Ep. 622 - Real Virus, Fake News
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The left is feeling a lot of emotions after President Trump s COVID diagnosis. They are feeling a little bit of sympathy, just a little. They re feeling a whole lot of happiness. And mostly what they re feeling is self-righteousness.
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The left is feeling a lot of emotions after President Trump's COVID diagnosis.
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They're feeling a little bit of sympathy, just a little bit.
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And mostly what they're feeling is self-righteousness.
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Jake Tapper over at CNN sums up perfectly all of the sanctimony.
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Many Americans are likely feeling both sympathy and anger today,
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Sympathy for all of those suffering, including President Trump, who remains at Walter Reed Medical Center.
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But also anger, because so much, so much of all this pain could have been avoided.
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So many of us since March have been doing everything we can to preserve the health of not only ourselves and our families,
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Social distancing, wearing masks, holding events remotely.
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Children are missing out on in-person education and their ability to see friends.
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The president has been undermining these efforts, expressing disdain for health regulations and those who abide by them.
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The Americans who don't listen to science or medicine, who think masks are too intrusive,
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who pack bars, who willfully risk spreading the virus,
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You are extending how long this pandemic will last.
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It seems Jake Tapper knows even less about politics than he does about viruses.
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Look, the left has absolutely ruined everyone's education,
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And it's still not working because of those Trumpers.
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They are drawing the complete wrong conclusions from President Trump's diagnosis.
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And they are making that classic leftist mistake, which we will get to.
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My favorite comment from Thursday is from Andrew Cooper, who says,
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President Trump is termed a racist by his political opponents.
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Joe Biden is termed a racist by his running mate.
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Look at the sort of things that were being said about Joe Biden not so long ago.
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But now, of course, everybody is rallying behind him.
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This absolute edifice of lies, this establishment of lies from the mainstream media.
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Hollywood elected Democrats, the bureaucratic government, the public health experts, the
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universities, all of it teaming up to completely gaslight us on reality.
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The left could not be drawing more incorrect conclusions, wronger conclusions from President
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He's scheduled to be released from Walter Reed after just a few days.
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Today, he has been giving shows of strength the whole time.
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This is the most powerful country in the world.
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I can't be locked up in a room upstairs and totally safe.
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There's never been a great leader that would have done that.
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For decades, both parties just went along with China.
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They said, ah, maybe it's not good in the long run that we're shipping all of our jobs overseas.
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Both parties go along to get along on open borders immigration, even though that sort of
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It's destroying actually the lives of people who are trying to come over here because of
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what they have to deal with to get into this country.
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And it's, of course, weakening the country itself.
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President Trump deals with it head on, and he's doing the same thing with COVID.
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I also want to point out there's a lie that's being told by the media that President Trump
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was a weak leader on COVID, that he made the problem worse.
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President Trump was much more cautious and much more effective on coronavirus than his
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President Trump shut down travel from China, the source of the virus, when Joe Biden said
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Joe Biden would have kept that border open, would have made the virus much, much worse.
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Nancy Pelosi, at the same time that President Trump was closing the border with China,
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what was she doing? She was showing up down in Chinatown in San Francisco without a mask,
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and she said famously, come on down to Chinatown.
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Absolutely, they were not taking it seriously. Then President Trump cuts off travel from Europe.
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Again, he was criticized for that. So even as a matter of policy by policy,
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how did the two sides do? Trump was much more cautious, took this much more seriously
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than the left. But that's not even my point. That's not even my issue here,
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because the virus has been very different than a lot of people thought that it would.
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President Trump knows that, by the way. He's now gone through the ringer. And he gave an update,
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a second update from Walter Reed. The language he uses to describe this virus,
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the only word that I can use for it is very interesting.
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It's been a very interesting journey. I learned a lot about COVID. I learned it by really going to
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school. This is the real school. This isn't the, let's read the book school. And I get it. And I
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understand it. And it's a very interesting thing. I'm going to be letting you know about it. In the
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meantime, we love the USA and we love what's happening. Thank you.
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A vaguer statement has never been. It's a very interesting thing. And yeah,
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it's interesting. It's not boring. I tell you, it's this, it's that. Notice he didn't say it's
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terrible. It's the, it's the worst disease ever. I'm in tatters. Notice he looks pretty strong. He
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looks okay. He was only in that hospital for a few days. Now let's hope and pray that he continues to
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get better because obviously for some people who've had the virus, it's been very serious. But for the
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vast, vast majority of people who have had the virus, it hasn't been particularly tough. For a
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huge number of people, some, some surveys showing up to 50%, they don't even show symptoms or very,
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very, very mild symptoms. And then for over 99% of people who get the virus, they'll recover totally
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fine. And even president Trump, who's in a risk category, he's a little bit older. He eats a lot of
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fast food. You can just see it on the video. That was the point of putting out those videos.
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He's doing pretty good. He looks pretty strong. I don't know what it is. It's maybe something in
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So important for President Trump to show strength, which he did. Now the left is attacking him because
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there was this huge rally of people praying for him and cheering him on right outside the hospital.
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And President Trump just took a quick little jaunt around in the Secret Service vehicle and they're
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driving around and he's waving to the supporters. Another very important thing to do. You've got this
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global pandemic such as it is. You've got the leader of the free world has it. He has got to show people
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that he's okay. That is a very important matter of statecraft. And so he does that. And so CNN accuses
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him of putting the lives of his Secret Service agents in danger.
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Doing instead in doing this PR move to show his supporters that he is doing all right is he is
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putting the lives of Secret Service agents at risk. We saw there were at least two Secret Service
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agents in the vehicle in which the president was riding in. They were wearing those N95 respirators,
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but that was it. That is not the kind of protocols that are happening at the building behind me at
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Walter Reed, where we've been told that the doctors who have to go into the room with the
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president to treat him, they are wearing the full suite of protective gear, which includes not only
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masks, but some kind of a face shield. It includes gloves. It includes protective equipment on top of
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their clothing. So obviously there is some risk here that the president is willing to put these
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Secret Service officers, Secret Service agents through in order to get his public facing objectives.
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So first off, what that guy just said is a lie. First, just the part about the protective
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equipment. You can look in at the vehicle, at the photo that CNN is using, and you can see that the
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Secret Service agents are wearing all of that protective equipment that he says that they're
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not wearing. You can look at it. They're wearing some kind of gown type thing over their suit.
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You can see the same thing with the driver. So they've got all of this, two agents in that car.
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Second point though, I guess this is the bigger point. Does this guy know what the Secret Service
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is? What they do? The entire job of the Secret Service is to risk their lives for the president.
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You have to be willing to take a bullet for the president of the United States. That is the job.
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Now, what some people are saying is there's no reason though that Trump had to take this ride to
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wave to his supporters. I think there was a huge reason. I think that he has to show strength,
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not just to his supporters, but to our adversaries overseas who are looking very closely right now.
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But even beyond that, this CNN guy seems to think that the Secret Service, when Trump is in the
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hospital, the Secret Service are nowhere to be found. The Secret Service are always around the
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president. They're always there. There is not, you don't get to run away for a little while and the
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Secret Service say, okay, bye Mr. President. We'll pick you up in a few hours. They're always there.
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They're always already being exposed to this sort of thing. CNN is just very upset that President
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Trump is now enduring this virus. He's in this dangerous age group. He's enduring this virus
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that they have been fear mongering us all over for the past eight months. And President Trump is
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looking strong and he's dealing with this head on. Liberals are drawing the complete wrong conclusions
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from Trump getting COVID. The one point they seem to be showing is, and they've been talking about
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this on Twitter, on TV news and all these things. They say now that Trump has COVID, now finally,
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maybe his supporters will take this seriously. The people who didn't want to plunge the entire
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country into a great depression and shut down everything and stop people from going to their
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families' funerals and stop kids from going to school and stop elective surgeries and stop
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important surgeries that are going to lead to higher deaths from things like cancer, for instance,
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because treatments were not being given while the hospitals were all locked down for COVID.
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Now maybe those awful people will take this seriously. It always comes back to the masks. You know,
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they're so obsessed with the masks, the magical cloth mask that nobody wears correctly that is going to
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protect everybody from the virus. The liberals seem to think, I'll just use the mask as an example,
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but it's an example. It stands in for all these other measures too. The liberals seem to think
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that we oppose the mask rules because we don't think that we can get COVID-19. In reality, we oppose
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the mask rules because we know that we're all going to get COVID-19. Liberals think that we oppose the
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lockdowns and shutting down school and ruining everybody's life because we think that we could,
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we could never get it. But it's the opposite of that. It's that we know that these policies that
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they have put into place are not sufficient to stop a virus because no policies have ever been
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sufficient to stop a virus because the public health experts that they are deferring to, those
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people themselves are telling us that these things are not sufficient to stop the virus.
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Dr. Daniel Griffin at Columbia, just one public health expert among many, but in a left-wing
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outlet, he admitted this. He told NPR, he said, in the studies, masks fail. Now you're not allowed
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to say that. Now you're not allowed to say that the masks are not particularly effective at stopping
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the virus, but listen to why, listen to why. He says, in the studies, masks fail. People don't use
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them correctly. They touch the front of it. They adjust it. They push it down. I mean, you can see,
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you know this all the time, probably from your personal life. How often are you washing your masks?
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Are you watching them every day? Are you washing them twice a day? Probably not. For a lot of
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people, they have the same dirty mask. They shove it in their pocket. When they walk into a restaurant,
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they have to put it on. When you use a mask that way, when you're touching your face,
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when you're actually, Dr. Fauci, early on when he was telling people at that point not to wear masks,
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because masks, he said, were useless against the virus. This is before he changed his mind and said
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people should wear masks. But he said that the reason is that you put the mask on and all of a sudden
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you're touching your face a lot more, which actually could undermine the effectiveness of
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the masks. So I'm willing to say, just for the sake of argument, let's say that the masks could
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have a 100% effective rate. They don't. No study shows they have a 100% effective rate, not even
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close. But let's just say that they did for the sake of argument. My argument against the masks is not a
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scientific argument. It's a political argument. Because in order for that 100% effective rate to
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matter, people have to use the masks correctly, which they will not. They simply won't. And Jake
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Tapper can cry on CNN all he wants about the mean old Republicans who aren't wearing their masks right.
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By the way, a lot of Democrats aren't wearing their masks right either. But regardless, if your
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policy requires people to behave 100% perfectly all of the time, that's not much of a policy at all.
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That policy, this is the classic leftist mistake, is they're ignoring human nature.
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They think that they can overcome human nature. If the masks only work in this utopian world,
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then the masks don't work. And that's exactly what this doctor from Columbia is telling NPR.
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The masks fail in the studies. Sure, maybe it's because humans aren't using it correctly. But guess
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what? The policies are for humans. Dr. Fauci admitted the same principle beyond the masks when
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it comes to the vaccines. And we've all been waiting on this vaccine. We went from flatten the
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curve to find a cure, to find a vaccine. We've all been waiting on this a long time. And it has
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but that was a great segue. Forget about those masks, okay? Just put the masks aside for a
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second. Turn to the vaccines. Dr. Fauci was being interviewed by CNN. He was asked about the
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effectiveness of the vaccine because when we're talking now, now we sound like we're just trying
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to find a cure. And then finally, when we have a cure, then we can reopen the country. Even though
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that's a utopian quest in and of itself. But we have this idea that the vaccine is going to solve
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everything. Vaccines are not 100% effective. Actually, when we're talking about this vaccine,
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even if we got super duper lucky we found the greatest vaccine, you're still talking about 70%
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effectiveness? I doubt seriously that any vaccine will ever be 100% protected. The best we've ever done
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is measles, which is 97 to 98% effective. Oh, that would be wonderful if we get there. I don't
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think we will. I would settle for a 70, 75% effective vaccine because that would bring you to that level
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of would be herd immunity level. Okay. Well, that sounds pretty good. If we could look, I mean,
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you're still saying 30% of people are going to, they're going to get this vaccine and it's not going
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to be effective and they're going to get COVID and God forbid what happens. So 30%, that's a lot
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of people, right? However, then you could, if you get to 70, 75%, then you're at that herd immunity
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level. You know, that, that herd immunity is when the virus has already run through the population.
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And so the population then is stronger and more resilient against it. Some countries who had
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intelligent policies on COVID early on, like Sweden, for example, pursued that idea. They said,
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we're not going to weaken our immunities. We're not going to just hide away in a Purell bubble for the
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next year of our lives. We're going to go out and treat this like we treat other viruses and we'll
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see what happens. They were told that the whole country was going to get absolutely knocked down
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by the virus. Actually, they're doing quite well and we'll see how they do into the future because
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obviously once you achieve that goal early on, that has better effects down the line. But okay,
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70, 75%, you get to that herd immunity. That's great. So we'll get the vaccine. We'll get the 70,
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75%. We'll get the herd immunity. Then we're all good, right? Ah, Fauci says not so fast.
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If only say 70, 75% of Americans are willing to get the vaccine and it's only say, I think you just
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said 70, 75% effective, is that going to get us to herd immunity? Unlikely. And that's one of the
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reasons why we have to make sure we engage the community as we're doing now to get community
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people to help us, for people to understand that we are doing everything we can to show that it's safe
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and that it's effective. And it's for the good of them as individuals and in society to take the
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vaccine. So we have a lot of work to do because as you well know, we've spoken about this intensively
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in the past. There is a general anti-science, anti-authority, anti-vaccine feeling among some
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people in this country, an alarmingly large percentage of people, relatively speaking.
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I think there's an anti-politics problem that's going on among the public health experts.
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I think, I think, I don't think it's the anti-science problem among the people. I think
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it's the anti-politics. It's the anti-philosophical. It's the anti-human nature problem that's going on
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in our scientific community. He says 70, 75% effective vaccine. We've got herd immunity.
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So the woman says, okay, but what if some people don't take the vaccine? He goes, oh yeah,
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well then we're not going to get herd immunity. Yeah. She goes, what if only 70, 75% of people
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take the vaccine that's only 70, 75% effective? He goes, yeah, then we're not going to get herd
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immunity. So then we're not going to get herd immunity, buddy. That's how it works.
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I get it. In your ideal utopian world, you could force everybody to get the vaccine and then you
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get a hundred percent use of it and then you get 70, 75% and then you got herd immunity.
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But we're not living in that world. We don't have a country where you can just force people who
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don't want to take a vaccine to take it. At least, at least not in this particular case, right?
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So, so then what? So then it doesn't work. So then I know people are castigated for saying
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the vaccine won't be as effective as they're promising, for saying the masks won't be as
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effective as they're promising. It's not because of any scientific claim. It's a political claim.
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Human nature has something to say here. No scientist had ever proposed some policy that
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was going to stop the virus. Okay. You remember the point of the lockdowns was flatten the curve so
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that we don't overwhelm the hospitals. We never came close to overwhelming the hospitals.
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The Javits Center emergency hospital in New York was mostly empty. The hospital ship that was sent
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to New York by the federal government was sent home. Same thing happened in California.
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Good. We didn't, we didn't, but flattening the curve doesn't reduce the number of cases.
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The point of this is there are limits to politics. There is no magical policy that is going to stop
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the virus in its tracks or stop the flu or stop the common cold or stop anything else.
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Every utopian policy in history has been much worse, much worse than the disease that it promised
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to cure. And the, the, the left, because they can't get past human nature, because they keep
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running up against this, they say, but people aren't doing what I want them to do. They're not
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behaving perfectly. Mind you, these leftists don't behave perfectly themselves, do they?
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Right. Even notice the, the, the, these left wingers are pretending that if Trump had just
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worn the mask, no one would get the virus. A lot of left wingers who have worn the mask have gotten
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the virus. Now they would blame other people to say, well, because it's other people aren't
00:24:19.300
wearing the mask. Well, because other people haven't locked down. Well, because other people
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went to work. Okay, fine. Sure. Reality contradicted your theory. Reality contradicted your model
00:24:31.340
because human nature is human nature and the left doesn't like human nature. So now they're
00:24:35.600
openly wishing that president Trump would die. Now this is, this is what happens when you've got
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spot. Democrats now openly wishing that Trump dies. Zahra Rahim, a former Obama official who also worked
00:26:23.700
on Clinton's presidential campaign, Hillary, not Bill. She tweets out after the president was
00:26:29.820
diagnosed, quote, it's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years,
00:26:34.860
but I hope he dies. And then she's got little stars around the dies, dies. Imagine saying that.
00:26:42.520
Imagine saying that about a fellow person. And this is not just some low level staffer, right? This is
00:26:49.660
an Obama administration official and a high level Clinton presidential official. Imagine if any
00:26:54.660
Republican said this about a Democrat, about the, about the Democratic president, about Barack Obama.
00:26:59.500
Can you imagine it'd be wall to wall coverage? This probably you're only hearing on this show.
00:27:03.480
Max Berger, former staffer for Elizabeth Warren. I can't think of anything more distasteful than
00:27:07.660
wishing death upon another human, except maybe causing preventable mass death because you don't want
00:27:12.040
to damage the stock market or your reelection chances. All jokes aside, I hope the president
00:27:16.500
injects himself with bleach. It's a Liz Warren staffer. By the way, when these people say that
00:27:22.320
Trump has made the virus worse and he caused preventable mass death and all this, ask him
00:27:26.740
how? Ask those people, how did he do that? What did he do? As far as I can tell, people are mostly
00:27:34.480
trying their best in this country. Even the governors and the mayors, they're trying their best. Some have
00:27:38.980
way overreacted, but they're trying their best to protect public health. And most of the policy
00:27:45.620
decisions are defensible. With one exception, Andrew Cuomo in New York sending sick people
00:27:50.760
into nursing homes. That one is absolutely indefensible. Andrew Cuomo, the Democratic governor,
00:27:56.280
darling of the Democratic Party, does have to come to account for that. Other than that,
00:28:02.380
I don't see any example anywhere in the country, but they're convinced Trump is killing people.
00:28:07.660
So what does this mean for Trump? Well, there's a very interesting poll that is just out. The left is
00:28:13.940
celebrating this poll, but they shouldn't. They shouldn't get too cocky because they only read
00:28:17.220
the headline. They didn't read what it really means. This poll could be very, very good news
00:28:22.560
for President Trump. And it's reminding me of that 2016 election when those polls allegedly looked so
00:28:30.180
good for Hillary Clinton. We'll get to what those polls mean in just a second. We will get to a
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A new NBC News Wall Street Journal poll shows that Biden is up 14 points nationally. Uh-oh.
00:29:53.300
Uh-oh. I don't like that. 53 to 39. Biden up 14 points nationally in early October.
00:29:59.300
But I had deja vu. I don't know what it was. Reading that number, I got deja vu.
00:30:03.600
So I took a look. Molly Hemingway posted this. This is from October 5th. No, I'm sorry. October
00:30:11.820
10th, 2016. Uh, this was, uh, posted at CBS News poll. Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 14
00:30:19.000
points nationally. The same number at the same time. And do you know what that number meant
00:30:26.540
in 2016? That number and a buck 50 would get you a cup of coffee. That number was absolutely
00:30:32.660
worthless. Because even though Hillary, she was supposed to have the huge lead, uh, she didn't.
00:30:38.720
And she lost. Very often the left will use polls to demoralize Republicans and try to convince them
00:30:46.180
that it's not even worth showing up to vote because we've already lost. That's what they did in 2016.
00:30:50.700
And they were wrong. But this poll is a little more interesting than that because it shows Biden
00:30:56.280
up 14 points nationally, but it shows Trump gaining in the key swing states. So he's losing
00:31:03.160
ground nationally, but he's gaining in the swing states. The national poll doesn't matter.
00:31:10.780
This election is not held at the national level. It's held at the state level. And then you win the
00:31:16.540
states and you get the electors and then you tally those up and you see who wins.
00:31:21.640
All that matters are those swing states. It doesn't matter how many people in California and New York
00:31:26.880
don't like Trump. The Democrats are already going to win those states. So you look at those swing
00:31:32.080
states, Florida, Pennsylvania, Trump is gaining very, very good news. Democrats are very, very upset
00:31:39.500
about this. The left wing edifice is very upset about this. The blob, the establishment. So they go back
00:31:45.760
to their favorite old strategy. They go back to race hustling. This time, I don't know what is
00:31:50.300
going on at Fox, but this was a Fox news reporter, John Roberts, who approached the press secretary,
00:31:57.120
Kayleigh McEnany, and demanded that President Trump condemn white supremacy.
00:32:02.700
I'd like to ask you for a definitive and declarative statement without ambiguity or deflection.
00:32:10.380
As the person who speaks for the president, does the president denounce white supremacism and groups
00:32:17.240
that espouse it in all their forms? This has been answered yesterday by the president himself,
00:32:22.860
the day before by the president himself on the debate stage. The president was asked this. He said,
00:32:27.160
I've always denounced any form of that. I can go back and read for you in August 2019. In one voice,
00:32:40.660
our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. In August of 2017, racism is evil and
00:32:46.800
those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white
00:32:51.760
supremacists, and other hate groups. I have an entire list of these quotes that I can go through with you.
00:32:55.800
He has condemned white supremacy more than any president in modern history.
00:33:00.020
Just to clear it up this morning, can you, naming it, make a declarative statement that you
00:33:06.100
denounced, that the president denounces it? I just did. The president has denounced this
00:33:10.120
repeatedly. The president was asked this. You're making, you're contriving a storyline and a narrative.
00:33:15.720
I'm just asking you to put this to rest. Wow. That is the most hack journalism I have ever seen.
00:33:23.860
And it wasn't CNN and it wasn't MSNBC. That was a Fox News guy who like a complete empty suit hack
00:33:33.980
says, does the president condemn white supremacy? She goes, yeah, I'm going to read you a 10th of the
00:33:39.080
times he's condemned it. We played a montage, just a short montage on our show on Thursday.
00:33:44.740
She goes, so yeah, I think it's pretty clear. He's condemned white supremacy
00:33:47.960
dozens and dozens of times. And he goes, yes, but, but are you willing to, to, just to clarify or to
00:33:54.000
clarify what to clarify? Is there, are you kidding me? He's done it dozens of times. She just read it
00:33:58.640
to you. Yes, but he, you're not, you're just, you're reading old quotes, but I want you to do
00:34:03.320
it now. Do it now. Do say what I want you to say. Dance monkey dance. That's what the left is telling
00:34:07.980
you. That's why I just reject the question. You know, we we've done shows. It's funny. We did a show a
00:34:14.340
little while ago. Why is racism wrong? Cause you hear so much nonsense about racism that you forget
00:34:18.940
why racism, racism is wrong because it's an offense against human dignity. That's it. It's very simple.
00:34:23.440
That's it. Okay. We got it. Good. Flip that away. Now, now you know why racism is wrong. You don't
00:34:28.600
need to constantly be reciting these things. The reason that the left does this is to make you say
00:34:35.600
what they want you to say. It's not about the content of what you're saying. It's about the act of
00:34:41.080
them imposing that on you. It's a similar question would be, uh, Kaylee, is the president willing to
00:34:48.680
say that he no longer beats his wife? Um, John, the president does not, has never beat his wife.
00:34:53.660
He does not. Uh, Kaylee, you're deflecting. Can the president please definitively say that he no
00:34:58.480
longer beats his wife. And by, by accepting that premise that you somehow have to condemn white
00:35:05.440
supremacy, that you somehow are implicated in white supremacy or whatever, whatever the new phrase is,
00:35:10.300
bigotry, then you have given the left that point. And Kaylee handled it wonderfully. And this guy,
00:35:19.080
I mean, just absolutely pathetic. And then he goes on Fox news later and does some more grandstanding.
00:35:24.380
He's like little mini Jim Acosta over here. Take a listen to his temper tantrum for all of you on
00:35:29.180
Twitter who were hammering me for answering that quite for asking that question. I don't care
00:35:33.520
because it's a question that needs to be asked. And clearly the president's Republican colleagues a mile
00:35:39.580
away from here are looking for an answer for it too. So stop deflecting, stop blaming the media.
00:35:53.180
I'm tired of it. I'm, I'm tired. It's a question that needs to be asked. It's only been asked 7 million
00:35:57.900
times and he's answered it clearly every single time. I'm not, stop it. Stop being so mean to the
00:36:03.880
media. We're trying to destroy this president and lie about him. And you're not letting us Kaylee.
00:36:08.960
What ridiculous trash. By the way, by the way, President Trump asked to do this again and again
00:36:13.360
and again, he goes on Sean Hannity's show. He called in and he was asked, do you condemn white
00:36:18.600
supremacy? He goes, yes, I condemn white supremacy. He went even so far that he condemned the proud boys
00:36:22.900
and people are reacting in a mixed way to his condemnation of the proud boys. If you listen
00:36:28.820
carefully though, it's kind of funny. I have to say, I've said it many times and let me be clear
00:36:33.140
again. I condemn the KKK. I condemn all white supremacists. I condemn the proud boys. I don't
00:36:40.420
know much about the proud boys, almost nothing, but I condemn that. But he should condemn also Antifa.
00:36:47.760
Antifa is a horrible group of people. They kill people. They, what they do to people and they're
00:36:53.120
causing insurrection. They're causing riots. He doesn't want to do that, but the press doesn't go
00:36:57.840
after him. And that's a really bad group of people, but I condemn them. And if I can,
00:37:02.660
if I say it a hundred, if I say it a hundred times, it won't be enough because it's fake news.
00:37:08.400
True. That is it. If he says it a hundred times, it won't be enough because it's fake news,
00:37:12.300
not just the story, right? That the issue with fake news is not just that they run fake stories.
00:37:16.460
It's that they are not the news. John Roberts is not a reporter. John Roberts is a hack operative
00:37:23.320
who is, it's very clear. I didn't, I didn't follow the guy very closely before,
00:37:27.140
but to see that ridiculous performance, that vaudevillian performance there, you just realize,
00:37:33.460
oh, this guy is not interested in the news or the story. He's just putting on a show and trying to
00:37:38.160
give the Democrats a point. That's what makes it fake news. So Trump calls in, he says, yeah,
00:37:43.600
I condemn white supremacists and the KKK and the proud boys. Now we know the proud boys aren't white
00:37:49.880
supremacists. We covered this on the show on Thursday, just by definition, because their
00:37:53.500
leader is a black Cuban guy. So he's a very confused white supremacist if he's a white
00:37:58.880
supremacist. And the proud boys said explicitly in the statement, we condemn racism and fascism
00:38:04.720
and communism and socialism. Much more than you can say about Antifa or BLM, by the way,
00:38:09.560
who openly embrace socialism and communism and who embrace a form of racism and who dress up like
00:38:17.480
fascists. Right? So it's actually the, the proud boys, not analogous at all, but in Trump's
00:38:22.620
condemnation here is, yeah, I can, I condemn this guy, I condemn that guy and I condemn the proud
00:38:26.960
boys. I don't know who the proud boys are, but I'm told I have to condemn them. So I condemn them.
00:38:31.300
It's a little, you know, it's a little bit clever. It's a little too clever by half. I don't know
00:38:35.940
that I would have condemned them in that I would have said, I don't know who the proud boys are.
00:38:39.840
I don't, I don't follow them. They, it doesn't seem like they're white supremacists to me.
00:38:44.160
I would question the premise, but then the headline of course would be president Trump
00:38:49.460
refuses to condemn the proud boys. So he got his point in a little bit, the back way. He goes,
00:38:53.720
I totally condemn the proud boys. I have no idea who they are, but yeah, you, okay, fine.
00:38:58.380
Will he condemn Antifa? So he deprives them of that headline, but of course Biden is not going to
00:39:03.900
condemn Antifa. Now in terms of white supremacy, what is the state of things? We're being told that
00:39:09.060
there are racial hate crimes all over the place and you know, black lives are being hunted down and
00:39:16.260
LeBron James says he can't leave his home without being hunted down, right? In reality, that's not
00:39:20.300
true. A lot of it is a hoax. Madison, Wisconsin, there was a hate crime investigation. It was pretty
00:39:26.440
big. It had been making the rounds about this 18 year old biracial woman who said that she was
00:39:32.800
attacked by a group of four white men who threw flammable liquid on her and set her on fire and
00:39:38.980
screamed racial slurs at her. And it didn't happen. None of it happened. They investigated it. They
00:39:45.560
found no evidence that it happened. Now the family is saying, okay, well, you know, please respect our
00:39:50.060
privacy at this time because it was obviously completely fake, which most people suspected
00:39:54.680
from the beginning because there wasn't a lot of evidence from the beginning. So that is a racial hate
00:39:59.480
crime hoax. You're not going to hear about it. It will not be in the mainstream media.
00:40:03.200
There's another racial hate crime issue going on over at Ohio State University. Ohio State University,
00:40:11.620
the university has to report when there are these kinds of safety incidents on campus.
00:40:16.440
So they send out an email and it says that a guy, a white guy was walking on the street and a black guy
00:40:23.480
called him a racial slur. Then they started speaking and then the black guy comes over and punches him in the
00:40:28.220
head. And then the, the white guy runs away. So he just, they post about this. That, you know,
00:40:33.400
if you've, if you're in college or you're going to college, you often will get these emails from
00:40:37.160
the chief of police saying, say, okay, there was this incident just letting you know, don't go to
00:40:40.220
this area. Right. Two other students had a similar report. Uh, they report a similar incident. One was
00:40:46.380
that a black female in an off campus area pulls up next to the victims, screams a racial slur at them.
00:40:51.520
The students ignore the driver. Then she followed them. Then she got out of her car. She attacked a
00:40:55.920
female OSU student and a black male who police believe is the same black guy who punched the
00:41:00.440
white guy in the face, uh, attacked the other, the other male student there. So just a few of
00:41:05.340
these incidents, right? The students are protesting because they're obviously they care so much about
00:41:09.780
racial justice, but they're not protesting over the incident. They're protesting that the incident was
00:41:13.920
reported because they're saying that by reporting on the racial hate crime, that is a rate that is in
00:41:20.800
itself racial bigotry against black people. So if you report on a crime where a black guy yells a racial
00:41:26.520
slur at a white guy and punches him, if you report on that, then actually you are committing violence
00:41:31.980
against black people somehow. They write the details of this incident were shared in OSU's public safety
00:41:38.020
notice and do not meet the legal definition of a hate crime. I think they do to refer to it as such
00:41:43.200
solely because the alleged perpetrators used a racial slur is illogical. Racial slurs referring to
00:41:47.900
white people are not based on a history of violence and oppression towards white people.
00:41:54.340
Using this slur does not have the same violent racist implications as a white person saying the
00:41:58.860
N word, for example, nor does this make this incident a hate crime. So the long and short of
00:42:03.780
that, if you want to get through that gobbledygook is that black people can't be racist against white
00:42:08.140
people. That's the conclusion. You say, well, what if they're, but what if they're being racist
00:42:11.160
against white people? You say, no, they're not. They're not. La la la, right? It's my, my theory is more
00:42:16.280
important than your reality. That's what they say. While we're talking about racial grievance,
00:42:20.640
we do have to mention before we go some gender grievance too. The United Nations posted a real,
00:42:27.020
a real magnificent tweet the other day. This was a work of art in the ridiculous leftist Twitter game.
00:42:36.380
UN Women, which is a separate account, tweets out, how to not be a mansplainer. You know,
00:42:43.480
a mansplainer. They say, you can avoid being a mansplainer by asking yourself these questions.
00:42:50.280
Did she indicate any desire to hear this information? Is it possible that she knows
00:42:55.060
more about this topic than I do? Did I read the room before starting to speak?
00:43:01.060
Did I, and then it gives the definition of mansplaining. I cannot wait to mansplain to these
00:43:07.960
people how we defunded this stupid organization. I am going to be so excited. If I ever have any
00:43:15.020
degree of political influence in this area where I can deal with the UN, I am going to build the most
00:43:23.740
beautiful waterfront condominiums there. Well, maybe we'll, we'll, we'll lease out the Trump name.
00:43:30.220
It'll be nice, big Trump luxury condominiums because surely that would do more good for the world
00:43:35.020
than this stupid organization, the United Nations, which accomplishes nothing good,
00:43:41.760
lots of bad things, wastes a lot of time and grievance mongers. And the United Nations itself
00:43:48.600
is part of this problem we've been talking about all day. This problem of the perfect utopian theory
00:43:55.580
coming up against the reality. Cause the UN in theory, what you get all the nations of the world to come
00:43:59.800
together and we deliberate and we all figure out how to live together and kumbaya and we all live
00:44:05.320
in peace. In reality, what the UN does is empowers the worst people in the world. It puts the worst
00:44:11.220
regimes on earth that slaughter their own people, puts them on the human rights council. It gets all
00:44:17.400
of these awful, it invites the worst tin pot dictators in the world to come to the United States. We pay for
00:44:22.380
most of the thing and, or the, at least the lion's share of the thing. And they criticize America.
00:44:29.000
Why do we do that? Because the people who established the United Nations are the same
00:44:35.120
people who think we can overcome human nature. We can, I mean, this is the progressive project,
00:44:40.020
right? The kind of more conservative and traditional idea is that human nature is fixed. It's not changing.
00:44:46.400
There are certain laws of the universe and we need to govern ourselves in accordance with that.
00:44:52.060
That's what the entire Federalist Papers is about. Then progressivism comes in and says,
00:44:56.580
oh, forget all that. That was all written in the age of Newton, where we thought there were
00:44:59.580
eternal truths and fixed laws. But we're in the age of Darwin, where we know everything's evolving
00:45:03.580
and there's no fixed human nature and we can evolve toward utopia. And that's what they think
00:45:08.340
they're going to do. And they're going to make you evolve toward utopia, damn it. They're going to
00:45:12.040
make you evolve toward utopia or you are going to die trying because sometimes you got to crack a few
00:45:17.440
eggs to make an omelet. I think that's where a lot of this rancor comes from.
00:45:23.220
They're going after everybody. They're going after Melania for goodness sakes. Did you hear
00:45:28.380
how they're going after Melania? They found a secret tape. Some, some woman betrays her friend
00:45:33.980
Melania and releases tapes of phone calls that they've had in which Melania is sort of venting
00:45:41.040
about the negative press that she gets and how she's very unfairly criticized. She leaks it,
00:45:46.440
plays it on CNN. They say I'm uncomplicit. I'm the same like him. I support him. I don't say
00:45:53.120
enough. I don't do enough. Where I am, I put the, I'm working like a, ask my ass on Christmas stuff
00:46:01.240
that, you know, who gives a about Christmas stuff and decoration, but I need to do it, right?
00:46:06.280
Yeah, but a hundred percent. You have no choice. And okay. And then I do it. And I say that I'm
00:46:12.940
working on Christmas, planning for the Christmas. And they said, Oh, what about the children that
00:46:17.900
they were separated? Give me a break. Where they were saying anything when Obama did that?
00:46:24.880
I know. I cannot go. I, I was trying to get the kid reunited with the mom. I didn't have a chance.
00:46:34.060
It needs to go through the process and through the law. I love her. I love her. I would,
00:46:40.840
I would charge into battle for that woman. She is so great. She's so elegant. She's funny,
00:46:46.480
apparently too. I didn't realize that. I love that thing that I'm doing. They're criticizing me with
00:46:50.900
the Christmas decorations. Who gives, come on the Christmas. I'm doing my best. And it's true.
00:46:56.280
She's being completely unfairly criticized. They're accusing her of separating children or whatever.
00:47:00.500
They go after Trump for, for an Obama era policy. Actually, it was a policy that was used under
00:47:04.880
Obama. It actually goes all the way back to Bill Clinton's administration, but you never heard peep
00:47:09.400
about it until Donald Trump comes around. And they say all sorts of horrible things about this woman.
00:47:14.280
And now they're hoping that she and her husband die. At least they're explicitly saying they want
00:47:19.580
her husband to die. These are, these are big Democrat staffers saying that. Isn't it so funny
00:47:25.780
that the left, which talks about how they just want to save humanity. They love humanity,
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the virus, they're going to stop the virus and save mankind. While they're wishing for the
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salvation of humanity, they're wishing for the death of individual humans. And that's so weird.
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That's, that's what they always do. They want to save the world from global warming. They want to
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save the world from this. They want to save the world from that. Humanity, but not individual humans.
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They hate individual humans very often, as you see from what they're tweeting at the president,
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sort of things they're doing to individual Republicans. And they, they hate those individual
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humans because they hate human nature. Humanity in the abstract, they like very much, but that
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humanity has nothing to do with humans because it ignores human nature and their politics ignores human
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nature. And they get more and more frustrated as their utopian schemes don't work because utopia means
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no place at all. You know, topia place, no place. It doesn't exist. And they are going to keep banging
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their heads against the wall, trying to make their manifestos and their ideologies work. And human nature
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is going to remain the same, stubborn, and they are going to get angrier and angrier and angrier. We were
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hoping they could draw some right conclusions for president Trump's diagnosis, but not at all. Can't let
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