The Michael Knowles Show - June 22, 2020


Ep. 566 - Brazen Lying Marxists


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

175.83354

Word Count

8,800

Sentence Count

753

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Our national collapse continues as more and more statues come down across the U.S. over the weekend, including those of Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key, and St. Junipero Serra. What are the real intentions of these protests and riots? Is it about Black Lives Matter, Antifa or something else?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Our national collapse continues as more statues come tumbling down. It's very difficult to keep
00:00:07.100 track of all the statues that have come down. You remember initially it was just Confederate
00:00:12.500 monuments. Then it was Robert E. Lee, who's got kind of a more special place. Then very quickly,
00:00:17.920 it was Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Christopher Columbus. Well, we've got even
00:00:20.700 more statues coming down over the weekend. A quick rundown. First, Ulysses S. Grant.
00:00:25.740 This one, maybe you were not expecting. Ulysses S. Grant is of course the union general who freed
00:00:34.040 all of the slaves. So you'd think that in the name of Black Lives Matter, probably wouldn't make sense
00:00:39.200 to tear down his statue, but that's exactly what they did in San Francisco. Next one up
00:00:44.420 is Francis Scott Key. Francis Scott Key wrote the national anthem. I guess no surprise there because
00:00:50.900 we know leftists hate the national anthem. They've been protesting the national anthem for a very long
00:00:55.500 time now, though it is a little bit ironic that they took down Francis Scott Key. Part of the reason
00:00:59.980 they did is there's a line in one of the verses of the national anthem that talks about slaves. So
00:01:05.420 the line is no refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the
00:01:11.680 grave. And there's, there's actually some debate over what this line even means, but of course,
00:01:18.060 leftists are not looking for context on that at all. So the, the word slave there might actually refer
00:01:23.580 to the British policy of impressment of enslaving people. But again, all nuance is gone. The other
00:01:29.440 thing about Francis Scott Key is though he owned slaves for a period of his life, he also publicly
00:01:34.120 criticized slavery. He gave free legal representation to slaves that were seeking freedom, but his statue
00:01:41.120 had to come down anyway. And then I think that the most ridiculous one, this was the third one over the
00:01:45.140 weekend. St. Junipero Serra. They are now pulling down actual honest to goodness, honest to God saints.
00:01:55.300 St. Junipero Serra was a missionary, came to the new world in 1749. He was canonized in 2015 by Pope
00:02:01.820 Francis. There's a statue of him in the U S Capitol. And believe it or not, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden
00:02:07.140 actually paid their respects to that statue. Not so long ago. That was then. This is now they're going to
00:02:12.960 tear down every single statue. And then guess what? Once all the statues are down, they're coming for
00:02:19.260 you. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the Michael Knowles
00:02:31.320 show. President Trump talked about all this statue toppling at his first speech since the lockdown,
00:02:36.380 which we will get to because this weekend more than any showed the real aim of these protests
00:02:43.800 and riots. And it's a lot worse than anybody thought. And they're not just going to stop at
00:02:48.460 statues. So president Trump talked about all of this, all of the pulling down of statues,
00:02:54.180 a lot of normal people, most normal people oppose this kind of stuff. You'll notice when you look at
00:03:00.700 who was pulling down the statues, it's a lot of people clad in black. They look like they're part of
00:03:04.520 far left organizations, either BLM, which we'll get to in one second or Antifa or other various
00:03:11.260 anarchist and communist groups. I don't think they speak for most people. Actually, Muhammad Ali Jr.,
00:03:16.500 son of the famous boxer and a civil rights advocate and social activist, he came out and
00:03:24.660 strongly opposed all the statue toppling and the riots and the looting and the protests. He said,
00:03:29.920 don't, he used colorful language, which I'll have to clean up a little bit. He goes,
00:03:33.300 don't bust up stuff. Don't trash the place. You can peacefully protest. My father would have said
00:03:39.540 they ain't nothing but devils. My father said all lives matter. I don't think he'd agree with the
00:03:44.880 BLM movement. Actually, Muhammad Ali Jr. said that he thought the BLM movement was racist. And then he
00:03:51.720 went on to defend cops. He said, police don't wake up and think I'm going to kill an N word today or kill
00:03:58.780 a white man. They're just trying to make it back home to their family in one piece.
00:04:03.420 Obviously correct. Muhammad Ali Jr. I have been telling you this for many weeks now that the Black
00:04:09.420 Lives Matter organization is a very, very bad organization. It is not what it purports to be.
00:04:15.060 It is a radical leftist, anti-American, no good, very bad organization, and nobody should have anything
00:04:20.260 to do with it. And as a result of saying that, I and others have been called racist, bigoted, terrible,
00:04:28.720 dishonest. Okay. Well, over the weekend, the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement
00:04:35.660 actually admitted that my take on it is correct. Okay. There was, I don't think they admitted it over
00:04:43.380 the weekend, but the video finally came out over the weekend. Patrice Cullor was caught on video
00:04:49.700 admitting that the BLM organization isn't about Black Lives Mattering, that she is a trained organizer
00:04:57.100 and she is a trained Marxist. I also think that it might, um, I think of a lot of things. The first
00:05:06.660 thing I think is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Um, myself and Alicia in particular,
00:05:12.400 are trained organizers. Um, we, uh, are trained Marxists. Um, we are, uh, super, uh, versed, um,
00:05:26.440 on sort of ideological theories. And I think that what we really try to do is build a movement that
00:05:32.580 could be utilized by many, many Black folk. When someone tells you that he or she is a Marxist,
00:05:40.940 believe them. Okay. You hear a lot of people ranting and raving about conspiracy theories and
00:05:49.440 tinfoil hats. And there are many people who rant and rave about Marxism. This woman is admitting it.
00:05:58.320 You don't need to feel bad about yourself. If you posted the black square, you don't need to feel
00:06:04.000 bad about yourself. If you posted the hashtag black lives matter, thinking that black lives matter is
00:06:08.900 about black lives mattering, but we now know it isn't. We now have the founders of BLM admitting
00:06:15.060 on video in their own words, that this is a Marxist front. Marxists have duped plenty of nice people in
00:06:23.460 history. Marxists have lied to many of nice people throughout history. Fool me once, shame on you.
00:06:32.000 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm remembering the George W. Bush version
00:06:39.380 of this, which is fool me twice. The point is you're not going to fool me again. That should be the
00:06:42.960 point. If they fool you the first time and you post the black square, that's on them. But if you
00:06:50.120 continue to give your support to the BLM organization, which is openly and avowedly Marxist,
00:07:00.120 radically ideological, radically anti-American, that's on you. Stop doing it. Stop posting the
00:07:08.780 hashtag. Stop posting the black square. That's not what this is about. And this battle is playing out,
00:07:13.980 not just in the United States. It's playing out all around the world because over the weekend,
00:07:18.860 you had the United Nations, which we fund for some reason, openly embracing another radical leftist
00:07:25.740 organization, another communist slash anarchist organization, Antifa. We'll get to that in one
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00:08:48.160 Ancestry.com slash Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S. The United Nations is now pro-Antifa. How much more evidence do we
00:08:59.600 need before we finally defund the United Nations? This should be it. You've got BLM admitting that
00:09:06.400 they're Marxist. How much more evidence do you need before you pull your support from BLM? Same
00:09:10.320 thing here with Antifa. They tweet, quote, UN hashtag human rights experts express profound concern over
00:09:17.080 a recent statement by the U.S. Attorney General describing Antifa and other anti-fascist activities
00:09:22.020 as domestic terrorists, saying it undermines the rights to freedom of expression and of peaceful
00:09:28.060 assembly in the country. See how they're conflating Antifa with anti-fascists. Now, Antifa is a communist
00:09:39.140 anarchist terror group. Anti-fascist just means you oppose fascism. Let's take that example all the way
00:09:46.700 back to when fascism had any sort of meaning, which is back in World War II with Mussolini and sort of
00:09:53.980 with Hitler, though national socialism is sort of a different thing. But lump them both together,
00:09:58.340 fine. That was the last time the word fascism really meant anything. George Orwell wrote an
00:10:02.840 essay about this after the Second World War, the word fascism lost all of its meaning. But in that war,
00:10:08.720 you see a lot of leftists these days talking about the allied troops as the original anti-fascists.
00:10:14.500 Remember, there were two kinds of anti-fascists in World War II. There were the Americans and the
00:10:20.060 British, our guys, good guys, and there were Stalin's communists, both anti-fascists. When you're just
00:10:31.580 opposed to something, that leaves it wide open to interpretation as to what side you are actually on.
00:10:38.380 Some anti-fascists are good, right? If you're an American soldier in World War II, that makes you,
00:10:44.560 that's a good guy. But if you're Stalin, just because you opposed Hitler at a certain point
00:10:52.060 doesn't make you a good guy. Doesn't mean that I want to ally with Stalin, okay? And yet the United
00:10:58.060 Nations conflates the two. We need to defund the United Nations. We pay 22% of the UN budget to invite
00:11:04.740 the worst people on earth to sit on a human rights council. Some of the worst, most despotic regimes in
00:11:11.020 history sit on a human rights council. Then they fly to New York to the seat of the United Nations
00:11:15.980 and criticize the United States. And we, like masochists, pay the bill. We say, thank you.
00:11:21.480 Thank you, Venezuela. May I have another? Thank you, North Korea. North Korea. Thank you, Cuba. May I have
00:11:27.000 another? Thank you, Iran. May I have another? Why are we doing that? The UN is situated on beautiful
00:11:35.660 waterfront property. We could knock down that building. We could bring in some nice bulldozers.
00:11:41.320 We could create beautiful Trump condominiums and we would save a lot of money every single year.
00:11:45.920 Now's the time to do that. We are in a battle that has become ideological. It's not just in the U.S.
00:11:54.440 It's international, but it's the same issues. What are we fighting for? Why are we,
00:12:02.000 why are we paying people and tolerating people, destroying our nation, our history, our culture?
00:12:10.160 Some conservatives, some conservatives go squishy on this. They say it's a good idea to take down the
00:12:16.720 statues. Take down the statues, put them in a museum. I say we take down rioters and put them in prison.
00:12:22.480 But some conservatives want to go along with the leftist mob, take down the statues and put them in
00:12:28.300 a museum. Very misguided. First of all, they won't stay in museums. You think you're going to take it
00:12:33.680 down from some public square and put it in a museum and then go get to look at it. No, they're coming
00:12:38.480 down from museums too. The American Museum of Natural History in New York just took down a statue
00:12:44.340 of Teddy Roosevelt. Why? What was so terrible about Teddy Roosevelt? Nobody can, nobody can tell except
00:12:51.440 that this statue of Teddy Roosevelt had a black man and an Indian in it and they didn't like that for
00:12:56.140 some reason. Too much integration, I guess. So they're taking down the statue. None of the statues
00:13:01.420 that are going to museums are going to remain there for very long. There's no limiting principle
00:13:06.420 to tearing down the statues, to tearing down some statues, but not other statues of our history.
00:13:14.220 And where the rubber meets the road, I notice for a lot of conservatives is Robert E. Lee.
00:13:18.640 Many conservatives who want to prove that they're not racist, prove to leftist mobs who don't care
00:13:27.500 if you're not racist and to whom we don't owe any sort of explanation whatsoever.
00:13:33.460 What those conservatives do is they say, okay, we'll keep up Lincoln and Jefferson. They're really
00:13:37.180 good guys and Washington and even Christopher Columbus, but we'll tear down Robert E. Lee because
00:13:41.980 Robert E. Lee is a traitor. This totally misunderstands the civil war,
00:13:50.000 our nation broadly, and how we look at our history. If you want to tear down that Robert E. Lee statue,
00:13:57.660 you find yourself exactly at odds with Abraham Lincoln's vision for what happens after the
00:14:03.380 second world war, after the second world war, after the civil war. We'll get to that in one second.
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00:15:28.580 Lee statue. You say conservatives are traitors. Robert E. Lee was a traitor. First of all,
00:15:36.420 Robert E. Lee was a great American general who only returned to Virginia when war broke out because he
00:15:43.360 was loyal to the Commonwealth of Virginia as a federalist, right? You have more local loyalties
00:15:49.840 before the national loyalty in an, in an issue like that. But then he was instrumental in bringing
00:15:55.560 about an end of the war. And Abraham Lincoln made an excellent point on how the war should end.
00:16:00.700 He said, with malice toward none, with charity for all, we will finish up this conflict.
00:16:11.060 That was good enough for the men who fought and won the civil war. That was good enough for the men
00:16:19.560 who lost their brothers in arms in the civil war. That was good enough for the families who lost loved
00:16:25.140 ones in the civil war. But it's not good enough for modern leftists. Robert E. Lee had his
00:16:30.900 citizenship reinstated. It's good enough for people who came before us, not good enough
00:16:36.740 for modern leftists. When there is a civil war, often that's the, that spells the end of a nation.
00:16:44.600 But the nation did come back together. That was not easy. It took a lot of healing. It took a lot
00:16:50.300 of compassion for our fellow citizens, rebuilding love of our fellow citizens.
00:16:56.940 We succeeded at that. And now 150 years later, more than 150 years later, people are trying to
00:17:03.860 tear that apart again, totally undoing all the good that Lincoln and those who came after him did.
00:17:11.240 The other reason why we can't tear down Robert E. Lee or why we shouldn't tear down Robert E. Lee
00:17:17.320 is that the argument for tearing down Lee is an argument for tearing down everybody.
00:17:25.440 Robert E. Lee is an American citizen, so I don't think the traitor line works. Really what you're
00:17:29.160 saying, he's a traitor, he's a racist, he's a bigot. You apply it to Jefferson and Washington.
00:17:33.680 Really what people are saying is this man had flaws. This man committed sins. This man was not
00:17:39.260 perfect. The, the statue of the perfect man who has lived any time in the last 2000 years or so
00:17:49.700 would be an empty statue. It would just be a platform. If that's your argument for tearing
00:17:55.620 down Lee, then you have to tear down all of the statues too. And not just tear down the statues,
00:18:00.020 you have to rename the institutions. Over the weekend, hashtag cancel Yale was trending nationwide.
00:18:05.920 What did Yale do? Yale has done many things in history, but one thing it did was push forward
00:18:14.820 this progressive idea that we've got to rename things, tear down statues. Yale renamed Calhoun
00:18:21.040 College just a few years ago because it was named after a guy who defended slavery and you can't have
00:18:27.060 that. So all these years later, we have to rename Calhoun College. At the time, Roger Kimball wrote an
00:18:33.280 essay where he pointed out that if you rename Calhoun College, you got to rename Yale because
00:18:37.340 Calhoun might've defended slavery, but Eli Yale was a slave trader, the man who Yale is named after.
00:18:42.440 So you got to rename Yale. Jesse Kelly, the conservative commentator talked about this over
00:18:46.680 the weekend. Ann Coulter has been talking about this for a while and it's very ironic. It's a little
00:18:51.920 bit chickens coming home to roost because Yale in recent years more or less kicked off the cancel
00:18:57.400 culture. Perhaps you remember shrieking girl, that Yale undergraduate who met her professor,
00:19:03.020 who was the head of the college that she was in and started shrieking at him because his wife had
00:19:10.660 the audacity to suggest that Yale students were able to choose their own Halloween costumes. He was
00:19:16.400 defending a principle of free speech and maturity and adulthood. She didn't like that. So she went on
00:19:22.040 a vulgar rant shrieking about how he should lose his job.
00:19:25.660 Be quiet. It is your job to create a place of comfort and home for the students that live in
00:19:31.740 Silliman. By sending out that email, that goes against your position as master. Do you understand
00:19:36.800 that? No, I don't agree with that. Then why the did you accept the position? I have a different vision than you. You should step down. If that is what you think about being a master, you should step down.
00:19:47.040 It is not about creating an intellectual fee. It's about creating a home here. You are not doing that. You are disgusting.
00:19:55.440 That's the future. That's the future president shrieking girl, future senator shrieking undergraduate.
00:20:05.200 Guess what Yale did? They didn't support the professors. Professors ended up leaving Yale. I think now they've come back, but they ended up leaving. They did step down. The students won.
00:20:14.700 Many of the students involved in that altercation won awards for social justice at graduation. What happened to Yale?
00:20:23.540 That's what many of us were asking ourselves. What happened to this place that they allowed this to happen?
00:20:30.200 Then it occurred to me. Yale was founded as a seminary and it still is one. Yale was founded as a place to train
00:20:40.220 priests and priests and preachers. And it still does that. All of the elite universities were founded as
00:20:47.080 seminaries and they are seminaries to this day. The difference is that initially they were seminaries
00:20:53.020 of Christianity. Today they are seminaries of liberalism, of wokeism, of leftism. Call it what you want.
00:21:01.560 They still train their students, indoctrinate their students with the same exact religious zeal that they had
00:21:08.880 when they were founded. But the religion has changed a little bit. Whereas we began with Christianity,
00:21:17.000 now we are at liberalism. And of course, if you're going to train students in that new woke religion,
00:21:23.540 then you're going to get zealots like that girl shrieking at her professor. And you are going to get
00:21:28.060 zealots renaming everything. Utter revolution. The sad thing about all these elite institutions,
00:21:36.960 don't forget universities going back to the middle ages, the earliest universities were outgrowths of
00:21:43.500 the Catholic church. They were places to train monks and priests, people in the faith. And now there's
00:21:50.860 a new faith. In Christianity though, you have redemption because you recognize man's fallen nature
00:21:57.020 and then you recognize your need of a redeemer. And then you recognize that a redeemer actually
00:22:01.340 came and redeemed mankind on the cross and rose from the dead. In leftism, there's no redemption.
00:22:10.320 In the religion of liberalism, there is an inversion of Christianity. You are told that you're perfect just
00:22:20.240 the way you are. And if you're not perfect, you can become perfect through your own actions,
00:22:24.060 through your own self-liberation from bondage, from the oppressive past into the new future.
00:22:28.820 You can perfect your own human nature. If there is some imperfection, it's society's fault. It's not
00:22:35.860 your fault. And if there is some imperfection, there's no redemption for it because there's no
00:22:41.440 redeemer. That's the sort of religion that topples statues. The original religion of our seminaries
00:22:50.060 built up, built up all of the statues, built up this great country. And the new one is tearing them
00:22:55.320 down. There is no middle ground in this political battle. There is no compromise. There's no
00:23:04.060 reconciliation. There's no meat in the middle. There's no meat in the middle between build a
00:23:08.300 statue and tear a statue down. You can, you can leave a statue up, I guess, but that's not really in
00:23:14.640 the middle. That's the former category. That's building up a nation. There's not going to be
00:23:20.620 any middle ground here. We are playing for keeps. It is a battle over keeping our country, which means
00:23:26.640 to continue to build our country or tearing our country down completely. And once they get past
00:23:33.200 the statues, they're not going to be happy. They're going to go for more institutions. They're going to go
00:23:38.140 for you. President Trump talked about this in his first rally since the coronavirus lockdown. And he
00:23:45.640 talked about his strategy. A lot of us, including on this show, we've talked about why is President
00:23:50.300 Trump allowing this to happen? Why won't he roll the tanks into Chaz, Chop, Soy Malia, Soy Viet Union,
00:23:54.820 whatever you want to call it? Why won't he do it? One thought has been that perhaps he wants people to
00:24:00.780 see how bad things get. Trump knows a lot about stagecraft and about the media. Maybe he wants people to
00:24:06.500 see the cities burning and then realize that we need law and order and we have to vote for him. I think
00:24:10.260 that's a tough strategy. But actually at his rally over the weekend, Trump admitted that this is exactly
00:24:17.300 what he's doing. All of these places I talk about are Democrat. You know that every one of them, every
00:24:26.160 one of them. And I have an offer out. I said, anytime you want, we'll come in, we'll straighten it out
00:24:32.800 in one hour or less. Now, I may be wrong, but it's probably better for us to just watch that
00:24:42.600 disaster. I flew in with some of our great congressmen who we're going to introduce in a
00:24:50.160 second. And I said to him, Congressman, what do you think? I can straighten it out fast. Should we just
00:24:57.020 go in? No, sir. Let it simmer for a little while. Let people see what radical left Democrats will do
00:25:05.940 to our country. He makes a great point here and confirms what a lot of us thought was happening.
00:25:15.660 And even more than that, he gives you a peek into his thinking. If President Trump were secretly
00:25:22.060 letting the cities burn just so that we could see how bad it was going to get, I think a lot of people
00:25:26.740 would accuse him of cynicism, saying, ah, you're willing to let cities go up in flames just to
00:25:31.880 make a political point. But the very fact that Trump is telling you what he's doing takes away
00:25:37.820 that cynicism, right? He's admitting it to you. There's no guile here. And that's the point of
00:25:44.780 these rallies is to take you behind the scenes, create this personal connection. And I think he does
00:25:50.020 that pretty successfully. The one trouble with this strategy, though, is that we no longer live in a
00:25:55.860 country that recognizes federalism very clearly. We don't really understand. If you asked 100 people
00:26:02.980 on the street, probably very few of them would recognize that we have local government, state
00:26:08.240 government, federal government. And actually, the local government makes most of the decisions that
00:26:13.760 administers most of the laws and regulations and the state government a little bit more, too. And the
00:26:19.120 federal government has relatively few powers, narrowly defined powers. Most people wouldn't
00:26:26.080 recognize that because it's become less and less true over time. So you look around at the burning
00:26:30.400 cities. I think a lot of people look at Trump and say, well, you're the president. Do something about
00:26:35.080 it. Action is a good spur to enthusiasm. Action is very inspiring. And so Trump is playing a game here.
00:26:42.980 That's why he said, I admit I could be wrong about this, but I think it's better to let people see
00:26:49.020 what happens. I think what needs to happen is a little bit of a combination of the two.
00:26:53.980 I think it's good to watch Chaz and chop. It's hilarious. It's it's sort of like when AOC proposed
00:27:00.000 the Green New Deal, which was so absurd. And Mitch McConnell immediately said, well, we got to vote on
00:27:04.760 this ASAP. We got to get the Green New Deal on the docket and we got to get everybody on the record.
00:27:09.260 Do you support destroying 90% of American energy? Do you support spending $93 trillion? Get on the
00:27:14.320 record, Senator. There is a little bit of that, that performance of seeing how bad it is. But we
00:27:18.880 also need to see action. We have elected Trump in part for his energy. We had other candidates who
00:27:24.540 Trump perhaps aptly described as low energy. Trump is high energy. So we want to see that energy in
00:27:31.060 action. Alexander Hamilton, writing in The Federalist, said that we want an energetic executive,
00:27:35.880 an energetic government. So we do have to see that eventually. When is that going to be?
00:27:41.500 Perhaps we'll have to wait and see. Trump took us a little more behind the scenes throughout the
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00:29:23.060 So Trump talks about his strategy on the riots. Then he gets even more personal than that. He goes
00:29:36.140 on this digression about how he was giving a speech at West Point, and then he tried walking down the
00:29:41.040 ramp, but the ramp was slippery, so he had to walk slowly. Most people are criticizing Trump for this.
00:29:46.160 They think this was a waste of time at his rally. I think it's the key feature to his rally.
00:29:52.500 Here is Trump talking about that all-important shuffle down the ramp.
00:29:58.140 And this was a steel ramp. You all saw it because everybody saw it. This was a steel ramp. It had no
00:30:05.120 handrail. It was like an ice skating rink. And I said, General, I have a problem. And he didn't
00:30:11.980 understand that at first. I said, there's no way. You understood. I just saluted almost 600 times.
00:30:19.980 I just made a big speech. I sat for other speeches. I'm being baked. I'm being baked like a cake.
00:30:27.140 I said, General, there's no way I can make it down that ramp without falling on my ass, General.
00:30:32.560 I have no rally. It's true. So I said, is there like something else around? Sir, the ramp is ready
00:30:44.860 to go. Grab me, sir. Grab me. I didn't really want to grab him. You know why? Because I said,
00:30:52.060 that'll be a story too. So he takes you through. You know, I don't like it when the president uses
00:30:57.720 vulgar language in public, but the story does seem to call for it. And I see what he's doing here.
00:31:03.040 The media for how long? For a week, basically, talked about how Trump was old and doddering
00:31:09.760 by walking down this ramp. Meanwhile, their candidate is Joe Biden. Enough said. But they
00:31:15.600 talk about the ramp for a week. So he wants to take you behind the scenes on all these little
00:31:19.920 moments. At one point, the media accused him of maybe having Parkinson's disease. Trump jokes about
00:31:24.940 this goes on a several minute long rant, basically a standup comedy bit about how when you're drinking
00:31:32.380 water, it's a good idea not to spill it on your silk necktie.
00:31:37.860 You had on a very good red tie. That's a sort of expensive. It's silk because they, they look better.
00:31:45.000 They have a better sheen to them. And I don't want to get water on the tie and I don't want to drink
00:31:52.100 much. So I lifted up the water. I see we have a little glass of water. Where the hell did this
00:31:56.600 water come from? Where did it come from? And I look down on my tie because I've done it. I've taken
00:32:03.960 water and it spills down into your tie. It doesn't look good for a long time. And frankly, the tie is
00:32:09.540 never the same. So I put it up to my lip and then I say, because I don't want it just in case.
00:32:15.540 And they gave me another disease. They gave me another disease.
00:32:29.900 So he takes a sip of the water
00:32:31.640 and he throws the water to decide. President Trump sips the water and then he throws it off the stage.
00:32:43.100 The guy gets stagecraft so well. And you were watching, you say, why am I watching the president
00:32:47.320 of the United States talking about how silk neckties have a better sheen and how you don't want to
00:32:51.280 dribble water on it because they're kind of expensive. Meanwhile, this guy's a billionaire.
00:32:55.520 It's very, very funny. It's very, very personal. And it makes you have a much tighter connection to
00:33:03.940 the man speaking than you have to the mainstream media that are lying about him. And it makes you
00:33:08.220 trust him more than you trust them. I actually think this kind of stuff, the tie bit, all of that,
00:33:12.800 is some of the most important stuff in the speech. He probably could have cut it down a little bit
00:33:16.220 in terms of the length of time, but it was really good stuff.
00:33:19.840 Then he shows you why this personal stuff matters because he pivots from a story that isn't completely
00:33:26.140 trivial, like the ramp or the necktie. He pivots into a personal story about negotiating over the
00:33:31.680 price of an aircraft. And now all of a sudden, very subtly before anybody knew what happened,
00:33:36.860 Trump blends the personal element and the political element. And he shows you his political
00:33:41.600 philosophy, which more or less boils down to make good deals.
00:33:46.560 I said, cancel the contract. I want to cancel. I said, general, can you cancel the contract? He said,
00:33:53.480 yes, sir. I'm very proud of it. Oh, good. Cancel it. Okay, sir. By the way, to cancel it,
00:33:59.560 do you have to pay anything? Yes, sir. We have a cancellation fee, sir. How much is it, general?
00:34:05.180 $250 million, sir. I said, what? Sir, we made a good deal. $250 million. You mean if we don't buy
00:34:16.600 the plane, we have to hand them $250 million? That's not good, right? Look at these two guys.
00:34:20.620 They're looking. By the way, that's like a good story compared to some I could tell you,
00:34:25.160 like with aircraft carriers. So I say, general, don't cancel. Don't cancel. Just tell him I don't
00:34:33.700 want the planes. Don't put anything in writing. Don't put it in writing, general. Why, sir? Because
00:34:39.840 I don't want to pay $250. You don't want to pay $250. The speech was largely like this. It was much
00:34:47.160 funnier than Dave Chappelle's recent standup special on Netflix, right? This is Trump's superpower,
00:34:53.980 and he does it very well. Why does this matter? Well, because most politicians, they don't care
00:34:59.660 about $250 million. $250 million is a drop in the bucket of our federal budget. It's a rounding error,
00:35:04.500 so nobody worries about that. Trump is showing you he does worry about that, that the president
00:35:08.480 of the United States, leader of the free world, is personally negotiating over the cost of airplanes
00:35:13.620 because most politicians don't care about this stuff, but most Americans do budget.
00:35:18.680 They think about things. Even if you go buy a t-shirt or you go buy a box of cereal or something,
00:35:23.500 you're looking at the numbers. You say, okay, well, I don't want to spend $5. I'd rather spend $4. I
00:35:29.380 don't want to spend $15. I'd rather spend $14, and you're thinking about these things. It's very
00:35:33.740 relatable. It shows you that this guy is different from everyone in Washington, and he's much more
00:35:37.660 like you. He then moves on to more ideological questions, and this question, I think, shows a
00:35:44.300 major debate that's going on on the right right now between the old kind of more libertarian consensus
00:35:50.280 and the new, more conservative, traditional idea that's emerging. And this is on the question
00:35:56.440 of flag burning. As President Trump echoed a sentiment he's mentioned before, sentiment that
00:36:01.460 I have supported on this show, which is we ought to have laws or a constitutional amendment, I suppose,
00:36:08.460 in this country against burning the American flag.
00:36:11.460 And you know, we ought to do something, Mr. Senators. We have two great senators. We ought to
00:36:17.460 come up with legislation that if you burn the American flag, you go to jail for one year. One year.
00:36:24.940 This is a great idea. I know that some conservatives are going to shrink back instinctively.
00:36:37.000 Like if you're at a doctor's office and he hits the hammer on your knee and the knee goes up.
00:36:40.340 You're going to shrink back at that because we support free speech. So you can't be for a flag
00:36:45.400 burning, anti-flag burning amendment, right? Wrong. Not quite. What's the issue here? The issue is the
00:36:52.600 debate. Are conservatives going to get serious or are we going to let the left run roughshod over
00:36:56.520 the country? For a long time in this country, for most of our nation's history, we've had laws
00:37:03.000 against burning the flag. For a lot longer than we haven't had laws against burning the flag.
00:37:09.180 This was just part of our, our nation. Then this, this was challenged in recent decades and it was
00:37:15.740 found to be unconstitutional to have a law against burning the American flag. And actually Antonin
00:37:22.420 Scalia, the great originalist justice was one of the people who opposed, who found that it was
00:37:30.660 unconstitutional to have an amendment or a law against burning the American flag. The conservatives
00:37:35.040 tended to support the flag burning laws. Liberals opposed the flag burning laws. Scalia sided with the
00:37:43.060 liberals on constitutional grounds because he said that burning the American flag is clearly an
00:37:46.720 expressive action. It clearly is about political speech. And so those laws are unconstitutional.
00:37:53.360 Now, one solution to this would be pass a constitutional amendment saying you can't
00:37:57.340 desecrate the American flag. Because in some cases, when you want to dispose of an old American
00:38:02.240 flag, a tattered American flag, you do burn it. We're not worried about the burning. It's the
00:38:05.600 desecration that we don't like. I think this is a very good idea. There's a reason why we,
00:38:11.000 for most of our country's history, had laws against burning the American flag and we all thought that
00:38:14.520 they were perfectly constitutional. It's because it's incoherent to burn the American flag and to
00:38:23.060 do so in the name of the first amendment. Because the American flag is the symbol of the whole country,
00:38:27.740 the country which includes in it the first amendment. If you burn the American flag,
00:38:31.580 you are burning symbolically the first amendment. And so it's an act that doesn't make any sense.
00:38:36.980 Moreover, I mean, I think of it in the way that G.K. Chesterton talked about how there is a thought
00:38:41.500 that stops thought. And that is the only thought that ought to be stopped. There is free expression
00:38:47.380 that stops free expression. And that is the only free expression that ought to be stopped by the
00:38:52.100 lights of the first amendment. That would be something like burning a flag. Another reason is
00:38:55.740 that nations need to have things that hold them together. And when in the early days of America,
00:39:02.560 we all shared, we shared largely a common actual ancestry in the Anglo-American tradition. We shared
00:39:09.960 a language. We shared political institutions. We shared a religion. We shared all of these things.
00:39:17.500 And increasingly over time, we don't share those things anymore. We don't share any of those things,
00:39:22.180 really. You need to have something that holds you together. And if you can't even agree on the symbol
00:39:27.440 of the whole country, then there's nothing left. Another reason this is a great idea and why it's
00:39:34.440 actually conservative to have an amendment, a constitutional amendment against burning the
00:39:38.880 American flag, is that the conservative worldview needs to have not just form, but substance. It needs
00:39:45.060 to have not just procedure, but actual stuff. So for instance, we support free expression.
00:39:52.000 We support the first amendment, but we also need to support specific things to express.
00:39:59.320 It can't just be, you're free to make any decision you want. Well, what decision are you going to make?
00:40:04.260 It's like the pro-choice people. They say, we're pro-choice. Okay. You're choosing to do what?
00:40:08.880 Really what they mean is they're pro-abortion. We need to have stuff to our conservatism. For the last
00:40:15.580 50, 60 years, conservatism has more or less just boiled down to procedure. We're okay. We're going
00:40:24.020 to oppose the, the certain procedures that are destroying America. But if you use the right
00:40:31.340 procedure to tear down statues, that's a good thing. Or even on the question of immigration,
00:40:35.700 as we let them more and more and more immigrants in the country and there's less and less and less
00:40:38.940 assimilation. We say, okay, well we can, of course we would never oppose that left-wing policy,
00:40:43.620 but you got to do it legally. You got to follow the right procedure, but we're not going to oppose
00:40:47.340 you on the substance. We need to have some substance to it. We've seen the effects. Look
00:40:52.000 at originalism. We've said, we need to have these originalist judges. They don't need to have any
00:40:55.440 conservative content, but they need to file this procedure of interpretive principle. Well, guess
00:40:59.440 what? We've lost virtually every important case over the last 20, 30 years, 40 years, more than that.
00:41:06.820 The procedure is not enough. We need to have substance. We need to stand for something.
00:41:10.560 I think that would be a good future for the conservative movement. Frankly, I think it's
00:41:16.280 the only future if we want to stop before all the statues and all, all of our country has tumbled
00:41:20.840 down. And of course, no one is talking about the substantive points of that rally. Everyone is
00:41:25.660 just talking about the crowd sizes. So the left is now attacking Trump for not having a big enough
00:41:30.480 crowd. We were promised a zillion people were going to show up and then there weren't as many.
00:41:36.280 Ironically, before the rally, the left was preemptively attacking Trump for having too
00:41:41.500 many people at the rally. He was going to have too many people and was going to spread coronavirus.
00:41:46.180 Then there, there were more spaced out. There were some empty seats. They were making fun of Trump for
00:41:50.180 having not enough people. Three theories of this. Was there intimidation outside the rally?
00:41:55.300 Was it leftist sabotage or was it lack of enthusiasm for Trump? We know that there was leftist
00:42:00.100 sabotage. AOC admitted it. She said, actually, you got rocked by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump
00:42:05.700 campaign with fake ticket reservations and tricked you into believing a million people wanted your
00:42:09.380 white supremacist open mic to pack an arena during COVID. Shout out to Zoomers. You all make me so
00:42:14.720 proud. She was saying it was teenagers who did all this. Turns out it wasn't really teenagers. It was
00:42:18.280 older leftist activists. Here's one woman admitting, as AOC did, that she, she was pushing for all of
00:42:24.640 this. A woman named Mary Jo Laup, who does not exactly look like a teen or a Zoomer, but here's the
00:42:29.400 TikTok she made. If you've been paying attention to the news, you know that Donald Trump is planning on
00:42:34.040 holding his first political rally post-quarantine on June 19th in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Now, if you don't
00:42:39.700 know why that's a big deal, I want you to Google two phrases, Juneteenth and Black Wall Street.
00:42:44.920 You'll find out why people are really upset about this and why it's a slap in the face to the Black
00:42:48.140 community. Somebody on another TikTok post commented that he was offering two free tickets on his
00:42:53.100 campaign website to go to this rally. So I went and investigated it. It's two free tickets per cell
00:42:57.880 phone number because when you register, you have to give them your cell phone number. They send you a
00:43:01.720 code. You put the code in and your tickets are reserved for you. So this probably means having
00:43:06.380 worked on a political campaign this past fall, it probably means that I'll start getting text
00:43:09.880 messages from his campaign. All I have to do to get rid of those is text stop. That's all you have to do.
00:43:14.840 Once you text stop, they have to stop texting you. That's the law. They have to leave you alone.
00:43:18.780 So I recommend that all of those of us that want to see this 19,000 seat auditorium barely filled or
00:43:23.440 completely empty, go reserve tickets now and leave him standing there alone on the stage. What do you say?
00:43:27.700 Okay. So she admits it. AOC admits that there was some sabotage going on. There were some protesters
00:43:33.200 out there, intimidate protesters, intimidating Trump supporters who wanted to come in. I think
00:43:38.180 there's also a campaign issue. The campaign could have handled this better. We know that the left
00:43:42.360 pulls these sort of tactics. They do this to every speech that I give on campus. They always reserve a
00:43:46.680 lot more seats and then they either don't show up or they show up and they leave early. That's why we
00:43:51.260 have an, an, a wait list line outside to immediately fill in the seats. I was actually giving a speech about
00:43:57.020 six or eight months ago, defending George Washington at George Washington university in Washington,
00:44:01.420 DC. You might say that I saw this coming, this toppling of the Washington statues. So I was
00:44:08.440 giving a defense of Washington and at a certain point about five, 10 minutes in a whole group of
00:44:12.940 leftists left and we immediately filled the seats back in. Campaign should have seen that coming and
00:44:17.980 the campaign should not have caved to the mob on moving the date. You remember the, initially the
00:44:23.980 Trump rally was supposed to be on June 19th, Juneteenth. Now the most important holiday in
00:44:28.700 all of America. Juneteenth is the day that Republicans told the slaves in Texas that they
00:44:33.800 were free. And this has somehow become a political issue for Democrats. I don't know how that, how they
00:44:38.340 managed to do that. So they said the Trump campaign has to move the rally. Can't be on June 19th,
00:44:44.240 Juneteenth. And the Trump campaign acquiesced to this. They shouldn't have done that. First of all,
00:44:49.500 it created some confusion over when the rally was and it dispirited people because they caved
00:44:54.120 to the leftist mob needlessly and counterproductively. So I think the campaign should
00:45:00.320 learn some lessons from this. Be better prepared next time. Look, this was the first rally in three
00:45:05.080 months, right? Since the lockdowns, that's fine. The important thing is we need to get back out there
00:45:10.780 and see some more rallies. The cancel culture, the statue toppling, the anti-American activities
00:45:19.860 are going to continue. All right. They're already trying, you know, they canceled Christopher Columbus
00:45:24.040 a long time ago. They're now trying to rename Columbus, Ohio, as I said, would certainly happen.
00:45:28.480 They, if you take down a statue of Columbus at Columbus High School in Columbus, Ohio,
00:45:32.540 the next question is why is the high school named after, or the community college named after Columbus?
00:45:36.920 Why is the town named after Columbus? So they want to change the name. And I think this encapsulates
00:45:41.700 the whole of liberal modernity. They want to change the name of Columbus, Ohio to Flavortown.
00:45:49.520 Flavortown, Ohio. This is what they say about it. They say, Columbus is an amazing city, but one whose
00:45:56.000 name is tarnished by the very name itself. Its namesake, Christopher Columbus is in the bad place,
00:46:00.240 by which they mean hell, but they can't use the word hell because they have a very religious worldview,
00:46:04.260 but they don't have our religious worldview. They've replaced it with leftism. He's in the bad
00:46:08.800 place because of all his raping, slave trading, and genocide. That's not exactly a proud legacy.
00:46:13.180 So again, they get Columbus completely wrong. They accuse him of crimes he did not commit,
00:46:18.360 but you don't expect historical literacy from people who would name a town Flavortown.
00:46:24.300 Why not rename the city Flavortown? The name is twofold. One, it honors central Ohio's proud
00:46:28.720 heritage as a culinary crossroads in one of the nation's largest test markets for the food industry.
00:46:32.480 Second, Chef Leopardy, Guy Fieri, was born in Columbus, so we can honor him.
00:46:38.780 This is what happens in liberalism. Liberalism, and this happens as liberalism spreads out,
00:46:45.540 not just over time, but geographically. It replaces real culture, profound culture,
00:46:52.140 real history, real literature, real art, real tradition with nothing but consumption,
00:47:01.480 nothing but the idea that we should feed our appetites. In this case, literally feed our
00:47:07.280 appetites with debased pop culture and cheap food, cheap, salty, fatty food. Feed me, feed me,
00:47:16.200 feed me. We have squandered our culture on our own ravenous appetites. That's what happens. The old
00:47:24.060 idea of liberty, the old idea of freedom, is that we have to tame our appetites so that we can
00:47:28.260 conquer our passions and actually be free in the world. And the modern liberal idea of liberty
00:47:34.480 is you give in to your passions, you give in to your appetites, and only when you do exactly what
00:47:44.460 you want to do, whenever you want to do it, then only are you free. What culture do you want to live
00:47:50.960 in Flavortown? We're, we're all headed toward Flavortown, folks. When the last statue finally
00:47:56.220 falls, then we will be living in Flavortown, USA. Is that, is that the culture you want? Do you want
00:48:02.660 to live in the world of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and our beautiful
00:48:07.920 monuments and our religion and our traditions and our institutions? Or do you want to live in
00:48:13.420 Flavortown? Unfortunately, these days, probably most people want to live in Flavortown. Not a good sign
00:48:18.040 for our country, though. That's our show. We got more to get to. We'll do it tomorrow. I'm Michael
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