The Michael Knowles Show - June 17, 2021


Ep. 787 - The Real Threat


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

175.12593

Word Count

8,634

Sentence Count

670

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin have their first sit down since Joe took office, and the VP has a clear message for the Russian President: If you're going to attack our critical infrastructure, you better make sure you only attack some of it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin met yesterday in Geneva for their first sit-down
00:00:06.040 since Joe took office. And after years of Democrats attacking President Trump for
00:00:11.220 allegedly going too easy on Russia, Joe Biden really let Putin have a piece of his mind.
00:00:17.100 Yeah, that's right. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Joe had a clear message for Putin.
00:00:23.000 If you're going to attack our critical infrastructure,
00:00:26.620 you better make sure you only attack some of it.
00:00:29.480 Another area we spent a great deal of time on was cyber and cybersecurity. I talked about the
00:00:36.620 proposition that certain critical infrastructure should be off limits to attack, period, by cyber
00:00:42.680 or any other means. I gave them a list. If I'm not mistaken, I don't have it in front of me, 16
00:00:47.780 specific entities, 16 defined as critical infrastructure under U.S. policy.
00:00:54.360 Yeah. Number 17, you can blow that thing to smithereens. By those 16, no way. Joe
00:01:00.120 actually went harder at a CNN reporter during this trip than he did at Putin. Because according to our
00:01:06.460 prevailing culture, the U.S. Congress, the social media, Victoria's Secret, it's Victoria's Secret,
00:01:12.560 the real threats we face don't come from our adversaries abroad. They come from racism,
00:01:17.540 sexism, and fat phobia. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:23.420 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Trucker Pete, who says,
00:01:35.820 give nothing to the left, it'll never be enough. Very important message. It seems simple,
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00:03:17.580 Tough words from Joe Biden. Listen, Vlad. Listen, Vlad. Please, please only attack these 16. Oh,
00:03:26.020 please do not attack these 16 things. I'm sorry. It's confusing because when you tell our adversary
00:03:31.740 that these 16 things would be the absolute worst things to attack, please don't do it. What you are
00:03:38.620 in effect telling him is these are the 16 things you should focus on attacking. The irony, of course,
00:03:44.200 is that Donald Trump was tougher on Russia than any president since at least Ronald Reagan and maybe
00:03:51.340 going back even further. There's no question about it. He was much tougher than Obama or Bush for that
00:03:56.760 matter or Clinton or Bush too. And I guess Reagan would, you know, Reagan did destroy the Soviet
00:04:03.140 Union. So that would be the most recent one. But Trump was very, very tough. And what does Joe Biden
00:04:10.180 do when he comes into office? He starts removing some of those sanctions, some of those attacks.
00:04:17.700 He's giving Putin what he wants in certain areas of commerce and oil. And now he's saying you can
00:04:25.480 attack us and it won't really matter. Don't attack those 16 things. This is not just showing you the
00:04:35.780 U.S. and Russian relations under the different parties. It also shows you how the left negotiates.
00:04:41.560 When they're negotiating on behalf of the country, they negotiate from weakness. And this is the phrase
00:04:45.720 of Ronald Reagan, peace through strength. This is not a new concept, but the left is always, always
00:04:51.200 arguing from a position of weakness abroad when they're talking about the American nation. This
00:04:56.580 was a bad trip overall for Joe Biden. He just was testy. He was tired. He was weak. Joe Biden actually
00:05:04.140 was tougher on a CNN reporter, a CNN reporter who once a year, a CNN reporter asks a sort of almost fair
00:05:11.880 question of the president of the Democrat president. And he can't take that. They all have to be soft
00:05:19.160 bowls. They all have to be, what kind of ice cream are you eating, Joe? The minute he gets a tough
00:05:22.260 question, he snaps. He went tougher on her than he did on Putin. I'm not going to walk away on this.
00:05:28.000 Why are you so confident he'll change his behavior, Mr. President?
00:05:31.960 I'm not confident he'll change his behavior. What the hell, what do you do all the time?
00:05:35.280 When did I say I was confident? I said, I said, what I said was, let's get it straight. I said, what will change
00:05:43.520 their behavior is that the rest of the world reacts to them and it diminishes their standing in the world.
00:05:49.960 I'm not confident of anything. I'm just stating a fact.
00:05:52.660 But given his past behavior has not changed, and in that press conference, after sitting down with
00:05:57.240 you for several hours, he denied any involvement in cyber attacks. He downplayed human rights abuses.
00:06:03.340 He even refused to say Alexei Navalny's name. So how does that account to a constructive meeting
00:06:09.520 as President Putin? You don't understand that you're in your own business.
00:06:13.680 It's a summit with China.
00:06:14.980 We need to love. We need to love quickly. Let's go.
00:06:17.940 So this is as tough on a journalist as Donald Trump ever was. And yet, of course, the coverage,
00:06:26.600 you can actually see the coverage from some of the blue check journos on Twitter.
00:06:30.620 They'll say, Donald Trump refused to answer a question and stormed away. This is an attack
00:06:35.520 on our democracy. And then you see Joe Biden. Well, maybe she shouldn't have asked Joe Biden
00:06:40.100 that question. And well, you know, maybe this and that. Biden, I think, did actually have to
00:06:44.600 apologize for this because he had no answer to the question. The question was a smart one
00:06:50.380 and it was an important one. There's no reason to believe that Putin is going to make good on his
00:06:54.600 promises. Joe Biden has no leverage here. And his negotiation was brutal. It was awful. It was it
00:07:01.040 was weak. CNN, CNN has this one journalist, Caitlin Collins, who asks him a question. Joe Biden was
00:07:10.320 not used to that because Joe Biden, as he has told us already, does not want to get unexpected
00:07:17.980 questions. He gets a list from his people of the reporters that he is to call on. And when he loses
00:07:24.040 his spot in the list, he actually holds up the press conference and says, hold on a second here. I've
00:07:28.080 got to I've got to get out my paper to know which pre-screened journalists I'm allowed to talk to.
00:07:33.100 So I'll take your questions. And as usual, folks, they gave me a list of the people I'm going to
00:07:38.340 call on. So Jonathan, Associated Press. You're not supposed to say that part, Joe. That's you just
00:07:46.260 have it on the sheet and then you pretend like you're you're just calling on them. But you're
00:07:50.340 not supposed to mention that they gave you the list. Who is they? They are the people who are
00:07:56.280 actually running the country because it's quite clear at this point that Joe Biden is not. Do you feel
00:08:01.700 comfortable with this guy negotiating on behalf of you and on behalf of your communities in your
00:08:06.940 country? Of course not. But I suppose it doesn't really matter because Joe Biden is just a stand
00:08:11.760 in for the liberal blob and the liberal establishment. Now, CNN does not have the only journalists out
00:08:18.180 there who very rarely, but on occasion, switch up the narrative. We saw this the other night with
00:08:25.660 no less a liberal than Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart went on Stephen Colbert's CBS show. These guys used
00:08:33.560 to work together on Comedy Central at The Daily Show, The Colbert Report. Now they're coming and they
00:08:38.240 actually disagreed. These are both dyed in the wool liberals. They disagreed because Jon Stewart said,
00:08:44.840 you know, it sure does look like the virus came from that lab in Wuhan.
00:08:50.300 I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has in many ways helped ease
00:09:00.360 the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science.
00:09:09.080 What do you mean by that? Do you mean like there's a chance that this was created in a lab,
00:09:12.880 there's an investigation? A chance?
00:09:14.560 Well, if there's evidence, I'd love to hear. There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking
00:09:22.640 Wuhan, China. What do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory
00:09:29.500 coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab.
00:09:35.560 That's the thing about Stewart. Stewart actually is pretty funny, right? And he is a, I don't think
00:09:41.860 he's a sophisticated political thinker, but he points out what we have all known for a year and
00:09:46.960 a half. And this is where I want you to be very careful. Do not give Jon Stewart credit. Do not
00:09:53.540 do it. This is an op. This is fake. Do not believe this. The purpose of this debate between Jon Stewart
00:10:03.620 and Stephen Colbert, and I'm not saying this is the purpose that was going on in Jon Stewart's mind or
00:10:08.960 Stephen Colbert's mind. I'm saying this is the reason this is being blown up and being talked
00:10:12.700 about right now is to create the illusion that, that parts of the media are reasonable on this.
00:10:19.140 Parts of the media are losing their, using their common sense. Where was Jon Stewart a year and a
00:10:23.780 half ago? Where was he? Where were the mainstream media a year and a half ago? He's right. Yeah. Oh,
00:10:29.560 the novel coronavirus that was found in bats is discovered right next to the novel coronavirus in
00:10:37.380 bats laboratory in Wuhan. Oh, wow. What a coincidence. No, obviously it had something to
00:10:42.700 do with the lab. When we said that a year and a half ago, the Jon Stewart's of the world were either
00:10:48.720 silent or were telling us that we were crazy coup conspiracists and big technology companies were
00:10:54.500 censoring us and were fact checking us. And we're telling us that that was absolutely crazy and
00:10:59.800 unscientific and we should be ostracized from society. And now they're saying, well, what? I
00:11:04.020 mean, obviously we've got common sense. Obviously it had something to do with the lab. Yes, that's true.
00:11:09.640 I'm glad that you agree with me, Johnny come lately, but it's so disingenuous because you had to cover it
00:11:14.840 up a year and a half ago because it contradicted your political agenda. And it would have put into
00:11:19.440 greater peril, the 2020 election that you were trying to win. And it would have given Donald Trump
00:11:24.060 credit for being obviously correct at the time that they all said, no, he's a racist. He's unscientific.
00:11:30.040 He's a ruby. He's an idiot. Trump got, I want to say 97 out of a hundred things right on the
00:11:38.520 coronavirus. The mainstream media and the Dr. Fauci's and the democratic party got, I was going
00:11:46.140 to say three out of a hundred things right. I think it's zero out of a hundred things right on the
00:11:49.620 coronavirus. And now they're going to try to come in and pretend that they were reasonable on this as
00:11:55.820 well. No, thank you. Sorry. It's not going to work. I'm glad that Jon Stewart is learning and he's
00:12:00.300 coming back around and he's going to try to do better. That's fine. We'll give him grace to do
00:12:04.960 that in the future, but a year and a half late ain't going to cut it. No, do not fall for this.
00:12:10.140 They were entirely wrong on the virus. They have new credibility. They should not be believed on any part of
00:12:17.020 it from now on. And you're going to hear a whole lot about not just the vaccines, the vaccine
00:12:22.060 passports, the new, the new lockdowns for the new variants or whatever. Don't believe them. Don't
00:12:27.480 believe them about any of it. If they hadn't squandered their credibility day in and day out by
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00:13:50.940 There will be no accountability from the mainstream media. They lie and they lie and they spread fake
00:13:56.380 news, and that's always true. But I'm talking about something much more egregious than fibbing about
00:14:02.780 some politician or whatever. They were complicit in shutting down the country for a year and a half.
00:14:12.100 And now they're going to change their tune that the fact of the matter is undeniable with regard to
00:14:17.620 China's complicity, with regard to the Wuhan laboratory, with regard to the very likely human
00:14:23.540 role in developing this virus. Now they're going to try to change their tune. Don't let them do it.
00:14:28.980 There's never any accountability from these guys. On a totally separate issue,
00:14:34.620 I have to play you. I meant to play it for you a few days ago, but it's still quite relevant.
00:14:39.880 Anna Navarro, who is a fake Republican. She's one of the Republicans, one of the court jester
00:14:45.060 conservatives who is hired by the leftist media to dance around and do a little soft shoe and put a
00:14:51.440 jester hat on and pretend to be a Republican to give the illusion of debate. And her entire purpose
00:14:58.820 is to prop up the ruling liberal regime. But if the ruling liberal regime only had liberals on the
00:15:05.160 shows, only had open liberals on the shows, then it would seem like North Korea or something.
00:15:11.400 It would seem like Assad's Syria or Putin's Russia. It would seem like there's no dissent whatsoever.
00:15:18.320 But if they put on some fake Republicans who, you know, they put on their Republican makeup and they
00:15:23.620 do a little dance, then it at least gives the illusion of debate. So Anna Navarro is one of
00:15:28.180 these people on The View on ABC. Anna Navarro came out defending another journalist, mainstream media
00:15:36.400 star who's not going to have any accountability, Jeffrey Toobin. Jeffrey Toobin, who was caught,
00:15:40.720 in the words of Woody Allen, having sex with someone he loves on a Zoom call for the New Yorker
00:15:45.720 magazine. He's now being rehabilitated. There's no problem at all for Jeffrey Toobin. So he is coming
00:15:53.060 back into the mainstream and he's, you know, going to be on CNN again. And Anna Navarro says,
00:15:59.740 you know what? I think it's perfectly fine.
00:16:02.120 You know, actually, I'm not surprised he's back on the air. But I will tell you when I saw that
00:16:06.640 interview, oh God, how embarrassing, how humiliating. I kept thinking to myself, if I have to go
00:16:13.320 on live TV and explain to the nation why I masturbated on a Zoom call, I think I'd rather
00:16:19.680 go sell avocados under I-95 than get my job back on TV. Look, I think some instances of sexual
00:16:28.920 harassment are black and white. Some instances are more nuanced. In this case, he was not sexually
00:16:36.660 harassing anybody. He didn't have the intent to sexually harass somebody. He was sexually harassing
00:16:41.860 himself, maybe. Okay. He was on a Zoom call. It was an accidental exposure. It was not a CNN Zoom
00:16:50.600 call. It was with the New Yorker from where he has been terminated and faced consequences.
00:16:56.200 Anna Navarro's commentary here is accidentally interesting. I don't think she knows why it's
00:17:02.360 interesting, but it is. For her, and don't forget, she's considered to be one of the conservative
00:17:08.780 people on The View. She isn't. She's a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. But for her, the only fault
00:17:17.320 that one can engage in is the violation of consent. The only criterion that matters when we're making
00:17:26.300 moral judgments for Anna Navarro is consent, right? It's the harassment. It's infringing on someone
00:17:34.960 else's desires or feeling of comfort. And so Jeffrey Toobin did that. He just didn't know that he did
00:17:41.760 that. He said it was a sort of accidental exposure, an accidental sexual harassment. But to me, the
00:17:47.220 sexual harassment was not really so much the issue. Like, yes, I mean, I'm sure people felt
00:17:55.520 uncomfortable looking at that on Zoom, and that was, I'm sure, terribly unpleasant for them. But it
00:18:00.700 was the behavior itself. It was shameful for him. Why is it shameful? Why is it shameful and embarrassing?
00:18:11.760 And why would Anna Navarro rather go sell avocados underneath a bridge than have to show her face on
00:18:16.240 television again if she got caught doing that? Because the act is shameful itself. To quote Norm
00:18:23.000 McDonald, sex is a filthy, shameful thing that is obviously only meant for procreation. He put that
00:18:28.920 in one of his comedy albums, and Norm McDonald is one of the greatest political philosophers around.
00:18:34.140 Jeffrey Toobin did a thing that we just know intrinsically is shameful, and that brings us
00:18:40.100 embarrassment. And that's why Anna Navarro would rather go sell the avocados underneath the bridge.
00:18:44.520 But she doesn't understand that. We don't have the moral language to talk about private acts as
00:18:49.920 though they can be right or wrong. But now, on the left, and even in part on the right,
00:18:54.300 anything that you want to do, so long as it is in private and doesn't hurt someone else
00:18:58.460 in some obvious way, is considered to be A-OK. That's a very degraded, shallow moral vision of
00:19:07.520 politics. And it's why all of, even the people who are conservatives today actually seem a lot
00:19:12.420 like liberals. Just think about this phrase. You ever hear, hey, don't be a wanker. I guess it's
00:19:18.040 said more in the United Kingdom than here. Hey, don't be a wanker. Why? Why don't you want to
00:19:21.240 do it? Because there's something shameful about that. And we can transform society and deconstruct
00:19:27.740 and, you know, contrive this and that. But it doesn't matter. That's always going to be
00:19:33.120 the case. Speaking of guys looking at pictures of hot women and speaking of human nature not changing,
00:19:40.500 Victoria's Secret is getting rid of the angels. Victoria's Secret is getting rid of all the hot
00:19:46.420 chicks. And they're making a conscious decision to trade the hot chicks for Megan Rapinoe, that
00:19:53.500 radical purple haired lesbian soccer player. And they're going to do this as a major, massive
00:20:01.920 marketing turnaround to give women what they really want. So this is the headline, New York Times,
00:20:08.540 Victoria's Secret swaps angels for what women want. Will they buy it? This shows you, speaking of
00:20:14.980 self-love and self-obsession, this shows you how mistaken this modern ideology is. The embattled
00:20:22.400 lingerie giant is attempting the most extreme brand turnaround in recent memory, an effort to
00:20:25.880 redefine not just itself, but also the very idea of what sexy is. So, so what? I'm trying to be like
00:20:34.540 polite about this. Victoria's Secret is now going to say that, what was that woman's name, Tara Banks?
00:20:41.780 You know, she was like extremely attractive or all of the Victoria's Secret angels. They are no longer
00:20:48.360 sexy. They're going to redefine sexy. So they are no longer sexy. Sexy is Megan Rapinoe. Sexy is
00:20:56.460 people who are not sexy. That's, that's the, that's the argument even that the New York Times is making.
00:21:04.100 Okay. This is, I guess, just one of the most ridiculous examples of how the left tries to
00:21:13.160 redefine the words in order to redefine reality. You might say they try to control words to control
00:21:19.260 minds, which is the subject of my upcoming book, Speechless, available now for pre-order. Just in
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00:21:50.000 I'm going to double up on the Pavlovian responses. So that, that's their plan. They're going to,
00:21:54.560 at Victoria's Secret, get rid of the hot angels and put in these people who are not,
00:21:58.080 not attractive. They say this is what women want. Why do women buy Victoria's Secret?
00:22:05.280 Do they buy Victoria's Secret just for themselves? No, they buy Victoria's Secret for me and for you,
00:22:15.120 other guy listening to this show and for you guy listening to this show in your car.
00:22:20.640 They buy Victoria's Secret to make themselves attractive to men. There may be some other
00:22:26.520 reasons. Maybe it feels more comfortable in certain ways, but really that's not it.
00:22:30.820 The purpose of Victoria's Secret is to be sexy, right? That's what New York Times is telling you.
00:22:35.580 They're redefining what sexy is. It's to be sexy. Who are they sexy for? They're sexy for men. I know
00:22:40.440 that today we're supposed to pretend that 90% of the population are like trans, bi, non-binary,
00:22:48.020 lesbian. But that's just not true. The overwhelming majority of people, 97% or so, are basically
00:22:56.640 ordinary in their sexual views. And for the vast, vast, vast majority of women, they're trying to
00:23:01.760 attract men and men are not attracted. I don't want to be rude to anybody. Men are attracted to
00:23:09.520 people who are sexy. And what is sexy is to a very small degree socially constructed and to the much
00:23:16.320 larger degree natural. It comes from our loins. It comes from our DNA. It comes from our caveman brain.
00:23:23.840 And no amount of social engineering is going to change that. This Victoria's Secret story is the
00:23:29.880 whole story of progressive politics. The progressive looks at the world and says, I hate this world. I
00:23:36.040 hate the way society is. I hate the way we live. I hate nature itself. And I'm just going to change it.
00:23:41.420 And I can change that through my unfettered reason and through my tyranny of will in politics, which
00:23:47.700 can turn the world into anything that I want it to be. Ye shall be as gods. As the serpent tells
00:23:54.400 Eve in the Garden of Eden, as Whitaker Chambers, the ex-communist, describes communism, saying it's the
00:24:00.640 serpent in the garden. Ye shall be as gods. But you shan't be. You really will not be. You can't totally
00:24:06.180 change the world. The experiments in politics fail. And I strongly suspect the experiment from
00:24:12.040 Victoria's Secret is going to fail too. You know, there are great books to pre-order these days.
00:24:18.360 Notably, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds. It's hard to get the three at once.
00:24:24.080 The second best book you can pre-order right now, The Authoritarian Moment by Ben Shapiro. It's
00:24:28.440 available for pre-order at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or any other major bookseller. And it will be my
00:24:31.900 campaign slogan someday. If you go to the Amazon Prime video page, by the way, you'll find an entire
00:24:37.560 section dedicated to black voices. Black, this is the most important, there's black voices from black
00:24:45.280 history month or black lives matter month or I don't know. Now, once upon a time, you were also able to
00:24:52.060 find Created Equal, Clarence Thomas's documentary that details his rise from the segregated South to the
00:24:58.160 highest court in the land and the all-out war that was waged on him by the left during his confirmation
00:25:03.560 process, which, by the way, is an episode that I talk about in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling
00:25:06.800 Words, Controlling Minds. However, even though Clarence Thomas is one of the most important black voices
00:25:13.220 in the country, the documentary just mysteriously disappeared from Amazon's queue during, none other
00:25:19.840 than, that sacred black history month. It's not, you can't get it anywhere. Well, it's so strange. Take a quick
00:25:25.820 look at the trailer. I was never going to be white. The problem is I can never go back completely to
00:25:32.760 the world I came from. I saw what I had become and I asked God that if you take anger out of my heart,
00:25:40.320 I'll never hate again. You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black
00:25:44.220 people to do. That's when all heck broke loose. So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
00:25:49.640 I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
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00:26:25.820 Victoria's Secret is trading in the angels for Megan Rapinoe. You know, they're trading in
00:26:40.300 people traditionally considered to be sexy for, according to the New York Times, people who are
00:26:46.000 not. They are doing that because the very idea of making oneself desirable to another person
00:26:54.360 is now considered wrong, unjust, and bigoted. You've seen a lot of TikToks going around TikTok.
00:27:02.280 I guess, I actually, I'm not on TikTok because I don't want to give Xi Jinping all of my data,
00:27:05.820 but you do see these videos going around YouTube or going around Twitter from TikTok. And a woman
00:27:11.300 explained the even, even murkier, more bigoted origins, origins of fatphobia. It doesn't just
00:27:19.460 come from anti-fatness. It also comes from racism. Here's your reminder that fatphobia is rooted in
00:27:26.680 racism. As always, if you haven't read this book, go do that. The main thing to understand is that for
00:27:33.260 the last 300-ish years, white folks have been marketing fatness as a black trait. And this is
00:27:38.660 regardless of whether or not black people individually were actually fat. That was
00:27:42.680 irrelevant. The message they spread was that black women specifically were ravenous and uncontrollable,
00:27:47.960 and these barbaric traits made them fat. On the flip side, thinness was marketed as a white trait.
00:27:53.360 Again, regardless of whether or not individual white people were actually thin, that was irrelevant.
00:27:58.200 The idea was that white women specifically were refined and restrained, and this led them to having
00:28:03.100 delicate, thin bodies. Over the years, these messages have become more subtle, but even today,
00:28:07.880 they're still very prevalent in conversations around race, health, capitalism, and poverty.
00:28:12.400 So fatphobia is the, well, I guess literally it would mean the irrational fear of fat people,
00:28:19.840 but that's not what we're talking about here. What she means fatphobia, she means having a preference,
00:28:26.560 specifically a sexual preference for people that you find more attractive than other people.
00:28:31.020 And if you have that, if you have a, just a natural attraction, that's bigoted, that's racist.
00:28:35.600 And she's saying that fatphobia, the, by which she means just being attracted to people you're
00:28:41.480 attracted to, that is rooted in racism because terrible white people, all those white people
00:28:49.660 marketed the idea that black women were fat, regardless of the individual black women.
00:28:55.320 Now, do you notice the logical error there? She's saying it's terrible to generalize about black
00:29:01.160 women, which is what all the, all those white people did. Well, hold, aren't you generalizing
00:29:05.760 about the white people? You're, you're willing to get specific and individual about the black people,
00:29:10.820 but not about the white people because there's a complete double standard because this argument
00:29:15.100 is incoherent, but it's, it's just designed to get at a deep racial animus. And she says,
00:29:20.400 this is, was awful. Let's assume that her premise is true, that in popular culture, black women were
00:29:25.760 considered to be on average, more likely to be fat. That's just true. That's, that's true. That's
00:29:32.700 actually one of the reasons that the coronavirus was tougher in black communities than it was in
00:29:38.600 white communities is because in certain black communities, they were more likely to be obese
00:29:43.440 and obesity was a comorbidity. Obesity was, was considered to be a factor that would put you at
00:29:49.380 greater risk. So yeah, that, that's true. You're denying now statistics, the right facts that we can
00:29:57.980 see from the CDC and from, from other agencies. Is that it's a hate fact? You're not allowed to
00:30:04.380 acknowledge that? No, because if you acknowledge that fact, then you're perpetuating inequality. Well,
00:30:10.620 it wouldn't it be better than to just like try to solve the problem? Well, no, if you try to solve
00:30:14.880 the problem and deal with these health issues in the black community, which we have been told is,
00:30:19.460 is very important. Part of inequality is that there are worse health outcomes in the black community.
00:30:23.860 Okay. Well then perhaps we should tell people who are obese to lose weight. Well, you can't do that
00:30:27.820 because that's fat phobic. Well, then what on earth are we supposed to do? You're supposed to feel
00:30:31.540 bad about yourself and you're supposed to deny your attractions and you're supposed to hate
00:30:37.920 your self and your ancestry and you're supposed to upend nature. Oh, is that all? Okay. That's fine.
00:30:46.860 That's what, that's ultimately what it comes down to. There can be no solution to this. There can be
00:30:51.440 no victory. Everything is about racism and racism can never be solved. And when some racial issues seem
00:30:59.960 more important than others, we always have to redirect as the attorney general Merrick Garland just did
00:31:04.120 and explain away every problem in society by white supremacy. The number of open FBI domestic
00:31:13.020 terrorism investigations this year has increased significantly. According to an unclassified
00:31:20.160 summary of the March intelligence assessment, the two most lethal elements of the domestic violence
00:31:25.460 extremist threat are racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists and militia violent extremists.
00:31:32.220 In the FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat comes from racially or ethnically
00:31:39.280 motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocated for the superiority of the white race.
00:31:46.060 According to the FBI, the biggest threat in the country is white supremacists. And that is just
00:31:53.700 obviously ridiculous. It's just, oh my gosh. Name the last organized white supremacists. He's talking
00:32:06.200 about militias and all these organizations. Name the last organized white supremacist terror attack.
00:32:13.760 And you name it. What, what you're going to name, if we're trying to be as fair as possible to these
00:32:18.620 people like Merrick Garland is you're going to say the Capitol riot. Okay. Who, who did the racist white
00:32:27.460 supremacists? I didn't see very many of them, but let's, let's say that that's, let's, let's conflate
00:32:32.740 everything. Let's say that every Trump supporter is an evil, vicious white supremacist, neo-Nazi.
00:32:37.840 Obviously not true, but let's say it. Who did that, that group of people kill at the Capitol riot?
00:32:44.520 Officer Brian Sicknick. Nope. That's not true. Even the New York times had to admit that was a lie.
00:32:50.480 Uh, some other, nope, nope, nobody, nobody. The only person who was killed in the violence of that day
00:32:55.540 was one of the Trump supporters, Ashley Babbitt killed by, ostensibly by a Capitol Hill police
00:33:01.760 officer, but they're all really mum about it. No one is, is talking about it. No, no transparency
00:33:08.500 whatsoever. Okay. Now what about in the summer of 2020? When, when was the last
00:33:15.420 black racially motivated mob, uh, tearing up major cities? Oh, for all of 2020, right?
00:33:24.600 The, the organization was called Black Lives Matter. Wasn't exclusively black people. There were,
00:33:29.260 there were also some Antifa people there as well that would smash in windows, but that obviously was a,
00:33:35.680 a racial movement. It was not a, not a white supremacist movement and they burned down Minneapolis,
00:33:41.340 burned down Los Angeles, burned down Washington, DC, burned down San Francisco, burned on and on,
00:33:48.780 burned down Chicago, on and on and on. And Merrick Garland stands up there with a straight face and
00:33:54.540 says, well, the really, the big threat is white supremacist. How many, how many people are members of
00:34:00.180 the Ku Klux Klan anymore? I, I suspect virtually every card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan is
00:34:07.380 just an FBI informant, right? They're all, it's just the FBI sort of spying on other people working
00:34:14.600 for the FBI. But, but it's white supremacy. It's the biggest problem in the whole wide world.
00:34:19.920 And so we need to pass a new holiday specifically to recognize the evils, the white supremacist evils of
00:34:27.320 this country and how we've overcome them. And that holiday is Juneteenth. Juneteenth, the most sacred
00:34:32.680 day. We talked about it a little yesterday, but there's a new of it. So the Senate passed it
00:34:36.100 a couple of days ago. Then the house passed it yesterday. It's going to the president's desk.
00:34:41.800 Everyone is in support of Juneteenth. Everybody. It was unanimous in the Senate. There were a handful
00:34:48.320 of Republicans in the house who opposed it. Virtually every conservative commentator is, is trying to come
00:34:53.760 out on the side of this being a really good idea because they don't want to be called racists.
00:34:57.740 I'm going to level with you. I'm just going to shoot straight. It's a bad idea. Juneteenth should
00:35:01.540 not be a federal holiday. It shouldn't. It's, it's, it's purely a leftist contrivance as it currently
00:35:08.080 stands and no Republican should go along with it. There were 10 federal holidays each year. Do you know
00:35:15.360 what those federal holidays are? New Year's day, Independence day, Thanksgiving day, Christmas day,
00:35:19.540 Washington's birthday, Memorial day, labor day, veterans day, Columbus day. Love that one.
00:35:23.460 And the birthday of Martin Luther King Jr. This holiday, this 11th annual holiday, Juneteenth,
00:35:31.200 seems categorically different to me than these other holidays. And I was trying to put my finger
00:35:37.780 on it. I said, what is it? What is it about Juneteenth that is different than these other holidays?
00:35:42.880 And I realized all of these other holidays involve gratitude. They're essentially about gratitude.
00:35:50.660 Thanksgiving. Obviously you give thanks to God. Christmas day. Obviously you give thanks to God.
00:35:57.400 Independence day. Even you give thanks to God. John Adams said this, that the day should be filled
00:36:01.900 with pious devotions to, to God for delivering us and giving us our freedom, our independence.
00:36:07.120 Even New Year's day, New Year's day, you give thanks to one another for old Lang Syne,
00:36:11.400 Washington's birthday, Columbus day, and Martin Luther King Jr. Day are to give thanks to these
00:36:17.080 great men who have accomplished great things in the country. Memorial day actually was begun as a
00:36:23.880 civil war holiday after Lincoln was assassinated to, to memorialize the civil war dead who gave their
00:36:29.220 lives for the very purpose of freeing the slaves. Labor day to give thanks to the ordinary Americans who
00:36:35.500 keep the country going. Veterans day, obviously to give thanks to the veterans. What does Juneteenth give
00:36:40.740 thanks for? It's not emancipation proclamation day, right? That would, that would be a, just a Lincoln
00:36:48.000 day basically. Thanks Lincoln for freeing the slaves. It's not 13th amendment ratification day.
00:36:53.400 Thanks legislators for outlawing slavery in the country. Juneteenth is just this day when a union
00:37:00.320 general makes it to Galveston, Texas and tells people that the slaves had been freed three years
00:37:04.940 prior by Abraham Lincoln. It's, it's just a local celebration in Galveston until a few years ago
00:37:10.100 when political activists decided to try to make it the most sacred day on the calendar.
00:37:15.580 But why, why Juneteenth? I suspect the reason that they prefer Juneteenth to say emancipation
00:37:21.680 proclamation day is because it is now very unfashionable on the left to give credit to
00:37:28.860 Abraham Lincoln for freeing the slaves. There was a piece came out in the Atlantic magazine,
00:37:32.600 one of the editors there a few years ago, some years ago, more than that,
00:37:35.580 invading against a bunch of movies, 12 years, a slave, a number of other movies, and including
00:37:42.140 Lincoln for perpetuating what they called white savior narratives. They said, this is awful.
00:37:47.720 You can't, we should not have movies where white people do good things to black people
00:37:51.560 or for black people. We can't do that. So Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, the white savior who freed the
00:37:59.860 slaves. He's not, you can't have a white savior narrative in that movie. No, he didn't free the
00:38:03.460 slaves. They freed themselves. That's not true, but that's what they're saying. Just the other day,
00:38:08.580 you saw this, this NPR TV critic attacking Tom Hanks and saying that Tom Hanks has spent much of
00:38:14.740 his career in his historical movies portraying white people, white men doing the right thing.
00:38:19.220 And that's unacceptable. White men cannot do the right thing. So I suspect the reason that it's not
00:38:24.100 emancipation proclamation day is because that would have to give credit to Abraham Lincoln,
00:38:27.560 a white guy. And you can't, you can't do that. I suspect the reason it's not 13th amendment
00:38:32.020 ratification days, you'd have to give credit to a lot of white guys. Can't, you're not allowed to
00:38:36.300 do that. That would be a white savior narrative. I suspect that the reason that Juneteenth has been
00:38:41.120 selected is because it's just this kind of inconclusive moment on the way in between the
00:38:47.780 emancipation proclamation and the 13th amendment that is just kind of giving some news, but it's
00:38:52.960 unfinished. It's not a holiday about gratitude. It's about resentment. You don't need to take my word
00:38:56.980 for it. This is the, this is what Rashida Tlaib said during the debate. This national holiday will
00:39:01.300 serve as a powerful reminder that we cannot run from our past. Not thank you for freeing the
00:39:06.340 slaves. No, no, it's we cannot run from our vicious past. Who's this other woman? Brenda
00:39:12.580 Lawrence, Democrat says during the debate, it's also a recognition that we have so much work to do
00:39:18.460 to rid this country of systemic racism, discrimination, and hate. So much work to do.
00:39:22.440 Not something was accomplished. That would be emancipation proclamation day or 13th amendment
00:39:27.200 day would be something was accomplished. Let's give thanks for that. This is no, no,
00:39:30.180 it wasn't accomplished. So much work to do. And then Obama, I think proved it last year when he
00:39:35.240 tweeted out, Juneteenth has never been a celebration of victory or an acceptance of the way things are.
00:39:42.260 It's a celebration of progress. It's an affirmation that despite the most painful parts of our history,
00:39:47.640 change is possible and there is still so much work to do. This is it. This is the perpetual
00:39:51.960 revolution that can never end. There's always so much work, nothing to be grateful for.
00:39:58.060 The past always evil, the future always better. We need to overcome the evil past to get into the
00:40:03.660 glorious future. It's a progressive holiday. It is the holiday of progressivism. And by the way,
00:40:10.080 it's not, the bill is not just called the Juneteenth bill. It's called the Juneteenth National
00:40:14.640 Independence Day bill. It is a reframing of our very independence day away from July 4th, 1776. That was a
00:40:21.780 bad day when bad evil white men cynically pretended to be calling for independence, but really they
00:40:27.560 weren't. They were just propertied white men grounding our country, founding it in racism and
00:40:34.200 bigotry. The 1619 Project says this. It's historically illiterate, but what she's saying is
00:40:39.340 that America was founded to protect slavery. Completely untrue, but that's the argument to
00:40:43.900 reframe American history. This holiday is about reframing American history. It's about reframing
00:40:48.560 our independence day. It's too bad that Republicans went along with it. Most Republicans went along with
00:40:53.200 it. Now, there is someone out there who wants to break the mold and run for president. I'm not
00:41:01.300 talking about the Republicans. I'm not talking about Ron DeSantis, who's obviously running for
00:41:06.380 president. I'm not talking about some Democrat, Kamala Harris, who may already be the president.
00:41:11.220 We're not sure. I'm talking about a centrist who's voted for both Republicans and Democrats.
00:41:18.100 I'm talking about a man that 46% of Americans, according to some probably bogus poll,
00:41:23.600 want to run for president. I'm talking about Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Do you smell how The Rock is
00:41:30.660 campaigning? I do. Dwayne The Rock Johnson was just giving an interview to People Magazine.
00:41:36.840 He was referring to this poll that 46% of Americans want him to run for president.
00:41:41.760 He said it's a humbling honor and that he would consider it. He said he's going to go on a listening
00:41:46.660 tour and figure out if people really want him to run. And this is his argument. I love our country
00:41:52.400 to my core, and I'm endlessly grateful for the opportunities I've had here as a half black,
00:41:56.600 half Samoan kid being able to work my ass off knowing tenacity opens doors. In a lot of ways,
00:42:01.560 I'm indebted to our great country for it. I am not eager for The Rock presidency. Okay,
00:42:07.900 I'm not eager for The Rock candidacy. I don't like that he endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris this
00:42:14.980 last time. I don't think he knows a damn thing about politics. I strongly suspect he would not
00:42:19.780 be a very good president. However, I would take him any day, even this guy who I don't think he knows
00:42:28.500 very much about politics, I would take him any day over Joe Biden. I would take him any day over,
00:42:34.920 I guess, anyone in the Democratic Party for this one reason. By the way, The Rock's policies may be
00:42:39.920 further left than some of these people. We just don't know, right? He's just an entertainer. But
00:42:44.880 The Rock seems to like our country. Isn't that a novel thing? It used to be that both parties loved
00:42:55.080 our country, waved the flag, but we had disagreements about certain issues. Today, we are told by Joe
00:43:01.420 Biden, by the current president, who's a thousand years old, who's as establishment as they get.
00:43:05.580 He says, this country was founded on the original sin of white supremacy. We've got to overcome our
00:43:11.100 past. It's the same stuff here from Obama. It's the same stuff you hear in the Juneteenth
00:43:15.600 bill arguments. That the country is a terrible place and we've got to overcome it.
00:43:20.020 And Dwayne The Rock Johnson is saying something that's so simple, but it's so nice that he's
00:43:27.440 grateful to the country, that it's a good place. He loves his country. You should love your country.
00:43:33.820 Love of country is an extension of love of your parents. It's an extension of filial piety.
00:43:39.020 Even if you've got problems with your country, you should still have a love of your country.
00:43:42.460 This is why sometimes you hear this dichotomy. My country, right or wrong,
00:43:46.780 my country only when right. This is not even a prescriptive question. It's just a descriptive
00:43:51.980 one. Your country is your country when it's right or wrong. And you need to stand by your country and
00:43:57.060 you need to have courage and you need to try to fix the things that ought to be fixed. Of course.
00:44:03.080 And Dwayne The Rock Johnson, at least at this very base level, very base level, if you ask me,
00:44:08.980 understands this kind of gratitude. We are not going to have a country very long though,
00:44:14.320 if we don't get certain things under control, namely immigration. What do we have? Something
00:44:20.100 like 6,000 people pouring across our border every single day now. This is untenable. The left loves
00:44:27.620 it because it's giving them future voters, statistically overwhelmingly likely to vote
00:44:31.860 for Democrats either once they get amnesty or down the road. So Greg Abbott, he's saying Joe Biden's
00:44:36.620 not going to give us any money for the wall. He's actually halted construction of the wall. So you know
00:44:42.020 what? We're going to build it ourselves. In a letter, Greg Abbott directed the executive director
00:44:48.220 of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to transfer a quarter billion dollars in general
00:44:52.300 revenue to the disaster fund within this trusted programs, within the office of the governor.
00:44:58.360 This will be a down payment to begin design and construction of the wall with Mexico.
00:45:04.320 Really good stuff. Because Greg Abbott, he's obviously throwing red meat out to the conservatives
00:45:07.820 and he's saying, we're going to build the wall ourselves. But that in a buck 50, I'll get you
00:45:11.060 a cup of coffee if you don't actually have the fund. So he's transferring a quarter billion dollars
00:45:14.380 to build it. That's good stuff. Ron DeSantis, not to be outdone, governor of Florida, is saying that
00:45:19.580 he is going to send Florida law enforcement personnel to Texas to protect the border.
00:45:26.500 Today, we're here to announce that the state of Florida is answering the call.
00:45:31.760 Florida is going to support Texas and Arizona. We believe that securing the southern border
00:45:38.360 is important for our country. But specifically, we believe it'll benefit the people of Florida
00:45:44.020 to be able to get this under control. And so where the federal government has failed,
00:45:48.560 the states are stepping up and doing our best to fill the void.
00:45:52.720 Wow. This is pretty big stuff. This is pretty big stuff. He is saying we're going to send
00:45:58.520 Florida law enforcement to another state. I, as the governor of Florida, I'm going to send my law
00:46:03.440 enforcement to another state to deal with the border. This is a very ambitious play. It's a very
00:46:11.220 dangerous play. If any Florida law enforcement officer is killed or frankly even injured down
00:46:17.760 there at the border, DeSantis is going to have big trouble. He's going to be accused of derelicting his
00:46:23.140 duty of compromising his responsibility to Floridians because of his national ambitions.
00:46:29.500 He's going to be saying there's no reason you should have been sending those guys over to the
00:46:32.020 Texas border. Now, the way he could defend it is to say, look, we are a country, all right? We are
00:46:37.060 individual states, but we are a country together. And the problem of illegal immigration is a problem
00:46:41.700 that's going to affect Floridians too. It's going to affect our whole country. Even if not one single
00:46:45.600 illegal alien came to Florida, the political issues caused by this will affect Florida.
00:46:49.460 Florida. We are not just islands floating off by ourselves. We are together in a country.
00:46:53.960 So it's an important matter for Florida to deal with this. It's a little bit of a tenuous argument,
00:46:58.820 but he could do it. The fact is, if and when he runs for president, this is going to be a good line.
00:47:08.180 He's going to be able to say, look, I broke the mold. I stood up in a way I took on national issues.
00:47:14.740 He's going to have a record on one of the most important issues in the Republican Party.
00:47:19.500 This guy is running very, very seriously for president. This guy is obviously very sharp.
00:47:27.520 He sees what he's doing and he is identifying, forget DeSantis for a second, he's identifying
00:47:33.000 this immigration issue, this issue of national identity, this issue of who we are and what kind
00:47:37.740 of political control we are even allowed to have. The bureaucracy and the liberal establishment says
00:47:42.700 we can't even control who comes into the country. And he's saying, yes, we can.
00:47:45.540 But he is betting that that is going to be the issue that motivates Republicans. The left is
00:47:52.320 betting that racial division is going to be the issue that motivates Democrats. And you're going
00:47:56.580 to, I think both of them are right. I think you're going to see that duked out. What's the real threat?
00:48:00.380 Where is the real America? What is the sort of issue that lies at the heart, the real heart of
00:48:05.940 Americans? That's the question for the next three years. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
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