Ep. 550 - The Democrats’ Faucian Bargain
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Just when you think the experts who made us all lock down and destroy the entire economy couldn t get more wrong, it turns out they were even more wrong. We'll get to that in a minute, but first, I want to thank all of our sponsors for helping us stay on the air.
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The case for coronavirus hysteria collapses even further as the CDC changes its guidelines
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and admits that the virus does not spread easily, if at all, through contaminated surfaces.
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In other words, the masks and gloves are basically useless.
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Republican Governor Ron DeSantis takes a victory lap,
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and MSNBC's Mika Scarborough has an on-air meltdown.
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Then, leaked audio services of Joe Biden discussing with former Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko
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the decision to fire the prosecutor looking into Joe's son in exchange for a billion-dollar loan guarantee.
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And that's just the beginning of Joe's troubles.
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I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Just when you think the experts who made us all lock down and destroyed the entire economy,
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So, I thought that we had debunked all that was going to be debunked about coronavirus.
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You know the 2.4 million Americans are going to die,
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and the LA is going to look like Italy in two weeks.
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Right, we all thought that, I thought that was, that was all we were going to debunk.
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Coronavirus mainly spreads through person-to-person contact,
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and quote, does not spread easily on contaminated surfaces.
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Do you know, because some places, some headlines,
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they're trying to make it sound really clinical and really scientific,
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It means that the masks, pretty much pointless.
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The gloves that people are wearing, pretty much pointless.
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We were right the whole time the skeptics were right.
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The scientific experts in the lab coats who told us all to hop on one leg
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and put a top hat on while singing the national anthem,
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and if we don't do that, we're going to spread coronavirus.
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The experts who told us to do all of these things, they were wrong, okay?
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It's not like this is some right-wing news source.
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public health officials said the virus could be transmitted through infected
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respiratory droplets and by touching infected surfaces
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and then touching your nose, mouth, and possibly your eyes.
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If you touch your face, you're going to die of coronavirus.
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wearing gloves, and ramping up hand hygiene to protect themselves.
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While touching infected surfaces has always been part of the messaging
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the virus does not spread easily in other ways.
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So back in early March, CDC said it may be possible
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Don't go around kissing strangers on the street, perhaps.
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the masks and the gloves aren't really going to help.
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So I think, I've kind of lost track of the tally,
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and then the politicians used the experts to tell us
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was one of the people who had a reasonable, cautious,
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DeSantis was speaking with the vice president, Mike Pence,
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is just typical partisan narrative trying to be spun.
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because you've got a lot of people in your profession
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about how Florida was going to be just like New York.
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we have a lower death rate than the Acela Corridor,
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But even in our region, Louisiana, Mississippi,
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Alabama, Georgia, Florida has the lower death rate.
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And I think that people just don't want to recognize it
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and the fear-mongering media deserve all of this.
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a Faucian bargain is where you make a deal with the devil,
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except that the devil is a petite man from Brooklyn.
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And I'm not, I'm not calling Dr. Fauci the devil,
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is when you sell your soul for limitless knowledge and power.
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And a Faucian bargain is when you sell your credibility,
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for limitless knowledge and limitless power over the citizens.
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This is, this is the trouble with deals with the devil.
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As you get to the end of the deal with the devil
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and you realize, oh no, I've made a terrible mistake.
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I don't actually have all the things that I wanted.
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if we exploit this public concern over this virus
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if we make people wear all sorts of crazy things
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and lock down the economy and stay home from work
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and 40 million people are gonna lose their jobs
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and actually more people very likely are gonna die
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We're gonna get all those policies that we want.
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Oh, the things we've wanted for a hundred years.
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then when those predictions turn out not to be true,
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and Ron DeSantis smacks you down on national television,
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It never works out the way that these guys want it to.
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Brian Kemp is going to have blood on his hands.
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certainly one of the first and the deaths haven't spiked.
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I believe I remember when we were talking to you prior to the quote unquote
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there's a robust conversation going on about the quality of the numbers.
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But I think I remember you saying that you hoped to be wrong,
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that you hoped the situation would be better than you feared.
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is it a little muddier than being able to say I was right or are I was
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as of the time of this conversation somewhere in the middle,
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How long does it take you to just ask the question?
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You said that you would say that you were wrong and it looks like you were
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there's a robust conversation about the numbers.
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The robust conversation is people think in many places,
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but he wants to insinuate that numbers are being underreported.
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there are a lot of factors at play here and I never would want you to say
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it's too complicated because it's in the middle and we can't,
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if you just want to carry water for these hack politicians,
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And even as much as you're trying to help this mayor,
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she still can't get out of it cause she was dead wrong.
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Brian is it's not as bad as I thought that it would be.
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So if it's not as bad as you thought it would be,
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and what you said you would do is admit that you were wrong.
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I feel like I'm Ron DeSantis talking to that healthcare worker.
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I don't even care because people are realizing it day by day by day.
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And the longer that the left and the Democrats cling to this hysteria,
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and the more they double down on this premise on the Fauci and bargain that we don't,
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We actually just outsource it all to the lab coats.
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I couldn't even call them both authentically political.
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There are eternal questions that don't have precise scientific answers.
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And that's why we have self-government and we need to balance factors like making sure that we can protect public health while preserving our liberties and preserving the rule of law and not allowing the law enforcement to get too aggressive.
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And keeping the economy going because a down economy kills people just as much as a virus, actually more, right?
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So there are all these factors and we just have to debate what our priorities are.
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Then there's the kind of leftist shortcut that they tried to take,
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It's not like we have to debate these questions.
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We just know exactly what the scientific answer to politics is.
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And we're going to let some guy in a lab coat decide it all for us because conveniently right now he agrees with the things that we want.
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What happens when that guy's power falls apart?
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this mayor of Atlanta has probably got the most coherent response of,
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of any of these lefties to their narrative falling apart.
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Joe Scarborough's wife and co-host who didn't really have any argument.
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Other than throwing a temper tantrum at Donald Trump and saying that she was going to call Twitter to get his account kicked off.
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And your lack of ability to handle this massive human catastrophe,
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the fact that you've made it worse and that you make it worse every day and that you won't even wear a mask to protect people from your germs.
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you shouldn't be allowing this and you should be taking these tweets down and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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You'll be hearing from me on this because this is BS.
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Mika will not be changing her last name from Brzezinski to Scarborough,
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but she will be changing her first name to Karen.
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There's this meme that's going around about Karen,
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which is a sort of busy body lady who's telling everybody their business and,
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everything's a big fight and very involved in what everybody else is doing.
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I'm hearing from you now because you're speaking on television.
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I'm going to call your manager and I'm going to get Donald Trump kicked off
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Twitter because he's a meanie and I don't like him.
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Obviously they don't have any kind of argument to this.
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Not just Mika Brzezinski on all the way over in Washington,
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Now she's saying that he has excrement on his shoe.
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You're asking me about the appropriateness of the actions of this president of the United
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So completely inappropriate in so many ways that it's almost a given.
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It's like a child who comes in with mud on their pants or something.
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And everybody who works with him has that on their shoes, too, for a very long time to come.
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I hear doctors talk to me about saying, you know, what's the matter with him?
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The things he says are so inappropriate for a president of the United States.
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The things he says are so inappropriate for a president.
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They're so unbefitting a holder of high office.
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You see how it kind of sounds like you're doing the thing that you're accusing him of doing.
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Well, I don't listen to the things you say about men.
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I understand Donald Trump has made some mean comments, including about Karen Brzezinski.
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And then beyond that, beyond the stupid, like, you used a mean term and then I used a mean term.
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Remember Joe Biden, your candidate for president?
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He's being, I guess, somewhat credibly accused.
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Who knows if the allegations are credible or not?
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He's being accused by a former staffer of doing a very specific action.
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They always say there are 7 million women accusing Donald Trump of rape.
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Well, how come we haven't heard about any of them?
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Don't you think if any of those allegations were serious that the news would, would put
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Of course, because they're, they, none of them come even close to the allegation against
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What about, what are the, what about your side, Nancy?
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There is a lot of dirt though, in, in terms of moving past the coronavirus for a little
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There's a lot of serious news that is not being covered by Joe Biden because Joe Biden
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got caught in leaked audio talking about that crooked deal with the leader of Ukraine.
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The top line news story, the news story that everyone's talking about, which is this debate
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Forget for a moment, all the mud that Democrats are trying to sling on Trump.
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Let's just go down and remember that there's a presidential race going on.
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Joe Biden is the presumptive democratic nominee.
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He's being accused, not just of the sexual allegations, but of some pretty serious corruption
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involving his son and the Obama administration and Ukraine.
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Obviously no one's covering that now we've got leaked audio from Joe Biden speaking to
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then vice, vice, then Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko about this crooked deal where
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Joe Biden said, you've got to fire the prosecutor, Victor Shokin looking into my son, and I will
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give you a $1 billion loan guarantee from the United States.
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Congratulations on getting the new prosecutor general.
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I know there's a lot more that has to be done, but I really, I really think that's, I think
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And I understand you're working with the rod in the coming days on a number of additional
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So, but congratulations on installing the new prosecutor general.
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It's going to be critical for him to work quickly to repair the damage that Shokin did.
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I, and that now that the new prosecutor general's in place, we're ready to move forward in signing
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When I heard this for the first time, I thought it was fake.
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I assumed it was some Biden impersonator and some Ukrainian impersonator and they had, because
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Thanks for firing that guy that was looking into my son.
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And I thought, there's no way that any sitting politician would be this careless to speak
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this freely about something that's really stinks of corruption.
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And then I remembered, oh wait, it's Joe Biden.
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If anybody is going to talk about this freely and imprudently, it would be Joe Biden.
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Then later in the tape, Petro Poroshenko reiterates the very deal that Joe Biden mentioned.
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The second thing is that I want to thank you, that you give me your word, that immediately
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when we change the legislation and I appoint the new prosecutor general, and it would be
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Yuri Lutsenko, as we agreed on our previous meeting in Washington.
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And when it happens, we can have at least long guarantee.
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Why is Joe Biden so interested in this prosecutor general in Ukraine?
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What Joe Biden would say is, it's because the previous prosecutor general was corrupt.
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And so we didn't want to support Ukraine because there was generalized corruption.
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I mean, we're talking about these billion dollar loan guarantees during a war, wartime, right?
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Why do you care about generalized Ukrainian corruption?
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Also, if you're worried about the corruption, you're talking to the main guy, Petro Poroshenko.
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So the only corruption you got to be worried about is that guy, right?
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If you're worried that the money is going to be frittered away or something, the story
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Clearly Biden had a personal vendetta against this, this prosecutor general, Victor Shokin.
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And then Poroshenko reiterates, he says, yeah, what, you know, as you asked me to do when I
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was in Washington, we are going to ditch that guy and put in this other guy.
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A few places have, have affirmed that this is a real tape, but they're only talking about
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the story as though the story were the fact that it leaked.
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This thing has seemed extremely corrupt from the beginning.
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That's only the beginning of Joe Biden's troubles because nobody is taking Joe Biden seriously.
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A lot of people are talking about the vice presidential candidate as the person who really matters
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here because Joe seems like he's in a pretty steep decline.
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So there are a number of people vying for the vice presidential nod.
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But another person who is apparently being vetted for vice president is maybe the least popular
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governor governor in America during this coronavirus, Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan.
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Here's Gretchen Whitmer bragging about being vetted for vice president on NBC.
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You know, I've had a conversation with some folks, but the fact of the matter is all of my
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energy is going into helping my state through this crisis, unlike one that we've seen in
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a hundred years in this country, we have to get it right.
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And I was elected to be the governor of the state of Michigan.
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And that's where I'm spending a hundred percent of my energy and focus.
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This conversation that you had, how would you characterize the conversation?
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And it's not something that I would call a professional, you know, formalized vetting.
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And I am making a little bit of time to stay connected to the campaign.
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But, you know, the most important thing that I have to do right now is be the governor of
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And that's where I'm going to stay all my energy focused.
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All that matters to me in this moment is being the governor of my state.
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And that's why I'm going on national network television to talk about how maybe I'll be the
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I know I know that I've been talking about it a lot.
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Did I mention, by the way, that I might be the vice president?
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We had a chat, but really, I'm not interested in that.
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I don't know whether Whitmer is being vetted or not.
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I mean, in a way, I guess it makes sense because winning Michigan would really help the Democrats
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In a way, it makes sense because Joe Biden has pretty dumb political instincts these days,
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He's been very good at remaining a senator and in national life for 50 years, but he's never
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had any talent at really going up to the next level.
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And so this would be, this would be part and parcel of that.
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The other possibility here is that she's not being really seriously vetted at all by the
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Biden campaign, that maybe the Biden campaign is trying to keep her happy.
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But really, regardless, Gretchen Whitmer is talking about this on television as a shot across the bow at Stacey Abrams.
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Stacey Abrams has really changed the game here.
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Stacey Abrams is this failed gubernatorial candidate.
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Then she keeps pretending that she didn't lose.
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And now she's campaigning actively, openly for vice president.
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I mean, but the media are really enthusiastic about her for a number of reasons.
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And so now the other people have to campaign as well, including people like Gretchen Whitmer.
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So I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Biden campaign has never picked up the phone to talk to her.
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She wants to take this shot across the bow to say, hey, wait a second.
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This isn't just Stacey Abrams running for vice president.
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And she's not getting anywhere near the coverage that Stacey Abrams is.
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It's a profile of Stacey Abrams that is, I'm not joking.
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I think it's like, it's a, it's a novel length profile in The Washington Post of this failed
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And what, Stacey Abrams, all she's ever been is a state rep.
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And yet she's being talked of as one of the most important politicians in America.
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Just a few lines to give you the sense of this fiction.
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Just a few lines to give you a sense of this propaganda.
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The power of Stacey Abrams, despite losing the Georgia governor's race in 2018, she has
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Right, because you, you gave her political prominence.
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You've just given it to her because you wanted to pretend that she won the race anyway.
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Will she be the vice presidential pick for Democrats?
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So, or is she, I should ask you, watching a post, you're the ones who are going to pick
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First line, there is a big buzz at the Loudermilk Convention Center in downtown Atlanta at a
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When she, Stacey Abrams, is finally introduced, the women shout and leap to their feet.
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Young women stand on chairs, camera phones flash.
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Abrams, who appears both amused and slightly disturbed by the fuss over her.
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Yeah, there's one thing I know about Stacey Abrams.
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This woman who refuses to admit that she lost the race, goes on television all the time,
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Yeah, no, she's disturbed by the fuss over her.
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I've witnessed this level of affection for very few political leaders in the democratic
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Yeah, no, you've witnessed this level of affection for whichever one you guys are elevating in
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Sure, I guess you can only really elevate one at a time, but you pick it.
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Pandemonium ensues as she walks to the far left of the stage like a runway supermodel.
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You can't trick me into making a comment about that.
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She walks across the stage like a runway supermodel, stops on a dime, poses, tilts her head slightly,
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She next pivots and walks slowly to the center of the stage.
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Cameras haven't worked that way in a hundred years.
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The image that she's giving you is like at some old-timey press conference, and the guy
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is holding up the flash, and he's got the camera, and they click it, and the light bulb,
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Except in the imagination, the fevered imagination, of the partisan operatives who pretend to be
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journalists at places like the Washington Post.
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And it's something that Democrats do regularly.
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The trouble with that, it ties right back in to what we were talking about with the coronavirus,
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The trouble with that, with staking all of your credibility on this fantasy, rather than
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just like calling it like you see it, having a little bit of skepticism, looking at the
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facts, and interpreting them as accurately as you can.
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The trouble with just pushing this fantasy, as if by merely saying certain things, you
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This has been the left's pitch going all the way back to intellectuals like Karl Marx, right?
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If you just change the words, you will change the reality.
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If I call a boy a girl, then the boy really is a girl.
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If I say that the disease is, the virus is going to kill everybody, it's going to kill
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If I say that the virus spreads in a certain, then it really will.
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politician in the last 20 years in American history, then that really will be the case.
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From Kevin, hey Michael, I recently got into an argument with a leftist on social media
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He said America is a socialist country because we have a publicly funded police force, fire
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They say that if the government has any sort of public service, then that is socialism.
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Because socialism as an ideology is not very old.
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And yet, societies had public services more than two or three hundred years ago.
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Actually, they've always had public services and the government has provided certain things
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So it just, by definition, all of those things can't be socialism because socialism is very
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recent and young and that phenomenon is very old and has long standing.
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When we talk about things like the military or the police or the fire department, these
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are services that the government, in many ways, is instituted to establish, right?
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To protect us from threats abroad and to maintain law and order here in the United States.
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We've had them since, certainly since the very beginning of our country and every civilization
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in the history of the world has had that as well.
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Socialism takes a very specific ideology developed by people such as Karl Marx.
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It views the world as a class struggle between the proletarians and the bourgeoisie.
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It says that the workers of the world need to unite.
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The workers need to come together, seize the means of production.
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The way that this would be effected in reality is that the government would nationalize whole
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industries, which you see a lot, a big push right now on the left, which is
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more and more each day, openly socialist to do, and that this will create a sort of utopia
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The difference between socialism and communism, I know those terms get a little bit confused
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It's a little bit of a distinction without a difference.
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Christians go to heaven and socialists go to communism.
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So, in other words, there is this utopian idea, which for Christians would be heaven.
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And for socialists, it's actually utopian, meaning no place, because they try to make a
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And you never get there, which is why all of these socialist experiments always end up
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And they, they somehow never get to that wonderful, blissful place that they always
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I think part of the reason this gets confused is because in the United States, we have distilled
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conservative thought down to this very shallow, narrow ideology where anytime the government
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That's a very reductionist, kind of hyper, super-duper libertarian view of government.
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So, I think we've got to broaden our scope a little back, a little bit, look both more
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deeply philosophically and more broadly historically.
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And you can see that not every time the government does anything is it socialism.
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From that, dear austere religious podcaster and Lord of Covfefe, what are your thoughts on
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the Benedict option, as outlined by Rod Dreher and, to a lesser extent, Pope Benedict XVI?
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Is it a viable option for Christians in the U.S. as the culture continues to decline and
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becomes more hostile to Christianity and Christian values?
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If not, how do you think the church should proceed into the future, given the immense challenges
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So, broadly speaking, the Benedict option is this idea that Christians need to go live
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in the woods, more or less, and, you know, follow things like the rule of St. Benedict.
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As empire collapses, then you can go and form these sort of monasteries and be a part of the
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world and preserve the faith and preserve our culture for when we get to a more civilized
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time, because we are rapidly descending into darkness.
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I mean, I think there's a place for that, but I don't think we're quite there yet, and, you know,
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all of the proponents of the Benedict option, I notice, are still going on television and
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still writing things, and there's, you know, I just don't think we're at this point yet
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where we're all living in the woods and, you know, we're kind of fully, really removed
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But at a certain point, that very likely will happen, and that's an important thing, because
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you need to keep the flame of the faith and the flame of civilization going, even during
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those periods of persecution and darkness, and we are descending gradually into a period
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We've gone from what you would call a Christian culture into now a secular materialist culture
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with all sorts of kooky superstitions and ideologies and false religions, such as socialism
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or environmentalism or spiritualism, you know, kind of the religion of the self, all of these
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things, or transgenderism, which is a Gnostic dualism.
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All of these things are cropping up now and becoming increasingly hostile to Christianity.
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Be willing and ready to do that if you have to.
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But in the meantime, I think there's still a little chance that we can convince our fellow
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You said, you can make me scream, but you can't make me sing the other day on your show.
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That's not something I said to you, but I was saying that broadly.
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Is that a quote from somewhere, or did you turn this particular phrase?
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It's a delightfully macabre and visceral idea, and I would like to properly attribute it when
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Like so many great phrases that I have parroted, I cribbed it.
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But this exchange I heard from my good friend and priest, Father Ruttler, one of the great
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wordsmiths around whose writing you should read and whose homilies you should listen to.
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And I heard this, I think I just heard this in his church one time.
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He mentioned, now I forget the name of the opera singer, and I forget the name of the Nazi
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official, but it's a story of during the rise of Nazism in Germany, an official wants to
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hear this opera singer sing, and she refuses to go on stage.
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And he goes backstage and says, go out there and perform.
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And she says, you can make me scream, but you can't make me sing.
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I think it did happen, as I recall hazily the details, though I'll have to look it up
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Even if it were apocryphal, it gets to a real truth about that culture and our culture as well.
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Increasingly, you're seeing the left try to coerce us into untruths and into pretty dark things.
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And they're saying, we'll ruin your career if you don't spout lies.
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If you don't say that little boys should be injected full of hormones and chemicals
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to look more like little girls, even though it will fundamentally distort and destroy their biology.
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If you don't say that now, you could lose your job.
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You could be called a hater and a bigot and ostracized from society.
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And what the left is telling us is, we can make you sing.
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We'll make you sing the tune that we want you to sing.
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And what we need to say to all of them is, well, you can make me scream, but you can't make me sing.
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I seem to have noticed that you seem to be strongly against the prospect of a Libertarian Party presidential candidate.
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Need I remind you that Abraham Lincoln was a third party candidate of the Republican Party?
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Do you see a possibility of an electorate significantly disgusted with the Democratic Party
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that it would fall to third place and be thrown into the wastebasket of history along with the Whig Party?
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I would be open to fully kicking those donkeys off the national stage for the sake of the Constitution and preservation of the Republic.
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Thank you for reading my query and partial rant.
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I am interested in your question because usually when you hear, is there going to be a third party?
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It's people who are disenchanted with their own parties.
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You say, I don't like the Republican Party, but I'm still obviously not a Democrat.
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So can I, you know, do you think there's going to be a third party like a Libertarian or something?
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I don't like the Democrats and I want there to be a third party to destroy the Democrats.
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I wish that would happen, but I don't think it's going to.
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The only split that you would get is between the more old school moderate wing and the woke progressive wing.
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But that old school moderate wing doesn't really believe in anything.
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So, you know, they'll kind of, you think of guys like Bill Clinton or Joe Biden.
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I mean, it's not that they're moderate by conviction.
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It's that they're moderate by circumstance and by convenience.
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You know, if the winds blow in the other direction, they could become very woke.
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So I don't see the moderates, so-called, putting up any sort of fight.
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And I think that the woke people have more or less taken over the party.
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I think when Tom Perez, the head of the DNC, said that AOC is the future of the Democratic Party, he's probably right.
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And so if the party does collapse, which would be nice if it did at some point, I don't think it's going to happen for some time.
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By the way, I do have to thank somebody in the mailbag.
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Speaking of me cribbing people's slogans because I saw in Becky's question the phrase Fauci and bargain.
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We don't have a chance to answer all of her questions.
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Maybe we'll try to get to it next time in the mailbag.
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But I do want to thank her for that because I think that phrase totally encapsulates an idea that a lot of us are thinking about.
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That Democrats made a short-term deal to, you know, really exert a lot of power over all of us.
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And it's, in the long run, falling apart, as all deals with the devil do.
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And we can all laugh while that political calculation, while that hysteria, and while that alarmism falls apart.
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