Bill and Melinda Gates are asking for privacy, which is ironic given that they don t seem to care very much about anybody else's privacy on a whole host of matters, not even just tech, but whole aspects of public policy. However, the reason the Gates divorce matters, and the reason it matters, is because this actually is not a private matter. And the idea that it is a private matter lies at the heart of a lot of our political problems.
00:00:00.000Bill and Melinda Gates are getting divorced. Those crazy kids just ain't going to make it.
00:00:06.000They are asking for privacy right now, which is ironic given that they don't seem to care
00:00:10.180very much about anybody else's privacy on a whole host of matters, not even just tech,
00:00:14.880but whole aspects of public policy. However, the reason the Gates divorce matters and they're
00:00:21.200asking for privacy matters is this actually is not a private matter. And the idea that it is
00:00:27.820a private matter lies at the heart of a lot of our political problems. I'm Michael Knowles. This
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00:02:15.260We no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in the next phase of our lives.
00:02:23.500Say Bill and Melinda Gates in a joint statement on their divorce.
00:02:28.620Have you ever heard more ridiculous boomer nonsense than that? What does that even, what
00:02:35.840does that mean? We, we no longer believe we can grow, grow together. You're in your sixties.
00:02:43.100Bill is, I think Melinda Gates is in her fifties. A lady never tells.
00:02:47.380What does grow together? Like you're some 14 year old child in school. Look, I just got to find
00:02:53.360myself. I got to grow. No, you're married. You have children. You have,
00:02:56.260you more than maybe any other married couple in the world or more than the vast majority have
00:03:03.140built something together, but now you need to grow together. What does that mean in the next,
00:03:09.180what is the next phase of your life? You know, the next 20 years, what are you going to do? You're
00:03:14.120going to start going to Woodstock or something. You're going to, you're going to really explore and
00:03:18.740just, no, you're married. Like cut it out. Ridiculous boomer nonsense. The boomers,
00:03:26.260did this. I'm serious. No fault. Divorce was not permitted anywhere in this country until 1969.
00:03:35.4601969, California, of course, becomes the first state to create no fault divorce. Before that,
00:03:42.340if you wanted to get divorced, you had to have a reason for it because divorce is not just a private
00:03:48.360matter because marriage is not just a private matter. Marriage is a public contract. Marriage
00:03:53.440is a political act that you go in front of people. You stand on the altar. You make these vows,
00:04:01.180these permanent vows before, not just all the people around you, not just the whole community,
00:04:05.860which is the real political aspect here, but before God. And then you have the temerity to,
00:04:12.800well, this is just private. It's not just private. You don't invite all of your friends to private
00:04:17.380acts. Whenever you do some private acts, you know, that you want to keep very private in your own home,
00:04:21.280do you invite the whole neighborhood? No, you don't. But marriage is a public act.
00:04:27.360The state of California decided to make it easier to get divorced in only in 1969. But for the vast
00:04:34.880majority of our country's history, for the vast majority of our civilization's history,
00:04:38.740divorce was very difficult to obtain when it was not outright illegal.
00:04:42.020The reason that England split away from the Catholic church and cemented the Protestant
00:04:48.980revolution is because Henry VIII wanted to get a new wife and the Pope said, no, you can't do that.
00:04:54.520So Henry, he did not, I guess he didn't get divorced. He just ordered a nice sharp guillotine
00:04:59.220from France and then had his new, his new marriage. There have been some people in recent years who,
00:05:08.260many, many people in recent years who have said that the conservative answer on marriage
00:05:12.900is to get the government out of marriage altogether because of these impulses to change
00:05:17.780the definition of marriage or to weaken the bonds of marriage or to make marriage mean something very
00:05:21.640different than it does. Get the government out of marriage. Marriage and the family are the bedrock
00:05:30.240political institution. If the government, if the politics does not have something to say about
00:05:37.240the fundamental political institution, then it doesn't have anything to say about anything. It
00:05:41.780is just an incoherent statement to say the government needs to get out of marriage. Marriage is the
00:05:47.080fundamental building block of society. And our politics, the point of politics is for us to shape
00:05:53.560our society, for us to make sense of our society and all get along and live together.
00:05:57.980There is no such thing as a politics that has nothing to say about marriage, but we see the
00:06:03.680weakening of marriage through no-fault divorce. This is a very bad turn of events. Do you think
00:06:08.420society has gotten much better since the social and sexual revolutions of the 1960s? Or has it gotten
00:06:15.400a little bit worse? Maybe something's got better, something's got worse. Well, where are we now?
00:06:21.320Are we in a period of ascendancy or a period of decline? We know that marriage rates are at all-time
00:06:26.740lows. We know that divorce is pervasive. We know that birth rates have absolutely plummeted. We know
00:06:32.280that social stability is quite low. Just look at how they burned the country down, how the radical
00:06:37.780leftists burned the country down last year. A little stability wouldn't be such a bad thing.
00:06:43.460And amid this total overhaul of the institution of marriage, of the family,
00:06:49.660Meghan Markle is writing a children's book about, I kid you not, the importance of family.
00:06:55.840Meghan Markle, the biological weapon that the United States obviously engineered to destroy
00:07:03.260the British monarchy once and for all. That's for 1812, buddies. We're going to send you right in
00:07:07.760there and break up the most legally stable family in the world. The most, the family for whom their
00:07:17.260stability is the most important in the world because it has reverberations throughout the entire
00:07:22.320United Kingdom. Meghan Markle, who broke up that family, is now writing a book about the importance
00:07:29.500of family. The book is called The Bench. It's coming out on June 8th because we are shameless
00:07:37.360in this society and have no idea what we're talking about anymore. You'll hear a lot of people say,
00:07:43.560look, we support all different types of families now. Look, it's just what we've done. It's not that
00:07:50.380we've destroyed the family. We're just now, it's just family means a lot of different things. No,
00:07:55.240no. Family is a very stable thing. The family has a basis in nature, right? When a man and a woman love
00:08:03.560each other very much, they come together, they raise the kids. If you want to raise the kids in a
00:08:06.800flourishing way, in a way that is just and is best, most conducive to their flourishing, then you remain
00:08:15.720together in monogamy. You keep strong bonds throughout your whole family. That creates a strong society
00:08:22.540and then you can have a stable nation on top of that. And what we want is we want all the political
00:08:28.340goodies. We want all the nice things that come from marriage and family, but we don't want any of
00:08:33.200the work because contra to what we're hearing from Bill and Melinda Gates here, marriage is not just
00:08:42.640about how you grow in the phases of your feels, man, you know, it's not that. It's about making a
00:08:52.980commitment and recognizing your duty and obligation and fulfilling it before God and to a lesser degree,
00:09:01.340but still quite important before the political community. Speaking of children, did you know, did you know
00:09:10.520that your children are being exposed to vile, really sick sexual content on television and in the popular
00:09:18.520culture? Yeah. No, I'm not talking about all the crazy drag queen story hour stuff. No, I'm not, no, I'm not
00:09:24.200talking about that. I'm not talking about all the weird stuff that they see on the cartoon channels. I'm talking
00:09:29.060about Snow White. Oh yeah. So Disneyland is reopening. Disneyland after being closed for seven
00:09:35.380zillion days because of stupid COVID. And Disneyland has this Snow White ride that has, according to this
00:09:44.240columnist in San Francisco Gate, a big problem. Oh, this is, do you know what the problem is? You already
00:09:50.100know because you pay close attention to politics. You already know what ridiculous gripe this columnist is
00:09:56.360going to have. The new ride includes more, includes a more comprehensive storyline. And that's the
00:10:03.940problem. The new grand finale of the Snow White enchanted wish is the moment when the prince finds
00:10:09.560Snow White asleep under the queen's evil spell and gives her true love's kiss to release her from the
00:10:15.540enchantment. A kiss he gives her without her consent while she's asleep, which cannot possibly be true
00:10:25.460love if only one person knows that it's happening. Haven't we already agreed that consent in early
00:10:31.820Disney movies is a major issue? That teaching kids that kissing when it's not been established that both
00:10:37.640parties are willing to engage is not okay. Okay. I can't. It's, I do have to keep going on. I can't
00:10:44.700stop. It's hard to understand why the Disneyland of 2021, the current year, no less would choose to
00:10:51.120add a scene with such old fashioned ideas as Prince Charming kissing Snow White. It's rape.
00:11:00.100Did you know Snow White is about rape? According to people who do not understand anything about men and
00:11:07.980women, love, love, marriage, family, or anything else in society. As to the matter of consent,
00:11:16.540it just as a pure plot matter, Snow White is under this evil spell where she's just stuck there
00:11:24.700forever, right? I, I think that given the choice between remain permanently under an evil spell and
00:11:31.980get kissed by a hot guy, I'm pretty sure Snow White would choose the latter. I don't think that we need to,
00:11:37.680like, have a survey. I don't think we need scientific and philosophical investigations
00:11:42.260into this. It's better. The hot guy should kiss her. That's a better choice. But beyond that,
00:11:48.020what's really at the heart here is that in our liberal society, we have exalted consent to be
00:11:53.240not just a good, consent is a good, we have exalted it to be the only good. To the exclusion of virtue,
00:12:00.620which we're told we can't know, to the exclusion of the good, the true, and the beautiful, which we're
00:12:03.580told that we can't know anything about, only consent matters. And we have debased consent to,
00:12:08.380to involve a, a redefinition of liberty as licentiousness, an idea that we have the right
00:12:15.060to consent to do all sorts of evil things, even if they harm ourselves or harm society,
00:12:19.340because that's true liberty, according to the modern, ridiculous, liberal definition.
00:12:23.880Consent is all that matters. Marriage, family, raising children, building a life together,
00:12:29.180that doesn't matter. The moment that you withdraw your consent, you can rip up the contracts. Well,
00:12:34.160if you do that, you rip up the social contract to use the liberal description of society and more to
00:12:40.140it, you rip up society itself. Very, very perverse, ridiculous, risible, totally laughable idea.
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00:14:06.600We were just talking about romance and consent and marriage. Well,
00:14:12.200marriage is getting an overhaul even as you get into marriage. Tiffany is releasing their first ever
00:14:19.240men's engagement rings. So, you know, you know, typically for those, for those youths in the
00:14:27.360audience or those people who have remained single, who have been living under a rock. When you get
00:14:32.560married, what happens? The man goes out and buys a ring and he proposes marriage and the woman either
00:14:37.980accepts or smacks him across the face and says no. And then she puts the ring on and then you go get
00:14:43.100married. And then you can now, now both parties wear a wedding ring, though that wasn't always the
00:14:49.580case. But only the woman wears the engagement ring. Well, that's changing. I have had, so I've
00:14:56.240got to watch my words here. I've had some liberal friends of mine who are men engage in this process
00:15:01.720already. The men have worn an engagement ring because they say, well, if the woman wears an
00:15:07.940engagement ring, I should wear an engagement ring too because men and women are exactly the same and
00:15:12.180completely indistinguishable. So, of course, whatever the woman does, the man has to do.
00:15:15.700Whatever the man does, the woman has to do. Okay. I don't, don't agree with that approach. Don't
00:15:22.340agree with that anthropology, but I understand it. I understand the, the, the reasoning there.
00:15:28.020Now, Tiffany, by coming out and saying, here is a men's engagement ring, they're taking this beyond
00:15:33.700a sort of personal eccentricity and saying this could be a new social tradition. This could be a new
00:15:39.860aspect of proposing. Now, the, the men's engagement rings, it's called the Charles,
00:15:46.160Charles Tiffany, and it includes emerald cut and round diamonds up to five carats. So I don't,
00:15:51.820you'd have to be pretty blingy here. Who is this aimed at? For the straight fellas in the audience,
00:15:58.960would you wear the Charles Tiffany engagement ring? Probably not, right? But I don't think that,
00:16:06.240I don't think straight guys are the audience here. Maybe some feminist guys who think that men and
00:16:13.100women have to do exactly the same thing. But I think it's, it's probably the reason for this is
00:16:16.680because we have now from the Supreme Court redefined marriage to include not just monogamous
00:16:21.940unions of husbands and wives, but also monogamous unions of the same sex. And so because of this,
00:16:32.120if you, you know, if you're a man proposing to another man, it's a little like, who's going to
00:16:35.680do it? Which guy is going to do it? If you're now saying that we are going to redefine and expand
00:16:42.380the institution of marriage to include monogamous same sex unions, it does raise a lot of questions
00:16:46.880because sexual difference has always been important to marriage. It's always been at the heart of
00:16:52.480marriage. Even just to the basic question, who's going to propose the marriage and who's going to
00:16:56.900accept the marriage? You have to try to work that sort of thing out and who gets the ring and do we
00:17:00.960both get the ring? This is the one area I've pointed out on this show and other conservatives
00:17:05.820have pointed this out too, that the transgender ideology undermines the homosexual rights ideology.
00:17:14.620And it undermines them because what gay rights is very simple, right? We're born this way.
00:17:19.240Some boys like, some boys like girls, some boys like boys. And there's really nothing we can do to
00:17:23.720change that desire. So society should be more accepting of that. Okay. Totally understand that.
00:17:28.320And then the transgender ideology comes in and says, actually, there's no such thing as boys or
00:17:32.020girls and boys can become girls and girls can become boys and everything's mutable. Well, that so much
00:17:37.000for the born this way, so much for the, you can't change that so much for the orientation that undercuts
00:17:40.880it. But there is one area where the two link up and that is on the redefinition of marriage. Because
00:17:46.100if, if the argument for the redefinition of marriage, which you saw from the Supreme Court is
00:17:51.200that M plus W equals M plus M, then M has to equal W. They have to be indiscernible. They have to be
00:17:59.260exactly the same. And if that is the case, then you're going to see a lot more, uh, social rituals,
00:18:05.120such as the, the Tiffany men's engagement ring. You're going to see a social push to take away that
00:18:11.940which is particular and peculiar to men and that which is particular to women. It's all going to have
00:18:17.620to be the same, but anyone who's ever been in a marriage knows that it's not the same.
00:18:24.420I've got my cute little newborn kid at home. Could I nurture that kid? No, to a degree I can,
00:18:30.120I can play with them. I can kiss them. I can say, Hey buddy, you know, and I can have a nice time and
00:18:34.140I can even give them a bottle every now and again, but I cannot provide for that baby. What sweet little
00:18:40.500Alisa can provide for that baby because sweet little Alisa is a lady and I am a grunting knuckle dragging
00:18:47.600brute and the relationship of a baby of, of any person to his mother is different than the
00:18:53.980relationship to his father. And that's the way it is. And no amount of social engineering
00:18:57.880is ever going to change that. And by the way, for the, for the gay guys in the audience and ladies
00:19:04.840too, I got, you know, I don't want to exclude the ladies here. I have had many of my gay friends tell
00:19:11.320me that when they are in a relationship, the gender roles sort of come out there too. Some guy is a
00:19:17.240little more like the traditional guy. Some guy is a little more like the traditional girl in the way
00:19:21.420they interact, in the way they cook, in the way they whatever, because those things come from nature
00:19:27.780and then civilization has developed them. So of course there is a social aspect to our sex,
00:19:35.540just as there is a biological aspect, but those two things are connected. And in this culture,
00:19:41.240if we're going to just deny that entirely, then things are going to go a little bit kooky
00:19:45.920throughout all aspects of the society. And, and we can make ourselves feel better and say,
00:19:52.380this is all just, it's all just private. Michael, what do you care? What do you care? Getting back to
00:19:56.980the inciting incident here. What do you care if Bill and Melinda Gates get divorced? I care quite a lot.
00:20:02.820I care a lot if anybody gets divorced because that's people breaking their contract and their pledge,
00:20:08.280not just to one another and not even just to God. I suppose that's between the parties involved there,
00:20:14.180but they're breaking a pledge to me. They're breaking a pledge to society. They're breaking
00:20:18.960a pledge to their children. They're breaking a pledge to the whole culture that they will do their
00:20:26.420part. And I know it's a fallen world and these things happen. But the question is here, are we going
00:20:32.480to encourage that sort of thing or are we going to discourage that sort of thing?
00:20:36.220And the argument made not just by the left, but made by the right now as well, because the right
00:20:41.500has adopted the ridiculous libertine redefinition of the whole culture that the left has foisted upon
00:20:47.340us. This is, by the way, the topic of my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling
00:20:50.680Minds, available now, by the way, for pre-order. Because we've adopted that language, we don't have any
00:20:56.600philosophical tools at our disposal to argue for the conservation of culture. We can't do it.
00:21:04.620That's why we don't conserve anything. That's one of the reasons why we don't conserve anything.
00:21:09.280Private decisions have public consequences and vice versa. This is what you're hearing all the
00:21:15.680time about the vaccine. This is the central disagreement at the heart of the vaccine issue,
00:21:20.380the vaccine passports, the whole public health tyranny. To what degree does the public have the
00:21:27.420right to say something about your private decisions? To what extent are your private decisions
00:21:32.160public? Joe Biden has an important insight about this. He says, if you don't get the vaccine,
00:21:39.840we're going to die. You're putting people at risk of dying.
00:21:42.880I also want to thank the 105 million Americans of every background who are fully protected
00:21:48.740from one of the deadliest pandemics in our history. You know, there's a lot of misinformation out there,
00:21:55.120but there's one fact I want every American to know. People who are not fully vaccinated can still
00:22:01.720die every day from COVID-19. Look at the folks in your community have gotten vaccinated and are
00:22:09.360getting back to living their lives, their full lives. Look at the grandparents united with their
00:22:14.880grandchildren, friends getting together again. This is your choice. It's life and death.
00:22:20.840This is your choice. Life and death. There are people, he's, he actually made a true statement
00:22:28.260here. It's a rare fact for Joe Biden. There are people who don't have the vaccine, who are dying
00:22:35.020every day. And therefore, because of the fear of death, he's going to scare you into doing whatever
00:22:41.100he says. I'm not taking the arch libertarian position here that the government never has anything
00:22:49.140to say about vaccines. I'm not taking that. I'm, I'm also not taking the leftist position that you
00:22:54.740all need to get this, this vaccine immediately. I'm taking the prudential position that you should
00:23:00.500assess risk to yourself and society and make a reasonable decision. I guess that's, I guess that's
00:23:06.220the Joe Rogan position. And I know you're not allowed to take that anymore, but that to me seems to
00:23:12.900make a lot of sense. Prudence is a conservative virtue, even though we seem to have forgotten about it.
00:23:17.160But I'm going to go further. I think what lies at the heart of Joe Biden's threat here
00:23:20.200is not the fact that unvaccinated people are dying every day. It's the fact that
00:23:24.820people are always going to die every day because people are going to die because you can't avoid
00:23:30.080death because there are certain hard facts about this world that you are not going to escape. No
00:23:37.160matter, no matter whether you give your consent or not, you're probably not going to consent to die,
00:23:42.400but you're going to die anyway. Someday. We all are. This is a finite world. Okay. And the, the
00:23:49.200liberal modern society wants to deny that fact of death. And it gets people so terrified of it
00:23:55.060that they will give away all their rights and shut down the whole country for a year and a half
00:23:59.060because of a virus, because of a virus that, you know, it's not great, but it's not worse than many
00:24:05.740other pandemics that we've gone through. But they're willing to give it all away because of
00:24:09.320their terror of death and because of their shock and because of their delusion that they are totally
00:24:15.240100% in control of their own lives. They own their own lives. They can do whatever they want.
00:24:19.620They can, as long as that's consensual, they can do whatever they want. Darn it. No,
00:24:23.860you didn't choose to come into this world. You're probably not going to choose to come out of this
00:24:26.760world. A lot of things are going to happen to you in the meantime that are unjust. I think this has
00:24:30.560to do with a lot of the crazy leftist entitlement culture and the burning down of the country over the
00:24:35.660grievance politics is people don't recognize it. There is injustice in this world and you're going
00:24:39.880to have to deal with that. That's a fact of life. And demagogues such as Dr. Fauci and such as Joe
00:24:46.620Biden are exploiting that neurosis, that delusion, that refusal to, to recognize basic facts of reality
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00:27:43.020Joe Biden's case for getting the vaccine is that if you don't get the vaccine, you're likely to die.
00:28:03.180Basically, people are dying every day. You got to get it. Forget about your own risk assessment.
00:28:08.080Forget about prudence and your own faculties of reason. You got to get it. Okay. Okay.
00:28:12.580That's about as strong a pitch as you can possibly make. So, Mr. President, how do we get the vaccine?
00:28:21.200I'm going to repeat. We're going to make it easier than ever to get vaccinated.
00:28:24.760Visit vaccines.com or text to your zip code to 438829. 438829.
00:28:39.860I, uh, I'm just going to clear out my ear a little bit. Uh, can we, one more time, where, how do you get the, where do you get the vaccine?
00:28:50.800I'm going to repeat. We're going to make it easier than ever to get vaccinated.
00:28:54.480Visit vaccines.com.gov, vaccines.com or text to your, text your zip code to 438829. 438829.
00:29:09.600I want to be very careful here because this is a family program. Uh, so all I will say is that
00:29:17.800I am, I am less likely to get the vaccine after that pitch. That was not a very,
00:29:24.180not a very persuasive pitch from, uh, Joe Biden. Dr. Fauci, who is the leader of the,
00:29:30.220the coronavirus initiative here, right? He's the, he's the one leading the public health response.
00:29:36.040Finally, Dr. Fauci, it's been not just two weeks, not just two months. It's been a long,
00:29:44.380been a long time, pal. Can we, we can finally get back to normal, right? We let you,
00:29:49.740we let you drag this thing on about 28 or 29 times longer than you said it would take.
00:29:58.720Finally, we can go back to normal, right? We're at the end of the pandemic.
00:30:01.480We would hope by the time we get to the end of calendar year 2021 and the beginning of the first
00:30:08.760quarter of 2022, we'll be able to vaccinate children of any age. Before I let you go,
00:30:13.900Dr. Fauci, you and I are a major league of baseball fans. Uh, what inning are we in as far as this COVID
00:30:20.160pandemic is concerned? Well, you know, I, I, we're at least halfway through. I, I hope we're seeing,
00:30:26.680and, and I do believe, uh, uh, Wolf, I'm not trying to be overly, uh, enthusiastic about what's
00:30:32.920going on vis-a-vis the vaccine program, which is so successful, but we've really got to not declare
00:30:38.780victory prematurely. So we're in the late innings, but it's not over. That's the thing we really got
00:30:44.780to get people to appreciate. We're going in the right direction. We're seeing the light at the end
00:30:49.280of the tunnel, but now's not a time to declare victory. It's a time to get more and more people
00:30:54.780vaccinated. Just the way the president said today, we want to get to that goal. It's a doable goal.
00:31:00.680And I believe we'll get there. So you think the seventh, the eighth inning or late innings,
00:31:04.180what, what any of you're talking about? How about the bottom of the sixth? Try that one.
00:31:10.420I'll go with the bottom of the sixth. That's not too bad. Now, I don't think that Dr. Fauci has a ton
00:31:16.600of credibility on the virus because he has admitted that he has misled us. Remember in that first
00:31:24.080few weeks where he said, do not wear the masks, you stupid idiots. Again, I'm paraphrasing. Don't
00:31:31.760wear them. The masks do nothing, idiots. And then a few weeks later, he says, you have to wear the
00:31:37.240masks. And we all said, well, huh? What changed? And he said, oh, I wanted to make sure there was
00:31:43.180enough masks for all my friends in public health, but now there is. So it's cool. Wear the mask. You
00:31:48.580have to. And you think, well, Dr. Fauci, if you would be so deeply misleading and dishonest to us
00:31:55.040about that basic protective element early on, why should we trust you now? But so I don't think he
00:32:01.780has a ton of credibility on this, this virus, but I know he has no credibility on baseball because if
00:32:08.740you recall, he was chosen to throw the first pitch out at the Nats game some months ago and he
00:32:15.840dribbled the pitch. He just went like, what was it? Right down the first baseline. It was not,
00:32:20.820not great. And also, by the way, at that game, he wore the mask on the pitcher's mound when he was
00:32:25.720far away from everybody. And then when he got back up in the stands and he thought the TV cameras
00:32:29.860weren't on him, he was sitting next to friends of his, friends whom he doesn't live with, right?
00:32:33.660Friends who were not part of his household. And he took the mask down and he wasn't even eating.
00:32:36.840He was just hanging out. So not a ton of credibility, but he's going to hold his power.
00:32:42.160That's what this is about. Not two, not two weeks in, not two months in. We're now
00:32:48.180over, well over a year in. Dr. Fauci says we're going to be two years in and he's still not going
00:32:54.520to give up his power. Bottom of the sixth. How much more do you need to see?
00:33:01.460What else does he need to tell us before it is clear they're not going to give up this power?
00:33:06.420This was a power grab on behalf of the liberal state, which expresses itself through the bureaucracy
00:33:12.420and notably through the public health bureaucracy because public health justifies anything that
00:33:17.260the left wants to do. They're grabbing that power and they're going to force us into
00:33:24.500vaccine passports, which is effectively coercing the vaccine. They're going to force us into boosters.
00:33:31.360They're going to force us into more lockdown measures. They're going to maintain their stranglehold
00:33:35.440stranglehold on business, on church, on civil society, on voting, totally upended the voting
00:33:41.360system because of COVID. Remember now we have widespread mail-ins, even in states where that
00:33:45.440is unconstitutional like Pennsylvania. Now you've got drop boxes. Now election day becomes election
00:33:50.580year. I don't know, election week, election month. They just keep expanding it.
00:33:55.600That's what we're headed toward. And their argument, by the way, is, has, has a slight bit of truth to
00:34:04.020it, which is private decisions have public effect. And that's true. We, it is not enough for us to say
00:34:12.680my body, my choice, right? That is the argument that the left or that the right rather has made
00:34:17.280on matters of public health, on even vaccines, my body, my choice. They're just making the abortion
00:34:23.760argument, but with, with a little more persuasiveness, because it really does have
00:34:27.500to do with your body. You're not killing another human in there, but the decision of whether or not
00:34:32.280to get vaccinated in theory does affect everybody else. But then you have to get to the, I think,
00:34:38.940more persuasive conservative argument, which is the prudential argument. I want to talk about this
00:34:43.960vaccine. I want to talk about this virus. I want to talk about this country right now where lots and
00:34:49.480lots of people have been vaccinated, where lots and lots of people have antibodies, where the death
00:34:54.640rate is much lower than we feared in the beginning of this thing. I want to talk about those particulars
00:35:00.720because in those particulars, if you are a young, healthy person who's weighing risk, who's making a
00:35:06.720prudential judgment, you're going to have a very different conclusion than if you're living, I don't
00:35:11.900know, during the Black Plague, where some huge percentage of Europe is getting wiped out because
00:35:17.420of that pandemic. We're probably not even going to be allowed to get that kind of information
00:35:22.380because the blob, the liberal establishment, is teaming up with the private sector. Talk about
00:35:29.620breaking down distinctions between public and private. You've now got the government, the public
00:35:34.240sector, teaming up with big tech, the private sector, to censor the right, to censor conservatives.
00:35:41.900And to dominate the political order. Officials from the California Secretary of State Alex Padilla's
00:35:48.240office have now been exposed for complaining to social media companies about posts that they
00:35:56.840didn't like, that contained misinformation regarding the administration of California's
00:36:01.660elections, or that just made political points that they did not prefer. And now we have these
00:36:08.600records, thanks to Judicial Watch, which does fabulous work. They, through the California Public
00:36:12.760Records Act, got these records. The Secretary of State's office apparently combed through social
00:36:16.920media posts, flagging content from users with even very small followings, and even videos that had only
00:36:22.680a couple thousand views. In some cases, according to reports, for no other reason than because the
00:36:30.060officials disagreed with the opinions expressed. Build your own Facebook, Michael. Come on, you know
00:36:37.860that the squish conservatives, who are either extremely ignorant or useful idiots, you know,
00:36:45.080court jester conservatives whose sole purpose is to prop up the dominant liberal regime, they will say,
00:36:50.000no, Michael, Facebook's a private company. Twitter is a private company. YouTube, Google,
00:36:54.620Google is a private company. They control the flow of information around the public square,
00:36:58.380but they're a private company. And so you can't ever, and if they, look, if they want to consent
00:37:03.760to working on behalf of the liberal establishment through the Secretary of State of California's
00:37:09.060office, that's totally, that's their consent, that's their decision to make.
00:37:13.100These private matters are really starting to sound like political matters to me.
00:37:18.760Public matters, public and political mean the same thing. Maybe it's time for conservatives to
00:37:24.160exercise our, our personal choice in the political sphere to bring these people into line through the
00:37:34.380political process because what we're seeing right now is a totally rigged game and conservatives have
00:37:40.480given away that game by buying the left's stupid propaganda about personal choices. It's a private
00:37:47.400matter. It's a personal choice. Give me a break. Speaking of social media platforms, President Trump has one
00:37:52.160coming up. He does. It's not, people are kind of disappointed with Trump's social media platform
00:37:57.480because we were hoping he was going to make his own Google. He was going to make his own Facebook.
00:38:01.940He's a billionaire, president of the United States. He can command at least 70 million people
00:38:07.860to take what he's doing seriously. And instead what we got was effectively a blog. So he unveiled the
00:38:19.180new social media platform. It's just DonaldJTrump.com slash desk and it's just his own posts. So some
00:38:24.300people are really disappointed about this. I'm not. I actually think it's hilarious. I think it is
00:38:28.820peak Trump to say we're going to have this great new platform. Now that I've been deplatformed
00:38:33.320from Twitter and Facebook and social media, we're going to have a new platform. And then what's the
00:38:38.300platform? It's just his blog with giant buttons that say share to Twitter and Facebook and all over.
00:38:43.700It's just a way to troll the big tech companies and get back in there. It was not executed very well.
00:38:52.400So the only problem I have with, I don't have a problem that it's a modest sort of blog. I don't
00:38:56.180have a problem that it's only one way that it's just Trump communicating to us. My only problem is
00:39:01.780it's not optimized for maximum trollishness. Because if you try to share, if you go to the website right
00:39:09.200now and you try to share, you click the share button to Twitter, it doesn't work. It actually won't
00:39:12.820share. So then you got to click the link and then share it directly on Twitter, which is
00:39:16.060taking too many steps out. But then when you share the link, it's just the picture of Trump shows up
00:39:22.400and then the kind of boilerplate copy in the bottom of what President Trump has done. And then only in
00:39:27.720the headline of the post do you see the first few words of whatever pseudo tweet he has made, which is
00:39:34.200always very, very funny. So I just think if you're going to do, I like the idea, but you got to make it
00:39:38.840very, very easy to share and functional and you've got to make the whole post just a way to infiltrate
00:39:45.760social media. So instead of the picture of Trump, it should just be a picture of the text of the post.
00:39:50.880And instead of the boilerplate copy at the bottom, it should just be the text. It should just be all
00:39:54.480of the tweet so that Donald Trump can effectively tweet again and post on Facebook again. And then you
00:40:02.320force the big tech company's hand to ban any posts from this one website, which I think makes Trump
00:40:08.560look really great. And I think it shows you the, the real end game here of this censorship, which is
00:40:15.900any conservative who's actually going to make a point, they're going to have to, to shut them down.
00:40:20.520I think it would be good politically for Trump if he is serious about running in 2024. And by the way,
00:40:25.260during his conversation with Candace, sure sounded like he's serious. If he wants to do that,
00:40:29.900then he's, he's going to have to, he's going to have to ratchet up that trollishness.
00:40:35.980Why wouldn't Trump run in 2024? Look who he's running against. Joe Biden, I guess would run
00:40:43.340again. He hasn't said that he's going to step down. He actually probably needs to run again because if,
00:40:48.960if the, the end game here is to get Kamala in, I don't think Kamala can win on her own. She's very,
00:40:54.240very unlikable, even among Democrats. She was one of, if not the first Democrat out of the primary
00:40:59.520race in 2020. And I said, you'll remember, I said from the very beginning, watch Kamala. She's a
00:41:05.460clever politician. And when she got booted out of the race, everyone said, oh, Michael, you're an
00:41:09.040idiot. I can't believe you thought Kamala was going places. And she did. She did. That call was
00:41:13.140totally right, but she still is very unpopular. So probably what needs to happen is Biden needs to
00:41:17.840get reelected and then hand it over to Kamala. If Trump runs against Joe Biden, this is the kind of
00:41:25.640guy that he's up against. The last thing Americans with around, with the amount of wealth needs is
00:41:31.240another tax break. We need to make a choice to eliminate the loophole. Only the gains above for
00:41:37.540people, only the gains above people making $2 million a year, or excuse me, a couple. A rate of
00:41:44.300capital gains rate for people making more than a million dollars a year, which by the way, would
00:41:49.240affect three-tenths of one percent of all taxpayers. Three-tenths of one percent of the top
00:41:54.320one percent. And close another loophole, like the real estate investment loophole. The wealthy is
00:41:59.300simply paying the same rate on their wages and investment income that raises $40 billion a year
00:42:05.640for the next 10 years. The reason I'm bothering to do this is I keep hearing on the press, Biden's
00:42:11.240going to raise your taxes. Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
00:42:18.160penny in taxes. And we will not increase the deficit either. Unlike the last gigantic tax
00:42:24.700cut, which increased the deficit by $2 trillion. Wait, hold on. No, nobody making under $400,000
00:42:34.020a year will pay a single penny in taxes. I might need to rethink my political affiliation. That's
00:42:40.480pretty good. You don't, you don't have to pay anything because right now I'm paying almost half
00:42:44.740of my money away in taxes. But I don't have to, oh, that's, oh no, that's not what he meant. He,
00:42:49.940he meant that they won't pay any, what, any more or any, what is that? It's hard to translate from
00:42:55.940Biden into English because not only does it come out garbled because he's just exhausted, obviously,
00:43:01.600and passed his prime, but he also just doesn't know what he is talking about. More and more confusion.
00:43:09.780Re-election. But if Joe Biden runs for re-election, if Donald Trump runs for re-election,
00:43:19.880oh man, they're going to have some competition. No, I'm not talking about Kamala, DeSantis,
00:43:27.880Cruz, Holey, whoever, anybody who's going to run. I'm talking about the real competition.
00:43:32.840Can you smell what the rock is cooking? There is a part of young rock as if you're running for
00:43:40.040president in 2032. A lot of people are reading a lot of things into that. Well, let me take another
00:43:45.820drink of Terramana before I answer that one. It always helps with the answer. I have a goal and an
00:43:53.500interest and ambition to unite our country. If this is what the people want, then I will do that.
00:44:00.780And this goes back to me wrestling in flea markets and used car dealerships. And even in that,
00:44:08.380as small and as intimate and as rowdy as those crowds were, Willie, I still had my finger on the
00:44:14.040pulse of the people. And I always got an idea of what they wanted in that moment. So I say that to
00:44:19.840say like, if the time comes where there is a good amount of people who want to see that happen,
00:44:24.480then I'm going to consider it. How will you know if the people are asking you to take that step?
00:44:28.460I think you would do deep dives of polling and things like that. What the people want will lead
00:44:32.980and inform that decision. And if it is in fact what they want, then I'm going to take another
00:44:37.780drink of my Terramana and I'm going to say, okay, let's do it.
00:44:43.780Terramana, Terramana, Terramana. You got to give the guy credit for being an A-list salesman. He's
00:44:49.180pushing this tequila that he's using, which raises questions about, this tequila that he owns rather,
00:44:56.180it raises questions about whether or not he's serious about running. Is he just using the
00:45:01.260buzz of the president thing to sell tequila? He's got a big Terramana sign behind him. He opens up
00:45:06.800the answer talking about Terramana. He closes the answer talking about Terramana. So maybe this is
00:45:11.500what people said about Trump for years. They said, oh, he's just trying to sell his brand. He's trying
00:45:15.780to sell his neckties. He's trying to sell his memberships at his golf clubs. He's trying to sell
00:45:21.040as the apprentice, whatever. He's just pretending to run for president so that he can do this.
00:45:27.240I'm sure that the rock realizes, first of all, I'm sure he's paid attention to what Trump did
00:45:30.840and realizes that it is a good strategy and it can help you as a matter of business. But also the rock
00:45:37.420has floated this for years. He has been floating the idea of running for president for a very, very
00:45:42.440long time. And he has dipped his toes into politics for a while. He was a sort of a moderate. He was
00:45:47.080considered a moderate Republican. He endorsed Biden and Harris in 2020. So I don't really like
00:45:53.220the rock. I don't think I would vote for the rock. His politics, I don't think are my politics.
00:45:58.980But I also don't like his answer. I think this answer is everything wrong with politics.
00:46:08.680Would you run for president? Well, I'd just have to poll. I'd have to take a lot of polls.
00:46:13.700Would you run if the people want me to run? Okay. We hear that kind of silly jargon. There's
00:46:20.540silly propaganda, you know, from, from candidates a lot. I would only run if I were called on to do
00:46:27.100it and I would reluctantly accept fun. But, but the rock actually takes it further. He says, I would
00:46:31.080just poll and I would poll and I would poll. And then if more people wanted me to run than didn't
00:46:36.520want me to run, then I would run. That's not leadership. That's not what people want.
00:46:44.780That is actually bad politics. People don't vote for you because you just say you'll do whatever
00:46:52.220they want. People vote for you because you stand for something. I remember this. I remember this in
00:46:58.120middle school student government elections. You'd see some people get up there and seriously,
00:47:03.72011, 12 years old. They get up there and say, I'll do whatever you want me to do. Just please elect
00:47:08.060me. And, and the, the thinking of very shallow political thinkers is, well, if I just promise to
00:47:15.760give the people whatever they want, then they're more likely to vote for me. But actually I think
00:47:20.760they're less likely to vote for you then because it just shows that you don't stand for anything.
00:47:26.100You don't believe in anything. The rock's whole pitch, his whole political pitch is I'm a centrist.
00:47:30.640I'm a, I'm a, I'll just do whatever, whatever 50% plus one want to be done. That's what I'll do.
00:47:36.640Oh, so you don't stand for it. You're a big, tough guy. You're extremely charismatic. You're very good
00:47:40.820looking. You're very famous. You're very rich, but you don't stand for anything. Why on earth would I
00:47:46.860vote for you? I'd be more likely to vote perhaps for an honest Democrat because at least I know what
00:47:54.660I'm getting. I have no idea what I'm getting with the rock. The rock might end up being much
00:47:58.540further left because he's just going to go wherever the wind blows. Really, really bad pitch. Speaking
00:48:03.700of leadership, got to get to this. You know that there's this problem in the Republican leadership
00:48:09.100in the house. Namely, Liz Cheney is a member of leadership, but she hates Republicans. She clearly
00:48:16.160has disdain for her constituents. She voted for the second farcical impeachment of Donald Trump.
00:48:23.680Trump. She says that, she parrots Democrat talking points all the time about the big lie,
00:48:29.620which she says that if you in any way question the 2020 election, you're engaging in the big lie.
00:48:34.780This was a phrase popularized by Democrats. It refers to something coined by Adolf Hitler in
00:48:40.340Mein Kampf. And ironically, when Hitler uses the term the big lie in Mein Kampf, he's actually accusing
00:48:47.580the Jews of propagating a big lie to blame a certain German general for the loss in World War I. So
00:48:54.460ironically, though, the left is not aware of this. When they use this phrase, they're actually casting
00:49:01.680themselves as the Nazis in their own analogy, neither here nor there. Liz Cheney totally going
00:49:06.780along with this kind of rhetoric. And Kevin McCarthy has previously defended her. He's the actual,
00:49:12.520the number one Republican leader in the house. Well, apparently Kevin McCarthy is losing his
00:49:20.220patience with Liz Cheney. Do we have the clip? I think she's got real problems. I've had it with
00:49:28.240her. I've had it with her. It's, you know, I've lost confidence. Well, someone just has to bring
00:49:34.540emotion, but I assume that will probably take place. So this was reportedly in the crosstalk,
00:49:41.240Kevin McCarthy was on with Steve Doocy from Fox News. And what happens when you're on these shows,
00:49:48.140and I've been on Fox News many, many times, before the interview goes live on TV, you're just talking
00:49:53.280to people. You're talking to the audio engineers. Sometimes you're talking to the hosts. And that's
00:49:56.300supposed to be a private conversation. Well, since we're only hearing Kevin's side of it here,
00:50:01.740maybe someone in the room happened to be recording it. Maybe McCarthy himself was recording it.
00:50:06.760Who knows? But this private conversation is leaked out to the public. And that private view is probably
00:50:13.820going to have public effects. And Liz Cheney, thankfully, will hopefully be out of Republican
00:50:18.300leadership by the end of the month. But a good reminder, a nice little bow on the end to remind
00:50:23.880us that our private actions, our private thoughts, our private deeds have public effect and vice versa.
00:50:32.660We need to start thinking much more deeply about that. We need to ditch this shallow language of
00:50:37.820you do you, shallow language of total privacy to do whatever you want, no matter how vicious,
00:50:43.320no matter the public effect, if we want to actually conserve anything at all.
00:50:47.000I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.
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00:51:43.840A juror in the Derek Chauvin trial apparently lied his way onto the jury in order to, as he says,
00:51:47.840bring about social change. Also, Jill Biden pushes for universal free community college.
00:51:52.840A child was paddled with a wooden board by her teacher while her mother watched. And finally,
00:51:57.240I'll explain why anxiety isn't a real mental disorder. That'll be a popular segment. All of that
00:52:02.980and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.