Ep. 620 - Trump Or Surrender
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Trump and Biden's debate was mostly a draw and a missed opportunity, but there was a point that President Trump did get across to the American people that everyone seems to have missed. It was a very important point and we will get into it in this episode.
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In case you missed last night's presidential debate between President Trump and Joe Biden,
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That was it. That was the debate. Except instead of seven seconds, it was 90 minutes of that.
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The debate was mostly a draw and a missed opportunity. And President Trump spent most
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of the time debating the moderator, Chris Wallace. But there was a point. President Trump did get a
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very important message out to people. And everyone seems to have missed it. But it was a very important
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message. It was actually worth that 90 minutes of yammering and screaming and heckling, which we
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will get into. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show.
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My favorite comment from yesterday comes from Top10Guy1, who says, for Democrats,
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stopping them from cheating equals voter suppression. Lol. Yes, that's true. It is
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voters because the Democrats don't want you to disenfranchise all of those dead voters in Ohio,
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all of those family pets that have been dead for 20 years, all of those illegal aliens,
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foreign nationals. They don't want you to disenfranchise those people. That would be
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suppression of votes that should, should not be cast in the first place. If you watched the debate
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last night, you probably left disappointed, regardless of what side you were on. Probably
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if you were to sum up the debate, you'd say that Trump won it. You got, he got more zingers in. He
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seemed more lively. And yet probably Biden supporters are happier this morning than, than Trump supporters
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because Biden is allegedly ahead in the polls and because Biden didn't completely collapse on the
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stage. And because the moderator, Chris Wallace constantly ran interference for Joe Biden, bailed
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him out of a lot of tight spots and was downright rude to president Trump. President Trump got some
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zingers in. He did, he did hit some points that were substantive. And I think you'd be able to break
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out and put in some campaign commercials. The first one was framing this, the, the strongest issue for
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Democrats, healthcare. That's the one they always come back to, even when healthcare has absolutely
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nothing to do with the election or the issues at hand. So what president Trump did was flip it and
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show how a Joe Biden presidency would destroy American healthcare. What I proposed is that, uh,
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we expand Obamacare and we increase it. We do not wipe any. And one of the big debates we had with
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23 of my colleagues trying to win the nomination that I won, we're saying that Biden wanted to allow
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people to have private insurance still. They can, they do, they will under my proposal.
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It's not what you've said. And it's not what your party has said.
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Your party doesn't say it. Your party wants to go socialist medicine and socialist healthcare.
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Right now I am. And they're going to dominate you, Joe. You know that I am the democratic party
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right now. Your party wants socialist medicine and socialist healthcare, and they're going to
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dominate you, Joe. You know that this was a very smart framing here, which is not to say Joe Biden
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is a radical. He's a far leftist. He's a socialist because nobody believes that Joe Biden's been in
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office since before Karl Marx was born. Joe Biden's been around a long time. He's positioned himself at
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various times as a moderate and at other times he's moved further to the left. So that,
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that wouldn't be persuasive. But what we do know, what is undeniable is that Joe Biden is weak.
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He's a weak front runner. He's a weak leader of his party. He's a weak presidential nominee,
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and he will be swayed and dominated by other members of the party. Actually, when that,
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that communist woman, Angela Davis, this, this awful far left woman who is very influential in the
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democratic party, when she endorsed Joe Biden, she said, I'm endorsing Joe Biden, not because I think
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he's a radical, but because I think that we can bully him into doing what we want. Same thing is
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true of Bob Avakian, the head of the revolutionary communist party in America. He said, yeah, I'm going
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to endorse Joe Biden because we're going to be able to bully him. So that was the point Trump picked up
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on. That I think is persuasive because people who still have horrible memories of Obamacare losing
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their doctor premiums going up. They're going to remember, oh, wait a second. Joe Biden's now promising
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more socialist healthcare. Joe Biden was in part responsible for, for the Obamacare mess. I don't
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think I want any part of that. That was a good zinger. Trump also got in one line. They clearly
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had written it out and rehearsed it about Joe Biden's pie in the sky promises and the likelihood
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that they're actually going to come true. He says he's smart because he can take advantage of the tax
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code and he does take advantage of the tax code. That's why I'm going to eliminate the Trump tax cuts
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and we're going to, we're going to eliminate those taxes and make sure that we invest in the people
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who in fact need the help people out there need help. But why didn't you do it over the last 25
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years? Because you weren't president screwing things up. You were a Senator. You're the worst
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president America has ever had. Let me just tell you, Joe, I've done more in, in 47 months. I've done
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more than you've done in 47 years, Joe. Oh, that's a good line. That is some of these scripted
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lines are not that good. And they kind of go over as groaners, which Joe Biden had one of those later
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in the debate. He said, you, you say it's the art of the deal. You do the art of the steel.
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Oh, please clap. Please. It was like so lame, but that's a good line. I've done more in 47 months
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than you've done in 47 years, because you have to look at the timeline of Joe Biden. You say, okay,
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a guy gets elected to the Senate in 1973, Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate,
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Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate, Senate, Vice president, Vice president, Vice president,
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Vice president. And he's out, he's running for office. But now he's going to change everything.
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Now he just needed 46 years headstart. And now starting in this 47th year, now he's going to
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change everything. Trump made another good point when, when Biden was hitting him on the tax code,
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he said, Joe, you wrote the tax bill. You're the one who gave me these tax advantages. So that was
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a good zinger. I think you can break that out. You're going to see some t-shirts of I've done more
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in 47 months than you've done in 47 years. And then the, I thought the best hit, it was the closest
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thing that Trump got to a clean hit of the night. It wasn't a major hit, but it's, it could be somewhat
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useful is Joe Biden was talking about how cops like him so much. And Trump said, name one,
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name one law enforcement agency that supports you. He has no law enforcement. That's not true.
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Almost. That's not, look, who do you have? Name one group that supports you. Name one group that
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came out and supported you. Go ahead. I think we have time. We don't have time to do anything.
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All right. All right. One law enforcement group that came out and supported you.
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Gentlemen, I think I'm going to, I'm going to take back the moderator's role and I want to get
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to another subject, which is the issue of protests in many cities that have turned violent.
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, I have to interject here because the president just landed a brutal blow
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on Joe Biden. So we cannot, uh, Mr. Biden, don't answer that. I'll don't, I'll step in. You obviously
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can't step in, but I'll step in. I'm Chris Wallace, the moderator. Yeah. The mod is, he's just trying to
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moderate all of the attacks. He's trying to temper all of the attacks that Trump landed on Joe Biden.
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It was, uh, there, there were a few moments that were pretty brutal where, where I felt Joe was
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Joe Biden also landed some, I wouldn't say he landed blows. He, he just landed insults. They were both
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insulting one another. I felt Trump got cleaner hits in against Joe Biden. Joe Biden, for all the talk
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we hear of civility and the soul of America and how Donald Trump is taking down the tone of our public
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discourse, Joe Biden was much nastier and more childish than Donald Trump much. It wasn't even
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close. Joe Biden said things that were shameful, downright shameful to say to the president of the
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United States, called him a clown, yelled at him to shut up and called him that classic, the classic
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insult. That means it means any type of bad person called him a racist.
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You agreed with Bernie Sanders on a plan. Folks, do you have any idea what this mom's doing?
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Socialized medicine. Mr. President, I tell you what, vote now. Make sure you in fact let people
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know you're a senator. I'm not going to answer the question because the question is, the question is,
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radical left. Will you shut up, man? Listen, who is on your list, Joe? Who's on your list? Gentlemen,
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I think we've ended this. He's going to pack the court. We're not going to give a list. We have
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ended this segment. We're going to move on to the second segment. That was really a productive
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segment, wasn't it? Keep yapping, man. The people understand, Joe. 47 years, you've done nothing.
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They understand. All right. They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place. It's a racist
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place. And they were teaching people to hate our country. And I'm not going to allow that to
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happen. Vice President Biden, nobody's doing that. He's just, he's a racist. You just don't. Here's
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the deal. I know a lot more about this. Let him finish. So unpresidential. I'm not going to defend
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Trump's badgering the whole night, though. I actually, I do have a point on Trump's badgering
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generally. I felt it was ineffective because he did it too much. But generally, we will get to that.
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Who was more or less presidential here? Trump was much more presidential. And I get it that
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the badgering is sort of tedious. I get it. It is unacceptable, childish, stupid, disrespectful,
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rude, wrong to tell the president of the United States to shut up. I find the phrase shut up to be
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one of the rudest phrases you can utter. You have to do it very selectively. One time when Ronald
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Reagan was being shouted down by a whole horde of these awful anti-American hippies, he famously told
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me, he goes, oh, shut up. You know, he's like sort of half joking. And it was, that was an effective
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use of that term. When you use that term just in normal conversation, it's incredibly rude. You could
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instead use a much more vile, vulgar sort of word, and it would be less rude than that.
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Say, call him a clown. The president of the United States, a clown. And then to say,
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he's a racist. I just don't, that phrase, maybe at some point it had some meaning. It certainly
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doesn't anymore. George Orwell in politics in the English language said that the term fascist now
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has no meaning. It just means some, something that is not desirable, something that I don't like.
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Well, the same is true of racist. There's no, it doesn't matter. There's no, it, even if somebody
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had racial bigotry, racial prejudices, the term doesn't matter. The term, even if you walked up
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to David Duke, you walked up to the head of the Ku Klux Klan and you said, you're a racist.
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The phrase itself has been deprived of meaning because of people like Joe Biden is he says,
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you're, ah, I can't, oh, well, man, I lost my train of thought and I can't, gosh, Trump's
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off footing me with the badge. You're a racist. You're a racist. It was pathetic. It's totally
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pathetic. Then at certain moments, Joe Biden actually, beyond the petty insults, actually
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seemed to undermine his own arguments. So when they were sniping at each other over the lockdowns,
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Joe Biden seemed to come out against the lockdowns.
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I'll tell you, Joe, you could never have done the job that we did. You don't have it in your
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I know how to do the job. I know how to get the job.
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Well, you didn't do very well in swine flu. H1N1, you were a disaster. Your own chief
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14,000 people died, not 200,000. There was no economic recession.
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And there was no one. There's no, we didn't shut down the economy. This is his economy.
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What? First of all, H1N1, I mean, this is why the attack on H1N1, I see why Trump launched
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it, but because the two diseases are so incomparable. And then he tried to make that point
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later, right? He said it was much less lethal, but because they're so, he left himself open
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to that, that counterattack. But I didn't expect Joe's counterattack to say, well, we didn't shut
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down the economy for H1N1. Joe, you're, it's you guys who are trying to shut down the economy now.
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Trump wants to open the economy. And just five seconds ago, you were demagoguing the issue
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and saying Trump's killing people because he won't shut down the economy. So what is it?
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Do the Democrats want to shut down the economy or do they want to open up the economy? Right now,
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it's only the democratic governors practically who are trying to keep it shut down, right? Gavin
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Newsom, uh, the mayor, Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, Andrew Cuomo, governor of New York,
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Bill de Blasio, mayor in New York. It's all the Democrats who want to shut it down.
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So, but Joe, this is the trouble with being a cynical, empty suit politician.
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He doesn't have any beliefs. It's not just that he's lying. It's that he has no regard for the truth.
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So he says, okay, now it's, now it's good to hit him for the lockdowns. And it doesn't even occur
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to him like, wait a second, but we were the ones pushing the lockdowns on him or argue. I just
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undercut our argument. That doesn't matter. And I think for a lot of his partisans, it probably
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won't matter much either. And then the most ridiculous thing Biden said all night beyond
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the petty insults, which you kind of expect he was, he was asked to condemn Antifa and he
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held the party line. He said Antifa doesn't exist. Somebody's got to do something about Antifa and
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the left, because this is not a right wing problem. This is a left wing. This is a left
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wing problem. Antifa is an idea, not an organization, not malicious. That's what
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his FBI, his FBI director said. Well, then you know what? No, no, no, we're done. We're
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done, sir. Antifa, we're done. We're done, Mr. Trump. You can't, please don't respond to
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that because that statement that Joe made was so obviously indefensible that please, please
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don't respond. We've got to move on. New segment, new segment. We got to go. That's the sacred,
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sacred new segment. Antifa's an idea, not an organization. Antifa may be an idea,
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uh, but it's an idea that has gotten into people's heads and those people wear uniforms and they wave
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a flag and they march and organize together. That is an organization. You could say this,
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you could say, look, look, fascism is an idea. It's not an organization, which is true. Uh,
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but in Mussolini's Italy, that idea was embodied by people who wore black shirts and committed violence
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in the streets. Nazism is an idea. It's not an organization. Sure. It is an idea. It was
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embodied by people who wore brown shirts and worked for Adolf Hitler in Germany, right? Well,
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uh, communism is an idea. It's not an organization. Sure. But it manifests in organizations and Antifa
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has a real organization right now. Coincidentally, members of Antifa are alternately anarchists and
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communists and all sorts of miscreants and ne'er-do-wells and very bad people.
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We know that they exist. I can see the videos of them waving their flag. That is the definition
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of an organization, but they can't cop to it. And so Trump's getting a lot of, uh,
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flack right now because they, they pulled out the typical court. They say, Trump, do you condemn
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white supremacists? He goes, sure. Yeah. Okay. I, yes. I defend white supremacists or I, pardon me.
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I condemn white supremacists. Uh, who do you want me to condemn? Who do you want me to condemn?
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And they say the Prad boys. Okay. Yeah. Prad boys go away. Okay. Yeah. Do we do it? But Joe,
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you're defending Antifa. And Joe says, there's no such thing as Antifa. Now you've, you've heard in some
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of these clips, Chris Wallace, Chris Wallace is the key. He just keeps jumping in and in and in.
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Okay. And the, uh, it became a one versus two debate, which made the whole thing much more
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frustrating to watch. Okay. But I think Trump had to know that going in. He had to realize
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There was this secret threat that came into the debate though. I'm sure Trump predicted it. And that
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was Chris Wallace. Chris Wallace, I believe is a Democrat, but he's on Fox news and Fox news is
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supposed to be the sort of conservative news channel. And we're only getting one debate.
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One of these debates will be moderated by us. Someone who even has an association really with
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conservatives. And it was this unfair, this unfair. So what are the other ones going to be like?
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What, when you've got actual, not just regular old left-wingers, but left-wingers at totally 100%
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left-wing networks, not just sort of middle of the road networks. What's that two-on-one going to
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look like? Trump called him out at one point. Trump said, oh, Craig, okay, Chris, I didn't realize I
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wasn't billed to be debating you tonight, but that's fine. No big deal.
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The individual mandate was the most unpopular aspect of Obamacare. I got rid of it. And we
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will protect people. Mr. President, I'm the moderator of this debate. And I would like you
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to let me ask my question and then you can answer your question. You, in the course of these four
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years, have never come up with a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare. And just this last Thursday,
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yesterday, you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with preexisting conditions
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five days before this debate. So my question, sir, is what is the Trump health care plan?
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Well, first of all, I guess I'm debating you, not him, but that's okay. I'm not surprised. Let
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me just tell you something. There's nothing symbolic. I'm cutting drug prices. I'm going with
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favored nations, which no president has the courage to do because you're going against big pharma.
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Now, drug prices will be coming down 80 or 90%. You could have done it during your 47 year period
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in government, but you didn't do it. And Wallace, he goes on that line, whenever you call out the
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moderator, the moderator does have to take a little bit of a step back, but not for very long. And it
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was pretty pathetic. Even Chris Wallace's Fox News colleagues, some of them privately, but, uh, but
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many of them even publicly said this was not a great performance. And you could see they were
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posting it all on, on Twitter last night. It was too much. That is always at risk. I remember I did
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a debate with, with a Fox News Democrat at Politicon. This was, I guess a year ago and almost exactly a
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year ago over in Nashville. And the, the moderator was Clay Aiken and the Fox News Democrat was, uh,
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Chris Hahn, the bald guy, Chris Hahn called me skinny boy. And, uh, so I, I prepared the debate
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against Chris Hahn. But at the very last minute I realized, wait a second,
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there's another guy here who's the, technically the moderator, but I know that Clay Aiken ran for
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office as a Democrat. I know that Clay Aiken probably has political views and I know how these
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debates tend to go against conservatives. So I said, you know, last minute, I'm just going to do a
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little, little research on, on Clay Aiken just to make sure I go. So I go into the debate.
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Okay. Chris Hahn and I basically did not debate. That was, Chris Hahn was just like kind of a
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wallflower though. I mean, we got a few barbs in or whatever. The actual debate was against the
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moderator, Clay Aiken. And that's what happened last night. Joe Biden did, did not come with his
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best or maybe he did come with his best, but his best ain't very much these days. And frankly,
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it wasn't even that much during the height of his career in the eighties and nineties.
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Trump had to debate Chris Wallace. So it does raise questions about the ground rules for the
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debate and for the strategy. The first thing I'll say about, about how this came out, which I think
00:22:32.940
was a draw. I don't think it moved the needle one little bit, one way or the other. Incumbents lose
00:22:39.840
the first debate. That happens all the time. You remember it with Barack Obama. He got crushed in
00:22:45.840
the first debate by Mitt Romney in 2012 and Mitt Romney, right? It's not exactly the fiercest debater
00:22:52.040
out there. He ran roughshod over Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan, very famously got crushed in the
00:22:59.940
first debate to Walter Mondale in 1984. Ronald Reagan, this is, there was plenty of reporting on
00:23:05.200
this. According to, to Lou Cannon, who's written about this, said as soon as Reagan left the stage,
00:23:11.560
he confessed to his advisor, Stu Spencer, that he had flopped. You had Mondale walking off of the
00:23:20.580
stage saying to an aide, this guy is gone. Meaning he mentally wasn't all there. Kind of the thing we
00:23:26.920
would say about Joe Biden. Two days after the debate, the RNC chairman, Paul Laxalt held a press
00:23:32.720
conference admitting that Reagan had done a bad job and said, no, but it wasn't because his brain has
00:23:38.200
turned to mush. It's because the briefing process didn't work very well. You know, the preparation
00:23:43.240
process didn't work any well. And he, he just got clobbered. And then he came back and crushed
00:23:49.980
Mondale in the later debate. Same thing with Obama. Obama came back with the help of the moderator,
00:23:54.280
quote unquote, Candy Crowley and crushed Romney in the remainder of the debates. So I'm not too worried.
00:24:00.360
If you have a little bit of an historical view, you say this isn't going to change anything.
00:24:03.140
The trouble with last night's debate is it was exhausting. That was, I was watching it there
00:24:07.340
with Ben, Jeremy and Drew. We just said like, oh gosh, guys, I got, I don't have enough hours in
00:24:12.280
my life to sit through this. It's not, there's nothing productive about this. It's so exhausting.
00:24:18.180
And that's true. That's true. And we had a little bit of a disagreement because we all thought that
00:24:24.780
Trump interrupted too much, but I think Ben was harsher on it than I was. And Ben kept bringing up this
00:24:32.100
point. This is, this is exhausting and this isn't good and it's going to turn away voters.
00:24:35.660
But the reason I disagree with that a little bit is Trump has to be exhausting. He has to be,
00:24:43.740
if he wants to do anything that matters as a conservative. Now you don't need to be exhausting
00:24:50.680
if you want to just go along and get along with the liberal establishment, because then you'll be
00:24:56.380
treated relatively well. You know, they'll still probably beat you, but maybe they'll let you get in
00:25:00.300
as long as you play the game, as long as you as a conservative play your role as the court jester in
00:25:05.320
the kingdom of liberalism, they'll more or less let you get along. But if you actually threaten
00:25:09.560
things in the way that Trump has done, if you threaten their global trade regime, if you threaten
00:25:14.680
their open borders regime, if you threaten the loss of national sovereignty to international and
00:25:19.660
transnational organizations, as Trump has done, unlike any of his predecessors, frankly, even
00:25:24.900
including Ronald Reagan, if you do that, they are all going to come at you all of the time.
00:25:31.900
Hollywood, the mainstream media, obviously the democratic politicians, the bureaucracy that
00:25:36.280
tried to have a coup d'etat and overthrow the 2016 election and kick him out of office,
00:25:40.780
higher education, lower education, the technology companies now, which are threatening to censor
00:25:45.340
conservatives on election night. All of these things are coming to, and they're already censoring
00:25:51.540
conservatives. They're already censoring even the president of the United States, saying that he's
00:25:54.940
posting misinformation when certainly that is not the case. All of these things are going to come
00:25:59.340
after you. If you want to break through that at all, you have to badger. It's the same disagreement
00:26:04.420
about the tweets. You hear some conservatives say, I hate the tweets, he's got to stop tweeting.
00:26:08.940
Then you hear other ones like me who say, I love the tweets. I get that the tweets can be annoying
00:26:13.180
and sometimes they can be a little bit destructive, but the tweets are essential. You've got to keep
00:26:19.340
badgering because it's the only way that you can break through that liberal establishment.
00:26:23.920
That's the, you know, Ronald Reagan famously said, there's only one guaranteed way that you can have
00:26:28.940
peace and you can have it in the next minute. Surrender. Yeah. If you surrender to the left,
00:26:35.400
then you can, it'll all be genial and nice. Oh, old Joe's a return to normalcy.
00:26:40.880
I don't like the normalcy. The normalcy was very bad. The normalcy is leading our country
00:26:45.360
off of a cliff. The normalcy that we're talking about has led to a place where we've, we've probably
00:26:52.420
haven't been this racially divided in 50 years. We've never been this sexually divided because of
00:26:57.980
the advent of these new identity groups that have cropped up. We've never hated our country more.
00:27:03.160
It's now controversial to listen to the national anthem and stand up and support your country.
00:27:06.700
It's now controversial to recite the pledge of allegiance or salute the flag. We've never hated
00:27:12.080
our history more tearing down statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson. We've never been
00:27:16.080
stupider. And this is the biggest problem with this debate is how stupid it was. It was so dumb.
00:27:21.420
And that's not just a perennial complaint and every generation feels that, that, oh gosh,
00:27:26.460
things used to be better. They actually were better when it comes to the American mind and the
00:27:31.080
American public discourse. Okay. When you compare this debate, right, which I think is a consequential
00:27:37.780
one. I think 2020 is going to be extremely consequential because you've got so radically different
00:27:41.540
visions for the country. Compare that to the Lincoln-Douglas debates, which also were consequential.
00:27:47.240
They also were about an essential fundamental question in the country, slavery. The question
00:27:52.140
was so essential that you had a bloody civil war where almost 700,000 Americans died over it.
00:27:58.240
The Lincoln-Douglas debates were substantive. The rhetoric from both sides, more so from Lincoln,
00:28:03.320
but from both sides, the rhetoric, the oratory was serious. It was contemplative. It reflected a deep
00:28:09.880
mind, two deep minds actually, with a deep understanding of the issues. And last night was
00:28:15.180
just, yeah, come on, man, you're Bayer racist, man. You're shut up clown, you man. And it was
00:28:21.500
just pathetic. Mostly Joe Biden, much less so Trump. Trump got his Trumpy lines and he's a reality TV
00:28:27.420
star, sure. But Joe Biden was the much more pathetic one. Pitiful. I won't even say pathetic. He didn't,
00:28:33.280
he didn't evoke much, much compassionate feeling in me for him. It was, it was sad. Makes people sad
00:28:39.860
for the country. And if you, if you want to have that return to normalcy and just give it to Joe
00:28:44.080
Biden, fine, you're going to get more of that, more of that degradation. Sometimes the only way out is
00:28:49.360
through. Dante famously in his comedy, where he's trying to get up to heaven and, and behold the
00:28:55.260
beatific vision. He's got to go all the way down through hell. Sometimes the only way out
00:28:59.960
is through. There were lots and lots of lies, not just in the debate, but that the typical lies
00:29:06.160
coming from the mainstream media, it's going to involve a lot more pestering.
00:29:10.660
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00:30:51.800
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We'll be right back with a lot more. Give you an example of a clear lie. There was an anonymous
00:31:44.220
report confirmed by, confirmed quote unquote by anonymous people that said that Trump called the
00:31:49.280
troops fallen soldiers, idiots and losers and suckers and that sort of thing. No evidence,
00:31:54.640
zero evidence that this ever happened. You have over 25 people gone on the record,
00:31:59.060
even people who don't like Trump on the record saying, no, I was there. He never said that.
00:32:02.520
That's complete BS. This was a story published by the Atlantic. Doesn't matter because they were
00:32:06.960
clearly connected to the Joe Biden campaign as Joe Biden immediately makes ads using that story
00:32:12.200
within hours of the story coming out. So Joe Biden launches that attack on Trump. Then Trump points
00:32:17.560
out, he says, wait, Joe, there's video of you calling the troops stupid bastards.
00:32:20.520
Joe Biden flat out denies it. He made a statement about the military. He said, I said something
00:32:27.500
about the military. He and his friends made it up and then they went with it. I never said it.
00:32:32.220
Okay. That is what he did. He said, he called the military stupid bastards.
00:32:37.400
I did not say it. He said stupid bastards. Stop. I would never say that. I would play it.
00:32:44.720
Play it. I love Chris Wallace. Stop it. Stop it. Trump. You're saying things that are true
00:32:50.120
and they're not nice about Joe. Stop. Please cut the feed. Cut his mic. So ridiculous. But you heard
00:32:56.920
the important exchange here. Joe Biden called the troops stupid bastards. Joe Biden said, I did not say
00:33:01.980
that. Roll the tape. One, I married Jill and two, I appointed Johnson to the academy. I just want you
00:33:10.220
to know that. Just clap for that. You stupid bastards. We have the tape. He is talking to a
00:33:19.000
whole audience of military. So let's clap for that. You stupid bastards. You called them stupid
00:33:25.460
bastards. I did not. How dare you? So he lies. And then Chris Wallace, stop, please. No. Oh gosh.
00:33:33.160
People are going to Google it. If you mention it a couple more times and that's it. That's it. The
00:33:36.620
only way you can break through is if you, if you hammer these things and you make it such an issue
00:33:41.240
that even if you get the negative attention for yourself, people take a look, Google it themselves.
00:33:45.840
Those are the lies we're up against. I'll give you an example of another lie that we're up against.
00:33:48.980
So you remember the Atlantic hit piece that said that Trump called the military suckers and losers.
00:33:57.680
No evidence of that. Here's another one. Also from the Atlantic, Trump secretly mocks his Christian
00:34:03.860
supporters. Former aides say that in private, the president has spoken with cynicism and contempt
00:34:11.280
about believers. You don't even really need to read this. It's like, okay, we were, oh, they've,
00:34:17.680
they're quoting Michael Cohen, the criminal degenerate traitor lawyer to Donald Trump. Coward
00:34:24.480
hack, uh, who's now in prison, right? Or maybe they let him out because he was afraid of getting
00:34:30.860
the woo flu or something. Okay. Blah, blah, blah. I don't, there's not, I don't even need to really
00:34:35.300
read this. Do you think that Donald Trump hates Christians? Ask yourself that. Do you think Donald
00:34:40.580
Trump hates Christians? Joe Biden in the Biden Obama administration, that administration,
00:34:47.680
sued nuns, took it all the way up through the courts because they wanted the nuns to pay for
00:34:56.420
abortion drugs. Sued nuns. Donald Trump doesn't do that. Donald Trump supports religious liberty,
00:35:08.620
supports churches. When the left went over and burned down one of the most famous churches in the
00:35:16.720
country, St. John's over in Washington, DC, right by the white house, Donald Trump walked over there,
00:35:23.960
dispersed the crowd of rioters and held up the Bible as a sign of support. And you know what happened?
00:35:29.440
Democrats attacked Trump for doing that. Which side do you think supports Christianity? Which side
00:35:34.900
do you think holds Christianity in contempt? How many churches have been burned down,
00:35:39.320
uh, graffitied up, attacked, smashed by the left in the, in the last two months? Countless.
00:35:47.360
Which do you think? This story was, I mean, I, what is the meat of this story that Trump has made some
00:35:53.560
jokes maybe? I don't know. I guess I have no doubt that Trump has made jokes about, uh, religious
00:35:57.820
people. I've made plenty of jokes about religious people, many of them on this show. Is that, that's
00:36:02.720
the issue? No. Question is who supports Christianity? Trump or Joe Biden? Joe Biden, who was denied
00:36:09.220
communion because he is in grave scandal and mortal sin. Obviously, obviously Trump is the supporter
00:36:15.620
of people of faith, religious liberty, Christianity in particular.
00:36:20.220
This gets to that, that issue of the cynicism, right? Joe Biden undermining his own attacks because
00:36:25.700
we've been told the last few weeks, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic. Sure. He doesn't believe the
00:36:30.280
stuff the Catholic church believes and sure he was denied communion rightly so by a priest,
00:36:34.800
but he is devout. And that's so wonderful. But also Amy Barrett's a complete nut job because
00:36:39.820
she actually believes in Catholicism. Well, hold on. I thought it was good to believe in because
00:36:44.800
you said it was, he's a devout Catholic and that's a good, but then you, someone actually,
00:36:49.380
and Dianne Feinstein's worried that the dogma lives loudly within her and Dick Durbin doesn't
00:36:52.660
know what it means to have orthodoxy in your religion. They're trying to have it both ways,
00:36:58.160
which is what makes an article like that complete trash, but that's what you're up against.
00:37:03.600
So Trump's got his work cut out for him. The one, the one substantive point I want to
00:37:08.800
tell Republicans and president Trump in particular that I think is always a misstep. Trump made it
00:37:14.760
last night is Trump went after Joe Biden on the 1994 crime bill. He went after Joe Biden for being
00:37:21.940
too tough on crime, which is a completely misguided attack. Republicans are launching this, I think is
00:37:28.060
a matter of racial pandering. And I actually find it racially very uncomfortable because it conflates
00:37:33.280
black people with criminals, like as a complete overlap, right? You're saying, no, look,
00:37:37.660
I'm really good for black people. Look, I'm letting them all out of prison. You said, no, no, I don't
00:37:41.060
think innocent black people want to identify themselves with a bunch of criminals who've,
00:37:47.040
who've done heinous things. The 1994 crime bill is the only good thing Joe Biden's ever done in his
00:37:52.800
political career. It makes me more likely to vote for him. If you mentioned the 94 crime bill,
00:37:57.340
the first step act, the jail spring act that, that Trump passed, it actually makes me less likely to
00:38:03.560
vote for Trump. I'm obviously going to support Trump regardless, but it's my least favorite
00:38:07.560
thing probably that he's done in his administration. It's, it's the wrong line of attack. It's not
00:38:13.560
going to work. It's, uh, it's, it's undercutting their other arguments on law and order. Give you
00:38:18.520
an example, give you an example of how the left is just by its own nature, very weak on crime.
00:38:24.620
There was a, a guy, a murderer who just got executed. He finally got his, his punishment,
00:38:30.480
his just punishment, which is capital punishment. The U S plans to execute a man for a crime he
00:38:37.660
committed at 19. Scientists say the research on brain development makes that wrong. So first of all,
00:38:45.840
the, the scientists say by the left's own premises cannot have a conclusion in a moral argument,
00:38:56.320
because what the left has said is that there is science, right? Physical science, and that you
00:39:00.480
can't derive an ought from an is. You can't derive moral conclusions from the physical world. That's,
00:39:06.080
that's the basis of this whole physical science that we're talking about. But what they're,
00:39:09.840
what are they trying to do? They're trying to derive, um, a moral conclusion from the physical
00:39:13.720
world, right? But they're saying those things are supposed to be totally separate. Scientists and
00:39:17.880
philosophers are supposed to be totally separate, but they don't separate them when it works for
00:39:22.040
them. So they'll say, yeah, science says you gotta, you gotta lock yourself in your home for the next 10
00:39:25.240
years. Because science, science says that. No, nothing, nothing about science as they understand
00:39:30.460
it would suggest that. It gets more complicated because one actually probably can derive an ought
00:39:36.300
from it, from an is. One probably actually can derive moral conclusions from the physical world. But that,
00:39:41.760
that argument is for another day. And that's certainly not what the, what the left is trying
00:39:45.060
to do. They're actually trying to invert that traditional understanding of things. The man committed a
00:39:49.520
crime at 19 and now he's got to pay for, first of all, he should have been executed at 19,
00:39:52.620
right? It should, he shouldn't have been languishing on, on death row for the past 21 years. They should
00:39:57.720
have just executed him for his crime. But then they're trying to racially demagogue it because
00:40:01.760
apparently, apparently this guy is black. He doesn't look black to me, but I guess he's black.
00:40:05.740
So a number of the, the, uh, articles about this and the tweets about this have said the U S is going
00:40:10.280
to execute a black man. And the premise of BLM is that any black man who's in prison is there unjustly
00:40:16.200
because we have a new kind of slavery and I don't know, they were all set up or something.
00:40:20.240
Let me tell you this guy's crime. Christopher Vialva, Christopher Vialva bummed a ride from two
00:40:27.840
youth ministers, a couple, a young couple, a man and his wife. He robbed them. He kidnapped them
00:40:33.700
and he stuffed them in the trunk. He then drove around for hours and tried to pawn the wife's wedding
00:40:40.500
ring, apparently unsuccessfully. He then opened up the trunk and while they were pleading for their
00:40:46.500
lives, the wife was reading him the Bible to convert him. He shot them both in the head, but the wife
00:40:54.700
didn't die right away. So he set their bodies on fire and then they died.
00:41:05.000
This is by the way, this man would end up in the, in Dante's sort of understanding of cosmic justice.
00:41:10.440
This guy would end up in the very pit, the very lowest level of hell. He committed the worst sin,
00:41:16.820
which is fraud and betraying, specifically betraying your benefactors. He asked these guys for a ride
00:41:23.440
out of the kindness of their heart. They gave it to him. He kidnapped them, robbed them, tied them up
00:41:29.620
and burned this woman alive. That guy should be killed by the state. It is totally just capital
00:41:40.520
punishment, very just thing. It, it perverts our system when there is no type of justice at that
00:41:47.940
degree. When the president comes out, I understand there's a very big difference between say a drug
00:41:54.740
crime and a crime such as Christopher Vialva committed. Though I will point out with some
00:42:00.200
of these drug trafficking rings, there is a lot of blood involved. There's a lot of death involved
00:42:05.040
in those too, but I get it. They're, they're different. When Republicans come out and attack
00:42:12.120
Democrats for being too tough on crime, you know, they've lost the thread because we do not have a
00:42:16.620
problem in this country being too tough on crime. We are way, way, way too weak on crime. Even
00:42:21.240
conservatives, many conservatives oppose capital punishment. Many conservatives even oppose tough
00:42:25.460
punishment because it's not rehabilitative. Maybe it's not, it's not deterrent. They say now it,
00:42:32.480
it often is deterrent. The reason that these tough punishments are not deterrent is because they go on
00:42:36.200
so long that they don't, they don't actually seem like a punishment. If this guy had been killed at 20
00:42:40.220
as he damn well should have been, I think you'd see a much greater deterrent effect of capital
00:42:45.320
punishment. They're not rehabilitative. I bet capital punishment has at least a chance of being
00:42:50.040
rehabilitative on this man's soul, but there is a primary purpose of our justice system,
00:42:56.140
which is justice, justice. It's not just a therapy session, folks. It's justice.
00:43:04.180
Punitive, punitive punishment. I know that that sounds a little bit redundant. Retributive
00:43:09.640
justice. That's what we're talking about. Getting retribution because justice demands it. There's a role
00:43:17.320
for mercy too. That's the pardon power, but there is a, there's a place for justice as well. We've
00:43:23.220
completely lost that. You know, it's so funny too. We're also being, we're being very, very cruel to
00:43:27.980
the prisoners in the process. I'll give you an example in California. Governor Gavin Newsom is now
00:43:32.300
decided that he's going to send transgender inmates, that is men who pretend to be women,
00:43:38.960
women to be housed with the women prisoners, with the women. And what could go wrong? What could go
00:43:47.360
wrong? Get a bunch of hardened criminals, people who are by definition criminals who do bad things to
00:43:53.580
people, uh, put a bunch of these bad dudes in with the women. What could possibly go wrong? This is
00:44:00.520
horrifically cruel to the female inmates. And by the way, I'm calling for tough justice on criminals,
00:44:06.900
but I'm not calling for cruelty. I think it's very wrong to, I think it's extraordinarily wrong to be
00:44:11.960
cruel. I totally oppose cruel and unusual punishment. This is cruel and unusual punishment.
00:44:18.080
Putting a bunch of men in with the women. What could possibly go wrong? But it's because we've lost
00:44:24.140
this thread of calling out objective moral reality. It actually gets to the science question. You see,
00:44:30.420
there was, there was a time when we could understand that the physical world has a purpose. My body has a
00:44:36.560
purpose. This, this, this life that we have has an end. Okay. The, this cup has a purpose. The cup is
00:44:43.120
to give me coffee. That there, there are other things the cup could be used for. And there's some
00:44:49.080
things that the cup should not be used for. The cup is not a telephone. I can't use the cup to be a
00:44:53.460
telephone. It is, it is not going to fulfill its T loss. It's not going to fulfill its purpose by doing
00:44:58.800
that. But the cup is here for giving me that delicious coffee. Then you had the kind of
00:45:06.720
quote unquote scientific revolution where we say, no, no, no, you can't derive any of these kind of
00:45:12.380
philosophical or metaphysical conclusions from physical objects. But now we've reverted back to
00:45:16.480
the old thing. It's just on the left, right? It's the left saying, yeah, the scientists, the lab coat guys
00:45:20.920
who have no understanding of ethics or philosophy, those guys are now going to tell us how to run our
00:45:26.440
moral lives based on nothing, based on their, their wild whims. What we have to do is return to a
00:45:33.880
world in which we have a clear understanding of the moral order and where, and where we have the
00:45:38.000
courage to admit it. Say some things are better than other things. There is such a thing as justice.
00:45:43.340
There is such a thing as good. There is such a thing as courage. There is such a thing as wrong.
00:45:48.300
Men should not be with the women inmates. That's wrong. Men who pretend to be women,
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we should have compassion for, sure, but we shouldn't indulge that fantasy because it's not
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true. It's wrong. It is actually wrong to do that. Wrong to pretend to do that and wrong to indulge
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that delusion. There's a kindergarten teacher in France. Kindergarten teacher just got fired
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from teaching kindergarten. He's, he's still teaching first graders and second graders and
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third graders. He just got fired from kindergarten. Why? Sylvan Helene is his name. He's 35. He's the most
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tattooed man in, in France. His body, face, and tongue are covered in tattoos. And he just had
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the whites of his eyeballs surgically dyed black to look like a demon. He looks like a demon and he
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was scaring the kindergartners. So finally he was moved, not out of the, not out of the school,
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not away from children, not into a psychiatric hospital where he belongs. He was moved to first
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grade and hopefully those kids and their parents won't complain and have nightmares.
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There was a time in this civilization where you could look at that and say, you know,
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it's, it is wrong to dye your whole skin and dye your eyeballs black and try to look like a demon.
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That's wrong. That's evidence that something's gone wrong in your head. And we're going to give
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you treatment for that. We're going to explain to you why that's wrong. But now we're so afraid to
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make any moral, moral claim. And, and they're even conservatives, quote unquote, they're, they're
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really libertarians who say, well, you know, look, if we say it's wrong to dye your eyeballs black and,
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and cover your whole body in tattoos to look like a demon, then they're going to tell us it's wrong
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to go to church. And it's like, who can really know which one's wrong, you know? So we just got
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to throw our hands up and anything goes. No, I'll tell you what, how about we just say the good things
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are the good things and the bad things are the bad things. We've done that throughout the entirety of
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our civilization, except for the past, I don't know, five minutes in earnest since the 1960s.
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How about we just do that? That is possible. We have the ability to do that. We just might not have
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the courage that all of that is to say that is a system that conservatives are up against right now.
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Okay. That kind of insanity, that kind of unreason. And so it is no surprise that when we have our
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national, national debates, it's just a bunch of screaming all night long. It's just a bunch of
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petty insults. There's no reason because we've lost confidence, even in the ability to reason
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about our politics, to reason about how we ought to all live together. We've lost a conception of
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what the good even is, what we all should be doing. And so we're all just stuck in cacophony and a
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bunch of babble. All right. That's enough babble for today. I'll see you tomorrow. I'm Michael
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