The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 523

00:00:00.000 Over the past few days, evidence is emerging that coronavirus models may have overestimated

00:00:05.720 the pandemic. Even hard hit areas like Italy and New York may be turning the corner earlier

00:00:11.540 than projected. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and a whole lot of people will have

00:00:16.560 a whole lot of explaining to do as to why we just destroyed the global economy. We will examine the

00:00:21.860 value of hindsight and how shoulda, coulda, woulda will affect the 2020 election. Then,

00:00:26.980 despite months of mainstream media insistence that the Wuhan virus has nothing whatsoever to do

00:00:33.000 with the shadowy Wuhan Institute of Virology, news reports suggest a link between the two.

00:00:39.460 We will take a look at the latest and how a conspiratorial press has abused the term

00:00:44.600 conspiracy theory. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:48.460 Some good news. Isn't that nice to report for a change? Italy may have turned the corner.

00:01:02.240 Now, we're just looking at numbers from Friday and Saturday right now. We'll have more numbers,

00:01:06.160 obviously, coming out later this morning. Italy on Friday reported 766 new deaths. That's no good.

00:01:14.520 Brings the total up to 14,681. That's no good. But the fact that it was only 766 deaths and not more

00:01:23.900 than that shows that we're now seeing a slowdown in Italy over multiple days. Infections grew

00:01:31.760 from Thursday to Friday by 2.8%. Also, doesn't sound great, except that is lower than it was growing

00:01:40.140 before. So before the rate was 3%. Now it's down to 2.8. Looks like we're seeing a slowdown.

00:01:45.780 And the number of people who got the virus and then were sick and then recovered also jumped pretty

00:01:51.720 high on Friday in Italy to 19,758. So it looks as though we can say with some confidence, Italy has

00:01:58.760 peaked. You know, we've all been talking about flattening the curve. It now seems to have gone over

00:02:02.600 the top of the curve and it's on the way down. Really good news for us is that may also be true in New

00:02:09.000 York. It may not be true in New York. Andrew Cuomo, the governor there has been cautious to say,

00:02:16.020 listen, we had a little bit of a slowdown. That might just be a blip though. It might go back up

00:02:19.900 again, but there does seem to be light at the end of the tunnel there. So New York's count of daily

00:02:24.960 coronavirus deaths fell for the first time on Saturday compared to Friday. So on Friday, there were 630 deaths

00:02:32.880 in New York. On Saturday, there were 594 deaths, which is significantly down. If you're talking

00:02:39.260 about 36 deaths down to the number 594. New hospitalizations were also down. They were way

00:02:48.020 down. They went down to 574 on Saturday compared to 1095 on Friday. This trend holds for daily ICU

00:02:57.540 admissions that decreased from 395 on Friday to 250 on Saturday. So again, way down. Intubations fell

00:03:08.360 only a little bit, but down from 351 on Friday down to 316 on Saturday. And probably best of all,

00:03:15.680 the discharge rate went way, way up to 1709 on Saturday compared to 1502 on Friday. So pretty much

00:03:24.600 every number coming out of New York got better from Friday to Saturday. Might've just been a blip.

00:03:32.240 It might, might, still might spike again this week, but across the board, hospitalizations, ICU, discharge,

00:03:39.660 death, all of those numbers going in the right direction, at least from Friday to Saturday. Now,

00:03:46.500 who knows? We'll see over the next few days if New York really has peaked.

00:03:49.520 Even if New York has not peaked, we are seeing evidence that that malaria drug that has been

00:03:55.080 around for a long time, that President Trump and others have touted as showing promise on

00:04:00.820 treating coronavirus actually is doing a great job of treating coronavirus. Here is just one physician

00:04:08.080 who is seeing a lot of coronavirus patients, who has been prescribing it to his patients saying

00:04:12.980 that in virtually all cases, hydroxychloroquine has worked.

00:04:18.040 What we're finding clinically with our patients is that it really only works in conjunction with

00:04:22.120 zinc. So the hydroxychloroquine opens a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks

00:04:27.080 the replication of the cellular machinery. So it has to be used in conjunction with zinc.

00:04:31.540 We are seeing some clinical responses in that regard. There are people that take it regularly for

00:04:36.900 other disease processes. We have to be cautious and mindful that we don't prescribe it for patients who

00:04:42.740 have COVID that are well. It really should be reserved for people that are really sick in the

00:04:47.300 hospital or at home very sick that need that medication. Otherwise, we're going to blow through

00:04:51.600 our supply for the patients that take it regularly for other disease processes.

00:04:54.740 But what you're saying is you're prescribing it and it is working for COVID-19 patients.

00:05:00.580 Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill. And within eight to 12 hours,

00:05:05.380 they were basically symptom free.

00:05:07.000 That's a pretty amazing endorsement. The person was very, very ill. And with eight to 12 hours,

00:05:13.240 it was done. It was all better. Notice he has a word of caution here. He says, look,

00:05:19.180 if you're not showing symptoms, if you're not very sick, do not take this drug. But he's not saying

00:05:24.320 don't take this drug because the drug will make you sicker. He's saying don't take the drug because

00:05:27.460 the drug is so damn good that we don't want to burn through our whole supply. And because some people

00:05:31.680 take the drug for other reasons, not just for coronavirus. In fact, that's the whole reason

00:05:36.540 this drug is working is because it doesn't need to go through an extensive FDA approval process.

00:05:42.360 It's already gone through that process. The drug has already been around. It's not like scientists

00:05:46.680 had to discover a new drug in a lab and test it on animals, then test it on people, then go through

00:05:51.140 this whole process. And within 18 months, we still don't have a drug for coronavirus. The drug has

00:05:56.520 been tested for a long time and it appears to be working on coronavirus. This is great news,

00:06:01.820 right? Of course it is. And nobody could be more furious about it than the mainstream media.

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00:07:19.780 This is, this is good news. I know we haven't had a lot of good news recently,

00:07:23.700 but good news on hospitalizations, on the death rate, on this drug working and the media are so

00:07:32.620 upset specifically on the drug. You know, President Trump does these daily press conferences. He is his

00:07:38.640 own press secretary. They're the best stuff on TV. They are even slightly better than Tiger King

00:07:43.380 and Tiger King is a great show. We got a few press conferences to catch up on over the weekend.

00:07:49.280 The biggest takeaway I had from all of them is how much the press does not want this pandemic to get

00:07:55.520 better. They seem furious when the drugs work. They seem furious when the numbers are going in

00:08:00.280 the right direction. In fact, one reporter is asking President Trump if he thinks it's really

00:08:07.600 responsible to go out there on television every day and tell people that there's actually hope

00:08:13.760 in the form of this new drug.

00:08:15.500 Mr. President, as President of the United States, your words carry enormous weight in this country

00:08:21.040 and around the world. And while you acknowledge you're not a physician, you do promote these

00:08:25.580 medicines extensively here. How do you not go so far as to be giving medical advice? And you said

00:08:32.280 yesterday, you might take some of these medicines even though you don't have symptoms.

00:08:35.980 Are you still planning to do that? And how do you calibrate being enthusiastic and not playing

00:08:41.840 doctor?

00:08:42.420 Because I want people to live and I'm seeing people dying and I've seen people that are

00:08:49.480 going to die without it. And you know the expression when that's happening, they should do it.

00:08:57.320 What really do we have to lose? We also have this medicine's been tested for many years for malaria

00:09:03.280 and for lupus. So it's been out there. So it's a very strong, powerful medicine, but it doesn't kill

00:09:08.800 people.

00:09:09.720 He's almost flabbergasted, I think. You look at his confusion. He said, Mr. President, your words carry

00:09:14.960 so much weight. Why on earth would you tout this drug that's shown great efficacy at treating

00:09:19.420 coronavirus? Because I want people to live. You monsters. Do you not want people to live? Think

00:09:27.080 about how perverse that is. The mainstream media know of this drug, which has been shown to be

00:09:33.000 effective at treating the global pandemic that there is currently no cure for and no vaccine for.

00:09:39.040 And the press are angry that Trump would tell people about the drug.

00:09:44.740 Look also at how the press wants to have it both ways with Trump. They get angry with Trump that he's

00:09:51.060 not acting fast enough, right? They say they're the administration's bungled response to coronavirus.

00:09:55.960 They're not working fast enough. They didn't have an answer in place. And then the press gets angry

00:10:01.340 that Trump is acting too fast. They say, we had no response to this virus. You have no cure for this

00:10:07.680 virus. Okay, well, we've got a cure now. You can't have a cure. That's terrible. You haven't gone through

00:10:13.620 18 months of clinical testing. It seems pretty clear. They just don't want the problem to go away.

00:10:19.560 I thought Trump gave a very good answer. The reporters were not pleased with that answer.

00:10:24.200 Actually, the reporters came back and asked the same question, again, phrased even more

00:10:30.840 offensively. The next reporter then asked the question as to why those pesky elected politicians

00:10:37.240 keep leading our politics and making these decisions instead of just turning over all of

00:10:42.660 their power to the scientists, to science itself. The doctors who are treating coronavirus patients,

00:10:49.580 they have the medical expertise to determine whether or not they should prescribe hydroxychloroquine.

00:10:54.320 And many of them do. And there are already clinical trials in place looking at hydroxychloroquine.

00:10:59.220 Sure. Sure. They should be finished in about a year.

00:11:01.720 So why not just let the science speak for itself? Why are you promoting this drug?

00:11:06.040 I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying very simply, I'm not at all. I'm not. Look, you know what I'm trying to do?

00:11:11.720 I'm trying to save lives. You come out here every day, right, sir, talking about the benefits of hydroxychloroquine.

00:11:14.580 I want them to try it. And it may work and it may not work. But if it doesn't work, it's nothing lost

00:11:21.120 by doing it. Nothing. Because we know long term, what I want, I want to save lives. And I don't want

00:11:26.800 to be in a lab for the next year and a half as people are dying all over the place.

00:11:31.060 It's already out there. Doctors are already able to prescribe it off labor.

00:11:33.460 That's right. I don't want to wait a year and a half to find out. And only CNN would ask that question.

00:11:39.880 Fake news. Go ahead. So true. Well, actually, let me, let me caveat that a little bit. It's true

00:11:47.600 that CNN is such fake news that they would ask that question. But a lot of reporters in this room

00:11:52.620 are asking this kind of ridiculous question. What that reporter's question boils down to is,

00:11:57.420 Mr. President, why are you being the president? Mr. President, why are you showing political

00:12:02.440 leadership and giving Americans hope and trying to point them in the right direction? Why aren't,

00:12:07.460 look? And then Trump answers. He says, because I want to save lives. He says, look,

00:12:12.860 the drug is out there. Okay. The reporter says it like grudgingly. Oh, the drug is out there. Fine.

00:12:17.780 Okay. There's a cure for coronavirus. Or if there's not a cure, at least there's a good treatment for it,

00:12:22.920 but you don't need to promote it. You don't need to tell people there's a cure. We were hoping this

00:12:26.980 pandemic would go on for six months. We were hoping if we were lucky, this thing would go on for 18

00:12:31.380 months and then you would lose the election. And then Joe Biden would become president. He probably

00:12:35.720 wouldn't even be aware of it if he got elected, but then, then we could do whatever we want. And

00:12:39.300 now you're going around our backs, you, you pesky Donald Trump, and you're giving people hope and

00:12:45.720 showing them that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. How dare you, Mr. President? Why not

00:12:50.620 let science speak for itself? Guess what? Science doesn't act on its own. That's the other side of

00:12:56.500 this. It's not like you just, you, I don't know, you put a bunch of microscopes in a lab and you have

00:13:02.540 a couple white coats hung on the wall and then science happens. Okay. Science is led by people

00:13:08.240 who follow the scientific method. And then once the scientists do the sciencey things,

00:13:13.100 then you have drugs, which now we have. And then it is up to our leaders to promote those drugs.

00:13:21.420 It is up to our leaders to tell us that those drugs are available, to communicate that to us,

00:13:25.360 to lead in the crisis. And the press hates it that Trump is leading right now. And they apparently

00:13:33.120 hate it that things are going better than before. But the press is not just upset that people have

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00:14:55.320 people now have access to medicine for coronavirus. If they can't stop the medicine from getting out

00:14:59.900 there, they at least want to stop people from getting access to food. I'm not joking. I'm not

00:15:04.380 exaggerating. One reporter chastised President Trump for allowing grocery stores to remain open.

00:15:11.220 You know, obviously we know anyone can spread the disease, right? Unwittingly. Right. So why even

00:15:16.060 have a few businesses open? Why not just shut everything down? There are grocery stores that

00:15:19.720 are open, fast food places. Why even take a little chance to shut it down? We'll answer that question

00:15:25.240 later. All I can say is that right now things are looking really good and opening up with a bang will

00:15:30.660 be a great thing. And there's nobody going to be happier than me. Mr. President, why not let people

00:15:34.940 just starve to death in the apartment pods that the governors are forcing them to remain in?

00:15:40.200 Why are you allowing people suffering to be alleviated? It is pretty clear at this point,

00:15:48.440 as if it wasn't clear from the beginning. Some of us knew this from the beginning,

00:15:52.180 but at this point it is undeniable. The press does not want this pandemic to lift.

00:15:59.760 They don't. They want the hysteria to remain just as high as they all ginned it up.

00:16:03.960 They want the pain to become more intense. They want to hide the fact that there's an effective

00:16:09.080 drug. They want to keep you from getting groceries so that you go hungry.

00:16:13.960 They want there to be maximum chaos because they realize that by maximizing political pain during

00:16:22.340 this pandemic, they are helping themselves politically and they are hurting their number

00:16:28.600 one enemy, Donald Trump politically. That, you know, I usually try not to use terms like enemy

00:16:36.860 when I'm talking about domestic politics. It was Ronald Reagan who said, when we're talking about

00:16:41.180 Democrats and Republicans, no one has enemies. We only have opponents. But I'm beginning to think

00:16:45.540 for the left, they have an enemy. For instance, when you think about coronavirus, you would think that,

00:16:51.020 okay, maybe you disagree with Trump or you like Trump, but he's not the enemy. The enemy is China,

00:16:55.880 which is 100% responsible for spreading this pandemic. And yet when you look at the left-wing

00:17:02.280 press, they are constantly covering for China. They can't get enough of it. And they are constantly

00:17:10.340 attacking Trump and trying to make it as though Donald Trump put on a white lab coat, went into

00:17:14.460 a lab in Wuhan and concocted this coronavirus. By the way, we'll get to the connection between this

00:17:20.160 virus and that lab in Wuhan in, in just a moment. Regardless of all that, the evidence is that

00:17:27.500 things are getting better. And increasingly the, the evidence is showing that the doomsday models

00:17:33.620 that we were all told two million Americans dead or more were wrong. And, and people are bringing up

00:17:39.920 now, even some reporters are bringing up what to do about those models. And you're, you're about to

00:17:45.700 see this conversation shift rapidly from, we have to believe the models. We have to believe the most

00:17:50.360 extreme models to the models were wrong. Why did you guys get it wrong? Here's a reporter putting

00:17:55.820 that question to president Trump. Some of the models that you guys are using, the IHME model in

00:18:00.440 particular has been very accurate when it comes to projecting deaths over the last couple of days,

00:18:05.040 but there's a couple of other metrics that they seem to be pretty far off on specifically hospital

00:18:10.460 beds. Are you guys, you know, happy with the models you're currently using? Is there any need to

00:18:15.960 adjust those? Well, it's turning out that we need less hospital beds, right? That's what you're

00:18:20.260 talking about. And that's what we, well, we may have models, but we've been sort of saying that

00:18:24.080 in New York, we were saying, we think you're going to need less. Now let's hope that continues. But

00:18:29.860 right now I heard governor Cuomo this morning and he was saying less hospital beds, also less death.

00:18:37.120 That was a very big thing. First time, less death today than yesterday, right? That's a big thing,

00:18:42.300 but also less hospital beds. That means less patients because basically it's less patients.

00:18:48.180 This is such a dishonest new narrative that is just today emerging from the mainstream media.

00:18:54.080 You're going to see it for weeks now, which is initially they attacked Trump because he was

00:18:59.680 underestimating the virus. And now pretty soon you're going to see them attack Trump for overestimating

00:19:06.440 the virus. Why aren't you doing more? Why did you do so much? And they're going to do it

00:19:11.420 with a completely straight face. They're going to do it without blinking.

00:19:15.820 That's how used, used to pushing a narrative these people are. This is good news, I guess,

00:19:21.580 right? They don't need as many hospital beds as they thought they needed. They don't need,

00:19:24.880 they brought this ship, the federal government sent this hospital ship to New York to treat all the

00:19:30.340 people who don't have coronavirus. They figured they could get all the otherwise healthy people

00:19:34.420 treated on the ship and then all the hospitals would be used for coronavirus. Now they're actually

00:19:38.520 using the ship for some people with coronavirus because all the other deaths and injuries are

00:19:42.740 way, way down because no one's allowed to leave their apartments. And it is good news to say there

00:19:49.060 are fewer people in the hospital than we thought. There are fewer people getting sick than we thought.

00:19:54.340 It's, it is good news, but there is a downside to that. The downside is hooray,

00:19:58.220 look at how great we did. We destroyed the global economy for no reason, right? That's assuming the

00:20:05.340 best case that the models really were overblown as some people were suggesting weeks ago, not naming

00:20:11.180 any names, not raising any hands, but that is great news, right? Cause fewer people then are sick,

00:20:16.180 but then there is a political accountability question, which is why did we just shut down the

00:20:22.020 global economy? Why are, why did 10 million people lose their jobs within just two weeks?

00:20:26.120 Who knows what that number is going to be by the end of this week when we get the numbers on

00:20:31.180 Thursday? So good on the health front, a little tougher on the political front. President Trump is

00:20:39.140 already trying to get ahead of this narrative. He's already trying to distance himself from the models.

00:20:44.940 He came out at the last press conference and he said, look, I've never worked with models. Well,

00:20:49.800 at least not those kinds of models. Hundreds of thousands of people are going to die. You know what I

00:20:55.160 want to do? I want to come way under the models. The professionals did the models. I was never

00:21:00.620 involved in a model, but at least this kind of a model. I love that line. Well, look, at least not

00:21:08.080 this kind of a model. Okay. Maybe you've all seen Melania, beautiful lady. Okay. But other kinds of

00:21:12.780 models I'm not involved in a really smart line. Also politically smart for Trump to distance himself

00:21:19.400 from those models that he initially showed some skepticism toward, that he has repeatedly said he

00:21:25.240 didn't think the doomsday scenario was necessarily going to happen. This is going to be the next great

00:21:31.160 debate. Okay. This coronavirus pandemic and probably even more so the global shutdown that has resulted

00:21:39.740 from it is the biggest event to happen to our country and our world since 9-11. It's the most

00:21:47.780 significant event. Even after 9-11, which was an epoch changing event, we didn't shut down the global

00:21:58.820 economy for two months or three months or however long this is going to go on. Okay. 2020, the 2020

00:22:04.900 election is now about this. A month ago, it was about the greatest economy in the world and unemployment

00:22:10.000 and Trump's mean tweets and all that stuff. Now it is about this and the lead up to this and the

00:22:16.700 fallout from this. Joe Biden is already trying to rewrite history to make the case that he would

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00:23:49.140 and deserve. You remember Joe Biden? I barely remember Joe Biden. Joe Biden, I guess he's running

00:23:55.220 for president. Joe Biden is already trying to change history and say that he would have handled

00:24:01.020 coronavirus much better than Trump. Here is Joe Biden criticizing Trump for not shutting down

00:24:05.840 travel from China sooner. Got to go faster than slower. And we started off awfully slow. He indicated

00:24:12.500 that I complimented him on dealing with China. Well, you know, 45 nations had already moved to keep

00:24:21.040 block China's personnel from being able to come to the United States before the president moved.

00:24:28.100 Uh, so it's just, it's about pace. It's about, it's about the urgency and I don't think there's

00:24:34.120 been enough of it. That is an unbelievable criticism. Now it's going to skate by people

00:24:39.800 who only watch the mainstream media. It's going to skate by people who are kind of casually paying

00:24:44.460 attention to politics. Frankly, it's going to skate by most people because most people I think have

00:24:49.440 forgotten that Joe Biden's even running for president at this point. They've forgotten about the whole

00:24:53.500 election. All of the news cycle has been about coronavirus and Joe Biden is particularly good at

00:24:58.820 revising history and lying with a straight face. Not even because he's so deceitful and, and duplicitous,

00:25:04.480 but really just because he has no regard for the truth. He just says falsehoods with, with total ease,

00:25:10.960 with total talent and skill just flows right out of him. So for instance, what he just said, 45 nations

00:25:22.420 cut travel from China before the United States did. That's just not true. I don't even know how to

00:25:26.860 refute that because I have no idea where he even got that figure from. It's just completely pulled out

00:25:31.840 of thin air. But the most dishonest part of that statement is that Joe Biden would have shut down

00:25:39.360 travel from China much faster. We have video recordings. We know for a fact that when Donald

00:25:45.800 Trump shut down travel from China early in January, he was pilloried for it from the left,

00:25:52.060 specifically from Joe Biden, who said that shutting down travel from China was a bad idea and it was

00:25:57.920 xenophobic. Coronavirus emanated from China, a national emergency, you know, worldwide alerts.

00:26:06.160 The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it,

00:26:12.320 that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility

00:26:18.920 of a president is most needed as he explains what we should and should not do.

00:26:24.820 There it is. Now is not the time for that awful Trump xenophobia that says that we're allowed to

00:26:38.440 decide who comes into our country. And maybe even though we take the highest number of immigrants

00:26:43.200 anywhere in the world, maybe we could slightly reduce that and it would be okay. Or maybe during

00:26:47.720 a pandemic, we should shut down travel from the place where the pandemic started. You know,

00:26:54.360 crazy ideas like that. He said, we can't do that. We got to leave the borders open.

00:26:58.980 Trump said, no, now we've got the pandemic, which probably one of the most important things to

00:27:03.100 stopping the spread of this virus was shutting down travel from China. And all of a sudden,

00:27:08.380 Joe Biden comes, he says, yeah, he didn't shut down travel soon enough. Does Joe Biden just

00:27:12.400 forget what he said? Possibly. I guess he might forget what he said. He clearly doesn't have

00:27:19.380 a grip on very much these days in the way of either political issues or his own memory. But the media

00:27:26.360 are already playing into this. We'll get to how that is in just one moment. First, I got to say

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00:27:37.100 Glenn Beck has a new book out called Arguing with Socialists. And once we move past this

00:27:42.060 coronavirus thing, we're going to probably spend the rest of the year arguing with socialists. So

00:27:45.660 it's a good book to get a primer on that. You can get that book now on Amazon or wherever,

00:27:49.840 wherever you buy fine books. And if you haven't had a chance to check out the All Access Live show,

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00:28:38.640 So the media are already playing into this Joe Biden revisionist history on coronavirus,

00:28:56.540 on his whole political career, on the main issues of 2020. And they're pushing this to

00:29:04.280 Donald Trump. You know, people forget about Joe Biden because he's just such a secondary news story

00:29:10.280 at this point. And he's such a weak candidate to begin with that all the focus is on Trump. So

00:29:15.540 the press are trying to get Joe Biden back in the conversation. They ask President Trump about

00:29:20.860 Biden's attacks on him. And Trump's answer has been characteristically savage.

00:29:27.300 Joe Biden actually just attacked you in a tweet. I don't know if you have seen it. He just what

00:29:32.600 attacked you? He just said he didn't write anything. Look, he has people. He has professionals

00:29:36.820 from the Democrats. Let me just read what he said. He said Donald Trump is not responsible for the

00:29:41.640 coronavirus, but he is responsible for failing to prepare our nation to respond to it. How do you

00:29:47.100 respond to that? He didn't write that. That was done by a Democrat operative. He doesn't write.

00:29:53.520 He doesn't, he's probably not even watching right now. Uh, and if he is, he doesn't understand what

00:29:59.400 he's watching. This is so brutal. It's, it's like it keeps following in the path of his attacks since

00:30:08.900 Joe Biden nearly clinched the nomination or put himself on the way to get the nomination where he

00:30:14.200 says, look, if Joe Biden gets elected, they say Joe Biden's a little more moderate. Doesn't matter.

00:30:18.340 Joe's not going to be president. They're going to put Joe in a home. Okay. Joe's going to be in a home

00:30:22.700 watching TV. It's fine. It's, he's not going to know what's going on, but that's okay. It's going

00:30:26.600 to be all of his staff and his cabinet running things. And that's true. Joe Biden does not write

00:30:31.940 his own tweets. Donald Trump writes his own tweets. How do we know that? Well, one, because he's been

00:30:36.640 doing that for as long as Twitter has been around and he gets himself in trouble for it. Two, on that

00:30:42.140 point, his staff very often doesn't like what he's tweeting because it creates political headaches

00:30:46.180 for them. Three, there are some kind of random misspellings, just the way that you and I,

00:30:50.020 when we text, we misspell things because you just do it really quickly on your phone.

00:30:55.180 He's writing it, right? Trump is in command of this and the coronavirus has really shown it.

00:30:59.480 That guy is in charge. Okay. That guy, love him or hate him, agree with him or disagree with him.

00:31:04.580 He knows what he's doing. Joe Biden, that's not the case. He can't get a word out of his mouth

00:31:09.200 without flubbing it. Okay. Joe is fine on Twitter because other people are writing his tweets for him.

00:31:14.700 Joe is fine on podcasts because other people are speeding it up. For one, they're literally speeding

00:31:19.180 up the pace of his voice and they're editing it extensively so that you don't have the ums and

00:31:25.220 the awes and the weird things that he's saying. They've actually done it too much. It moves too

00:31:29.420 fast and it's too tightly edited that you can hear that there's nowhere even to breathe in the podcast.

00:31:34.620 Not that anyone's going to be listening to that podcast, but Joe just speaking off the cuff

00:31:39.560 is awkward and usually incoherent. He's been going on friendly media to try to get his message out.

00:31:46.760 It's mostly turned into nonsensical blathering. Here's Joe Biden on ABC news with former Clinton

00:31:54.640 communications director, George Stephanopoulos doesn't get more friendly than that. And Joe

00:32:00.160 still can barely see his way through the interview. We cannot let this. We've never allowed any crisis

00:32:08.000 from the civil war straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around 16. We have never,

00:32:14.160 never let our democracy second fiddle way that we can both have a democracy and elections and at the

00:32:21.640 same time, correct the public health. Can anybody tell me what that means?

00:32:27.520 Could anybody tell me from the beginning to the end of that clip? And since we had in the civil and the,

00:32:33.240 and the flu and we've always been having, uh, and have our cake and not, uh, but make hay while the

00:32:40.780 sun shines and 30 days had September, April, June, and November public health.

00:32:47.760 I think the point at the very end, you could see he got to his talking point, which is we can protect

00:32:53.680 our freedoms, but we can protect public health. Nothing he said in that statement up until that point,

00:33:00.020 which he didn't even totally get out. I'm just reading into what he, I think was trying to say

00:33:05.140 nothing up until that point in that statement had anything to do with that. The guy doesn't know

00:33:14.600 what's happening right now. Okay. He doesn't, it's not even just an age thing. Joe Biden has always been

00:33:22.740 a bumbling, jumbling, not all that with it, glad handing empty suit of a politician,

00:33:29.260 but it's gotten especially bad now because he's not even the man he was four years ago.

00:33:36.240 Joe Biden now cannot even remember how many grandkids he has.

00:33:42.180 And frankly, it's probably worse than that. It's probably the case that Joe Biden can remember how

00:33:48.000 many grandkids he has, but he just doesn't want to acknowledge one of them because one of his

00:33:51.800 grandkids is recently born within the last couple of years and is the illegitimate child that his

00:33:57.580 son Hunter had with a stripper. And Joe Biden doesn't want to even acknowledge that grandchild.

00:34:02.480 Here's Joe. It's been changing every few days, but here's Joe recently on air saying that he's got

00:34:10.140 five grandchildren. I've been doing that forever though. There's a, there's a deal we have.

00:34:15.340 I have five grandchildren and, uh, okay. That is not true. Like many things that Joe Biden says,

00:34:22.300 it's just factually not true. Joe Biden has seven grandchildren. Now Joe says five grandchildren.

00:34:31.120 He forgot about two of them. Okay. Maybe Joe is just losing it a little bit. So in the next interview,

00:34:38.180 Joe Biden has his wife, Jill on Jill, clearly a little bit more with it, but even Jill doesn't

00:34:45.060 seem to remember how many grandchildren they have. Jill says the number is just six.

00:34:50.260 So my name is Jill and this is my husband, Joe. And, uh, your children may not know,

00:34:56.700 but we have three children and we have six grandchildren.

00:34:59.760 Still not true. You have seven grandchildren. Now Jill just can't rely on the excuse that she's

00:35:08.720 lost her marbles. I don't think Jill's lost her marbles, but Beau Biden, Joe Biden's late son

00:35:16.760 had two kids. Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's degenerate son has five kids.

00:35:23.500 They appear now. I mean, if it were just Joe, I'd say he forgot the number, but because Jill is saying

00:35:30.740 this also wrong number, different wrong number, it seems to me that they are just leaving out Hunter

00:35:36.920 Biden's illegitimate child who was born in August of 2018. Biden you'll recall has been in a child

00:35:43.540 support battle over this kid because Hunter Biden is a deadbeat dad and he doesn't want to pay child

00:35:50.460 support to the mother of one of his children. So now we see it's not just that Hunter Biden is a

00:35:56.780 degenerate when it comes to this kid, Joe and Jill are too. Joe and Jill, it would appear are refusing

00:36:04.080 to acknowledge one of their grandchildren because they, they don't like the fact that this child was

00:36:11.600 born under difficult circumstances. That's an ugly thing. And it actually matters to his campaign.

00:36:16.580 I'm not just digging up family dirt here for the sake of it. It matters to the campaign

00:36:20.400 because Joe Biden's whole campaign is I'm going to restore dignity to the office of the president.

00:36:26.660 Joe Biden's entire campaign beginning to end is Donald Trump says mean things and I say nice things.

00:36:32.600 Donald Trump is a mean guy and I'm a nice guy. So in order for that campaign to hold any weight,

00:36:38.920 Joe Biden has to be a nice guy, but nice guys don't refuse to acknowledge one of their grandchildren

00:36:45.400 because they don't like the circumstances of his birth. Okay. This is a bad look. It's a very ugly

00:36:50.280 look for Joe Biden and it's going to come back to haunt him. If, if they were smart, I think probably

00:36:57.100 what Joe and Jill are thinking is let's not even acknowledge the kid because that's going to bring

00:37:01.220 up more headaches. It's going to get it into the news. Maybe it'll screw up the child support and

00:37:05.360 paternity lawsuits that have been going on. That's short-sighted thinking. It's a much worse look

00:37:11.680 for them to callously refuse to acknowledge one of their grandkids than to say, yeah, we have this

00:37:16.960 grandkid. He was born under strange circumstances. All families have some difficulties, but we love

00:37:23.060 our, all of our grandkids, including this one, but they haven't done that. Now moving beyond Joe,

00:37:28.800 who is even now he's got the best political opportunity in his entire life, global pandemic.

00:37:34.160 He could pin a lot of it on Trump if he, if he wanted to twist the facts and he still can't do it

00:37:37.980 successfully. Speaking of 2020 and how hindsight is 2020, we are now beginning to get a better

00:37:44.660 picture of how this virus originated. Okay. And it's making the conservatives who were skeptical

00:37:50.300 look pretty good and it's making China and China's propagandists in the mainstream media

00:37:56.440 look pretty bad. So this idea has been floated for a little while now that it's a hell of a coincidence

00:38:02.840 that this virus begins in a Wuhan wet market, allegedly. And Wuhan is one of the very few

00:38:11.220 places on earth that has a high level virology Institute where China studies very infectious

00:38:18.840 and dangerous diseases, specifically coronavirus diseases. What a weird coincidence, huh? Oh, well,

00:38:25.260 and the mainstream media, I kid you not, they've been saying since the beginning, yup, it's just a weird

00:38:29.060 coincidence. And if you say it's not a coincidence, if you say it's, there's something more going on,

00:38:33.320 then you're a terrible person and a racist and a bigot and a conspiracy theorist. So here's Tom

00:38:37.740 Cotton a couple months ago, floating this theory or not, I guess about a month ago, a little over a

00:38:43.340 month ago, floating this theory that perhaps there's a link between the Wuhan virus and the Wuhan Institute

00:38:51.020 of Virology. We also know that just a few miles away from that food market is China's only

00:38:57.840 biosafety level four super laboratory that researches human infectious diseases. Now,

00:39:04.100 we don't have evidence that this disease originated there, but because of China's duplicity and dishonesty

00:39:11.240 from the beginning, we need to at least ask the question to see what the evidence says. And China

00:39:16.080 right now is not giving any evidence on that question at all. So, so this super lab that you

00:39:21.520 refer to, this super lab is the only one of its kind in this area, in Wuhan, in the province,

00:39:29.400 that area. And what do they do with this super lab? It's unclear, Maria. We have such laboratories

00:39:37.420 ourselves in the United States run by our military in large part done for preventative purposes. We're

00:39:43.320 trying to discover vaccines or to protect our own soldiers. China is obviously very secretive

00:39:48.640 about what happens at the Wuhan laboratory. We don't know, again, where this virus originated.

00:39:54.880 That's why it's so important that we at least ask the questions and get the evidence. But China

00:39:59.620 continues to block our ability to ask those questions and get that evidence. Totally measured,

00:40:05.180 totally reasonable. He's not saying that Xi Jinping threw on a lab coat and created this bioweapon and

00:40:09.860 unleashed it on the world. He's saying there might be a link between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and

00:40:14.680 the virus that began in Wuhan. And we should look into that. And even if it was an accident,

00:40:18.680 we should look into that. Now, lots of evidence is emerging that he was right. But guess what? At

00:40:24.200 the time when he said that, the left called him a conspiracy theorist all over the pages of the

00:40:29.460 mainstream media, all on television. Tom Cotton's a conspiracy theorist pushing a debunked, discredited

00:40:35.100 conspiracy theory, right? Except it wasn't debunked. I guess it's being rebunked right now because a lot

00:40:40.300 of evidence is emerging that he was right and the media were wrong and they were propagandizing

00:40:44.480 for China. So Jim Garrity at National Review had a great piece on this, outlining the evidence the

00:40:49.780 other day. And most of the piece is quoting this guy, Matthew Tai, who creates YouTube videos and who

00:40:57.120 says that he's found the source of the coronavirus. Here are just a smattering of facts. Go watch the

00:41:04.340 YouTube video. Go read the piece at NR. The Wuhan Institute of Virology in China posted a job

00:41:11.220 opening on November 18th, 2019. So right around the time that we're seeing this thing crop up last

00:41:17.440 year, asking for scientists to come research the relationship between coronavirus and bats.

00:41:24.580 Just a coincidence though, probably, right? That's, it's just a, what, what are the odds?

00:41:29.580 Then on December 24th, 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology posted another job opening

00:41:34.280 that said, long-term research on the pathogenic biology of bats carrying important viruses has

00:41:40.500 confirmed the origin of bats of major new human and livestock infectious diseases, such as SARS and

00:41:47.520 SADS and a large number of new bat and rodent new viruses have been discovered and identified.

00:41:52.720 Probably just a coincidence though. I bet the Institute had no idea what was going on. It was

00:41:56.560 just in the wet markets after all. It's just that someone bought a bad bat at the wet market.

00:42:01.340 Then there were reports that a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology named Wang Yanling

00:42:07.220 is believed by many people to be patient zero and is believed by many people to be dead.

00:42:13.500 Now, what did the Chinese government say about this? They said, never happened. They don't know

00:42:17.460 who she is. She never worked there. So for the mainstream media, that's good enough. They'll just

00:42:21.400 print whatever the Chinese government wants them to print for maybe ideological reasons and also

00:42:27.020 financial reasons because China buys up so much American media. Now, this, this woman, Wang Yanling

00:42:33.240 is still not listed on the Institute website, but her, or rather she, she is listed on the Institute

00:42:39.740 website, but her photo and her biography have been removed. There's still a link there, but the link

00:42:44.220 is now dead. So there's clearly a connection, right? South China Morning Post, which is not an anti-Beijing

00:42:50.200 newspaper. It's actually generally friendly to Beijing. They posted on March 13th, quote,

00:42:54.340 according to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year old from Hubei province could have been

00:42:58.980 the first person to have contracted COVID-19 on November 17th. Now the Institute denied that this

00:43:07.300 person, Wang Yanling existed. Then when they got called out on that, they said she did work there,

00:43:13.320 but she no longer does work there. And most importantly, she's not accounted for. They have no idea where she

00:43:17.580 is. Another report around all this time from Chen Huang Zhao, pardon my pronunciation, who's a

00:43:26.400 researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, said that the director of the Institute was responsible

00:43:30.960 for leaking the coronavirus. There's just another report, just adding to the mountain of evidence

00:43:36.980 that may or may not be true, but a lot of it's adding up. Here's another crazy aspect of this that

00:43:43.000 we're getting from all these reports. We were told that the Wuhan wet market that spread the virus

00:43:48.260 was responsible because some people hunted bats and they sold the bats at the wet market and the bat

00:43:52.600 had the disease and the disease spread to everybody. Remember the whole, the whole virus came from bad

00:43:57.640 bat soup. Don't eat bat soup. Don't eat pangolin. Okay. Now there is evidence that the bats that carry

00:44:04.900 this coronavirus do not occur naturally around Wuhan. They don't, you can't just go to a cave in Wuhan

00:44:14.320 and hunt this bat and that's where you're going to get it. That the bat would have to come from

00:44:18.580 someplace else, maybe through the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Just another strange suggestion.

00:44:27.440 Another researcher, Zhao Bo Tao, who goes by a couple other names, a scholar from South China

00:44:31.800 University of Technology, recently published a report that researchers at the Wuhan virus

00:44:36.560 laboratory had been splashed with bat blood and urine and they were quarantined for 14 days

00:44:41.720 because of some kind of accident at the lab. And then cherry on top, if you don't believe any of

00:44:48.860 that, you don't believe any of these people from around the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

00:44:53.340 the CDC, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization,

00:45:00.720 which is a China mouthpiece, could not confirm if the bats that carry the coronavirus were even

00:45:07.940 present at the wet market. So now you're talking about, well, a China source, which is WHO,

00:45:13.820 and a US source, CDC. Neither of them can confirm that the bats that spread the disease

00:45:20.220 were even there at the Wuhan wet market. All these little pieces of evidence start to be adding up

00:45:28.400 and start to dismantle this idea that China, the government knew nothing about this whatsoever.

00:45:33.620 It had nothing to do with the Institute of Virology. And let me tell you, if you believe that it did,

00:45:39.240 you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. Does that mean that China intentionally created and spread this

00:45:44.200 disease? No, it doesn't have to mean that. That's not what Tom Cotton was saying in that interview.

00:45:49.060 Okay, scientists are saying right now that the disease doesn't look manufactured. What does that

00:45:53.000 mean? I have no idea, but I have no reason to dispute the scientists. But of course, the virus

00:45:58.800 could have occurred naturally, been brought to the Institute of Virology to study, had some accident,

00:46:04.340 like the ones described in these reports from China, occur, and then have the virus leak from the lab.

00:46:10.400 Or it could have been deliberate. I don't know. But it doesn't have to be deliberate for there to be a

00:46:14.700 connection there with the Institute. This is not a conspiracy theory, as the left attacked Tom Cotton

00:46:24.720 for saying. Or as the left attacked Tom Cotton for allegedly promoting. Okay, it's a very plausible

00:46:33.360 theory. Actually, when all of that adds up, it's just common sense. Even the Washington Post now,

00:46:39.600 by the way, the people who were calling it a conspiracy theory, they now admit it.

00:46:43.620 From David Ignatius, how did COVID-19 begin? Its initial origin story is shaky.

00:46:48.540 U.S. intelligence officials don't think the pandemic was caused by deliberate wrongdoing.

00:46:52.380 The outbreak that has now swept the world began with a simpler story, albeit one with

00:46:56.140 tragic consequences. The prime suspect is natural transmission from bats to humans,

00:47:00.580 perhaps through unsanitary markets. But scientists don't rule out that an accident at a research

00:47:04.940 laboratory in Wuhan might have spread a deadly bat virus that had been collected for scientific study.

00:47:10.220 So they have to begin with their defense of the Chinese government.

00:47:13.620 They have to begin looking. It shouldn't, it's not deliberate. Okay, it could have been at the

00:47:17.200 wet market, even though we don't have any evidence that the bats were even there.

00:47:21.240 But okay, it could have come from this research laboratory as an accident. And then unbelievably,

00:47:26.480 he goes on to attack Tom Cotton and still kind of hold on to this conspiracy theory idea,

00:47:32.200 even though what Tom Cotton said is essentially what this guy just admitted in the Washington Post.

00:47:36.260 Two big takeaways here. One, we need to know how the disease started. If China intentionally unleashed

00:47:42.740 this thing, then we're at war. If China accidentally unleashed this thing, then we're in the most tense

00:47:50.220 global conflict you can be in short of war. If it's just a coincidence, then the mainstream media

00:47:55.980 still acted recklessly to ignore all of the evidence on the other side and dismiss even the

00:48:02.500 suggestion that there might be a link between the Wuhan virus and the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:48:07.200 Second big takeaway here. The mainstream media will now label anything that disputes their narrative

00:48:12.320 as a conspiracy theory. I've seen this happening recently. Okay, it's been increasing. I don't like

00:48:18.560 conspiracy theories. I am in no way an adherent to conspiracy theories. I always prefer simpler answers

00:48:23.900 to things. But the left is now abusing the term conspiracy theory in exactly the way they've abused

00:48:28.960 the terms racism and sexism and bigotry and all of that to mean things that, to mean basically anything,

00:48:34.980 anything that they don't like. Here's an example. I was recently doing a little research on cultural

00:48:40.280 Marxism. Cultural Marxism is a more recent form of Marxism after Karl Marx himself, which applies

00:48:47.080 tenets of Marxism, which would typically apply to economics and politics, to the culture. Cultural

00:48:52.680 Marxism has a long intellectual pedigree. It begins most conspicuously with an Italian thinker,

00:49:00.640 Antonio Gramsci. Now, I studied a lot of Italian literature and Italian writing when I was in

00:49:06.380 college. So I've known about Antonio Gramsci for a long time. I was taught by mostly left-wing

00:49:11.160 professors. This was, you know, obviously as establishment as it gets when I was in college,

00:49:16.160 right? I've now learned that the phrase cultural Marxism, according to the mainstream media,

00:49:20.460 is a conspiracy theory. And most remarkably, they call it an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory

00:49:26.960 because some cultural Marxists have been Jews. Now, most people who know nothing about cultural

00:49:35.000 Marxism, who know nothing about these writers, they'll just read that and they'll say, okay,

00:49:38.520 it's a conspiracy theory. Anybody who uses that phrase is a conspiracy theorist. But if you have any

00:49:44.080 historical literacy on this topic, you know that cultural Marxism has been around for a long time.

00:49:49.480 There are many Marxists who have referred to themselves as cultural Marxists, Marxists

00:49:53.820 who want to apply the tenets of Marx to the culture, and that the father of cultural Marxism

00:50:01.300 isn't Jewish. He's an Italian guy named Gramsci. It's, how is that anti-Semitic? I guess it's anti-Italo,

00:50:09.480 Italophobic maybe, I guess. But it's certainly not anti-Semitic. But what the mainstream media are

00:50:17.080 counting on is that you have no idea who Gramsci is, or you have no idea what Marxism even is.

00:50:22.740 And certainly as it applies to the culture, you have no idea what ideas like cultural hegemony

00:50:25.860 and the long intellectual history of this topic is. They just want to shut up people who

00:50:31.740 cut through their own narrative. Ironically, in this case, or perhaps expectedly in this case,

00:50:39.300 cultural Marxism. And it's the same thing we're seeing here. If you cut through the mainstream

00:50:43.320 narrative, which is carrying water for China, and you say, you know, maybe we got to take a look at

00:50:47.260 this lab that's a couple miles away from where they say the virus was discovered, the lab that's

00:50:53.140 studying coronavirus and bats, maybe there's something there. They tell you, no, no way,

00:50:57.080 you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. Well, now we've punctured that veil. The only conspiracy theories

00:51:01.700 are the propaganda being peddled by the mainstream media to cover up for very, very bad actors around

00:51:07.140 the world. There's some good news that we're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but now

00:51:12.000 we're going to have to look backward and figure out who got us to this unprecedented moment of a global

00:51:19.300 shutdown in the first place. There's going to be a lot of value placed on hindsight, and that hindsight

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 06, 2020

Ep. 523 - Hindsight Is 2020

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