UNCUT： Charlie Kirk Envisions the Future of Conservatism
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In this episode of the CharlieKirkShow, my pal Charlie Kirk joins me to discuss everything from 2020 politics to Students for Trump to religion, and everything in between. We cover it all on this episode, including: What's the difference between a true conservative and a true liberal? Why is it so important to know who's going to win the 2020 election?
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Hey guys, so my pal Charlie Kirk was coming through L.A.
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and I said you cannot leave L.A. before you come into my studio and hang out for at least half an hour.
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So we covered everything from 2020 politics to Students for Trump to religion and everything in between.
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The guy does everything, and I think he lives on an airplane.
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If you guys want to keep seeing more of this content, let me know,
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and I'll invite more of my friends over when they come through town.
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You are in four cities a day, I think, and you are living on an airplane for the rest of that time.
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I've figured out the metaphysical impossibility of being in more than one place at once.
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You've got to let me know your secret at some point.
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You know, I actually, not to flatter you, but I both want to flatter you and admonish you.
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You're spreading this great message of love of country and liberty and freedom.
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And then you come out with this op-ed in Newsweek that has me very worried because you say that there are these sleeper cells of socialists who could destroy our country.
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And nobody is paying sufficient attention to it.
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And so, I couldn't be a more firm supporter of the president and what he's doing.
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I mean, his policies, his worldview, he's doing unbelievably well.
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Like, he deserves to be convincingly re-elected in a 1972 or 1984 landslide.
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However, he probably won't win in a landslide like that.
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Because I think if the election were held today, he would win 57 states.
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Look, so everywhere I go, people are telling me that Trump's going to win.
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So, when I mean everybody, from reporters to the New York Times to GOP donors, and especially
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the donors, and the equation works like this is, I like Trump, what he's doing, I don't
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Democrats are so radical, therefore, Trump will win re-election.
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You hear this nonstop everywhere you go, right?
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And so, then I say to myself, do I believe that?
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So, then I'm not just going to digest that pablum.
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And I say to myself, first of all, I think he should win, but he's up against a massive
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He's up against a social media conglomeration that will do everything they can to manipulate
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And then finally, from based on what I see anecdotally and what I see in the data, I
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think there are far more people that will embrace radical left-wing ideology than we
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You know, this is what we do at Turning Point USA every single day.
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The most of the college activists that protest you or protest me, you think they're going
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I mean, some might, but they would be out in droves to support Elizabeth Warren and Bernie
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So, I think it's fair to say that if Elizabeth Warren or Sanders gets nominated, someone of
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that, look, there would be boosted turnout amongst younger voters.
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Well, boosted turnout on campus throws off all the voter models.
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One of the main reasons why Hillary Clinton won in 2016 is lower than usual voter turnout.
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But she didn't have a ton of youth voter turnout.
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I think Epstein's going to vote for her this year, actually.
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So, look, I believe that there are people, like there are hidden Trump voters.
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I believe there's hidden socialist voters out there.
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I think this country is way further to the left than we ever realize.
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And we want to admit, just take how many people vote for the Green Party.
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If you add the Green Party plus Hillary Clinton's deficit in Wisconsin, she's president.
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You know, there is this thing that Hemingway described.
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And what Ernest said is, he was describing someone going bankrupt.
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And he said, it happened gradually, then suddenly.
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And I think that's what's happening with radicals.
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This, I think, is what's happening with radicalism.
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More than half of young Americans identify as socialist, even though only about 30% can
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Five years ago, if you had told me that a man can really be a woman, and that most Americans
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And yet, because of the results of a cultural revolution that's going on and on and on these
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days, if you say that a man cannot be a woman, you could be kicked off of social media.
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And I still think Trump is going to win, and I'm going to do everything I can to make sure
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But I don't like all of a sudden taking victory laps 14 months ahead of an election, which
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I figure is if that's the tone of the movement right now.
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I can't go to one place without someone saying that Trump is going to win.
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This is, first of all, there's no way to win, first of all.
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Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, 42 to 1 odds, okay?
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You think you're going to win, and all of a sudden you lose in Tokyo, okay?
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The only one we don't allow on this show is soccer.
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But I guess that's a conversation for another time.
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Yeah, it's let the Europeans figure out how to tie.
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As soon as the NFL brought into tying, they also brought in kneeling.
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Meritocracy culture that the left is trying to create.
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I'm trying to offer some sobriety to our movement.
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First of all, I think the left is going to be more determined than ever than defeat Donald Trump.
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I think there's more socialists on the fringe that are going to show up out of pure hatred to destroy this guy.
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If we're counting on winning because of how bad they are, we're going to lose.
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They're writing the Media Matters hit piece on you.
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That we have to say so boldly and definitively who we are as a country.
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Yeah, and I have the book coming out in February, actually.
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America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
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You don't admit that, you've got some other doctrine.
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If you believe that, you believe in something else.
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But I don't know what it is, but you have to first believe that.
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Number two, you have to believe America has been heading in the wrong direction generally
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Both parties have been equally contributing to this.
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You believe those two things, welcome to the MAGA doctrine.
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Because then you have to believe that if we've been heading in the wrong direction and we
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are the greatest country, then a revitalization is necessary.
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Now, understanding that a revitalization is historically improbable.
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Because we're taught in history class that usually there's the arc of civilizations, right?
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So there's this general upward trajectory, and then you have a little dip, and then you
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have a small resurgence, and then total decline.
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Well, then historians would say the 80s was our resurgence, right?
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So Trump is going up against the historical impossibility to try to fight the endless
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Essentially, Cicero's Rome is really what he's-
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It is what set of policies can I implement that have proven to be timeless in the history
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of civilization to fight back the decay of civilization?
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Number one, strong borders and recognition of sovereignty.
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Declaring war in a country that looks at us silly is the dumbest thing.
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And Trump is doing this spectacularly well overseas.
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But even he's had trouble getting out of Afghanistan, out of Syria.
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Because, look, the permanent military class wants us to be in these endless wars where
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there is- if you can't define victory, why are you engaged in the conflict?
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You ask these five-star generals, well, what does success look like?
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Well, we have to fight them there so we don't fight them here.
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Well, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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I mean, no way could you create a foreign policy around fighting every enemy around the world
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So anyway, the final thing is this, and this is the most important thing, is an unapologetic
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defense of our cultural icons, symbols, values, and traditions.
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So the MAGA doctrine is a revitalization, almost a resuscitation of a country that was
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so going in the wrong direction, cultural decline, economic decline.
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He's defended our core objects and symbols, our flag, our tradition, our symbol.
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That's probably my favorite thing that he's done, is he's actually spoken at a fundamental
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and cultural level about the things that we hold dear as a country, the things that
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we hold sacred together, the flag, our national history, our founding fathers, against a whole
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Let me tell you another thing that he holds near and dear is that we are the best, and we
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There's a hierarchy of nations, and we are the greatest country out there.
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We're the strongest, we're the mightiest, we have the biggest army, but guess what?
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We're also the most generous, the most benevolent, the most creative, most likely to send people
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when there's a hurricane, a tsunami, an earthquake, or a flood, we step up.
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By the way, we're the most charitable country in the history of the world.
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And I think we have to talk in terms of, you know, you and I that really get into the
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nuts and bolts of the philosophy and the economics of all this, I think he doesn't get
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enough credit for what he's actually done philosophically and on the policy side.
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So, and going into 2020, it's going to be a referendum on the idea of America.
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So, a referendum on the idea of America in a sense, are we a nation of victims or a
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And so if Trump frames the debate like this, he will win.
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He will win, I think, decisively and assertively.
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And I think, but recognizing that the country we live today is not the country of 1984, not
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the Orwellian 1984, but the Reagan versus Mondale 1984.
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But so the question is, what kind of election are we headed for?
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The conventional wisdom in Republican circles is, boy, this feels like 1972.
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We're a much different country than we were in 1972.
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We have more kids going to indoctrination factories.
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So the idea that we're going to win a 49-state landslide and we're running against George
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McGovern, who is whatever, or Walter Mondale in 84, I don't accept the premise.
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I mean, you can even look at the Supreme Court confirmations, right?
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When you have Supreme Court nominees of either party being confirmed by virtually unanimous support,
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And then even after Robert Bork, you get a certain, you know, Antonin Scalia enjoyed.
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But the left is the only one that demagogues Supreme Court nominees.
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I mean, Merrick Garland was the only time that a Republican stood up.
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Thank goodness Mitch McConnell did what he did.
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But Mitch McConnell did the correct thing with Merrick Garland.
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But Bork and Kavanaugh, I mean, boy, do they cause trouble.
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And in Clarence Thomas' own words, you know, I mean, this was a modern-day lynching.
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But President Trump, just the other day, he took aim at what we all suspected he was
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taking aim at, was Sean Hannity, who's a friend of his.
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But Hannity was covering for Chris Cuomo on CNN because Cuomo was accosted in public and
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I called him Nero as a joke because, I mean, I would say that if you're an Italian, it'd
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I mean, I would be upset if someone called me Nero.
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I love your Martin Luther thing here, by the way.
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I love a good rebellion against a corrupt institution.
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I want to pay a compliment to, at the expense of the Catholic Church, to the Protestants.
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In this country, the only religious group that reliably votes the right way are the evangelicals.
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I have great respect for the Catholic Church and the Catholic tradition.
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You make a great point because this is my issue with the Catholics in America.
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Half the Catholics in America, they say they're Catholic and yet they support abortion.
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And now these days it's abortion up until the moment of birth.
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The guy in New York, the governor, Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, who allowed for abortion
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up until the moment of birth, nominally is a Catholic.
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Now, that's because they say we're culturally Catholic, whereas you don't see a whole lot
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I call these people chinos, Catholics in name only.
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I mean, you're worried about the socialist sleeper cells.
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I'm worried about even beyond the cultural level at the religious level.
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You've got a whole generation of young Americans who are...
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Well, and they've been raised in a nihilistic culture.
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Is there any hope for America if we don't turn around that religious decline?
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Well, the answer is more complicated than yes or no.
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It's hard to see without a strong religious backbone how this country will continue to
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We take it so for granted, but we are the most diverse country ever to exist in the history
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of the world, and not just racial diversity, but religious diversity.
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I mean, and this is so critically important because when...
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Look, the amount of, whether it be Protestantism or Catholicism or Judaism or Islam or whatever
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If you don't know what a shaman is, look it up.
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And look, I will pay a huge amount of compliment to the Catholic tradition because if it wasn't
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for the Catholics, we obviously wouldn't have the Bible.
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And two of my favorite writers, Aquinas and Augustine, obviously were in the Catholic tradition.
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And I think that we could learn a lot of our foreign policy doctrine from Aquinas to
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And I think that we've strayed away from that and that we've gotten to an offensive war theory.
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But of course, you know, the binary choice of the city of God and the city of man, which
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One was a fan of the other because one came 800 years before the other.
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But anyway, the point being is that to answer your question about America, the role of the
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church and the role of religious institutions is so uniquely American because Europe has
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turned their back on voluntary social construct institutions.
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So instead, they go to compulsory social construct institutions, government, bureaucracy.
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And so just from a charitable standpoint, as the church decreases in its role and stature
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in America, it contributes to a moral decline and where the church is at its best is being
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able to distill really hard cultural issues and take definitive stances on them.
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I mean, people like to say the alliance of Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, but people
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There was John Paul II, who was also a huge anti-communist.
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And when he went to Poland, I mean, he helped sow the seeds of the end of the Soviet empire.
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Open air mass, million people, and they chant, we want God.
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He was a freedom-fighting pope and he gets no credit for it.
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And importantly, too, he wrote about the evils of socialism.
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And he wrote in a famous encyclical, Centesi Musanus, he wrote about free markets, open markets.
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And Leo XIII, another great pope, called socialism a wicked confederacy, called them pests, said
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it was inhuman, said that it must be utterly resisted.
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And yet, these days, from some Catholic leaders and some other Protestant leaders, you've seen
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embrace an idea that Jesus was some kind of hippie socialist.
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And this is something that I'm going to take on more and more personally in a couple projects.
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And I'm an evangelical, so we have church service more than an hour.
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Yeah, when I go to the Latin ones, those go on.
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If it goes more than seven minutes, there's an uprising.
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I have great respect for the Catholic tradition.
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But anyway, I travel a lot, and I'll go to a lot of different Protestant churches.
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In my church selection, go figure, I find more intimacy in mega churches.
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The best place to feel, you know, the most lonely place in the world, the most connected
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And so I love the lights, and I love the praise.
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The Hillsong music, the Bethel music, all for it.
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Isn't that Hillsong guy like an atheist now or something?
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But look, so I'll go and I'll mingle afterwards, and I'll tell you, Michael, the young churchgoers,
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there's a lot of left-wingers and a lot of socialists that are amongst this evangelical
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And this is really, really, really concerning because it is the corruption of theology for
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And so I like to say I go to, I grew up in the Presbyterian church, and I grew up in the
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And I get them confused, but one of them's super liberal, and one of them's pretty good.
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And so I went five years ago, and I felt like I was watching Rachel Maddow with organ music.
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It was like watching MSNBC, you know, while in between scripture readings, where they would
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say all political stuff, basically, you know, we have to pray for our country and this horrible
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And then they would use theology and scripture to justify that.
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You know, I do have a little bit of hope on this, though, because I agree.
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I was raised in the Catholic Church, which became very left-wing, openly left-wing, especially
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And you had a watering down of the liturgy, and you had a lot of kind of feel-good stuff.
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The theologian Reinhold Niebuhr described it as a God without wrath leading a people without
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Through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.
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And this kind of soapy religion, I think, chased a lot of people away.
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Now, when I go to church, because a lot of Catholic masses are like 45 minutes, 50 minutes.
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And when I go into those, I find it's the blue hairs.
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A lot of people aren't going to the sacraments.
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It's the priest is telling jokes like a ham actor.
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There's a real encouragement of the sacraments.
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It's the average age is probably 25, and somehow they've all got 10 kids already.
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I don't know how that, mathematically, I don't even know how that works.
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This seems to me that there is, at least at a small level, this longing among young people for reality.
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And, you know, you go to these college campuses, I go to college campuses.
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I gave a talk at University of Missouri, Kansas City.
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Because in a culture that's gone mad with fantasy, with delusion, with saccharine sentiment,
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people long for the simple statement of reality.
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You know, I think Trump does this very well, too.
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And so, to the other point about kind of the, this is something that we have to encounter head-on,
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is within our own Christian ranks, and the Catholic Church has already gone through this,
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and I think it's actually coming back, but the evangelical ranks, we have not lived through this yet.
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And we're starting to see it through some fights in the Southern Baptist Convention.
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We're seeing it through others where it's becoming left, it's becoming very leftist.
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And there's open conversations like, well, Jesus was a socialist.
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And you and I could talk at length about this parable of the talents.
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It's just minor theological differences in details.
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But, I mean, even the scene when he chastises his followers for criticizing his having expensive perfume put on them.
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I mean, just that scene alone should dismiss this silly, modern, Marxist view of hippie socialist Jesus.
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Well, he was also speaking individuals helping individuals, and the individual's pathway to the salvation.
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So, what gets misconstrued, not misconstrued, I think it's actually because they intentionally misinterpret the theology because you actually go back, if you read John, for example, go back to the original Greek, there's no way you could possibly interpret it as such.
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Where the left will try to say, well, Jesus was talking in terms of collective and all this.
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So, the good Samaritan, you have to go outside of your comfort zone to help somebody that you might not want to help.
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Like, that's, it's not go call DHS and they're going to, you know, come and some bureaucrat's going to go do good for you.
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Or, I don't, I must have missed the parable or I must have missed the part in the gospel where Jesus said, you know, go form a government bureaucracy and, you know, have a committee that meets from nine to five every day.
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Pool your resources in a widely inefficient way.
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You know, it occurs to me, you're speaking obviously very in religious terms and this is traditional for conservatives, especially in that post-war conservative movement.
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You had the libertarians, the traditionalists, the religious right.
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They were all against this common enemy which was the Soviet Union.
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What does the conservative movement look like now?
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That's why Reagan was able to build this coalition in 1980 and take over the party that he wasn't supposed to ever be at the nominee of.
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I mean, in 76, Reagan tried to overthrow sitting President Gerald Ford in 1976 and he got to the convention floor and sort of half endorsed him, didn't really endorse him.
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But Reagan was a rebel and the reason why people thought Reagan was going to lose in a landslide to Jimmy Carter and he won surprisingly.
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And then all of a sudden, he was the one that crushed the Soviet Union.
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The Soviet Union is no longer headquartered in Moscow.
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They're in Montana, Michigan, Mississippi, and Missouri.
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So, look, the coalition that we have to build, though, that Reagan got correct and Trump gets correct.
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And I feel that our movement gets wrong so often is we have to break, and you understand this, we have to break our shackles away from these coastal elitist universities and these think tanks that think that if you're a carpenter, a pipe fitter, or you didn't go to four-year college, you're somehow less than worthy to be engaged in the American conversation.
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And I feel as if there's this elitism that permeates our movement, where all of a sudden that if you didn't go to the correct university in the upper northeast corridor, any opinion you have is what?
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It's also an emperor has no clothes situation because having gone to one of those correct universities in the northeast corridor.
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But, you know, having gone there, I can kind of see what's happened to it, what the left has done to these universities, which is to hollow them out from within.
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So it's not to say that there's nothing to be gained at any of these places, but what it is to say is the institution that's hobbling around and it looks like Harvard or Yale and it talks like Harvard or Yale, it isn't what it used to be.
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The left has gone on a long march through the institutions.
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And so what you are getting in the end is something that's simply not as academically serious, scholarly, scholarly rigorous.
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You're not getting that same quality of education.
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And so you have whole generations who are uneducated, uncultured, and they're so damn convinced that they're the smartest people in the world.
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So they have all the degrees, but they know nothing.
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So they're in debt, they're vulnerable, and they have degrees up the wazoo, and there's no wisdom, there's no knowledge, there's no history, no perspective.
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They're constantly wrong, but they're never in doubt.
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So look, here's what the movement moving forward is.
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Number one, we have to dominate in the libertarians.
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I know you and I might not see eye to eye in all this, but that's okay.
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Do we need to hold together the exact same coalition?
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And so my coalition is, number one, I think we have to, libertarians, I think those are ours to get.
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These guys hate government, personal freedom, and there's robust conversations we can have about all that sort of stuff.
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There's stuff that we should not compromise on.
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So, like, a pro-choice libertarian, sorry, not going to happen, right?
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But, like, if you want to go put some substance in your body that I've never done and I don't even know where to find, go ahead.
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Number two is any sort of person that has religion as a core part of their day or their life.
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Number three, the other part of the coalition, is people that wake up before 7 a.m.
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Every human being in America that wakes up before 7 a.m. should be a Republican.
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And then we should limit the vote to be over at about 8 a.m., and then we win.
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And I say that somewhat jokingly, but if you're getting up early and you've got to really muster some strength to go to work, you're one of us.
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I don't care if you're a carpenter, a teacher, a pipe fitter.
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But I'm talking about the 50,000 teachers in Missouri that we've never talked to, and they're working their tail off, right?
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So if you're waking up early and you've got to really fight and you've got to—you're our people.
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I want our party to be the hard-work nation party.
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The final thing is the doctrinaire conservatives.
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And there's about 8 or 10 million of these people, and they're the ones that listen to Ben, they listen to Rush, and, you know, they're the Tea Party folks.
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If you combine libertarians, which our generation is coming in Greece and libertarian, religious, hardworking conservatives, that's 65 million people.
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Let them go after all the people that sleep until 10 and do whatever the hell they want.
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Like, I don't want to build a—let me make myself go.
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I don't, like, I don't want to build a political party around people that sleep all day and do nothing.
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I mean, they're not really reliable when you need to go out and knock on doors and hand out bomb cards.
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That's a movement, I think, that can have robust debate and can be one that can win the future and make our country a better place.
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First, looking at 2020, it looks to me there are three big vulnerabilities.
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One is that Hillary Clinton is a uniquely detestable candidate.
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And so if even someone like Joe Biden, who I think is a total doofus, even he is like, I don't know, he's Elvis Presley compared to Hillary Clinton.
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Obviously, we're engaged in a tough trade war with China right now.
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There is the prospect that the economy falters.
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Though there may be because of that Supreme Court decision that allowed for 100 miles that might get some of it built before 2020.
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But if the economy tanks, I still think Trump can win.
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And so, look, we have a community of economic hypochondriacs.
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Where these people are trying to convince themselves that there's a recession.
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And so, you know what the problem with hypochondriacs are?
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Eventually, you're going to get sick because you're trying to get sick.
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And at least, eventually, you're going to be right.
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Finally, the 95th time, you actually might have the flu.
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But here's the thing is, the funny thing about recessions is you can talk yourself into a
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I mean, remember, if you read von Mises' human action, I mean, that's all the economy is.
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It's multi-trillions inputs of human action put into one thing that we call the economy.
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But all of a sudden, you have 10 million people that change their behavior.
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Then all of a sudden, you can create a recession.
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They're trying to propagandize the American public to create a recession ahead of this.
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I mean, Bill Maher said it would be worth a recession-
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He wants to see people that wake up over 7 a.m. in Idaho and in Illinois, he wants to see
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So that he can make sure that he can be right at a cocktail party.
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For Bill Maher out there, he would be fine in a recession.
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People will keep coming to his stupid comedy routine.
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The people that Donald Trump, who has made their lives better.
00:33:59.420
And so, look, I don't think- there might be an economic slowdown.
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Look, I think that the bigger- I think there's, of course- I think the left is going to try
00:34:09.280
And I think China is going to heavily try to interfere with this election.
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So, look, I think China, through their proxies, through North Korea, through any sort of way
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that they can jab at Trump and make him look- not in reality, but make him look wrong,
00:34:22.280
You think that Russia interfered in our election through a couple troll farms?
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Just wait till you see what China is going to try to do.
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And, you know, historically speaking, this is something the left doesn't understand.
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Throughout the Cold War, we would play China off Russia and Russia off of China.
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And so, when Russia was the big threat, we would maybe open up China, go play some ping-pong
00:34:40.440
Now, it would seem that China is the bigger threat.
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We might play Russia off of China, and yet then we're told-
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These people have been Russian dubs for a hundred years.
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And they've never apologized for their support of the Soviet Union.
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I mean, but ever since the Russian Revolution, a hundred years ago, they've been telling us
00:34:58.880
And now the one time that Russia is actually a de-emphasized role.
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Now, Russia- I mean, if you actually look at the Russian model right now, they have an
00:35:15.620
They just produce those dolls inside the little dolls inside the little dolls, I think.
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And they're less of a threat than they ever have been.
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But now, all of a sudden, they're the Russia hawks?
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Meanwhile, you have China, who is cheating on our trade deals, who's illegally subsidizing-
00:35:34.920
They're about to mow down Hong Kong protesters.
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Yeah, who's on the verge of mow down Hong Kong.
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You notice how quiet the left is when China locks up Muslims in concentration camps?
00:35:45.840
Well, because they're not in Arizona, so they don't-
00:35:49.540
But the other thing that's really interesting about-
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First, they tried to say, well, it's the Russian collusion.
00:35:58.100
And they tried the racism stuff, and that didn't work.
00:36:04.860
The thing that is so improbable at the Trump presidency is his ability to withstand adversity.
00:36:10.120
I mean, if you and I were doing this show eight months ago, all we'd be talking about
00:36:18.620
I mean, all we talked about is Bob Mueller for two freaking years.
00:36:26.520
Like, all she talked about was Bob Mueller for two years.
00:36:28.720
Because they couldn't remember his own name at that congressional testimony, so now it's over.
00:36:32.340
We are so bad at this as conservatives, because we're filled with the Holy Spirit, and we
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believe in mercy, forgiveness, atonement, and all these great things.
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We should seek revenge for them for what they've done to us.
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I'm having a very serious, you know, human and divine struggle here, because I should
00:37:08.900
There's going to be a horse head and somebody's-
00:37:10.800
I need to know your, speaking of horses, your horse race bets on the 2020 Democrats.
00:37:32.980
Number one thing they want, they want to beat Donald Trump.
00:37:34.440
That's the only reason why Biden was up in the polls.
00:37:36.600
Warren is surging because she's starting to make the argument that she can beat Donald Trump.
00:37:46.180
She's not like Marianne Williamson angry where she's off on some sort of extraterrestrial-
00:37:53.960
You don't really understand what I'm saying, but if you understood it, then go to MarianneWilliamson.com
00:38:05.840
So, but the other thing is that she gets, she's more populist and has more grassroots
00:38:12.880
energy than most of the other Democrats, and I think that will prove to be very valuable.
00:38:16.760
It's amazing that a Harvard law professor, the whitest woman to ever live who pretends
00:38:21.140
to be an Indian for 30 years, she, and I agree with you, she genuinely does have a more
00:38:26.620
She legit, and I think Bernie will fade away, and I think Bernie will name her as the heir
00:38:50.520
If they nominated Pete Boot edge edge, if they nominated Robert Francis O'Rourke, every
00:39:02.140
But look, you have to take all of them seriously is what I'm saying.
00:39:04.660
And I say this as probably one of the most loyal living human beings to Donald Trump.
00:39:11.520
And I'm as loyal as it gets, but I'm also trying to be honest with the followers and the
00:39:23.000
And if we begin for a micron to underestimate the left, oh my goodness, forget about it.
00:39:27.480
Like, for instance, if we think that Elizabeth Warren gave us something, she would take it
00:39:31.880
I don't remember what the term is for that, but she would do it.
00:39:36.240
Now, you're out there fighting hard every single day.
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First of all, everyone should buy a leftist tears mug.
00:39:53.800
Number one, you can go to Charlie Kirkshaw on Apple Podcasts.
00:39:56.580
Please press subscribe if you like what you have to hear.
00:40:00.660
Number two, we have our Turning Point USA event in December.
00:40:05.340
We'll have thousands and thousands of students.
00:40:12.360
And look, we're on the front lines of the culture war.
00:40:14.960
And I'm also running Students for Trump, which is a non-Turning Point USA thing.
00:40:23.980
That was a disclaimer for all the lawyers out there.
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For all the people, all the Media Matters trolls.
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But look, we got to get this president reelected.
00:40:33.760
In our lifetime, there's going to be moments where, like, this is where we either saved
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And remember, you hear, well, this is the most important election of our lifetime.
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Do you know why you're able to say that each time?
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Because we get further and further away from our founding vision.
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And that's why it's so important we win this election.
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And thank you for your compliments towards our president.
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