The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 538

00:00:00.000 The FBI destroyed former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn's life for political purposes,

00:00:07.260 according to new documents that have been released years after the fact.

00:00:10.620 And for some reason, the mainstream media that colluded with the bureaucrats to trash the general

00:00:15.360 don't want to run the story. Yahoo News spreads lies straight to the president's face,

00:00:20.420 which is unwise when you're dealing with Donald Trump. And even that story about the poor,

00:00:24.900 confused lady who was convinced by Trump to feed her husband fish tank cleaner to stop the

00:00:30.480 coronavirus turns out to be shady, all of which brings up an important political reality.

00:00:36.220 All news is fake. Some of it's true, but all of it's fake. Then power mad politicians get

00:00:42.700 crueler and crueler with no end in sight. And finally, the mailbag. All that and more.

00:00:47.500 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:05.260 about us box? So that they know that we sent you. The biggest fake news story of at least the last

00:02:12.460 year. Well, there was impeachment. So I guess maybe it's tied with impeachment. But certainly the

00:02:17.020 biggest fake news story, not directly involving Donald Trump. And we just found out about it

00:02:23.360 yesterday. Michael Flynn. Do you remember Michael Flynn? He's been out of the news after they,

00:02:29.180 after they scalped him through the mainstream media. Michael Flynn was the incoming national

00:02:34.500 security advisor when Donald Trump got elected. Then we heard that the FBI found out he did something

00:02:41.640 with the Russians and foreign governments. And we don't know exactly. And it's all very vague,

00:02:46.940 but anyway, he's out of his job and he's going to jail if he doesn't cut a deal with the government.

00:02:52.720 Turns out it now appears that the FBI set him up and they didn't just set him up to nab him for some

00:03:01.380 wrongdoing. He did. They set him up for political purposes. This is according to handwritten notes,

00:03:07.420 which were just released. So the FBI investigation, they had these various goals into Flynn. Flynn was

00:03:17.080 coming in as the NSA and he had spoken to some foreign officials, including some from Russia.

00:03:22.200 This is back, don't forget when they were pushing the idea that the Trump administration was colluding

00:03:27.620 with the Russians. They used the Russians to rig the election. Obviously we found out that was based on

00:03:32.220 absolutely nothing. And ironically, we found out the only group that did collude with the Russians

00:03:37.240 was the Hillary Clinton campaign and the democratic party, which paid a foreign operative with ties to

00:03:43.400 Moscow to set up Trump with that fake steel dossier. All of that's ancient history and it's going to

00:03:49.640 come back, but we'll get to that another day. Specifically here, we're talking about Mike Flynn because

00:03:54.780 Mike Flynn, he's a private citizen, but he's about to become the national security advisor. So he's

00:03:59.380 talking to people from foreign governments and the FBI decides they're going to get him on this

00:04:03.440 for a violation of a 1799 law called the Logan Act, which no one has ever been successfully prosecuted

00:04:10.140 for, but it bars private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. So that was one goal that

00:04:17.320 they had in dealing with Flynn. And that was absolutely ridiculous. I don't think anybody ever takes that

00:04:23.800 seriously. Then the alternate goal was to get Flynn to admit to some wrongdoing in talking to this

00:04:32.940 foreign government or to catch him in a lie. So far so good. Okay. Because even though it's pretty shady,

00:04:42.620 law enforcement does this all the time, either they get you to admit to doing something wrong or they set

00:04:47.820 you up so that you lie and then they've got you and they can prosecute you. That's not even the

00:04:52.460 biggest problem. The biggest problem here is the last little part in the handwritten notes. They say

00:04:58.980 a key goal of the agents investigating Flynn was quote, to get him to lie so we can prosecute him

00:05:05.920 or get him fired. This is the big problem. Actually, a lot of the reporting on this right now,

00:05:14.740 which is only being done in conservative outlets, it's focusing on the idea that they're going to

00:05:18.440 try to catch him in a lie. But law enforcement does that all the time. Is it ugly? Is it ugly when

00:05:24.520 it's an incoming administration that law enforcement is targeting? Yes, of course. Is it even shocking to

00:05:30.680 our democratic sensibilities? Yes. But it's this or get him fired. The FBI did not want Michael Flynn

00:05:38.960 to be the national security advisor. They had political problems with him.

00:05:44.560 If it were that he committed a crime and they want to get him, then okay, prosecute him for it.

00:05:49.400 But get him fired is just more evidence of what we've seen from the very beginning,

00:05:54.800 which is that the FBI, bad actors in the DOJ and the FBI were interfering in the political process in

00:06:02.900 this country because they didn't want Donald Trump to get elected president because they didn't like his

00:06:07.560 politics. They didn't like him personally. We saw this in the emails or the text messages rather

00:06:12.560 from FBI agents, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, those adulterous deep state agents.

00:06:20.700 We saw this from the very beginning, right? You saw text messages from people at the FBI and DOJ saying,

00:06:26.680 we won't let Donald Trump become president. Don't worry. We've got an insurance policy.

00:06:31.880 And so this is no, it's no surprise. I guess it's just a surprise that we now see the documents.

00:06:37.160 And now it looks like Michael Flynn will either have this case dismissed or he will be pardoned by

00:06:44.160 the president, which he should. It is outrageous. From Flynn's lawyer, the government produced to

00:06:50.400 Mr. Flynn stunning Brady evidence that proves Mr. Flynn's allegations of having been deliberately set

00:06:56.400 up and framed by corrupt agents at the top of the FBI. The government has deliberately suppressed

00:07:02.340 this evidence from the inception of this prosecution knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn. Probably

00:07:10.440 the first place you're hearing about this is either on this show or maybe on a conservative website. You

00:07:16.320 certainly have not heard about this first from the mainstream media because they're not covering it.

00:07:21.560 They covered the baseless allegations. They covered the absolute corrupt setup. You know,

00:07:29.040 the FBI line, the DOJ line, they covered that ad nauseum for years, but the exoneration they don't

00:07:36.900 cover because all news is fake. Even the news that is true is fake. President Trump illustrated this

00:07:43.720 point just the other day. He was giving a press conference. He was sitting with Governor Ron DeSantis

00:07:48.960 of Florida and a reporter was insistent that the numbers, the data were so much worse than Trump was

00:07:56.840 suggesting it was. And then it turned out, guess what? Yahoo News got the data wrong.

00:08:02.280 Mr. President, overall, South Korea has done five times more tests than the U.S. per capita. Why is

00:08:07.780 that? I don't think that's true. That is true. And you said this morning that the White House said

00:08:11.620 the U.S. passes South Korea virus testing. Who are you with? Yahoo News. We'll be looking at this.

00:08:16.740 So to our Yahoo gentlemen, I just want to make it clear that South Korea's testing was 11

00:08:23.660 per 100,000, and we're at 17 per 100,000. Are you going to apologize, Yahoo? That's why you're

00:08:32.280 Yahoo. Nobody knows who that you are. Go ahead. Based on the numbers I've seen, that's why nobody

00:08:36.980 knows who you are, including me. Go ahead, Mr. President. Just check it again. You're going to get

00:08:41.000 your facts right. Well, we have had 14 times. Okay, well, your facts are wrong. Well, no, but based on the

00:08:46.900 numbers that I had, which are obviously completely fictional and just came out of my imagination,

00:08:51.220 it turns out you've done a terrible job, Mr. President. Yeah, but what about the actual

00:08:55.460 numbers from the data? No, but look, I didn't do anything wrong, even though I completely lied.

00:09:00.760 My numbers could not have possibly been more wrong, but I said them and I'm wearing a suit

00:09:05.020 and tie and I'm the very serious mainstream media. So I'm not going to apologize. I love

00:09:10.220 the way Trump handles it here. He says, yeah, are you going to, you know, Dr. He goes, what does

00:09:14.360 he know, right? Trump, it's not like Trump has all of the data right in front of him at any

00:09:17.900 given moment. So he says, I don't think those numbers are right, Buster, but I don't know.

00:09:23.180 Okay, I guess we'll go check them. Dr. Birx says, no, I've got them right here. The numbers

00:09:26.220 are not right. He goes, oh yeah, you're fake news. This is why no one listens to you. That's

00:09:30.360 why no one pays attention to you because you're the lying fake news. Why did I even think otherwise?

00:09:36.500 And Dr. Birx is trying to be like the nice mom kind of there. She's like, okay, well just

00:09:41.160 maybe, you know, next time check the numbers. Trump is like, yeah, you're a liar and no one

00:09:44.380 should ever pay attention to you again. And that's true of the entire mainstream media

00:09:50.040 apparatus. I'll give you an example, even of a kind of a silly story. I mean, it's not

00:09:56.200 silly because it's sort of sad and it's sort of mysterious and it's getting darker by the

00:10:00.360 moment, but you know, it's not a story of national security or national importance.

00:10:06.340 You remember when President Trump was talking about that drug hydroxychloroquine, which was

00:10:10.720 showing a lot of promise to treat the coronavirus. And then there was this story where a woman and

00:10:17.380 her husband drank the fish tank cleaner because one of the ingredients was chloroquine phosphate,

00:10:25.320 which is not, obviously it's not the drug that was being used to treat coronavirus, but it had the

00:10:30.220 word chloroquine in it. So they drink fish tank cleaner and the husband dies. And all of us at the

00:10:34.840 time, we said, uh, something here doesn't sound right, but they portrayed it as, oh, Trump told

00:10:41.260 us to take this drug and my, my husband died and I'm so distraught about it. Well, even that story,

00:10:47.360 which was being pushed in the mainstream media as like Trump is responsible for this guy's death,

00:10:52.640 turns out it's now being investigated as a murder. And the murderer in this case is not suspected to be

00:11:00.600 President Trump. It's the wife, like a lot of us suggested in the first place. We'll get to the

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00:12:27.740 looked at it. We said, I don't, I don't think President Trump's responsible for this guy's death.

00:12:32.260 I'm a little skeptical that this death was an accident to begin with. So now a homicide unit

00:12:39.260 is investigating the death of this man. This is the Mesa City Police Department's Homicide Division

00:12:44.660 investigating the death of Gary Linius, who is the Arizona man whose wife gave him a Coca-Cola or some

00:12:52.640 kind of soft drink mixed with the fish tank cleaner that she said she did to save him from the coronavirus.

00:12:59.720 A detective handling the case confirmed the Washington Free Beacon that all of this is

00:13:05.920 happening after speaking with Linius's wife, Wanda. You know, there's a story that came out

00:13:11.060 after the, the death, which said that the Arizona man who died from drinking fish tank cleaner was

00:13:18.740 known as a very intelligent man. And a lot of people on the internet, they said, I obviously wasn't that

00:13:24.340 intelligent if he's drinking fish tank cleaner. But the, actually the point of that headline,

00:13:27.940 the point of that story was something doesn't sit right. I think he was a mechanical engineer and

00:13:32.040 he was a pretty sharp guy. Apparently there was a troubled marriage. The wife was apparently

00:13:36.480 vicious to him in public, according to multiple reports. So now this story, which was originally

00:13:42.600 posed as Trump's loose mouth is causing people to die all around the country because his irresponsible

00:13:48.720 words, he's got blood on his hands. Now the story is a woman possibly murdered her husband

00:13:53.000 and then blamed Trump for it. Just like the mainstream media blamed Trump for every single

00:13:59.300 thing. Do you think the mainstream media are going to cover that part of the story? No,

00:14:03.580 it's just drive by. It's just, you take the snipe at Trump. Who cares if it's true or not?

00:14:08.240 You take the snipe, you take out his national security advisor based on nothing, based on crook

00:14:12.940 FBI agents. Okay, that's fine. We'll move on. Oh, he's going to get exonerated later. Well,

00:14:17.380 no big deal. We're already going to be so far past that story that it's not going to matter at all.

00:14:21.500 Don't forget the piece de resistance, the Joe Biden story, the Joe Biden. Oh my gosh. The Kavanaugh

00:14:29.380 allegations went on minute by minute, 24, seven, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for that whole

00:14:36.940 hearing. And even afterward, Christine Blasey Ford, believe all women. Brett Kavanaugh,

00:14:41.900 who's just some milquetoast lawyer from DC is actually a gang rapist. He's probably part of MS 13

00:14:46.660 or something, right? Remember that? We have to believe all women. And then after that story

00:14:54.020 passes, no evidence, by the way, that Kavanaugh ever even met his accuser. She changed her story

00:15:00.660 multiple times. No evidence. She couldn't tell us when the party was at which the incident took,

00:15:06.000 allegedly took place. Couldn't tell us how many people were there, who was there, what date it was,

00:15:10.140 nothing, nothing. The one friend who she said, yeah, she'll corroborate it. The friend said, no,

00:15:15.900 this never happened. I don't, what are you talking about? Nothing there. And they were ready to

00:15:21.640 prosecute Brett Kavanaugh for rape. Now we got Joe Biden, a former staffer who says that has a very

00:15:29.960 specific complaint against him. We've got some evidence at the time because her mother coincidentally

00:15:36.100 called into a Larry King show to talk about this. She's got corroborating evidence at the time

00:15:40.820 because she told a friend when it happened, what happened. None of that is being covered.

00:15:48.460 And Hillary Clinton, who said, we have to believe all women. She endorses him. Stacey Abrams, who said,

00:15:55.860 we need to believe all women. She endorses him. The founder of the Me Too movement just came out

00:16:03.540 and endorsed Joe. More or less endorsed Joe with a bunch of mealy-mouthed words. Listen to this. This

00:16:08.180 is unbelievable. So she, she's widely credited as being one of the founders of the movement,

00:16:13.680 Tarana Burke. She said, my stance has never wavered. Survivors have a right to speak their truth

00:16:19.640 and to be given a place to heal. Okay. So now, wait, hold on. I thought the Me Too movement was

00:16:27.040 believe women who say that men raped them because they haven't been believed before.

00:16:34.700 Now the stance is people who, who experience sexual assault have a right to speak. They've

00:16:41.120 always had a right to speak. They have a first amendment. That's not, it can't be what the

00:16:44.160 Me Too movement is, but they're moving the goalposts. The inconvenient truth is that this story is

00:16:48.380 impacting us differently because it hits at the heart of one of the most important elections in

00:16:52.520 our lifetime. Oh, here we go. Every election, right? Every single election is the most important

00:16:56.660 election in our lifetime, especially to the left. And I hate to disappoint you, but I don't really

00:17:01.000 have easy answers. Yeah, you don't because if you followed the logic of your own position, you would

00:17:07.400 have to obviously withdraw any endorsement from Joe Biden. And then here it is. I love this. This is

00:17:13.440 the, the logic. On the one hand, Tara Reid, the accuser, has been afforded the opportunity to speak

00:17:20.760 her truth through mainstream media reporting on her claims and ongoing investigative journalism.

00:17:26.900 She should have been able to come forward in a process when she was treated fairly in a trusted

00:17:31.120 system. Instead, like other public survivors before her, she had to rely on journalists in order to be

00:17:37.300 heard precisely because the systems for survivors are not in place. So she's saying she's a survivor,

00:17:42.460 implying that it is, it is an established fact that this woman survived a sexual assault.

00:17:47.740 On the other hand, she writes, the defense of Joe Biden shouldn't rest on whether or not he's a

00:17:57.300 good guy or our only hope. The defense of Joe Biden, meaning, look, he's the only democratic

00:18:04.100 candidate, so we have to defend him. Okay. Instead, he could demonstrate what it looks like

00:18:11.560 to be both accountable and electable. All right. That's it. Words have no meaning anymore.

00:18:20.320 Politics has no meaning anymore. It, he could demonstrate what it looks like to be accountable

00:18:28.000 and electable. Accountable to what? Accountable to his crime. That's what she's saying. She's

00:18:32.300 already established that the crime actually happened because Tara Reid's a survivor and she

00:18:35.940 knows that she has to believe all women. So therefore, Joe Biden committed the crime, which is why he's

00:18:39.840 got to be held accountable, but we can't just throw him overboard because this is the most important

00:18:45.300 election in our lifetime. So he's also got to be electable. So now the head of the Me Too movement

00:18:50.300 is saying we need to elect a rapist because, because he's a leftist and because words have no meaning and

00:19:00.960 because I want to, says the Me Too movement. It would be difficult for her to be clearer in this

00:19:09.380 point. The Me Too movement has gone from, we got to stop these terrible men and we got to believe all

00:19:14.180 women to let's elect a rapist. By the way, you think that's going to get covered in the mainstream media?

00:19:21.420 I don't think so. All news is fake. Some of it is true.

00:19:29.280 What does that mean? Now, what that means is occasionally a true story or a true fact will

00:19:34.280 make it through the mainstream media, but that is a bug, not a feature of the system. Okay, that,

00:19:40.760 either the true story will get through because the editors didn't think it through or because all of a

00:19:46.460 sudden the truth will fit the narrative. The reason all news is fake is because it's not news. It does

00:19:51.680 not exist to report the news. It does not care about the truth. It does not care about investigation

00:19:56.920 and pursuing evidence and telling you what actually happened. That is not the point. And that has

00:20:02.560 basically never been the point, but certainly now that is not the point of the mainstream media.

00:20:06.720 The point of the mainstream media is to push a leftist narrative. It will ignore facts that

00:20:13.360 are inconvenient. It will invent facts, whole fantasies that will serve its purpose.

00:20:22.660 I know that conservatives like to complain about this. I'm not complaining about this. I'm simply

00:20:28.680 stating it as a fact. The mainstream media does not exist to tell you the news. The news is not the

00:20:35.160 news. The news is a left-wing narrative. We don't need to whine and complain about that. We just need to

00:20:40.120 know it and discard what they're saying, or at least discount what they're saying. Sometimes you can get

00:20:46.240 pretty good information because there are good reporters there. And when it suits their narrative,

00:20:49.820 you can get the good information. But beyond that, you need to question every single, not even

00:20:56.000 question. You need to have a basic stance of disbelief for anything you are reading in the mainstream

00:21:03.280 media. And then if it happens to be true, you can be pleasantly surprised. But you should never,

00:21:08.400 ever, ever take anything in the mainstream media at face value, even when it's true. Because when it

00:21:13.700 happens to be true, you know that it is only being reported to you because that truth happens to serve

00:21:20.040 the leftist agenda. Beyond all of this fake news, on another aspect of corruption in our government,

00:21:27.800 we're getting massive government overreach because of this coronavirus. You know about

00:21:33.160 the governors and the mayors that we've been reporting on, but it's going on with some of

00:21:37.540 the cops too. There was a video that just came out from some cops in Wisconsin, accosting a mother

00:21:43.800 showing up at her door and harassing her because she let her kid play with a neighbor kid down the

00:21:50.120 street. Hi, Amy. Hi. I'm Deputy Everhart with the Sheriff's Department. So are you aware that we're in a

00:21:56.500 stay-at-home order right now? Yeah, obviously. By the government? Yes, I am aware. Okay, you're

00:22:01.660 aware of that? I am aware. So I don't need to explain that to you? No, you don't need to explain

00:22:05.440 that to me. Okay, because I can if you need me to. You can because your officer was just here two

00:22:10.660 weeks ago and he explained it to me that you guys weren't enforcing that order. Oh, we're about to.

00:22:16.360 Okay. You understand it though? Okay, so why are you here? Because your daughter is going to play at

00:22:20.820 other people's home and you're allowing it to happen. They were over here as well. So are you

00:22:27.100 here? And they've been talked to about it. Okay, I understand. Okay. And so either you can acknowledge

00:22:32.400 it or you can argue. I'm acknowledging it. Okay, stop having your kid go by other people's home.

00:22:37.240 Okay, I acknowledge it. Anything else? Nope, that was it. Apparently there was some other issue.

00:22:41.760 I acknowledged it. I acknowledged it. Anything else? All right, this punk cop needs to get a new job.

00:22:47.300 All right, I, you will never find a bigger defender of cops than me. Okay, I got, got friends who are

00:22:53.340 cops. They have a very difficult job. They keep order. They keep us safe. But some punks overstep

00:22:59.940 their bounds and they like to flex their power. And this guy would appear to be one of them.

00:23:04.600 The way he's speaking to this woman, do you know what you're doing? Do you know what you're doing?

00:23:07.940 Excuse me. Excuse me. Do you know what you're doing? You're letting your daughter play with her

00:23:11.080 friend. Uh, this is America. You can't let your daughter play with her friend. Excuse me. Excuse me.

00:23:17.320 Do you understand what I'm telling you? Like, shut up, dude. Give me a freaking break. And that,

00:23:22.760 by the way, that's not it. I love that this woman recorded it. I love that this woman posted this on

00:23:27.960 the internet. I hope that I was wishing the whole time I'm watching, I'm like, it's saying, is this a

00:23:32.360 hoax? Is this really happening in the United States of America? But that wasn't the end of it. She

00:23:38.620 goes, yes, I've understood the absolutely idiotic things you're telling me, officer. Because, because by the

00:23:45.140 way, when we think of the epicenter of the coronavirus, we think of Wisconsin, right?

00:23:49.580 We think of the middle of nowhere. You can see the woods all over Wisconsin. That's where it's

00:23:52.980 happening, right? Not in the big cities like New York or anything like that. This is, by the way,

00:23:58.700 what are we in the fifth or sixth week into this? When we were told initially 2 million,

00:24:02.220 4 million Americans are going to die. Now that number has been reduced by well over an order of

00:24:06.900 magnitude. And yet, as the virus seems less virulent day by day, the enforcement mechanisms

00:24:13.540 of the state get more and more intense. They double down on their power grab. That wasn't even

00:24:20.160 the end of it. She says, can I go now? Are we good? And this other woman says, absolutely not.

00:24:25.340 We're going to put your name in a report and we're going to make sure that you never let your

00:24:30.040 daughter play with another kid again. Yeah, I need your last name. Amy, what's your last name?

00:24:35.720 I'm not, do you, is there a reason you're asking for it? I'm adding you to the screen so we can

00:24:39.920 document that we had contact with you. Is there a reason for it? Yep, because you're violating

00:24:45.020 the state order, which is, if you let me finish, that's what I'm explaining to you. Because you're

00:24:50.100 violating an order. I haven't violated an order. We're going to have documentation in our

00:24:54.720 screen with your name because we're here talking to you about that, that you said you just

00:24:59.200 acknowledged. Okay. So then there's documentation. I would like to see the law that requires me to

00:25:03.880 give you that information. Oh, I love this woman. I want this woman to run for governor. She's so

00:25:11.400 good how she's handling them. Because by the way, the cops there, they don't have an answer for it.

00:25:17.480 What, the law? What's the law? I never heard of that thing. The law, how do you spell that?

00:25:23.260 L-A-A-W. Oh, L-A-W. Okay, I got to look that. I'm going to Google that when I get home.

00:25:29.200 And initially, the woman goes, yeah, I need your name. So vindictive. Yeah, I need your name. And

00:25:35.220 the, and the woman says, uh, why do you need my name? And then the cop says, I, if you let me

00:25:42.280 finish, I'm telling you, no, you didn't, you're not explaining anything. You're, you just asked for

00:25:46.620 her name and the woman asked you a question why, and then you got even more aggressive. And then she

00:25:50.180 finally, here's the kicker. She says, show me the law. I have to do this. Show me the law where I'm not

00:25:57.440 allowed to let, so let my daughter play with another kid. And the cop totally dumbfounded

00:26:02.200 both of them. What a disgrace, what a disgraceful interaction we just saw. It's going on all over

00:26:07.840 the country. Enough, enough of this. Gavin Newsom, daddy Newsom, the governor of California. You know,

00:26:13.360 he's, he's been lightening up a little bit on how to open up California. He says, okay,

00:26:19.480 all right. Now that obviously all of our models and predictions were wrong, and there's a lot of

00:26:23.380 evidence that the lockdown isn't helping anybody at all. And, uh, and, and now that we've listened

00:26:28.600 to Huey Lewis in the news, we're going to start slowly opening up California. So we're going to

00:26:33.040 open up retail shops and schools and daycare, but we're not going to open up churches for months.

00:26:37.200 Fine. Whatever, dude, whatever, just open it up, right? No, now he's making good on a threat that

00:26:43.780 he made a few days ago. He said, listen, if you're not all good little boys and girls, I'm not going to

00:26:47.400 let you go to the beach this weekend. And we said, please, daddy Newsom, please let us go to the beach.

00:26:51.320 We'll be good little formerly free Americans. And he said, no, well, he's making good on that.

00:26:56.020 A source, uh, close to Fox LA, it just reported that California will be closing all the beaches,

00:27:04.420 even the ones that they'd started to open this weekend, because governor Newsom is very upset

00:27:08.860 that we weren't all good little boys and girls last weekend. And some people

00:27:12.100 showed up to the beach and they didn't stay far enough apart. The more the evidence

00:27:17.560 cuts against this hysterical alarmist narrative, the more the power grabbers are going to double

00:27:24.360 down. Very sad situation. How has it happened? In large part, it's happened because we have been

00:27:30.620 hypnotized by the fake news media, because we believe mistakenly that the mainstream media are

00:27:38.860 reporting the news. They're not. They are a propaganda apparatus for power hungry idiots,

00:27:45.400 whether they're in the federal bureaucracy or whether they're in the state house in California,

00:27:50.140 or whether there's some two bit cops in Wisconsin screaming at a woman and intimidating her because

00:27:56.460 she let her little daughter play with her friend. Enough of that. It's over. Forget the whole narrative.

00:28:03.720 Okay. Especially now that the scientific data are actually contradicting these alarmists,

00:28:09.860 sometimes in the pages of the New York Times itself. Okay. Enough of that. I, you know,

00:28:16.100 tonight, Steven Crowder is going to be doing a special on coronavirus and he will be using his

00:28:23.120 typical flair to be presenting the evidence for, for these lockdowns and the evidence against it and

00:28:29.700 the evidence against giving away so many of our political rights. I sat down and chatted with

00:28:34.100 Mr. Crowder just a few days ago. We'll get to that in a second. First though,

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00:29:26.440 We'll be right back with Steven Crowder and the mailbag. All right. I sat down with Steven

00:29:44.040 Crowder before his big coronavirus stream tonight. Here's what he had to say.

00:29:48.960 It's the mob. And I'm not saying that all of these people are Nazis. Okay. I want to be really

00:29:57.380 clear, but when people say, how could that ever happen? How could a group of people ever be so

00:30:01.380 vilified that people were willing to snitch on them and turn them into the SS? Well, I don't know.

00:30:05.300 How could someone call the authorities to send men with guns after a mom for swinging her child

00:30:11.200 in the park? It's happening all over the country too. So all these, these snitch lines,

00:30:17.140 you know, de Blasio has one, which some of my listeners sent some lovely photographs to. I

00:30:22.120 think other people did as well. Uh, you had this in, in Laredo, Texas, you had this in California.

00:30:26.760 So you have all these snitch lines. Now I remember when I saw the headline about the contact racing,

00:30:31.400 it said Apple and Google team up. And I didn't even finish the headline. I saw Apple and Google

00:30:37.120 team up. I said, get the go bag, get the car ready. We're getting the hell out of Dodge.

00:30:40.800 Yes, exactly. People were preparing for like some kind of an EMT attack or something when you watch

00:30:45.600 preppers. And you're like, no, no, it was just Tim Cook and Zuckerberg having a cocktail hour.

00:30:51.300 And all of a sudden, all of our information is public and our rights are gone. Do you realize

00:30:56.020 people it's, it's the dark night, right? With Morgan Freeman saying he couldn't go this far

00:31:00.520 with Christian Bale. Sorry, Bruce Wayne. I'm getting my, I'm getting names and characters

00:31:04.540 mixed up the fictional and the reality. But he said, listen, this is, this is a nanny state. We can't

00:31:09.080 be doing this. Um, we're at this point where people are demanding it. And so even if this

00:31:13.500 government doesn't acquiesce to it, the next government can, once you have that data, who

00:31:17.880 believes that, who believes that Apple and Facebook are going to destroy it. That's how they make money.

00:31:23.300 That's how they track you down. Like Mrs. Pac-Man with advertisements for you. Every time you log in,

00:31:27.880 you think they're all of a sudden going to just light it in a house fire after this. It is so

00:31:32.440 terrifying to me that people are not only giving up civil rights with sort of a give and take,

00:31:38.300 they're demanding that they be taken away from them. And it's crazy to me to see some of these

00:31:43.260 conservatives out there who've, who are still demanding it.

00:31:46.440 Well, that's the trouble. They're still demanding it. I get it. I'm willing to admit

00:31:50.040 the States have a police power in times of war, in times of plague, right? Even the federal government

00:31:56.940 has that power. So I get it. But now we have the data. The whole point of the lockdowns was don't

00:32:02.500 overwhelm the hospital system and try to drag this thing out until we have a vaccine. We're not going to

00:32:07.060 get a vaccine within a year and the hospital system is not overwhelmed. All those in Javits

00:32:11.700 Center, all that is, is empty. So now there is no argument for the lockdowns. And yet now you still

00:32:18.600 have even conservatives saying we need to prolong it. Were you surprised at how fast the conservatives

00:32:25.100 rolled over?

00:32:26.980 Uh, some no, some yes. Yeah. Some no, some yes. I mean, you know, I was pretty flippant about it.

00:32:33.480 And at one point, I remember behind the scenes going like, uh, I don't know, is this going to be

00:32:36.580 worse? And I said, you know what, I'm already in this now. Um, so I just had to keep going with it.

00:32:41.920 You know, I had my doctor on, I had my personal physician on and we did some bits and it was kind

00:32:45.580 of funny, but he talked about, I mean, early, early on, I told people, listen, I don't know why

00:32:50.020 they're saying don't wear masks. I think it's because they need them for healthcare workers, but

00:32:52.960 here's how you can make a mask at home. And by the way, I got that information from an article that

00:32:57.600 was highlighted by the CDC years ago. So I was, and they're telling you not to wear masks. If you

00:33:02.460 wear a mask and it's 70% effective in filtering as you breathe in the air, and it's almost a hundred

00:33:07.560 percent effective in making sure that your airborne droplets don't make it out. Well, I like those

00:33:12.660 odds. I don't know why people are still trusting the medical establishment like these conservatives

00:33:17.420 when they've been doing a flip-flop. I mean, they said, don't wear masks. They said it couldn't

00:33:21.440 be a transmitted from human to human contact, the world health organization. Listen, YouTube and

00:33:26.640 Facebook, they're saying we're going to remove anything that doesn't, that isn't in line, right?

00:33:31.440 That isn't congruent with the world health organization standards. But hold on a second.

00:33:34.500 What if they're wrong? Like when they said no human to human contact, like first off,

00:33:39.640 does it even require a scientist? Does it even require a scientist to know that if it, if a virus

00:33:44.100 exists, you probably shouldn't be grabbing people's faces. Like I've read it back then going,

00:33:49.080 okay, even if this is severe and I didn't think it was going to be, you shouldn't be licking people's

00:33:53.760 neck. Right. Of course they just, it's this bizarre thing where even the conservatives now

00:34:00.800 are trusting governments that are changing their mind within five minutes. It is actually like 1984

00:34:07.620 to me. The mask thing was the best one because it was the surgeon general tweets out. He goes,

00:34:11.740 stop buying masks, multiple exclamation points. Then the next day buy masks. It's like Oceania has

00:34:18.480 always been at war with East Asia, Oceania, right? Like totally Orwellian. Yeah. And yet we're still

00:34:24.100 trusting it. And amidst all of this, you've got the crazy coronavirus stuff. This is how whipped up

00:34:30.040 into a frenzy we are is that few days ago, the U S government came out and admitted, acknowledged

00:34:37.580 to my knowledge for the first time ever, that there are UFOs, that there are actual unidentified flying

00:34:43.960 objects. And do you know what the reaction of most people was? Eh, whatever. Let's keep talking about

00:34:48.760 how orange. I guess Tom from blink 182 needed a win, you know? And I, you know what, frankly,

00:34:53.880 I still think he's an idiot. He makes a very good point. He'll get into that much more, probably not

00:34:58.920 the UFOs as much, but he will get into coronavirus much more tonight. So go check that one out. Let's

00:35:02.620 get to the mailbag from Robbie. In your opinion, who is the greater threat to the United States of Russia

00:35:08.100 or China? China. It's very, that's very easy. People who say Russia are the same people who

00:35:17.260 cheered on the rise of China and said that China should go join the world trade organization and

00:35:23.520 who turned a blind eye to China stealing our intellectual property and illegally subsidizing

00:35:27.800 its steel and aluminum and playing games with its own currency. And people who, who believed in a

00:35:37.620 world order that is not coming to fruition like they promised us and which is breaking down all

00:35:42.440 around us. I think of the, the Russia answer on that is kind of like that Mitt Romney energy. You

00:35:48.120 know, it's just, it's so unimaginative. It's caught up in this worldview that just day by day seems less

00:35:55.780 and less connected with reality. Whereas the real threat, which has been right in front of our nose for

00:36:01.040 20 years is China. From Anthony. Hey Michael, I'm a recent high school grad from Philadelphia and a

00:36:07.240 recent Daily Wire subscriber. Lately, I've been thinking back on some of my history classes in

00:36:11.560 school and how many of them took such a far left-wing approach to most of the lessons. Without

00:36:15.920 going into too much detail, some of these lessons were misleading or just flat out lies as to how things

00:36:20.040 really were and the effect they had on our country. So it got me thinking about how might future

00:36:25.120 generations be taught about the Trump presidency in school, especially when compared to past

00:36:29.620 presidents. Will they be taught the truth? Will it be something similar to how the media portrays

00:36:34.780 President Trump or a mixture of both? No, it will be a left-wing perspective. That is what happens in

00:36:39.860 schools. That is the purpose of schools. That is why, you know, it used to be you went to school from

00:36:44.960 first grade to 12th grade and then very small number of people went to college and that was it. And then

00:36:50.600 you got out into the world and then they added kindergarten and then they added basically you've,

00:36:56.940 you've got to go to college, right? They've said that college is a human right and everyone's got

00:37:00.800 to go to college even if you take out a lot of loans to do it and even if you don't get a decent

00:37:05.420 education for it and even if you're never going to be able to pay back those loans because you don't

00:37:09.360 get a good job. So then they extend college out that way. Now you basically have to go to pre-K.

00:37:13.900 I never went to pre-K, but that seems like, I know people whose kids are like two years old and they

00:37:19.300 go to pre-K now, pre-pre-pre-K. So they just keep extending that out because it gives the state and it

00:37:25.280 gives the left-wing culture more of an opportunity to teach their own highly dubious view of the world.

00:37:32.640 So that is pretty much always going to be the case, certainly as long as the left controls the

00:37:37.020 culture, which isn't going to change anytime soon. I do think though there is an advantage here for

00:37:41.780 some conservatives, which is when you're taught all of this stuff in school for 12 years or 13 years

00:37:47.720 or 20 years or however long you're in school, you know the left-wing argument very well.

00:37:53.180 And so when you know the conservative argument as well, you're in a much better position to make

00:37:59.000 your points and I mean even forget about interpersonal debate, even just to understand what you think

00:38:04.720 because you've got all the best arguments from the left and then you can on your own accumulate the

00:38:09.780 arguments from the right and you can weigh them and see which ones are better. The left does not

00:38:13.580 have that opportunity. The left knows what they know, right? They know the left-wing point of view.

00:38:18.620 Most of them have never encountered the right-wing point of view. They have no idea what we believe.

00:38:22.100 They think that you're pro-life because you hate women. They think that you define marriage in the

00:38:27.480 way that everyone has always defined marriage more or less because you hate homosexuals. They

00:38:32.920 just don't get it, right? They think that you voted for Trump because you might seem like a polite

00:38:39.080 person on the outside but secretly you're this bigoted monster or whatever. They just don't understand

00:38:43.940 and so it gives you a real competitive advantage in all of that in terms of discovering the truth for

00:38:48.880 yourself and arguing your points. From Fleur, what a great name. Dear Michael, you said you believed

00:38:54.340 work is intrinsic to human nature. I am inclined to agree with you and the biblical account of this

00:39:00.460 is found in Genesis that you put forth. However, the ancient Greeks proposed that man's purpose was

00:39:05.060 leisure. Their word for leisure was skull. Am I pronouncing that correctly? Hope so. Which gives us

00:39:11.160 words like school and scholar. They believed that by learning they would fulfill their concept of leisure

00:39:16.780 and ultimately reach perfect happiness. Eudaimonia. What are your thoughts on this? Pax et bonum.

00:39:23.500 Yeah, there's quite a lot to be gained from this. I mean, I don't think that those two things are

00:39:27.680 incompatible. I'm not saying that the entire purpose or even the primary purpose of life is for us to

00:39:33.240 grind ourselves into the dust and make a bunch of widgets. I don't think that at all. I think we are made to

00:39:38.920 work. Part of what we are here to do is to work. That is a part of our human nature. But of course, there are

00:39:45.060 higher things as well. One thing to be careful of here, though, is that the Greek, the ancient Greek

00:39:50.460 conception of leisure is not the way that we think of leisure today. When we think of leisure, we think

00:39:55.140 of just kind of vegging out on the couch and watching Tiger King. That is certainly not what

00:39:59.340 Aristotle was thinking of. That idea of leisure is not like downtime. That idea of leisure is using

00:40:05.700 your mind for the higher pursuits that are good in and of themselves. And of course, that's true. I mean,

00:40:10.860 I think, and I break with a lot of people on the right these days when I say this, but this is why

00:40:17.200 liberal arts education is so important to not just conservatives, but to anybody who wants to be a

00:40:23.960 free person. Because the liberal arts are the arts that allow us to make sense of our freedom and to

00:40:30.220 earn our freedom. And the idea is, contrary to the liberal narrative, what happens in reality is you

00:40:37.320 are not born a free individual in a state of nature and, you know, then society shackles you. It's

00:40:42.880 actually the opposite. You're born a slave. You are born a slave to your passions, a slave to your

00:40:48.400 appetites and desires. And you have to steadily discipline yourself to earn and make sense of

00:40:55.180 your freedom so that when you're older, you can be a free man. And certainly the leisure, the skull,

00:41:00.920 the scholarship, all the stuff that the ancient Greeks are talking about, that is the way to do that.

00:41:05.900 So I think those two go hand in hand. And, and also the idea of making sense of our freedom is

00:41:10.500 not that it's just some disconnected, abstract idea that we can think about merely from our ivory

00:41:15.320 towers, but it's something that we actually have to put into practice and the habits every day and

00:41:19.240 the way that we live our lives here with this body on this earth day by day. From Christina,

00:41:25.600 my husband is still working and we really don't need our stimulus check. Should I return it to the

00:41:30.020 government or give it to folks who really need it? Yeah, you should give it to folks who really need it.

00:41:33.520 You should certainly not give it to the government. They will squander it. They won't notice it.

00:41:38.600 It won't, it won't do any good. They will waste it. You will use your money better than the federal

00:41:43.940 government when it comes to your stimulus check. I promise you. So you want to give it to charity or,

00:41:49.080 or maybe even better, just give it to a friend or, or somebody you know of, a friend of a friend

00:41:53.780 who, who could use it. That'd be a great use of your check. From Patrick,

00:41:58.100 Dear Mr. Future Successor to Kim Jong-un, I've listened to every episode of yours since day one

00:42:04.760 and finally jumped aboard the USS Daily Wire. Shout out promo code Knowles. Oh, thank you very much.

00:42:09.980 That's very kind. My question is, why is there such a divide in opinion between the Twitter world and

00:42:16.120 the real world? Over the past year, you would have thought Beto, Kamala, and Warren were all shoo-ins

00:42:20.540 for the nomination at various times if you only looked at Twitter. However, their support in public

00:42:24.760 polling was never really significant at all. Came from Ben, paid for Michael. Yeah, this is something

00:42:28.980 that even many conservatives forget and certainly people who are on Twitter all the time. Twitter is

00:42:34.280 not the real world. Okay. My grandmother barely knows what Twitter is. She does, she actually does

00:42:41.360 know because, because of Trump, but you know, my grandmother doesn't log onto Twitter and tweet all

00:42:45.740 day. Most people are not on Twitter. The, the reason that Twitter matters is because all the journos are on

00:42:53.700 Twitter. So all of the people who write the whole mainstream media and the whole popular culture in

00:42:58.740 Hollywood, they're all on Twitter. So it has this outsized influence or it, it appears to have this

00:43:03.980 outsized influence. I think of it like the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. When Jon Stewart came on the

00:43:07.900 air with the Daily Show, you know, now decades ago, it was considered the most important, biggest show in

00:43:13.960 the country. Everyone talked about the influence Jon Stewart was having, but very few people actually

00:43:18.160 watched the show. The thing is all of the journalists who are writing the news stories

00:43:23.000 watched the quote unquote news stories, watched the show. And so that became the narrative. That's

00:43:27.920 what's going on with Twitter. But yeah, if you're basing your vision of the world on Twitter, that is

00:43:32.080 not going to be a good vision because the people who are on it disproportionately are living in a world

00:43:38.440 of ideology that has been abstracted from and is separate from reality. And so very often they're the

00:43:45.020 least reliable people to tell you what's really going on. From Austin, dear Mr. Knowles, I'm part

00:43:49.720 of a, of the came for Ben, stayed for Knowles crew. I'm in a serious relationship and we're planning on

00:43:54.140 getting married. I had a conversation with her about Catholicism and she was somewhat antagonistic

00:43:57.860 toward the idea of following the institution. She is a Christian, but had had bad experience with

00:44:02.760 Catholicism specifically as a child herself. She argued we be Christians, meaning Protestant, and raise a

00:44:10.560 family following Christ, but outside the Catholic church. I did not have a good response as I'm still

00:44:15.000 coming back into the faith. I am wanting to become closer to my faith as a Catholic, but I'm not

00:44:19.680 sure if this is something I should be overly concerned about with regards to her. We align on

00:44:23.640 all the other issues. Any advice you could offer would be appreciated. Thank you. Yes, this is a tough

00:44:28.760 answer, but you asked a tough question. You cannot do that. You cannot be a Catholic and then

00:44:33.960 not be a Catholic. You know, you, I mean, it, this is sometimes hard for Protestants to understand

00:44:41.160 because the idea of Protestantism is it's, you know, it's a little bit looser when it comes to

00:44:46.760 these institutional rigid requirements. The idea that you could start in one denomination,

00:44:51.440 move to another denomination, shop for a church, go to a different church. You can't do that with

00:44:55.600 Catholicism. The, the, the, the big differentiating factor here is the sacraments, right? The Catholic

00:45:01.140 church claims apostolic succession, traces it back to Peter, administers the sacraments,

00:45:06.040 which it believes are really and truly the coming together of heaven and earth, most precisely in,

00:45:11.060 in the Eucharist, right? Which is a different understanding of what the Eucharist is than what

00:45:15.200 Protestants believe, broadly speaking, that it is a symbol of Christ and Catholics believe it is

00:45:21.880 literally the body and blood of Christ. And so you cannot absent yourself from that. You cannot

00:45:26.740 ex excommunicate yourself from the, that sacrament. Uh, also it just as a practical matter,

00:45:32.880 if you try to get married, it is not permitted for Catholics to not be married in the Catholic

00:45:38.040 church. And if you do try to get married in the Catholic church to a Protestant, which is totally

00:45:43.000 possible, it's very easy to, to get a bishop to sign off on that. You have to promise to raise the

00:45:47.700 kids Catholic and you probably don't want to start off your marriage with a lie if that's not going to

00:45:52.180 be what you do. So I don't, I don't think you should be harsh about this or mean about this or say,

00:45:56.740 but you do need to explain it to your fiance because a lot of people just don't know about

00:46:02.820 it. A lot of Catholics don't even know about it. So that's important. One bit here though,

00:46:07.280 that might help you is regardless of the, the Protestant denomination that your fiance is a member

00:46:13.220 of, it tends to be among conservatives here that Protestant, Catholic, everyone alike will say that

00:46:19.220 the man should have a sort of leadership role in the household, certainly spiritually. And so that

00:46:24.320 might be one way to say, listen, if we, if we're really going to be conservative and traditional and

00:46:28.600 biblical here, then maybe we should go with my version of Christianity, uh, rather than your

00:46:33.760 version. It might get you slapped in the face if you make that argument too. But it is a, that's the

00:46:39.180 Genesis three argument for, for this sort of thing. Really what you should do is obviously talk this

00:46:46.020 out. Faith is a very important thing. It doesn't sound like you're totally far apart here, but that is

00:46:52.100 a sticking point. And I think even if you don't come to an agreement on it, which would be a sad

00:46:57.540 conclusion, even if you don't, you should at least explain what that sticking point is and why it

00:47:02.960 matters. From Joshua, do you think another round of payments directly to Americans are warranted at

00:47:07.740 this point? Speaking as someone who had a salary reduction and would receive a check, I still think

00:47:12.240 it's a mistake in the long run with our debt. Yeah, it is a mistake. We shouldn't get people

00:47:15.780 accustomed to universal basic income. That was a little bandaid during the peak of this

00:47:21.680 insane, unprecedented event. Uh, but that's not a solution. It's not a solution for just the

00:47:27.040 government to print more money and give it to people and pretend that that's going to solve

00:47:30.520 these problems. It is not. We need to reopen the country. From John, last question. Mr. Knowles,

00:47:37.460 is there a defensible reason to explain the disparity of news coverage between the accusers of Kavanaugh

00:47:43.140 and Biden? Assuming there is none, how can this be used to expose the charade of the left to the whole

00:47:47.580 world if we don't have mainstream media on the side of truth? Thanks. Wow. That was a

00:47:51.480 providential final question because the reason is that all news is fake news. Some of it is true,

00:47:58.480 but all of it is fake. So when it serves the left's interest to say something true, they will. And we,

00:48:04.020 and conservatives get really excited about that, but it doesn't change the underlying fact of what

00:48:07.800 the news media, the mainstream news media are in the United States, which is fake news. And is there

00:48:14.060 something to help us get back to the side of truth? Yeah. Be aware of that fact and, you know,

00:48:18.740 check your sources and read other stuff. All right. That's our show. And watch this show, by the way.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 30, 2020

Ep. 538 - All News Is Fake

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