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- January 07, 2025
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1073
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good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus it is for tuesday the 7th
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of january 2025 i'm joined by stelios and today we're going to be talking about trudeau quitting
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uh and frankly more on the grooming gang scandals how uh starmer lunk-headedly responded to elon
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musk and how we've there's just so much evidence of the authorities trying to cover it up or dismiss
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it that it's uh beyond denial at this point i think and so we're going to go through that in
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some detail so not terribly fun for my segments but thankfully stelios should be quite funny
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so that's good now let's begin there right so carl my distinguished colleagues and the lotus
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seater's audience it is with deep awareness of the responsibility conferred to me by your choice
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that i accept your nomination for the position of the eulogist of justin trudeau's political career
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this is a man whose political career is defined by care for justice peace and liberty this is a
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canadian who loved his people his country and what it is meant to stand for his loyalty at promoting
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canadian interests is undisputed and unwavering this is a man who resisted subversion anywhere
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he saw it let us come together and grieve with deep sorrow for his recent announcement
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but before that let's watch at how trump says goodbye to him
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there's a very funny video here he is flushing justin trudeau from a golden toilet
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thank god for ai that's all i can say right exact your artist representation of what happened
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right so one of the thing is that trudeau is a leftist he's a socialist and socialists can plan
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they think they can but they can't plan they constantly forget very easy details like for
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instance the wind let's see here look at the podium what do you notice carl
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a deeply symbolic piece of paper floating away
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yeah yeah no one no one thought that maybe it's gonna the wind is gonna blow and the paper's gonna
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so oh that was before his speech that was before right before his speech you see so he's lost the
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first pages of his speech unbelievable yeah i i hope the first pages didn't say something entirely
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different yeah maybe there's nothing important on them yeah maybe something was lost there if
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something really bad happens then i'll resign let's see what he said afterwards let let us see
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justin trudeau and his own words last night over dinner i told my kids about the decision that i'm sharing with you today
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what happened i don't know i intend to resign as party leader as prime minister after the party selects its next leader
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its next leader through a robust nationwide competitive process last night i asked the president of the liberal party
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to begin that process this country deserves a real choice in the next election and it has become clear to me
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that if i'm having to fight internal battles i cannot be the best option in that election
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so carl i think that this is an argument for the claim that
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people people within the family don't deserve
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support no matter what unconditional support because his family supported his policies
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they shouldn't have well sure but you can understand why they would but i think that really what's happening
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is that he's absolutely tanking in the polls and pierre pollivé is going to smash him
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and he doesn't want to be the guy to get absolutely rinsed what a merciful thing to say
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right so canadians started celebrating we have several videos here the wait wait wait wait let's mute it
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yes we can find several videos some of them are fake but there is a kind of sentiment
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of that people are very happy with i imagine many people in canada were thrilled with this announcement
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yes because it turns out in fact that they didn't actually like him really they started like it
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liking him in the beginning when he won he has won three elections yeah to be to be fair i think the
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popularity rating or the approval rating was around 65 percent nine years ago when he won and now it's
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close to 22 or in the low 20s really so yeah tyrannizing his own country wasn't a popular decision
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he was doing it for their own good though that's true he felt bad didn't understand it's for their
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own good so this is i think the most representative meme of his uh premiership because that's him
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justin trudeau with a with a smile we had pride skid marks and the world literally declining behind
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like that he described the pride skid marks yeah well how should i call them that's fine uh yeah
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yeah yeah it's the skid marks or the tire yes okay well they are skid marks on the road that's great i like
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asphalt i just like asphalt right so we see a trend of declining popularity here we have the canadian
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federal elections of 2015 if you see he won with a 39.47 percent then yeah in the next elections in
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2019 39 became 33 that's a big loss by the way in 2020 in 2021 this became 32.62 so yet another fall so
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it's very understandable that a lot of people even within his own party think that
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this trend is not going to be reversed he is going to lose and the the elections are set to be for
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october the 20th 2025 it's election year for canada so the liberal the liberals in canada think that he is
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not the best bet yeah right and penetrating the cabinets yes and uh one of the reasons is that
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he doesn't show anything that suggests that the popularity rating is going to go up and in fact we
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have here a very a very popular video of the last months where he was confronted with a from a by a
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steel worker let's see what he what's going on here we got donuts over here if you want to thank you for
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your hard work i can bring something for my kids here okay uh the 25 percent paris we just brought
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in on chinese skills yeah help you out that's going to keep my job yeah what about the uh 40
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percent taxes and pain and and i don't have a doctor the 400 million dollars in the invested
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investment card yeah i think you're only here for another year we won't see around probably another
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year that's that's what elections are for that's right that's right and i i look forward to everyone
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exercising the right to vote yep basic choice we're going to invest in you and your job
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i don't i don't believe you for a second that went viral you know anyone who got
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it's not time playing yeah i pay for it myself okay we're like three years behind
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job and coverage yeah four people in my family every time we go for a dental visit
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it's cost me about 50 in my pocket per person okay why i have a good job
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you're not really doing anything for us just
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actually we just invested so half a million people haven't been to the dentist
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we get an idea we get an idea now i i would be a half million indians yeah i will say i'm
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minister canada i will say this when when you're a politician you can't have everyone happy
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but at least you have to demonstrate that you can acknowledge concerns and i think this perfectly
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captures trudeau's essence or the essence of his political career that when people confronted
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working class people confront him with simple things and simple concerns he didn't even
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acknowledge that they have a concern he doubled down on just empty rhetoric we will invest in you
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in your future yeah what does that mean to this guy nothing exactly he's still going to pay 50
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dollars to get his teeth looked at exactly right so let's see here some of the context behind this
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resignation so trudeau was under a lot of pressure lately he had a um finance minister uh christian
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freeland resigning hours before she was due to deliver her annual fiscal update so there are several
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problems within the trudeau camp as everyone understands it's not that the liberals disagree with
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his policies they had they backed him up when he was promoting all of them they didn't waver on
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their support to him he he was morally correct he won the argument jeremy corbyn style yes even if
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he lost he's going to lose the election yes it's just that they think that that right now he can't win
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an election yeah but the policies are the same yeah and we have here in a blistering letter of
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resignation finance minister christia freeland announced that uh she criticized trudeau's political
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gimmick slightly referring to a two-month sales tax holiday and 250 canadian dollar rebates for most
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workers freelance said canada could ill afford these policies seen as a pre-election handout to claw
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back some voters and coming as the country faces a serious pro prospect of huge tariffs which could be
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levered by incoming trump administration trump is uh considering to have an executive order
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where he is going to impose a 25 percent tariffs and what did a leftist think there well let's increase
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spending when in doubt let's increase public spending and the people who are a bit more sensible even if
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it's not for moral reasons even if it's just for political instinct practical reasons they said well
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that's going to make us look bad maybe that's not the way forward let's stop promoting trudeau
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right so what is his legacy there are two different narratives about his legacy the mainstream one
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and i think the the correct one let's see here what what would you say about that the mainstream
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narrative is about the about his legacy well it's going to be the same as the other wef puppets like
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jacinda ardern where the narrative is going to be a kind of rolling praise of their liberal credentials
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and the liberal things that they did in office and this will be a massive disconnect from the actual
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real harms that they did and the genuine loathing that people have for them i think you have anticipated
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what is being written here oh have i yeah how did i know yeah how could i have known this in advance
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yeah and that's again characteristic of the politics of nowadays in the west we have a lot of
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people who are disgruntled a lot of people who feel alienated with their government because they
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have complete lack of patriotic feeling and complete lack of respect to them in their capacity as
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patriotic citizens and they care about the abstractions like gender equity they care about
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the indigenous agenda it says legal drugs yeah other initiatives oh also the carbon tax yeah there are
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so many things that they do that the public are like i don't want this which a lot of that well
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they're essentially people complain about democracy but actually it does still contain within it the power
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of selection yeah we still do get to choose and okay well i appreciate that pierre pollovet probably
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isn't the choice that many on the online right would like but at least it's not just in trudeau he's not
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going to be insane i i i know that a lot of people are skeptic are completely skeptical of democracy i
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don't share the extent of the concern but i think the i think of it this way if the demos had zero
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patriotic feeling why would there be such a push to change the dynamics and the demographics of the
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demos it is at least a mechanism through which this discontent can be expressed that's why when they're
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talking about our democracy yeah it's very nebulous yeah right so we have he adjusted we have another
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narrative here the narrative you won't see in mainstream media that says that justin trudeau
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basically has done many mistakes and you would expect him you would expect from a sensible politician
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to do better let's see here his position on isis and people who fought for isis
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in the mid middle of the previous decade while other countries are prosecuting citizens who went
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abroad to fight for isis trudeau believes some returning home to canada can still be rehabilitated
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there's a range of experiences when people come home and we know that actually someone who has
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engaged and turned away from that hateful ideology can be an extraordinarily powerful voice
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for preventing radicalization uh in uh future generations and younger uh younger people within
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again that's the essence of the trudeau premiership whenever we have valid concerns of people who say
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look at the kind of mentality that leads one to to commit atrocities of that sort but here we need
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the myth myth of regret and just you know a sort of blank idea they can just be rehabilitated
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yeah brought into canadian society it's the tabula rasa not in birth but at any stage in life yeah but
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this this is typical like radical leftism really but there is nothing a person can do that puts them
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beyond the pale unless they oppose the agenda of radical leftism yeah you are what you declare to be
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yeah yeah right he didn't do just that which is a a very insensible move a very a move that screams
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lack of prudence during the pandemic as isabel oakeshott reminds people of he says justin trudeau
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went so completely crazy that he literally froze the bank accounts of people who protested against
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mandatory jabs good riddance yeah that that was a very totalitarian move yeah it was incredible i mean to
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to like i'm sure the canadian truckers just want to get on with their jobs i'm sure they just were
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like yeah just leave us alone let's get on with our jobs and instead they have to spend days in the
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freezing cold blockading ottawa yeah it's like that is you've really got to mishandle the situation
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if you can get thousands of them to do that yeah but you've really got to screw it up and i have the
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habit of not focusing on rhetoric and sentiment so much but on act on operation and it seems to me
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that when it comes to justin trudeau and the way he handled handled the pandemic he was constantly
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saying there's an emergency and when we have a situation of emergency i need to assume basically
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absolute power and say that anyone who disagrees with me should be coerced into acting as i want
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them to act yeah you've got to remember that trudeau had i think it was like 2014 or something
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done an interview in which he said he admired the basic dictatorship of china because it was able to
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turn on a dime and do whatever it wanted with regards to any subject that it wanted and unsurprisingly
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he approaches the covid pandemic which came from china in a very chinese style i mean the very notion
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of lockdown should have been so incomprehensibly alien to the west that we should have automatically
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dismissed them and said right well we will do what we think is best and what is in keeping with
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our own traditions but instead we decided to follow the chinese model it's like why would we do that
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right we have here a very good thread by michael schellenberger on several of the of the problematic
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policies of trudeau if you want to check it out visit the website and you can click the link
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underneath he is talking about several of the problems with trudeau and i'm gonna name some i
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remember trudeau was very aggressive against free speech yeah the the main clip we remember from jordan
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peterson in the beginning in 2016 was when he was opposing bill c16 that mandated the use of pronouns
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and it didn't just say don't use words x y and z it says you need to use words a b and c
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there was also bill c63 that was even worse because it introduced the notion of the hate crime in and
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it also was to have a retroactive effect you can you can arguably say that this was even more severe than
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the irish hate speech law the crime justice bill 2022 the covid lockdowns the the way he handled the
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tracker's protests he debanked them um he was horrible and atrocious on immigration
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and um there were some other a bit more fun things with him
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here we'll mention a conspiracy again this is a conspiracy conspiracy i'm not just saying but a lot
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of people just a remarkable resemblance yeah they really look alike don't they yeah incredibly so
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yeah because i was looking at him as is castro alive have you seen his his purported father
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pierre castro um yes but i don't think they bear the same resemblance no they don't look anything
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alike yeah he doesn't look anything like his father but it does look like um uh fidel castro
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yeah and his mother did go and cavort with fidel castro in cuba yeah just literally look at them
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yeah i know it's just it's definitely the case i'm sorry i'm a conspiracy believer oh yeah look
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yeah we have this clip should we play it if you want yeah my marriage was broken down because we
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had a catholic marriage based on the old-fashioned principle of fidelity and i was unfaithful
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and therefore our marriage was over okay this is just going to fuel more speculation and
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conspiracy theories about the humble origins of yeah but his father doesn't look anything like him
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he's got a long narrow face he's not good looking it's like this this is not the same anyway
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right here we have this uh justin trudeau in 2001 this is one of the funniest pictures of justin
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trudeau i mean there's just a bit rich how many pictures of him there are in blackface
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yeah there aren't any pictures of me in blackface because i was never a theater kid
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isn't that a bit rich coming from him you know he does this and then he goes banging on the drum of
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cultural appropriation and it's just shameless it's hilarious to be honest i don't know how he got
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away with it yeah and also one of the oh yeah really weird thing let's see here the this moment
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within the at least a dozen standing ovations there was also one for this man a 98 year old
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ukrainian canadian who fought for ukrainian independence against the russians during the
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second world war yeah so literally they literally had against the russians oh really on behalf of who
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yeah so you have the darling of the woke the the the the woke prince yeah the prince one of the
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princes of the circles of crown prince of wokeness himself yes one of those anti-fascists yeah yeah
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yeah literally bring into the bring a nazi to have him applauded it it's just comically stupid
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yeah look at all these clowns applauding brilliantly oh marvelous thank you so much for sticking it to
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the russians right then here we have the message of pierre polievre which i think we should listen
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for a bit because it's it's really important to get an idea of the policies of the liberals who
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supported justin trudeau let's listen to him a bit canadians desperate to turn the page on this dark
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chapter in our history might be relieved today well i'll just gonna say what what he says because
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there there are some sound issues yeah he says nothing changes trudeau is just a person they
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shouldn't focus on the person the important thing is the policies help just let's yeah we shouldn't
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focus on the policies and he literally reminds people that all the liberals right they they backed
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trudeau when he was they agree he's trudeau wasn't in any way outside of the norm for their agenda he
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was actually a really good instantiation of it yeah and i think right now i i'm i'm willing to bet
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that they're gonna lose and right now they're gonna sort of choose a within quotation marks a
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sacrificial lamb maybe they're gonna they're gonna say right now we're gonna lose this so we don't
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want to lose a very high profile so so someone who was never on the board for like you know future
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greatness let's just get put up they're like kamala harris in fact just get put put her into
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yeah get slapped yeah you let's choose a number two or something like that yeah right so goodbye
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justin trudeau and we're gonna miss you um there's a lot of people pointing out that uh poliver is
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not like some uh great uh great replacement for him either um he's kind of just a standard fiscal
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conservative uh where he obviously he's he talks about state spending a lot and don't get me wrong
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i actually quite like him on on a personal level i love the way he deals with journalists especially
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um but they are right he's it's going to be essentially business as usual but with less
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state spending okay fine um which is in fact what random name here points out uh dragon lady says
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uh yesterday jeremy corbyn tweeted billionaires should not own social media platforms free media
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is a democratic media a public good that is owned and run by us all like the bbc thoughts uh jeremy
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corbyn is a communist he doesn't seem to understand that if we made it so that poor people own the media
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they'd stop being poor and end up becoming billionaires um but also the idea that yeah it's
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the only media that is legitimate is the bbc yeah just too many nonsense in the bbc for me to agree
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with that um in exo says i wonder what other of castro's love children will now try and take over
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canada uh castro uh oh justin uh castro literally worked with china to train their military to invade
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america via canadian territory yeah i did hear about this i didn't ended up end up looking into it but i did
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hear they were doing some sort of joint military exercise to train the chinese military it's like
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why would he do this why wasn't that that sounds that sounds very suspicious it's really weird isn't
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to put it mildly very peculiar uh funny man says i really appreciate you both uh more classically
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liberal yin to connor and harry's conservative yang uh and matt says well the grooming gang news
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destroyed the trust the british public have with the legacy news but the british public start getting
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news from new media sources like load seaters gb news etc uh too much to say so i will um i'll park
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that from it we don't know frankly you know no one can know what the future is going to hold but um
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people that there's definitely been a rift between the general view of the british public and what is
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happening now right thank god for elon bringing this to everyone's attention frankly in fact let's let's
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move on to that let's talk about starmer's response to elon because it was very tinny it he failed to
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understand why people were upset by this and he failed to substantively address any of the real
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issues which we discussed in a round table on notices.com and what we thought would be the
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consequence of this and so go and watch that for a more detailed analysis and i'm going to give here
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i'm just going to go through the uh the events but this was keir starmer's response
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and i'm not going to play it because it goes on for about four minutes but it completely misses any
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of the points right so the first thing he says is that tommy robinson he begins with misinformation
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he says tommy robinson is currently in prison for nearly collapsing a grooming gang case
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i don't think this is why he is not why he's in prison right now he's currently in jail for contempt
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of court because he broadcast his uh documentary re-alleging what he has alleged the about the um
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um i can't remember the kid's name now actually um the the young man who was uh allegedly a bully in
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the school and he had put together in his documentary the evidence of this which was denied by the courts
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they they found him guilty of defaming him and he had to pay him however much money
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and tommy broadcast this documentary in public and that was considered contempt of court and so the
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attorney general uh bring him up and sent him to jail yeah well what i think what i think keir
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starmer is talking about is a previous time tommy robinson went to jail six years ago uh when he was
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at the huddersfield case and he was arrested and locked up although it he in in tommy's perspective
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he was asked where can he he asked the police where should he stand the police told him there
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and they decided that he was in fact uh endangering the court case and so he ended up going to jail for
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13 months it sounds a bit yeah it's all politically motivated i mean there were other journalists around
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doing exactly the same thing but they were like oh you're tommy robinson you're you're going to jail
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you have an area of effect yeah it's yeah yeah it's it's obvious that there's no neutrality in the
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british state towards mr robinson right the the entire reason that he is consistently in the headlines
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is because they have essentially been primed to use him as a totem of working class opposition to the
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current order yeah and so he is systematically discriminated against in lots and lots of
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different ways but i mean he's been debanked he's been deplatformed he's been banned from going to
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certain towns yeah and he's been like there was one time where he was in a pub with his family and
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the police just came arrived and then essentially marched him out of the city i can't remember which
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city was like telford or something and it was just like you're not allowed to do that
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that you can't just do that but of course they can because it's him and he is an outlaw from their
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perspective anyway uh he also accused tommy robinson of uh getting a quote a vicarious thrill from street
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violence it's like i mean maybe 15 years ago in the edl but this seems quite anachronistic because
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in the last like five years or 10 years i don't think he's done anything that would counter street
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violence and the unite the kingdom rallies have been totally superb and really well run i know
00:27:13.600
because i've been speaking at them um so anyway it's not like starmer himself is like some sort of
00:27:19.040
golden boy here when it comes to this i mean starmer has been accused of snubbing whistleblowers
00:27:23.260
who want to expose the rotherham grooming gangs and this it's as if starmer is trying to take
00:27:31.860
ownership of the problem but it's like but we know you're not we know you have admitted that the
00:27:38.540
and in fact this in particular obviously dismissing the whistleblowers is a massive problem but prior to
00:27:44.260
this in 2012 starmer admitted yeah the crown prosecution service of whom he was in charge from 2008 to 2012
00:27:51.740
uh failed the grooming gangs uh 2013 i think he was but um but he said after the rochdale scandal in
00:27:58.600
2012 uh broke publicly the then director of public prosecution said the perpetrators had escaped justice
00:28:04.360
for decades because of the failure of authorities take the abuse seriously he had also conceded that
00:28:08.680
the ethnicity of the subjects had been suspects had been an issue and the prosecutors failed to
00:28:13.080
understand the nature of the abuse that's all correct you don't differ on tommy robinson's position
00:28:19.500
on this issue right yeah keir starmer and tommy robinson have the same point on this and so
00:28:26.320
and this these comments came after it was revealed that the cps under his leadership
00:28:31.040
had dropped a case against a rape gang despite overwhelming evidence of their guilt
00:28:35.540
it's it's because there's a different narrative yes the same people can say that okay we we agree on
00:28:42.480
this on statistics regarding crime about certain ethnicities as being overrepresented but then
00:28:49.200
you're going to have the left saying yeah i will circulate these statistics but i will allow only the
00:28:54.980
narrative that says that they are only due to economic conditions so i'm going to tax you more
00:28:59.640
to pay for more more money so that their crime decreases yes and all the way of how it is integrated
00:29:06.340
into a narrative yeah the we'll go through a few things and then summarize what the the essential
00:29:11.480
problem with all of this is so he then goes on to defend jess phillips saying that she has done a
00:29:16.660
thousand times more than tommy robinson presumably on the subject of grooming gangs um which is just not
00:29:25.000
true as far as i can tell she's done nothing just how how exactly as far as i'm i i'm not really sure
00:29:30.580
what jess phillips has ever actually done on the grooming gangs although most recently as her in her
00:29:35.780
position and capacity as safeguarding minister she did reject oldham council's request for a
00:29:41.280
government inquiry into the grooming gang in oldham of course there was one recently arrested and
00:29:46.660
finally prosecuted the ringleaders prosecuted but obviously the customers of these gangs are still
00:29:52.320
just at large um but jess phillips uh decided that she didn't want to have anything to do with
00:29:57.020
that and we discussed this in the round table because i i think it's um honestly probably i mean
00:30:03.600
i was i think that jess phillips is lazy and a lot a large part of this is her just going i don't want
00:30:08.340
to have to do this but another part of it is i don't want to be in uh incorporated into a narrative
00:30:15.940
that will help the far right i mean that's genuinely a concern they have uh it says they're minister for
00:30:21.320
safeguarding violence and violence against women and girls shouldn't be shouldn't she be the first
00:30:27.420
person to ask for a national inquiry and not just someone whose name is constantly being appealed to
00:30:33.860
in order to divert attention from what is actually important in this case yeah you think that she'd be
00:30:38.760
leading the charge and saying no every single one of these men exactly going to jail but of course
00:30:44.560
jess phillips problem is that her constituency is something like 40 muslim yeah and she only won
00:30:50.520
in her constituency with something like 700 votes very slow more low margin to a muslim independent
00:30:57.840
candidate and the labor party are becoming well aware that in fact the muslim enclaves in britain
00:31:02.940
can just select their own candidates who will more accurately represent themselves and their opinions on
00:31:08.540
things like gaza and won't be engaged in this kind of discourse and so she's kind of uh trapped in a
00:31:18.840
place where she can't escape from yes actually and i mean i would be surprised if she were to win
00:31:24.520
another term in her seat um but anyway then uh kirstama moved on saying well we've seen this playbook
00:31:30.580
many times whipping up intimidation and threats of violence hoping the media will amplify it's like okay but
00:31:37.020
at the time nobody had seen anything we're like right what is this about and it seems they were just
00:31:44.600
playing the victim but they did manage to produce one guy who had sent some malicious communications
00:31:49.540
to jess phillips um so one moron who has been rightly arrested i assume he sent threats i don't know
00:31:57.760
but in this article they don't tell us what he said to her so i don't know what the nature of his
00:32:02.820
communications was i'm just going to take it for granted that they're telling us the truth
00:32:07.380
and that this is exactly as threatening as they make it out to be but of course and i'm sure it
00:32:13.720
doesn't need to be stressed don't send jess phillips threatening messages yeah they say threatening
00:32:18.940
messages but as you pointed out they don't say what the threat was and they don't i don't know to what
00:32:24.660
extent they describe it as incitement to violence which is obviously not they they just um they
00:32:31.180
describe it as malicious messages but if that is the case and they don't say exactly what it is about
00:32:38.060
them that um led to the persecution they are like i mean literally they just said messages sent between
00:32:47.080
april 2024 and january 2025 so it's not like he it can be reasonably asserted that these messages are a
00:32:57.880
consequence of elon musk's tweets either yeah these are again from a year ago nearly so they're just
00:33:04.600
fine i mean it literally seems very politically convenient where it's like oh no we need to get
00:33:09.180
this guy now so we can say that jess phillips is in fact the victim of elon musk's highlighting of
00:33:16.720
the grooming gang issue that she is taking no part in accepting i mean with the oldham council thing
00:33:21.760
she literally is saying no you can just do the inquiry yourself the government's gonna have no
00:33:25.820
part in it it's like but why like why wouldn't you want to if you were the minister for safeguarding
00:33:30.940
women and girls like again it just seems to me that would be entirely the only job you have
00:33:35.860
yes is to look into these cases but sadly we see a pattern across europe and the west i think when we
00:33:42.160
have crime committed by members of groups that the left considers to be oppressed in fact they consider
00:33:48.040
them their allies at any given moment they isolate it and they say it's an isolated incident and no one
00:33:54.200
will infer any pattern from it whereas if it's crime committed by a person from the other side
00:34:00.800
from someone who who is a member of a group they don't consider to be their allies they're projecting
00:34:06.880
patterns on it like far-right pandemic haunting europe yeah and it's very interesting how this
00:34:12.940
guy was only charged over the weekend so they they knew these messages been sent a year ago nearly
00:34:18.060
but it's only when milan musk starts tweeting about this so like right grab him charge him he's
00:34:22.660
threatening jess phillips she's the victim this is a far-right narrative look you're trying to threaten
00:34:27.380
mps it's like sorry i'm not buying it i'm just not buying it i think this is entirely too conveniently
00:34:33.180
timed uh i mean obviously punish this idiot in whatever way is necessary and allowed under the
00:34:39.200
law obviously and maybe this will be a lesson don't message politicians with mean things but um but i
00:34:45.960
don't believe that this has been ginned up by elon musk and he carries on and says when the poison of
00:34:51.640
the far-right leads to serious threats to jess phillips and others in a book in my book a line has been
00:34:56.040
crossed it's like okay right so jess phillips is now the real victim of the grooming gang scandal
00:35:01.460
that's where he's arriving at it's it's not that she is doing nothing to protect women and girls
00:35:06.840
from being predated on by the grooming gangs and it's not that she's going to hold any accountability
00:35:12.760
in her position as a member of the government or historically as someone who has made it culturally
00:35:19.100
difficult to address this issue as part of the left the ruling sort of left-wing elite ideology
00:35:23.940
no she's now the victim of it and therefore you shouldn't talk about it because you're endangering
00:35:28.740
her life when you bring this issue to the fore that's just entirely intended to divert attention
00:35:34.940
everyone should talk a hundred percent about the operation of the grooming gangs and how they how it
00:35:40.780
was covered up and uh instead of that almost everyone is talking about the far right about
00:35:46.420
messages to jess phillips and i want to ask you something because we are listening about threatening
00:35:52.140
we listen to late people from labor saying that members of labor have received threatening
00:35:59.160
messages and have been prosecuted i remember was it february or april where lindsay hoyle in the uk
00:36:06.260
parliament said members of labor mp have received threatening messages and that's against i don't remember
00:36:14.720
anyone prosecuted for that no and you could see the palpable sense of fear from hoyle as well and
00:36:21.860
these these these were threats that were coming from a specific community as well not not of course
00:36:27.160
far right threats um the palpable sense of fear and he literally said i don't want any of you to turn
00:36:33.460
up dead basically and it was like okay um yeah anyway so going back on to keir starmer uh he says
00:36:40.280
quote we have to base our debate on facts and truth not lies which is deeply ironic thing considering he
00:36:46.180
began with uh an untruth about why tommy robinson was in jail and he's obscuring the fact that these messages
00:36:56.680
were not sent as a response to elon musk's tweets they were clearly sent prior to that so he's begun
00:37:02.740
with lies and he says not only on those who are so desperate for attention that prepared to debase
00:37:08.240
themselves in their country is he referring to jess phillips there feels like he might be this
00:37:14.780
government will get on with the job of protecting victims including child sex abuse mandatory
00:37:18.720
reporting accelerating the process but what i won't tolerate is this discussion and debate based on
00:37:22.960
lies okay well you're the one lying but if it wasn't for elon musk bringing this to the forest if it
00:37:28.700
wasn't for tommy robinson and others bringing this subject front and center you would have just let
00:37:35.260
this go exactly and misinformation requires people talking about something whereas the the main issue
00:37:43.180
here was silence yes the the only way to avoid speaking something that is inaccurate whether
00:37:50.180
intentionally or not is to be silent about it the main problem here was silence about the operation of
00:37:56.040
the grooming gangs yes that's why they're diverting attention yet again on when they're talking about
00:38:01.700
misinformation they absolutely would prefer you not to talk about the subject this is exactly their
00:38:07.340
position and that's why they they are mad at elon musk because he has a reach other people don't
00:38:12.620
yes and so they're taking all of the dirty tactics that they can and throwing them at the wards see what
00:38:18.880
can stick for example they're trying to weaponize the grooming gang victims against elon musk so as you can
00:38:26.140
see here they've they've decided uh to find a group of victims of gender-based violence who have criticized elon musk's
00:38:35.540
for his attack on jess phillips uh saying that she had devoted her life for fighting for women and girls in a letter
00:38:42.020
shared with the guardian so is not public it's not public so it's a letter they've written and sent to the guardian they
00:38:51.340
haven't posted it publicly as far as i'm aware um so including three survivors of the telford sexual abuse scandal
00:38:58.060
uh they came to the labor of mp's defense and said there was no one in public life who has done more support the victims
00:39:02.780
it's like sure that's okay so you've got seven women three of whom are telford survivors we don't know who they are
00:39:11.300
they obviously have a political position but the thing is there are other people who are also survivors of the grooming gangs
00:39:19.060
such as sammy woodhouse here who is completely on side with elon musk who's completely uh in defense
00:39:26.500
of elon musk saying thank you so much for bringing this to mainstream attention when they've done
00:39:31.420
everything they can to sweep it under the rug and i mean you get people like charlie peters who have
00:39:36.540
also spoken to survivors of the grooming gangs and he's as he says here i've asked some survivors of
00:39:42.560
the abuse gangs for their reenaction to starmer's line calling that those calling for an inquiry are just
00:39:47.280
jumping on the bandwagon amid the poison of the far right uh i can't print anything that i've told
00:39:52.260
been told so far just pure anger one survivor from rotherham told me quote victims all over deserve to
00:39:58.460
know why the true extent of why we were abused and and who cover it up it's so easy to keep blaming the
00:40:04.820
far right every single time this issue comes up we need to know the truth across the country
00:40:08.280
another victim gets in touch demanding an inquiry into child abuse is not jumping on the bandwagon or far
00:40:13.740
right refusing what we clearly need is appalling and unacceptable children live with the damage for
00:40:19.000
years hiding the problem is not fixing it facing the problem well so this again is a kind of
00:40:24.960
disgraceful tactics oh well you know seven unnamed victims of this have come forward to defend jess
00:40:31.400
phillips and tacky elon musk over it so why why are you weaponizing these people because this seems to
00:40:37.240
me to be the suggesting that they care much more about their narrative than about people well that's
00:40:43.480
that's exactly what this is so what has happened here is a closing of ranks of the liberal elite in
00:40:50.200
britain the second elon musk started saying hey actually i think that maybe dealing with these
00:40:57.220
child rape gangs is something that actually should be the paramount issue that any government in britain
00:41:03.800
should face and crack down on what they decided was that he was a foreigner and he wasn't allowed
00:41:12.040
to comment and in fact this was a threat to the liberal hegemony of britain their particular narrative
00:41:18.300
as you say and they have literally become little englander xenophobes over it because it's elon musk
00:41:24.940
if it was anyone else speaking about a different subject they would have absolutely nothing to say on
00:41:29.940
this issue exactly yeah so just as a quick uh finishing point on this one uh apparently reform
00:41:37.560
are going to hold the full public inquiry themselves raising money won't be a problem which is a good
00:41:43.220
start and i think it is worth noting that uh the conservatives did set up a task force in 2023
00:41:48.720
which did arrest many of the ringleaders of these grooming gangs but that's just going to show you that
00:41:55.100
it was only two years ago they were still operating and that no action had really been taken
00:41:59.560
and that this needed to be done so i mean this should have been done back in 2011 when it became
00:42:06.940
a public scandal and that everyone found out about it and it's not like there haven't been plenty of
00:42:11.380
inquiries since like we're going to go through some of what the inquiries have discovered in fact
00:42:15.940
in a minute uh which should have justified this kind of action and again this is the bare minimum
00:42:21.820
right just to be clear this is the absolute bare minimum that was done under the sunak uh premiership
00:42:27.200
that it should have been in a decade before with a lot more honestly a lot more bloody vigor
00:42:33.620
anyway let's uh get some comments uh so uh in exo says uh this morning nigel farage falsely accused
00:42:43.960
tommy robinson of violence against women on tv these things are not helping with the fibs being told
00:42:49.160
yeah i saw this clip and we'll probably have to talk about it at some point but um yes to my
00:42:54.380
knowledge tommy robinson has never been even accused of violence against women i haven't heard
00:42:59.920
anything yeah i've i've never even heard of this i would be very surprised
00:43:04.180
why nigel feels the need to attack tommy is bizarre because what he's trying to do with that
00:43:13.160
is put himself within the narrative of the left he's trying to say you know i actually agree with
00:43:19.000
what you're saying here instead of taking the dissident revolutionary line that trump and elon are
00:43:25.460
taking that kind of no we're against the establishment and the people who haven't actually really done
00:43:30.600
anything wrong are our people and you are the ones oppressing and victimizing them well i think if
00:43:37.160
reform doesn't want to associate with tommy robinson uh rupert lowe's post yesterday was good
00:43:43.860
and uh maybe farage should appeal to that yeah if he is constantly pressed on the issue it's driving
00:43:51.960
me crazy because nigel doesn't have to associate with tommy robinson right he doesn't have to he can
00:43:57.820
just say uh he's not a member of the party and we don't think he'd be a right fit for the party
00:44:01.900
but the grooming gangs are a problem you you you and start attacking on the issue of the groom
00:44:05.800
gangs instead of saying well tommy robinson's been accused of violence against women again if he has
00:44:11.960
i'm just not aware of it and i don't know where i would find this information from because you'd
00:44:15.980
think it'd be in every newspaper report about tommy robinson uh how he would be able to get away
00:44:22.020
with away from that i mean they're currently uh castigating uh one of the reform mps for violence
00:44:28.920
against women when he was like 20 or something like this so 20 odd years ago if tommy robinson had
00:44:33.960
done something similar you better believe we would have heard about it now oph uk says england's
00:44:39.640
daughters are gang raped its toddlers stabbed and its people gunned down in the name of islam
00:44:43.800
the uk government condones facilitates and covers up the abuses for dei the english are a stateless
00:44:48.540
people uh yes uh sorry nigel did this on lbc not on tv right i didn't i did see the clip i didn't
00:44:56.360
know when it was from though but lbc this morning right uh and thank you that's a random name but i'm
00:45:02.640
not going to read that sorry there are there are some things probably best not to so um i think the
00:45:12.960
uh the the things move on to is that yes it absolutely was a cover-up right the authorities
00:45:19.980
knew the police knew the councillors knew the mps knew the media knew and they went out of their way
00:45:26.820
to cover this up and so this is going to be a detailed look at just some of the examples of
00:45:32.700
how they covered this up because this is just atrocious it's absolutely atrocious and speaks
00:45:40.040
to a britain whose time i think is past right so the sort of 2000s consensus of the love actually
00:45:47.560
keir starmer types being in control of the cultural narrative and handing that down through the
00:45:54.660
institutions and through proliferating that through the culture to make people essentially be
00:45:59.940
complicit in terrible crimes so i'm going to lean heavily on work that sam ashworth hayes has done
00:46:06.180
here sam is a columnist at the telegraph and he's just doing superb work on the grooming gangs frankly
00:46:13.340
he's doing a really really really excellent job of uncovering these these monumental flaws in what
00:46:20.600
has happened and not even flaws deliberate policy so beginning with the police turning a blind eye
00:46:27.220
so this was a particular case in rotherham where a the grooming gang was the groom the abuser the
00:46:34.760
pakistani adult man was abusing a girl in a car next to the police station the police caught him in the act
00:46:44.440
and they said well what's going on he said well she's doing whatever and they ignored it and then
00:46:53.080
just wandered off as if this was completely normal that's unbelievable yes it's just and it's just
00:46:59.940
infuriating and the obvious question is why would they not pay attention to it why would they just dismiss
00:47:08.680
no idea i mean she's she's literally like 13 or something and they can see into the car they can
00:47:14.880
see what she's doing they can see that he's making her do it they they can see that he's like i mean he
00:47:21.200
was he 44 when he was finally arrested so in his 30s maybe like and they just decided no blind eye to
00:47:29.160
that not our problem or that's that's inconvenient that's uncomfortable we're not going to deal with
00:47:34.000
this and so they just wandered off and so you've got other examples right so in another case when
00:47:41.740
the police found a missing victim in a car with her abusers they told her she'd get the men in trouble
00:47:47.460
right so you know you can you can file a complaint you can press charges but you will be getting these
00:47:54.540
guys in trouble right let's police often stop cars in which csa-12 was with her abusers that's the
00:48:01.040
the victim herself but took no action even after finding out her age and that she was missing from
00:48:05.620
care one police officer told me that i was what was going wrong in our society and that i was the
00:48:12.180
type of person bringing about a bad society another one said that we were going to get these men in
00:48:17.040
trouble because we wanted to act like child prostitutes so again this comes from allegedly
00:48:23.140
the gordon brown government putting uh the circular that nazir afzal claims but i can't find any
00:48:30.160
evidence of of the general attitude is the the the these children are choosing this lifestyle and so
00:48:38.000
in fact the moral burden falls on them so you're 12 or 13 and you're being trafficked and raped and that
00:48:45.280
is as far as the police concerned your choice and you're the bad person here this this is very hard
00:48:50.060
to believe i i think any person who would say this is just obviously engaging in in a very very corrupt
00:48:57.280
activities it's you know i've got lots of friends from who are not who are from other countries who
00:49:03.320
find it hard to believe but there is it's totally believable if you were growing up in britain or
00:49:11.600
living that a 12 year old can consent sorry that a 12 year old can consent oh no no no it's not that
00:49:17.500
no no no obviously a 12 year old can't consent what i mean is is that the attitude of the people can be
00:49:24.200
flipped into this trusting more trusting that sorry that there are more trusting with respect to
00:49:31.920
no no no the attitude of the authorities all right so obviously the authorities are completely in the
00:49:36.120
wrong here and they should have identified others 12 year old there with an adult man she's being
00:49:41.640
raped by the adult man right that should have been yeah the baseline understanding right but a lot of
00:49:46.780
people from outside of britain don't understand the kind of conformity that there was in the 2000s
00:49:52.520
there was a there was a very powerful mainstream culture that was um that had it thought of itself as
00:50:01.460
having high standards but it also thought of itself as being the protector of minority groups right
00:50:08.340
and so the moral burden could never be placed on the minority group because it assumed in some way
00:50:14.440
they were kind of inferior or incapable of making decisions as agents and so the white girl even though
00:50:21.560
she's 12 she's treated as the agent who is operating on the gang itself rather than of course the other
00:50:28.580
way around which was how it was in reality and so the this whole stinking attitude pervaded all of these
00:50:37.480
institutions and it came from the labor party's sort of paternalistic racial condescension towards
00:50:44.540
minority groups they assume oh no the white girl obviously is oppressing these brown guys
00:50:48.880
yeah no i get it but it seems to me that they are not they they are paternalistic in a way that
00:50:55.760
doesn't say change your ways no not at all i'm your father and i know you're good and i care about you
00:51:01.180
it's the opposite it's just of course i mean they're they were they're gonna let you pray in my
00:51:05.580
population that's what it's yeah the labor government wants to preserve multiculturalism
00:51:09.900
and this kind of behavior from this kind of community is as far as they're concerned
00:51:16.280
essentially an authentic expression of that community that's how the labor so the the problem
00:51:21.980
is the girl who is allowing this to happen she's the one who is treated as the moral agent here by the
00:51:27.540
police not the not the gang members themselves and this this is literally something they end up
00:51:35.100
running defense for so if we go to the next one like like again this you would think
00:51:43.080
this wouldn't happen in the most abominable kind of fiction right it would seem unrealistic to write
00:51:51.440
a fiction about this but this is from the confession of one of the uh one of the victims
00:51:55.820
uh she says i was going missing and once i got added to a register of you know cse like at risk of cse
00:52:01.280
they stopped reporting me as a missing person in the normal way i didn't get reported as an actual
00:52:05.640
missing person i got reported as something else and added to a different register so the police
00:52:09.640
didn't actually look for me properly they didn't put as much effort into it because i was a persistent
00:52:14.160
missing person so my mom started ringing up the police station there was a conversation between her
00:52:18.080
and the police officer where she said that i was getting abused by asian males and he said that she
00:52:23.020
was racist for saying that and that she should be happy that i was getting taught a different culture
00:52:28.780
they believe this is a normal part of their culture and that it's acceptable for them to express that
00:52:37.740
through the abuse of english girls okay i'm much more willing to say that this is just all
00:52:44.640
excuses there they were just unbelievably corrupt and they were just sugarcoating it in the way they
00:52:51.440
thought that it was going to go to they were definitely corrupt but ideologically so yeah but this
00:52:57.500
actually confirms what you were saying about the the ideal the ideology of the of the times is that
00:53:03.000
they think that this is the language that would carry the message forward that if they sugarcoat it
00:53:11.020
into in multiculturalist terms being taught different cultures being open and tolerant that it would
00:53:17.820
stick yeah this but this is a true belief of these people right this is the thing and i i realize it's
00:53:24.840
hard to understand but it genuinely you know i i was an adult through the early 2000s okay these these
00:53:31.420
genuinely were the things they believed right and i again i realized that you know someone who wasn't
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here at the time maybe i don't know you know like no you know i'm very suspicious generally i know but
00:53:41.500
i've got lots of other friends from europe and other else places you know places that aren't britain who
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are like like like like v was just like there's no way the word racist has that much power in britain i was
00:53:51.740
like you don't even know you don't understand you know the the the culture of conformity in britain
00:53:58.420
in the early 2000s made this kind of horrific stuff possible because and it made the police officers
00:54:05.900
feel like they were doing the morally right thing right look at the look at the kind of high-handed
00:54:09.960
way he's talking you're a racist for saying that because that's what racist really means is the person
00:54:15.640
outside of the grace of polite society right that's what that means and you are getting taught a
00:54:20.840
different culture you should be appreciative of that like that is a moral assertion on the family
00:54:26.180
no i know they're raping and abusing your daughter but you're bad people and you should be thankful for
00:54:31.880
this is what the underlying message is and this is what they genuinely believed in the 2000s
00:54:37.280
and so like it just again it just gets worse it gets worse and worse right so here's one example of
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when a child went to the police they would tip off the abusers because they are fully committed
00:54:52.340
to the protection of the dignity of the community doing the abusing right and that's the thing it's
00:54:58.180
the the and so the abusers are themselves essentially kind of victims of these girls reporting the abuse
00:55:05.960
yeah so they uh he he says here the protection of offenders may have gone further still in at least
00:55:12.200
one case when a victim was found the courage to go to the police their abuser appears to have been
00:55:16.980
tipped off while still in the police station one child received a text from her abuser
00:55:22.040
informing her that he had her 11 year old sister and that was now your choice the child chose not to go
00:55:27.620
through with complaint as in they'd by the way the the girl you've been abusing is at the police
00:55:34.220
station about to level charges against you you just thought you should know and then so they literally
00:55:40.540
they then text her a threat to make her drop the complaint that is the police completely being
00:55:45.180
complicit completely defending and being in bed with the grooming gangs again you just have to
00:55:52.860
understand the culture of the time i swear to god so is it like that they were saying that uh by
00:55:58.500
accusing them of sexually abusing you you're you're an obstacle to their integration yeah well
00:56:06.940
yes but that what what they're doing is trying to protect the reputation of the pakistani community
00:56:15.360
in britain yeah and if you aren't consenting that this child isn't consenting to their own abuse
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then that means that this community is doing something very very bad to another community
00:56:26.940
yeah repeatedly and this will gather them a stigma uh and make essentially it will bring forth racism
00:56:37.440
and it would harm the multiculturalist narrative absolutely it will harm the multicultural utopia
00:56:42.580
and it will be a it will be a justified creation of racism in britain and so these girls have to have
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been making this choice for themselves and it's under this rubric of if you admit that this is a problem
00:56:58.620
and if you push this forward then you are essentially harming the muslim community in britain
00:57:04.460
that is why the police are on the side of the abusers and not the abuse they they view themselves
00:57:10.900
as trying to protect the entire community anyway question was it the police or was the police
00:57:17.040
order to do so because i i can understand well police officers being who are closer to people
00:57:24.160
being a bit resistance resistant to this but then you have a politician calling there are definitely
00:57:29.660
going to be some people in the police force who are resistant to this right however
00:57:35.240
many of the police are not exactly our best and brightest okay they don't really know why they're
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doing this but they do have their orders and they will follow their orders um this will happen in
00:57:50.660
all places in all times by the way uh they will do as they're told because they're not they they select
00:57:57.520
for people who are compliant in these forces and this isn't they they will see this the institution
00:58:07.620
itself is a big powerful institution with many layers above them and they're like well no this is the
00:58:12.620
moral justification you've been given these are the orders and so you kind of have to commit to that
00:58:17.240
so and that's the culture of slow habituation into accepting evil yes and because of the and again
00:58:24.640
you've got to remember this sort of the powerful mechanism of conformity that the 2000s liberal
00:58:30.920
culture of britain had it's it they you knew you were going to get moral reception from all of the
00:58:37.920
institutions you know the politicians the police the media the the councillors you know everyone
00:58:44.060
would have been on your side oh no good well done for preventing racism against the pakistani community
00:58:48.880
well done that's worse than allowing them to rape children right so that they they knew that they were
00:58:55.780
leaning into safety by doing this right which is why even now none of these people have been arrested
00:59:02.060
they probably still got their jobs like they're probably still on the beat as it is now right
00:59:06.800
so there's been no no comeuppance for this at all but anyway so you've got uh again just more from sam
00:59:16.820
here where police as recently as 2018 refusing to reopen dropped cases so the the case of uh victoria
00:59:25.080
goglia um who was herself um forcibly injected with a heroin overdose by her pedophile rapists
00:59:34.580
uh was ignored and the family has been seeking a new inquest in january 2023 so this is a persistent
00:59:42.600
problem that the family have been trying to get justice on and the police have refused to reopen the
00:59:49.900
case they're like no there's just they they think there's not enough evidence uh for them to do this
00:59:56.080
and so the police know they know that this is there they don't want to engage in it
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and even like i say even the family the grandmother's still pressing for this even to this day anyway
01:00:09.020
moreover let's carry on so at least a thousand girls in telford were abused by these gangs and again
01:00:17.480
the police decide they have to try and downplay it they have to try and cover it up they have to try
01:00:23.620
and essentially blame the victims in the circumstance so again quoting here uh above all there was concern
01:00:30.160
over community relations senior council staff were terrified that the abuse of children had the
01:00:35.560
potential to start a race riot the result was stasis despite officials acknowledging in at least one
01:00:40.540
case that abuse by asian men had gone on for years it had at least 1 000 girls
01:00:46.500
were abused in the town between 1980 and 2009 yet even this conservative estimate was disputed by
01:00:56.620
authority figures with west mercia police superintendent tom harding insisting in 2018
01:01:01.420
uh that the figure was sensationalized the independent review later found it entirely plausible
01:01:06.500
why would they be downplaying it well the answer is of course in the first paragraph they don't want
01:01:12.580
to create a race right they they want to preserve the harmony of multicultural britain and therefore
01:01:18.640
what they have to do is try and make it so that there is no legitimacy between the victimization
01:01:24.960
of one community on another this shows a the rampant cultural decline across europe i'm not singling
01:01:32.000
out the uk because this happens across europe and also in the us there's a moving away from common sense
01:01:39.200
when it comes to policing that says that the police is there to enforce the law and it isn't there as a moral
01:01:45.920
arbiter it isn't there to promote what um any person thinks is the high good oh yeah i saw a tweet by
01:01:54.720
tom holland the historian saying that uh that was a noble thing to do because the exactly that's
01:02:02.720
exactly yeah i can't understand this no no no and i think he doubled down 10 years afterwards yes exactly
01:02:08.560
but that's how can you say a thing like this exactly but this is precisely the kind of moral culture that
01:02:14.480
the 2000s britain had because the tony blair government brought in millions of foreigners and so
01:02:20.240
their primary concern is well we've got to make sure that they are safe and comfortable in britain
01:02:25.760
but nothing bad happens to them because we've essentially brought them into our country and so
01:02:31.120
and it and tom holland said you all know it was a noble goal yeah but the police is there as an
01:02:36.000
institution to keep everyone safe not just some people safe that's what that's remember they're
01:02:41.440
worried about a race riot because they're looking at the numbers they know there are way more english
01:02:45.760
people in britain than there are muslims yeah you know if their job is keeping people safe it's the
01:02:51.200
noble goal to make sure that the english don't have a negative opinion of the muslim community in
01:02:56.640
britain and that's literally and the tom holland thing it was perfect it was a perfect representation
01:03:02.000
it's like oh i know that is terrible but it was for a greater good it was for a noble goal you know we
01:03:07.040
need to make sure there's community and this this has been the the dominant paradigm and
01:03:14.560
principal motive for all of this is the protection of the muslim community against the majority
01:03:19.600
community yeah and this has given them cover to do all of this and again right so the telford thing is
01:03:24.080
just it's shocking absolutely staggering wow a thousand girls jesus telford must be like majority
01:03:31.040
muslim or something no telford is not majority muslim right there are in telford where's the uh
01:03:39.920
religion right 72 000 christians 4860 muslims as of 2021 right so let's just break those numbers down a
01:03:51.120
bit so half of those are going to be men so you've got 2400 and let's say 400 of those are children so
01:03:59.680
they can't have been involved in any of this that means that for every adult male about 2000 adult
01:04:05.600
men muslim men in telford there are a thousand victims one victim for every two men that's
01:04:12.880
unbelievable now you can see all of a sudden why you would they'd be worried oh my god if people
01:04:19.920
found out about this and started to view this as they started put together these numbers then they
01:04:26.880
would have a negative community of the muslim community a negative view of the muslim community
01:04:30.320
in telford wouldn't they yeah the problem with this is that people don't understand multiculturalism
01:04:35.360
doesn't create problems only when the the uh your population is the minority it creates problems
01:04:42.400
generally speaking yes and one of the reasons is that it doesn't have to be the majority once you
01:04:48.800
have a strong enough minority they can apply pressure and they can say we are gonna for we are going to
01:04:56.000
apply pressure for a renegotiation of the initial terms of cohabitation within a country they don't
01:05:03.200
even have to be a strong minority this is a tiny minority yeah right this you know literally i mean
01:05:08.560
i didn't mean strong in terms of numbers right right terms of yeah what they have though is just state
01:05:12.800
backing yeah the authorities you know the the the councillors the police the media the politicians the
01:05:20.080
governments are behind the minority and what the minority is doing yes you know and exactly you can you
01:05:25.360
you can just see it through their own words you know they will literally say this i mean tommy got
01:05:30.800
in trouble by saying well look from his investigations he thinks that 20 of the muslim men in telford were
01:05:36.960
involved in the prostituting and raping of children it's like maybe how else do 2 000 men end up
01:05:44.960
with a thousand victims unless a sizable percentage of them are involved in it it's like sorry i'm not
01:05:51.280
allowed to say that i'm probably in trouble i'll probably have to edit this out for youtube actually
01:05:55.200
this i don't know maybe maybe they're saying that right now it's that you don't know how far back it
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goes because well from 1980 yeah so if it's 30 years the population may have changed to something
01:06:08.400
that i i have no idea absolutely i'm not you know i'm not saying that you know that's the case
01:06:12.880
but the point is when you have numbers this large in a community this small yeah the natural
01:06:23.120
assumption is that it's a widespread phenomenon in that community well yeah i think that this
01:06:29.440
shows a lot about the the issue with the ideology you're describing as uh creating all this complexity
01:06:35.520
because the the idea initially was we can have people in different neighborhoods they're gonna
01:06:41.040
practice their own cultures so long as they respect a kind of common legal framework a kind
01:06:46.880
of moral ethic as well yeah but the problem is that this shows that nothing of the sort happened
01:06:53.120
there was no goodwill returned for goodwill yeah that was shown and what happened was that
01:07:01.200
when and this is what tends to happen in multicultural societies when you have a group whose uh
01:07:09.360
culture and whose numbers increase and their power increases and you have the power of the other
01:07:15.280
groups decreasing what they're gonna do is that they're gonna push for a renegotiation of that
01:07:20.960
legal framework or they're gonna say don't care about it at all yeah it'll just eventually become not an
01:07:26.320
issue um but anyway let's carry on because it's not like telford council were in any way um exempt from all
01:07:36.400
of this again as sam's pointing out right similar concerns applied to the council this is specifically
01:07:42.160
in telford council where anxieties over appearing racist saw safeguarding officers waving away concerns
01:07:48.800
simply because the perpetrators were asian it was felt that some suspects were not investigated
01:07:52.560
because it would not have been politically correct or it would have been politically incorrect
01:07:57.520
this is not to say the council did nothing aware that taxi drivers were offering children
01:08:01.360
rides for sex in 2006 it suspended license enforcement for drivers allowing high drift high
01:08:07.360
risk drivers to continue practicing
01:08:11.600
as opposed to jail as opposed to jail for raping children like again i know from an outside
01:08:18.320
perspective is very difficult to believe all of this right because it sounds preposterous but you you
01:08:25.760
have to remember that they are worried that people will have a negatively characteristic view of this
01:08:33.520
minority community and as people who are dogged multiculturalists they are insistent on defending
01:08:40.000
the honor and reputation of the community and it doesn't and they will do anything they will go to any
01:08:46.800
lengths to not be called racists right to negatively characterize a minority community is the highest bad
01:08:54.160
in this moral framework and they know it and they and this is why it keeps coming up
01:08:58.240
it was entirely born out of fear of accusations of racism and this is what the telford inquiry found
01:09:05.040
um so just to be clear right the people they were defending were themselves massive racists
01:09:12.800
right incredibly racist so charlie is another person who's done along with sam incredible work
01:09:19.280
and all of this honestly i'm i'm very glad i can showcase it right so he uh gives the example of
01:09:26.000
the rochdale ringleader who repeatedly just said well look everything being said against me is all white
01:09:32.480
lies as in it's just racial lies so and again he obviously targeted only english girls for racist reasons
01:09:41.920
um and this this is a persistent thing this is from um uh what's the chap's name um uh peter mclaughlin's
01:09:52.640
easy meat right where in uh the rochdale case he says and again it's the same guys it's the same guys right
01:10:00.480
we are the supreme race not these white bastards
01:10:03.680
why so the the ruling anti-racist philosophy of multiculturalism is directly protecting virulent
01:10:16.160
racists it's all about who is the ally of the left at each moment yes but it's it's they they are
01:10:22.800
doing everything they can to protect the good reputation of insane racists people who literally
01:10:29.760
will say we are the supreme race but this is mad absolutely mad it's maddening to have to deal with
01:10:36.240
right and this and the thing is that none of this is new right none of this is new it's just coming
01:10:39.360
to light now this has all been in the public domain for a long time they could all have found this
01:10:43.200
if they wanted to they just didn't want to and i've been talking about this since 2014
01:10:46.880
since the alexis j report came out so uh anyway the uh
01:10:53.680
the the the institutions of this country are preposterous it's preposterous um
01:10:58.080
um so again they know they knew that this was based on religion and ethnicity this kind of you
01:11:06.560
know the combination of the muslim community is not merely an ideologically or religiously bound
01:11:14.480
community it is also an ethnically bound community and everyone knows this and as the uh this this
01:11:20.560
particular judge notes um this was something that they recognized right they recognized in this
01:11:27.360
that these men were targeting the english girls because they were english and because they perceived
01:11:33.600
the english to be either christian or atheist and so they were like right not muslim not pakistani
01:11:40.240
fair game and this again it's been known for a long long time
01:11:46.160
and uh weirdly they decided you know what we're going to do is stop recording the ethnicity of the
01:11:52.720
suspects that's incredibly suspicious that's the admission of guilt it's the admission that we
01:11:58.800
failed exactly it's the admission look don't talk about it but again why would you do it why would
01:12:04.400
you do it unless you were determined to protect the good reputation of that particular community
01:12:10.160
yeah that's all that could be for that reminds me of machiavelli who says at some point in the press if
01:12:15.200
you want to do something that's going to be deeply unpopular do it fast and people will forget
01:12:19.440
about it and carry in with their lives yeah yeah so that that's a loss that's an admission of loss
01:12:24.720
yeah that is and but but again the the only reason to do it is because i mean like from a practical
01:12:30.800
policing perspective you've got okay i need to know what kind of person i'm looking for but if they
01:12:36.160
don't record it they have to have no practical reason not to record it it has to literally be
01:12:41.920
we know what the response will be and we don't want to stigmatize the community and so if this
01:12:49.360
this community keeps producing these problems then we'll just literally stop recording it so it
01:12:54.080
doesn't have to come up again um and of course keir starmer and his government are not interested in
01:13:00.880
carrying on the inquiry and i think it was ben habib who put it best on gb news recently uh when he says
01:13:07.280
look um i actually don't want another inquiry because we have plenty of inquiries we you know
01:13:11.760
there's there's been loads of inquiries uh what i would like and i agree with him completely is that
01:13:16.800
the police and any other authorities involved should be arrested and charged with being complicit and
01:13:23.360
they should go to jail and i completely agree with him on that you know let's go to some more comments
01:13:28.960
um right so there are lots of comments about people who are angry at the police and i appreciate
01:13:38.240
that um i'm going to uh summarize them by saying thank you for the donation and don't do or say
01:13:46.320
anything stupid especially if you live in britain uh we aren't a free country remember that please
01:13:52.400
and to the americans who have said things i can't say in britain i can't say that but i very much
01:13:57.360
appreciate your um your solace um connor smug mug says even as a pole living in poland my blood
01:14:07.120
boils at the mere idea that any of this can happen to my 12 and 14 year old cousins in britain yeah
01:14:14.080
i mean it's as simple as as the following idea is just some people want to have children and this
01:14:21.760
shouldn't be allowed it's as basic as that yeah again outside of the 2000s love actually consensus
01:14:31.440
this is a moral abomination and no one would even think about doing the right thing in this but we
01:14:38.480
are living in the ruins of that society and we are still dogged by the moral
01:14:45.520
like hegemony that it imposed the boat over us and i realize again it looks preposterous but trust me
01:14:52.960
that's genuinely how they felt it's genuinely how they felt um let's go to the video comments
01:14:59.200
this ennobles them to have a responsibility i know because my 15 year old daughter is as much a santa
01:15:03.920
enforcer as i am and anyone else is i don't know when she stopped
01:15:09.760
well my daughter's only two so she hasn't got her own set of power army yet that's the daughter
01:15:27.920
heresy yeah but uh but no i very much claim the throne let's go to the next one hello everyone
01:15:34.640
welcome to this week in stupid musk is staging a concerted attack on british democracy just
01:15:41.200
please stop gangs molesting children and paul mason's like battle stations full alert the far
01:15:47.120
right are on the march create an amplified coherent narrative of national unity democratic resilience
01:15:53.200
and social justice for what the are you talking about they're raping kids paul paul we want them
01:15:58.320
to stop raping kids why may i agree with myself i'm on stop that's all
01:16:15.120
what you're seeing on screen now ladies and gentlemen is a screenshot that i took of a recent guardian
01:16:23.760
article yes that really is the title i would like to propose this as a fun stelios cringe segment
01:16:37.120
stelios if you do happen to see this do you think this might be worth investigating
01:16:46.000
well i think that it's a fun point thanks sam but i i don't know
01:16:54.480
uh carl what do you think i i think it's actually interesting the framing on this um
01:17:01.200
because we've done a lot about erotic literature in wales we have the gay arthur oh yeah we did
01:17:06.960
actually didn't we i forgot about we need to have a we need to have a sequel i'm fine for us to do it
01:17:11.440
but like i think the framing is interesting that the the welsh culture is part of the node of
01:17:16.880
multiculturalism where they recognize that it's not part of the main english culture that could be
01:17:21.360
protected as if it were a foreign uh culture that needs special guarding yeah
01:17:31.440
half months of life expectancy it's also important to note his own wording he said
01:17:36.480
that he will be resigning after a new leader is chosen yes parliament is prorogued until march 24th
01:17:44.080
however they might not have a new leadership chosen that's just when they're allowed to go back
01:17:49.200
into the house with a clean slate all of a sudden and this lends to my theory that justin trudeau
01:17:55.840
refuses to leave and step down until he has the opportunity to host the g7
01:18:01.920
i mean to be fair and thanks alex for pointing it out i think the what we did as far as the segment
01:18:10.400
was concerned was to end by saying that it doesn't really matter because whoever comes afterward just
01:18:16.560
agrees with the same trudeau vision so if he if he just stays until he loses the next election or
01:18:21.600
something it it's immaterial as far as policies are concerned we but we are allowed to have fun
01:18:27.040
sometimes every time there is you know uh speculation about true i like the stelios asserting no we're
01:18:33.680
allowed to have fun yeah just welcome back to the gun channel of the lotus seeders this time we're
01:18:42.240
looking at a mauser sporting rifle chambered in 8x57 that was put together by the german gun makers guild
01:18:48.880
note the full-length rib on top of the barrel along with the double set triggers and the narrow sporting style stock
01:18:57.120
i have yet to find a load that it truly shoots well but i'm sure there's one to be had
01:19:07.280
man the sound of that loading is so satisfying yeah just sounds great and the shot sorry and the sound
01:19:13.440
of the oh yeah yeah and the sound of the shooting if we politically alienate the whole of islam we will
01:19:22.960
lose we'll lose when will the lesson be learned when will the lesson be learned how many more
01:19:32.480
dictators must be wooed appeased good god give any mixed privileges before we learn you cannot reason with
01:19:43.520
that tiger when your head is in its mouth
01:19:50.320
fair point i don't think winston churchill would have appeased islam
01:19:55.760
i have a question about this
01:19:58.640
on the subject of
01:20:02.560
you know feminists uh shaving their heads to defy trump i find it funny that they're essentially
01:20:08.400
making themselves look like the women that collaborated with the germans during world war
01:20:12.720
ii which is apropos because the feminists are also trying to assist in invading
01:20:17.840
horde to despoil their country although honestly i think i'd be a bit more sympathetic to the
01:20:23.120
old-timey collaborators because you could make an economic argument that they were just
01:20:27.440
hooking up with guys that could get them food during a time of famine
01:20:30.640
i don't know it's it's again i think it's all about who is the ally of the left at each moment sure
01:20:46.080
yeah um north fc zuma says it says carlin the stelios in the video description yeah so i'm going to call
01:20:53.360
him the stelios uh especially after that intro oh yeah specifically to denote the one and only
01:21:01.200
stelios uh the proletariat says stelios was trying out for a position at super earth's ministry of
01:21:06.320
truth with that eulogy it was quite good i have to say thank you uh andrew says uh the only shame
01:21:11.280
is that for people like trudeau biden etc will never be held to account in this life of their
01:21:15.200
blatant corruption the only punishment is their public humiliation and even that is neutered by
01:21:20.320
the media praise for their legacy yeah it is very frustrating honestly uh grant does point out
01:21:27.040
that the legal legalization of marijuana was an extremely popular policy when he got elected
01:21:31.760
um yeah and that's it's been in kind of liberal circles for a long time that this should be something
01:21:36.640
that is done um and honestly i used to think the same myself back when i was a liberal but i've come
01:21:42.240
to the conclusion that no actually i don't want it it stinks ban it so you know chase says uh
01:21:49.760
canadian liberals routinely dismiss his black faces base as a baseless conservative talking
01:21:54.000
point what are there not photos are there not enough photos of him in blackface he felt bad
01:22:01.600
so he apologized he felt bad yeah yeah um they're literally under some sort of sick spell that is
01:22:08.320
true 100 true liberalism is a kind of spell and again it's this sort of spell that allowed the police
01:22:13.840
to be like well she's just going to bring this community into disrepute right you know what we're
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gonna have a momentary truce truce on this but i will say i hate one of the reasons why i hate
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this party is because they're giving their name to the worst policies giving justification what a
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coincidence that they just happen to be liberals and they're doing the worst things that liberalism can do
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ah just saying stelios there's an alternative route out of liberalism
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uh afraid bentos for every haitian says i'm sure trudeau would be very comfortable in his new job at
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the tony blair institute yeah that's the thing that bothers me is these people are just forever
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going to fail upwards into the globalist do you think he's smart enough to be a member of it i think
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he's been a loyal enough soldier yeah so what are they going to make him a cleaner or something well
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they might i don't know what his actual job will be but he will have he will be protected by these
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institutions he's been loyal to them in the same way that jacinda ardern is
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baron von warhawk says you willing to step down from power you're no son of mine the ghost of fidel
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fidel castro that's very good um carl sliding into elon's dm says at this point anyone who
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disagrees with insect intersectional globalism is effectively far right correct the term means
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nothing anymore and kia showed that using the term against those concerned with the mass rape of
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children that's correct it it means not part of the global liberal agenda that's what it means
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in opposition to it caroline says is it too much to ask that when my daughter comes home from school
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and floods of tears the first thing that empties my head will be something other than has she been
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raped keir starmer and jess phillips yes that is too much excuse me for you to ask you far right racist
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yeah as i mean i've got two daughters i'm just as terrified man i swear to god like it it never used
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to be this way never used to be this way umar says and i can't even imagine how bad it is in places
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like rochdale or telford or bradford because i or just i'll continue listing the names because the
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the more working class you get the yeah the more working class the worst it is because i live in
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like a nice middle-class suburb in the south right so you know i'm probably going to be okay my daughters
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are probably okay but these people have to live cheap by jowl with the community that is doing the
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victimizing every day they have to be exposed to them it's just terrible man i genuinely hate it
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omar says something that i think doesn't come across in the discourse that americans find
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difficulty understanding they just really loathe the working class yeah well i mean that's the thing
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a lot of this is definitely going to be inflicted on the working class deliberately by the labor
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government you know rubbing their noses in it and and mandelson said it didn't matter if they
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alienate the working class vote because quote where else they're going to go it's like well
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thank god they can go somewhere else now
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uh henry says trudeau and starmer are just examples of the modern leader to me a weaponized
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sociopath who stands for nothing toes the party line and when they lose face throw everything
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they can at the people who've made them look bad no matter how disproportionate that may be
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that's a great description yeah the modern again i've been calling the like the love actually leaders
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because they they are representative of the moral consensus of the early 2000s but it's as if they're not
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there it's as if they're not there yeah yeah like the steel worker who was confronting trudeau and
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trudeau was responding to him as if he told him something completely different yeah yeah literally
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like an ai program yeah just just chat gpt talking i think you get more out of chat gpt to be honest
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the unbreakable litany says labor has aiding and abetted the grooming gangs aiding and abetting is on
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the subject i should think and jess phillips is a labor mp um jimbo says uh i genuinely
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wonder whether npc starmer even knows what he's saying at this point in a matter of days
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elon has him like a trollop in the stocks uh yeah i know elon like i don't think the labor
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party understand just how bad they look at the moment like in i mean i i've got lots of friends
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internationally obviously via social media who are just like yeah the people in this country
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think this is gross because of course they're not getting like the in our country the media can
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like try and massage the narrative and be like oh no we'll just pump out wall to wall propaganda
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on how elon musk is actually a bad person for bringing this up but you're not getting that
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in other countries you know they're like why would we talk about this and so people are only getting
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elon musk and his 200 million followers being like oh my god oh my god they're not getting the counter
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narrative constantly pumped into the soft heads of the public uh and so like they i don't think they
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understand how much on borrowed time they are about this but um and again the the arrogance of the
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moral certainty that they stand on to be like oh no what we because they really think what we're
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doing is preventing racism against pakistanis by defending the grooming gangs they really think this
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and it's like it reminds me of the minotaur story it's like you sacrifice some children for
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something you consider to be the greater good yeah well you know you don't want the minotaur eating
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everyone else um and then uh jimbo says uh i know i read that one sorry um bleach demon says
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before i know the discussion has been had before about why specific outlets can cannot stand stronger
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against this overt and violent rampant abuse of english girls but for the life of me i cannot
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fathom why there haven't been mass protests there were the edl was a mass protest against this
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and the establishment cracked down on them like nothing else um so and again you you will end up
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becoming like tommy robinson totally ostracized from society unable to get a bank account deprived of
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your property deplatformed from everything made into a pariah by polite society so like it's difficult
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to go to places like you know tommy can't like go and get a can't go to a nice restaurant in london and
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get a seat you know what i mean like if they were what tom no we can't have him you know he'll so
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like that's why people don't speak out because they still have this kind of control and it's
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only until that's broken and it becomes acceptable to speak out that things can become any better
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um the proletariat says sex slavery exists in every islamic culture where the west is unable to enforce
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social norms by the diplomatic or military pressure the abuse is actually the islamic norm the only
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way to fix it is the same course of action by which sati was ended in india it's time to build some
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gallows well it's honestly i mean i don't really care what they do over there it's not my business
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we're not an imperial power we just should be in control of the kind of behavior that happens here
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um brian says two-tier secret queer gear has drawn his demarcation line if you support the rape of
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english children by pakistani pedo gangs vote labor if you are normal don't vote labor and that's
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literally all it comes down to anyway thank you for joining us folks um sorry i couldn't be more
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jolly with my segments but so it just has to be covered doesn't it i don't i'd rather do something
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frivolous frankly but it's not that the true that's not frivolous that's you know it's something
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important that's happened but um but this is just constantly on my mind because elon's filling my
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timeline with it which is a good thing and so i thought i'd cover it so thank you for joining us
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folks and we'll see you tomorrow same time
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