The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 07, 2025


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1096


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1 hour and 30 minutes

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190.10959

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17,129

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 7th of February, 2025.
00:00:06.020 It's Friday, so the best day of the week. I'm joined by Stelios and Rafe Manku.
00:00:10.960 Sorry, how do I pronounce your name?
00:00:12.460 Rafe Hadel Manku.
00:00:13.680 Rafe Hadel Manku. I'm really sorry. I'm terrible with names. I can barely speak English.
00:00:17.320 This is a microaggression number one.
00:00:22.240 Yes, it is.
00:00:24.740 Anyway, today we're going to be talking about how reform are looking inevitable
00:00:28.160 and the difference between governments that will do something and won't do something
00:00:31.360 and just want to manage the decline
00:00:33.300 and how finally Britain might actually start taking nuclear power seriously.
00:00:38.500 A drum I've been banging for quite some time.
00:00:40.680 But honestly, I'm just so frustrated by the radical activism that surrounds energy production
00:00:48.320 that it's just one of those things that finally we're going to get the Gordian knot cut.
00:00:52.860 Anyway, right, let's begin.
00:00:53.840 So, seven months ago I made a video saying,
00:00:57.320 look, Nigel Farage may well end up as Prime Minister of this country.
00:01:01.060 Whether you like him or loathe him, it looks like there is a lot of energy behind him
00:01:05.680 and he is playing a wise game, actually, in what he's doing,
00:01:11.160 again, whether you agree with him or not.
00:01:12.740 And this seems to be paying off.
00:01:15.080 And the more time passes, the more it looks like the prediction in this video...
00:01:20.760 I try not to make predictions, but I can't help it sometimes.
00:01:24.700 The prediction in this video is going to come to pass
00:01:26.840 because only a few weeks ago, the end of January,
00:01:31.860 Labour were barely in the lead in various polls in the UK.
00:01:38.340 And then reform started coming ahead.
00:01:42.360 And again, this is January the 30th.
00:01:44.980 Coming ahead in polls that are not polls done by right-wing friendly pollsters.
00:01:52.260 For example, Find Out Now, very milquetoast.
00:01:56.320 Stats for Lefties has posted a YouGov poll here.
00:01:59.480 YouGov being famously slanted in One Direction because it's an online poller.
00:02:03.780 It happens to get a lot of left-wing people signing up for it.
00:02:07.460 Again, self-selected online polls.
00:02:09.140 But even in that, reform are ahead of the Labour Party
00:02:13.380 and significantly ahead of the Conservative Party.
00:02:17.520 And so that must be great news for Nigel.
00:02:19.720 It must be bad news for the establishment.
00:02:21.660 And it keeps getting worse.
00:02:23.540 But let's pause on this for a minute.
00:02:25.300 So this, again, was about the beginning of this week, actually.
00:02:32.220 And so that's going to result in a hung parliament.
00:02:36.640 Yeah, I mean, let's be clear here, right?
00:02:40.680 Labour has a stonking majority of 440-odd seats.
00:02:44.920 They have two-thirds of the seats in parliament,
00:02:47.020 despite only having one-third of the vote share, 33% they've got.
00:02:51.340 In fact, since the Second World War,
00:02:53.500 no government has been elected with the majority of the votes.
00:02:56.680 You only need to have around a third under first-past-the-post.
00:02:59.740 So there is a clear path to power.
00:03:02.440 We're still in early days.
00:03:03.880 I mean, the amount by which support for reform has increased in just a few months,
00:03:08.460 they could easily find themselves well within,
00:03:11.000 well over 35% or so by the time we get to the next election.
00:03:15.420 And it should be a wake-up call.
00:03:16.860 I mean, look, the reality is, you know,
00:03:19.020 60% of this country still votes for left-wing parties.
00:03:22.060 The only reason we've had a number of Conservative governments
00:03:24.440 is because there's only been one party on the right.
00:03:26.280 The left-wing votes split between SNP, Lib Dem, Greens, Labour, Plaid Cymru and so forth.
00:03:31.420 And we always thought we couldn't have two parties on the right
00:03:34.820 because you would never have a Conservative government
00:03:37.160 or a right-leaning government again.
00:03:39.280 Reform has shown that you can do that
00:03:40.840 because reform is actually taking votes not just from the Tories,
00:03:44.240 it's taking them from Labour.
00:03:46.060 And fundamentally important here,
00:03:48.320 three million people who didn't vote at all in 2024 have come over.
00:03:52.780 It also puts a lie to those wet Tories who said,
00:03:56.480 oh, no, no, during the Prime Ministerial campaign,
00:03:58.720 oh, we need to, you know, we forget about reform,
00:04:00.500 we need to lean more to the Lib Dems and get those votes.
00:04:02.720 Well, we know only 180,000 people who left the Tory party
00:04:07.920 went over to the Lib Dems.
00:04:09.360 1.2 million went to reform.
00:04:12.240 It is actually reform that's now setting the agenda.
00:04:15.220 That's why you're seeing now,
00:04:17.200 Kimi Badenoch finally setting her sights
00:04:19.400 and giving us at least one policy on immigration.
00:04:21.380 Milquetoast, though it still is,
00:04:23.800 to try and counter reform.
00:04:27.580 You know, Rupert Lowe I spoke with in November,
00:04:29.680 well, October last year,
00:04:30.680 and he said very confidently,
00:04:31.880 we're going to form the next government.
00:04:33.420 I thought that was hugely optimistic,
00:04:35.120 although not impossible,
00:04:36.400 but I think he was obviously seeing stuff
00:04:38.660 that I wasn't privy to at the time.
00:04:41.380 Sorry, go on, sir.
00:04:42.100 Oh, I just wanted to say that a lot of Labour defenders and advocates,
00:04:47.420 they forget that the Labour vote was a vote of,
00:04:50.700 let's say, dissatisfaction with the Tories.
00:04:54.040 It wasn't a vote for love for Starmer's agenda.
00:04:57.760 Well, you know, I'm not even persuaded by that, to be honest.
00:05:01.500 That is the sort of common narrative,
00:05:03.020 but I don't think that Conservative voters tend to go over to Labour.
00:05:07.600 And we can see this through the paucity of votes
00:05:11.500 that Labour got in the last election.
00:05:12.980 I mean, out of all of the voters who could have voted,
00:05:15.560 Labour got a fifth of them.
00:05:17.880 What happens with right-wing voters
00:05:20.500 is they don't vote for Labour as a protest.
00:05:22.580 They just don't vote at all.
00:05:24.640 And so we, in the last election,
00:05:26.300 we saw that 40% of the entire potential voter base
00:05:28.840 just didn't vote,
00:05:30.060 presumably out of massive dissatisfaction.
00:05:33.000 And so Nigel Farage had come in
00:05:35.620 and cut the legs out from underneath the Conservative Party,
00:05:38.900 which, under first-past-the-post,
00:05:40.540 puts Labour, with their third of the vote share
00:05:42.620 in each constituency, over the top,
00:05:45.700 giving them this huge majority,
00:05:47.020 and then underneath the simmering fight
00:05:49.060 between Conservatives and reform.
00:05:51.560 And the Conservatives are very clearly losing that.
00:05:54.280 And to be honest with you, I'm quite glad.
00:05:55.580 The Conservatives have presided over
00:05:57.780 possibly the biggest betrayal of the British electorate
00:06:00.680 that's ever happened.
00:06:02.500 Hard to think of anyone who'd done more damage
00:06:05.340 to the country than Boris Johnson, actually.
00:06:07.460 And that's something to say,
00:06:08.460 given what Tony Blair ushered into this country.
00:06:10.820 And of course, whenever, you know,
00:06:11.820 for years when we discussed the plight of mass immigration,
00:06:14.700 we always cited Tony Blair
00:06:16.360 as being the most dangerous Prime Minister we've ever had.
00:06:19.440 Well, I'm sorry, what he did pales in comparison
00:06:21.700 to what a Conservative government did
00:06:23.860 in terms of immigration.
00:06:25.680 Not just the numbers, but also the sources
00:06:27.620 of the immigrants who were coming here.
00:06:29.540 And there can be no greater crime, I would think,
00:06:31.760 than actually, you know, in my view,
00:06:34.560 signing the death warrant of this nation.
00:06:36.900 It's really hard to contest that.
00:06:39.060 Which suggests several commonalities
00:06:40.800 in the practice agenda.
00:06:42.900 Well, I have a bit of a difference there.
00:06:45.000 We know why Labour wanted mass immigration,
00:06:47.360 in large part because 80% of ethnic minorities
00:06:50.000 vote for the Labour Party.
00:06:51.280 So the thinking there was,
00:06:52.660 if we import millions of people,
00:06:54.100 remember Peter Mandelson sent out search parties
00:06:56.040 looking for immigrants.
00:06:57.280 The idea was, in the decades to come,
00:06:59.200 you would have a new demographic
00:07:00.320 that would ensure that the Labour Party
00:07:02.020 had majorities in all the elections.
00:07:03.920 And if you look at London,
00:07:05.160 you look at Birmingham and these places,
00:07:06.660 these are essentially becoming one-party states, right?
00:07:09.060 With the Tories, it was rather different
00:07:10.720 because the Tories were beholden to big business
00:07:13.220 and the CBI and so forth.
00:07:14.840 And big business, rather than invest
00:07:16.940 in expensive capital infrastructure,
00:07:19.420 you know, job automation, mechanisation,
00:07:22.420 machines that can pick apples and orchards
00:07:23.960 and so forth, they decided to flood the nation
00:07:25.980 with cheap labour, which would suppress wages
00:07:28.380 and negate the need for that costly investment,
00:07:31.320 which is why we're in the mess we're in now.
00:07:33.540 That's why I sort of think Japan,
00:07:34.920 everyone said, well, you know, Japan,
00:07:36.680 the oldest population in the world,
00:07:39.140 it needs immigration.
00:07:40.260 I think they may come out of this
00:07:41.520 as actually being the sanest people of all
00:07:43.400 because AI, robotics and healthcare,
00:07:46.020 social work and so forth,
00:07:47.380 may actually come in the end of the day
00:07:48.760 to save Japan.
00:07:50.460 That should have been the model we went down.
00:07:52.700 Oh, absolutely.
00:07:53.720 So just on this map,
00:07:55.140 I think this is fascinating.
00:07:56.700 I mean, if you look at the north of England,
00:07:58.160 which is normally just completely red,
00:08:01.260 not only is it not red at all,
00:08:04.220 but it's also giving over to the Conservatives
00:08:06.560 by this prediction,
00:08:07.460 which I think is fascinating.
00:08:09.960 So the Labour vote has collapsed so utterly,
00:08:12.180 it's now a scramble for the north,
00:08:13.740 for the Reform Party and the Conservative Party,
00:08:17.100 which are, of course,
00:08:18.040 not parties you would normally have associated with them.
00:08:20.800 And I think it's very optimistic
00:08:23.840 to think that the Conservatives
00:08:25.160 would be able to win that as well
00:08:26.300 because there's,
00:08:27.640 I think there's something about Nigel Farage
00:08:31.780 that is a kind of totemic Englishman.
00:08:33.940 He is, in many ways,
00:08:36.140 appealing on those grounds.
00:08:38.380 And he's got an unpretentious image,
00:08:46.240 I think,
00:08:46.820 when he's in the pub
00:08:47.800 and associating with people,
00:08:49.460 that is something that really does
00:08:51.540 actually swing people.
00:08:52.820 And I think a lot of people's love of Donald Trump
00:08:55.000 is,
00:08:55.320 oh, he's a lot like me.
00:08:56.640 Whether you like it or not,
00:08:57.780 representation actually does matter.
00:08:59.740 And I think that perhaps choosing
00:09:01.700 Kemi Badenok
00:09:02.480 as the leader of the Conservative Party
00:09:04.620 isn't going to swing those guys over,
00:09:06.380 not because they hate black people
00:09:08.160 or something like that,
00:09:09.320 but just because they don't see themselves in her.
00:09:12.160 Farage has good energy
00:09:13.300 and you need good energy to win elections,
00:09:15.640 Badenok just doesn't have it.
00:09:17.440 Yeah.
00:09:18.080 I think that's quite,
00:09:18.980 it's a good point you make then.
00:09:20.020 And I think that is their sort of strategy here
00:09:22.180 because, you know,
00:09:23.220 people, your viewers at home,
00:09:24.940 my view is the new cultural forum,
00:09:26.300 we all want reform and Farage
00:09:28.060 to be much stronger
00:09:29.460 on things like immigration.
00:09:31.060 And we're hugely disappointed
00:09:32.200 that he's not.
00:09:33.240 I often cite the statistic that,
00:09:34.980 you know,
00:09:35.160 men under 44 in this country
00:09:36.700 are more likely to vote for Trump
00:09:37.880 than for Farage.
00:09:39.220 But obviously,
00:09:40.220 what they're doing is winning.
00:09:41.920 And you have to remember
00:09:42.800 that we actually,
00:09:44.020 those people,
00:09:44.520 people who hold our views,
00:09:45.540 unfortunately,
00:09:46.000 we're still in the minority.
00:09:46.900 And Farage is speaking
00:09:48.820 to the great population as a whole.
00:09:51.680 And I almost think
00:09:52.560 it's like a good cop,
00:09:53.480 bad cop or a tag team duo
00:09:55.300 between him and Rupert Lowe.
00:09:56.780 Rupert Lowe doesn't have
00:09:57.560 national recognition.
00:09:58.440 People don't really know him
00:09:59.200 in the country,
00:10:00.000 but our people know him.
00:10:01.600 He is speaking our language.
00:10:02.860 So we feel someone's fighting
00:10:04.500 our corner in reform
00:10:05.580 and Nigel speaking to the rest
00:10:07.240 of the nation who think,
00:10:08.460 oh, actually,
00:10:08.780 reform's not that bad.
00:10:09.860 And I think that might be
00:10:10.620 the reasoning there.
00:10:12.040 It's actually a winning strategy
00:10:14.060 and it's clearly working.
00:10:15.840 One thing I'm approval,
00:10:17.500 one thing I really approve of
00:10:18.660 is how this is causing chaos
00:10:21.260 in both Labour
00:10:21.980 and the Conservatives.
00:10:23.200 So it was reported recently
00:10:24.960 that CCHQ staff
00:10:26.740 are holding a crisis meeting
00:10:28.040 today of the lack of funding
00:10:29.340 of the current polling situation.
00:10:31.340 And so they don't really
00:10:32.280 know what to do.
00:10:33.700 And Kemi Badenok
00:10:34.760 didn't exactly show
00:10:36.340 a great deal of leadership
00:10:37.520 on this
00:10:38.320 because she just told them
00:10:39.640 to quit if they can't deliver
00:10:40.980 on fundraising or campaigning.
00:10:43.260 One campaign manager
00:10:44.280 apparently said,
00:10:45.000 how can we campaign
00:10:45.680 when we've got no policies
00:10:46.580 to campaign on?
00:10:47.540 Which presumably is the source
00:10:49.360 of the very milquetoast,
00:10:51.300 if they've been here for 10 years
00:10:52.900 rather than five years,
00:10:53.820 we'll give them visas.
00:10:54.880 It's like,
00:10:55.280 why are we giving any,
00:10:56.440 why are they here?
00:10:57.600 Why are they here?
00:10:58.260 They can go home.
00:10:59.140 They've got homes of their own.
00:11:00.280 That's where they belong.
00:11:01.480 And the irony is,
00:11:02.180 if they want a raft of policies,
00:11:03.400 they just have to look
00:11:04.080 at Robert Jenrick's Twitter feed
00:11:05.320 to find all the policies
00:11:07.000 that actually would actually
00:11:08.520 have increased
00:11:09.140 their polling numbers
00:11:11.720 very clearly.
00:11:13.060 And of course,
00:11:13.360 as we on the right
00:11:14.000 were hoping for,
00:11:15.720 the reform and the Tories
00:11:17.640 would try to outflank each other
00:11:19.080 and Jenrick could have pulled
00:11:20.820 Farage actually more to the right,
00:11:22.580 which is a great deal.
00:11:23.740 But I'm sure the Tories
00:11:24.460 are feeling bias remorse.
00:11:25.740 I'm just amazed
00:11:26.380 that there's still anybody
00:11:27.120 in the north of England
00:11:27.780 who would vote for the Tory party,
00:11:29.500 having been betrayed,
00:11:30.460 not only on immigration,
00:11:31.300 but on levelling up
00:11:32.140 and everything else.
00:11:33.420 I mean,
00:11:33.600 you know,
00:11:33.880 the definition of insanity
00:11:35.020 is to keep voting
00:11:35.740 for the same...
00:11:36.580 Conservatives are creatures
00:11:37.760 of habit.
00:11:39.180 That is very...
00:11:40.140 That's a sad truth.
00:11:40.760 Definitely true, yeah.
00:11:42.280 But yeah,
00:11:43.120 no,
00:11:43.340 that's a great point
00:11:44.180 because there are so many things
00:11:45.460 on which the Conservatives
00:11:46.540 have just betrayed everyone.
00:11:48.700 And I don't want to give them
00:11:50.800 the benefit of the doubt,
00:11:51.500 but it really just seems
00:11:52.180 like weakness to me.
00:11:53.680 I'm sure that most
00:11:54.840 of the Conservative Party members
00:11:56.720 and most of their MPs
00:11:58.640 in the sort of generic mould
00:12:00.060 aren't people who hate
00:12:01.720 the United Kingdom
00:12:02.380 and want the worst for it.
00:12:03.760 I just can't help but notice
00:12:05.580 they don't seem to have any balls.
00:12:07.540 They can't stand up for anything.
00:12:09.540 And when they do,
00:12:10.220 they get kind of defence...
00:12:11.080 Well,
00:12:11.240 not defence rate,
00:12:11.840 but selected against
00:12:13.180 in the way that Jemreq was.
00:12:14.840 Well,
00:12:15.040 and just remember
00:12:15.580 that the average Tory MP
00:12:17.220 is to the left
00:12:18.340 of the average British person
00:12:20.220 on immigration.
00:12:21.800 That says it all.
00:12:22.820 Also,
00:12:23.240 of course,
00:12:23.520 remember,
00:12:24.260 the Tory party
00:12:24.800 isn't a Conservative party.
00:12:26.040 It's a neoliberal party
00:12:27.420 full of free market extremists
00:12:29.980 who don't believe
00:12:30.500 in borders either,
00:12:31.420 who are globalists.
00:12:33.060 You know,
00:12:33.200 the clue...
00:12:33.820 Conservatism,
00:12:34.840 the clue is in the name.
00:12:35.980 It's about conserving society.
00:12:37.540 Every strata of society,
00:12:38.720 every class...
00:12:39.240 Yeah,
00:12:39.360 the class called Conservatism.
00:12:39.940 ...needs to be protected,
00:12:40.680 you know.
00:12:41.080 That's not true conservatism
00:12:42.480 in Birkian ways.
00:12:43.340 It's not Scrutonian conservatism.
00:12:45.100 And the party should be renamed,
00:12:46.500 actually.
00:12:46.620 Well,
00:12:46.760 it should die,
00:12:47.340 perhaps,
00:12:48.000 whilst it's being renamed.
00:12:49.920 Well,
00:12:50.240 speaking of it dying,
00:12:51.980 they clearly feel
00:12:53.720 the winds of change coming.
00:12:55.500 Because Jacob Rees-Mogg
00:12:56.440 has recently said,
00:12:58.100 look,
00:12:58.960 reform and the Conservatives
00:13:00.040 need an alliance.
00:13:01.000 Now,
00:13:02.140 I'm not a member
00:13:03.140 of either party,
00:13:04.620 and I would be happy
00:13:05.820 to support either party
00:13:07.060 if they were doing
00:13:07.580 what I wanted them to do.
00:13:09.420 So actually,
00:13:10.060 on this,
00:13:10.400 I'm kind of neutral.
00:13:11.660 I really don't mind,
00:13:12.940 you know,
00:13:13.260 which one gets the job done
00:13:15.720 as long as the job is done.
00:13:17.120 And as a kind of
00:13:18.580 dispassionate observer,
00:13:19.840 I can't help but notice
00:13:20.680 this is a profound statement
00:13:22.020 of weakness
00:13:22.680 from a party
00:13:23.840 that feels like
00:13:24.640 it's probably mortally wounded.
00:13:27.460 Farage is eating you alive.
00:13:29.260 Why would he want an alliance?
00:13:31.500 Yeah,
00:13:31.720 for the world's oldest
00:13:32.840 and most successful
00:13:33.600 political party
00:13:34.480 to now be calling
00:13:35.660 for an alliance
00:13:36.400 shows you their weakness
00:13:37.280 because they were
00:13:37.900 so arrogant before.
00:13:39.120 They would never think
00:13:39.920 about any of that.
00:13:40.940 They even refused
00:13:41.580 to stand down seats
00:13:42.560 in the 2019 election.
00:13:44.280 And Farage did.
00:13:45.100 Yeah,
00:13:45.760 for Farage.
00:13:47.680 And,
00:13:48.080 you know,
00:13:48.880 quite simply,
00:13:49.780 if you look at
00:13:50.580 the state of the Tory party,
00:13:53.240 Canada offers
00:13:54.200 the example there.
00:13:55.280 The Reform Party
00:13:55.920 doesn't need an alliance.
00:13:56.820 It needs to do
00:13:57.420 a hostile takeover
00:13:58.540 of the Tory party.
00:14:00.220 Back in 1993,
00:14:01.520 the Conservative government
00:14:02.460 and the Progressive
00:14:03.520 Conservative Party
00:14:04.360 of Canada,
00:14:04.880 there's an oxymoron
00:14:05.640 for a name,
00:14:06.460 the Progressive government
00:14:07.000 went down from being
00:14:07.700 the ruling government
00:14:08.980 to having only two seats
00:14:10.060 in Parliament.
00:14:11.040 And the Reform Party
00:14:12.020 of Canada,
00:14:13.140 which was basically
00:14:13.780 a Western party of Canada
00:14:15.060 of the Prairies
00:14:15.620 and so forth,
00:14:16.700 they became the biggest
00:14:17.680 right-wing party
00:14:18.460 and essentially
00:14:19.220 they took over
00:14:20.040 the fledgling PCs
00:14:22.040 and they created
00:14:22.980 a new Conservative Party
00:14:24.020 which you see today
00:14:24.760 which is much more
00:14:25.740 right-wing than the old PCs
00:14:26.880 led by Pierre Piolliver.
00:14:28.520 That's what needs
00:14:29.280 to happen in this shape.
00:14:30.500 No alliance,
00:14:31.460 hostile takeover.
00:14:33.060 Maybe it was just me
00:14:34.360 but it seems to me
00:14:35.180 that the Tories
00:14:35.840 had zero arguments
00:14:36.680 in the previous elections
00:14:37.720 and the only argument
00:14:39.080 they had was
00:14:39.840 a vote for reform
00:14:41.220 is a vote
00:14:41.780 that is splitting the right
00:14:42.900 and on this rationale
00:14:45.080 right now
00:14:45.800 a vote for Conservative
00:14:47.040 for Tories
00:14:48.640 is splitting the right.
00:14:49.600 Well, that's assuming
00:14:52.080 the Conservatives
00:14:52.780 have any
00:14:53.320 left in the right
00:14:54.920 No, I'm just saying
00:14:55.680 that they are losing
00:14:56.480 on the ground
00:14:58.000 of their own rhetoric.
00:14:59.460 You're being absolutely correct.
00:15:01.700 And so yeah,
00:15:02.460 I mean,
00:15:02.920 Zia Youssef
00:15:03.760 noticed this
00:15:05.580 and obviously replied
00:15:06.720 well,
00:15:07.460 why would we need that?
00:15:08.840 We're going to win
00:15:09.860 a decisive victory
00:15:10.820 and to be honest with you
00:15:11.860 I think they're on track
00:15:13.380 to do so.
00:15:14.620 It looks more and more
00:15:16.120 like, in fact,
00:15:17.400 reform are going to be
00:15:19.760 the next party of government
00:15:21.020 and all we're going
00:15:22.200 to have to do
00:15:22.640 is just wait out
00:15:23.540 this zombie Labour government
00:15:25.100 until they finally collapse.
00:15:26.920 I mean,
00:15:27.220 just as a quick point
00:15:28.180 on that, Rafe,
00:15:29.040 how long do you think
00:15:30.120 Starmer can possibly last for?
00:15:32.120 Well, it's a good question.
00:15:33.140 I've been asked before.
00:15:34.160 It's impossible to predict
00:15:35.200 any of these sorts of things.
00:15:37.120 Who's going to succeed him
00:15:38.440 with the Dawn Angela Ring?
00:15:40.040 I mean,
00:15:40.700 who's going to improve
00:15:41.720 the lot and chances,
00:15:43.200 Clive Lewis?
00:15:43.940 It's difficult to think
00:15:45.000 of who's going to be there
00:15:46.400 but, you know,
00:15:47.400 the media establishment
00:15:48.480 are also sort of,
00:15:49.500 you know,
00:15:49.880 protecting him so much
00:15:51.280 from all of these sorts
00:15:52.440 of secret stories
00:15:53.940 and scandals
00:15:54.600 that are existing.
00:15:56.100 I don't know,
00:15:56.800 it's impossible to say
00:15:57.520 but in any event,
00:15:59.900 I did say
00:16:01.160 when he first got to power
00:16:02.360 that it would be impossible
00:16:03.400 to see how this majority
00:16:04.920 could go away
00:16:05.800 in five years
00:16:06.560 but, of course,
00:16:07.760 reform is nipping
00:16:08.560 at the heels
00:16:09.180 and so many,
00:16:09.900 and we've just seen this
00:16:10.760 and I think, you know,
00:16:11.700 whether it's,
00:16:13.340 whoever's leading it,
00:16:14.880 we just have to look forward
00:16:15.700 to the four years' time.
00:16:17.400 Yeah, so I mean,
00:16:18.180 for anyone who's not British
00:16:19.360 and doesn't know
00:16:19.880 how the system works,
00:16:20.520 basically,
00:16:21.260 there's no legal mechanism
00:16:22.320 for us to be able
00:16:22.840 to get rid of Starmer
00:16:23.880 any earlier than
00:16:25.040 he wants to go.
00:16:26.540 It would have to come
00:16:27.420 from within the Labour Party
00:16:28.360 themselves
00:16:28.760 and they're not really
00:16:29.660 inclined to give up power
00:16:30.920 once they seize it
00:16:31.840 because Labour often
00:16:33.040 spends decades
00:16:33.860 out of power
00:16:34.580 and so,
00:16:35.660 to enact their,
00:16:36.400 what is essentially
00:16:36.940 a communist agenda,
00:16:38.020 they need to cling on to it
00:16:39.700 for as long as they can.
00:16:41.100 But there does have to come
00:16:42.260 a time where literally,
00:16:43.740 you know,
00:16:43.940 everyone's like,
00:16:44.760 here,
00:16:44.940 you're destroying the party.
00:16:46.380 You have to go.
00:16:47.520 The Tories are notorious
00:16:48.620 for actually,
00:16:49.500 you know,
00:16:49.880 defenestrating their leaders
00:16:51.280 when they're not winners
00:16:52.040 but Labour Party,
00:16:53.040 for some reason,
00:16:53.920 holds on to them.
00:16:55.340 But there has to come
00:16:56.520 a time where,
00:16:57.640 okay,
00:16:57.900 Kier,
00:16:58.280 you are in charge
00:16:59.080 and no one can make you leave
00:17:00.240 but everyone around you
00:17:01.380 is saying,
00:17:01.660 look,
00:17:01.700 I mean,
00:17:01.980 if Labour gets to sort of,
00:17:03.380 you know,
00:17:03.960 19,
00:17:04.740 18% of the polls,
00:17:05.980 surely they're going to
00:17:06.480 look,
00:17:06.680 Kier,
00:17:06.780 you're going to destroy
00:17:07.440 our party.
00:17:08.560 You just have to go
00:17:09.800 and there will come a point
00:17:11.560 where the pressure will mount
00:17:12.960 and even someone as disensouled
00:17:16.500 as Kier Starmer
00:17:17.380 will have to understand
00:17:18.340 that it's time.
00:17:20.540 So I would be surprised
00:17:21.700 if Kier Starmer actually
00:17:22.400 does last out the full five years.
00:17:24.120 But of course,
00:17:24.360 one of the other things
00:17:24.840 we should point out
00:17:25.440 about Labour,
00:17:26.040 of course,
00:17:26.300 is that their decline
00:17:27.480 hasn't just gone to reform,
00:17:28.680 of course,
00:17:29.020 it's also a fact
00:17:29.960 that many people on the left
00:17:31.080 feel,
00:17:32.040 you know,
00:17:32.160 people like the Owen Joneses
00:17:33.240 of this world
00:17:33.840 feel that the Labour Party
00:17:34.820 isn't left-wing enough,
00:17:36.000 you know,
00:17:36.180 as if Stalin wasn't very left-wing.
00:17:38.800 And also,
00:17:39.880 the Muslim vote,
00:17:40.560 of course,
00:17:40.880 has departed and left,
00:17:42.020 you know,
00:17:42.340 because of the,
00:17:43.060 you saw,
00:17:43.860 just as big as the Reform Party
00:17:45.460 results in the last election
00:17:46.980 was the election
00:17:47.620 of five Muslim vote MPs.
00:17:49.100 And of course,
00:17:49.780 you know,
00:17:50.380 Labour's prediction
00:17:51.040 that 80% of ethnic minorities
00:17:52.380 will vote for Labour
00:17:53.140 didn't take that into account.
00:17:54.760 So they've invited in
00:17:55.620 the very forces
00:17:56.260 that are undermining it.
00:17:57.480 Yes,
00:17:57.720 they fail to understand
00:17:58.480 that actually,
00:17:59.060 if you allow them
00:17:59.520 to concentrate in certain areas,
00:18:01.180 then they can just vote
00:18:01.900 for themselves.
00:18:03.300 And honestly,
00:18:03.980 at the next election,
00:18:04.580 we'll probably see
00:18:05.020 a Muslim party of Britain
00:18:06.060 that wins seats.
00:18:07.460 By the way,
00:18:08.280 thanks Labour,
00:18:08.920 thanks Tony Blair,
00:18:09.500 thanks Boris.
00:18:10.580 Much appreciated
00:18:11.380 for all of that.
00:18:12.120 Anyway,
00:18:12.520 but good for Reform,
00:18:13.640 and good for Rupert Lowe here
00:18:14.500 pointing out,
00:18:15.220 this is historic,
00:18:16.040 and he's absolutely right,
00:18:17.080 but that is a really
00:18:18.120 sizable lead.
00:18:19.440 A four-point lead in this,
00:18:20.860 again,
00:18:21.260 find out now poll.
00:18:21.980 Again,
00:18:22.620 it's not like
00:18:23.320 a right-wing pollster.
00:18:25.560 It's not Matthew Goodwin
00:18:26.740 who's done a poll
00:18:27.640 and found Reform
00:18:28.360 in the lead or anything.
00:18:29.080 No,
00:18:29.320 these are people
00:18:30.280 who obviously
00:18:30.740 don't have any sympathy.
00:18:31.720 And so when you
00:18:32.300 start mapping it out,
00:18:34.340 my God.
00:18:35.780 And it's many different polls.
00:18:37.160 It's not just one.
00:18:38.640 Well,
00:18:39.100 I think this is just
00:18:40.020 from the Find Out Now poll.
00:18:42.960 Yeah,
00:18:43.360 it's just one poll.
00:18:44.440 But still,
00:18:45.140 it's representative
00:18:46.320 of a trend
00:18:47.120 where Reform
00:18:48.180 have been in the lead
00:18:49.220 now consistently
00:18:49.820 for a week
00:18:50.620 in these polls.
00:18:52.080 And so what you can see
00:18:53.280 for anyone,
00:18:53.940 what we can see
00:18:54.460 for anyone listening
00:18:55.020 is a complete collapse
00:18:56.860 of the Conservatives,
00:18:57.680 basically.
00:18:58.580 The Labour Party
00:18:59.460 has clawed back
00:19:01.840 potentially a few
00:19:03.280 districts in the north,
00:19:05.560 but England,
00:19:06.540 basically,
00:19:07.040 England is going to Farage.
00:19:08.180 And it reinforces
00:19:09.360 how divided
00:19:10.020 our kingdom is
00:19:10.860 because you just have to
00:19:11.700 look at Scotland
00:19:12.380 to see that
00:19:13.120 all the disillusionment
00:19:14.400 with Labour
00:19:15.160 has made people
00:19:16.400 go back
00:19:16.960 to that awful
00:19:18.280 corrupt organisation,
00:19:19.420 the SNP.
00:19:20.520 You've got to be
00:19:20.920 very desperate
00:19:21.540 to actually think
00:19:22.440 of the SNP
00:19:23.160 as being a better
00:19:24.240 vote than Labour.
00:19:25.460 So again,
00:19:26.140 you know,
00:19:26.560 the Tories and Reform
00:19:27.880 unable to make
00:19:28.680 inroads in Scotland.
00:19:30.420 Yeah,
00:19:30.660 they've never had
00:19:31.240 any good messaging
00:19:31.860 on that.
00:19:33.180 But one thing
00:19:34.000 that I find frustrating
00:19:35.800 is the South West,
00:19:38.000 actually,
00:19:38.800 going so heavily
00:19:39.960 for the Lib Dems.
00:19:40.760 Now,
00:19:40.980 I mean,
00:19:41.220 we were as Brexit-y
00:19:42.240 as anywhere.
00:19:43.320 We voted for Brexit
00:19:44.540 almost all
00:19:45.380 of the South West
00:19:46.060 of England,
00:19:46.500 almost all Wessex
00:19:47.460 wanted Brexit
00:19:48.580 and yet for some reason
00:19:49.620 we were controlled
00:19:50.980 by Remainers.
00:19:52.040 And I think
00:19:52.720 this is generally
00:19:53.400 because of a lack
00:19:54.740 of proper campaigning
00:19:56.300 on the subject.
00:19:57.460 Because, I mean,
00:19:58.160 obviously everyone
00:19:59.000 and their mother
00:19:59.660 knows that Brexit
00:20:00.620 just has not been
00:20:01.660 implemented.
00:20:02.400 Nothing has been done
00:20:03.140 because of a lack
00:20:04.480 of competitive attitude.
00:20:07.920 And this has been
00:20:08.400 the major problem.
00:20:09.220 For example,
00:20:09.640 in this country,
00:20:10.340 corporation tax
00:20:11.100 didn't go up
00:20:11.740 recently actually,
00:20:12.460 but it's at least
00:20:13.020 25%.
00:20:14.060 Whereas in Ireland,
00:20:15.680 another English-speaking
00:20:16.800 European country,
00:20:18.060 it's 12.5%.
00:20:19.320 So we are being
00:20:20.720 directly undercut
00:20:21.900 by half
00:20:22.700 and that's why
00:20:23.540 if you are
00:20:24.440 a social media user,
00:20:26.240 all the Silicon
00:20:27.000 Tech Valley giants
00:20:28.080 have their headquarters
00:20:28.940 there and not London
00:20:30.160 or somewhere in England
00:20:31.360 because they pay
00:20:32.500 half the tax.
00:20:33.240 And so whenever
00:20:33.760 anyone from Twitter
00:20:35.260 or YouTube
00:20:35.740 or wherever gets
00:20:36.580 any money off
00:20:37.240 Silicon Valley,
00:20:37.940 you'll notice that
00:20:38.720 it comes from
00:20:39.160 Google Ireland,
00:20:40.120 X Ireland,
00:20:41.320 Facebook Ireland.
00:20:42.360 And so this is
00:20:43.980 the entire,
00:20:45.060 this is,
00:20:45.780 I mean,
00:20:46.040 just one aspect
00:20:47.000 of our complete failure
00:20:48.340 to try and be competitive.
00:20:50.380 We're not looking
00:20:51.300 at the European continent
00:20:52.640 as something we have
00:20:53.360 to defeat,
00:20:54.020 which is very frustrating.
00:20:55.540 And I think that
00:20:56.540 this kind of messaging
00:20:57.540 might actually work
00:20:58.620 quite well with
00:20:59.680 voters in the Southwest
00:21:01.160 because the Southwest
00:21:01.940 is fairly opulent,
00:21:04.300 actually,
00:21:04.760 as England goes.
00:21:06.200 It's not the North.
00:21:07.500 It's not London,
00:21:08.280 but it's,
00:21:09.260 you know,
00:21:10.480 fairly well to do.
00:21:11.900 But we are patriotic people
00:21:13.460 and what we would like
00:21:14.480 to see is business
00:21:15.340 competition.
00:21:16.160 We would like to make
00:21:16.980 it easier to do that.
00:21:18.040 But you see,
00:21:18.500 Southwest England
00:21:19.380 mirrors Southwest London
00:21:21.040 because they are the
00:21:22.120 most homogenous parts
00:21:23.440 of the nation
00:21:24.020 along with Scotland.
00:21:25.600 And so therefore,
00:21:26.660 you know,
00:21:26.860 these areas are the most
00:21:28.020 pro-immigration
00:21:28.760 because they don't
00:21:29.520 experience it.
00:21:30.240 They're not at the
00:21:30.680 coalface
00:21:31.240 and the areas that are blue
00:21:32.960 are at the coalface.
00:21:35.260 And I think it's the failure
00:21:36.640 to actually understand
00:21:37.740 the full crisis
00:21:39.580 of immigration
00:21:40.280 that explains
00:21:41.060 why reform hasn't
00:21:42.340 taken quite the hold there,
00:21:43.760 along with the fact
00:21:44.420 that the Lib Dems
00:21:45.320 have the best ground network
00:21:47.280 of any political party.
00:21:48.620 So when it comes
00:21:49.040 to campaigning,
00:21:49.980 they're able to get
00:21:50.800 their vote out.
00:21:51.900 That's what reform
00:21:52.600 is doing right now.
00:21:53.460 They're actually copying
00:21:54.280 the Lib Dems,
00:21:54.980 trying to replicate
00:21:56.140 their groundwork.
00:21:57.240 So maybe over the next
00:21:58.660 two, three, four years,
00:21:59.740 you will see reform
00:22:00.520 making inroads there too.
00:22:01.980 But again,
00:22:02.400 I think immigration
00:22:03.140 will be the deciding factor.
00:22:04.820 That's why,
00:22:05.200 you know,
00:22:05.320 some people will say,
00:22:05.960 well, you know,
00:22:06.380 Angela Rayner's plan
00:22:07.240 to disperse asylum seekers
00:22:08.980 elsewhere might actually
00:22:10.340 change the voting system.
00:22:13.600 I'm not happy with
00:22:14.340 how little Nigel Farage
00:22:15.660 is winning in the Southwest,
00:22:16.940 says Angela Rayner.
00:22:17.680 I can change that.
00:22:19.120 But this is the point
00:22:20.520 I wanted to make, though,
00:22:21.280 is if you're a reform
00:22:22.940 party strategist
00:22:23.980 and you're wondering
00:22:24.920 why you're not getting
00:22:26.160 anywhere in the Southwest,
00:22:27.000 you're absolutely correct.
00:22:28.800 The problem isn't
00:22:29.980 immigration in the Southwest,
00:22:31.260 it's stagnation.
00:22:32.540 And if you were to do
00:22:34.560 essentially what Thatcher
00:22:35.320 did with Essex and say,
00:22:36.300 look, we're going to make
00:22:37.220 you very rich.
00:22:38.740 Your standard of living
00:22:39.700 is going down.
00:22:40.300 We're not happy with that.
00:22:40.980 We know you're hardworking.
00:22:41.820 We know you're patriotic.
00:22:43.080 Actually, we're going to
00:22:44.440 essentially conquer Europe
00:22:46.000 economically.
00:22:47.500 You could have a very
00:22:48.800 aggressive campaign
00:22:49.600 because, like I said,
00:22:50.660 we were pro-Brexit.
00:22:52.340 We are a Brexit area as well.
00:22:54.120 We are not natural
00:22:55.100 liberal Democrats.
00:22:56.160 The reason the Lib Dems
00:22:57.080 are getting anywhere
00:22:57.560 is because essentially
00:22:58.800 that it's a kind of
00:22:59.980 non-political statement
00:23:02.340 to vote for the
00:23:03.080 Liberal Democrats.
00:23:04.160 Say, I don't really
00:23:04.720 want to talk about politics.
00:23:05.640 I vote Lib Dems.
00:23:06.660 This is what Ed Davies'
00:23:07.840 campaign was entirely
00:23:08.500 based on.
00:23:09.140 Look at him at some
00:23:10.340 water world or whatever
00:23:11.240 it was, like an actual
00:23:12.280 clown.
00:23:13.240 He's not proposing
00:23:13.900 any policies.
00:23:14.480 He's not talking about
00:23:14.880 anything interesting.
00:23:16.080 So, anyway,
00:23:17.980 some good news.
00:23:21.640 Just saw this come
00:23:22.500 on my feed.
00:23:23.560 I was like, well,
00:23:24.020 okay, yes.
00:23:25.080 I would like Lisa Nandy
00:23:26.240 to lose her seat.
00:23:27.280 And as you said,
00:23:28.100 Farage is well aware
00:23:29.880 that if you vote Tory,
00:23:31.600 you're going to get Labour.
00:23:32.800 And this seems to be true.
00:23:36.020 Farage is actually the
00:23:37.080 most popular party leader
00:23:38.060 in the country as well
00:23:39.220 as having the most
00:23:40.780 popular party in the
00:23:41.940 country.
00:23:42.800 So, I take it you saw
00:23:43.800 the other day when he
00:23:44.560 was in Parliament and
00:23:45.220 they were jeering him
00:23:46.100 and telling him to
00:23:46.740 resign.
00:23:47.700 And Farage take it
00:23:49.060 personally, and I don't
00:23:49.860 know why.
00:23:50.620 If I were Farage, I'd
00:23:51.720 be looking at them with
00:23:52.420 contempt and say,
00:23:53.160 you're all sitting in
00:23:53.860 my seats.
00:23:54.900 You're on borrowed
00:23:55.820 time.
00:23:56.740 Look at the polls.
00:23:57.400 You know you're all
00:23:58.400 gone come the next
00:23:59.500 election.
00:24:00.320 So, enjoy the time
00:24:01.000 while you've got it
00:24:01.900 and you'll see me
00:24:03.200 soon.
00:24:04.000 But for some reason,
00:24:05.080 he's been taking it
00:24:05.640 personally.
00:24:05.960 He doesn't need to.
00:24:07.320 From all of the
00:24:08.360 indications so far,
00:24:09.280 he is on track to win
00:24:10.340 a massive majority
00:24:11.780 and absolutely destroy
00:24:13.240 the Uniparty.
00:24:14.460 And so, like you said
00:24:15.400 earlier, there are a lot
00:24:16.300 of people in our spaces
00:24:17.060 where it's like, well,
00:24:17.620 he's not really right
00:24:18.220 wing enough.
00:24:18.600 Yeah, okay, yeah,
00:24:19.140 yeah, fair enough.
00:24:20.420 But crushing the Uniparty
00:24:21.580 is going to be an
00:24:22.640 amazing service to the
00:24:24.440 right in this country.
00:24:25.320 And so, I'm more than
00:24:26.900 happy to support
00:24:27.500 Faraj for that reason.
00:24:29.200 Yeah, and you know,
00:24:30.380 the best we can hope,
00:24:31.240 I mean, look, let's face
00:24:32.500 facts, the Reform Party
00:24:33.500 is the only game in town.
00:24:35.240 If we're going to have,
00:24:36.360 you know, a reverse
00:24:37.140 long march with
00:24:37.880 institutions and do
00:24:38.840 everything else, you
00:24:39.740 know, have a MAGA
00:24:40.400 light, it's only going to
00:24:42.020 be with Reform.
00:24:42.880 That's realistic.
00:24:43.780 You know, UKIP, all
00:24:44.880 these other parties,
00:24:46.060 lovely, but no one even
00:24:47.160 has heard of them in the
00:24:48.220 broader population.
00:24:49.720 The best we can hope
00:24:50.440 for, or my hope is,
00:24:51.780 that what Reform is doing
00:24:52.980 is essentially trying to
00:24:54.300 copy what Tony Blair did
00:24:56.240 in 97 and what Starmer
00:24:57.880 did, essentially talk a
00:24:59.500 rather centrist approach,
00:25:01.720 but have a radical plan
00:25:02.960 and agenda.
00:25:03.880 That means being
00:25:04.660 deceitful, I suppose,
00:25:05.680 but that's my only hope
00:25:07.120 for how we can actually
00:25:07.900 get proper policies
00:25:09.100 installed.
00:25:09.620 If they're not going to
00:25:10.120 be announcing them now,
00:25:11.460 maybe that's their plan
00:25:12.480 to essentially bring them
00:25:13.580 in once they got into
00:25:14.560 power and have a much
00:25:15.320 more radical agenda
00:25:16.140 than perhaps they told
00:25:17.320 the public.
00:25:18.900 Please let it be true.
00:25:20.220 Please let it be true.
00:25:21.220 Again, that's the
00:25:22.380 optimistic side.
00:25:23.440 Yeah.
00:25:24.540 The pessimistic side
00:25:25.840 is that Nigel Farage
00:25:27.560 is actually kind of as
00:25:28.440 wet as he is appearing
00:25:29.400 in the campaign trail,
00:25:30.440 which isn't optimistic,
00:25:31.280 but I don't know.
00:25:32.600 I'm not sure that he is.
00:25:33.540 Who knows?
00:25:34.200 We'll find out.
00:25:35.600 Well, the other hope is,
00:25:36.420 of course, after two years
00:25:37.840 or three years of MAGA,
00:25:39.900 there will be a tsunami
00:25:40.720 coming over the Atlantic
00:25:41.900 that will crash on our
00:25:42.980 shores and move that
00:25:43.800 Overton window so we can
00:25:45.100 actually discuss, you know,
00:25:46.500 I would, you know,
00:25:46.960 Tony Blair's campaign
00:25:48.080 slogan was education,
00:25:49.380 education, education,
00:25:50.340 and hopefully by then
00:25:51.440 it'll be re-migration,
00:25:52.620 re-migration, re-migration.
00:25:54.880 Well, if Rupert Lowe
00:25:55.680 has anything to do with it,
00:25:56.900 it seems that we're
00:25:57.800 on that track.
00:25:59.360 And let's go to some
00:26:00.020 comments quickly.
00:26:00.900 Glee says,
00:26:01.700 what role could a
00:26:02.360 potentially resurgent UKIP
00:26:03.740 play under Nick Tenconi
00:26:05.060 in the 2029 election?
00:26:06.480 Honestly, I don't see it
00:26:08.280 happening.
00:26:08.860 It's not that I have
00:26:10.020 anything against Nick Tenconi
00:26:11.100 or UKIP or anything like
00:26:12.000 that.
00:26:12.520 I just think you're
00:26:13.240 exactly right.
00:26:14.040 Reform is the only game
00:26:15.480 in town.
00:26:15.860 They're the ones sucking
00:26:16.780 up the right-wing energy.
00:26:18.340 We just have to accept it
00:26:19.340 and make the best of it.
00:26:21.180 And Annexio says,
00:26:22.260 Labour are doing a great
00:26:23.040 job promoting reform.
00:26:24.180 Look at Peter Lamb,
00:26:25.220 who said pensioners
00:26:25.920 have a choice whether
00:26:26.840 to freeze or not.
00:26:27.780 Crawley turned on him
00:26:28.620 and now he's looking
00:26:29.220 to be a reform win.
00:26:31.440 Yeah, well, that's the
00:26:32.220 thing.
00:26:32.480 I mean, what Labour want
00:26:33.940 is fundamentally evil.
00:26:36.360 And it's actually quite
00:26:37.980 easy to do nothing
00:26:39.060 and find yourself
00:26:39.980 in the winning position.
00:26:41.000 Because, I mean,
00:26:41.300 really all Farage is
00:26:42.200 doing is letting his
00:26:43.220 opponents fall apart.
00:26:44.800 Which, again,
00:26:45.240 is a perfectly sound
00:26:45.920 strategy.
00:26:46.340 Why interrupt your
00:26:48.060 enemies when they're
00:26:48.540 making a mistake?
00:26:50.080 Of course, a lot of this
00:26:50.940 could change once people
00:26:51.980 see the policies.
00:26:53.140 Because, again,
00:26:53.760 a lot of this is just
00:26:54.760 people being disaffected
00:26:55.980 by the Tories and Labour.
00:26:58.200 If they see the policies,
00:26:59.600 maybe it'll turn off
00:27:00.460 a lot of people too.
00:27:01.960 That's something also
00:27:02.760 we need to factor
00:27:03.400 into all of this.
00:27:04.460 Yeah, it's a needle
00:27:06.180 that reform have to
00:27:07.340 think about threading.
00:27:08.340 Anyway, let's move on.
00:27:10.940 Right, so I think that
00:27:12.240 2025 is a very
00:27:13.940 seminal year.
00:27:14.780 Historians will remember
00:27:16.120 it as the year that
00:27:17.080 the tide has turned
00:27:18.200 or that the tide turned
00:27:20.120 because the conception
00:27:21.780 of what is politically
00:27:22.740 possible has radically
00:27:24.460 shifted.
00:27:25.840 It happened with
00:27:27.860 three people
00:27:28.640 and three is the
00:27:29.520 magical number
00:27:30.200 in persuasion
00:27:31.040 and in rhetoric.
00:27:32.560 First came Bukele,
00:27:33.600 then came Millet,
00:27:34.760 then came Trump.
00:27:36.280 So I think that
00:27:37.040 this trinity
00:27:38.620 has been completed
00:27:39.840 and it actually
00:27:41.980 pushes forward
00:27:43.940 for the complete
00:27:45.180 change in the
00:27:47.220 people's conception
00:27:48.140 of what is
00:27:48.800 politically possible
00:27:49.660 because before
00:27:50.400 that,
00:27:53.420 most people would
00:27:54.280 say that
00:27:54.940 politics is just
00:27:56.840 the micromanagement
00:27:58.280 of decline.
00:27:59.320 It's just downhill
00:28:00.420 from here.
00:28:01.360 There is zero
00:28:01.920 representation.
00:28:03.220 No one cares
00:28:03.780 actually to represent
00:28:04.880 their voting base.
00:28:06.860 No one cares
00:28:07.560 for the safety
00:28:08.480 of their people.
00:28:09.080 it's just going
00:28:10.080 downhill.
00:28:11.040 But I think that
00:28:11.800 we see now
00:28:13.240 a lot of leaders
00:28:14.820 who are doing
00:28:15.620 the exact opposite.
00:28:17.100 I think that this
00:28:17.740 is particularly good
00:28:18.660 and let me just
00:28:19.480 give you a very
00:28:20.560 brief,
00:28:21.360 very brief
00:28:22.920 introduction to this
00:28:23.840 and contrast it
00:28:24.720 with politics in Europe
00:28:25.820 because I think
00:28:27.000 that the
00:28:27.680 distinction
00:28:29.900 between how
00:28:30.740 politics right now
00:28:32.020 is exercised
00:28:32.760 in the Americas
00:28:33.780 and how it is
00:28:34.560 exercised in Europe
00:28:36.060 is becoming
00:28:36.740 much more visible
00:28:37.820 and the more
00:28:38.500 people are
00:28:39.100 viewing this
00:28:40.260 the more likely
00:28:41.120 they are to
00:28:41.840 want this
00:28:43.080 and to demand
00:28:43.980 the self-evident
00:28:47.160 because to actually
00:28:48.920 represent your people
00:28:50.020 in a democracy
00:28:51.020 is what
00:28:51.760 a democracy
00:28:52.960 is supposed to be about.
00:28:54.140 Sounds like
00:28:54.480 dangerous populism to me.
00:28:56.040 I think we need
00:28:56.860 a bureaucracy
00:28:57.300 to manage the
00:28:58.380 decline and
00:28:59.580 reallocation of resources
00:29:01.500 to make sure
00:29:02.000 everyone gets
00:29:02.580 to share.
00:29:03.800 So what I wanted
00:29:04.900 to say is that
00:29:05.600 for instance
00:29:06.020 El Salvador
00:29:06.700 Bukela was in
00:29:07.940 El Salvador
00:29:08.500 El Salvador
00:29:09.800 was at once
00:29:11.220 the murder
00:29:11.960 capital of the world
00:29:13.020 he came in
00:29:14.200 he put some
00:29:15.200 bad people
00:29:15.680 in prison
00:29:16.160 now El Salvador
00:29:17.840 is one of the
00:29:19.940 safest countries
00:29:20.600 Not rocket science
00:29:21.500 is it?
00:29:21.880 It's not rocket science
00:29:22.860 and actually
00:29:23.720 one of the
00:29:24.600 good things
00:29:25.560 about it
00:29:25.980 is that
00:29:26.360 we don't need
00:29:28.400 a revolution
00:29:29.120 in philosophy
00:29:30.080 or something
00:29:30.680 we don't need
00:29:31.260 something radical
00:29:31.980 we actually need
00:29:33.160 people to enforce
00:29:34.120 laws
00:29:34.560 that have been
00:29:35.880 adopted
00:29:36.460 and embraced
00:29:37.380 for decades
00:29:38.420 but in the last
00:29:39.360 decades
00:29:39.920 we have
00:29:40.920 radical
00:29:41.740 since the
00:29:42.240 start of time
00:29:43.080 the very concept
00:29:43.760 of law
00:29:44.200 punish the wrongdoer
00:29:45.800 literally the essence
00:29:47.440 of law
00:29:48.060 the very first
00:29:49.140 laws that were
00:29:49.780 ever written
00:29:50.480 are the same
00:29:51.500 as the ones
00:29:52.040 we've got now
00:29:52.760 exactly
00:29:54.020 but if you see
00:29:55.080 you see here
00:29:58.840 maybe this is
00:30:00.660 the wrong document
00:30:01.300 but I'll just
00:30:02.200 tell you the data
00:30:03.080 we have 88%
00:30:04.320 of Salvadorians
00:30:05.940 who feel
00:30:06.460 really well
00:30:07.420 walking
00:30:07.780 and safe
00:30:08.500 walking out
00:30:09.040 at night
00:30:09.420 people in Ecuador
00:30:10.500 don't
00:30:11.680 and this is
00:30:12.840 they feel
00:30:13.800 27% safe
00:30:15.160 and this is
00:30:15.840 a huge difference
00:30:17.060 very similar people
00:30:18.160 very similar culture
00:30:18.980 very similar climate
00:30:19.940 very similar environment
00:30:20.860 what's the difference
00:30:22.160 well
00:30:22.560 the leader
00:30:23.100 not only the leader
00:30:24.820 it's the
00:30:25.560 it's the
00:30:26.760 enforcement
00:30:27.820 of the law
00:30:28.500 not a secret
00:30:29.460 or something
00:30:29.860 here the suicide
00:30:30.700 the murder rates
00:30:32.200 the homicide rates
00:30:33.380 in El Salvador
00:30:34.080 in the last decade
00:30:35.560 we had 108
00:30:37.360 at some point
00:30:38.740 103
00:30:39.540 per 100,000 people
00:30:41.660 now
00:30:42.460 after Bukele
00:30:43.480 in
00:30:43.980 came
00:30:45.120 in 2019
00:30:46.100 it has dropped
00:30:47.080 down to 2.4
00:30:48.140 he literally
00:30:50.420 transformed
00:30:51.040 and
00:30:51.360 he literally
00:30:52.260 transformed
00:30:52.940 El Salvador
00:30:53.740 to one of the
00:30:54.580 safest places
00:30:55.260 and it's not
00:30:57.640 rocket science
00:30:58.300 how he did it
00:30:59.540 now
00:31:00.080 Millet is the
00:31:01.420 second person
00:31:02.120 Argentina
00:31:02.980 has suffered
00:31:03.880 from decades
00:31:04.680 of Peronism
00:31:05.500 decades
00:31:06.300 of inflation
00:31:07.100 decades
00:31:08.260 of high poverty
00:31:09.480 rate
00:31:09.800 he came in
00:31:10.720 he did actually
00:31:11.500 what is supposed
00:31:12.260 to work
00:31:12.700 just for anyone
00:31:13.440 who doesn't know
00:31:13.880 what Peronism is
00:31:14.760 communism
00:31:15.200 it's just
00:31:15.800 communists
00:31:16.500 it's just
00:31:16.960 statism
00:31:18.360 status policies
00:31:19.780 what happens
00:31:20.380 when a communist
00:31:20.860 takes over your country
00:31:21.660 is they use
00:31:22.100 the government
00:31:22.460 to immiserate
00:31:23.120 the entire population
00:31:24.040 exactly
00:31:24.620 and that's happened
00:31:25.520 across South America
00:31:26.280 for decades
00:31:26.900 it's happening here
00:31:27.640 now
00:31:27.960 it's happened
00:31:28.340 across Europe
00:31:28.840 it's just communism
00:31:30.140 and this
00:31:30.960 this is not rocket science
00:31:32.400 he tamed inflation
00:31:33.540 not rocket science
00:31:34.960 stop spending money
00:31:36.060 stop allowing the government
00:31:37.080 spend all your money
00:31:37.840 exactly
00:31:38.660 so
00:31:39.260 and his popularity
00:31:40.700 is actually a really good thing
00:31:42.500 now because
00:31:43.120 the policies
00:31:44.420 that he advocates
00:31:45.600 are policies
00:31:46.500 that frequently
00:31:47.160 in the short term
00:31:48.280 don't yield results
00:31:49.680 but actually
00:31:50.760 in this case
00:31:51.360 I think a lot
00:31:52.080 I hear a lot
00:31:52.860 of Argentinians
00:31:53.600 who are happy
00:31:54.060 I have a friend
00:31:55.420 who is Argentinian
00:31:56.420 he's told me
00:31:57.140 that he's ecstatic
00:31:57.960 because he finally
00:31:59.040 found a job
00:31:59.700 and he also
00:32:00.220 has someone
00:32:01.080 who feels
00:32:02.160 he is representing him
00:32:03.380 and what is most important
00:32:04.520 he says that there is
00:32:05.320 a cultural aspect
00:32:06.180 to it
00:32:06.600 there is what is called
00:32:08.040 in Argentina
00:32:08.820 the viveza creola mentality
00:32:10.360 which is basically
00:32:11.440 the mentality
00:32:11.980 that corruption
00:32:12.600 is all there is
00:32:13.460 and that there can be
00:32:14.840 nothing else
00:32:15.320 and he says
00:32:16.140 that Millet
00:32:16.540 is actually
00:32:17.040 leading the fight
00:32:17.940 against this
00:32:18.580 I love Millet's
00:32:19.740 kind of intense look
00:32:20.700 sorry can we go back
00:32:21.400 to it a sec
00:32:21.800 yes
00:32:22.180 he's got this
00:32:23.180 remarkable
00:32:23.940 intenseness
00:32:24.740 about him
00:32:25.400 I find very engaging
00:32:27.220 I love watching
00:32:28.280 I can never understand
00:32:29.080 what he's saying
00:32:29.460 obviously he's saying
00:32:30.000 in Spanish
00:32:30.440 but I just like
00:32:31.600 seeing the sort of
00:32:32.440 like
00:32:32.680 yeah yeah
00:32:33.880 but he's like a maniac
00:32:35.180 against state spending
00:32:37.800 and as someone
00:32:38.820 who's just recently
00:32:39.520 had to pay his taxes
00:32:40.420 my god
00:32:40.980 I feel that energy
00:32:42.220 he can actually
00:32:43.480 exercise elementary
00:32:44.720 reasoning skills
00:32:45.980 he says we have a goal
00:32:47.340 he's an economist
00:32:47.720 these are the
00:32:48.380 well there have been
00:32:49.820 other economists
00:32:50.600 I know
00:32:51.240 so these are
00:32:54.180 this is the goal
00:32:55.140 these are the means
00:32:56.140 we take the means
00:32:56.940 to the goal
00:32:57.460 and we're
00:32:59.380 on our way
00:33:00.500 to achieving the goal
00:33:01.380 now comes Trump
00:33:02.560 and I wouldn't
00:33:04.120 ever expect
00:33:05.140 that this was
00:33:05.900 going to be
00:33:06.360 something people
00:33:06.980 would cheer on
00:33:07.860 or something
00:33:08.400 that this
00:33:09.540 would be heard
00:33:10.620 that he just
00:33:11.580 signs an executive
00:33:12.480 to ban men
00:33:13.180 from competing
00:33:13.800 in women's sports
00:33:14.720 the whole signing
00:33:17.380 of this
00:33:17.740 was so wholesome
00:33:18.480 though
00:33:18.780 it was just
00:33:19.820 you know
00:33:20.140 Trump with all
00:33:20.760 these kids
00:33:21.260 all these young
00:33:21.760 girls
00:33:22.000 and he just
00:33:22.860 completely normally
00:33:23.600 he's like
00:33:24.220 grandfather Trump
00:33:25.260 handing out
00:33:26.040 the pens afterwards
00:33:26.820 you know
00:33:27.120 haven't you had
00:33:27.460 a good time
00:33:28.040 you know
00:33:28.300 look at that
00:33:29.020 in the best
00:33:29.580 signature
00:33:29.960 and it's just
00:33:30.660 like
00:33:30.840 there's something
00:33:31.720 very homely
00:33:32.560 and appealing
00:33:33.020 about it
00:33:33.420 it's like
00:33:33.800 when he was
00:33:34.080 at the McDonald's
00:33:34.780 and he's waving
00:33:35.220 out of their thing
00:33:35.900 it was just like
00:33:36.560 it's the grandpa
00:33:37.680 Trump
00:33:38.080 yeah grandpa
00:33:38.840 Trump
00:33:39.120 he's truly
00:33:39.760 moving to the
00:33:40.460 sort of patriarch
00:33:41.180 you know
00:33:42.120 caring patriarch
00:33:43.520 mold
00:33:43.980 and I really
00:33:44.680 approve of it
00:33:45.460 so now that we
00:33:46.580 have the trinity
00:33:47.320 it's developing
00:33:48.700 a kind of synergy
00:33:49.760 to an unprecedented
00:33:51.380 level
00:33:52.020 Millet now
00:33:53.140 is banning
00:33:54.720 sex change
00:33:56.420 surgeries
00:33:57.120 on mariners
00:33:58.640 in Argentina
00:33:59.360 you see the
00:34:00.180 virtues change
00:34:01.240 so
00:34:01.460 not very controversial
00:34:02.560 really
00:34:03.300 it's not
00:34:03.760 but that's the issue
00:34:04.680 with how
00:34:05.320 the left
00:34:06.260 has acted
00:34:08.440 in the last decades
00:34:09.420 because
00:34:09.700 if you're just
00:34:10.980 a raving lunatic
00:34:12.380 then whoever's
00:34:14.200 the other person
00:34:14.800 you're basically
00:34:15.400 handing them
00:34:16.000 easy wins
00:34:16.660 yeah
00:34:17.420 but also
00:34:18.200 the thing
00:34:19.700 with the left
00:34:20.120 it's the control
00:34:20.860 of discourse
00:34:21.580 and stigma
00:34:22.380 that has been
00:34:23.640 what has allowed
00:34:24.480 them to get
00:34:25.220 anywhere
00:34:25.640 in anything
00:34:26.400 the pure
00:34:27.340 negative
00:34:28.420 characterisation
00:34:29.200 of anyone
00:34:29.760 who might have
00:34:30.500 a differing opinion
00:34:31.140 has been a
00:34:31.700 really powerful
00:34:32.400 tool that we've
00:34:32.940 allowed them
00:34:33.400 to have
00:34:33.700 far too long
00:34:34.720 exactly
00:34:35.120 and I mean
00:34:36.020 Trump right now
00:34:36.940 has signed
00:34:37.220 several executive
00:34:38.520 orders that seem
00:34:39.440 to me to be
00:34:39.900 very commonsensical
00:34:40.960 for instance
00:34:41.620 the deportations
00:34:42.580 issue
00:34:42.960 there was no
00:34:44.500 issue
00:34:44.860 there was no
00:34:46.220 problem
00:34:46.660 nothing stopped
00:34:47.560 stopped him
00:34:48.500 he said okay
00:34:49.100 they're getting
00:34:49.620 deported
00:34:50.100 the president of
00:34:51.160 Colombia said
00:34:51.780 at some point
00:34:52.280 no
00:34:52.640 he tried
00:34:53.840 to put up
00:34:54.460 a fight
00:34:54.880 but at the
00:34:55.580 end
00:34:55.760 he accepted
00:34:56.980 there are
00:34:57.740 many of them
00:34:58.600 we've discussed
00:34:59.300 them
00:34:59.620 that's why
00:35:00.640 I'm putting
00:35:01.200 another one
00:35:01.720 that
00:35:01.840 it's like
00:35:02.300 it's ruinous
00:35:02.940 to send
00:35:03.260 these people
00:35:03.620 back to my
00:35:04.060 country
00:35:04.300 so we've
00:35:08.240 talked about
00:35:08.680 them a lot
00:35:09.180 on our
00:35:10.220 segments
00:35:10.600 that's why
00:35:11.040 I'm talking
00:35:11.640 about this
00:35:12.560 executive order
00:35:13.520 now
00:35:13.840 he signs
00:35:14.520 an executive
00:35:15.060 order to
00:35:15.680 resume the
00:35:16.200 process of
00:35:16.780 creating a
00:35:17.680 new national
00:35:18.320 park full of
00:35:19.060 statues of
00:35:20.000 the greatest
00:35:20.420 Americans who
00:35:21.120 ever lived
00:35:21.560 I think
00:35:22.320 that this
00:35:22.640 is again
00:35:23.340 a paradigm
00:35:23.920 shift
00:35:24.400 because it
00:35:25.620 might sound
00:35:26.320 weird to
00:35:26.860 people who
00:35:27.240 don't follow
00:35:27.720 politics
00:35:28.260 because they
00:35:29.300 may think
00:35:30.320 that yeah
00:35:30.800 obviously
00:35:31.280 politicians are
00:35:32.880 happy and
00:35:34.000 they support
00:35:35.200 great Americans
00:35:35.920 but no this
00:35:36.760 is a paradigm
00:35:37.460 shift because
00:35:38.520 it's a blow
00:35:40.020 to the narrative
00:35:40.780 of shaming
00:35:41.560 and this is
00:35:43.100 something that we
00:35:44.420 desperately need
00:35:45.440 here in Europe
00:35:46.120 because for
00:35:47.460 some reason
00:35:48.060 the Europeans
00:35:48.980 are just
00:35:49.860 having a
00:35:51.060 masochistic
00:35:51.900 fetish with
00:35:52.640 shaming and
00:35:53.820 historical shame
00:35:54.680 the West has
00:35:55.280 always dominated
00:35:56.340 when it has
00:35:56.920 been self
00:35:57.460 confident and
00:35:58.460 assertive and
00:35:59.680 it's known
00:36:00.420 what or who
00:36:01.600 it is and
00:36:02.580 it's when we've
00:36:03.160 been navel
00:36:03.640 gazing and
00:36:04.260 nihilistic and
00:36:05.060 wearing a
00:36:05.460 horsehair shirt
00:36:06.240 and self
00:36:06.960 flagellating that
00:36:08.140 we see the West
00:36:08.800 at its weakest
00:36:09.400 and being taken
00:36:11.160 for a ride by
00:36:12.800 Russia, China
00:36:14.240 who display all
00:36:15.640 those qualities
00:36:16.240 that we once did
00:36:17.080 about self
00:36:17.600 confidence and
00:36:18.700 assertiveness and
00:36:19.480 that's why he
00:36:20.320 announced this when
00:36:20.900 he was last
00:36:21.420 president and I
00:36:22.580 was so happy
00:36:23.120 about it because
00:36:23.520 it's a complete
00:36:24.080 slap in the face
00:36:24.980 to BLM all
00:36:26.340 those people
00:36:27.240 who are those
00:36:27.780 iconoclasts who
00:36:28.620 are tearing down
00:36:29.200 great heroes I
00:36:30.460 wish we had
00:36:30.900 something like that
00:36:31.540 here my only
00:36:32.400 slight because you
00:36:32.920 know Americans
00:36:34.080 hate monarchy but
00:36:35.320 the power of a
00:36:36.740 president with
00:36:37.160 executive orders is
00:36:38.480 greater than any
00:36:39.160 monarch of in
00:36:40.140 European you
00:36:41.060 history for the
00:36:41.540 last 200 years
00:36:42.580 my only thing is
00:36:44.000 executive orders are
00:36:44.780 so easy to repeal
00:36:45.700 by the next
00:36:46.220 incumbent and it's
00:36:48.120 fine to do it in
00:36:48.760 the short term I
00:36:49.900 just hope now that
00:36:50.680 Congress is
00:36:51.200 Republican there'll
00:36:52.280 be legislation to
00:36:53.180 actually ensure that
00:36:54.060 this stuff lasts more
00:36:54.980 than just four years
00:36:55.740 I absolutely agree
00:36:56.920 with you and I
00:36:57.660 think that this is
00:36:58.260 important especially
00:36:59.160 for the MAGA
00:37:00.000 triumphalists who
00:37:01.620 literally view Trump
00:37:03.620 right now as some
00:37:04.920 communists viewed
00:37:05.560 Castro because Castro
00:37:06.880 gave those speeches
00:37:07.680 he signed some
00:37:08.380 executives and they
00:37:09.540 thought okay he said
00:37:10.700 he's gonna bring
00:37:11.280 growth so growth
00:37:12.040 came no it hasn't
00:37:13.280 happened yet that's
00:37:13.960 why a lot of it's
00:37:15.700 it's beginning now
00:37:16.820 the changes need to be
00:37:18.500 cemented in legislation
00:37:19.640 exactly but it's a
00:37:21.260 good way to start the
00:37:22.320 fire to the fireplace you
00:37:23.940 need some kindling and
00:37:25.060 you need to it's only
00:37:26.220 been two weeks or
00:37:26.980 something exactly so
00:37:27.940 it's a strong start and
00:37:28.940 I think that it is a
00:37:30.040 good message that I'm
00:37:31.860 here to do business and
00:37:33.600 I'm here to form an
00:37:36.120 alliance with people who
00:37:37.360 mean business rather
00:37:38.820 than just want to
00:37:40.780 partake in lose-lose
00:37:42.600 situations as Musk said
00:37:44.200 he said we have one
00:37:45.040 chance to have this
00:37:45.960 revolution and it's now
00:37:47.260 if we don't do it now
00:37:48.280 it'll never happen and
00:37:49.340 so you do need to be an
00:37:50.400 immediate disruptor it is
00:37:51.800 shock and awe
00:37:52.480 I mean any any year of
00:37:55.560 leftist subversion is a
00:37:56.820 year too many and that's
00:37:59.140 good so I want to say
00:38:00.300 that here in Europe
00:38:01.940 I'm absolutely I find
00:38:04.620 European leadership
00:38:05.760 abominable we're not in
00:38:07.140 Europe you're not in
00:38:09.820 continental Europe yeah
00:38:11.760 or or not so is this a
00:38:13.840 lot mine now England is
00:38:15.400 something apart okay I've
00:38:17.560 long maintained England
00:38:18.880 and Europe cut off
00:38:20.100 okay that's precisely the
00:38:22.060 attitude I have okay I'm
00:38:23.640 gonna be diplomatic here is
00:38:26.040 England and the loss of
00:38:27.640 the world are you happy
00:38:28.480 with that formulation that's
00:38:30.040 fine right so I think in
00:38:31.460 England and and in
00:38:33.020 continental Europe people
00:38:34.660 view politics as
00:38:36.040 essentially the
00:38:36.660 micromanagement of
00:38:37.540 decline and they have
00:38:38.640 the exact opposite
00:38:39.720 approach to politics
00:38:41.480 than Trump Millet and
00:38:43.000 Bukele have there is
00:38:44.620 always an obstacle as if
00:38:47.760 actually being good for
00:38:49.640 your country and your
00:38:50.340 people violates the human
00:38:51.660 right of migrating to a
00:38:53.760 country and destroying it
00:38:54.800 or wanting it to be
00:38:55.980 destroyed that's so it's
00:38:58.980 it's not just cultural it's
00:39:00.620 also economical the EU is
00:39:03.660 just causing its own
00:39:05.640 brain drain by this is a
00:39:08.980 true turn of phrase to
00:39:10.280 the US innovates China
00:39:11.620 replicates and the EU
00:39:12.480 regulates yeah it reminds
00:39:14.080 me you know when in 1940
00:39:16.080 at the height of the war
00:39:17.140 when Britain was standing
00:39:18.260 alone and it looked like
00:39:19.500 all of Europe would fall
00:39:20.440 Churchill said one of his
00:39:21.500 speeches he looked forward
00:39:23.420 to the time when the new
00:39:24.540 world with all its power and
00:39:26.040 might steps forward to the
00:39:27.620 rescue and liberation of
00:39:28.660 the old and you've got
00:39:29.960 that triumvirate right in
00:39:31.220 Ecuador and El Salvador
00:39:33.160 Argentina and America who
00:39:35.160 could actually provide the
00:39:36.740 means of liberation
00:39:37.760 exactly so I'm tired of
00:39:39.860 socialism I'm whether it's
00:39:41.640 fast or slow I just don't
00:39:43.100 want it and I think that
00:39:44.520 Europe the message the
00:39:45.660 timescale wasn't the issue
00:39:46.820 yeah yeah no but the point
00:39:49.300 is that the message Europe
00:39:50.660 is sending to people is I
00:39:53.040 don't respect ambitious
00:39:54.220 people I don't respect the
00:39:55.900 profit motive so you're
00:39:57.620 going to have to be here
00:39:58.900 and just abide by my
00:40:00.940 regulations well notice
00:40:02.380 that the entire aspect of
00:40:04.340 the European Union is about
00:40:05.680 predictability and
00:40:07.100 certainty and the problem
00:40:08.540 that they have with what
00:40:10.580 you're suggesting is you are
00:40:12.800 literally offering them
00:40:14.120 unpredictability and
00:40:15.200 uncertainty things may
00:40:16.800 happen in the future that
00:40:17.680 you're not in control of so
00:40:18.920 of course they're intrinsically
00:40:20.920 against it exactly the
00:40:22.420 entire managerial frame is
00:40:23.600 designed to know precisely
00:40:25.840 what tomorrow is going to be
00:40:27.180 like and if you can not
00:40:29.380 guarantee that tomorrow will
00:40:30.420 be exactly like today they're
00:40:31.420 going to reject it out of
00:40:32.120 hand exactly and when you
00:40:34.120 have a leadership that says I
00:40:36.440 don't respect ambitious
00:40:37.660 people I don't respect people
00:40:39.460 who want to innovate and I
00:40:40.700 don't want to respect the
00:40:41.740 profit motive you have someone
00:40:43.160 across the pond like Trump
00:40:44.340 who's again signing an
00:40:46.000 executive order to profit from
00:40:48.260 their brain drain and he says
00:40:49.680 he's establishing an AI
00:40:51.440 innovation refugee status for
00:40:53.580 tech entrepreneurs and AI
00:40:55.120 researchers fleeing EU's
00:40:56.980 restrictive A laws we should
00:40:59.140 have been doing this this is
00:41:00.340 what we should have been doing
00:41:01.240 with Brexit exactly right so
00:41:03.660 what do we have here in
00:41:04.960 England we have a government
00:41:06.700 that is talking about non-crime
00:41:09.960 hate incidents I mean that's
00:41:13.420 not that's not the way to go
00:41:14.700 forward you would think no it's
00:41:18.880 not it's just not I it's
00:41:20.520 subjectively absolutely and yet
00:41:22.840 here we are with our non-crime
00:41:24.700 hate incidents as all the
00:41:26.060 brains go to the United States
00:41:27.940 we have also voices that say
00:41:30.200 well for pedophiles can't be
00:41:32.700 deported because it violates the
00:41:35.560 human rights of their family to
00:41:37.420 have them close to them or it
00:41:39.700 violates the the well-being of
00:41:42.380 them to have a close family life
00:41:44.380 so we have several the pedophile
00:41:47.120 needs unlimited access to
00:41:48.720 children is what they're saying
00:41:50.400 well they're saying that if the
00:41:52.000 pedophile gets deported the
00:41:53.580 family of the pedophile is going
00:41:55.160 to have a negative well-being
00:41:56.340 it's going to impact their
00:41:58.500 well-being I'm sure it'd be
00:41:59.400 perfectly fine to keep the
00:42:00.300 pedophile in the house with his
00:42:01.400 own children that didn't stomp
00:42:03.000 that this kind of rationale
00:42:04.480 didn't enter Trump's mind when he
00:42:06.440 was negotiating with Colombia and
00:42:08.600 with Haiti but for some reason
00:42:10.560 people here in Europe and the
00:42:14.340 England think we don't even
00:42:16.620 need to you know it's not even
00:42:17.460 about the ECHR you know we've had
00:42:19.020 14 years where we could have got
00:42:20.480 rid of the Human Rights Act and
00:42:22.080 the Equalities Act it was the
00:42:23.140 Human Rights Act of our of
00:42:24.540 Gordon Brown Tony Blair that tied
00:42:26.560 us into that exactly we have here
00:42:28.680 headlines like this migrant
00:42:30.320 shambles as unnamed judge let's
00:42:32.340 pedophile we cannot name to protect
00:42:34.620 his privacy stay in UK because
00:42:36.220 because panic Pakistan his family
00:42:38.760 might disapprove of him lasting
00:42:41.300 after barely pubescent girls so
00:42:43.040 there we have we have we have
00:42:46.560 political judges man we've got such
00:42:49.560 a problem with our judges the
00:42:50.900 problem is that they're allowed to
00:42:54.120 take risks with the safety of
00:42:56.560 European people yeah of the native
00:42:58.480 population of European countries
00:43:01.160 that they're not prepared to take
00:43:02.940 with convicted criminals because
00:43:05.980 this it's it's not an argument you
00:43:08.880 can't make that argument it's not a
00:43:10.480 sound argument thrash him then deport
00:43:12.800 him I mean it's really not very
00:43:14.280 complicated the other thing now we
00:43:15.400 see is people saying that they're
00:43:16.460 bisexual and rapists and others so
00:43:18.520 that can't be deported because I'm
00:43:19.880 bisexual exactly and all this is
00:43:21.880 contributing to actually the decline
00:43:24.460 of Europe so it's not a surprise if you
00:43:26.840 see politics as the micromanaging of
00:43:29.900 decline yeah you're gonna face decline
00:43:32.000 here we have the list of bombings in
00:43:35.040 Sweden it resembles a band's tour
00:43:38.580 schedule three literally one day yeah
00:43:41.840 different city it's 33 in in January I
00:43:46.360 don't know I thought that Sweden was
00:43:48.480 supposed to be the gem of Scandinavia
00:43:51.180 according to social Democrats who were
00:43:53.680 saying look at how these the all these
00:43:56.060 policies come into fruition rape and bomb
00:43:58.880 capital of the world by 2050 approximately
00:44:02.040 30 percent of the nation will be Muslim
00:44:03.800 according to the latest stats but don't
00:44:05.360 worry because diversity is our greatest
00:44:07.280 strength progress right progress you don't
00:44:09.840 understand here for some reason we have
00:44:13.840 Germany shooting the its own feet ah yes
00:44:17.620 economically speaking and energy speaking
00:44:20.560 look at the nuclear energy production of
00:44:24.340 its own it literally turned its back on its
00:44:26.860 nuclear program I know it's so but we're
00:44:29.280 getting into this in the next segment
00:44:30.460 actually it's just so ridiculous crime in
00:44:32.440 Germany in every kind of violent crime
00:44:35.380 is rising by at least 10 percent per year
00:44:37.840 we have the same pattern that follows
00:44:40.740 politicians that constantly make virtue
00:44:42.780 signaling remarks but actually end up
00:44:45.440 doing nothing and we have the green saying
00:44:47.320 well maybe we should ban knives maybe we
00:44:49.920 should ban we should ban men in women in
00:44:53.740 and carriage train carriages macro
00:44:56.620 management of decline we have men in
00:44:58.900 balaclavas in Belgium coming in and just
00:45:02.380 firing Kalashnikov AK-47s pardon me why why do
00:45:08.440 we have to live like this are these people
00:45:10.180 here and just Millet gives us the answer if
00:45:13.360 anyone is talking about this in Europe they
00:45:16.700 are immediately being branded as 20th century
00:45:20.520 mid mid 20th century Germans by their own
00:45:24.340 establishment so we have an establishment
00:45:26.680 that in the name of protecting our democracy
00:45:29.480 is actually promoting incredibly unpopular
00:45:32.160 agendas it's turning the back on its people
00:45:35.500 on the native population it's mostly composed of
00:45:39.180 unelected bureaucrats who are essentially saying
00:45:41.920 if you want common sense you're far right
00:45:44.900 I'm going to destroy you that's no way to go
00:45:48.080 forward I've just come to accept that I may
00:45:50.380 actually be far right by their standards
00:45:52.200 oh really I would never have thought that
00:45:55.040 yeah I know I just accept yeah so I actually
00:45:57.320 don't want rampaging foreign we've got we've
00:45:59.760 got at the new culture forum we've got
00:46:01.260 coming out on Sunday uh what our new
00:46:04.120 documentary heresies and I think it's the
00:46:05.740 most powerful thing we've ever done and it's
00:46:07.280 called Britain's silent rape explosion and
00:46:10.500 it actually goes into to why we've seen this
00:46:13.380 great cover-up of the ethnic identity of the
00:46:15.560 perpetrators of rape not just in Britain but
00:46:17.560 in Germany in Sweden and elsewhere and of course
00:46:20.780 it's being covered up because the the our elites
00:46:23.540 can't accept don't want us to find out that
00:46:25.900 they're the ones who've actually caused the
00:46:28.060 identity and because yeah and because the
00:46:30.320 commonsensical belief that the role of the
00:46:32.260 police is to actually protect the liberties of
00:46:34.860 the people is was rejected by someone who said
00:46:38.500 well I want DI I want I want several ethnic
00:46:42.680 positions disseminated across some population
00:46:45.880 some positions and the job of the police
00:46:48.520 suddenly didn't become to ensure you're not
00:46:51.800 considering the abilities of the criminal yeah
00:46:53.920 it's DI DI is not about doing the job is about
00:46:56.400 getting the job correct or as musk said DI is
00:47:00.520 DI exactly yeah so the the more we see people
00:47:04.100 like Trump Millet and Bukele the better I hope
00:47:07.160 they change the paradigm in over of this side
00:47:10.220 of the Atlantic as well well what's interesting
00:47:12.320 though is that we've seen a great wave to the
00:47:16.040 swerve to the right across the west so you've
00:47:18.540 seen the most conservative government in New
00:47:20.540 Zealand now elected you've seen Geert Wilders
00:47:23.160 get going into power of course we have we have
00:47:25.340 Maloney as well who was invited to the
00:47:27.020 inauguration obviously Orban is there the rise
00:47:30.380 of the AFD and Le Pen and so forth and if you
00:47:32.760 look at last year analysis was done and the
00:47:35.780 gap between the right-wing share of the vote
00:47:38.520 and the left-wing share of the vote is at its
00:47:40.100 wide distance 1990 the left haven't been this
00:47:43.360 unpopular since the Cold War it's 46% of the
00:47:46.460 west voted for the right versus 40 versus 30
00:47:50.440 something for the for the for the left yet
00:47:52.580 despite that all of the levers of power all of
00:47:55.880 the media all of the institutions are still
00:47:58.500 perpetuating this left-wing global perspective
00:48:01.320 although that that may change since Donald
00:48:03.900 Trump and Elon Musk have torn out the
00:48:06.200 financial nervous system of their entire
00:48:08.120 network it turns out the left-wing media was
00:48:10.960 astroturfed by the US government if you can
00:48:13.480 believe it yeah weirdly not popular and but
00:48:17.460 it is remarkable though that there's still
00:48:19.240 you know a third of the country will still
00:48:21.160 vote for a policy which is essentially I would
00:48:23.240 like to destroy the country is it like because
00:48:25.840 they're not even shy about saying these things
00:48:28.180 anymore right these are the people with whom
00:48:30.580 their sympathies lie every criminal every
00:48:33.280 foreigner every bureaucrat everyone who
00:48:36.260 wants to make you poor and less safe lies in
00:48:39.440 the scope and the compass of left-wing activism
00:48:41.740 so if I mean who are these people voting for
00:48:46.280 Labour I can only assume that very old people
00:48:49.560 who haven't got the memo yet or something like
00:48:51.220 that anyway Bald Eagle says if Malay rescued
00:48:54.660 reduced inflation by that much by cutting
00:48:57.600 government waste I'm excited to see how fast
00:48:59.220 US inflation drops when Musk and Doge are done
00:49:02.220 cutting our government well I mean everyone
00:49:04.180 is to be honest I mean honestly who isn't
00:49:06.840 enjoying watching it right who isn't having a
00:49:09.360 great time every morning I wake up on my phone
00:49:11.860 is my American friends going nuts they've done
00:49:14.400 this is what is it now you know it's actually
00:49:16.720 nice to get daily news is good we have to live
00:49:20.520 vicariously through the new world in the old
00:49:22.580 world you have to understand and question for
00:49:25.640 royal expert Rafe are there any remaining
00:49:27.940 provisions in our laws that would allow a
00:49:29.660 hypothetical future monarch on our side to
00:49:31.980 step in and stop the destruction of the UK
00:49:33.380 well as quick as I understand it I mean
00:49:36.060 technically he could right yeah there's
00:49:38.480 nothing stopping his majesty from essentially
00:49:40.580 dissolving parliament and removing the prime
00:49:43.020 minister but of course it would create a huge
00:49:44.900 constitutional crisis and would probably lead
00:49:47.420 to the end of the monarchy itself because
00:49:49.840 unfortunately the great mass of the population
00:49:51.560 don't see the great fundamental crisis that
00:49:54.960 this nation is in you know I'd be willing to
00:49:57.300 flip the coin on that I think that a patriotic
00:50:00.060 king would be able to bring people against
00:50:02.240 parliament at this point well yeah I would love
00:50:05.880 to think that I'm not quite certain I agree
00:50:07.840 with you I don't I don't think it's Charles but
00:50:11.540 is there a saying we'll cross the bridge when we get
00:50:14.380 there yes just okay we're saying we could get to
00:50:18.960 the bridge anyway let's let's move on because
00:50:21.840 Britain is finally getting some nuclear energy
00:50:24.800 finally I mean this in the face of the
00:50:30.100 ideological net zero climate nonsense as you
00:50:33.040 can see here from only a couple of days ago from
00:50:35.580 the right honourable Ed Miliband and his
00:50:37.380 department for energy security the government
00:50:40.400 has launched an expanded net zero council and
00:50:43.520 it's just pure fanaticism from Miliband I mean
00:50:46.220 look at the graphics right they tell you
00:50:47.840 everything you need to know we're gonna have
00:50:49.280 wind turbines and we're gonna have solar energy
00:50:51.420 it's like oh are we oh well it's re-industrializing
00:50:55.000 Britain what wind turbines solar panels that's
00:50:59.040 not that's not gonna work is it idiot uh and
00:51:01.740 it's just like his entire twitter feed is just
00:51:03.900 this kind of woke net zero nonsense right and
00:51:05.900 so it's like right I'm glad this guy's in
00:51:07.660 charge of our energy uh needs in the future here's
00:51:10.740 their path their plan green pills oh my god he's
00:51:14.860 I just so quick aside right green energy when
00:51:20.720 they say green energy and they say oh we need uh
00:51:23.780 wind turbines we need uh solar panels what
00:51:26.320 they're saying is we want communism right that's
00:51:28.100 what they're asking for is what they're saying is
00:51:29.960 anything that would be productive and actually
00:51:32.080 help our society grow and flourish we are going
00:51:34.700 to marginalize and put in the that's evil camp and
00:51:38.300 we're going to take everything that is actually
00:51:39.700 fundamentally quite unproductive and try and
00:51:41.900 force it on you and try and get you to accept a
00:51:44.480 lower standard of living and so I mean they
00:51:47.320 she's saying this uh we are accepting the
00:51:49.880 government's central role in steering the creation
00:51:51.380 of this new energy system setting expectations for
00:51:53.780 the 2030 capacities of key technologies at national
00:51:56.060 and regional level we have high ambition that
00:51:58.300 means 43 to 50 gigawatts of offshore wind
00:52:01.900 why 27 to 29 gigawatts of onshore wind oh brilliant
00:52:07.080 that's going to look amazing thank you so much
00:52:09.060 and 45 to 47 gigawatts of solar power
00:52:13.120 we're in england what are you thinking
00:52:17.400 you are I'm going to go through this exactly the
00:52:20.940 numbers as well because this is crazy right
00:52:22.640 and so they're doing this to significantly reduce our fossil
00:52:25.480 fuel dependency because Ed Miliband is going to save
00:52:28.680 the world from total destruction in a cataclysmic
00:52:32.040 firestorm of global warming it's Ed Miliband he's going
00:52:35.240 to be the guy so you're not the guy Ed you're a moron
00:52:38.460 right and so they're going to spend 40 billion on
00:52:41.500 average per year between 2025 and 2030 because we're
00:52:45.460 just so flush for cash at the moment you see money
00:52:48.400 falling out of our pockets and so why not just say oh
00:52:51.840 there's a 20 billion black hole yes and that's why
00:52:53.660 we're going to spend 40 billion on this alone a year
00:52:56.260 for the next five years and so I mean why would we even glance
00:53:00.340 at solar power why would we this is the number of annual
00:53:03.340 sunshine hours a year obviously annual because this is
00:53:07.460 that Britain gets I can't open notes that Russia gets more
00:53:11.760 sunshine hours than we do right it is sunnier in Russia than
00:53:16.260 it is in England why would you ever mention solar power in
00:53:20.660 this country and the answer is of course because you're
00:53:22.600 ideologically captured right because someone in California
00:53:25.140 as you can see lots of sunshine hours in California
00:53:28.240 someone in California was like hey it's going to be a very
00:53:30.840 progressive thing to have solar power and that will be very good
00:53:33.460 for the environment and it will be progressive and friendly and
00:53:36.440 and blah blah blah blah and so Ed Miliband who's obviously been
00:53:40.040 programmed by Twitter has gone yeah good point we'll do the
00:53:43.280 same not thinking about how ideologies are any relevant in the time and
00:53:46.940 places where they emerge because they are actually concretely attached to
00:53:50.680 the circumstances the physical circumstances of the people who come
00:53:53.300 up with them and so if you're in Britain and someone says solar panel
00:53:57.320 power you know you are speaking to a retard to someone who has no brains
00:54:01.880 and doesn't know what they're talking about because I mean it's not it's
00:54:05.360 not even close it's just not even close this is from the American
00:54:08.620 energy departments uh thing and they've uh they've just got a nice
00:54:13.420 little graph here so what's the most productive form of energy oh it turns
00:54:17.880 out that it's nuclear by a mile it's five four times more productive than
00:54:22.940 solar it's three times more productive than wind because believe it or not at
00:54:26.400 some points the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow but at all
00:54:30.760 times the nuclear turbine is constantly producing energy and producing
00:54:35.440 steam to run a turbine it's all heated water okay everything all energy
00:54:38.800 production is just heated water um but the the point being it's just not
00:54:43.120 there's no discussion to be had it's completely unscientific to say
00:54:47.000 oh we need solar and wind no you're an ideologue you are someone who has been
00:54:51.460 programmed via twitter with a californian ideology that is
00:54:55.880 fundamentally anti-human because the real reason they don't go for nuclear and
00:54:59.340 this has been a long contention i've had
00:55:00.760 is that nuclear power would mean that the concerns about radical restructuring of
00:55:06.160 our society will go away there's no revolution in nuclear power how can they
00:55:10.580 tear down capitalism with nuclear power nuclear power is going to keep
00:55:13.840 capitalism going until the sun burns out i think that's really their problem any
00:55:19.440 thoughts at this junction before i continue ranting and raving i think
00:55:22.580 nuclear power is the way that's no no contest and the the only danger is that
00:55:31.080 someone will get uh be a di higher inside it that's the only issue i have with
00:55:36.540 nuclear power and that's entirely our own fault if that happens yeah it's not
00:55:41.320 exactly that it hasn't happened widely i mean your point about capitalism
00:55:46.500 interesting because of course france is arguably more left-wing than we are
00:55:50.340 though and they've managed to actually ensure that they that they are the most
00:55:54.220 independent energy independent nation in in europe and you know i think there are
00:55:58.840 56 nuclear reactors in france there are only nine in great britain and we are and
00:56:05.020 just as we invented the railways we are home to the world's first nuclear uh power
00:56:10.840 station or cardwell hall was it or whatever it was called and it just shows you how
00:56:14.920 we've lost that ambition we've lost all of that i often used to say you know when
00:56:18.680 did the greek stop being greek and now we can say when did the british stop being
00:56:22.040 british that great industrious nation and you just have to look at the short termism here
00:56:26.340 also because it was what it was over a decade ago that nick clegg famously said
00:56:30.340 we're not going to build any nuclear power plants it'll take 10 years take 10 years well that would
00:56:35.260 have avoided the entire energy spike that we've seen and that just goes to show you the thinking
00:56:40.220 that actually is in the minds of our leaders the irony the again i intended to be here 10 years
00:56:47.480 later i was here 10 years later nick you know and you know what and even if it wasn't for me even
00:56:51.760 if i somehow died i'd like my children and future generations to have it too like again it it's it's
00:56:57.400 not even a conversation that needs to be had the fact that we have ever entertained the solar and
00:57:03.180 wind lobbies is just preposterous and so the the only thing they have to fall back on is well it
00:57:08.960 sounds scary well the craziest one of all was angela merkel you'll remember in 2016 after the
00:57:14.640 fukushima tsunami she said well because of the tsunami we're going to close on everything that
00:57:19.540 remains in germany which is well known for its plague of tsunamis that descend on it every summer
00:57:25.940 constant constant problem but then they had to go back to coal power plants which would become
00:57:32.900 dependent on russia which both worked out just perfectly both from an environmental perspective
00:57:37.100 if you're really concerned about the global warming of the earth well you've gone back to your coal power
00:57:42.540 plants and you've made yourself dependent on russia who now you you allowed to essentially cripple you
00:57:48.120 when they invaded ukraine so brilliant and do you remember uh trump getting laughed at as well
00:57:52.540 they they laughed in his face when he said why are you making yourselves energy dependent on russia
00:57:57.640 stupid trump yeah who gets the last laugh anyway so let's talk about safety then because the last
00:58:03.280 and most honestly the weakest argument that they come to is well it's it's not safe it's not safe
00:58:08.980 no actually it is it is the the nearly the most safe so every uh every death from accidents and
00:58:17.480 pollution that have come from say coal is 24 deaths per 100 150 000 people with nuclear energy it's 0.03
00:58:25.200 deaths and with solar it's 0.02 deaths so not exactly dangerous and as you can see nuclear energy
00:58:33.020 produces less greenhouse gas emissions so look there's just no argument anyone who mentions solar
00:58:39.160 or wind just wrong on everything they've got no argument and they're trying to fear monger you
00:58:45.000 and there's just no reason not to do it how does one die from solar power is that one of the panels
00:58:50.180 hits you on the head manufacturing i assume or something like that yeah um but again it's it's one of
00:58:56.680 those persistent things that essentially nuclear power deniers have been saying and so the the question is
00:59:02.600 well do we have a good example of a country that actually decided to take up the nuclear baton
00:59:05.860 as rafe has already foreshadowed yes it's france france is doing amazingly with nuclear power and
00:59:11.680 it's genuinely and i'm kind of annoyed they're mogging us on this right they get to lord it over
00:59:18.660 us and say no you stupid anglos are doing the stupid german thing and we the the the brilliant and
00:59:26.200 incredibly lazy french get to indulge our laziness because of our cheap energy generation no i'm pro
00:59:32.160 nuclear for xenophobic reasons okay we need to get one over the french like france gets 70 percent of
00:59:40.120 its energy from nuclear energy right because they've had this long-standing thing and in 2014 when the
00:59:45.580 sort of uh green wave was coming france got it too and they planned to reduce it to only 50 percent
00:59:51.260 and that got scrapped because everyone's okay that's obviously stupid why are we doing that
00:59:54.820 and that worked out really really well for them and so they are a net exporter of electricity at this
01:00:00.500 point and that they export their energy they make three billion euros a year exporting their energy
01:00:06.740 because their energy costs are so abundant and their energy is so their energy costs so low that
01:00:10.940 they can sell it to the germans who are so stupid and block-headed about this subject they have
01:00:16.780 arrived at the point where they're now dependent on the french rather than the russians like what are
01:00:20.960 you doing what are you doing no one needs to be energy dependent on anyone actually at this point
01:00:25.320 and whilst france was building some of its new uh power stations remember gordon brown was
01:00:29.700 closing down our gas storage facilities as well making our energy security even worse
01:00:34.980 it's pure left-wing ideology that is against nuclear power right from a from a normal person's
01:00:40.680 perspective from a scientific perspective it is only nuclear that is the only game in town right
01:00:45.340 and if you think where are we going to get the uranium australia actually australia has
01:00:49.720 i think some of the second or third largest reserves of uranium so and canada does as well
01:00:54.480 there's massive reserves so we don't need to rely on russia for this we're completely dependent on
01:00:59.140 other anglosphere countries nations we can be guaranteed that are going to have a safe and
01:01:03.180 prosperous and welcoming relationship with us we will enrich them they will enrich us we all prosper
01:01:08.140 foreign powers who hate us fail and everyone wins like literally everyone wins there's no argument
01:01:15.500 against this i'm sick of hearing and so as you said britain only has nine nuclear power stations
01:01:20.600 france has yeah 56 and they're building a bunch more or they were building six more just because why
01:01:26.420 not if they're making you money why not you know again like it's actually a growth industry for the
01:01:30.680 french and they've got the most advanced technology these are that and what this does is produce only
01:01:36.000 15 of our nuclear of our energy production which is 6.5 gigawatts so for some reason we're going to
01:01:43.280 spend 40 billion a year producing ineffective inefficient like unreliable solar and wind or
01:01:52.100 we could spend only and in fact spoiler alert to build new power plants would cost between two and
01:01:58.780 three billion so we could literally build 20 new nuclear power plants a year the money they're going
01:02:04.220 to spend it's important to note that the new the new small nuclear reactors are much less expensive
01:02:09.980 much larger indeed uh so they're much easier to create and build yep the the um excuse me the
01:02:16.900 rolls-royce modular nuclear reactors again innovation taking place in britain for some reason this wasn't
01:02:23.380 all over the news and the governments weren't all banging the drum on this uh yeah each one costs
01:02:28.080 between two to three billion to make i'm going to spend 40 billion a year on it anyway why not spend
01:02:32.800 40 billion a year on this the only uh objection i have is the shape of the building that they're
01:02:38.140 proposing uh gothic please let's have it in gothic style um but yeah this is a completely feasible
01:02:45.560 thing to do there's absolutely no reason to do it uh not to do it and finally absolutely finally
01:02:52.920 keir starmer has been forced essentially to come out and go yeah look things in britain are so bad
01:02:58.400 even the labor government are like yeah we're gonna we're gonna start building some nuclear
01:03:02.000 nuclear energy uh we hate to do it because that means that the revolution isn't coming
01:03:06.480 obviously keir starmer lifelong leftist doesn't want this to happen but he has to make it happen
01:03:12.360 one thing that i find quite interesting as well this this became a bit mimetic so i don't know
01:03:17.000 whether you can see here these two cans represent all of the waste that all of the nuclear reactors
01:03:22.700 in britain have ever produced so not much really that's amazing and a lot of people like most of
01:03:29.880 the waste standing either side of the can yes as opposed to those two uh and a lot of people like
01:03:35.320 hmm do i drink the forbidden can um probably not it will literally rot your jaw off um but yeah so
01:03:43.640 anyway uh yeah oddly tempted to know what it tastes like can't can't be good can't be good but so
01:03:50.400 anyway yeah so as we found out recently uh keir starmer has actually finally capitulated on this
01:03:56.060 he's like yeah okay we'll we'll build nuclear if people have to live in britain then we will do it
01:04:02.500 um basically they're going to remove regulations and any uh objections that people have legally
01:04:09.740 and again it's more reason to loathe the tories because they were in power for 14 years they had
01:04:14.260 you know tories are notoriously nimbyist always thinking about it we can't have any power stations here or
01:04:19.880 there we've got the world's most expensive electricity or europe's expensive electricity
01:04:24.220 clear plan here we're giving 18 billion to the chagos islands how many of these smrs could we build
01:04:29.640 without you know uh well literally nine of them we actually have the numbers we could and i forgot to
01:04:35.920 bring up for this but um in in 2022 i think it was the tories commissioned a study to find out well
01:04:42.020 how many would we have to build and it turns out we would have to build six full-size nuclear reactors
01:04:46.700 to power every home in the country right and that would cost about 45 billion something like that
01:04:52.520 is that okay but that that would be worth it like if they were like okay no we're going to build just
01:04:56.540 you know one in each region of the country then essentially i mean you could literally you could
01:05:02.120 have you could run over labor saying look these are going to be government owned so they'll be
01:05:05.760 taxpayer funded and that means you'll never pay an energy bill again in your life right imagine the
01:05:11.200 god that would be incredible could have done it they could have done anything and it's left to
01:05:16.120 essentially being forced into this position because of how bad things are getting in this
01:05:19.600 country to say okay yeah look we're gonna have to go nuclear because loony bloody ed's plan on solar
01:05:25.600 and wind that's not going to last so we're gonna have to do something else otherwise we're all going
01:05:29.820 to go hungry and cold um so yeah basically finally finally some positive news in britain right
01:05:36.380 actually we might not be impoverished just paying for the heating bill during the winter
01:05:41.460 my god how long does it take to build one of these uh not that long either actually um i don't think i
01:05:47.200 have it to hand um but not that long so it could be within a couple of years and we actually see
01:05:54.060 dividends being paid on this um who knows god only knows let's please look because these aren't going
01:06:00.040 to be the full-size ones that the conservatives when they were like oh it'll take 10 years
01:06:02.800 yeah the rolls royce's modular nuclear ones are basically i think i can't remember off the top of my head
01:06:07.940 but it's not 10 years so it could be within a few years we actually get some bonuses and benefits and
01:06:13.000 something good happens in britain for once even under a labor government
01:06:17.800 matt says uh gen 4 nuclear plants can run on nuclear waste of old plants and take half-life from
01:06:23.800 centuries to decades yeah one one thing i didn't point out is that um nearly a fifth of france's
01:06:28.380 nuclear energy is from recycled nuclear waste actually so and that's a process that's getting better and
01:06:34.600 better and better as the iterations of the technology continue so again it's just there's no
01:06:39.320 downside to this uh weirdly they're not going to be run by soviet bureaucrats probably um sigil stone
01:06:47.940 says uh it's been openly admitted multiple times by the left themselves they hate nuclear because it
01:06:51.820 will provide cheap clean energy and won't bring about the global communist revolution yeah that's
01:06:55.720 exactly what it is um do we have video comments today
01:07:00.280 right okay uh charles says oh good rafe he's a jolly fellow and a bmx champ not many people know
01:07:07.600 that you're a bmx champ are you apparently so what is that oh uh the bmx is uh bikes and
01:07:15.500 you know the dirt bikes my last time on a bicycle was when i was 16 years old so perhaps not
01:07:20.440 uh charles i don't appreciate that fake news thank you very much about our guest
01:07:25.280 uh nick taylor says reform looked like containment also unfortunately yes well this is unfortunately one
01:07:34.620 of the downsides to reform is that it is entirely possible uh what people call containment which
01:07:40.700 is essentially uh keeping the blairite project on its rails what do you think about that well
01:07:48.480 maybe yeah better than the tories and labor though isn't it uh henry says uh the vote uh labor vote
01:07:56.600 was a vote of apathy uh the right wing disappeared or flipped reform and the centrist tory wets like
01:08:01.080 roy stewart started to tilt lib dem well no we don't know they didn't vote green uh lib have you seen
01:08:06.980 rory stewart making a public prat of himself recently recently every single time he tweets yeah yeah
01:08:12.460 getting demolished by jd vance and then giving a 110 iq response to this
01:08:18.080 i don't know why anyone listens to the guys and it's not just calling you know kamala harris the
01:08:22.720 winner you remember during when he was running to become prime minister he was very confident he was
01:08:26.680 very confident she was going to win but it's not just that when he was running to become prime
01:08:30.320 minister he's he said famously the eu will never reopen the withdrawal agreement three weeks later the
01:08:36.380 eu opened the withdrawal agreement for boris you know has he ever made a prediction that did come
01:08:40.920 true he's going to be like the uh the guy who predicts the stock markets that now people just run
01:08:45.640 an anti-him tracker uh the anti-kramer tracker or something you know it just goes to show you what
01:08:51.040 an euteronian education can do for self-confidence you know yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it certainly
01:08:56.180 it certainly does do that george says the government is the most powerful institution in most countries
01:09:01.260 they can do whatever they want because they have a monopoly of violence what governments are lacking is
01:09:05.240 will and care for the citizens uh yes but on the plus side the power of selection is still in our
01:09:12.380 hands so we don't have to choose labor or the conservatives we could i mean like you can say
01:09:17.640 a lot of things about nigel farage but one thing that i think is to his credit is that he obviously
01:09:21.360 doesn't hate britain right he's obviously not a hater of britain obviously likes the mythology of
01:09:26.480 britain and loves the country so as wet as he might end up being he's at least not hostile
01:09:32.840 which is a step up but you say we have the right of selection but the fact is you know only 20 percent
01:09:39.620 of the nation actually has for example a twitter account an x account and most of those don't
01:09:44.220 actually look at politics most people still consume the legacy media and until we smash that
01:09:49.320 people actually will continue to believe that he's far right and that there are no underlying causes
01:09:54.900 behind the rise of reform immigration or whatever it is we need to sort of break through that if we're
01:09:59.000 going to have any hope of really having a power to select the next government that is true that is
01:10:03.700 true so basically make sure that all of your friends and family use alternative media send them this
01:10:07.340 podcast uh peter says uh it's more likely that germany keir starmer will attempt to simply ban the
01:10:14.020 reform party now they're not they're not going to do that um the the precedent would be too outrageous
01:10:20.400 nigel farage is too much of a mainstream figure everyone knows who he is uh and i mean banning like
01:10:26.140 even quite radical parties is a bit contentious i don't really like the idea of the current ruling party
01:10:31.480 being able to tell me that that party's out of bounds even if that party is a nutty party i've never
01:10:37.020 vote for uh i don't i don't like the option not impossible to see some reform mps getting
01:10:42.380 non-crime hate incidents though i imagine a lot of pressure being put on them by on the police by
01:10:47.820 the labor government if they're getting worried you know yeah i don't doubt the rupert lowe's got a
01:10:52.100 list of non-crime hate incidents on his record um but that's why he's my favorite reform mp uh russian
01:10:58.420 says uh fantastic first segment i'll do my best to uh up the network of reform folks i'm friends with
01:11:03.660 so it reaches the right people well thank you very much uh henry says uh for me the tory party
01:11:07.880 has a very upper middle class attitude to issues whereas reform strikes me as more every man lower
01:11:13.000 to working middle class version of the world i wonder if that's why the southwest hasn't gone for
01:11:17.280 reform because it's seen as grubby somehow tories don't live in rough communities full of knife
01:11:21.640 crime nor do they get letters from the children's schools saying don't travel alone everything like
01:11:25.960 that is an abstract issue to the tory mp whereas it's daily life for a reform voter yeah there's
01:11:30.400 definitely um i don't want to say stigma because it's not quite the right um well that there's an
01:11:38.760 idea that the the platforms that appeal to reform voters are low status issues and there's a huge
01:11:46.240 amount of snobbery there uh but of course the reality is actually if you look at the reform leader i mean
01:11:51.440 it's an accurate view to make about the reform voters maybe but if you look at the reform leadership
01:11:57.060 they all look like old tories right and they're all they're all millionaire businessmen you know
01:12:01.940 alan bastard's from the new statesman if you remember that old comedy with rick mail uh and i think
01:12:06.560 actually that's part of a problem actually for a lot of people can't relate to the leadership of
01:12:10.420 their own party um even ben habib who was much more in tune with the voters he understood their cause
01:12:15.720 also another pride public school educated millionaire but the this this is the um the interesting thing
01:12:22.100 about the the southwestern the lib dems in the southwest because the southwest isn't anti-capitalist
01:12:27.400 as it were you know i can understand why in the north you would have this kind of sneaking suspicion
01:12:32.680 about the southern capitalist and understandably so but in the southwest we're not like that um and
01:12:38.560 in fact i think that that could be leveraged if it can be done in a genteel enough way um we are
01:12:44.800 quite snobby unfortunately and sensitive um very disappointing frankly uh i'm not going to read
01:12:52.800 out that name but uh it's entirely possible that labor the lib dems the greens and the smp form a
01:12:57.160 coalition together they're already very ideologically close the threat of a reform government could be
01:13:01.360 enough to get them together well i mean that is a potential danger on the horizon but i actually
01:13:07.540 think the zia yusuf is right i think they're going to form a majority i think they could get 350 400
01:13:12.260 seats it's really not beyond the realms possibility and they're they again we're only six months into
01:13:18.480 the labor government i mean imagine when two years in of kia starmer screwing the country relentlessly
01:13:24.020 every goddamn day and then coming out every time there's a terror attack essentially saying shut up
01:13:28.700 far right like sorry kia we all hate you already um good to see rafe back in swindon was nice to see
01:13:36.100 you at the united kingdom rally in the sweltering heat last year cheers for walking the crowd after it was a
01:13:41.000 pleasure it was great i didn't realize you were there yes no no i was that that was the day that
01:13:45.580 tommy robinson played his videos of the crowd you were on stage that day but i walked around i thought
01:13:51.020 it was important you know to engage with people there well one thing that uh david starkey made
01:13:55.780 a great observation about it was like um when when it's mostly men it's the football lads out doing
01:14:02.140 something trivial it's not very important but when their wives come out with them then you can tell
01:14:06.840 there's a real issue brewing and that was one of the things that really struck me is
01:14:11.320 the crowd was about half women it was very very gender balanced and so it was like okay
01:14:17.100 i think starkey's dictum there is correct there's a real problem that these people are responding to
01:14:21.880 which is why i take part in them you know i i agree it is a real problem everything's a real problem
01:14:27.000 um hector says love having rafe on the show his levity and wit is always welcome
01:14:31.560 thank you uh fuzzy toaster says the political class is unfit for purpose they need to learn to code
01:14:37.180 warlord wu tutai says rafe's point about japan unfortunately they have recently caved on
01:14:41.500 immigration and started to allow it it's only a matter of time until the first truck of peace
01:14:45.600 now i often hear this and also people in poland tell me well we're also going the same way
01:14:49.860 i mean this is all about scale yes they do have more immigration but we're talking about a very
01:14:54.800 different uh factor compared to what we've experienced in the west i mean as i said to you for example just
01:14:59.440 looking at the polish thing by 2050 20 percent of this country will be muslim 30 percent of sweden
01:15:04.880 in poland's will be 0.2 percent well the the the concern though is that the foot's in the door now
01:15:11.820 right and so a left-wing politician will say look we already do this i'm just going to double it and
01:15:16.500 double it japan is so homogenous they've got such a strong sense of their own culture and identity and
01:15:20.880 as i say once ai and robotics the main thing in japan as in here is who's going to look after our
01:15:26.060 elderly health care social care increasingly now that can be done by robots and automation
01:15:31.060 and with ai so i think that the uh you know it's a 20 30 year project to change a nation demographically
01:15:37.620 by that point i think the solutions will be there i do hope so but again like everything you're saying
01:15:42.720 could have been said about britain 50 years ago yeah but japan has a very different notion of self
01:15:47.740 and it is it is based it's it's a it's a racial concept of the nation well fingers crossed that
01:15:53.880 they they don't go down the road that we've gone down uh kevin says kemi is the tory's version of
01:15:58.920 kamala if they seriously wanted to win they'd choose someone who'd ruffle the feathers amongst the old
01:16:02.840 tory sweats uh to be honest with you i thought they should have gone for gemrick um obviously uh but
01:16:08.300 mostly gemrick the thing is though gemrick isn't charismatic and one one one thing that um
01:16:17.060 you realize after covering politics for long enough it's really just about likability
01:16:21.800 kemi is not likable if she was a very charming person who people just liked being around it
01:16:28.020 wouldn't matter that she was african that wouldn't matter at all and i suppose you could say that
01:16:32.060 actually maybe it's better to have kemi there because it just shortens the period of pain before
01:16:35.940 we only have one right-wing party yes if gemrick was there maybe we've probably prolonged for a
01:16:39.960 decade or so this might hasten the tory's death yeah no absolutely i mean gemrick went quite far
01:16:45.840 out of bounds in some ways as well saying we need to talk about english identity and things like that
01:16:49.980 i mean these are genuine things that need to be spoken about absolutely i think it's a yeah i mean
01:16:53.820 it's a pity he didn't say it years ago but i'm always inclined to believe people can have
01:16:57.820 damascene conversion some people think it's an act but i think it's genuine on his part
01:17:01.340 yeah i agree i think it was genuine as well um but i totally agree with you uh i'd rather he lost
01:17:07.600 and the tories just die off uh jimbo says the bbc are currently running a puff piece about how scared
01:17:13.120 sweden swedish immigrants are in light of that horrific shooting ah yes the real victims of
01:17:18.240 immigrant violence maybe they should stop shooting each other then the immigrants yes uh next time
01:17:22.980 there's an islamic atrocity i'm sure they'll be platforming the natives expressing concern about
01:17:26.320 muslims decimating europe uh well they could have done that for years now couldn't they
01:17:30.340 lord nerevar says i work in a libtardy environment and even my colleagues admit that trump is seriously
01:17:36.600 impressive in the way he conducts his government they hate his guts but they know what he is yeah
01:17:41.840 just as with thatcher you know admire her without loving her yeah you have to respect this
01:17:47.940 yeah and uh this was the main otherwise yeah you're just a tiktok activist yeah but this this is the
01:17:54.580 main concern that people had during his first tenure we didn't do anything okay well he's doing
01:17:58.260 it all now so uh kevin says uh how to improve the british police all dei hires hand in their hats
01:18:04.540 and batons and clear off you kevin you're showing your age there you think they've got hats and
01:18:09.760 batons they don't have high vis vests my friend uh no degree required to join the police and gain
01:18:15.940 promotion only male officers over six foot female officers over five for eight allowed such a wet um
01:18:22.180 all officers must pass the rigs at rigorous physical and medical examination application
01:18:26.220 and annually thereafter offer service in the police as an option for ex-military personnel
01:18:30.040 as a form of reserve service i mean that would definitely go a long way to to improving the
01:18:34.000 situation yeah but there should no women in uh frontline roles there should no women patrolling
01:18:38.520 the streets also no no one that looks like me should be patrolling the streets either you know do
01:18:43.260 admin roles report when someone's child has died or whatever but too many scenes of people
01:18:48.000 trying to apprehend a criminal who just laughs at them and runs off you know bring back the
01:18:52.660 constabulary uh omar says i absolutely do not trust faraj while he remains net zero level
01:18:58.620 soft on soft soft on immigration but the real politique of the situation is that you can say
01:19:03.560 nothing four years and coast to victory in a uni party fatigue alone being funded by zia yusuf
01:19:08.120 doesn't bode well for our chances you'll disenfranchise let alone oust foreign voting blocs
01:19:12.980 um yeah like i don't think reform represent uh the sort of um radical change that people are
01:19:20.120 looking for on the right but i do think there's better than nothing so better than having another
01:19:26.700 four or five years of labor and tories right so and who knows you know maybe trump will put a bit
01:19:32.060 pressure on him and say look just get on with it you know sort things out get on with it yeah
01:19:38.160 exactly um apparently yeah yeah yeah yeah again like i can't believe how kia starmer is constantly
01:19:46.780 dropping the ball like trump came out and said yeah i'm going to tariff you up i'm not going to
01:19:49.800 tariff britain though i like britain what are you doing kia get on the blur be like donald can i take
01:19:55.000 you up for a mcdonald's you know and he'll he'll go for it like chum again i kiss time it looks like a
01:20:01.200 shark doesn't he he's got the dead eyes of shark like he's got no emotive nature to him he's got
01:20:08.300 no personality it's hard to know what his wife loves about him right like normally you can identify
01:20:13.940 why a woman would be into a guy like that but you're like he's like a robot um anyway michael
01:20:19.500 says i spent 30 years working with emergency management around nuclear power plants uh the
01:20:23.560 output on these small uh footprint plants is just astronomical literally two gigawatts of
01:20:29.060 electricity from one reactor now we're discussing micro reactors small modular reactors that could
01:20:33.520 literally power entire towns off one reactor creating home grids in small town cities yeah
01:20:37.780 that's uh something i didn't get into is that the um the the modular reactors are something like 500
01:20:42.260 gigawatts of energy which is enough i mean literally it's one large town would just get one
01:20:47.200 plant and then you've got a network of plants that are kind of independent from one another so if
01:20:53.020 one goes out well then it's only one town that loses energy and you just replace it quickly
01:20:57.240 uh it's again what you would do if you wanted the country to succeed but of course the green
01:21:01.780 lobby hates us they want us to die so that's why they're against it uh jimbo says nothing has
01:21:07.640 hurt the perception of nuclear power more than the simpsons um yes and no i feel the simpsons
01:21:13.860 kind of domesticated the idea of nuclear power plants i think it's the three-eyed fish he's talking about
01:21:18.580 yeah so yeah yes and no but um yeah the the again this is uh it's a long-running bugbear of mine that
01:21:28.640 we even have this conversation about power generation the answer's been solved uh baron
01:21:32.680 from warhawk says i heard something similar from leftists on my college campus they were saying
01:21:36.520 mining on the moon and mars is immoral because it would just destroy the environment and ruin
01:21:41.180 these places natural beauty the natural beauty of mars i mean it is beautiful but there's enough space
01:21:50.860 you know i i i think this is overhyped i think mars is ugly it's it's just a desert a waste i disagree
01:21:58.240 yeah i know yeah there's there's nothing there there's no it's just rock and dust go to the grand canyon
01:22:04.900 if you want yeah uh henry says energies is one of the area energy is one of the areas of science i
01:22:12.220 find most infuriating it has been polluted by the political concept of the science as if it is some
01:22:18.220 fixed eternal outcome that can never be questioned never be reinterpreted and never invalidated someone
01:22:23.400 decided that the green solutions were best but metrics like cost per kilowatt hour the initial carbon
01:22:28.760 overhead of manufacturing and maintaining the infrastructure or how things are decommissioned at
01:22:32.700 the end of their life plus for things like vehicles battery tech is unfit for use in a lot of sectors
01:22:36.480 you can't replace 747 with an electric plane or way too much for example solar panels take up a lot of
01:22:41.420 space and use rare materials that are required to pay a tithe to china and basically end up in a landfill
01:22:46.000 when we're done with them onshore wind turbines kill a lot of wildlife for the yeah have you seen those
01:22:50.580 like birds with their wings chopped off and it's it's like oh this was an eagle i hate it it just really
01:22:58.800 annoys me but yeah and again the fact that a lot of these are just non-recyclable as well so they go
01:23:03.520 in landfills so this whole thing was again in in 50 years time we're going to look back on this and
01:23:08.940 think what are we doing why are we doing any of this um nuclear tidal and a lot of other technologies
01:23:15.300 like synthetic fuels have a lot of legs but for political reasons they're dismissed entirely entirely
01:23:21.180 political annoys me um alpha the beta says if climate change was an imminent political threat
01:23:26.520 we would commit to a crash program of carbon nuclear and carbon neutral nuclear power and figure
01:23:32.320 out the problem of nuclear waste later well there isn't really a problem because it's such a small
01:23:36.800 amount that like we've got uninhabited scottish islands we'd be able to fill up for like a million
01:23:41.860 years if we wanted to in these containers so it's not a problem i mean they can't use the the this as an
01:23:49.460 excuse for not doing anything yeah that's the world is constantly ending yeah constantly just yeah
01:23:56.300 i mean that's entirely the problem but uh but anyway we'll leave the whining about nuclear power
01:24:00.860 there i i'm it's again it's a personal bugbear of mine i just it makes me seethe that i have to pay
01:24:06.740 the electric bill every week every month um but right right so rafe um what is it you're doing at
01:24:12.140 the moment and where can people can people find more from you um well you can watch me every saturday
01:24:16.760 morning on the new culture forum youtube channel uh otherwise i have my own youtube channel where all my
01:24:21.960 other media appearances are posted and of course on x which i still call twitter at raf hm so what
01:24:29.560 what is it that you're um focusing on most at the moment intellectually uh well i'm uh in the process
01:24:35.220 of writing a book which should be the first of a series of books on uh essentially uh giving the
01:24:41.220 correcting the myths on history so uh my first one is essentially 10 myths about churchill which i know
01:24:47.740 a lot of your viewers and some of your team perhaps will disagree with me on you know but
01:24:51.480 correcting a lot of the prevailing myths uh on the left and right on on that uh and then doing my
01:24:58.100 usual stuff that i'm doing on immigration and islam and everything else so can you give me one of the
01:25:02.640 most prominent myths is i've i'm very tired of the discourse surrounding churchill world war ii and
01:25:08.720 adolf hitler because it boils down to well churchill was on the winning side of world war ii
01:25:13.840 hitler would have prevented woke ideology and mass immigration therefore hitler is responsible for
01:25:20.220 d uh churchill is responsible for dei and would essentially be a communist which is of course not
01:25:25.000 what is representative of churchill yeah well of course it's it's ridiculous to blame the policies
01:25:29.740 of tony blair and subsequent governments on you know a man who died in 1965 and who left office in the
01:25:36.160 1950s there's no possible way you can connect the two of those you have well you know every policy
01:25:41.500 is a is a creature of its own time you know it's up to other generations to change policies or
01:25:46.580 whatever he never had any vision of how britain was going to end up or turn out the idea that
01:25:52.580 churchill dragged america into the into the uh second world war he tried his best to get them in but it
01:25:58.000 was actually the japanese people may remember december the 7th who actually uh brought uh and then
01:26:04.120 germany declared war on america churchill had no responsibility for any of that also the idea that you
01:26:09.820 know of daryl cooper it was interviewed by tucker carlson that churchill was the villain of the
01:26:14.200 second war i can see myself losing a lot of people every time i talk about this about one third of my
01:26:19.440 normal normal supporters turn against me but uh this is the reason i brought it up just at the end
01:26:25.280 here is because it's something i see all the time and like i'm i'm as conversant with churchill as
01:26:30.660 anyone who's done british history in school which is not very um but uh by by modern standards
01:26:37.660 churchill would have been as far right and reactionary as it comes but there's no way he'd
01:26:42.100 agree with it well you know the the left are accusing accusing of racism and killing off all
01:26:47.320 these people in the bengal famine and then someone on the right and now saying well just thanks to him
01:26:51.020 you've got massive immigration you can't have it both ways either he's one or the other and the idea
01:26:56.080 that you could have sued for peace with hitler is a complete nonsense this is the other argument put
01:27:00.160 forward that churchill should never have allied with with the soviet union and this was a huge mistake
01:27:04.560 churchill you know from the moment of the revolution said we should strangle the baby
01:27:09.260 bolshevism in its cradle and in 1945 he wanted the americans and the british and the canadians and the
01:27:15.920 poles to carry on the war against the red army push the red army out of berlin out of germany out of
01:27:21.860 poland you know he saw the threat from from the soviet union more than anybody else did 1946 fulton
01:27:27.600 missouri from stetson in the baltic to trieste in the adriatic and iron curtain has descended nobody was a
01:27:33.200 bigger foe of of communism but the reality was as khrushchev and stalin both admitted had it not been
01:27:39.840 for for for russia for american and british aid russia would have collapsed and fallen and uh the fact is
01:27:47.060 if russia had collapsed then the axis powers would have controlled europe middle east oil fields africa
01:27:53.280 asia and australia australasia and then britain would have been a vassal state and eventually you know
01:27:58.500 because hitler had napoleonic uh and alexander the great and julius caesar uh delusions and he would
01:28:03.920 he wanted to achieve what napoleon never did conquer russia and conquer britain the the point
01:28:09.200 being though is that if uh churchill was brought to here and now uh he would be a radical far rightist by
01:28:16.740 any modern standards he would be completely against mass immigration as he was in his own time he'd be
01:28:22.560 completely against communism as he was in his own time and i'm not in any way suggesting that
01:28:27.480 churchill was perfect i don't think he was a great far from perfect and i'm not even talking
01:28:31.300 on a personal level i think he was a terrible strategist uh i i think he's he made a series
01:28:35.720 of military blunders but so what a lot of people did the point being i don't think he you can draw a
01:28:41.460 direct line between him and woke dei stuff and lay it at his feet again let i'm happy to oppose the
01:28:48.080 women's suffrage for example like churchill was kind of our reactionary in a lot of ways actually so i i am
01:28:56.140 kind of annoyed to see him getting thrown so hard under the bus especially when there are much more
01:29:00.440 germane people to the actual problem tony blair boris johnson anyway i'm not going to go on but the
01:29:06.640 the point being churchill was not nearly as bad as people on the internet are making him out to be
01:29:10.320 and he has a lot more in common with what we believe the way the world should be than what the
01:29:15.340 left believe yeah look there are many legitimate reasons to criticize him on his policy on india his
01:29:20.020 abdication crisis tying britain to the gold standard all of these the gallipoli the dardanelles
01:29:25.460 lots of issues but those are fine these ones and on from the left the bengal famine and all of this
01:29:31.560 there's no legs to that whatsoever yeah i agree i looked into that because i was thinking oh that's
01:29:35.440 a bit weird and then it turns out no it's nonsense uh unsurprisingly but anyway so uh on that note go
01:29:40.440 follow rafe on his various socials uh thanks for joining us and we'll be back in half an hour for
01:29:44.340 lads hour where i believe we are rating english kings uh so that should be fun see you then
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