Ep. 771 - Mutilating America
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Summary
In the first episode of 2020, Maggie Gyllenhanced our understanding of the coronavirus, the mysterious virus that infected millions of people with a new strain of HIV and spread around the world. What was the link between the virus and the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China? And who is the culprit?
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Okay, so the public health establishment denied the links between the coronavirus and the Wuhan
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Institute of Virology for a year. Okay, fine. And yes, the media and big tech totally covered up
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for them and castigated anyone who ever suggested a link as a dangerous conspiracy theorist. And
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sure, fine, leaked documents out of China do now show that the Wuhan lab very likely
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had a lot to do with the virus. But the intrepid journalists at CNN and the New York Times,
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they have found the culprit. Can you guess who the culprit is? I'll give you one, two. It's Trump.
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It's obviously the culprit is Trump. A lot of the discussion about the lab leak, I think,
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was clouded early on because there was the suggestion by some that it was somehow a Chinese
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weapon that caused this. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about a lab
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accident. But we've come a long way from people dismissing this as a conspiracy theory to a lot
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of people taking this seriously, Maggie. We have, John. And look, I do think it's important to
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remember that part of the issue when this was first being reported on and discussed
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back a few months after the pandemic had begun was that then-President Trump and Mike Pompeo,
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the Secretary of State, both suggested they had seen evidence that this was formed in a lab. And
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they also suggested it was not released on purpose. But they refused to release the evidence showing
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what it was. And so because of that, that made this instantly political. I think that it was,
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you know, example 1000 when the Trump administration learned that when you have burned your own
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credibility over and over again, people are not immediately going to believe you, especially in
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an election year. It's like that meme of that guy shooting the other guy. And he says,
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he says, why did you do this? Why did you, why did you do this, Trump? These radicals have
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mutilated our government. They're mutilating our young women, an increasing number of whom are coming
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to regret transgender therapy. We'll get into that. They're mutilating our educational institutions
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through critical race theory and mandatory porn workshops. We will try to detransition America.
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I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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My favorite comment yesterday from Deborah Gessner, who observes that Fauci says,
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we have never funded gain of function research. And Fauci also says, and this is why we had to do it.
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He does. He does that. A little tricky. Talks out of both sides of his mouth that Fauci,
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quarterly plan. That is thegreatcoursesplus.com slash Knowles. The argument here is that Donald Trump
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has squandered his credibility. And therefore, when he suggested, and when Mike Pompeo, the Secretary
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of State, suggested that there might be some link between the virus and the viral institute that was
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400 yards away from where it was allegedly discovered, that's why nobody believed them in
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the mainstream media. A lot of us believed him, and we talked about it for a long time, even beginning
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last year. But the mainstream media, because Trump just lied about so many things, 10 zillion lies that
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the New York Times covered, that Trump, he's such a liar. Where did he squander his credibility?
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Where is it? What's the lie? I guess the big lie they point to is that he said that his crowd sizes
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were like a thousand or so, a few thousand people larger than they were or something. Is that?
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Because by my count, Donald Trump, when he had a disagreement with the media,
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was right about virtually everything. And the media and the left, but I repeat myself,
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were wrong about virtually everything. He was right about the virus. He called, remember early
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on, he said, this virus is probably a little bit worse than an ordinary flu, so we're going to shut
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down travel from China. The media said, this is, actually Joe Biden himself said, this is hysterical
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xenophobia. And then turned out Trump was right about that. But then Trump also said, it's not as bad as
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now they are making it out to be. He was right about that too. He was right about the vaccine.
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Do you remember when Donald Trump was arguing with Chris Wallace and Joe Biden at that two-on-one
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presidential debate? When Trump said, yeah, we're going to get a vaccine within a month or two. We're
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going to get the vaccine very quickly. It's going to be ready to go by the end of the year. We're
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going to have people vaccinated by April. And they said, that's crazy, Donald. You've never,
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all of the experts and your own experts say that it won't happen. And he said, I don't know what
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they're telling you, but yeah, that's what's going to happen. He was right.
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The trade deals. Do you remember the trade deals? He's going to destroy the global economy. What
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happened? The economy went up, up, up, up, up. Peace in Israel. Do you remember that? Trump can't
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just deal with the Arab states. That's, oh, what an idiot. He's putting Jared Kushner and Avi Berkowitz
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in charge of Middle East peace. And what happens? Doubles the number of nations that recognize Israel,
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gives us relative peace in the Middle East. NATO. Oh no, he's going to abandon our NATO allies. Nope.
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They're just going to start paying more money like he said they would. Lots and lots of other things.
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I mean, and that barely scratches the surface, but I just, if you look at the facts, every big issue
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where Trump disagreed with the liberal establishment, just about every single one,
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he was right and they were wrong. He's got way, way more credibility than the libs do. And it's on,
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on this Wuhan virology Institute point as well. He said, yeah, I think it probably has something to do
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with the lab. The media say, absolutely. No, it doesn't. Now they got to fall in line. We're seeing
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this more and more each day. Scott Gottlieb, who was the former FDA commissioner under Trump
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has now come out. He said, there is growing circumstantial evidence that the lab had something
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to do with the virus. And he said this, not on Newsmax, not on OAN, not on the right wing media.
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Now we know that three of the people who were, who were sick based on this latest report were
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actually hospitalized. And the timing of that would put it, you know, sufficiently early that it could
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have triggered this epidemic. There's now more and more reporting and more and more analysis that
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probably the first cases occurred at some point in the sort of October, November timeframe. And so
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the timing of these infections would put it within, within that realm. I think the challenge right now
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is that the, uh, the side of the ledger that supports the thesis that this came from a zoonotic
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source from an animal source hasn't budged. And the side of the ledger that suggested this could
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have come out of a lab has been continuing to grow.
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So, so you got this evidence and, and Scott Gottlieb is trying to be very diplomatic here.
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And he's like, look, you know, there was evidence that it was from a, an animal source,
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just a totally natural source without any connection with the Wuhan Institute. But now the evidence that
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it's from the lab is beginning to grow. I think he's being a little too diplomatic here. Anybody with
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two brain cells to rub together could have deduced a year ago when the bat coronavirus escaped
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right next to the bat coronavirus lab that, huh, maybe the bat coronavirus lab has something to
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do with it. That's, it doesn't take a rocket science. It doesn't take an epidemiologist.
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Doesn't take a Dr. Fauci to come to that conclusion, but there was a lot of political pressure
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not to come to that conclusion. And by the way, they had a lot of intel even last year as
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Maggie Haberman was admitting on, on the news show that there was a lot of intel that Trump and
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Pompeo alluded to last year that the mainstream media simply chose to ignore. And Mike Pompeo,
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former secretary of state is now discussing this very intel on television. And he is pointing out
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a lot of other people in the public health sector had this intel as well.
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We spent a lot of time working on this problem set in January. We were able to declassify a whole
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lot of material that I knew about much earlier. I've made remarks over a year ago now in early May of
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2020 talking about this risk. And it was outrageous. It was outrageous to see scientists,
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even government, U.S. government scientists who were denying this when they surely must have seen
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the same information that I had seen. That includes certainly Dr. Fauci as well. We need to know what
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happened here. The Chinese Communist Party knows what happened here. They know who Patient Zero was.
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They know precisely where this began. These three individuals who became sick, the symptoms were
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consistent with what someone would get that would be symptomatic of if they had COVID-19, the Wuhan
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virus. We need to get to the bottom of this because this could happen again. They're still
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conducting research in these same laboratories today. It's being done in ways that were similar
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to what happened back over a year ago. This is dangerous. We could end up with something much
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like this, again, being foisted upon the world. The United States has a responsibility to demand that
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the Chinese Communist Party give us the things that they simply know, Dana and Bill. They know the answer to
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these things and they refuse to hand over this information. Well, who had the information and
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when? That's, you know, Mike Pompeo, also a bit diplomatic. He was the nation's top diplomat.
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He's sandwiching that in here. And he's discussing the virus and the connections. He's discussing the
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virus and the connections at the end. And in the middle, he says, Dr. Fauci had the same intel that
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I did. These public health geniuses had the same intel that I did, and they chose not to talk about it.
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I do not have a top secret security clearance, okay? I am not privy to this secret
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intel that all these guys were getting. And yet, I knew that there was a great likelihood that that
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Wuhan Institute had something to do with it. You're telling me that Dr. Fauci did not. Plus,
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Dr. Fauci had intelligence that we all are not privy to. And you're telling me that he did not.
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This guy who has lied to us, outright lied to us about pretty important things during this pandemic
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from the very beginning. He lied to us about his true views on the efficacy of masks.
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What else are they lying to you about? This, this is the thing that I think really
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separates the, the right, the true right-wingers. You know, not, I'm not talking about the squishy
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people who basically just exist to prop up the liberal establishment. I'm not talking about the,
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the ones who write op-eds in the Washington Post about how terrible Republicans are and that sort of
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thing. You know which ones I'm alluding to. The ones who think that drag queen story hour is a blessing
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of liberty. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the actual conservatives, the actual right
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wingers. The, the big thing that separates us from the libs, I think, is perspective, sure, ideology,
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whatever, sure. It's that the conservative has seen the dishonesty. The conservative, it's,
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it's that example. Drew uses this a lot. You're reading the newspaper and you say, okay, here's an
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article about Iran. I guess they're right. Okay. Here's an article about the economy. I guess they're
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right. Here's an article about the Yankees. Wait a second. I know something about the Yankees and this
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article's wrong. This isn't the truth. Oh, well, here's an article about foreign trade. I guess they're
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right. You think the one thing I know about, I can tell they're being dishonest here, but I guess I'm
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going to continue to believe them on other things. When the liberal establishment is this corrupt,
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they have such a losing track record. They keep getting things wrong and wrong and wrong,
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whether through incompetence or through dishonesty, intentional lies.
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If you recognize that, then you're just not going to fall for it. And you think,
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what else are they lying to me about? Maybe, sure, they're lying about some of the virus stuff. Yeah,
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they're lying about this, that, and the other thing. But there are even big lies. If I can borrow a
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phrase that's very popular right now, a big one, probably the biggest ideological delusion that's
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The big delusional ideology that is being pushed right now by the liberal establishment, it's not
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just by the blue haired radicals on the crazy college campus in the middle of nowhere. This is
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an ideology being pushed by the biggest corporations, the biggest tech platforms and, and the government
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itself. Transgenderism. It's not, don't forget, you've got major companies all waving the transgender
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flag. Did you know there's a transgender flag? Apparently there is. And this is everyone celebrating
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this sort of thing. The actress Ellen Page, who is now calling herself Elliot. But you know,
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I think I'm going to stop doing this. I think I'm going to stop indulging in the name changes
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because we, for a long time have set up, we're not going to indulge in the pronouns because I'm
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not going to call her him. You can't force me to lie. Some people are doing that though. Some people
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are going along with it or they're, they're just choosing not to use the pronouns or they're going
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to use the, the singular they as though, you know, we've got lots of demons inside of us and we are
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Legion or something. But we've said, okay, you know, we on the conservative side, we said, we're not
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going to go with the pronouns, but we will call them whatever name they want. If they, you know,
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anyone can change their name. That's perfectly fine. No, I don't think so.
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Caitlin is a girl's name. Caitlin's not a boy's name. So if I refer to Caitlin Jenner as him,
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but I continue to refer to him as Caitlin, I'm still kind of confusing the issue, aren't I?
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I don't know that you can just go along and change your name willy nilly like that.
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It's a little confusing because you've got George Eliot, one of the greatest female novelists of all
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time. And you've got Evelyn Waugh. It's not a lady, not Evelyn, you know, it's not a,
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not a gal. He's a guy. So I know, look, there's a little ambiguity with the names,
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a little more so than with the pronouns, but I think I'm going to have to go with Ellen Page.
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So Ellen Page posts this photo of herself topless. This photo would not be permitted
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for if any other woman did it, but because Ellen Page is pretending to be a man,
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she gets to post this picture and she looks much more like a boy. She's had breast mutilation.
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She's got some abs now. I don't know if that was surgical or if that's, you know, from lifting
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weights or something like that, from doing crunches. You can tell I don't really know exactly
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how these muscle groups are developed. Man, it's not my thing. Wearing men's swim trunks and saying,
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you know, look, I'm, I'm a boy now. Look, look how happy I am. Big smile on her face.
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A lot of women and girls and a lot of boys and men for that matter are now seeing this and saying
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how wonderful it is. I can choose to look like the other sex. I can really become the other sex
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if I suffer either from a psychological delusion that I am or from this impulse that I very much
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want to be this, or if it's just, I'm taken up in the social contagion that boys are girls and girls
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are boys. And I think that's cool. So, you know, if a girl goes through a tomboy phase when she's 12,
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all of a sudden she's going to mutilate her body in some ways that are irreversible.
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There is another side here, as you can probably tell from the way that I'm discussing this issue.
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There is another side here. There's a lot of regret going on and CBS News got to give them,
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got to give them credit where credit's due. 60 Minutes ran a special about transgender regret and
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the girls who regret looking like boys and the boys who regret looking like girls. In her early 20s,
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Grace Ladinsky-Smith was seriously depressed and developed gender dysphoria. She began searching
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for answers in transgender communities on the internet. And when I saw them being so happy and
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excited about doing this wonderful transformative process to really like become their true selves,
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it was like, have I considered that this could be my situation too? Grace says she found a gender
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therapist on the internet and told her, I'm thinking of transitioning. Because she was over 18 and didn't
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need parental consent, she says she merely signed an informed consent form at a clinic and got hormone
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shots. Just four months after she started testosterone, she says she was approved for a mastectomy,
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what's called top surgery, that she told us was traumatic. I started to have a really disturbing
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sense that like a part of my body was missing, almost a ghost limb feeling about being like,
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there's something that should be there. And the feeling really surprised me, but it was really hard
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to deny. And so she detransitioned by going off testosterone. You get the idea. This goes on and on.
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And I recommend you watch the whole thing. Very pretty girl going through a bad period where she
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was depressed. And then some perverts and, and psychos and, and idiots. I mean, to be, to be fair
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to them, some of these people might just be stupid, but I think a lot of them are just perverts and
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they're, they're preying on people's confusion. But some of them might just be totally ignorant
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and stupid. They take advantage of this. And they say, oh yeah, you want to mutilate yourself?
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You want to lop off perfectly healthy organs? Fine by me. Here you go.
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And by the way, it's not just children. You'll hear the, a lot of conservatives say, well, you know,
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look, whatever adults want to do, that's fine, but just don't do it to the kids. Well, she was an
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adult, right? So this, this woman was 18 years old. Do you think it's right that some pervert doctor
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was, was able to facilitate this depressed, troubled woman's decision to mutilate her own body,
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which she almost instantly came to regret and has now gone back a little bit,
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but has suffered irreversible damage. Do you think that's good? I don't.
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I think there are, you know, as there often are, I think there are probably three positions on this
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issue. The left's position is trans everybody, including and especially the kids, right? Drag
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queen story hour into schools. Let's confuse kids on their sex. Let's teach kids in preschool as
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they're doing in Brooklyn. That little boys can be little girls and let's get everybody on
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transgender ideology. Then there's the middle squish position, which a lot of self-styled
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conservatives hold, which is bad for kids. But if adults want to mutilate their bodies, totally fine.
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And then there's the actual conservative position, which is, I don't care if you're 18. I don't care
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if you're 80. You should not be able to do this. Doctors should not be mutilating perfectly healthy
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body parts. And people who are troubled and want to do this or believe that they have to do this to
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be their true selves are disturbed people and they need psychological help, but they don't need
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their bodies mutilated to make their problems worse. That's, those are the, those are the three
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positions. Pick, pick your choice. There, you know, the, the, the left authoritarian position
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and then the nice, wonderful, liberal, open-minded position like women such as this who are 18 years
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old should be able to mutilate themselves even if they're going to regret it terribly. And then there's
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the right wing authoritarian, they're going to call it authoritarian position that you shouldn't be
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able to mutilate perfectly healthy body parts and take advantage of disturbed people.
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Where do you fall in that issue? I think you can tell which side I fall on. It's horrible what
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we've done to these girls. And it's, it's obviously this is a, the topic of Abigail Schreier's book,
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Irreversible Damage, which I, I think I blurbed that book. I loved it so much in, in the advanced copy
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and then it became a big, a big seller. So I recommend you go out and read that one. This is not just one
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isolated case that CBS News is covering. This is happening a lot and it's happening increasingly.
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And for parents who don't know what to do, I, I understand how confused one would be,
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especially if your kid's going to public school where this insanity is being foisted on them
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constantly. And you've got a kid who is very confused about this. I understand it's a hard
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decision to, what do I do? What do I, you've got a family member who's going through this,
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but there's a dark side to this story that only very rarely comes out into public light. So
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well done to CBS for, for covering it at all. These are transparent lies to tell that pretty
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girl, that pretty 18 year old girl, you're actually a boy and you need to mutilate yourself. That is a,
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such a transparent, she's not a boy and she's, she wasn't a boy when she underwent the surgery and
00:21:51.920
she's still not a boy now that she recognizes that she's a woman. Probably has some resentment,
00:21:57.220
maybe not hopefully, you know, but I probably would have some resentment at a culture and at
00:22:01.320
these sicko doctors who would take advantage of me. The lies are so transparent. Obviously this one,
00:22:08.900
that a boy is a girl, the lies are even more transparent though. Jen Psaki is trying to convince
00:22:12.860
us of something even more preposterous. Jen Psaki is trying to convince us that Joe Biden is energetic.
00:22:20.460
What more can you tell us about the president's health regime? We hear he's lifting weights.
00:22:25.960
What sort of weights is he lifting? Does he have a personal trainer? And what happened to his
00:22:30.040
Peloton bike? Did he bring it to the, to the white house? I didn't know where this was going. Um,
00:22:35.120
but I'm intrigued by it. Um, I, I will say I have nothing to read out on the president's,
00:22:40.280
uh, private exercise regime. Uh, but I can tell you having traveled with him a fair amount,
00:22:46.380
um, sometimes he's hard to keep up with. Sometimes he's hard to keep, like when he goes wandering
00:22:50.760
off in the middle of the night and doesn't know where he is, I suppose that would be hard to keep up.
00:22:53.820
But I don't think that during the usual course of the day, he's particularly hard
00:22:57.620
to keep up with. Joe, do you remember during the campaign, Joe Biden would be, he'd be walking out
00:23:05.220
of an office. There's a video of this. He's walking out of an office and you've got one of his staffers
00:23:09.340
holding him by the arm, like you would hold an elderly relative and say, okay, over here. And the
00:23:13.320
reporters are saying, Hey, Mr. Biden, Mr. Biden. I said, no questions, no questions, please. I guess
00:23:18.560
Joe wasn't having a good day. They'll call a lid on campaign events at what? Like one 30 in the
00:23:23.480
afternoon. No, he's not. Give me a break. I get it. I know that press secretaries have to spin,
00:23:31.200
but you cannot, you can convince me of a lot of things that you cannot convince me
00:23:35.880
that Joe Biden is energetic. If they're lying to you about that, what else are they lying to you about?
00:23:41.960
If they're lying to you about the origins of the virus, what else are they lying to you about?
00:23:46.120
If they're lying to you about when the vaccine's going to come up, what else are they lying to you
00:23:49.800
about? If they're lying to you about boys being girls and girls being boys, what else are they
00:23:53.120
lying to you about? If you want to break through the lies, I think you should check out my friend
00:23:57.240
Liz Wheeler's new show. You know, Liz Wheeler, Liz Wheeler had a popular TV show. Then she went away.
00:24:04.160
She disappeared. Where'd she go? I knew where she went, but I'm not sure everyone else did. She had a
00:24:08.040
baby and took care of that baby and then had the baby come in. Somehow she's like in fighting
00:24:12.660
form all the way again. And Liz Wheeler is launching the Liz Wheeler show. Episode one drops today. You
00:24:19.060
can get it all over the podcast apps and you can get it on her YouTube channel. So go check that out.
00:24:23.300
Also, I sat down with Liz. We talked about a whole wide range of things from Dr. Fauci and the masks
00:24:30.080
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00:24:34.020
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00:25:38.220
Jen Psaki says that Joe Biden is sometimes he's tough to keep up with. Oh man, he's so energetic.
00:25:45.960
Judge for yourself. Coincidentally, Joe Biden just gave a commencement speech,
00:25:54.180
the first commencement speech of his presidency at the Coast Guard Academy. So he was talking to these
00:25:59.000
young cadets and coincidentally, Ronald Reagan also gave a speech to the Coast Guard Academy.
00:26:05.740
Ronald Reagan, the oldest president in American history up until that point, then beat out by
00:26:12.700
Trump and then beat out by Joe Biden. Listen to the two speeches. Tell me which one seems more
00:26:19.100
energetic. My Coast Guard aides have been excellent. One of them taught me that, and I quote,
00:26:25.620
the Coast Guard is that hard nucleus about which the Navy forms in time of war.
00:26:34.740
I can only assume that you will enjoy educating your family about how the Coast Guard is, quote,
00:26:42.440
the hard nucleus around the Navy forms in times of war. You are quite, you're a really dull class.
00:26:50.900
Oh, no. Look, Ronald Reagan is one of the great orators in American history, and Joe Biden cannot
00:27:00.500
string a sentence together. But Joe Biden used to be able to string a sentence together. This is not
00:27:04.940
just making fun of old Joe. He's just not talented at this. Joe Biden has a lot of deficiencies. He's
00:27:11.300
dishonest and he's not particularly intelligent, but he was always a good talker. The guy always had the
00:27:15.140
gift of gab. He was a smiling, simpering, back-slapping politician. That's, that's all he
00:27:20.440
did. And if you look at clips of him from five, 10 years ago, he was speaking just fine. But he's
00:27:25.340
slowed down. He's obviously losing something. Probably not too difficult to keep up. The only
00:27:30.780
way he's difficult to keep up with is people have no idea what he's saying. He's a U and the marmy and
00:27:35.120
the small nucleus and corn, corn. What does that mean? You're a dull class. I will say one nice
00:27:45.520
thing about Joe Biden. Joe Biden, I have to, I want to be fair. I want to be a real journalist,
00:27:50.400
unlike the ones on cable news, CNN and all those places. Joe Biden is reportedly dropping student loan
00:27:57.180
forgiveness, which is, this is a promise he made during the campaign. He said that he was going to
00:28:02.040
forgive certain student loans. Well, the budget is here and four months into his term, people still
00:28:08.440
want Biden to forgive $10,000 in federal student loans for every borrower. And according to Yahoo
00:28:14.240
Finance, probably not going to happen. So that's good. This is going to be used as evidence among
00:28:19.480
squishes that Joe Biden is not as radical as he said he would be. This is a very small, minor win
00:28:25.900
for conservatives in an overall radical agenda, the most radical agenda ever. So yes, that's good. I'm
00:28:31.940
glad that Joe Biden won't be forgiving 10 G's of student loan debt. This would have been very hard
00:28:36.000
for him to do because even though the left wants it, especially the more affluent, radical, whiter
00:28:43.340
Democrat base really was into this. But the fact is a relatively small number of people graduate from
00:28:51.680
college and have these sorts of student loans. So you would, you would have a situation where you'd have
00:28:57.700
people who don't go to college subsidizing these relatively affluent people who do go to college.
00:29:02.960
It's just a political loser for Biden. So he's going to drop that, but he's going to be pushing
00:29:06.360
through lots of radical agenda items. We've already seen that. We've seen a hint at even crazier things
00:29:11.480
like court packing, adding new states, totally upending, federalizing elections. So minor win
00:29:16.860
overall, but, but as a rule, the, the administration is the most radical one we've ever seen. How do we
00:29:22.960
fight back against this? Well, governor Ron DeSantis is showing us one way to do it. Ron DeSantis
00:29:28.920
just signed an anti big tech bill. I love this. The anti big tech bill does three things in particular.
00:29:39.060
Says that all Floridians who are treated unfairly by big tech companies will have the right to sue
00:29:43.780
the companies that violate the law and win monetary damages. So it safeguards certain rights of Floridians
00:29:51.680
by requiring social media companies to be transparent about how they're moderating content. Right now it's
00:29:56.640
very opaque. They do not publish the rules and very often they violate their own rules to give users
00:30:01.460
proper notice if they're going to change the rules and it's going to protect, prevent big tech
00:30:05.420
bureaucrats from moving the goalposts to silence viewpoints that they don't like, which really means
00:30:09.700
conservatives. Okay. That's good. I like that. Number two, the attorney general of Florida can bring
00:30:14.420
action against big tech companies that violate the law. That's good. They'll be using Florida's unfair and
00:30:20.180
deceptive trade practices act. That's really good. If they're found to have violated antitrust law,
00:30:24.460
they'll be restricted from contracting with any public entities. So they're going to break up a
00:30:28.160
little bit the relationship between big tech and the government. And big tech is prohibited from
00:30:32.800
deplatforming Floridian political candidates. So now you see politicians definitely going to start
00:30:37.640
protecting themselves. The Florida election commission will impose fines of a quarter million dollars
00:30:42.520
per day on any social media company that deplatforms any candidate for statewide office
00:30:48.360
offices and 25 grand per day for deplatforming candidates for non-statewide offices.
00:30:54.120
So obviously, look, any social media user can just block candidates or not follow candidates that
00:30:59.520
they don't want to see. But that is a right in DeSantis' view that belongs to the citizens.
00:31:05.180
I like this. I'm glad that they're doing this. There are going to be, as usual, three positions on
00:31:11.520
this. The left is going to hate it because the left uses the big tech companies to enforce their
00:31:16.860
political agenda without democratic accountability. Right? The left can rely on these private
00:31:21.540
companies and can rely on the rights, you know, decades long shilling for private companies
00:31:27.340
to enforce their political agenda without having to go through usual political democratic means.
00:31:32.800
Okay. That's the left's view. Then there's the squish moderate view, which is the, well,
00:31:36.520
build your own Twitter, build your own Facebook. This is wrong. We need to, there's nothing more
00:31:42.180
conservative than letting hipster Rasputin in Silicon Valley silence half of the country.
00:31:48.080
That's just democracy. Oh no. James Madison would be furious that we're not letting Mark Zuckerberg
00:31:53.840
control our politics or something, right? That's, you can tell my view of, of that particular opinion.
00:32:00.060
Then there's the conservative view, which is use the state to put pressure on these private companies
00:32:06.680
to stop them from controlling and dominating our politics. I know some conservatives are going to be
00:32:11.360
uncomfortable with that because they've imbibed this pseudo squishy libertarian bumper sticker
00:32:17.840
Bush era slogan airing, but there's nothing conservative about letting hipster Rasputin run
00:32:23.020
our public discourse. Okay. Nothing conservative about that at all. It is good. It is positively good
00:32:29.240
and conservative to use the enforcement arm of the state wisely. We're not anarchists. I know that if
00:32:36.660
you listen to some of the ridiculous propaganda from the squish wing of the GOP over the last 20
00:32:41.260
years, you would think that, that Republicans are anarchists, that we don't think it's ever
00:32:45.260
legitimate for the government to do anything because we want small government. According to
00:32:49.480
that, we don't want small government. We want limited government. We want government to stay
00:32:52.560
within its limits. We want, but we want government to do the things it's supposed to do. And one of
00:32:56.780
those things is to prevent zillionaire oligarchs in the most radical parts of the country from
00:33:01.680
controlling our entire political system. So good on DeSantis. Glad that he's signing this bill.
00:33:06.080
He's not stopping there though, baby. No way. Ron has his eyes, I think, on a big political prize.
00:33:11.560
So he's doing a lot as governor. I'm glad to see that. Incentives are obviously aligned.
00:33:15.720
Ron DeSantis is going after critical race theory. He's trying to boot it out of Florida classrooms.
00:33:21.260
You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. And, uh, you know, you can rename. So what we're
00:33:27.980
doing, the department of the Florida board of education is meeting, um, and they are addressing this.
00:33:34.140
It's offensive to the taxpayer that they would be asked to fund critical race theory, that they
00:33:40.140
would be asked to fund teaching kids to hate their country and to hate each other. It's also based on
00:33:47.540
false history. When they try to look back and, and, and denigrate the founding fathers, denigrate
00:33:54.320
the American revolution, doing all these different things that even very liberal historians say
00:34:00.720
is not supported by the facts. And so I think what we need is we need the constitution back in
00:34:07.100
classrooms. We need to make sure civics is a priority, but it needs to be taught accurately.
00:34:12.500
It needs to be taught in a fact-based way, not an ideological base way. And we are, if we have to
00:34:19.420
play whack-a-mole all over the state, stopping this critical race theory, we will do it. We'll be
00:34:25.420
taking action. Don't you worry. All right. Love it. I, this is a very conservative perspective.
00:34:30.340
What are the three views on this? The liberal view, the left-wing view rather, is the one that
00:34:34.560
we need to indoctrinate kids to hate their country. Basically, or they say the country's evil. We've got
00:34:38.780
to teach them that the country's evil. We've got to teach them that whiteness is evil and needs to
00:34:42.320
be abolished. And this, we got to put this stuff in the classrooms. It's got to be mandatory.
00:34:45.800
The squish view, well, maybe we should just have different perspectives. And so in one class,
00:34:50.160
they teach you to hate your country. And then in the other class, they teach you,
00:34:52.860
maybe you don't hate your country so much. And that'd be cool. And then there's the conservative
00:34:56.000
view, which is this stuff is poison. This stuff undermines education. There is no real such thing
00:35:02.580
as academic freedom. It's never existed in practice. In the words of Bill Buckley, launching
00:35:07.040
the conservative movement after World War II, he said it was a hoax and a superstition. Don't fall for
00:35:11.820
it. There's a thought that undermines thought. And that's the only thought that ought to be stopped
00:35:15.540
to borrow an idea from Chesterton. So you got to kick it out. You can't just expand the curriculum
00:35:21.720
forever. There's only so many weeks in the semester. There's only so, only so many books
00:35:25.620
you can read. If you're reading Ibram Kendi, you're not reading a good book. If you're reading
00:35:29.660
Robin DiAngelo, you are missing out on reading a worthwhile book that will teach you something.
00:35:33.920
So boot it out, ban them, censor them, cancel them, get them out of there. That is the conservative
00:35:38.440
point of view, which I expound upon in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words,
00:35:42.120
Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order. Critical race theory is not the only crazy thing
00:35:47.260
that's being taught in schools. There's critical race theory, don't forget. It's just one derivation
00:35:52.140
of critical theory, which is actually just one major, but only one component of the politically
00:35:57.620
correct project. But there are a lot of other crazy things being taught in schools. Right now,
00:36:02.860
students attending the Columbia Grammar and Preparatory School in Manhattan, this is a very
00:36:07.320
expensive school. I think it costs just shy of 50 G's a year to attend. They are being forced
00:36:15.340
to take an explicit class on porn without parental consent. Would be bad enough to force them to take
00:36:24.320
the class on porn. They're not even telling the parents, echoing sorts of things we've heard a lot
00:36:28.980
this year, where radical educators will say, hey, be careful. The problem with Zoom class is the parents
00:36:36.060
will know what's being taught. You got to be very careful. Don't you think the parents maybe should
00:36:40.480
know what's being taught? No, it's very bad, very bad for their education. So at this school,
00:36:44.820
they were teaching a very explicit porn class. And I'm not just saying like the birds and the bees
00:36:48.820
and look at this and look at this flesh mashing up against this flesh. I'm talking about like very,
00:36:53.320
I'm not going to say it on the show. This is a family program, but like really graphic, gross
00:36:59.140
stuff. The class involved a slideshow and a lecture by an instructor, which included lots of raunchy
00:37:04.860
images, lots of presentations on the most lurid porn genres and only fans, which is the democratization
00:37:10.540
of porn. And if you oppose this sort of thing, you will be called closed minded. Oh, come on.
00:37:16.100
You're just a prude. You're just, you're a prude. Come on. That's fine. What could go wrong with porn?
00:37:21.720
Well, we're hearing what goes wrong with porn. How many people write into this show? I've read
00:37:25.780
them in the mailbag. People write in all the time and say, we got to do something about porn. This is
00:37:30.060
really bad stuff. Do you know who's writing? It's not the old fuddy duddies writing in. It's not the
00:37:34.560
boomers. The boomers seem to be the ones who are most fine with porn. They say, oh, it's not a big deal.
00:37:39.300
They tend to fall a little more in that squish libertarian camp. Oh, come on. It's not, come
00:37:44.720
on. Looking at porn, that's as American as apple pie. It's protected by the first amendment. It's
00:37:48.980
not a big deal. But the people who write into me and say, this is a big deal are the young men who
00:37:53.560
get hooked on this stuff. I think the median age is something like 11, according to surveys. So they
00:37:59.860
get hooked on this stuff before they can know anything about it. It ruins their lives. It messes up
00:38:04.260
their relationships. It hurts women. Obviously the industry hurts women, but just even the kind
00:38:09.220
of vision of sex that it presents is very degrading toward women, messes up people's relationships,
00:38:14.640
messes, there's a epidemic of young men who, who have ED because they're hooked on porn.
00:38:22.240
They're, and it's not, you're used to just read about these stories in Japan. Apparently this has
00:38:25.880
come to the West as well. It's really, really bad stuff. Why would that be taught in schools? Oh,
00:38:31.700
come on, keep an open mind. Obviously we used to know this in this country, but now we've forgotten
00:38:39.160
it. Liberty and licentiousness are not the same thing. They're opposite things. If you arouse
00:38:43.320
people's vices and base passions, you're going to undermine their true liberty. Kick it out. Fire
00:38:48.640
teachers who push this. Not, don't just vote with your dollars. Vote with your politics. Use your
00:38:54.760
government. Get this stuff. Take a lesson from DeSantis. DeSantis knows what's up. Pay attention to this
00:39:00.320
stuff and kick it out. Porn has become, in a certain sense, it's become part of the liturgy of,
00:39:06.460
of liberalism. But there's, and I won't get into too graphic detail of what these liturgical practices
00:39:12.560
look like, but it really has sort of become part of it. It is something that one enacts. It is
00:39:17.860
considered good. Do you remember at the start of COVID when people were told they couldn't see one
00:39:22.240
another? The New York City Health Department encouraged people to, how do I put this, to use Woody
00:39:28.740
Allen's term, to have sex with someone you love, you know, alone in a room. And this was being
00:39:34.480
encouraged. This is a good thing. It's good for your health. Blow off a little steam. I've heard
00:39:39.100
this described that in, in historically speaking, our views of the mind tend to map onto our views of
00:39:47.800
technology. So when the printing press was big, we had this view that what was being imprinted on your
00:39:53.960
mind, that's, that's going to form your mind. To some degree, that's true. When the steam engine was
00:39:58.600
the big technology, we were told, you had Freud, right? You had this idea that you have to, you
00:40:02.280
have to stop repressing things. You need to let off a little bit of steam, right? And to a lesser
00:40:07.040
degree, that's not quite true. Now today, our view of the mind is that the mind is like a computer
00:40:11.540
because the computer is the main technology. So you should be able to upload things and download
00:40:14.840
things and also upgrade your, your mind or something like that. Okay. I, I understand all these
00:40:22.240
various theories of the mind. When you blow off a little steam with something like porn, you know,
00:40:27.500
if you get, when you forget even just porn for a second with any kind of vice, if you think that
00:40:31.480
if you commit a vice, that's going to blow off a little steam, that's not really how it works.
00:40:36.460
The more vice you commit, the more you're going to commit, the more virtue you practice,
00:40:39.620
the more you're going to practice. That's the way it works. We've known this since good old
00:40:42.080
uncle Aristotle, but we seem to have forgotten it. The purpose of education, liberal education is to
00:40:46.500
train yourself in that liberty. So do it. Any education that undermines that is the sort of thing you got
00:40:51.600
a boot out of the classroom. Speaking of leftist liturgical practices, Mayor Bill de Blasio,
00:40:58.860
it says he's going to kneel during an event in Harlem to mark the one year anniversary of George
00:41:04.420
Floyd's death. He's going to kneel for nine minutes and 29 seconds, which is the amount of time that the
00:41:10.500
police officer, Derek Chauvin was kneeling on George Floyd's neck and back. And he's going to kneel
00:41:15.660
and that's, he's going to do it at the event hosted by race hustling extortionist Al Sharpton
00:41:20.480
and his national action shakedown network. And, and this is going to call for the passage of some
00:41:26.480
new George Floyd bill. First of all, it seems pretty bizarre to honor George Floyd by reenacting
00:41:36.180
what his ostensible murderer did to kill him. Isn't that weird? Like he would never, if you were to,
00:41:43.280
the guy were, were murdered by in a shooting, would you honor him by going to the shooting range and
00:41:50.160
just pew, pew, pew, or, or acting that out with your hand, pew, pew, pew. And now I'm honoring him.
00:41:53.780
No, that's very strange. Uh, but moreover, it's also just absolutely disgusting that this absolutely
00:42:00.560
sensationalized event where that involved the death of a career criminal, uh, who was actively resisting
00:42:07.180
arrest and committing crimes as he was arrested. Not to say that maybe the cop was using excess force,
00:42:12.160
but I think we heard during that trial that it didn't seem like he was necessarily using excessive
00:42:16.440
force. He was following certain protocols, but maybe not others. And anyway, it was complicated
00:42:19.840
and the jury seems to have been compromised as well. And you had political leaders on the left
00:42:24.580
putting a lot of pressure on the, on the jury to convict him of murder, which the, even the judge
00:42:29.260
himself said is probably going to help you on appeal all to say it's a complicated story. It's disgusting
00:42:33.900
that we have got political leaders honoring this kind of person. We went through yesterday on the show
00:42:41.180
how we're, we're told that there's a, uh, an epidemic of anti-black white supremacist hate
00:42:48.340
crime in this country. And it's just not true. You look at the statistics, black people are much
00:42:52.360
more likely to commit hate crimes than white people are much more likely as a, as a percentage of the,
00:42:58.480
as a, you know, relative to their proportion in the population. But you just don't hear about those
00:43:03.240
stories. I had a liberal, liberal friend asked me, well, why, Michael, why do we always see these
00:43:06.760
police shootings? Because the media want to sensationalize them to create a, a racially
00:43:11.160
divisive narrative. That's, that's obviously why. And that's what's going on right now. It's
00:43:14.680
disgusting stuff. But even beyond that, just look at the action. De Blasio is going to kneel down for
00:43:20.080
the nine minutes. This is a perfectly natural human longing. This is a religious ritual. I go kneel down
00:43:26.860
on Sundays when I'm at mass and I kneel down to, in, in the memorial sacrifice of, of a death,
00:43:35.220
of a redemptive death, the redemptive death of redeemed mankind of Christ on the cross. That's a,
00:43:39.920
that's a liturgy, that's a religious ritual that I'm doing. And all people have religious rituals.
00:43:44.740
Moreover, they must have religious rituals because man is a fundamentally religious being.
00:43:50.240
And when you recognize that you're engaging in religious liturgy,
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you can think about it a little more clearly. You can apply more rigor and logic to,
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and systematic thought. When you're completely unaware of it, as the left is, as, as Bill de
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Blasio is, you get into some really kooky stuff, some really superstitious stuff. Speaking of leftist
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rituals, AOC, AOC, another, another one of the goddesses in the pantheon of modern leftism,
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another icon and quasi-religious figure, depending on who you're talking to. She is opening up about
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how ever since the January 6th insurrection, she has been going through therapy. She's had a very
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difficult time. She still has not recovered from that trauma. After the 6th, I took some time and
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it was really Ayanna Pressley when I explained to her what had happened to me, like the day of,
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because I ran to her office and she was like, you need to recognize trauma and that this is something
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that you went through, but we're all going through. And, and it's really important to pause after that
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because that's how you process it. And I feel like I learned this the hard way after my father had
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passed away when I was a teenager. So that happened to me at a young age and I socked it away and I,
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I had to live with that for years. So you're doing therapy? Yeah. Oh yeah. I, I'm doing therapy,
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but also I've just slowed down. I think the Trump administration had a lot of us, especially Latino
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communities in a very reactive mode. I have no doubt that AOC, uh, endured suffering as a child,
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as a teenager when her father died. Coincidentally, it is very strange parallels between my life and
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hers because we grew up in the towns right next to each other at, at exactly the same time. And I,
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I also lost a parent when I was a teenager and it's a very difficult thing. I, I do not in any way
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minimize the trauma and suffering of that. You like to think that over time heals all wounds and
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over time you can get over that and go on, move on and live your life. I hope, so I hope she can do
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that. I've no doubt that's a real trauma. I don't think that January 6th was a real trauma for her
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because she lied about it. She, or I'm sorry, let me be more specific. She exaggerated it.
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She, you can't say she lied because all she ever talked about was her feelings. She said,
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I felt as though I was about to be killed. I felt as though my life was at risk. So sure,
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I guess that's your feelings. I can't, I can't, I can't disagree with what you felt subjectively,
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but she never was at risk of dying. She wasn't even in the Capitol that day. She was across the
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street or rather down the street. It was a bit of a walk away. She was in her office building and
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no one busted in there. It was actually a cop who came in to protect her and she's milked this for
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all it's worth. And she says, I'm, I'm just in the trauma. I'm so broken. I've had to slow down.
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I'm in the therapy for this. I can't, it's hard to process and I can't, it's really traumatic.
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Like we are exalting weakness and, and brokenness in this leftist culture. We are exalting these
00:46:59.480
things. We are actually trying to find ways to claim that we are broken, hurt, aggrieved,
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disordered, unstable. It's, it's got cachet. It's got social currency. If you are really that messed
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up, if you're really that shaken up and you can't handle it, you should not be in government. You
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should not be in political leadership. You can't, you got to be tough. It's hard, but you got to be
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tough. You got to move on. You got to take chin up, stiff upper lip and move on. No matter what,
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look, everybody goes through traumas. Everybody goes through suffering. Sometimes it's real like
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AOC had when she was a teenager. Sometimes it's contrived, like she exaggerated in her office
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building on January 6th. But whatever it is, maybe she felt, maybe she felt terrible on January. I don't
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know, got chin up. You got to cut this out. We've got to stop mutilating ourselves ideologically,
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philosophically, physically. We've got to stop mutilating ourselves and taking things that are
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relatively healthy and making them weaker and, and having social currency for grievance and all
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trying to grab grievance and weakness. We've got to get strong. If you're not going to be strong,
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you're not going to have a flourishing country. You're going to be mutilating America. I'm Michael
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