Ep. 540 - Court Jester Conservatism
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In an interview conducted in front of the Lincoln Memorial, President Trump says he s the most persecuted president in history, including Honest Abe. While everyone on the left and right mock the wild claim, few are picking up on the keen piece of political wisdom in Trump s statement.
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In an interview conducted in front of the Lincoln Memorial, President Trump claims he's the most persecuted president in history, including Honest Abe.
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While everyone on the left and the right mock the wild claim, few are picking up on the keen piece of political wisdom in Trump's statement.
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Then, Michigan dictatrix Gretchen Whitmer calls her conservative constituents Nazis,
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the New York Times wins a Pulitzer for rewriting American history, and the federal government predicts more deaths from coronavirus.
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All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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So which is it? Who is more persecuted? President Trump or Abraham Lincoln?
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I know a lot of factors to weigh here. You know, half the country seceding from the Union and getting shot.
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Not in a theater and also having to deal with Jim Acosta.
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Those are two key signs of persecution at the very least, more than two.
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So please let us know in the comments section below.
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It actually shows us a key political truth, something that lies at the heart of a lot of the conservative debates today,
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So, in this interview conducted before the Lincoln Memorial, giant Abraham Lincoln looking down on President Trump.
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He's there speaking with Martha McCallum and Brett Baer.
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They're taking some questions from people around the country.
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And one woman who says she's a Trump supporter asks Trump a question about his style.
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And the style point here is, why is Trump so mean?
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Why does he brawl with people who are critics of his and who are the mainstream media, but I repeat myself.
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And Trump's answer is very indicative of a major divide on the right.
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Why do you use descriptive words that could be classified as bullying?
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And why do you not directly answer the questions asked by the press, but instead speak of past successes and generally ramble?
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Please let go of those behaviors that are turning people away from you.
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Please hold on to your wonderful attributes that make you our great leader and let go of other characteristics that do not serve you.
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I'm not sure, but I think I like that question.
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His response is disproving a little bit of the point that this woman is trying to make.
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Because the woman's saying, why are you so mean?
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Surely Trump is a jerk sometimes, but he's not a jerk all the time.
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And his response, at least initially, is actually to charm her, right?
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So we're seeing there are different sides to the guy's personality.
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He does correct reporters and get testy with reporters.
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I am greeted with a hostile press, the likes of which no president has ever seen.
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The closest would be that gentleman right up there.
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They come at me with questions that are disgraceful.
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To be honest, disgraceful, their manner of presentation and their words.
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And I feel that if I was kind to them, I'd be I'd be walked off the stage.
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I mean, they come at you with the most horrible, horrendous, biased questions.
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Ninety four and ninety five percent of the press is hostile.
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And yet, if you look in Florida today, we had hundreds and hundreds of boats going up
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But the media is they might as well be in the Democrat Party.
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You knew that President Trump could not do an interview sitting in front of this giant
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Abraham Lincoln without comparing himself to Lincoln.
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And so that's the line that everybody's talking about.
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And that's the reason that the whole clip is going viral.
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And it's very good that that clip is going viral because it shows a key defense of the
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And it gives us a little bit of advice moving forward.
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Trump does not have the advantage of being nice.
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But he doesn't have the advantage of being nice.
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Republicans and conservatives who actually want to accomplish something in politics do not
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Some Republicans and conservatives don't want to win.
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I'm not saying this as some kind of personal attack on them.
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I'm not, I don't think I'm being hyperbolic here.
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I think it's pretty clear that some Republicans and conservatives feel much more comfortable losing
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Then you're going to be held accountable for what you've done.
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If you lose gracefully, then you get to preserve your purity.
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Then the New York Times will write nice things about you once you've lost.
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I mean, I think of people like John McCain, for instance, in politics.
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The guy, like you couldn't possibly show more clearly how you're not trying to win.
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John McCain wanted the New York Times to like him.
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John McCain campaigned on repealing Obamacare for years and years and years and years and
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He, he, he, and he's just one example among many.
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There are other Republicans too, who would much rather play by the rules of liberalism.
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I call this kind of conservatism court jester conservatism.
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They would rather be the court jester in the kingdom of liberalism than actually strike
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out on their own and change the political realities around us.
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You know, they would rather be different versions of this kind of, kind of conservative.
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They would rather be Archie Bunker or Ron Swanson.
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This kind of neat little liberal caricature of a conservative fit into a nice little box
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You know, somewhat likable maybe, but ultimately a joke.
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We, we see this now with the Justin Amash campaign for president.
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There's Justin Amash is that libertarian congressman who's running for president now against Donald
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As of now, his political career is completely dead.
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He is just a sort of media phenomenon and a, using phenomenon is stretching that word to
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a ridiculous extent, but he's playing a role within the liberal framework, right?
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He's playing by the left's premises and filling a role left for conservatives by the left.
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The Parks and Rec character, he's this kind of curmudgeonly conservative and he can't really
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accomplish anything, but you know, he can be sort of frustrated and curmudgeonly.
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It's the same thing with any conservative character that has ever been on television,
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which is they make him kind of curmudgeonly and, but ultimately you like him, but you like
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There are a lot of conservatives who want to play that role, who want to be the curmudgeonly
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but ineffectual right-winger who, you know, he resists the waves of progress with a capital
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P, but, uh, you know, ultimately he, he can't really succeed.
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When you want to win, you've got to be everything.
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When you want to win, you've got to be the visionary, the speaker, the organizer, the
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policy wonk, the newsman, the entertainer, the critic, and the historian.
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And it's funny because when you're the entertainer, in a way you've got to be
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kind of a court jester or you've, you've at least got to engage people on this, this level
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of entertainment, but you're playing by a different set of rules here.
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Donald Trump in the same answer has to be mean and serious and tough to Jim Acosta, but really
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And he's also got to be the historian because the left always rewrites history.
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So he's got to remind everybody of his own accomplishments and we'll see how the left
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rewrites history in just a moment with the New York times.
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He's also got to be the newsman because the news can't be expected to report what he's doing
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And so he's got to correct the record on the news.
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He's got to put out his own counter news narrative.
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You got to do all of these things if you want to accomplish anything because the entire edifice
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Probably the greatest example of this in the last hundred years is Winston Churchill, right?
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Winston Churchill, Trump compares himself to Abraham Lincoln.
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Now I'll try to make a comparison to Winston Churchill.
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Churchill did this the best, better than anybody.
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He wrote the history of the English speaking people, the history of the Second World War.
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He's probably known more for his one liners, for his wit than he is for his military strategy.
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He was actually a journalist himself during wars.
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The liberals, the left, don't have to be all of that because they've got the mainstream media
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Joe Biden said just yesterday or the day before that the Biden campaign is relying on the media
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to deal with this Tara Reade investigation because he's not going to be able to do that.
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They've got the historians, I guess, are at the university and they're at Hollywood.
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And for conservatives who don't care about winning, for conservatives who just want to
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go along to get along and play a role but not change anything in politics, they don't
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They've just got to fill their own little silo.
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But if you want to change things in politics, you've got to do a lot more.
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And sometimes that means being mean to Jim Acosta and that's just too bad.
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We talked yesterday on the show about how this is not neutral playing ground.
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You know, sometimes conservatives, like during the Tea Party era, for instance, they love to
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But that flag kind of plays into that liberal premise a little bit, I think, in modern times.
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I'm not really going to engage in trying to change politics.
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But the flag that I prefer is one of the original American flags.
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It's a knight's arm, coat of arms, and it's holding a sword.
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To quote Cocaine Mitch McConnell, the winners go and make laws and the losers go home.
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There's no, if you lose gracefully, you'll get a nice write-up in the New York Times, maybe,
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Progressivism, as we talked about yesterday, is out to destroy everything you cherish.
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Listen to the way that Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan talks about her conservative constituents.
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Some conservative constituents came out the other day.
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They were protesting these draconian and arbitrary lockdown orders.
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Regular good old American patriots waving the American flag.
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Whitmer, I guess she was looking at a different scene at the Capitol than we all were.
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All she could see were Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.
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Displays like the one that we saw at our Capitol is not representative of who we are in Michigan.
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There were swastikas and Confederate flags and nooses and people with assault rifles.
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And that's the very, you know, that's a small group of people.
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When you think about the fact that this is a state of almost 10 million people,
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the vast majority of whom are doing the right thing.
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And that's why we've seen our curve get pushed down.
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We've saved lives in the process and we have to keep listening to the epidemiologists and
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experts and not listen to the partisan rhetoric or these political rallies or tweets for that matter.
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We have to keep doing the right thing, the next right thing.
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And we've got to tone down the partisan rhetoric.
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I don't think she's a doctor or an epidemiologist.
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I mean, it's cartoonishly absurd language that she's using.
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First of all, we don't need to only listen to the epidemiologists.
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We don't just export all of our politics and outsource them to the exalted Dr. Fauci.
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I don't remember reading that in the constitution.
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And it's only the demagogues right now who are saying get politics out of this.
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It's only the political demagogues who are telling people to get politics out of this.
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She says that there were all these Nazis and Ku Klux Klan at the rally.
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I mean, I didn't go to the protest in Michigan, but I saw a lot of videos from it.
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And I got to tell you, I didn't see any swastikas.
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Let me tell you, if you've, if you've seen any going around on the internet, if you can
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listen to the chants here, do you hear any, any people shouting in German?
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So let's give a big round of applause for Ryan.
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I see the one, actually the one Nazi symbol that I see is somebody depicting Gretchen
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Maybe that's what she saw and she got confused.
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Is, but if you're, if you've got a sign, uh, portraying your political opponent as Hitler
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or Mussolini or whoever, whatever evil guy you want to talk about, then you're not a pro
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I see some Gadsden flags, the flag we were just talking about.
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I see a lot of American patriots who just don't want to have their rights trampled by an arbitrary
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And yet she calls all these people Nazis and racists.
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Imagine if you had a right-wing rally or rather you had a right-wing governor and a left-wing
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rally outside and the governor was asked, what do you think about the protests?
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You know, and, and at the, let's say it was a left-wing protest.
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It had, you know, the gay pride flag and it had, uh, I don't know, uh, some, like some
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environmentalist flag and it's just kind of typical symbols.
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You know, the right has the American flags and then the left has all these kinds of special
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And let's say that the Republican governor came out and said, oh, all those people.
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They're a bunch of disgusting, despicable, deplorable, irredeemable, irredeemable, evil, awful people
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I, the media obviously wouldn't tolerate that kind of rhetoric, but that's the place we're
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The conservatives generally try to play nice and the left is playing for keeps.
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They're doing this not just by rewriting the present.
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They're not just propagandizing in the present.
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Progressives are also rewriting the past, not just the details, not just some characters
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New York Times just won a Pulitzer Prize, and the Pulitzer Prize came for its reporting
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The 1619 Project traces American history back to the arrival of the first African slave in
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Now, even the history of how slavery developed in the American colonies is a complex one.
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It's not actually purely a racial thing, as the New York Times would have you believe.
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But that's not, look, we're not even getting into the details here.
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We're just talking about the fundamental premise.
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The piece that won them the Pulitzers by Nicole Hannah-Jones.
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Our Democracy's Founding Ideals Were False When They Were Written.
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And ironically, or perhaps not, the piece that they won their Pulitzer for is fundamentally
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My dad always flew an American flag in our front yard.
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When I was young, that flag outside our home never made sense to me.
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How could this black man, having seen firsthand the way his country abused black Americans,
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how it refused to treat them as full citizens, proudly fly its banner?
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So at least she's admitting off the top that she hates her country, right?
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Conveniently left out of our founding mythology is the fact that one of the primary reasons the
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colonists decided to declare their independence from Britain was because they wanted to protect
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There were many academic historians who wrote into the New York Times to say that that was
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For instance, in the Declaration of Independence, one of the chief complaints against the British,
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one of the reasons for which they were declaring independence is because they blamed the British
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for foisting slavery on them, slavery which they detested.
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And then, of course, later on when they write the Constitution, the issue of slavery is a big
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controversy because there were many people who were drafting that Constitution who wanted
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There were many people who did not want slavery to give a reward to the South as a matter of
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And so they had to arrive at a compromise and they had to sunset the importation of slaves,
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which they did in the Constitution, and then ultimately the inevitable civil war came to end
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Oh, there's also another false claim in here, which is pretty funny.
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Anyway, the woman who wrote it doesn't even know when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
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So initially she wrote that it was signed on July 4th, but actually the signing began a couple
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weeks later on August 2nd, or more than a couple weeks later on August 2nd.
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So already you've got the Pulitzer Prize winning essay that has multiple corrections, right?
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A correction, an editor's note, and yet the Pulitzer Committee still gave it to them.
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Including supporters of the 1619 Project, you had lots of academic historians say that this was trash.
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Northwestern University professor Leslie Harris writes of this.
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On August 19th of last year, I listened in stunned silence as Nicole Hannah-Jones,
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a reporter for the New York Times, repeated an idea that I had vigorously argued against
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with her fact checker, that the patriots fought the American Revolution in large part
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I vigorously disputed the claim, although slavery was certainly an issue in the American Revolution,
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the protection of slavery was not one of the main reasons the 13 colonies went to war.
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So this historian and many other historians spoke to the Times about this, said,
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guys, we support the project, we support making slavery a big focus when you're writing the history
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of America, but just as a matter of history, this is not factually correct.
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And they ignored her, which is a pattern for the New York Times.
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You know, in 2018, the New York Times shared a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on Russiagate,
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which, as you might recall, is a complete hoax.
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A complete hoax perpetrated by the left and the media, but I repeat myself,
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and which is one of the reasons that President Trump can't be so nice with everybody all the time,
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is because you've got the entire apparatus of modern liberalism trying to completely destroy this man.
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Now they're trying to destroy American history as well.
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And it's not just happening in the pages of the New York Times.
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If it were, it wouldn't matter because very few people read the New York Times.
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But the 1619 Project is now being taught in schools.
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This anti-historical trash is being taught in schools as though it were history.
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Over the disputations of academic historians who support the New York Times, who support the project,
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but even they are honest enough, doesn't matter.
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And as we were discussing yesterday on the show,
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with regard to Phyllis Schlafly and the rewriting of history on the Equal Rights Amendment,
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this is the kind of stuff that's going to be remembered.
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And the real history increasingly is going to be forgotten.
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That's why they're rewriting it in the first place.
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It's not just these kind of broad questions of who was more persecuted, Trump or Lincoln,
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It's not just rewriting the American Revolution.
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So we're not just rewriting the Trump presidential politics.
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We're also rewriting this pandemic in real time.
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So some bad news came from President Trump just a couple days ago, which is a revision up of the projected mortality.
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You remember initially it was 2 million, there was half a million, there was 200,000, there was 100,000.
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Then Dr. Fauci and President Trump said it would be about 60,000, possibly lower.
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Now President Trump is revising those numbers up a little bit again.
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I do look back on it because my attitude was we're not going to shut it down.
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Look, we're going to lose anywhere from 75, 80 to 100,000 people.
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Okay, 80, hold on, 80,000, that's higher than 60,000.
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Now the media going berserk at President Trump.
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So President Trump is getting hammered because he took the estimate from 60, which is based
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on the IHME model, goes from 60 up to 80, say, you know, numbers Fauci gave us.
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He's getting hammered for that, but the left doesn't get hammered for bringing the numbers
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down from 2.2 million to 80,000 or whatever it is now.
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Now, President Trump fell into bad political positioning here because it always looks bad
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to revise the numbers up and it always looks good to revise the numbers down.
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And the media had every incentive, the left, the Democratic governors had every incentive
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to scare the bejesus out of people and get everything locked down, right?
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It makes them look like they're decisive leaders.
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They then discouraged employment through that stimulus bill.
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That was a key Democratic provision to keep the economy down.
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Because it's an election year and obviously that will help their side and hurt President
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They've even admitted this, you know, left-wing media figure Bill Maher came out and said
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he'd rather have a recession than get Trump reelected.
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So they haven't exactly been subtle about this.
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That is what they're cheering for and that's what we're getting.
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And in President Trump's defense, they keep moving the goalposts on what this virus is,
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on what qualifies as a death, on how it compares to other plagues.
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But they don't get any attacks for getting the numbers so wrong in the first place.
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2.2 million people in the U.S. could die if coronavirus goes unchecked.
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They could have said 2.2 billion people in the U.S.
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You know, many, many, many times the U.S. population wouldn't have mattered.
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They wouldn't, they wouldn't get called out for it.
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You know those guys, those experts in American history.
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Nicholas Kristof column, the best case outcome for the coronavirus and the worst.
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Will we endure 2.2 million deaths or will we manage to turn things around?
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Dr. Neil M. Ferguson, a British epidemiologist who is regarded as one of the best disease
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modelers in the world, produced a sophisticated model with a worst case of 2.2 million deaths
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I asked Ferguson for his best case, about 1.1 million deaths.
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He said, when that's a best case scenario, it's difficult to feel optimistic.
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So you have these hysterical, alarmist numbers, 1.1 million at best, 2.2 million at worst.
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Will certainly lead to many deaths, ruined many lives.
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I think it's upwards of 40% of small businesses might go out of business within six months.
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But President Trump touts a number from Dr. Fauci, 60,000.
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Another place we've seen this is with flu deaths, right?
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And early on, when we were looking at this virus, people said, okay, well, how does this
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And we said, okay, well, you know, upwards of 50, 60, 70,000 people can die from a bad flu
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So if the projections we're getting for deaths from coronavirus are 50, 60,000, 70,000, then
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And then the left told us, no, you can't compare it to the flu because that would counter the
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So this has gone on for about five, six weeks now.
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And the left has had it with the flu comparison.
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So now they're touting a Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust, emergency medical physician and instructor
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at Harvard Medical School, who published a blog post on Scientific American saying that
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actually the numbers we have for the flu deaths are not really the numbers for the flu deaths.
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So the preliminary estimate for flu deaths in the 2017, 2018 season is around 61,000.
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So certainly within the ballpark of coronavirus.
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But the total number of confirmed flu deaths is actually much lower, he says.
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We've been relying on the numbers that the scientific community has been giving us, which is 60,
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Now all of a sudden we're being told, no, actually 60,000 is 15,000.
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So the number you've got to compare coronavirus to is 15,000.
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If we're told we have to listen to the experts, then the experts have to give us reliable information.
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So if the experts are going to keep moving the goalposts, then we can't rely on them at all.
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Then it seems more and more to many Americans who are clamoring to reopen, like this is a rigged game.
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I mean, even on this case, the flu deaths, no cost to lowering the estimates.
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And yet there is a great political cost to increasing the estimates.
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The new numbers here do not tell us anything, right?
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The new numbers on not just the flu, but on coronavirus, ticking it up from 60,000 to 80,000, doesn't tell us anything.
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I wish that it could change our behavior, but it doesn't.
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It's just a one-way political attack on Trump, and it can never be used in the other direction.
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Well, because the only policy that they've come up with is the lockdowns, right?
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Social distancing, wear the mask everywhere, shut down the businesses.
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The only two things that the lockdowns can possibly accomplish are flatten the curve and prevent the hospital system from being overwhelmed,
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and flatten the curve and buy us time until we get a vaccine.
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We know that the hospital systems have not been overwhelmed, certainly not here in California, not even in New York.
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That hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, very empty.
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We know that we're not going to get a virus anytime soon as this disease, this virus,
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or we're not going to get a vaccine, rather, anytime soon as this virus spreads throughout the population.
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It doesn't tell us anything about our own behavior, just kind of some sad news,
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The key element to this pandemic is hypocrisy, okay?
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Any miscalculation by the right is evidence that the right got it totally wrong.
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Any miscalculation by the left, whoopsie-daisy, never mind, throw it down the memory hole.
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Andy Cuomo, governor of New York, being hailed as the great leader in the coronavirus.
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What a strong, articulate, wonderful, prepared leader.
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Only in the Democratic Party could you be the head of the worst prepared state,
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and have that taken as an example of some great success.
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Here's just one little policy to show it to you.
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On Thursday, Andy Cuomo announced that they're going to start cleaning the subways.
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You know, the subways in New York are absolutely filthy.
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And so now they're going to, for a couple hours a night,
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they're going to start deep cleaning the subways.
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And this is important because they've reduced the number of trains,
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so already you're cramming more people onto the subways.
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Already the subways are moving homeless shelters and have been for many years.
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now they're going to start cleaning the subways?
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Cuomo says any essential worker who shows up and gets on a train
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should know that that train was disinfected the night before
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because a lot of transit workers are getting sick
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Another aspect of the hypocrisy on this whole pandemic,
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You know, the left has told us for 50, 60 years now,
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You have no right to tell me what to do with my body.
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This is the argument they use to defend abortion.
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Now, some conservatives are saying with regard to our imprisonment in our apartments
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and the lockdown and the arbitrary exercise of power,
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we say, wait a second, what about my body, my choice?
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I'm going to go to the beach because it's my body, my choice.
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But of course, that plays to the very same point that the conservatives are making
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when it comes to abortion, where we say, right, it's not just your body either.
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It's the body inside of you that you're killing.
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And by the way, it's not hypocritical for the right to use,
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first of all, we're using this argument a little tongue in cheek
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But they're actually separate questions of imperiling other people's lives.
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you are calculating certain amounts of risk, right?
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So you're not just walking up to people and coughing right in their face
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you're staying mostly away from people, you're washing your hands.
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And there is some risk, obviously, that diseases could spread.
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There is always a risk that diseases could spread,
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as happens every single day, even in normal times.
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you are not calculating a risk of someone dying of a natural death.
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You're permitting the targeted killing of an innocent person.
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All of those distinctions are lost on the left,
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The reason for this is that the left is not playing by some nice set of rules,
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the right needs to play by the Marquess of Queensbury rules
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A key political truth that we are being reminded of,
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we're about to fundamentally transform this country.
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is because you don't want to fundamentally transform
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for saying they're going to fundamentally transform America.