoliberal technocrat. That would be the precise
00:19:45.840 term for him. He looks at all the political problems of the world and he doesn't think of them in terms
00:19:50.900 of great ideas or philosophy or the theological basis of those ideas or what moves and stirs the human
00:19:57.880 soul. He thinks about them from the perspective of getting a little more efficiency out of the
00:20:03.960 market, of just putting a few experts in there. And if they're smart enough, if they got more gray
00:20:08.640 matter, like Bloomberg said the other day, then they'll be able to get a little more money out of
00:20:12.760 the economy and then everybody will go along because we've got this perfect technical vision
00:20:18.500 of the world. And that's not how the world works. But that's, that's how Mike Bloomberg's always
00:20:22.880 thought of politics. When Mike Bloomberg ran for mayor of New York, he said, we can't have
00:20:27.220 more than two terms for mayor. Then he becomes mayor. He says, all right, we're going to add a
00:20:30.600 third term. Why? Because I'm the expert. I'm Mike Bloomberg. I can do whatever I want. Rules don't
00:20:34.920 apply to me. Then he gets the third term and he takes away the third term for everybody else.
00:20:40.120 He finally gets booted out of power in New York. And do you know what his, the next job was that he
00:20:45.240 wanted? It wasn't president right away. He considered becoming mayor of London. There was a real push for
00:20:52.420 Mike Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York to become the mayor of London. That's so weird,
00:20:56.340 right? He's not English. He didn't live in England. Why would he be, because to Mike Bloomberg
00:21:00.460 running these cities, it's all the same. It's all cookie cutter. You just have to get the right
00:21:04.720 technical systems in place and, you know, build teams and have, have good retreats and then
00:21:09.900 implement these good PowerPoint strategies and models. And then the, the, the city will run the
00:21:17.100 right way. And it has nothing to do with the ideas that lead politics. It has nothing to do
00:21:24.120 with actually accomplishing something in politics beyond efficiency. It has nothing to do with the
00:21:30.800 people, right? To Mike Bloomberg. Yeah. Okay. New Yorkers, Englishmen, Londoners, whoever, any,
00:21:39.420 you can substitute any people. It doesn't matter. But of course, people are the most important thing
00:21:43.160 in politics. Politics is how we people all get along in society. And Bloomberg just,
00:21:49.580 just fundamentally doesn't get it. Our framers did not think that the presidency was a management
00:21:56.080 job. Our, our founders and framers thought that the presidency was the spirited part of the
00:22:01.780 government. This is where some people on the right get it wrong too. Some people on the right say,
00:22:05.380 ah, the president, he's just a regular bureaucrat, just like anybody else. No, he isn't. The government,
00:22:10.540 the presidency rather, as the framers intended, is not just some random bean counter. He's not just some
00:22:16.320 random bureaucrat. He's the spirit, the embodiment of the spirit of the government. When the framers
00:22:21.720 set up our government, it's in three parts, right? The judiciary, the legislature, and the executive.
00:22:26.240 Those three parts are designed to correspond to the three parts of the human soul. They're designed to
00:22:32.500 correspond in the judiciary that corresponds to the logical part of the soul. The legislature responds to
00:22:38.660 the emotional part of the soul and the executive responds to the spirited part of the soul. In Greek,
00:22:44.640 it would be the logos, the pathos, and the ethos. I mean, it's the, it's the three divisions of the
00:22:49.940 soul, the three divisions of government. They work very well, but it's about the soul. It's about people.
00:22:54.560 It's about great forces that move us, not just making, uh, some plastic goods a little bit cheaper
00:23:00.340 and markets a little bit more efficient. That's why Bloomberg doesn't get it. And that's why very
00:23:04.620 likely, even beyond all the other attacks on him all night, that is why very likely he's not going
00:23:09.400 anywhere. The other candidates are all jokers too. We've got to get to, uh, AOC, by the way,
00:23:14.360 being the, the, uh, future of the democratic party. And we've got to get to why slate magazine
00:23:20.200 doesn't understand that a sister should not have sex with her brother. We'll get to all of that.
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00:24:29.880 And then they will know that we sent you rockauto.com. Okay. All the other candidates, uh,
00:24:35.380 were jokers. That's no surprise at all. Um, the winner was Bernie. Bernie won. Warren did pretty
00:24:41.320 well too, but that's only because the moderators refused to go after her weaknesses. Moderators
00:24:47.060 have gone after every other candidate. They haven't gone after Warren. They've gone after
00:24:51.220 Buttigieg on race. They've gone after Sanders on his alleged statement that women can't be president.
00:24:55.940 You went after, they went after Bloomberg, obviously on everything. Uh, they went after Amy for
00:25:00.100 forgetting the name of a foreign leader, but they don't go after Warren. Why?
00:25:06.020 Warren is the most, is the weakest of the candidates. She lied about being a native American
00:25:10.060 for her whole career. Probably took a job away from an actual native American. She's lily white.
00:25:15.940 Then lied about her kid's school. Then lied about getting fired for, for being pregnant. Then just
00:25:20.100 lies, lies, lies, but they won't go after her. And I think the reason they won't go after her
00:25:23.860 for the Indian thing is because it looks like a Trump attack. It's an attack that Trump has now
00:25:29.860 totally owned. They don't want to be accused of playing into a Trump attack. They don't want to be
00:25:33.660 accused of being harsh on women. They don't want to be accused of any of that. So they,
00:25:37.620 uh, they just go, they go easy on her. And even with all of that, she's still not doing very well
00:25:41.780 in the polls. All radical candidates on that stage last night with, with maybe the sort of
00:25:48.640 exception of Mike Bloomberg who got clobbered. What this shows us is that someone like AOC who
00:25:55.640 the DNC chairman, Tom Perez said last year, two years ago was the future of the democratic party.
00:26:00.900 It shows that she's not just some strange outlier or some exception. She really,
00:26:06.280 really is the future of that party. While all the candidates were debating on stage with Bloomberg,
00:26:11.280 AOC went on the view to actually serve up one of the questions from the debate.
00:26:19.280 AOC went on the view. One of the questions from the debate from Chuck Todd was,
00:26:22.680 Hey, Mike Bloomberg, should you exist? That was from AOC who said explicitly on the view,
00:26:27.660 billionaires, right? There are fellow countrymen, citizens of America should not exist.
00:26:33.780 Here's the thing is that if you, if the amount of money that you have can force the DNC to change
00:26:39.740 their rules, but the DNC would not change their rules for Cory Booker, Julian Castro, Kamala Harris,
00:26:45.200 that is a, that is an actualization of power. And we all know how I feel about billionaires. I don't
00:26:51.800 think that in a place where 60% of Americans can't even, you know, make more than $40,000 a year,
00:26:59.180 that the presence of a billionaire who largely makes their money off of businesses underpaying
00:27:03.880 their workers like Walmart, like Amazon, like so on should exist. Billionaires should not exist.
00:27:10.660 They shouldn't exist. Now, when you couple that with what we're hearing from the rest of the
00:27:15.920 Democrats, the activists in the field, guys like one of Bernie Sanders' current campaign workers,
00:27:21.800 who said that after the revolution, they're going to line up all the bourgeois and send them to the
00:27:27.960 gulag. They're going to line them up on the wall and kill them. That's like actually what a campaign
00:27:31.360 worker for Bernie said. And you hear this kind of language, it gets you a little worried because
00:27:35.760 every radical socialist communist regime in history has, has had to liquidate classes of
00:27:41.940 people. Liquidate is another word for murder. They've had to purge people. They've had to crack
00:27:46.860 a few eggs to make an omelet. So that kind of language is, is not great. And you're hearing
00:27:51.860 it from the young, fresh face of the party, AOC. Not a good sign, not a good sign for the country.
00:27:59.960 The one glimmer of hope, however, is that AOC is a hypocrite. And AOC revealed that in the same
00:28:08.020 interview with The View, because she castigated all those rich men. And yet, right now she's
00:28:13.800 campaigning for a rich man. Our entire political system
00:28:17.500 revolves, frankly, around rich men. And rich men are not the center of my universe. Working families
00:28:25.960 are. Yeah, okay, AOC. Well, what's interesting is AOC, the reason she hasn't been doing her job
00:28:31.920 lately is because she's on the campaign trail for Bernie Sanders, who is a very rich man.
00:28:39.800 He's an old rich man. That's like three strikes against him. So that is a lie. I mean, what she's,
00:28:45.260 what she's trying to say, oh, men, rich men, they're not the center of my universe. Working
00:28:48.940 families are. AOC doesn't answer the phone in her district office for those working families,
00:28:53.320 but she does spend a lot of time on the campaign trail for, for Bernie Sanders. That's a little
00:28:59.240 glimmer of hope. Uh, however, if we've, uh, if, if the best hope we've got is Democrats hypocrisy,
00:29:06.780 I mean, that's something we can rely on, but it doesn't say very much about the Democratic Party.
00:29:10.820 Um, before we get to the mailbag, I've got to talk about the grossest, the grossest article.
00:29:18.440 This was in Slate. It was a letter written into Slate Magazine. It's called,
00:29:22.700 My Wife Wants Us to Have Sex with Her Brother. Not just that she wants to have sex with her brother,
00:29:26.580 but she wants them both to. Here's the letter. Dear, how to do it. My wife and I have been in
00:29:32.940 an open marriage for five years. So they're cheating on each other. They sleep with other
00:29:36.220 people. On the whole, our relationship has been uncommonly open and supportive. Definitely
00:29:42.060 uncommonly open. We both strive to encourage one another to explore and even playfully push the
00:29:47.140 limits romantically and sexually. For as long as I've known her, my wife has been interested in
00:29:51.580 incest role play. Okay. While it isn't my cup of tea exactly, I've been willing and happy to support
00:29:57.780 her in her exploration of this kind of fantasy and role play. Often she will have me dress up as her
00:30:02.560 father, wear his cologne, et cetera, while she will wear her high school clothes. Okay. Recently though,
00:30:11.220 things have started to move in an uncomfortable direction. Recently, not before that, all that other
00:30:15.760 stuff was comfortable. Wearing your dad's cologne, totally normal, but now it's moving in an
00:30:19.900 uncomfortable direction. My wife is very close with her older brother who is also bi, bisexual,
00:30:25.400 and with whom we often speak very openly about sex and sexuality. A few nights ago and after a few
00:30:29.920 drinks, my wife got to talking fairly explicitly about some of the family role playing that she and
00:30:34.380 I are into. And her brother, who I thought would be kind of horrified, was not only entirely supportive,
00:30:39.740 but vaguely expressed interest in exploring this kink with us. Exploring this kink, by the way,
00:30:44.560 is a euphemism for having sex. When I got, when we got home, I expected my wife to make it clear
00:30:49.840 that her brother ever joining us in the bedroom was entirely off the table, but instead she seemed
00:30:53.920 to think it was a really good idea. In principle, I don't have a problem with this idea. I've got to
00:31:01.440 pause here for a second. If in principle you don't have a problem with you and your wife having sex with
00:31:08.520 her brother, you probably don't have very many principles. You're probably not a very principled
00:31:15.660 person. If that is in principle, you don't have a problem. Uh, my wife and I have also enjoyed group
00:31:21.420 sex, orgies, and so that isn't the problem either. I'm just worried about how this could affect my
00:31:27.260 relationship with my brother-in-law. Is there a way for me to make this happen without it getting
00:31:30.800 weird? It's weird. It's weird, buddy. Uh, Slate doesn't have much of an answer to it. The, the
00:31:39.700 advice columnist to respond says, well, look, if you're worried about how it's going to affect your
00:31:44.280 relationship with your brother, then, then don't do it basically, right? That's all it says. Doesn't,
00:31:48.260 doesn't explain in principle why this is a bad idea. So you'll notice what he says, right? He says,
00:31:54.380 I'm kind of uncomfortable with this. This is a little weird. And then he refers to the family
00:31:58.200 role-playing that he and she are into, but he just said, he's not really into it. He's just doing it
00:32:02.580 to humor her, right? He said, it's not my cup of tea, but then he says, I'm into it. So he's obviously
00:32:06.380 not the manliest man in the world. He's obviously getting pushed around quite, quite a lot here.
00:32:14.720 All of the reasoning for why not to sleep with your wife's brother is very, um,
00:32:23.580 it's just very subjective. It's very well, if it'll affect your relationship, well, if it'll make
00:32:27.900 family dinners awkward, well, if it'll make family dinners sexual, well, if it, you know,
00:32:33.120 okay, it might just situationally, it might not work out great. The reason not to have sex with
00:32:40.880 your wife and her brother at the same time is because it's wrong. It is morally wrong. It is
00:32:48.620 objectively wrong, wicked, not just a little bit creepy. It's actually wrong to do it. It's a violation of
00:32:57.540 the moral order on top of all the other gross aspects of it. But we're not allowed to say that
00:33:02.260 anymore because we're not allowed to say in this modern cult, sexually liberated culture of anything
00:33:07.220 goes and if it feels good, do it. We're not allowed to say that certain sexual acts are intrinsically
00:33:12.460 disordered. This gets to the big debate that's been going on on the right for months now. It started
00:33:19.560 with the porn thing. Should we regulate porn? And you had the kind of libertarian leaning people on
00:33:24.320 the right say, no way. If it doesn't hurt anybody, it doesn't matter. If it feels good, do it. And
00:33:28.900 then you had the conservatives say, no, this is pretty bad. It's an epidemic. It's causing huge
00:33:33.720 rises in ED. It's causing men to become perverted. It's a big problem in the country and we don't want
00:33:39.100 perverts running our country. There is no, there is no violation of the moral order that doesn't affect
00:33:50.180 anybody, right? There is no victimless crime as they say. All crimes have victims. Even if you're
00:33:55.700 the victim and the effects on other people are difficult to measure, but they can be measured.
00:34:01.020 Like for instance, if I become a drug addict and kill myself, God forbid, you could say that's a
00:34:05.720 victimless crime in that it's only affecting me. But of course it affects many more people than you.
00:34:09.440 It affects your family. It affects your friends. It affects your community. That, that is just what
00:34:14.000 happens with these violations of the moral order. You see it in, uh, in Utah right now. Utah just,
00:34:20.060 uh, passed a bill to legalize polygamy. Polygamy, much, much more understandable than, uh, having sex
00:34:28.000 with your wife and a brother at the same time, but still a violation of, uh, of our social and sexual
00:34:33.700 mores today. In the, if it feels good, do it culture. Why is polygamy wrong? By, by the logic of
00:34:40.840 Obergefell, the decision that redefined marriage to include monogamous same-sex unions, by the logic
00:34:46.320 of that Supreme Court decision, which discovered somewhere in the constitution, a right to intimacy,
00:34:51.220 not sure where that was, it's between the articles, I think, by the logic of it,
00:34:56.060 why should marriage not be redefined again to include polygamy? Love is love. If it feels good,
00:35:02.900 do it. It's not hurting anybody. It's a victimless crime, right? And yet we all know, yeah, there's
00:35:07.000 something wrong about that. There's something right there. We all know there's something wrong
00:35:10.780 about sleeping with your wife and her brother at the same time, but we've convinced ourselves in
00:35:17.200 this very narrow, rationalistic way, this shallow way that we cannot take seriously moral discussion,
00:35:25.000 moral disagreement. It all just has to be about us. Well, it doesn't really hurt me. It doesn't
00:35:29.460 really affect me. That's not a mature moral discussion. It's not the discussion that our
00:35:33.200 framers had. It's not the discussion that any of our ancestors had who built this great
00:35:36.980 civilization. And if we don't start having that discussion again, we're not going to have the
00:35:40.580 civilization for very long. Okay. We got to get to the mailbag running late as usual. I want to bring
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00:36:47.760 Right back with the mailbag. Dear Master of Covfefe, and resident papist of the Daily Wire,
00:36:53.440 I am a conservative and a Christian, and I believe in the differences of the sexes and that God made
00:36:58.160 us to be different and to suit different roles. I don't accept the nonsense put forward by the left
00:37:03.140 that gender is separate from sex. However, I experience gender dysphoria. I know that this
00:37:08.780 is a psychological problem and that I need to solve it. But any therapist I approach will only
00:37:13.340 give me affirmation therapy, and I'm ashamed to approach my family, friends, or religious leaders.
00:37:18.700 And so I come to you, a social and political commentator who I only know on the internet.
00:37:22.700 What would you advise I do? Sincerely, and may God bless you and yours.
00:37:28.380 Okay. I'm very sorry to hear that you're going through that. It's a very tough affliction,
00:37:33.880 particularly because we don't know exactly how to treat it. First of all, I would correct you a
00:37:38.860 little bit here when you say, you've got to solve it. It'd be nice if you could solve it. It'd be nice
00:37:45.480 if you could get rid of it. But that's not the way that afflictions always work. Sometimes we just
00:37:50.580 kind of bear suffering, and suffering sanctifies us spiritually, but it also shapes our character.
00:37:57.100 It also deepens our understanding of the world. Everybody suffers. So you are not alone in
00:38:01.380 suffering, though you do have this particular affliction. You also have this problem, which is
00:38:08.120 we live in a really dumb society right now where any psychologist you go to is not going to give you
00:38:12.340 good psychological advice. So here is my advice. First of all, a little bit of encouragement.
00:38:17.200 I don't know how old you are, but when this gender dysphoria occurs, especially in young people,
00:38:24.640 statistically, for the majority of people, it will go away over time.
00:38:29.800 Huge, I mean, 80 to 90% of teenagers who experience gender dysphoria, it just kind of goes away. So
00:38:35.980 that bit of advice could just be try to bear it out and hope that it goes away because statistically,
00:38:42.700 it very possibly will. The next thing you should do, you say you're afraid to talk to your family
00:38:48.160 about it. I don't know your family situation. That might be totally justified. You don't want
00:38:52.960 to talk to therapists because a lot of them are quacks. Totally true. You're afraid of talking to
00:38:58.320 your religious leaders. I don't know who your religious leaders are. What I would recommend is
00:39:02.420 you talk to my religious leaders, and that's because the Catholic Church has a nuanced view of
00:39:08.140 this. They've been dealing with, they've been thinking, you know, the Catholic Church, as with
00:39:12.380 most things, has been thinking about it for 2,000 years. So there, there is a kind of nuanced view,
00:39:16.340 and I think you would probably get pretty good balanced advice, even on what sort of psychologists
00:39:22.220 to go seek out. So I would recommend you talk to a Catholic priest about it. Even if you are not
00:39:28.460 Catholic yourself, I just think you're more likely, and with various other Protestant denominations,
00:39:33.620 it might be more hit or miss, just because there's so many different doctrines that are out there.
00:39:38.020 You know, I don't, I don't want to send you to the, the wrong people, even if there, there could
00:39:42.780 be some good ones out there as well. I would do that, and then I would do your best, on, actually,
00:39:47.840 on the Catholic point, I would recommend finding a Catholic psychologist, or at least, I say Catholic
00:39:52.620 psychologist because Catholic psychologists will accept the natural law, so they won't push some wacky
00:39:57.580 gender Gnostic ideology on you. But if you find any psychologist who recognizes the natural law,
00:40:05.720 then I think you'll be in a good place. In the meantime, what you should do is not lose heart,
00:40:13.200 be encouraged, everybody is suffering, you've got this particular affliction. There are people out
00:40:18.820 there who you can speak to about this. There are people who are living with gender dysphoria,
00:40:23.360 who are, or who regret going through sex affirmation surgery. So I interviewed one of
00:40:30.960 them, I know I forget his name, Peter something, when I was guest hosting Ben's radio show. I know
00:40:34.860 Walt Heyer talks about this a lot. He's another person who has gone back and he regretted his surgery.
00:40:41.320 Those, those kind of voices are out there as well. And I would recommend, just given my own
00:40:48.500 knowledge of these religious leaders, I would recommend talking to a priest about it. And just
00:40:53.440 seeing, even if they don't give you religious advice that you like, if they can lead you to
00:40:57.400 psychological advice, because there, there are resources out there. And best of luck. I will pray
00:41:01.620 for you, my friend. From Grant. Hi, Michael. I find a choir member in the church extremely attractive,
00:41:06.780 and she seems exceptionally sweet and genuine. I want to ask her out, but have no idea how to approach
00:41:12.020 that. Any tips on asking her out? What could my opening line be? I've never talked to her before,
00:41:17.280 but she has noticed me a couple of times. I'm extremely nervous and don't want to botch this.
00:41:21.140 Thank you for any advice. Yes, I do have advice. How about you open with a compliment? This is now
00:41:28.020 in our kind of ironic culture. We, the idea of complimenting somebody is unthinkable, but how
00:41:35.800 about you try that? A real compliment, not flattery. People hate flattery, but actually, you know,
00:41:40.700 hey, that was a lovely cantata you sang. Oh, I really love this hymn. Good choice. Those sort of
00:41:46.960 things, right? And make it genuine. Oh, lovely dress. I mean, you know, it could be as simple
00:41:51.860 as that. And probably because men don't understand how to talk to women very much anymore.
00:41:59.780 She will like that, especially if she's been noticing you. That's, she's probably looking
00:42:03.680 for an opportunity to talk to you as well. And then you can start a conversation. And if you
00:42:08.000 open with a compliment, it allows you to take the conversation somewhere that has some mutual
00:42:13.480 interest. So if you say, oh, I really loved how you sang, how great thou art, that hymn
00:42:19.720 that you were singing. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, I love how great thou art. Yeah, it's
00:42:22.660 really good. And then you can start talking about hymns and then you'll have some common
00:42:25.820 interest there. I assume if you're both in the church choir and then you can bring it
00:42:29.180 to the place where I'm sure you want to bring it to, which is, oh, wow, we, we certainly
00:42:32.600 should discuss this further. Do you want to get a drink after, after choir practice or you
00:42:36.620 want to go to dinner after you want to grab a coffee or something? That's where I would
00:42:40.280 begin. People always ask, how do I pick up a girl? And, uh, the answer is so simple
00:42:46.240 that people overlook it, which is be genuinely interested in them. Be curious about what they
00:42:52.220 have to say, like them. They want to be around them. And, uh, I think you'll probably have
00:42:57.240 a good shot because it sounds to me like she's interested as well. Okay. From John, dear
00:43:01.940 Dr. Covfefe slash Mr. Swalwell. Thank you for using both of my names. Winner of the Iowa
00:43:06.400 caucus. Good. Thank you for using my title. Given Trump has been using the pardon power,
00:43:10.200 this week, I decided to refresh myself on the reasons for the pardon power and find
00:43:14.740 myself unsatisfied by James Madison's rationale that the executive has the power to check the
00:43:19.520 criminal justice system when it goes awry. It seems to be generally abused by presidents.
00:43:24.100 Trump has used it relatively sparingly. Uh, if you had your druthers, would you erase the
00:43:29.320 pardon power altogether? Huge fan of the show and your literary work. Thank you very much.
00:43:32.760 I would not. I love the pardon power. I think it's great. I think the founders and framers
00:43:36.700 were smart to put it in the constitution because it humanizes the government. And after all,
00:43:44.260 what is our government? It's our fellow humans governing us. So obviously we are a nation of
00:43:48.420 laws, not a nation of men. We have this justice, but justice without love, justice without mercy
00:43:53.180 is tyranny. It's brittle. It will crack. And so you need a little safety valve in there. And
00:43:59.100 that safety valve is the pardon power. I love that the executive, the spirited part of our
00:44:03.180 government has the ability to do that. Some presidents abuse it. Bill Clinton abused it.
00:44:07.960 Barack Obama certainly abused it as well. But, uh, I don't think Trump is abusing it. And I'm,
00:44:14.020 I would rather run the risk of presidents pardoning too many people than not have that ability
00:44:19.440 at all. All right. That is our show. We've got a lot more to get to, but you know, of course
00:44:24.680 we don't have time. We run out of time every single week. Tune back in on Monday in the meantime,
00:44:30.500 by the way, I should announce, uh, I'm going to fly out next week to Washington DC because Senator
00:44:36.120 Ted Cruz and I will be doing a live verdict podcast at CPAC this year. So if you're going
00:44:41.920 to be at CPAC, uh, we hope to see you there in the room. If not, you know, go on out there.
00:44:46.400 Maybe we'll see you there and, uh, I'll see you on the East coast. In the meantime,
00:44:50.120 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show.
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