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- February 07, 2025
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1096
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 7th of February, 2025.
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It's Friday, so the best day of the week. I'm joined by Stelios and Rafe Manku.
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Sorry, how do I pronounce your name?
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Rafe Hadel Manku.
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Rafe Hadel Manku. I'm really sorry. I'm terrible with names. I can barely speak English.
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This is a microaggression number one.
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Yes, it is.
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Anyway, today we're going to be talking about how reform are looking inevitable
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and the difference between governments that will do something and won't do something
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and just want to manage the decline
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and how finally Britain might actually start taking nuclear power seriously.
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A drum I've been banging for quite some time.
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But honestly, I'm just so frustrated by the radical activism that surrounds energy production
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that it's just one of those things that finally we're going to get the Gordian knot cut.
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Anyway, right, let's begin.
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So, seven months ago I made a video saying,
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look, Nigel Farage may well end up as Prime Minister of this country.
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Whether you like him or loathe him, it looks like there is a lot of energy behind him
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and he is playing a wise game, actually, in what he's doing,
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again, whether you agree with him or not.
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And this seems to be paying off.
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And the more time passes, the more it looks like the prediction in this video...
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I try not to make predictions, but I can't help it sometimes.
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The prediction in this video is going to come to pass
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because only a few weeks ago, the end of January,
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Labour were barely in the lead in various polls in the UK.
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And then reform started coming ahead.
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And again, this is January the 30th.
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Coming ahead in polls that are not polls done by right-wing friendly pollsters.
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For example, Find Out Now, very milquetoast.
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Stats for Lefties has posted a YouGov poll here.
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YouGov being famously slanted in One Direction because it's an online poller.
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It happens to get a lot of left-wing people signing up for it.
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Again, self-selected online polls.
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But even in that, reform are ahead of the Labour Party
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and significantly ahead of the Conservative Party.
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And so that must be great news for Nigel.
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It must be bad news for the establishment.
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And it keeps getting worse.
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But let's pause on this for a minute.
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So this, again, was about the beginning of this week, actually.
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And so that's going to result in a hung parliament.
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Yeah, I mean, let's be clear here, right?
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Labour has a stonking majority of 440-odd seats.
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They have two-thirds of the seats in parliament,
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despite only having one-third of the vote share, 33% they've got.
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In fact, since the Second World War,
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no government has been elected with the majority of the votes.
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You only need to have around a third under first-past-the-post.
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So there is a clear path to power.
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We're still in early days.
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I mean, the amount by which support for reform has increased in just a few months,
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they could easily find themselves well within,
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well over 35% or so by the time we get to the next election.
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And it should be a wake-up call.
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I mean, look, the reality is, you know,
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60% of this country still votes for left-wing parties.
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The only reason we've had a number of Conservative governments
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is because there's only been one party on the right.
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The left-wing votes split between SNP, Lib Dem, Greens, Labour, Plaid Cymru and so forth.
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And we always thought we couldn't have two parties on the right
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because you would never have a Conservative government
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or a right-leaning government again.
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Reform has shown that you can do that
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because reform is actually taking votes not just from the Tories,
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it's taking them from Labour.
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And fundamentally important here,
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three million people who didn't vote at all in 2024 have come over.
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It also puts a lie to those wet Tories who said,
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oh, no, no, during the Prime Ministerial campaign,
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oh, we need to, you know, we forget about reform,
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we need to lean more to the Lib Dems and get those votes.
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Well, we know only 180,000 people who left the Tory party
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went over to the Lib Dems.
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1.2 million went to reform.
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It is actually reform that's now setting the agenda.
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That's why you're seeing now,
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Kimi Badenoch finally setting her sights
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and giving us at least one policy on immigration.
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Milquetoast, though it still is,
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to try and counter reform.
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You know, Rupert Lowe I spoke with in November,
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well, October last year,
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and he said very confidently,
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we're going to form the next government.
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I thought that was hugely optimistic,
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although not impossible,
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but I think he was obviously seeing stuff
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that I wasn't privy to at the time.
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Sorry, go on, sir.
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Oh, I just wanted to say that a lot of Labour defenders and advocates,
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they forget that the Labour vote was a vote of,
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let's say, dissatisfaction with the Tories.
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It wasn't a vote for love for Starmer's agenda.
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Well, you know, I'm not even persuaded by that, to be honest.
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That is the sort of common narrative,
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but I don't think that Conservative voters tend to go over to Labour.
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And we can see this through the paucity of votes
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that Labour got in the last election.
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I mean, out of all of the voters who could have voted,
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Labour got a fifth of them.
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What happens with right-wing voters
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is they don't vote for Labour as a protest.
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They just don't vote at all.
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And so we, in the last election,
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we saw that 40% of the entire potential voter base
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just didn't vote,
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presumably out of massive dissatisfaction.
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And so Nigel Farage had come in
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and cut the legs out from underneath the Conservative Party,
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which, under first-past-the-post,
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puts Labour, with their third of the vote share
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in each constituency, over the top,
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giving them this huge majority,
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and then underneath the simmering fight
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between Conservatives and reform.
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And the Conservatives are very clearly losing that.
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And to be honest with you, I'm quite glad.
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The Conservatives have presided over
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possibly the biggest betrayal of the British electorate
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that's ever happened.
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Hard to think of anyone who'd done more damage
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to the country than Boris Johnson, actually.
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And that's something to say,
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given what Tony Blair ushered into this country.
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And of course, whenever, you know,
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for years when we discussed the plight of mass immigration,
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we always cited Tony Blair
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as being the most dangerous Prime Minister we've ever had.
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Well, I'm sorry, what he did pales in comparison
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to what a Conservative government did
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in terms of immigration.
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Not just the numbers, but also the sources
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of the immigrants who were coming here.
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And there can be no greater crime, I would think,
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than actually, you know, in my view,
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signing the death warrant of this nation.
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It's really hard to contest that.
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Which suggests several commonalities
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in the practice agenda.
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Well, I have a bit of a difference there.
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We know why Labour wanted mass immigration,
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in large part because 80% of ethnic minorities
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vote for the Labour Party.
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So the thinking there was,
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if we import millions of people,
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remember Peter Mandelson sent out search parties
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looking for immigrants.
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The idea was, in the decades to come,
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you would have a new demographic
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that would ensure that the Labour Party
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had majorities in all the elections.
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And if you look at London,
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you look at Birmingham and these places,
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these are essentially becoming one-party states, right?
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With the Tories, it was rather different
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because the Tories were beholden to big business
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and the CBI and so forth.
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And big business, rather than invest
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in expensive capital infrastructure,
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you know, job automation, mechanisation,
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machines that can pick apples and orchards
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and so forth, they decided to flood the nation
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with cheap labour, which would suppress wages
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and negate the need for that costly investment,
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which is why we're in the mess we're in now.
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That's why I sort of think Japan,
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everyone said, well, you know, Japan,
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the oldest population in the world,
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it needs immigration.
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I think they may come out of this
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as actually being the sanest people of all
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because AI, robotics and healthcare,
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social work and so forth,
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may actually come in the end of the day
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to save Japan.
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That should have been the model we went down.
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Oh, absolutely.
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So just on this map,
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I think this is fascinating.
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I mean, if you look at the north of England,
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which is normally just completely red,
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not only is it not red at all,
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but it's also giving over to the Conservatives
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by this prediction,
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which I think is fascinating.
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So the Labour vote has collapsed so utterly,
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it's now a scramble for the north,
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for the Reform Party and the Conservative Party,
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which are, of course,
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not parties you would normally have associated with them.
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And I think it's very optimistic
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to think that the Conservatives
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would be able to win that as well
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because there's,
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I think there's something about Nigel Farage
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that is a kind of totemic Englishman.
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He is, in many ways,
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appealing on those grounds.
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And he's got an unpretentious image,
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I think,
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when he's in the pub
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and associating with people,
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that is something that really does
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actually swing people.
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And I think a lot of people's love of Donald Trump
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is,
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oh, he's a lot like me.
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Whether you like it or not,
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representation actually does matter.
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And I think that perhaps choosing
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Kemi Badenok
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as the leader of the Conservative Party
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isn't going to swing those guys over,
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not because they hate black people
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or something like that,
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but just because they don't see themselves in her.
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Farage has good energy
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and you need good energy to win elections,
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Badenok just doesn't have it.
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Yeah.
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I think that's quite,
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it's a good point you make then.
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And I think that is their sort of strategy here
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because, you know,
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people, your viewers at home,
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my view is the new cultural forum,
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we all want reform and Farage
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to be much stronger
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on things like immigration.
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And we're hugely disappointed
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that he's not.
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I often cite the statistic that,
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you know,
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men under 44 in this country
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are more likely to vote for Trump
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than for Farage.
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But obviously,
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what they're doing is winning.
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And you have to remember
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that we actually,
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those people,
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people who hold our views,
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unfortunately,
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we're still in the minority.
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And Farage is speaking
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to the great population as a whole.
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And I almost think
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it's like a good cop,
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bad cop or a tag team duo
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between him and Rupert Lowe.
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Rupert Lowe doesn't have
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national recognition.
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People don't really know him
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in the country,
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but our people know him.
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He is speaking our language.
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So we feel someone's fighting
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our corner in reform
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and Nigel speaking to the rest
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of the nation who think,
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oh, actually,
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reform's not that bad.
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And I think that might be
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the reasoning there.
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It's actually a winning strategy
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and it's clearly working.
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One thing I'm approval,
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one thing I really approve of
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is how this is causing chaos
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in both Labour
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and the Conservatives.
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So it was reported recently
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that CCHQ staff
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are holding a crisis meeting
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today of the lack of funding
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of the current polling situation.
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And so they don't really
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know what to do.
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And Kemi Badenok
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didn't exactly show
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a great deal of leadership
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on this
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because she just told them
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to quit if they can't deliver
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on fundraising or campaigning.
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One campaign manager
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apparently said,
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how can we campaign
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when we've got no policies
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to campaign on?
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Which presumably is the source
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of the very milquetoast,
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if they've been here for 10 years
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rather than five years,
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we'll give them visas.
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It's like,
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why are we giving any,
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why are they here?
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Why are they here?
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They can go home.
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They've got homes of their own.
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That's where they belong.
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And the irony is,
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if they want a raft of policies,
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they just have to look
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at Robert Jenrick's Twitter feed
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to find all the policies
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that actually would actually
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have increased
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their polling numbers
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very clearly.
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And of course,
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as we on the right
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were hoping for,
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the reform and the Tories
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would try to outflank each other
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and Jenrick could have pulled
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Farage actually more to the right,
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which is a great deal.
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But I'm sure the Tories
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are feeling bias remorse.
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I'm just amazed
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that there's still anybody
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in the north of England
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who would vote for the Tory party,
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having been betrayed,
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not only on immigration,
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but on levelling up
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and everything else.
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I mean,
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you know,
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the definition of insanity
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is to keep voting
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for the same...
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Conservatives are creatures
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of habit.
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That is very...
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That's a sad truth.
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Definitely true, yeah.
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But yeah,
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no,
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that's a great point
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because there are so many things
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on which the Conservatives
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have just betrayed everyone.
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And I don't want to give them
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the benefit of the doubt,
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but it really just seems
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like weakness to me.
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I'm sure that most
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of the Conservative Party members
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and most of their MPs
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in the sort of generic mould
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aren't people who hate
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the United Kingdom
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and want the worst for it.
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I just can't help but notice
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they don't seem to have any balls.
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They can't stand up for anything.
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And when they do,
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they get kind of defence...
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Well,
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not defence rate,
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but selected against
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in the way that Jemreq was.
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Well,
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and just remember
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that the average Tory MP
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is to the left
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of the average British person
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on immigration.
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That says it all.
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Also,
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of course,
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remember,
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the Tory party
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isn't a Conservative party.
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It's a neoliberal party
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full of free market extremists
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who don't believe
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in borders either,
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who are globalists.
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You know,
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the clue...
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Conservatism,
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the clue is in the name.
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It's about conserving society.
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Every strata of society,
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every class...
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Yeah,
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the class called Conservatism.
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...needs to be protected,
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you know.
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That's not true conservatism
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in Birkian ways.
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It's not Scrutonian conservatism.
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And the party should be renamed,
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actually.
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Well,
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it should die,
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perhaps,
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whilst it's being renamed.
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Well,
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speaking of it dying,
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they clearly feel
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the winds of change coming.
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Because Jacob Rees-Mogg
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has recently said,
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look,
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reform and the Conservatives
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need an alliance.
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Now,
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I'm not a member
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of either party,
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and I would be happy
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to support either party
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if they were doing
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what I wanted them to do.
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So actually,
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on this,
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I'm kind of neutral.
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I really don't mind,
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you know,
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which one gets the job done
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as long as the job is done.
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And as a kind of
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dispassionate observer,
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I can't help but notice
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this is a profound statement
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of weakness
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from a party
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that feels like
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it's probably mortally wounded.
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Farage is eating you alive.
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Why would he want an alliance?
00:13:31.500
Yeah,
00:13:31.720
for the world's oldest
00:13:32.840
and most successful
00:13:33.600
political party
00:13:34.480
to now be calling
00:13:35.660
for an alliance
00:13:36.400
shows you their weakness
00:13:37.280
because they were
00:13:37.900
so arrogant before.
00:13:39.120
They would never think
00:13:39.920
about any of that.
00:13:40.940
They even refused
00:13:41.580
to stand down seats
00:13:42.560
in the 2019 election.
00:13:44.280
And Farage did.
00:13:45.100
Yeah,
00:13:45.760
for Farage.
00:13:47.680
And,
00:13:48.080
you know,
00:13:48.880
quite simply,
00:13:49.780
if you look at
00:13:50.580
the state of the Tory party,
00:13:53.240
Canada offers
00:13:54.200
the example there.
00:13:55.280
The Reform Party
00:13:55.920
doesn't need an alliance.
00:13:56.820
It needs to do
00:13:57.420
a hostile takeover
00:13:58.540
of the Tory party.
00:14:00.220
Back in 1993,
00:14:01.520
the Conservative government
00:14:02.460
and the Progressive
00:14:03.520
Conservative Party
00:14:04.360
of Canada,
00:14:04.880
there's an oxymoron
00:14:05.640
for a name,
00:14:06.460
the Progressive government
00:14:07.000
went down from being
00:14:07.700
the ruling government
00:14:08.980
to having only two seats
00:14:10.060
in Parliament.
00:14:11.040
And the Reform Party
00:14:12.020
of Canada,
00:14:13.140
which was basically
00:14:13.780
a Western party of Canada
00:14:15.060
of the Prairies
00:14:15.620
and so forth,
00:14:16.700
they became the biggest
00:14:17.680
right-wing party
00:14:18.460
and essentially
00:14:19.220
they took over
00:14:20.040
the fledgling PCs
00:14:22.040
and they created
00:14:22.980
a new Conservative Party
00:14:24.020
which you see today
00:14:24.760
which is much more
00:14:25.740
right-wing than the old PCs
00:14:26.880
led by Pierre Piolliver.
00:14:28.520
That's what needs
00:14:29.280
to happen in this shape.
00:14:30.500
No alliance,
00:14:31.460
hostile takeover.
00:14:33.060
Maybe it was just me
00:14:34.360
but it seems to me
00:14:35.180
that the Tories
00:14:35.840
had zero arguments
00:14:36.680
in the previous elections
00:14:37.720
and the only argument
00:14:39.080
they had was
00:14:39.840
a vote for reform
00:14:41.220
is a vote
00:14:41.780
that is splitting the right
00:14:42.900
and on this rationale
00:14:45.080
right now
00:14:45.800
a vote for Conservative
00:14:47.040
for Tories
00:14:48.640
is splitting the right.
00:14:49.600
Well, that's assuming
00:14:52.080
the Conservatives
00:14:52.780
have any
00:14:53.320
left in the right
00:14:54.920
No, I'm just saying
00:14:55.680
that they are losing
00:14:56.480
on the ground
00:14:58.000
of their own rhetoric.
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You're being absolutely correct.
00:15:01.700
And so yeah,
00:15:02.460
I mean,
00:15:02.920
Zia Youssef
00:15:03.760
noticed this
00:15:05.580
and obviously replied
00:15:06.720
well,
00:15:07.460
why would we need that?
00:15:08.840
We're going to win
00:15:09.860
a decisive victory
00:15:10.820
and to be honest with you
00:15:11.860
I think they're on track
00:15:13.380
to do so.
00:15:14.620
It looks more and more
00:15:16.120
like, in fact,
00:15:17.400
reform are going to be
00:15:19.760
the next party of government
00:15:21.020
and all we're going
00:15:22.200
to have to do
00:15:22.640
is just wait out
00:15:23.540
this zombie Labour government
00:15:25.100
until they finally collapse.
00:15:26.920
I mean,
00:15:27.220
just as a quick point
00:15:28.180
on that, Rafe,
00:15:29.040
how long do you think
00:15:30.120
Starmer can possibly last for?
00:15:32.120
Well, it's a good question.
00:15:33.140
I've been asked before.
00:15:34.160
It's impossible to predict
00:15:35.200
any of these sorts of things.
00:15:37.120
Who's going to succeed him
00:15:38.440
with the Dawn Angela Ring?
00:15:40.040
I mean,
00:15:40.700
who's going to improve
00:15:41.720
the lot and chances,
00:15:43.200
Clive Lewis?
00:15:43.940
It's difficult to think
00:15:45.000
of who's going to be there
00:15:46.400
but, you know,
00:15:47.400
the media establishment
00:15:48.480
are also sort of,
00:15:49.500
you know,
00:15:49.880
protecting him so much
00:15:51.280
from all of these sorts
00:15:52.440
of secret stories
00:15:53.940
and scandals
00:15:54.600
that are existing.
00:15:56.100
I don't know,
00:15:56.800
it's impossible to say
00:15:57.520
but in any event,
00:15:59.900
I did say
00:16:01.160
when he first got to power
00:16:02.360
that it would be impossible
00:16:03.400
to see how this majority
00:16:04.920
could go away
00:16:05.800
in five years
00:16:06.560
but, of course,
00:16:07.760
reform is nipping
00:16:08.560
at the heels
00:16:09.180
and so many,
00:16:09.900
and we've just seen this
00:16:10.760
and I think, you know,
00:16:11.700
whether it's,
00:16:13.340
whoever's leading it,
00:16:14.880
we just have to look forward
00:16:15.700
to the four years' time.
00:16:17.400
Yeah, so I mean,
00:16:18.180
for anyone who's not British
00:16:19.360
and doesn't know
00:16:19.880
how the system works,
00:16:20.520
basically,
00:16:21.260
there's no legal mechanism
00:16:22.320
for us to be able
00:16:22.840
to get rid of Starmer
00:16:23.880
any earlier than
00:16:25.040
he wants to go.
00:16:26.540
It would have to come
00:16:27.420
from within the Labour Party
00:16:28.360
themselves
00:16:28.760
and they're not really
00:16:29.660
inclined to give up power
00:16:30.920
once they seize it
00:16:31.840
because Labour often
00:16:33.040
spends decades
00:16:33.860
out of power
00:16:34.580
and so,
00:16:35.660
to enact their,
00:16:36.400
what is essentially
00:16:36.940
a communist agenda,
00:16:38.020
they need to cling on to it
00:16:39.700
for as long as they can.
00:16:41.100
But there does have to come
00:16:42.260
a time where literally,
00:16:43.740
you know,
00:16:43.940
everyone's like,
00:16:44.760
here,
00:16:44.940
you're destroying the party.
00:16:46.380
You have to go.
00:16:47.520
The Tories are notorious
00:16:48.620
for actually,
00:16:49.500
you know,
00:16:49.880
defenestrating their leaders
00:16:51.280
when they're not winners
00:16:52.040
but Labour Party,
00:16:53.040
for some reason,
00:16:53.920
holds on to them.
00:16:55.340
But there has to come
00:16:56.520
a time where,
00:16:57.640
okay,
00:16:57.900
Kier,
00:16:58.280
you are in charge
00:16:59.080
and no one can make you leave
00:17:00.240
but everyone around you
00:17:01.380
is saying,
00:17:01.660
look,
00:17:01.700
I mean,
00:17:01.980
if Labour gets to sort of,
00:17:03.380
you know,
00:17:03.960
19,
00:17:04.740
18% of the polls,
00:17:05.980
surely they're going to
00:17:06.480
look,
00:17:06.680
Kier,
00:17:06.780
you're going to destroy
00:17:07.440
our party.
00:17:08.560
You just have to go
00:17:09.800
and there will come a point
00:17:11.560
where the pressure will mount
00:17:12.960
and even someone as disensouled
00:17:16.500
as Kier Starmer
00:17:17.380
will have to understand
00:17:18.340
that it's time.
00:17:20.540
So I would be surprised
00:17:21.700
if Kier Starmer actually
00:17:22.400
does last out the full five years.
00:17:24.120
But of course,
00:17:24.360
one of the other things
00:17:24.840
we should point out
00:17:25.440
about Labour,
00:17:26.040
of course,
00:17:26.300
is that their decline
00:17:27.480
hasn't just gone to reform,
00:17:28.680
of course,
00:17:29.020
it's also a fact
00:17:29.960
that many people on the left
00:17:31.080
feel,
00:17:32.040
you know,
00:17:32.160
people like the Owen Joneses
00:17:33.240
of this world
00:17:33.840
feel that the Labour Party
00:17:34.820
isn't left-wing enough,
00:17:36.000
you know,
00:17:36.180
as if Stalin wasn't very left-wing.
00:17:38.800
And also,
00:17:39.880
the Muslim vote,
00:17:40.560
of course,
00:17:40.880
has departed and left,
00:17:42.020
you know,
00:17:42.340
because of the,
00:17:43.060
you saw,
00:17:43.860
just as big as the Reform Party
00:17:45.460
results in the last election
00:17:46.980
was the election
00:17:47.620
of five Muslim vote MPs.
00:17:49.100
And of course,
00:17:49.780
you know,
00:17:50.380
Labour's prediction
00:17:51.040
that 80% of ethnic minorities
00:17:52.380
will vote for Labour
00:17:53.140
didn't take that into account.
00:17:54.760
So they've invited in
00:17:55.620
the very forces
00:17:56.260
that are undermining it.
00:17:57.480
Yes,
00:17:57.720
they fail to understand
00:17:58.480
that actually,
00:17:59.060
if you allow them
00:17:59.520
to concentrate in certain areas,
00:18:01.180
then they can just vote
00:18:01.900
for themselves.
00:18:03.300
And honestly,
00:18:03.980
at the next election,
00:18:04.580
we'll probably see
00:18:05.020
a Muslim party of Britain
00:18:06.060
that wins seats.
00:18:07.460
By the way,
00:18:08.280
thanks Labour,
00:18:08.920
thanks Tony Blair,
00:18:09.500
thanks Boris.
00:18:10.580
Much appreciated
00:18:11.380
for all of that.
00:18:12.120
Anyway,
00:18:12.520
but good for Reform,
00:18:13.640
and good for Rupert Lowe here
00:18:14.500
pointing out,
00:18:15.220
this is historic,
00:18:16.040
and he's absolutely right,
00:18:17.080
but that is a really
00:18:18.120
sizable lead.
00:18:19.440
A four-point lead in this,
00:18:20.860
again,
00:18:21.260
find out now poll.
00:18:21.980
Again,
00:18:22.620
it's not like
00:18:23.320
a right-wing pollster.
00:18:25.560
It's not Matthew Goodwin
00:18:26.740
who's done a poll
00:18:27.640
and found Reform
00:18:28.360
in the lead or anything.
00:18:29.080
No,
00:18:29.320
these are people
00:18:30.280
who obviously
00:18:30.740
don't have any sympathy.
00:18:31.720
And so when you
00:18:32.300
start mapping it out,
00:18:34.340
my God.
00:18:35.780
And it's many different polls.
00:18:37.160
It's not just one.
00:18:38.640
Well,
00:18:39.100
I think this is just
00:18:40.020
from the Find Out Now poll.
00:18:42.960
Yeah,
00:18:43.360
it's just one poll.
00:18:44.440
But still,
00:18:45.140
it's representative
00:18:46.320
of a trend
00:18:47.120
where Reform
00:18:48.180
have been in the lead
00:18:49.220
now consistently
00:18:49.820
for a week
00:18:50.620
in these polls.
00:18:52.080
And so what you can see
00:18:53.280
for anyone,
00:18:53.940
what we can see
00:18:54.460
for anyone listening
00:18:55.020
is a complete collapse
00:18:56.860
of the Conservatives,
00:18:57.680
basically.
00:18:58.580
The Labour Party
00:18:59.460
has clawed back
00:19:01.840
potentially a few
00:19:03.280
districts in the north,
00:19:05.560
but England,
00:19:06.540
basically,
00:19:07.040
England is going to Farage.
00:19:08.180
And it reinforces
00:19:09.360
how divided
00:19:10.020
our kingdom is
00:19:10.860
because you just have to
00:19:11.700
look at Scotland
00:19:12.380
to see that
00:19:13.120
all the disillusionment
00:19:14.400
with Labour
00:19:15.160
has made people
00:19:16.400
go back
00:19:16.960
to that awful
00:19:18.280
corrupt organisation,
00:19:19.420
the SNP.
00:19:20.520
You've got to be
00:19:20.920
very desperate
00:19:21.540
to actually think
00:19:22.440
of the SNP
00:19:23.160
as being a better
00:19:24.240
vote than Labour.
00:19:25.460
So again,
00:19:26.140
you know,
00:19:26.560
the Tories and Reform
00:19:27.880
unable to make
00:19:28.680
inroads in Scotland.
00:19:30.420
Yeah,
00:19:30.660
they've never had
00:19:31.240
any good messaging
00:19:31.860
on that.
00:19:33.180
But one thing
00:19:34.000
that I find frustrating
00:19:35.800
is the South West,
00:19:38.000
actually,
00:19:38.800
going so heavily
00:19:39.960
for the Lib Dems.
00:19:40.760
Now,
00:19:40.980
I mean,
00:19:41.220
we were as Brexit-y
00:19:42.240
as anywhere.
00:19:43.320
We voted for Brexit
00:19:44.540
almost all
00:19:45.380
of the South West
00:19:46.060
of England,
00:19:46.500
almost all Wessex
00:19:47.460
wanted Brexit
00:19:48.580
and yet for some reason
00:19:49.620
we were controlled
00:19:50.980
by Remainers.
00:19:52.040
And I think
00:19:52.720
this is generally
00:19:53.400
because of a lack
00:19:54.740
of proper campaigning
00:19:56.300
on the subject.
00:19:57.460
Because, I mean,
00:19:58.160
obviously everyone
00:19:59.000
and their mother
00:19:59.660
knows that Brexit
00:20:00.620
just has not been
00:20:01.660
implemented.
00:20:02.400
Nothing has been done
00:20:03.140
because of a lack
00:20:04.480
of competitive attitude.
00:20:07.920
And this has been
00:20:08.400
the major problem.
00:20:09.220
For example,
00:20:09.640
in this country,
00:20:10.340
corporation tax
00:20:11.100
didn't go up
00:20:11.740
recently actually,
00:20:12.460
but it's at least
00:20:13.020
25%.
00:20:14.060
Whereas in Ireland,
00:20:15.680
another English-speaking
00:20:16.800
European country,
00:20:18.060
it's 12.5%.
00:20:19.320
So we are being
00:20:20.720
directly undercut
00:20:21.900
by half
00:20:22.700
and that's why
00:20:23.540
if you are
00:20:24.440
a social media user,
00:20:26.240
all the Silicon
00:20:27.000
Tech Valley giants
00:20:28.080
have their headquarters
00:20:28.940
there and not London
00:20:30.160
or somewhere in England
00:20:31.360
because they pay
00:20:32.500
half the tax.
00:20:33.240
And so whenever
00:20:33.760
anyone from Twitter
00:20:35.260
or YouTube
00:20:35.740
or wherever gets
00:20:36.580
any money off
00:20:37.240
Silicon Valley,
00:20:37.940
you'll notice that
00:20:38.720
it comes from
00:20:39.160
Google Ireland,
00:20:40.120
X Ireland,
00:20:41.320
Facebook Ireland.
00:20:42.360
And so this is
00:20:43.980
the entire,
00:20:45.060
this is,
00:20:45.780
I mean,
00:20:46.040
just one aspect
00:20:47.000
of our complete failure
00:20:48.340
to try and be competitive.
00:20:50.380
We're not looking
00:20:51.300
at the European continent
00:20:52.640
as something we have
00:20:53.360
to defeat,
00:20:54.020
which is very frustrating.
00:20:55.540
And I think that
00:20:56.540
this kind of messaging
00:20:57.540
might actually work
00:20:58.620
quite well with
00:20:59.680
voters in the Southwest
00:21:01.160
because the Southwest
00:21:01.940
is fairly opulent,
00:21:04.300
actually,
00:21:04.760
as England goes.
00:21:06.200
It's not the North.
00:21:07.500
It's not London,
00:21:08.280
but it's,
00:21:09.260
you know,
00:21:10.480
fairly well to do.
00:21:11.900
But we are patriotic people
00:21:13.460
and what we would like
00:21:14.480
to see is business
00:21:15.340
competition.
00:21:16.160
We would like to make
00:21:16.980
it easier to do that.
00:21:18.040
But you see,
00:21:18.500
Southwest England
00:21:19.380
mirrors Southwest London
00:21:21.040
because they are the
00:21:22.120
most homogenous parts
00:21:23.440
of the nation
00:21:24.020
along with Scotland.
00:21:25.600
And so therefore,
00:21:26.660
you know,
00:21:26.860
these areas are the most
00:21:28.020
pro-immigration
00:21:28.760
because they don't
00:21:29.520
experience it.
00:21:30.240
They're not at the
00:21:30.680
coalface
00:21:31.240
and the areas that are blue
00:21:32.960
are at the coalface.
00:21:35.260
And I think it's the failure
00:21:36.640
to actually understand
00:21:37.740
the full crisis
00:21:39.580
of immigration
00:21:40.280
that explains
00:21:41.060
why reform hasn't
00:21:42.340
taken quite the hold there,
00:21:43.760
along with the fact
00:21:44.420
that the Lib Dems
00:21:45.320
have the best ground network
00:21:47.280
of any political party.
00:21:48.620
So when it comes
00:21:49.040
to campaigning,
00:21:49.980
they're able to get
00:21:50.800
their vote out.
00:21:51.900
That's what reform
00:21:52.600
is doing right now.
00:21:53.460
They're actually copying
00:21:54.280
the Lib Dems,
00:21:54.980
trying to replicate
00:21:56.140
their groundwork.
00:21:57.240
So maybe over the next
00:21:58.660
two, three, four years,
00:21:59.740
you will see reform
00:22:00.520
making inroads there too.
00:22:01.980
But again,
00:22:02.400
I think immigration
00:22:03.140
will be the deciding factor.
00:22:04.820
That's why,
00:22:05.200
you know,
00:22:05.320
some people will say,
00:22:05.960
well, you know,
00:22:06.380
Angela Rayner's plan
00:22:07.240
to disperse asylum seekers
00:22:08.980
elsewhere might actually
00:22:10.340
change the voting system.
00:22:13.600
I'm not happy with
00:22:14.340
how little Nigel Farage
00:22:15.660
is winning in the Southwest,
00:22:16.940
says Angela Rayner.
00:22:17.680
I can change that.
00:22:19.120
But this is the point
00:22:20.520
I wanted to make, though,
00:22:21.280
is if you're a reform
00:22:22.940
party strategist
00:22:23.980
and you're wondering
00:22:24.920
why you're not getting
00:22:26.160
anywhere in the Southwest,
00:22:27.000
you're absolutely correct.
00:22:28.800
The problem isn't
00:22:29.980
immigration in the Southwest,
00:22:31.260
it's stagnation.
00:22:32.540
And if you were to do
00:22:34.560
essentially what Thatcher
00:22:35.320
did with Essex and say,
00:22:36.300
look, we're going to make
00:22:37.220
you very rich.
00:22:38.740
Your standard of living
00:22:39.700
is going down.
00:22:40.300
We're not happy with that.
00:22:40.980
We know you're hardworking.
00:22:41.820
We know you're patriotic.
00:22:43.080
Actually, we're going to
00:22:44.440
essentially conquer Europe
00:22:46.000
economically.
00:22:47.500
You could have a very
00:22:48.800
aggressive campaign
00:22:49.600
because, like I said,
00:22:50.660
we were pro-Brexit.
00:22:52.340
We are a Brexit area as well.
00:22:54.120
We are not natural
00:22:55.100
liberal Democrats.
00:22:56.160
The reason the Lib Dems
00:22:57.080
are getting anywhere
00:22:57.560
is because essentially
00:22:58.800
that it's a kind of
00:22:59.980
non-political statement
00:23:02.340
to vote for the
00:23:03.080
Liberal Democrats.
00:23:04.160
Say, I don't really
00:23:04.720
want to talk about politics.
00:23:05.640
I vote Lib Dems.
00:23:06.660
This is what Ed Davies'
00:23:07.840
campaign was entirely
00:23:08.500
based on.
00:23:09.140
Look at him at some
00:23:10.340
water world or whatever
00:23:11.240
it was, like an actual
00:23:12.280
clown.
00:23:13.240
He's not proposing
00:23:13.900
any policies.
00:23:14.480
He's not talking about
00:23:14.880
anything interesting.
00:23:16.080
So, anyway,
00:23:17.980
some good news.
00:23:21.640
Just saw this come
00:23:22.500
on my feed.
00:23:23.560
I was like, well,
00:23:24.020
okay, yes.
00:23:25.080
I would like Lisa Nandy
00:23:26.240
to lose her seat.
00:23:27.280
And as you said,
00:23:28.100
Farage is well aware
00:23:29.880
that if you vote Tory,
00:23:31.600
you're going to get Labour.
00:23:32.800
And this seems to be true.
00:23:36.020
Farage is actually the
00:23:37.080
most popular party leader
00:23:38.060
in the country as well
00:23:39.220
as having the most
00:23:40.780
popular party in the
00:23:41.940
country.
00:23:42.800
So, I take it you saw
00:23:43.800
the other day when he
00:23:44.560
was in Parliament and
00:23:45.220
they were jeering him
00:23:46.100
and telling him to
00:23:46.740
resign.
00:23:47.700
And Farage take it
00:23:49.060
personally, and I don't
00:23:49.860
know why.
00:23:50.620
If I were Farage, I'd
00:23:51.720
be looking at them with
00:23:52.420
contempt and say,
00:23:53.160
you're all sitting in
00:23:53.860
my seats.
00:23:54.900
You're on borrowed
00:23:55.820
time.
00:23:56.740
Look at the polls.
00:23:57.400
You know you're all
00:23:58.400
gone come the next
00:23:59.500
election.
00:24:00.320
So, enjoy the time
00:24:01.000
while you've got it
00:24:01.900
and you'll see me
00:24:03.200
soon.
00:24:04.000
But for some reason,
00:24:05.080
he's been taking it
00:24:05.640
personally.
00:24:05.960
He doesn't need to.
00:24:07.320
From all of the
00:24:08.360
indications so far,
00:24:09.280
he is on track to win
00:24:10.340
a massive majority
00:24:11.780
and absolutely destroy
00:24:13.240
the Uniparty.
00:24:14.460
And so, like you said
00:24:15.400
earlier, there are a lot
00:24:16.300
of people in our spaces
00:24:17.060
where it's like, well,
00:24:17.620
he's not really right
00:24:18.220
wing enough.
00:24:18.600
Yeah, okay, yeah,
00:24:19.140
yeah, fair enough.
00:24:20.420
But crushing the Uniparty
00:24:21.580
is going to be an
00:24:22.640
amazing service to the
00:24:24.440
right in this country.
00:24:25.320
And so, I'm more than
00:24:26.900
happy to support
00:24:27.500
Faraj for that reason.
00:24:29.200
Yeah, and you know,
00:24:30.380
the best we can hope,
00:24:31.240
I mean, look, let's face
00:24:32.500
facts, the Reform Party
00:24:33.500
is the only game in town.
00:24:35.240
If we're going to have,
00:24:36.360
you know, a reverse
00:24:37.140
long march with
00:24:37.880
institutions and do
00:24:38.840
everything else, you
00:24:39.740
know, have a MAGA
00:24:40.400
light, it's only going to
00:24:42.020
be with Reform.
00:24:42.880
That's realistic.
00:24:43.780
You know, UKIP, all
00:24:44.880
these other parties,
00:24:46.060
lovely, but no one even
00:24:47.160
has heard of them in the
00:24:48.220
broader population.
00:24:49.720
The best we can hope
00:24:50.440
for, or my hope is,
00:24:51.780
that what Reform is doing
00:24:52.980
is essentially trying to
00:24:54.300
copy what Tony Blair did
00:24:56.240
in 97 and what Starmer
00:24:57.880
did, essentially talk a
00:24:59.500
rather centrist approach,
00:25:01.720
but have a radical plan
00:25:02.960
and agenda.
00:25:03.880
That means being
00:25:04.660
deceitful, I suppose,
00:25:05.680
but that's my only hope
00:25:07.120
for how we can actually
00:25:07.900
get proper policies
00:25:09.100
installed.
00:25:09.620
If they're not going to
00:25:10.120
be announcing them now,
00:25:11.460
maybe that's their plan
00:25:12.480
to essentially bring them
00:25:13.580
in once they got into
00:25:14.560
power and have a much
00:25:15.320
more radical agenda
00:25:16.140
than perhaps they told
00:25:17.320
the public.
00:25:18.900
Please let it be true.
00:25:20.220
Please let it be true.
00:25:21.220
Again, that's the
00:25:22.380
optimistic side.
00:25:23.440
Yeah.
00:25:24.540
The pessimistic side
00:25:25.840
is that Nigel Farage
00:25:27.560
is actually kind of as
00:25:28.440
wet as he is appearing
00:25:29.400
in the campaign trail,
00:25:30.440
which isn't optimistic,
00:25:31.280
but I don't know.
00:25:32.600
I'm not sure that he is.
00:25:33.540
Who knows?
00:25:34.200
We'll find out.
00:25:35.600
Well, the other hope is,
00:25:36.420
of course, after two years
00:25:37.840
or three years of MAGA,
00:25:39.900
there will be a tsunami
00:25:40.720
coming over the Atlantic
00:25:41.900
that will crash on our
00:25:42.980
shores and move that
00:25:43.800
Overton window so we can
00:25:45.100
actually discuss, you know,
00:25:46.500
I would, you know,
00:25:46.960
Tony Blair's campaign
00:25:48.080
slogan was education,
00:25:49.380
education, education,
00:25:50.340
and hopefully by then
00:25:51.440
it'll be re-migration,
00:25:52.620
re-migration, re-migration.
00:25:54.880
Well, if Rupert Lowe
00:25:55.680
has anything to do with it,
00:25:56.900
it seems that we're
00:25:57.800
on that track.
00:25:59.360
And let's go to some
00:26:00.020
comments quickly.
00:26:00.900
Glee says,
00:26:01.700
what role could a
00:26:02.360
potentially resurgent UKIP
00:26:03.740
play under Nick Tenconi
00:26:05.060
in the 2029 election?
00:26:06.480
Honestly, I don't see it
00:26:08.280
happening.
00:26:08.860
It's not that I have
00:26:10.020
anything against Nick Tenconi
00:26:11.100
or UKIP or anything like
00:26:12.000
that.
00:26:12.520
I just think you're
00:26:13.240
exactly right.
00:26:14.040
Reform is the only game
00:26:15.480
in town.
00:26:15.860
They're the ones sucking
00:26:16.780
up the right-wing energy.
00:26:18.340
We just have to accept it
00:26:19.340
and make the best of it.
00:26:21.180
And Annexio says,
00:26:22.260
Labour are doing a great
00:26:23.040
job promoting reform.
00:26:24.180
Look at Peter Lamb,
00:26:25.220
who said pensioners
00:26:25.920
have a choice whether
00:26:26.840
to freeze or not.
00:26:27.780
Crawley turned on him
00:26:28.620
and now he's looking
00:26:29.220
to be a reform win.
00:26:31.440
Yeah, well, that's the
00:26:32.220
thing.
00:26:32.480
I mean, what Labour want
00:26:33.940
is fundamentally evil.
00:26:36.360
And it's actually quite
00:26:37.980
easy to do nothing
00:26:39.060
and find yourself
00:26:39.980
in the winning position.
00:26:41.000
Because, I mean,
00:26:41.300
really all Farage is
00:26:42.200
doing is letting his
00:26:43.220
opponents fall apart.
00:26:44.800
Which, again,
00:26:45.240
is a perfectly sound
00:26:45.920
strategy.
00:26:46.340
Why interrupt your
00:26:48.060
enemies when they're
00:26:48.540
making a mistake?
00:26:50.080
Of course, a lot of this
00:26:50.940
could change once people
00:26:51.980
see the policies.
00:26:53.140
Because, again,
00:26:53.760
a lot of this is just
00:26:54.760
people being disaffected
00:26:55.980
by the Tories and Labour.
00:26:58.200
If they see the policies,
00:26:59.600
maybe it'll turn off
00:27:00.460
a lot of people too.
00:27:01.960
That's something also
00:27:02.760
we need to factor
00:27:03.400
into all of this.
00:27:04.460
Yeah, it's a needle
00:27:06.180
that reform have to
00:27:07.340
think about threading.
00:27:08.340
Anyway, let's move on.
00:27:10.940
Right, so I think that
00:27:12.240
2025 is a very
00:27:13.940
seminal year.
00:27:14.780
Historians will remember
00:27:16.120
it as the year that
00:27:17.080
the tide has turned
00:27:18.200
or that the tide turned
00:27:20.120
because the conception
00:27:21.780
of what is politically
00:27:22.740
possible has radically
00:27:24.460
shifted.
00:27:25.840
It happened with
00:27:27.860
three people
00:27:28.640
and three is the
00:27:29.520
magical number
00:27:30.200
in persuasion
00:27:31.040
and in rhetoric.
00:27:32.560
First came Bukele,
00:27:33.600
then came Millet,
00:27:34.760
then came Trump.
00:27:36.280
So I think that
00:27:37.040
this trinity
00:27:38.620
has been completed
00:27:39.840
and it actually
00:27:41.980
pushes forward
00:27:43.940
for the complete
00:27:45.180
change in the
00:27:47.220
people's conception
00:27:48.140
of what is
00:27:48.800
politically possible
00:27:49.660
because before
00:27:50.400
that,
00:27:53.420
most people would
00:27:54.280
say that
00:27:54.940
politics is just
00:27:56.840
the micromanagement
00:27:58.280
of decline.
00:27:59.320
It's just downhill
00:28:00.420
from here.
00:28:01.360
There is zero
00:28:01.920
representation.
00:28:03.220
No one cares
00:28:03.780
actually to represent
00:28:04.880
their voting base.
00:28:06.860
No one cares
00:28:07.560
for the safety
00:28:08.480
of their people.
00:28:09.080
it's just going
00:28:10.080
downhill.
00:28:11.040
But I think that
00:28:11.800
we see now
00:28:13.240
a lot of leaders
00:28:14.820
who are doing
00:28:15.620
the exact opposite.
00:28:17.100
I think that this
00:28:17.740
is particularly good
00:28:18.660
and let me just
00:28:19.480
give you a very
00:28:20.560
brief,
00:28:21.360
very brief
00:28:22.920
introduction to this
00:28:23.840
and contrast it
00:28:24.720
with politics in Europe
00:28:25.820
because I think
00:28:27.000
that the
00:28:27.680
distinction
00:28:29.900
between how
00:28:30.740
politics right now
00:28:32.020
is exercised
00:28:32.760
in the Americas
00:28:33.780
and how it is
00:28:34.560
exercised in Europe
00:28:36.060
is becoming
00:28:36.740
much more visible
00:28:37.820
and the more
00:28:38.500
people are
00:28:39.100
viewing this
00:28:40.260
the more likely
00:28:41.120
they are to
00:28:41.840
want this
00:28:43.080
and to demand
00:28:43.980
the self-evident
00:28:47.160
because to actually
00:28:48.920
represent your people
00:28:50.020
in a democracy
00:28:51.020
is what
00:28:51.760
a democracy
00:28:52.960
is supposed to be about.
00:28:54.140
Sounds like
00:28:54.480
dangerous populism to me.
00:28:56.040
I think we need
00:28:56.860
a bureaucracy
00:28:57.300
to manage the
00:28:58.380
decline and
00:28:59.580
reallocation of resources
00:29:01.500
to make sure
00:29:02.000
everyone gets
00:29:02.580
to share.
00:29:03.800
So what I wanted
00:29:04.900
to say is that
00:29:05.600
for instance
00:29:06.020
El Salvador
00:29:06.700
Bukela was in
00:29:07.940
El Salvador
00:29:08.500
El Salvador
00:29:09.800
was at once
00:29:11.220
the murder
00:29:11.960
capital of the world
00:29:13.020
he came in
00:29:14.200
he put some
00:29:15.200
bad people
00:29:15.680
in prison
00:29:16.160
now El Salvador
00:29:17.840
is one of the
00:29:19.940
safest countries
00:29:20.600
Not rocket science
00:29:21.500
is it?
00:29:21.880
It's not rocket science
00:29:22.860
and actually
00:29:23.720
one of the
00:29:24.600
good things
00:29:25.560
about it
00:29:25.980
is that
00:29:26.360
we don't need
00:29:28.400
a revolution
00:29:29.120
in philosophy
00:29:30.080
or something
00:29:30.680
we don't need
00:29:31.260
something radical
00:29:31.980
we actually need
00:29:33.160
people to enforce
00:29:34.120
laws
00:29:34.560
that have been
00:29:35.880
adopted
00:29:36.460
and embraced
00:29:37.380
for decades
00:29:38.420
but in the last
00:29:39.360
decades
00:29:39.920
we have
00:29:40.920
radical
00:29:41.740
since the
00:29:42.240
start of time
00:29:43.080
the very concept
00:29:43.760
of law
00:29:44.200
punish the wrongdoer
00:29:45.800
literally the essence
00:29:47.440
of law
00:29:48.060
the very first
00:29:49.140
laws that were
00:29:49.780
ever written
00:29:50.480
are the same
00:29:51.500
as the ones
00:29:52.040
we've got now
00:29:52.760
exactly
00:29:54.020
but if you see
00:29:55.080
you see here
00:29:58.840
maybe this is
00:30:00.660
the wrong document
00:30:01.300
but I'll just
00:30:02.200
tell you the data
00:30:03.080
we have 88%
00:30:04.320
of Salvadorians
00:30:05.940
who feel
00:30:06.460
really well
00:30:07.420
walking
00:30:07.780
and safe
00:30:08.500
walking out
00:30:09.040
at night
00:30:09.420
people in Ecuador
00:30:10.500
don't
00:30:11.680
and this is
00:30:12.840
they feel
00:30:13.800
27% safe
00:30:15.160
and this is
00:30:15.840
a huge difference
00:30:17.060
very similar people
00:30:18.160
very similar culture
00:30:18.980
very similar climate
00:30:19.940
very similar environment
00:30:20.860
what's the difference
00:30:22.160
well
00:30:22.560
the leader
00:30:23.100
not only the leader
00:30:24.820
it's the
00:30:25.560
it's the
00:30:26.760
enforcement
00:30:27.820
of the law
00:30:28.500
not a secret
00:30:29.460
or something
00:30:29.860
here the suicide
00:30:30.700
the murder rates
00:30:32.200
the homicide rates
00:30:33.380
in El Salvador
00:30:34.080
in the last decade
00:30:35.560
we had 108
00:30:37.360
at some point
00:30:38.740
103
00:30:39.540
per 100,000 people
00:30:41.660
now
00:30:42.460
after Bukele
00:30:43.480
in
00:30:43.980
came
00:30:45.120
in 2019
00:30:46.100
it has dropped
00:30:47.080
down to 2.4
00:30:48.140
he literally
00:30:50.420
transformed
00:30:51.040
and
00:30:51.360
he literally
00:30:52.260
transformed
00:30:52.940
El Salvador
00:30:53.740
to one of the
00:30:54.580
safest places
00:30:55.260
and it's not
00:30:57.640
rocket science
00:30:58.300
how he did it
00:30:59.540
now
00:31:00.080
Millet is the
00:31:01.420
second person
00:31:02.120
Argentina
00:31:02.980
has suffered
00:31:03.880
from decades
00:31:04.680
of Peronism
00:31:05.500
decades
00:31:06.300
of inflation
00:31:07.100
decades
00:31:08.260
of high poverty
00:31:09.480
rate
00:31:09.800
he came in
00:31:10.720
he did actually
00:31:11.500
what is supposed
00:31:12.260
to work
00:31:12.700
just for anyone
00:31:13.440
who doesn't know
00:31:13.880
what Peronism is
00:31:14.760
communism
00:31:15.200
it's just
00:31:15.800
communists
00:31:16.500
it's just
00:31:16.960
statism
00:31:18.360
status policies
00:31:19.780
what happens
00:31:20.380
when a communist
00:31:20.860
takes over your country
00:31:21.660
is they use
00:31:22.100
the government
00:31:22.460
to immiserate
00:31:23.120
the entire population
00:31:24.040
exactly
00:31:24.620
and that's happened
00:31:25.520
across South America
00:31:26.280
for decades
00:31:26.900
it's happening here
00:31:27.640
now
00:31:27.960
it's happened
00:31:28.340
across Europe
00:31:28.840
it's just communism
00:31:30.140
and this
00:31:30.960
this is not rocket science
00:31:32.400
he tamed inflation
00:31:33.540
not rocket science
00:31:34.960
stop spending money
00:31:36.060
stop allowing the government
00:31:37.080
spend all your money
00:31:37.840
exactly
00:31:38.660
so
00:31:39.260
and his popularity
00:31:40.700
is actually a really good thing
00:31:42.500
now because
00:31:43.120
the policies
00:31:44.420
that he advocates
00:31:45.600
are policies
00:31:46.500
that frequently
00:31:47.160
in the short term
00:31:48.280
don't yield results
00:31:49.680
but actually
00:31:50.760
in this case
00:31:51.360
I think a lot
00:31:52.080
I hear a lot
00:31:52.860
of Argentinians
00:31:53.600
who are happy
00:31:54.060
I have a friend
00:31:55.420
who is Argentinian
00:31:56.420
he's told me
00:31:57.140
that he's ecstatic
00:31:57.960
because he finally
00:31:59.040
found a job
00:31:59.700
and he also
00:32:00.220
has someone
00:32:01.080
who feels
00:32:02.160
he is representing him
00:32:03.380
and what is most important
00:32:04.520
he says that there is
00:32:05.320
a cultural aspect
00:32:06.180
to it
00:32:06.600
there is what is called
00:32:08.040
in Argentina
00:32:08.820
the viveza creola mentality
00:32:10.360
which is basically
00:32:11.440
the mentality
00:32:11.980
that corruption
00:32:12.600
is all there is
00:32:13.460
and that there can be
00:32:14.840
nothing else
00:32:15.320
and he says
00:32:16.140
that Millet
00:32:16.540
is actually
00:32:17.040
leading the fight
00:32:17.940
against this
00:32:18.580
I love Millet's
00:32:19.740
kind of intense look
00:32:20.700
sorry can we go back
00:32:21.400
to it a sec
00:32:21.800
yes
00:32:22.180
he's got this
00:32:23.180
remarkable
00:32:23.940
intenseness
00:32:24.740
about him
00:32:25.400
I find very engaging
00:32:27.220
I love watching
00:32:28.280
I can never understand
00:32:29.080
what he's saying
00:32:29.460
obviously he's saying
00:32:30.000
in Spanish
00:32:30.440
but I just like
00:32:31.600
seeing the sort of
00:32:32.440
like
00:32:32.680
yeah yeah
00:32:33.880
but he's like a maniac
00:32:35.180
against state spending
00:32:37.800
and as someone
00:32:38.820
who's just recently
00:32:39.520
had to pay his taxes
00:32:40.420
my god
00:32:40.980
I feel that energy
00:32:42.220
he can actually
00:32:43.480
exercise elementary
00:32:44.720
reasoning skills
00:32:45.980
he says we have a goal
00:32:47.340
he's an economist
00:32:47.720
these are the
00:32:48.380
well there have been
00:32:49.820
other economists
00:32:50.600
I know
00:32:51.240
so these are
00:32:54.180
this is the goal
00:32:55.140
these are the means
00:32:56.140
we take the means
00:32:56.940
to the goal
00:32:57.460
and we're
00:32:59.380
on our way
00:33:00.500
to achieving the goal
00:33:01.380
now comes Trump
00:33:02.560
and I wouldn't
00:33:04.120
ever expect
00:33:05.140
that this was
00:33:05.900
going to be
00:33:06.360
something people
00:33:06.980
would cheer on
00:33:07.860
or something
00:33:08.400
that this
00:33:09.540
would be heard
00:33:10.620
that he just
00:33:11.580
signs an executive
00:33:12.480
to ban men
00:33:13.180
from competing
00:33:13.800
in women's sports
00:33:14.720
the whole signing
00:33:17.380
of this
00:33:17.740
was so wholesome
00:33:18.480
though
00:33:18.780
it was just
00:33:19.820
you know
00:33:20.140
Trump with all
00:33:20.760
these kids
00:33:21.260
all these young
00:33:21.760
girls
00:33:22.000
and he just
00:33:22.860
completely normally
00:33:23.600
he's like
00:33:24.220
grandfather Trump
00:33:25.260
handing out
00:33:26.040
the pens afterwards
00:33:26.820
you know
00:33:27.120
haven't you had
00:33:27.460
a good time
00:33:28.040
you know
00:33:28.300
look at that
00:33:29.020
in the best
00:33:29.580
signature
00:33:29.960
and it's just
00:33:30.660
like
00:33:30.840
there's something
00:33:31.720
very homely
00:33:32.560
and appealing
00:33:33.020
about it
00:33:33.420
it's like
00:33:33.800
when he was
00:33:34.080
at the McDonald's
00:33:34.780
and he's waving
00:33:35.220
out of their thing
00:33:35.900
it was just like
00:33:36.560
it's the grandpa
00:33:37.680
Trump
00:33:38.080
yeah grandpa
00:33:38.840
Trump
00:33:39.120
he's truly
00:33:39.760
moving to the
00:33:40.460
sort of patriarch
00:33:41.180
you know
00:33:42.120
caring patriarch
00:33:43.520
mold
00:33:43.980
and I really
00:33:44.680
approve of it
00:33:45.460
so now that we
00:33:46.580
have the trinity
00:33:47.320
it's developing
00:33:48.700
a kind of synergy
00:33:49.760
to an unprecedented
00:33:51.380
level
00:33:52.020
Millet now
00:33:53.140
is banning
00:33:54.720
sex change
00:33:56.420
surgeries
00:33:57.120
on mariners
00:33:58.640
in Argentina
00:33:59.360
you see the
00:34:00.180
virtues change
00:34:01.240
so
00:34:01.460
not very controversial
00:34:02.560
really
00:34:03.300
it's not
00:34:03.760
but that's the issue
00:34:04.680
with how
00:34:05.320
the left
00:34:06.260
has acted
00:34:08.440
in the last decades
00:34:09.420
because
00:34:09.700
if you're just
00:34:10.980
a raving lunatic
00:34:12.380
then whoever's
00:34:14.200
the other person
00:34:14.800
you're basically
00:34:15.400
handing them
00:34:16.000
easy wins
00:34:16.660
yeah
00:34:17.420
but also
00:34:18.200
the thing
00:34:19.700
with the left
00:34:20.120
it's the control
00:34:20.860
of discourse
00:34:21.580
and stigma
00:34:22.380
that has been
00:34:23.640
what has allowed
00:34:24.480
them to get
00:34:25.220
anywhere
00:34:25.640
in anything
00:34:26.400
the pure
00:34:27.340
negative
00:34:28.420
characterisation
00:34:29.200
of anyone
00:34:29.760
who might have
00:34:30.500
a differing opinion
00:34:31.140
has been a
00:34:31.700
really powerful
00:34:32.400
tool that we've
00:34:32.940
allowed them
00:34:33.400
to have
00:34:33.700
far too long
00:34:34.720
exactly
00:34:35.120
and I mean
00:34:36.020
Trump right now
00:34:36.940
has signed
00:34:37.220
several executive
00:34:38.520
orders that seem
00:34:39.440
to me to be
00:34:39.900
very commonsensical
00:34:40.960
for instance
00:34:41.620
the deportations
00:34:42.580
issue
00:34:42.960
there was no
00:34:44.500
issue
00:34:44.860
there was no
00:34:46.220
problem
00:34:46.660
nothing stopped
00:34:47.560
stopped him
00:34:48.500
he said okay
00:34:49.100
they're getting
00:34:49.620
deported
00:34:50.100
the president of
00:34:51.160
Colombia said
00:34:51.780
at some point
00:34:52.280
no
00:34:52.640
he tried
00:34:53.840
to put up
00:34:54.460
a fight
00:34:54.880
but at the
00:34:55.580
end
00:34:55.760
he accepted
00:34:56.980
there are
00:34:57.740
many of them
00:34:58.600
we've discussed
00:34:59.300
them
00:34:59.620
that's why
00:35:00.640
I'm putting
00:35:01.200
another one
00:35:01.720
that
00:35:01.840
it's like
00:35:02.300
it's ruinous
00:35:02.940
to send
00:35:03.260
these people
00:35:03.620
back to my
00:35:04.060
country
00:35:04.300
so we've
00:35:08.240
talked about
00:35:08.680
them a lot
00:35:09.180
on our
00:35:10.220
segments
00:35:10.600
that's why
00:35:11.040
I'm talking
00:35:11.640
about this
00:35:12.560
executive order
00:35:13.520
now
00:35:13.840
he signs
00:35:14.520
an executive
00:35:15.060
order to
00:35:15.680
resume the
00:35:16.200
process of
00:35:16.780
creating a
00:35:17.680
new national
00:35:18.320
park full of
00:35:19.060
statues of
00:35:20.000
the greatest
00:35:20.420
Americans who
00:35:21.120
ever lived
00:35:21.560
I think
00:35:22.320
that this
00:35:22.640
is again
00:35:23.340
a paradigm
00:35:23.920
shift
00:35:24.400
because it
00:35:25.620
might sound
00:35:26.320
weird to
00:35:26.860
people who
00:35:27.240
don't follow
00:35:27.720
politics
00:35:28.260
because they
00:35:29.300
may think
00:35:30.320
that yeah
00:35:30.800
obviously
00:35:31.280
politicians are
00:35:32.880
happy and
00:35:34.000
they support
00:35:35.200
great Americans
00:35:35.920
but no this
00:35:36.760
is a paradigm
00:35:37.460
shift because
00:35:38.520
it's a blow
00:35:40.020
to the narrative
00:35:40.780
of shaming
00:35:41.560
and this is
00:35:43.100
something that we
00:35:44.420
desperately need
00:35:45.440
here in Europe
00:35:46.120
because for
00:35:47.460
some reason
00:35:48.060
the Europeans
00:35:48.980
are just
00:35:49.860
having a
00:35:51.060
masochistic
00:35:51.900
fetish with
00:35:52.640
shaming and
00:35:53.820
historical shame
00:35:54.680
the West has
00:35:55.280
always dominated
00:35:56.340
when it has
00:35:56.920
been self
00:35:57.460
confident and
00:35:58.460
assertive and
00:35:59.680
it's known
00:36:00.420
what or who
00:36:01.600
it is and
00:36:02.580
it's when we've
00:36:03.160
been navel
00:36:03.640
gazing and
00:36:04.260
nihilistic and
00:36:05.060
wearing a
00:36:05.460
horsehair shirt
00:36:06.240
and self
00:36:06.960
flagellating that
00:36:08.140
we see the West
00:36:08.800
at its weakest
00:36:09.400
and being taken
00:36:11.160
for a ride by
00:36:12.800
Russia, China
00:36:14.240
who display all
00:36:15.640
those qualities
00:36:16.240
that we once did
00:36:17.080
about self
00:36:17.600
confidence and
00:36:18.700
assertiveness and
00:36:19.480
that's why he
00:36:20.320
announced this when
00:36:20.900
he was last
00:36:21.420
president and I
00:36:22.580
was so happy
00:36:23.120
about it because
00:36:23.520
it's a complete
00:36:24.080
slap in the face
00:36:24.980
to BLM all
00:36:26.340
those people
00:36:27.240
who are those
00:36:27.780
iconoclasts who
00:36:28.620
are tearing down
00:36:29.200
great heroes I
00:36:30.460
wish we had
00:36:30.900
something like that
00:36:31.540
here my only
00:36:32.400
slight because you
00:36:32.920
know Americans
00:36:34.080
hate monarchy but
00:36:35.320
the power of a
00:36:36.740
president with
00:36:37.160
executive orders is
00:36:38.480
greater than any
00:36:39.160
monarch of in
00:36:40.140
European you
00:36:41.060
history for the
00:36:41.540
last 200 years
00:36:42.580
my only thing is
00:36:44.000
executive orders are
00:36:44.780
so easy to repeal
00:36:45.700
by the next
00:36:46.220
incumbent and it's
00:36:48.120
fine to do it in
00:36:48.760
the short term I
00:36:49.900
just hope now that
00:36:50.680
Congress is
00:36:51.200
Republican there'll
00:36:52.280
be legislation to
00:36:53.180
actually ensure that
00:36:54.060
this stuff lasts more
00:36:54.980
than just four years
00:36:55.740
I absolutely agree
00:36:56.920
with you and I
00:36:57.660
think that this is
00:36:58.260
important especially
00:36:59.160
for the MAGA
00:37:00.000
triumphalists who
00:37:01.620
literally view Trump
00:37:03.620
right now as some
00:37:04.920
communists viewed
00:37:05.560
Castro because Castro
00:37:06.880
gave those speeches
00:37:07.680
he signed some
00:37:08.380
executives and they
00:37:09.540
thought okay he said
00:37:10.700
he's gonna bring
00:37:11.280
growth so growth
00:37:12.040
came no it hasn't
00:37:13.280
happened yet that's
00:37:13.960
why a lot of it's
00:37:15.700
it's beginning now
00:37:16.820
the changes need to be
00:37:18.500
cemented in legislation
00:37:19.640
exactly but it's a
00:37:21.260
good way to start the
00:37:22.320
fire to the fireplace you
00:37:23.940
need some kindling and
00:37:25.060
you need to it's only
00:37:26.220
been two weeks or
00:37:26.980
something exactly so
00:37:27.940
it's a strong start and
00:37:28.940
I think that it is a
00:37:30.040
good message that I'm
00:37:31.860
here to do business and
00:37:33.600
I'm here to form an
00:37:36.120
alliance with people who
00:37:37.360
mean business rather
00:37:38.820
than just want to
00:37:40.780
partake in lose-lose
00:37:42.600
situations as Musk said
00:37:44.200
he said we have one
00:37:45.040
chance to have this
00:37:45.960
revolution and it's now
00:37:47.260
if we don't do it now
00:37:48.280
it'll never happen and
00:37:49.340
so you do need to be an
00:37:50.400
immediate disruptor it is
00:37:51.800
shock and awe
00:37:52.480
I mean any any year of
00:37:55.560
leftist subversion is a
00:37:56.820
year too many and that's
00:37:59.140
good so I want to say
00:38:00.300
that here in Europe
00:38:01.940
I'm absolutely I find
00:38:04.620
European leadership
00:38:05.760
abominable we're not in
00:38:07.140
Europe you're not in
00:38:09.820
continental Europe yeah
00:38:11.760
or or not so is this a
00:38:13.840
lot mine now England is
00:38:15.400
something apart okay I've
00:38:17.560
long maintained England
00:38:18.880
and Europe cut off
00:38:20.100
okay that's precisely the
00:38:22.060
attitude I have okay I'm
00:38:23.640
gonna be diplomatic here is
00:38:26.040
England and the loss of
00:38:27.640
the world are you happy
00:38:28.480
with that formulation that's
00:38:30.040
fine right so I think in
00:38:31.460
England and and in
00:38:33.020
continental Europe people
00:38:34.660
view politics as
00:38:36.040
essentially the
00:38:36.660
micromanagement of
00:38:37.540
decline and they have
00:38:38.640
the exact opposite
00:38:39.720
approach to politics
00:38:41.480
than Trump Millet and
00:38:43.000
Bukele have there is
00:38:44.620
always an obstacle as if
00:38:47.760
actually being good for
00:38:49.640
your country and your
00:38:50.340
people violates the human
00:38:51.660
right of migrating to a
00:38:53.760
country and destroying it
00:38:54.800
or wanting it to be
00:38:55.980
destroyed that's so it's
00:38:58.980
it's not just cultural it's
00:39:00.620
also economical the EU is
00:39:03.660
just causing its own
00:39:05.640
brain drain by this is a
00:39:08.980
true turn of phrase to
00:39:10.280
the US innovates China
00:39:11.620
replicates and the EU
00:39:12.480
regulates yeah it reminds
00:39:14.080
me you know when in 1940
00:39:16.080
at the height of the war
00:39:17.140
when Britain was standing
00:39:18.260
alone and it looked like
00:39:19.500
all of Europe would fall
00:39:20.440
Churchill said one of his
00:39:21.500
speeches he looked forward
00:39:23.420
to the time when the new
00:39:24.540
world with all its power and
00:39:26.040
might steps forward to the
00:39:27.620
rescue and liberation of
00:39:28.660
the old and you've got
00:39:29.960
that triumvirate right in
00:39:31.220
Ecuador and El Salvador
00:39:33.160
Argentina and America who
00:39:35.160
could actually provide the
00:39:36.740
means of liberation
00:39:37.760
exactly so I'm tired of
00:39:39.860
socialism I'm whether it's
00:39:41.640
fast or slow I just don't
00:39:43.100
want it and I think that
00:39:44.520
Europe the message the
00:39:45.660
timescale wasn't the issue
00:39:46.820
yeah yeah no but the point
00:39:49.300
is that the message Europe
00:39:50.660
is sending to people is I
00:39:53.040
don't respect ambitious
00:39:54.220
people I don't respect the
00:39:55.900
profit motive so you're
00:39:57.620
going to have to be here
00:39:58.900
and just abide by my
00:40:00.940
regulations well notice
00:40:02.380
that the entire aspect of
00:40:04.340
the European Union is about
00:40:05.680
predictability and
00:40:07.100
certainty and the problem
00:40:08.540
that they have with what
00:40:10.580
you're suggesting is you are
00:40:12.800
literally offering them
00:40:14.120
unpredictability and
00:40:15.200
uncertainty things may
00:40:16.800
happen in the future that
00:40:17.680
you're not in control of so
00:40:18.920
of course they're intrinsically
00:40:20.920
against it exactly the
00:40:22.420
entire managerial frame is
00:40:23.600
designed to know precisely
00:40:25.840
what tomorrow is going to be
00:40:27.180
like and if you can not
00:40:29.380
guarantee that tomorrow will
00:40:30.420
be exactly like today they're
00:40:31.420
going to reject it out of
00:40:32.120
hand exactly and when you
00:40:34.120
have a leadership that says I
00:40:36.440
don't respect ambitious
00:40:37.660
people I don't respect people
00:40:39.460
who want to innovate and I
00:40:40.700
don't want to respect the
00:40:41.740
profit motive you have someone
00:40:43.160
across the pond like Trump
00:40:44.340
who's again signing an
00:40:46.000
executive order to profit from
00:40:48.260
their brain drain and he says
00:40:49.680
he's establishing an AI
00:40:51.440
innovation refugee status for
00:40:53.580
tech entrepreneurs and AI
00:40:55.120
researchers fleeing EU's
00:40:56.980
restrictive A laws we should
00:40:59.140
have been doing this this is
00:41:00.340
what we should have been doing
00:41:01.240
with Brexit exactly right so
00:41:03.660
what do we have here in
00:41:04.960
England we have a government
00:41:06.700
that is talking about non-crime
00:41:09.960
hate incidents I mean that's
00:41:13.420
not that's not the way to go
00:41:14.700
forward you would think no it's
00:41:18.880
not it's just not I it's
00:41:20.520
subjectively absolutely and yet
00:41:22.840
here we are with our non-crime
00:41:24.700
hate incidents as all the
00:41:26.060
brains go to the United States
00:41:27.940
we have also voices that say
00:41:30.200
well for pedophiles can't be
00:41:32.700
deported because it violates the
00:41:35.560
human rights of their family to
00:41:37.420
have them close to them or it
00:41:39.700
violates the the well-being of
00:41:42.380
them to have a close family life
00:41:44.380
so we have several the pedophile
00:41:47.120
needs unlimited access to
00:41:48.720
children is what they're saying
00:41:50.400
well they're saying that if the
00:41:52.000
pedophile gets deported the
00:41:53.580
family of the pedophile is going
00:41:55.160
to have a negative well-being
00:41:56.340
it's going to impact their
00:41:58.500
well-being I'm sure it'd be
00:41:59.400
perfectly fine to keep the
00:42:00.300
pedophile in the house with his
00:42:01.400
own children that didn't stomp
00:42:03.000
that this kind of rationale
00:42:04.480
didn't enter Trump's mind when he
00:42:06.440
was negotiating with Colombia and
00:42:08.600
with Haiti but for some reason
00:42:10.560
people here in Europe and the
00:42:14.340
England think we don't even
00:42:16.620
need to you know it's not even
00:42:17.460
about the ECHR you know we've had
00:42:19.020
14 years where we could have got
00:42:20.480
rid of the Human Rights Act and
00:42:22.080
the Equalities Act it was the
00:42:23.140
Human Rights Act of our of
00:42:24.540
Gordon Brown Tony Blair that tied
00:42:26.560
us into that exactly we have here
00:42:28.680
headlines like this migrant
00:42:30.320
shambles as unnamed judge let's
00:42:32.340
pedophile we cannot name to protect
00:42:34.620
his privacy stay in UK because
00:42:36.220
because panic Pakistan his family
00:42:38.760
might disapprove of him lasting
00:42:41.300
after barely pubescent girls so
00:42:43.040
there we have we have we have
00:42:46.560
political judges man we've got such
00:42:49.560
a problem with our judges the
00:42:50.900
problem is that they're allowed to
00:42:54.120
take risks with the safety of
00:42:56.560
European people yeah of the native
00:42:58.480
population of European countries
00:43:01.160
that they're not prepared to take
00:43:02.940
with convicted criminals because
00:43:05.980
this it's it's not an argument you
00:43:08.880
can't make that argument it's not a
00:43:10.480
sound argument thrash him then deport
00:43:12.800
him I mean it's really not very
00:43:14.280
complicated the other thing now we
00:43:15.400
see is people saying that they're
00:43:16.460
bisexual and rapists and others so
00:43:18.520
that can't be deported because I'm
00:43:19.880
bisexual exactly and all this is
00:43:21.880
contributing to actually the decline
00:43:24.460
of Europe so it's not a surprise if you
00:43:26.840
see politics as the micromanaging of
00:43:29.900
decline yeah you're gonna face decline
00:43:32.000
here we have the list of bombings in
00:43:35.040
Sweden it resembles a band's tour
00:43:38.580
schedule three literally one day yeah
00:43:41.840
different city it's 33 in in January I
00:43:46.360
don't know I thought that Sweden was
00:43:48.480
supposed to be the gem of Scandinavia
00:43:51.180
according to social Democrats who were
00:43:53.680
saying look at how these the all these
00:43:56.060
policies come into fruition rape and bomb
00:43:58.880
capital of the world by 2050 approximately
00:44:02.040
30 percent of the nation will be Muslim
00:44:03.800
according to the latest stats but don't
00:44:05.360
worry because diversity is our greatest
00:44:07.280
strength progress right progress you don't
00:44:09.840
understand here for some reason we have
00:44:13.840
Germany shooting the its own feet ah yes
00:44:17.620
economically speaking and energy speaking
00:44:20.560
look at the nuclear energy production of
00:44:24.340
its own it literally turned its back on its
00:44:26.860
nuclear program I know it's so but we're
00:44:29.280
getting into this in the next segment
00:44:30.460
actually it's just so ridiculous crime in
00:44:32.440
Germany in every kind of violent crime
00:44:35.380
is rising by at least 10 percent per year
00:44:37.840
we have the same pattern that follows
00:44:40.740
politicians that constantly make virtue
00:44:42.780
signaling remarks but actually end up
00:44:45.440
doing nothing and we have the green saying
00:44:47.320
well maybe we should ban knives maybe we
00:44:49.920
should ban we should ban men in women in
00:44:53.740
and carriage train carriages macro
00:44:56.620
management of decline we have men in
00:44:58.900
balaclavas in Belgium coming in and just
00:45:02.380
firing Kalashnikov AK-47s pardon me why why do
00:45:08.440
we have to live like this are these people
00:45:10.180
here and just Millet gives us the answer if
00:45:13.360
anyone is talking about this in Europe they
00:45:16.700
are immediately being branded as 20th century
00:45:20.520
mid mid 20th century Germans by their own
00:45:24.340
establishment so we have an establishment
00:45:26.680
that in the name of protecting our democracy
00:45:29.480
is actually promoting incredibly unpopular
00:45:32.160
agendas it's turning the back on its people
00:45:35.500
on the native population it's mostly composed of
00:45:39.180
unelected bureaucrats who are essentially saying
00:45:41.920
if you want common sense you're far right
00:45:44.900
I'm going to destroy you that's no way to go
00:45:48.080
forward I've just come to accept that I may
00:45:50.380
actually be far right by their standards
00:45:52.200
oh really I would never have thought that
00:45:55.040
yeah I know I just accept yeah so I actually
00:45:57.320
don't want rampaging foreign we've got we've
00:45:59.760
got at the new culture forum we've got
00:46:01.260
coming out on Sunday uh what our new
00:46:04.120
documentary heresies and I think it's the
00:46:05.740
most powerful thing we've ever done and it's
00:46:07.280
called Britain's silent rape explosion and
00:46:10.500
it actually goes into to why we've seen this
00:46:13.380
great cover-up of the ethnic identity of the
00:46:15.560
perpetrators of rape not just in Britain but
00:46:17.560
in Germany in Sweden and elsewhere and of course
00:46:20.780
it's being covered up because the the our elites
00:46:23.540
can't accept don't want us to find out that
00:46:25.900
they're the ones who've actually caused the
00:46:28.060
identity and because yeah and because the
00:46:30.320
commonsensical belief that the role of the
00:46:32.260
police is to actually protect the liberties of
00:46:34.860
the people is was rejected by someone who said
00:46:38.500
well I want DI I want I want several ethnic
00:46:42.680
positions disseminated across some population
00:46:45.880
some positions and the job of the police
00:46:48.520
suddenly didn't become to ensure you're not
00:46:51.800
considering the abilities of the criminal yeah
00:46:53.920
it's DI DI is not about doing the job is about
00:46:56.400
getting the job correct or as musk said DI is
00:47:00.520
DI exactly yeah so the the more we see people
00:47:04.100
like Trump Millet and Bukele the better I hope
00:47:07.160
they change the paradigm in over of this side
00:47:10.220
of the Atlantic as well well what's interesting
00:47:12.320
though is that we've seen a great wave to the
00:47:16.040
swerve to the right across the west so you've
00:47:18.540
seen the most conservative government in New
00:47:20.540
Zealand now elected you've seen Geert Wilders
00:47:23.160
get going into power of course we have we have
00:47:25.340
Maloney as well who was invited to the
00:47:27.020
inauguration obviously Orban is there the rise
00:47:30.380
of the AFD and Le Pen and so forth and if you
00:47:32.760
look at last year analysis was done and the
00:47:35.780
gap between the right-wing share of the vote
00:47:38.520
and the left-wing share of the vote is at its
00:47:40.100
wide distance 1990 the left haven't been this
00:47:43.360
unpopular since the Cold War it's 46% of the
00:47:46.460
west voted for the right versus 40 versus 30
00:47:50.440
something for the for the for the left yet
00:47:52.580
despite that all of the levers of power all of
00:47:55.880
the media all of the institutions are still
00:47:58.500
perpetuating this left-wing global perspective
00:48:01.320
although that that may change since Donald
00:48:03.900
Trump and Elon Musk have torn out the
00:48:06.200
financial nervous system of their entire
00:48:08.120
network it turns out the left-wing media was
00:48:10.960
astroturfed by the US government if you can
00:48:13.480
believe it yeah weirdly not popular and but
00:48:17.460
it is remarkable though that there's still
00:48:19.240
you know a third of the country will still
00:48:21.160
vote for a policy which is essentially I would
00:48:23.240
like to destroy the country is it like because
00:48:25.840
they're not even shy about saying these things
00:48:28.180
anymore right these are the people with whom
00:48:30.580
their sympathies lie every criminal every
00:48:33.280
foreigner every bureaucrat everyone who
00:48:36.260
wants to make you poor and less safe lies in
00:48:39.440
the scope and the compass of left-wing activism
00:48:41.740
so if I mean who are these people voting for
00:48:46.280
Labour I can only assume that very old people
00:48:49.560
who haven't got the memo yet or something like
00:48:51.220
that anyway Bald Eagle says if Malay rescued
00:48:54.660
reduced inflation by that much by cutting
00:48:57.600
government waste I'm excited to see how fast
00:48:59.220
US inflation drops when Musk and Doge are done
00:49:02.220
cutting our government well I mean everyone
00:49:04.180
is to be honest I mean honestly who isn't
00:49:06.840
enjoying watching it right who isn't having a
00:49:09.360
great time every morning I wake up on my phone
00:49:11.860
is my American friends going nuts they've done
00:49:14.400
this is what is it now you know it's actually
00:49:16.720
nice to get daily news is good we have to live
00:49:20.520
vicariously through the new world in the old
00:49:22.580
world you have to understand and question for
00:49:25.640
royal expert Rafe are there any remaining
00:49:27.940
provisions in our laws that would allow a
00:49:29.660
hypothetical future monarch on our side to
00:49:31.980
step in and stop the destruction of the UK
00:49:33.380
well as quick as I understand it I mean
00:49:36.060
technically he could right yeah there's
00:49:38.480
nothing stopping his majesty from essentially
00:49:40.580
dissolving parliament and removing the prime
00:49:43.020
minister but of course it would create a huge
00:49:44.900
constitutional crisis and would probably lead
00:49:47.420
to the end of the monarchy itself because
00:49:49.840
unfortunately the great mass of the population
00:49:51.560
don't see the great fundamental crisis that
00:49:54.960
this nation is in you know I'd be willing to
00:49:57.300
flip the coin on that I think that a patriotic
00:50:00.060
king would be able to bring people against
00:50:02.240
parliament at this point well yeah I would love
00:50:05.880
to think that I'm not quite certain I agree
00:50:07.840
with you I don't I don't think it's Charles but
00:50:11.540
is there a saying we'll cross the bridge when we get
00:50:14.380
there yes just okay we're saying we could get to
00:50:18.960
the bridge anyway let's let's move on because
00:50:21.840
Britain is finally getting some nuclear energy
00:50:24.800
finally I mean this in the face of the
00:50:30.100
ideological net zero climate nonsense as you
00:50:33.040
can see here from only a couple of days ago from
00:50:35.580
the right honourable Ed Miliband and his
00:50:37.380
department for energy security the government
00:50:40.400
has launched an expanded net zero council and
00:50:43.520
it's just pure fanaticism from Miliband I mean
00:50:46.220
look at the graphics right they tell you
00:50:47.840
everything you need to know we're gonna have
00:50:49.280
wind turbines and we're gonna have solar energy
00:50:51.420
it's like oh are we oh well it's re-industrializing
00:50:55.000
Britain what wind turbines solar panels that's
00:50:59.040
not that's not gonna work is it idiot uh and
00:51:01.740
it's just like his entire twitter feed is just
00:51:03.900
this kind of woke net zero nonsense right and
00:51:05.900
so it's like right I'm glad this guy's in
00:51:07.660
charge of our energy uh needs in the future here's
00:51:10.740
their path their plan green pills oh my god he's
00:51:14.860
I just so quick aside right green energy when
00:51:20.720
they say green energy and they say oh we need uh
00:51:23.780
wind turbines we need uh solar panels what
00:51:26.320
they're saying is we want communism right that's
00:51:28.100
what they're asking for is what they're saying is
00:51:29.960
anything that would be productive and actually
00:51:32.080
help our society grow and flourish we are going
00:51:34.700
to marginalize and put in the that's evil camp and
00:51:38.300
we're going to take everything that is actually
00:51:39.700
fundamentally quite unproductive and try and
00:51:41.900
force it on you and try and get you to accept a
00:51:44.480
lower standard of living and so I mean they
00:51:47.320
she's saying this uh we are accepting the
00:51:49.880
government's central role in steering the creation
00:51:51.380
of this new energy system setting expectations for
00:51:53.780
the 2030 capacities of key technologies at national
00:51:56.060
and regional level we have high ambition that
00:51:58.300
means 43 to 50 gigawatts of offshore wind
00:52:01.900
why 27 to 29 gigawatts of onshore wind oh brilliant
00:52:07.080
that's going to look amazing thank you so much
00:52:09.060
and 45 to 47 gigawatts of solar power
00:52:13.120
we're in england what are you thinking
00:52:17.400
you are I'm going to go through this exactly the
00:52:20.940
numbers as well because this is crazy right
00:52:22.640
and so they're doing this to significantly reduce our fossil
00:52:25.480
fuel dependency because Ed Miliband is going to save
00:52:28.680
the world from total destruction in a cataclysmic
00:52:32.040
firestorm of global warming it's Ed Miliband he's going
00:52:35.240
to be the guy so you're not the guy Ed you're a moron
00:52:38.460
right and so they're going to spend 40 billion on
00:52:41.500
average per year between 2025 and 2030 because we're
00:52:45.460
just so flush for cash at the moment you see money
00:52:48.400
falling out of our pockets and so why not just say oh
00:52:51.840
there's a 20 billion black hole yes and that's why
00:52:53.660
we're going to spend 40 billion on this alone a year
00:52:56.260
for the next five years and so I mean why would we even glance
00:53:00.340
at solar power why would we this is the number of annual
00:53:03.340
sunshine hours a year obviously annual because this is
00:53:07.460
that Britain gets I can't open notes that Russia gets more
00:53:11.760
sunshine hours than we do right it is sunnier in Russia than
00:53:16.260
it is in England why would you ever mention solar power in
00:53:20.660
this country and the answer is of course because you're
00:53:22.600
ideologically captured right because someone in California
00:53:25.140
as you can see lots of sunshine hours in California
00:53:28.240
someone in California was like hey it's going to be a very
00:53:30.840
progressive thing to have solar power and that will be very good
00:53:33.460
for the environment and it will be progressive and friendly and
00:53:36.440
and blah blah blah blah and so Ed Miliband who's obviously been
00:53:40.040
programmed by Twitter has gone yeah good point we'll do the
00:53:43.280
same not thinking about how ideologies are any relevant in the time and
00:53:46.940
places where they emerge because they are actually concretely attached to
00:53:50.680
the circumstances the physical circumstances of the people who come
00:53:53.300
up with them and so if you're in Britain and someone says solar panel
00:53:57.320
power you know you are speaking to a retard to someone who has no brains
00:54:01.880
and doesn't know what they're talking about because I mean it's not it's
00:54:05.360
not even close it's just not even close this is from the American
00:54:08.620
energy departments uh thing and they've uh they've just got a nice
00:54:13.420
little graph here so what's the most productive form of energy oh it turns
00:54:17.880
out that it's nuclear by a mile it's five four times more productive than
00:54:22.940
solar it's three times more productive than wind because believe it or not at
00:54:26.400
some points the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow but at all
00:54:30.760
times the nuclear turbine is constantly producing energy and producing
00:54:35.440
steam to run a turbine it's all heated water okay everything all energy
00:54:38.800
production is just heated water um but the the point being it's just not
00:54:43.120
there's no discussion to be had it's completely unscientific to say
00:54:47.000
oh we need solar and wind no you're an ideologue you are someone who has been
00:54:51.460
programmed via twitter with a californian ideology that is
00:54:55.880
fundamentally anti-human because the real reason they don't go for nuclear and
00:54:59.340
this has been a long contention i've had
00:55:00.760
is that nuclear power would mean that the concerns about radical restructuring of
00:55:06.160
our society will go away there's no revolution in nuclear power how can they
00:55:10.580
tear down capitalism with nuclear power nuclear power is going to keep
00:55:13.840
capitalism going until the sun burns out i think that's really their problem any
00:55:19.440
thoughts at this junction before i continue ranting and raving i think
00:55:22.580
nuclear power is the way that's no no contest and the the only danger is that
00:55:31.080
someone will get uh be a di higher inside it that's the only issue i have with
00:55:36.540
nuclear power and that's entirely our own fault if that happens yeah it's not
00:55:41.320
exactly that it hasn't happened widely i mean your point about capitalism
00:55:46.500
interesting because of course france is arguably more left-wing than we are
00:55:50.340
though and they've managed to actually ensure that they that they are the most
00:55:54.220
independent energy independent nation in in europe and you know i think there are
00:55:58.840
56 nuclear reactors in france there are only nine in great britain and we are and
00:56:05.020
just as we invented the railways we are home to the world's first nuclear uh power
00:56:10.840
station or cardwell hall was it or whatever it was called and it just shows you how
00:56:14.920
we've lost that ambition we've lost all of that i often used to say you know when
00:56:18.680
did the greek stop being greek and now we can say when did the british stop being
00:56:22.040
british that great industrious nation and you just have to look at the short termism here
00:56:26.340
also because it was what it was over a decade ago that nick clegg famously said
00:56:30.340
we're not going to build any nuclear power plants it'll take 10 years take 10 years well that would
00:56:35.260
have avoided the entire energy spike that we've seen and that just goes to show you the thinking
00:56:40.220
that actually is in the minds of our leaders the irony the again i intended to be here 10 years
00:56:47.480
later i was here 10 years later nick you know and you know what and even if it wasn't for me even
00:56:51.760
if i somehow died i'd like my children and future generations to have it too like again it it's it's
00:56:57.400
not even a conversation that needs to be had the fact that we have ever entertained the solar and
00:57:03.180
wind lobbies is just preposterous and so the the only thing they have to fall back on is well it
00:57:08.960
sounds scary well the craziest one of all was angela merkel you'll remember in 2016 after the
00:57:14.640
fukushima tsunami she said well because of the tsunami we're going to close on everything that
00:57:19.540
remains in germany which is well known for its plague of tsunamis that descend on it every summer
00:57:25.940
constant constant problem but then they had to go back to coal power plants which would become
00:57:32.900
dependent on russia which both worked out just perfectly both from an environmental perspective
00:57:37.100
if you're really concerned about the global warming of the earth well you've gone back to your coal power
00:57:42.540
plants and you've made yourself dependent on russia who now you you allowed to essentially cripple you
00:57:48.120
when they invaded ukraine so brilliant and do you remember uh trump getting laughed at as well
00:57:52.540
they they laughed in his face when he said why are you making yourselves energy dependent on russia
00:57:57.640
stupid trump yeah who gets the last laugh anyway so let's talk about safety then because the last
00:58:03.280
and most honestly the weakest argument that they come to is well it's it's not safe it's not safe
00:58:08.980
no actually it is it is the the nearly the most safe so every uh every death from accidents and
00:58:17.480
pollution that have come from say coal is 24 deaths per 100 150 000 people with nuclear energy it's 0.03
00:58:25.200
deaths and with solar it's 0.02 deaths so not exactly dangerous and as you can see nuclear energy
00:58:33.020
produces less greenhouse gas emissions so look there's just no argument anyone who mentions solar
00:58:39.160
or wind just wrong on everything they've got no argument and they're trying to fear monger you
00:58:45.000
and there's just no reason not to do it how does one die from solar power is that one of the panels
00:58:50.180
hits you on the head manufacturing i assume or something like that yeah um but again it's it's one of
00:58:56.680
those persistent things that essentially nuclear power deniers have been saying and so the the question is
00:59:02.600
well do we have a good example of a country that actually decided to take up the nuclear baton
00:59:05.860
as rafe has already foreshadowed yes it's france france is doing amazingly with nuclear power and
00:59:11.680
it's genuinely and i'm kind of annoyed they're mogging us on this right they get to lord it over
00:59:18.660
us and say no you stupid anglos are doing the stupid german thing and we the the the brilliant and
00:59:26.200
incredibly lazy french get to indulge our laziness because of our cheap energy generation no i'm pro
00:59:32.160
nuclear for xenophobic reasons okay we need to get one over the french like france gets 70 percent of
00:59:40.120
its energy from nuclear energy right because they've had this long-standing thing and in 2014 when the
00:59:45.580
sort of uh green wave was coming france got it too and they planned to reduce it to only 50 percent
00:59:51.260
and that got scrapped because everyone's okay that's obviously stupid why are we doing that
00:59:54.820
and that worked out really really well for them and so they are a net exporter of electricity at this
01:00:00.500
point and that they export their energy they make three billion euros a year exporting their energy
01:00:06.740
because their energy costs are so abundant and their energy is so their energy costs so low that
01:00:10.940
they can sell it to the germans who are so stupid and block-headed about this subject they have
01:00:16.780
arrived at the point where they're now dependent on the french rather than the russians like what are
01:00:20.960
you doing what are you doing no one needs to be energy dependent on anyone actually at this point
01:00:25.320
and whilst france was building some of its new uh power stations remember gordon brown was
01:00:29.700
closing down our gas storage facilities as well making our energy security even worse
01:00:34.980
it's pure left-wing ideology that is against nuclear power right from a from a normal person's
01:00:40.680
perspective from a scientific perspective it is only nuclear that is the only game in town right
01:00:45.340
and if you think where are we going to get the uranium australia actually australia has
01:00:49.720
i think some of the second or third largest reserves of uranium so and canada does as well
01:00:54.480
there's massive reserves so we don't need to rely on russia for this we're completely dependent on
01:00:59.140
other anglosphere countries nations we can be guaranteed that are going to have a safe and
01:01:03.180
prosperous and welcoming relationship with us we will enrich them they will enrich us we all prosper
01:01:08.140
foreign powers who hate us fail and everyone wins like literally everyone wins there's no argument
01:01:15.500
against this i'm sick of hearing and so as you said britain only has nine nuclear power stations
01:01:20.600
france has yeah 56 and they're building a bunch more or they were building six more just because why
01:01:26.420
not if they're making you money why not you know again like it's actually a growth industry for the
01:01:30.680
french and they've got the most advanced technology these are that and what this does is produce only
01:01:36.000
15 of our nuclear of our energy production which is 6.5 gigawatts so for some reason we're going to
01:01:43.280
spend 40 billion a year producing ineffective inefficient like unreliable solar and wind or
01:01:52.100
we could spend only and in fact spoiler alert to build new power plants would cost between two and
01:01:58.780
three billion so we could literally build 20 new nuclear power plants a year the money they're going
01:02:04.220
to spend it's important to note that the new the new small nuclear reactors are much less expensive
01:02:09.980
much larger indeed uh so they're much easier to create and build yep the the um excuse me the
01:02:16.900
rolls-royce modular nuclear reactors again innovation taking place in britain for some reason this wasn't
01:02:23.380
all over the news and the governments weren't all banging the drum on this uh yeah each one costs
01:02:28.080
between two to three billion to make i'm going to spend 40 billion a year on it anyway why not spend
01:02:32.800
40 billion a year on this the only uh objection i have is the shape of the building that they're
01:02:38.140
proposing uh gothic please let's have it in gothic style um but yeah this is a completely feasible
01:02:45.560
thing to do there's absolutely no reason to do it uh not to do it and finally absolutely finally
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keir starmer has been forced essentially to come out and go yeah look things in britain are so bad
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even the labor government are like yeah we're gonna we're gonna start building some nuclear
01:03:02.000
nuclear energy uh we hate to do it because that means that the revolution isn't coming
01:03:06.480
obviously keir starmer lifelong leftist doesn't want this to happen but he has to make it happen
01:03:12.360
one thing that i find quite interesting as well this this became a bit mimetic so i don't know
01:03:17.000
whether you can see here these two cans represent all of the waste that all of the nuclear reactors
01:03:22.700
in britain have ever produced so not much really that's amazing and a lot of people like most of
01:03:29.880
the waste standing either side of the can yes as opposed to those two uh and a lot of people like
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hmm do i drink the forbidden can um probably not it will literally rot your jaw off um but yeah so
01:03:43.640
anyway uh yeah oddly tempted to know what it tastes like can't can't be good can't be good but so
01:03:50.400
anyway yeah so as we found out recently uh keir starmer has actually finally capitulated on this
01:03:56.060
he's like yeah okay we'll we'll build nuclear if people have to live in britain then we will do it
01:04:02.500
um basically they're going to remove regulations and any uh objections that people have legally
01:04:09.740
and again it's more reason to loathe the tories because they were in power for 14 years they had
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you know tories are notoriously nimbyist always thinking about it we can't have any power stations here or
01:04:19.880
there we've got the world's most expensive electricity or europe's expensive electricity
01:04:24.220
clear plan here we're giving 18 billion to the chagos islands how many of these smrs could we build
01:04:29.640
without you know uh well literally nine of them we actually have the numbers we could and i forgot to
01:04:35.920
bring up for this but um in in 2022 i think it was the tories commissioned a study to find out well
01:04:42.020
how many would we have to build and it turns out we would have to build six full-size nuclear reactors
01:04:46.700
to power every home in the country right and that would cost about 45 billion something like that
01:04:52.520
is that okay but that that would be worth it like if they were like okay no we're going to build just
01:04:56.540
you know one in each region of the country then essentially i mean you could literally you could
01:05:02.120
have you could run over labor saying look these are going to be government owned so they'll be
01:05:05.760
taxpayer funded and that means you'll never pay an energy bill again in your life right imagine the
01:05:11.200
god that would be incredible could have done it they could have done anything and it's left to
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essentially being forced into this position because of how bad things are getting in this
01:05:19.600
country to say okay yeah look we're gonna have to go nuclear because loony bloody ed's plan on solar
01:05:25.600
and wind that's not going to last so we're gonna have to do something else otherwise we're all going
01:05:29.820
to go hungry and cold um so yeah basically finally finally some positive news in britain right
01:05:36.380
actually we might not be impoverished just paying for the heating bill during the winter
01:05:41.460
my god how long does it take to build one of these uh not that long either actually um i don't think i
01:05:47.200
have it to hand um but not that long so it could be within a couple of years and we actually see
01:05:54.060
dividends being paid on this um who knows god only knows let's please look because these aren't going
01:06:00.040
to be the full-size ones that the conservatives when they were like oh it'll take 10 years
01:06:02.800
yeah the rolls royce's modular nuclear ones are basically i think i can't remember off the top of my head
01:06:07.940
but it's not 10 years so it could be within a few years we actually get some bonuses and benefits and
01:06:13.000
something good happens in britain for once even under a labor government
01:06:17.800
matt says uh gen 4 nuclear plants can run on nuclear waste of old plants and take half-life from
01:06:23.800
centuries to decades yeah one one thing i didn't point out is that um nearly a fifth of france's
01:06:28.380
nuclear energy is from recycled nuclear waste actually so and that's a process that's getting better and
01:06:34.600
better and better as the iterations of the technology continue so again it's just there's no
01:06:39.320
downside to this uh weirdly they're not going to be run by soviet bureaucrats probably um sigil stone
01:06:47.940
says uh it's been openly admitted multiple times by the left themselves they hate nuclear because it
01:06:51.820
will provide cheap clean energy and won't bring about the global communist revolution yeah that's
01:06:55.720
exactly what it is um do we have video comments today
01:07:00.280
right okay uh charles says oh good rafe he's a jolly fellow and a bmx champ not many people know
01:07:07.600
that you're a bmx champ are you apparently so what is that oh uh the bmx is uh bikes and
01:07:15.500
you know the dirt bikes my last time on a bicycle was when i was 16 years old so perhaps not
01:07:20.440
uh charles i don't appreciate that fake news thank you very much about our guest
01:07:25.280
uh nick taylor says reform looked like containment also unfortunately yes well this is unfortunately one
01:07:34.620
of the downsides to reform is that it is entirely possible uh what people call containment which
01:07:40.700
is essentially uh keeping the blairite project on its rails what do you think about that well
01:07:48.480
maybe yeah better than the tories and labor though isn't it uh henry says uh the vote uh labor vote
01:07:56.600
was a vote of apathy uh the right wing disappeared or flipped reform and the centrist tory wets like
01:08:01.080
roy stewart started to tilt lib dem well no we don't know they didn't vote green uh lib have you seen
01:08:06.980
rory stewart making a public prat of himself recently recently every single time he tweets yeah yeah
01:08:12.460
getting demolished by jd vance and then giving a 110 iq response to this
01:08:18.080
i don't know why anyone listens to the guys and it's not just calling you know kamala harris the
01:08:22.720
winner you remember during when he was running to become prime minister he was very confident he was
01:08:26.680
very confident she was going to win but it's not just that when he was running to become prime
01:08:30.320
minister he's he said famously the eu will never reopen the withdrawal agreement three weeks later the
01:08:36.380
eu opened the withdrawal agreement for boris you know has he ever made a prediction that did come
01:08:40.920
true he's going to be like the uh the guy who predicts the stock markets that now people just run
01:08:45.640
an anti-him tracker uh the anti-kramer tracker or something you know it just goes to show you what
01:08:51.040
an euteronian education can do for self-confidence you know yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it certainly
01:08:56.180
it certainly does do that george says the government is the most powerful institution in most countries
01:09:01.260
they can do whatever they want because they have a monopoly of violence what governments are lacking is
01:09:05.240
will and care for the citizens uh yes but on the plus side the power of selection is still in our
01:09:12.380
hands so we don't have to choose labor or the conservatives we could i mean like you can say
01:09:17.640
a lot of things about nigel farage but one thing that i think is to his credit is that he obviously
01:09:21.360
doesn't hate britain right he's obviously not a hater of britain obviously likes the mythology of
01:09:26.480
britain and loves the country so as wet as he might end up being he's at least not hostile
01:09:32.840
which is a step up but you say we have the right of selection but the fact is you know only 20 percent
01:09:39.620
of the nation actually has for example a twitter account an x account and most of those don't
01:09:44.220
actually look at politics most people still consume the legacy media and until we smash that
01:09:49.320
people actually will continue to believe that he's far right and that there are no underlying causes
01:09:54.900
behind the rise of reform immigration or whatever it is we need to sort of break through that if we're
01:09:59.000
going to have any hope of really having a power to select the next government that is true that is
01:10:03.700
true so basically make sure that all of your friends and family use alternative media send them this
01:10:07.340
podcast uh peter says uh it's more likely that germany keir starmer will attempt to simply ban the
01:10:14.020
reform party now they're not they're not going to do that um the the precedent would be too outrageous
01:10:20.400
nigel farage is too much of a mainstream figure everyone knows who he is uh and i mean banning like
01:10:26.140
even quite radical parties is a bit contentious i don't really like the idea of the current ruling party
01:10:31.480
being able to tell me that that party's out of bounds even if that party is a nutty party i've never
01:10:37.020
vote for uh i don't i don't like the option not impossible to see some reform mps getting
01:10:42.380
non-crime hate incidents though i imagine a lot of pressure being put on them by on the police by
01:10:47.820
the labor government if they're getting worried you know yeah i don't doubt the rupert lowe's got a
01:10:52.100
list of non-crime hate incidents on his record um but that's why he's my favorite reform mp uh russian
01:10:58.420
says uh fantastic first segment i'll do my best to uh up the network of reform folks i'm friends with
01:11:03.660
so it reaches the right people well thank you very much uh henry says uh for me the tory party
01:11:07.880
has a very upper middle class attitude to issues whereas reform strikes me as more every man lower
01:11:13.000
to working middle class version of the world i wonder if that's why the southwest hasn't gone for
01:11:17.280
reform because it's seen as grubby somehow tories don't live in rough communities full of knife
01:11:21.640
crime nor do they get letters from the children's schools saying don't travel alone everything like
01:11:25.960
that is an abstract issue to the tory mp whereas it's daily life for a reform voter yeah there's
01:11:30.400
definitely um i don't want to say stigma because it's not quite the right um well that there's an
01:11:38.760
idea that the the platforms that appeal to reform voters are low status issues and there's a huge
01:11:46.240
amount of snobbery there uh but of course the reality is actually if you look at the reform leader i mean
01:11:51.440
it's an accurate view to make about the reform voters maybe but if you look at the reform leadership
01:11:57.060
they all look like old tories right and they're all they're all millionaire businessmen you know
01:12:01.940
alan bastard's from the new statesman if you remember that old comedy with rick mail uh and i think
01:12:06.560
actually that's part of a problem actually for a lot of people can't relate to the leadership of
01:12:10.420
their own party um even ben habib who was much more in tune with the voters he understood their cause
01:12:15.720
also another pride public school educated millionaire but the this this is the um the interesting thing
01:12:22.100
about the the southwestern the lib dems in the southwest because the southwest isn't anti-capitalist
01:12:27.400
as it were you know i can understand why in the north you would have this kind of sneaking suspicion
01:12:32.680
about the southern capitalist and understandably so but in the southwest we're not like that um and
01:12:38.560
in fact i think that that could be leveraged if it can be done in a genteel enough way um we are
01:12:44.800
quite snobby unfortunately and sensitive um very disappointing frankly uh i'm not going to read
01:12:52.800
out that name but uh it's entirely possible that labor the lib dems the greens and the smp form a
01:12:57.160
coalition together they're already very ideologically close the threat of a reform government could be
01:13:01.360
enough to get them together well i mean that is a potential danger on the horizon but i actually
01:13:07.540
think the zia yusuf is right i think they're going to form a majority i think they could get 350 400
01:13:12.260
seats it's really not beyond the realms possibility and they're they again we're only six months into
01:13:18.480
the labor government i mean imagine when two years in of kia starmer screwing the country relentlessly
01:13:24.020
every goddamn day and then coming out every time there's a terror attack essentially saying shut up
01:13:28.700
far right like sorry kia we all hate you already um good to see rafe back in swindon was nice to see
01:13:36.100
you at the united kingdom rally in the sweltering heat last year cheers for walking the crowd after it was a
01:13:41.000
pleasure it was great i didn't realize you were there yes no no i was that that was the day that
01:13:45.580
tommy robinson played his videos of the crowd you were on stage that day but i walked around i thought
01:13:51.020
it was important you know to engage with people there well one thing that uh david starkey made
01:13:55.780
a great observation about it was like um when when it's mostly men it's the football lads out doing
01:14:02.140
something trivial it's not very important but when their wives come out with them then you can tell
01:14:06.840
there's a real issue brewing and that was one of the things that really struck me is
01:14:11.320
the crowd was about half women it was very very gender balanced and so it was like okay
01:14:17.100
i think starkey's dictum there is correct there's a real problem that these people are responding to
01:14:21.880
which is why i take part in them you know i i agree it is a real problem everything's a real problem
01:14:27.000
um hector says love having rafe on the show his levity and wit is always welcome
01:14:31.560
thank you uh fuzzy toaster says the political class is unfit for purpose they need to learn to code
01:14:37.180
warlord wu tutai says rafe's point about japan unfortunately they have recently caved on
01:14:41.500
immigration and started to allow it it's only a matter of time until the first truck of peace
01:14:45.600
now i often hear this and also people in poland tell me well we're also going the same way
01:14:49.860
i mean this is all about scale yes they do have more immigration but we're talking about a very
01:14:54.800
different uh factor compared to what we've experienced in the west i mean as i said to you for example just
01:14:59.440
looking at the polish thing by 2050 20 percent of this country will be muslim 30 percent of sweden
01:15:04.880
in poland's will be 0.2 percent well the the the concern though is that the foot's in the door now
01:15:11.820
right and so a left-wing politician will say look we already do this i'm just going to double it and
01:15:16.500
double it japan is so homogenous they've got such a strong sense of their own culture and identity and
01:15:20.880
as i say once ai and robotics the main thing in japan as in here is who's going to look after our
01:15:26.060
elderly health care social care increasingly now that can be done by robots and automation
01:15:31.060
and with ai so i think that the uh you know it's a 20 30 year project to change a nation demographically
01:15:37.620
by that point i think the solutions will be there i do hope so but again like everything you're saying
01:15:42.720
could have been said about britain 50 years ago yeah but japan has a very different notion of self
01:15:47.740
and it is it is based it's it's a it's a racial concept of the nation well fingers crossed that
01:15:53.880
they they don't go down the road that we've gone down uh kevin says kemi is the tory's version of
01:15:58.920
kamala if they seriously wanted to win they'd choose someone who'd ruffle the feathers amongst the old
01:16:02.840
tory sweats uh to be honest with you i thought they should have gone for gemrick um obviously uh but
01:16:08.300
mostly gemrick the thing is though gemrick isn't charismatic and one one one thing that um
01:16:17.060
you realize after covering politics for long enough it's really just about likability
01:16:21.800
kemi is not likable if she was a very charming person who people just liked being around it
01:16:28.020
wouldn't matter that she was african that wouldn't matter at all and i suppose you could say that
01:16:32.060
actually maybe it's better to have kemi there because it just shortens the period of pain before
01:16:35.940
we only have one right-wing party yes if gemrick was there maybe we've probably prolonged for a
01:16:39.960
decade or so this might hasten the tory's death yeah no absolutely i mean gemrick went quite far
01:16:45.840
out of bounds in some ways as well saying we need to talk about english identity and things like that
01:16:49.980
i mean these are genuine things that need to be spoken about absolutely i think it's a yeah i mean
01:16:53.820
it's a pity he didn't say it years ago but i'm always inclined to believe people can have
01:16:57.820
damascene conversion some people think it's an act but i think it's genuine on his part
01:17:01.340
yeah i agree i think it was genuine as well um but i totally agree with you uh i'd rather he lost
01:17:07.600
and the tories just die off uh jimbo says the bbc are currently running a puff piece about how scared
01:17:13.120
sweden swedish immigrants are in light of that horrific shooting ah yes the real victims of
01:17:18.240
immigrant violence maybe they should stop shooting each other then the immigrants yes uh next time
01:17:22.980
there's an islamic atrocity i'm sure they'll be platforming the natives expressing concern about
01:17:26.320
muslims decimating europe uh well they could have done that for years now couldn't they
01:17:30.340
lord nerevar says i work in a libtardy environment and even my colleagues admit that trump is seriously
01:17:36.600
impressive in the way he conducts his government they hate his guts but they know what he is yeah
01:17:41.840
just as with thatcher you know admire her without loving her yeah you have to respect this
01:17:47.940
yeah and uh this was the main otherwise yeah you're just a tiktok activist yeah but this this is the
01:17:54.580
main concern that people had during his first tenure we didn't do anything okay well he's doing
01:17:58.260
it all now so uh kevin says uh how to improve the british police all dei hires hand in their hats
01:18:04.540
and batons and clear off you kevin you're showing your age there you think they've got hats and
01:18:09.760
batons they don't have high vis vests my friend uh no degree required to join the police and gain
01:18:15.940
promotion only male officers over six foot female officers over five for eight allowed such a wet um
01:18:22.180
all officers must pass the rigs at rigorous physical and medical examination application
01:18:26.220
and annually thereafter offer service in the police as an option for ex-military personnel
01:18:30.040
as a form of reserve service i mean that would definitely go a long way to to improving the
01:18:34.000
situation yeah but there should no women in uh frontline roles there should no women patrolling
01:18:38.520
the streets also no no one that looks like me should be patrolling the streets either you know do
01:18:43.260
admin roles report when someone's child has died or whatever but too many scenes of people
01:18:48.000
trying to apprehend a criminal who just laughs at them and runs off you know bring back the
01:18:52.660
constabulary uh omar says i absolutely do not trust faraj while he remains net zero level
01:18:58.620
soft on soft soft on immigration but the real politique of the situation is that you can say
01:19:03.560
nothing four years and coast to victory in a uni party fatigue alone being funded by zia yusuf
01:19:08.120
doesn't bode well for our chances you'll disenfranchise let alone oust foreign voting blocs
01:19:12.980
um yeah like i don't think reform represent uh the sort of um radical change that people are
01:19:20.120
looking for on the right but i do think there's better than nothing so better than having another
01:19:26.700
four or five years of labor and tories right so and who knows you know maybe trump will put a bit
01:19:32.060
pressure on him and say look just get on with it you know sort things out get on with it yeah
01:19:38.160
exactly um apparently yeah yeah yeah yeah again like i can't believe how kia starmer is constantly
01:19:46.780
dropping the ball like trump came out and said yeah i'm going to tariff you up i'm not going to
01:19:49.800
tariff britain though i like britain what are you doing kia get on the blur be like donald can i take
01:19:55.000
you up for a mcdonald's you know and he'll he'll go for it like chum again i kiss time it looks like a
01:20:01.200
shark doesn't he he's got the dead eyes of shark like he's got no emotive nature to him he's got
01:20:08.300
no personality it's hard to know what his wife loves about him right like normally you can identify
01:20:13.940
why a woman would be into a guy like that but you're like he's like a robot um anyway michael
01:20:19.500
says i spent 30 years working with emergency management around nuclear power plants uh the
01:20:23.560
output on these small uh footprint plants is just astronomical literally two gigawatts of
01:20:29.060
electricity from one reactor now we're discussing micro reactors small modular reactors that could
01:20:33.520
literally power entire towns off one reactor creating home grids in small town cities yeah
01:20:37.780
that's uh something i didn't get into is that the um the the modular reactors are something like 500
01:20:42.260
gigawatts of energy which is enough i mean literally it's one large town would just get one
01:20:47.200
plant and then you've got a network of plants that are kind of independent from one another so if
01:20:53.020
one goes out well then it's only one town that loses energy and you just replace it quickly
01:20:57.240
uh it's again what you would do if you wanted the country to succeed but of course the green
01:21:01.780
lobby hates us they want us to die so that's why they're against it uh jimbo says nothing has
01:21:07.640
hurt the perception of nuclear power more than the simpsons um yes and no i feel the simpsons
01:21:13.860
kind of domesticated the idea of nuclear power plants i think it's the three-eyed fish he's talking about
01:21:18.580
yeah so yeah yes and no but um yeah the the again this is uh it's a long-running bugbear of mine that
01:21:28.640
we even have this conversation about power generation the answer's been solved uh baron
01:21:32.680
from warhawk says i heard something similar from leftists on my college campus they were saying
01:21:36.520
mining on the moon and mars is immoral because it would just destroy the environment and ruin
01:21:41.180
these places natural beauty the natural beauty of mars i mean it is beautiful but there's enough space
01:21:50.860
you know i i i think this is overhyped i think mars is ugly it's it's just a desert a waste i disagree
01:21:58.240
yeah i know yeah there's there's nothing there there's no it's just rock and dust go to the grand canyon
01:22:04.900
if you want yeah uh henry says energies is one of the area energy is one of the areas of science i
01:22:12.220
find most infuriating it has been polluted by the political concept of the science as if it is some
01:22:18.220
fixed eternal outcome that can never be questioned never be reinterpreted and never invalidated someone
01:22:23.400
decided that the green solutions were best but metrics like cost per kilowatt hour the initial carbon
01:22:28.760
overhead of manufacturing and maintaining the infrastructure or how things are decommissioned at
01:22:32.700
the end of their life plus for things like vehicles battery tech is unfit for use in a lot of sectors
01:22:36.480
you can't replace 747 with an electric plane or way too much for example solar panels take up a lot of
01:22:41.420
space and use rare materials that are required to pay a tithe to china and basically end up in a landfill
01:22:46.000
when we're done with them onshore wind turbines kill a lot of wildlife for the yeah have you seen those
01:22:50.580
like birds with their wings chopped off and it's it's like oh this was an eagle i hate it it just really
01:22:58.800
annoys me but yeah and again the fact that a lot of these are just non-recyclable as well so they go
01:23:03.520
in landfills so this whole thing was again in in 50 years time we're going to look back on this and
01:23:08.940
think what are we doing why are we doing any of this um nuclear tidal and a lot of other technologies
01:23:15.300
like synthetic fuels have a lot of legs but for political reasons they're dismissed entirely entirely
01:23:21.180
political annoys me um alpha the beta says if climate change was an imminent political threat
01:23:26.520
we would commit to a crash program of carbon nuclear and carbon neutral nuclear power and figure
01:23:32.320
out the problem of nuclear waste later well there isn't really a problem because it's such a small
01:23:36.800
amount that like we've got uninhabited scottish islands we'd be able to fill up for like a million
01:23:41.860
years if we wanted to in these containers so it's not a problem i mean they can't use the the this as an
01:23:49.460
excuse for not doing anything yeah that's the world is constantly ending yeah constantly just yeah
01:23:56.300
i mean that's entirely the problem but uh but anyway we'll leave the whining about nuclear power
01:24:00.860
there i i'm it's again it's a personal bugbear of mine i just it makes me seethe that i have to pay
01:24:06.740
the electric bill every week every month um but right right so rafe um what is it you're doing at
01:24:12.140
the moment and where can people can people find more from you um well you can watch me every saturday
01:24:16.760
morning on the new culture forum youtube channel uh otherwise i have my own youtube channel where all my
01:24:21.960
other media appearances are posted and of course on x which i still call twitter at raf hm so what
01:24:29.560
what is it that you're um focusing on most at the moment intellectually uh well i'm uh in the process
01:24:35.220
of writing a book which should be the first of a series of books on uh essentially uh giving the
01:24:41.220
correcting the myths on history so uh my first one is essentially 10 myths about churchill which i know
01:24:47.740
a lot of your viewers and some of your team perhaps will disagree with me on you know but
01:24:51.480
correcting a lot of the prevailing myths uh on the left and right on on that uh and then doing my
01:24:58.100
usual stuff that i'm doing on immigration and islam and everything else so can you give me one of the
01:25:02.640
most prominent myths is i've i'm very tired of the discourse surrounding churchill world war ii and
01:25:08.720
adolf hitler because it boils down to well churchill was on the winning side of world war ii
01:25:13.840
hitler would have prevented woke ideology and mass immigration therefore hitler is responsible for
01:25:20.220
d uh churchill is responsible for dei and would essentially be a communist which is of course not
01:25:25.000
what is representative of churchill yeah well of course it's it's ridiculous to blame the policies
01:25:29.740
of tony blair and subsequent governments on you know a man who died in 1965 and who left office in the
01:25:36.160
1950s there's no possible way you can connect the two of those you have well you know every policy
01:25:41.500
is a is a creature of its own time you know it's up to other generations to change policies or
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whatever he never had any vision of how britain was going to end up or turn out the idea that
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churchill dragged america into the into the uh second world war he tried his best to get them in but it
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was actually the japanese people may remember december the 7th who actually uh brought uh and then
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germany declared war on america churchill had no responsibility for any of that also the idea that you
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know of daryl cooper it was interviewed by tucker carlson that churchill was the villain of the
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second war i can see myself losing a lot of people every time i talk about this about one third of my
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normal normal supporters turn against me but uh this is the reason i brought it up just at the end
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here is because it's something i see all the time and like i'm i'm as conversant with churchill as
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anyone who's done british history in school which is not very um but uh by by modern standards
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churchill would have been as far right and reactionary as it comes but there's no way he'd
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agree with it well you know the the left are accusing accusing of racism and killing off all
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these people in the bengal famine and then someone on the right and now saying well just thanks to him
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you've got massive immigration you can't have it both ways either he's one or the other and the idea
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that you could have sued for peace with hitler is a complete nonsense this is the other argument put
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forward that churchill should never have allied with with the soviet union and this was a huge mistake
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churchill you know from the moment of the revolution said we should strangle the baby
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bolshevism in its cradle and in 1945 he wanted the americans and the british and the canadians and the
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poles to carry on the war against the red army push the red army out of berlin out of germany out of
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poland you know he saw the threat from from the soviet union more than anybody else did 1946 fulton
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missouri from stetson in the baltic to trieste in the adriatic and iron curtain has descended nobody was a
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bigger foe of of communism but the reality was as khrushchev and stalin both admitted had it not been
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for for for russia for american and british aid russia would have collapsed and fallen and uh the fact is
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if russia had collapsed then the axis powers would have controlled europe middle east oil fields africa
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asia and australia australasia and then britain would have been a vassal state and eventually you know
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because hitler had napoleonic uh and alexander the great and julius caesar uh delusions and he would
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he wanted to achieve what napoleon never did conquer russia and conquer britain the the point
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being though is that if uh churchill was brought to here and now uh he would be a radical far rightist by
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any modern standards he would be completely against mass immigration as he was in his own time he'd be
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completely against communism as he was in his own time and i'm not in any way suggesting that
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churchill was perfect i don't think he was a great far from perfect and i'm not even talking
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on a personal level i think he was a terrible strategist uh i i think he's he made a series
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of military blunders but so what a lot of people did the point being i don't think he you can draw a
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direct line between him and woke dei stuff and lay it at his feet again let i'm happy to oppose the
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women's suffrage for example like churchill was kind of our reactionary in a lot of ways actually so i i am
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kind of annoyed to see him getting thrown so hard under the bus especially when there are much more
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germane people to the actual problem tony blair boris johnson anyway i'm not going to go on but the
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the point being churchill was not nearly as bad as people on the internet are making him out to be
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and he has a lot more in common with what we believe the way the world should be than what the
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left believe yeah look there are many legitimate reasons to criticize him on his policy on india his
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abdication crisis tying britain to the gold standard all of these the gallipoli the dardanelles
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lots of issues but those are fine these ones and on from the left the bengal famine and all of this
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there's no legs to that whatsoever yeah i agree i looked into that because i was thinking oh that's
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a bit weird and then it turns out no it's nonsense uh unsurprisingly but anyway so uh on that note go
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lads hour where i believe we are rating english kings uh so that should be fun see you then
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