Ep. 647 - Alternative Universes
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Al Sharpton joins me on the show to talk about the alternate universe of fact-free information being pumped into the world by the right wing of the media, including Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, and other mainstream news outlets.
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If you watch CNN or MSNBC, which I do not recommend, but if you do, you will soon discover
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that conservatives and leftists, Republicans and Democrats are living in what increasingly
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seems like completely different universes, completely different framings, understandings
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of the world. Now, this would especially be true, you would think, for the party and the group of
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people who believe that babies are not babies, that men are women, that up is down, that left
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is right. But the left seems to believe that it is we Republicans, we conservatives, we right-wingers
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who are the lunatics. Nicole Wallace decided to talk about the fact-free right wing with, of all
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people, Al Sharpton. I was off a couple of days last week and I tuned in to a little bit of Fox
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News in prime time and was aghast. I mean, they are pumping flagrant lies into the millions of viewers
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on their network. They are saying, they are interviewing these lunatics, they call them
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lawyers, I'm not sure how any of them have law degrees, who are saying that there are a million
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votes here and observers not here. These cases have been filed. They have gone before judges who
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are Democratic and Republican appointees and they've all been thrown out. I mean, do you share President
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Obama's concern about this alternate universe of fact-free information that's being pumped into
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Trump's space? I shared absolutely and then some. We can have in any political climate different
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opinions, but we can't have different facts. We are now in a nation where facts don't matter. You make
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up facts and not only do you have an alternative reality, how do you debate someone that is dealing
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from a totally fictitious premise? How do you debate someone who is coming from a totally
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fictitious premise? Says Al Sharpton, one of the most famous liars in American politics on MSNBC,
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which has lied and gotten everything wrong for the past four years. We will examine how we got to the
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alternative universes and how to come back home. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Jane DeBelleville. What a lovely
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name that is. From Jane who says, censorship on social media for the left is the equivalent of
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book burning on a massive, massive scale. This is true. And actually the left is engaging in book
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burning right now, explicitly talking about how great it would be to burn books. One book in particular,
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which we touched on a little bit yesterday, a book that argues against transing the kids,
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turning little boys into looking more like little girls. But I actually think the right gets the idea
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of book burning and censorship a little bit wrong. I think they're kind of misstating their argument.
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And as a result of that, we're giving the left more of an opportunity to attack us. We will get all
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at checkout. Alternative universes. You know, Nicole Wallace doesn't have any credibility when
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she mentions this on MSNBC. MSNBC has been running conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory for the
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past four years. Starting with the Russia hoax, denying the, the spying activities of the Obama
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administration on the Trump campaign. Then going to the tax returns. You remember they said Trump
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has evaded taxes. We have them here. And then Rachel Maddow opens them on the air and it turns out
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he actually paid his taxes. So they don't have any credibility, but she could have gotten away with it
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had she not then turned to Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton who launched his career on a lie. People forget this
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now, but Al Sharpton really burst to national prominence with the Tawana Brawley hoax. That was
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a rape hoax in, what was it? The nineties where this gal accused these men of raping her. It became
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very racially charged and it was just complete BS. And Al Sharpton has lied about so many other things.
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He has no regard for the truth whatsoever. He is a cynic. I mean, he's a true cynic where I don't even
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know that he's a liar so much as he just doesn't, doesn't care at all whether something is true or false.
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But the point that they're getting at sort of hilariously depicts this, this different framing
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that we have. The left is looking at the country through a completely different angle than the
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right is right now. And the right is more correct than the left is, but we need to understand how
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the framing works. I think sometimes we get a little too comfortable on the right, just talking about
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facts, you know, just talking about the raw, raw material as though we don't have interpretive
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lenses ourselves. I'll give you an example of this. I'll give you an example completely out of
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the partisan sphere. So completely out of, you know, Biden or Trump or politics. Harry Styles
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just put on a dress. Harry Styles wore a dress. I don't even really know who Harry Styles is. I kind
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of recognize the name. What is he, a singer or an actor or something like that? He's some show
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business guy. And he takes this picture wearing a very silly dress. But as far as I can tell,
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he's not wearing the dress ironically. He's wearing the dress earnestly. And Candace Owens,
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my friend and now colleague, Candace Owens, tweets out, there is no society that can survive without
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strong men. The East knows this and the West, the steady feminization of our men at the same time
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that Marxism is being taught to our children. It's not a coincidence. It's an outright attack,
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bring back manly men. And she trends for this on Twitter. People were so upset that she said this.
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How dare you suggest that Harry Styles can't wear a dress? Now, some people on the right,
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the more libertarian right, get this wrong. They say, who cares if he wears a dress? It has nothing
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to do with me. It has nothing to do with culture. You know, it doesn't have to do with politics.
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First of all, yes, it does. Yes, it does. We need to stop this silly thing that everybody can do
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whatever they want to do. And that has no political or cultural effect at all. First of all,
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it obviously has a cultural effect. If men start wearing dresses, that is a description of culture.
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What is culture? It involves our cultivation. It involves how we behave in the world.
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Right now, men wear suits, a little bit at least. They wear suits. That's just a cultural norm.
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Men, I guess, could wear dresses, but that would be a different culture. But moreover, it is political.
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Politics is just how we all get along together. I know we have a very narrow definition of politics
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now to just what certain departments of the government do, but that's not historically what
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politics is. And I think conservatives are very silly to adopt this narrow view of politics.
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Politics is just how we all get along together. So obviously, culture affects politics. Politics
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affects culture. It's a little bit of a blurry line. And it is political. When a public figure does
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something in public, that is a political statement. And the political statement here is that men ought to
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wear dresses. And it's something the right doesn't get either, because sometimes the right either gets
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too permissive or too moralizing about this. And the real answer is somewhere in the middle.
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I can't believe I even have to say this. It's so weird that our culture has decayed so much that I
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have to say this obvious truth. Men wearing dresses, dressing in drag, is funny because men are not
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supposed to wear dresses. It is funny. I know some people want to really moralize and say drag isn't
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funny. It's merely an abomination. It's merely the, okay, but it is kind of funny. It's funny
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because it's incongruous because men are not supposed to wear dresses. But you need that second
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part for it to be funny too. If you live in a world where you think men are supposed to wear dresses,
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then it's not funny, right? This is something the left managed to do. They somehow managed to make
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drag queens boring. I don't know how you do that. They somehow managed to make these crazy, insane
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parades. There's a parade in New York on Coney Island. I think it's called the Mermaid Parade.
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And it's where all these drag queens dress up in crazy costumes. And it's very weird. You know,
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that's the whole point of it is it's supposed to be weird. Now we're supposed to be told this
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is entirely normal, but it's not normal. Men are not in dresses. The fact that a man can put on
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all of the various accoutrement and adornments of womanhood, of femininity, and still be obviously a
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man is what makes it funny because it means that there is such a thing as masculinity. There is such a
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thing as manliness. You can dress it all up like a woman, but still you're a man.
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Well, we've lost sight of that now because we believe that men can be women and women can be
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men and gender is a social construct and sex isn't real, even though it's innate and our sexual
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dispositions are so innate, we can't change them. We're born this way. Obviously, there are so many
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contradictions here. There's no such thing as gender, but women are the future. The future is
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female. You say, wait a second, what? I thought there's no such thing as female or male. There's no
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such thing as men or women, but how the future is female. And this actually gets to Candace Owens' point.
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What Candace is saying is the left is attacking masculinity. And they say, no, we're not. How
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dare you? Of course the left is attacking masculinity. The left talks about toxic masculinity all the time.
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And they're not talking about just brutish machismo. They're talking about all masculinity
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as being toxic. The left says the future is female. How many times have you seen that t-shirt
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if you go into a city, if you're on a college campus? Be a feminist. We all need to be feminists.
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Not peopleists. Not humanists. Not anything that is all-encompassing of all people. Feminists,
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right? Because female is better than male. Women are better than men, according to this new pyramid
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of victimhood that the left has put forward. So you can't at the same time say, the future is female.
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Men are toxic. We need to get rid of masculinity. And also say, we're not attacking masculinity. Of
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course you are. That's the point Candace is making. And the thing is, everything she said is true.
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Society cannot exist without strong men. You need strong men, usually with guns,
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to protect your society from threats, from disorder, from violence. Violence from outside,
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invading armies, war, and violence within, from criminals. That's why you need cops. That's why
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you need the military. And if a society doesn't have those two things, they're not going to have
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any society at all. They're not going to have any civilization at all. Because you need law enforcement
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if you want the law to have any effect. And if you don't have law in a society, you don't have
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a civilized nation. Of course you need these things. There's nothing misogynist. There's nothing
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sexually chauvinistic about saying that men should act like men. There's nothing homophobic,
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transphobic, phobic, phobic, phobic, whatever. There are two words here that you can use to
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refer to someone who is acting like a woman. Womanly and womanish. Two words. They mean the
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same thing, don't they? No, they mean opposite things. When women act like women, the word we use
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is womanly. When men act like women, the word we use is womanish. It is good for women to be womanly.
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It is bad for men to be womanish. Why is that? Because people are supposed to do the things that
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they are supposed to do. And we on the right have lost a sense of this. We've lost a sense of what
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freedom really means. We've done exactly what the founding fathers told us not to do. The
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founding fathers said, do not confuse liberty and libertinism. Do not confuse liberty, which in the
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traditional definition is not the freedom to do what you want to do, but rather the right to do
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what you ought to do, oriented toward virtue. That's the traditional understanding of liberty.
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It's kind of, it's morphed over time. But even the founding fathers who were living during the
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height of say classical liberalism understood that virtue is essential here, doing what you
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ought to do, not being a libertine. Totally important. Now our understanding of liberty is,
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yeah, just do whatever you want. If it feels good, do it. There's nothing you're supposed to do at all
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because you think that I'm supposed to do one thing, but someone else might think I'm supposed to do
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another. So therefore there's no right answer, but there is a right answer. There is. And this,
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this difference of framework is leading to so much of our confusion, even on the issue of free
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speech, which we'll get to in a second, even on the issue of censorship and book burning and all of
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that. We are supposed to do certain things. Should a man hold a door for a woman? Yes. Why? Because
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it's polite, because men are physically stronger. It's the right thing to do. Should a man pick up the
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tab? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think that's a good norm. I think that's a good
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more, but we're inverting that. We're getting rid of that sort of thing. I looked at the Senate the
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other day. This was just yesterday. They were having a debate over, it wasn't even a debate over
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masks, but it became a debate over masks. And I realized that the womanish Sherrod Brown is exactly
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the kind of man that, exactly the kind of problem that Candace Owens was talking about. Because on the
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floor of the U.S. Senate, what is supposed to be the greatest deliberative body in the world,
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it broke out into bickering over who was going to wear a filthy cloth mask over their face.
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Senator from Ohio. I'd start by asking the presiding officer to please wear a mask
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as he speaks. And people below him are, I can't tell you what to do, but I know that the behavior.
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I don't wear a mask when I'm speaking, like most senators. Well, most senators.
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I don't need your instruction from. I know you don't need my instruction, but there clearly isn't
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much interest in this body in public health. We have a president who hasn't shown up at the
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coronavirus task force meeting in months. We have a majority leader that calls us back here
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to vote on an unqualified nominee and at the same time to vote for judge after judge after judge,
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exposing all the people who can't say anything. I understand the people in front of you and the
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presiding officer and expose all the staff here. And the, the majority leader just doesn't seem to
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care. That is so embarrassing for Sherrod Brown. Sherrod Brown should be very ashamed of himself.
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His family should be very ashamed to share a last name with that individual.
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He shows up to the floor of the United States Senate where you were supposed to make
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persuasive speeches, grand oratory on the important public matters of the day. And what does he choose
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to do? He chooses to whine and nag and passive aggressively needle the presiding Senator here,
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that would be a Republican Dan Sullivan for not wearing a cloth mask when he's many, many, many,
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many, many feet away from anybody. Even let's just say for a minute that the masks are like super
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duper effective. Let's just, let's go with that hypothetical. Dan Sullivan, not wearing a mask when
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he's so far away from everybody, ain't going to do anything. It doesn't matter at all. But Sherrod
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Brown, I want to, you need to wear a mask. I can't tell what everyone else what to do, but I'm telling
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you what to do. But actually he can't. Sherrod Brown has no right to tell Dan Sullivan what to do,
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especially as he's presiding over this, this hearing. And, and Dan Sullivan responds in a manly
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way. He goes, you don't, you don't get to lecture me about anything. No, I'm going to sit here
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without my mask as I'm speaking like an adult. So no, sorry. Yeah. And you're, and you're making
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us vote. Right. That's your job. You're a Senator. Your job is to vote. Yeah. And you're making us
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vote on unqualified candidates. Okay. If you think the candidate's unqualified, make a speech about
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that. Don't just nag and needle and whine. It's pathetic. I feel like I'm Don Corleone talking to
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Johnny Fontaine. I want to shake Sherrod Brown and say, you're going to act like a man. What's the matter
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with you? What's the matter with this guy? What's the matter with our culture? That is not how men are
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supposed to behave. It's not how women are supposed to behave. And it's certainly men should not be
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doing a very caricatured, ridiculous impression of, of such a woman-ish sort of behavior. It's
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Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S. So, so pathetic. Also, they have more pressing matters. Even, again, let's say that
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the masks are super duper effective. Fine. Let's say that. Let's say that Sherrod Brown
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actually is somewhat at risk. He has gone to the Senate ostensibly to work on public policy
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to make life better for the people, to actually sacrifice a little bit from his personal life
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so that he can give to the public, so he can serve the public. And all he does is get up there and
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whine about his personal safety, which is not at risk from Dan Sullivan all that far away,
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not wearing a cloth mask during a virus that has an extraordinarily high survival rate.
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But even if it, again, even if it were dangerous to him, this prioritization of, of one's personal
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comfort and safety over the public in the U.S. Senate, for goodness sakes, very, very unmanly.
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Very much proves Candace Owens' point. And the Senate is really at risk here, by the way.
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Do you want more of Sherrod Brown in the Senate or less? Right now, the Senate is run by Republicans.
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It could be run by Democrats. It seriously could. It looked on election night, you know, when all the,
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all the legally counted votes were coming in, when the poll watchers were there,
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looked very clear that Republicans were going to hold the Senate. And then, you know, middle of the
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night people start counting. I mean, David Schaefer, who's the head of the Georgia GOP said that they,
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they closed down vote counting at 1030 at night. And then poll watchers went home and then they
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illegally kept counting the votes until the wee hours of the morning. Well, when those votes came
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in, all of a sudden, all the races tightened up. The Senate is up for grabs and it's going to come
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down to Georgia. Two Senate races in Georgia, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, two Republicans.
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They're running against really bad hombres. Well, John Ossoff, John Ossoff is that Democrat who lost
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a congressional seat and Hollywood poured a ton of money into him. They made him a big deal. He was
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like Beto 1.0 and then he lost. And then what do you do? And as a Democrat, you fail up. So then he
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runs for Senate. He loses again, but then they find some votes. And so now there's going to be a runoff.
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John Ossoff is just kind of a joke and hopefully he loses. But there's another guy running who's,
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who's like a really bad guy. His name is Raphael Warnock. He's running against Kelly Loeffler.
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Kelly Loeffler was weakened a little bit in her Senate race because there were some accusations of
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some financial problems or whatever. It was all kind of murky, but anyway, it weakened her a little
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bit in the race. Raphael Warnock is a pastor, I take it, of some denomination. And he's a real radical.
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This guy said just a few years ago in 2016 that America needs to repent for its worship of
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whiteness. No matter what happens next month, more than a third of the nation that would go along
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with this is reason to be afraid. America needs to repent for its worship of whiteness
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on full display this season. How is it that you can insult everybody? Call Muslims something other than
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children of God? Call Mexicans murderers and rapists? Insult the disabled? How is it you can insult
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everybody? But then one weekend, somebody discovers in the recording that you insult those
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whose daughters and wives look like those who have been supporting you. And then all of a sudden,
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we can't take it anymore. Repent for the worship of whiteness.
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The worship of whiteness. So what he's talking about there is Donald Trump. He says Trump is,
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you know, he's a white, basically he's implying he's a white supremacist or white identitarian of
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some sort. And he's insulting all the people of other races, which is obviously not true because
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Donald Trump outperformed Mitt Romney in 2016 among black and Latino voters. But moreover,
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he increased his support among black and Latino voters substantially in 2020. From all the numbers
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that we have out from the 2020 election, I know it's still being counted. All the numbers we have
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out, he gained in support among black voters, among Latino voters, among every, among black women,
00:23:22.380
among whatever, all every single group you want to look at other than white men. The one group he
00:23:28.180
lost support in was white men. Everyone else, he went up. So totally knocks down his premise. Also the
00:23:32.900
idea that America worships whiteness is preposterous. The only thing we ever talk about in this country
00:23:39.480
is how racist and terrible America is. We only have one racially discriminatory system of laws in this
00:23:45.180
country. It's called affirmative action. It disadvantages white and Asian applicants. I don't
00:23:49.660
know why the Asians got lumped in, but it disadvantages white and Asian applicants to college and, and
00:23:54.580
employment. And it gives an advantage to black and Hispanic and other applicants. It's not the worship
00:23:59.920
of whiteness. All we ever talk about white supremacy, the worst, most terrible problem.
00:24:05.820
If you look, Pew Research did an analysis of racial consciousness in the country. Every racial group
00:24:12.740
has higher than 50% racial consciousness, except for white people. They're the only people that don't.
00:24:17.260
And, and their racial consciousness is down at about 15%. People who say that their, their race is
00:24:21.820
extraordinarily important to their sense of identity, either important or very important.
00:24:25.840
And of course, ask any white person, ask me, I guess I qualify, you know, I'm a little swarthy,
00:24:30.200
but I think I qualify as a white guy. I don't, when someone says, are you, what is, who are you?
00:24:34.440
What are you? Do I say I'm, I'm a white guy? No, that's not, it's not even like in the top 50.
00:24:41.500
I'm Catholic. I'm a New Yorker. I guess originally no longer a New Yorker. Now I'm a good old Southern
00:24:45.860
boy in Tennessee. I'm a American. I'm a conservative. I'm whatever. I can go down the list.
00:24:52.840
White guys are pretty low on the list, but that would be, that would not be true on average for
00:24:57.820
people of other races. The idea that we worship, well, it's crazy. But what it is, is a way in
00:25:02.920
to, to attack America's founding, to attack the idea of America, right? Because it's saying it's
00:25:07.640
rotten to the core. Those are alternate universes that we're living in. The one that says America is
00:25:13.980
a good place. It's the most racially tolerant place ever in the history of the world, basically.
00:25:18.400
And the one that says America's worships whiteness. Now, Warnock, this lunatic, this true
00:25:24.660
lunatic is wrong. We are right. We, the people who say now race is not the most important thing
00:25:31.140
in this country. It's actually a good country. It's good for people of all races and just calm
00:25:35.980
down and shut up. You know, we are correct. That framing is right. There can be more and
00:25:41.540
less correct framings of how we view the world. But that Warnock frame, the one that says America's
00:25:46.660
hopelessly bigoted, that one could win. That could win in Georgia. And by the way, if they win in
00:25:51.280
Georgia, if those two, two races go, all of a sudden Democrats, and, and if Joe Biden becomes
00:25:56.180
the president, all of a sudden Democrats have control of the Senate. That's not a great idea.
00:26:04.040
That's not a good thing at all. This guy also, the way that you know, he's also a complete lunatic
00:26:07.120
is he once drove over his wife's foot. He ran over his wife's foot while they were having an argument.
00:26:11.440
If you try to run over your wife during an argument, you are a lunatic. But this guy's
00:26:16.700
also mainstream. In 2013, he delivered the benediction at the public prayer service at the
00:26:20.720
second inauguration of Barack Obama. In March, 2019, Warnock hosted an interfaith meeting on
00:26:28.000
climate change at his church. I don't know. I feel like I want to put quotes around almost
00:26:31.700
every word in that sentence. Al Gore showed up to that. So this guy is, is fairly mainstream
00:26:36.900
and this could throw the Senate. And it's an election in Georgia where there are lots of
00:26:41.040
irregularities. Do you know, in Georgia, they just discovered 2,600 votes in a pro-Trump county.
00:26:53.300
They, I don't know. They just discovered it. Good thing they started looking for him again.
00:26:57.200
Good thing conservatives made them start looking for them again because those 2,600 votes from the
00:27:01.440
pro-Trump county, I guess they just disappeared. Meanwhile, big tech and the mainstream, I guess
00:27:07.900
you would say, establishment media are trying to call this election already. They're trying to
00:27:13.040
describe themselves as official sources. And Joe Biden admits who's really going to run the country
00:27:17.860
if he ascends to the presidency, which we will get to. But first, if conservatives care about a free
00:27:24.460
press, they must abandon the establishment media cartel and support alternatives.
00:27:30.440
You should replace your cable and your news subscriptions with the Daily Wire. You know,
00:27:36.560
in days past, we used to say, well, look, at least there's that one channel that's been on cable for
00:27:40.960
a while and they've been okay to us. I think this election threw that one out the window. I think
00:27:46.720
now conservatives look and they say, wow, all these establishment networks, even the ones we thought
00:27:51.660
we had, they're not doing it. They're not really with us. Come on over to the Daily Wire. We have big
00:27:57.720
plans for the next four years. We've got Candace. She's going to keep trending and keep getting in
00:28:01.680
trouble and we're going to keep having her do it because someone's got to speak the truth in this
00:28:05.980
crazy culture. We've got PragerU behind our paywall now. We've got PragerU on our streaming
00:28:10.800
service, which is great because actually Candace has a show on PragerU and so do I. I have the book
00:28:14.220
club on PragerU. That's going to be over at Daily Wire. We've got news shows coming up. We've got a lot
00:28:18.920
of fun new content. We're going to be making culture this year. Replace your subscription to those
00:28:24.160
legacy establishment outlets. Show your support for the Daily Wire. Keep the leftist tears on coming.
00:28:43.100
Floyd County, pro-Trump County, just discovers 2,600 ballots that had not been counted.
00:28:49.800
This will give President Trump at least an 800-vote chump into Joe Biden's current lead in
00:28:57.300
Georgia. Joe Biden's current lead in Georgia's 14,000 votes. Now, whether those votes are legitimate
00:29:02.900
or not, and I think there is a lot of evidence of irregularities all over the country, it is simply
00:29:08.560
a fact that it's going to be very difficult. Just historically, it's very difficult to overcome those
00:29:12.680
kind of margins because recounts don't usually flip them. Now, you also have to remember,
00:29:18.280
we're in an unprecedented territory because we've never had widespread unsolicited mail-in votes.
00:29:23.120
So it opens up the system to a lot more fraud. And theoretically, it should make it easier to flip
00:29:29.660
votes if they're illegitimate votes. But maybe it won't. Maybe the courts won't catch up. So all
00:29:34.120
these little 800 votes here, 1,000 votes here, it's going to be really important if there is any hope
00:29:39.900
to overcome the establishment and overcome the blob and get ourselves another Trump term.
00:29:49.520
Trump is currently leading Biden in Floyd County by a 43% margin of difference. Was it just an accident
00:29:55.660
that those votes disappeared? Maybe. Yeah, maybe it was. I wouldn't put money on it, but maybe it was.
00:30:03.340
This is the problem. We're hearing about a lot of these irregularities and time is running out. And
00:30:09.220
the official sources, we are told, have already called the election for Biden. This one really
00:30:16.300
scandalized me. And I have a low opinion, of course, of big tech and the media. But this
00:30:21.260
scandalized me. Trump tweets out, I won the election. Very, very simple. And Twitter, now they put
00:30:29.980
little warnings on all of his tweets and they say, quote, official sources called this election
00:30:36.280
differently. That is not true. Official sources have not called this election. In fact, the only
00:30:44.900
official source, the most official source that has called this election is President Trump, who is the
00:30:51.320
president of the United States, who said, I won the election. May turn out that he does not get a second
00:30:57.680
term for whatever reason. But if you want to talk about an official source, Trump would be the most
00:31:03.160
official source. The official sources who call elections are the states who certify the results.
00:31:07.880
Then the official sources are the electors who vote for the president on December 14th.
00:31:12.560
Those are the official sources. Twitter is not an official source. The AP, CNN, Fox News even,
00:31:21.560
not official sources. You won't find them in the laws of the United States, certainly not in the
00:31:27.960
Constitution. They're not there. But this is a power grab. This has always been a power grab.
00:31:34.520
This is an alternate universe where the official sources, the real official sources, the president,
00:31:41.640
for instance, the states, the electors, well, they're all illegitimate. How long has the left been
00:31:46.240
prattling on about getting rid of the electors altogether, the electoral college?
00:31:48.880
In this alternate universe, in this alternate leftist universe, the official sources are
00:31:54.820
CNN. The official sources are Jack Dorsey and Twitter. The official sources are, of course,
00:32:00.600
I can't forget, last but not least, Dr. Fauci, our true ruler. He's been with us through, I think,
00:32:06.640
six presidential administrations. Presidents come and go. Dr. Fauci stays. And Dr. Fauci is now flexing
00:32:14.080
his power, showing his political arrogance, his hubris. Who really rules us in this country?
00:32:21.320
The administrative state. Dr. Fauci, one among many, but a prominent one. He came out and just
00:32:27.320
said that President Trump, okay, enough fun and games, guys. Enough counting the ballots. Enough
00:32:31.980
following the legal process in the Constitution. Trump has to secede. Not secede, concede. Maybe he
00:32:39.060
should secede, too. That'll be a topic for another day. Trump has to concede for public health.
00:32:45.640
The virus is not going to stop and call a timeout while things change. The virus is just going to
00:32:51.060
keep going. The process is just going to keep going. This is something that just is now going in the
00:32:56.560
very, very strong right direction. The vaccines are effective. We want to get it approved as quickly
00:33:02.180
as we possibly can. We want to get doses to people starting in December. And then we want to really get
00:33:07.460
the ball rolling as we get into January, February, and March. We want a smooth process for that. And
00:33:13.440
the way you do that is by essentially having the two groups speak to each other and exchange
00:33:18.300
information. That's not true. That's just not true. That's just a lie. Donald Trump does not need to
00:33:26.520
talk to Joe Biden to get doses of the vaccine out in December. Because contrary to what the media are
00:33:33.280
telling you or Dr. Fauci wants, President Trump is the president in December and in January for that
00:33:38.840
matter. And he doesn't need Joe Biden to help him. I know the media have been trying to frame this as
00:33:44.720
Joe Biden's wonderful vaccine. This was all Trump. They mocked Trump. They said there's no way he's
00:33:48.940
going to get a vaccine by the fall. Then he did because he handled this very well. And then we get
00:33:54.760
the vaccine. And now we're told, but we can't get it out in December unless he concedes immediately
00:34:00.320
and ignores the legal process in the constitution. The way Fauci talks, he says, look, I get it. I get
00:34:05.740
it. We have this pesky constitution thing. But look, the virus doesn't care. Science doesn't care
00:34:13.240
about your ridiculous little politics, your laws, your rules. Science doesn't care. So we need to
00:34:21.200
ignore your politics and your rules and your constitution because we need a scientific
00:34:24.920
government. This is exactly what Woodrow Wilson wrote about. This is exactly what all the early
00:34:28.600
progressives wrote about. And you hear it from progressives today up to and including
00:34:32.860
presidential candidate Joe Biden. That's what you hear. Well, look, science tells us we got to
00:34:38.420
ignore global warming is going to kill us all five years ago or whatever it was supposed to kill us.
00:34:43.240
And so that's why we have to give our sovereignty away to international bodies and have them write our
00:34:48.260
laws for us because, you know, because global warming is going to kill us in the seventies. No,
00:34:53.120
I'm sorry, that was global cooling in the seventies. Well, something's going to kill us.
00:34:55.380
Give away your rights. Give away your political tradition. I don't think so. I don't think we need
00:35:01.200
to tell Joe Biden a damn thing to get that vaccine out in December. And I hope that the
00:35:04.520
president doesn't. I don't like Dr. Fauci. I'm finally willing to say that. Okay. We've all been
00:35:09.080
making jokes about Dr. Fauci for a long time. I don't like him. I think he's incompetent at just
00:35:13.420
about everything other than going on television with a straight face and contradicting what he just
00:35:18.580
said the day before. What has he gotten right about this? The most famous thing he did in this
00:35:22.840
entire pandemic was to go on TV early on and say, don't get a mask. Now we're told you have to wear
00:35:28.520
a mask all the time. Even when talking about the vaccine, he said, yeah, it'll be 70% effective.
00:35:32.600
Now we're told it's gonna be 90, 95% effective. Fauci said that was basically impossible.
00:35:37.160
Why are we listening to him? The guy's been wrong about everything. He's just sort of likable on TV
00:35:42.900
to certain people who don't know any better. He's a slick politician. Well, fine. If he wants to be a
00:35:48.800
politician, run for office, buddy, run for office, run for Congress, run for the Senate, run for
00:35:54.020
president. He thinks he's the president. He thinks he can tell the duly elected president what to do
00:35:58.660
because when it comes to Democrat presidents, progressive presidents, often the experts and
00:36:05.620
the bureaucrats can tell them what to do, but he can't always tell Trump what to do. Fauci
00:36:11.600
is a very anti-American view of the relationship between experts and the bureaucracy and the
00:36:19.200
administrative state and politics. And this guy never wants to give up power because he knows if
00:36:25.280
Biden wins, if Biden ascends to the presidency, he's got that perfect kind of progressive president
00:36:30.620
who's going to let the experts run the country. Joe Biden just told us this the other day.
00:36:34.880
Here's what I do. Let me tell you what the health experts have said to me.
00:36:41.760
And it's not because I'm unique and president-elect. It's because of my family.
00:36:46.360
They strongly urge that if, in fact, we're going to have Thanksgiving with anyone,
00:36:53.320
that we limit it to a maximum, maximum. They suggest five people, maximum 10 people socially
00:37:01.400
distance-wearing masks and people who have quarantined. So Jill and I spent this morning,
00:37:09.080
like many of you, trying to figure out what are we going to do for Thanksgiving?
00:37:12.820
How are we going to do it? And we've narrowed down which family members and that they were tested,
00:37:18.380
recently tested in 24 hours. And so I would strongly urge for the sake, not just your sake,
00:37:25.740
for the sake of your children, your mother, your father, your sisters, your brothers,
00:37:30.080
whoever you get together on Thanksgiving. Think about this. There should be no group,
00:37:34.880
more than 10 people in one room at one time. I mean, inside the homes. That's what they're telling
00:37:40.560
me. They're telling me that, you know, making sure that that's the case. That's what they're
00:37:46.300
telling me. That's what they're telling me to do. And now I'm telling you to do that because I'm the
00:37:52.920
duly elected president. That's what Joe Biden thinks. I don't think he's that yet. We'll find
00:37:56.560
out when they certify the votes. But what he's saying is I'm the duly elected president
00:38:00.320
and I am nothing but a conduit for the experts and the bureaucrats who have been wrong about
00:38:07.720
everything to rule this country. That's what he's saying. That's, that's how they do it. I mean,
00:38:14.240
that is, that is much more of the permanent government than these elected guys. Even someone
00:38:20.320
like Trump, who's a real innovator, who's a guy who really shakes things up, they come and go.
00:38:25.900
Trump is getting at most two terms, even if it all works out in our favor. He's at most getting
00:38:30.660
two terms. I'm waiting for him to pull a Charles II, you know, disband parliament and just rule for
00:38:35.680
like years and years and years, but it's probably not going to happen. So he'll come and go and
00:38:40.420
Fauci will remain and the permanent state will remain and they will tell us what to do. How unmanly
00:38:46.020
for a president to come up there and say, well, the experts told me I can't have Thanksgiving. So
00:38:52.000
ah, shucks. Okay, we're not having Thanksgiving. You know, the experts who were wrong about everything.
00:38:57.440
Yeah, they, that's what they said. So anyway, maybe, maybe we'll get a Thanksgiving next year.
00:39:03.440
Oh my gosh, give it a rest. How un-American, how pathetic, how totally pathetic. What a, gosh,
00:39:10.680
if this guy actually wins, this is going to be a very, very humiliating few years. Who knows how
00:39:18.820
long? Could be, could be, could be four years, I guess. Who knows? That is the government that
00:39:24.460
we've got, the scientific experts. You know, the scientific experts who say that men are women,
00:39:29.480
scientific experts who say the babies aren't human, scientific experts who say that cloth masks
00:39:36.300
don't do anything, but then they say the cloth masks are super duper important. You got to wear
00:39:39.300
them all the time. You know them. Well, they've got a, they were attacking this book. You saw this
00:39:45.040
book that my friend Abigail Schreier put out, Irreversible Damage, the transgender craze seducing
00:39:49.440
our daughters. Abigail Schreier believes that adults, if they want to mutilate their bodies and,
00:39:54.920
you know, men look more like women or women look more like men, it's totally fine. She is
00:39:58.260
basically as liberal as you get on that question of transgenderism. But what she said, very modest
00:40:04.080
suggestion, she said, maybe we shouldn't castrate children. You know, children are not at the age of
00:40:08.860
consent. They don't, they don't know very much. That's why they're children, right? They need to
00:40:13.460
be educated. They need to grow up. They need to mature. And so maybe we don't irreversibly mutilate
00:40:18.100
their bodies before, you know, they're 12. Just a thought. And then this was, there were all these
00:40:25.340
radicals who protested, got this taken off the bookshelves at Target. Thankfully, Target put it
00:40:29.340
back on. They, we were talking about this when I was filling in for Russia on Friday. We kind of made
00:40:33.220
a big deal about this. It was just bubbling up then. But I think by the end of the show,
00:40:37.200
by the end of the day, that day, there was such a conservative backlash that Target decided to put
00:40:42.760
it back on. That's good. But in the academy, they, they don't want to put that book back on the
00:40:46.780
shelves. In higher education, they want to burn the book. UC Berkeley English professor,
00:40:51.220
Grace Lavery supports burning, literally burning Abigail Schreier's book. Grace Lavery.
00:40:58.180
Now, great. That's a kind of interesting. I just, it sounds like Grace Lavery.
00:41:03.620
And the name is a made up name because Grace Lavery is not a woman. Grace Lavery is a man
00:41:08.760
who identifies as a woman, which actually people reporting on this story apparently don't know
00:41:13.040
that, but just kind of Googled the guy and yeah, it turns out he's a trans woman. So this,
00:41:17.680
this UC Berkeley professor, Grace Lavery says, since some people have misunderstood my tone
00:41:22.780
and censorship is an important matter. And as a public educator, I have a duty to be precise.
00:41:27.360
Let me clarify. I do not advocate defacing library books. I do encourage followers to steal Abigail
00:41:32.540
Schreier's book and burn it on a pyre. Please make sure you use a safe pyre and that you have an
00:41:37.960
extinguisher to hand. Be safe when you are burning books. Remember, all you're doing is removing a
00:41:42.860
commodity from circulation, much as one might destroy a contaminated crop or take action if
00:41:47.400
a distributor failed to do so. Now, it's easy to attack this lunatic, this person living in an
00:41:55.440
alternate universe where English professors are supposed to burn books. But I actually think
00:41:59.820
he's making a point that is worth conservatives considering because conservatives now take up the
00:42:05.560
mantle of free speech absolutism. We just support all speech at all times and it doesn't matter how
00:42:10.920
coarse or how crass or how subversive or how seditious or how treasonous even. We support
00:42:15.940
all speech. You can never get in trouble for speech. And that's always what conservatives
00:42:19.080
have supported and the left is pro-censorship. Okay, I think we're overstating our case a little
00:42:24.980
bit. I think that we're ignoring the Hays Code. The Hays Code which, you know, forced a kind of
00:42:31.200
standard on popular culture, which conservatives supported and radicals opposed. And conservatives
00:42:37.560
rightly supported it and the best movies in American history were made under the Hays Code.
00:42:41.280
Uncoincidentally. I think we're forgetting the House Un-American Affairs Committee which rooted
00:42:45.020
out communists from the government and which did engage in a sort of censorship and engaged in a
00:42:50.040
sort of speech code and a kind of standard. I think we're forgetting that. And I think when we
00:42:55.840
pretend that conservatives have no standards at all, we're falling into a trap of political
00:43:00.660
correctness. Political correctness, when it developed, there are a lot of terms for it. It came up in the
00:43:05.120
really beginning in the 20s and 30s and it's come up all the way through the present. Political
00:43:08.720
correctness is really devious and it's really effective because it's two things at once.
00:43:15.440
It's a speech code, right? It's a list of words we have to say and that we can't say and behaviors
00:43:20.740
that we have to engage in, we can't behave in. And it's also an anti-speech code. Namely,
00:43:29.420
it destroys the old standards. Political correctness is a negative vessel. It is an attack
00:43:36.460
on the old standards. And so to use a simple example, now, you know, in the olden days,
00:43:44.560
we used to have sort of moral opprobrium for certain sexual behaviors because of, you know,
00:43:49.460
because of traditional sexual morality, Christianity, Judaism, Islam even. And today,
00:43:54.720
we're told the opposite is true. So if you, you know, you see the kind of internet meme of
00:44:00.160
die cis scum or the idea that heterosexuality is not just on an equal playing field with
00:44:07.060
homosexuality, but it's actually worse because it's oppressive or cisgenderism. Namely, if you're
00:44:11.680
a man and you know that you're a man, you're a cisgender, is not just on an equal ground with
00:44:16.760
transgenderism, a man who thinks he's a woman, but it's actually worse because it's oppressive.
00:44:20.760
Men are worse than women because men are oppressive in the patriarchy. White people are,
00:44:24.560
you know, we worship whiteness in America. It's a white supremacist country. It's actually worse
00:44:27.580
than the other races. It's a total flipping, right? This is not to say that traditional behaviors
00:44:35.760
couldn't use a little work. Of course, all behaviors at all times could use work because
00:44:39.760
it's a fallen world. But to utterly flip the traditional Christian moral standard, for instance,
00:44:47.140
or even ancient moral standards in favor of radical leftism premised on extreme materialism,
00:44:54.080
extreme individualism, extreme all these various things is, is an anti-speech. And so if you,
00:45:00.960
the trick of political correctness is if you go along with political correctness,
00:45:05.140
then the radicals get their way. But if you oppose political correctness on the grounds that you oppose
00:45:10.100
all standards and codes and things like that, the radicals also get their way because what they were
00:45:15.860
trying to do is attack the old standards. So as long as you say, look, I'm against political
00:45:19.220
correctness and I'm against all speech codes. Then you're saying, okay, they get to have explicit
00:45:23.940
content all over TV. They get to degrade the culture in movies. They get to have weird stuff
00:45:29.420
going on all the time. They get to push their radical policies and you really can't say very
00:45:34.280
much about it because you've said there are no standards at all. In reality, there is always a
00:45:40.180
sort of censorship in all cultures and societies. There are certain things that are just out of bounds
00:45:45.300
that you're just, you can't say and you will be ostracized for it and you may even have some
00:45:49.700
punishments for it. We've had that in America all the time. We've had laws against obscenity from
00:45:52.840
the very beginning. And no one ever said the First Amendment protected obscenity. At least only fringe
00:46:00.240
people have said that. We've always said that. We've had laws against sedition. We have laws against
00:46:04.620
threats. We have laws against fighting words. And that doesn't violate the First Amendment. There are
00:46:09.720
things that are out of bounds. There are things that are out of bounds for conservatives. There are things
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that are out of bounds for leftists. And what this Berkeley professor is saying is, yeah, we need to
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move those bounds. Sometimes it's called the Overton window. That's another term for it. We need to move
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these bounds more in favor of the left so that perfectly mainstream things like don't trans the
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kids are now so unacceptable that you will be ostracized. You'll be called a bigot. You could lose your
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job. Maybe you could be punished by the government for it. And I think what conservatives need to say is
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not, we need to lose all standards and it's fine. If you want to trans the kids, that's,
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you know, that's fine. If you want to, you do you or whatever. Instead of that, we need to say, okay,
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we want to have a good standard. We want to have a good standard that everybody likes, that, that
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allows people to flourish. That is not a, that's not oppressive. That's not bigoted. That's not any of
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that, but that preserves culture and allows human beings to flourish. That, that's what we have to do.
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That's the, the adult version of this guy's conversation of, of what he's trying to push.
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And I think in a way, this, this professor is, is pointing out a mistake conservatives have made.
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And, and if we want to quit living in alternate universes, we need to drop this idea that it's
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just a, the society is a neutral playing ground and anyone can do whatever they want. That's not true.
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When you believe that anyone can just do whatever they want all the time, and there's no consequence
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to that, which has never been true in any society, then you get this polarization. Then you get this
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balkanization. Then you get these alternate universes. What we really need to do is actually
00:47:38.760
engage with the other people and say, no, this is better than that. No, I think you should consider
00:47:43.300
this instead of that. No, actually you should wave the flag instead of burn the flag. No, I think we
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should actually be ruled under the constitution, not under whatever rule Dr. Fauci put out. I think
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actually the duly elected president is more official than some bureaucrat in some random department
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somewhere. We need to have a standard and defend that standard. That requires courage. That requires,
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you might say manly courage. And unfortunately, as Candace shows us, that is in short supply.
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