The Michael Knowles Show - May 29, 2021


What Happened to Liz Wheeler？


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

199.76741

Word Count

5,497

Sentence Count

405

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Liz Wheeler has a new show on the air, The Liz Wheeler Show, where she talks about everything under the sun, including UFO abductions and the disappearance of Liz's best friend and former TV host, Lizzie Borden.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Michael here. You know, I just sat down with my very good friend, Liz Wheeler.
00:00:04.740 You probably know Liz Wheeler from her TV show that she hosted for a very long time. Then she
00:00:08.880 disappeared. Where did she go? Well, she went out and had a kid. Now she is back. She's got a great
00:00:15.160 new show, The Liz Wheeler Show. We talked about everything under the sun and this new project
00:00:19.380 she's working on. Take a listen. If you are anything like me, you miss Liz Wheeler. I have
00:00:33.460 missed my friend, Liz Wheeler, lo these many months. And I, you know, I actually got to see her. I don't
00:00:41.240 know. I'm not, not that long ago. You probably have not seen her in quite a while. Where has she gone?
00:00:47.220 Was she abducted by the UFOs that we're told are soaring through our skies? We have the answers
00:00:53.480 right now. Liz Wheeler joining the show. Liz, thank you for being here. Michael, thank you so much. It
00:00:59.540 wasn't the UFOs actually. It was a combined effort from the woke CIA and the Russian intelligence
00:01:05.260 service that got me. I want to get into them. I want to get into them a little bit later because
00:01:09.340 you, I guess you have some serious insight here and I'm really scarred having watched those recent
00:01:14.100 commercials. But you were, you were hosting a TV show, the bell of the ball, the talk of the town.
00:01:21.000 You were everywhere in public, anywhere I would go, I would see you. And then you disappeared.
00:01:26.840 What happened? Well, as you know, I was hosting a TV show and I then had a baby. It's actually,
00:01:34.600 so our babies, by the way, I believe were born two days apart, right? That's right.
00:01:38.040 Two days apart, our babies were born. They're now betrothed, I think.
00:01:40.900 A little arranged marriage between our children. See, yeah, this is the difference. So I stopped
00:01:45.700 to have a baby, gave birth. My body's amazing. This, my new show, which I think we're going to
00:01:51.700 talk about, has been in the works the whole time. So behind the scenes during pregnancy. And I took
00:01:57.060 a brief eight hour break during labor and delivery to stop planning the new show. But it's been in
00:02:02.120 the works since, for over a year now, it's been in the works. Really, really excited to get it going.
00:02:06.800 Liz, can I confirm this phrase, my body is amazing? Is that the tagline of the show? The
00:02:13.260 Liz Wheeler show, my body is amazing? Because that was going to be my tagline when we launched this
00:02:17.180 show. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's, but it actually is amazing. You were hosting the show. You
00:02:23.120 were quite pregnant while you were hosting the TV show. Eventually, you know, it's time to get ready,
00:02:29.180 have the kid, spend a little bit of time with your kid, you know, and now you're,
00:02:32.600 you're moving into this great new venture. I have long thought that you should go digital. I've long
00:02:38.960 thought that you, you know, you would be just great manning a podcast. You're terrific on research.
00:02:45.260 You're terrific on opinion. And if I, if I repeat your line, if I say your body's amazing, then I'm
00:02:51.100 going to get in trouble with my wife. So I'm going to leave that aside for the moment. But seriously,
00:02:54.960 this has been a long time in the making and the show is just out.
00:02:59.220 Yes. Yes. This is what I've wanted to do for a really long time. And it's sort of the natural
00:03:04.580 next step, right? It's the natural next step because the conservative movement as a whole
00:03:09.000 is craving bold leadership. You know, the last, the last four, five, six years have shown us that.
00:03:15.100 And it's not just bold leadership in politics. They crave bold leadership in their thought leaders,
00:03:19.780 in their news, in their media, in their opinion, in their research. They want somebody who isn't going
00:03:25.520 to back down to corporate wokeism or cultural Marxism or teachers unions or AOC or big tech or
00:03:32.260 leftists in Congress or mask mandates, what have you. And that's what we're going to do on the Liz
00:03:38.280 Wheeler show, right? It's a more personal connection than I've ever had before with my audience, which
00:03:43.260 is great. I've been wanting to do that for a really long time. It's a more personal connection.
00:03:47.680 We are going to provide my sort of trademark research, deep dive into all these topics,
00:03:52.660 make sure that the facts are in order and then draw conclusions from the facts, meaning offer my
00:03:58.140 opinion on what we should do based on the reality. That's the other part of my show that I think is
00:04:03.100 really important and different than anybody else's. We're sort of in this era that we're beyond the
00:04:08.180 question of, is this true and is this false? We're beyond an argument about whether someone's lying or
00:04:14.700 whether someone's being honest. We are now in a point where we're defending reality, where we have to
00:04:19.380 be champions of reality because what the left is offering us isn't just lies. It isn't just
00:04:24.280 ignorance. It's outright delusion. So on the Liz Wheeler show, we're going to do it all. It's a more
00:04:28.820 personal connection. We're going to provide the research. We're going to hold politicians
00:04:32.660 accountable. We are going to play offense in this culture war because politics is downstream of
00:04:37.740 culture. If we lose the culture, don't even bother playing politics, right? And I mean, it's going to be
00:04:42.900 great. I'm so excited. So this point you've hit on is very important. The reality issue because
00:04:49.980 obviously two different sides in a body politic can have different visions of where to go. And
00:04:57.800 to some degree, people are always going to be interpreting the world in perhaps slightly
00:05:02.500 different ways. They're going to see things from a different angle. But what we're seeing now from the
00:05:06.640 modern left is a little more than that. It's not just, well, you see it this way and I see it that way.
00:05:12.260 It is, you see it this way and I deny objective truth. And you see it this way and I think that
00:05:18.460 actually reality can just be constructed by whatever words that I use or fantasies that I have. And I
00:05:24.720 don't think I'm straw manning the argument here. I think that is the explicit claim of many of the
00:05:29.640 leftist ideologies that developed in the 20th century. So how are we supposed to fight that?
00:05:34.440 If we fight that with facts and logic, they're going to say, who cares about your facts and logic?
00:05:38.520 Well, it's actually worse than that. It's not just a matter of this is objective truth.
00:05:42.240 Which is reality. And the left wants to deny that reality. They then want to force you to
00:05:48.180 abandon reality and force you to echo their delusion. So we're even a step further than just,
00:05:52.900 okay, you want to pretend you're Santa Claus? Like, go for it. You can deny reality. No one cares
00:05:56.620 what you're doing. It's when they try to impose that on us. But I mean, conservatives in general
00:06:02.020 have a good fighting spirit, right? We're happy warriors. However, we are conservatives. The name
00:06:07.280 conservative implies that we are trying to conserve something, that we are playing defense. And I think
00:06:11.060 that that in general has been a tactical error against this adversary and this adversary being
00:06:16.800 the radical left. We've played defense for so long. So since the 1960s, you know, we've lost control of
00:06:22.720 many of the institutions that form the backbone of our moral society, right? Whether it's the family,
00:06:27.940 whether it's traditional marriage, whether it's the public school system, whether it's Hollywood,
00:06:31.440 movies, books, entertainment, music. We have surrendered these institutions to the left because we
00:06:37.360 haven't played offense. We've tried to play defense and we've ended up sort of defending the one yard
00:06:42.280 line and acquiescing inch by inch until, you know, we topple over into the other team's end zone here.
00:06:49.640 And we can't be playing like that anymore. We have to be actively fighting back. We have to identify
00:06:54.300 these dangerous things, this ideology that the left is trying to impose on us through our culture,
00:07:00.220 through our schools, through our government. And we have to deconstruct that and reclaim our country.
00:07:04.760 You know, I totally agree. And the fact that we've lost the institutions, notably the universities,
00:07:10.120 is really awful. What drives me crazy though, with these conservatives is they will, they'll,
00:07:15.840 out of one side of their mouth, they'll say, we've lost to the radical neo-Marxists. They've taken over,
00:07:22.200 they're poisoning our children's minds. And then out of the other side of their mouth, they'll say,
00:07:25.820 and because of academic freedom, we can never kick them out of the schools.
00:07:29.120 And you say, wait, hold on. Wait, what would you, well, they're, these guys, they're spreading lies.
00:07:34.620 They're undermining our students' understanding of reason and truth. But because of freedom of
00:07:40.160 speech, we can never tell them that they shouldn't say that. And you say, well, guys, are you serious
00:07:44.240 or not? Are you actually, are you going to go in there and boot out the wackos? I'm thinking of
00:07:49.880 Nicole Hannah-Jones, this 1619 Project fabulist. She's not a journalist. She's a fabulist
00:07:56.360 whose central thesis was, was wrong. It was based on a lie. She doesn't have a, it was wrong.
00:08:02.040 And she admitted it was wrong. The Times admitted it was wrong. She doesn't have a PhD. She, which
00:08:07.240 is, you know, if you're going to get a tenure track job, I'm not one for credentialism, but
00:08:11.140 people have PhDs if you get tenure track. She's denied this. And there, there have actually been
00:08:15.700 some squishes on the right coming to her defense and saying this woman should have been at UNC.
00:08:21.880 With fighters like that, you know, who needs leftists?
00:08:25.120 Well, right. I mean, that's, that's part of what we're going to do on the show is, I mean,
00:08:28.800 not only do we not have room for squishes and radical leftists and cultural Marxists,
00:08:33.660 we don't have room for squish Republicans either. You know, if you don't have that fire in your belly
00:08:37.720 to not just stand and defend verbally what you believe, but actually identify the threats to our
00:08:44.440 cultural institutions and say, okay, if you're going to violate our freedom, we're going to vote you out.
00:08:49.260 If you're going to stifle a student's free speech, we're going to, you know, levy a campaign
00:08:54.420 to make sure you're not the president of the university anymore. If you're not ready to go
00:08:57.780 on offense, then, you know, it's fine. Some people just don't have that in them. I'm not trying to
00:09:01.920 say that everyone has to be on the, be a culture warrior on the forefront of each one of these
00:09:05.940 battlefronts. But if you don't just have the humility to admit that and step aside and let those
00:09:10.000 of us who do have that fire in our belly fight this fight, because I mean, Michael, this is what you
00:09:13.980 and I do. Yeah, I certainly think so. I mean, you know, look, I, I want to say in all humility for
00:09:20.540 anyone who's in politics or media, that it's not the same thing as going out and taking bullets.
00:09:25.680 You know, it's not the same thing as going out and fighting literal wars. However, I just watched
00:09:31.020 what you alluded to at the beginning. I just watched an ad from the CIA. CIA was this woman. She says,
00:09:36.820 I'm a intersectional Latina, proud feminist woman. I said, what the hell? This is what James Bond
00:09:44.580 became. And then I saw there was an ad for the army and the army ad, it was this woman who says,
00:09:49.860 you know, I was raised at the pride parades of my lesbian mothers and that's how I'm going to fight
00:09:55.920 the wars. And I think, but what, you know, Putin, are you just, are you listening? Are you just going
00:10:00.120 to invade now? Are you going to come right across the Bering Strait or something? And then actually it
00:10:04.660 was juxtaposed with an ad from the Russian army. And it was these macho men like,
00:10:09.420 they're all holding guns and firing. And I think, do they know what the purpose of a,
00:10:15.960 of a military is? Well, I'm, I'm pretty sure that Putin's not laughing at that CIA ad. I'm
00:10:23.000 pretty sure Putin wrote that CIA ad. Because if I were our adversaries, I mean, if I were Putin,
00:10:28.860 I would give his whole intelligence community the day off because they're not going to need to come,
00:10:32.620 they're not going to need to come fully prepared to defeat that kind of CIA.
00:10:35.820 Well, I, you know, I, I was wondering with the, I mean, you're, you're probably right. It's all,
00:10:39.680 it's all a big op from, you know, the Kremlin or something or China, but assuming that, look,
00:10:46.480 we can laugh at these ads. These ads are really terrible and it's, it makes you feel sort of ashamed
00:10:52.260 that this is where we're putting our priorities and our resources here in promoting.
00:10:56.180 And our tax money and our, and our tax dollars. Uh, but you know, some of the brass in the
00:11:02.220 military, some of the top dogs in the CIA, they approved this stuff. They think that this is going
00:11:10.240 to serve America's national security interests. They might have perverse views of it, but what is,
00:11:15.800 what is the thought process here? I mean, what, what on earth would possess our,
00:11:20.240 our military to, to put out this image to the world? Well, I think we've heard that if you
00:11:26.340 listen very closely to what these radical leftists that Joe Biden has surrounded himself with are
00:11:30.880 saying, they don't define words with reality anymore. They define words with delusion. So you
00:11:36.720 and I think national security interests, and we think, okay, well, we want to make sure that our life,
00:11:41.000 liberty, and our ability to pursue happiness is secured. We want to make sure that physically we're
00:11:44.880 safe. We want to make sure our adversaries are at bay, et cetera, et cetera. No, they,
00:11:48.840 they look at our country and they say, racism is a public health crisis. Yeah. So, okay. Okay.
00:11:56.580 Racism is a public health crisis. So first of all, it's, it can be argued. And I would argue that
00:12:00.860 racism is not, is not institutional. We actually don't have systemic racism in our nation anymore.
00:12:05.600 We have advanced beyond that. We have fought that we have defeated it. Sure. There's instances of
00:12:10.220 individual racism, which should always be condemned. And there is, there is institutional racism in the
00:12:16.780 form of affirmative action, right? That's a, that's a law in this country through institutions
00:12:21.740 that says that Asian and white students are at a disadvantage and black and Hispanic students are
00:12:26.520 at an advantage. That's not what they're talking about though. No, that's not what they're talking
00:12:30.400 about. That's not what they're talking about. Although that is true when it comes to Asian American
00:12:33.900 students trying to get into the Ivy League schools, especially your alma mater, I believe.
00:12:39.100 Yeah. But no, I mean, it's, it's completely nuts when they redefine these things. So now we're
00:12:44.000 talking about a public health emergency and they're saying racism is a public health emergency or
00:12:50.840 climate change is a national security threat. I mean, they are trying to erase reality and replace
00:12:56.060 it with their delusion. And we, again, we can't just say, oh, you're nutty and laugh at them. We should
00:13:01.720 because they're eminently ridiculous. Of course we should laugh at them, but we should also identify,
00:13:06.680 well, who exactly is approving this? Is this something that's coming from the White House?
00:13:10.280 Is this something that's coming from a certain, you know, administrative agency? Is this something
00:13:14.280 that's approved on what level of the military or where in the CIA? We should identify where this
00:13:18.820 is coming so that the people, the American people, this isn't even a split along party lines.
00:13:24.680 This is not a Republican versus a Democrat issue. This is a thinking person versus a nutty person
00:13:29.960 viewpoint. Most of our country think that this woke crap, excuse my French, is garbage.
00:13:35.940 Most people, it doesn't matter if you're a Democrat, they still think that there are only
00:13:39.800 two genders. They still think that the CIA and the military should be fighting forces,
00:13:43.880 not cisgender, intersectional, feminist, Black Lives Matter t-shirt wearing, you know, nut jobs,
00:13:49.520 right? So, I mean, it's a matter of saying, okay, this is reality. Please join us on the side and
00:13:54.300 let's make sure that those who are perpetuating delusion don't have the power to do so anymore.
00:13:58.640 But why is it, I agree with all that. Why is it that the institutions,
00:14:03.960 you know, not just some blue haired lunatic on some, you know, middle tier college campus,
00:14:09.240 but the actual corporations, the bureaucracy, the administrative government, whatever,
00:14:16.520 why are they adopting? What is the interest of Coca-Cola or Delta in adopting the crazy woke
00:14:24.320 ideology of some stoner freshman at Wesleyan?
00:14:28.880 Well, Delta, I think it's obvious, right? Weren't they getting tax breaks? And weren't
00:14:33.420 there tax breaks? Weren't they getting special treatment via crony capitalism? And wasn't that
00:14:37.600 threatened given the current administration? I mean, sometimes those who run these corporations
00:14:42.460 are just individually woke, right? Sometimes their workforce is woke and their workforce puts
00:14:46.680 pressure on them. Sometimes, and this I believe, I would speculate, is more often the case. Sometimes
00:14:52.700 they have political interests that are benefiting their business that are threatened if they don't
00:14:58.120 count out to what the politicians who have control over those benefits want, right? And like I said,
00:15:03.240 Delta is a perfect example of that. They didn't want to lose their tax breaks. So they, so they decided
00:15:08.320 to go woke. I don't know if that's going to help their business or not. In the case of Nike, I believe
00:15:12.000 it did help their business. Delta, I hope it doesn't.
00:15:14.700 Yeah, I certainly hope it does. Or woke a cola or any of the other ones. It's just so strange
00:15:20.380 because the other day, some wacko posted and said that the American university is a right-wing
00:15:28.420 institution. And in a sense, you know, I think of myself as a conservative. So I want to, I'm not
00:15:34.720 inherently opposed to institutions or, you know, obviously not to traditions and rituals, but it just
00:15:42.020 seems like all the power centers in the country, it's, you know, big business. How, for how long
00:15:47.340 did Republicans shill for big business? But they're opposed to what we want to do. The CIA, gosh, how
00:15:53.580 long did the Republicans defend the CIA? The CIA seems as leftist as it gets now. The FBI seems to
00:15:59.500 have been infiltrated as well. So to what degree are we conservatives actually trying not to conserve
00:16:07.760 what's going on right now? Are we trying to actually change things? Right. Well, this is,
00:16:12.520 this is a good point. And we talk about this on episodes of my show this week. We talk about the
00:16:16.220 administrative state because Donald Trump famously came to Washington, D.C. promising to drain the
00:16:20.080 swamp, right? That was a message that appealed across the, across the political aisle. Republicans
00:16:24.920 and Democrats wanted politicians who'd been in office for too long, who were slimy and dishonest and
00:16:30.040 just benefiting themselves to be fired, to be kicked out of Washington, D.C., to no longer be in power.
00:16:34.540 Donald Trump promised to do that. And he promised to do that in good faith. And he did his best to
00:16:38.240 a certain extent. The problem is it's not something that one person, no matter if they're the president
00:16:42.980 of the United States, can get rid of. And you have to look at why. You have to travel back in history
00:16:46.860 and say, well, where did we get this idea of these bloated administrative agencies packed with
00:16:52.880 powerful bureaucrats who are among the highest paid bureaucrats in the entire federal government,
00:16:58.260 meaning Anthony Fauci has paid more than the president of the United States. He's the highest paid federal
00:17:02.500 employee out of all four million federal employees. No joke. You can look this research up yourself.
00:17:07.880 We have to ask ourselves, where did this come from? And the answer is twofold. First of all,
00:17:12.260 it came from a Congress who allowed, who legislated their own power away from them. They don't want to
00:17:17.380 take responsibility for making rules. So they pass these vague laws and leave it, leave the rulemaking,
00:17:23.840 meaning defining the vagueness in the legislation that Congress passes. They leave that. They defer to
00:17:28.680 these administrative agencies who then have this power that should be conserved just for the
00:17:33.520 legislature. Right? So that's the first thing. Congress is cowardly. They don't want to take a
00:17:38.040 stance on anything. And so they defer to federal agencies. The second thing is we allowed throughout
00:17:43.300 the last hundred years, you know, from Woodrow Wilson to LBJ to FDR, we allowed the federal government
00:17:49.220 to become this bloated apparatus. We allowed Supreme Court precedents that didn't defer to administrative
00:17:54.520 agencies to now defer to administrative agencies. And so to get rid of this in order to actually drain
00:18:00.060 the swamp, we have to undo the damage that has been done in the last hundred years. That's not
00:18:04.240 playing defense, Michael. That's playing offense. Republicans must go on offense and actively
00:18:08.720 unravel and unwind so that we can recover and reclaim that which made our idea of limited government
00:18:15.400 great. I love it. You know, you brought up this great point, too, of how a lot of these issues are
00:18:21.180 not exactly Republican versus Democrat, left versus right. There seems to be this,
00:18:25.560 just this ruling class. There's like the ruling class party. And then there are the people who are
00:18:31.240 not exactly the ruling class. And you see it play out in the divide between, say, Liz Cheney and
00:18:37.740 the Republicans. You know, Liz Cheney seemed, and look, a lot of her voting record was fairly
00:18:43.720 conservative, but really when it counted on important political issues, she would side with the liberal
00:18:49.960 ruling class. And then even more offensively, she would spend a lot of her time just attacking
00:18:55.400 Republicans. And where would she attack Republicans? In the dominant ruling class newspapers,
00:19:01.060 in the Washington Post, on the mainstream news networks, at CNN, wherever. Now, obviously,
00:19:07.020 Republicans booted Liz Cheney out finally. It took them long enough. But if the Republicans can't even
00:19:12.700 get their house in order, if the conservatives don't even control the Republican party, the one
00:19:17.880 putatively conservative party in the country, then what hope is there for us?
00:19:23.540 Well, that's the thing. I mean, these Republicans who are establishment Republicans, the ones that I
00:19:27.740 would call squishes, you know, whether it be Mitt Romney, whether it be Liz Cheney. I mean, I don't
00:19:32.140 know if they just don't understand that the popular kids in the mainstream media don't actually like
00:19:36.680 them. They're just using them as pawns. They don't actually want to be your friend. They don't actually
00:19:40.340 respect your viewpoint. The mainstream media and the leftists that control the mainstream media
00:19:44.480 just like to purport the narrative that the Republican party is fractured, right?
00:19:48.220 And we're always, Michael, the Republican party is always going to have more individual thought
00:19:52.900 than the Democratic party. We're never going to walk in lockstep the way the Democrats do,
00:19:57.040 because the idea of limited government, the idea of individual liberties and freedoms,
00:20:01.580 is to allow people to think differently, to allow people to live differently.
00:20:05.700 I mean, it's essentially the party of independent thought. So you're going to have free thinkers
00:20:09.620 who are courageous enough to contradict, you know, the people that are leading the party.
00:20:13.620 That's always going to happen. It's not even necessarily a bad thing in and of itself.
00:20:17.260 You just have to be ready to say, nope, you're wrong. This is what the party is going to do.
00:20:20.980 But you can't allow the mainstream media to purport this narrative that we are a fractured party,
00:20:25.320 that we're going, you know, that we're going to break apart, that we don't know what we stand for.
00:20:29.100 Like, no, the mainstream media wants you to think that. And they're using these
00:20:32.020 squished Republicans to paint a false picture.
00:20:34.860 No, that's a great point. And, you know, you are quite insightful on a great many topics,
00:20:39.720 but especially with the media, you've got a really keen view. And it's true. I mean,
00:20:43.940 as much as I want to boot the Liz Cheney types out of GOP leadership, it is the case that the media
00:20:50.680 has an interest here in splitting up the Republican Party so that we don't win in 2022 or 2024 or whenever.
00:20:56.920 Now, I've got to get to a topic that, look, you know, this is important, the parties and the
00:21:03.500 elections, power and whatever. The UFOs, Liz, I want to know. You disappeared at a very convenient
00:21:11.340 time. Now you've just reappeared, you know, all of a sudden when all these little saucers and
00:21:16.300 tic-tacs and things are flying around. What do you know?
00:21:19.640 You can't see my spaceship in the frame, right? I can see sort of the little green antennae coming
00:21:26.940 up there behind your hair. No, I pinned that with a hair clip. I pinned it to my IFB.
00:21:31.620 What do I think of it in all seriousness? I told you.
00:21:34.620 Is it just an op? Is this like a fake thing? What is it?
00:21:37.220 I've been texting all my friends in the DOD. I've been texting all my friends in the national
00:21:40.740 security community. What do you know? Tell me your secrets. And disappointingly, to their credit,
00:21:46.500 they've not released much classified information to me, much. My speculation, this is purely
00:21:52.840 speculation because who's not interested in this, right? You see those videos and you're like,
00:21:56.460 whoa, they're coming for us. My speculation is that it's probably not aliens. It's probably not.
00:22:03.520 My speculation is that it's either military surveillance that we're not being told about
00:22:08.360 because, you know, I mean, there are times that even training operations, you know, you turn on,
00:22:13.260 you turn on your stealth type of settings and you show up differently on radar screens. That happens.
00:22:19.100 There's also sometimes not physical objects that are used for surveillance. Like some of these
00:22:23.400 things, it wouldn't surprise me if it's more like hologram type technology. That's what I actually
00:22:27.660 think a lot of it is because that would allow it to move, you know, beyond the scope of our technology,
00:22:33.840 right? To defy gravity, to not have acceleration and breaking periods, to be able to go up and down
00:22:38.260 side to side. That kind of stuff, almost like projections or holograms. I haven't heard a lot
00:22:42.860 of people talking about that, but I'd be interested in the experts' advice on that.
00:22:46.880 What's, and you know, as outlandish as that might sound, if the alternative is little green men coming
00:22:51.920 from Venus, you know, then it sounds a little more, that's right. That's right. I know, I agree. And
00:22:57.340 there is also, you always have to wonder. Wait, do you think it's aliens?
00:23:01.380 I don't. I'm very, this is my least popular opinion. I don't think that there is any reason
00:23:07.680 to believe that any life exists whatsoever outside of the earth. I'm not saying it doesn't.
00:23:13.820 I'm not saying definitively it doesn't, but I just, you always hear people, one, everyone wants
00:23:18.460 there to be aliens because it's kind of fun and interesting. But two, you'll always hear people
00:23:21.720 say, well, that Michael, the universe is so big. So it's just a matter of probability that there's
00:23:27.540 life on other planets. And I think, well, you know, to ascertain a probability, you need to know
00:23:32.940 literally anything about the subject, but about the subject of how life is, we don't, we don't,
00:23:38.900 we just don't know anything. We have no idea about the scientific origins of life. So, you know,
00:23:44.540 until we know something about that, I, I can't venture a probability of if there's life on Pluto
00:23:49.320 or something. No, I mean, as Catholics, it's compatible with Catholic theology. You know,
00:23:53.560 with God, all things are possible. He created us. He could create other life. Sure. But I agree
00:23:57.740 that there's a difference between could be possible, certainly, versus have evidence that it is. Yeah.
00:24:03.960 Have evidence that it is. And to my knowledge, there is no evidence, right? It's just people's
00:24:07.780 speculation. No, and the tic-tacs and the little, you know, tic-tacs that someday we'll find out is
00:24:12.260 Xi Jinping playing video games. I'm just like, maybe your oxygen mask was on a little loose that day.
00:24:16.300 Yeah, that's true. That's, I know. We'll see. Although all this denial sure sounds like something
00:24:21.260 an alien would say. Oh, well. We'll leave that for the audience to decide. Liz. I mean,
00:24:28.360 it is a little bit like an alien, right? When you grow another human in your body.
00:24:32.120 That is. And I don't know. I mean, I, thankfully, you know, my wife had a very tough time of it. She
00:24:36.960 had a C-section and, but that all the more so even the natural birth is sort of like that,
00:24:42.180 you know, reaching out and the kind of like in the movies and everything. I don't know. Thankfully,
00:24:46.400 I was behind the screen, so I didn't have to see it. I am, I am genuinely very, very excited about
00:24:52.620 your show. I have, I'm not flattering. I am not, you know, just saying this, you know, out of
00:24:58.740 nowhere. I have missed you in the public discourse and I'm glad you're back. And I know the show is
00:25:04.100 going to be a smash. It is the Liz Wheeler show. Where can people find it? Thank you so much,
00:25:08.820 Michael. I appreciate that. And you do actually have to say that because you know that I'll text you
00:25:12.000 to ask you obsessively about the episodes if you don't. People can go to Liz, Liz Wheeler show.com.
00:25:18.240 Please subscribe. Please give me five-star reviews. Please actually write a review because in order
00:25:23.100 to climb up the charts and beat Michael on iTunes, we need those five-star ratings. We need those
00:25:28.660 reviews. We need those subscriptions and we're having a ton of fun. So go to Liz Wheeler show.com.
00:25:33.280 And if they, let's say someone just, you know, they don't do URLs. What is this? The nineties
00:25:38.040 people go have a browser. So they're on, they can get it just on Apple podcast. Just search
00:25:41.940 Liz Wheeler show. Yeah, definitely. And that's what Liz Wheeler show.com takes you to all the
00:25:45.540 different podcast platforms, but you can go to anywhere that you get your pods and you'll find
00:25:48.940 it. Yep. Spotify. It's on YouTube. Yep. It's on YouTube. It's on Spotify. They haven't kicked
00:25:54.780 you off yet. For now. On Apple podcasts, anywhere that you listen to podcasts, we will be there.
00:26:00.220 It's on Rumble. It's on YouTube. Right. Rumble. These are like, they're all these new things. I don't
00:26:05.000 know. It's on MySpace. It's on LiveJournal. It's on Zanga. It's on Instant Messenger. It's on a lot of
00:26:10.500 places. Liz, before we go, by the way, everybody go subscribe, go check out the show, leave a five
00:26:16.400 star review. And, and then if it turns out that Liz is an alien, we're going to, we'll have to
00:26:22.300 recalibrate. Okay. We'll have to, but we're, you're going to be talking about lots of aliens,
00:26:26.840 aliens from outer space. You'll be talking about aliens from Guatemala and Nicaragua and issues at
00:26:32.220 the Southern border. You'll be talking about all, all manner of public policy issues on the show.
00:26:36.320 So everything. Everything. Thank you. Liz, so good to be with you. See you soon. Thank you, Michael.
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