Presidential Election 2020 LIVE ｜ Full Coverage
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Alicia Krauss and John Bickley explain how the Daily Wire s election night coverage will be bigger and better than anything we ve ever staged before at The Daily Wire, from Candace Owens to Megyn Kelly, Stephen Crowder, Dave Rubin, Glenn Beck, and more.
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Hey, Michael Knowles here. What will happen in the election? Well, we have got you covered.
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Don't miss a moment of the twists and turns in our special presidential election 2020 live
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coverage. We will have so many special guests, shocking Daily Wire announcements. It is truly
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Well, here we are. The day the Mayans warned us about election night 2020. It's the Super Bowl,
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the World Series and the whatever the heck soccer calls it all rolled into one. Will Donald Trump
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pull off another upset? Did the media do enough to get an old man in his basement elected to the
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highest office in the world? Do any of us have any idea whatsoever what's going to happen?
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No, I'm serious, guys. Does anybody know what's going to happen?
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Unbelievable, this guy. So there it is. The kind of profound and prescient political analysis people
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have come to expect from us. My God, it's going to be a long night. The first polls close in just
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under one hour. And no matter what happens, I think what couldn't be more clear is that the
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establishment media and social media have utterly failed in their basic responsibilities.
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We're going to devote some of the many, many, many hours that we'll be together tonight
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discussing that problem and discussing what we can do about it. But the first thing you can do,
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if you're watching this right now on one of those channels, YouTube, Facebook,
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well, click on over to thedailywire.com and watch the exact same show, us, over there.
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We've made some terrific enhancements to improve your viewing experience on our website tonight
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and to create a truly one-stop election HQ where you can get all the information you need
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to know exactly what's happening as we go. And we're making the entire broadcast free
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for everyone, not just for our dailywire.com members. That said, we will be taking questions
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from our members throughout the night and we'd love for you to get your questions in. So members
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will also have access to our live discussion feature throughout the show. Don't be afraid
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to become a member today. Use the promo code election. You'll get 25% off. Tonight's show
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is going to be bigger and better than anything we've ever staged before at the Daily Wire.
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We're going to have killer guests all night from Candace Owens to Megyn Kelly, Stephen Crowder,
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Dave Rubin, Glenn Beck, more. But we've also set up a war room to bring you the most up-to-date
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numbers, analysis, and social reactions throughout, well, throughout Armageddon,
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which is what we're facing tonight. To tell you how all that is going to work,
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I'm going to kick it over to the brilliant Alicia Krauss. Yes, I said the brilliant Alicia Krauss,
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because my attorneys credibly informed me I can no longer call her lovely without getting her to
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first sign a waiver. Alicia, tell us how the war room is going to work. I hope I look pretty lovely
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tonight and I know that I have other lovely people here with me and we're going to be bringing you
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hard-hitting brand new news information and data all throughout the night, including what people on
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social media are saying with a very familiar face of the Daily Wire audience, Cassie Dillon.
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Hi, so I'll be on Twitter all night long watching the reactions, maybe some meltdowns later.
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We'll see what happens, but I'll be watching what you guys are saying. So if you want to get
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involved, tweet at us at Real Daily Wire and I'll be here keeping you updated.
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So it's election night and next, the other thing that we have happening in the war room is we're
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going to go to Daily Wire's editor-in-chief, John Bickley. John, explain what's going on in this
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Gorgeously asked. Thank you very much. We've got the war room behind us. This is where we're crunching
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the numbers, getting the most recent data, all the updates on the election, feeding it out to you
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guys through live feed and on the website. So we're trying to just keep you up to date. You can stay
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with us the whole night. Don't have to worry about you're missing something. No, we've got it. We're
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on it. Editorial staff is on the ball. So that's what we're doing in there.
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So let's take a walk over here and see what we need to be looking for.
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So let's show this is another continuation of our war room. We have the data entry happening over here.
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And like you said, it's going to be cohesive. So people are watching the stream, hopefully on
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dailywire.com and then also checking out the homepage. Our team of hardworking people in there
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is going to be updating this map throughout the night.
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Right. So we have this interactive map here. No, I'm just kidding. It's not interactive.
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So we've got this map here that is laying out the scene. We thought about the best way. How do you
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explain to people what are we looking for tonight? We should start with 2016. This is how Trump won it
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and shocked everyone. He totaled over 300 electoral votes. How did he do it? He won 10
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of the 12 battleground states. No one saw this coming at all. No one anticipated it. And no one's
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actually predicting he will do that this year. He doesn't need to do it this year. He needs to get
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over 270. To do that, we've looked at it, looked at all the latest polling in the last week. There's
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been major movements actually in the poll, which we'll highlight later. He needs to win seven of the
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12 battleground states. So the 12, the seven to watch out of the 12 are Florida, Texas, both must
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wins, Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. So we're going to especially focus
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on those. Pennsylvania has become a major focal point for both campaigns. We'll keep you up to
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date on that and be watching these razor thin margins for these races. This, you know, it could
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be a long night, like we said, and it might be a long couple of weeks, but we're going to keep
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you up to date on it. So, and in this scenario, what are you paying attention to? Right. So we're
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looking at, we're comparing results, the early results from 2016, looking at how it's playing
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out in the different states. Florida is the first to watch. Got it. Georgia closes next. We're watching
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those very carefully. Those are super tight. They're within one, uh, uh, the margin of error
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of one. Wow. Um, in terms of the polling, same with North Carolina, Texas is getting close to that
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Ohio and Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, all of them within two. Okay. So it's going to be tight. So
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we're going to watch them in the order that they close and be updating and be updating the audience
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as we get information, be updating the guys on their set over there. And of course, I'll still be
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taking subscriber questions, member questions, which we love and to hear from the audience.
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So we have a lot happening over here. It's going to be really interesting, hard hitting news,
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lots of data, and you guys can just, you know, chat and smoke cigars or something.
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Beautiful. That's essentially all we're good for is chatting and smoking cigars. Guys,
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looking ahead at the night, we agreed no predictions, which I think is sound. Uh, everybody all day keeps
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texting me and asking me for predictions. That's what people want. I think when they talk to us,
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but my, my experience with this is the only prediction you can win is if you say Trump is
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going to win 40 States and then Trump wins 40 States. If that happens, you are a genius,
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but it's a high risk, a high risk ambit. Every other play only makes us look like we're bad at
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our job. So we're not here to tell you what's going to happen. We're here to tell you what's
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happening and what it means. We're here to talk about the stakes, uh, of the night, because I think
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the stakes are as high as they've been in any election, probably in modern memory. It's funny.
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Everybody says every election is the most consequential election of our lifetime. Part
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of that of course is hyperbole. Part of it is, uh, the, the sort of bias of the now. Um, but part
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of it is because as the government intrudes further and further and further into our lives,
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the actual stakes do ratchet in one direction. It's very hard to ever get that ratchet to go
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bad. I mean, that's the thing about a ratchet. It doesn't go the other way. So very important
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night. We're going to help people contextualize that. Uh, let's start just by talking about the
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stakes here together. Drew, what are we facing tonight? What does it mean?
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Well, I think before we even get to policy, I think you have to talk about culture because
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culture is where the future fights are going to be won and lost. And one of the things we have seen
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is we have seen a news media that has wholly corrupted itself. This is a, the legacy news media,
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which has just all in for one candidate to the point of actually blockading reasonable news
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after three and a half years of selling us a Russian collusion story that didn't happen.
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They actually shut down a Biden corruption story that very much looks like it might well have
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happened and is certainly better sourced than the Russian collusion story. But Adam Schiff doesn't
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know. He doesn't have firsthand evidence. He wasn't there. He wasn't physically in the room.
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And this comes after what to me was the turning point of everything, which was the Tara Reid accusations
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where after listening to a woman accused Brett Kavanaugh of something with no proof that she'd ever
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met him, we had Tara Reid accuse Joe Biden of having done something even worse. And she actually
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has met him. And in the one case, a full court press to destroy Brett Kavanaugh went into place
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across the media, all the way from one side to the other and from the left all the way to the far
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left. And with the other, it was buried. The other case didn't, the story wasn't told for 19 days.
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The New York Times buried in our Easter paper. And so what we're looking at now is do they have the
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power, as you said in your opening, funnily, but it's also not that funny, is do they have the
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power to take a clearly senile old man who is a front for a radical left party and push him over
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the top? And I think if we see that stopped, it is going to be very meaningful because it means
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that we, the replacement media, have a good shot at replacing this dishonest and corrupt,
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desiccated legacy. Funnily, but not that funnily, it's going to be the name of my autobiography.
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Ben, I agree with what Drew just said. I think that the real story tonight, no matter who wins,
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no matter who is the next president, the most, the most consequential event of the night or the
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most consequential story of the night is the state of the media in the country. What's your read?
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No question that that's the case. I think it's the media. I think more broadly,
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it's the takeover of virtually every cultural institution by the left. And I think that the
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right has typically fought the culture war by electing Republicans. If the Democrats are able
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to take back the auspices of government power and use that to foster the culture war as well,
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then all guns are turned against conservatives, against religious people, against people who just
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want to be left alone in their daily lives. We've watched the takeover of nearly every institution
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in America by a radical left, very small movement that has made extraordinary gains. And I'm not even
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just talking about the sort of typical democratic left. I'm talking about the woke left that seeks to
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cancel everybody who doesn't fulfill the obligations put upon them by Ibram Kendi and Robin DiAngelo.
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I'm talking about people who believe that you shouldn't be friends with anybody who would
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even consider voting Republican. You certainly shouldn't employ those people. Those people
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have now become a moving force in American life to the point where so many Americans are even afraid
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to speak freely. It's that bad on a cultural level. You get the power of government behind that.
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You get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Democrats in the Senate wrecking institutions in pursuit of
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majoritarian cram down on everybody else. And things could get really, really ugly really,
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really quickly. And when we talk about the institutions, we are obviously, you know,
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talking here about the establishment media, which has been worth eight to 10 points in nearly every
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election for Democrats in my lifetime. In this election, I guess there probably were 10 to 15
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points given how much they hate Donald Trump and how much rage they've stoked against Trump,
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particularly on the COVID issue, where they've just promoted the myth that Donald Trump is almost
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like a sort of bizarre blight upon the land and that if Trump is removed from office, COVID will
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just go away. But it's not just them. It's the it's the takeover of corporate America that scares the hell out
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of me as well. And that includes social media because corporate, there was this conventional wisdom
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idea that Republicans had bought into for a very long time, which was that that you sure everybody
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gets woke in college or everybody goes radical in college and then you grow up, right? You get out,
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get a job, get married, you pay taxes. And the old Winston Churchill kind of the old old saw about,
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you know, liberals being being, you know, having heart, but but having no brain by the time they're
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40, that would start to apply. People would move up, move on. But instead, what's happened is people
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got out of college and they actually changed the institutions to fit them. And so now you have
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major corporations saying that they will not do business with you if you are of a particular
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point of view, openly catering to the other side. You have credit card companies that are
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rejecting business with particular with particular businesses. You have social media that is acting
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the same way. They kind of live halfway in that space between media and corporate America. But
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the social media shutting down the Hunter Biden story, not because they thought it was false,
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but because they thought they feared it might be true. And so it had to be shut down because if it were
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allowed to be put out there, then you might have enough information to make your own choices. This
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is the battle that we're in right now. You know, Trump is at the forefront of that battle. Republicans
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are at the forefront of that battle, not because that's the way we win the culture war, but because
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if we continue to lose the culture war and we lose the political war as well, there will be nothing
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left other than a complete separation of the American public, which is what we're watching in real
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time. Yeah, it does seem like for the first time in my lifetime, balkanization is an actual
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possible outcome as as the red gets redder, as the blue gets bluer. And unlike the last time that
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we saw a separation happen in our country, I'm not sure that anyone actually cares enough for their
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for their fellow citizen who disagrees with them politically to actually engage in any sort of
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armed conflict to keep them. I mean, I think you can really see the possibility of something like
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Brexit forming. And, you know, Ben, you spoke about this eloquently in your book, but a sort of
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deunionization, right? Yeah, this is right. The dissolution of the republic. That's right.
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It could be at hand. The only reason I think that it could get ugly is because people who are in
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charge of the federal government, if they're Democrats, don't want to see the taxpayer dollars
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walk out the door. And they're very much afraid that that if job creation is happening in the
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red states and dying in the blue states, you can't let everybody who's got the money actually
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walk out the door. There's a reason that that East Germany had to actually build a wall to keep
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people from from escaping. All communism is international communism, right? It actually doesn't work in any
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sort of local. I mean, it doesn't work, but at least they can say they don't know that when Joe
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Biden says he's a unifying figure. And then it is perfectly obvious that his party has decided
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that they wish to basically subsume individual rights and personal freedoms and the philosophy
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of the Declaration of Independence in favor of a pursuit of left wing utopia. They're making their
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choice. That's an ugly choice. I mean, I thought that maybe the future of the country rested on good
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hearted liberals getting together with conservatives and classical liberals. And and at least we were
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unified over what we thought our basic rights were. And then we would argue about policy. But it seems
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like a lot of members of the Democratic Party, including people like Joe Biden, have decided it's
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much easier to go along with a woke left that gives them an easier path to utopia, even if that
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means getting rid of American philosophy, American history and those personal rights. Well, that brings us to
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another important issue, Michael, which is that we've seen an unleashing of racial animus
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during the last four years that is certainly different than anything that I've seen in my life.
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Drew lived through, I don't know, probably the Civil War.
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It was bad. It was real shooting then. You could only load once, but still, you know.
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Nevertheless, it really seems like in my lifetime, there's been great racial reconciliation has taken
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place all throughout my life. And now, you know, even pals of ours, David French made a speech in a
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debate that he did with Eric Metaxas in which he kept accusing Trump of fueling racial hatred in the
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country, pouring fuel on racial animus, I think is what he said. But I look around and I see the only
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people who are really wielding race and stirring racial animus are this modern left. It's Joe Biden
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saying that Republicans want to put you all back in chains. It's the burning down of cities now,
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apparently, even when an armed black man attacking police is killed by police and self-defense.
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You know, what does it mean for our country that these racial divisions are being played upon the way
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that they are? Is there a way to get back to a place where we can all coexist? Well, I think what
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it means is that Donald Trump just has not condemned white supremacy. I hope tonight, on election night,
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he would do that. I think he's done about 700 million times so far, but he should do it 700
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million and one times. Of course, Donald Trump famously said racism is evil. He goes on and on.
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He says we all bleed the same blood of patriots, which is true. We do all bleed the same blood of
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patriots if we're patriots, if we love our country. And the left has made clear they don't love the
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country. I wish it didn't come down to that, but I think this election presents a clear choice.
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Trump supporters wave the American flag. Biden supporters burn the American flag.
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Not all Biden supporters. Obviously, there are many who do not. But all the people who are burning
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the flags right now support Joe Biden over Donald Trump and more in a greater number than the flag
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burners. There are many, many Biden supporters who don't light the flag on fire, but they think that
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America was founded in 1619, not 1776. They think that America is fundamentally defined by the worst
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aspects of her history, namely slavery, among other issues. There are many people in this country who
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want to fundamentally transform it, who think the past of America is uniformly evil, who think that
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the present of America is uniformly evil, and they love America in the future, in the future of their
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dreams where it's unrecognizable. They want to, to quote Barack Obama, fundamentally transform America.
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Well, we're looking at an America that is becoming fundamentally transformed, and it's pretty ugly.
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That fundamental transformation is, as you were pointing out, Jeremy, creating a new American caste
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system, ripping up racial animosities, sexual animosities, all sorts of animosities. That is
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a really awful thing. And I think the election comes down to, do you embrace your fellow American
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as an American, wave the flag, or do you torch that country and create some new project that
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Okay, so we said we weren't going to do predictions. So let's not do predictions,
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So as John Bickley, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, my former position,
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has suggested, there are a bunch of states to keep an eye on early. Here's the rundown on when the
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polls close in each particular state. So as of 7 p.m. Eastern, which is in about 40 minutes here,
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the polls close in Georgia, the rest of Indiana. They already closed in some parts of Indiana,
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Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia at 7.30 p.m. Eastern, 4.30 p.m. Pacific. They
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close in North Carolina, Ohio, and West Virginia at 8 p.m. Eastern, Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware,
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D.C., Florida. Polls do close at 7 p.m. Eastern outside of Florida's panhandle, but they don't
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release the results the same way that they used to because obviously in 2000, there was a lot of fear
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that by releasing early results in Florida, they were actually going to lead to decreased voter
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turnout in the panhandle, which is sort of what happened. They started announcing the results
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early in Florida. A bunch of people in the panhandle said, oh, I guess the voting's over
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and didn't show up in the panhandle to vote for Bush. So they shifted how they report the votes
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in Florida. And most of the states basically by 8 p.m. Eastern are in Illinois, Maine,
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Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania,
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Rhode Island, and Tennessee. As far as when the states actually count those votes,
00:20:28.560
Florida counts nearly right away. So Florida is going to be probably your earliest indicator of
00:20:32.280
where the election is going at this point. And, you know, having spent some time in Florida,
00:20:37.680
it's always really competitive. It always tends to pull a little bit more Democrat than it
00:20:42.180
ends up being. That's what happened with Ron DeSantis and Andrew Gillum last time
00:20:45.240
in the gubernatorial race in 2018. I can tell you just anecdotally, the enthusiasm for Trump is
00:20:50.420
extremely, extremely high in Florida. I think that Trump is going to win Florida, although right now,
00:20:56.880
if you watch Twitter, if you watch the various parties, they're suggesting that there's a lot of late
00:21:01.500
turnout from 4 to 6 p.m. for Democrats, particularly in Broward County, which is a blue county in
00:21:05.860
Florida. It's close to Miami. It goes Miami, Dayton, then Broward, and then Palm Beach as you
00:21:10.040
move up the coast. So we'll see how Florida turns out. Keep an eye on North Carolina and Florida early
00:21:15.640
on. Later in the night, keep an eye on Arizona. Trump needs to win Florida, North Carolina, and
00:21:19.580
Arizona. This is his easiest path. Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, Pennsylvania. That's his path.
00:21:23.580
If he does not win any of those states, you're going to start seeing weird talk about Nevada or
00:21:28.520
Minnesota, maybe filling the gap. That is unlikely, I think, at best. So he does need to win those
00:21:33.780
three southern, southwestern states. And then he needs to win Pennsylvania as well. The Biden campaign
00:21:38.900
was betraying a little bit of anxiety, by the way, pretty early on. What it really comes down to,
00:21:42.420
for the people watching right now, is Trump can lose quite early tonight, as with Mitt Romney in 2012.
00:21:48.880
He can only win quite late tonight, as with Trump 2016. If we see the polls close in just under 58 minutes,
00:21:57.840
if the polls close in, I'm sorry, in just under 38 minutes, if the polls close in Florida and the
00:22:02.760
president were to lose Florida, it would be like 2012 Mitt Romney, a very short night. We'll be here
00:22:09.020
to commiserate with you, but it won't be the joyful celebration we're all hoping for. For the president
00:22:13.560
to win, he's going to have to pick up Arizona, which means we're going to be here probably until
00:22:17.260
8 p.m. All that, of course, best case scenario. That assumes that we're not within the margin of error.
00:22:20.920
That assumes that we're not litigating this thing until, you know, I don't know.
00:22:25.920
The end of time. Florida, again, most of the votes come in pretty early,
00:22:29.920
and they've been tabulating the votes as they go along. Pennsylvania is the one that's the
00:22:33.160
nightmare scenario. If it comes down to Pennsylvania, as people have been talking about, there's
00:22:36.320
a court ruling that basically kicked the can down the road on how late ballots can be received.
00:22:41.140
Ballots can now be received for days after the election. It is unclear whether they can be
00:22:44.400
postmarked after the election, which means that the election day is not actually the election day.
00:22:48.820
He's waiting as fast as he can to fill them out.
00:22:57.260
The sort of basic math thus far is that there's an expectation that Democrats are going to do well
00:23:02.980
in mail-in voting, that Republicans are doing well in early voting, not mail-in. Like in-person
00:23:08.000
early voting, they're doing pretty well, and that on election day, Republicans are expected
00:23:13.240
It's pretty surprising, the early voting. Republicans really turned out. Republicans are
00:23:17.320
a little stodgy. They like to vote on election day. I like to vote on election day. But they
00:23:21.040
did turn out early, and that was kind of a surprise, I think.
00:23:23.380
Yeah, the Trump campaign really put a lot of focus on that. I think they made a strategic
00:23:26.280
early error by saying that mail-in ballots are, in essence, bad.
00:23:29.460
They saw Trump shift on that, right? Trump went to, except for in Florida. In Florida,
00:23:32.480
they're kind of good, right? And so a lot of Republicans started to take him up on the,
00:23:35.780
okay, well, I don't trust mail-in ballots, but I do want to vote early, so I'm going to go
00:23:38.920
Well, listen, I don't blame them. Let me tell you about the shenanigans that have gone on
00:23:41.680
in California. I've gotten, I've been permanent absentee in California since it, basically,
00:23:47.600
since it became possible to be permanent absentee in California. I don't believe in voting until
00:23:51.580
election day. But what my wife and I have always done is a precaution in case we needed to travel
00:23:55.760
or ran into any other kind of problems. We're permanent absentee. On election day, we take our
00:24:01.040
absentee ballot to our polling place, and we turn it in instead of sticking it in the mail. I've
00:24:05.840
never trusted mail-in voting, but I always thought that it was, that it was prudent to get the
00:24:10.740
absentee ballot. For the first time this year, registered Republican, I did not receive an
00:24:16.100
absentee ballot. I received the sample ballot. I received the instruction packet. You get about
00:24:22.820
five things over the course of the months leading into the election. Got all of them. Did not get a
00:24:26.980
ballot. My wife did not get a ballot. My neighbor, who's a registered Republican, did not get their
00:24:31.520
ballot. His wife, who's a registered independent, did get her ballot. I've been hearing stories like
00:24:36.780
this anecdotally from my friends all around California, several people who work here. So for
00:24:41.120
the first time in quite a long time, I went down to my polling place without an absentee ballot.
00:24:45.920
I checked in. I asked them to check and see if anyone had voted on my ballot. Fortunately, they
00:24:50.320
said no, and they were able to cancel that ballot and let me vote on the machine. In the past,
00:24:55.080
California has always used the ink, punch ink system. This year, it was a digital system. It was
00:25:00.980
basically an iPad in a booth that isn't even all that private, right? People can watch you, but you go to
00:25:05.160
this iPad. And amazingly, when you get to the section on voting for president, they listed the
00:25:11.880
presidential candidates in order alphabetical by party. D is for Democrat. So right at the top,
00:25:18.660
there was Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. Then you had your Green Party. Then you had your Libertarian Party.
00:25:25.300
And that was it. That was all that was on the pad. There was a little bitty button down at the bottom
00:25:31.120
that said more. Now, I'm of a certain age where I grew up with computers. Everyone here is,
00:25:38.340
except, I mean, you grew up with an abacus, so you kind of understand. You've worked in media your
00:25:44.300
entire life. You can navigate a UX. Almost every UX is fairly intuitive, but we all have parents and
00:25:50.940
grandparents who are of a slightly different generation who can't navigate even like the
00:25:55.640
simplest Apple UX. You know, when you go from Apple iOS X to iOS X 0.1, it looks exactly the
00:26:05.040
same, but the color change. And your mom's like, Jeremy, I don't understand. Where's the green
00:26:09.720
button? Well, mom, it's the same button, but it used to be green. Now it's like almost green. It's
00:26:15.380
like green. It was forest green. Anyway, if you're 80, if you're 90, you're more likely to vote for Trump
00:26:21.920
than younger age demos. You don't know how to navigate these operating systems in a sort of
00:26:27.460
organic user experience. You don't know to push the little tiny more button at the bottom. I did,
00:26:32.620
and it takes you to a second page. Even on that page, Donald Trump isn't the first name because
00:26:36.180
there's so many parties and R is pretty low in the alphabet. But can you, just that small thing,
00:26:43.380
how much, how many votes get lost? Because people of a certain age get into the booth. They didn't get
00:26:49.240
their mail-in ballot that they're accustomed to getting. They get into the booth. It doesn't
00:26:52.540
even look like Donald Trump is on the ballot. You say, well, they can ask. Yeah, but in order to
00:26:58.140
ask, you then have to tell people who you're voting for. Right, right. Which, you know, I have
00:27:02.480
this strange experience. Also, California, I'm voting in a very liberal district, and I insisted
00:27:07.840
to my wife's chagrin on wearing the MAGA hat to go vote. And I wanted to do a little dance to vote
00:27:12.340
for Donald Trump. Is that illegal? That should be illegal to do that dance. Yeah, if you're me. So I go down,
00:27:17.680
I'm wearing the MAGA hat. And she said, we're going to get shot. At best, we're going to get
00:27:21.620
yelled at. And she was right. We did get yelled at. There was a little box that you could put it in.
00:27:26.020
And then there were people waiting in line to cast their early ballots. And I did get yelled at by a
00:27:30.440
guy who is voting for Donald Trump. And he said, hey, man, MAGA, you know, love the E.Y. And then I
00:27:35.560
got yelled at by another guy, also voting for Donald Trump, saying, don't put your ballot in that box.
00:27:40.260
You got to do it in here. It's safer. This, to me, would have been unthinkable. I voted in California
00:27:45.320
many times. I've always worn silly Republican shorts or MAGA hat or something like that.
00:27:50.740
Never have I seen that kind of enthusiasm. A lot of people who haven't lived out here
00:27:54.160
don't realize there have been rallies in Beverly Hills. This is the greatest compliment that I've
00:27:57.820
ever received. Because unbeknownst to Michael, what he is essentially saying is that I am so damn
00:28:04.900
good at my job that some poor schmuck actually recognizes me in public. He's like, I've gone to
00:28:11.780
polling places my entire life. No one's ever recognized. Yes. No, this is very true. He said,
00:28:18.240
give Jeremy my regards. I said, absolutely. I couldn't get it. I mean, these were fired up
00:28:22.140
Trump voters at a liberal precinct in L.A. There have been rallies in Beverly Hills going on. I'm
00:28:26.900
not saying Trump's going to win California. I'm not making any predictions. I'm certainly not making
00:28:30.120
that. You're right. This is a big change. This is a big change. And if the Republicans were not so
00:28:34.300
brain dead, which they are, we're the stupid party. They're the evil party. You know, if they were not
00:28:38.620
such a stupid party, they would catch on to this, that this is an important thing.
00:28:42.880
Jeb exclamation mark was never going to get that happening. John McCain was never going to get
00:28:47.000
that happening. You know, Mitt Romney, never going to happen. This is something that has really ignited
00:28:52.140
people and it has hooked the Republican Party into a new strain of enthusiasm that won't turn
00:28:56.780
California this time, but could turn California eventually. And when you see those crowds coming out,
00:29:01.500
I know they don't mean anything in terms of the polls, the ultimate votes. But when you see those
00:29:05.980
crowds turning out, that does tell you that there are people out there desperate for the kind of
00:29:10.460
talk that they're hearing from Donald Trump. And, you know, I think we have all, I think,
00:29:15.580
been very honest about Trump's character flaws. You know, we've talked about this.
00:29:23.300
Yeah, no, I said one time he only got 30,000 at the rally. He didn't get 40.
00:29:27.480
But we should talk for just a moment, if we might, about his character virtues, one of which is the fact
00:29:33.000
that while Joe Biden was hiding in his basement with a mask, he was out there walking around,
00:29:38.700
got COVID, three days later, is campaigning more in a single day than Biden is in a month.
00:29:45.820
Well, Biden's falling apart. I mean, you've seen footage from him today.
00:29:55.020
I mean, it is very difficult to look at him and believe that this guy is going to be president
00:29:58.200
But even even beyond that is just when you remember when when Trump got the disease and he came back
00:30:04.260
and he said, don't let this dominate your life.
00:30:06.520
And the media has once said, no, no, be afraid.
00:30:09.540
So I actually want to talk about this is a virtue that represents the Americans.
00:30:14.280
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So I promised you breaking news and breaking news you shall have.
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Rather than me tell it to you because I don't know nothing about it, we're going to go to Cassie Dillon in the war room.
00:32:24.520
So I've been keeping an eye on Twitter and a lot of things are going on right now.
00:32:29.480
D.C. boarded up before the elections and so did many other cities.
00:32:33.500
There's actually a wall outside the White House.
00:32:35.640
But right now in D.C. there is violence taking place.
00:32:38.640
There are many videos going around on social media.
00:32:41.480
There's one of a man with a metal bat outside the White House.
00:32:44.720
And then there's one of actually people getting arrested.
00:32:49.740
And apparently the violence started after the police tried to disperse a crowd to move a car that was parked illegally.
00:32:56.720
But violence is already taking place and polls have not even closed yet.
00:33:00.900
So, you know, that's not really telling for the rest of the night.
00:33:03.660
But these videos keep coming out and it's very troubling.
00:33:06.500
You can take a look here. People on the ground, police threw them on the ground.
00:33:10.020
And, you know, people are coming with weapons and they're ready to cause some problems, it seems like.
00:33:15.200
Have we seen anything like this in living memory during a presidential election?
00:33:19.720
I mean, well, during inauguration day for Trump, right, people went nuts and there was a bit of rioting in D.C.
00:33:23.340
But but on election day, the prep that you're seeing on the ongoing for violence, that people are looking for violence.
00:33:30.680
Like the fact is, if Joe Biden wins tonight, I think there will still be violence.
00:33:33.280
I think that if Biden wins, I think that there's going to be celebratory looting.
00:33:36.560
I mean, when out here in L.A., when the Lakers won the championship, there was celebratory looting.
00:33:40.600
I mean, so there's always a group of people who are going to take advantage of any situation to do that.
00:33:44.560
But everybody understands that if Trump wins, the violence is going to be extraordinary in a lot of blue cities.
00:33:49.660
Nobody's boarding up because they're afraid of MAGA-hatted thugs coming down the street and wailing on their business front.
00:33:54.480
Anybody who tells you differently is just lying to you.
00:33:56.180
Well, I am going to go and get myself a Gucci purse tonight.
00:34:02.340
I'm not going to be the only one with that one.
00:34:04.140
People have said for the past four years, Donald Trump makes me so ashamed.
00:34:07.860
You hear this mostly from the left, but even some Republicans.
00:34:14.800
You know what does make me ashamed to be an American, though?
00:34:18.400
Because the world's greatest democracy now looks like a third-world banana republic with stores boarding up and people already engaging in violence because of an election.
00:34:28.800
Antonin Scalia famously said in the 2000 election, Bush v. Gore, that it was so humiliating as a country that the greatest democracy in the world couldn't conduct its own election.
00:34:37.140
How much more humiliating that before the results have come in, we are boarding up shop because of political violence in the street like we're some two-bit dictator.
00:34:46.320
I can't remind you of this, but I can't help myself that four years ago when Trump won and you were kind of saying, oh, this is a bad election.
00:34:53.440
And I said, well, at least we have the peaceful transfer of power.
00:34:56.860
You said, of course we have the peaceful transfer.
00:35:00.760
You know, we should value these things while we got them because they disappear like that.
00:35:04.400
Well, it is another element of, you know, what we're talking about when we talk about replacing the media.
00:35:09.420
The fact that there have been polls showing a plurality of Americans believe that the violence in America's cities are being caused by militias and right-wing groups.
00:35:17.580
And that is because of the ongoing propaganda effort by the Democratic Party and the media, which are arms of one another.
00:35:26.300
To proclaim that violence in America is chiefly caused by the right wing.
00:35:30.620
The same people who call the Tea Party terrorists won't force Joe Biden to even face up to saying anything bad about Antifa.
00:35:36.120
And then they claim that the violence in the streets has nothing to do with them.
00:35:38.720
And I'm sorry, but a lot of what we're talking about tonight, if Trump wins and there is violence, a lot of what we're talking about tonight has been actively fostered by a media that has been proclaiming the only way that Donald Trump loses, the only way Donald Trump wins is through voter suppression.
00:35:52.580
And they're actively saying this day after day.
00:35:55.180
They are arguing that all of these lawsuits being filed all over the country by Republicans about what ought to be illegally counted about and what ought not to be illegally counted about.
00:36:03.840
So Anna Pressley suggests that long lines for a thing are voter suppression, unless it's for bread.
00:36:09.580
But if it's a line to vote, then it's very bad.
00:36:11.660
Bread lines are good because at the end you get bread.
00:36:13.840
Lines to vote are bad because at the end you vote.
00:36:17.640
So the Democratic claims of voter suppression have been so much more loud and boisterous than even the Republican claims of voter fraud.
00:36:25.800
And I'm not a big fan of the voter fraud claims because I just don't think that there's systemic evidence of hundreds of thousands of votes being counted.
00:36:32.060
Fraudulently, I think that it has cropped up its head in particular congressional districts or in very, very, very tight races, which is something to worry about.
00:36:38.620
But when you claim widespread voter suppression, which has been the Democratic lie for the last several years, right, Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes.
00:36:45.480
But if it hadn't been for voter suppression in a record turnout year, then Stacey Abrams definitely would have won.
00:36:50.600
If there's violence in the streets because of that, when you have the AG of Pennsylvania literally saying there is no way for Donald Trump to win this state unless active voter suppression takes place,
00:36:59.360
what do you think the predictable result of that is going to be if Donald Trump wins the election?
00:37:02.860
And it is sad because it's not – I don't think it is the typical Democrat, the typical Democrat voter.
00:37:07.440
It is a small portion of the Democrat population egged on by these massive corporations, these massive wealthy corporations, news industry, social media, Amazon.
00:37:19.300
You know, Amazon sending me Ibram X. Kendi's book, you know, advertising his book.
00:37:23.700
You know, if you like the poetry of John Keats, you'll like it.
00:37:29.480
And the thing is it never seems to occur to our stalwart communists on the left, to AOC or anybody in the squad,
00:37:37.980
how come if we're socialists all these rich people are supporting us?
00:37:41.200
It never seems to – like a little light bulb never goes on.
00:37:44.680
I think that when you're talking about that, when you talk about, you know,
00:37:47.680
it never occurs to the socialists that the corporations are supporting them,
00:37:50.500
that I think it's the corporations who are the ones who are being short-sighted.
00:37:53.120
I think the socialists know full well that the corporations are supporting them.
00:37:55.840
And they're willing to ride that train as far as it goes until they turn around and execute everybody.
00:38:00.600
It's all fun and games until Robes Fierre takes over.
00:38:03.100
And I think that they understand that if they can get the backing of the corporate world,
00:38:06.780
they can cudgel them and back them into a corner and the corporate world goes along with them.
00:38:12.000
I mean, again, I mentioned it earlier, but the takeover of corporate America by anti-racist Ibram X. Kendi philosophy
00:38:18.940
and the takeover of the media by the same philosophy, that is scary as all hell.
00:38:24.600
Norm Perlstein, who's leaving the L.A. Times, he's the editor, and he's going to be leaving after the election.
00:38:28.220
A whole article from Ben Smith, how many members of the media are like,
00:38:30.500
if Trump loses, our job here is done because democracy dies in darkness and other such bullshit.
00:38:35.980
The basic notion that Norm Perlstein said, he said, once Trump is out of office,
00:38:42.660
They have to be more diverse and more anti-racist.
00:38:48.080
They quoted Wesley Lowry, who used to be a reporter for the Washington Post,
00:38:51.040
and who was fired because he was overtly political in his coverage of Ferguson, Missouri,
00:38:54.720
and who now says that all reporters should be overtly political in their coverage.
00:38:57.800
And he says, yeah, all of the media corporations came around to us.
00:39:00.920
I mean, that's what's scaring the living heck out of me.
00:39:02.760
And it's scary because the ordinary person who has three kids and a job...
00:39:07.160
Well, not only are they not paying attention, but even if they disagree, what do they do?
00:39:10.820
What do you do when you have to go into HR and take the anti-racist class and say, you know,
00:39:15.720
and basically mouth all this nonsense, all this racist nonsense,
00:39:19.400
and you risk losing your job if you don't do it?
00:39:24.500
That's because freedom of speech, yes, is a legal construct in the country.
00:39:29.280
Because of the First Amendment, it's the case that the government can't infringe upon your freedom of speech or freedom of expression.
00:39:35.920
But freedom of speech has also always been a mentality in the country.
00:39:39.880
We've basically been a country of people who weren't going to be told what they could think,
00:39:45.600
The problem is if you lose the mentality and all you're left with at the end of the day is the legal protection,
00:39:50.400
you've already lost because the legal protection won't hold in a society where people don't grant the actual moral premise.
00:39:56.460
This is where people like David French, with whom I profoundly disagree about this election,
00:40:00.880
but where he isn't altogether wrong when he says, for example, that character is destiny.
00:40:04.880
I think that David French and John Piper, Mitt Romney, these sort of decent men who can't let go of their sensibilities being so shattered by Donald Trump,
00:40:12.780
they try to make this argument that the character of a leader is the destiny of a country.
00:40:20.940
But I don't think that that's actually true day to day.
00:40:23.560
I think almost all national leaders have always been of dubious moral character because power corrupts, wealth corrupts, fame corrupts.
00:40:30.580
This is why even a leader after God's own heart, like David, still doesn't get to build the temple, right?
00:40:35.000
Because it's why Moses can't inherit the land of promise, because being the leader actually comes with some consequence.
00:40:42.840
Nevertheless, it is true that the character of a people is the destiny of a nation.
00:40:48.020
And so if the character of our people is no longer a character of freedom, then the destiny of our nation is not freedom.
00:40:53.920
But this is also, if I can just finish this thought, this is also why I've been so hard on the social media
00:40:59.620
and don't believe that there's any argument where you say, well, they're private businesses,
00:41:03.680
because you have to start with the idea that our right to free speech comes from God.
00:41:07.540
The First Amendment protects us from the government interfering with that God-given right,
00:41:11.740
but the government has to protect us from social media or anybody else interfering with it.
00:41:22.120
Right. You know, I remember in 2008, when Ron Paul was running for president,
00:41:26.360
people would make fun of him because every other word he would say, the Constitution, you know,
00:41:31.460
And there were memes going around the Internet where they'd say, oh, you're going to talk about my Constitution again
00:41:36.860
And the joke of that is not that we don't love the Constitution.
00:41:40.980
The joke of that is that if the people lose their knowledge of and respect for our constitutional order,
00:41:49.760
It has to be our founding fathers talked about this so much.
00:41:54.800
He said we have to revere our founding documents, our founding institutions, the men who gave us our country.
00:41:59.840
When you lose that because now the legacy media are constantly pushing us.
00:42:07.200
These fake educators, these pseudo scholars are pushing this kind of nonsense.
00:42:12.920
Then all of a sudden you look up and you realize you don't have a country.
00:42:15.760
And while we may quibble with Donald Trump on various policies, I do too, and I really like the guy,
00:42:22.500
But you've got this image of Trump hugging the American flag, and you've got the other side basically saying the country is rotten to the core.
00:42:30.200
And I will defend the First Amendment every single day of the week.
00:42:37.500
Another virtue is his visceral love of country.
00:42:39.480
Yeah, Donald Trump does love his country, and that is – I don't know that loving your country is virtuous per se.
00:42:46.780
Loving your country when your country is lovable is certainly virtuous,
00:42:49.580
and hating your country when your country is lovable is anti-virtue, right?
00:42:53.940
To hate a country as good as America is a failure of character,
00:42:58.440
and to love a country as good as America is a virtuous requirement.
00:43:04.780
It's like loving your country is like loving your mother.
00:43:06.820
You might have to have a problem with her, but she's your mom.
00:43:11.860
Love of country is an extension of your love of country.
00:43:13.300
And, of course, your country can go so far, just like your mom, your country can go so far off the boat.
00:43:17.820
You've got to toss her over the – out the train.
00:43:19.120
Well, we're not going to get into those issues.
00:43:21.880
But it is true, I think, that when you look at how attitudinally everybody approaches Election Day,
00:43:29.340
what I'm seeing from the right is, you know, a lot of nervousness about what's going to happen in the aftermath of the election.
00:43:36.620
And what I'm seeing from the left is sheer panic, the very idea that Donald Trump would be reelected.
00:43:41.680
So, you know, if Joe Biden wins, I'm going to be very concerned about the state of the country,
00:43:46.080
and then I'm going to get to work tomorrow, and I'm going to keep fighting for the values that we're all fighting for.
00:43:49.640
What you're getting from Democrats is sheer full-on panic in the same crazy hair-on-fire way
00:43:54.200
that they've been sheer full-on panicked since 2016.
00:43:57.160
I mean, let me read you this tweet from the estimable Sally Cohn.
00:44:01.660
Four years ago, I used my dog Xanax the night of the election.
00:44:07.440
That's somebody who's definitely healthy, and we should probably put in charge of policy.
00:44:12.700
I was talking with Drew about this before the show.
00:44:16.000
One of the things that I think is so indicative of the conflict that's happening right now in the country
00:44:19.380
is that the left believes that institutions are only there to be used.
00:44:24.120
They're either obstacles to utopia or they are tools in pursuit of utopia.
00:44:27.960
The right tends to believe that institutions are built in order to protect certain values,
00:44:33.180
and so we respect the Constitution because we believe that the Constitution is there
00:44:36.520
to protect the values of the Declaration of Independence.
00:44:38.600
The left believes that the Constitution is there in order to do all the things that it wants to do,
00:44:42.520
and if the Constitution doesn't do it, you just get rid of the Constitution.
00:44:45.320
And they believe this about the university system.
00:44:46.960
They believe this about the educational system.
00:44:48.260
They believe this about pretty much all about the family, the nuclear family.
00:44:51.480
If it doesn't achieve what they want it to achieve, then all of those things are dispensable.
00:44:56.740
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00:45:01.560
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00:45:05.900
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00:45:08.400
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00:45:11.640
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00:45:15.280
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00:45:16.520
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00:45:37.420
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00:45:41.420
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00:45:47.700
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00:45:54.580
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00:45:57.960
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00:46:00.680
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00:46:22.380
And if you have small children, one of the things you know is that small children are tiny suicide machines.
00:46:26.260
All they do all day long is try to kill themselves by sticking their fingers into light sockets and running into a pool.
00:46:30.980
Well, this is what – there's only one of you, but I have three children,
00:46:33.460
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00:46:37.760
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00:46:56.760
The idea of a cloned Ben Shapiro, I lost the power.
00:47:04.640
By the way, in CNN – okay, so they're having a healthy one over at CNN.
00:47:15.360
His sources are reliable, and he's very reliable himself in his sources.
00:47:18.400
So he just tweeted out, in Slack, motivational messages are bouncing back and forth.
00:47:28.440
There's nothing left to say except let's count the votes.
00:47:32.240
Brian Stelter saying, stay hydrated, to me, is uniquely comedic.
00:47:45.160
It's like Leslie Nielsen's going to pop into the cockpit and just go, we're all counting on you.
00:47:52.420
It's a product between Max Boot declaring himself a hero last night.
00:47:59.880
He tweeted out last night about how he and the never-Trumpers, like the true never-Trumpers, the people who now want you to vote for Democrats, you know, the real Republicans, the people who love conservatism so much, you should not just vote against Donald Trump.
00:48:10.440
You should actually vote actively in favor of Susan Collins, Susan Collins' opponent in Maine, right?
00:48:18.560
So he tweeted out this piece that he'd written for The Washington Post all about what an incredible hero he is.
00:48:24.940
And I want to get the wording right, so I'm going to dig for it instead of stalling for time.
00:48:28.280
So you guys talk for a second while I find Max.
00:48:29.740
Rather than that, I want to take a question from one of our DailyWire.com subscribers.
00:48:34.460
They're the people who make it possible for us to bring you this show free tonight.
00:48:37.740
We're making this free at DailyWire.com, at YouTube, at Facebook for everyone because we know, look, this is a night when you want a lot of information, you want some insight.
00:48:45.520
But it's because of our DailyWire.com members that we're able to do that.
00:48:50.620
I am here, and I will make sure that I don't throw anybody under the bus.
00:48:55.300
Michael Knowles is not that interesting in Slack.
00:48:57.480
He just talks about where he gets his cigars and where we're drinking later tonight, which, you know, depending on what happens, depends on how heavily Michael will be drinking.
00:49:04.600
But our first question from an amazing DailyWire member goes to the God King himself, Jeremy Boring.
00:49:09.960
He wants to know, do you guys think the media is going to drop the COVID stuff after this election or double on down?
00:49:18.600
I looked at a list this week of different states whose mask and COVID restriction policies expire within 10 days of the election, and it is remarkable.
00:49:29.980
A mask mandate for New York ends on the 3rd and on the 5th.
00:49:33.940
Now, some of them are realizing that they were a little too on the nose with how they situated these things, and they're racing to extend them now.
00:49:43.880
They knew what they were doing when they made these mask mandates three months ago expire on 11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6.
00:49:53.180
What magic thing was supposed to happen by 11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6?
00:49:59.440
Does that mean that COVID is exclusively political, that people don't have a legitimate health concern?
00:50:05.220
But it does mean that their primary concern, the primary concern of Democrat governors, the primary concern of Democrat mayors, has been to instill fear and to be able to blame Donald Trump for all the deaths that happened with COVID.
00:50:20.920
I think that now they've actually created a problem that they can't solve by, for example, letting these businesses be locked down for seven, eight, nine months.
00:50:28.560
Now it's going to be very hard for businesses to make people go back to work.
00:50:31.800
When they try to reopen, their employees are rightly going to say, well, why am I safe now when I wasn't safe four months ago?
00:50:39.600
In fact, if anything, cases are ticking up as we enter into the flu season, as we enter into the part of the year when viral infections are the most likely to happen, winter, when it's cold, when it's damp.
00:50:49.220
I think that they've created a lot of challenges for themselves, where now I wouldn't be surprised if COVID is essentially with us as a political issue until June.
00:50:59.660
Now, I know that Ben has an opinion about this.
00:51:03.300
He may have even spoken about it on his show today, which I do think is an important additional insight, which is how I think they've gamed the system and now they're trapped a little bit.
00:51:11.400
But Ben actually thinks that there's a way they can extricate themselves by gaming what happens next, which is the decline that will naturally happen at the end of the viral season.
00:51:20.300
This is my only prediction of the night I am fully confident of, and I'm really, really confident of this prediction.
00:51:25.460
So we know the numbers are going to go up in November.
00:51:26.840
We know the numbers are going to go up in December.
00:51:28.420
And according to basically every law of epidemiology, apparently they're going to start declining in January, February, right?
00:51:36.860
And then once it's down, one of the things people are not really paying attention to is the fact that the states where it got hit hard first time are not really getting hit hard this time.
00:51:47.180
New York and Jersey not getting hit hard right now.
00:51:54.460
And that's what you're seeing in Europe too, right?
00:51:57.060
It's actually kind of a big first wave because the harder you lock down at the beginning, the worse the wave is the second time.
00:52:02.100
So what that means is that you're going to see this thing skyrocket and continue to skyrocket, not in terms of death, but in terms of cases.
00:52:09.700
And by the way, if you follow this stuff, pay attention to deaths and hospitalizations.
00:52:13.900
Cases are an incredibly useless statistic, particularly among children.
00:52:18.320
Hundreds of thousands of cases have been diagnosed among kids.
00:52:20.400
These 121 children have died in the United States of COVID-19 out of several hundred thousand infections.
00:52:25.800
The death rates on this thing are way lower than flu for kids.
00:52:33.020
What's then going to happen is Biden will come in and he will declare a mask mandate, even though he doesn't have the constitutional power to do so, or he'll try to bully states into doing it with a variety of incentive programs.
00:52:42.600
There will be a media celebration of this as the first time that we as a country have ever taken COVID seriously.
00:52:48.300
Then the numbers, which will already be declining by January 20th, will continue to decline.
00:52:53.080
And then they will declare that the mask mandate is the reason for the decline.
00:52:55.720
It will attribute the decline to the action of Joe Biden, even though you have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with one another, because every country in Europe basically has a mask mandate and has seen a massive spike.
00:53:04.620
Nonetheless, Italy, France, Germany and all the rest.
00:53:07.820
Because they did the exact same thing with Andrew Cuomo.
00:53:09.500
The thing peaked and then Andrew Cuomo declared a mask mandate.
00:53:12.000
And then they declared it was Andrew Cuomo's stellar and intrepid leadership to the decline in New York.
00:53:16.160
So I've been I've been promising you guys so far tonight that we are going to have all kinds of surprises.
00:53:21.160
It's the biggest show that we've ever mounted here at The Daily Wire.
00:53:24.000
And the first one is upon us. The polls close in Florida in seven minutes.
00:53:28.080
We're going to start getting our first important information about the future of the country.
00:53:31.440
And here to walk us through what that might look like is the governor of Florida himself, a man who, while only one year older than me, is far more successful and slightly less handsome.
00:53:41.680
Governor Ron DeSantis, thank you for joining us.
00:53:45.860
And just for the record, polls in the eastern time zone close at seven.
00:53:51.600
The panhandle is seven central, so they will continue to go until 8 p.m.
00:53:57.960
Remember, back in 2000, all the networks forgot about that.
00:54:01.480
And they made a big mistake by calling Florida for Al Gore before the panhandle had even closed.
00:54:09.160
And if you're in line, your vote will be taken.
00:54:10.900
So stay in line if you're in the panhandle and waiting in line to vote.
00:54:13.860
Also, Governor DeSantis, welcome me to your state.
00:54:16.420
So I'm now a resident of your fantastic state, and I will say, your state is far superior to the state in which I currently sit.
00:54:24.040
It has better women because my wife is there right now.
00:54:28.600
I have to say, it is nice to live in a state where they have decided not to lock down every single thing in the state.
00:54:35.620
I tried to go to the gym this morning in L.A., and the hotel was completely empty.
00:54:39.460
Like, there was no one in the entire hotel, and they had locked the gym thanks to Governor Gavin Newsom.
00:54:44.920
So should we start by talking about election politics with Governor DeSantis, or should we start with COVID stuff?
00:54:50.340
Yeah, no, I think that, well, one, just in terms of the election, have you registered to vote in Florida?
00:54:59.420
Well, it's interesting because, you know, what we're seeing, and I think one of the things for you guys to just remind your viewers of,
00:55:05.920
when Florida reports results, the first dump of votes will be the absentee mail votes and the early votes.
00:55:13.020
And the Democrats had a huge migration away from in-person voting towards the mail.
00:55:18.840
So we usually, Republicans would usually beat Democrats and vote by mail.
00:55:22.980
They would usually beat Republicans in in-person early voting.
00:55:30.160
Republicans actually did very well in early voting.
00:55:32.520
We still had a deficit going into Election Day.
00:55:35.320
It was about 108,000 more Democrat ballots than Republican ballots had been cast.
00:55:40.740
But now what we've seen so far on Election Day, we're at about, so we, we, Republicans erased that advantage by about 930 in the morning.
00:55:49.920
And now there's been 220,000 more Republican ballots cast than Democrat ballots.
00:55:57.240
Obviously, with the panhandle still voting, we think that that will increase even more.
00:56:01.000
And just to compare that, in 2016, when Donald Trump won Florida, he had about a 65,000 ballot advantage, R over D.
00:56:09.920
And so he's going to be in a much better position.
00:56:13.940
And as we, you know, when you look Florida historically, you know, absent strange circumstances, you typically have the Republican nominee get 90 plus percent of Republicans.
00:56:23.440
And the Democrat typically gets a point or two less in terms of holding the Democrats.
00:56:29.140
Part of that is because we have ancestral Democrats who vote Republican in federal races still.
00:56:34.400
So looking at him going into this, you know, I got to think he's in a stronger position.
00:56:39.100
If you look at the turnout in Miami-Dade County, the president lost by 30 points in 2016.
00:56:46.640
I would say I told him if you could just cut it to 20, that's like 50,000, 60,000 votes swing.
00:56:54.280
What I'm hearing is it's going to be less than 20 point margin.
00:56:58.140
He has a chance to get it into 10 to 12 point margin.
00:57:03.320
But the turnout has been really, really good for Republicans.
00:57:08.460
And, you know, the way these races in Florida go is, you know, Democrats have those three really strong counties in southern Florida.
00:57:16.700
And smart candidates on the Republican side don't ignore him.
00:57:19.980
You go down there and you try to reduce the margin.
00:57:22.300
And I think the president's done that in Miami-Dade County.
00:57:28.780
Well, obviously, he does need to win the state of Florida in order to retain the presidency.
00:57:31.900
If it goes the other way, it'll be an early night.
00:57:33.980
So you're talking about the timing and how fast the votes are tabulated.
00:57:36.860
So if we're watching tonight, what time do you think the votes are going to be all into the point where you're going to start seeing people call the state?
00:57:44.500
So what will happen is once the polls close, you'll get the initial dump of the early and absentee ballots.
00:57:53.220
And then you'll start to get the precincts reporting with Election Day votes.
00:57:57.220
So that's just a process that will take, you know, a couple hours.
00:58:00.520
So I think best case scenario, you're looking at nine, between nine and 10.
00:58:05.900
But I definitely think we're going to be able to make the call no later than that 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock hour.
00:58:14.200
Look, I think things are looking favorable for the president.
00:58:16.580
Does he win a typical Florida victory, you know, 80,000 votes?
00:58:20.260
Or with this ballot advantage and strength that he'll have today with in-person voting, you know, does he does he win by 250,000?
00:58:31.060
Obviously, if it's the latter, we're going to be able to determine that, you know, closer to 9 p.m. and 11 p.m.
00:58:37.800
Governor, do Floridians count Donald Trump as one of their own?
00:58:40.620
Obviously, he he lives in the state a great deal of the time.
00:58:43.300
Mar-a-Lago, such a beautiful, such a beautiful location there in Palm Beach.
00:58:50.360
I think that they do see a connection with Florida.
00:58:56.060
He goes down here in the winter and has been doing that for a long time.
00:58:59.520
He's also been very smart in tending to Florida issues.
00:59:03.780
Now, part of it's because I call him and bug him to do certain things.
00:59:06.920
But, I mean, we have certain issues here, like, you know, our water resources.
00:59:11.340
We're big fishing, boating state, our Everglades restoration.
00:59:14.640
Some of the military bases that he's helped save.
00:59:18.780
One of them was in the Panhandle Pope Air Force Base.
00:59:23.540
We have a huge space renaissance on the Space Coast of Florida right now, Cape Canaveral area.
00:59:29.040
So I think he's done a good job of tending to Florida issues.
00:59:31.700
He's also been good on supporting democracy in Latin America, which is very important to a lot of our residents in southern Florida.
00:59:39.960
So I think that, yes, they count them, but I think what he's done is he's really done things that resonate with Floridians in a way that, you know, like a Biden just wouldn't do without having that connection.
00:59:56.800
But at the same time, our state's always in flux.
01:00:03.120
Being a lifelong Floridian doesn't get you as much as, say, if you were a lifelong, you know, resident of some of the other states that have a little bit more stable populations.
01:00:15.460
You've been the best governor in the country in dealing with the COVID crisis.
01:00:18.600
Can you tell us just briefly a little bit about your philosophy on how to handle COVID, why you've done, why you've been able to preserve liberty in your state in a way that many governors haven't been able to, and when you're going to run for president and when we can vote for you?
01:00:31.920
So, you know, March, there was a lot we were still learning.
01:00:35.780
I mean, I thought it was pretty clear by mid-March that this had a disproportionate effect on elderly.
01:00:40.940
So we focused a lot of our efforts on the nursing homes.
01:00:46.680
We didn't necessarily have all the testing supplies at that point.
01:00:50.260
We did the 15 days to slow the spread and kind of just followed the president's coronavirus task force.
01:00:56.420
But then what you started to see in April were these serological studies to show that for every documented case, there was 10 times as many actual infections, which meant a couple things.
01:01:07.340
One, it meant that the lethality of this was less than we thought.
01:01:11.040
And, in fact, if you look under the age of 50, the survival rate is 99.98 percent per CDC analysis.
01:01:21.680
And then we all – but it also means that it's much more prevalent than we thought.
01:01:25.140
You know, we thought in March there would – maybe there's a COVID case in this county or three cases.
01:01:30.940
It turns out that this was something that a lot of the people that had had didn't develop significant symptoms.
01:01:38.720
So for me, you know, I thought at that point it made sense that we needed to make sure we opened the state and move forward in that.
01:01:46.080
We did it deliberately, but we were resolute in doing it.
01:01:48.740
And I think what we've been able to see is the areas – look at what's happening in Europe.
01:01:53.540
You know, you had a lot of harsh mandates, lockdowns.
01:01:58.580
But really, they just had a seasonal respite, and now it's coming back.
01:02:02.420
And so I think you're better off with an age-specific strategy focusing on support for our most vulnerable residents but having society function.
01:02:12.440
So, for example, in Florida, all 67 counties, we have school open for in-person, school districts, charter schools, private schools.
01:02:21.660
In fact, of the 10 most populous school districts in the country, five are in Florida, all open.
01:02:28.820
The other five, New York City, they have about 10 percent of the kids in person.
01:02:38.360
Houston, I think, has just started getting kids back.
01:02:41.220
And I think what's been frustrating on this is, one, it's been very political because they wanted to use it against the president.
01:02:49.720
But just the lack of fidelity to data and evidence.
01:02:54.120
I mean, on schools, it was very clear by May that schools needed to open in the fall.
01:02:59.320
You had studies done in Europe which were conclusive, and there was literally no countervailing evidence.
01:03:05.620
And so we pushed forward with doing that in July, saying parents have a right to send their kids to school.
01:03:11.260
If you don't want to do it, you want to do distance, fine, but we have to do it.
01:03:14.800
Oh, my gosh, the people were complaining, all this other stuff.
01:03:18.620
Sure enough, we've gone into school, and the parents that opted for distance learning, a lot of them are itching to get the kid back in person.
01:03:26.220
Very few parents that opted for in person are trying to get their kid into distance learning.
01:03:31.680
But we knew that, obviously, the kids were not significant risk for this, certainly less than flu.
01:03:37.860
But we also knew they weren't significant spread for the vectors in the community.
01:03:42.880
And, Fred, we have not had a single example of a student infecting a teacher.
01:03:46.580
And I don't think very many states or countries have very many examples of that as well.
01:03:51.580
So I just think that the data, focusing on the data, understanding that just from a health perspective, one virus is not the sum total of everything involving health.
01:04:02.380
I mean, when you start having a myopic focus on just coronavirus at all costs, you cause problems with mental health, you cause problems with other ailments.
01:04:12.260
I mean, we had people so scared in this country that they would literally be having heart attacks at home, but they wouldn't go into the emergency department because they thought they were going to get corona and die from that.
01:04:23.380
And that's just basically fear that was whipped up by the media irresponsibly.
01:04:27.920
So we focused on mental health, focus on helping people who are abusing drugs, focusing on getting people into the hospital.
01:04:35.800
I mean, the thing about that started all this, remember that the hospitals were somehow going to be overrun.
01:04:41.080
There's not been any hospital system in the country.
01:04:48.980
And I can tell you at Florida's peak, we had about 9,600 COVID positive patients in Florida hospitals, but we have 65,000 licensed hospital beds.
01:05:03.340
And the fact that that's the case, it really should inform how you do this.
01:05:08.480
And so I think we're in a situation now where we have, obviously, businesses open, schools open, and really trusting people to make decisions about, you know, the environments that they're comfortable being in.
01:05:21.100
But I think what we found is the more and more we've returned to normal, I think the more and more people appreciate it.
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Well, Governor DeSantis, really appreciate your time.
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And frankly, look forward to getting out of this hellhole and getting back to your wonderful state over the next couple of days.
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And look forward to seeing you in person there.
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Governor Ron DeSantis from the great state of Florida, one of the states that will have the most impact on what happens as the night goes through.
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You heard him say, importantly, that while the polls closed in the eastern time zone in Florida five minutes ago, the polls do not close in the panhandle until an hour from now.
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And if you're standing in line in Florida, you will still get in to vote.
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Don't forfeit your right to register your choice in this election.
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And that's something I've actually been harping on a lot on Twitter.
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A lot of my friends will say, I voted for Donald Trump.
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When you voted for him, who'd you vote for for congressman?
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It comes from the Latin votum, which means get off your sorry ass and go register your choice on a ballot.
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But as in, I like Donald Trump, I shall go and vote him for him in Latin.
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So please, if you're in line in Florida, stay in line in Florida.
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If you're in line anywhere in the country when your polling place closes, stay where you are.
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Can I just comment for just a minute on the governor, what the stuff he was saying, just from a kind of sensory point of view?
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I have been listening to the left talk about Donald Trump.
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And I keep thinking, gosh, these people sound like children.
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You know, I mean, am I just hearing this kind of toddler logic where Donald Trump is the big man, so he must be spreading the disease?
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The sound of that guy was so adult and so rational.
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And the words coming out of his mouth made so much sense that I thought, no, they actually are children.
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Honestly, they have a cult like religious fervor around Trump.
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And they've made this clear that Trump is the devil.
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Trump is this sort of cloud that follows pig pen around in the Peanuts comic.
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And if you get rid of Trump, then COVID magically goes away.
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That's why over the last 48 hours, 72 hours, Joe Biden's final pitch was, I'm not really kidding, that he was going to be your parent, the pope, if you're like Michael, or God.
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He literally said that if he's elected, he will treat you like members of his family.
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And I thought, excellent, I can now pick up bags of cash in Ukraine and China.
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He also suggested that he was going to save our collective soul, which is, if I have to hear that crap from one more politician, that he's going to save my soul.
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The 78-year-old geriatric, can't-put-a-sentence-together, lifelong, corrupt bureaucrat who shifted every major position he ever held, including one where he used to be pro-life to pro-choice.
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And then his final pitch was that he was going to crush the virus, right?
01:08:26.660
And I thought to myself, this is Captain Moonshot to kill cancer, as though people aren't trying to kill cancer.
01:08:31.320
Like, the enormous religious faith that is invested in the power of government by so many people on the left is sickening.
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I mean, the census is saying something perfectly obvious.
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All you can do is deal with it and protect the most vulnerable.
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That used to be how we all dealt with medical problems, was it not?
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But the reason why, of course, is that everybody's got to serve somebody.
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So you'll always hear the left talk about religious kooks.
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The left, which believes that babies aren't human and believes that men can be women and believes the world is going to end in 10 years.
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So you do have a natural religious longing, and you put it on this guy.
01:09:04.920
I mean, this has been going on for a very long time in this country.
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And most recently, I guess, Barack Obama, who said that the earth would heal and the oceans would lower if you elect him.
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Michelle said he was going to take out our heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh, basically.
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You know, the statement that Biden made that I thought was most shocking in a campaign of shocking and mostly incomprehensible statements was when he came out and he said that if I had been president, 220,000 Americans would be alive, that no one would have died, that America, unlike every other country on earth, would have no deaths from the virus.
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And if you believe that, then Donald Trump really must be the virus.
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I wish that President Trump had asked Biden, hey, Joe, if you've been president, can you give me a number?
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You would have gotten the crappy sound by, not nearly as many has died under you, but that's not the answer, right?
01:10:04.140
So the early polls on the East Coast are starting to close.
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I want to go to our Daily Wire election war room where Alicia and John Bickley are going to give us a little bit of analysis about what we can expect next.
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Some of those states have already been called, unsurprisingly, of course, Vermont and Virginia going to Biden and Harris.
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And here for a breakdown of what we need to be looking for in Florida is the Daily Wire's own Ian Howarth.
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What's the lay of the land in Florida, 2016 versus 2020, laid out there for us?
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So people, when they think about Florida, they think of a few things.
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It took a month of legal wrangling to sort that mess out.
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2012, they were the only state to actually decide by under 1% between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.
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People think about Florida as like MAGA country.
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Because it's really also, as I spoke with Cabot earlier, it's one of the crucial states that Trump just simply has to win if he wants to have a hope.
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So what parts of the state should we be paying attention to?
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So I think we should keep an eye on the panhandle, the north of the state, because he has to have a big turnout there.
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I think given the parades we see, those boat parades, I went in a boat parade.
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So we need to then be focusing on the bluer areas towards Miami-Dade, Broward County.
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Those are counties where Hillary Clinton won by almost 300,000 votes in each county.
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So Democrats will be hoping for a huge vote to turn out there.
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It's actually been kind of interesting in terms of turnout.
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Early polls suggested that the Republicans were actually having better turnout proportionally compared to Democrats.
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But other polls are coming in and saying that Democrats are actually outpacing Republicans as the day went on.
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And then also in 2016, Donald Trump was able to outperform even the polls of what they thought he might get in the Cuban-American community.
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Could that help him make up some of those pretty liberal places?
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Because Cuban-Americans tend to reside in that Palm Beach, Dade County, Miami area.
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Yeah, I think this will be a huge community that he'll be certainly looking at quite closely.
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In 2016, he got between 50% and 54% of the Cuban-American vote.
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This year, some polls suggest it's actually going to be near 60%.
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If that's true, that's going to be a huge deal for Trump.
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If it's not true, then he's going to really have to pull some votes out of somewhere.
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Okay, so we will be continuing to bring all of y'all the information as people are calling states and polls are closing everywhere.
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A lot of people are paying attention to the trend of Florida, though,
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because if President Trump and Mike Pence can't pull it out in Florida, you know,
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their pathway to victory just continues to get smaller and smaller.
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So when we have more updates, we'll be bringing those to all of y'all.
01:12:53.860
So I've been telling you guys all night that we were going to have some big announcements tonight,
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and they're all focused on the exact same issue, which is that we have to replace the media.
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You have this establishment media in this country in connection, in conjunction with social media in this country,
01:13:10.040
deciding what kind of stories you get to hear and what kind of stories you don't,
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what kind of expression you get to have and what kind of expression you don't.
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And I don't think we've done enough to communicate the scope of the problem.
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They do over $100 million of profit every year.
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You want to know why conservatives aren't great at investigative journalism.
01:13:46.020
You want to know why conservatives are at such a disadvantage when it comes to subjecting the left
01:13:50.760
to the kind of scrutiny that the left subjects us to.
01:13:53.220
That's because the New York Times is only one piece of the establishment media juggernaut.
01:13:59.380
There is nothing like that that exists on the right.
01:14:01.800
Now, you might say, right, but you're saying there's nothing like it on the right.
01:14:10.520
There's more diversity of opinion at the Daily Wire about Donald Trump than there is in the entire 4,500-person staff of the New York Times,
01:14:19.180
where there is no diversity of opinion about Donald Trump.
01:14:22.480
Name one single prominent pro-Trump Republican conservative voice at the New York Times.
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The way that we're going to deal with that is to replace them.
01:14:46.460
You know that some of the money of your cable bill goes to CNN, whether you watch CNN or not.
01:14:50.180
Some of the money you pay for cable goes to MSNBC, whether you watch MSNBC or not,
01:14:54.580
because of carriage fees, you are funding the left as they try to take your freedoms away from you.
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The only way we're going to stop that is to replace them.
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And to replace them, we on our side of the ideological divide have to up our game.
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Part of that means we have to get out and lead, and part of it means we need you to follow.
01:15:12.580
So Daily Wire is going to start taking the lead in this fight in ways that we have not before.
01:15:18.840
We have a ton of huge announcements coming for you tonight.
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And the first one is going to come courtesy of our guest, Candace Owens.
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Candace is the founder of the Blexit Foundation.
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Candace is the host of the Candace Owens Show for PragerU.
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She's one of the most important, not only political, but I would say cultural voices in the country today.
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She's beaming in from Washington, D.C., because I'm just going to be honest with you,
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because she moves all over the world all the time.
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She's busy doing the work of not just commenting on culture, but creating culture and changing culture.
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So we're hearing reports right now about rioting taking place in Washington, D.C.
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But I will tell you, just leading up to this, the last couple of days, watching all the boarding going up.
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On a lot of these stores and on these boards, they're actually writing, we support Black Lives Matter.
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And you have to ask yourself, why would a business owner first board up his business and then write, we support Black Lives Matter?
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It's because they recognize that it is Black Lives Matter.
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And I actually have a friend who runs a gym, and he tells me that he puts a sign in his window that says, we support Black Lives Matter.
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And I know he does not support Black Lives Matter.
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But he does that because today, that for business owners is like putting up, like, Sloan's shield, you know?
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And it's very sad that we've gotten to this point.
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And then just getting to this studio, I don't live too far from the studio.
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It took 30 minutes because of street closures, because of riots.
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I mean, the left is ready to go, and they've been planning this for months and months.
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And my question, I guess, that I would ask is, how come the FBI hasn't been able to shut down this cell?
01:17:22.580
How are they bringing in U-Hauls and metal bats and all of these things of this nature?
01:17:27.220
So it's incredibly frustrating that it's come to this point.
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We should have been able to suspect this and to guard against it.
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We just know that we're going to expect a lot later on in the night.
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Yeah, it's really remarkable that, to your point, that the FBI hasn't been able to get on top of that.
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And I kind of want to kick that around and have it as a discussion with the five of us.
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Is the reason, I mean, obviously one reason is that free speech is sacred in this country.
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And so you expect our law enforcement to get the maximum latitude possible, right?
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You want them to err on the side of letting people overexpress and not underexpress.
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But given what we've seen in the country in the wake of the George Floyd killing,
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given what we've seen in the CHAS chop zone in Seattle, the constant burning of Portland,
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the burning of Minneapolis, it's been going on for months and months.
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Why is it that the federal law enforcement hasn't been more proactive in cracking down on this?
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It's a really good question, because when Donald Trump announced that he was going to enforce the law
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against pulling over statues and vandalism, that largely stopped.
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That was a big movement and it largely went away.
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And, you know, the FBI sent out something like a dozen agents to investigate what turned out to be a hoax attack
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on a black NASCAR driver as if there was some major civil rights problem there, which there wasn't.
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And yet they can't seem to infiltrate or at least start to discourage these people.
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I have faith that the FBI is on it, that they're looking at it.
01:19:01.500
Yeah, Michael, is it is it is it that they're complicit?
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Is it a deep space, deep state conspiracy against the president?
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Or is it strategic on the part of the president?
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I've talked to friends of mine who are in the administration who have worked at some of these various swamp agencies in the deep state.
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And you can go agency by agency and know their ideological leanings.
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Now, you might say agencies aren't supposed to have ideological leanings, but they do.
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And we've we always joke about the State Department, for instance, is always pretty far left.
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FBI, CIA, all the all the various alphabet agencies.
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And they have consistently undermined the president.
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And part of this, by the way, might not be some nefarious tinfoil hat conspiracy.
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Part of this is that people at those agencies just happen to share the views of Black Lives Matter or Antifa or of the Democratic Party.
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I guess they're basically all the same thing now.
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And so it's very difficult to root that out because the president gets elected.
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He's there for four years or hopefully eight years.
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Do you know how many people are employed by the Department of Homeland Security?
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That's the tip of the iceberg on this on this federal bureaucracy.
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Honestly, I find it a less interesting question as to what because you can speculate all day as to what closed agencies are doing behind closed doors.
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Like I have no clue and I'm not going to pretend I have a clue.
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What I find a lot more troubling is the fact that the entire media and Democratic Party apparatus continue to cover for this bull crap and then suggest that we're wrong for even wanting to ask questions about it.
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That if you if you even question whether Black Lives Matter has violent connections and why so many of these protests turn into riots, this this is because you are not sufficiently anti-racist or you have Joe Biden suggesting that Antifa is a philosophy rather than actual group.
01:20:49.440
I mean, that's that's more troubling considering we're in an election year.
01:20:52.220
I mean, the politicization of the of the intelligence agencies has been an ongoing issue.
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But having a party overtly embrace this crap, I think, is a much, much bigger issue.
01:21:00.280
I know Candace has talked about that at length.
01:21:01.480
Yeah. Candace, listen, one of the things we love about you at The Daily Wire is that you're a cultural figure.
01:21:08.440
And I know that only talking to you about race issues is actually a waste of of your insight.
01:21:13.300
But I do think it's important in this particular election to talk about the work that you've done with Blexit.
01:21:18.240
There's a lot of talk, especially on the right, about how we might see a major swing in not only the black men in particular voting for the president,
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but also the Hispanic population, something that Ben has observed firsthand happening down in Florida.
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You probably have your your finger on the temperature of that movement more than anybody else in the country.
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What do you think happens tonight? Are we going to see something historic?
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Are we going to see something different than what we've seen in the past?
01:21:44.320
Absolutely. And so first off, I will say how remarkable is it to consider that over the last four years, the left could not have harped on race harder?
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I mean, how many times if we actually had a ticker like we have a covid-19 death ticker, if we had a racism ticker on CNN and MSNBC every time they said the word racist, what would the number be?
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Seriously, I mean, it's a hard question. Right. And yet, despite that, despite that, they are acknowledging that black American support is shifting towards Republican Party, is shifting towards President Trump.
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That's a very dangerous spot for Democrats to be in, of course, because they cannot.
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They have to at least get eighty five percent of the black votes to stay in their party.
01:22:21.900
And and I've always felt I instantly said in 2020, I think Trump can get 20 points.
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And people thought that was a pipe dream and it was never a pipe dream.
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It was just so obvious. You just needed somebody to actually communicate to black Americans in a cultural manner, which is what I've tried to do.
01:22:36.720
What is actually going on? We've been married to this party for 70 years and nothing has changed.
01:22:41.880
And the problem is, I think, Republican Party for a really long time, it's almost like they're suffering PTSD.
01:22:47.600
You guys have been called racist for so long that, you know, when now when somebody calls you racist, you just let them shut down the conversation.
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And it needed to be somebody like Donald Trump, because he's the only person I know that he gets called racist and he doubles down on whatever it is he said.
01:23:01.120
Right. Black America, what do you have to lose? Remember, they all freaked out and said, oh, my goodness, how could he possibly say that?
01:23:06.740
It's so racist. And now it's his favorite thing to say in front of minority crowds.
01:23:10.560
Black America, I asked you in 2016, what do you have to lose? And clearly the answer was nothing.
01:23:16.020
I did see an article two days ago, which made me really happy about black men between the ages of 25 and 35.
01:23:22.000
They're already calling them chauvinists. They're saying the reason the reason they're getting behind Trump is because they're chauvinists.
01:23:28.960
So black men, welcome to the Republican Party when you kind of just collect the sexist misogynist.
01:23:35.500
I say it's like a game of Pokemon. I've got to catch them all.
01:23:38.740
I didn't expect to get the white supremacist one. I got that one randomly in a news article.
01:23:43.820
I'm really winning the leftist Pokemon game. But yeah, so they the polls a couple of weeks ago said eight percent black support on moves.
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And I was like, you have got to be kidding me. Now they're saying 14 percent.
01:23:56.180
And I think it's going to be a little bit higher, which is going to be it's going to be a game changer.
01:24:00.360
It's going to be the first opportunity for the Republican Party to win back the black vote.
01:24:05.480
Well, if that does happen, you're going to be one of the most important people in the country because you, more than any other person other than the president himself, have devoted so much of your attention to that issue.
01:24:14.440
I do think we have to give some credit to the president on this as well is his I don't like to use terms like outreach to the black community.
01:24:21.280
I mean, you're talking about Americans outreach. It's absurd.
01:24:24.540
But what Donald Trump has done that I think Republicans have been afraid to do in the past is he actually just talks to people who might hate him.
01:24:31.840
And I think he's able to do that because so many people hate him.
01:24:34.300
He's actually he's actually comfortable in environments where people aren't kind to him because he's accustomed, even just being a builder in New York, probably his entire life.
01:24:43.480
He's been talking to people who don't necessarily like him and trying to find common cause with them.
01:24:49.520
I mean, when you talk about communities in the United States who have just gotten both from politicians for decades.
01:24:54.340
Yeah. And the black community in the United States has gotten both from politicians literally since the beginnings of the country.
01:24:59.960
And Donald Trump, when he talks to people, there's not tons of bullshit.
01:25:03.460
I mean, and cutting through it and speaking the way that he does, I think, actually translates really well.
01:25:07.500
The non-politician aspect of Trump speaks very differently than the same typical political speak that you get from every other politician who gets in front of that crowd.
01:25:14.180
And so does what Candace mentioned, his his thick skin, which is part of some of the things that maybe we dislike about him sometimes.
01:25:21.440
But it's also one of the reasons he is where he is.
01:25:29.500
Think of how the corporate power of the legacy media.
01:25:32.340
And this guy has been standing up against them all by his lonesome for four years.
01:25:37.500
And he is just kind of eating it up and spit it out.
01:25:40.500
And this is the hardest thing, because America is a country that has reckoned with its historic racism.
01:25:48.420
And the left has used that to batter people into submission.
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And only Trump's turtle shell of a skin could withstand it.
01:25:57.460
You saw it just the other day with Chelsea Handler, right?
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When I don't know how President Trump is doing among the black community, but he's totally killing it among the rap community.
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And so 50 Cent comes out and says, yeah, OK, I like Trump.
01:26:10.780
And Chelsea Handler said, I couldn't believe the words came out of her mouth.
01:26:13.480
She said, I had to remind him that he was a black man.
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And then she also offered him some sort of favors if he voted for Biden.
01:26:26.820
Could you imagine a political coalition 10 years ago, five years ago, where you've got an Amish parade and a rapper parade going on side by side?
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I mean, I can imagine a political coalition with an Orthodox Jew and a platinum bestselling rapper in the same coalition for Donald Trump and in this room.
01:26:47.160
One of the things I love about our team here at The Daily Wire is just how different we all are.
01:26:50.960
And yet we have this kind of community that I think other publications don't like.
01:26:54.840
It's actually, you know, when we were planning this show, we thought, well, we want to do as good a job as, say, Fox News at bringing people information.
01:27:03.480
And now I don't want to, you know, they can go down to the precinct level.
01:27:06.200
So I don't want to say that we fully succeeded at that.
01:27:09.620
We're going to bring people the best, deepest, most up-to-date information that we can through the night.
01:27:13.780
But we also want to really focus on what makes us us, what makes us unique, what makes us other than cable news.
01:27:21.860
We're having conversation that might be a little unorthodox, things that you may not be able to get away with saying on cable, things that advertisers might boycott you over.
01:27:29.300
But part of that is because there's so much about us as a group that is unique.
01:27:38.760
You've got Drew, who's documented his conversion from sort of secular Judaism to faithful Christianity.
01:27:45.720
You have Michael Knowles, who we all remember when he wasn't Catholic, but now he's a fairy.
01:27:53.600
More Catholic than the Pope doesn't mean what it used to be.
01:27:58.040
I'm essentially a Protestant cult leader when you really get into my personal list.
01:28:04.440
But you see some of this, too, not just on the religious side, not just on the political side.
01:28:08.700
You have Candace, who's actually quite close to the president.
01:28:11.680
You have Ben and I, who were major Trump skeptics in 2016.
01:28:14.840
You have the two of you who supported the president in 2016.
01:28:17.620
You have Michael, who not only supports—you have Michael, who actually just wishes that he was as successful as Candace at being friends with the president.
01:28:31.760
And that we're not afraid to engage in these ideas in a way that's friendly.
01:28:35.940
And one thing that Candace has that none of us have that I think is an important part of that is an actual foothold in the culture.
01:28:41.880
So, you know, somebody told me this week that I'm not famous.
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And it kind of hurt my feelings because I'm at least like a P-list Internet celebrity.
01:28:54.960
We've done these market surveys that where Ben—I'll brag on you for a minute.
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Where Ben's the most famous conservative in the country in terms of social engagement.
01:29:03.400
He's higher than like the entire primetime Fox.
01:29:06.420
Candace is something—Candace, you're something that none of us are, which is not—it's not famous.
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You've actually managed to become a cultural figure in a way that in my lifetime, no conservative—
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no one who—let's say it differently—no one who started in the political sphere as a conservative pundit has been able to cross over into being a political celebrity.
01:29:27.780
You have people who've moved the other direction, people who were like—they used to have a big acting career, and then the parts stopped coming in, and then they realized they could talk about politics.
01:29:35.840
They used to be reality TV stars, and then they became president.
01:29:37.620
Yeah, for instance, it's an important—for example.
01:29:41.280
You've uniquely been able to cross that bridge the other way.
01:29:45.880
I mean, you kind of live a life that the rest of us will probably never get to live.
01:29:50.080
How are you received when you—and you don't have to name names—but how are you received behind the scenes when you deal with other people who are sort of cultural celebrities?
01:29:58.300
Is there more support out there than it seems like there is?
01:30:03.620
Everything that I did was much more strategic than people really gave me credit for.
01:30:07.860
I mean, I had to sort of sit down, and when I had, you know, my come-to moment, when I was like I lived my entire life as a lie.
01:30:13.700
I bought into the Democrat propaganda, the education system propaganda, and I emerged as a person who graduated high school and genuinely believed that Republicans were racist, that conservatives were racist.
01:30:24.160
I'm a pretty smart girl, so this stuff—it wasn't something that I came up with on my own.
01:30:29.860
And so when I wanted to, you know, kind of dabble into politics, the first thing I asked myself is how did the left do this to me?
01:30:36.040
And I wanted to intentionally, with intention, reverse engineer exactly what it was that deluded me to begin with.
01:30:45.960
And Republicans and conservatives had just given up on culture.
01:30:49.500
Virtually everything you see—and you sort of hit at this earlier, Jeremy—but everything you see on TV is done at the expense of conservatives.
01:30:56.320
And I think for that reason, a lot of conservatives began to stick up their nose to culture and say, OK, we're just not going to do culture.
01:31:03.940
And I thought to myself, we have to be both, actually.
01:31:15.500
I know Ben doesn't like rap music, but I get why some people like rap music.
01:31:22.820
In fact, I can take the lyrics of others and translate them in a way no one would have thought possible.
01:31:30.200
I will say, rap, Daily Wire edition is—it should be able to dial a little better on iTunes.
01:31:37.580
One of the things you said to me recently, Candice, that I found really interesting, you said,
01:31:40.800
I don't want people to know if I'm about to run for president or to drop a rap album.
01:31:45.360
I do think that volatility is part of what gives you the ability to do the things that you do.
01:31:50.980
By volatility, I mean that people don't know what to expect, right?
01:31:55.160
And that's exactly how I feel because I love so much of it.
01:31:57.720
And I think that both of it is really important.
01:31:59.860
And I think Andrew Breitbart was right years ago when he said politics is downstream from culture.
01:32:04.040
And we have to make sure that we're sort of connecting that.
01:32:09.180
And I will say, to answer your earlier question, behind closed doors, it is incredible.
01:32:13.940
I mean, I wish I could publish a list of the A-list celebrities that I'm in communication with all around the world.
01:32:23.400
In England, you would just be shocked and go, oh, my goodness, we're all really doing something.
01:32:44.440
And I think that because I've been sort of in between, they feel comfortable reaching out to me to have these sort of private meetings behind closed doors.
01:32:51.180
And I wish more of them would come out, you know, ahead of ahead of today.
01:32:55.720
But I think you're going to expect a lot more A-listers after tonight is decided to come out in the next few months and really say what they believe.
01:33:04.040
And the only thing that would make it cooler is if you did it with us.
01:33:22.320
I said if any woman were going to be invited, it's you.
01:33:25.680
I think 100 percent I will take you up on that offer if my slogan can be feelings don't care about your facts.
01:33:45.920
I think there is a lot of stuff we could do together.
01:33:48.420
Should we make it official on Election Night America?
01:34:00.380
This is the most formal way, by the way, Jeremy's ever done business.
01:34:03.420
Usually it's just over, like, three drinks at a bar.
01:34:05.620
But at least now he'll do it in a casual conversation.
01:34:10.780
I've been lobbying for this for many, many years, Candace.
01:34:21.240
This might be bigger than the results that come in.
01:34:27.840
Well, this is – see, I told you we were going to break some news tonight.
01:34:31.180
Candace is going to make the move with us to Nashville.
01:34:33.440
And, Candace, I don't want to tell people too much about what we're working on.
01:34:38.420
Well, I mean, it's no more of a joke than everything else we do.
01:34:43.700
Candace and I have been collaborating about this behind the scenes.
01:34:46.260
It will be unlike – not only unlike anything that's happened at the Daily Wire, I think
01:34:49.220
truly different in kind from anything that's ever happened in conservative new media.
01:34:54.060
We're not going to give you too many details because it's going to – we want it to be
01:35:00.180
It's going to be shot in front of a live studio audience in Nashville, and you're going to be able
01:35:06.760
Candace, we couldn't be more excited to have you on the team.
01:35:13.120
I've been saying for years at Conservatives, we're all doing different things.
01:35:16.100
We need to all come together under the same umbrella and just fight back for culture.
01:35:28.020
We're bigger than all of MSNBC, but we're not united, and it's high time.
01:35:34.400
I wish we could unveil more about what we've been working on.
01:35:41.640
Well, thank you so much for making time for us tonight.
01:35:45.460
You're probably invited to all kinds of parties that we'll never be invited to.
01:35:48.880
Let's hope that we're able to lift a glass later tonight and celebrate a huge Trump victory,
01:35:54.340
and we'll be telling people more and more about what we're working on together over the coming weeks.
01:36:07.860
So that is the first of our big announcements for the night.
01:36:10.400
Candace Owens moving to Nashville, joining the Daily Wire.
01:36:15.600
That doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of investigative journalism.
01:36:20.580
It doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of cultural commentary.
01:36:26.100
We have to make the kinds of shows that they make.
01:36:32.360
We have to engage in a broad swath of content that reaches people where they are,
01:36:37.560
and that's what we're going to be doing both with Candace
01:36:40.180
and in some other exciting announcements that we'll be making for you as the night goes on.
01:36:44.480
But right now, the polls have been closed on the East Coast for 37 minutes.
01:36:47.980
We know you're looking for an update on what's happening.
01:36:50.660
We are going to kick it to Elisha Krause in the Daily Wire election war room.
01:36:54.980
Hopefully, they're going to be able to walk us through some of what's been going on while we've been busy celebrating ourselves
01:36:59.320
and celebrating our newest addition in Candace Owens, who, again, pointed this out.
01:37:05.800
I think it's important that you know, not a joke.
01:37:08.780
Candace is actually joining us in Nashville for what is going to be just a truly, I mean,
01:37:14.380
revolutionary kind of change in the kind of content that you can come to expect in conservative media.
01:37:20.620
And, best of all, only one of the huge announcements that we have for you tonight.
01:37:25.880
So, guys, we're about to kick it to the war room and hear what's going on in the country.
01:37:29.940
But what are we seeing, though, first out on social media?
01:37:32.260
Are there any states reporting that are critical to the questions that we're asking tonight?
01:37:38.980
Yeah, so we have some updates here with Cabot, actually, one of the editors at the Daily Wire, Cabot.
01:37:48.180
Longer than that, a few hours I had to spend in hair and makeup, you were there with me.
01:37:52.060
So, what are some of the updates that are coming from the cable news networks
01:37:55.760
as those East Coast polls are closing, like Jeremy just laid out?
01:37:58.700
Yeah, so right now Florida is over 60 percent reporting.
01:38:01.440
Fox News currently has President Trump trailing by about 1.4 percent in Florida.
01:38:07.300
The New York Times projections now has President Trump at 96 percent to win Florida
01:38:11.120
with the remaining votes that are left, about 40 percent left.
01:38:13.720
So, people are kicking that around saying, well, New York Times is already predicting
01:38:16.980
essentially 96 percent chance of him winning Florida.
01:38:19.920
A lot of time to go, still a lot of people in line.
01:38:21.960
As long as you're in line, you can still vote when the election or the polls close.
01:38:25.900
Georgia President Trump is down about 2 percent, only 15 percent reporting,
01:38:34.280
No big surprises yet in the states that have been called.
01:38:36.560
Virginia has been called by Fox News for Joe Biden.
01:38:41.500
But besides Virginia being called by Fox News, there haven't been any big surprises
01:38:45.680
Okay, and the thing that I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised about is if we
01:38:49.720
can go home tonight, and I mean, thank God we're on the West Coast, but we're all still
01:38:53.660
pretty tired of, you know, and we're wondering how long it's going to be.
01:39:00.380
And everyone's been contemplating, is this going to be a contested election?
01:39:04.620
And as we talked about with Ian earlier, we have a history of contested elections.
01:39:08.540
Yeah, sometimes I don't, actually, sometimes I do relish being the bearer of bad news.
01:39:12.500
This is not one of those times, and in this case, the bad news is that there's a very high
01:39:15.880
likelihood that we're not going to know the true results tonight, especially if President
01:39:19.460
Trump is performing better than some had expected, which it does look like is happening
01:39:23.680
So, I'm going to walk you through a few scenarios of what it looks like if we don't have the
01:39:26.720
results tonight, starting from most likely to least likely.
01:39:29.920
Most likely is we're going to see some recounts.
01:39:31.540
So, in 20 states across the country, if the final vote tally is under 1%, an automatic
01:39:36.280
recount is triggered, and that includes Arizona, Florida, and Ohio.
01:39:42.540
So, that is something that we should certainly expect to see in some of those states.
01:39:47.620
It could be a situation where one candidate has such a big lead, where the recount doesn't
01:39:53.220
But anyways, in 42 states, candidates can demand a recount if there isn't one automatically
01:39:57.780
And in a few other states, lawsuits can happen, where if a candidate has clear proof of some
01:40:02.720
sort of election malpractice, dumped ballots, that kind of thing, if they have clear evidence
01:40:06.820
of it, they can sue the state to try and get some kind of injunction going on there.
01:40:12.180
And the least likely scenario, but the one I still like to bring up, is congressional intervention.
01:40:16.540
If there is no clear winner that is chosen by the Electoral College by December 6th, Congress
01:40:21.400
They step in, and they will help choose the winner.
01:40:23.800
It's something we saw back in 2000, Bush and Gore in Florida.
01:40:31.800
I'm optimistic we'll have some clear examples of what the race is looking like, hopefully
01:40:37.680
But I don't think people should necessarily expect to know exactly what's going to happen
01:40:41.440
tonight, because this is an incredibly close race.
01:40:43.840
Hard to overstate just how close the results are right now that we're seeing coming in.
01:40:47.340
And we've heard both candidates talk about how they have those legal teams ready to go.
01:40:52.160
The candidates have flexed their legal muscles, something that's a weird thing to envision
01:40:56.460
But they have made clear that if the results are close, especially in some of those key
01:41:00.320
battleground states, that they will be demanding recounts if there isn't an automatic one,
01:41:03.880
that they are willing to go to court to sue to make sure that happens.
01:41:08.100
But again, the race so far, tightening up in Florida and Georgia, those are the two main
01:41:11.600
states we're keeping an eye on in the war room right now.
01:41:13.380
Also, North Carolina, Michigan, a few of those other, Pennsylvania, a few of those other
01:41:20.980
We're keeping an eye on everything that's happening.
01:41:23.700
Both candidates encouraging all their supporters, telling them, if you are in line, stay in
01:41:29.020
For anyone listening or watching that's in line, stay in line because you can vote even
01:41:33.220
And as we get those poll results that are coming in and being solidified, we'll continue
01:41:43.440
One, the Miami-Dade margin in Florida is excellent news for President Trump.
01:41:47.100
Trump got 334,000 votes in Miami-Dade in all of 2016.
01:41:50.220
He already has more than 450,000 votes in Miami-Dade.
01:41:57.220
Biden was supposed to win Miami-Dade by some 30 points.
01:42:01.100
He's really winning it by like 10 this time, which is bad news for Biden.
01:42:04.860
So it looks like a very good shot that Trump takes Florida as expected.
01:42:07.920
Also, it looks like a fairly good shot that Trump takes Georgia as expected if we are
01:42:14.780
We just had on Candace Owens and Jeremy, as is his one, played it as a joke.
01:42:20.260
The reason this is a silly move is because it's an actual thing.
01:42:22.940
Real Candace Owens is, in fact, joining Daily Wire.
01:42:28.300
It's a creative, brand new, culturally oriented, live audience type thing.
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So we're going to turn this into like a full on NPR, help us replace NPR pitch.
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01:43:16.820
Candace Owens is, in fact, coming with us to Nashville and she's joining the Daily Wire.
01:43:21.080
Yeah, it's going to be 2021 is going to be a turning point for conservative media and Daily
01:43:28.200
You know who else is changing the face of media as we know it over on the right?
01:43:31.960
It's her good friend, Megan Kelly, who launched a podcast.
01:43:36.080
When she decides to do something, like take 2016, for example, she decided to walk down
01:43:40.880
Girl knows how to walk down the hall with purpose, change the game.
01:43:46.300
Megan, we're so glad that you're with us and we love your new podcast.
01:43:51.560
Well, thank you for helping me to promote it and for being such good and faithful backers
01:43:55.960
of it from the time it was in its little embryonic stage.
01:43:58.560
Well, it's been kind of a treat for us to get to talk to you behind the scenes and watch
01:44:02.520
you give birth to this thing and to see its success right out of the gate.
01:44:07.840
I think this, you know, it's a really freeing thing to engage in the podcast.
01:44:11.780
I'm sure coming off of being in the more restrictive environment of television, I think it'll give
01:44:15.900
you the opportunity to say all the things that you want to say and you're already doing
01:44:22.700
So I want to ask, first of all, since you've spent so much time in the media covering this stuff,
01:44:26.700
I, you know, I, I believe that the media have been worth eight, 10 points for Joe Biden
01:44:32.420
Uh, I, the, the media, the media seems to have given up on any pretense of objective
01:44:36.680
journalism since you've worked in the halls of the media, not just at Fox news, but obviously
01:44:41.300
Uh, what do you make of the, what looks like the decline of establishment journalism?
01:44:47.720
I did a little talking points memo on my podcast today.
01:44:51.660
We've had yet talking about how the media committed suicide and Trump was there Kevorkian.
01:45:03.020
And it's been, I don't, I don't even want to say it's been sad for me to watch.
01:45:06.140
It's been kind of disgusting for me to watch because they've been trying to take him out
01:45:11.200
And look, I, I wasn't exactly in love with president Trump four years ago and he kept
01:45:19.080
What the thing that helped me really see him clearly and be able to analyze him with objectivity
01:45:24.280
and fairly was them, was how much the media hated him and how against him they were.
01:45:30.900
It's like, you have to rise up and be your strongest self and, and put the most clear
01:45:36.820
So people have someone they can listen to who's not determined to be part of the resistance
01:45:43.560
I just think it was a complete shirking of journalistic responsibility.
01:45:47.080
Their credibility is gone and they cannot get it back.
01:45:49.860
And I'll tell you one reason why it's problematic COVID.
01:45:53.460
Remember when you were coming out there and they were trying to tell us like, why aren't
01:46:02.700
Take the Covington case, Jussie Smollett, all the lies about Trump, Russiagate, Ukraine.
01:46:10.860
And then you got Trump on the other hand, who doesn't have an adult relationship with the
01:46:13.960
They're telling us all sorts of facts that are not facts about COVID.
01:46:20.720
This is something I really want to know the truth on.
01:46:22.880
Anyway, so hence life in the digital lane for me.
01:46:26.360
I feel like it's a great place to be able to just deliver the truth, whatever it is.
01:46:30.480
And I do think that's why digital media and, you know, places like The Daily Wire are the
01:46:40.080
And once Trump goes, whether it's, you know, tonight or four years from now, they're really
01:46:44.720
done because he's the only thing keeping them alive.
01:46:47.700
He ironically is actually propping them up right now.
01:46:53.020
I think about it, too, as far as some never Trump Republicans are not not people who were
01:46:57.120
Trump skeptics in 2016, but people who've sort of gone all in.
01:47:00.520
I'm thinking maybe it's the Lincoln Project and others against the president is that there
01:47:03.960
is this interesting irony where he's responsible for their ascendancy right now.
01:47:08.020
And I don't think that they will have the same kind of reach that they have today in
01:47:13.420
Yeah, I mean, I think that in the future, the media has made clear that it is now no
01:47:18.620
longer in the business of objective journalism.
01:47:23.120
Before, it was like we had to try and play in their field.
01:47:26.120
Megan, one of the things I want to ask you about is you're one of the few figures in
01:47:28.940
media who did not succumb to Trump derangement syndrome.
01:47:30.820
So you had every reason by all available sort of objective metrics to succumb to Trump derangement
01:47:35.580
syndrome in a way that nobody else did, considering the president went directly at you
01:47:43.480
You maintained a perspective on Trump that allowed for the possibility that he would do
01:47:50.600
Because it really is a quality that you don't see in a lot of people in the media sphere.
01:47:56.940
You know, I mean, there were many nights during that nine months that he was coming after me
01:48:00.580
where we had security and we had people showing up at our house and our house in the
01:48:06.880
And every night before I went on the air to report about him, I would remind myself it
01:48:15.640
You know, I'm on the sidelines and he kept trying to bring me out onto the field, but
01:48:19.920
And that's the area from which I want to report.
01:48:25.540
And it's one of the reasons why I really resent the fact that no one's no one else is even
01:48:31.320
There have been lots of leaders who I haven't liked, but your job is to not make it about
01:48:37.600
You don't get to make the Duke lacrosse case about you, Jussie Smollett about you.
01:48:43.020
It's not your opportunity as a reporter to prove to the audience how woke and liberal and
01:48:49.740
Megan, I understand this feeling of despair that the legacy media is just completely collapsing.
01:48:57.800
But is there not also a little bit of hope in there?
01:49:01.220
Is there not a silver lining, which is that I think a lot of us felt for a long time that
01:49:09.980
And then when Donald Trump walks under the scene, all of a sudden the mask slips a little
01:49:13.500
and you can suss out the objective journalists.
01:49:16.080
And I would certainly include you in that category.
01:49:18.340
But from the less objective journalists, I don't know, I'm just a name comes to my head,
01:49:22.880
Jim Acosta or other people who have made the story always about them and their
01:49:29.460
And, you know, we used to in this country back when we were founded be all about partisan
01:49:33.740
And I think our founding fathers wouldn't have understood the attempt to be, quote, objective.
01:49:37.080
They would have said it's all about, you know, declaring your stripes and then arguing for
01:49:42.360
But the thing that bothers me about it is the dishonesty about who they are.
01:49:48.400
Tonight I was channel surfing and my assistant is here with me because it's a long night.
01:49:54.880
I'm going back and forth between Fox and MSNBC.
01:50:06.580
She explains it to me and she's honest about it.
01:50:08.900
Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon and all those guys, they still want you to believe they're objective
01:50:17.680
And what really bothers me about it is, you know, we're all in media.
01:50:24.900
She's never tried to be watching all this nonsense.
01:50:29.820
I'm not following, you know, the media websites to figure out who's gone biased and who hasn't.
01:50:39.880
And for now, I don't watch Rachel's show, but I'd watch a panel on MSNBC before I'd watch CNN.
01:50:47.040
Well, you know, in the early days of this country, the media declared their biases and
01:50:50.520
the media actually campaigned to elect presidents instead of candidates campaigning to get elected
01:50:56.880
This is why you still have newspapers like the Tennessee Democrat, right?
01:50:59.680
They're actually named after the parties that they were formed to be propaganda outlets
01:51:04.580
We don't think of ourselves as a propaganda outlet.
01:51:06.840
We we don't say things that we don't believe are true.
01:51:08.960
We don't say things for which we can't find factual evidence.
01:51:11.940
We're not trying to be an answer to the sort of pravda tendencies of the left.
01:51:16.780
But we do acknowledge that we have these biases.
01:51:19.540
I actually think that everyone in the country would be in so much better shape if we got
01:51:23.520
rid of this entire idea of objective media and everyone just owned their biases.
01:51:28.320
Of course, the only people who are against that are the people who don't want you to know.
01:51:32.880
It's it would work if people could work off of the same facts.
01:51:39.640
Welcome to the podcasting world, which you already ran behind the scenes.
01:51:42.360
And and Michael, I'm soon going to download yours as well.
01:51:48.540
But what I hear about Ben is a guy who he'll tell you when he thinks, you know, he calls
01:51:56.440
like bad Trump, you know, he'll tell you, he gives you straight analysis when he thinks
01:52:07.100
And I actually almost think not Ben was never, never Trumper.
01:52:11.280
But I actually think some of the most honest analysts of the Trump era have been people
01:52:17.100
who started off like Republicans who started off not so into Trump, who then watched what
01:52:25.600
And they can still see him for what he is, but they're not they don't have the derangement
01:52:31.360
And I think that's one of the reasons why you guys are so valuable.
01:52:33.720
I think it's what helps me report fairly on him.
01:52:36.080
There has to be a set of facts that we're agreeing on that we're working off of.
01:52:40.600
And that's where I think the legacy media has gone off the deep end.
01:52:45.420
That's why I'm so grateful that you're now joining us here in new media.
01:52:48.740
I'm grateful for the opportunities that our DailyWire.com audience and in particular,
01:52:52.960
our subscribing members give us to be able to give that alternative point of view.
01:53:00.560
We have to do away with this idea of the mainstream media, which is sort of a holdover from the early
01:53:04.920
2000s, because there's nothing mainstream about the points of view that are being sold
01:53:10.320
to us day in and day out by Don Lemon and by Acosta, by the New York Times, by the Washington
01:53:16.580
You know, that's not how mainstream Americans see themselves.
01:53:21.660
Very, very pleased to have you on the show tonight, Megan.
01:53:24.740
Maybe we can circle up tomorrow and raise a glass to, you know, either the doom of the
01:53:32.480
Listen, I think it's awesome that you guys are not drunk this time.
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So we have another friend with us in studio tonight.
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I say that only because he was with us in 2016 for our election coverage when we were blasted.
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So that's how I came up with that little phrase.
01:55:56.300
And I thought that Clavin just got like more hair, younger and gayer.
01:56:04.060
Let's just go through a couple of things here, guys.
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First off, you've left me here with Clavin's old glass.
01:56:10.640
Because I sense you're not going to be doing that much, much.
01:56:15.860
But before I do that, I did bring my special thick trim election glasses.
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Because you know a lot of times on MSNBC, they're wearing glasses.
01:56:29.600
But to make a point when you're a newscaster, and as you guys are blowing up and leaving me here in Los Angeles and going to Nashville, it's very exciting.
01:56:36.700
So, you know, you guys are going to have to do more of this.
01:56:44.340
And then when you make a point, Ben, and you're always making points.
01:57:03.580
My problem with that, I always get mistaken for Maddow every time I wear those glasses.
01:57:14.600
I'm just going to know right now that the New York Times says there's a 95% shot that Trump
01:57:18.720
Yeah, well, this Miami-Dade County thing, it sounds like he made up.
01:57:31.820
I like that now, whenever I think of Florida man, I think of an Orthodox Jewish Harvard
01:57:38.520
Listen, Ron DeSantis, for all of his down-home charm, is a Harvard law grad.
01:57:47.260
I don't want to say that I called Florida, but it is maybe the only state that I actually
01:57:54.320
My only actual prediction in this election was that Trump was going to win Florida.
01:57:57.320
Now, for the states that I actually do think he's going to win, I do think he's
01:58:03.560
I'm much more skeptical of the states in the Midwest.
01:58:08.360
He's got to have Pennsylvania is really the one you go for.
01:58:10.680
But Florida coming in strong for Trump and not just strong.
01:58:13.800
He's he's apparently getting an outside share of the black vote now tried outside share
01:58:17.960
And this is something that the Republicans should keep in mind going forward is that the Republican
01:58:23.080
Party had been the party of a white suburban college educated people.
01:58:27.620
Then under Trump, it became the party of high school educated white people.
01:58:31.580
And they sort of broke the Democratic stranglehold on some of those audiences in the Midwest.
01:58:35.780
If the Republican Party becomes the party of more blacks, more Hispanics and working class
01:58:42.420
white people with some suburban women, because Trump is really the barrier between suburban
01:58:53.040
And so for all of the Democrats being very sanguine about tonight, that's reading a lot
01:58:58.080
And this is this is the big key, though, Ben, because, as you mentioned, we've been told
01:59:02.580
now for years and years, you know, that Republicans hate black people and Democrats have had a huge
01:59:09.880
And then during the Trump era, we were told Trump is making inroads among black voters.
01:59:13.460
And you had all these polls, these battling polls.
01:59:15.700
Is Trump getting 20 percent, 25 percent, 2 percent?
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If Trump can actually succeed at the thing that we conservatives have been telling ourselves
01:59:28.340
for the past four years, that could be a fundamental shift in the way the political parties are
01:59:34.200
Well, it just seems obvious to me that minorities are breaking.
01:59:38.480
Minorities are realizing who wants to be owned by a political party because of your the color
01:59:46.760
I mean, look, you just had Candace on and it's great.
01:59:49.960
It's like she literally changed the world, whether whether Trump wins or not.
01:59:57.200
I mean, talk about a freaking political evolution over here.
02:00:03.980
But I do want to give credit to the missing Daily Watch, whose chair I'm sitting in, because
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you remember four years ago when we were doing this and and as the night was going on and
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it started to become more obvious that Trump was going to win and everybody was kind of
02:00:21.340
But Clavin Clavin said something that I have repeated and I try to credit him when I can
02:00:25.520
that I think is just so on the money that what an incredible country we live in, that
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anything can happen right now, the four of us, we live and breathe this stuff.
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Anything can happen tonight, you know, and not only can anything happen, but it also depends
02:00:44.900
So it has been confirmed that he destroyed Amy McGrath.
02:00:51.460
Trying to defeat Mitch McConnell, which is the stupidest thing.
02:00:54.280
That's all he has to do is putting his head in his hands into that shell.
02:01:04.380
Also, South Carolina has been called for Trump, which is good news for Lindsey Graham, who
02:01:07.620
supposedly was in a close battle, but it wasn't particularly a close battle.
02:01:18.880
I think Trump is going to win, but I just think people have just woken up.
02:01:25.840
How long are you saying California is really the question?
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As a matter of fact, I had Knowles and his lovely wife over for dinner just a few weeks
02:01:34.720
before you announced that you were all leaving.
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And Knowles and I, after some whiskey and some wine.
02:01:44.540
And then literally it was like 12 minutes later, I see across the Twitter, Ben Shapiro announces
02:02:17.860
Well, first of all, I've loved having you guys here.
02:02:30.880
You may be enjoying that new house, but they will bodily throw you out of the state.
02:02:55.660
Well, what's going to be hilarious is when all of us, the married, religious, Jewish and
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Christian conservatives, watch Dave, the gay, formerly liberal guy, being Waco in the middle
02:03:13.540
I always told you, Knowles, I was going to end up the most right-wing.
02:03:18.880
Because I've been with these people, and they're terrible, horrible people.
02:03:21.920
And I spent a lot of time with them, and they're awful.
02:03:24.220
Politically, you're going to be further to right than any of us.
02:03:31.020
I mean, this is what we decided, that we will stay here for a while and see if we can fix
02:03:37.820
Leftists and progressives break things, and then conservatives fix them.
02:03:40.880
So it's like, look, California, that Reagan guy was once the governor of California.
02:03:54.000
And I also like 82-degree weather every day when it's not raining fire.
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The truth is, Ben's lived in California in his entire life.
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I've lived here for 20 years, two months, and two weeks.
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It's the greatest state in the country in terms of natural beauty.
02:04:11.680
It's the greatest state in the country in terms of just your ability to start off as
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nothing, engage with media, and find a voice for yourself.
02:04:21.460
I mean, in the last three years, they've completely unraveled the magic of L.A.
02:04:24.720
It's a totally different town than what it was even 36 months ago.
02:04:28.780
My hope is, listen, my hope is you join us in Nashville.
02:04:32.780
Failing that, I hope you turn this state around.
02:04:36.580
Like, how do any of us do anything in the political world if we don't think there's a
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Literally just quoting Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber now.
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Most of my political beliefs, actually, they came from liar, liar.
02:04:51.660
Yeah, like, there is, right, now, Ben, it took me a second.
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Did you know that his favorite movie is Me, Myself, and I read?
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He told me that that night before he lied to me about staying.
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Anyway, I'm going to stay and fight for a little bit.
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And I think people hate Garcetti, this clown here, our mayor.
02:05:18.540
And I'm going to see, you know, Rick Grinnell's still in California.
02:05:24.320
And by the way, as Hollywood crumbles, which it is crumbling, it is crumbling.
02:05:28.300
And as Hollywood crumbles, new industries will have to kind of step in and fill that out.
02:05:36.880
So let's tie this to tonight, which is to say there was a 10,000-person Trump rally in Beverly Hills.
02:06:00.440
See, this is where I can never say I'm a full conservative because I say ecstasy and I can see all
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I told my wife one time, my family has a history of drug use, and so I've never been tempted
02:06:13.440
And even in situations where people I cared a lot about, you know, people who I was very
02:06:17.560
close to, they would say, you know, we'd be in Amsterdam or something.
02:06:20.220
They'd be like, oh, it'd be great if we smoked a joint together.
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And I would just say, I just, I can't do it because I've seen where the road can lead.
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I don't know which genes I got, but I'm not going to fool around with what if I got those
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I've said to my wife, if I were ever going to do a drug, it would be ecstasy.
02:06:40.960
I didn't realize this was going to turn into the Joe Rogan podcast.
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What I've always said is I want to carve a little more libertarianism into the conservative
02:06:57.100
Thousands of people, and it didn't matter if they were black or white or gay or straight
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I found out that Prager, Dennis Prager, was on his way there.
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I met him right outside, and we walked in together.
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And to watch the people, because, you know, Dennis is really tall, and he's dressed like
02:07:24.880
And to watch these literally, like, thousands of people, like, yelling, like, God bless you,
02:08:00.620
And I laid the best argument on Dennis that he has ever heard, which was, Dennis Prager,
02:08:07.240
you are committing an act of immorality by spending your taxpayer dollars in a state that is hopelessly blue
02:08:14.820
and is using them to reinforce all the values you hate.
02:08:22.820
He said, I have to say, he has an acai bowl and he has his Apple Watch.
02:08:28.800
He says, Dennis is taking to heart what Ben said to him about the morality of staying in California.
02:08:49.860
Obviously, the president isn't going to win California.
02:08:54.600
So I used to run an organization called Friends of Abe.
02:08:56.920
It was about 2,500 Hollywood professionals who were conservative.
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And we'd bring 20 to 40 of them into these new member lunches.
02:09:03.460
And people would whisper at a private table in a private room.
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I mean numerous times over the decade that we were in operation.
02:09:15.460
People would say, obviously, my agent, if they knew I was here.
02:09:20.700
My wife does not know my most deeply held beliefs.
02:09:23.140
What the rally in Beverly Hills said to me, what your experience at the polling place
02:09:28.820
last week said to me, what the caravan of trucks and vehicles that went down Ventura
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Boulevard three times now has said to me is that conservatives are not in a mood to hide
02:09:40.700
I think we have finally realized they've got our number.
02:09:46.280
The only way you can defend yourself is to take absolute ownership of who you are and stand
02:09:51.460
And by the way, who do we have to thank for that?
02:09:53.400
It's Donald Trump, because he mapped out a way to win, because who do the Democrats love
02:09:58.560
They love the idea of John McCain, who's not even on this earth anymore.
02:10:04.740
They love they love they love Bill Kristol, of course.
02:10:09.060
Now they love Republicans that are either retired and gone or dead.
02:10:12.740
And it's like Trump's like, well, I'm here and I'm alive and I'm going to fight for these
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It doesn't make him perfect, but he's the one that that allowed that.
02:10:20.120
So when you go to this thing in Beverly Hills, I mean, the heart of not just Beverly Hills,
02:10:24.880
Rodeo Drive, which was destroyed by Black Lives Matter and Antifa a couple of months ago and
02:10:30.760
Somehow, hundreds and thousands of Trump supporters can walk through Rodeo Drive.
02:10:43.700
Why are people boarding up, Dave Rubin, if conservatives aren't going to burn everything
02:10:47.460
You mean it isn't going to be white Christian militias parading through Beverly Hills,
02:10:59.380
Well, I don't want to tempt you overly, but you know who they just called for Donald Trump
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with only 1% of the vote reporting, and yet they called the state the great state of Tennessee.
02:11:20.560
I was in Tennessee once when I was on tour with Jordan, and I performed at the Grand Ole
02:11:24.960
Opry, the Ryman Theater, which is the legendary theater.
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And the people there were extraordinarily nice.
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You guys are going to have to get used to being around nice people.
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That's very different than being here in L.A., but I think just with the right amount
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of time and maybe a little ecstasy, I think it'll work out.
02:11:40.600
You know, this is something that even I have friends and family who are very meek and mild,
02:11:45.680
and they have always lived in blue places, even if they're conservative, and they say they're
02:11:49.340
sick of it because now this is actually something that changed with coronavirus.
02:11:53.080
We're now, and the mask is a great symbol of it.
02:11:57.420
By the millimeter of where the mask is on their nose, right?
02:12:05.840
Every single interaction is, am I a bag of germs or am I a fellow American?
02:12:11.960
Everything is so, you're so on edge all the time.
02:12:15.320
I want to jump into a sea of Republicans in Tennessee.
02:12:18.220
I want to feel like I'm not always on the defensive.
02:12:21.920
Well, I mean, when it comes to the mask, actually, what I've noticed for Democrats is that the
02:12:25.360
way you can tell a Democrat wearing a mask is that they're wearing it improperly.
02:12:30.240
That Republicans, when they wear masks, it's usually because they actually are concerned
02:12:34.000
And for a lot of Democrats, it seems like the mask is being worn simply as a pure virtue signal.
02:12:38.580
And so it's like, you know, I'm not as anti-mask as you guys are.
02:12:45.060
So that I actually think that the masking is not the chief giveaway.
02:12:49.220
The chief giveaway is when you think the masking is the is the failure of ideological consistency.
02:12:54.440
All the people who say that it's terrible to go to a crowd event with Donald Trump and
02:13:00.060
It's very important for you to go into a racial protest about how the United States is
02:13:03.280
Well, I don't want to have literally a story, I think, yesterday on Yahoo.
02:13:06.640
I think it was Yahoo that said somehow they figured out that when when people are doing
02:13:11.040
these super spreader Black Lives Matter things and they're destroying everything, somehow the
02:13:17.040
Because they said that everybody was staying home at Trump.
02:13:19.520
And what they said is because everybody was staying home.
02:13:21.680
They said everybody was staying home because of the riot.
02:13:23.300
So the rioters were actually doing you a favor.
02:13:25.000
They were keeping up with homes so you wouldn't die.
02:13:28.760
Today, the CDC says that even if you have active, actively have COVID-19, you should go vote.
02:13:37.000
What bothers me about this is, and I know this will come as a shock to people, there
02:13:40.660
is no constitutional right to vote for president.
02:13:43.720
There is a constitutional right to freely worship.
02:13:48.220
And yet churches, basically a CDC recommendation, remain shuttered all over this country.
02:13:52.620
But if you're going to vote, by golly, get down there and make sure that there's not
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If it doesn't turn out their way, it's a mirage.
02:14:02.560
Right now, it is worth noting that Georgia looks like it is lining up for Trump as well.
02:14:06.300
So at least Florida and Georgia have lined up for Trump.
02:14:09.560
Arizona looks a little bit dicier based on early stats.
02:14:11.860
Ohio is looking a lot closer than it did last time.
02:14:15.120
Remember, Trump was supposed to win narrowly in Ohio.
02:14:23.120
And we've seen some polls that come out that have been a little scary.
02:14:25.140
And obviously, Stacey Abrams is the governor there.
02:14:32.520
This all ends with Stacey Abrams as the president.
02:14:40.720
Do you mind sticking around for one more second?
02:14:56.680
As you guys mentioned, of course, President Trump just won Tennessee.
02:15:05.920
Can you break down some of the data from that state?
02:15:07.740
So the two main states we're looking at right now where we have enough data to really start
02:15:11.120
to get a feel for how the states are shaping out, Georgia and Florida.
02:15:13.900
Now, Florida, New York Times, if you believe their projections, has Trump at about 96 percent
02:15:18.900
The Panhandle, one of the large areas remaining for votes to come in, traditionally a conservative stronghold.
02:15:23.340
It's looking very, very good for the president in Florida, Georgia, another state where polls
02:15:31.740
New York Times has them with a 60 percent chance of winning Georgia, if you believe those.
02:15:35.920
The numbers that we have right now with 13 percent reporting President Trump up about
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That's where most of the results are going to come in.
02:15:47.360
Fulton, Cobb County, DeKalb County, all counties that are Democrats stronghold traditionally.
02:15:51.620
It's going to be tough to see for Georgia, but it looks good right now.
02:15:55.080
And one of the things about Georgia that we've been discussing is the early voting there.
02:16:01.020
Because technically that tends to skew more Democratic, right?
02:16:04.560
Technically, you would think that in past elections, it definitely benefits Democrats.
02:16:07.960
This year, Democrat early voting, not as big because Republicans have been calling on
02:16:12.900
Democrat mail-in voting is what we're expecting to see very high numbers from.
02:16:17.480
We're talking about projections from The New York Times.
02:16:18.860
Another one people like to keep an eye on, the betting market.
02:16:21.360
Sometimes people think you can get a better feel for where it's going with the money.
02:16:24.300
Now, President Trump was sitting down in the high teens to low 20s earlier in the week.
02:16:28.520
Right now, he's up to 45 percent in some of the larger betting markets.
02:16:31.500
So it seems like some people think the smart money is lying on President Trump, or at least
02:16:36.780
So that's another thing to keep an eye on as the night progresses.
02:16:39.020
Ohio, another one, the big one that people are wanting to see, Ohio and Pennsylvania next.
02:16:42.420
We just don't have enough data coming in from those states yet.
02:16:44.600
Ohio, especially, where you do have a few more votes, but a lot of the key areas that
02:16:50.820
And I mean, who knew that Michael Knowles had time to get to Vegas to put in his bets on
02:16:55.300
Speaking of something that Democrats spent a lot of money on, $100 million on the race
02:17:09.320
Can you give us an update on what's going on with the Senate?
02:17:10.980
Well, if you close your eyes and listen to that sound, that laughter is the affectionately
02:17:15.480
named Cocaine Mitch laughing at all of the people that poured $100 million into Amy McGrath's
02:17:22.980
I'm picturing the Joker sitting on the cash right before he lights it on fire.
02:17:25.600
That's what anyone who sent money to the McGrath campaign has done with their money.
02:17:28.840
Mitch McConnell, you bet against him, a lot of times it doesn't go well for you.
02:17:34.960
We've seen a few other races called for Republicans, Inhofe in Oklahoma, a few other states.
02:17:40.340
Not many big surprises yet in the Senate races.
02:17:42.820
We're holding off on announcing any of those yet until we get to some of the more contested
02:17:49.200
Guys, we're going to continue to bring those updates.
02:17:50.800
But right now, we would love to come on over here and get to some subscriber questions.
02:17:57.320
At what point, this question is for Ben, actually, what point do you think that the
02:18:00.940
riots and looting will start, Ben, if Trump ends up winning Pennsylvania?
02:18:07.440
So I think, first of all, there aren't going to be a lot of folks who actually wait until
02:18:11.600
I think you're going to start to see unrest tonight if there's not a clear result for
02:18:14.960
So I think that if we get to 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock at night on the East Coast, Washington,
02:18:19.400
D.C., New York, some of the places that they're worried about this.
02:18:23.100
And it turns out that it's a very narrow election that looks like it's going to go late into the
02:18:28.820
You might start to see some preemptive looting, some preemptive upset.
02:18:31.500
If we hit tomorrow and it looks like Trump's going to win Pennsylvania, you will see some
02:18:50.980
Not to get too saucy, but I'm definitely borrowing those glasses and I'm going back to
02:18:54.080
Flora and I'm saying my wife, sweetheart, would you like to?
02:19:06.220
Next question goes to, actually, I want to ask this question to Dave, if you don't mind.
02:19:11.120
People want to know that given that the polls were so inaccurate in 2016, do you think that
02:19:16.280
the pollsters may have erred on the safe side this election?
02:19:18.840
We've heard across the board how pollsters have changed, you know, the different levels
02:19:23.020
of which they look at data and what type of people they call and include in their polling.
02:19:27.080
But do you think that they've erred so much on the safe side this year that they will
02:19:31.280
be reporting and, you know, kind of going too much to the other side, reporting similarly
02:19:37.100
You know, I've been polling people on Twitter and in real life asking friends and family
02:19:42.960
I got one person to say that about 10 years ago they were polled on a landline.
02:19:55.680
That's what happens before or after the ecstasy.
02:20:01.340
I don't think that the polls actually have much bearing anymore.
02:20:07.080
It strikes me as a vestige of the old world and in many ways, no matter what happens tonight,
02:20:11.160
but especially if Trump wins, it seems to me that the old world is coming to a close now.
02:20:17.480
It maybe hangs on for four more years if Biden wins or whoever becomes president once Biden
02:20:22.940
is declared incompetent or whatever, incapacitated, incompetent, whatever you want to call it.
02:20:31.120
But in essence, I think that the idea that the pollsters are getting this stuff right,
02:20:38.840
The way the New York Times tries to train us, the way all the studies out of Harvard
02:20:48.060
I mean, everything they do is doublespeak and confusion.
02:20:50.640
So the idea that the people who lie about everything and the mainstream that lies about
02:20:54.480
absolutely everything, they don't lie about this.
02:20:58.580
This is the one thing that they've decided not to lie about because it's so serious,
02:21:01.380
and yet we don't know anyone that they've talked to about this.
02:21:03.180
Well, this is actually a debate that we were having before the show.
02:21:05.260
Ben and I, Michael was a part of it, Drew was a part of it, is can, do pollsters have
02:21:12.000
more of an interest to redeem their profession by being accurate or more of an interest in
02:21:18.880
gratifying their client who is the legacy media?
02:21:22.840
These people don't, it's almost everything that's gone on with the left over the last
02:21:27.140
You would think that Donald Trump being president for the last four years, they might have gone
02:21:34.360
You don't want to be the pollster, the one pollster out of the pollster.
02:21:39.580
Do they have like an AOL chat room or something?
02:21:41.840
But like, you don't want to be the one pollster who's like, you know, I'm doing this a little
02:21:44.420
bit differently and talking to people a little bit differently, and you're not going to
02:21:46.860
believe this, guys, but I've got Trump up five.
02:21:49.100
So that's why all the polls said the exact same thing, which, by the way, over the last
02:21:53.180
couple of days was a lot closer at this point than it was four years ago.
02:21:59.140
There's just a sort of minor historical point here, which is that everything we're talking
02:22:02.740
about, modern social science, modern statistics, modern polling, modern media, modern university,
02:22:07.180
modern state, all came up at the same time as part of the same project.
02:22:11.420
Actually, the word statistics comes from the word statist, statistic in German, statist in
02:22:16.300
It was all to feed the modern administrative state.
02:22:22.340
If that system starts to break down, then the whole thing breaks down.
02:22:26.700
You've seen the legacy media break down magnificently.
02:22:30.180
And I think the last vestige is polling because it sounds the most sciencey.
02:22:36.120
But as the system crumbles, that one's going to go to.
02:22:39.100
Well, look at look at exit polling, the idea that there's a pollster outside of the place
02:22:44.460
where you vote, who is going to come up to you, and then you're going to tell him what
02:22:51.200
I'm a public person and people know that I voted for Trump.
02:22:53.820
But the idea that I would have talked to a random person, especially with the stupidity
02:22:57.840
of the masks and everything else, like, oh, yes, yes, let me tell you my life story.
02:23:03.820
Like, it's all none of this seems real anymore.
02:23:10.080
And I think truly, you know, guys like us are going to help blaze the trail to it.
02:23:17.660
So we have breaking news right now coming out of Florida.
02:23:20.980
We're going to the Daily Wire war room to get the update.
02:23:25.540
I'm going to head on over to our nifty little map over here and our very own Cabot Phillips.
02:23:31.560
If I sound a little bit out of breath, it's because I've been running back and forth, getting
02:23:35.000
Now, multiple sources have said that President Trump is set to win Florida.
02:23:39.380
They have called it for President Trump, multiple sources.
02:23:43.320
We're going to wait for a little bit more clarification.
02:23:45.280
But it looks like, barring some kind of unforeseen craziness, President Trump is going to carry
02:23:50.240
And that is with 86% of the precincts reporting.
02:24:03.480
And where the remaining votes are coming in from, traditional conservative strongholds.
02:24:07.660
It doesn't look like there's any way for Vice President Biden to make up the gap in Florida.
02:24:11.020
So we have the first state where it looks like all throughout the election, the polling
02:24:20.200
We did see the polls start to get a little bit closer this week.
02:24:22.880
President Trump and Biden alternating, being the lead in Florida.
02:24:26.280
But it looks like Florida is going to be going to President Trump.
02:24:30.100
And that is 29 very big and important, or as the president would say, bigly important.
02:24:38.960
If he didn't take Florida, statistically speaking, it was going to be nearly impossible for him
02:24:43.900
This is one of the core five states we've been tracking at the Daily Wire.
02:24:50.500
And now it's on to North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, all those big states.
02:24:56.720
We'll be bringing those updates, specifically North Carolina and Pennsylvania, where we're paying
02:25:02.000
Cabot just mentioned the polls were, you know, not necessarily, you know, how wrong
02:25:07.500
Once all the votes are counted, we'll see what that margin was.
02:25:11.020
And, but if the polls there were trending against the president and the vice president
02:25:15.180
in Florida, does that mean that other polling data that we've seen out of places like Pennsylvania,
02:25:22.260
We're going to be paying attention to that and bringing you guys updates as we get them.
02:25:25.360
And this, by the way, is the big question, is whether now is Florida indicative of other
02:25:29.960
polling errors all over the country, or is it that Florida just outperforms for Republicans,
02:25:37.160
We saw that Ron DeSantis defeated Andrew Gilman in a very bad year for Republicans in 2018.
02:25:44.300
It may be that Florida is, in fact, trending red because Hispanic voters are trending toward
02:25:48.000
President Trump, particularly in Florida, where they are Cuban expatriates, Venezuelan
02:25:51.200
expatriates, Brazilian expatriates, because lumping in everybody from various different
02:25:55.500
countries as Latino and pretending that everybody is from the same country.
02:26:01.260
By the way, the polling this year would be pretty egregious.
02:26:04.340
The 538 polling average did have Florida at 2.5 for Biden.
02:26:08.480
They're now predicting that it could be plus 3.4 for Trump.
02:26:11.360
That's a significant five-point error in favor of President Trump.
02:26:17.040
We'll see if that carries over to any place else like, for example, Ohio, which right now
02:26:23.780
So what I will say is that we had wondered at the beginning of the night, would we be in for
02:26:28.880
If it was going to be 2012 all over again, the president would be losing Florida and we
02:26:36.040
The president of the United States, Donald Trump, very competitive tonight, picking up
02:26:39.640
the state of Florida or almost certain now to pick up the state of Florida and therefore
02:26:43.900
is in a great position to battle it out for the rest of the night.
02:26:55.260
Obviously, I'm never going to see any of you ever again.
02:26:57.840
And I'm going to go down with the ship here and you people will, you're looking at me
02:27:06.560
I mean, attending your funeral, I'm going to just think back on this time.
02:27:10.880
And think, remember that time before Dave went down and fell on Scarface Blaze of Glory doing
02:27:15.660
ecstasy and firing machine guns at Eric Barsetti.
02:27:18.140
I'm going to joke about my impending doom, but I'm not the one moving to Del Boca Vista.
02:27:23.860
Ben Shapiro just carried the state of Florida for President Trump.
02:27:30.640
Just as Candace Owens has radically shifted the black vote in favor of President Trump,
02:27:34.400
I shifted the Florida vote in favor of President Trump by my mere presence.
02:27:37.180
Just as I have historically shifted the vote in favor of Republicans in the state of California.
02:27:45.140
Because I'm not going to see you guys in person for a while.
02:27:46.960
Well, the fact that you guys are going and you put your money where your mouth is,
02:27:54.220
Whether it's me here, you guys there, wherever everybody else ends up, like this is a country.
02:27:59.580
Like if we're going to remain a country, then some good people have to stay here and some
02:28:13.780
I appreciate you not only being here, but just your friendship and kinship over these
02:28:17.400
last several years as we've been launching our business, you've been launching your business.
02:28:20.920
It's been comforting knowing you're right down the street.
02:28:24.100
I feel like I had something to do with your higher hair also.
02:28:27.040
You know, this hair, I paid good money for this hair.
02:28:31.780
I thought we said all joking aside, I was getting sentimental and now you guys are picking.
02:28:38.900
I just want to say very seriously, very earnestly and no jokes, Dave, the wisdom you have shown
02:28:43.120
us over the past like nine minutes or so since you took the glasses off and then chewed on
02:28:48.360
them a little has has floored me and really made me think.
02:29:12.520
Go to a close up on me so we can get him unplugged before he walks away and tears up
02:29:20.760
This is my favorite part of the evening is when things start to get a little bit worse
02:29:23.780
for Democrats and all of the estimates start to go down.
02:29:27.180
But one of my favorite parts of the last 2016 election, as you'll recall, was watching the
02:29:32.020
estimate on Hillary Clinton go from ninety nine percent to zero percent over the course
02:29:37.160
Five thirty eight is now reevaluating their shot that Biden wins the White House.
02:29:41.420
They now have him at sixty six percent if Trump carries Florida.
02:29:49.380
Again, the state to keep your eye on now is Ohio, because Ohio is getting those votes in.
02:29:54.760
We are still waiting on more results from North Carolina at this point.
02:29:59.640
It is it is amazing to see how Hispanic voters in Florida moved dramatically, dramatically away
02:30:08.240
According to some of the early exit polls, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Hispanics in Florida
02:30:13.960
in twenty sixteen plus twenty seven for Hillary in twenty twenty plus eight for Biden, plus
02:30:20.880
OK, that is closing a nearly 20 point gap among Hispanic voters in the state of Florida.
02:30:25.500
In Georgia, Biden is underperforming by 15 percent versus Clinton among Hispanics.
02:30:30.200
And in Ohio, Hispanics are performing 17 points better for Donald Trump than they did
02:30:34.840
last time around, which demonstrates once and once again, it demonstrates two things.
02:30:39.060
One, Democrats are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument.
02:30:43.620
And two, white nationalists are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument.
02:30:47.320
The argument that only if there are more white voters and fewer Hispanic voters can there
02:30:53.080
OK, the reality is people are individuals and people will think as individuals if treated
02:30:57.500
And that will be the hope of the Republican Party going forward.
02:31:01.420
Apparently, according to the New York Times needle, by the way, they've got those needles
02:31:03.820
back. And I know everybody hates on the needles, but the needles are great because honestly,
02:31:08.000
I mean, one of the things that's great about the needles is they do give you like a quick
02:31:11.880
and kind of down and dirty way of knowing exactly where things sort of stand in the race moment
02:31:16.380
to moment. They suggest that Trump is a slight favorite to carry North Carolina.
02:31:21.180
And obviously, they have Trump winning Florida and Trump a heavy favorite to win Georgia.
02:31:24.600
That would be a big miss by the polls, by the way, on Georgia as well.
02:31:27.820
Georgia was trending Trump in the latter days, according to RealClearPolitics.
02:31:31.740
And if you look at their polling average, Georgia was running basically dead even.
02:31:37.360
Five thirty eight had Georgia trending toward trending toward Biden.
02:31:40.380
So we'll see if these polls are systemically wrong.
02:31:42.440
If they're systemically wrong and often Trump wins reelection.
02:31:46.380
Unbelievable. So we're proud to welcome back our own Andrew Klavan.
02:31:54.000
I think he went up when he got himself a lovely dinner, met some nice people out front who were
02:31:58.140
spray painting in front of our building where we have it all boarded up.
02:32:01.240
You missed our farewell to our pal, Dave Rubin.
02:32:06.400
But you also missed the unbelievable news that the president is being some some outlets are
02:32:13.660
now calling Florida for the president. So we are in for a long night.
02:32:17.340
That looked good. You have to remember, Quinnipiac had him five points down.
02:32:23.540
I just can't believe that bastard wouldn't use Latinx.
02:32:26.480
As we all know, only only racists refuse to use Latinx racists like every Latino person
02:32:32.320
Can we also celebrate that the Mitch McConnell.
02:32:34.620
Oh, yeah, we did that earlier. You weren't here for the bucks.
02:32:37.560
It was pretty fantastic. We actually did cocaine off the table.
02:32:42.860
Oh, yeah. No, they they literally just took a giant pile of money and burned it.
02:32:46.080
It was it was the joker and saying, we're just trying to send a message here.
02:32:51.900
They should have written like a letter on each dollar bill because of a really long message.
02:33:02.220
So in a lot of the counties that Trump was winning heavily, particularly suburban counties
02:33:06.660
that he did pretty well in last time, he's underperforming in the suburban counties of Ohio.
02:33:11.620
He's really underperforming in places like Cincinnati is performing.
02:33:14.880
He won the counties surrounding Cincinnati, but they're not showing up in mass numbers.
02:33:19.340
He this is showing up closer to what he was pulled that is 20 in 2016 than what he showed
02:33:25.040
OK, so in 2016, a lot of a lot of rural white voters showed up for Trump.
02:33:29.360
If they don't show up for Trump in Ohio, it's hard to see him winning Pennsylvania, I think,
02:33:32.540
because if that the question is competing patterns.
02:33:38.160
And my tendency is to think that if he underperforms in Ohio or if he underperforms in Texas,
02:33:42.620
that is more likely to predict the night than overperformance in Florida, because Florida
02:33:48.400
And not only is Florida a fantastic frickin state again, Florida bucked the trend in 2018,
02:33:52.280
which is why Ron DeSantis, rather than a man who was caught in a room with meth and
02:33:56.200
a gay hooker, I ended up as as governor of Florida.
02:33:59.540
A communist who was caught in a room with meth and a gay hooker.
02:34:06.500
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We're announcing a lot of really exciting initiatives tonight.
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Not only is Candace Owens moving to Nashville, not only is she joining the Daily Wire with
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Second big announcement is that beginning in the coming weeks, we have made a partnership
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The most, I think, listen, there are three conservative organizations that have really
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emerged over the last five years to take new roles and very important roles in the movement.
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I think Charlie Kirk over at TPUSA has done something remarkable and important.
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I think the Daily Wire has been self-serving, but we have done something remarkable and important
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And our friends at Prager University have done something remarkable and important.
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They have been fighting the fight for education.
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Our friend Dennis Prager and our friend Alan Estrin came up with the idea.
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CEO Marissa has taken it to heights that I don't think any of us saw coming in the early
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Now these videos have been viewed literally billions of times.
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And you should be pleased about that because they are watched by people who, you know, are
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young, people who wouldn't perhaps listen to, say, Rush Limbaugh or wouldn't
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watch Fox News and they're getting a deep education.
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They're learning about the concepts that are actually relevant.
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In fact, four years ago when Donald Trump won his surprise 2016 victory, a PragerU video
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that I had had the pleasure of working on about the Electoral College did 50 million views
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As Americans started asking questions like, what is the Electoral College?
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In our new partnership with PragerU, we will bring DailyWire.com members, the entire
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That's the way you watch Ben Shapiro on TheDailyWire.com.
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And now you will be able to watch the entire catalog of remarkable, evergreen, prescient and
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important videos from our friends over at PragerU.
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One of the important steps that we're taking, A, to give more value to our subscribers, but
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more than that, to make sure that you are exposed to the exact content that you need to arm you
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for the battles that are ahead and to replace this media, academic, institutional structure
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It's not enough to fight the battle of ideas in media.
02:39:35.840
We have to fight it on the level of education, too.
02:39:37.960
We have to teach people the things that they currently do not know.
02:39:40.660
We will be doing that with our friends at PragerU.
02:39:45.320
I'm also going to welcome to the show a good friend of, well, no one.
02:39:55.960
People ask all the time, why isn't Matt Walsh part of Backstage?
02:39:59.700
Why isn't Matt Walsh part of your election night coverage?
02:40:05.500
And when you don't like us, and you don't like airplanes, and you live literally 3,200 miles
02:40:10.280
away, you're just not going to be on the damn show, people.
02:40:15.640
Oh, Matt, what if we sent you a first class ticket?
02:40:18.460
And he's always like, oh, will they make me a mimosa?
02:40:22.860
Well, if you can't promise me a mimosa, I can't possibly do it.
02:40:26.220
But he is with us tonight, streaming in from his new digs in Nashville, Tennessee, where
02:40:31.320
he'll be obviously much more integrated, I think, into some of these broadcasts than he's
02:40:35.240
been able to be in the past, because we'll be together finally.
02:40:43.980
It is true that I don't like anyone, but I do my best to pretend.
02:40:47.860
Not very well most of the time, but I do try to pretend.
02:40:51.420
So, Matt, as a very cynical human being who's always downcast and depressing, are you downcast
02:40:57.100
and depressing tonight, or are you upbeat tonight?
02:41:00.920
Well, my projection was that Kanye West would win the presidency, so I'm feeling depressed
02:41:11.840
Looking at it right now, it seems like things are kind of trending like they did in 2016.
02:41:16.140
And no, I certainly wouldn't call myself optimistic, because I never am.
02:41:22.500
If that's how it turns out, then it's no big surprise, because, of course, the Democrats
02:41:27.780
are going to, if they lose, they're going to be talking about voter fraud and all these
02:41:31.800
But the reason why they lost, if they lose, it's simply because they're horrible.
02:41:39.480
They've done not one thing in the last four years to attract new voters, especially the
02:41:46.260
Everything they've done has been to appeal to, you know, pink-haired gender studies majors
02:41:54.340
That's everything they've done in four years has been just to appeal to that set.
02:41:57.680
And what we discover, maybe, at the end of the night, is that there aren't enough of people
02:42:06.900
So, Matt Walsh, we have been ripping on the media all evening long.
02:42:10.580
And we expect you to do the same as an employee of DailyWire.com.
02:42:14.800
We are now billing ourselves as a replacement media because our media are such garbage.
02:42:18.040
So, please, spend the next two minutes and 37 seconds ripping the crap out of the media
02:42:24.480
Well, I mean, that's – no, I'm actually a big fan of the media.
02:42:30.900
No, I – listen, they've – you know, you look at some of the images in D.C.
02:42:38.140
and in New York and other – and you guys have talked about this in some of these cities
02:42:41.900
where they're boarding up windows and they have to call on the National Guard.
02:42:45.760
You know, I've – in the past, when I've seen other countries doing that sort of thing
02:42:50.740
for their elections, I've always felt good and felt sort of superior and thought,
02:42:57.020
I feel so good that we have peaceful elections and we don't have to worry about that.
02:43:01.240
And now we have become that sort of country and we know we have the media largely to thank for it.
02:43:06.940
And it's no big surprise when you go around telling people that you've got literally Hitler
02:43:12.160
in the White House and he's evil to his core and, you know, he's – and there are police officers
02:43:17.400
who are prowling the streets, hunting and murdering black people.
02:43:20.780
I mean, these lies have consequences and we're seeing the consequences.
02:43:33.400
So, honestly, you've just given me what I was looking for right there.
02:43:36.800
Matt, I want you to stick around with us as we welcome our next guest.
02:43:40.500
I told you that we've made a new partnership with our friends over at Prager University.
02:43:44.080
And, indeed, we've always had a partnership with our friends at Prager University
02:43:47.680
from helping with the animation of some of the videos from the earliest days of the company,
02:43:51.640
nearly the earliest days of the company, to also Michael Knowles and I
02:43:55.440
and our own Jared Cichel having the opportunity to work with Alan Estrin on many of the scripts.
02:44:00.000
We've always seen Prager U as a bit of a sister company,
02:44:02.220
and we're really pleased that we'll be working more closely going forward.
02:44:05.740
And here to help us celebrate that new partnership and to analyze the events of the evening,
02:44:16.900
And I'm going to say, I did not expect to say this, but it is what it is.
02:44:26.720
If the Republicans win, it's larger than Trump, but if the Republicans and the president win,
02:44:35.000
you and what we do and Turning Point and others, we have made a difference.
02:44:44.220
And I am thrilled that we have because this country is too important to the world.
02:45:00.280
The story of the day is the boarding of the stores in America's cities.
02:45:07.940
You could cry that we have lived to see this day, but there's something even more dark about it.
02:45:22.560
And a lot of Americans are not blaming the left for the fact that people are boarding up their stores.
02:45:30.820
As if I heard a thing on one on one broadcast, I don't remember what chaos will break out.
02:45:44.220
It's like when a five year old drops, spills grape juice on a white tablecloth.
02:46:03.760
And that's if they don't actually blame right wing.
02:46:07.600
And the shocking thing, too, is that this is these are not riots of the of the lower orders.
02:46:12.260
These are riots inspired by the richest, most successful, most powerful people among us, inspired and encouraged by media giants, by Amazon, by Netflix.
02:46:23.800
It's speeding into a narrative that makes people enraged at their country and makes people feel that this is an evil place.
02:46:30.420
The very people who have succeeded most here are the ones who are selling this now.
02:46:34.220
So there's a phenomenon that I've been thinking about for a while here.
02:46:37.320
There's an author named Nicholas Nassim Tlaib who writes about this called renormalization.
02:46:40.620
And it's how fringe ideas are basically wandered into majority propositions.
02:46:45.840
And I think that's what we've been watching with regard to the tolerance for rioting and looting by this small group of people.
02:46:52.220
The basic idea here is that the if you have, let's say to do this briefly, let's say that you have a family and one of the members of the family is vegetarian.
02:47:01.860
And they say, OK, I can only vegetarian, but you can eat what you want.
02:47:05.460
The mom is going to make one meal and it's going to be vegetarian for everybody because she doesn't have time to make two meals.
02:47:09.040
And then you take that family and you put them in a block party and they say, we eat vegetarian for our daughter.
02:47:14.400
So you can make one meal or you can make two meals.
02:47:17.100
It's the same thing with regard to the rioting and the looting.
02:47:19.020
If you have one intransigent and radical group that refuses to go along with any silent majority proposition,
02:47:24.840
they can mobilize entire contingents of large based companies who refuse to say no because you have very much a sort of concentrated benefit to rioting and looting.
02:47:41.480
And until the American people say the diffuse downside.
02:47:46.140
This is one of my gripes with some of our friends who remain never Trump.
02:47:49.320
David French, John Piper, Mitt Romney, some of these guys who, you know, John Piper and David French,
02:47:55.140
I think, have articulated this point of view the most eloquently over the over the past few weeks.
02:47:59.820
But what they really object to, they'll say Donald Trump doesn't have character.
02:48:03.680
And we all know that Donald Trump doesn't have traditional virtues as we might describe them.
02:48:08.860
But as we've discussed online, he does have virtues.
02:48:11.220
It's a different set of virtues and an important set at that.
02:48:13.860
Not seizing power during COVID, an aversion to violence that we haven't seen in a chief executive really since Ronald Reagan.
02:48:23.260
They were virtues that were missing in our chief executives most recently in our history.
02:48:31.800
And there is an important role in the world for decency.
02:48:34.800
There's an important role in the world for niceness.
02:48:36.720
There's an important role in the world for kindness.
02:48:40.760
And one of the things that's happened with, I think, the Christian church, I suspect, the Mormon church,
02:48:46.380
I suspect to some degree the Jewish community as well,
02:48:51.360
is that since the 80s, we've started to pivot away from hard theological truths
02:48:56.320
and pivot toward niceness as a replacement for religion.
02:49:01.680
And this is why evangelicals, by the way, now are more likely to be socialist
02:49:05.840
than to believe in concepts like the infallibility of Scripture,
02:49:09.880
which I'm not advocating for the infallibility of Scripture necessarily,
02:49:13.640
but it's certainly a long-held Christian belief that you would expect the evangelical church to adhere to.
02:49:18.680
And yet instead they're leaning toward socialism.
02:49:20.800
Why? Well, because their religion has been reduced down to niceness.
02:49:26.220
And by the way, you know, I've devoted my life,
02:49:30.180
and I'm finishing volume three of my five-volume commentary on the Torah.
02:49:35.060
Like, my wife reads it every Shabbat. It's fantastic.
02:49:38.540
Thank you for that. Give her a big hug from me.
02:49:43.900
We're going to talk about how I'm taking you to Florida with me.
02:49:58.080
By the way, there is no biblical word for nice.
02:50:03.880
And my friend Jeremy Boring, I wish he could be here with us today,
02:50:10.080
You have pointed out frequently that Jesus isn't all that nice.
02:50:33.660
I've often said I want to write a book called Jesus the Jerk.
02:50:36.580
The way that Jesus treats people out of love, but biblical love isn't sentimentality.
02:50:43.300
Biblical love means that you speak to people truthfully.
02:50:46.200
You tell them what's in their best interest to hear.
02:50:48.120
Love, from a biblical point of view, would be telling someone the thing that no one else
02:50:54.040
Also, you know, there are virtues for the moment.
02:50:58.440
The thing about Donald Trump that I think has struck me from the very beginning is that
02:51:02.040
I'm sorry it takes a man like Donald Trump to do what he has to do.
02:51:06.580
I just don't think another kind of man, a nicer man, a more elegant man, would have
02:51:15.040
The issue, the never Trumpers, a guy called my radio show today, and he was so sincere
02:51:22.600
And he just said, please, Dennis, explain to me never Trumpers.
02:51:30.640
And I said to him that in truth, I still do not.
02:51:34.480
I cannot explain why God made the mosquito and I cannot explain never Trumpers.
02:51:40.320
They are tied for first place among the riddles of life.
02:51:44.360
How do you recognize the damage the left is doing to America and be a never Trumper?
02:51:50.560
You know, to be slightly kinder to some of them, because I think we're friends with all
02:51:55.100
I think that I will make a division between people who have basically decided that they
02:51:59.100
have withdrawn from politics out of mere disgust at everything there is political.
02:52:02.580
And they're like, I'm just not going to vote versus the people like the Lincoln Project
02:52:10.820
So if he's talking about the Lincoln Project, there's Democrats for it.
02:52:13.460
I mean, honestly, I have no other way of putting it.
02:52:16.600
Max Boot, who used to publish me in the Wall Street Journal.
02:52:20.160
Yeah, he wrote a couple of great books on the war.
02:52:23.440
And he is he is the child of refugees from the Soviet Union or he came from the Soviet Union.
02:52:36.320
My mother would have said, wash your mouth out with soap.
02:52:39.540
In fairness, the only difference between Donald Trump and Stalin is about 20 million people.
02:52:48.480
OK, so, Dennis, let's talk about why you're staying here in this hellhole state.
02:52:54.060
And I will tell you, I've been gone for like a month.
02:53:04.800
Why are you paying your extraordinary levels of taxation to this hellhole state so that they
02:53:43.700
I think what you're saying is actually important.
02:53:47.680
One of the things, you know, it distresses me from time to time, the business that we're
02:53:52.200
There's something unpleasant about the business that we're all in, right?
02:53:54.560
And we referred earlier to Moses not getting to go into the promised land and David not
02:54:00.380
There's a cost that you pay to wield certain kinds of influence, a cost to leadership,
02:54:05.620
a cost to wealth, a cost to fame, cost to the kinds of influence that we've built with
02:54:12.540
We play in a space where we focus on politics as the most important thing that we talked
02:54:19.580
about, but politics is not the most important thing that there is.
02:54:22.880
It's a fundamentally left-wing premise to think that politics is the most important thing.
02:54:26.340
Of course, the most important thing are the people in your life, the people you have, the
02:54:34.240
You know, I've written a book on happiness and I'm not mentioning it to sell the book.
02:54:46.060
I'm saying it because I have known from an early age how important happiness is, the moral
02:54:54.020
And here is where I do an hour every week on my radio show called the happiness hour.
02:55:07.120
And every week I say, OK, it's the happiness hour because the happy make the world better
02:55:16.060
And I while the hour is not political on other hours of my show, I have noted I have never
02:55:25.280
I have met happy and unhappy liberals, happy and unhappy conservatives.
02:55:31.620
The moment you become happy, you leave leave leftism.
02:55:46.880
I think that one of the problems in religion, one of the problems with charity, you know,
02:55:51.300
is that it's very easy to dehumanize people you don't have to interact with.
02:55:55.560
So people love to give money to Africa or they love to give money to in foreign contributions,
02:56:01.100
but they don't want to actually give money to their brother who they loaned money to five
02:56:07.180
And it's a little bit of a drinking problem because he's a real human to them.
02:56:11.080
They're able to you're sort of able to idealize people you don't know.
02:56:14.980
And one of the problems that I see in politics is we take the actual communities that we are
02:56:22.080
We take the community we are actually in and we lessen its value to us in favor of these
02:56:28.120
abstract communities of strangers who agree with us, who like us on social media, thumbs
02:56:37.080
And as all of us do, she got riled up about something that someone we know said on Facebook.
02:56:44.440
But in that moment, I realized like that was my that was my across the street neighbor when
02:56:48.180
I was growing up, like when I was a small child and I would ride my bicycle in the street
02:56:54.360
That's the actual person who would have come out and cared for me.
02:56:57.540
And politics would have been meaningless in that situation.
02:57:00.220
And because of the sort of evil temptation of politics, we're dehumanizing those people
02:57:19.840
I mean, I have contempt for humanity and love humans.
02:57:27.980
I find something incredibly beautiful as a race.
02:57:34.600
So we're going to get an update from our daily wire war room on what's happening in the various
02:57:40.340
I know as much as you love our insight, what you care the most about, who's about to beat
02:57:45.020
So, Alicia, tell us what's happening out there.
02:57:50.480
I mean, what is fascinating is I'm hanging out in this war room with all the people that
02:57:54.760
are gathering all the data, that understand all the data, like our very own editor, Ian
02:57:59.460
And when I hear him say, wow, wow, wow, and I'm like, what happened?
02:58:07.360
I mean, especially as an English person, if I share any emotion at all, you're like, okay,
02:58:11.620
So after it looks like Florida was going in the direction of Trump, fingers crossed
02:58:15.380
there, we took a sigh of relief, blood pressure went down a little bit.
02:58:18.020
Now we're looking towards Georgia and North Carolina.
02:58:19.900
So we've got some data here, which we found is fascinating.
02:58:23.000
So New York Times projection for Georgia is 85% Trump, and the New York Times projection
02:58:33.460
Georgia, 24% reporting, and Biden is outperforming Clinton by more than 10% in Fulton County,
02:58:39.880
So we should take that with a pinch of salt, because if they have huge turnout there, Stacey
02:58:43.320
Abrams, you know, the governor of Georgia, Queen of Narnia, whatever her position is,
02:58:47.100
she's pushing pretty hard for some votes to turn out there.
02:58:55.640
Holding our breath, because if those go Trump's way, this night's looking better.
02:58:58.900
Well, I mean, we already said that if Florida went his way, which it is, it was going to
02:59:05.120
I mean, you have been looking at the data in Georgia.
02:59:07.760
So you're saying, like, fascinating that the projections are showing that it could be trending
02:59:11.860
Trump, but you're still waiting on the Atlanta area?
02:59:17.400
Same as, like, Florida with Miami-Dade, I want to see Biden perform weaker there before
02:59:25.400
Well, I mean, we have some Daily Wire members that are probably in the middle of celebrating
02:59:32.020
We'll come back to you guys when we have more updates, we promise.
02:59:35.300
And for right now, we're going to get some member questions, because people definitely
02:59:39.020
First of all, my mom wants to know if I have done ecstasy, and that's a hard no.
02:59:43.820
Just letting Nana know there, no pot, no ecstasy, none of the things, never been to Coachella,
02:59:53.280
Wanted to toss a question to Dennis Prager, if we can, because we have some awesome Daily
03:00:00.480
And they want to know, from the great Dennis Prager, how long are you staying in California?
03:00:10.540
But, Dennis, is it actually possible to turn California?
03:00:13.980
Do you think, like Dave Rubin was saying earlier, are enough people disgusted with Eric Garcetti
03:00:18.860
and Gavin Newsom that we could see a trend in, you know, two Republicans here?
03:00:23.860
I don't see it, because this is a puzzle up there with the mosquito issue.
03:00:34.580
Why don't people hold the left responsible for what they do?
03:00:51.020
It's rich, the greatest weather literally on Earth, with the possible exception of Perth
03:00:59.480
The greatest weather on Earth, the greatest natural resources, including farming.
03:01:21.700
The right is held responsible for what it doesn't do.
03:01:28.360
We blame, by the way, we blame coronavirus on the president.
03:01:33.960
Why doesn't, why didn't the Republican Party take out ads?
03:01:37.980
Then do you blame the Belgian prime minister for the fact that there are more deaths per million
03:01:44.260
Do you blame every country's leaders for the coronavirus deaths or only America's leader
03:01:51.120
So, Dennis, I'm going to say Dennis Prager back to you because you know the answer to
03:01:55.060
your own question, which is this is a religious worldview.
03:02:00.820
If leftism doesn't perform, it's because it has not been sufficiently tried.
03:02:04.480
If Donald Trump is in office, then you get to blame everything bad that happens on Donald
03:02:09.040
And if Hillary Clinton had been in office, then it would have been she saved two million
03:02:18.220
All I had to do was cite a man named Dennis Prager.
03:02:25.500
Dennis, if you'll stick around with us, we have another good treat for our Daily Wire viewers
03:02:29.580
right now, and that is that we are joined by and also joining because of the magic of
03:02:35.960
I don't know who gets to take credit for it, but, you know, as long as it's me talking,
03:02:39.760
We're being joined currently by our good friend, Stephen Crowder, who is also live all night
03:02:50.000
Well, I tried to call in, and then Dennis Prager over there was holding court for some reason.
03:03:03.020
Well, listen, I want to know what you guys expect tonight.
03:03:05.820
I went through why I think it's far more likely for Trump to win than not and how Biden actually
03:03:12.700
The only person who needs to run the board tonight is Biden.
03:03:14.980
Biden needs to win Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
03:03:17.160
He needs to win all of them if Trump holds on to North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, which
03:03:21.420
And I sort of contrasted this with the modeled party votes that we saw in states, and it was
03:03:28.700
Would we say, guys, to the letter with Florida thus far?
03:03:34.920
What's the feeling over there between the two Gentiles?
03:03:38.580
Well, I guess one Gentile and two and a half Jews.
03:03:41.640
So, as you know, actually, Dennis and I together add up to two Jews.
03:03:49.240
I'm like half, and Dennis is like a Jew and a half.
03:03:58.140
Wait, are you guys just going to avoid the incredible discomfort that Andrew Klavan converted
03:04:10.700
We'll see how it all comes out in God's ledger.
03:04:16.180
By the way, Klavan will be the first person to find out whether he was right or wrong in
03:04:23.300
So I think that the feeling in this room right now.
03:04:30.300
Cautious optimism, I think, is the feeling in this room.
03:04:35.460
Right now, they're saying that North Carolina looks like it's trending Trump.
03:04:41.140
Which means the next state that we're really going to find out about, Pennsylvania and Ohio.
03:04:54.400
Stephen, you spend more time than we do in the Rust Belt.
03:04:57.240
I mean, you have a lot of roots in Michigan and spend a lot of time there and war with
03:05:04.860
Tell us what you're thinking about those states.
03:05:10.380
Well, Ohio is not a swing state because if you look at the early voting, and I had this
03:05:14.060
up before, actually Donald Trump won Ohio by, I believe it was eight points last go around.
03:05:18.560
But actually, Democrats outnumbered Republicans in 2016, which means there was a huge portion
03:05:24.060
of Democrats who voted for Trump, registered Democrats.
03:05:26.640
And even now with the early voting, without any of today's voting in, we're already seeing
03:05:30.640
Republicans with a pretty wide margin in Ohio versus Biden.
03:05:36.120
So if you believe that Democrats will come out today and vote, outvote Republicans three
03:05:42.340
Now, outside of that, Michigan, there's about a four point spread when you look at the modeled
03:05:47.960
But again, Donald Trump won that where he was down about four points.
03:05:50.980
Again, so that would mean that if he's down four points, he could be up seven, really,
03:05:57.220
in Michigan, because a lot of Democrats will vote for Donald Trump.
03:05:59.660
Now, I don't know that Donald Trump will be victorious in Michigan or Pennsylvania.
03:06:03.560
I don't think we'll know Pennsylvania until we look in every single ditch and find a few
03:06:12.240
Logically speaking, if Donald Trump hangs on to North Carolina and Georgia, which everyone
03:06:17.740
And I said, I'm very, very confident in Florida and Ohio long before Georgia and North Carolina.
03:06:31.500
And I also would be surprised to see Arizona go to Biden.
03:06:35.240
Trump just needs to win either Pennsylvania or Michigan.
03:06:38.980
If that map that I just laid out for you remains true, guess what?
03:06:47.580
What do we think is more likely that Donald Trump keeps the states that we've all agreed
03:06:51.360
upon here and wins either one Michigan or Pennsylvania or that Biden runs the entire blue
03:06:58.740
I think the former is more likely and Michigan could go either way.
03:07:04.020
But I don't think Ohio is too close for comfort, Ben.
03:07:06.080
I don't want to say that you're a defeatist, but come on, there's no way Ohio is going for
03:07:11.000
I'm still getting over Ben Shapiro being cautiously optimistic.
03:07:19.380
Cautiously optimistic for Ben is still very negative.
03:07:24.640
Stephen, I have a question for you that transcends the political.
03:07:34.180
This is a wonderful, actually, I'm going classic.
03:07:36.900
This is a .357 Magnum, Smith & Wesson Model 686.
03:07:40.840
It's an old revolver that carries seven shots of .357 Magnum and some moon clips in here.
03:07:55.620
I wore it once for open carry, and I came home, and my wife just got very comfortable.
03:08:05.140
My wife likes suspenders, but who am I, Larry King?
03:08:08.840
So I just wear the open carry, and my wife likes it.
03:08:14.180
And it makes me look tougher than anyone else on this stream, which is good, which is really all I was aiming for.
03:08:18.940
If you didn't look tougher than the people on this stream, you'd be in real trouble.
03:08:30.460
But I rarely give you compliments on the account of I hate you and all, and I got to see if he waterboarded that time.
03:08:37.060
You're a freaking giant who practices Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
03:08:40.880
I think that you're going to take good care of yourself.
03:08:46.620
But that being said, in the street, I've always avoided physical altercations, and I will say this to anyone who tells you this out there.
03:08:53.240
If it does come down to a physical altercation, I'll take a gun.
03:08:55.780
Just like the whole Gracie family who created the UFC.
03:09:03.760
So, yeah, it's nice to roll around the mats and drunk uncle jiu-jitsu.
03:09:08.660
But otherwise, they're getting some .357 or my wall.
03:09:11.260
The real reason that he knows Brazilian jiu-jitsu is just because that's how he gets to know people and greets them.
03:09:16.760
Literally, the first time he came over to my house, he put me in a headlock and put me in a sleeper hole.
03:09:25.260
Ben, correct that lie because you're an honest guy, and I don't want the alt-right people to go out there with ammo and perpetuating a negative stereotype.
03:09:36.560
And you forgot to mention that you had a hernia.
03:09:54.560
And then I was outside of Ben Shapiro's apartment going, I think you live where they shot the original Karate Kid.
03:10:00.460
Steven and I have the weirdest non-sexual S&M relationship.
03:10:06.160
Like the first time we got together in a room, he put me in a headlock, and then I watched him be waterboarded.
03:10:11.840
And frankly, we just need to stay out of the same state, isn't it?
03:10:17.000
I was at Ben Shapiro's, and I thought we would never talk again.
03:10:19.620
Because Ben Shapiro put me up for, I won't name it specifically, but he put me up, he recommended me, he was very nice, for a morning radio drive show.
03:10:26.000
Where it was like a news show, and he said, here, he had his whole, I think his show was in Orlando, he had his whole radio set up.
03:10:31.520
And then, like, the day before I did it, I was going to go, I'm going to do what this show is.
03:10:35.360
And they said, we don't want any opinion, it's straight news.
03:10:37.760
And I bombed in Ben Shapiro's den so badly that I remember sitting there for five minutes before I opened the door just because I didn't want to look Ben in the face.
03:10:49.880
I was like, you looked me in the eyes, and then they told me to do straight news.
03:10:55.380
They were like, what, Ben said, what did you know?
03:11:08.720
Let's just focus in again on the fact that you have a wife and I have a wife and all that.
03:11:15.120
Let's focus on the fact that you have a very, very good-looking wife, Ben.
03:11:24.200
Hey, by the way, by the way, I just saw Ben Shapiro's sister for the first time three days ago.
03:11:41.080
A friend of mine met the president for the first time.
03:11:53.540
This was basically the entirety of the dialogue because they posed for a picture.
03:11:57.540
And he said to the president, my daughter is currently interning, which she is, at the White House.
03:12:06.040
And Trump looks at the guy with total seriousness and says, I hope she got her looks from your wife.
03:12:18.140
Hail to the chief began playing in the background.
03:12:32.340
So we taped this video the other day where I was asking people about Charlottesville, very fine people on both sides.
03:12:44.180
Of course I know it's Virginia and Charlotte, North Carolina.
03:12:49.120
So I want to make sure that I'm clear about that.
03:12:51.600
But what happened was, I don't remember what I was going to say.
03:12:56.080
There was a lady saying that Donald Trump was sexist.
03:12:59.400
And you believe that, and half Asian bill my lawyer will like this.
03:13:06.600
And I said, OK, but you believe that Biden does?
03:13:08.860
And I did all of these equations in my head, I swear to you, within two seconds.
03:13:12.940
I was this close to just leaning into her and going and sniffing her.
03:13:21.300
But then I said, wait, that would be absolutely hysterical because I could get sued for doing
03:13:26.400
However, I don't want to be locked up in lawsuits.
03:13:28.140
So maybe I'll just say, what if I sniffed you right now?
03:13:30.780
And I felt like that would undercut the argument.
03:13:33.420
But all of those calculations in about four seconds, I just want to lean and go.
03:13:37.120
The maturity, the mature, watching the maturing of Stephen Crowder.
03:13:49.500
Three years ago, I would have just been I would have sniffed her.
03:13:56.760
Stephen, thanks for hanging out with us tonight.
03:14:00.900
I'm hopeful that you know more about the Rust Belt than we do.
03:14:05.080
I'm hopeful that your way of looking at this is the right way, because I think the one
03:14:07.940
thing we all know is that that hair sniffer cannot be the president of the United States.
03:14:18.580
Well, I mean, the way that Trump is performing with Hispanics in Texas, I'm a lot more positive
03:14:29.660
That that we've said might be the biggest ever for Republicans.
03:14:33.640
So it is in Florida, but we don't have enough stats.
03:14:36.080
And we are seeing some movement be significant.
03:14:37.960
We're seeing some we're seeing some movement, not really in Georgia, as far as I've seen
03:14:41.060
the North Carolina, some of the some of the majority black district.
03:14:43.860
Hey, hey, Mensa members, let's stay on Arizona.
03:15:04.400
And thanks to all of our friends at the Blaze and Lattery.
03:15:13.160
By the way, Tom Tillis is running a little ahead right now of President Trump's vote total
03:15:17.740
We haven't paid any attention to the Senate races thus far.
03:15:22.600
But that was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
03:15:24.520
The ones to keep an eye on tonight are Tom Tillis in North Carolina.
03:15:28.540
You want to keep an eye on Susan Collins in Maine.
03:15:31.260
And I think that our friends in the war room are ready to give us an update on what's actually
03:15:45.860
And then we're going to toss it to Cassie in just a moment for some social media checkmark
03:15:52.040
So we let you know earlier, Florida is still looking very good for President Trump.
03:15:55.320
Again, going to take a near miracle for Biden to pull that off.
03:15:58.000
Now moving a little bit more north, Georgia also looking very good for President Trump.
03:16:04.180
The president is up about 15 points and we're still waiting for more votes to come in from
03:16:08.460
Fulton County, where Biden is about 80 percent.
03:16:11.760
So now the real question becomes how much ground is he able to make up in Fulton County,
03:16:15.280
Gwinnett County, Marietta County, all Biden strongholds.
03:16:18.500
He's going to have to just hope that voter turnout is high enough to keep him there.
03:16:22.460
The New York Times, though, is projecting, if you believe their projections, 81 percent
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chance of a victory for Trump in Georgia, moving up a little bit more to North Carolina.
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The New York Times projection there, 86 percent chance of a Trump victory in North Carolina,
03:16:37.820
The president does trail by about three percentage points at the moment.
03:16:40.640
But a big part of that is what the expected votes are going to be coming a little bit later.
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Florida, again, looking like an almost sure Trump victory.
03:16:47.900
In Virginia, interesting situation playing out.
03:16:49.860
Right when the polls closed, Fox News was the only polling service or only news outlet
03:16:56.680
However, a lot of other outlets are holding off on calling it because right now, President
03:17:00.460
Trump is up 20 points with 40 percent reporting.
03:17:03.100
And some of those counties, the reason people are holding off on holding some of the northern
03:17:06.500
counties, Arlington County, Prince George County, other ones like that, Prince William
03:17:10.180
County, other counties like that, traditionally places you'd expect Biden to perform.
03:17:13.560
Wasn't a huge voter turnout in some of those counties.
03:17:15.940
So we're waiting for a lot of absentee ballots to come in.
03:17:23.140
But Virginia, much closer than people were expecting.
03:17:25.460
Finally, the Republicans have lost their first seat in the Senate.
03:17:28.180
Cory Gardner in Colorado wasn't polling well and, as expected, has lost.
03:17:44.820
A lot of outlets have already called Alabama, as you can see on the map over there.
03:17:50.300
And to update you here now about what's happening on social media, we have our very own Cassie
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So right now on social media, all the talk is Florida.
03:17:58.420
The left is very mad at Florida right now, to where the Daily Show has even put out a
03:18:06.400
And then we also have Nicole Hannah-Jones of the 1619 Project announcing her next writing
03:18:13.060
She wants to write a piece about how the Latino community is contrived of ethnic category
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that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous Guatemalans,
03:18:22.920
So I guess the Cuban vote is now canceled out of the Hispanic community, according to Nicole
03:18:32.700
But our lovely White House press secretary said that she's excited for the surge for President
03:18:38.500
Trump in the Latino community, and it's happening right now, primarily in Miami.
03:18:41.960
And just one more quick update, it looks like the violence that was happening outside of
03:18:47.020
Washington, D.C., outside of the White House, has now kind of slowed down, and now it's a
03:18:52.900
And so we'll see how long the dance party continues when we have more results coming in.
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Although I have to say that I've never agreed with the left that words could be violence.
03:19:03.840
Violence is just violence, like violence is when someone's fist connects with your chin.
03:19:07.080
Now that I've seen that line dancing, I'm willing to reassess all of my previous positions
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on what constitutes violence and what does not.
03:19:15.160
Henry Olson, who's one of the best poll watchers I know, a very honest, you know, he's a conservative,
03:19:20.280
but very honest, never lets his bias get in the way.
03:19:27.720
Last election, he was the closest to forecasting a Trump victory.
03:19:32.120
And he said, Biden's going to be a very comfortable win in the Washington Post.
03:19:37.480
He's starting to, he says, he says, I don't like to eat crow, but the more I look at the
03:19:41.320
data, the more I think I was too optimistic for Biden.
03:19:43.580
He's not calling for Trump, but he is dialing it back.
03:19:46.100
And that's that to me is very encouraging because he's just a smart, smart guy.
03:19:50.060
There's an interesting sidebar that I'd like to bounce off you.
03:19:54.820
I don't, this is not my own original thought, but I heard this many years ago and it turned
03:20:01.240
out, I think in the Carter race, that in every presidential race, the happier candidate
03:20:14.860
And it's a, it's a very interesting observation.
03:20:19.060
If the, if president Trump loses, that would be a, a, an exception to a pretty ironclad
03:20:29.040
Or do we grant that Mitt Romney was less happy than Barack Obama?
03:20:41.500
Uh, there's a certain, everybody acknowledges it.
03:20:50.900
Oh, I don't, that's, nobody knows who's truly happy.
03:20:53.900
So the, your psychiatrist may know, your spouse may know.
03:21:15.280
Well, it started because Reagan was the antithesis of Carter.
03:21:25.080
You know, you know, while, while was his, uh, the national malaise, his talk about, anyway,
03:21:29.320
has Jimmy, can you imagine if this is just a thought?
03:21:36.420
I mean, when you think about it, isn't that an interesting thing?
03:21:40.140
He was, he, he was a, he was a grim guy to begin with.
03:21:43.000
But after he lost that election, he became one of the most bitter characters.
03:21:48.920
So it, it, the other thing is, is another fascinating question, a sidebar again.
03:21:54.240
I have never seen the passion for a president as exists for Donald Trump.
03:22:04.720
And I love Ronald Reagan, but I never heard massive chanting.
03:22:10.580
This, I have the chills as I tell this to you, of people in, in cold weather, knowing COVID's
03:22:17.460
around, standing together in the tens of thousands.
03:22:24.160
One of them is, you mentioned in Florida, one is in Pennsylvania.
03:22:30.160
I have one son in one swing state and another in another swing state.
03:22:45.440
Redding, Pennsylvania had 15,000 or 20,000 people.
03:22:49.580
Oh, you, this is, this is, I'm going to send this to you.
03:22:59.160
That may be my favorite picture of American history.
03:23:05.880
Trump, who has, I will say, a somewhat casual relationship with the truth, has said some
03:23:14.320
And I think maybe the, the truest thing he ever said is they don't hate you because they
03:23:23.680
That is the, that, that, that, that's why there's the passion for Trump.
03:23:26.220
It really isn't even just because, you know, Trump is Trump and he's, and he's, and he
03:23:29.780
is goofy and he does funny things and he's a good standup comedian and he responds to
03:23:36.460
The outpouring of, of absolute scorn, hatred, people despise Trump and we're not falling
03:23:42.900
I think most Republicans, aside from, you know, a few of the people we were talking about
03:23:45.640
earlier, have not fallen for the trick of believing that the Democrats are only doing
03:23:49.080
that because they have disdain for his character personally.
03:23:51.700
We recognize that the minute that Donald Trump is off the national stage, they will turn
03:23:55.120
to whoever the next Republican is and that person will become the repository of all
03:23:58.940
evil, which is probably why Donald Trump was nominated in the first place in 2016 because
03:24:02.480
they did this to Mitt Romney in 2012 and we all went, hold up a second, you're doing
03:24:06.060
this to Mitt Romney, the most milquetoast human being ever to walk the planet.
03:24:09.600
And so we went, okay, we need somebody who's at least going to punch these people directly
03:24:14.000
And then they have gone so insane over Donald Trump that I think everybody who is even
03:24:18.820
remotely conservative looked at this and they went, wait a second, this isn't about
03:24:22.380
Like really deep in the cockles of your heart, it's not that you hate Trump and so you're
03:24:29.700
And so you hate Trump because Trump is just a stand in for me.
03:24:32.180
The evidence of this is that Donald Trump's character is probably the most widely known
03:24:38.220
character of any character in modern media, right?
03:24:41.820
Donald Trump has been famous 100% of the days of my life.
03:24:45.820
And not just like a little famous, like rap stars rap about him famous.
03:24:52.380
Like you could put Donald Trump in a movie and they did frequently.
03:25:08.020
They loved him right up until he decided to represent us.
03:25:11.620
That's only in that moment that they decided that there was a problem.
03:25:14.200
To me, to me, one of the most telling statistics in, in the last 10 years is the fact that so many
03:25:21.160
people were dying of opiate poisoning in the Midwest, in the middle of the country, that
03:25:26.160
our life expectancy, the life expectancy of Americans was dropping solely because of deaths
03:25:32.700
And nobody knew it until two Harvard researchers stumbled on it and were totally surprised.
03:25:38.840
That means that a vast number of our countrymen were dying and nobody knew because they were
03:25:46.560
But, and we, and even we on the right kept saying, yes, but your iPhones are cheaper because
03:26:01.700
Who's the most disappointing to me because he, he is a courageous, good man.
03:26:07.700
And, and so he, he, he asks, what is, what has Trump done to conservatism and the Republican
03:26:15.640
So this was asked to me for my local station in LA, AM 870.
03:26:22.040
And we had an event, Sebastian Gorka and Charlie Kirk and, and Larry Elder and I.
03:26:30.920
So we were on stage and the moderator said, so, okay, going to throw out a question.
03:26:35.820
You've got to answer with one sentence, which is tough.
03:26:40.540
And I go, what, what has, uh, what, what effect has, uh, as Donald Trump had on conservatives
03:27:00.340
So here I have been saying for 20 years, we are in a civil war.
03:27:05.160
And only one side is fighting because of Donald Trump.
03:27:11.980
No, I think this idea that he made America manly again, it's not so far off.
03:27:17.260
The idea that he walks around without a mask, he gets COVID, he shrugs it off.
03:27:23.880
You know, we were talking earlier about how one of the problems that's happened in religion
03:27:27.180
over the last 40 years in America is that we've redefined the love of God as sentimentality.
03:27:32.560
We've also redefined sin to where I genuinely believe that now the almost the definition
03:27:40.920
I think the church has basically said all things masculine are evil.
03:27:45.780
And the worst, the worst failures of the feminine are righteousness.
03:27:52.280
So it's almost like the, the worst, the, you know, of course there are negative aspects
03:28:00.160
The difference is they're now saying that even the positive attributes of masculinity
03:28:03.280
or sin and the most negative attributes of the feminine are righteousness.
03:28:08.220
And so to be able to say to conservatives, to be able to say to men that there is masculine
03:28:14.680
virtue, again, we can talk about how Donald Trump isn't the most virtuous person.
03:28:19.600
What we're really upset about is that he represents a different set of virtues and is
03:28:26.880
He doesn't have the kinds of virtues that we've come to admire, but he has in high measure
03:28:37.480
The people who, forgive me for the language, I don't know what goes on on the Daily Wire or
03:28:47.760
Oh, no, that's, that's way below our standards.
03:28:50.420
I've already, I've already said bullshit three times.
03:29:03.980
I will take, I will take, yes, waitress sandwiches with, with Dodd, right?
03:29:08.900
Well, by the way, it was advising Joe Biden on his VP pick.
03:29:14.320
And, and Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden really led all of the great character assassinations
03:29:22.700
The thing that people love about Trump is that Trump refuses to accept the premise of
03:29:27.880
And sometimes that means he rejects things that are actually true.
03:29:30.380
And that's irritating to people like me because, I mean, frankly, I don't think that
03:29:34.160
you should reject things that are true, but very often Trump will just refuse the premise
03:29:38.680
of a question in a way where you're like, no other Republican would actually have
03:29:42.860
So, for example, there was a lot that came out from that Bob Woodward book.
03:29:46.160
Most of it was stupid garbage, but there was one exchange that the left really played
03:29:49.360
up where Bob Woodward said to him something like, you know, you're, America has a real
03:29:54.220
policing problem with racism and America is kind of racist.
03:30:00.280
And, and I heard that and I was like, okay, like you gotta love that.
03:30:04.920
I mean, it's, it's hard not to love that a little bit as a conservative because the fact
03:30:07.540
is that every other Republican pays lip service to myths and Trump does not pay lip service
03:30:12.700
And so there are a lot of times in which that is so deeply necessary.
03:30:17.140
And you see his greatest successes are built on that, right?
03:30:18.940
His great success in the Middle East is built on refusing to buy into a prevailing myth and
03:30:22.760
just saying that that myth is just a myth, right?
03:30:25.180
And so like, so we all focus in, in the media and people who are Trump skeptical.
03:30:30.500
I think we focus on the times when he calls something a myth that isn't a myth, right?
03:30:35.520
It's the biggest crowd size ever, but his, his refusal to accept the premise of nearly
03:30:39.460
any question that is asked of him adversarially means that many of the questions that are
03:30:43.260
asked to normal Republicans adversarially and they accept the premise, he refuses to accept
03:30:50.300
One of the things I love is that he won't, he won't grant disingenuous questions ever in
03:30:58.040
You know, I'm reading Charles Murray's book on the differences between men and women and
03:31:01.460
they, women are, as I argued many years, are more amiable.
03:31:12.400
Our allies have depended completely upon American money and, and know how to guard them while they
03:31:20.580
So he says, excuse me, you made a deal that you spent X amount of your GD.
03:31:29.060
Why should an American leader not say that to our allies in NATO?
03:31:37.860
They used to, they used to put this thing out about Trump that he doesn't, he doesn't
03:31:42.440
And I would talk to people, you know, just ordinary working guys.
03:31:45.580
And they would say to me, he doesn't pay his bills because people don't do the work
03:31:51.160
I will say I'm, I'm very friendly with a guy who's been one of Donald Trump's
03:31:54.840
real estate attorneys for, you know, his entire career, very high end hotel, a hotel
03:32:02.060
And he says that Donald Trump is a bit of a Scrooge.
03:32:05.380
He says that he, he, in the Trump organization, he would have to approve $500 expenses at hotels,
03:32:12.220
which if you think about the size of his organization, it's remarkable personally, but
03:32:16.620
He said, but I will tell you every time he ever brought me to New York, which is dozens
03:32:21.020
of times over the years, flew first class car, pick me up, car, pick me up at the, brought
03:32:26.960
He take, you know, he, he would lavish upon us in that way, but he didn't want to be frivolous
03:32:33.480
with his money on the other side and maybe held on a bit too tight in that regard.
03:32:37.180
And listen, I never want to be guilty of covering over what we know our character failings of
03:32:45.040
I think that it, that's not the criterion of measuring who should be president.
03:32:57.880
He not only committed adultery and had a child with that woman, but had the husband basically
03:33:07.400
He is the, he is the ancestor of our Messiah, all collective.
03:33:10.760
A man, a man after God's own heart, a man after God's own heart is what the Bible says
03:33:16.820
I actually said this on Twitter today that the, you know, people are saying, some people
03:33:21.620
are saying the Christian church is failing because it supports now Donald Trump.
03:33:24.900
When in 20, uh, in 1997 or 1998, they went all in to say the character is destiny and condemn
03:33:32.760
But the problem with that argument is it actually assumes that the evangelical church in 1998 was
03:33:38.800
operating a good faith, but the church in 1998 was being political.
03:33:47.160
Bill Clinton deserved to be perjured because he broke the law.
03:33:49.600
I'm sorry, deserved to be impeached because he broke the law and committed perjury.
03:33:54.520
And so the evangelical church pursuing its policy preferences constructed a theological argument,
03:34:00.160
which is false, which is that God judges a nation based on the moral character of its
03:34:05.500
leader exclusively, which is, you cannot find a single biblical, uh, you can't find an American
03:34:14.800
Actually, who, who is, who did God choose to let the Israelites into Canaan?
03:34:19.220
He could have picked a Canaanite accountant, a Canaanite priest, a Canaanite saint.
03:34:28.840
There's got to be a part of the part of the message is that God is God and that the
03:34:34.200
virtue, the virtue of a person does not make them more than what God is.
03:34:40.380
He uses the sinful because that first of all, because that's the only people he can use,
03:34:45.440
But also as a way of saying, I am the one who's delivering you into Canaan.
03:34:50.560
I'm the one who's giving you the land of promise.
03:34:52.420
So long as recognizing the complexity of human beings doesn't mean dismissing the sin of
03:34:59.300
And I'm not saying that the character of a leader cannot affect the destiny of a country.
03:35:18.500
One of the major biographers of Martin Luther King has already come out with it.
03:35:23.800
And it's going to come out when the papers come out.
03:35:31.240
You know, it's really interesting to me just listening.
03:35:33.460
There's a lot of IQ points in this room and then me and Jeremy.
03:35:36.540
And all of us are sitting here having serious conversations about scripture and God.
03:35:43.280
And every one of us, I happen to know for a fact, measures ourselves according to how
03:35:48.060
we are moving toward God or away from God or what we're doing in God's eyes.
03:35:52.820
That idea is completely ridiculed by our friends on the left, especially among the elites.
03:35:59.520
You never see a serious conversation about that in the New York Times.
03:36:03.100
Oh, they mocked Amy Coney Barrett for saying it.
03:36:04.640
Amy Coney Barrett said that she was trying to live a godly life and then serve God in
03:36:09.240
And they said, oh, that means you're a theocrat.
03:36:11.700
And I don't know what I don't know what Donald Trump believes in his heart of hearts, but
03:36:14.720
at least he's why I think he has become religious, you know, course of the four years.
03:36:20.960
Honestly, like they were like, you're such an atheist godly.
03:36:28.820
Please, folks, on the internet, my column from 10 years ago, how the left keeps me religious.
03:36:34.880
Somebody somebody told me that that God made Donald Trump president to save his soul.
03:36:42.960
By the way, worth noting, 538 says that right now, the way that North Carolina, Georgia,
03:36:47.280
Florida are trending, the way that the Hispanic vote is trending in Texas and now maybe in
03:36:50.700
Arizona, they're saying it's now a 50-50 toss-up election.
03:36:57.140
I mean, which means that it's all going to be horrific for a week, right?
03:37:00.780
Because if it's a 50-50 toss-up election, it comes down to Pennsylvania and you have
03:37:04.460
the mess of Pennsylvania, it's all going to be lawyers.
03:37:06.960
It's going to be lawyers in the Supreme Court in a mess.
03:37:09.020
So anytime there's a mess, the person whose point of view I want is Megyn Kelly.
03:37:13.920
And that is because there are a lot of IQ points in this room and ain't none of us as
03:37:20.420
None of us as smart as our friend Megyn Kelly, who is back with us again right now.
03:37:24.120
Megyn, thanks for making some more time for us tonight.
03:37:28.440
I'm following the 538 so-far debacle, as Ben just mentioned.
03:37:34.020
It is crazy how much faith people put in these pollsters.
03:37:37.260
And look, I don't know how this night is going to shake out, but it certainly appears that
03:37:40.320
Nate Silver, the guy of the pollsters on the left, completely blew Florida.
03:37:46.720
That's the one polling outlet that has been predicting Trump is going to win this race tonight.
03:37:51.060
What I'm seeing so far in Ohio does not bode well for Trump, but it's very early and the
03:37:57.400
It tends to go blue at first, and then it turns more red.
03:38:01.020
But their vote counts a little higher in Ohio, so I would be watching that one, because obviously
03:38:04.460
Trump's not going to win this race if he does not win Ohio.
03:38:10.200
Already, you've got people counting them as non-Hispanics.
03:38:14.180
They're basically white Hispanics, so they don't count them.
03:38:19.760
But hey, they voted, and they voted for Donald Trump, and it didn't just happen in Florida.
03:38:23.600
They're voting for him in other states right now, to the surprise of a lot.
03:38:29.180
There's somebody in Florida tweeting about this, that a top Democrat had complained to
03:38:33.020
him privately that it was the BLM support by Democrats there that turned off a lot of
03:38:37.480
Hispanics because they don't want to defund the police, right?
03:38:41.460
That they understand that that caused a lot of danger.
03:38:44.180
It caused a lot of danger in minority communities and elsewhere.
03:38:46.320
And, you know, this is sort of a liberal dream that they actually tried in Minneapolis,
03:38:59.480
And I think, you know, what we're seeing, we'll find out, because they'll ask, you know,
03:39:06.400
But if that actually pushed Hispanics to the, you know, polls for Trump, it's going to be
03:39:13.020
And the problem, please, just any of you know, I don't know the answer.
03:39:24.200
And I mean this sincerely, other than a leftist, who in Ohio is voting for Biden?
03:39:34.500
I think the big story of this election may be that Trump actually gets the inroads in
03:39:40.220
minority populations that we've always wanted to see a Republican get.
03:39:44.620
But he had losses among white voters that still managed to cost him the election, which
03:39:51.320
Will not validate the pollsters who've been so wrong so far tonight, but they'll be able
03:39:55.580
to live to fight another day because if Biden wins, it actually doesn't matter if they blew
03:40:01.120
They just get credit because they were, they made the ultimate top.
03:40:03.880
I think that's a major reason people don't tend to speak about this when they speak about
03:40:11.740
They really, excuse me, they really want everyone to go to college.
03:40:24.280
And listen, I don't think colleges, I don't think the university, I don't think the academy
03:40:42.040
And that's what PragerU is doing, where the academy is concerned.
03:40:44.520
It's what Daily Wire and Megan with her podcast are doing, where the media is concerned.
03:40:48.820
We have to figure out how to do it with entertainment.
03:40:52.600
If, if they own everything except the Supreme Court, then they, they will do whatever they
03:41:00.340
The story of this election so far, and obviously it's still early in the night, relatively speaking,
03:41:04.540
the story of the election is the shift in the Latino vote.
03:41:07.800
And, and what it really shows is that when it comes to the woke coalition, the strongest,
03:41:12.000
and we know this by polling data, the strongest members of the woke coalition are the white
03:41:16.940
They're the strongest members of the woke coalition.
03:41:18.200
Black Americans don't care about this woke crap, which is why they voted in favor of
03:41:22.000
Joe Biden over Bernie Sanders in the democratic primaries.
03:41:24.500
Latino Americans are sick to death of this crap.
03:41:27.120
The best tweet I've seen tonight is Republicans are winning the Latino vote and Democrats are
03:41:30.920
winning the Latinx vote because nobody calls themselves Latinx.
03:41:36.500
And it's, it's all these self-flattering and self-flagellating white people who think they're
03:41:41.040
going to lead minorities to the promised land by, by, by treating them as, as not fully
03:41:51.940
Megan, when you look at this right now, I mean, the media coverage so far, it seems
03:41:55.680
like people are really holding back at this point.
03:41:58.020
But we have seen some early indicators of the insanity from the Colhanna Jones and a couple
03:42:02.580
other reporters now reporting that Latino people are not Latino anymore.
03:42:06.620
Of course, you know, it's like a knee jerk reaction.
03:42:09.060
The fact that somebody like Nicole Hanna Jones gets the credibility she does, you know,
03:42:13.020
that her Pulitzer Prize has not been revoked for her joke of a 1619 project, which the
03:42:17.860
New York Times is slowly taking off with an eraser without announcing all the mistakes
03:42:24.520
Intentional lies might be another way to put it.
03:42:26.900
And then you've got Ibra Max Kendi, who was tweeting out when Amy Coney Barrett was nominated.
03:42:32.520
I'm just saying historically, when white people adopt black babies, instead of colonize and
03:42:38.020
exploit them, it's like, definitely not tying in, you know, directly to her.
03:42:42.220
Only it was two minutes after she was announced.
03:42:44.020
And these people are around and get paid thousands and thousands of dollars to educate white people
03:42:49.280
in various corporations and so on on how they are racist.
03:42:55.140
And so I do think, though, that the white suburban women have tended to be a problem for Trump.
03:43:01.580
And I think they, a lot of them, have bought into the woke messaging.
03:43:05.800
You know, they've been guilted so much by their neighbors that they're bigots and they're
03:43:14.380
By the way, you mentioned about revoking the Pulitzer Prize, Megan.
03:43:19.820
The New York Times has still held on to the Pulitzer Prize of 1934 for Walter Durante,
03:43:29.140
who denied that Ukrainians were being starved by Stalin.
03:43:39.300
Did you see the movie that came out about this?
03:43:46.520
I should bring up, by the way, first of all, I'd like to congratulate Megan on her
03:43:53.080
But secondly, I just want to point out that Ohio is closing very, very fast.
03:43:59.380
Yeah, they're saying that Trump has the momentum there in the final counties, and it looks like
03:44:05.980
So if he pulls out Ohio, then obviously the next look moves on to presumably Pennsylvania.
03:44:14.560
And that is, I mean, for the country, you've got to keep an eye on it.
03:44:18.460
North Carolina is still there, although the New York Times is saying that their needle
03:44:21.740
has him about an 80% shot to win North Carolina.
03:44:24.020
So if he wins North Carolina, it goes to Pennsylvania.
03:44:27.340
Given his performance in Ohio and North Carolina, that's very competitive.
03:44:30.900
You saw him close extremely fast in the polls in North Carolina.
03:44:33.420
In the polls, which have been systemically off, they're systemically off this year.
03:44:51.880
In Pennsylvania, we may be sitting around for days and days waiting to see you.
03:44:55.960
We may have you on an hour 78 of our nonstop coverage.
03:45:07.640
The judge's ruling in Pennsylvania is that if they will be allowed to open up ballots for how long after election day sent in and they do not have to have a postmark prior to the to the election day.
03:45:28.360
So the question is, right, if it's if it's smudged and if you see like a wide, you know, spate of 100,000 votes that are coming in all smudged post election, I have a feeling that's going to the Supreme Court.
03:45:40.380
They said that we're not going to rule on it right now because John Roberts is a coward who won't rule preemptively on anything that means that would put the legitimacy of the court in question.
03:45:47.420
Of course, not for seeing the possibility that the legitimacy of the court will be put gravely into question five days from now.
03:45:54.880
The he wants to be like I will say this for John Roberts.
03:45:57.700
It may be slightly more than he wants to be like.
03:46:00.120
I think he legitimately believes that the left will destroy the court if they make certain moves against the left.
03:46:09.780
The State Department legitimately believe that if America moves the embassy to Jerusalem, the Arab world will blow up.
03:46:19.340
But, Jeremy, that is still not that is not the chief justice's job.
03:46:22.920
He really, I know, the chief justice is trying to keep himself like the PR agent of the Supreme Court.
03:46:29.140
And maybe it's one consideration that he has that the associate justices don't have.
03:46:33.440
But really, his main duty is to uphold the Constitution.
03:46:36.560
You know, my husband, Doug, said it's his theory of good-looking Supreme Court justices.
03:46:48.680
And they go to the Georgetown cocktail parties, and they start to love being loved.
03:46:52.340
And before you know it, they go from over here to over here.
03:46:57.860
I can definitely get behind that because then I have a shot as long as you don't have to have gone to college, be a lawyer, be a judge, or really have any other qualifications.
03:47:09.800
Listen, I agree with you that it's not the job of the chief justice.
03:47:12.480
One thing that I love about the court swinging with the addition of Amy Coney Barrett, as far to the right as it has, is that that's actually not a partisan swing.
03:47:22.480
Like, having originalists on the court is supposed to be what the court is.
03:47:27.300
They should disagree about, like, the nuances of the law, not broad things like, do you have religious freedom?
03:47:33.440
Or broad things like, do you have freedom of speech?
03:47:36.120
That was never supposed to be what the court was about.
03:47:39.240
And so I know the left has redefined court packing to mean putting people on the court we don't like.
03:47:44.600
But we're actually the ones who are depoliticizing the court by putting originalists on there.
03:47:49.780
And the problem for George W. Bush with John Roberts is he put a partisan on the court.
03:47:57.860
That should be a good cautionary tale to us all.
03:48:01.400
I mean, I covered the John Roberts confirmation hearings wall to wall for Fox News.
03:48:04.740
I went down to the National Archives and read everything that guy ever wrote while he was with the Reagan administration.
03:48:11.920
And I will tell you, I did not see signs of this John Roberts.
03:48:15.000
I didn't see any signs of a potential suitor when I was researching Chief John Roberts.
03:48:19.580
He looked like he was born in his little crib with his little justice robe on, getting ready to become the Supreme Court Chief Justice one day.
03:48:26.520
He lived a life that was like, you know, sending him in there on like a fluffy cloud.
03:48:32.140
So in George W. Bush's defense, I don't think you could see it coming.
03:48:36.440
But I think you're right, because here's what Antonin Scalia used to say from the bench.
03:48:39.760
Because, you know, I practiced law for a long time, but I also covered the high court for three years sitting in that courtroom every day.
03:48:44.580
And Scalia used to say, you want to say that the founders who wrote this document, the Constitution, foresaw a constitutional right to privacy, to an abortion, to same-sex marriage even.
03:48:59.260
You go and convince the citizenry that that is how it should be.
03:49:04.120
You don't get nine unelected people in robes to reread it.
03:49:11.680
He was saying, go convince the electorate that it's time for such a right to be recognized, and then we'll amend it appropriately.
03:49:20.260
May I ask, Megan, I'd like to ask you a question.
03:49:22.820
Are you broadcasting, so to speak, from home now?
03:49:34.800
I recommend, seriously, people, even if they don't read them, have at least one room in their home with bookshelves,
03:49:50.560
This is a home that says ideas are important, a home with books.
03:49:57.120
I wish I could say I've read them all, but I –
03:50:01.060
My husband is a writer, and he took a lot of care in actually selecting which books he wanted up there,
03:50:07.760
the ones he's read and the ones he wants to read.
03:50:09.960
And kids are a little aspiring writers, too, so so far I'm so good.
03:50:13.220
And by the way, up until like 20 minutes ago, my nine-year-old daughter was here going through the New York Times update
03:50:21.360
And I have my own little bell hammer here working the billboard.
03:50:26.640
Something in these books may be sinking in, Dennis.
03:50:33.260
Megan, thank you again for making so much time for us tonight,
03:50:35.560
and congratulations again on your wonderful new podcast.
03:50:40.660
And meanwhile, Tom Tillis, too close to call in North Carolina.
03:50:45.080
Tillis and Cal Cunningham are separated with over 95 percent of the vote in by a grand total of,
03:50:50.420
I kid you not, 500 votes out of 2.7 million cast.
03:50:54.980
I was hoping it wouldn't be an ugly night, but it looks like it is going to be.
03:50:57.920
For that, I want to go to our Daily Wire war room and Elisha Krauss to look at the data.
03:51:06.520
I assume that Jeremy was trying to call me ugly right there,
03:51:10.320
but I think he was actually referring to what's happening with the House and Senate seats across the country.
03:51:14.740
We have an update right now with the electoral map and Daily Wire's own editor-in-chief,
03:51:24.420
and some things are looking really good for Trump that are not yet showing up on this map.
03:51:29.140
So if we could go back, we want to look at our original scenario.
03:51:33.560
We talked about at the beginning, how does Trump win this?
03:51:47.080
Georgia, he's now at, let's see, 86% chance of winning with a lot of the vote in, about 50%.
03:51:54.940
North Carolina, New York Times are projecting 95% chance of winning that.
03:51:59.900
So these are three of the absolutely essential states.
03:52:03.120
He's looking good in Ohio, and we're going to talk to Cabot about that.
03:52:13.480
What this means is if he can pull off these states, he's trending well in.
03:52:18.760
If he can get Pennsylvania, I'm sorry, and Arizona, he wins.
03:52:25.080
Both of those, he's pulled pretty well in Pennsylvania.
03:52:29.560
Key, we said at the beginning, this is going to be essential.
03:52:34.360
We've got a lot to watch, but there's reason to be optimistic.
03:52:37.260
There's a lot happening, and we're still waiting, of course, on final tallies in Georgia and North Carolina.
03:52:42.120
But as you guys have been saying, the predictions of the trends seem to be in the direction of a Trump-Pence win in those states.
03:52:50.060
And now we're going to take it to the other part of the war room where Cabot is going to be giving us an update
03:52:55.180
because we're starting to see a lot of data, guys, starting to come in from the important swing state of Ohio.
03:53:01.680
I jumped in a little bit early there because I was so excited to tell you about all the new data that we're getting in.
03:53:06.820
Ohio, one of the key states that people have been talking about, President Trump needs to have for his plausible map.
03:53:16.500
He took the lead there about 15 minutes ago, and since then he's been rapidly climbing.
03:53:20.400
North Carolina, John touched on it earlier, 85 percent reporting.
03:53:27.060
The New York Times projections, which we've been talking about all night,
03:53:29.740
they are now saying President Trump has a 95 percent chance of winning North Carolina.
03:53:33.860
And in Georgia, 47 percent reporting, still waiting for some of those larger counties surrounding Atlanta.
03:53:39.980
We're going to have to wait to see just how high the voter turnout has been in the surrounding counties around Atlanta.
03:53:46.660
In 2016, a lot of the betting markets gave a pretty accurate depiction of what was going on in the presidential election.
03:53:52.940
This year, throughout 2019 and 2020, especially after COVID, President Trump was a big underdog in the betting markets.
03:53:59.620
We can now tell you that President Trump is actually winning in most of the betting markets by a 2.5 to 1 margin.
03:54:05.560
So if you had money on President Trump, I would suggest maybe selling it now, maybe pulling out a little early if you want to get a quick profit.
03:54:12.160
But President Trump is up in the voting markets as well or in the betting markets as well.
03:54:16.480
So we're going to continue to monitor all of those states.
03:54:19.000
Another race that we're looking at very carefully is John James in Michigan.
03:54:22.780
This is a race that a lot of Republicans have looked at as a potential opportunity to pick up a seat for the Republicans.
03:54:29.000
Right now in Michigan, we have about 24 percent of the numbers.
03:54:34.920
Again, we're going to continue to update you as we get more information there.
03:54:38.860
Now, we're going to go to Wisconsin now where we've started to get some data in.
03:54:42.120
Ian was talking with me earlier about some of the results we've seen.
03:54:45.260
A lot of people were interested in what would happen in Kenosha.
03:54:47.880
And Ian was telling me earlier, Kenosha, what are the numbers we're at about now, about 68 percent?
03:54:52.380
So if we have a quick look at Kenosha right now, live on the New York Times website,
03:54:55.660
Donald Trump has practically double the number of votes as Biden.
03:54:59.540
And early on in 2016, that was a very, very close race.
03:55:02.420
So it turns down burning down your neighborhood and the Democrats just smiling along doesn't do great for the voting.
03:55:08.020
So interesting to watch that county, of course, in addition to the rest of Wisconsin.
03:55:12.800
So people have been asking a lot online about Virginia as well.
03:55:15.620
This is something people have been saying, why aren't we talking more about Virginia?
03:55:18.340
Again, to clarify for people just tuning in recently, right when the voting stopped in Virginia,
03:55:23.560
Fox News was the first news agency to call it for Joe Biden.
03:55:29.080
The results in Virginia have been incredibly close.
03:55:31.180
Right now, President Trump up 53 to 45 on Vice President Biden.
03:55:37.760
Now, one issue with that is there are a huge number of absentee ballots,
03:55:41.380
as well as early voting from northern Virginia and then down in Newport News, Virginia.
03:55:45.260
Those are two areas where Biden is counting on his strong areas for him.
03:55:50.320
So similar to Atlanta, where it's going to come down to voter turnout in Atlanta to see if Biden can turn the tide there.
03:55:54.880
And in Virginia, where he is expected to win, if he can drive up that voter turnout in northern Virginia,
03:55:59.240
down in Newport News, Virginia Beach, he's counting on it.
03:56:01.940
So, Alicia, we've got a lot of data to break down.
03:56:04.340
But right now, continues to be a positive night for the president so far.
03:56:12.240
And there are some people on Twitter and social media and even in the war room saying,
03:56:15.760
OK, if the data keeps trending this way, could Trump-Pence have a redo of 2016 where, you know, the polls everywhere are upset?
03:56:22.980
We will be sure to bring you guys more information as we get it.
03:56:32.400
We went into the night thinking this could be a two-hour broadcast.
03:56:36.460
The president outperformed the polls well beyond the margin of error in Florida.
03:56:40.840
And it is an actual force race across the country right now.
03:56:44.220
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03:57:02.400
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Well, the latest that I've seen is that it remains a horse race in Ohio.
04:00:20.220
Trump seems to be pulling into the lead in Ohio, so it looks like he's going to win Ohio.
04:00:23.520
The real question is whether the narrow nature of Ohio, which is narrower than it was last time,
04:00:28.460
is more of a tell for Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin, and whether that translates over.
04:00:33.880
By the way, worthy of note, Lindsey Graham has won his race in South Carolina.
04:00:39.160
Lindsey Graham 2.0 wins his race in South Carolina, and that is – they spent $100 million on that race.
04:00:45.580
$100 million to defeat Cocaine Mitch, $100 million to defeat Lindsey Graham.
04:00:50.740
They just flushed down the toilet, just right down the toilet.
04:00:53.360
This cigar is actually made out of their money.
04:00:57.440
So, guys, before we go any further, our good friend Glenn Beck, again, as with Louder with Crowder, this is a cross-stream.
04:01:05.100
I can't say he's coming on our show, and I can't say that we're going on his show.
04:01:09.160
It is somehow miraculously – they say you never cross the streams.
04:01:22.900
If I can just stop you here for just a second, and let me tell Ben, I was listening to you, Ben,
04:01:28.460
on our local affiliate, KLIF, that carries you in the afternoon.
04:01:32.180
I was listening to you today, and you brought to mind – because I'm listening to all these young people that were calling in,
04:01:40.060
and they were just confused by the polls, it seemed, because it wasn't reflecting reality in their life.
04:01:47.520
There were so many things that, in popular culture and things that we've always seen in the past,
04:01:53.980
that just didn't match up with the narrative for the media or the narrative from the polls.
04:02:00.720
Are we starting to see that come apart tonight?
04:02:04.920
It's so hard in this business or any other to make the connection between the anecdotal evidence and the data, right?
04:02:12.700
Because you get this data, and you assume that people are trying to put their best inputs into the data,
04:02:16.500
and it's still early, so we'll have to see – Florida's obviously a systemic polling error.
04:02:21.660
We still don't know how much it's going to be off in other places.
04:02:24.380
But it looks like it's all off, and it looks like it's all off in one direction.
04:02:27.180
And what that says to me is that less than people experiencing things –
04:02:33.140
In 2012, there were a lot of us saying, well, the enthusiasm for Romney is so high, he's for sure going to win.
04:02:38.860
Even more than that, it is that the absolute disconnect that is felt between our entire elite class,
04:02:44.960
between the entire college-educated pollster elite class and working-class white people,
04:02:51.080
working-class Hispanics, working-class black people is almost unbridgeable.
04:02:55.420
Because in 2012, I think they got it right because nothing changed fundamentally with the working class
04:02:59.600
or with black or Hispanic Americans in terms of their voting patterns.
04:03:01.920
But something is fundamentally shifting for the Republican Party and for Donald Trump,
04:03:07.920
There is something very serious that's happening, and it's a political realignment.
04:03:10.840
It's a class realignment, and it's a racial realignment.
04:03:14.300
And that actually bodes extraordinarily well for the Republican Party
04:03:17.160
because if Donald Trump is able to start pulling 35%, 40% of the Hispanic vote in the way that Bush was,
04:03:22.860
but he's not talking about immigration reform, right?
04:03:27.760
And if he's able to start pulling 15%, 20% of the black vote, even if he loses tonight,
04:03:31.460
it's going to be a lot easier for Republicans to pick up more of the suburban female vote
04:03:34.740
than it was for them to break into these brand-new voting blocs.
04:03:37.480
That kind of goes to a question I asked our panel earlier tonight on who, if Donald Trump were to lose tonight,
04:03:48.360
God forbid, but if he were to lose tonight, who can fill his shoes?
04:03:53.300
I was always against a Trump-Republican party, but the Republicans, I think they'd be excited in a way,
04:04:03.000
some of them, that Trump would lose so they could get back to their own crony kind of business.
04:04:08.160
And I'm not interested in that, and I don't think America is interested in that.
04:04:12.880
So does this survive and transcend Donald Trump?
04:04:17.000
Or if he would lose, is it back to the old party?
04:04:21.220
No, I think it does survive, and I think it transcends Trump because victory has a way of transcending.
04:04:24.920
So the fact that he's reshaped the map, even if he loses tonight, which we'll see, I'm starting to think he's going to win.
04:04:32.040
But even if he loses tonight, I think people are recognizing their vulnerabilities in the Democratic firewall
04:04:38.020
with regard to race and with regard to class that have been breached by Trump.
04:04:42.740
And I think that you're going to see a lot of candidates on the Republican Party side pour through that.
04:04:47.420
I don't think you're going to see a lot more of John McCain and Mitt Romney in the Republican Party's future.
04:04:50.880
I think you're going to see a lot more of people who are Trump-friendly than Nikki Haley's and the Ron DeSantis's.
04:04:56.880
And those are the elites of the Trump-friendly folks.
04:04:59.240
I think you're going to see a lot more of the Josh Howley types who are open populists.
04:05:04.100
I think that the style of the Republican Party has changed, and I think it's changed in a way that's actually –
04:05:08.220
may have been changed quite positively by Trump.
04:05:10.840
It's almost like when you have a piece that's bent out of place on a bicycle, like a bicycle spoke, and it's bent out of place.
04:05:18.940
You have to bend it too far the other direction in order to get it to bend where you actually want it to be.
04:05:22.820
And I feel like maybe that's what Trump is for the Republican Party.
04:05:25.840
What is the ballot number that you guys are voting on where you're actually reintroducing discrimination?
04:05:41.100
How do you think that's going to do in the election in California?
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And really, why the hell are you guys all still there?
04:06:02.360
If anyone gets credit for Trump winning Florida, it's me.
04:06:09.840
And Michael and I leave for our new homes in Nashville this week.
04:06:16.820
You know, you get old, you know, get old, Glenn.
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Hey, can I change the subject for just a minute and congratulate you on entering the Broadcasting Hall of Fame?
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Which would not be the Broadcasting Hall of Fame if you weren't.
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I think any, you know, my name is going to have the plaque on the, you know, the door of the broom closet.
04:06:42.160
You know, it's one of those things I never thought I would get into.
04:06:47.380
But now that I'm in it, it kind of cheapens it.
04:06:54.060
It's good to have humility, Glenn, but the truth of the matter is, and I say this often.
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I said it to Michael and Alan Estrin just this week.
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I think that you're the greatest living broadcaster.
04:07:04.880
You have a unique understanding of the medium that I think is just unparalleled by anyone currently in the industry.
04:07:14.960
If they had somehow opted not to put you in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame, the Radio Hall of Fame, then the thing would have absolutely no value.
04:07:22.260
Glenn, I want you to know that Alan and I did tell Jeremy he was completely insane.
04:07:34.800
Quick note, Josh Kroushauer, just a quick election notification.
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Josh Kroushauer with National Journal is calling Ohio for Trump.
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With the Election Day votes still left to count.
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If Donald Trump picks up Ohio, we are one state away.
04:07:54.160
Although the Hispanic turnout so far in the election would lead you to believe he may outperform in Arizona.
04:08:00.440
OK, if it's going to be Raiders of the Lost Ark, right?
04:08:03.200
I mean, this is going to be the unleashing of the godly force at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark for the media.
04:08:10.100
It's going to be just an infinite regression of us watching MSNBC.
04:08:28.760
Well, we've been talking all night about how we have to replace the legacy media, replace the legacy media.
04:08:41.680
It already is well on its way of burning itself down to the ground.
04:08:46.540
But I worry about their phase two, you know, their backup, which I think is actually their first plan.
04:08:55.080
I mean, you don't put as your vice president the one that every Democrat hated to back up a guy who everybody knows.
04:09:03.240
I mean, he's probably not going to make it to putting on Friday.
04:09:11.000
I think their plan here is to now create doubt and violence in the streets.
04:09:17.400
And that's very concerning to me because I've done enough homework on what they're planning through the transition integrity project, which is anything but.
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You guys concerned that, you know, I want to just say that one of one of the personality traits of conservatives is that when we see something to be afraid of, we immediately assume that it's going to work.
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And I don't think that's necessarily the case in this present case.
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But we're now living in a world where an invention that is that rivals the printing press and importance has come about, which is the Internet and the way the things we're doing right now, right here.
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And I think information spreads now, whether they like it or not.
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I think that their attempt, their open attempt to shut down the Biden story, when you look at the polls, it didn't work.
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I'm not sure that old fashioned ideas like rioting and and pushing and lying that used to work so well are going to work in this modern moment.
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We are actually out ahead of the of the curve because of what we're doing right here on the blaze and on the daily wire replacement media.
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We're replacing something that has burned itself to the ground.
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I hate to be optimistic because I know the one guy this coming from the one guy who's like, I'm not ready to leave California.
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And I have to tell you, when I when I first started the blaze, I want I saw a network where everybody could work together and I didn't know how it would work out.
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But I am I am so proud to be in the same business with you.
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And this is something ABC and NBC never did, never would have done.
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But we all go home friends and and it is really nice.
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04:12:08.040
Maria Salazar has defeated Donna Shalala in Miami-Dade District 27 congressional seats.
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As a Democrat, there are a bunch of Florida seats that are moving into Republican territory in Florida.
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We'll have to keep an eye on Chip Roy, who's who's in a real dogfight.
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Well, his district, again, borders on Houston and Houston.
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Also, AP has called the Florida 26th for another Republican, Carlos Jimenez, over Debbie
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So this is this is not 2018 blue wave Democratic territory.
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The national polls are going to be off and off significantly.
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You know, this is not this is not a Biden 10 point win.
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This is this is at best, even if Biden ends up winning.
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This is like a Biden four or five point win, which is what puts it in dicey territory.
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Here's here's Henry Olsen, who I promote because of his honesty.
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And he says, I never like being wrong professionally, but it's clear that Biden is not going to win
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the national vote by anything like what every major polls cross tabs implied.
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That means polling error of mammoth proportions.
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The industry will have a lot of serious thinking to do, whether they're capable of serious.
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I want to welcome to the show again, Daily Wire's very own Matt Walsh.
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I'm going to hand off both this segment and the show itself to Michael Knowles on account on a counter.
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Now we're welcoming Matt Walsh and the Pope are coming on.
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Holy Father, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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I do want to take a moment, though, gentlemen, as we've said this, because, you know, the media
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are going to completely change the story, whatever happens tomorrow.
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And they're going to say the polls were actually right.
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They're going to try to convince us that these polls were right.
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No matter how this turns out tonight, the polls got this wrong.
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Matt, what are you seeing out from your garage or your car or wherever you are right now?
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Well, right now I'm actually in a I'm in a real building.
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Yeah, I'm in I'm in a in a building with a nice view of Nashville.
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I think, you know, the thing with the polls is I don't I don't see after this what role polling plays.
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I think that pollsters go to the level of like, you know, back a few years ago, the psychics that you would call 100 numbers for.
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I don't know what happened to Cleo, but they're yeah, they go to a Miss Cleo level.
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And I think part of that is they're trying to predict at some level.
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They're trying to predict, right, what people are going to do on Election Day.
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But that's very hard to do, especially because everybody knows what they're predicting and people are responding to those predictions as well.
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So it's just it's a really difficult thing to do.
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And I just don't know what role polls play anymore.
04:15:07.820
Sure. Matt, you were you were very on focus when the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots were going all around.
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You were digging up stories of the mainstream media were not covering.
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There has been so much weird in this election season.
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And obviously that might explain why these models got things wrong.
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What what effect do you think the riots have had?
04:15:29.520
What effect do you think the lockdowns have had and what of this is just because Trump is an interesting candidate and Joe Biden can't finish a sentence?
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Well, I think the last thing you said plays plays a lot into it.
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I mean, at the end of the day, Trump has a lot of enthusiasm.
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And when you're an incumbent and you also have enthusiasm, that's going to be hard for anyone to overcome.
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And then when you've got the guy running against him is, you know, brain is made of of soggy Cheerios, it makes it it makes it even more difficult.
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I was worried heading into the election that because, as I always talk about, as as Americans in modern society, we have the memory of of house flies.
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I was worried that even though we had three or four months of rioting and these rampaging mobs supported by the Democrat, encouraged by Democrat Party, funded even by by liberals, burning down cities.
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I was worried that it wouldn't factor in the end because nobody would remember it.
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But it's it's when you look at how wrong the polls were and the results so far.
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Yeah, it's it's hard to to to think that that didn't factor in at least a little bit.
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And of course, it should, because, like I said before, it's what what have the Democrats actually done to attract new voters over the last four years?
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We talk about what what you know, what has Trump done to bring in new voters?
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He was he was he won with what he had last time.
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And I think encouraging rioting and engaging in this this this opening, you know, open bigotry and race baiting and, you know, advocating shutting down the country, putting us all muzzling us in masks, throwing people at work.
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That doesn't that just doesn't appeal to to people.
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So what I would want Democrats to do is I know that if they lose, they're going to they're going to say it was voter suppression.
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But reflect on the possibility that you lost because you are horrible and unappealing on every intellectual and emotional level.
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You know, James Carville famously said in the early 90s, it's the economy, stupid about how to win an election.
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I think you might you might say how to lose an election.
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But there there is some news coming out from Twitter.
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There's a big alert at the top now that says election results might be delayed with the increase in voting by mail.
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There might be a delay in the announcement of election results.
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This means you could encounter unconfirmed claims that a candidate has won their race.
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It makes me think that the libs think they're losing.
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How do you how do you read the coverage of the election?
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And I would worry, I guess, like everybody else, that if this thing does drag on for days and we go into Pennsylvania and they say they've got ballots, they still have to count and everything.
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I haven't been as concerned about things like voter fraud.
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But that does become become a concern because when when they believe they are trying to unseat evil himself, literally worse than Hitler, then ends justify the means.
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I mean, anything you can do to make that happen.
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If you really are running against actually Hitler, then I would say pretty much anything you do to stop him is OK, is morally permissible.
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And at least that that seems to be their their attitudes.
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That would make me concerned about about shenanigans.
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But as long as he's only the mango Mussolini, then it's a little bit less fearsome than if he were actually Hitler.
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There's something that is really confusing leftists tonight.
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And that is the increase in the Hispanic vote and the black vote for Donald Trump.
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And this doesn't make sense to him, especially the Hispanic vote, because Donald Trump launched his campaign.
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We all remember he came down the escalator and he said that there are lots of bad people coming over illegally from Mexico.
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And yet, for some reason, actually, it all went in the other direction.
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I know, Matt, you focus on culture so much more than, you know, the kind of wonkiness of various policies or economics.
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Actually, regardless of what happens tonight, what is the lesson from just what we know right now for Republicans moving hopefully in four years or eight years or 12 years after President Trump?
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How are we supposed to proceed at the political level?
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Well, if we're talking about what you brought up, you know, the minority vote and how that's and how that's shaping up, I think one lesson.
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Maybe this is more a lesson for Democrats, but also it's on the reverse of lesson for Republicans, too.
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The way I look at it, Trump spoke to all voters basically the same.
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And he's kind of we know he's kind of a brash guy and he could be vulgar and that sort of thing.
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But he tries to appeal to everybody the same way on the same level, like it or not.
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And but but what you have for Democrats, they, you know, they try to put people into different categories and they're very patronizing to to minority voters.
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And maybe they're voters that don't like being spoken to that way.
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They just they just, you know, just just give it to me straight.
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Just just speak to me straight like a normal person.
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You don't you don't have to address me as a black voter or a Hispanic voter.
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And maybe maybe we're discovering that that's what that's what people want, regardless of their race.
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Treat people with dignity like they're human beings.
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You know, I think all of us here at Daily Wire in 2016 were skeptical of Trump, even some of us didn't vote for him.
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You were quite skeptical now, obviously, much less so.
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This is true of so many of my friends and relatives, even who didn't vote for him in 2016, who did vote for him this time.
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Was there one moment that shifted you or was it just the combination of everything?
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I it's not so much one issue, I guess, like a lot of people who were in my camp in 2016.
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The the concern I had about Trump was being a New York Democrat.
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And I thought that he would govern like a New York Democrat.
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It's more like what he hasn't done that has shifted my view of him.
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Now, there were other concerns and criticisms I've had of Trump.
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But right. But that that was the main thing, you know, and and he has not governed like that.
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What he's done with the Supreme Court, obviously.
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Look, if if I don't know if Trump is actually pro-life deep in his heart, but it doesn't matter because the Supreme Court justices that he's chosen, especially Amy Coney Barrett, the last one.
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And that is the Supreme Court justice that any pro-life conservative would choose.
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What he actually believes in his heart doesn't matter to me, really.
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Honestly, it just it just matters what he does.
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I just want to point out at this point that the worst possible case scenario, which is also the most hilarious possible case scenario, is still very much on the table.
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So if he loses Arizona, if he wins Pennsylvania and if he receives one of the votes in Maine and both in Nebraska, you now have a 269, 269.
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It's it's I mean, when I say worst case, I mean, kind of best case, because, like, the fun just never ends at that point.
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So the house does not vote by the number of members of the house.
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So the states right now are divided 26, 23 in favor of Republicans.
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If one of those states move, if one, I think one is split exactly evenly.
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If one of those states or two move into the Democratic category, you have a 269, 269 tie.
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It is solved by the next Congress after they are put into place.
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If a 25, 25 split in the in the house and the vice presidency is decided by the Senate, which could easily be split 50 50.
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Does he get to vote for himself as a president pro-temporary?
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But that's that's the that is the early open all the Pandora's boxes.
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You know, I had someone unlock the tomb of the mummy like that.
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Is I noticed that Arizona is not looking great for Trump right now.
04:24:39.440
But with about 75 percent of the vote in, he's trailing pretty heavily, particularly Maricopa County, the suburbs around Phoenix.
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That's why Sinema won her last race in Arizona.
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So Trump won Arizona fairly narrowly in 2016 and then Sinema won that Senate seat.
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He could also pick up both of the seats in Nebraska and one of the seats in Maine.
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If he picks up both seats in Nebraska, one seat in Maine, not Nevada.
04:25:14.100
So, I mean, here's one thing that is that is for sure true.
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So everybody who said that this was going to be a complete blowout, everybody who said that this was going to be – that they never had – that there was no reckoning coming for anybody in the media, that the overwhelming majority of Americans were so concerned about the evils of Donald Trump personally that they were going to show up and vote him out of office in massive Ronald Reagan-like numbers, Barack Obama-like numbers.
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And these people better get with the program because here's the thing.
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If Trump were to lose narrowly, they're not going to have Donald Trump to run against next time, which is both a downside for them and a real – it's an upside for them in the sense that Trump generates an enormous amount of heat.
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But it is also a real downside for them because this entire campaign has been about Trump's character, not about anything else.
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If they had to run against the policies and on the basis of their own intersectional bullcrap, they'd be in real, real trouble.
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You know, they're not winning – they're certainly not winning on policy.
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Because right now – remember, Trump is getting Hispanic votes.
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If that happens and he loses because of suburban white women, that category of voter went for the Republicans in every election since 2000 up until this one.
04:26:19.380
Right, so what's more likely, that Republicans are able to pull back some of those votes in 2024 or that Republicans lose all of the gains that Trump made with Hispanics and blacks?
04:26:30.880
Yeah, I suppose the question does become what the party looks like after Trump because if the party does revert to a kind of Bush-era or Romney type of candidate, something tells me little Wayne is not going to be endorsing Mitt Romney.
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You know, is there were the Amish coming out in large numbers for Romney.
04:26:48.880
So, you know, obviously Trump is a unique figure.
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A good friend of mine said to me in 2016, when all the polls were going against Trump, I had already had money on the table for Trump, and I hedged my bet a little bit.
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And in the movie version of this, it has to be 269-269.
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If nothing else, this is the only election analysis in which Chekhov's gun has been mentioned.
04:27:30.080
Tom Tullis is running ahead of Trump in North Carolina and seems more and more likely that he's going to win that Senate seat.
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If Tom Tullis wins that Senate seat, there's a very, very good shot that Republicans retain control of the Senate, which is like a fantastic backstop if, God forbid, Trump were to lose.
04:27:46.020
Having the Senate in Republican hands is a massive, massive win because at least you can stop the vast craziness that is about to be unleashed on us if, God forbid, Biden were to win.
04:27:57.200
So, Matt, looking into the future, since you were so right about all of those riots that were going on in the past seven months, what do you foresee this evening?
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If Trump wins, if Biden wins, if we don't know who wins, are the cities getting burned down or do we get to take the plywood off of our stores and resume normal life?
04:28:16.680
Well, I think the cities obviously are going to experience the riding we're all expecting if Trump does win.
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I mean, if Biden wins, probably there will be some, too, celebratory riding.
04:28:28.340
But I do wonder, going back to the question of how was everybody wrong, the polling was wrong and everything, because for me, I never thought it would be a Biden landslide.
04:28:38.020
But the one thing, even though I knew Trump was an incumbent, so he's got a huge advantage, he's got a lot of enthusiasm, the one thing that always made me think, I don't know, maybe Biden wins, is that when you look at all of these cities where there has been rioting or mostly peaceful protests,
04:28:51.680
and even going back to the Women's March four years ago, a million people came out, and all of that, you think, well, there's obviously a lot of enthusiasm against him.
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And you start to wonder, maybe these people don't really hate Trump as much as they claim they do.
04:29:10.460
Maybe this is just they love going out for a riot or a protest.
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It's a lot of fun, especially when you get a free TV out of the deal or a free microwave or something.
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But actually going to vote, that's like a practical sort of boring step, and you've got to go down ballot, and you're looking at Senate races.
04:29:31.080
A lot of these people, they'll grab the Molotov cocktail, but if it doesn't go boom and explode, they're just not as interested in it.
04:29:39.520
Every single year you hear the Democrats say, this year all the youth are going to vote, and we're going to have a blue landslide.
04:29:45.240
And the youth are really excited, and they tweet, and they Instagram, and they TikTok, but they don't vote.
04:29:49.320
They don't actually show up to vote, and that may be the case with the rest of these Democratic voters.
04:29:56.080
It looks like some good times happening at BLM Plaza in Washington, D.C.
04:29:59.160
I can't imagine why a plaza that's been named for BLM would be outside of violence.
04:30:04.460
Whatsoever, because a movement that literally writes on the pavement, BLM equals defund the police.
04:30:10.340
Apparently people are hitting each other in the head with bats.
04:30:18.880
Here's an interesting little stat, that in Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania, Trump is ahead by 20%, 20 points.
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This is a county that Clinton won by three points.
04:30:31.620
Also worth noting, Univision had a poll the other day that showed that Trump was losing Cubans in Florida by 15%.
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I will say that my security guy had a beat on this.
04:30:51.960
He is of, I believe, Cuban extraction in Florida.
04:30:57.700
He was like, in Miami-Dade, he's like, people are showing up en masse, Cubans, Venezuelans, to vote for Trump.
04:31:04.280
And it's hilarious to watch the media preemptively melting down.
04:31:09.160
They're preemptively going like, oh, well, it's the white people.
04:31:15.920
So, like, he's actually not getting the white votes that he was getting last time.
04:31:30.460
But with that said, like, the fact that if he wins, based on elevated Latino and black vote,
04:31:36.800
after they called him a vicious white supremacist for four years and suggested, as Jonathan Chait did,
04:31:44.120
that voting for Trump meant that you embraced his racism,
04:31:47.140
and then he wins not because of a bunch of, quote, unquote, racist, white, non-educated,
04:31:51.900
high school education level idiots from the rural area.
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He doesn't win because of even those non-existent mythical people.
04:31:58.840
He wins instead because Latinos and blacks don't see the world in the same terms
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as the idiot, gender studies, Afro-American studies, white idiots in major universities.
04:32:16.380
You know, those deplorables down in Miami-Dade, they were –
04:32:20.220
they're going to start renaming all of them because that narrative is going to fall apart.
04:32:27.760
By the way, Trump's lead in Ohio is now up to about five points.
04:32:36.720
That's the next one that we should be keeping an eye on.
04:32:38.780
You know, he can – if he wins Pennsylvania, he can win without Arizona.
04:32:42.060
If he wins Pennsylvania and he loses Arizona, he needs to either pick up Nevada
04:32:45.960
or he needs to pick up both districts in Nebraska and one in Maine.
04:32:53.720
So if he – like, the fact that it would rely on Nebraska and Maine, it's a wild country, man,
04:32:59.780
Right now, the polls were tending to show a split in Nebraska and a split in Maine, which would not be enough.
04:33:06.100
If there were a split in Nebraska and a split in Maine and he loses Arizona but he picks up Ohio, Pennsylvania – I'm doing the math in real time –
04:33:22.900
How did you feel – how did you feel about Crowder's analysis?
04:33:26.220
You know, I kind of was interested in that because he really doesn't know that area.
04:33:29.460
Yeah, I mean, no, he said Ohio wasn't – wasn't competitive.
04:33:33.540
He spent a lot of time in Michigan, Ohio, and in that area.
04:33:38.580
So, again, if – Arizona – Arizona is where it's –
04:33:45.760
Will the left – let's say that Biden wins narrow, which is still very much on the table.
04:33:50.540
So let's put aside the preemptive drunken rivalry, which maybe we'll get to that later tonight.
04:33:57.760
If Biden wins narrow, will the left put aside the intersectional crap?
04:34:00.580
Will Biden use that as an excuse to say, listen, I didn't run on that and you guys are terrible and we're not doing this anymore?
04:34:06.400
Because that could actually be quite a good thing for the country.
04:34:10.900
I mean, if we continue to keep the Senate, that'll make a big difference because they just can't – it's just a lot of stuff they can't get through.
04:34:17.560
Those Senate numbers are looking much, much better for the Republicans.
04:34:21.300
So this is – but to watch the meltdown happening in real time, you can see it.
04:34:31.400
They're shifting the narrative almost immediately.
04:34:34.300
It's going from look at all these paths that Biden has to win and Trump has no paths to win to,
04:34:38.500
well, Trump looks like he might theoretically have a path to win to – what are Biden's paths to win again?
04:34:47.860
I mean, Philadelphia is not going to report vote totals until 9 a.m. tomorrow.
04:34:52.880
Detroit isn't finishing counting a backlog of absentee ballots until tomorrow night.
04:34:57.800
And you remember Joe Biden – the Biden campaign leaked this earlier yesterday, which was that if it looked like Joe clearly won it, he was going to come out, he was going to declare victory, even though the campaigns had said they weren't going to do that.
04:35:10.180
But now I just don't know where it would stand.
04:35:13.600
As we get to the end of tonight, is there any world in which one of the campaigns can credibly declare victory?
04:35:19.480
Or – no, then no one's going to be able to declare victory tonight.
04:35:25.160
If Trump wins Arizona, then he has the best shot at claiming victory.
04:35:28.180
If he loses Arizona, I just can't imagine that he – it's just not a clear-cut election.
04:35:34.440
Like, I don't see how anyone's going to claim victory tonight.
04:35:36.960
I think that it's going to be long into the night.
04:35:39.000
We might have some indicators as to who we think is going to – like, if Trump wins Arizona, I think at that point you have to start favoring the possibility that he wins the election.
04:35:48.680
But if he loses Arizona, you know, I still think you have to slightly favor Biden at that point.
04:35:54.300
But this is way, way, way closer than anybody in the mainstream media.
04:36:03.680
I mean, the polls are not – you know, the last election – I always had a gripe with this idea that the last election, the polls got it right.
04:36:11.520
I mean, to me, when you're saying it's a 98 percent chance Trump's going to lose and he wins, you know, I get why they said it was right.
04:36:19.300
I get why they said that some of the numbers were right and they just read them wrong.
04:36:22.580
But still, reading the polls is part of your job, right?
04:36:25.000
I mean, anybody can collect that data, but you've got to read the polls.
04:36:29.440
And you can't just say, oh, we were right within the context of our entire wrongness.
04:36:39.360
And already, you know, there's no way for them to read this.
04:36:46.000
It raises a question, the most important question.
04:36:48.200
I mean, we were having cigars out on my patio talking to Spencer, and Spencer said they are not polling a country that exists.
04:36:53.680
And I think that that's really something that we have to examine, you know.
04:36:58.500
Yeah, I'm really pleased because we have been debating this for a long time, you know.
04:37:03.120
And I am always on the side of polls are ridiculous and data is ridiculous and we should basically ignore the whole thing.
04:37:12.580
But at a certain point, if the system breaks down, then the problem is they're modeling a country that does not exist.
04:37:18.340
Matt, what credence do you give to the polls, if any, still?
04:37:23.260
I mean, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, but it does seem like they got something wrong.
04:37:37.580
I think that's a good way of putting it, that they're, you know, polling a country that doesn't exist.
04:37:43.500
I think it's a sort of a similar thing we're talking about what happened with the black vote and the minority vote.
04:37:49.420
It's Democrats think, and we've seen this, where they think that black lives matter and black people are the same thing.
04:38:00.040
And so if you criticize black lives matter, then you're criticizing black people.
04:38:04.360
Whatever you say about black lives matter, you're saying about black people.
04:38:06.620
And, of course, that's completely ridiculous and untrue.
04:38:10.380
And then you look at what they believe and what they profess.
04:38:14.760
It's got nothing to do with black people whatsoever.
04:38:18.420
They think, well, this is what the black vote is.
04:38:22.440
They believe in, you know, disrupting the nuclear family.
04:38:25.180
And they care about stuff like heteronormative thinking, whatever the hell that is.
04:38:29.520
And, no, this has nothing to do with whatsoever.
04:38:31.620
But in their minds, they think it's exactly the same.
04:38:35.060
And so they're trying to appeal to minority voters with this kind of stuff.
04:38:38.860
And yet again, it's sort of like appealing to a group that doesn't really exist or at least exists in much smaller numbers than they believe.
04:38:46.700
And I think that's what's coming back to bite them right now.
04:38:52.860
So here's the here's the change from 2016 in the exit polls.
04:39:17.360
It's the reason they are the alternative reality.
04:39:21.960
It's so counter to everything they've been saying for years.
04:39:28.700
And it shows why nobody should ever subscribe to The New York Times.
04:39:34.560
I mean, not only for all the announcements that we've made tonight.
04:39:37.440
Candace Owens joining The Daily Wire, moving with us to Nashville and launching a show with a live audience.
04:39:42.300
Not only that we now have PragerU videos available behind our paywall for all of our subscribers.
04:39:47.340
Not only that we are adding investigative reporters that we can compete with the mainstream media and we are forging into new territory.
04:39:52.080
But also because you've got to burn these suckers down.
04:39:54.420
I mean, yeah, they are just awful at their jobs.
04:39:59.100
I mean, if you did not know anything about alternative media, if you didn't know anything about replacement media, when you've just been watching this narrative, this night must come like a clock on the head.
04:40:07.220
It must come like a brick to the face because many of us, like even those of us who tend to trust more in the data, right, in the data that were provided, like me.
04:40:17.340
I literally said before the night started, I'm not making predictions tonight because I do not think it is possible to make predictions on the basis of the polls that are in front of us.
04:40:27.280
I had no real solid prediction about the night.
04:40:28.980
The only prediction that I made about the night is I thought that Trump would win North Carolina, Florida, Arizona.
04:40:33.920
I didn't have a good feeling one way or the other about Pennsylvania.
04:40:36.280
But if you watch the mainstream media, Trump is going to lose every single one of those states, plus Georgia, plus maybe Texas.
04:40:45.120
You know, this was – I've tried not to make any real predictions.
04:40:48.940
If people ask me my feeling, I'll tell it to them.
04:40:50.880
I made a very modest bet with a Democrat friend of mine who insisted.
04:41:00.440
I said, absolutely nothing that you would acknowledge.
04:41:07.020
I mean, you have steadily – you know, you're the person I called up when I was in despair because you were constantly saying, I think Trump is going to win.
04:41:16.600
But this is a repudiation of everything they believe.
04:41:21.420
If Trump loses, they will not have to bite the bullet.
04:41:25.020
And they won't because they're living in an alternate reality because they're trying to sell that reality to us.
04:41:30.080
But, you know, this is a good thing for replacement media.
04:41:34.040
It does mean that people are going to start to say, you know, that Ben Shapiro, I thought he was a bad guy, but maybe he was actually telling the truth.
04:41:45.400
I know that we watch the big clips on the legacy media.
04:41:48.700
But have you ever sat there in recent years and watched like an hour of CNN?
04:41:54.460
It is truly – I was actually scandalized by it because, you know, we were talking to Ron DeSantis earlier.
04:42:00.600
Governor Ron DeSantis, very nice guy, very intelligent guy, very serious man.
04:42:04.860
To watch the way that he is portrayed compared to St. Andrew Cuomo whose policies led directly to thousands of deaths in New York from coronavirus.
04:42:15.060
To see how those are portrayed – if I only watched CNN like some of my friends and relatives, I would believe that as well.
04:42:22.060
So it seems to me that is maybe priority number one is you've got to crack that legacy media strangle.
04:42:28.020
The important thing is that the young Turks are completely melting down.
04:42:31.660
I hear a report that the young Turks are saying that, quote, many people of color hate themselves, which is good.
04:42:37.860
It's good when people learn no lessons from anything that happens in their life.
04:42:42.760
It's like when they get hit in the face by a rake and then they immediately just jump right back on the rake.
04:42:47.220
It's like, okay, so you just basically said all black people should vote a certain way because you say Donald Trump is a racist.
04:42:52.500
And as long as you just keep proclaiming Republicans racist, black people will keep voting like that.
04:42:56.420
And Hispanics are all going to vote for you because you're going to call Donald Trump a racist.
04:42:59.340
Plus, you're going to talk about amnesty endlessly.
04:43:01.640
And suddenly all Hispanic people who mostly, believe it or not, came here legally are suddenly going to get on board with that.
04:43:07.720
And then if they don't vote like you want them to, you're just going to say they're white.
04:43:17.860
One of the things I tell my liberal friends, my few remaining liberal friends, is just for a couple of days in a row, read the New York Times op-ed page and read the Wall Street Journal op-ed page.
04:43:28.260
Not whether you agree with them, but the tone of thought, the level of thought.
04:43:32.700
Because the New York Times op-ed page is literally like being, literally, it's figuratively like being in a nursery with a bunch of people screaming.
04:43:40.300
Where the Wall Street Journal, they tend to trend right, but they discuss things at a very, very high level with very nuanced ideas.
04:43:49.700
But at some point, at some point, you start to say, well, I want to be with the adults.
04:43:56.960
But speaking of a room full of people screaming, we do have to cut to our war room so that we can find out what is going on in the granular level.
04:44:06.600
I'll see you over at the looting parade later on.
04:44:16.740
Missouri has now been called for President Trump, and I'm going to talk to our very own Ian Howarth about this, editor here at The Daily Wire.
04:44:31.520
Yeah, Missouri was one of those that early on we were actually kind of worried about.
04:44:34.600
But the last couple of weeks, the polls have really trended in Trump's favor, so it's good to see him tick that box.
04:44:44.920
And so we've been watching that, getting pretty excited in there.
04:44:50.980
So yet again, the polls seem to be off by over 5 percent, which is pretty shocking.
04:44:55.840
In terms of the difference between 2016 and 2020, it's interesting.
04:45:00.600
There's like around 5 percent difference between Biden and Trump right now.
04:45:03.920
And Biden is doing well in like Columbus, Cleveland, as expected.
04:45:07.680
So it's not like we're waiting for a ton of votes to come in.
04:45:10.440
OK, you read my mind there, because my question is when it came to Georgia or Virginia or Pennsylvania and all these battleground states that we've been talking about and looking at the data,
04:45:18.680
I think everybody kind of wonders, we know that there's those metropolitan left-leaning bubbles and we don't want to call states or we don't want to get too optimistic because sometimes you can have an entire state that looks really red.
04:45:29.920
But where the votes, you know, count or not, they count everywhere, but where the metropolitan like population resides, it can skew to the left.
04:45:38.160
But you're saying in Ohio we're not at risk of that right now?
04:45:40.920
I wouldn't be quite that, you know, I want to hedge my bets a little bit.
04:45:49.140
But like 82 percent reporting is a good look for Trump.
04:45:52.540
And we wanted to talk a little bit about the Senate races.
04:45:55.200
Ben, you touched on this briefly earlier and what the Senate was looking like in Arizona and North Carolina.
04:46:06.700
And when we look at those presidential like kind of things coming in, typically lots of people go in, even sometimes P1 voters,
04:46:15.360
we'll re-talk about they vote the presidential race and they ignore things further down.
04:46:18.880
But if things are looking good for Democrats or Republicans, depending on what the Senate race is,
04:46:23.480
sometimes that can tell us what the up ballot is going to look like, right?
04:46:27.440
I mean, firstly, thank you for calling me a data wonk.
04:46:31.500
So in terms of North Carolina, it's interesting because 89 percent reported Tillis ahead of Cunningham by 1.1 percent.
04:46:37.500
That kind of mirrors the presidential race a little bit.
04:46:41.020
Worrying for Trump with Arizona, though, if we assume that logic is true, 74 percent reported Kelly ahead of McSally by 10.3 percent.
04:46:49.240
A lot of the scenarios we talked about involved Arizona.
04:46:52.120
So we're going to have to do some restructuring of our math on that one.
04:46:56.320
Lastly, though, one interesting state to look at, Georgia, 54 percent reported.
04:47:03.040
One delicious fact about Ossoff, I think, is he lost Georgia's sixth district house race in 2017 for an absolute ton of money.
04:47:11.120
So it's kind of deliciously funny when someone spends money twice and loses both times.
04:47:14.720
Well, it's not just him spending the money twice.
04:47:16.720
It's the National Democratic Party choosing to dump a lot of money into that race.
04:47:20.840
It looks like it didn't turn out for them in Georgia.
04:47:23.240
Definitely didn't work for them against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.
04:47:29.960
Sorry, just whenever I hear his name, I have to laugh.
04:47:32.100
We'll be watching those races across the country.
04:47:34.340
And another thing that is worrying, unfortunately, a lot of people projected this.
04:47:37.820
I made my grocery store and gun runs earlier this week in anticipation, unfortunately, of the potential for riots.
04:47:44.420
No matter how election night came down, no matter who won tonight.
04:47:49.020
And for an update on what is happening in Washington, D.C. and what we're seeing on social media, we have our very own Cassie Dillon.
04:47:56.020
So right now in Portland, things are starting to heat up.
04:47:59.200
It seems that Black Lives Matter protesters are walking down the street.
04:48:02.340
Some of them are armed, and they are chanting black power.
04:48:04.660
So things are starting to heat up there, which is expected with that place.
04:48:08.340
But in Washington, D.C., things are really starting to get heated.
04:48:11.180
The protesters gathered in Black Lives Matter Plaza, and now they're starting to move further into the city around different neighborhoods.
04:48:18.120
So right here in this video, you can see police are arresting somebody.
04:48:22.880
And then the next video, it looks like a smoke bomb has gone off.
04:48:27.200
Some sort of smoke bomb probably put out by an Antifa person.
04:48:30.920
And then in another video, you can see Antifa gearing up.
04:48:33.880
They're wearing these Halloween masks, which I actually bought for my Halloween costume.
04:48:37.280
But apparently, one woman's Halloween costume is also an Antifa person's riot gear.
04:48:41.940
So they're starting to gear up there, and some of them have bats, metal bats, and police are trying to disperse them.
04:48:48.200
So we're going to pay close attention to how the tension is rising throughout the night,
04:48:52.160
especially as President Trump is looking a lot better in the polls and a lot better in the results.
04:49:00.580
And now we're going to get a bit back to Jeremy and all of the guys.
04:49:03.480
We promise the war room is still here, still working hard.
04:49:06.260
We'll be coming to you guys with more information as soon as we get it.
04:49:14.120
Cassie, you're very talented, but you're also very young.
04:49:17.220
And clearly, you don't recognize those right-wing provocateurs from Portland.
04:49:29.480
Can I just point out how full of crap the network news are?
04:49:44.080
Ron DeSantis is raging about it on Twitter, as well he should be, pointing out that if
04:49:48.600
this were Joe Biden winning Florida, they would have called this thing two hours ago.
04:49:51.980
He tweeted out, President Trump is up in Florida by almost 400,000 votes, with more than 90%
04:49:59.520
The refusal to recognize the obvious speaks volumes about the lack of objectivity of these
04:50:04.360
And that's why we keep harping on it tonight, that the media cannot be redeemed.
04:50:12.680
And the only way to do that is to continue to grow organizations like the Daily Wire,
04:50:17.120
which is why I've been telling you, leaking out little information all night.
04:50:20.360
We told you we're starting a show with Candace Owens, who's moving to Nashville to join the
04:50:24.140
Told you that we're bringing the entire PragerU library to the Daily Wire.
04:50:28.100
We told you that we're launching a new morning show called The Morning Wire.
04:50:32.400
I'm also going to, I'm pleased to tell you that we are hiring three full-time investigative
04:50:36.620
journalists so that we can start doing the work that up until now, only the left has been
04:50:43.160
The New York Times alone has 1,600 journalists, but we're going to take the steps that are in
04:50:47.800
You know, the only way that you can eat the, is to start by, you know, whatever, man.
04:50:55.640
And where we're going to start is by, is small.
04:50:58.980
So we're going to start, we're going to keep putting one foot in front of another, and
04:51:03.600
We're asking you, if we take a leap on all of this content and we really go and try to
04:51:07.680
replace the media, we try to replace these institutions that despise us, you know, we're
04:51:12.280
confident that you will come along and start supporting us instead of supporting them.
04:51:21.660
We'll give you 25% off, and you can be like the 200,000 DailyWire subscribers who we have
04:51:28.660
You can be a part of the solution, because, listen, we're all going to have to do whatever
04:51:32.760
we can if we're learning anything tonight, is that the media, which we all know went
04:51:46.120
I've been talking for over 20 years about the culture and moving into the culture and
04:51:51.300
the fact that the right has abandoned the culture.
04:51:53.600
And to sit here and to watch this clown actually do what I've been talking about is incredibly
04:52:00.100
And if you weren't you, I would actually appreciate it.
04:52:05.420
I would actually give you a big wet kiss on your ugly head, because you're doing an amazing
04:52:11.060
Seriously, pal, you're doing an amazing thing that has been waiting to be done, but it took
04:52:21.240
You wouldn't tell me what your announcements were before we came on, and I guessed a couple
04:52:24.860
of them, but still, still, you're doing exactly what needs to be done.
04:52:30.460
And I actually may be nice to you for, I don't know, 20 minutes.
04:52:33.360
Well, not only is that the nicest thing you've ever said to me, it's the only nice thing
04:52:41.180
Well, I just, your botched idiom did make me think of another botched idiom, which is
04:52:49.540
Fool me twice, the point is, you ain't going to fool me again.
04:52:54.000
And the legacy media has fooled us more than once, but certainly in 2016.
04:52:59.980
And so it is just from, I'm, I'm very excited too, about everything that's going on at Daily
04:53:05.720
But, but even if that weren't going on, there, there, there would have to be something because
04:53:10.520
there is no, no matter what happens tonight, there is no credibility left for that old
04:53:17.580
The important thing is that I think that we can all recognize that Joe Biden really brought
04:53:28.300
We haven't mentioned his name all night, even though he might be the president.
04:53:34.920
Like no one gives two good dams about Joe Biden or anything happening to Joe Biden.
04:53:40.360
You said, I think in your video about which, which, by the way, I want to congratulate you
04:53:45.360
It was one of the most honest, one of the most honest reflections that I've seen anyone
04:53:52.040
It's very hard to ever be critical of your former position.
04:53:56.880
But one of the things you said in that video is that Joe Biden is like a cardboard mask being
04:54:05.220
The reason we don't talk about him is because Joe Biden doesn't matter in the election at
04:54:09.300
You and I had the opportunity been in the, in the West Wing to meet with Jared and Ivanka
04:54:13.760
and we met with them separately, which I always think is an important part of the conversation.
04:54:17.740
One day we went to the West Wing and we met with Ivanka Trump.
04:54:20.600
The following day we went to the West Wing and had breakfast with Jared Kushner.
04:54:36.260
It's going to be Bernie or it's going to be Warren.
04:54:39.360
And the reason that you should take him seriously, the reason he is a genuine threat is
04:54:43.680
also the reason you don't even think about him.
04:54:51.960
And the argument, the pitch of the left is if you hate all this chaos, the violence in
04:54:57.500
the street, the masks, the lockdowns, the dying, the crazy Trump rallies, the crazy won't
04:55:04.320
condemn white supremacy at least 17 times a day.
04:55:07.060
If you hate all of that, we could just go back to nothing.
04:55:11.260
You don't have to have any opinion of Joe Biden.
04:55:19.840
I think no matter what happens, the pollsters were actually wrong.
04:55:24.080
They were actually wrong in this election in a way that they weren't even wrong in the
04:55:29.220
And that's even if Biden manages to pull this out at this point.
04:55:31.980
There is still a chance that Joe Biden could be president on a platform of nothing, a nothing
04:55:36.980
man on a platform of nothing who held no events and stayed at home in his basement, held no
04:55:42.120
press conferences, could win because because his that is his actual value in this moment.
04:55:49.040
You know, I was at a Jesse Lee Peterson town hall last week, which I always enjoy doing.
04:55:54.920
And one of the guys there was this very far left guy who calls himself destiny.
04:56:01.000
And I don't want to rag on the guy because he showed up at this very, very right wing event.
04:56:08.620
But he was talking about Joe Biden in these glowing terms.
04:56:15.000
And it reminded me of the people that even even Knowles has held at arm's length who sit
04:56:20.420
around and talk about, oh, Trump is a pious, you know, godly man who's doing, you know,
04:56:25.500
the people we say, well, no, that's not what's going on.
04:56:29.760
And I thought there are people who are just willing to jump into that ship who he was saying,
04:56:34.880
oh, Joe Biden's going to bring back the rule of law.
04:56:36.740
I thought, yeah, it's going to be Chinese law, but, you know, never mind.
04:56:42.020
And I thought it was amazing, amazing what people will believe if they think they can
04:56:51.060
Well, you know, we always talk about Biden's best pitch as a return to normalcy.
04:56:55.240
I think the Biden campaign is making that pitch, but it's a return to normalcy.
04:56:58.480
The thing is, something about normal was wrong.
04:57:02.900
The reason that Donald Trump won the nomination, the reason he won the general election,
04:57:08.740
By the way, the looting that we're having, the arson, the tearing down of the rule of law,
04:57:14.100
the threats to the judiciary and the constitution, that is all part of normal.
04:57:17.660
It's the party of normal that's doing that, right?
04:57:21.000
And so I just think we are trapped in this system of what normal was,
04:57:25.540
obviously in the media and technology and politics and bureaucracy and all of that.
04:57:29.440
And the wise people have pulled themselves out of it and said, wait a second, this normal thing,
04:57:40.660
And, you know, you said it very wisely last time.
04:57:44.220
I can't believe there's one wise thing you've ever said.
04:57:49.260
But you said, I don't know if Donald Trump is the beginning of something,
04:57:54.520
He is marking the end of some era that has run its course.
04:58:01.200
But whatever was coming before it, that does seem to be over.
04:58:07.180
And the thing about it is, is until they actually form a global coalition that can crush the American people,
04:58:14.200
they're not as far ahead as they think they are.
04:58:16.280
And they thought, after 2012, that they had formed an unbeatable coalition.
04:58:28.240
And their assumption was that that was a transitory moment.
04:58:30.260
And it was brought about by a bunch of extraneous factors,
04:58:32.660
ranging from Russian interference to the predations of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook.
04:58:36.720
And it turns out, nope, all that crap was real.
04:58:39.640
And the real, honestly, I think there's a big question for the Democrats here.
04:58:43.560
But the big question for the Democrats is that if they win narrowly or if they lose narrowly, either way,
04:58:52.940
are they going to turn further to the left or do they learn a lesson?
04:58:56.300
Because let's say that Biden wins, but he wins very, very narrowly.
04:58:59.180
Does he turn to his woke left and say, you guys got to go because you almost cost me this election?
04:59:03.980
Or does he say to them, I need you that much more because I have this slim a majority?
04:59:07.960
And if he loses, does the Democratic Party say he lost because we rioted in the cities and because of COVID and because of a bunch of other factors?
04:59:16.980
Or are they going to say we lost because we didn't skew far enough to the left and we need to attack to the Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar left?
04:59:25.980
I don't think they know the answer to that question yet.
04:59:27.580
But the best organized group in the aftermath of chaos usually is the one that wins.
04:59:30.560
You know, AOC has easily won her district again.
04:59:35.120
And I think it's really it makes you thankful that the Electoral College is in the Constitution.
04:59:41.980
That it has to be gotten rid of by constitutional amendment.
04:59:44.260
They can't just vote it out like like the Supreme Court, which they can do.
04:59:47.940
And because I think there's these pockets of leftism, but that's not what the country is about.
04:59:54.040
Still, I don't think it's about this in Manhattan.
04:59:56.700
I don't think it's about this in parts of Brooklyn, the heart of darkness.
05:00:00.840
I think it's about these pockets of belief in this system.
05:00:06.820
The thing about socialism is it's the oldest system in the world.
05:00:11.380
The only thing that is new in politics is the idea that freedom should reign, that individuals should reign.
05:00:16.920
Socialism is essentially the value system of Cain, right?
05:00:26.460
Well, if you did something, that something had value, I want that something.
05:00:34.140
Whitaker Chambers, you know, the great ex-communist, he wrote Witness.
05:00:36.900
One of the guys who brought Ronald Reagan over to the right.
05:00:39.800
He said, people think of socialism and communism as this 150-year-old idea.
05:00:46.620
It began when the serpent in the garden said, ye shall be as gods.
05:00:50.000
It's a gospel of envy, you know, as Winston Churchill called it.
05:00:55.200
And, you know, the sad thing is it's not new, but it's also not going to go away.
05:00:59.280
It's going to crop up in various forms again and again.
05:01:02.800
Is this woman, what's her name, from the 1619th century?
05:01:08.940
Yeah, and Nicole Hannah-Jones, she's a nut, yeah.
05:01:10.720
One day after this election is over, I am going to write a piece about how Latino is a contrived
05:01:15.020
ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous
05:01:20.280
Guatemalans and helps explain why Latinos support Trump at the second highest rate.
05:01:28.480
Listen, back with us right now, we have our friend, Governor Ron DeSantis of the great
05:01:34.560
Governor, what on earth is happening in your state?
05:01:38.960
Well, I think it speaks more about their bias than any of the facts.
05:01:43.140
I think if Biden won every vote outstanding, he still couldn't win.
05:01:49.660
Not only that, we flipped two, took out two Democrat U.S. congressmen in Southern Florida.
05:01:56.940
We had Eric Holder spend $15 million to try to flip the state house in Florida, and we
05:02:04.940
We're likely to have gained a seat in the state Senate.
05:02:09.640
This is, you know, great performance for Republicans.
05:02:13.020
And the fact that you have these networks, some of whom called Virginia before a single
05:02:17.640
vote was counted, still not being willing to call Florida when the die is completely cast.
05:02:28.580
And quite frankly, you know, you guys are probably getting more viewers leaving Fox and coming
05:02:35.000
So you're saying it's not just a red mirage, as they've been trying to warn us about all
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And remember, CNN, NBC, all these polls said he's going to lose by five to seven points.
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So at some point, there should be a reckoning for this political media complex, putting out
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their phony polls, doing their bogus analysis and maybe hold somebody accountable for it,
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But when you consistently miss in the same direction every time, you know, we think that
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And Governor DeSantis, worthy of noting that one of the factors in Florida that continues
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to be a big win for Republicans in that state is the increasing share of the Latino vote.
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It is being one prompting Nicole Hannah-Jones to, of course, declare that Latinos are now
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And that apparently is holding true across the country.
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Star County, Texas, is the most Latino county in the United States.
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So we are watching a historic realignment among Hispanic and Latino voters across the
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And what do you make for that in terms of the future of the Republican Party?
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I mean, Florida may be what the future of the Republican Party looks like.
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Well, I think there's two two things come to mind.
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One kind of a larger issue of the Democrats going so far left, left on cultural issues,
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left on religion, against religion, anti-American in many respects in terms of some of the
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And then I also think more specifically, Biden was the lockdown candidate.
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OK, locking down, stopping businesses, closing schools, that hurts blue collar folks.
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Obviously, Hispanics are a big portion of that.
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But I think when he's talking about a dark winter saying we can't have school, he was
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literally did a video saying someday we will be able to have friends over to our house
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So I'm thinking to myself, in Florida, we've been doing this for months and what are you
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But I think it really spooked people because it's, you know, the media, they like lockdown.
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So Biden thinks, I think, thought that was popular.
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I think it worked against them in southern Florida in particular.
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As I mentioned, I think I mentioned earlier, you know, we have every county in Florida has
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school, in person, and that's just so important for working class people.
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It's a more populous base for the Republicans, somewhat similar to Reagan and Nixon in 72.
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But I think it may be, in some respects, more durable because I think it does cross racial
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If you notice in Dade County, obviously he did very well with Hispanics.
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But some of the African-American precincts, you see movement.
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But if you win 15 percent and you keep building off that, even if it's a percent a year,
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And so I think that, you know, it's interesting.
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Donald Trump was viewed when he ran in 16 by the media as a racist.
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And yet here he has more than any Republican president
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brought in people from all walks of life into the Republican fold.
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Governor DeSantis, they're talking a lot about, you know, the sort of shifting image of the
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Republican Party that when Mitt Romney ran in 2012, this was a college educated,
05:06:11.940
A lot of talk now about the idea of a multiracial and working class party, as opposed to,
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you know, what the Republican Party was largely perceived as the party for the rich and white.
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And what does this say about the future of the Republican Party, whether Trump ends up
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And there is no shot that this thing is anything but a very nail-biting close election.
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Well, I think, I mean, a lot of the upper income areas vote Democrat now.
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I mean, we see that the areas around Washington, D.C., the most affluent counties in the country
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Obviously, the New York City suburbs and whatnot.
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And then I think you get into those exurbs in the rural areas, and man, Trump is blowing
05:06:54.960
Now, part of that, I think, you know, there's going to be an economic component that Republicans,
05:07:01.920
And if you notice what Nancy Pelosi wanted to do, she wanted to put the SALT deduction back
05:07:08.760
And so it's interesting how those dynamics work out.
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But I also think just on these core issues of patriotism, culture, and I do think the
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lockdowns, being against the lockdowns, I think that that really connects.
05:07:21.200
And I think Trump is somebody, I think he was able to do this to a certain extent, because,
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you know, I think I told the president the other day this.
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It's like, Mr. President, if someone had asked me when I was 10 years old, who's a rich guy,
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So people in my generation, in their 30s and 40s and 50s, we grew up with Trump.
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And so I think now that he's in politics, people have a different frame of reference.
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And so I think it appeals to folks beyond the typical Republican folk.
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It obviously repels some of the more upper class who consider themselves so highly educated
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But I think he has a real strong connection with kind of the heart of the country.
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And look, he's won Florida, he's won North Carolina, he's won Georgia, he's won Ohio.
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So now we're at the point where, you know, if he wins Arizona, and I think the election
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day vote is going to be two or three to one for him.
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You know, he's one state away, just like we had anticipated.
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And all the media, you know, it wasn't a question of Biden winning.
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It was, could this be a Reagan-esque landslide?
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They were talking about 400 plus electoral votes.
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They were talking about a 10-point margin in the electoral college.
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Governor, you make such a great point here on the frame of reference, because the media,
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Whoever the Republican is, he's a racist, he's a sexist, he's a bigot.
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And then when it's Donald Trump, you say, wait a second, I know Donald Trump.
05:08:53.080
But when we don't have a nominee who is a billionaire TV star that we've all known for 30 years,
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when we have someone who's a little more in the usual line of political nominees,
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do you think that that will be able to carry over, that voters will remember?
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Wait a second, the media do lie about these guys.
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Or do you think their power is going to creep back in when you don't have this unique type
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I can tell you, since I've been governor, you know, I've tried to do that.
05:09:26.840
I mean, you know, we have places in Florida, for example, Gadsden County up here in North
05:09:31.080
Florida, the most heavily African-American county.
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You know, I show up in Gadsden County and work with the local officials.
05:09:39.800
I mean, they're probably 100 percent Democrat, but we work together on common issues.
05:09:44.780
And I think showing up and letting people know that you care, that goes an awful long way.
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And once you show up and they see you and they know you and they talk to you, not all of them
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But, man, it's sure hard for them to accept a caricature that the media is going to try
05:10:03.800
And so, you know, some of my strongest Democrat allies in the legislature are African-Americans,
05:10:13.960
They support us on we did a parental consent for abortion for minors and they were lining
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And so, you know, there are a lot of issues that that we can work together on.
05:10:25.480
So you just got to be willing to show up and you got to be willing to make the case.
05:10:29.060
And I think for so long, Republicans have said, well, we're going to lose 90 percent.
05:10:39.960
And I think what Trump showed in Florida was in these Democrat counties in southern
05:10:49.760
And that probably was 150,000 votes in those three counties improvement in terms of his
05:10:57.300
And, you know, in Florida, we have a good opportunity for this because, you know, not
05:11:03.220
I mean, these are Hispanics from all over Latin America, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, you name
05:11:08.120
We also have a strong African-American community, but also includes the Caribbean Americans.
05:11:13.920
I tried to put the first Jamaican American on our state Supreme Court.
05:11:18.200
We had some litigation in that, so it didn't quite work out.
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But I mean, you have Haitians, you have Jamaicans, you've got a lot of stuff down here.
05:11:25.020
And my sense is, is that, you know, we have a chance to make inroads if we keep showing
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Governor DeSantis, I think you also personally deserve a fair bit of credit.
05:11:33.700
You took an enormous amount of flack from the media for months.
05:11:36.040
You were there whipping post on everything COVID related.
05:11:38.760
You were the guy who blew it, even though you were the only person who was actually looking
05:11:43.720
And the voters of Florida, this has to be taken at least in part as a referendum on your
05:11:48.500
I mean, the fact is that it's not just that Trump won the state going away.
05:11:51.840
It's also that a couple of congressional districts that were not supposed to shift Republican
05:11:55.320
did, in fact, shift Republican, including a likely Democratic district that was shifting
05:12:01.360
They went Florida 15, Florida 18, Florida 26, Florida 27.
05:12:04.620
And frankly, I think that a lot of that has to do with the fact that the people of Florida
05:12:08.160
just don't believe the media's lies about you and the way that you've handled an issue
05:12:13.780
I mean, I understand now, and the fact is that that's the way it is.
05:12:16.660
And, you know, we we did two things that we focused on.
05:12:22.700
So we went into 2020, 200,000 more Republicans vis-a-vis the Democrats than in 16.
05:12:29.500
And, you know, we had to put, you know, a lot of money into that.
05:12:33.300
And then I think also the registration increases because people move here because they want
05:12:38.240
to be governed in a better way than some of these really liberal states.
05:12:42.440
And I do think that the, you know, once you push to have society open, people don't want
05:12:49.720
Ben, I know the media wants to shut everything down and you could probably fashion a poll
05:12:54.180
that will say people want everything shut down, but that's not how they behave and they
05:13:01.760
The average American is not rich enough for the shutdowns.
05:13:04.600
The most disgusting thing about these shutdowns, in my estimation, is that the people who call
05:13:09.380
for them, the political elite, the media elite, these are all people who can work from home,
05:13:15.220
who can continue to make six figure and higher incomes working from their homes.
05:13:21.360
And then they act as though they're the champions of people who need to go to work, who put bread
05:13:29.360
Thank you, Governor DeSantis, for standing against it.
05:13:35.440
One thing I would just add to that, you actually have people who support closing schools who
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turn around and send their kids to private, in-person education.
05:13:56.180
I think that on that note, after wrapping with the governor of Florida, we should turn to
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our Daily Wire war room and see what's happening in the state of Florida, one of the most important
05:14:10.460
You know, Jeremy, you've been talking a lot tonight about that legacy media, and legacy
05:14:13.800
media seems very afraid to call Florida, and the governor there rightfully calling them
05:14:18.960
So we're going to do something that we've never done before in Daily Wire history.
05:14:22.380
We've got the editor-in-chief, John Bickley, right here.
05:14:26.140
We're doing something very fun for me as a Florida boy.
05:14:38.800
He's got, there's no way that Trump loses this.
05:14:41.240
It's actually, it is absurd that it's not been called, just like the governor was saying.
05:14:45.320
What that does, if we look at the electoral map here, is we see a lot of winds building
05:14:54.460
We have this tally of Joe Biden at 209, Donald Trump at 141.
05:14:58.720
This is where we sit right now with all of the states that have been called by the Daily
05:15:05.720
Tell me what's happening in Georgia and North Carolina.
05:15:10.040
So we're seeing him build this heartland, deep red base here.
05:15:15.420
Georgia, North Carolina, like we said, trending his direction, almost positively going to win
05:15:20.900
He just keeps pulling away more and more in Ohio, an absolutely pivotal state.
05:15:30.200
One of the things that's developing, though, that's not great for Trump is that Arizona
05:15:34.720
So if Arizona is looking bad, but he can pull out a win in those states that you just mentioned,
05:15:40.220
we're going to look at a potential pathway to victory.
05:15:43.200
What does that pathway to victory look like in this scenario of Donald Trump and Mike Pence
05:15:49.720
So when we did our initial analysis, actually, our number two scenario was him losing Arizona.
05:15:54.700
We thought there was a chance that would happen.
05:15:56.840
If that does happen, how does he make up for it?
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There's actually an easy way to make up for it.
05:16:01.100
Iowa has always been something that was very attainable for him.
05:16:06.980
All he needs then is to make up for the deficit there, which is really only a few points.
05:16:11.220
He could pick up Nevada if he picks up one of these states here, like Wisconsin, which
05:16:15.960
is actually he's turning well in, far beyond expectations.
05:16:25.960
Again, this scenario, which we thought was by polling data, the most likely would give him
05:16:32.040
And I mean, Ben talked about earlier, there's a fear that could we be at 269, 269?
05:16:38.600
And I have to tell the audience, and giving credit to the war room and all of the editors
05:16:43.260
and everybody gathering information here at the Daily Wire, we're not just copying and
05:16:47.440
pasting what other politicos are saying on social media and on television.
05:16:55.820
And this is why we have all of these scenarios kind of laid out of what Trump's pathway to
05:17:00.720
victory is going to be and why we're not rushing to call balls and strikes here, in the words
05:17:05.120
of Ben Shapiro, we really want to make sure that we're giving everybody the right information
05:17:11.280
And revealing that, once again, like 2016, win-lose or draw tonight, polling wasn't 100%
05:17:26.140
Some of the other states, it's looking like a 5% miss by pollsters.
05:17:30.200
This is a devastating, another devastating night for pollsters.
05:17:32.680
No matter what happens the rest of the night, it's already devastating for them.
05:17:37.040
And again, we've heard a very consistent narrative.
05:17:39.820
And it's a sort of a depression of the Republican vote.
05:17:44.980
And I think that's why they're not calling Florida.
05:17:49.840
We need to call what's happening and seeing how it develops.
05:17:55.960
It's not that he's cleared out for the rest of the victory.
05:18:02.760
I, earlier in the day, had the final countdown in my head.
05:18:05.700
And now I need to come up with a new theme song because it looks like we could be here
05:18:10.640
But the only reason that we are able to be here is because of our amazing Daily Wire members.
05:18:14.900
So I wanted to give you guys some questions from them.
05:18:20.040
Historically, have presidential elections given any indication of gubernatorial races?
05:18:24.340
For example, I and many in my social circle would very much like to see the governor
05:18:33.480
The presidential actions have an effect on gubernatorial races.
05:18:38.740
So in other words, during the Obama administration, you saw state Democrats wiped out.
05:18:51.740
And they registered that by voting for Obama, but voting against everybody else.
05:18:57.040
And I think also, you know, politics is local at that level.
05:19:00.740
You know, I mean, that is that is local politics.
05:19:03.000
And some of the things that are happening in the state may not be reflected in the national
05:19:08.120
I think that if Trump listen, if Trump wins this, if Trump wins this, it's the end of
05:19:16.880
I genuinely believe that I think that the identity politics is what the socialists use to replace
05:19:24.020
Yeah, because in America, we don't really have class warfare, but we do have racial tension.
05:19:29.460
And so they use racial tension where they used to use class politics.
05:19:36.700
And that is going to have an effect on every single race in the country for a long time
05:19:41.040
to come, because they have not got really anything else.
05:19:45.120
We don't have class battles here in the way they do in other countries.
05:19:48.460
And are I believe I personally believe and have said this repeatedly that the the racial
05:19:55.840
panic that is going on is a panic about the fact that blacks are now accepted as part
05:20:03.420
I grew up in a bad time for this, but it has definitely become true.
05:20:07.240
The path to assimilation, to becoming part of America and accepted part of America is
05:20:12.440
And that's why this kind of panic has started, this kind of violent panic.
05:20:17.780
If that goes away, if blacks reject that, if Latinos reject that, that's going to have
05:20:24.600
And so you're never going to have class politics here, class warfare, right, because we don't
05:20:29.440
You're not you may not have racial warfare and you'll never have a war between the sexes
05:20:34.120
because, of course, everybody's sleeping with the enemy.
05:20:36.400
So then you have to wonder, what do you move to next?
05:20:43.620
If this identity politics falls apart, they are going to have to come up with they will
05:20:48.580
I don't know what it is, but but it doesn't matter because this is it.
05:20:51.980
I don't know if they can let it go that easily.
05:20:53.720
I don't know if they can let it go that easily.
05:20:55.580
And that's the big question, because the people who are most invested in this particular
05:20:58.700
point of view are not black and Hispanic voters who are most invested in this point of view
05:21:02.500
are the white woke liberals who actually run the party.
05:21:05.320
And the people who work at The New York Times, the people who decided to give Nicole Hannah-Jones
05:21:08.040
the editorship of the flagship of that newspaper.
05:21:10.560
The people who decided that they were going to infuse anti-racism, bullcrap propaganda into
05:21:16.140
every single aspect of your corporate American world.
05:21:19.400
Do you think they're just going to receive that easily?
05:21:20.780
I really wonder if they are, if they lose narrowly, I wonder if what they say is that
05:21:25.160
it's just because we nominated an old school, non-crazy, non-crazy person like Biden.
05:21:30.040
And if they win narrowly, it's going to be because Joe Biden wasn't woke enough.
05:21:34.720
But that if that happened on our side, we would call them out for their stupidity.
05:21:38.200
And I think that would be true if it happens on their side.
05:21:40.940
In other words, in other words, they will they may claim I hope so.
05:21:43.920
They may cling to the strategy, but the strategy has failed.
05:21:46.940
Fox News, by the way, is calling Joe Biden winning Arizona, which is just devastating
05:21:57.400
They're calling Biden for Arizona, which means that it's now down to basically Pennsylvania
05:22:04.160
And we're back where we were last election cycle.
05:22:12.200
Or Pennsylvania and Nevada, or he has to flip Pennsylvania and Nebraska's second district.
05:22:19.720
Because on the map here, all the experts have it read.
05:22:23.600
But I know that it's this kind of a weird situation where they're where it's split.
05:22:28.260
Well, it's so Nebraska splits by congressional district.
05:22:37.660
Instead, they split it by congressional district.
05:22:39.620
And so right now, I think most of the pollsters are saying that Trump wins three of the five
05:22:46.680
He would need to win four of the five or five of the five.
05:22:49.380
I mean, I talked to a pollster, a Trump pollster, I don't know, maybe three weeks ago, four
05:22:55.260
weeks ago, who said Omaha is going to decide this election.
05:23:04.980
Biden apparently has won Arizona, is what they are suggesting, which gives, again, Biden
05:23:09.500
has a much healthier pathway to the to the presidency if Arizona is, in fact, in his column.
05:23:14.640
It means that he he now only has to win a couple of those blue states, not all three.
05:23:20.780
Well, the fact that they're calling Arizona this early at Fox News, it's not a good sign.
05:23:25.060
The fact that they won't call Florida, though, means that I want to actually withhold judgment
05:23:28.500
on Arizona and see what happens as they bring in a few more of those votes, especially because
05:23:32.760
of what we're seeing in Florida with a Latino vote, see if any of that winds up translating
05:23:37.640
I also want to get a few more questions in from our dailywire.com members.
05:23:41.020
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05:23:50.600
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05:24:00.500
We have one more announcement that we'll make later in the evening.
05:24:03.200
But those members tonight have the opportunity to get their questions in.
05:24:10.700
And speaking of you talked about the Latino vote in Florida.
05:24:13.840
A Daily Wire member has a question for Michael Knowles.
05:24:16.380
Do you think the difference between Arizona and Florida has more to do with Mexican immigrants
05:24:25.840
Whoever, Nicole Hannah-Jones, when she said that the idea of Hispanic is contrived or Latino
05:24:32.380
That moniker is a creation basically of the 1970s and late 60s through the 80s because liberal
05:24:39.920
activists wanted to try to replicate what they felt was a successful civil movement.
05:24:43.840
rights movement based on racial identity among other groups and try to bring them to the
05:24:51.180
They tried to do it during the Obama administration with Middle East and North Africa.
05:25:01.060
You know, Cuba is different than Mexico, is different than El Salvador, is different than
05:25:05.720
I, you know, I have not been on the ground in Arizona and I've not been following Arizona
05:25:12.540
So I can't give you the top reason, you know, with anything more than a guess.
05:25:16.820
But it is the case historically, Cuban Americans, because they've fled a communist country, have
05:25:22.160
sided more conservative and sided more Republican.
05:25:28.180
And so you've seen recent immigrants, strongly conservative, next generation a little less
05:25:34.640
So we'll have to see what happened this time around, because the Cuban vote certainly went
05:25:44.420
And then then you won't be able to use race as quite so easy an identifier of political
05:25:49.680
All right, the next question is to the God King.
05:25:53.280
Jeremy, where is the number one place in culture that conservatives cannot take right now that
05:25:59.460
The number one place that we cannot take that we should be trying to?
05:26:03.060
I think we have, I think we have three places in the culture that we simply cannot take, not
05:26:12.900
They had a generational plan and they executed it to perfection.
05:26:15.860
We're going to have to do something much the same.
05:26:19.240
Conservatives have zero representation in academia.
05:26:22.320
You may be able to think of that one conservative professor you had.
05:26:26.560
That doesn't, that's the exception that proves the rule.
05:26:29.540
Academia, of course, is propped up by government money.
05:26:32.840
Academia is propped up by conservatives who hold to credentialism and believe that they're,
05:26:37.300
that they're, that they're purchasing for their child a credential that will do them well.
05:26:41.480
I had a conversation once with Secretary DeVos, our education secretary, wonderful woman.
05:26:46.720
And yet I think she had a blind spot in this particular area.
05:26:49.140
She, she was at, we were at this very hoity-toity fundraiser and people were asking her questions
05:26:55.500
And the question was always, don't we need trade schools for people who just aren't right
05:26:59.880
Don't we need a place for people who just aren't the college material?
05:27:02.940
Don't they need to go learn how to weld or, you know, learn how to be garbage collectors?
05:27:08.460
I mean, first of all, the trades are where all the money's at in the culture right now.
05:27:11.440
If you want to make a good living, learn how to weld because there's more welding jobs available
05:27:16.860
that pay six figures than there are in, for example, gender studies where there are no
05:27:23.120
But that's not the only reason I found it objectionable.
05:27:25.200
I found it objectionable because, well, frankly, more than half of all the small business owners
05:27:29.560
in the country lack college degrees because some of the richest men in the world, Mark
05:27:34.560
Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, lack college degrees.
05:27:38.260
I don't think we should be telling kids, you're not college material, so we want you
05:27:44.200
We should be telling kids, you can do whatever you want.
05:27:48.420
Drop out of college and get some life experience.
05:27:51.680
Drop out of college and, yes, go to trade school, but that's only one of the options.
05:27:54.560
But the main way that we're going to defeat the left in academia is to stop sending our
05:28:00.980
kids there, stop letting them take on debt that they will never be able to repay for a
05:28:05.820
credential that's utterly meaningless so that professors can train them to believe things
05:28:11.540
The second, of course, institution is the media.
05:28:13.540
I actually think we're doing better there than in any of the three, but we're still so
05:28:20.180
Yes, The Daily Wire was the number one publisher, the number one most engaged publisher in the
05:28:24.540
world on Facebook for the last three months, according to Newswhip, but that's still nothing
05:28:32.520
They control almost all of the engagements, almost all of the impressions on social media,
05:28:35.940
and, of course, they have their own media channels that are worth billions of dollars.
05:28:40.980
We have so much work to do there, especially in the investigative realm, which is why we announced
05:28:45.260
we're hiring three investigative journalists here tonight.
05:28:48.020
The third place where, obviously, we have an unbelievable hill to climb is in entertainment
05:28:53.340
media, and in entertainment, I include music, I include television, I include film, basically
05:28:59.660
all the things that we might call popular culture.
05:29:02.580
Here, the left's domination of us is almost complete.
05:29:07.140
You can count on your hands the films that have openly represented the worldview of conservatives,
05:29:13.420
and you can even point to some successful ones.
05:29:15.500
American Sniper, the number one best-selling, the number one box office-generating rated-R
05:29:20.220
film of all time, which actually unseated the former number one rated-R movie of all time,
05:29:25.620
The Passion of the Christ, both very similar stories in the sense that it was a story that
05:29:29.900
Americans wanted, that Hollywood would never give them, that required a superstar actor-turned-director
05:29:39.460
Of course not, because that's not a lesson they want to learn.
05:29:41.680
They like the polarization, they don't want your money, and they know you're a chump,
05:29:45.420
so you'll give them your money, even if they don't do anything to earn it.
05:29:50.780
Well, Netflix alone spends $20 billion, that's $20,000 million, on content every single year.
05:30:04.040
All told, the production budget of Hollywood, I don't know if it's even knowable, it's probably
05:30:11.160
This is why you wind up with Cuties on Netflix.
05:30:14.220
This is why you wind up with all the anti-Iraq war movies when George W. Bush was president.
05:30:18.520
It's why every single election cycle of my lifetime, we've gotten feature films about how bad the
05:30:25.500
We've gotten documentaries about how bad the Republican is.
05:30:28.040
We've gotten documentaries about how great every leftist figure is.
05:30:33.000
Because she's a cultural cult figure, because Hollywood will spend billions and billions
05:30:37.700
and billions of dollars promulgating their worldview and selling you their point of view,
05:30:44.800
So what are we going to do where Hollywood is concerned?
05:30:47.100
Well, that's where we have, I think, the biggest hill to climb, and that's the next announcement
05:30:51.420
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05:30:56.780
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05:31:00.860
We're going to be the first in our space with an SVOD platform to really go at this in a
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We are working on a script with Andrew Klavan for our first series.
05:31:16.580
We are going to, again, can we bring you $20 billion worth of content the way that Netflix
05:31:23.360
It's a 40-year path if we're going to do what the left did and assert ourselves in all of
05:31:30.100
We're going to get out ahead of our comfort zone.
05:31:32.360
We're going to start making the content that we know has to be made.
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We want to say, these are the things that you get elsewhere.
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05:32:02.700
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We're going to bring you the entire library of Daily Wire, of PragerU, who's competing in
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And we're going to bring you a brand new, one-of-a-kind show from Candace Owens, shot in front
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Can I just say that I think you're absolutely right about the academy, that that's a big
05:32:43.620
hill to climb, and it's going to take a change of attitude.
05:32:47.660
On entertainment, I don't think we need their billions of dollars.
05:32:50.540
I think we can beat them in the same way Rocky beat the Russian boxer, because all we
05:32:56.020
have to do is produce the content that people want to see, and they'll come.
05:33:01.980
I don't want to make movies that people feel like they're supposed to go see.
05:33:05.320
We want to make content that you want to go see, but we do need you to be in our corner
05:33:10.060
We're going to take one more question from a Daily Wire member in that spirit right now
05:33:14.720
And this question goes to our very own Ben Shapiro.
05:33:18.020
If Biden were to win, would we reverse all of the progress that we have made in the last
05:33:22.340
four years, more specifically when it comes to international policy in the Middle East,
05:33:28.640
So my guess is that foreign policy is the area where the president has the most power
05:33:36.100
He doesn't really have to worry about Congress there, as Barack Obama showed when he launched
05:33:39.260
an illegal war in Libya and then just maintained it.
05:33:41.320
So that sort of stuff happens fairly regularly.
05:33:44.840
Will Biden be able to dramatically reshape the Middle East without any sort of senatorial
05:33:51.100
And the fact that Republicans have been holding the Senate, and I do not think are going to
05:33:54.020
give a green light to that sort of thing, is definitely going to provide some sort of check.
05:33:57.700
I think he'll try to renegotiate something with the Iranians and with the Palestinians.
05:34:01.520
I just don't think there's a lot of regional interest in that right now.
05:34:04.160
So no, I don't think that Biden has the capacity to walk everything back.
05:34:06.580
Will it be a lot uglier in the Middle East because Biden is president, if God forbid he
05:34:13.060
But some of the realities on the ground have simply shifted.
05:34:15.980
And because those realities on the ground are the new realities, I don't think that we're
05:34:20.060
going back to a time when all of those Arab-Israel deals that just got made fall apart.
05:34:24.640
I don't think that that's exactly what's going to happen here.
05:34:27.400
I think that there is a high likelihood the opposite is going to happen, that reality is
05:34:32.540
now reality, and Biden is going to be going up against reality, and not much is going to
05:34:36.260
end up changing, despite Biden's most fervent efforts to the contrary.
05:34:42.160
Bickley and I are going to head back into the war room, guys, next time we see you.
05:34:48.840
We don't know if that'll be trending in the blue or the red direction, but we're going to
05:35:01.720
Eric, of course, is the founder of the intellectual dark web and a heterodox thinker who is no
05:35:09.240
longer welcome in his formerly leftist circles because of his heterodoxy.
05:35:14.860
So, you've been watching the results come in, Eric.
05:35:22.820
And you're, as a heterodox thinker and somebody who's been sort of touting the fact that Trump
05:35:27.680
has unique appeal to crowds that, you know, historically have not been Republican.
05:35:32.480
You've been sort of sounding the alarm on this for quite a while.
05:35:34.320
What was it that folks on the left, you're of the left in terms of your policy.
05:35:37.540
Well, I'm of the intellectual left, not the current Democratic Party version of the left.
05:35:46.280
So, what is it that everybody missed about Trump here?
05:35:49.360
Because regardless of how this election goes, it is a hell of a lot closer than it was supposed
05:35:58.400
The point is, it's very difficult to keep talking about preference falsification when
05:36:06.920
It's very difficult to talk to the left about the fact that scolding people, that they should
05:36:12.260
feel guilty because they resemble people who hundreds of years owned other people.
05:36:22.220
So, to be blunt about it, I just don't understand what the post-Clinton Democratic left is doing
05:36:30.980
institutionally because this isn't what left-of-center politics are supposed to be.
05:36:37.820
It's a repudiation of everything that we know about, I mean, the heart of being a progressive
05:36:44.520
So, at one point, you could have been a progressive and thought that communism was going to be progress
05:36:49.860
But, you know, a few unmarked graves later, you have to reevaluate whether or not you wish
05:37:00.760
In this situation, we're just seeing people lying continuously about Donald Trump.
05:37:08.140
And the idea that every person who doesn't go along with you is a white supremacist, whether
05:37:14.600
or not that person is black or Asian or Jewish, this has never made sense to anybody who isn't
05:37:24.520
And I just, I guess what I, you know, I had a tweet a while back, but I will be very surprised
05:37:30.540
if there isn't a stronger than expected Trump surge.
05:37:33.840
And while it's too early to call the election one way or the other, it's certainly not too
05:37:38.600
early to call the fact that once again, it appears to be off.
05:37:41.280
So, with that said, you know, right now, it seems like there is still a good possibility
05:37:47.400
that Biden wins, albeit narrowly, because Trump would have to at this point, if he, ABC is
05:37:54.760
That means that Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and obviously Iowa, and he needs to win Nevada
05:38:00.880
or he needs to win another state in order for that to manifest, a victory for him to manifest.
05:38:07.560
Do you think there's any reckoning at hand for the Democratic Party?
05:38:09.920
Do you think they rethink this thing, given the fact that Trump has pulled the outside
05:38:13.620
They thought that they were going to walk away with this thing with 350 electoral votes.
05:38:16.920
When you decide to go with somebody who's 78 years old at inauguration, you probably know
05:38:29.520
And I would say that what you're looking at is the last gasp of the gerontocracy.
05:38:33.980
It's very hard to find somebody who's willing to step into these shoes who's younger.
05:38:39.140
Now, at the tail end of regimes that end badly, like the Ceausescus, you usually have some
05:38:47.860
You know, here, you're the prime minister, good luck to you, sir.
05:38:52.840
Um, what I believe is, is that it's been very hard to attract young people to sign on to
05:39:06.340
Um, but I will say that the right has been getting more reasonable as the left continues
05:39:14.660
What does intellectual leftism look like at this point?
05:39:18.860
Well, I mean, to be honest with you, I'm worried that you guys aren't getting it.
05:39:22.740
I'm worried that you're going to lose capitalism because you're not realizing that you better
05:39:26.740
deal in Gen Z and the millennials at a minimum if you want people to continue to care about
05:39:34.380
the American experiment that I think that I'm interested in fighting with you guys about
05:39:39.520
Um, in other words, we have a situation in which, if you look at the way in which the
05:39:45.200
millennials are experiencing their lives in terms of home ownership, family formation,
05:39:49.820
they're not part of the American experience at an appropriate rate.
05:39:54.220
And if you guys don't wake up to the, uh, wonders of a little bit of socialism in order
05:39:59.020
to make sure that everybody's still trying to make capitalism work, good luck keeping...
05:40:03.820
You mean in the sense that, uh, some people put off buying a home, they put off having
05:40:08.260
kids, they put off getting married because they don't have enough money or they don't
05:40:13.920
I mean, I, I mean that if you are, uh, 35 years old and you don't have a home and you're,
05:40:23.560
So your biological clock is, uh, of concern to you.
05:40:28.420
Um, you're in a situation where you're about to, your, your life plan that you might've been
05:40:34.640
planning on if it was generic enough is about to be frustrated.
05:40:38.500
And what's worse is like, let's say you have parents who have a second home or a third home
05:40:46.800
And then there's some story about how they had a paper route and that, that paper route
05:40:51.160
And they put themselves through college because, you know, Lord knows they didn't have any debt
05:40:55.980
These young people have no concept of what this capitalist American experience is left
05:41:07.000
I, I would probably dispute that the issue is primarily economic though.
05:41:12.960
And I, I think you're, you're totally right that this issue of how we live our lives, how
05:41:17.780
we form families, how we settle down, how we integrate into a community.
05:41:21.540
If you lose that, you're going to lose the whole system.
05:41:23.720
Well, and the question is, how do you get the Gini coefficients that measure the amount
05:41:27.720
of inequality in a society to go down without the barrel of a gun pointed at anyone?
05:41:33.120
When you, when you talk about a little bit of, of socialism, the word has come to mean
05:41:38.640
Originally it meant the state taking over the means of production.
05:41:43.300
No, I think what they're doing is they're abstracting to a layer of indirection where
05:41:46.980
socialism in, in its meta kind of guise is that you're going to have to recognize that
05:41:53.180
the market's distributional mechanism under the political economy that we currently experience
05:41:59.480
and under some of the intensifying effects where a small number of people can capture almost
05:42:04.960
all of the value in a space from a small difference in quality.
05:42:10.740
And when you can't say that that person is wealthy because they contributed $4 worth of
05:42:18.800
value on average to every American, when you have to say, well, that person is wealthy
05:42:24.060
because of something involving reverse loans and trusts and the Cayman Islands, then you
05:42:34.120
And then you get the word success replaced by the word privilege.
05:42:36.780
And I can tell how much you're all enjoying that word.
05:42:39.440
What happens though, are we talking about, are we talking about a failure of capitalism
05:42:45.740
or are we talking about a corruption of capitalism?
05:42:48.080
Are we dealing with what they call crony capitalism, which is really just cronyism so that the free
05:42:53.440
market is now so slanted that it doesn't matter?
05:42:55.020
It is worth, it is worth pointing out here, Drew, the term capitalism was popularized by Marxists.
05:43:01.460
But just to play with my conservative friends here, if I were to say, you know, the problem
05:43:06.480
with communism is it's never really been tried, you guys would all laugh, right?
05:43:15.460
You want to know what the problem is with real capitalism?
05:43:17.220
Well, it depends on what the solution that's being proposed is.
05:43:19.340
Because if the solution is government subsidization of particular groups at the expense of other
05:43:26.220
groups, which is a certain level of redistributionism, that's one thing.
05:43:30.180
If what we're talking about is relieving the government from providing subsidies, then that's
05:43:37.560
I don't know why I desire to help the loyal opposition, but in some sort of Stockholm syndrome
05:43:44.980
or bridge over the river Kwai moment, I did notice that you guys were talking about the
05:43:52.580
You guys have a very easy road if you want to, which is stop treating professors as people
05:43:58.100
looking for government handouts due to your precious tax dollars.
05:44:02.940
Realize that you've effectively made it impossible to claim intellectual property rights from basic
05:44:10.740
We're going to poke a hole because we recognize that market failure is a real thing.
05:44:14.420
Markets are fantastic, but they don't do everything for you.
05:44:17.080
And what we're going to do is we are going to commit to people in STEM subjects to make sure
05:44:21.520
that they get their academic freedom back, that they're not worried about grants.
05:44:24.640
They're not worried about being humiliated, and then you can have professors again.
05:44:28.160
But the place that you guys went wrong is that you started treating professors as, and
05:44:33.940
the famous quote is, welfare queens in lab coats.
05:44:40.220
But my only issue is, did we ever really have the professors?
05:44:43.460
You know, I'm reminded of God and Man at Yale by Buckley.
05:44:46.280
He says, even back in the 50s, all his professors were pinkos.
05:44:49.060
Well, but the problem is that you guys tend to see things a little bit black and white.
05:44:55.760
That's not quite the same thing as the North Campus majors at UCLA.
05:44:59.300
Well, but you guys think that universities are about teaching, and great universities are
05:45:04.240
And we put a fig leaf of teaching on the front of them because of Van of our Bush.
05:45:10.000
There's always been a mixed thing between Democrats and Republicans.
05:45:13.280
You don't need to worry about real Democrats and people who are really of the left.
05:45:17.200
What I always say is that the Tom Lehrer left and the P.J. O'Rourke right can get along
05:45:22.540
The problem is the batshit crazy Charlottesville right and the ridiculous Antifa left need
05:45:29.680
to get a room and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
05:45:33.660
I always say that the thing with the far right, no one in this room is for the far right.
05:45:40.340
The far right is on the comments section of Breitbart.
05:45:48.060
But to be blunt about it, there are norms that prevented the far right from finding each
05:45:55.180
As they did at the beginning of the Trump administration.
05:45:57.840
So there was a period that actually wasn't that long lived where the extreme right...
05:46:04.320
And I don't even want to call them the extreme right.
05:46:05.660
I want to talk about them as the bigoted, really ugly right.
05:46:14.500
And the question is, would the same thing happen in a Biden administration in which the
05:46:19.800
far left thinks, OK, cool, we've been part of the Big Ten.
05:46:23.620
This to me is the big question I wanted to ask you about it, because this is what I've been
05:46:26.740
considering, is that the future of the country at this point, it seems to me, is really more
05:46:31.040
about whether mainstream liberals decide that they are more interested in opening up the
05:46:37.860
Overton window wide enough to have discussions with people who are not of their political
05:46:41.480
persuasion, but they have in common a belief in individual rights and freedom of speech
05:46:46.020
and freedom of conversation, or whether they're so wedded to their policy priorities that they
05:46:50.500
believe they can more easily achieve those by dumping over all those things and making
05:46:53.580
common cause with the woke left and sort of the Antifa crowd.
05:46:57.360
Because it seems like that is the question, like the Harper's Weekly letter that they put
05:47:00.980
out where there's all these mainstream liberals, all of whom voted for Joe Biden and none
05:47:04.880
of whom voted for Trump, talking about how the Overton window needed to be widened.
05:47:09.360
On the one hand, I thought, OK, that's a good thing.
05:47:10.900
On the other hand, I thought this would be so much more effective if you had had one person
05:47:15.160
It's like you want to open the Overton window just wide enough to let you and your buddies
05:47:18.820
through, but not quite wide enough to actually have a conversation with anybody who disagrees
05:47:22.460
But you guys are, the way that the modern left is formulated, you're not just people with
05:47:36.360
But in fact, nothing you're saying, at least for me and Knowles, I would say, nothing you're
05:47:40.160
saying is so far out there that we couldn't find some place of common ground.
05:47:47.140
Ben, I once asked Ben the question, what happens when the market can't reach the median
05:47:55.820
And he says, then we'd have to consider other measures.
05:47:57.600
I said, Ben, why don't you say things like that in front of the world?
05:48:00.040
He says, because you, Eric, are highly specific in what you're complaining about.
05:48:07.480
So you're going to go after the sons of bitches.
05:48:10.560
When I ask you for a solution and you say things like, okay, we need to not put, you know,
05:48:14.940
that we need to strengthen patent law for people in STEM and protect their, like that.
05:48:19.480
Everybody recognizes since the founding that patent law is a place where markets actually
05:48:23.440
experience failure because otherwise there'd be no actual rationale for discovering anything
05:48:27.780
because if you don't protect intellectual property, intellectual property is a form of property.
05:48:33.620
It's literally in the constitution that the federal government has the power of patents.
05:48:40.240
What I want is to recognize that we have the world's greatest deal by ensuring that our
05:48:47.360
research scientists give us stuff for simply being immunized from the market.
05:48:52.960
If you're immunized from the market and you're given academic freedom, you don't have a billion
05:48:57.520
dollars, but you have the security of a guy with a billion dollars.
05:49:01.660
It really matters that I can go into my work every day and know that no matter what I say,
05:49:09.200
Yeah, but it wasn't fair because then the whole point was, right at some point, badly
05:49:15.240
misgaged the situation in academics and went into this kind of market purity thing.
05:49:24.720
I sort of feel like we were moving out of that.
05:49:27.040
But that's what my point is, is that you guys have an easy path to victory in the academy.
05:49:33.240
But if you get 10 percent, you get a beachhead, then you get enough to allow people to have
05:49:38.420
both perspectives in terms of the political parties.
05:49:43.560
But it's like a one line piece of spackle or retroactive continuity.
05:49:51.140
You know, it's funny because we've been talking all night about how if President Trump makes
05:49:54.820
inroads with the black vote, he's not going to win 50 percent.
05:50:00.280
And that would be a huge deal because that really hampers the Democrats.
05:50:03.520
It sounds like you're saying a similar thing with professors.
05:50:05.860
You might not get 50 percent of the professors.
05:50:07.660
But if you made some roads into academia, you've you've really got a place from which
05:50:13.300
I mean, look, the reason that I really in the modern era can't stand the Republican Party
05:50:18.640
is that in part on your watch under Ronald Reagan, you came up with completely disastrous
05:50:24.640
ideas for figuring out how to tamper with the wage mechanism for American scientists.
05:50:29.860
And my feeling is, is that you guys are anti-market manipulators who completely destroyed the
05:50:36.740
crown jewel of American intellectual life, which is our research complex.
05:50:43.420
But it seems it seems to me that something else I knew what the hell you were talking about.
05:50:54.520
There was a guy named Eric Block, who was the first non-academic head of the National Science
05:50:59.440
Foundation, and he realized that we were going to have to pay more money to scientists because
05:51:04.260
the demographics of the baby busts were going to mean that the supply curve came in.
05:51:09.480
And so what he realized is, is that if we flooded the market with foreign students who
05:51:16.100
are not actually students, they're workers, that we can push out the supply curve and you
05:51:21.080
And then what they did in order to disguise the fact that they were manipulating a market
05:51:24.720
is that they removed the demand curves and claimed it was only a demographic analysis.
05:51:29.800
Now, that thing is what led to the Immigration Act of 1990.
05:51:33.360
Now, you guys don't even know about that because nobody knows about this story because nobody
05:51:37.020
in the left of center media wants to talk about this.
05:51:41.260
And the right of center media hasn't caught on.
05:51:43.380
Now, what I'm trying to tell you is there's so much soul searching real conservatives and
05:51:52.620
Because to be blunt, you guys also want to see the progress of the human race.
05:51:57.420
And I want to see the best aspects of our world conserved.
05:52:01.000
We're just not sitting down and having those conversations.
05:52:03.660
Instead, we're having moronic conversations about either the market solves everything or
05:52:11.680
It frightens me that I completely agree with you about this.
05:52:15.920
But it also seems to me that there's another aspect of this, another flow of information
05:52:24.800
coming in there where you start with guys on the cultural side, guys like Edward Said
05:52:33.940
And those people start to infect the STEM people in your universities where suddenly they're saying
05:52:40.760
to you, well, if you make certain discoveries, you're fired.
05:52:43.320
And that's the kind of thing that we wind up arguing with.
05:52:47.340
We wind up arguing with the cultural left and maybe not hearing what's happening.
05:52:52.420
Why not spend less time with grievance studies people and more time with the people who actually
05:52:58.720
make sure that the bombs don't go off prematurely and that they land in the right place?
05:53:05.420
Because the culture wars are a barrier to entry.
05:53:07.820
Meaning you and I can have this conversation because we have a baseline.
05:53:10.200
And we can all have this conversation because we already have a baseline agreement on certain
05:53:15.440
And I think it's also behind a lot of what is going on right now in even the discussion
05:53:20.880
about the demographic shifts and the new voter coalitions.
05:53:24.680
I think a lot of people are putting a lot away.
05:53:26.100
I know, Henry Olson, we've had this conversation a lot on this particular sort of backstage show.
05:53:30.100
Henry Olson puts a lot of weight on the sort of Donald Trump economic program, immigration
05:53:34.960
restrictionism, and trying to boost wages either with subsidies or in other semi-artificial
05:53:42.940
And I really kind of believe that Donald Trump's actual appeal to most of the folks he's winning
05:53:51.620
I think it has very much to do with the fact that the left is refusing a baseline level of
05:53:56.840
conversation until foreclosing these conversations.
05:54:00.140
I think that if we had a debate, a public debate right now between Joe Biden and Donald
05:54:04.080
Trump over how to properly fund higher education in STEM, I think that the American people would
05:54:09.920
go to sleep because they recognize that, number one, it doesn't actually apply.
05:54:16.520
It doesn't apply to them in their immediate life.
05:54:18.120
What does apply to them in their immediate life is the fact that when they go on social media,
05:54:21.600
they are, in fact, called white supremacists for saying they might vote for Trump or they
05:54:25.580
are suggested to be religious bigots if they go to church.
05:54:28.020
And so for the better conversations to happen, and I think this is what we're watching right
05:54:31.440
now, for the better conversations to happen, there has to be a baseline agreement on values
05:54:37.300
And I don't think that Joe Biden is going to put that back into evidence.
05:54:41.780
Oddly enough, the supposed threats in the institutions, Donald Trump, the supposed fascist
05:54:45.060
Donald Trump, he seems a lot more willing to have those conversations with people on
05:54:48.120
the other side than the left is willing to have those conversations with Trump.
05:54:50.360
Plus, Trump is more likely to sign a deal along the lines of what you're talking about.
05:54:56.500
So the idea is social justice is actually about social vengeance.
05:55:01.580
I understand that, but I don't want to oppress you guys and I don't want vengeance.
05:55:04.640
What I do want to do is impress upon you that kind of you started the destruction of the
05:55:10.860
American science and engineering enterprise on your watch, and it would be really great to
05:55:15.920
get right-of-center people to be more patriotic, to be more individualistic.
05:55:21.460
I feel like you guys aren't sufficiently individualistic.
05:55:28.400
I have trouble taking blame for a thing that happened when I was two.
05:55:32.240
But the question is going, going forward again.
05:55:37.320
You have an opportunity to stand up for academic freedom.
05:55:42.600
I think that it's narrow, but that it's important.
05:55:44.620
You said something early in your remarks that I think goes to why that conversation is difficult.
05:55:52.500
You said in the beginning of the Trump ascendancy, there were the radical right, and then you
05:55:58.220
I said, well, I shouldn't say the extreme was your word.
05:56:03.100
I think that's fair because I would think of, for example, an extreme Christian as someone
05:56:08.720
who really, really, really believes in Christian doctrine.
05:56:12.180
The extreme right, the alt-right, the America first chumps, they don't believe in an extreme
05:56:21.040
They believe in this sort of something very different, this bigotry.
05:56:25.760
But there is another side to that, which is what I think Drew was alluding to.
05:56:30.380
There is an extreme left, which is engaged in a sort of revolutionary movement in this
05:56:38.500
And unfortunately, the extreme left has mainstream power within the Democrat Party.
05:56:43.160
I actually don't think that Antifa is the extreme left.
05:56:45.920
I would compare them more to your bigoted right.
05:56:54.840
They want to change the fundamental structures of our society.
05:57:02.740
And because of that, it's very difficult for us to even engage on these sorts of issues.
05:57:07.060
I mean, it's difficult for me to engage in these issues, because I don't know what the
05:57:12.800
But it's difficult to have these conversations with anyone, because on the left, the extreme
05:57:22.240
I mean, since we are doing election night, quick update.
05:57:40.800
It is extremely likely at this point that Republicans hold the Senate.
05:57:44.740
They would have to, in order to lose the Senate, they would have to lose both the Collins
05:57:50.420
Divided government is the best government, unless we control everything.
05:57:53.860
Also, by the way, Chip Roy did win his race in Texas.
05:57:58.580
Nobody deserves to be in Congress less than Wendy Davis.
05:58:07.380
I want to give you a chance to respond to that.
05:58:09.460
And then I actually have my own big news, which we're going to have to go to Cassie Dillon
05:58:13.860
But it's going to be the most cathartic, enjoyable moment, I think, of the night.
05:58:17.660
I don't think there's any chance they call it the election tonight.
05:58:24.500
By the way, I am excited about divided government because I don't want either of these two potential
05:58:31.220
But I don't even see anybody to take over from.
05:58:36.760
So you were saying that the weird move to the left, the left that doesn't, see, I don't
05:58:46.420
I want to call it the group of people that don't believe in the law of the excluded
05:58:52.920
It's like people who are somehow experimenting with the idea that consistency is a white supremacist.
05:59:03.660
Well, all of these showing up on time and practicing the piano is a white because I don't know.
05:59:12.520
So there's no way of responding to it because you can't even process what the argument is.
05:59:19.180
Somebody once said to me, you're not understanding, Eric.
05:59:31.120
That's why A implies B and B implies C means that A implies a chicken.
05:59:36.100
That thing is really weird because, you see, most of the people that I know don't use that kind of thinking in their business.
05:59:51.740
If you use that kind of thinking in your business, your business would usually evaporate.
05:59:55.480
If you use that on your tax returns and you just turned in something in red crayon with lots of pictures of hearts and rainbows, no one would know at the IRS what you were doing.
06:00:06.500
Now, you can talk in these crazy terms in political circumstances.
06:00:14.700
Well, this is because I think of the divide between the practical and the ethereal on the left that almost everyone I say almost because I think probably some of the radicals, the true radicals don't.
06:00:25.020
But most people who are going to vote for Joe Biden tonight, most people even who think that he should pack the court, most people even who think maybe Puerto Rico should be a state without a filibuster on a simple majority vote.
06:00:34.860
They actually live their day to day lives in much more conservative ways.
06:00:41.340
It's when they're asserting their values in the social world in which we live.
06:00:49.540
Something has happened in our culture where you are a bad person if you don't.
06:00:55.840
Well, but this is where the Harper's letter comes into play.
06:00:59.600
The Harper's letter is really this very weird story where you had a group of people doing the hiring in newsrooms, let's say, or publication, various sort of center-left publications.
06:01:11.540
To appeal to the kids, let's get some of this woke stuff.
06:01:15.080
And the woke reporters will go after other people.
06:01:17.820
And they won't turn on their masters because we hired them.
06:01:20.480
For a period of time, this idea of, you know, playing Tiger King worked.
06:01:28.280
And then you keep feeding these tigers and suddenly they view their trainers as a source of protein.
06:01:34.600
And these people are saying, wait a minute, you can't come after us.
06:01:40.660
And that's what the Harper's letter was all about.
06:01:42.720
It's basically saying, hey, we may have goofed by playing with this in order to get some buzz and some energy.
06:01:53.420
But in the analogy, who's that bitch Carol Baskin?
06:02:01.040
It's actually the find of our very own Cassie Dillon, who is in our war room with something.
06:02:06.180
It's just so, I mean, prepare yourself with a nice leftist-tears hot or cold tumbler for what you are about to behold.
06:02:19.020
It seems that the left is starting to get a little bit anxious, especially over at the Young Turks.
06:02:23.580
So I have a video for you that I think you will all enjoy.
06:02:28.740
Both Jake Tapper and Nancy Pelosi and all those and every editor at the New York Times has to get out of our way.
06:02:37.140
Let us hit the Republicans in the face instead of playing patty cakes with them.
06:02:42.380
How many elections are we going to get to a razor's edge with a monster, idiot fascist like Donald Trump?
06:03:04.860
And you couldn't figure out how to crush him in an election?
06:03:08.040
Man, the corporate Democrats and the mainstream media suck at this.
06:03:14.560
And they brainwash smart people into compliance.
06:03:26.000
You know, he looks like he's having a good time over there.
06:03:30.160
Like I said, we are not in full meltdown mode right now.
06:03:35.440
So there's a few other things going on in Twitter as well.
06:03:38.060
A bunch of blue check marks are really getting nervous.
06:03:40.560
One of them is talking about our entire earth is on the line.
06:03:46.060
Another one is saying that you shouldn't be shocked.
06:03:50.740
And then we have AOC who said she's not going to comment on today's election results,
06:03:54.880
but that she's seen this coming for a long time.
06:04:00.880
And Jimmy Kimmel said, this is like being awake during your own surgery.
06:04:03.920
So it seems they're having some lukewarm meltdowns.
06:04:06.940
But I will be here giving you guys updates if we have anything else interesting.
06:04:17.560
I do enjoy, Chank, doing a takeoff on the electoral stupidity of losing an election to Donald Trump.
06:04:26.740
I will just remind you that in 2020, he did run for Congress, right, in a special election.
06:04:34.640
Because it was to replace Katie Hill after Katie Hill resigned.
06:04:48.360
After, you'll recall, Bernie Sanders endorsed him and then unendorsed him.
06:04:51.880
So, yeah, there is electoral genius, Chank Iger,
06:05:03.080
Chank is not a guy with whom you're going to have conversations about how to remake the country
06:05:08.240
into some sort of better left and better right.
06:05:15.280
Oregon has now decriminalized possession of all drugs,
06:05:30.980
He just turned his car around, actually, on the way to Texas.
06:05:34.380
And Ruben just said he was staying in California.
06:05:47.680
Well, decriminalization means that you can get fined, I think.
06:05:52.520
Decriminalization is the worst kind of soft tyranny,
06:05:55.780
because it leads to capriciousness in the government.
06:05:58.620
If you're going to have a law, enforce the law.
06:06:01.420
If we agree that the law is wrong, then change the law.
06:06:04.840
The worst thing is to say we're going to have a law,
06:06:09.080
because it erodes the entire idea of equal justice, right?
06:06:14.840
Well, let's also agree that just the federal Schedule I designation
06:06:21.100
of controlled substances is being wildly misapplied.
06:06:27.260
one of which is that there's no medical value whatsoever,
06:06:30.440
and then there has to be a high capacity for harm.
06:06:32.960
And we have things on that list where neither of these things is true.
06:06:36.980
And so there's also the question that you have to figure out
06:06:39.900
how the law should be implemented once you've come up with a schema for it
06:06:43.300
that's not even being implemented consistently.
06:06:45.740
But I do want to get back to this issue about the idea of
06:06:49.500
what do we make of, let's say, Kamala Harris tweeting out this cartoon
06:06:54.960
where she manages to drop the G on the end of gerunds and things
06:06:59.520
in order to get a black vernacular sort of a feel to what she's doing.
06:07:04.920
You mean our African-American, Indian, Jamaican candidate for vice president?
06:07:13.680
We used to say things like, you know, I am a licensed physician
06:07:17.560
or I am a physicist, and now you say, as a Peruvian of color.
06:07:26.840
That is the new designation of whether you have something to say.
06:07:31.300
Nobody quite knows what to make of this mainstreaming of incoherent,
06:07:43.920
So, you know, coming from a background which had plenty of communists in it,
06:07:47.820
the aphorism I always thought was from each according to his ability
06:07:52.280
And despite the fact that that uses a third-person gendered pronoun,
06:08:06.760
The other problem with that is that it acknowledges that people have different abilities.
06:08:12.740
So the idea is we are so far beyond communism, we don't even have language.
06:08:16.520
And, you know, my feeling about this is I do think we're going to have to take care of people.
06:08:22.780
The market is not doing a good job with distribution issues,
06:08:25.500
and part of the problem is political economy gets plowed back into the situation,
06:08:34.380
However, I think that what we have to do is we have to repudiate ideologies that do not compile.
06:08:42.300
And the great benefit of far-left ideology is that because it doesn't make sense,
06:08:48.580
it's very hard to argue with something that gives up on consistency at the outset.
06:08:54.620
Remember, the principle of explosion says that in any intellectual system,
06:08:59.020
if you allow a single contradiction, anything can be deduced.
06:09:02.440
So largely, the left, who is beyond any place I've ever been,
06:09:07.240
is trying to smuggle one contradiction through airport security
06:09:10.260
so that they can have everything on the other side.
06:09:14.540
Didn't they actually do that, though, with LGBTQ, right?
06:09:17.740
Once you lump transsexuals in with homosexuals, you've created your contradiction.
06:09:24.940
If the entire argument for the last 40 years is that...
06:09:35.320
And then you also say that within that same framework, gender is a social construct.
06:09:41.500
Haven't you baked that fundamental contradiction?
06:09:45.740
This is a real headline that came out last week,
06:09:47.620
that a woman realized she was a lesbian after her husband realized he was really a woman.
06:09:52.340
So nothing has changed in their marriage at all.
06:09:54.340
But they've both fundamentally changed their sexual preferences and identity.
06:10:04.560
You know, look, there's a bigger and better issue.
06:10:10.680
The fact that the far left can't play its cards properly doesn't mean that they don't
06:10:16.180
And part of the problem is, is that you guys have to steal, man, if you want to understand
06:10:22.820
You know, if I were a lungi or a kilt, are you telling me that that is feminine, not in
06:10:29.640
On the other hand, a skirt is gendered inside of the constructs of the United States.
06:10:36.160
So you guys even will admit to the idea that there is some variability, that these things
06:10:42.960
There's nothing intrinsically masculine or feminine about the concept of a skirt.
06:10:47.420
But all of those cultures also recognize the difference between male and female garb.
06:10:51.440
But on the other hand, you have lots of situations.
06:10:53.500
For example, the Ayatollah Khomeini allowed for sex transitions in a fatwa.
06:10:59.260
South Sulawesi, you, I think, have five identified genders.
06:11:03.120
Intersex is the one thing which I always reach out to my conservative friends, which is you
06:11:10.360
You should start steering on the basis of intersex.
06:11:13.560
We have people, we have dudes who have uteruses.
06:11:18.340
I always bring up persistent Mullerian duct syndrome, and you can...
06:11:26.800
Like, an objective outside viewer of the situation could tell that there was an objective thing
06:11:31.860
This is our opportunity to come together, which is you have to recognize, for example, that
06:11:36.260
the third person singular pronouns in English are inflected for gender, unlike in something
06:11:42.500
So, what you don't do is you never have the third person singular and plural pronoun be
06:11:51.460
On the other hand, you can imagine a one-time, backwards incompatible change in the language
06:11:56.800
as we did when we stopped inflecting the honorific for females with marital status.
06:12:01.320
But it is worth pointing out, the OED does define he as gender-neutral as well as gendered,
06:12:07.420
In the beginning, God created man, both male and female.
06:12:09.680
He created them, and then the women, W-I-M-M-I-N, or however they spelled it in the 70s, took
06:12:15.260
umbrage at this fact, but it did have, it was understood in the English language.
06:12:19.940
It was understood, but it had a particular, it had a particular bias.
06:12:23.640
If you want to make fun of these people for not making sense, that's not the place to
06:12:28.080
You can say, look, there is a version of this story in which we have neglected people who
06:12:32.700
don't fall neatly into a sexual identification category, either in terms of who they're attracted
06:12:38.940
No, the thing that's mockable is the statement that there is no such thing as a biological
06:12:46.620
The idea that sex is so malleable and gender is so malleable that a man being fully biological
06:12:51.860
male can call himself a female, and we are all supposed to pretend that that person is
06:12:56.180
now a biological female, that's absurd on its face.
06:12:58.880
Yeah, but you know, Ben, even there, and again, I don't want to reveal too much about our conversations,
06:13:04.220
but you and I have talked about the fact that when you've been faced with somebody who's
06:13:07.380
in a great deal of distress over your particular comments on pronouns, that you take a compassionate
06:13:12.440
humanist view, and you don't want to irritate that person.
06:13:15.000
Your point has been that I don't want to give up this argument if that's what we're discussing,
06:13:21.720
Public treatment of issues is that mercy is a part of human life, but that does not mean
06:13:32.220
I've made the speech that you're making right now in college.
06:13:39.960
No, I mean, look, nature is messy, and the dots that go with masculinity, they generally
06:13:48.520
They are spread out in this weird way, but everything you're saying, everything you're
06:13:53.380
saying is taking place within a context of male and female.
06:13:57.000
It's taking place within a context, a basic context, a norm.
06:14:02.600
It comes out of nature, and I want to be able to, you know, science is sort of an absolute
06:14:07.560
You can't ask me to negate the science as a scientist when it contradicts political ideology.
06:14:15.120
All I'm trying to suggest is that we had a lot to do that we could have done on intersex
06:14:21.580
and on separating gender from sexuality, just doing it in an intellectually rigorous and
06:14:32.680
And then we could get to this issue, for example, of the umbrella category.
06:14:35.780
The reason that trans is so controversial is like stroke.
06:14:39.160
Stroke, you can get strokes from clotting, and you can get strokes from having blood that's
06:14:43.840
So the fact that you're talking about a stroke doesn't give you enough information.
06:14:47.800
You need extra information because the term is overloaded.
06:14:54.160
I mean, all of this is, I think, interesting and worthy of conversation.
06:14:58.640
The biggest problem is we keep coming back to is that literally these conversations are
06:15:04.880
I've literally had these exact conversations with people on the most popular left-wing podcast
06:15:09.880
in America outside of the podcast and said, we should do a crossover because it'll be
06:15:14.040
And the person I was speaking to, I won't mention any names, specifically said, your
06:15:19.080
people would be fine with having that conversation publicly.
06:15:25.300
I know that we have to do more election updates because I know that there is a presidential
06:15:29.520
And people are in our chat room right now saying, stop talking about things that matter.
06:15:34.320
All we want to know is what Cabot says is happening in the Rust Belt.
06:15:46.440
What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersexuality?
06:15:51.020
What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersectionality?
06:15:53.960
I don't know about that, but we do have some updates and kind of piggybacking on that AOC
06:15:58.340
Unfortunately, she's not the only Democrat now that's using this talking point that we're not
06:16:07.240
And I will say that my bingo card, the last word I needed was the guys downstairs saying
06:16:16.400
There's a tweet coming out, to your point, from Bloomberg.
06:16:20.260
She says, according to sources in states, this is state officials she's referring to, Wisconsin
06:16:24.400
says there's no way they are announcing a winner tonight.
06:16:28.820
Pennsylvania said they aren't coming out anytime soon either.
06:16:31.460
So, if you had champagne ready on either side to expect to be able to celebrate tonight,
06:16:37.380
So, to give a breakdown of what the numbers are in those states right now, Wisconsin, 72%
06:16:42.680
President Trump holding strong, 52% to Biden's 46.6%.
06:16:47.180
In Michigan, where there's 52% in, President Trump up 54.5% to Biden's 43.3%.
06:16:52.700
We're still waiting on a lot of results from Wayne County.
06:16:54.800
So, we're going to certainly expect that gap to be narrowed quite quickly.
06:16:58.520
Pennsylvania, 55% in, President Trump up 56% to 41% in Pennsylvania with 55% in.
06:17:08.800
We've also had a lot of viewers commenting, asking about Virginia.
06:17:11.380
They're saying why, you know, Virginia was called so soon by Fox.
06:17:15.760
President Trump has been leading throughout the night.
06:17:18.480
To answer those questions, we've talked to some people in Virginia.
06:17:20.940
And from what we've been able to gather, the main holdup is Fairfax County.
06:17:24.400
So, this is a northern Virginia county that is going about 3 to 1, or about 75% of the
06:17:30.880
And there are 400,000 uncounted votes in Fairfax County that came in early.
06:17:35.720
So, if that same ratio holds up, if it's about 75 to 25 for Biden, that's where he's going
06:17:40.780
to make up the gap that there is right now, because there is a gap.
06:17:44.280
And President Trump's still holding strong in the betting market, something we've been
06:17:50.400
And one more thing to add, New York Times prediction in Georgia had climbed all the way
06:17:56.200
It seems like he's losing a little momentum in Georgia.
06:17:58.460
He's down to 62% of the New York Times prediction there.
06:18:01.740
So, still favored to win by the New York Times models, but it is starting to drop a little
06:18:06.280
And we earlier talked about the correlation between the Senate races and the presidential.
06:18:12.800
Because that's a race where a lot of people are paying attention to.
06:18:15.300
Is Joni Ernst going to be able to keep her safe?
06:18:17.980
Last we checked, Joni Ernst was up about four points with 82% reporting.
06:18:22.240
So, it looks like Joni Ernst is going to retain her position in the Senate, which is
06:18:27.260
Suzanne Collins also looking like she will be retaining her position based on the way that
06:18:33.240
So, where we stand now, guys, is it's looking like White House toss-up at this point might
06:18:43.300
There are plausible scenarios where there is a 269 to 269 tie.
06:18:50.940
It's not going to take that much for it to happen either.
06:18:53.420
If the president wins Pennsylvania and a few other states, and Biden holds where he is
06:18:58.280
right now, and then wins Minnesota and Michigan, we're at 269 to 269.
06:19:03.120
And so, White House, undecided at this point, could be a toss-up.
06:19:08.180
It looks like Senate Republicans are going to hold?
06:19:11.660
Based on the projections right now, if things go in the right direction, it's going to be
06:19:17.940
But it's looking like worst-case scenario right now is a 50-50 tie in the Senate.
06:19:25.220
Then the vice president would be presiding over any tied votes, which Vice President Pence,
06:19:30.500
I'm already having terrifying images of Kamala Harris coming in, walking down the aisle straight
06:19:35.780
up, and letting everyone know that she's there to preside.
06:19:38.700
Yeah, I'm sure she'd love that over her former colleagues.
06:19:41.180
I could just see her like that really happy grin on her face.
06:19:44.320
I'm having trouble thinking about anything else besides that.
06:19:46.660
We're going to stay on top of all the data, though, keep you up to date.
06:19:49.560
But the big summary here right now is that, according to Bloomberg reports, state officials
06:19:55.520
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin could be until Friday before we have all the results.
06:19:59.260
Okay, guys, we're going to keep seeing what members want to talk about.
06:20:04.100
Once again, things that we have, the contacts on the ground, and thank you guys for working
06:20:09.920
We're going to get back to the war room, and then we will get you guys some more information
06:20:19.700
They're now saying that it could be tilting toward Biden again, so late votes coming in
06:20:24.760
There's a lot of controversy over at Fox, and some of the commentators that are like Katie
06:20:27.740
Pavlich, very angry at Fox for having called Arizona early, although the vote would have
06:20:32.080
to come in very late and very heavy for Trump to still win.
06:20:35.380
Arizona, Minnesota has been called for Biden, which was kind of Trump's, that was his wish
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That was going to be the one where if he won Minnesota in replacement for Arizona, for
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That leaves Nevada as the only flippable state for Trump at this point.
06:20:53.280
So it looks, the one thing that I think we can bank on is that it looks very much like
06:20:59.520
They actually pick up some seats in the House and we will see where Trump is tomorrow or
06:21:07.860
So the good news is that the downside risk for Republicans just went down pretty significantly
06:21:12.120
because President Biden with the Republican Senate and a less, actually a less heavy House
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majority is a very different Joe Biden administration than Joe Biden with a Democratic Senate and
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And now, like, well, it just means, for example, the filibuster ain't gone.
06:21:34.860
And also the next election cycle, 2022, very much favors Republicans.
06:21:38.340
There are a lot of vulnerable Democrats in purple states in those elections.
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So that would, you know, presumably rare, you know, in a president's first midterm that
06:21:56.720
The good news from tonight is that Republicans look like they're going to walk away with the
06:22:01.040
By the way, I didn't make any predictions on the air.
06:22:03.340
Drew, I told you this was going to happen earlier today.
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You know, again, I have hesitated to make public predictions about the presidential race.
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I told you, I did say that my gut was, I will say, it's hard to say this guy didn't
06:22:18.120
say publicly, but I did say that my gut was that Trump was, that Biden was ahead narrowly
06:22:21.580
on points and that the Republicans would retain the Senate.
06:22:24.740
I mean, I did, that was sort of my off the air prediction.
06:22:30.320
Losing Arizona is a major blow to his hopes because it means that he now has to win.
06:22:38.660
Or it means that he has to pick up Wisconsin and or Michigan plus Pennsylvania.
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We're not going to know anything the rest of the night.
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I mean, basically, we could we could call this thing if we wanted to, but we're not going
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We're going to keep going for the next four days.
06:23:04.340
So may I make a cultural comment here for a moment?
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No, I have to say the thing that's been like just sticking in my head all night long is
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the level, obviously not among us because we're idiots, but the level of conversation
06:23:20.300
of the people that we've had on Ron DeSantis, Megyn Kelly, Megyn Kelly off cable news, sitting
06:23:36.260
You know, but just like the kind of person where you sit there and go like, oh, I met
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this really bright woman who really understands and has a lot of experience in understanding
06:23:49.080
I mean, but I think it's a fair comparison because chink is not that much different than
06:23:55.680
Obviously, you know, I mean, this is a different level.
06:23:59.300
Obviously, the conversation we're just having is on a different level.
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But just the fact that we're going to have these conversations makes us the go to place,
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But but also any place that's willing to have these conversations.
06:24:18.560
It's much better tonight in terms of the actual polling numbers.
06:24:22.200
In terms of it's much better than anybody thought that it was going to be just a few
06:24:28.480
I mean, like if you had said at the beginning of the night that Trump was going to pick
06:24:31.240
up North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and that Republicans were going to retain the
06:24:36.640
Senate, then that would have been considered a pretty good night going in, considering
06:24:42.680
By the way, Fox News just retracted their call for Biden in Arizona.
06:24:50.500
They have to stop calling these things so damned early.
06:24:53.100
And they call them while the votes are still like and they were doing it, by the way.
06:24:55.960
Fox announced they were doing this based on exit polling plus early data.
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You know, when you have when when John Nolte is going after Fox, you know that they've
06:25:13.280
I'm not entirely sure that Fox has lost its way.
06:25:16.800
I think that our perspective on Fox is has always been flawed.
06:25:22.420
I think that we've always loved Fox because they are unique among cable news.
06:25:28.160
In other words, the very fact that we have anything makes us happy.
06:25:33.340
But to say that Fox is conservative is only true because of how far left the entire establishment
06:25:42.180
I mean, if you think about the golden era of Fox, the primetime lineup was and it wasn't
06:25:49.340
I think you fairly would say that he was the beginning of their primetime coverage at five.
06:25:52.560
You had Glenn Beck, you had not Brett Baer, who, oh, Brit Hume.
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Brit Hume and and his his predecessor, his predecessor.
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I think that's the best actual news show on cable news.
06:26:51.900
And Glenn Beck, who was a true ideological conservative.
06:26:56.080
So if you really think about that lineup, that is a far more diverse lineup than CNN has,
06:27:06.660
For me, the core of Fox News has always been Brett Baer or Brit Hume.
06:27:10.400
That new show, which has just delivered a fair new show with a conversation at the end
06:27:14.760
that slanted right, kind of like The Wall Street Journal, but included left wing.
06:27:18.540
Use more left wing views than you'd find right wing views anywhere else.
06:27:22.080
My my problem is, is that they seem to have lost the capacity to gather information objectively.
06:27:34.820
That they are no longer gathering polling information with a with a with restraint.
06:27:40.220
And what you're saying, they're calling things too early.
06:27:45.040
They're they're trying to compete with the machinery of the networks without the machinery.
06:27:49.780
There's a lot of suspicion, by the way, on in terms of who was actually making the calls at the Fox News desk,
06:27:57.080
And so there's a lot of talk about how that person might allow their biases to to creep in.
06:28:01.120
And my favorite image of the night is ABC News talking about Wisconsin and said, well, you know, we have to talk about Kenosha.
06:28:10.260
They didn't mention anything happening in Kenosha.
06:28:12.320
Somehow Donald Trump is absolutely wiping the floor with Joe Biden in Kenosha, like just killing him in Kenosha,
06:28:21.420
Also, this is a big night for House Republicans.
06:28:23.320
Republicans are actually going to pick up seats in the House based on the latest stats.
06:28:26.680
The AP is called, which was Republicans winning Texas 22nd.
06:28:29.580
That was the Democrats thought they were going to flip.
06:28:31.440
And Ashley Hinson is going to defeat a sitting, sitting Democratic Congresswoman named Abby Finkenauer in Iowa.
06:28:40.160
So Republicans are poised to pick up somewhere between five and 10 seats in the selection in the House.
06:28:51.860
So it's hard to see where exactly this is picking up, where this ends up.
06:28:58.580
But it's going to go for the next couple of days.
06:29:04.700
So we're joined now by Daily Wire editor-in-chief John Bickley, who's been down in the Daily Wire war room.
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There's a weird thing going on with the New York Times, this sudden shift, a dramatic shift in the chances for Trump with no – I think there's like 1% more reporting or something like that.
06:29:51.760
Arizona's been called by most folks at this point.
06:29:59.080
How many days from now are we going to learn what happens with Pennsylvania?
06:30:09.060
Well, I mean, their attorney general actually said no matter what, he can't win.
06:30:13.100
He also gave out the Democratic phone number to people who were confused about how to vote.
06:30:30.660
The Senate looks a little bit better than we thought.
06:30:50.400
There's some things that are positive developments.
06:30:52.420
I think this idea of another major blow to the pollsters is big.
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If you look at some of those polls, you look at the average.
06:31:26.540
But then you look at specific polls and it's off by –
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How do you just stay a credible pollster after this?
06:31:39.540
Everyone associates them with the mainstream media.
06:31:43.340
When you have this very homogenous narrative that forms with the polling that works perfectly in favor of the media's narrative, it just – it blows your – any attempt to sort of have a sense of confidence.
06:31:59.060
Well, this was actually the argument that we had going in, Ben and Drew and I in particular earlier today, in which – I'm going to claim a little credit here.
06:32:07.240
My argument has been that the polling organizations actually favor their client, which is establishment media, more than they favor accuracy.
06:32:17.360
In other words, you might say, well, they have a – they need to get it right or no one will use them.
06:32:21.260
But I liken it to Hollywood producers making anti-Iraq war movies in the early 2000s that, no, by signaling your virtue and reinforcing the narrative that we want reinforced, we will continue hiring you because you're saying what we want to hear.
06:32:34.120
The fact that it is the mainstream – I keep using – they're not mainstream – the establishment of legacy media that actually writes the checks for these polls must have some effect, especially when you see them as wrong as they are tonight.
06:32:48.240
But the problem with that theory is that places like the Wall Street Journal, which skews left in their news coverage, but just a little left, does have a big investment in being reliable.
06:32:59.400
They have a big investment in coming across as –
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I think that – I used to think that was true.
06:33:05.920
I think that what's going on right now is that polling in the age of Trump particularly, as we see realignment, is an incredibly difficult business and basically is reading chicken on trails.
06:33:15.700
The coalitions were very steady in 2000, 2004, 2008.
06:33:25.840
But Trump really shook up the map in a major way, and they've never been able to grasp exactly how the map was shaken up.
06:33:34.940
I mean, also, the technological shift is being wildly underrated here, which is that they are not allowed – you're not allowed by federal law to cold call people on their cell phone, right?
06:33:42.320
I mean, you're not really supposed to cold call people on their cell phone, I believe.
06:33:45.300
And you can be fined – I've been on campaigns that have been fined a lot of money for calling people on their cell phones, so they do shy away from it.
06:33:52.180
So what that means is that you are going to tend to oversample elderly people who have – I mean, I don't even have a landline, right?
06:33:58.640
And a lot of people don't have a landline anymore, so it makes it very, very difficult to poll.
06:34:06.620
That's why people have been looking at sort of the average of the polls.
06:34:09.140
But what was Trump's final margin of victory in Florida?
06:34:16.220
So the RCP average had Biden up 0.9, so they were off by about 3.4 points in the final average, which is a lot in an average of averages.
06:34:30.840
They were the only group to have it right, basically.
06:34:33.320
And this is the problem with – I love the RCP site because of their great editorial collections and their videos and all this.
06:34:40.200
But the fact – the idea of an average of polls is kind of ridiculous because some of these polls are way wrong.
06:34:47.760
Well, the RCP is better than 538, so 538 didn't even include Trafalgar.
06:34:54.320
They said that this is a partisan poll, so we're not going to include it.
06:34:57.140
But some of these polls that are included are Quinnipiac, and Quinnipiac is basically wrong about everything.
06:35:03.120
This is my entire argument about the polling organizations and the media.
06:35:06.060
I don't think that they any longer have to worry about their reputation for accuracy.
06:35:10.900
I don't think the Wall Street Journal newsroom cares.
06:35:13.200
I don't think that they – I think they have realized since Obama – Obama broke the media.
06:35:18.560
Since Obama, they are no longer held to any standard except the standard of speaking the narrative, except the standard – I think that before Barack Obama, a reporter could be very biased.
06:35:32.440
The media could lean 70-30 left because of the intrinsic biases, the fact that it draws a certain group of people.
06:35:39.400
Nevertheless, if you were an individual journalist, even a journalist of the left, you by and large believed as foundational ethics that you had to speak truth and in particular speak truth to power.
06:35:49.580
Then Barack Obama came along, and by the unique virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of America's history of slavery, Jim Crow, and racism, that actually made him a figure that could not be criticized by media.
06:36:08.220
Also, because he's more of a religious aspirational figure, they didn't want to criticize him.
06:36:12.860
And what Barack Obama said to the media is, no longer is your foundational ethics speaking truth to power.
06:36:18.880
Your foundational ethic is helping to fundamentally transform the world into a better place.
06:36:25.120
Yes, comedy by virtue of the people it attracts and their biases, always 70-30 left.
06:36:29.760
And yet, Jay Leno couldn't have faced himself in the 90s if he hadn't made Monica Lewinsky jokes.
06:36:34.820
Saturday Night Live, they couldn't have called themselves comedians if they didn't make Monica Lewinsky jokes.
06:36:42.320
By virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of American slavery, I know I'm right about this because the head writer for SNL said he's like a large wall of obsidian.
06:36:57.000
In other words, because he's perfect and black, there is nothing funny about him.
06:37:01.360
And no longer was the job of a comedian to shine light on truth through comedy.
06:37:10.500
In other words, Barack Obama uniquely, same with academia, same with many of these institutions, he changed the foundational ethic of them.
06:37:16.860
And the foundational ethic of a journalist in America today, the foundational ethic of a pollster in America today, is not to speak truth.
06:37:26.880
And as long as they speak the narrative, they don't have to worry about people thinking that they don't have credibility.
06:37:32.560
You know, I agree with like 95% of what you just said.
06:37:36.240
What I don't agree with is, first of all, the sweep of it.
06:37:38.600
I don't think that, for instance, at the Wall Street Journal, I do think there are still people who are interested in telling some version of the truth, even though they...
06:37:46.820
But no, no, but I mean people in authority, which is...
06:37:55.880
The New York Times has absolutely no interest in telling the truth.
06:38:00.880
They chase Barry White out for speaking different opinions.
06:38:04.400
That doesn't really happen at the Wall Street Journal.
06:38:06.560
The last time it happened was Brett Stevens, who left because he was too far against Trump.
06:38:12.980
Although Brett Stevens is on the editorial side.
06:38:19.920
I mean, look, I can read the Wall Street Journal news side and discern the truth, which I can't do on the New York Times.
06:38:26.360
When I read the New York Times, I know what the New York Times is selling me, but I don't know what the narrative is.
06:38:32.120
Even CBS has a certain level of commitment to the news that hasn't been entirely corrupted, even though everything you just said is a narrative is true.
06:38:41.820
So, you know, there are individuals in unique places.
06:38:44.800
I think in terms of these pollsters, if they get things wrong, we stop listening to them.
06:38:52.540
I mean, I can't tell you how many calls I took on the show from people basically saying, can you tell me why I should listen to polls?
06:38:57.600
And you're saying, because I can't tell you not to listen to polls.
06:39:00.040
I mean, like, really, like, my answer is I don't believe all the polls, but I can't, like, completely disbelieve the polls.
06:39:06.140
I mean, now I'm operating specifically in the absence of evidence, which I refuse to do.
06:39:10.880
I mean, I'm going to say I doubt them because I do, but I can't say they mean nothing.
06:39:14.320
No, but the way you talk about the polls now is so much different than the way you talked about them four years ago.
06:39:19.420
Well, four years ago, they weren't off that much.
06:39:24.020
With 2012, there was a systemic polling error in favor of Mitt Romney.
06:39:32.160
So by 2016, people were like, okay, they kind of know what they're doing.
06:39:35.680
And then the bottom fell out on Hillary, and Trump is such an off-the-wall character that they had no way to poll that.
06:39:41.280
And so this time around, it's like they might still not know what they're doing.
06:39:44.040
By the way, it turns out that that was a myth that Fox uncalled Arizona.
06:39:47.500
They've recalled Arizona, or they never uncalled Arizona.
06:39:49.780
That was a Twitter thing that was going around, apparently.
06:39:52.040
And they've doubled down on the idea that Arizona is in Biden's category.
06:39:55.660
I have friends who are with the president in the White House right now saying there's a lot of confusion, even in the administration right now, about what's actually happening in some of these races.
06:40:05.180
I mean, Wisconsin apparently is trending toward Biden, which is what we would expect.
06:40:12.440
It looks as though Fox News decision desk is on the verge of calling Georgia in favor of Trump, even though the New York Times needle is wobbling a bit,
06:40:20.080
which means that we are where we were about 45 minutes ago, waiting on Pennsylvania or waiting on Michigan.
06:40:25.380
And we're going to be waiting a while because they've announced that none of those results are coming in, and it's going to be quite a while.
06:40:31.380
So it all comes down, as we suspected, to probably – well, now Pennsylvania and Michigan.
06:40:37.840
It's going to be – apparently in the next few minutes we are going to start getting some results from Nevada.
06:40:42.020
Now, the reason that's important is because Trump lost Arizona.
06:40:44.960
So if Trump lost Arizona, Trump needs to win Nevada.
06:40:47.360
If he wins Nevada, then he's back on track, right?
06:40:49.720
If he wins Nevada and the results from Nevada are shockingly good, which could happen, right?
06:40:53.220
One of the outstanding theories about Nevada was that the early voting and focus on mail-in voting would really hurt Democrats in a serious way
06:40:59.260
because their voter turnout efforts in Nevada are specifically geared at the restaurants and the workers and the unionized workers in the casinos.
06:41:07.760
And none of the casinos have a lot of unionized workers working right now because of COVID.
06:41:11.260
So that means that all those people are at home, and getting them from home to the polls is a different thing than putting them on a bus at the MGM Grand
06:41:17.960
and passing them to the polls as part of their union to go vote as a bloc en masse.
06:41:22.600
So it will be interesting to see if Trump does have any durability in Nevada.
06:41:26.540
If he were to pick up Nevada, that makes up for Arizona.
06:41:28.680
Then all he has to do is win Pennsylvania and Nevada, and he still wins the election.
06:41:34.040
Joe Biden is about to take the stage in Delaware to give remarks.
06:41:37.500
Let's go to Vice President Joe Biden and hear what he has to say on this strange and unsettled evening.
06:41:49.920
So where Joe Biden is about to come out, and to me it's reminiscent of what we saw in the primaries, you know,
06:41:59.060
when states were not being called, like Iowa, right?
06:42:02.020
And then we started to see people coming up on stage and giving sort of quasi-acceptance speeches that weren't acceptance speeches,
06:42:08.820
but we feel really good about what happened tonight.
06:42:11.280
And I think that that is – that's the pattern.
06:42:14.640
Yeah, but there was a difference because then you were in Iowa and you were building towards New Hampshire.
06:42:22.640
I think he's really doing it just so psychologically, if they end up in challenges, he thinks he looks stronger.
06:42:30.360
Here's the former Vice President Joe Biden with Dr. Joe Biden.
06:42:46.080
We knew this was going to go long, but who knew we were going to go into maybe tomorrow morning, maybe even longer.
06:43:03.020
I'm here to tell you tonight, we believe we're on track to win this election.
06:43:07.380
We knew because of the unprecedented early vote and the mail-in vote that it's going to take a while.
06:43:19.540
We're going to have to be patient until we – the hard work of tally-in votes is finished.
06:43:39.760
We believe one of the nets has suggested we've already won Arizona, but we're confident about Arizona.
06:43:51.260
And we're still in the game in Georgia, although that's not one we expected.
06:43:58.340
And we're feeling real good about Wisconsin and Michigan.
06:44:01.700
And by the way, it's going to take time to count the votes.
06:44:14.980
I'm going to talk to the folks in Philly, Allegheny County, Scranton, and they're really encouraged by the turnout and what they see.
06:44:21.720
Look, you know, we could know the results as early as tomorrow morning, but it may take a little longer.
06:44:28.640
As I've said all along, it's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare who's won this election.
06:44:41.520
And I want to thank every one of you who came out and voted in this election.
06:44:46.060
And by the way, Chris Coons and the Democrats, congratulations here in Delaware.
06:44:49.640
Hey, John, the Gov, yeah, the whole team, man, you've done a great job.
06:45:00.440
I'm grateful to the poll workers, to our volunteers, our canvassers, everyone who participated in this democratic process.
06:45:08.160
And I'm grateful to all my supporters here in Delaware and all across the nation.
06:45:18.860
Every time I walk out of my grandpa's house up in Scranton, he'd yell, Joey, keep the faith.
06:45:24.620
And my grandmama, when she was live, he yelled, no, Joey, spread it.
06:45:40.920
Former Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill Biden.
06:45:48.680
So they're going to go call it on the night and go back to sleep.
06:45:54.280
I'm sure we're going to hear something from President Trump based on this because it's going to go into the morning hours.
06:46:02.980
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06:49:32.860
So right now on Twitter, President Trump is responding.
06:49:36.500
We just saw Vice President Biden give a speech.
06:49:40.300
And now President Trump is saying he will be making a statement tonight, and then he said a big win.
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He also said, we are up big, but they're trying to steal the election.
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Now let's pass it over to Alicia, who's going to give an update on the numbers.
06:50:02.840
So we saw how President Trump just reacted to what Joe Biden was saying there.
06:50:07.180
A lot of us in the war room, a lot of people that have been in politics for a long time said that his language was setting up the, we're not finished tonight, we're not giving up tonight.
06:50:17.520
His rhetoric of every vote must be counted makes it seem like the update that Cabot had earlier from officials in those states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, is also how the Biden campaign is kind of pivoting and making, that's their rhetoric too.
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Like, he's completely setting the stage for what is to be expected now, which is going to be, this is going to be dragged out for a few days.
06:50:39.560
They are going to be scraping the barrel for every single vote they can find in all likelihood, as both sides would.
06:50:48.300
You saw in his language, he wasn't really claiming victory.
06:50:52.540
He's setting the stage for patient Democrats because time is good for them.
06:50:57.040
And I think that's going to frustrate Trump, head to the tweet.
06:51:00.640
And so, also, we're seeing a lot of data, guys, just so you know, you've referenced it a little bit.
06:51:05.240
But as you guys have been having some conversations over there, some really interesting conversations, by the way, we've been seeing that projections have been changing and shifting.
06:51:13.700
And now states that were trending toward Trump-Pence, like Georgia and North Carolina, aren't the sure things that a lot of people were projecting they might be.
06:51:23.920
Yeah, I think the issue is it's just been so inconsistent.
06:51:26.020
So, I have some notes here, like, Arizona, Trump 2020 senior advisor Jason Miller said that it's way too soon to be calling Arizona.
06:51:32.880
Then there were rumors that Fox News retracted it.
06:51:35.240
They haven't, but other places haven't called Arizona.
06:51:37.400
Then there's Georgia, which, out of nowhere, suddenly started tilting Biden 67 percent, according to the New York Times.
06:51:43.520
And for us, that seemed to come out of nowhere.
06:51:47.340
Then Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all saying they're going to be waiting to count votes.
06:51:51.920
And those, as we spoke before, they're the key states.
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So, for an answer, we're just going to have to wait.
06:51:57.740
And thank you to the audience and the members that are here with us because we wouldn't be able to be here.
06:52:03.640
Oh, and we're still here for you guys if it weren't for you.
06:52:11.900
People want to know, on several occasions, Ben, you have talked about Trump's win in 2016 being a reaction to their smear of Romney in 2012.
06:52:20.500
If Trump ends up winning tonight, which, as we just discussed, nobody's going home a winner tonight, what will the left's retaliation look like in 2024?
06:52:29.180
Well, I mean, in 2024, the one thing that you can bet on, for sure, is that the Democrats are going to claim that whoever comes after Trump, and this is regardless of whether he wins or loses, is worse than Trump.
06:52:40.240
So, if Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, it will be, well, at least Donald Trump wasn't a warmonger like Nikki Haley.
06:52:45.900
You know, Donald Trump was a racist, but at least he was clear about his racism.
06:52:51.060
And it'll be, Donald Trump was a racist, but he was an obvious racist.
06:52:54.080
Nikki Haley is much more subtle with her, you know, Indian background and not being a white person at all.
06:53:02.820
At least Donald Trump didn't try to masquerade as a man of the people.
06:53:07.400
He was a gilded, like, it'll all turn into this revisionist history, because this happens with every single Republican.
06:53:13.080
This is why you get the strange new respect for George W. Bush, who they all thought was Hitler, back in 2006.
06:53:20.020
If Donald Trump wins, they have the opportunity, the Democrats do, to sit with themselves for a little while and learn some lessons.
06:53:26.920
But they've shown themselves utterly unwilling to do that.
06:53:28.880
I mean, in 2016, they could have learned some lessons.
06:53:30.980
I said in 2016, all they had to do was not be crazy, and they literally could not do it.
06:53:34.600
They decided what would be a great idea is to riot in the streets and to talk about how, if you didn't vote for Joe Biden or celebrate rioting in the middle of COVID, that you are somehow a vicious racist and you ought to be fired from your job.
06:53:46.020
And a lot of people, you know, if it's not a silent majority for Trump, it's certainly a silent majority that rejects wokeism.
06:53:51.440
I think that that's pretty obvious, the woke mentality.
06:53:53.740
But I don't have a lot of faith in Democrats that they're not going to react to either a Trump victory or a narrow Biden victory with anything remotely approaching rationality,
06:54:00.600
because they haven't been rational about any of this at all, like in any way, shape or form.
06:54:14.760
We are going to get to more Daily Wire member questions as we go throughout the evening.
06:54:23.280
If Trump is able to somehow flip Nevada, then the loss of Arizona becomes less of a looming problem for him.
06:54:30.840
You heard Joe Biden say they weren't expecting Georgia, but they were more optimistic about Georgia.
06:54:34.400
Georgia is still a little bit up in the air, but likely to go for Trump.
06:54:37.980
At this point, if you had to ballpark this thing, you still say that Biden is probably a 60-40 favorite to be the president after all this is said and done,
06:54:44.220
just because the numbers don't seem to favor Trump heavily.
06:54:47.180
At this point, if he has to win Pennsylvania Plus, that puts him in not a wonderful position.
06:54:51.660
You want him to be not impossible, not impossible.
06:54:56.120
John James is outperforming the polls there, apparently, by a pretty wide margin.
06:54:59.980
So theoretically, you could have a shocker in Michigan or a shocker in Wisconsin.
06:55:03.940
He doesn't seem to be performing in Wisconsin quite as well as he is in Michigan.
06:55:07.260
There are a lot of folks in Michigan who are sort of saying this.
06:55:09.220
I was hearing in Michigan that the polls were just wrong in Michigan, not as much in Wisconsin.
06:55:15.520
President Trump, of course, tweeting out about we are up big, but they are trying to steal the election.
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But one of the two tweets that Cassie just brought us.
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But it does say some or all of the content shared in this tweet is disputed by us and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.
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You have to click through another link to see what it actually says.
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That's how much they don't want you to get any information that counters their narrative.
06:56:27.300
It doesn't even change – the voting is mostly over in every place that matters right now.
06:56:34.760
They're censoring him to show everybody else who thinks like them that they are virtuous, that they are noble, that they're on the side of what's right and what's good and what's holy.
06:56:42.260
I mean, this could be just an absolute bleep show, right?
06:56:48.080
This is why all votes should be on Election Day except for very rare exceptions.
06:56:53.700
Because the fact that this is now going to drag out probably for another two days, I would imagine at a minimum for another two days, it means that Trump voters are going to believe that Trump legit won the election and that it was stolen from him if Biden takes it.
06:57:05.760
And Biden voters are going to believe precisely the opposite if Trump takes it.
06:57:08.820
And if it gets appealed to the Supreme Court, we're going to get a bunch of talk about how Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and Gorsuch all have to recuse themselves because they're Trump appointees.
06:57:16.000
By the way, if you mess all the way through, think about what the president just said, for which Twitter has has penalized him.
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And then think about what Joe Biden actually just said on the stage during his remarks, where he said, we're going to win Pennsylvania.
06:57:29.900
I mean, he has it on good authority from the attorney general.
06:57:32.620
I mean, he made very declarative statements, but there's no censorship when you're on the left.
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No, because there's no virtue in showing censorship to the left.
06:57:41.580
Right. Well, absolutely. And Twitter is an absolute Democrat project, a leftist project.
06:57:47.580
I wouldn't even say Democrat. They're a leftist.
06:57:49.440
True leftist. I want to go back to Alicia and get a few more questions from our Daily Wire members.
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Promo code election gets you 25 percent off. Alicia.
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People really want to know. And Ben just said there, you know, is it going to be a couple more days?
06:58:06.440
But Knowles, what do you think is a realistic timeline for when we have an election result?
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As we know from the war room, we apparently have until December 6th.
06:58:17.260
A little nervous to say it will go on that long.
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I mean, there have been people who joke that it'll go on until January, February or March.
06:58:25.420
I don't think that's the case. There's just too much pressure on it.
06:58:28.480
So it looks like it's going to come down to Pennsylvania.
06:58:32.000
We already know because the attorney general told us that it's over for Biden several days ago.
06:58:35.620
So that's fine. Actually, that tweet, though, will be grounds for some of the lawsuits that are guaranteed to go on there.
06:58:44.260
You had the Biden campaign, by the way, bragging months ago that they had hired 600 lawyers to battle out and try to win this election in the courts.
06:58:55.920
The best lawyers. You'll never see lawyers like this, folks.
06:59:01.720
And who knows? I mean, it could work all the way up to the courts.
06:59:04.200
And as Ben said, you'll get arguments about how any judge who ever met a Republican has got to recuse themselves.
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But I don't think it's going to go on for two months or three months.
06:59:12.100
As we mentioned earlier, Antonin Scalia said what was so humiliating about Bush v. Gore.
06:59:16.840
He had the greatest democracy in the world that couldn't resolve its own election.
06:59:21.680
Here, you know, we're not going to Bush v. Gore times three or times four or times five.
06:59:25.660
So if it does become a matter of Pennsylvania, I suspect that they'll be able to resolve it relatively quickly.
06:59:33.200
But there's a huge world in which we don't know tomorrow and maybe we don't even know Friday.
06:59:39.380
Is voter turnout so high this election cycle because of mail-in popularity with voters?
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Or do you think it's the highly charged nature of where the country sits right now politically?
06:59:51.700
Trump is a divisive figure, but he's also a figure that inspires passion.
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I don't think anybody, I seriously don't think anybody went to the polls because they thought that Joe Biden was their dream guy.
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I think that people went to the polls to vote against Trump or for Trump.
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He is a guy like Napoleon that basically sets the tenor of the time.
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Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, it doesn't matter.
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It is an actual fact that this is a guy who has occupied and colonized our imaginations and people went to the polls as a referendum on Donald Trump.
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And a lot of them went to the polls because Donald Trump is such a powerful figure.
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You know, he is a genuine historical guy at this point.
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I think it's worth noting, which is that if there were no such thing as early voting, Trump would have won this election.
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Because the surge in the last two weeks of the election, based on the polling data, suggests that Trump really closed the gap in a major way in a lot of these swing states.
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But so many votes came in early that people had already voted.
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And so that last debate didn't make all that much difference.
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I think people should go to the polls on a day to vote and go.
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It's supposed to not be supremely easy to vote.
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You're supposed to have to want to exercise that responsibility.
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If you make it too easy for everyone, then it really becomes a popularity contest.
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It becomes a faddish, you know, whoever's the most faddish candidate will win.
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And why shouldn't you be able to target a date that you're playing toward?
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Why shouldn't you be able to say, I'm going to...
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And it is fundamentally wrong to vote before the election is over.
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It presumes that you know things that you may or may not actually know, which is why one
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of the most popular search trends after the second debate was, can I change my vote?
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After the second debate, how do I change my vote?
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Even if you believe that one day, that we should have a voting week or that we should
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And already 40, 50, 60, 70 million votes had been cast.
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But listen, we have swapped out Daily Wire editor-in-chief, John Bickley, for another
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tall, handsome dude who's also a PhD, who's also intelligent and also has a deep voice.
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And in the pandemic season, I just decided to rebel by growing a square beard.
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Spencer, you put out a video with the Daily Wire this week about how what's really happening
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I was sort of inspired at a breakfast that I had with you.
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And I've expounded on it and thought about it in my own way.
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But I wonder if you could give us just a little bit of that here.
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One is it's not an election about which way we're going to take the country.
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It's an election about whether the country is good or evil.
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And that's, you know, this is this is the meaning of the phrase systemic racism.
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No matter how much you protest that you're a moderate, that Joe Biden is the one who's
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If what you're telling people is that fundamentally in its systems, in its structure, your country
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People are going to start rioting and tearing statues down.
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There's just there's no logical conclusion other than that.
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So when you say, as Joe Biden has said, that there is systemic racism, that you have
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a plan to root it out, it doesn't matter how you present yourself.
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It doesn't matter what else you say to the contrary or whether you just pretend you're
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You're actually staging and abetting a revolution.
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Second thing is that it's not a popular revolution, right?
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It's all the stuff that they claim about, you know, oh, these poor, marginalized, whatever,
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black latinx, whatever black people that are rising up.
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This is an elite Ph.D. driven, CEO funded, right?
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Jack Dorsey's funneling tens of millions of dollars into people like Ibram XCandy, university
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professors that are overthrowing our republic in the name of their own corrupt oligarchy.
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And the whole idea that this is this kind of uprising from from the ground up is a classic
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It's this you take all this popular unrest, which exists because you generated it by locking
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people inside their homes for however many months and making sure they had to wear masks
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and conceal their identities, dehumanize one another and drilling into their heads over
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and over and over again that your countrymen are racist, your countrymen hate you for whatever
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And then you just tell them and now you have to riot.
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It's just it's amazing how they use that playbook.
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So so the term racism now is just a synonym for evil, right?
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You have to be actively good or anti-racist and this idea that when when blacks or Hispanics
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don't vote the way that they're supposed to, that they're exhibiting a false consciousness.
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Today, Nicole Hannah-Jones, one of the foremost ringleaders of this entire thing, right?
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The architect of the New York Times 1619 project tweeted the day after this election
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I can you cannot make this up the day after this election is over.
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However, I'm going to write a little article about how the term Latino is made up because
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it lumps white Cubans in with oh, my gosh, those white Cubans, right?
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It lumps them in with all the actual brown and black, the real true black.
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It's like, you know, after this election, traitors will be stripped of their preferred
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Well, you know, and it's like you couldn't ask them to state it more outright.
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We refuse to believe that we just imagine that they're trying to kind of, you know, oh, you
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Just as an election update, it looks like California is set to vote down that idiotic
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ballot initiative, getting rid of the getting rid of the anti-racial preferences.
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It looks it looks like Republican that the California public will vote that down.
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It also looks like the proposition that was set to get rid of Uber and Lyft in the
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So it looks like they're going to Uber went all in.
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You couldn't get a car in the last three months without being told how to vote on.
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It shows you what would happen if you were to take all of the apparatus that they've been
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Every time you open Instagram, every time you tweet anything, if you just took that apparatus
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So these business people, they get incensed about the fact that they're going to like five
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And suddenly you can't get an Uber without getting reminded about this.
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Why don't we do it more because they control so many of the levers of influence and the
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ones, even the ones where we get a foothold, they try to actually strip us up.
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You know, I want to pick back up on the revolution thing for one minute because there's an aspect
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of it that I've been hitting on that I think it goes right along with what you're saying,
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And that's that historically we voted for policy preferences.
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And listen, policy preferences can have extraordinary consequences.
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I don't want to see abortion, which I believe is the taking of a human life.
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But it is still fundamentally an issue of policy.
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You think that's better for equity where this is a policy disagreement.
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They're running on the idea of changing the structure of the government itself.
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They're essentially saying the Electoral College, fundamentally unfair.
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They're saying the Supreme Court, as currently constituted, fundamentally unfair.
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They're saying some of this isn't constitutional changes.
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The filibuster, which protects minority rights, has gotten in our way.
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Once we've gotten rid of it, the 50-state structure that's held for the last half century or more in this country
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doesn't favor us in terms of senatorial representation or votes for the presidency.
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So we're going to alter it by simple majority and add states.
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They're saying that the First Amendment should be mitigated.
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They're saying that equal justice is, as Eric Weinstein said when he was here, somehow a sign of white supremacy.
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The 14th Amendment is a sign of white supremacy.
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What they're saying is they want to have an election that's post-policy, where if we vote for them,
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policy will actually never be on the docket again because you won't be allowed to talk.
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You won't have any protection from capricious overreach by the government.
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You won't have any representation, meaningful representation in the Senate.
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And the Supreme Court will exist to validate anything that they try to cram down your throats.
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In that world, it's foolish to talk about abortion.
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It's foolish to talk about any of our Green New Deal, even as sweeping as that is, becomes foolish
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because all policy disagreement goes out the door when you reframe a country.
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As we said earlier, as you said, they're trying to reframe America.
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Yeah, we're voting on the context within which we're going to have these conversations.
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We're not voting on one side of the conversation over another.
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Do you guys remember when those football kids, those high school football players got suspended
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And what the superintendent said, I think it was the superintendent, it was whoever suspended them,
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said, you know, we didn't want them to be making a political statement, right?
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When we say the word political, what we typically mean is, I mean, what we should mean is the
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But what we typically mean is the things that we're fighting over right now and the things
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That's the stuff that you can say and be considered apolitical.
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And the reason it's compulsory is because it's not political.
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They want their their way of life to be the background of what it sort of it sort of has
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They have to be so right that we're evil and can't speak because their policies don't work.
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When you look at San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities I lived there many thousands
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of years ago, it was one of the most beautiful cities in the country.
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And yet and yet, if you say, hey, something's wrong here, there's something evil about you.
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And it has to be that way because otherwise you are just faced with the policies and the
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You know, this is a conversation we've had for a long time, which is I think we often
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get the conversations over free speech or censorship or political correctness.
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We get it wrong because we're just fighting narrowly over the banned tweet or the word you're
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not allowed to say when really what the battle is about is the way in which we view the world,
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And what the left has done is overturned all of the old standards and replace them with
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the new ones such that if what is the meaning of the black square, the meaning of the black
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There is an epidemic of racist cops slaughtering innocent black men.
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As LeBron James says, black men can't walk out their doors without being hunted down.
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That is the explicit meaning of that black square.
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And if you don't believe that you will be ostracized.
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Do you guys did you guys have any of these conversations that I have had in the last couple
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weeks leading up to the election where you said, you know, I think these polls are catastrophically
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And because they're off because they're their first level premises.
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And not only do people say, well, I think you're wrong, but they reacted with indignation,
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with deep appalled, this sort of sense of offense, because you've threatened not just their
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idea about what's going to happen, but their entire ethos of how political life is done.
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And if if you believe, as they do, the people that I'm having these conversations with believe
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that democracy is effectively obsolete because the like mechanism, the algebraic mechanism of
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the input that you're going to feed in and the output you're going to get has been 100 percent
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calculated like atoms bouncing off of one another the same way they believe that the whole world
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They also believe that that's what democracy is and how it can be best optimized.
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And when you tell them that you think that they've just, you know, seen the world wrong,
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they respond with the kind of moral just shock that you that they would also respond with
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It's all part of one attitude is the attitude that you're outside.
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Although I will say that I think that there is a bit of a difference between the two attitudes.
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So the attitude about polling, I think, comes from it just goes to show that logic
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On the one hand, if you say, show me the evidence of systemic racism, because that's a very
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Then they get very offended that you're asking to see evidence.
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If you say, I think the polls are wrong, then they will say, well, evidence matters.
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I mean, haven't you seen the data in the polls?
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And so it's almost whatever is useful, whatever brick is at hand is what they are used to using.
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I get the discomfort with people saying, I don't believe the polls because like, OK, well,
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It's either they're correctly modeled or they're not correctly modeled.
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What I don't get is the wild ire at anybody who says that we should take the polls with a
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Because the polls themselves are supposed to be taken with a grain of salt.
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There is a thing called margin of error in the poll.
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They're predicting the future, which we actually don't have the science to do.
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There is no science to predict irregular events in the future.
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And so it's the same thing with climate change.
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It's a reasonable guess, you know, but it may be wrong.
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And every time the whole thing about science is you compare your guesses to reality.
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And when reality contradicts them, you change your guess.
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And the fact that you could actually object to their guesses tells you that the guess is
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So I'll tell you what it's like in the evangelical world every six years, eight years.
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Someone comes along and says that the end of days is going to happen.
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And they do this because the Bible explicitly says no one knows the date except this one chump
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who's going to show up in 2020 and build you for 10 million.
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So the Christians fall for this time and time and time again.
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And I remember being at the South Plains Fair in Lubbock, Texas, when I was 10, 8, 9, 10
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And I saw this painting of the tribulation, you know, and it was supposed to happen that
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You know, they they had all the signs and wonders.
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And, you know, if you read the Bible backwards in Latin and convert it into digits and put it
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on a metric clock and they they really pin it down.
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And people get swept up in it, people I know, people I love, people who are intelligent,
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successful in business, people with good families get swept up in it.
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Some people I know have been swept up in not every one of them, but multiple of them across
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the course of the 41 years that I've been on the planet.
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And when you try to talk to them about it, even just to say, like, well, what makes this
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one different than the one in 1988 that I remember you were also, you know, committed
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to, they show that same level of indignation and it's a religious indignation, which is
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You are you are now challenging their religious belief about what is going to happen.
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And the reason that I've always said, you know, I have this little home church and I've
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been doing it for, I don't know, 18 years or some some version like that.
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I always say, if I ever wanted to explode the numbers, I would teach about revelation
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and the end of days, because everyone wants to know what's going to happen.
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Everyone wants not only the security of knowing, but they want the special knowledge.
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They want to be the ones that God chose to reveal special knowledge to.
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And they if they like you, they want to tell you.
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And if they really hate you, they might also want to tell you.
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But if they're indifferent to you, maybe they don't want you to know because then they
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They want that special secret blessing of knowing the future.
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And I'm always reminded that all of the people who in the Bible claim to know the future are
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And it's not that they don't know the prophecy.
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It's that they don't know the purpose of prophecy, that biblical prophecy isn't so that
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it's not God telling you the future so that you will know what's going to happen.
07:16:35.540
It's God telling you the future so that when the future arrives, you will know that he was
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God, you can tell the truth so that you can tell the truth.
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God isn't God doesn't give us the future because if you had the future, there'd be no need for
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Now, that's a sort of religious way of thinking about it.
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But in much more practical terms, maybe for our purposes, you're not smart enough to know
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Nothing that you're ever going to learn is going to tell you the future, because if you knew
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the future, you would be more than human and you are not more than human.
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When you object to it, you're actually they feel that you're objecting to the underlying belief.
07:17:09.520
And that's the thing you see when you say, yeah, polls.
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What you're really saying to them is you don't have any special virtue.
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And their whole claim to authority is based on those special powers is based on.
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And these the people who have claimed to those special powers in my entire lifetime have thoroughly
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All the predictive powers, all their special insight, all their fancy credentials all turned out
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And the whole all their all their five year plans, all their end of histories, all of
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And this is I mean, so there is something I will concede, right, agonizing about not
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knowing what's going to happen five minutes from now, except that it's the entire human
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I was sitting backstage with you guys had Dave Rubin on sitting backstage with him.
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We were watching this, this whole thing unfold.
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We're both sort of thinking, like, this is the funnest country in the world.
07:18:02.800
Like, I can't believe Biden was up like 15 points.
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And now every every state is like this toss up.
07:18:08.220
And there is I mean, it's it's it's nail biting.
07:18:10.600
But it's super fun if you believe that God is in charge.
07:18:14.900
So the thing that makes it fun is if you actually have some, you know, overarching faith that
07:18:24.160
If you don't, if you just think it's Adam's bouncing off of one another, of course, all
07:18:28.720
This is you said something very intelligent the other day, which shocked me.
07:18:33.920
I obviously know I you said something very intelligent on this point of of basically breaking out
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of the system that that does not have this predictive power and that is totally corrupted.
07:18:44.960
And it's but it's we hear it with the woke, but it's happening a little bit on the right
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to even in the language that we use to describe this.
07:18:52.520
I think that when people you notice on the left and the right, this language of getting woke
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or getting red pilled, right, getting red pilled is waking up out of the matrix.
07:19:03.220
And both of them just mean I was living in a simulation.
07:19:06.260
We talk also about the simulation and the simulation is there are these two flavors of
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One flavor is called Republican and one flavor is called Democrat.
07:19:15.640
And I basically feel like both of them have been offering me the same thing.
07:19:19.440
Conservatives feel like both of them have been offering me this this kind of, you know,
07:19:41.080
But so that's the thing that the basically, I think, a lot of the really hardcore right
07:19:46.680
wingers think that both Republicans and Democrats were offering that.
07:19:49.600
And a lot of the Bernie bros feel like both Republicans and Democrats were offering this
07:19:53.840
kind of neoliberalism that just benefits the upper class, ultimately.
07:19:57.660
And, you know, a lot of it has to do with immigration, but it has to do with, you know,
07:20:01.420
And so this whole idea that you're, you know, you're trying basically to get something that
07:20:07.140
My shtick now is, like, the only actual thing that does that, because all the other stuff
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that people are offering is basically just atavism.
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Let's, like, lift weights a bunch and be super buff or whatever.
07:20:18.540
Like, the only thing that actually does this is to genuinely do and say what the American
07:20:24.780
So, like, for example, freedom of association, a radical thing.
07:20:28.400
Like, if my employer could actually fire me for being gay, like the Constitution says he
07:20:35.060
Not that I think really anybody would do it at this point.
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But, like, that is the most insane, red-pilled, woke thing of anything.
07:20:44.820
We're all searching for something that breaks out of that scripted system.
07:20:48.720
I think an important piece of this, and we talk about it sometimes on our backstage show,
07:20:52.540
and it's probably worth saying here now as this night begins to wane and as it becomes
07:20:57.780
more and more clear that we're almost certainly not going to know tonight who is the president.
07:21:03.400
Millions of Americans are going to go to bed tonight in a kind of distress because, obviously,
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the stakes truly are quite high in this election.
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They're probably uniquely high in this particular election because we've been worked into a frenzy
07:21:22.540
And really, I would say over the last 12 years, because the Obama years were so inciting
07:21:29.300
to Republicans because we were being told you have no future.
07:21:35.740
This is the end of history, as they always believe that it's the end of history when they win.
07:21:39.440
Even on the right, we're saying if Joe Biden wins, it's the end of America as we know it.
07:21:43.620
If the left ascends, it's the end of America as we know it.
07:21:48.980
I mean, and we don't know when will we know you could go to bed tonight and miss it and
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wake up in the morning and somebody is the president.
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Or you could wake up tomorrow and we're still a week away from now.
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That while the stakes are high, the stakes are not ultimate.
07:22:05.980
That who you are, ultimately, your ultimate future is not held by the government.
07:22:19.760
You know, that's one of the first you haven't even scratched the surface of wisdom until
07:22:26.800
Even when we say things like America will be over if Joe Biden is president, we're assuming
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that we know a bunch of things that we don't know.
07:22:35.140
We had a governor named Jerry Brown, and he was a radical leftist governor.
07:22:40.180
And then he goes away for a generation, and he comes back 180 years later, and he's our
07:22:48.220
Only the second time that he's governor, the Democrats in this state have become so radical
07:22:55.300
And while he still does many things that I dislike, there are real consequences of his
07:23:00.020
He actually serves as a kind of bulwark against the radical left because he simply won't sign
07:23:04.200
It's possible that Joe Biden will actually be will actually prevent the radical left from
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being able to get the kinds of victories that they might otherwise get.
07:23:13.400
It's possible that Joe Biden wins the presidency and because of his age and health, never even
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serves one day as president or he serves a year or two years or three years and isn't able
07:23:26.740
Not only would we get the just unbelievable joy of knowing that the first woman president
07:23:33.880
wasn't elected, which would just be like the funniest thing that's ever happened, but as
07:23:39.160
our friend Jonathan Hay has observed, we would be ascending someone so unpopular, even among
07:23:44.860
Democrats, that she could not win a single vote in the primaries and had to drop out, not
07:23:51.300
And then a Republican could attend to get him in for you.
07:23:54.120
The thing that occurred to me this morning is every time somebody says this is the most
07:23:58.220
important election of our lifetime, he's actually making a prediction.
07:24:01.820
He's actually talking about something he doesn't know because it may be a completely irrelevant
07:24:05.460
election because we don't know what's going to actually happen.
07:24:08.940
So again, that comes down to the arrogance of control, the feeling like, yes, OK, this election
07:24:13.100
matters so much because I'm involved with it right now.
07:24:15.540
And it's also such a meaningless statement because elections that happened in the past are by
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And the ones that have yet to come are by nature not happening right now.
07:24:22.500
It's like saying the most important moment of your life is this one and this one and this
07:24:27.520
Because it's literally the moment that you are in, right?
07:24:31.660
But I tweeted earlier today, you should vote and then you should go spend some much more
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And the truth is that the future of the country is going to matter a lot.
07:24:39.620
It's going to depend a lot less on how people voted tonight and how much time we spend
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on our kids is going to matter a whole hell of a lot more.
07:24:47.740
And the kind of institutional changes that we push for, which we've been talking about
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all night and pitching all night, that's going to make a lot more difference.
07:24:53.780
People have a habit in the United States of thinking that they get to sound off once every
07:24:56.880
four years and then just abdicate the rest of the time.
07:25:00.100
The left never sleeps, which is one of the reasons they've taken over so many institutions
07:25:05.780
You know, you voting is not the end of your civic responsibility.
07:25:07.920
It's the beginning of your civic responsibility.
07:25:12.080
The actual truth is your civic responsibility fundamentally is to think less about politics.
07:25:27.380
If you are on social media too much, turn it off.
07:25:31.160
If your neighbor has a need, help them meet it.
07:25:35.600
If you loan somebody money, don't expect them to repay you.
07:25:38.380
If they waste it and five years later they need more help and you can do it in good faith
07:25:42.460
without contributing to their problem, help them because they're real humans.
07:25:50.100
A citizen, his fundamental responsibility is to engage with his community and to be a good citizen.
07:25:55.580
I always ask leftists when they're telling me, oh, Donald Trump is the worst thing that ever.
07:26:07.980
Well, we go back to what we were talking about with Dennis about humanity.
07:26:14.620
Because if you're not suffering, then live your life and vote for your best life.
07:26:18.920
Because if everybody votes for his best life, we'll be fine.
07:26:22.980
It's so important that this includes if Donald Trump wins.
07:26:26.400
Because, like, in 2016, we voted Donald Trump in and we were like, oh, yes, now we have delivered this stinging rebuke to the sort of deep state and the woke system and all these things.
07:26:37.060
And all we have to do is just have Donald Trump be president.
07:26:40.740
And all the stuff that we said about put not your faith in princes leading up to the election, we just completely forgot.
07:26:45.700
You know, and in fact, all that happened is that, like, you know, the stony sleep was vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle.
07:26:51.080
Like, there was a beast, like, that rose up in the last six months, basically, that just reasserted itself.
07:26:57.440
We had no idea that we hadn't even begun to do the work.
07:26:59.880
If Trump wins, we've got to start doing the work.
07:27:03.720
And sometimes I see people who are in their 80s.
07:27:06.000
My grandfather, whom I love dearly, a true patriarch of my family, a real inspiration.
07:27:12.100
He eighth grade education starts a business in his 40s after making a very low workman's wage and raising seven kids.
07:27:19.560
He starts a business and builds it into a success very late in life.
07:27:25.240
And over the last few weeks, he's he's suffered some real health crises.
07:27:31.900
He battled Parkinson's and diabetes and covid-19 over the last few weeks.
07:27:39.780
Now, thank God he's home and seems to be well recovered from his his bout of covid.
07:27:45.420
I say all of this to say, as I watched him suffer over the last few weeks, it's been painful because I love him.
07:27:53.760
And I don't mean inspiration like because of how he's faced it.
07:27:56.200
No, he's he's very old and you don't actually face things heroically.
07:28:01.860
Death, old age, their humiliations by design, their humiliations.
07:28:05.640
The last thing that you will do as you leave this mortal coil is soil yourself in the moment that your spirit leaves your body.
07:28:12.800
You will defecate as just God's way of saying, yes, death is the ultimate humiliation.
07:28:22.400
So it's not that my grandfather's been this inspiration going through this.
07:28:25.600
It's it's that you get to watch and see, oh, God's not finished with you.
07:28:30.040
Even now, there are things you must suffer, suffer.
07:28:36.020
And even now, there are things that you can teach the rest of us, not not by your wisdom, but by your experience, by watching your experience.
07:28:42.340
Great, great. And that that is how we should approach every day as Americans is saying, yeah, the battle is never over because God's not going to give us a victory.
07:28:51.980
What he gives us is opportunity, opportunity again and again and again to be to learn, to grow, to try to fail, to get back up and try.
07:29:00.020
It's such a great point. I have seen several people die.
07:29:02.600
I've been with people in the moments of their death, in the moments before their death.
07:29:06.380
And the thing that always amazes me is that they're still them and that what they have to say by being them continues to be said.
07:29:13.680
And death means nothing. I mean, you know, when they say death, where's thy victory?
07:29:20.540
And I believe you remain who you are even after death.
07:29:23.180
But the fact that you are facing these things as yourself is everything you have to teach.
07:29:28.360
We are all you know, the left always says, well, you're performing masculinity.
07:29:31.500
And I think you bet I am. I want you to see what masculinity is doing it.
07:29:35.860
Yeah, I want you to see this flesh, this body, this failure, this miserable sinner.
07:29:43.560
I want you to see all the good things in me, in this lousy, broken person.
07:29:46.920
And that happens right up until the minute they cart you off.
07:29:49.340
And I think that Joe Biden has called a lid for tonight or for tomorrow.
07:30:01.500
Spencer, I want to say thank you to you for joining us.
07:30:03.980
If you're not listening to the young heretics, you're missing out and you don't know nothing.
07:30:07.600
I know, because every time I listen, I realize that I don't know.
07:30:12.860
A truly fabulous podcast. Great insight. Thanks for joining us tonight.
07:30:15.920
We're now going to go to the Daily Wire War Room, where Alicia has updates for us.
07:30:23.920
Hey, everyone. And I do have to say real quick, if President Trump, like he tweeted,
07:30:28.240
comes on and starts to talk to the American people,
07:30:30.760
we will totally cut away from our War Room coverage right now to carry that for you live.
07:30:38.420
Everybody wants to hear what he's going to say.
07:30:41.920
Another interesting tidbit, as our very own Ian Howarth talked about earlier,
07:30:46.300
there had been this this report that maybe Fox News had decided to retract that Arizona had gone to Biden.
07:30:55.020
But they are the only network out there in the mainstream media network out there that called Arizona early.
07:31:01.300
And we're going to talk to Cabot Phillips about what Fox News' own Katie Pavlich is saying about this.
07:31:06.400
Well, we can now report that Kanye West has won Arizona.
07:31:11.660
Just making sure all of you are still paying attention.
07:31:13.820
No, we actually have a tweet coming out from Katie Pavlich at Fox.
07:31:18.920
I just spoke to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's office.
07:31:21.760
There are at least 900,000 votes outstanding that haven't been counted.
07:31:27.220
With every update, they say it's breaking significantly toward Trump, two to one.
07:31:31.340
Does not mean a Trump win, but that's still a lot of uncounted votes.
07:31:35.860
That is something that Katie Pavlich from Fox says happened in her conversation with the governor's office.
07:31:40.340
So people upset about it being called early still could go to Biden.
07:31:44.760
But there are still a lot of votes out there from the data we're seeing.
07:31:48.200
And that could be one reason we haven't seen Arizona called by other outlets.
07:31:53.960
And we still have Arizona grayed out, guys, because, of course, as we know, Fox News is the only outlet that has called this.
07:31:59.460
And we just don't want to give it to anybody right now when you have a lot of other networks and a lot of other statisticians out there saying isn't 100 percent, especially because it was a it was a light red in 2016.
07:32:12.000
But President Trump and Mike Pence were able to take Phoenix, which is right in the center of the state, the metropolitan part of the state that tends to skew more to the left.
07:32:24.320
So we're going to walk to the map here, just go to the bigger states, Georgia here.
07:32:29.380
New York Times projections getting up into the mid 80 percent that he would win.
07:32:33.300
There was a huge voter turnout in DeKalb County, Fulton County as well around Atlanta that has gone heavily towards Biden.
07:32:39.320
The projections are now looking much better for Joe Biden in Georgia, North Carolina, much more of a toss up.
07:32:45.100
President Trump again jumped out to an early lead there.
07:32:47.560
Projections were into the 90th percentile from The New York Times that he would win.
07:32:51.700
The vote counts again have started to even out.
07:32:53.700
I think you call it a pretty clear 50 50 toss up in North Carolina.
07:32:57.360
Now, we spoke earlier about how Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, we might be waiting for a little bit.
07:33:02.240
Their state officials reportedly telling Bloomberg News that, hey, some of our states and Michigan specifically, you might have to wait till Friday.
07:33:08.780
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, they're saying give us a few days.
07:33:11.660
And it's not like it's a national election we've been planning for for four years or anything.
07:33:15.780
So to give the viewers a feel for where we are, because in the next few days, you're going to be hearing a lot about Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, a breakdown of where we stand right now.
07:33:25.360
In Wisconsin, President Trump leads 51.3 to 47.3 with 85 percent of the vote reporting.
07:33:32.160
In Michigan, President Trump up 53.8 to Biden's 44.6 with 62 percent of the vote in.
07:33:38.360
And real quick, Wayne County, which is the Detroit Mecca, always goes blue.
07:33:46.300
We're still tracking just how much of the results are coming in.
07:33:48.580
It does look like we're waiting for a pretty healthy amount of votes from Wayne County, as well as a good number of early votes, absentee votes as well.
07:33:57.100
And finally, in Pennsylvania, President Trump is leading 56.6 to 42.2 percent with 64 percent in.
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This is what everyone's going to be keeping their eye on right now.
07:34:06.760
President Trump does hold commanding leads on paper.
07:34:09.560
It's just going to come down to what the voter turnout was in some of those more urban areas that many times are late to report.
07:34:15.020
And what happened with those early votes and absentee ballots?
07:34:17.580
And the president, as he tweeted, thinks that he is doing very well and that it's just not getting covered.
07:34:25.220
And he said he's going to be speaking to the American people soon.
07:34:32.860
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The media, no matter what happens in this election tonight, the media has gone all in for the left.
07:35:28.360
And not just for Democrats, but for truly a radical revolutionary left whose utopianist ideal is to reframe the country.
07:35:42.760
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We're joined tonight now by my very good friend, one of the first people with whom I began to engage politically.
07:35:54.760
And he was with us last year for some of the most hilarious and drunken parts of our election coverage.
07:36:02.400
Bill Whittle, you remember those halcyon days of 2016 when we thought everything was so calm and history was over.
07:36:10.060
And there's all going to be smooth sailing and dandelions from here to the horizon.
07:36:15.720
Well, let me begin by saying hello, Jeremy, and hello, Mike, and hello, Ben, and hello, Clay.
07:36:29.360
I'll tell you how it feels right now out there, you know.
07:36:32.100
Right now it feels like I am watching my beloved Florida Gators in a national championship game against Florida State.
07:36:38.420
There's four minutes left in the fourth quarter.
07:36:40.880
We're up by a safety, and they have looked like they fumbled the ball, but they've gone to the instant replay,
07:36:47.320
and now the refs are looking in the picture, and, oh, the feed got cut.
07:36:52.020
It's just this state of limbo, and this is the world that they structured.
07:36:56.840
There was – we all knew, everybody knew coming into this that there was no way we're going to know this.
07:37:02.060
There was no way that Americans were going to know a result of the election on election day.
07:37:09.480
Well, you know, Dick Morris just said – his analysis was Biden has fallen apart,
07:37:14.420
meaning 300,000 votes behind in Michigan, 750,000 behind in Pennsylvania.
07:37:19.320
But Dems and the media allies want to create the impression that there's no winner in this race
07:37:23.220
so they can litigate it, and it looks like they'll just be reaffirming.
07:37:28.340
So Trump is up by this enormous – when I last checked, it was like a 15-point lead in Pennsylvania.
07:37:34.280
In any other election in American history, that would have been called four hours ago.
07:37:44.300
And speaking of which, by the way, tonight we can definitely say that we watched the destruction
07:37:49.500
of whatever audience Fox News may have had left, you know?
07:37:52.640
I mean, the commentary out there is just nonstop.
07:38:04.940
Well, they waited until the Florida count got to 104% before they called Florida.
07:38:13.500
I have to tell you, I started feeling good about the election by watching Young Turks and watching
07:38:20.980
And by the way, and this is, I think this is really, really important, really important
07:38:25.320
because we're talking about the culture and things changing on a fundamental level.
07:38:28.960
I'm watching the Live Turks feed on the Live Turks channel and 50 to one, the comments are
07:38:40.840
We're seeing, we're seeing Republicans coming out of this Stockholm syndrome.
07:38:47.340
When you have a Trump rally in Beverly Hills, when you hear a Biden bus is coming to Texas
07:38:52.820
and we're going to meet that, it's like there's this open willingness to fight back.
07:39:04.180
I will say this, Bill, you know, you talk about Fox News falling apart.
07:39:07.680
Obviously, we haven't been watching and can't speak to it.
07:39:10.180
I think a lot of Americans still have cable so they can have Fox News.
07:39:13.640
The average cable bill in America today is almost $271 a month.
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You may not know it, but every time you pay that $271 to the cable company, CNN is getting
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some of your money, even if you don't watch them because of carriage fees.
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MSNBC is getting some of your money, even if you don't watch them because of carriage
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You are paying people who want to destroy you so that you can get Fox News who may not
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want to destroy you, but certainly isn't telling it to you straight.
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They're certainly not giving you the information that you need.
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They're certainly not giving you the kind of firepower that you need to be able to stand
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Go over to The Blaze and get Louder with Crowder and Glenn Beck and Allie Stuckey and Lauren Chen.
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And don't get me started on what happens if you stop paying for your kids' lousy college
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education that won't even give them a job but will cost them their soul and cost you your
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That's going to cost you more than a Ferrari, and your kids are going to be paying for
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Your family is going to be paying for it for the rest of your life.
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You have to stop funding the people who want to destroy you.
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Because I put together a kind of a video like, you know, I think it's going to go well, but
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if it doesn't go well, then what do we do then?
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And the analogy I made was to say that if this were election to go against Trump, then
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the way I think about it is, is I look at the country as like the Saturn V rocket, because
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But seriously, it's like when that mission lasted 11,000 minutes, of which the first two
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And once those first two minutes in the first stage is gone, it's nothing but dead weight.
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You cut it loose and it goes crashing back into the ocean.
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And that's how I feel about the country right now.
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I feel like I feel like the working half of the country is carrying all of this dead weight.
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It's carrying all of these all of these horrible philosophies, all of these horrible schools,
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all of these horrible universities, all of this corrupt media, all of it.
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I feel like I feel like it's time just to cut that loose.
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And if you could, then then what that upper stage would do would be just accelerate like
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I'm almost at the point where it's like arguing this since we've been doing this.
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It's kind of like it's kind of like somebody's got up.
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Well, it's kind of like grabbing the flag, the pennant at the at the back of the Titanic
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and trying to hold it, you know, and tread water and stop that ship from going down.
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And there comes a point when you have to really say to yourself, all right, look, this thing's
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Now, the only question is, am I going with it or am I going to let it go and let it go?
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And so what you said a minute ago about about our own schools and not paying people
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one hundred thousand dollars a year to teach them how to hate you is is what I mean by letting
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You're not talking about letting go of the country.
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You're not about letting go of the institutions.
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Election counting, Donald Trump won the election tonight, given the point spread he has in Michigan,
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But if he's reelected, I would trade the border wall.
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I would even trade getting the election system in place if I could get the Department of Justice
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breaking up big tech, if I could get that one thing from the second term.
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I'm with you, because we know that the mainstream media is obsolete and dinosaurs.
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But when but when big tech they're censoring the president right now, the Hunter Biden laptop
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That is the that is the suppression of a news story by big tech.
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And it may cost us the election if it if it had been covered the way anything else had
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So I mean, I am not up enough on the breakdown of the mail in ballots and the absentee ballots
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to to say that Trump's lead right now in these swing states holds up because you have 67 percent
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of the vote in in Pennsylvania, 63 percent in in Michigan, 78 percent in in Wisconsin.
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I'm frankly not enough of a precinct level knower of the vote tally to say that Trump's
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lead would hold up there because early on, you know, there was talk about how Joe Biden
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So it really depends where there was talk about Joe Biden walking away with Texas.
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So I'll you know, I'll wait to see what happens.
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I'll tell you what does scare me is that Pennsylvania's rules are not clear about what
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happens when a ballot comes in, not postmarked after the date of the election.
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Not to, you know, brag on on Florida some more now that I live there.
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But but I will say that Florida's election system is actually excellent.
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We knew the result tonight because they know how to count their damned votes.
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Why is it that Florida, which was a laughingstock in 2000, knows how to count their damn votes,
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but nobody else knows how that's actually right.
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Because they were laughingstock in 2000, they've had to do the work.
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They had all the votes counted tonight in a battleground state that was expected to be
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extremely contentious and they had it all counted and they were done.
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So why is it such a grave ask for the American people to say to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin?
07:44:50.180
For the same reason it's been it's for the same reason that YouTube doesn't publish
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clear terms and policies, the same reason that Facebook changes their rules continually,
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the same reason that that Twitter won't tell you their process for blacklisting someone
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And if you get suspended, they won't tell you why you were suspended.
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If you get demonetized on YouTube, they won't tell you why you were demonetized.
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It's because the ambiguity allows people to be capricious.
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These states don't want to have clear rules because they want to be able to make up the
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rules when they need to step in and change a result.
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So Philip Klein, who's the executive editor over at the Washington Examiner, he just tweeted
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So they expect to have returns in by 3 a.m., which is the last remaining big batch of Biden
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votes because that's Dane County, Madison, which is nearly all in.
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If that holds after the Milwaukee dump, then he takes Wisconsin.
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And if Trump takes Wisconsin, the chances are that he wins the election because I'm taking
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Wisconsin, but not taking Pennsylvania would be a little bit difficult.
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We could truly wake up with an answer to our question.
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It is possible that we wake up in the morning and we have a much clearer answer as to where
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A much different ending to the night than what we experienced when we were all together
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We have a clip of what happened when Bill Whittle was on the show four years ago.
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You know, all this time I was afraid I was going to go over to Ben's point of view.
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You finally, Ben, you finally see, you finally see things my way.
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That's the funniest shit that I've ever heard of.
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That's like that old story of the Buddha, you know, teaching a sermon, you know, and
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You know, in the last, last little bit of the episode, it would have been President Hillary
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I will say that I do feel deprived that we don't get a result tonight because of something
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like that, because the fact that we're all together and we can't watch what would happen
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on MSNBC if they had to announce that Trump had won re-election and it was the full-fledged
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opening of the arc at the end of Raiders and eyeballs falling out, heads exploding.
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They want to do what they're going to do in the dead of night.
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This is this is how everything nefarious happens there.
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You know, obviously history is 2020, but there are hills that we should have stood and died
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And the Al Franken election where they show up with 200 ballots, all for Franken in a
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Statistician says the nearest chance of that nearest whole number is zero.
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But the one we should have, the one we should never, ever, ever have agreed to was the 2000
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In that state election in 2000 between Gore and Bush, you have a mechanical count of the
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If it's within a certain margin of error, you can do another mechanical count of the vote
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And the fact that we let that thing go on for weeks and months and they're holding up
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the chads and they're doing this whole thing, that is where we should have said, look, a
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But if you don't actually take this action in the correct order and put it in the right
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box and mark the right things, then that's not our fault to try and figure out what you
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And from that moment forward is when the left started saying that George Bush's presidency
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They did the same thing with Trump and they're going to do it now.
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Basically, it's not who votes is who counts the votes that he's been placing the attorney
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Yeah, he tried to be lost with Brexit even the second time.
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It is amazing that he figured out that it doesn't have to do with reality, has to do with
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the guys who announced reality and he's funded them.
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He's funded the D.A.s who are allowing all these riots to take place.
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I can't believe that you're a billion with a B.
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I can't believe Drew's spouting these anti-Semitic.
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No, I just I will say that if Trump does end up losing narrowly, it is entirely due to
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Yes, the election is already pre-stolen, right?
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When when the Hunter Biden laptop story is not only not covered, but but you cannot you
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cannot share the link with a friend, then that is a stolen election.
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And that's also a pretty good definition of a monopoly, because if I decided to call you
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and say, hey, you know, I think Trump's going to break me and I find out that the telephone
07:50:10.880
company has cut off my service because they don't like my opinion that I'm sharing with
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you, then it's time to do something about about that monopoly.
07:50:19.480
So, Bill, you you remember I can't remember the name of the Newsweek editor who I believe
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He said in 2004 that that media bias was probably a 15 point swing.
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And I did a I did a video about that a few years later.
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I took the electoral map of the United States, which would have been the Obama election 2008.
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And I took 15 points and just swung them from one column to the other.
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Just what the news media bias put into the map.
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And the Democrats carried D.C. and they carried Hawaii.
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And then McCain wins five hundred and eleven to nine.
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So if he was saying in 2004, when the media still had the veneer of objectivity, that the
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media was worth a 15 point swing in favor of the Democrats, what must it be now when they
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literally will just stop your ability to say things?
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But theoretically, it could be less because there is this movement against that.
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Obviously, what we're seeing is a movement of people disbelieving what the media is telling
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I mean, how much can you lie before people start to say, well, you're lying?
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You do also have to wonder, you know, you were asking what the purpose of some of the
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And I don't think that everybody is nefariously oriented in order to get Democrats elected.
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But if you were going to nefariously orient the polls in order to depress Republican turnout,
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what you would do is put out a bunch of push polls suggesting that Joe Biden was up 17 points.
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I don't think the Chinese created COVID-19 in a lab.
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But if they were going to, a disease that primarily kills people in the age demographic
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who vote for Trump and they give everyone the opportunity to shut down the American economy
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I guess my thought on the pollsters, it's not that they have to be actively curious.
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It's that they're all so in the same bubble that they all think so exactly the same, that
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they all spend so much of their effort reinforcing one another that I don't think that they
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would even subject their own beliefs or their own polling processes to the kind of scrutiny
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that would be necessary to make them accurate or fair.
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What are the 2020 election, the COVID-19 pandemic and global warming have in common?
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All three of them have large majorities of people who believe the computer models over
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All three of them are the result of computer modeling and so is the projections and so
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There are numbers of people out there who, if you tell them this number comes out of a
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And when they say they follow the science, when you hear Democrats saying, we're the party
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You're the party that follows the expert and the authority.
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But you're not the party that's following the data.
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And this reminds me of the classic joke about liberal intellectuals, which is they say,
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well, yeah, sure, it works in practice, but will it work in theory?
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Yeah, it's absolutely true and a great point that they famously with climate change, if
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their model says that on November 3rd, 2020, the temperature in Los Angeles will be 93 degrees
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and today is November 3rd, 2020, and they're in Los Angeles and it's 87 degrees, they will
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They draw a map and they got the coastline in the rivers.
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Then they go up to the bridge and they look out the window and a coastline is predicted
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there and they see all of these cliffs and they're predicting a river basin.
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And they look at the at the coastline and they look at their map and say that the coastline
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And they really are the kind of people who say, well, if there's a disagreement between
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the atmosphere and the data, then the atmosphere is wrong.
07:54:08.800
If there's a disagreement between the poll numbers and the actual voting, then there's
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Well, this is actually the hallmark of the left is that no matter what fails, the the
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And so this is why I do think that the polling, it's not that it's nefarious.
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I think there's probably some nefarious things that happen.
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It's not that I'm saying that it's all nefarious per se.
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It's that I'm saying that their system is so flawed and no matter how many times they
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fail, they have no incentive to correct it because to correct it would be to acknowledge
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And not just around the fringes, not just it's not something that can be tweaked.
07:54:49.660
One, the White House press pool is going to be assembling in the East Room.
07:54:52.320
So we should probably hear from the president shortly.
07:54:54.920
Also, the the Montana Senate race has been announced for Steve Daines.
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So Republicans will in nearly all probability retain the Senate because with Daines winning
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in Montana, you expect both Georgia races to go to the Republicans.
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I mean, honestly, like this is the first time I've ever rooted for Susan Collins, but Susan
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And that is a major comeback because she was down five to seven points.
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This is the second time we've vanquished that utter liberal contrivance.
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The amount of money they poured into the Senate.
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I mean, the amount of money that the Lincoln Project blew.
07:55:36.380
I hope they enjoy their yacht because they're not going to get a lot of repeat business after
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They're actually in the little dinghy that Mike Bloomberg tows behind his big yacht.
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Mike Bloomberg dumping $100 million into Florida to get his ass kicked and them dumping
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$100 million into South Carolina so that Lindsey Graham of all people could kick their ass.
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And then Mitch McConnell beating Amy McGrath by one million points after he cost $90 million
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And they just set their money on fire in the Senate.
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It's a little too close for comfort there because the late polling numbers are still coming
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in, particularly from Atlanta and some of the metro regions.
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And so if Trump were to lose Georgia, the election's over, essentially.
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I mean, if he loses Georgia, there's pretty much no way he can come back from losing Georgia
07:56:32.480
Everything has to break for Trump to win Arizona.
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The only network that is called Arizona remains Fox, I believe.
07:56:37.560
I don't think anybody else has actually called Arizona at this point.
07:56:40.180
But he's up 65% in the votes that are still, that are just now coming in.
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The question is how many votes there are and does it retain it?
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I think he has to win 67% of all outstanding votes and it has to be over 900,000 of them.
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The question is whether he comes in at 61% or at 67%.
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So it's a lot too close to call in Arizona, which goes to show that, I mean, I like Martha
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McSally as a person, but you have to have a special kind of skill to lose both Senate
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I want to take a few questions from our dailywire.com members.
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There's the, I keep saying they're the reason that the show has been free all night tonight.
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We, we typically reserve this kind of content or at least large chunks of it for our dailywire.com
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But tonight we felt that, that the kind of community we've built, they would want everyone
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And real quick and real quick, guys, I just wanted to let you know that we're hearing from
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multiple White House press pool reporters that the president could be speaking any
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So we'll try to get to as many member questions as possible.
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And we will definitely be going to the White House to hear from President Trump because
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he has said that he's going to make a big announcement and that he thinks that he's
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Voter fraud always comes in less than we fear it will.
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I think that they have genuinely put forward an idea.
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You know, when the attorney general tweets that when the votes are counted, Biden will
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And I think that Knowles is right, that that gives Trump a way forward in the courts.
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But I'm not expecting the kind of I'm not personally expecting the kind of voter fraud
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that can turn an actual victory into a defeat, except in Pennsylvania.
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I think Pennsylvania has shown signs of being utterly corrupt.
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You know, it's worth pointing out in Pennsylvania, a local news affiliate there did an experiment
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early on with the mail-in ballots and they set up a dummy mailbox and they sent in the
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mail-in ballots and they received two birthday cards to the mailbox.
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But on top of all of the evidence, and it's pretty significant evidence of fraud and corruption
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There are going to be a lot of lawsuits, by the way, in Pennsylvania.
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It's just going to be crazy because essentially the governor of Pennsylvania decided unilaterally
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And the status quo ante, which is that they were all supposed to start processing the mail-in
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But eight counties said they were going to wait until tomorrow morning to start processing
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And again, it is unclear by Pennsylvania process whether all of these things have to be postmarked
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If they don't have to be postmarked, you literally have no way of knowing that the ballots were
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legally cast before the election or if they were cast after the election.
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It's going to end up back at the Supreme Court.
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He deserves every single bit of it because that jerk, John Roberts, he's the one who turned
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down this case a week ago thinking that he could avoid all responsibility for ever having
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to rule on it if Donald Trump would just lose heavily, like the polls were saying.
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And now it'll end up back at the Supreme Court and he's going to have to rule on it.
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And then we'll get the specter of the legitimacy of the Supreme Court being called into question
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The damn well will be if he rules the wrong way.
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It will be called into question by me and by conservatives.
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Why is the court always so afraid of the left calling their legitimacy into question?
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How about we call their legitimacy into question when they make preposterous
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You know, you remember only a few weeks ago when the biggest scandal in the country was
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that Donald Trump was going to destroy the post office so that people could vote.
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One of the things that that I haven't heard enough people talk about is that when you use
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mail-in ballots, you turn the federal government, you give the federal government a role in state
08:00:45.420
elections because we don't, you know, people like to say, oh, Donald Trump lost the popular
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There's no such thing as a national popular vote for president because we don't have a
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If you're going to let sort of pure democracy add up everybody in the country, divide it
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If that's how you wanted to come up with your president, you'd have to have a national
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But we have unbelievable diversity of standards in all of these different states because we
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When you bring the post office in, you alter that and you give the incumbent president.
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I'm actually speaking to the concern of the left.
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You give the incumbent president who is the head of the post office.
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In other words, what I'm saying is that one of the reasons that America has resisted tyranny
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It's set up not to do much because of all these things we call checks and balances.
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And there is this I don't think it was even intended that there's this incident.
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There's this coincidental protection, which is that the chief executive doesn't have any
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real power over the thing that elects him, which is 50 distinct presidential elections
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So what they've done by going to this mail in ballot system is they've actually made
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The left always it's always projection with the left.
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They're saying, oh, Trump's they're realizing that this is possible.
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So they're preemptively accusing this guy of doing it.
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We will see that the president will use the post office to preserve his own power now
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that they've made the post office and made the number one mechanism for voting in the
08:02:24.340
Quick, quick note here, just on a slightly separate topic.
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You know, the president Trump gets a lot of credit and rightly so for getting out crowds
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and sizes that people haven't seen and for the high levels of voter enthusiasm.
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We need a slow clap for Mitch McConnell because that dude is just ice.
08:02:38.000
I mean, seriously, cocaine, Mitch, he brings it for capital establishment who we were all
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And I think with some good reason, the fact is that Mitch McConnell is almost solely responsible
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And not only that, he is going to he's going to retain his majority leadership in the Senate
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And there were a bunch of races that were knife's edge and he deployed the resources
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And listen, it's worth saying, if Donald Trump loses the presidency and Mitch McConnell retains
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the Senate, then truly Mitch McConnell will have prevented the left wing revolution.
08:03:13.100
And by the way, you can add Lindsey Graham to that.
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Because you have Lindsey Graham, point one point one point oh and two point oh.
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And both of them were radicalized for freedom by the by the Kavanaugh.
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They both saw what was going on and were so outright disgusted by it that it kind of blew
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that kind of outer shell of, you know, kind of rhino crust away like and now all of a
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The great the gentleman from the great state of whatever you really are an actual tyrant,
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Also, by the way, Republicans did pick up governorships tonight.
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So Republicans ended up winning a few more governorships, which is really, really important.
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State legislatures did not go the wrong way, widely speaking, which is a very good thing.
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All of that is deeply important, considering redistricting is coming in 2020.
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If that had not happened, that would be a big, big, big problem.
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Alicia, we have time for another question from a dailywire.com member.
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And once again, if the president comes in, we'll be sure to go with it.
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Ben, of course, last week you did a show about the resume or maybe lack of resume of Joe
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Biden and how he's been in politics for longer than you and I have been alive.
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So a member wants to know from you, which what do you think the first 100 days of a Biden
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I mean, I think that if the Republicans maintain the Senate majority, it's going to be very
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difficult to think of what a Biden presidency looks like in terms of major ambitions.
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I think McConnell gives him pretty much what McConnell wants to give him.
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I think on immigration, he's not going to present a giant amnesty package.
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I think his agenda is basically stopped cold in its tracks.
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What you what you will see is a resurgence of resurgence of the regulatory state.
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One problem with the way that Trump has approached the government.
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That when you rule by executive fiat, when you do everything through executive action,
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So a lot of the great victories of the Trump administration have been through EOs.
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And there will be real consequences to rolling those back.
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A lot of the reason that the economy has surged pre covid under or pre lockdowns.
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I don't like to blame covid covid didn't shut down the economy.
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People shut down the economy before the covid shutdowns.
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The economy was surging in part because of things that President Trump and his
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administration were doing at the executive level, things that you don't hear about
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cutting regulation, pulling back organizations like the EPA, getting out of the way of business.
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You know, I think you'll see Biden tried to declare a national mask mandate by executive
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I think that you will see Joe Biden try to reengage with Iran and the Palestinian authority.
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And the good news about that is that I think that's going to radicalize the Democrats even
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That's the genius of the American system, right?
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You need that and the presidency if you're going to do real mischief, right?
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If you're really going to mess things up, you got to have all three.
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And what we come out of this with tonight is exactly like you said.
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It's like there is a circuit breaker in there now.
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And and that keeps us from the worst of the worst.
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Kind of to your point, Jeremy, though, I will defend the executive orders.
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But it's the same problem that you're recognizing, which is that we are essentially governed by
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the executive agencies, by the administrative state.
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And so my defense of executive orders is when it's the administrative agencies that are running
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the country, the only way to rein them in is through the executive orders, which then
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But the problem is the problem is the problem is in that system.
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And there's no way really around that, because even when Congress passes laws, the laws mostly
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just empower the agencies to go do whatever they're going to do.
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Remember when Elon Musk said he's going to open that Tesla factory, despite what the California
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I'm convinced that the reason they didn't arrest him was because Musk knew and they knew that
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they didn't have the legal authority to arrest him.
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That the whole thing is essentially a kind of an intimidation game.
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And he called their bluff and and nothing happened to him.
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It was such a high profile case that I think if they had the legal authority to shut the place
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By the way, the current House count is ours are plus five in the House.
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Republicans picked up five seats in the House, which nobody really saw coming.
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Basically, anything that was in flippable distance, Republicans flipped.
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I want to make a quick prediction about President Trump's speech.
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I predict that President Trump will have achieved a flag density background.
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But, you know, I remember you talking about quite rightly how Republicans never understood
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If people are behind you smiling and applauding.
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No matter how stupid or bad the idea is or how good it is.
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If people if you can see people nodding and agreeing, you are inclined to.
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And if there are some of them are, if not everybody is a white male, if some of them are black,
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And he watched from watch for the outrage to break out because Joe Biden already declared
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And so Trump is going to come out and say precisely the same thing.
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But he's going to add an implication that voter fraud might be in play and they're going
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What Biden said was he said it's not over until all the votes are counted.
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Because because technically speaking, it's over when the polls close.
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But what Biden was setting up was he's setting up, no, no, it's not over until every vote
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is counted, which means that if we find a man full of votes, then we've got to count those
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And it's just going to be a bloody mess this week.
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It is going to be a bloody mess this week, unless we see bigger numbers in states like
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And Bill, I've actually heard you talk about this for years.
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And they have to win beyond the margin of cheating.
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And it's not looking real good for that right now.
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Especially in Pennsylvania, which is going to be the most important state.
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Yeah, he's up about 700,000 votes in Pennsylvania right now.
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But we're waiting for every major metro area in Pennsylvania to come in.
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Again, he's up about 300,000 votes in Michigan right now, but they're still waiting on a bunch
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And Wisconsin, he is up currently about 112,000 votes.
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But again, they're waiting for Milwaukee to come in.
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So if Milwaukee comes in and it ain't that heavy, or Madison comes in, and I think they're
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still waiting on a little bit of Madison to come in.
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If he wins Wisconsin, then, of course, everything shifts again.
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So it's a real seesaw out there, really because of Arizona.
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And so, you know, Mark Levin, I think rightly, was ripping on Cindy McCain, saying, like, you're
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going, like, your personal animus between the McCain family and the Trump family.
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And listen, at a certain point, you do have to say to Trump that the man was cutting off
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When this whole thing started, there were two Republican senators in Arizona and a Republican
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And by this point, there are two Democratic senators in Arizona and a Republican governor in
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He's presumably going to lose in Arizona in the state.
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I understand that Trump has personal animus issues.
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But, dude, dude, I mean, like, that'd be two more Republican senators.
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This is one of the consequences of Donald Trump.
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It'll be a great irony if Donald Trump loses because of his treatment of McCain.
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One of the worst things that Donald Trump did was his treatment of John McCain.
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That doesn't justify what John McCain or the McCain family has done subsequently.
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John McCain essentially upheld Obamacare despite Donald Trump.
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But you can be angry with John McCain for his behavior.
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That doesn't change that you should also be angry with Donald.
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I'm sorry, would you be mad at John McCain for his behavior?
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You can't treat someone like that and then expect them to support you.
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For four years, I've been going on and saying, you know, you shouldn't be rude to people.
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And people yell at me and say, oh, well, Donald Trump has to be rude.
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And I think, like, it's just not good politics.
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That's how that's that's what Donald Trump costs.
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To have a guy who's who's got that kind of skin and that he's going to come out in a few seconds and he's going to reframe the narrative from Joe Biden saying, if we keep counting votes, we think we're winning.
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Donald Trump's going to come out and say, no, they're stealing this election.
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And he's going to reframe the narrative and no one else that I've ever seen on the Republican side has that kind of it's a good it's a good point.
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It is the tragic fact of Donald Trump that all his strengths are also weaknesses and all those weaknesses.
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Yeah, but he kind of blows it up to Trumpy levels.
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It turns out that his thin skin nature with regard to John McCain and his constant ripping on him is what costs him the election.
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I mean, a lot of the things that, you know, we rip on are some of the things that allow him to blow off conventionalism and do incredible things for sure.
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But like, at least in the interest of self-interest, you would think that at a certain point, you'd be like, just lay it off, dude.
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But the classic historical example is people complaining to Lincoln that Grant was a drinker and Lincoln says, I can't spare this man.
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As a matter of fact, I care a great deal that he's a drinker and it's a real problem.
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And I'll take the drinking if that's what Ulysses Grant costs me to win the war.
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If Ulysses S. Grant gets drunk off his ass and loses Vicksburg, it's a different story.
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And, you know, he would not be Donald Trump if he weren't like this.
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Well, so we're moments away from hearing from the president from the White House.
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I'm hoping, honestly, I do hope that he uses a little bit of measured language about stealing
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I hope he pulls a Charles II and disbands the Congress.
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He needs to just put Gandalf's staff down like that and have the top of it start glowing.
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You shall not count votes past the end of election day.
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That was my favorite Babylon Bee story was after he got COVID and they said, Trump the
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You guys probably didn't catch it, but earlier tonight, the Babylon Bee tweeted out saying
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election results may take weeks to count due to the due to the Common Core new math.
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I'm like the Daily Show that put out a meme of Death Star blowing up Florida.
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I'm old enough to remember when Republicans putting that kind of stuff out.
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I mean, I'm old enough to remember because I'm more than 20 seconds old.
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If someone were murdered in Florida, if the Republicans had put that out and someone were
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to be murdered in Florida tomorrow for any reason, I mean, like a bank robbery happens
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So like the ultimate good news is, is that we're still in a 50-50 election with that
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With the ability to say that anything that Donald Trump does and have front page of the
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New York Times and 15 days of coverage on CNN and then anything that Biden does is buried,
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there's got to be a 40-point headwind that we're facing with big media and big tech.
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I'll bet it's 40 points and the country's still here.
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And that goes to show you how fundamentally sound this country is, that you can take this
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You know, it's like we shouldn't just bow our heads and say, this is the way it is.
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You know, when we talk about the replacement media, that's it.
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Yeah, we're not going to start winning by losing.
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And one of the problems that conservatives face is that we abandon the culture entirely
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And then we're shocked that the culture doesn't look like us anymore.
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And then all the Christians decided not to be a part of the nation.
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If Trump says we're going to teach people about the founding of the country and we're going to do
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so in a patriotic way and we're going to hand out constitutions.
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If only there was some kind of historical series about, like, great Americans that people
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I think I could probably give those scripts for you by morning.
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And if you'd like to access those, you can head on over to dailywire.com right now
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If you thought I was going to miss the chance, click on that once more.
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We're just going to vamp on this until Trump comes up.
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My father taught me to never pass up a cheap shot.
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And Ben's father taught him to never pass up a promo code.
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The bus is significantly wealthier than the other.
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They're going to part like the beginning of a movie premiere.
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And he's just going to walk out in the spotlight.
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And then he's going to sing, play it against him.
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It's late in the evening, people, if you hadn't realized.
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We definitely started to fade about four hours ago.
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We're close to the point where Wisconsin results become not all that far off, right?
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Also, it's worth pointing out, just for framing the president,
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He's a 74-year-old man who somehow has a shocking amount of energy.
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But Joe Biden has been asleep for hours at this point.
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And Donald Trump is going to give a speech at 2.30 in the morning.
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Donald Trump, who was hospitalized with COVID-19 something like four weeks ago,
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is about to walk out on a stage at almost 3 o'clock in the morning.
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we've had one truly punctual president in my lifetime, and that's George W. Bush.
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George W. Bush would never, he would consider it beneath his dignity as a man
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to let us sit here and look at a bunch of flags when he said that he was going to be on TV.
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No other president has been that way, certainly not Barack Obama, definitely not Donald Trump.
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And if he thinks that there's any chance he's going to be able to walk out and say that he won Wisconsin,
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he'll keep us staring at these flags for the next 42 minutes.
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All you need to know about that is when Donald Trump goes out and does a rally,
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and I've covered a lot of these rallies, you'll hear the Lee Greenwood start playing,
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He, every single second of that song, he'll dance a little, he'll point, he'll walk up to the podium,
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It's all he wants every second, and I think we're getting that tonight.
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Right now, if Fulton and DeKalb County come in at the same rate they have,
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and this is according to Jonathan Allen, and this is from NBC News,
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well, you guys are going to have to get up and do your shows.
08:18:59.500
But people need to understand that there is still going to be enormous amounts of breaking news tomorrow
08:19:06.060
that needs to be covered, and the Daily Wire is going to be your place to get that coverage.
08:19:10.060
We keep talking about being the replacement media.
08:19:12.320
We keep talking about being your source for information.
08:19:14.600
That's not – we've announced the Candace Owens edition moving to Nashville with us.
08:19:18.140
We've announced the Prager U Library, announced the New Morning Show,
08:19:20.820
announced the investigative journalists, announced our foray into fiction.
08:19:24.040
All of that is stuff that will happen over the next three to four months.
08:19:28.060
But right now, as we speak, this is still a better place for you to get information
08:19:34.860
They're going to wake up tomorrow morning and start lying to you.
08:19:38.460
We'll tell you the truth to the best of our ability, and we'll at least tell you our biases
08:19:41.580
so that you have a filter by which to weigh the things that we tell you.
08:19:47.340
We tell you exactly who we are, what we think, and how we assess these situations.
08:19:51.580
You'll want to tune in first thing in the morning.
08:19:54.860
So it just occurred to me I might not be going to sleep tonight
08:19:57.500
because I'm live for the website at 6.30 a.m. Pacific,
08:20:02.760
and then that goes live for everybody else a little later.
08:20:06.200
So if you're a Daily Wire member, you can watch that live on the website.
08:20:10.420
That is 6.30 a.m., which means I will – whatever bags you see under my eyes now,
08:20:16.080
But the reason probably I won't be able to go to sleep is we are going to be getting breaking news all night long.
08:20:21.240
We'll probably still be getting breaking news as my show starts tomorrow.
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So if anything, I'm thinking of my show tomorrow as an extension of this live stream
08:20:28.320
because you're going to get extraordinarily consequential information coming in.
08:20:32.920
It might not even all be in by the end of the show.
08:20:35.760
And that will be the same for all of the guys tomorrow morning.
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We're going to be bringing it all to you to the best of our –
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I will be sleeping and just assuming that these guys are doing a good job,
08:20:47.380
and then I'll wake up periodically to make sure that the coffers are full
08:20:50.440
and that I still have power because these are the only things that matter to me.
08:20:58.820
Here we see the Trump family walking into the briefing room.
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Yeah, there's Lonnie Trump, the lesser-known Trump son.
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This is without question the latest news conference I've ever had.
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And I want to thank the American people for their tremendous support.
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Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight.
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And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people.
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I want to thank the First Lady, my entire family, and Vice President Pence, Mrs. Pence, for being with us all through this.
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And we were getting ready for a big celebration.
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We were winning everything, and all of a sudden it was just called off.
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The results tonight have been phenomenal, and we are getting ready.
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I mean, literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good, such a vote, such a success.
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The citizens of this country have come out in record numbers.
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To support our incredible movement, we won states that we weren't expected to win.
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We won Texas by 700,000 votes, and they don't even include it in the tabulations.
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We're up by 2.5 percent or 117,000 votes with only 7 percent left.
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We're up 1.4 percent or 77,000 votes with only approximately 5 percent left.
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We also, if you look and you see Arizona, we have a lot of life in that, and somebody said, somebody declared that it was a victory for us, and maybe it will be.
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I mean, that's possible, but certainly there were a lot of votes out there that we could get because we're now just coming into what they call Trump territory.
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I don't know what you call it, but these were friendly Trump voters, and that could be overturned.
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The gentleman that called it I watched tonight, he said, well, we think it's fairly unlikely that he could catch.
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That was just a state that if we would have gotten it, it would have been nice, Arizona.
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But there's a possibility, maybe even a good possibility.
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In fact, since I saw that originally, it's been changed, and the numbers have substantially come down just in a small amount of votes.
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But most importantly, we're winning Pennsylvania by a tremendous amount of votes.
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We're up 600, think of this, think of this, think of this.
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We're up 690,000 votes in Pennsylvania, 690,000.
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With 64 percent of the vote in, it's going to be almost impossible to catch.
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And we're coming into good Pennsylvania areas where they happen to like your president.
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We need, because when you add Texas in, which wasn't added, I spoke with the really wonderful governor of Texas just a little while ago.
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He called me to congratulate me on winning Texas.
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I don't think they finished quite the tabulation, but there's no way.
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So we won by 107,000 votes with 81 percent of the vote.
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So when you take those three states in particular and you take all of the others, I mean, we have we have so many.
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You just take a look at all of these states that we've won tonight and then you take a look at the kind of margins that we've won them by.
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And all of a sudden, it's not like we're up 12 votes and we have 60 percent left.
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And all of a sudden, I said, what happened to the election?
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And we have all these announcers saying, what happened?
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And then they said, oh, because you know what happened?
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I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots.
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I said exactly because either they were going to win or if they didn't win, they'll take us to court.
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North Carolina, big victory with North Carolina.
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We lead by 76,000 votes with almost nothing left.
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So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation.
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We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list.
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And as far as I'm concerned, we already have won it.
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I want to thank all of the people that worked with us.
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And, Mr. Vice President, say a few words, please.
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I want to join you in thanking more than 60 million Americans who have already cast their
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vote for four more years for President Donald Trump in the White House.
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And while the votes continue to be counted, we're going to remain vigilant, as the President
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The right to vote has been at the center of our democracy since the founding of this
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nation, and we're going to protect the integrity of the vote.
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But I really believe with all of my heart, with the extraordinary margins, Mr. President,
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that you've inspired in the states that you just described and the way that you launched
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this movement across the country to make America great again.
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I truly do believe, as you do, that we are on the road to victory and we will make America
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There you have it, the President and Vice President Mike Pence making their remarks.
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President Trump saying, as far as I'm concerned, we've already won it, will be the only headline
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Every newspaper in the country is now, you know, furiously rejiggering their front page
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so that they can talk about the Red Mirage and Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and Google.
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I am certain before any of us are asleep tonight, we'll already be fact-checking the President,
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censoring the President, saying that, I mean, look, they told us this was going to happen.
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All of the major social networks and media organizations said they would not allow someone
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I think they're cheating by changing the rules.
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I think they're cheating by not continuing to count the ballots overnight.
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And I think they're cheating with crooked elected officials like the Attorney General
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of Pennsylvania who called the election for Biden before Election Day even.
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And I think it is a damn fine thing that the President is standing up to it.
08:32:57.940
He said something tonight that I think a lot of people are going to say was extreme.
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He said, I think we're going to win as far as I'm concerned we already have.
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Because he's saying as far as I'm concerned we've already won this race.
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That is the kind of extreme rhetoric that you're not going to get from Mitt Romney.
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It is the maybe it's the negative thing, but it's also the positive thing about Trump that he is a fighter.
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I don't think he said anything there about ever, ever violating the law or cheating or doing any.
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Michael, didn't the left, they set up the president for months.
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For this very moment, first by saying he's going to he's definitely going to win on election night, but that's only going to be part of the story.
08:33:47.240
That narrative has been in play and he will not concede the election.
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Essentially, they prepared us to see the red mirage begin to fade over the coming hours.
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And the president did not concede and, in fact, said he's going to fight right in the end.
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OK, so Mike Pence said what you're supposed to say, which is the exact same thing that Biden said, right, which is we think we're on the road to victory.
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And when all the votes are counted, then the votes will be counted.
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And, you know, he could have left open the possibility that litigation would be necessary if voter fraud was detected or suspected.
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Right. I mean, there's a responsible way to do this.
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I'm sorry, but it is deeply irresponsible for the president of the United States to declare in the middle of an election where not even close to all the votes have been counted in major swing states that he has already won the election and that it's a major fraud on the American people.
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Otherwise, I'm sorry, but the question is responsible for him to say that as it is for the age of Pennsylvania to say that the question is, what are going to be counted?
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The question is, in Pennsylvania, are they going to invent a bunch of votes because they don't even need to.
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And if there's evidence that a bunch of votes are invented, then it'll end up in court.
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But to preemptively declare fraud before any of those votes have been counted, to declare that he's already won the election when 60 percent of when he says things like I'm up by 100000 votes in Michigan and 60 percent of the vote has been counted or 65 percent of the vote.
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There's no way that I could lose the state. Are you kidding me?
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Of course, there's a way you could lose the state.
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OK, if we had taken that logic in Florida, you would have lost Florida.
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If we taken that logic in Texas, we lost Texas.
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He's saying in Arizona we need to wait until every single vote is counted.
08:35:17.260
You can't then say, OK, we're not going to wait until every vote is counted in legally, legally counted.
08:35:22.180
Right. The ones that we all agree have to be legally cast.
08:35:24.500
That means none of this crap where you find a box of ballots that are filled, you know, two days late with no postmarks.
08:35:30.840
That is well deserving of any sort of lawsuit he wants to bring.
08:35:34.520
That is well deserving of every screech that he can bring to bear.
08:35:37.240
But you can't preemptively declare that the that this vote is a fraud on the American people before there's evidence that that has happened.
08:35:43.940
Well, I can you tell you have preemptively won the election before the election is won.
08:35:46.940
I'll push back just a little bit, Ben, because generally you and I see eye to eye on these things.
08:35:50.220
There is a fraud being perpetrated, though, to Michael's point.
08:35:53.940
The fraud has been going on for four years, but certainly the fraud has been going on for several months.
08:35:58.480
The left has been in a very sophisticated way creating this exact moment.
08:36:04.020
And by pushing pause in some of these states on the vote counting overnight, what they are essentially saying is we we don't want the count to end before our opportunity to cheat.
08:36:14.560
Bingo begins. In other words, we've got to send everybody home so that if more votes need to come, if more ballots need to come in, there's no way to read that other than an opportunity for cheating.
08:36:25.700
Well, you might say you might say they're not going to cheat or you might say there's no evidence that they have cheated.
08:36:29.780
You might it might even be factually true that they don't cheat, but they are giving themselves room to cheat.
08:36:36.420
OK, that is all possible. And what he could easily say is they shouldn't have paused the voting.
08:36:41.340
And we have our lawyers on the ground in all of these states making sure there will be no cheating.
08:36:45.340
We are ready to file lawsuits if we detect the first sign of voter fraud.
08:36:48.480
Right. That is all perfectly within bounds to declare himself the preemptive victor of an election in which half the votes have not yet been counted in any of the swing states he needs to win.
08:36:55.540
And remember, if he loses Arizona, which it looks like he's going to, he doesn't just need to win Pennsylvania.
08:36:59.820
He needs to win Pennsylvania and Wisconsin or Pennsylvania and Michigan.
08:37:02.980
Right. Right. I mean, when he says that they put aside the fact that he preemptively declared that he'd won Georgia, he may very well win Georgia.
08:37:11.700
But Georgia is very close at this point. I just don't I don't like this stuff.
08:37:14.620
I would be on. I spent half my show today ripping up the Pennsylvania AG for saying the exact same thing.
08:37:19.640
Well, I think there's I think there is a distinction, which is that the Pennsylvania AG actually has authority in the Pennsylvania election.
08:37:26.500
And Donald Trump actually doesn't have any authority over.
08:37:30.040
And and and the the Pennsylvania AG saying before the even votes start to be counting.
08:37:35.840
The thing that Donald Trump did in this speech is he not is he not he not only just made the case, he quantified it.
08:37:44.900
And and my take on this is different than yours, Ben.
08:37:48.540
My take is that is that he is saying that the fraud occurred when they stopped the counting, period.
08:37:54.180
That's when it occurred. And there's no question that whatever happened to stop the counting happened because Donald Trump had commanding leads in all of these states.
08:38:02.220
Now, if you're right and Donald Trump actually could have lost those states, let's just say that God's counting the votes and we get an actual count for once.
08:38:09.700
Then you OK, so maybe Trump did lose these states, but it's the stopping of the counting.
08:38:14.500
That's the fraud. And it's the stopping of the counting in the same way that you throw a circuit breaker when the market starts to crash.
08:38:21.560
Yeah, because what it does is it is it takes away.
08:38:25.260
It allows Biden to establish the narrative. And I think what Trump did was he established the counter narrative.
08:38:30.540
And I think he did it right up front. And I am tired of our side having to say constantly.
08:38:36.440
I'm with you about the about the about the politicians making these kind of claims.
08:38:41.640
I'm 100 percent with you on that. But there comes a point when you have to say that if you are going to be the victim of a fraud and you don't say I'm a victim of fraud right now, right now, then the story will be set in stone.
08:38:54.800
The sooner he makes that claim, the sooner. And I want him to win, right?
08:39:00.620
I know you want to endorse him. I want him to win. I want all I want him to win.
08:39:04.100
I what I what I don't want is a situation in which either he wins and he has he has preemptively lessened his own victory by doing this or he loses.
08:39:14.100
And then everybody on our side of the aisle who wanted him to win believes without proper evidence that the that the election is false and wrong.
08:39:21.980
By the way, he also happened to just as a matter of PR step on the fact that they retained the Senate and they won additional House seats.
08:39:28.420
Right. Why is he why is he playing except that for Donald Trump?
08:39:33.000
Again, we've talked about his his flaws and his virtues tonight.
08:39:36.400
Right. One of his fundamental flaws is Donald Trump doesn't care if Republicans retain the Senate, if Donald Trump doesn't retain the presidency, he is not wired to think that way.
08:39:45.540
Donald Trump doesn't think he's not a self-sacrificial figure that Donald Trump sees the entire election as as about Donald Trump.
08:39:52.700
That's how Donald Trump sees the world. He sees buildings with his name on it and he sees buildings without his name on it that his name could one day be on.
08:39:58.340
Right. So I think I think what I would say is I don't like the president saying as far as he's concerned, he's won.
08:40:04.380
I think that that's the overstep. I think that I agree with Bill and Michael that to say that a fraud is happening right now when you stop counting the vote in states where he is ahead.
08:40:14.740
I actually do believe that that's a fraud. It's a fraud. It may not be stealing the election, but it is a kind of fraud.
08:40:22.260
It's giving the opportunity for capriciousness. You're throwing the breaker on a collapsing stock market thing is accurate.
08:40:28.040
Something could happen in a collapsing stock market organically to stop the collapse, but they don't they're not giving that thing the opportunity to play out.
08:40:35.500
They're saying stop everything. I have a question. What is like? I'm perfectly willing to say that that may in fact be fraud.
08:40:41.420
I'm not willing to say that that is in and of itself fraud. I mean, what are the what are they doing?
08:40:46.040
Like I need some evidence of what's actually ever happened. Pennsylvania has new laws for this cycle.
08:40:51.800
So they've got the whole let's keep on voting until we get to the top. So put Pennsylvania aside.
08:40:56.640
I agree. That's right. That's a lawsuit there immediately, of course.
08:40:59.680
But the lead he had in those in those other states was a significant lead and it was an ongoing lead.
08:41:05.000
So why did they stop counting? Where have they stopped? Why?
08:41:08.360
Why don't I know? Because every single election that is I've ever seen, certainly in this country,
08:41:12.680
it may take two or three o'clock in the morning until they count the votes, but they keep counting until they get a number.
08:41:17.180
So, number one, why did they stop? And more importantly, I think, is how do they have the power to stop and get away with it?
08:41:24.880
In other words, they were able to throw that circuit breaker on this election and somehow they got away with it.
08:41:34.620
Well, I think Ben is speaking in a universe that I recognize as the moral universe.
08:41:39.920
He's saying something that is absolutely right and true.
08:41:42.520
Unfortunately, we're not living in that universe, living in a universe of narrative in which one side controls the narrative completely
08:41:49.500
and has been using that narrative for weeks, if not longer, to set up a system whereby they could steal the election.
08:41:56.760
And Donald Trump's protests would seem to be the moral error.
08:42:01.140
And so Donald Trump, as he always does, because he's tone deaf to it, he doesn't care about it, is ignoring that narrative and setting a narrative of his own.
08:42:09.640
And, you know, I have to say that it's been pretty effective for the last four years.
08:42:14.500
It bothers me, too. It bothers me what he just this is the issue, though, because now it bothers me what he just said.
08:42:20.100
But he's a voice alone. He is a man alone against an incredible machine.
08:42:24.900
Wait, hold on. Hold on. In what world is he a man alone?
08:42:27.180
Oh, wait, wait, hold on. We all spend our lives defending against the lie.
08:42:32.180
Every one of us in this room spends our entire life defending against the lies that they are telling.
08:42:36.160
And you're telling me that there's not one of us who'd be out there screaming with him from the top of the building about voter fraud in Pennsylvania when it is evidenced.
08:42:45.060
I've literally said that he should have said in that speech, if there is evidence of voter fraud, we have lawyers on the ground in every state to make sure that this fraud does not does not do this.
08:42:54.020
But I want to again, I want to see as always. I wish Trump were that guy.
08:42:57.940
I wish he had the way of framing things with that incredible strategy.
08:43:02.020
He doesn't. He he's a hammer, but he's a hammer up against a very big nail.
08:43:07.040
But, you know, they they really have worked this and they have the power to work it.
08:43:11.400
We don't have the power to shape the narrative the way they do yet.
08:43:14.720
And and so he is fighting back against that narrative. Does he do it clumsily?
08:43:25.840
I can't discount that. I'm on his. I want him to fight.
08:43:28.160
I understand that narrative. We all want him to fight back against that narrative.
08:43:32.340
I also. Well, no, I also want him to do it in a way that doesn't set the predicate for the next democratic narrative,
08:43:37.020
which is going to be that if there is violence in the cities, they now blame him for the violence.
08:43:39.940
Well, this is this is this is the biggest potential danger to the president tonight is that the left has been setting up.
08:43:48.440
They've known for weeks what he would do in this moment.
08:43:51.180
And they started creating. You say he's owning the narrative right now.
08:43:54.920
I'm not saying he's owning the narrative. I'm saying he's fighting the narrative with the narrative.
08:43:57.740
But they they they baited him, I think, into making this statement.
08:44:02.280
This is what he just said is what they are the most prepared for to have said.
08:44:06.020
And that's the danger. I can't. I want to be careful about being factually accurate.
08:44:10.380
I'm not seeing what states have paused the voting.
08:44:15.220
The president definitely implied and implied pause voting.
08:44:24.060
Well, we have not. The only state that should not be called sometime tonight is Pennsylvania because of this insane ruling.
08:44:30.520
But every other state, didn't he call for the voting to not be counted yet?
08:44:34.200
Well, he said, keep voting and keep counting the votes in Arizona.
08:44:37.480
But we need to stop what's going on in the blue states, didn't he?
08:44:40.360
No, he said, keep counting. He said, he said, keep counting the votes.
08:44:45.760
He if you kept counting the votes according to his lead and his trends in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
08:44:51.700
then he is the next president or he's the president again.
08:44:56.880
We have to count the votes. No, but what he's saying, what he's saying is finding votes.
08:45:00.500
He's what he was very explicit about is keep counting votes.
08:45:07.000
New vote. There should not be new ballots coming into the system, which I think is actually accurate.
08:45:11.800
I don't think new ballots should be coming into the system.
08:45:16.380
And this is this is a this is a genuinely serious issue.
08:45:23.840
When when American Marines first faced the Japanese in Guadalcanal,
08:45:26.960
they fought the more or less fairly the way they fought every other war and the way they fought even with the Wehrmacht in Germany.
08:45:32.040
But when they found out that Japanese would would wave a surrender flag and then they would go and take the surrender and then they'd machine gun these guys down.
08:45:39.140
Or somebody who's calling for a corpsman has a Japanese soldiers got a grenade and and explodes and takes three people out.
08:45:58.280
And I don't have a simple answer for that, but there does.
08:46:02.620
If you are fighting a dishonorable opponent and you decide that you're going to fight honorably,
08:46:06.960
and that means that by fighting honorably, you lose the cause, then evil takes over.
08:46:12.140
I just don't know what about the statement fights.
08:46:13.800
The cause is my issue, meaning that having lawyers file lawsuits, I'm all for having people there to make sure that the fraud doesn't occur.
08:46:20.580
I'm all for I actually generally agree with this.
08:46:22.580
I think that the president's statement was not on the whole useful.
08:46:26.620
I think that the left baited him into a statement and he gave it to them.
08:46:30.660
I think that he there are aspects of the speech that were very strong.
08:46:33.940
I think there are a few places where he overstepped and played right into the hands of Jack Dorsey.
08:46:40.400
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if over the next few minutes we see for the first time the president actually get suspended from some of these social cart launch from some of these social platforms because he just he just crossed the red line that they've been setting up for him for the last several weeks.
08:46:58.000
Listen, we we often disagree about the president's tone and tenor.
08:47:02.820
Let's actually talk about what's going to happen next.
08:47:08.880
And the big line, by the way, there is not the stuff where he says, I want all voting to stop.
08:47:13.180
I think that we all agree here that the media is going to take that out of context and they're going to use that to suggest that he actually wants people not to have their ballots legally counted.
08:47:19.860
What he means is don't keep counting ballots after they're there if they're legally cast.
08:47:26.320
If they arrive at four o'clock in the morning, then that's past the deadline.
08:47:35.500
Well, he said as far as I'm concerned, I mean, that's an important qualifier.
08:47:38.920
It is, you know, but it's an important qualifier.
08:47:40.860
When has Trump ever been responsible in doing this?
08:47:43.060
The only thing that it does always come back, it always comes back to me.
08:47:50.940
And I just want to shake him and say, no, that's not the way you put that.
08:47:54.120
But I understand that he is up against this powerful narrative that is set up by corporations so huge with such reach that he is.
08:48:04.420
And by the way, Joe Biden didn't need to say, as far as I'm concerned, we've won the election because the entire establishment that works for Joe Biden is saying it for him and will be saying it for him.
08:48:15.720
And has already been saying it for him for weeks.
08:48:19.920
And I also get that Hillary Clinton spent four years claiming that she'd won an election.
08:48:25.680
So I will say I'm concerned about election respect from the Democrats that I'm not ruling to hear.
08:48:29.600
But I will say that one of the worst things that could happen, and it is a real possibility, is that if Donald Trump loses and if he kind of pulls the Hillary Clinton and spends the next four years questioning the legitimacy of the election.
08:48:45.280
Then there is no one left who actually believes in the system.
08:48:52.080
They say that the system is fundamentally flawed.
08:48:54.140
If the right can't, if the right doesn't believe in the system anymore, we're at a true crisis in the country.
08:49:00.560
We're going to go to the Daily Wire war room and hear from Alicia Krauss and the gang down there for a moment.
08:49:15.700
And for some final consensus on what's happening on social media, I'm going to toss it over to Cassie Dillon.
08:49:21.880
So right now on social media, everyone is talking about the speech that Trump just gave.
08:49:26.220
For his ultra supporters, it really energized them.
08:49:30.340
But in his non-supporter group, they're very angry about it.
08:49:35.900
They're saying that it was wrong with what happened.
08:49:39.100
Some people are saying that it's wrong, that it'll go to the Supreme Court.
08:49:43.880
So there's a lot of different messages coming out around his speech.
08:49:47.480
Seems pretty partisan, which is how most of his speeches go.
08:49:52.500
We're going to have to keep an eye on social media for the next 24 hours, it looks like,
08:49:55.960
to really know what people are thinking about what's going on.
08:49:59.060
So I'm going to toss it back over to you guys to close out the night.
08:50:11.180
We're still waiting on a lot of information to come in.
08:50:13.680
Editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, Bickley, what happened?
08:50:17.660
Could it have ended any other way by actually not ending?
08:50:32.140
Trump, we said he had to win seven of the 12 battleground states.
08:50:38.540
Pennsylvania, he's way ahead, and he's right about that.
08:50:45.360
So it is possible both candidates have an argument.
08:50:52.240
So we had talked about that with a different scenario.
08:50:54.620
Our second scenario took into account an Arizona loss.
08:51:02.500
If he won in Wisconsin, which he's performing still pretty well, again,
08:51:11.380
A few hours from now, we're told that more of the count's coming in,
08:51:15.380
and just no one can handle staying up that late.
08:51:19.380
We'll probably wake up tomorrow morning and know a little bit more about Wisconsin.
08:51:22.320
And by tomorrow morning, you mean like in a few minutes?
08:51:29.940
We also, you know, Pennsylvania, we knew this was going to be a problematic state.
08:51:34.240
We knew both candidates focusing on it big time, and especially with the late count allowed for up to three days.
08:51:43.960
A lot of people are talking about, look, we might not know until Friday.
08:51:47.680
Let's hope that's not the case, but it might be the case.
08:51:50.000
So, look, there's lots to continue to tune in for.
08:51:55.360
And I think both candidates have made it really clear.
08:52:03.260
Every last vote, every last legal argument, that's what's coming in the next few days.
08:52:08.400
And one of the things that we've been talking about throughout the night with you guys and here in the war room is the media narrative of what's happening,
08:52:15.260
the too close to call, or not even calling actual states that Trump-Pence won or even Biden-Harris won.
08:52:22.360
And, Ian, this is something earlier that you spoke about.
08:52:24.900
You thought that maybe 2020 would be a consensus, and we would be able to have a consensus on the media.
08:52:30.500
And is this election a referendum on the media?
08:52:36.400
Yeah, so really this election is obviously very politically based.
08:52:40.680
But a big part of it is also a cultural referendum.
08:52:46.100
And so we've had four years where the media have basically lied to us, like lied to our face, told us not to believe our own lying eyes.
08:52:52.380
They've told us that burning cities are just the result of peaceful protests.
08:52:55.600
It's been time after time after time, but they're clearly just pushing Democrat narratives.
08:52:59.680
This was our chance as conservatives to reject that, to make a very, very clear statement that the media and Biden are not really desired as representatives.
08:53:11.820
The problem with this outcome is it creates a delay.
08:53:15.740
It creates time for the adrenaline, like we're all feeling right now, to fade, and for the media to calm it down and then just redirect the narrative to really whatever it needs to be.
08:53:24.300
Like, this needed to be definitive to be a definitive indictment of their behavior.
08:53:30.260
And the lack of definition is really going to, I think, make that easy for them.
08:53:33.940
They're going to get away with it is my real concern.
08:53:36.560
And then speaking of that narrative, what are you walking away with tonight, Cabot?
08:53:42.080
We've been talking all night long about these polls that had Biden and Harris up a couple digits.
08:53:48.080
It's not quite double digits, but pretty significant beyond the margin of error, ended up being wrong.
08:53:54.320
And things aren't so, so bad for the GOP in the House and the Senate.
08:53:59.300
Well, there's not a lot of certainty right now in the presidential race, but there is certainty in one thing, and that's the narrative of a blue wave did not happen.
08:54:06.800
We were assured from President Trump's first day in office there will be a huge blowback.
08:54:12.120
The American people, once they have a chance to go back, they'll show that this was a terrible mistake they made.
08:54:15.960
That simply did not happen, and the clearest evidence of that beyond how close the presidential race is is the Senate.
08:54:22.140
The Republicans are looking like they're going to end when all is said and done.
08:54:25.360
Once we've got runoff elections in Georgia, that's going to be done in January.
08:54:28.120
But when all is said and done, we're probably looking at a 52 majority for Republicans in the Senate.
08:54:33.080
The big takeaway there, if Joe Biden does win and if court packing becomes a serious policy proposition,
08:54:41.500
it's going to be very difficult to get that done with the Senate now in Republican control.
08:54:44.980
That's something that if people are still uneasy, conservatives, uneasy about what's happened with Trump,
08:54:49.060
they can go to bed knowing that they've got Mitch McConnell standing guard, if you will, on his –
08:55:01.220
And the second takeaway Ian brought up is just the way that the media – this is a repudiation of the media.
08:55:05.620
This is people seeing, wait a second, I have been lied to.
08:55:09.100
But for all the Democrat talk of defund the police, defund the media.
08:55:13.340
For the American people at home who are mad about what the media has been preaching them, you get the media you pay for.
08:55:20.860
That's why the whole night I've been thinking, come to the Daily Wire.
08:55:24.300
We're not going to push you through all of that.
08:55:29.440
It's a shameless pitch, but I've been thinking it all night.
08:55:37.620
Cabot, Ian, Bickley, it's been a lot of work, a lot of fun, and a total honor.
08:55:43.400
Guys, tossing it back to you, and we are saying goodnight from the war room.
08:55:49.860
Thanks to everybody in the social media war room and in the writing and data war room.
08:55:54.040
Thank you to Cassie Dillon for her great work tonight.
08:55:56.360
Thank you to you and to Cabot for your terrific pregame show, which went on for three hours this afternoon
08:56:01.480
and I think brought our Daily Wire members a lot of great information.
08:56:09.720
I believe they're supposed to have – what has it been?
08:56:18.460
If those come in and they do not break heavily for Biden, then Trump's in pretty good shape in Wisconsin.
08:56:25.580
Right now he leads by about 100,000 votes in Wisconsin or 9,000 votes in Wisconsin.
08:56:29.660
They're still waiting for some reporting in from Madison and from Milwaukee, but it is
08:56:33.640
way too close for Democrats to feel any sense of comfort in Wisconsin.
08:56:39.280
Wisconsin is a more liberal state than Pennsylvania.
08:56:43.660
I mean that goes well obviously for him in Wisconsin.
08:56:46.060
If Wisconsin – if he's able to maintain Wisconsin, then suddenly he becomes the favorite again.
08:56:51.080
If he maintains Wisconsin, assuming he maintains Georgia, which again is going to be extremely,
08:56:54.900
extremely close, then he becomes the favorite again in the election after having lost Arizona.
08:56:59.840
And that has now been confirmed by several different outlets as having gone –
08:57:03.200
It's actually, I have to say, surprising to me for the president to lose Arizona.
08:57:06.640
Arizona, I've spent some time in Arizona even during COVID, and it's – it seems like
08:57:13.900
I mean, Jeff Flake, Cindy McCain, is that the difference?
08:57:17.960
I think that he really ticked off a lot of people.
08:57:20.320
The suburban area around Phoenix really cut against him.
08:57:22.960
And you saw this in the Kristen Sinema election, right?
08:57:26.920
I mean she had – she's a radical in her younger days.
08:57:29.520
She had the bevy of material for doing kind of crazy things.
08:57:32.340
And she ended up winning that election fairly narrowly.
08:57:35.660
They've lost both Senate seats in the course of the last four years.
08:57:38.200
So that is a state that seems to be trending more in the purple direction or the blue direction,
08:57:41.560
even while Florida seems to be trending more red.
08:57:45.620
The question in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin is were those outliers last time
08:57:50.780
Overall, this is a much, much, much better night for Republicans
08:57:53.900
than I think anybody had a right to expect based on the bad polling data going in.
08:57:57.840
I mean the fact is that the Republicans are going to maintain a Senate majority.
08:58:01.860
And a lot of that has to do with the coattails of President Trump in some of these states.
08:58:06.120
I mean the fact is that Trump winning North Carolina probably pushes Tom Tillis,
08:58:09.900
who outperformed Trump by a couple of points, over the finish line.
08:58:13.480
The fact is that Trump's intervention in some of the states like Iowa,
08:58:18.460
like his late-breaking surge in Iowa, definitely helped Joni Ernst in Iowa.
08:58:23.200
But Susan Collins wildly outperformed in Maine.
08:58:31.020
In the presidential race, Florida, the early expectation by the polls
08:58:43.660
But we're still finding out what exactly is going on.
08:58:46.540
As far as his sort of final speech here, bottom line is this.
08:58:50.060
Like virtually everything else Trump says, it's going to get litigated in court.
08:58:52.720
And all of the talk about whether he won or whether he lost is going to move by the wayside,
08:58:58.340
like much else that he says, I think it'll end up being, I think, more like a tempest in a teapot
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than anything else when it's all said and done.
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And if somebody tells you the election is over at this point,
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that is because they're not being completely honest with you.
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The fact is that until these big numbers come in, Philadelphia has not been counted in Pennsylvania.
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That's going to make a rather large difference, even though Trump has a 700,000-vote advantage.
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Have they not counted anything from Pennsylvania or from Philadelphia?
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They count like half of Philadelphia, a quarter of Philadelphia, something like that.
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So where you are in the state obviously makes a big difference as to what's coming in.
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It's not as though everything is equally proportioned, and so 60% is the same as 100%, right?
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For the first time since 2000, Americans are going to go to bed on election night
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not knowing who has actually won the presidency.
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No matter how you slice it, that is bad for our republic.
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That is bad for people's faith in our institutions, bad for people's faith in our system of government.
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And anytime people have questions, anytime you have a bad night for our system of government,
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So the problem that I see is at this point, even if the president does secure his reelection
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over the next hours or days or weeks, we have lost something important tonight
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to the narrative, to the left, to the way that people perceive it.
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I mean, I think a clean win was on the table for Trump here, right?
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So, I mean, he could have just said, listen, he could have said exactly word for word what Biden said,
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And then when the evidence, I mean, he's the president.
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He can call a presser any time he wants, right?
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I mean, if he says, I'm speaking right now, all the cameras show up.
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So he could easily have done this tomorrow if there was actual evidence of voter fraud pouring in
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or Philadelphia started taking, you know, false votes that were not postmarked or something like that.
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And there will be lawsuits in Pennsylvania, and there probably should be lawsuits in Pennsylvania
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As far as sort of the vote count pause and all of that, and, you know, does that create potential for fraud?
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What I've seen is Allegheny County in Pennsylvania, which is Pittsburgh,
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they paused the vote count because I guess they said they were short on staff.
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In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.
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They didn't know there was an election on tonight.
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In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.
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They just decided they're going to release all vote totals from Milwaukee and the absentees at the same time.
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So they just weren't going to give a continuous update.
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They were just going to release it as a bulk, which, honestly, since I'm not a local election official,
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I don't know how that is supposed to work, to be completely honest with you.
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Right. If there's something illegal there, there are many, many, many, many, many lawyers on the ground.
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Tim Alberta from Washington Post says Wisconsin is going to be very, very tight.
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Bulk of outstanding ballots coming from Milwaukee County.
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Clinton won it by 162,000. Biden currently ahead by 53,000.
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If Biden picks up enough to reach parity with Clinton in 16, they are virtually tied.
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So, wow, everything much too close for comfort, obviously.
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Yeah, I do think, you know, what what Trump was doing and we can I think we all feel a little squeamish, at least, about what he did.
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But what he is doing is setting his own narrative.
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And it is my contention that the left was going to accuse him, whatever they were going to accuse him of.
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And whether he takes the bait or he doesn't take the bait, they were going to push their narrative tomorrow that that Biden Biden had won.
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And Trump decided to to jump on top of that and preempt it.
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You know, we said we weren't going to make predictions and we really didn't make predictions.
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I had a very little bit of money on the election, but I made it a little bit of money because I didn't want to make a big prediction.
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The one election prediction I made is that this would happen.
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The one election prediction I made is that this would go to court.
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And the president has already promised us that it's the old story.
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You know, we wouldn't have gotten this far if you weren't Trump and we wouldn't be sitting here.
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I mean, it's always it's always the same thing with Trump.
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He comes with his his virtues and his flaws in the same package.
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