Ep. 578 - Black Beans Matter
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The head of Goya Foods was invited to the White House to speak about his company, and he committed a crime so atrocious, so outrageous, that the popular culture will not forgive him for it. It s like listening into a Klan rally, isn t it?
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First, they came for Aunt Jemima. And I said nothing because I don't like pancakes. And then
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they came for Uncle Ben. And I said nothing because I don't like rice. And now they're
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coming for Goya. And even if you don't like Puerto Rican black beans, you have got to speak out
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because they are going to come for you, whether you like it or not. That is right. Robert Unanue
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or Unanue, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it. I will call him Mr. Goya, the head of Goya
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Foods, was invited to the White House. He was there to speak about his company. And
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he he committed a crime so atrocious, so outrageous that the popular culture will not forgive him
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for it. He said something nice about the president of the United States. We're all truly blessed
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at the same time to have a leader like President Trump, who is a builder. And that's what my
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grandfather did. He came to this country to build, to grow, to prosper. And so we have an
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incredible builder. And we pray. We pray for our leadership, our president, and we pray for our
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country, that we will continue to prosper and to grow.
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So it's basically like listening into a Klan rally, isn't it? It's just so,
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so shocking and outrageous. So now what's so funny is that the left is making a big deal out of this
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Goya endorsement of Trump. Did it sound like he's endorsing Trump? I mean, he's saying nice things
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when he says, Donald Trump is a builder, just like my grandfather was a builder.
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Regardless of what you think about Donald Trump, you have to admit the guy's at least a builder,
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right? He's got his name on a lot of buildings all around the country. Well, that was too far
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for the left. Even though, by the way, this same man, the same head of Goya,
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when he was called in to work with the Obama administration, said nice things about Barack
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Obama. It's just respectful. And how basic, how obvious to say, we pray for our country.
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We pray for the president of the United States. Well, they called him on it. And a lot of people
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were just waiting for Mr. Goya, like everybody else, to fold under pressure and say, I'm sorry.
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I didn't mean to be nice to Trump. Well, this guy's a little bit different. He turned to the mob
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and he refused to bow. I went to the White House later and introduced in Hispanic Heritage Month,
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President Obama. And so you're allowed to talk good or to praise one president,
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but you're not allowed. When I was called to be part of this commission to aid in economic
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and educational prosperity and you make a positive comment, all of a sudden that's not acceptable.
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So, you know, I'm not apologizing for saying, and especially if you're called by the president
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of the United States, you're going to say, no, I'm sorry. I'm busy. No, thank you. I didn't say
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that to the Obamas and I didn't say that to President Trump. That's right. My man, I'm not
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apologizing to the mob. This is not only the best, wisest course of action when the mob comes for
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you. It is the only course of action because the left is going to cancel you whether you try to be
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nice to them or not. It's in these small little seemingly trivial stories that the big issues play
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out. Black beans matter. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. Democrats are calling for a major boycott. They're calling for a boycott
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of Goya. Chrissy Teigen. Who is Chrissy Teigen? I don't know. I guess she's a model or something.
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I know I've heard the name before, but I'm sorry. I can't pay that much attention to this dumb
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leftist culture. Chrissy Teigen tweets out, quote, F-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-C-K.
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A shame. Don't care how good the beans taste, though. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Not eating Goya beans
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anymore because the CEO said something nice about the president and said that he would pray for him.
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Rep. Luis Gutierrez, former congressman, posted in a now this video, so it's a left-wing media company,
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he posted out his shock and horror and how Goya beans now are responsible for the oppression of Hispanic people.
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This is a video of my pantry filled with Goya products.
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I say to the owners of Goya, you came as conquistadores.
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You wiped out our indigenous population in Puerto Rico.
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You exploited the Puerto Ricans for centuries under your colonialism.
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And now you wish to bring about more of Donald Trump, who hates us, despised us, and has treated the Puerto Rican people with such cruelty.
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No more Goya. Boycott Goya. I will never buy another product of yours again.
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Never, ever again. Could you imagine if the left got this irate over an issue that actually matters?
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Could you imagine if they got this irate over school choice or crime in Chicago?
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Oh man, that would be great. We could use a little bit of that passion as people are getting slaughtered left and right in New York and Chicago.
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But they don't really care about that. They don't care about school choice. They don't care about giving people opportunity.
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They just want to stand on their soapbox on Goya beans. AOC did it too.
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AOC, the future of the Democratic Party, tweeted out, oh look, it's the sound of me Googling how to make your own adobo.
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She's not eating Goya anymore either. The left is canceling Goya.
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It's crazy that they're focusing on this tiny little nothing issue, right? Not really.
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Because for the left, it's in these small issues that all their rot begins.
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We'll get to that in one second. We'll get to them denying their own canceling, even though we just listened to all of it.
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So the left, you see, just calls, don't buy Goya.
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Goya's terrible. Down with Goya. I'm never eating Goya again.
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Because they said, we'll pray for the president and pray for our country.
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Then the left has to deny that this is happening.
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Why is Rep Gutierrez like he's giving the We Shall Fight on the Beaches speech from Winston Churchill about black beans?
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It's because in the 60s, the left told us the personal is the political.
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This has been a theme that's come up for about 100 years now on the left.
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You can call it the long march through the institutions.
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But you can call it the personal is the political.
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That they need to apply their ideology to everything.
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That's why they care about political correctness.
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That's why they care about which pronouns you use.
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That's why they care about which euphemism you use.
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And you're allowed to say people of color, but not colored people.
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And you formerly could say African American, but then it was black again.
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And then these little minor details are how they will control the culture.
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This actually comes back to an Italian man named Antonio Gramsci, who is this Marxist founder of the Italian Communist Party.
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And Gramsci, along with other thinkers, applied the principles of Marxism to cultural issues.
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And what they were hoping for is something called cultural hegemony, which is that when you infiltrate the culture itself, the words, the way in which we think, the products that we use, the institutions that we go to.
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When you infiltrate that, it's much easier to achieve your political goals than if you were to just be a kind of old school activist and run a big campaign and try to get signatures on your petition and try to win various elections.
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I mean, there's a, you know, we're joking a little bit when we say black beans matter.
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That's now what the, that's now what a protest issue like black lives matter.
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They're, they're using the exact same passion to talk about Goya beans, but it really is true.
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And as they do it, they need to deny everything.
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If you Google cultural Marxism right now, you'll see, it says it's a conspiracy theory, an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, which is bizarre because the first cultural Marxist and avowed cultural Marxist, a guy who says apply Marxism to culture, head of the Marxist party in Italy was not Jewish at all.
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He was an Italian guy named Gramsci, but they have to deny it.
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There have been so many thinkers who've said, we need to apply these principles to the culture.
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Actually, all three leaders of black lives matter right now are avowed self-described trained Marxists, but then they deny it.
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Because as many of these thinkers say explicitly in their writings, they need it to be subtle.
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You need to not be aware that the culture around you is changing.
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So now their new line is that cancel culture is not real.
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This has got to be news to all the people who have been canceled, right?
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We see these big cultural touchstones of, sorry, you can't be called this.
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Kevin Hart can't host the Oscars because you made a joke 10 years ago.
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So they all get canceled and they say you weren't really canceled.
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Charles Blow from the New York Times tweets out.
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Others can choose never to deal with you, your company or your product ever again.
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The rich and powerful are just upset that the masses can now organize their dissent.
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They're saying, look, we're not canceling anybody.
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We're just, we're just telling you that if you have an opinion that contradicts the politically
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correct culture, then we're going to organize a campaign to destroy your life.
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Or if you said something 10 years ago, we're going to organize a campaign to destroy your
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People who are actually canceled don't get their thoughts published and amplified in major
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So they're saying, look, whatever you can still, if you still exist, if you maybe can get
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your voice heard, then you haven't been canceled.
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The left denies that they cancel people, even as they cancel people, because it's a little
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bit of a subtle issue and they're trying to confuse some terms.
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So let's get very specific on what canceling is.
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We, we at one time had freedom of association, at least in America, and we still say that we do.
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So if you choose not to buy a product or not to go to a certain place, then you're well
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The difference is cancel culture is when you boycott companies and ostracize people for
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saying and doing things that five minutes ago would have been perfectly appropriate,
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I mean, the head of Goya said very similarly nice things about Barack Obama, but he wasn't
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And all he said here was, I'm praying for the president of the United States.
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He's a builder and I'm proud of builders, but he's being canceled for that.
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Now, most specifically, cancel culture involves going through some guy's past.
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And 10 years ago, he said or did something that by the lights of today's standards is
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And so it's an activist campaign to try to, to ruin his life.
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But I think the big difference here is that there is a substantive difference.
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We want to just have a set of rules and an ideological manifesto and say, we're going to
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play, play exactly by this and hold everyone to the same standards.
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Pulling up the American flag and honoring it in your backyard is not the same act as desecrating
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They're both expressions that you make with a flag, but they're not the same thing.
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They make the guy who, who disrespected the star-spangled banner, their spokesman.
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They pull shoes that have the Betsy Ross revolutionary war flag.
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They pull them because they say America is so hopelessly bigoted and racist from the very
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That company gets rewarded by the popular culture, even though I think the particular
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expression that they're making probably is unpopular with a lot of people.
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Goya comes out and says, I'm going to pray for our country.
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Those two things should not be treated in the same way.
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Conservatives need to grow a spine and realize that politics is not just about form.
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It's not just about the right to boycott somebody.
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There is so much dishonesty going on in this debate because it's also unlike what AOC is
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This is not just a, a grassroots expression of feeling, a cry from the heart of the people.
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This is contrived BS from radical leftist activists, namely AOC, namely the people working
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And we need to be able to say, this is wrong and this is right.
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I mean, we, we say that only the left can cancel people because the left controls all
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Sometimes some conservatives go a little limp and they go along with the left, but the
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We can't even trust them on, obviously forget their reporting on coronavirus.
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But now, even when they talk about their own personal experience with coronavirus, we saw
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this with NBC news, a reporter describing his personal experience, even that we can't
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An NBC News reporter, the science contributor and virologist, Joseph Fair, went on TV to describe
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his personal experience with coronavirus, said it was the worst he ever felt.
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Dr. Fair, let me start with you, because I would like you to share a little bit about
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What should Americans take away from your experience?
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Well, first of all, you know, I did not have any underlying conditions.
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And, you know, I'm not like a triathlete or anything like that, but I was generally very
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healthy, could run, exercise probably four or five times a week.
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That being said, I did not expect if I got COVID-19 that I would get that ill because I don't have
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any of those underlying conditions, I'm 42 years old.
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So you wouldn't think clinically that I would be one of those people that would get so very ill.
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I can say that that's seven to eight days prior to me hospitalizing myself when I was doing the
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And then obviously I developed the secondary pneumonia at the end.
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And so the struggle in breathing and everything else.
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So I was shocked at how severe my illness got, you know, without having those underlying
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I'm pretty shocked to hear that 23 out of 24 hours in bed.
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That's not what seems to be shown from the data, what's going on around the world, certainly
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And the doctor here, or the scientific contributor, the virologist, has some advice, encouragement.
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You young people, you better take this virus seriously.
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So what I would take from that is, you know, everyone that's younger, everyone that is going
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out without mask now and being very cavalier with that and ignoring this kind of ongoing
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And, you know, we use the analogy and the band played on with HIV and its response in
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That's really the analogy we should be using with coronavirus right now to a much greater
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And so those people that are young and think they're invincible or people that just don't
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think it's going to affect them that greatly, even if they do get it, I can say that my own
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It really, you know, I can't say that I had a brush with death, but it was enough to put me in the ICU
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for four days and in the hospital for six days.
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I can't say it's a brush with death, but it's pretty close, huh?
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ICU for four days, sleeping 23 out of 24 hours.
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I mean, I know that, that the data, you know, have contradicted all the scaremongering from
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And I know that all the experts and the media and the politicians have gotten everything wrong,
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but surely, surely you can't dispute this man's personal harrowing experience.
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Well, the craziest part is he never had coronavirus.
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That guy tested negative for coronavirus and that guy tested negative for the antibodies
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That video, that testimony, scandalized even me.
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And I have no respect for the media and I don't believe a word that they say, the mainstream
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media, the networks and the New York Times and the legacy newspapers.
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And even I was shocked with how brazenly dishonest that report was.
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And this is what we are basing our public policy on.
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Because anybody listening to that, I don't care you're the most hardened skeptic of the
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You hear that, you say, gosh, I don't want that virus.
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Have you seen the double standard in recent weeks?
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Because the news moves so fast, sometimes you don't get to compare the headlines even
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So here's a piece that came out in Time Magazine on July 11th.
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Three weeks after Trump's Tulsa rally, Oklahoma reports record high COVID-19 numbers.
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You can't attribute events that happen, you know, around the same time they seem to be
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You can't attribute them to cause and effect necessarily.
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And you're saying this is going to cause all the super spreading of coronavirus.
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What about the hundreds of thousands of people that poured out into the streets to burn the
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That must, surely that must have had a super duper effect on coronavirus, right?
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Well, same magazine, Time Magazine writes, what, 11 days before June 30th?
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Nationwide protests haven't caused a COVID-19 spike so far.
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Trump holds a rally and there's any coronavirus.
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Hundreds of thousands of people pour out into the street, but they're leftists.
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Parties, not protests, are causing spikes in coronavirus.
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Parties, probably conservatives who don't take this seriously.
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They're crazy conspiracy theorists or something.
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WAPO, protests probably didn't lead to coronavirus spikes, but it's hard to know for sure.
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LA Times, experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in the United States.
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So, all of the focus in the media, I'm sure you've heard it, the exploding number of cases.
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Even in Texas, they're trying to get people to wear masks and lock down.
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The cases are exploding, all thanks to Trump rallies, by the way.
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Not at all thanks to the rioting of the last month or so.
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There's an important measure they're leaving out, namely, how many people are dying?
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There are a lot of reasons why someone might be diagnosed with COVID.
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Could be that people are more on edge, so they're going and getting tested.
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It could be that more people are getting it, but the death rate is significantly lower than
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the super-duper experts told as it was going to be, so it's not as deadly.
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Well, let's turn, not just across the Atlantic, let's turn to maybe the one country that did not
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Oh, the civilized world said Sweden is going to kill all of their population because they're
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not shutting down the economy and they're not forcing people to stay indoors all the
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Sweden took this approach, which I thought from the beginning was the most reasonable approach,
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which is if you're very vulnerable, stay home and use precautions and be fine.
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Sweden's number of cases did shoot up and they had some higher numbers of deaths early
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And now Sweden's coronavirus death toll is approaching zero.
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My friends who are telling me, I have many liberal friends who are telling me, we have
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They don't remember that we were told now it seems like years ago, 15 days to slow the
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spread, slow the spread, not stop the virus, slow the spread, flatten the curve.
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It means exactly the same number of people are going to get it, but it will spread it
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out over time so that the hospital system won't be overwhelmed.
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Well, we found out even in New York where it was the worst because Cuomo completely mishandled
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We found out they never even came close to overwhelming the hospital system.
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Maybe the curve would have been flattened anyway, even if we didn't lock down.
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But regardless, because Sweden didn't lock down, they never overwhelmed their hospital
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But regardless, what else could the masks and the lockdowns achieve?
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The thing is going to move through the population.
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Sweden's coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it
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That headline is actually almost honest, which is that they're saying, yeah, this is working
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and it's great, but the experts are really upset because it proved them all wrong and
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it's destroying their credibility and it's not allowing them to control everybody.
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Now, unfortunately on this, even as the skeptics, the conservatives have been proved right time and
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time again, even as the hysterical people, the alarmists in the media, in politics, in activism,
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even as they're proven wrong, as the experts, the public health experts, they've been proven
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There is still a lot of pressure on conservatives to cave.
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And I'm sorry to say, President Trump exhibited a little bit of this the other day.
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Now, I think he redeemed himself a little bit later.
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I begged him not to do it, but he did it anyway.
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It's a small thing, it seems, right, to put on the mask.
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It sends a message, first of all, to the rest of the world, which is projecting weakness.
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When the leader of the free world muzzles his face, covers himself up, it shows weakness.
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I don't think they're particularly effective, not the cloth ones at least.
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But regardless, I'm not talking about the efficacy of masks medically.
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Because what it says to the left is, you were right.
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And that's exactly what the left is saying right now.
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Do you think Trump got credit for wearing the mask?
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Said that now this is evidence that all conservatives should wear the mask.
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Jake Tapper said, quote, someday someone will do a study on how many lives might have been saved
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It's, it's an absurd statement that live, we lost all these lives because Trump didn't wear a mask.
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It's an absurd statement to say conservatives should now wear the masks.
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But they're right in that Trump gave them the premise.
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And whoever's advising him to do this should be fired.
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Or they should at least be sidelined and not listened to anymore.
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First of all, why is it absurd what these mainstream media people are saying?
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Because back in March, I know it got memory hold and we all forgot.
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Even the exalted Dr. Fauci, who was sitting opposite his interviewer, neither of them wearing masks.
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He said it would be stupid for people to walk around.
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At the moment that this thing was exploding, he said it would be stupid to wear a mask.
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Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.
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Because people are listening really closely to this.
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There's no reason to be walking around with a mask.
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So now, after the virus has already spread, that's when we need to wear masks.
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But when it was exploding in the country and we were trying to flatten the curve,
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Now it seems they're not effective again, but they're still telling us to wear them.
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There's only loss to be had if Trump wears the mask.
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It's rallied the base, which is what he's going to need to do in November.
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President Trump's campaign manager, Brad Parscale, tweeted out a picture of Trump wearing the mask.
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I can't believe he would promote this, this image that is going to be dispiriting to the
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base and it's going to be encouraging to Trump's most vociferous critics because they're
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going to take a victory lap and say, we were right, based on nothing, needlessly.
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But he tweeted it out and he said, hashtag America first.
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He should be tweeting out videos of Fauci in March telling people not to wear masks.
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Whoever advised him to do this is probably the reason why the rest of the messaging and
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the imaging right now and the campaigning is not going as well as it could be.
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The good news is Trump has been very strong in some other areas.
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He's been very strong on insisting that schools must reopen in the fall.
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We got to muzzle ourselves and wear masks all the time, even if the science is out on
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If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get hit by a truck.
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So at least on the school issue, he's full steam ahead.
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We're going to punish schools if they don't reopen.
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The left is furious, including the former Democratic vice presidential nominee, the man who was
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just one, almost one heartbeat away from becoming the second woman president, Senator Tim
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I am really, really distressed with the way the administration is handling this.
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The question is not whether schools will reopen.
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The question is, will they reopen online or in person or in some combination?
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Nobody believes that going online is reopening.
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And all the issues that go along with keeping the schools closed, like what parents are going
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to do with their kids, how they're going to arrange their work schedules, what quality
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of the education is going to be that the kids are receiving.
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So he gaslights at the beginning, denies the problem.
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And then, of course, he accuses Trump of promoting quack medicine.
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Who do parents of school-age kids trust to make that decision?
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Do they trust local principals and superintendents or school boards?
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Donald Trump wouldn't wear a mask until the sixth month of this crisis.
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Donald Trump makes his own supporters sign liability waivers before they attend campaign
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Who would the parents of school-age kids trust?
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Their own principals, superintendents, school board members, or Donald Trump?
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So the accusation is that Trump preaches quack medicine.
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Preaching is a word that is associated with religion.
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Not hardened, materialist, empirical medical science.
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But the way that the left is treating this virus,
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the way that the left is treating science generally,
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is in a religious way that is divorced from data,
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that can tell you that one protest is good for the virus,
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That can tell you one day don't wear the masks,
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Do you trust the people who've gotten it wrong from the beginning?
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Or do you trust Trump who has a much better record on it
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the government funding of the university system,
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not just for coronavirus or reopening or whatever,
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even though we've seen these silly stories last week
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about Harvard still charging students 50 grand a year
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because they are not fulfilling their educational mission.
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are about radical left indoctrination, not education.
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Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department
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if this propaganda or act against public policy continues.
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I think we've got to stop talking about the form
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And conservatives don't want to talk about the substance