The Michael Knowles Show - August 10, 2020


Ep. 594 - The Next Crusade


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

180.6387

Word Count

8,790

Sentence Count

666

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

As the secular left clamps down on religious life per se, are we going to join together or perish apart? We ll get into it on this morning's show with host Michael Knowles ( ) and special guest Elise Ring ( ).


Transcript

00:00:00.000 A well-known California pastor has had enough of the lockdown. He is going to defy the lockdown,
00:00:06.620 and he's got a great excuse, a very clever strategy for how he's going to do it.
00:00:11.760 Good morning, everyone. I'm so happy to welcome you to the Grace Community Church Peaceful Protest.
00:00:19.480 Thank you.
00:00:49.480 You're probably getting around some of the lockdown problems. You've got synagogues being targeted in New York,
00:00:56.120 and you've got a real question here. As the secular left, the Church of Wokeism, comes and clamps down on religious life per se,
00:01:05.620 are we going to join together, or are we going to perish apart? We'll get into it. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:10.600 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment from last Thursday, I was going through my Michael Knowles Show YouTube channel comments,
00:01:27.360 and my favorite one is this. This is actually a great point from BPatman, Ben BPatman, says,
00:01:33.860 is everyone saying that Biden has dementia, but in his defense, he was this stupid 30 years ago.
00:01:40.060 It's actually an important, you know, it's just obviously insulting Joe Biden, but it does make an important point.
00:01:45.080 It is simply a lie to pretend that Joe Biden was some brilliant, wonderful, great statesman 30 years ago,
00:01:52.180 and he has declined. He was always a doofus. He was always a liar. He was always a plagiarist.
00:01:57.380 He was always an empty suit, and he remains one today. He's just lost a few steps. He's lost more than a few steps.
00:02:05.440 He's showing obvious signs of cognitive decline, and the left is going to try to blame it on all sorts of things
00:02:11.620 going back to his childhood, but it's just not going to work, and we can go through that point by point.
00:02:16.040 It occurs to me also, you might notice if you're watching this show right now, I'm not in my usual studio.
00:02:21.020 It looks like I'm in a lovely sort of living room somewhere because I'm taking part in the Lincoln Fellowship
00:02:26.780 at the Claremont Institute, and, you know, basically you get a bunch of conservatives to come down for a week
00:02:31.480 and talk about kind of what conservatism means now, what freedom means now, specifically what religious liberty means now,
00:02:37.740 and how we can understand the American founding with all this insanity going on and people tearing down statues
00:02:43.520 and people burning the country.
00:02:45.000 And it occurred to me, specifically on this question of religious liberty, we've got a big fight moving forward.
00:02:52.940 I played that clip earlier of John MacArthur. I don't particularly like John MacArthur.
00:02:57.400 John MacArthur is probably the most anti-Catholic preacher in the entire country. He regularly misrepresents the faith,
00:03:03.120 so I'm not exactly given to liking this guy, but I like his protest. I like the fact that he is defying
00:03:10.660 this outrageous political overreach by the left. And there are a lot of pastors doing that. A lot of
00:03:18.000 Protestant pastors, a lot of mainline Protestant pastors, a lot of evangelical, a lot of Catholic
00:03:22.260 orders are working their ways around the lockdowns. A lot of Jewish groups are being targeted in New York,
00:03:30.500 for that matter, right, to build a Blasio. You know, it seems like every, his angriest tweets during the whole
00:03:35.800 COVID lockdown are just to threaten Jews and say he's going to shut down synagogues permanently.
00:03:41.060 What does this mean? This is something we've been talking about as we've been examining the
00:03:45.180 founding of this country. The founding fathers did not want an established church, right? The First
00:03:51.320 Amendment says there will not be an established church at the national level. A lot of people
00:03:57.080 mistakenly took this to mean that this was either a total separation of church and state, or even
00:04:02.660 worse, that our government was secular. But our government, that is just a lie. That is a total
00:04:07.880 20th century fiction. Lock that away with the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny. The founders had a very
00:04:15.060 sophisticated view of religion, and we are seeing the fruit right now of not heeding their warning. But
00:04:20.240 we do know what to do. We'll get to that in one second. First, however, I've got to thank our friends
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00:05:45.520 as we've been talking about the Founding Fathers, is their view on a church, right? This is not a
00:05:51.040 total separation of church and state. This is not a preference for secularism, God forbid. There's no
00:05:57.060 established church at the national level, in part actually because there were established churches
00:06:00.780 at the state level. Various states had established churches, but they had different kinds of churches.
00:06:05.620 And obviously there were a lot of different religions in America. One thing we've been discussing
00:06:10.480 is that the view of the Founders would have been that at the national level, one single
00:06:14.340 established religion would be tyrannical. You've only got one, right? One church at that level,
00:06:19.200 in the American idea. Two religions would lead inevitably to civil war. You've got these two
00:06:26.720 religions contending against one another, not going to last very long, not very well. Look around
00:06:31.400 the Middle East, you see two major religious groups, what happens? It doesn't go great.
00:06:35.620 But many religions, you have peace. That's one way the Founders thought about religion,
00:06:43.780 and it seems counterintuitive. One religion, tyrannical, two religions, civil war, lots of
00:06:47.860 religions, peace. Because you're not going to take one particular preference over another,
00:06:53.920 you're not going to, you know, you're going to be so distracted with all the different religions.
00:06:57.620 However, and really when we say that, we mostly mean all the different varieties of Christianity,
00:07:04.340 mostly Protestantism, but Catholicism as well. And Judaism. George Washington writes a famous letter
00:07:10.780 to a Jewish congregation. But that's not what we have right now. What it occurs to me we have right
00:07:17.360 now is two broadly competing religious ideas. That is religion and atheism, secularism, leftism,
00:07:25.180 whatever you want to call it. Those are the competing religious ideas right now. And secularism
00:07:30.860 has advanced and advanced and advanced to the point that they're now trying to trap us into a
00:07:34.780 tiny little corner where maybe we can have a little tiny bit of religious liberty, but that's it.
00:07:38.840 And while we're all busy fighting amongst ourselves, they are going to back us into that
00:07:42.940 corner. We can't have that happen, okay? We have to realize the Founders despised atheism. It was one of
00:07:48.240 the worst things you could call people. There were, there were many social mores and even laws going
00:07:54.240 back all the way to the earliest parts of the country against atheism, what we would now call
00:07:58.960 secularism. Our Founders talked at length about how you need a religious people, like an actual
00:08:04.600 traditionally religious people to have a freedom to have our society. And right now those religious
00:08:10.000 people are on the brink of extinction because the secular government is telling us we can't even go to
00:08:14.400 church anymore without being arrested. Can't have that. What we need is some unity, okay? We need
00:08:21.280 some solidarity here in the country among religious people of all stripes, maybe invoking some of the
00:08:26.900 same ideas we had at the founding of this country. In many ways, we could try to bring back the founding
00:08:32.500 ideas of this country. That's going to be the religious battle, though. That's going to be the
00:08:36.020 religious crusade. And I think we're going to have to stand together. We're going to have to join or die,
00:08:41.120 as Ben Franklin said. We're going to have to stand together or we're all going to fall, fall down on
00:08:46.040 our own. Speaking of misrepresenting Catholicism in particular and religion generally, the Lincoln
00:08:53.660 Project. You know, the Lincoln Project, it's this group of Democrat advisor, con men, political
00:08:58.560 consultants who are basically milking Democratic small dollar donors for everything they're worth
00:09:03.720 and pretending that they're going to kick Donald Trump out of the GOP or something. A total con.
00:09:09.700 They just posted a tweet on this question of religion over the weekend. They said,
00:09:14.220 Joe Biden is a devout Catholic and regularly attends Sunday service.
00:09:17.760 The last time Trump went to church, he gassed peaceful Americans.
00:09:21.780 Now, so a lot of problems here. One, Catholics don't refer to Sunday service.
00:09:28.980 Catholics go to mass. If the Lincoln Project knew anything about what they were talking about,
00:09:33.020 they would know that distinction. Beyond that, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic.
00:09:36.440 Joe Biden is endorsed by Planned Parenthood. Joe Biden was denied the Eucharist, the communion,
00:09:42.520 at a church not so long ago. Joe Biden is an apostate from his faith who was rightly denied the
00:09:48.980 Eucharist. There's nothing devout about it, but you see the left all the time. They pretend Nancy
00:09:53.660 Pelosi. Actually, they say she's also a devout Catholic or Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo lit up
00:09:59.140 buildings in New York City pink to celebrate the wholesale slaughter of children. Okay, not a Catholic.
00:10:06.440 Now, Christian, we cannot let them get away with this kind of thing. We need to call it out for
00:10:11.480 what it is. And some pastors and some bishops and some priests are doing that now. We need a lot
00:10:17.680 more of that. The idea had always been this. Back away from the religious questions. Don't have the
00:10:23.240 religious people attack the civil authorities. Don't talk about politics. And then maybe they'll
00:10:28.460 leave us these little crumbs of religious liberty. They're not doing that. Okay, they're suing
00:10:32.660 nuns, for goodness sakes. They're not going to do that. You've got to get tougher. You're going to
00:10:36.960 lose the whole game. And even if Joe Biden were a devout Catholic, which he's not, but even if he
00:10:44.000 were, he would not be protecting your liberty because Joe Biden can't form a coherent sentence.
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00:12:09.880 So even if Joe Biden did want to protect our most cherished liberties, he probably wouldn't be able
00:12:14.280 to do it because he more or less can only campaign on a rhetorical platform of gibberish.
00:12:21.500 Take a listen to the latest.
00:12:24.340 1.2 billion. So you go ahead and you stack spaghetti sauce at a store and in a supermarket,
00:12:30.220 you control the guy or the woman who runs the run, brings out the carts on a forklift.
00:12:37.240 What happened? Yeah, that's the guy who's going to defend all of our liberties and bring us back
00:12:44.500 to a sophisticated understanding of checks and balances in the American. I don't think so.
00:12:50.240 I think he's rambling incoherently about spaghetti sauce. And it's not just one isolated incident.
00:12:58.640 We've played many on this show. The Trump campaign right now is a devastating ad. The ad
00:13:02.500 doesn't include any people openly attacking Joe Biden. The ad is just a comparison of Joe Biden
00:13:09.520 in 2008 and Joe Biden in 2020. Don't forget, they're blaming right now. The Democrats are
00:13:13.840 saying, oh, these attacks on Joe Biden, it's just about his childhood stutter. He hasn't lost a step.
00:13:18.600 He's still totally with it. You sure about that? Take a listen.
00:13:22.440 You ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration
00:13:27.160 has made them better off in the last eight years. And in addition to that, we have to
00:13:36.120 make sure that we are in a position that we are. We can insure every single solitary kid.
00:13:43.520 2008. Catastrophic health insurance right off the bat. We can do that for the cost of
00:13:48.320 the just one thing, the tax cut for people in the top one percent.
00:13:52.380 2020. You got to give them to the people who are going to spend the money. You got to deal
00:14:03.120 with making sure American companies can be competitive and have a health care plan that doesn't put
00:14:07.620 them at a disadvantage when they compete overseas. You know, there's a during World War Two, you
00:14:14.260 know, where Roosevelt came up with a thing that, you know, was totally different than a than
00:14:21.260 the score. He called the, you know, what happened to Joe Biden? That's the only question at the end
00:14:29.180 of the ad. It's undeniable. I what the media like to do now with the Democrats like to do is memory
00:14:34.640 hole everything that happened more than five minutes ago. So you just don't remember. They
00:14:37.800 don't show you clips of Joe Biden, even in 2008. Forget about 1998, 1988, 1978. The guy's been around a
00:14:44.440 long time. It's not a childhood stutter. Okay. He's lost a step. He's lost more than a step.
00:14:51.560 He's forgetting where he is. He's forgetting what his name is. And I, Trump has received some
00:14:57.900 criticism. The campaign has received criticism for going on this line of attack. Part of that is
00:15:04.020 people think that we're setting expectations too low here as conservatives. We should, we should
00:15:08.580 let people see what's going on at the debates and make a judgment for themselves. The trouble is the
00:15:13.540 left is openly trying not to debate. And the Biden campaign is saying we want to debate, but that's BS
00:15:18.820 because all the people around the Biden campaign who are buoying up his entire candidacy are doing
00:15:23.960 their damnedest to cancel these debates. The New York Times, left-wing columnists, left-wing TV show
00:15:29.340 hosts, even comedy hosts, even people in the general popular culture don't want Biden on that debate
00:15:35.380 stage. Here's Jimmy Fallon, right? His mainstream, a kind of center-left comedian as you get,
00:15:40.460 saying, oh, come on already. Who needs debates?
00:15:43.760 Speaking of the president, his campaign wants to make some changes to the debate schedule.
00:15:48.700 Normally, there's just three, but check out what they're proposing.
00:15:51.640 The Trump campaign is asking for a fourth presidential debate to be held
00:15:55.200 in the first week of September to get ahead of early voting.
00:15:57.880 Oh, my God, we're debating about the debates? They haven't even started. I'm already exhausted.
00:16:03.900 At this point, who even needs debates? Who is undecided? Who's tuning in like,
00:16:08.640 oh, I want to see what this Donald Trump guy's all about?
00:16:12.140 Then I'll make my mind up. I need at least three debates.
00:16:16.600 I haven't figured out who I'm going for yet.
00:16:19.380 Then once I do, after the third debate, maybe the fourth one, then I'll listen.
00:16:23.500 Uh, actually, I don't mind another debate as long as it's just Trump naming things he sees in the
00:16:28.020 room. Podium, moderator, Biden, camera, TV. That's the last day for that joke.
00:16:36.700 Notice who was missing from that riff? I don't even, I won't even call it a joke.
00:16:40.700 It wasn't particularly funny. He heard some groans out in the audience.
00:16:44.060 Joe Biden was missing. It was all about Trump. The whole thing, right? He says,
00:16:49.360 is there anyone out there who doesn't have his mind made up about Trump? Well,
00:16:52.080 what about people who want to make up their mind about Biden either? You're not just voting against
00:16:56.020 somebody. You have a candidate. The Democrats don't really have a candidate. They have this
00:16:59.960 empty shell of a man who can't remember his own name and who's an empty, who's been an empty suit
00:17:03.760 from the beginning. And what they want you to believe is that this election is only about Donald
00:17:09.600 Trump, but it's not. Elections are choices. They're binary choices in America. If you vote against
00:17:15.560 Donald Trump, that means you're voting for Joe Biden. Does anybody really think Joe Biden can,
00:17:20.280 can be president is competent, is fit to be president? I never thought he was, but he certainly
00:17:26.960 isn't now. I mean, just at a very practical managerial level, the man does not appear to
00:17:32.760 have his wits about him, whatever those wits were. So if, if you make it about those two guys,
00:17:39.420 I think Trump wins. Is Trump's pitch for the last few days is don't forget that last few days,
00:17:44.860 last few weeks, at least is we need order. We need law and order. We need some stability in this
00:17:49.340 country. I'm a competent man. I'm an adult. I've got my wits about me. I'm not a child.
00:17:54.520 And then there's Joe Biden, you know, who's, who's kind of watching television or something
00:17:58.860 in his basement, not even campaigning, not even knowing what this campaign is about.
00:18:02.600 Don't let them do this to you. Don't let them, this is part of the reason why they,
00:18:06.200 they want to cancel the debates is they want to keep it about Trump for as long as possible.
00:18:10.300 Don't let them do it because they're going to gaslight you on it too. I kid you not. I was
00:18:15.420 unfortunately watching some CNN over the weekend. I've been traveling a little bit. So you're in an
00:18:21.420 airport. That's, that is the time you watch CNN and Brian Stelter had the audacity to suggest on
00:18:28.680 his show with a number of guests that the Biden campaign is being treated unfairly because of the
00:18:35.260 media. The mainstream media are too pro Trump. Take a listen.
00:18:42.840 If you look at like the 1990s and the way that Rush Limbaugh and others sort of sharpened their
00:18:47.520 teeth on Bill Clinton, this has been the way they've built audiences for three decades now.
00:18:52.560 Yeah. I don't want to claim it's new. I just am arguing that it's getting worse.
00:18:55.780 It's getting more severe. Aaron, your view of this, you know, when you see entire media companies
00:19:02.600 essentially exist to tear down Joe Biden, is there an equivalent to that on the left tearing down
00:19:07.520 Trump? There really isn't. And you know, what I would say it's a, it's really a diet of this type
00:19:14.460 of information that a lot of these voters are getting. A lot of the voters that I talk to, I can,
00:19:19.600 you know, when I interview them, I do hear them saying a lot of the talking points that sound very
00:19:24.220 familiar from, from some of these shows, which I try to listen to when I'm out on the campaign trail
00:19:28.620 or when I'm at home, you know, watching TV, you know, you can, you can hear these, uh, these
00:19:32.840 comments being echoed, uh, by, by voters. And you know that this is the diet that they're on,
00:19:37.060 uh, you know, AM radio, uh, you know, conservative talk, uh, also social media. I mean, the Trump
00:19:43.160 campaign is running a full blown campaign on social media that is completely off the radar for,
00:19:48.180 for a lot of, a lot of, uh, you know, regular media, uh, is not covering this.
00:19:52.140 So there, there is a media company dedicated to going after Joe Biden. Is there anything
00:19:58.020 like that on the left dedicated to going after Donald Trump other than ABC, NBC, CBS, which had
00:20:06.260 over 92% negative coverage of Donald Trump from the beginning or the New York times or the Washington
00:20:11.760 post or MSNBC or CNN or, or the whole media, the entire, the entire mainstream media.
00:20:22.140 Have been hysterically anti-Trump from day one. And before that they were anti-Bush. And before,
00:20:29.160 before that there, I guess they're anti-Romney, then anti-McCain, then anti-Bush, then anti-Dole.
00:20:33.520 Then they've been anti-Republican from the beginning, especially anti-Trump. They've spread
00:20:37.160 ridiculous conspiracy theories about him, like that he's a, a Moscow spy who's a, you know, a stooge and
00:20:44.640 a traitor to Russia. Or, or they, they said they didn't pay any of his taxes. It completely made up.
00:20:49.680 Or they said he was actually working for Ukraine or they colluding with them. Or he all just is
00:20:55.520 ridiculous nonsense. And they say, they say worse things, by the way, they talk about, I mean,
00:21:01.400 they, they suggest that he's, he's, you know, a creep and a lech and a this and a that, and he's a
00:21:07.600 rapist and a this, this and a that. I mean, they say all these sorts of terrible things.
00:21:11.780 And then they come back, they say, yeah, the media, they're just so, they're just so against
00:21:16.080 Biden. Listen to what they cite. They say, yeah, there's right-wing talk radio.
00:21:22.160 Rush Limbaugh. Okay. You get the entire media apparatus is pro-Biden and you've got Rush Limbaugh.
00:21:27.660 He's pro-Trump basically, right? Rush Limbaugh kind of is talk radio. Then everybody else is kind
00:21:32.280 of falls within that umbrella. Or they say, yeah, Trump's making these posts on social media.
00:21:36.700 Oh, the campaign is using social media. Are we, we're still allowed to do that, please. Right?
00:21:43.740 Is that okay? Republicans are still allowed to campaign on social media. The Biden campaign
00:21:47.740 is campaigning on social media. They don't mention that. So are they just liars? Are they gaslighting
00:21:53.720 us? Yeah, probably. They do gaslight us all the time. Because, oh my gosh, not only are the left-wing
00:22:01.720 media attacking Trump and attacking Trump supporters, there are actually media watchdogs,
00:22:06.200 many of whom I'm sure are watching this show right now, who are groups like Media Matters or
00:22:10.480 Right Wing Watch or all these kind of political operative organizations that pretend to be 501c3
00:22:15.080 nonprofits that exist just to not only take out Republican politicians, but to take out even
00:22:20.340 Republican commentators, people talking about it. So we've got the media attacking us and we've got
00:22:25.480 the media watchdogs attacking us. You've got all these sort of things. So they're gaslighting us on
00:22:30.700 one hand. But to give Stelter and the Democrats the benefit of the doubt, let's say they're not lying
00:22:34.460 for a second. It actually is plausible that they don't realize that the whole media are pro-Biden
00:22:40.700 and anti-Trump. And the reason for that is the same reason that you and I are not aware of the
00:22:44.720 air that we walk around in and fish are not aware of the water that they swim around in. It's the whole
00:22:50.920 culture. When we talk about fake news, we're not just talking about one or two fake stories in the
00:22:56.280 New York Times, though there are many fake stories in the New York Times, prominent ones.
00:22:59.360 It's the whole culture. The thing that makes them fake news is that they pretend they're news.
00:23:05.560 They're not news. They're not objective. They're partisan hacks who pretend to be news and get
00:23:11.900 certain benefits for that, but who are merely operatives, mouthpieces for the Democratic Party,
00:23:18.940 and now specifically for Joe Biden, the candidate. I think a lot of people on the left are not aware
00:23:25.620 of that. So it is possible that they're that oblivious. They might just be lying to us, too.
00:23:29.940 Maybe it's a little bit of both, and maybe that's what we're going to see more of through November.
00:23:35.660 You know, I think even we, even we conservatives, even people who take a listen to this show,
00:23:40.740 who listen to the various examples of this, sometimes forget how crazy the culture has gotten.
00:23:46.340 And then we get reminded, University of Georgia has just issued a mandate to students,
00:23:53.560 some guidance on how to move forward during COVID. Do you think the guidance was on how they can
00:23:58.840 continue to learn, how they can take notes, how they can go to class while protecting themselves?
00:24:03.860 No. The guidance was about how when these teenagers have sex, they should wear masks when they have
00:24:13.000 sex. It's not a joke. Here's the guidance. Consider wearing a face mask during sex.
00:24:18.840 Heavy breathing and panting can further spread the virus, and wearing a mask can reduce the risk.
00:24:26.700 So, I mean, that's all true. I guess that's right. But do you remember when universities were
00:24:34.240 in loco parentis, when they were, when, you know, they would kick the girls out of the dorms at
00:24:39.740 9 p.m., or actually before that when education was single sex, because you were discouraged from
00:24:46.000 having sex in the culture broadly outside of marriage, and certainly at universities with all
00:24:50.320 these. Now, the university is giving you tips on how to get kinky with the co-eds. They're encouraging
00:24:57.520 you to do it. And then, but that's kind of, you know, perfectly natural, you might say.
00:25:02.380 But then the next part is even, even wilder. They say, quote, you are your safest sex partner.
00:25:10.260 Practice solo sex or limit the number of sexual partners you have. So, so limit the number of,
00:25:18.220 like, hey, they can't tell you to, you know, maybe cool it and keep your modesty and virtue because
00:25:25.380 that, they call that slut shaving. So they say, would you mind maybe limiting the number of sexual
00:25:30.120 partners? You know, no more than three or four a day, please. And please practice solo sex. What
00:25:34.440 is solo sex? So I believe Woody Allen defined it as sex with someone who loves you. When it's just
00:25:43.340 you and, you know, you turn the blinds down and you go into your own room. In any case, that's a real
00:25:49.000 inversion of the culture. For the vast majority of the history of this country, sex outside of marriage
00:25:55.860 would be discouraged. Sex among teenagers who are off at college would be discouraged. Masturbation
00:26:01.380 would be discouraged. But we now have a new, a new kind of religious worldview, a new morality.
00:26:09.800 And we pretend that it's just the absence of religion. We pretend that it's totally neutral,
00:26:14.680 but it's not. There's nothing neutral about encouraging teenagers to have sex with one another.
00:26:18.500 There's nothing neutral about encouraging masturbation with kind of silly euphemisms and things like that.
00:26:23.580 That, that is another religious view. That's the religious view of the secular left.
00:26:28.700 And we're, we are coming to a head in this religious war. Cardinal Manning, I mentioned the
00:26:32.660 quote on the show all the time because it's so true. At bottom, all human conflict is theological.
00:26:37.640 And those are two theologies. Those are two religious views of the world. Which one do you want to live
00:26:44.700 in? One is very tempting. You know, all this kind of indulgent behavior is very fun. There's a,
00:26:51.520 there's a reason that it's so tempting, but is the, is that what's going to make a good society?
00:26:55.580 Is that what's going to make us good, good people as individuals? Or are we going to come to regret
00:26:59.860 that? You know, it's, it's always fun to have a lot of drinks at the time. It's always funny. You
00:27:04.460 know, okay, I'll have one more, you know, five drinks later, but then you have the hangover the
00:27:08.320 next day. We've got a bit of a cultural hangover right now. And going back, reading those founding
00:27:13.000 fathers, you notice there's a big difference they make between liberty and licentiousness.
00:27:17.860 Liberty, where exercising your freedom in the true sense of that, raising ourselves up,
00:27:23.560 leading to human flourishing, and licentiousness, which is outright discouraged or banned or talked
00:27:29.460 about as sort of the, the end of, of free government. Licentiousness, where you just follow
00:27:34.120 your own appetites, do whatever you want. Well, now we've got a culture that I, it seems to me that
00:27:39.760 the Christian culture that founded this country promoted liberty and ordered liberty. And this current
00:27:45.340 religion of secular wokeism is promoting nothing other than licentiousness. You want to see how
00:27:50.340 creepy this gets? Hasbro. They make toys. Hasbro. Just made a new toy called the Trolls World Tour
00:27:59.240 Giggle and Sing Poppy. This is a doll that, that, you know, you push a button, like all these little
00:28:05.200 toys, right? You push a button, it makes a sound. So where's the button? Well, it's this little troll
00:28:10.340 girl, obviously like a child, and she's got a button on her stomach and you push the button on
00:28:15.340 her stomach and she makes a sound. She's got another button. They put another button in between her
00:28:21.680 legs. And when you push that button, she makes, she makes disturbing sound. The button itself is
00:28:28.340 disturbingly placed in the, the sounds she makes are disturbing too. Take a listen to one parent who
00:28:33.420 bought this toy and discovered this creepy pervy button. So I just touched her tummy. She's going
00:28:40.260 to sing for a minute, but down here is a button right here on her privates. And if you push those,
00:28:48.660 she makes these sounds, like a gasping sound. That is yucky. That is yucky and creepy and weird.
00:29:08.180 It's so funny. You, you hear about all these conspiracy theories that always float around the
00:29:12.940 internet of international pedophile rings and this pedophile culture, right? And then people say,
00:29:18.360 oh, that's like a crazy conspiracy theory. And, and, uh, you know, no, there's no way that there's
00:29:23.160 this international pedophile ring that involves heads of state and prime ministers and members of
00:29:26.760 the Royal family. And they go to a Caribbean Island and say, oh, wait a second. Yeah. Yikes.
00:29:30.360 Right. And then now forget about that. And it's hard for me to imagine that that was an accident
00:29:36.880 with that toy doll. I'm not saying there's some, some group somewhere, some conspiracy group of like
00:29:43.740 the Illuminati, you know, who's making all these kinds of weird pedophile things, but it is evidence
00:29:48.400 of a, of a broken sexual culture that anyone at any point would think that that is acceptable to
00:29:55.460 have a little button in on the doll right there where you push it. And, and the doll makes those
00:30:01.100 sounds and then kids are going to get those. That is some creepy, creepy stuff. And it,
00:30:07.340 it, it makes you understand that this debate we're having right now on the left and the right,
00:30:13.740 it comes down to a kind of cultural and religious point. We used to just debate over tax rates. That
00:30:18.880 was kind of eighties, nineties conservatism. It's like, yeah, we're going to lower taxes
00:30:22.260 a lot more. Yeah. Well, if you elect us again, we'll lower taxes even more. And I look, I like low
00:30:28.060 taxes, but that's not motivating people. There's a cultural and religious issue. Gives you a lot of,
00:30:32.180 a lot of respect for the young kids who are a little bit more traditional, who are saying
00:30:36.420 something here, seriously broken. We'll get into that. We'll get into specifically, by the way,
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00:32:22.600 When you see creepy things like that troll doll, it starts to give you a little bit more of an
00:32:28.580 understanding of these 18 year old traditionalist kids who are anti-porn. Do you remember at the end
00:32:34.500 of last year, I guess it was December, January, we were having this debate on the right over whether
00:32:39.060 to ban porn or to regulate porn. And, you know, some people said we got to ban it outright.
00:32:44.800 And some people were aghast. They said, Oh my gosh, no porn is a blessing of Liberty. We love porn.
00:32:50.620 So George Washington would roll over in his grave if you ban porn. And you might say it's impractical to
00:32:57.160 ban porn. But as a matter of principle, I don't think any of the founders would have had a problem
00:33:01.080 with that. Makes you understand them. Cause you look at this completely insane, broken sexual culture
00:33:05.400 where you've got, you've got university administrators whose job it is to encourage
00:33:10.280 teenagers to, to fornicate and masturbate. And they're sending out guidelines about this and
00:33:15.480 toy makers who are making pervert child sex dolls. You don't want to live in that culture,
00:33:21.200 do you? And one line you always heard in that, in that whole porn debate was that these more
00:33:26.340 traditionalist kids who were overwhelmingly young teenagers or early twenties, that they were
00:33:30.800 hypocrites because you know what? I bet some of them have looked at porn before. I bet some of them
00:33:34.640 have looked at naked ladies on the internet. See, they're hypocrites. We don't need to listen to
00:33:38.000 them. That's not hypocrisy. The fact that we live in this highly pornographic culture where we move
00:33:45.640 around it, like we move through the air or fish move through the water. Maybe that's a reason why
00:33:52.220 these, especially these young kids are so anti-porn because they've lived with it. They know
00:33:59.180 not only the temptation of it, but they know the awful effects of it. Awful effects on young men,
00:34:04.420 awful effects on young women. You know, it causes men to have sexual problems. It's led to an increase
00:34:10.540 in bizarre sex, sometimes violent sex, completely disordered sexual expectations. Obviously lots
00:34:19.660 of sexual regret, which is what's led to what's called the epidemic of campus rape.
00:34:26.840 You know, what we hear now is that one in four women will be raped on campus as though Harvard
00:34:30.820 Yard is as dangerous as downtown Fallujah. That's not exactly what's going on here, right? I can't imagine
00:34:36.200 that's true. I don't see evidence of that. What's really going on though is we have this insane
00:34:40.520 broken sexual culture. And so people are very confused and have different expectations and lots
00:34:45.480 and lots of shame and regret. The fact that some of these 18 year old kids, you know, if you're 18
00:34:50.980 right now, you never grew, you grew up in a world that always had high speed internet and this kind
00:34:58.080 of ubiquitous porn and all this stuff. Maybe, maybe that informs your opinion. Maybe, maybe these kids
00:35:04.620 have lived through it and they say, yeah, that's bad. We shouldn't, we shouldn't have so much of this.
00:35:08.180 We should not encourage this. We are, we are learning from the children out of the mouths
00:35:13.140 of babes, I suppose. Meanwhile, you see child, childish temper tantrums all around the country,
00:35:20.600 people burning down the country, tearing down statues, screaming, shrieking. And president Trump
00:35:25.120 just made an explicit appeal on this point. He was giving a press conference and he was describing
00:35:33.080 the green new deal. This is a left-wing policy. They've been pushing for it now for a few years.
00:35:38.060 Massive, would totally overhaul society. Has very little to do with the environment,
00:35:41.740 the natural environment, has much more to do with socialism and the redistribution of wealth
00:35:46.720 and reparations for slavery and all this kind of nonsense. And he came out and he said, you know,
00:35:51.200 the green new deal is for children and I'm the adult in the room.
00:35:56.160 You look at what they want to do. They want to raise everybody's taxes, everybody. And they want to do
00:36:02.120 the green new deal, which will decimate our country and decimate. It's ridiculous too. It's childish.
00:36:07.100 I actually say the green new deal is childish. It's for children. It's not for adults.
00:36:14.600 Anybody that believes in that is, I don't know, maybe it's politics. I don't even think it's good
00:36:20.840 politics. They seem to think so. We'll see how they do. Is it good politics? I don't think it is
00:36:26.740 for the left. I think this is an important theme that since the Trump campaign has kind of righted the
00:36:31.460 ship they've been picking up on, which is law and order, right? We are going to restore law and order.
00:36:37.800 The last few months have been an insane temper tantrum. Trump is the adult in the room and he's
00:36:42.180 going to take charge. And I think that's a successful message for the Trump campaign.
00:36:46.680 And he's taking it not just on making fun of the green new deal. He's putting forward
00:36:49.900 affirmative policies. So we've been waiting for another COVID relief package. Remember the last one
00:36:54.600 spent two to three trillion levered up to six trillion and it got us through four months,
00:36:59.240 sort of. It didn't even really do that. We're kind of hobbling away and the economy is in freefall.
00:37:04.080 So the Senate can't agree with the House on a deal and the House Democrats can't agree with the Senate
00:37:08.380 Republicans. So Trump just came out, issued executive orders on COVID relief. And the plan
00:37:13.560 includes some good policy, some bad policy. Take a listen to the announcement.
00:37:20.160 Democrats are obstructing all of it. Therefore, I'm taking executive action. We've had it.
00:37:25.900 And we're going to save American jobs and provide relief to the American workers. And I'll be signing
00:37:32.160 these bills in a very short period of time. First one is I'm providing a payroll tax holiday
00:37:39.620 to Americans earning less than $100,000 per year. In a few moments, I will sign a directive instructing
00:37:49.040 the Treasury Department to allow employers to defer payment of the employee portion of certain payroll
00:37:55.580 taxes from September 1st. And we're actually going to be making that. We just got the word. We're just
00:38:02.160 getting some word from a lot of people. We didn't think we'd have to do this because we thought the
00:38:07.480 Democrats would be reasonable, but they've been not only unreasonable, they've been ridiculous.
00:38:13.060 They have been ridiculous. Payroll tax holiday is a great idea. A lot of Republicans have been
00:38:18.380 calling for that. The thing that's nice about it is it gives workers some money because you pay part
00:38:22.860 of your payroll tax, but it also gives employers an incentive to hire you back because it gives the
00:38:28.280 employers a little bit of a cut. They pay part of the payroll tax. So it makes perfect sense. It's a great
00:38:32.740 idea. Love that policy. I love that Trump did it. Also, some of Trump's executive order is going to
00:38:38.800 protect renters from evictions. So obviously it puts people who own property in a tough position,
00:38:45.340 but what are you going to do? You're going to evict people. They haven't done it yet, so I don't know
00:38:48.360 that you had to issue a guidance on that. And then expands unemployment benefits by $400 per week,
00:38:54.800 25% of which could be covered by the states. I like the idea that the states have to cover some of it
00:38:58.620 because they've been clamoring for this. I don't like the idea that you're incentivizing people
00:39:01.940 to stay out of work. And that's really what this is doing. If you pay people more money than they
00:39:06.400 would ordinarily get paid to work, to not work, what are people going to do? They're going to not
00:39:11.660 work. There was a Cato study that showed that a full two-thirds of people on the COVID unemployment
00:39:17.460 benefits have made more money than they otherwise would have made working. And a full one-third of
00:39:22.040 people made double. And not a good situation. I don't begrudge people their extra $400 a week or
00:39:29.560 whatever the deal, $600 a week before this. But you're playing into the Democratic hands of
00:39:36.120 giving people a reason not to go back to work. I think Trump wants to seem like Daddy Warbucks here.
00:39:42.040 He wants to seem like Santa Claus and like he really cares about the people and he's not beholden
00:39:46.260 to old libertarian stodgy ideologies. Fine, I see all of that. But you've got what now? 80 some odd
00:39:52.360 days until the election? You've got to incentivize people to go back to work. You keep paying out $400
00:39:59.380 per week. That's not going to do a whole lot. It took us what? It was $6 trillion total to get us
00:40:05.620 through four months. That's $18 trillion a year if we were to just keep trying to stimulate the
00:40:09.460 economy all the way through COVID. At the rate that GDP is falling, we won't even have $18 trillion
00:40:15.580 even if we took everybody's money. Can't do that. Got to just push to reopen. And by the way, the
00:40:21.680 American people would be on Trump's side. There's a video that went viral over the weekend
00:40:25.120 of a bunch of good old-fashioned patriots who were at a pro-police rally and a bunch of Antifa
00:40:33.920 thugs, organized leftist vandals came up and started harassing not just a regular ordinary
00:40:39.400 protester, but a guy in a wheelchair. It did not end very well for Antifa.
00:40:43.820 You hear them say, yeah, F you, you communist scum.
00:41:02.820 I mean, these Antifa guys are all wearing black. They're in full, right? They're an organized
00:41:10.880 group.
00:41:11.620 Bye-bye. Go home. Bye-bye. Oh, s**t. Here we go.
00:41:17.320 S**t. I'm good. I'm good.
00:41:20.040 There goes the brawl.
00:41:21.120 Antifa about to get tangled. Oh, my.
00:41:24.760 Oh, my. And it unfortunately turns violent. These Antifa people had weapons on them, by the
00:41:29.500 way. And so they're coming out. They're harassing this guy in the wheelchair. Initially, they're
00:41:34.440 just being chased out of town. Then it seems to turn into a brawl. Finally, finally, the
00:41:39.400 cops get there and the Antifa people start throwing punches at the cops, which is just
00:41:43.700 not a good idea, Antifa people.
00:41:47.180 This is, we were talking about porn earlier. That is porn to the American people.
00:41:51.480 Watching a bunch of patriots not take it from violent leftist thugs and then watching then
00:41:56.880 those violent leftist thugs get arrested, that is like porn. That is a crack for the
00:42:00.940 American people. Because no matter what stupid nonsense you see on the mainstream media, which
00:42:05.900 pretends that the media are left-wing and they lament how, or they pretend that the media
00:42:10.540 are right-wing, rather, and they lament how there's no left-wing media, even as they're
00:42:14.120 on CNN, no matter what they say, the American people are normal. Mostly normal. They like their
00:42:22.180 liberty. They like their cherished traditions. They don't like it when leftist thugs harass people
00:42:25.380 in wheelchairs. They don't like that. Okay? It does show you a lesson that, first of all,
00:42:29.840 if the cops are not going to enforce order, if the civil authority is not going to enforce order,
00:42:33.340 then civilians are going to do it. We don't like vigilante justice in this country, but someone,
00:42:39.120 someone will impose order. Who's that going to be? I don't think Antifa is turning out very well
00:42:45.340 for the left. I don't think BLM, trained Marxists, are working very well for the left. Actually,
00:42:54.160 the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, completely derelicted his duty. He's let that city go up
00:43:00.620 in flames. But he recently did an interview and he said, stop it. Stop being so violent.
00:43:06.460 You're giving the Trump campaign the ads that they want.
00:43:09.480 This is a political point, so it's a little out of field. Don't think for a moment that you are,
00:43:17.820 if you are participating in this activity, that you are not being a prop for the re-election campaign
00:43:25.300 of Donald Trump, because you absolutely are. You are creating the B-roll film that will be used in
00:43:32.460 ads nationally to help Donald Trump during his campaign. You don't want to be part of that,
00:43:38.920 then don't show up. That's true, but I don't really understand why Mayor Wheeler thinks that
00:43:46.580 it's illegitimate for the right to just film the left doing what they do. Oh, you're playing into the
00:43:55.660 nefarious hands of the Trump campaign by letting them film you doing what you do. It's not like
00:44:02.660 the Trump campaign is making this stuff up. They're just turning on the cameras and letting it play
00:44:06.880 out. This kind of violence in the streets. You notice it's not about one issue or another,
00:44:12.160 right? They're not doing this over COVID or something. The heads of BLMs, they were trained
00:44:16.800 Marxists. What is Marxism? Marxism is the most widespread, pernicious, atheist ideology dedicated
00:44:28.140 to the overthrow of Western civilization that we have ever seen. That's what it is, and we fought
00:44:34.100 a whole Cold War against it. It seems like we haven't totally beaten it out. These issues are not
00:44:38.720 just at the political level. They're not even just at the cultural level. Like Cardinal Manning says,
00:44:42.560 they get down to a religious level as well. You're either on the right side or the wrong side.
00:44:49.920 You're with the angels or you're with the devils. You're with me or against me, to quote scripture.
00:44:55.260 Which side are you on? We can all sit around. I notice this with conservatives. Conservatives
00:45:00.300 always like to sit around and, you know, you could get a room of a hundred conservatives and
00:45:04.840 every single one of them would be a different kind of conservative and all they would want to do is
00:45:08.980 argue about which kind of conservative they are and you'd have the libertarians yelling at
00:45:12.520 the traditionalists and all this kind of stuff. Hostilities are never so hot as when they are
00:45:19.260 within a religion. Intra-religious debates are always much hotter than inter-religious debate.
00:45:26.720 And I bring up religion here too because it's not just about the politics. It's about the religion.
00:45:31.160 I think we are going to have to band together as people who broadly support our cherished traditions,
00:45:39.280 our institutions, our rights, our liberties, our culture, our forefathers, and ultimately our God.
00:45:46.020 We're going to have to band together and get past all of our differences because there is a
00:45:52.300 cold religious civil war going on right now between religion and the secular left and not religion.
00:46:00.880 And when you read those founders whose statues the left is toppling down right now,
00:46:06.620 they all feared that this day would come and they knew that the republic could not withstand it.
00:46:12.860 That is the choice in the election and there is a choice. It's not just all about Trump or President
00:46:17.160 Trump's personality. And ironically, President Trump, who the left always calls so childish,
00:46:22.500 he may be the adult in the room right now. That's the evidence that we're seeing, right? That's what the
00:46:28.460 Trump campaign is making. So which side are you on? Are we going to come together? Are we going to,
00:46:33.580 are we going to join together like Ben Franklin said, or are we going to perish apart? That's
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