Ep. 721 - Is The Pope Catholic？
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The Vatican has declared that it still holds the same views that it has for over 2000 years on sex and marriage, which is absolutely shocking to mainstream media journalists who just cannot wrap their minds around the fact that the Pope is Catholic and that secular liberalism is a jealous God.
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Breaking news. The Vatican has just declared that it still holds the same views that it has for 2000
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years on sex and marriage, which is absolutely shocking to mainstream media journalists who
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just cannot wrap their minds around the fact that the Pope is Catholic. Secular liberalism
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is a jealous God. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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today. People are shocked by this announcement. The Vatican released a statement. It was on the question
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of same sex marriage. You know, over the past, I guess now, what is it? Eight years or so,
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there has been a major movement in the West to redefine marriage from its historic definition
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as the union of husbands and wives. And more specifically for most of the time,
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the union of one husband and one wife to now a monogamous union. So they, they kept the monogamy
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part, but got rid of the sexual difference part. And people at the time on the left were arguing
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that this was a matter of rights and people on the right were failing to argue, but we're trying
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to argue at least that this was not a matter of rights. This was a question of what marriage is
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it for all of human history. Everywhere on earth, marriage has had something to do with sexual
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difference. Now, if you're radically going to redefine that and you're going to take away the
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essential quality of marriage for the essential social institution, maybe we should proceed with
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caution on that. Conservatives lost that battle in the courts. And now though, we were, we were told
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at that time that, you know, look, if you have a certain religious view, that's okay. Why does my gay
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marriage have anything to do with your straight marriage? Now people are really shocked to find
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out that the Catholic church, the single most enduring institution in our entire civilization,
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they're shocked to find out that they still hold the same views that they always have
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on marriage. Don Lemon went on The View and chatted on this issue with Meghan McCain.
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You got engaged to your fiance, Tim, in 2019. And this morning, and you guys are so cute,
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we learned that the Vatican has said that the Catholic church won't bless same-sex unions,
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quote, since God cannot bless sin. They go on to say that this does not imply a judgment on persons.
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But I want to know, do you think this sends a damaging message? And how do you feel about that,
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given that obviously, you are now engaged and going to get married?
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Well, I think there are, listen, I respect people's right to believe in whatever they want
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to believe in their God. But if you believe in something that hurts another person, that does
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not give someone the same rights or freedoms, not necessarily under the Constitution, because this
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is under God, I think that that's wrong. And I think that the Catholic church and many other
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churches really need to reexamine themselves and their teachings, because that is not what God is
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about. God is not about hindering people or even judging people.
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I love this, because this is, I don't even really care about the media shock regarding Catholicism.
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The media are ignorant and arrogant, and they vary in between, they vacillate in between those two
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poles. But what I care about here is the presumption. Don Lemon says, I respect people's right to believe
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in their religions. But, right, and then the but immediately contradicts everything he previously
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said, because he says, I respect people's right to believe in their religions. But if it contradicts my
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religion, if it contradicts my view, my interpretation of people's rights and freedoms and what people
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ought to be able to do, if it in any way, if other people's views contradict my beliefs, then those
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beliefs ought to cut it out. Then those people need to ditch those old beliefs. He's saying, because
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if it contradicts my rights, well, where do rights come from? Rights come from the law. Natural rights come
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from the natural law. Who gives us the natural law? God. All laws, all rights have ultimately come
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back to morality, who gives us morality, a religious view of the world. So Don Lemon says, sure, you can
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believe whatever you want. Just, just don't contradict me. And then he says, after this whole look, man,
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just don't, come on, we can all believe what we want to believe, you know, and just after all this
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kind of dishonest, hippy dippy rhetoric, he then says, let me tell you what God thinks. He then says
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the Catholic church, bark of Peter, 2000 years. If you're Catholic, you believe instituted by Christ
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himself, hands the keys to the kingdom of heaven to St. Peter, the first Pope. Who knows better about
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what God thinks? The Catholic church or Don freaking Lemon. Catholic church, even if you don't believe,
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I believe this, but let's say you don't believe this, that the Catholic church is divinely instituted.
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Surely it is the case that an institution that has been devoted to interpreting scripture and
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developing theology for 2000 years might have more sophisticated views on the subject of what God
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thinks than a CNN host named Don Lemon. And, and we know that this is true because Don Lemon last
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year talking about a different subject, uh, made a little bit of a crucial theological mistake.
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But here's the thing, Jesus Christ, if you believe in, if you, if that's who you believe in, Jesus Christ,
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admittedly was not perfect when he was here on this earth. So why are we deifying the founders of this
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country? Many of whom own slaves. Jesus Christ was admittedly, he says, not perfect when he was on
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this earth. So he's not, he's not merely denying the divinity of Christ, which is an ancient, ancient
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heresy. It's one of the earliest heresies in the church. He's also just making things up about the,
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the text of the gospels, right? He's saying, yeah, admittedly, you know, Christ admitted this.
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Uh, I, I would like to see that verse because it's pretty central to the whole thing that Christ
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is perfect. Christ is blameless. The sacrifice on the cross is perfect because Christ is perfect.
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So all of that to say, Don Lemon, not the most educated in theology, but he is very presumptuous.
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He is frequently wrong, but never in doubt. I bring up this story, not, not so much for the
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sexual aspect, but for the political aspect, because it's coming back to freedom and rights
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and this very liberal interpretation of freedom and rights, which now constitutes the secular
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religion. I don't think that people are really ignorant of the, the Catholic church's teaching
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on marriage. I don't think that while people are clutching their pearls, I don't think it's
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that of ignorance. I think the shock is because they just assume that eventually we're all going
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to ditch our own beliefs, our old, you know, sturdy beliefs that have endured for millennia.
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And we are going to adopt the new faddish beliefs of secular liberal modernity. In a sane culture,
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the shock would be if the Catholic church, which has held one view for 2000 years about a very
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crucial fundamental matter, just completely changed it overnight. That would be shocking to a sane
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culture. But because we're now in an insane culture, the shock to us is that they didn't
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change their views overnight. Because in, you heard this in, even in the way Don Lemon spoke,
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it gets back to something that Barack Obama used to use a lot of certain rhetorical trick,
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which is we've, we've gone from discussing freedom of religion and the practice of religion to
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freedom of belief is what Don Lemon's talking about, or freedom of worship as Barack Obama says,
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because those phrases water down religion. Freedom of worship, what does that bring up in your mind?
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It means you get to go to your church on Sunday and sing some songs and then leave,
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right? And then go, and then get back to the business of liberal modernity.
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Okay, good. Then you get back to secularism Monday through Saturday. Then Sunday, you can
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have freedom to worship. Freedom of belief is just, you can have some ideas swimming in your head.
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You can't even really articulate them necessarily. It was just freedom of belief.
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But freedom of religion is different because religion is not just a hobby. Religion is not just
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something you compartmentalize, like we compartmentalize so much in modernity. Religion
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religion is everything. And we all knew this as a civilization until like five minutes ago.
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Our founding fathers understood this. They understood the religious basis of government.
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That's why they invoke the creator. That's why they invoke God and the natural rights given to us by God
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in the Declaration of Independence. Cardinal Manning famously observed that all human conflict
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ultimately is theological. But because liberalism is such a jealous God, many liberals today,
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they can't even wrap their minds around that. That you wouldn't just ditch the enduring views that
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built our civilization and that edify the human soul and turn our eyes up toward the heavens.
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That we wouldn't just ditch that for a bunch of technocrats in lab coats,
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for a bunch of modern libs taking power and telling us what to do because they know the
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most efficient way to run society. Joe Biden, prime example of this, right? Joe Biden,
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devout Catholic Joe Biden was asked his view on the Vatican's perfectly anodyne statement that
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should have surprised nobody. He, he's upset about it.
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On a different subject, the Vatican today said it would not bless same-sex unions. The president's
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devout Catholic. Does he have a personal response to that?
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I don't think he has a personal response to the Vatican, no. He continues to believe
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and support same-sex unions, as you know, and he's long had that position.
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He's long had that position. He's only had that position since, what was it, 2012?
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He's had that position for nine years. He's been in politics for something like 50 years.
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So even Joe Biden, who is the most radical president we've ever had, not because I think he
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has particular ideological commitments. He's just a sort of weather vane. He's an empty vessel
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for the Democratic Party establishment, which is moving further and further to the left.
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But even, even just by his own standard, for the vast majority of his political career,
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to say nothing of the vast majority of his life, he has held the Catholic view or at least espoused
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the Catholic view. But now, because of the acceleration of this cultural radicalism,
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even that absolutely anathema. Joe Biden has, back before I was shaving, Joe Biden held these views.
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the Catholic Church on this sort of fundamental issue of marriage. But he continues to call himself
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a devout Catholic because one of the tools of political correctness, which is, you know,
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we use the term political correctness or wokeness or whatever, but these are, these are just the
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instruments of political leftism. Joe Biden believes that by changing words, you can in some way
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change reality. That is one of the central conceit of political correctness. And so forget about
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marriage, right? The idea that you can just by changing the words, you can change the reality
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of that thing. Down at the Southern border, Joe Biden is facing an historic crisis. People flooding
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over the border. We're seeing huge, huge spikes, kids in cages, the likes of which we never saw under
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President Trump, despite media coverage to the contrary, despite the negative press covfefe.
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So Joe and his team believe that by, by redefining what's going on at the border, they can redefine
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the, the reality of it. Jen Psaki was asked about this crisis down there. Ah, she, she doesn't want
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to call it that. Mexico's president, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador says the people coming into the U.S.
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right now see Biden, President Biden, as the migrant president. Does the Lighthouse take that as a
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compliment? Migrant. Give me a little more context. Well, he said, they see him as the migrant
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president and so many feel, so many feel they're going to reach the United States. We need to work
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together to regulate the flow because this business can't be tackled from one day to the next.
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Well, first it's Mexico will have to be, is an important partner in ensuring we're addressing
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the flow of migrants from Central America through Mexico and many to the border of the United States.
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uh, we have conveyed, uh, privately and publicly as well, that the majority of people who come to
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our border will be turned away. Okay. So still downplaying this. I mean, the reporters have
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asking, have been asking for weeks now, will you call it a crisis? Is it a crisis? She, she won't do
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it. Now you've even got the president of Mexico saying this, this is Biden's fault. Biden is creating
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incentives for people to be flowing to the border. And even that just downplaying it. No, no, you
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understand. There are migrants. They're calm. This is all perfectly normal. They're, they're fleeing
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their countries. They're going through Mexico, but they're not staying in Mexico because Mexico's not
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that nice. And America's really nice. And you know, they're just seeking safety from political
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persecution, but they want to seek the safety, maybe more up here where we have a strong economy
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and a, a stable government at a stable government, at least for now.
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The, and so, so is he the migrant president? Well, what do you mean by migrant president? Do you
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mean, well, I don't know, does the word mean this? What's actually happening? Joe Biden is creating
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incentives, massive incentives, including a mass amnesty plan, uh, for illegal aliens. And so you're
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getting more illegal aliens. This is a central tactic to distract us in these kinds of semantic
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debates. But the problem is the words really, really do matter because they really do color
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how we view these things. Imagine, imagine if this had been president Trump, the kind of coverage
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this would be getting, but by using that kind of anodyne language, oh, well, it depends, you know,
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they just move right on. Another PC tactic is playing to people's basest sexual passions.
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This is where the, the sex issue does kind of matter. I mentioned earlier, my, my interest in
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the, the story, my political interest in the Catholic story is, has more to do with our
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understanding of freedom and rights and liberal modernity. But my interest in WAP, my interest in
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the Grammys, my interest in Cardi B's performance a couple nights ago, that actually does have to do
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with the sexual aspect. Because the left, certainly since the 1960s and the sexual revolution, but even
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before that, the, the left recognized that by arousing certain sexual passions, you can deprive
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people of their, their control over their higher faculties and you can make them easier to control.
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I will, uh, spare you the full WAP performance between Cardi B and some other musician.
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Okay. Is she a musician? I guess, uh, uh, during, during the event, but just,
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just take a listen to, uh, to one brief passage.
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This is so, you can't even be mad. You can't even be angry.
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if you just look at this, because I think you know, I've mentioned this before, I'm not
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the most hip guy when it comes to popular music. I haven't listened to many Cardi B arias in my
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life. I haven't tuned into them. So this really is pretty foreign to me whenever I see this sort
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of thing. And watching it, I, I, I'm, I'm not the sort of person who is immune to desires of the
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flesh. Okay. I'm not, I'm not saying that there's no way to interest me to, you know, however,
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that does not interest me. That performance does not arouse me in the slightest because it is
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grotesque. It's not like, do you ever wonder when you, when you watch old movies or you, I don't
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know, pick up a history book or something about a hundred years ago, we joke about it now. If a
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woman showed, I don't know, a little, a little leg, you know, a little, just lift me, you know,
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there's a joke here. She lifts up her skirt to show her ankle. Men would go crazy because the culture
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was so repressed. The culture was so focused on maintaining certain sexual boundaries that anytime
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you would transgress it even a little bit, it was, it was pretty sexy. And then over time, as, as
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sexual mores began to be eroded, you would require more and more to stimulate you sexually. So, you know,
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then it became women would wear even looser clothing or then it became women would wear bikinis and
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then it would be, it became, you know, even I was watching some movies from the nineties over the
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past few weeks and even the way that sex was hinted at there. And this was not that long ago.
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It was not nearly as grotesque as it is now, but because now we've lost all boundaries because now
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we're in a culture that is saturated by high speed internet pornography for, for one. And then even
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in the pop culture, you get stuff like WAP because of that, we're just kind of desensitized to it.
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And so you need more and more and more to stimulate you. I suspect this is why you see pornography
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proliferating as it has. You're seeing now porn getting so violent that you had under the Bush
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administration, the federal government prosecuting pornographers because it was so, it was, it became
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so violent. Sure. If you have a culture where young boys are exposed to this at a very young age,
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you're just going to be desensitized. But don't you think like if, if you're finding WAP
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really arousing to you, hasn't something gone wrong with you? If that's what you need to stay
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stimulated, don't you think there might be a problem with that? What we are told is that, uh, being able
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to WAP, WAP ourselves all day long is, uh, somehow the height of freedom, right? This, what we are told
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by liberal modernity is that Cardi B, you know, bumping and grinding on a stage with that other
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chick and yelling about her WAP, that is the height of liberation and, and empowerment. And, you know,
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I'm woman, hear me roar. But of course that's not true. It, you just look like prostitutes, right?
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There's no, there would be no difference. But if, if you were to show that video maybe 10 years ago,
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people would think it was porn, right? But now it's actually mainstream entertainment that kids
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can watch. They can't watch Dumbo the elephant on Disney plus, but they can watch WAP on, on TV.
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Is that empowerment? No. Is that liberty? No. That is the opposite actually, because the
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conservative view of liberty, the classical view of liberty, the Christian view of liberty,
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all of them recognize that liberty and licentiousness are not only not the same thing,
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they're opposites. The more you give into your base appetites and desires, the less free you will
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be. The man who sins is a slave to sin. Our free government is built for a moral and religious
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people. It's unfit to any other kind of people, according to John Adams. The left though has made
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this excellent little trick, this very clever little trick where they've conflated those two terms.
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And now we, we get very confused by, by all this sort, sort of stuff. Shockingly though,
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WAP was not the most, uh, wild thing at the Grammys. This was not the most controversial
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thing whatsoever. That honor would have to go to Bill Burr, the comedian Bill Burr, who did not
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jiggle around his WAP, thankfully, uh, because that, that wouldn't have shocked and offended anybody.
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He contradicted political correctness. He made jokes about the overarching liberal framework that
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we're all living under and that they are not going to so easily forgive. Ben, who, you know,
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is one of the most famous, uh, rappers ever to cover WAP. Uh, he will be, he's a Wapper, I guess.
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He will be talking about Cardi B. So definitely go check that out. Um, also the wait is over.
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for 25% off. We'll be right back with a lot more. Bill Burr, the comedian Bill Burr made the biggest
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splash at the Grammys. Bill Burr contradicted political correctness. Take a listen to his
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introduction to one of the awards. How are you? Was I the only one who wanted to kill himself
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during that piano solo? Um, I bought a suit for this. I thought I was going to be on TV. I'm such
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a moron. I am losing so much money right now. All right. Shout out to all the rock stars that I
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wanted to meet tonight who are watching at home. Instead, I'm talking to you, Don Dockin. All right.
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What? I'm old. That was my first concert. All right. Here are the next categories. All right.
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Hey, how many feminists are like going nuts? So how, why is this, this white male doing all this
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Latino stuff? It was by far the highlight of, of the night. I didn't watch the whole thing. I'm
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just assuming it was the only clip I've seen that, that made me chuckle. So Bill Burr walks out there.
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He says, wait a second, this isn't even the Grammys. You're not, no one's here. You're all
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just zooming in. You idiots. What are you doing? Okay. Well, this is a waste. And okay, now I've got
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to read all these Spanish guy names. I bet they're going to get really angry at me. Right. And so
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people, people are trying to cancel Bill Burr and call him a racist and a, you know, white supremacist
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and all that kind of stuff. Now, if you're not a fan of Bill Burr, you, you might be persuaded by
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these kinds of attacks. However, if you do follow Bill Burr, you will know that he's married to a
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black woman. He's obviously not a racist. If a guy married to a black woman can be a racist,
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then racism doesn't mean anything anymore. This reminds me of one time, David Webb,
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a conservative commentator was, he was hosting radio and a woman called in a black liberal woman
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called in and they were disagreeing. And she said, well, you, you only think that David,
00:27:24.760
because of your white privilege. And, and David said, are you sure about that? Yeah,
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I know it's your white privilege. He goes, you know, I, I think if we were in studio or on TV
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right now, you might change your opinion because David Webb is a black man. You, you hear this
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phrase, racism, white supremacy. It's just thrown out. It just means bad. It's just like throwing
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spaghetti at the wall. And then occasionally people get embarrassed by this sort of thing.
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I think Bill Burr though has exactly the right approach. Just laugh at this kind of nonsense.
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Laugh at the PC stuff. They get so angry when you laugh at it. So first you have to laugh. Then you
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have to be bold though. You have to go out and follow that up with action. I have a great,
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great example of what we could do to, to show what we mean. University of Wisconsin, Madison.
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The student government, University of Wisconsin, Madison, famously left-wing school has just taken
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a vote to double the ethnic studies requirement for graduates. The student government vote is not
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really going to matter, but it really caught my attention because if you can double the ethnic
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studies requirement, that means that there is an ethnic studies requirement. And that is a very bad
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idea. That's really bad. Ethnic studies, we also call this grievance studies, is an outgrowth of
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critical theory. It is a strictly ideological type of education based on very narrow leftist
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ideologies of the 20th century. It has destroyed in many ways classical liberal education in this
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country. It has no purpose in the university. Even the people who developed it acknowledged this was
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a different sort of thing. This was activism disguised as education. I detail this in my book,
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Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which is available for pre-order now, but it won't be
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available once Amazon realizes what the book's about and kicks it off. So if you want to pre-order
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it, you can pre-order it now. This should not be permitted in the universities. Now, the trap that
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the left left for conservatives and that conservatives have fallen into is that some
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conservatives give into this and say, yeah, it's great. Ethnic studies, love that. You know,
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the kind of squishy types. But then even the other conservatives, a lot of them will say, well,
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you know, academic freedom, we support, we're the true liberals. We support all this kind of crap in
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the university. We, we want total inclusion and you expand the curriculum, but just don't make me
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take the class. Just don't make me take ethnic studies. But absolutely, you can have this
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poisonous ideological indoctrination in the universities. Totally. Academic freedom,
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free speech, right? No, no. William F. Buckley Jr., when, when he founded the conservative movement
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with his book, God and Man at Yale, subtitled that book, The Superstitions of Academic Freedom.
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Academic freedom, he noted in the book, is a hoax. It's not, it's not real. It is a fraud that the
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left is perpetrating on us to destroy our institutions of education. It is not enough
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to say, hey, you have your ethnic studies courses, but just don't require us to take it. No, it should
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be banned from the university. It's poison. It's not enough to say, hey, you know, you've got that
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punch bowl over there. Yeah. And you, and you want to put some cyanide in it. Okay. Well, but just
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make sure the cyanide is only in your part of the punch bowl. Okay. So you, you're free to put it in,
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but I just don't, just don't make me drink from that portion of the punch bowl. First of all,
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it's a punch bowl. We're all in it. The university is a university. There is, theoretically, it's got
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a coherence to it. So if you poison part of it, you poison the whole thing. Our society is not just
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atomized individuals who can all just live completely on their own and not have any effect on
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one another. If we, we go back to this example, cause it's the clearest. If our society is confused
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about who a man is and what, who a woman is, then that is a social problem. We can't live in a
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society where we all get to define our own words, where some of us call Caitlyn Jenner, he, and some
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of us call Caitlyn Jenner, she. That just means we can't communicate with one another. That means
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we're speaking different languages. That means that we don't have a society or certainly not a
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functioning one. We have to come to terms with certain things and agree on certain things. And
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in this finite world of ours, we're going to include certain ideas. We're going to exclude
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certain ideas. And that's just the way it is. Nowhere is that truer than at the universities.
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The right, I think, has been very accommodating in, in the last century, certainly on the cultural
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matters. We've just rolled over. Okay. But I think even generally speaking, we try to play fair. You
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know, you have that conservative who's like, well, I respect your point of view and we can all have
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these different points of views and fair marketplace of ideas. And some students want to take this
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poisonous course in universities. That's, I respect that. Right. And you know, but I, if, if you want
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to go to drag queen story hour, that's wonderful. And you know, have, uh, transvestites twerking for
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toddlers at public, public libraries. That's, I respect that, but just please let us go to church on
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Sunday. Oh, you're not going to let us go to church on Sunday because Dr. Fauci said no. Okay. Well,
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whoopsie daisy. We'll try again next time. Conservatives try to be really accommodating.
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You can, you can tell my views on this sort of accommodation. The left does not, the left does
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not play fair. Nowhere is this clearer than in, uh, Washington Post correction that they just made.
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Washington Post, you'll recall, reported during the heat of the election and the election recounts,
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they had a headline quote, Trump pressured a Georgia elections investigator in a separate call,
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legal experts say could amount to obstruction. This was to some people, the basis of the,
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the case for impeaching Trump. He's, it's a power grab. He's a tyrant. He's a dictator. He's trying
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to pressure this Georgia secretary of state. This is illegal. It's unconstitutional.
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This was based on a scoop that Trump quote, urged Georgia's lead elections investigator to find the
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fraud in a lengthy December phone call saying the official would be a national hero.
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The Washington Post cited a single anonymous source who it then said confirmed the details
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of the private conversation. Now you'll, you'll note if you have followed anything about journalism,
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anonymous sources cannot confirm. There's no confirming. Anonymous sources give you something,
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but then you have to confirm it with a real source. They didn't do that. They just said,
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yeah, I see Trump. He's terrible guy. So here's the correction. Two months after publication of this
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story, the Georgia secretary of state released an audio recording of president Donald Trump's
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December phone call with the state's top elections investigator. The recording revealed that the post
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misquoted Trump's comments on the call based on information provided by a source. Trump did not
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tell the investigator to find the fraud or say she would be a national hero if she did so.
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Instead, Trump urged the investigator to scrutinize ballots in Fulton County, Georgia,
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asserting she would find dishonesty there. He also told her that she had the most important job in
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the country right now. A story about the recording can be found at this link. The headline and text
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of this story had been corrected to remove quotes misattributed to Trump.
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Thanks. Thanks Washington Post. That's good. First of all, no one, very, very few people are going to
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read that correction. Conservatives are people who listen to this show, maybe some others.
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Most people are not. Even if they were, even if this were national news all over all the networks
00:35:13.520
being covered wall to wall, wouldn't matter because the reporting, which was really a democratic
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hit job, already accomplished its goal of putting the political pressure on Trump,
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swaying the narrative surrounding the election and giving Georgia cover not to conduct an exhaustive
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recount. Hmm. Oops. Do you think the Washington Post is going to change anything about the way that
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it operates after this? No, it doesn't matter. They got away with it. Oh, oops. Yeah. We had to issue
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a correction. The whole story was bogus. Haha, we won. What, what incentive does the Washington Post have
00:35:53.780
to ever change the way that they do anything? They won't face no consequences. I do not think
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that conservatives should act in any immoral or unjust way, but it would be nice if we grew a spine.
00:36:07.740
It would be nice if we played as tough as the left does. Would be nice if instead of conservatives
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constantly finding themselves in a circular firing squad where all we ever try to do is just police what
00:36:19.600
all the other right wingers are saying and thinking and doing would be nice if we focused any of our
00:36:25.180
attention on the left and maybe had any kind of unity. The left is pretty unified for a group of
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sort of squabbling radicals. They're pretty unified when it comes to political action. The right,
00:36:38.440
not so much. Speaking of presidents, by the way, just in case you were sleeping too soundly at night,
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I would like to give you some nightmares. Meghan Markle, the erstwhile Duchess of Sussex
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is reportedly networking with top Democratic Party leaders and mulling a bid for the U.S. presidency
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in 2024. This, according to the Daily Mail, which cites an unnamed British Labour Party official.
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Is this true? Do I believe this? I don't believe generally the things I read in the papers,
00:37:12.640
but given the sort of, given the fact that Meghan Markle got her husband to leave his family,
00:37:19.460
his royal family, move back to America, and she's constantly courting fame and public favor.
00:37:26.700
Yeah, wouldn't be shocked. I don't know. Stranger things have happened.
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She believes that Biden, who will be 82 in 2024, might not run for a second term. Fair enough.
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Meghan's biographer and longtime friend, Omid Scobie, has claimed that the actress,
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quote, has her eyes set on the U.S. presidency.
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First of all, why does Meghan Markle have a biographer? This is news to me. I guess the fact
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that the guy's a friend of hers would make sense because she's like, hey, get me a biography. I'm
00:37:58.040
trying to run for office. On the one hand, this seems far-fetched. On another, Meghan Markle is the
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voice of a generation. She is. She is the classic millennial woman, millennial person who would
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rather pretend to be a princess on Disney than be an actual princess. She would rather have the
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appearance of the thing, right? That she would rather have the perks and the privileges of the thing
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rather than the substance of the thing. Big divide between left and right and I think
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a big marker of the millennial generation. Meghan Markle is no less qualified to be president than
00:38:41.760
AOC, right? AOC is a clever politician. Meghan Markle is a clever politician. AOC doesn't know
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nothing about nothing with regard to, say, history, philosophy, geopolitics, but neither does the
00:38:58.260
other one. Neither Markle nor AOC really know anything about that sort of stuff. Hasn't hampered
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either of their political careers. And Meghan Markle is a politician. Meghan Markle is an extraordinarily
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gifted politician. Meghan Markle nabbed herself a prince. And Meghan Markle not only nabbed herself a
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prince. She convinced him to leave the palaces, the castles, the country that his family symbolizes
00:39:25.780
and move with her to LA, right? I think they're living in LA. It's a city that I fled. LA, not a,
00:39:34.600
not a great place right now. Convinced Prince Harry to move with her to California to do what? So that
00:39:43.780
she could like do voiceovers for Disney. There was a great clip of Harry begging some entertainment
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CEOs, but you know, you might hire my wife to do some voiceover work, yes? So that she can be an
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actress. That's pretty powerful political skill. Is Meghan coming up in 2024? Maybe. It'd be hard to
00:40:03.200
imagine that Kamala Harris, who is a really skillful politician, which I've said from the very
00:40:08.240
beginning. I said early on in 2016, or 2020 rather, I said, watch out for Kamala Harris. She's a shark.
00:40:14.460
And then it seemed like my prediction was totally wrong because she was the first to drop out. But I
00:40:18.240
think I was actually vindicated because she, more than anyone else on that stage, other than Joe Biden,
00:40:23.820
has been able to amass political power. And frankly, maybe more so than Joe Biden, because
00:40:27.740
I think very few people believe Joe's actually running anything over there at the White House.
00:40:31.520
Speaking of people who want to be president, but who are also long shots at being president,
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poor Andrew Cuomo, poor Andrew Cuomo, poor deadly Andrew Cuomo, whose policies directly led to the
00:40:50.180
deaths of thousands of elderly New Yorkers. He's really under fire. Jen Psaki was asked whether or
00:40:56.660
not he should resign. What's the White House's opinion? Here's her answer.
00:40:59.600
Does the president believe the governor should resign?
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The president believes that every woman who's come forward, there have now been six, I believe,
00:41:08.100
who have come forward, deserves to have her voice heard, should be treated with respect,
00:41:12.680
and should be able to tell her story. There also is an independent investigation that is ongoing,
00:41:17.920
of course, in the state with subpoena power overseen by the attorney general. And he certainly
00:41:22.500
supports that moving forward. We, of course, have watched the news of a number of lawmakers call for
00:41:28.500
that. But I don't have any additional announcements from here.
00:41:31.720
So still playing it safe. Classic Biden move. Well, yeah, you've seen a lot of lawmakers calling
00:41:38.480
for his resignation. You know, we're monitoring closely. We work. So they're still holding on for
00:41:44.480
now. I have told you, look, it looks like it's difficult for Cuomo to survive this. So he might,
00:41:50.640
he might have to finally go. But if anybody is going to survive this scandal, it's going to be Andy
00:41:56.060
Cuomo. That guy is a political animal. He has been in the game since he ran his father's governor
00:42:01.340
campaign in New York at age 23. A lot of people owe him a lot of favors. It's a very corrupt state.
00:42:07.780
And Andrew Cuomo knows how to exercise the levers of power. But a lot of lawmakers are calling for
00:42:13.560
his resignation. It started out, it was just a few here and there. Then AOC calls for an investigation.
00:42:17.780
Then the leader, the leaders of the Senate and the Assembly in New York, both Democrats, call for his
00:42:25.200
resignation or impeachment, says he can't be governor anymore. Then Schumer and Gillibrand.
00:42:32.740
These are the two senators from New York. They've been there a long time, especially Chuck Schumer.
00:42:37.060
I remember the night Schumer got elected. And what was it, 98, something like that?
00:42:41.360
You know, this guy's been in office for a long time. He's a big power broker. He's the Senate
00:42:47.280
majority leader. Schumer and Gillibrand say, quote, confronting and overcoming the COVID crisis
00:42:53.240
requires sure and steady leadership. We commend the brave actions of the individuals who have come
00:42:57.620
forward with serious allegations of abuse and misconduct. Due to the multiple credible sexual
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harassment and misconduct allegations, it's clear that Governor Cuomo has lost the confidence of his
00:43:07.620
governing partners and the people of New York. Governor Cuomo should resign. Brilliant piece
00:43:13.740
of political messaging, classic Schumer statement. Andrew Cuomo should resign because his policies
00:43:22.060
killed thousands of New Yorkers needlessly during COVID because he handled COVID worse than any
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other governor in the entire country. That's why he should be booted from office. He should not be
00:43:35.060
booted from office because he gave a reporter a hot dog at a political event or looked at some
00:43:39.660
staffer funny or who knows. Now the allegations are getting a little bit more serious, but the
00:43:44.540
methodical way in which they have been trotted out makes me a little skeptical that the sex allegations
00:43:50.680
are really what's doing it. I just, I just don't buy it. It's all too politically convenient
00:43:57.360
and it redounds to the benefit of Democrats for, for Cuomo to be booted out for sex, sex
00:44:03.660
inappropriate behavior. I don't, what is it even? What are, what are the allegations? Now they're
00:44:07.880
saying he groped someone. That's only the very most recent one. Most of them are, yeah, he looked at me
00:44:11.780
weird. Yeah, he said something weird. Yeah, he gave me a hot dog. And then the reporter that he gave the
00:44:14.920
hot dog to says, it didn't bother me at all. I thought it was fine. Confronting and overcoming the
00:44:21.460
COVID crisis requires sure and steady leadership. So they're, they get to the COVID thing. They're
00:44:26.940
like, yeah, COVID is the point, but we're not booting him because Democrats mishandled COVID.
00:44:31.640
No, no, what? Huh? No, it's because of the serious allegations of giving an Italian sausage to a
00:44:39.000
reporter. It's a sandwich, you know, peppers and onions. That's why very serious that he's got to be
00:44:46.020
kicked out. No, it's obviously because of COVID. If he's going to go down, let him go down because of
00:44:49.900
COVID. If he goes down for the, the vague sex allegations, only Cuomo goes down. If he goes
00:44:56.100
down for COVID, other people go down too. Other Democrats who were involved in this go down too.
00:45:02.700
Maybe it reaches up a little bit higher than, than people think. Maybe, maybe the state democratic
00:45:10.980
machine in New York has a lot of culpability. Maybe we should prod into that. The, the real threat
00:45:17.020
Cuomo faces right now, I don't think is from these howling politicians. He doesn't care less.
00:45:21.760
He couldn't possibly care less what they think. It's from his ability to actually run the government.
00:45:26.900
There are reports now, who knows how true they are, but it's according to the New York Post,
00:45:31.220
that members of Cuomo's staff have stopped showing up for work.
00:45:36.160
They're, they're not showing up for work because they're afraid that if they continue to fight to the
00:45:41.040
very last with Cuomo, that will harm their political careers. So I'm going to take this story at
00:45:45.580
face value. People are saying that the state capitol building is virtually empty. Okay, fair enough.
00:45:52.480
Now, how busy has it been even before this? I don't know. People have been working from home
00:45:57.400
and telecommuting, particularly in New York because coronavirus was bad there because of Cuomo's policies.
00:46:02.400
So how bad is it really? Some, you know, if, can Cuomo still command his team? Doesn't really matter
00:46:13.480
if he can command some howling politicians in the Assembly or the Senate or Schumer or Gillibrand even,
00:46:18.620
can he command his team? If he can, he might be able to survive and he's a pretty ruthless
00:46:25.300
administrator. Before, before we go, I have to mention daylight savings time because we're talking
00:46:34.720
about evolution or revolution. You know, we're talking about how to conserve things. We're talking
00:46:39.240
about the Catholic Church, right, as a good model for this actually because they, the views have
00:46:44.460
developed over time. The church has not contradicted itself. The church can't contradict itself because
00:46:49.980
on matters of dogma, that is the truth and the truth doesn't just magically transform overnight.
00:46:56.380
But doctrine has developed, fair enough. Daylight savings time. Speaking of people not showing up to
00:47:01.540
work, daylight savings time. I have long defended daylight savings time. I think it's kind of a fun,
00:47:06.700
weird, quirky tradition that we have. However, I always say that in the fall when we get an extra
00:47:13.800
hour. Then in the spring, I don't like it so much. This might be a tradition that we might try
00:47:18.100
phasing out. This is actually how we're doing it in the country. Different states are kind of getting
00:47:22.500
rid of it or modifying it or slowly phasing it out. That might be good and I might look more rested this
00:47:28.240
week if, if we had done that. But this is actually a pretty good model, I think, for all sorts of
00:47:32.560
policy. Doing things gradually, trying things out in different areas, laboratories of democracy,
00:47:40.180
evolution, not revolution. This is a conservative way to look at things. That's not what the left
00:47:44.500
wants. The left wants a radical cultural revolution and they're shocked. The only shock they can feel
00:47:49.520
is when we don't get on board immediately. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you
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