Ep. 667 - The Real Conspiracy
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In this episode of The Michael Knowles Show, Michael talks about conspiracy theories about the coronavirus vaccine and why there's no reason to be worried about it. Plus, why Alex Jones got it wrong about the frogs.
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But specifically, right now, anyone who publishes conspiracy theories about the coronavirus or the coronavirus vaccine.
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Obviously, of course, this is a wonderful thing.
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Because there is no reason in the world to be skeptical of the vaccine, which just happened to have been made in record time by lots of experts who squandered all their credibility back in March.
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By the way, the vaccine is already being given to health care workers.
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Like, for instance, this lovely nurse in Tennessee who took the vaccine and then was interviewed on television.
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Take a listen to why there's nothing to worry about.
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So therefore, you know, my team will be getting first chances to get the vaccine.
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And I know that it's really—I'm sorry, I'm feeling really dizzy.
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Nothing—nothing that she's completely out cold.
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Obviously, this—how dare you suggest that this has anything to do with the vaccine?
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My favorite comment from yesterday is from Cultural Cacastocracy, who says,
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2020 turned Alex Jones from conspiracy theorist to profit.
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And one thing, regardless, you know, putting aside other things Alex Jones has said in his life,
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I always gave him credit because he's right about the frogs.
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You know, there was that clip where he said, they're turning the frickin' frogs gay.
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And it turns out, of all the things Alex Jones ever said, that one might be the most correct.
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There was a study—it was undertaken by the EPA in Yale, in Connecticut, that these chemicals in the water were actually—
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If anything, Alex Jones was too modest in his reporting on what they were doing to the frogs.
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Some of the other things, I think, a little less credible.
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But certainly on the frogs, he—he totally got it.
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It's not because I think that this vaccine is necessarily bad in and of itself.
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I'm just taking a little bit of a risk calculation here.
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My risk statistically from this virus is extraordinarily low.
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I don't have hard evidence other than that poor lady passing out in Tennessee.
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I don't have any, you know, particular evidence that the vaccine is evil or it's going to kill
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And I think a lot of people are going to be making that, that calculation.
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This is a virtue we've been talking about a lot on this show the past week or two.
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Conservatives, you know, we understand that there's risk in everything in the world and
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And common sense is lacking in a lot of rationalist political ideologies, but we should keep exercising
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him as for that nurse, by the way, after she talk about the worst PR moment ever that you
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could have for this vaccine, people are already pretty skeptical of it because the experts got
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And because vaccines take years, if not decades to develop, and we got this vaccine in like
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So she goes out, she goes, oh yeah, it's great.
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Her excuse is that she passes out whenever she feels pain.
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Now, I don't know that I necessarily believe this.
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First of all, because it's not like she was getting the vaccine in that moment.
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It's not like the needle was going into her in that moment.
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She clearly already had it earlier and then all of a sudden decided to faint or, you know,
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Also, if, if there's a nurse knew that she had this condition where when she gets a shot,
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she faints, why would they pick her to hold the press conference about how great the vaccine
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And if the healthcare apparatus is that incompetent, I'm a little skeptical of them,
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Now, speaking of remaining healthy and skeptical, keeping a healthy skepticism of all of these
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sorts of expert claims, there's a new study published in the Physics of Fluids Scientific
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Man, they have a magazine for everything, don't they?
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The Physics of Fluids Journal shows that wearing a used mask is potentially riskier than
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If only, if only a certain scientific expert had mentioned this at the very beginning of
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this epidemic, as I have done on this show as much as I possibly can.
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Look, I'm citing this study because this study backs up the point that I'm making.
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I don't really care about any of the studies because my argument against the masks is not
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My argument against the masks is political because the masks are a political symbol.
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They are not primarily a scientific or medical instrument.
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At the beginning of the epidemic, Dr. Fauci, who's been in his job for 50 years, said the
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He said they'll make people feel a little bit better, but they don't do anything medically.
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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And I thought, no, this, this is a highly politicized instrument now.
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Whatever the medical effect of it, maybe it has some medical effect, maybe it doesn't.
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Obviously, the change in, in his tune is a political change in tune.
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But beyond that, that was just assuming you're always wearing a clean mask.
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And part of Fauci's original point before he contradicted himself was, even when you're
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putting a clean mask on, you're touching your face, you're near your mouth, you know, it's,
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Now, add on top of that, the reality of how people wear these masks, which is they don't
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They don't replace them every time they wear them.
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You take, you have the mask and you put it in your pocket and you usually don't wear it.
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And then you got to go pick up takeout or something.
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And so you put the, take it out of your pocket or your purse or you put it on your face.
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You probably haven't watched the thing in a week, more than a week, probably.
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If you're a guy, you probably haven't watched the thing ever since March or so, right?
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Obviously that mask is going to be carrying more germs than if you were just breathing
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This study, if you want to look it up, comes from University of Massachusetts, Lowell and
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California Baptist University shows that the three layer surgical mask is 65% efficient
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However, once it's used, that effectiveness falls to 25% and then once used for a very
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long time and grows all sorts of bacteria, that is not a very good situation.
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We still hear many conservatives deferring to this liberal idea that we should follow the
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And follow the science is another slogan that means the same thing as let's put politics
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Usually you'll hear the same people who say, follow the science and say, look, this isn't
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And as my friend Nan Hayworth points out, whenever someone tells you, let's put the politics
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aside, get ready to have your politics on deck because there is no more political statement
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Because what, what people are saying, what they mean when they say that is my political
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opinion is so necessary to society that it should be beyond the realm of debate.
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What they're really saying is put your politics aside and listen to me.
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And then because it's science, it's irrefutable.
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And you have to do exactly what I tell you to do.
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Science is not an exception to politics in public life.
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The whole, the whole point of this, that there's some aspect of public life that's totally outside
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Even science, even the most hard-nosed scientist will bend the knee to the social and political
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You see this clearly in the past few days in the New England Journal of Medicine.
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New England Journal of Medicine just posts this yesterday to the internet.
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Quote, sex designations on birth certificates offer no clinical utility and they can be harmful
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That's like hermaphrodites, people where their genitals are sort of ambiguous.
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And transgender, transgender, you know, is when a man thinks he's a woman or vice versa.
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People, moving such designations below the line of demarcation would not compromise the
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birth certificate's public health function, but could avoid harm.
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And they posted this, this line from some of the MDs on, on, from the New England Journal
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We believe that it is now time to update the practice of designating sex on birth certificates.
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Meaning that a very, very prominent medical scientific journal is throwing biology aside and acquiescing
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Gender theory, a very, very novel political ideology that has only come into the mainstream really
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If that, it sort of started bubbling up in 60s really, but only in the last 20 years has it
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This is actually why I sort of, I don't usually use the, the typical conservative arguments against
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The typical conservative arguments is look at the chromosomes.
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You know, men have a Y chromosome and women have two X chromosomes.
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I sort of think when we invoke science, you know, as this thing outside of politics, we're
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actually kind of giving the left an important premise here because the, the left, because
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the left owns the established institutions, they will use science to pervert itself and to
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Science now is totally embracing gender ideology.
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But I think what we need to do is call out the philosophical basis of these things.
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For instance, the gender ideology rests on an ancient religious heresy.
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The idea that your true self has nothing to do with your physical body.
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This is a heresy from the early, you know, third century, fourth century and fifth century.
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Then it came back again in the 11th century and sort of the middle ages with the Alpagentian
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It's hard, you know, there, there, there is a basis on which all of these sorts of things
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And that either you're going to have the traditional standards or you're going to have the politically
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correct standards, but you will have standards.
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And it's not just in science, it's corporate America too.
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Conservatives have made a big mistake over the past 30 or so years, which is that we've,
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We've done what the left has suggested we do where everything becomes political except
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for politics, which gets exported to a group of experts who run our lives for us.
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And we've said, okay, the government can, the only threat that we ever have is from the
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The scientific establishment can do whatever they want.
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If my rights are being restricted, if my traditions are being destroyed, if my country is being hollowed
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If you don't get on the environmentalist agenda, which from the beginning in the United States
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was a sort of incoherent scientific patina that was put over goals that the political left has had
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If you don't get on board with that, you're going to have your CEO voted out.
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You're going to have your company hit by extraordinarily influential financial firms.
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Just a little reminder of the environmentalist movement.
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And we were told in the late 1960s and early 70s that overpopulation was a serious problem
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and that there would, it was inevitable that we would have mass starvation, famines, deaths
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It was Paul Ehrlich, a Stanford scientist who told us this, a very famous book, The Population
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That guy was, could not have been more wrong, but because he was backing up the left-wing
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political agenda, he's never faced any consequences.
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He continued to receive extraordinarily prestigious prizes, even though the central thesis of this
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dude's whole career, a horrific thesis that caused untold misery.
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It led to, in many ways, the one child policy in China.
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It led to sterilization, horrific abuses by the left-wing government in India, abortion,
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This guy never faced any consequences because he went with the left-wing agenda.
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You had not just newspapers, but significant scientific institutions describing global cooling
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Then it turns out global cooling didn't happen.
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Then the warming stopped for, okay, well, now we need, it's climate change.
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day and it's raining the next, you got to stop having kids and you need to give the
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government more control over your stuff and you need to pay more taxes and you need to
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to coincide exactly with what the left has wanted since the early 20th century, at least,
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A coherent conservative movement needs to stop that.
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A coherent conservative movement needs to stop giving technocrats and lab coats the authority
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A coherent conservative movement needs to assert its political freedom.
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He continues to do a good job at exposing this.
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It's a bigger lie than the Russia hoax or the Ukraine hoax or what, any of those things.
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The biggest lie of the Trump era is that the left has some special hatred for Donald Trump.
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Remember, Donald Trump was in their clubs and in their parties for decades.
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He was Hollywood royalty, a top network TV star.
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Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton came to his wedding.
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Then he comes out and he runs as a Republican and they say he's literally Hitler.
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It was when he tweeted out that picture and he said,
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they're not coming for me, they're coming for you and I happen to be in the way.
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They don't think he's going to destroy the country and he should be in prison.
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They think you're going to destroy the country and probably you should be in prison too.
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They have talked, they've talked about these enemy lists.
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They've talked about the truth and reconciliation commissions, re-education.
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That was Obama's term or Obama's concept rather.
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You had an expert, one of these geniuses on MSNBC comes out and mentioned that the next guy
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He might sound a little better, but the GOP wants another literally Hitler in 2024.
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We're going to hear them loudly express that hypocrisy and act on that hypocrisy going forward
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because all they're looking for now is a slightly more civilized Donald Trump.
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That's why they think things are still going fine for the party because they look at the
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They look at the Senate results and say, we're doing fine.
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If we could just get a Donald Trump who's not quite so, not quite such a thug, not quite
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so unpalatable to so many people, we can find another white grievance, racist, sexist, all of those things.
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We find another candidate like that, but one who doesn't have quite the rough edges will be in shape.
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That's what the Republican Party is heading for and what their goal is as they head towards 2024.
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That's what they're going for, guaranteed, no question.
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And you have, this is, I don't even know this guy's name, nor do I particularly care to.
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He's on MSNBC with the MSNBC host and with Tim Miller, who's an ex-Republican.
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He was Jeb Bush's spokesman, one of the most vile slanderers in politics, right?
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I mean, absolutely, you know, everybody who disagrees with him, anybody who disagrees with
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the liberal left as a Nazi and a white supremacist. You hear this from ex-Republicans. It's not just
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the radical left. It's guys who worked for Jeb Bush, for goodness sakes. This, this sort of thing
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is going to amp up. And I think we're all going to, we're all going to feel a little, if we don't
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already feel some sympathy or, or empathy for President Trump, we certainly will in 2024 when
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we find out this wasn't about him at all. And we need to oppose this. We need to fight back against
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this, not just in this very narrow way of shrinking parts of the government or lowering taxes or
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something like that. It's a whole blob. It's a whole sort of conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy
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in the sense that it's not even really conscious. It's not like three men in a smoke filled room
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saying, here's how we're going to plot to destroy the deplorable, irredeemable patriotic
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Americans. It's just this whole edifice, which comprises the universities, certainly the media,
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obviously Hollywood, sure. Even the scientific establishment, which is now saying that men can
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become women based on nothing other than some faddish ideology, that sort of thing.
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We have to push back against the whole edifice. And if we don't do that, it's going to gobble us
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right up. Even there's a Biden's campaign manager, who's probably going to be his deputy chief of
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staff. Even she, her job is to go out there and sell Joe Biden's fake unity healing message that
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he's now pretending to be pushing. Joe Biden, a very divisive figure who said that Mitt Romney wanted
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to re-enslave black people in America. Joe Biden, who just lies. I mean, it's told really awful lies
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in his life. Now he's saying we need unity and healing. And his campaign manager, it's a Jen,
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Jen O'Malley Dillon says, yeah, I want to work with Republicans. I'm not saying they're not a bunch
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of effers. You know, Mitch McConnell's terrible. But from start to finish, Biden set out with this
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idea that unity was possible, that together we're stronger, that we as a country need healing and
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our politics needs that too. Yeah, yeah, effers. Yeah, you're going to heal. Oh, we're going to make
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you heal. You're going to heal whether you like it or not. Not exactly practicing what she preaches.
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They never do that though. You'd always see this on social media or people get letters about this or
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even people on TV. They say Trump is literally Hitler. He's a Nazi. He's awful. We need to have
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70 million Nazis in this country. We need to beat them just like we beat Hitler. Antifa's good. I hope
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Antifa punches all these guys in the face because love trumps hate. Huh? Hold on. It's love, yeah,
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love trumps hate. And the, in order to, for love to Trump hate, we need to kill all the hateful people.
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I think you've got a flaw somewhere in your logic. They're not wishing us well. That's for sure.
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slash Michael. AOC then comes in after, after Joe Biden's campaign manager and likely deputy
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chief of staff calls Republicans a bunch of effers. AOC comes in to double down on that,
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but also in classic AOC fashion to make it all about her. So Marco Rubio came out. He said,
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Biden talks about unity and healing, but you want to know what they really think. Read how the person
00:28:25.300
he wants as the next White House deputy chief of staff called Republicans in Congress, a bunch of
00:28:29.100
effers. AOC responds, Marco Rubio, you stood by in total silence when your GOP colleague called a
00:28:37.280
congresswoman, an effing B on the Capitol steps in front of press. Apparently some congressman
00:28:43.660
insulted AOC. He denied it and she's a liar. So I don't believe her. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't,
00:28:48.680
but I certainly don't take her at a word. You weren't big enough to speak then and you don't
00:28:52.900
get to sob now. By the way, that is the right word for those who fleece and scam working families.
00:28:57.320
You got to give the gal credit. She makes every single thing about her. Obama was very good at
00:29:07.200
this. I hope that doesn't mean AOC is going to become president. Obama, he graduates from law
00:29:12.500
school. He's done nothing in his entire life. He's accomplished nothing in the professional world,
00:29:19.020
in the political world. He's just, all he's really done is gone through school and he writes a book
00:29:23.620
about his absolute favorite subject, himself. Then he writes another book. Do you know what
00:29:31.040
that book is about? Give you a hint. It's his favorite subject, himself. Then he's president,
00:29:37.740
you know, he leaves the presidency and he writes, he's now written two books about himself. He then
00:29:42.360
gets a book deal and he writes a 750 page book about, do you know, can you guess, himself.
00:29:51.780
All the things he, all the details he left out of the first 600 pages about himself, he was able to
00:29:58.520
fit in to the next 750 pages. That's what AOC does. AOC, who is really bad for the country.
00:30:06.580
She has a stain on American public life. She has like a, a festering wound on American public life,
00:30:13.660
ripping up real issues that America's had. Also ripping up completely imaginary issues that America's
00:30:21.520
had. Everything is sort of contemptuous of the country, but she's, she's not the only person
00:30:27.200
who does this. The reason she does it is because it gives her a lot of attention. And there are some
00:30:32.300
Republicans who've done that too, but you know, narcissism is a occupational hazard of politics.
00:30:39.120
AOC does it in particular. And the way she does it is focus on all these grievances. Everything is
00:30:43.280
about how she's been wronged. This is a, what, 30 year old bartender with absolutely no qualification
00:30:48.260
to be in Congress other than her age. And she gets this great cushy job and, and a significant
00:30:54.980
amount of influence. And she's still complaining. Imagine that. Imagine still complaining about that.
00:31:00.400
But it's always about grievance. And so for instance, if, if Biden does become president,
00:31:05.000
uh, he's now going to appoint a Native American cabinet secretary, representative Debbie Holland
00:31:12.540
to lead the department of the interior. Okay. That's fine. I don't know anything about Deb
00:31:17.680
Holland. Maybe she's fine. Probably she's not, if she's going to be a Biden pick, but that's fine.
00:31:23.600
They're not talking about her qualifications to lead this department. They're not talking about
00:31:27.660
her experience to lead this department. They're talking about how she's Native American and how this
00:31:34.240
is historic because, you know, we've never had Native Americans in the government or anything,
00:31:37.920
except that we've actually already had not just a Native American cabinet secretary.
00:31:44.160
We've had a Native American vice president and we had him as vice president 91 years ago.
00:31:52.120
The 31st vice president of the United States, 1929 to 1933. First person of color to use the popular
00:32:00.420
phrase and first Native American to be vice president, Charles Curtis under Herbert Hoover was a Republican.
00:32:04.940
By the way, it's not like he was 132nd Native American or something. The guy had membership
00:32:11.960
in a Native American nation. The guy looked extremely Native American. He did it. If you're
00:32:17.140
interested in that sort of historic breakthrough, he did it. He was the guy who did it completely
00:32:21.520
written out of history because the left controls the history books. And so you're not going to hear
00:32:27.760
about that guy. Maybe occasionally on some conservative talk show or in a conservative book,
00:32:32.340
you'll hear a mention of it. You won't hear it anywhere else. They did this with Pete Buttigieg.
00:32:36.320
They just did. Pete Buttigieg is going to be the head of the Department of Transportation.
00:32:41.440
Why? I don't, does Pete Buttigieg know anything about transportation? No, probably not.
00:32:45.440
Doesn't matter. It's historic. Pete Buttigieg, according to the media, he's the first
00:32:49.920
openly gay cabinet secretary, except he's not. We just had the first openly gay cabinet secretary.
00:32:55.920
His name was Rick Grinnell under Donald Trump. That happened like five minutes ago. It's been
00:33:01.300
completely written out already. That, that is a conspiracy, not necessarily a conscious one.
00:33:10.040
It's sort of reflexive, I think, for the left. That they have their narrative and they're sticking
00:33:16.380
to it, whether reality backs it up or not. The media certainly aren't going to correct them.
00:33:21.980
You want to see the kind of hard hitting journalism we have? So, you know, the Washington Post has been
00:33:26.460
trying to overthrow the 2016 election since before it occurred. Well, now that they think Biden's got
00:33:32.100
it, certainly he's in, it's done deal. Here's the kind of hard hitting journalism you can expect
00:33:36.320
from the Washington Post. Pete Buttigieg is right. Airports are romantic.
00:33:44.660
That's the headline. That's, I'm not, I'm not going to read this article. I see no reason to read
00:33:50.900
this article. It is, I did once get pretty romantic with my TSA agent going up the right
00:33:55.220
leg. I don't, it was, at least I felt it was romantic. I don't know if, if he felt that way
00:33:58.980
as well. Uh, historic, it was an historic, uh, airport security line. Uh, you're not going to get
00:34:06.020
any kind of, uh, serious journalism here. Okay. And you're not going to get it on big tech either.
00:34:13.100
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, you know, Kareem, he was the basketball star and then he was an airplane,
00:34:17.720
which is my, that's really where I enjoyed his, his work. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is now saying that
00:34:24.360
big tech should censor conservatives and even people who aren't woke, just kind of run of the
00:34:29.620
mill liberals. He says they need to do it because the conservatives are tweeting irrational and
00:34:36.120
harmful opinions to millions. And what's funny, his reasoning here is many Americans imbue stars with
00:34:41.760
political and social intelligence they just don't have. It doesn't help to be surrounded by
00:34:45.820
fawning people whose job it is to agree with everything you say. And, uh, you know, it's
00:34:49.720
irresponsible and then they've got to be, uh, censored. Says Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, a basketball
00:34:58.580
player, a very famous basketball player and guy who was in some movies. And specifically he was
00:35:04.680
saying that John Voight should be kicked off big tech and, uh, James Woods should as well. Two of the
00:35:09.780
only outspoken conservatives in all of Hollywood. Those guys are going to come after you too.
00:35:17.720
It is not conspiracy theory thinking to say that we need to be skeptical of these established
00:35:24.180
institutions, the government institutions, and even the institutions outside of the government.
00:35:29.160
It's the only conspiracy theory is that those institutions are not political. That, that isn't
00:35:34.400
truly a crazy conspiracy theory. There is a, I guess you could use the word conspiracy. It's not
00:35:41.540
really a conspiracy. It's just an establishment. It's an established standard across all of these
00:35:48.120
different sectors, all of which are hell bent on shutting up conservatives, making sure we don't
00:35:55.960
have a voice. You're not going to get that unity and healing, assuming Joe Biden gets it January 20th.
00:36:01.200
So you are going to get a vindictive response, revenge. And if conservatives don't prepare for
00:36:07.480
that now, and if we're not prepared to fight on every front of that, not just the governmental front,
00:36:14.060
but also in commercial life, also in educational life, also in technology. If you're not prepared to
00:36:20.920
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dailywire.com. We'll be right back with the mailbag.
00:37:10.600
I'm always running late on the mailbag, but I will fly through this and get to as many questions
00:37:14.780
as I can. From Jenny, I know it's a long shot, but let's pretend that on January 6th, the miracle
00:37:19.540
occurs and President Trump gets four more years. What do you think will be the ramifications of that?
00:37:24.980
I believe President Trump has done great things and deserves four more years, but I fear the
00:37:29.060
violence that will surely come from the left. Do you think, assuming this miraculous intervention
00:37:34.220
takes place, that the country will be better or worse for it? I love all your shows and can't wait
00:37:38.560
to see what the future holds for the dailywire. Take care. Thank you very much. I think it would be
00:37:44.720
great if President Trump got another four years and I think it will be bad if he doesn't.
00:37:49.560
And I understand the argument here. According to some scuttlebutt rumors, gossip columns,
00:37:54.220
this is what the Supreme Court was talking about. They said, there are going to be riots if we give
00:37:58.120
it to Trump. I don't know whether that, I usually don't believe gossip that comes out of the court
00:38:02.320
because it comes from staffers who are, if they're leaking this stuff, by definition,
00:38:07.340
they're kind of unreliable. But I don't buy into this argument that because the left is threatening
00:38:14.140
us with violence, we should give them what they want. That's called appeasement. That's called
00:38:18.020
surrender. That's called cowardice. I'm not giving into that at all. I don't care. I'm not going to
00:38:25.680
let a bunch of bullies destroy my country because I'm afraid of them. No chance. If there were any
00:38:32.000
way that Trump could get four more years legally, he shouldn't do it illegally, but if there were a
00:38:36.500
legal way to do it, I would be all for it. And I don't care what kind of temper tantrum the left
00:38:40.820
would have. I don't care if they would try to burn down cities. If they tried to commit crimes,
00:38:43.860
we could arrest them and put them in prison. I am not going to have some leftist walk into my
00:38:51.180
business and say, it's a nice pizza shop you got here. Sure would be a shame if something happened
00:38:55.680
to it. No, thank you, sir. Not a chance. From Nicholas, dear austere religious podcaster,
00:39:02.840
Dr. Michael Knowles. Thank you for using my title. I have been watching all the Daily Wire shows for
00:39:08.280
years now. One of the most interesting discussions I've seen is on pornography. I have a couple of
00:39:12.420
questions. One is someone who's struggled with pornography for most of my life. What is the
00:39:15.500
best way to get away from it? It's had a tremendous negative impact on my life and I frankly don't know
00:39:20.160
what to do other than give in. How can we, two, how can we as conservatives best advocate for the
00:39:24.960
removal of porn from mainstream society? Sincerely, asking for a friend. Good way to put it. I think
00:39:30.640
you're asking for a lot of friends. This is true for a huge number. I mean, the vast, vast majority of
00:39:35.860
men in this country have struggled with this. They always say, what they say, what it's 93% have looked at
00:39:41.100
internet porn and 7% are liars, is the line for men. I don't know. Maybe women are more moral than
00:39:46.260
men, but it's a, it's a scourge obviously. And it's, it's also just categorically different than
00:39:50.800
in the old days when you had to go to some seedy part of town and buy some pictures or a, or a
00:39:54.520
magazine. Now it comes zapped right into your phone from anywhere. It's extraordinarily high speed.
00:40:01.040
You know, there's a zillion different movies and videos, even though Pornhub apparently just kicked
00:40:06.280
off half their videos. So it's, it's a, you know, probably the defining sort of fleshy temptation
00:40:12.300
of the age, but for sure. How can you avoid it? Well, it's, it's, once you're hooked, it's much,
00:40:19.500
like any vice, once you're hooked, it's, it's harder to get out of it. But like drinking, you know,
00:40:22.780
it's easier to control your drinking if you're not already an alcoholic. If you are an alcoholic,
00:40:27.480
it's going to be a little harder, but look, everybody deals with various temptations and
00:40:30.860
addictions and things like that. So one way to do it is there's a Catholic concept. And I think
00:40:36.400
probably other denominations have this concept too, which is the near occasion of sin. The idea
00:40:42.100
that there's sin, you know, you, you're looking at the porn or whatever, you're, I don't know,
00:40:46.300
you're stealing things or you're coveting your neighbor's ox or whatever the sin is. And so that's
00:40:52.480
a sin in and of itself. But if you put yourself in a situation where you are more likely to give into
00:40:59.700
that temptation, then you are culpable for that too. The near, the near occasion of sin is something
00:41:04.920
you need to keep yourself away from. Don't, don't put yourself in a place where you could be tempted.
00:41:09.740
So some ways to do that. I don't know. I mean, there are, I was talking to, I think it was Matt
00:41:12.800
Fradd, the Catholic podcaster has written extensively about this. You can, you know, put different blockers
00:41:20.720
and things on your computer. You can make sure that you're not, you don't find yourself in situations
00:41:24.700
where you're looking at the porn a lot. You should go to confession. You should make sure that
00:41:29.280
you try to practice the other virtues and you should recognize like any, you know, if you were
00:41:32.780
going to AA and talking about alcohol, you would, you would recognize this too, that you're going to
00:41:37.520
stumble. And, you know, if let's say you're looking at porn every day or more than every day, let's,
00:41:42.820
but let's say you're looking at it every day and then you find yourself and you, you were able to
00:41:47.220
look at it, I don't know, a couple of times a week or something. And then you're able to look at it
00:41:50.760
once a week and then you're able to look at it once a month and you're able, that's something. I mean,
00:41:54.520
that's progress. Maybe it'd be better to go cold Turkey, you know, but I think the comparison here
00:41:59.620
to alcoholism is important. And the recognition that if you stumble, all, all sin and fall short
00:42:04.540
of the glory of God, but you got to keep working at it. You know, sometimes occasionally people will
00:42:09.580
introduce me if I'm speaking at a Catholic event, they'll say, Michael's a devout Catholic. And I
00:42:14.080
always kind of pull away from that, not because I have any doubts about the Catholic faith, but because
00:42:19.080
I prefer the term practicing Catholic because you, the idea of practicing Catholic is you're doing it
00:42:23.520
and you're going to keep on practicing until you get it right. And this is true outside of
00:42:27.220
even just a strictly religious realm of the virtues. You're going to keep on practicing the
00:42:32.080
virtues, even put porn aside for a second, or I'm sure there are a lot of virtues that we all fall
00:42:36.080
short in. And if you just keep practicing them, you will get better at them. You won't, you won't be
00:42:41.120
perfect because it's a fallen world, but you, you actually will get better at them. You can get better.
00:42:45.900
And so I would just encourage you in that. Encourage means to take heart from the, from core,
00:42:50.780
right? So just take heart, have, have courage when you stumble, get back up and keep trying again.
00:42:57.120
Best of luck. I know a lot of people are struggling with that. So, you know, pray about it too, and just
00:43:01.780
keep, keep, keep the faith and keep working. From Father Greg. Oh, how about that? I'm a Catholic
00:43:08.140
priest writing you from the frozen land to the North known as Canada, which I lovingly call America's
00:43:14.280
hat. Recently, our premier declared that churches are only allowed 30 people regardless of size,
00:43:19.860
while businesses are allowed 50% capacity. Moreover, the restriction on churches is effective
00:43:24.660
immediately. Whereas the restrictions on businesses don't come into effect till December 25th.
00:43:29.620
Here is my question. Is it time we reconsider this whole selling of indulgences thing?
00:43:36.460
Perhaps we gave it up too quickly. Johann Tetzel had some problems with mismanagement,
00:43:41.820
but the underlying business model strikes me as sound. Moreover, I've already spoken to several of my
00:43:46.900
Protestant friends who are warm to the idea if it means they could go to church. Wouldn't that be
00:43:51.920
the perfect ending to 2020? Catholics and Protestants coming together around indulgences.
00:43:57.220
Let me know what you think in Christ, Father Greg. An excellent point you raise, Father. It had not
00:44:02.580
occurred to me, but it's an excellent point. Frankly, I don't really have much of an issue with the sale of
00:44:07.500
indulgences generally. I think this is, you know, as I suspect you know as well, this is a very
00:44:12.060
misrepresented topic and a very exaggerated topic. And I don't think that, I think indulgences obviously
00:44:19.360
still exist as they should. And I think giving alms is a very good thing. And I think those things go
00:44:25.340
well together. But beyond that, even just from a purely political standpoint, it would be delightful.
00:44:31.800
It would be one of the wonderful, joyous turns of providence if the sale of indulgences could bring
00:44:40.320
the Catholic and Protestants back together. Because in our day and age, the secular religion that we
00:44:49.100
all have, the secular religion of liberalism understands that only commerce is the protected
00:44:56.500
activity. That's the liturgy that we have to protect. All these silly things like going to church,
00:45:01.500
you know, or going to synagogue. That, that's crazy. You don't need to do any of that. You just
00:45:05.640
got to go buy more stuff. Well, okay. Two can play at that game. Very, very wise idea, Father Greg.
00:45:12.060
From Tyler. I'll do one more. I am a 16-year-old Canadian boy, lots of Canadians today. And I need
00:45:18.180
your advice on a situation that is happening in my life at the moment. At my school, I am openly
00:45:22.400
conservative. I have worn my red Trump hat to school many times. I was notified by the vice
00:45:27.840
principal that my hat offended a student. So our school was not a safe space anymore.
00:45:32.960
Oh my gosh. Man, I'm so glad I'm not a kid. I mean, it would be, it was crazy enough when I was a kid,
00:45:38.620
but now, goodness gracious. Since I was not allowed to wear my red MAGA hat, I went onto Amazon and bought
00:45:45.080
a black MAGA hat because I wanted to continue to express my conservative opinion and have meaningful
00:45:49.920
discussions about politics with my peers. I had my black MAGA hat taken away because it was also
00:45:55.740
offensive. When I retrieved it at the end of the day, I was told that I would be suspended if I wore
00:46:00.920
another Trump hat or anything like that to school again. I asked why my political speech was not
00:46:05.300
allowed, but the gay pride flag was. And she said that I am not a marginalized group. I'm a straight
00:46:09.620
white male. Oh, you're, you're the worst. You're the oppressor. She said that the LGBT groups were not
00:46:16.240
political. Ah, there it is. But they are only supporting equal rights for marginalized people.
00:46:21.020
I want to continue to be openly conservative, but I do not want to be suspended. What should I do?
00:46:24.340
Well, you're in a tricky spot because your, your school administrator is obviously extremely stupid
00:46:29.760
and ignorant and, and doesn't even understand the words that are coming out of her mouth.
00:46:34.560
So when she says this political symbol is not political because it's only about equality and
00:46:42.740
rights. So one response you could have is I'm pretty sure equality and rights are political
00:46:50.600
subjects. I think this is written about in the Declaration of Independence, for instance,
00:46:56.080
all men are created equal and they're endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:46:59.760
That's obviously a political sort of statement, but, but what it comes from is this,
00:47:04.120
this very narrow understanding of politics, which the left and the right have both acquiesced to both
00:47:10.980
really the right, the left forced it on us and the right acquiesced and agreed to it,
00:47:15.640
which is what politics means most basically is public life, how we all get along together.
00:47:22.440
That's what Aristotle's talking about in Aristotle's politics, you know, wrote a whole book on the
00:47:27.360
subject. And this is how we've understood politics for most of our civilization's history.
00:47:33.020
Then in recent years, and really you see this ramp up during the sixties, the left comes in and says,
00:47:40.040
everything is political now. So it used to be, you know, you had public life and that was all
00:47:45.120
political, but you know, the way that you lived with your family, that was sort of private or the
00:47:52.500
way that you, the Nike shoes, the sneakers that you bought were, those were private choices. That's
00:47:59.060
not a political choice, right? It doesn't really affect anything. The Nike comes in recently and
00:48:03.360
makes it a very political choice, but everything became political. The kind of coffee you drink
00:48:06.820
becomes political. The kind of movies you go see become political. Everything becomes political
00:48:12.740
in the sense of partisan, ideological. Your relationship to your wife becomes very political.
00:48:17.560
I mean, the feminists in the seventies said the personal is the political, but the irony of this
00:48:21.600
was that the political life became depoliticized. All the things that you really should be able to
00:48:28.560
debate, the definition of marriage, the laws that we have surrounding abortion, you know, killing
00:48:34.240
babies, all these sorts of things, the death penalty, they were taken out of politics. So we could no
00:48:42.920
longer debate those things. We just had experts tell us what to do. Whether you're going to wear a
00:48:48.380
mask all the time and cover your face up for over a year in public, that became not, no longer is that
00:48:53.860
a political question. And the right really led by libertarians acquiesced to this. They said, yeah,
00:48:59.500
that's true. We just have to shrink the government, not let the government do anything. And the
00:49:04.800
government now is going to be what we talk about instead of politics more broadly. And that's,
00:49:09.280
that's going to be that. Well, look at the effect of this. I think you need to tell your teacher
00:49:14.400
or administrator or whatever, that politics is much bigger than this, that you are, you are by
00:49:20.920
definition, a marginalized group because you're expressing a political opinion that is quite mainstream,
00:49:26.380
right? So mainstream that the originator of that opinion is the president of the United States,
00:49:31.220
that you're, you're expressing that opinion and you're being threatened with suspension and you're
00:49:34.080
the most marginalized group in the entire school. She'll still probably suspend you because
00:49:39.620
that's the political regime that we're living in now in Canada is to the left of America.
00:49:45.440
You can at least make your case. You might get suspended though. It might force you not to wear the
00:49:50.560
hat. And as long as you're a student, you're, you're going to have to deal with that. I mean,
00:49:56.820
that, that's the sort of prudential and practical reality of it. But I think if in the meantime,
00:50:01.500
you could teach your teacher something, that would be very helpful. You know, we've had a big debate
00:50:06.000
over whether Jill Biden's a doctor or not, because she has this kind of administrative credential
00:50:10.040
from a university that has a building named after her husband. And, you know, is she really a
00:50:16.140
doctor? Well, she's not a PhD and she's not an MD. And she, and I've said, you know, doctors are
00:50:21.020
people who teach people. So you, you can be a doctor. Yeah. My young doctor friend in Canada,
00:50:26.420
please teach your teacher. We'll all have a lot of teaching to do. And unfortunately it sounds like
00:50:30.960
the left does not want to listen, but we can all listen to one another again on Monday. In the
00:50:35.640
meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. See you then.
00:50:37.680
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The Michael Knowles show is produced by Ben Davies, executive producer, Jeremy Boring. Our
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technical director is Austin Stevens, supervising producers, Mathis Glover and Robert Sterling,
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production manager, Pavel Vidovsky, editor and associate producer, Danny D'Amico, audio mixer,
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Mike Coromino, hair and makeup by Nika Geneva, and production assistant, McKenna Waters. The Michael
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Knowles show is a Daily Wire production, copyright Daily Wire 2020. If you prefer facts over feelings,
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aren't offended by the brutal truth, and you can still laugh at the insanity filling our national
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news cycle, well, tune in to the Ben Shapiro show. We'll get a whole lot of that and much more. See you there.