The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1185

00:00:00.040 Hello, and welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters for June 12th, 2025.

00:00:05.060 I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Harry and Stephen.

00:00:08.760 Hi there.

00:00:09.260 And I've...

00:00:10.100 I was punished, Harry.

00:00:11.000 Actually, I thought we'd established this.

00:00:12.800 I got caught in a terrible swind and downpour before this, so my hair is still wet.

00:00:16.820 So you lovely folks at home get to have the pleasure of seeing my hair dry in real time.

00:00:21.780 Sultry, damp-haired Harry.

00:00:23.520 Yes.

00:00:24.020 Going on the calendar, yes.

00:00:25.860 Well, so I've been informed by tech that...

00:00:29.980 I'm just not saying anything about that at all.

00:00:32.260 The calendar with the wet hair and the flick back.

00:00:35.020 I've been informed by tech that apparently the live chat is down on the website,

00:00:39.320 so if you want to take part in that, you'll have to go over to Rumble.

00:00:42.720 But today we're going to be discussing Orban's defence of Europe,

00:00:47.420 the failed or the stopping the Mexican reconquista...

00:00:51.480 The ongoing attempt for the Mexican reconquista, which will fail because Mexicans, it turns out, are sleepy and lazy.

00:00:57.640 Yes, and Labour's latest betrayal of Britain by handing over border control of Gibraltar to the EU.

00:01:05.880 So, with that all said, Stephen, tell us about Orban.

00:01:09.140 Well, thanks so much.

00:01:10.000 Before we get to Orban, I've got to talk about the death of man.

00:01:14.000 No, this is not a new show headed by Kamala Harris or indeed the Democrats in their pro-feminist anti-man world.

00:01:21.820 No, this is actually, Carl, going through the whole philosophy and ideas of the concept of the death of man.

00:01:28.620 And if we don't stand up for ourselves and what we do, then we will find ourselves having some real serious problems down the line.

00:01:35.320 I believe it's talking about the history of the Enlightenment and the decoupling of transcendent values

00:01:41.900 from pre-enlightenment thinkers to the more rationalist ideas.

00:01:46.700 It's kind of an elaboration on Carl's ideas of rationalism, which he picked up from Michael Oakeshott, as far as I'm aware.

00:01:53.720 Which I think is really good in the way that you explain it in terms of a philosophical sense.

00:01:57.120 But I like to put it in that there was a good time, now there's a bad time, and men are trying to be killed off.

00:02:02.100 And this is a way of doing it philosophically and explaining it in a nice way.

00:02:06.700 For those who are not as bright and deeply involved in philosophy as you are.

00:02:12.980 I don't really read much philosophy.

00:02:16.840 Only fans.

00:02:17.860 That's it, the only fans of philosophy.

00:02:19.820 He's only just hearing about philosophy now.

00:02:21.960 Most of it is dreadfully boring.

00:02:24.220 Okay.

00:02:26.040 Well, I would recommend it.

00:02:28.200 Nearly 5,000 people have seen it.

00:02:29.660 I think it's going really, really well.

00:02:31.420 And I would certainly think that you should, if you want to look at it, get onto the premium and join us and have a view.

00:02:37.160 And then you can come back and tell us whether we're talking, you know, out of our backsides, to be honest,

00:02:41.300 or whether we're actually just geniuses in our own way of describing how this goes.

00:02:46.040 So, getting on to Orban, who I generally think is a genius at the moment.

00:02:50.300 And long may he continue.

00:02:52.760 He's just done a series, I don't know if you've been watching over the last few weeks,

00:02:56.060 a series of big speeches, both in France and his own country.

00:03:00.440 And in a way, he has just really upped the ante towards how Hungary is positioning itself alongside Trump

00:03:09.340 and the kind of concept of a free Hungary in the European Union.

00:03:14.500 And he's daring them at the moment, my view of how he's going.

00:03:17.840 And there's a couple of things here I want to come from, beginning with this.

00:03:21.740 Clearly, we know that J.D. Vance has come out and said that Europe's, you know, anti-freedom of speech,

00:03:27.180 is attacking the liberties of the individual.

00:03:30.880 And in one of the recent events by Orban, I just got three or four little clips I'm going to play to people,

00:03:39.020 just to ask you to look at the language that he's using now.

00:03:42.840 This is almost wartime language. It's almost Turchillian, in my view.

00:03:50.740 Okay, so you might need to reduce the volume.

00:03:58.800 Oh, you're going to need to stay on the video.

00:04:01.740 Yep, go. If you can play that, Samson, that'd be great.

00:04:06.140 Yes, please do.

00:04:24.000 but they want to decide inside. And everyone sees that there is a problem.

00:04:29.000 The whole kóceráj is inog and rosskadozik. You have to change. This is not going further.

00:04:54.000 Freedom of speech, the AFD, Salvini, is indicating how they're breaking up freedom of speech by attacking democratically elected parties and individuals and saying we've only got one saviour, and that is the United States.

00:05:08.000 And he's also indicating changes needed. This cannot go on. And just the way it's his stance, but obviously we know where this is going to go on the left.

00:05:17.000 The way that he talks, the strength in his language, they're going to say he's not Churchillian, is more that of a far-right leader of an age past, which I don't disagree on.

00:05:27.000 I don't know what your first thoughts are seeing this.

00:05:30.000 Well, perhaps if you're a far-right leader of ages past, we used to just call that normal. We used to just call that belief in the nation-state.

00:05:40.000 You might want to be close to the mic.

00:05:42.000 I'm sure, yeah, I just realised. You gave me the look, as if to say, move your face.

00:05:49.000 You know, belief in the nation-state, belief in borders, belief in national identity, some level of ethnic consciousness, just sensible, normal human behaviour.

00:06:02.000 Yeah, and I'm liking this kind of new strength that he's come through.

00:06:06.000 He continues, so that's about freedom of speech.

00:06:09.000 He then, in France, comes along and he talks about the population replacement.

00:06:15.000 The language here again, incredibly impressive, and something you may want to take the volume down on this too for people.

00:06:23.000 Mit Ye put an agent on this there?

00:06:25.000 Notre Historia and have been a part of our society.

00:06:26.000 My brother, 20 years ago ago we went to the global global world on the internet.

00:06:27.000 We got command of all the people in the south jogos.

00:06:28.000 We tripped the system of therei зла for the country, includingACK-out on this as possible.

00:06:29.000 We nuestra corrija is right away.

00:06:30.000 We lost the batter, poor we left, beastly.

00:06:32.000 Our秘 прив Additional war was in the West Ham,

00:06:50.020 I haven't got crab, I don't have anti-semitism,

00:06:53.780 I don't think there'svi and no tragedy!

00:06:56.620 nuestra kommunicITH are thening here,

00:06:59.460 Brusselsiele Р breaks and times 1993.

00:07:03.380 The péns are living in the United States,

00:07:04.980 Ik ha done one million euros for the sake of if we should

00:07:06.660 получить a usual need we need to steal betrayed

00:07:08.580 at one billion euros,

00:07:09.380 we won't let them get awayusa into trouble.

00:07:11.220 I don't register and don't need to

00:07:12.200 put it aside to our streets and our country's

00:07:14.180 protectedRP it isn't migration,

00:07:16.580 but specifically based privatelos,

00:07:18.460 which is the base of the culture of Europe.

00:07:21.460 We, the Germans, won't be afraid of Brussels.

00:07:24.460 We stand on the people's side and we stand for our hearts.

00:07:27.460 We stand for our families and for our home,

00:07:29.460 if the whole brusseli bureaucracy,

00:07:31.460 is not for the war.

00:07:34.460 Now I'm looking at that, and again,

00:07:36.460 he's indicating that he took the fight on,

00:07:38.460 and it's a message that I think is being pushed on from America to himself.

00:07:42.460 He said, look, you stood firm, you got out there,

00:07:45.460 you pushed against the left.

00:07:47.460 The mass walk through the institutions that were occurring in Hungary,

00:07:51.460 you stopped it, you forced it back,

00:07:53.460 and you took the ground on one of their big fronts,

00:07:56.460 which is immigration and population replacement.

00:07:59.460 And he's done so in such a way,

00:08:01.460 and he set out very clearly why he's doing this.

00:08:04.460 It's about culture, it's about protecting people,

00:08:06.460 it's about Hungary, being for Hungarians.

00:08:09.460 And I think this is a message he's saying then,

00:08:12.460 look who is stopping us.

00:08:13.460 They're even making us pay one million euros a day.

00:08:17.460 So they're attacking us on freedom of speech and political parties.

00:08:21.460 This is the reason why, is we're standing up for them.

00:08:23.460 But we're going to stand for them,

00:08:25.460 even though we're going to pay them a million euros a day,

00:08:29.460 which goes on in a later video,

00:08:31.460 which shows how actually quite expensive that is for a nation like Hungary.

00:08:35.460 But it sets out in this another message of turning around and saying,

00:08:39.460 there are things that you can do against the Goliath.

00:08:42.460 Take the beatings if you want.

00:08:44.460 Take the money, they can have the money,

00:08:46.460 but I'm not having anyone into this country that you're forcing into us.

00:08:49.460 So that's a lesson that we should be taking in this country.

00:08:52.460 Any leadership should be able to say,

00:08:54.460 if you're not going to stop the boats,

00:08:56.460 we'll take some other form of punishment from you.

00:08:59.460 Maybe you'll close down Dover and we can't have it,

00:09:02.460 but we'll do the same. We'll stop the trains.

00:09:05.460 So there needs to be that kind of firm action.

00:09:08.460 And he's indicating where that firm action is.

00:09:11.460 Because of the history of Hungary, you know, conquered by the Ottomans,

00:09:15.460 conquered by the Germans, conquered by the Soviets.

00:09:18.460 It speaks to the Eastern European, you know,

00:09:22.460 Hungarian experience of treating politics seriously,

00:09:26.460 treating statesmanship seriously,

00:09:29.460 because you've finally got a nation of your own again.

00:09:32.460 And they don't want to ruin it.

00:09:34.460 Yeah, and I like that.

00:09:36.460 And I can't, you know, I personally can't understand

00:09:39.460 what's wrong with what he's saying

00:09:41.460 in terms of the actions that he's got.

00:09:43.460 And I know that I've got a couple more

00:09:45.460 and I'm conscious of the time as well.

00:09:47.460 But he moves on to a third one and he says,

00:09:49.460 you can watch this one.

00:09:51.460 Again, a similar sort of speech in Hungary.

00:09:53.460 There are zero illegal immigrants crossing the border without permission.

00:09:57.460 It's not a human right.

00:09:59.460 It is a crime.

00:10:00.460 And if you want to come to Hungary, you must ask for permission.

00:10:03.460 Now, I say to people, I won't play this particular one

00:10:06.460 because it's at the Edmund Burke Foundation.

00:10:08.460 But it's very good where he actually just turns around and says,

00:10:11.460 it's a crime.

00:10:12.460 And I'm treating it like a crime.

00:10:14.460 It's organized by criminals.

00:10:16.460 And it's supported, in his words, by the criminals in the European Union.

00:10:20.460 And then we've got the fourth one, which is, again,

00:10:24.460 this is moving on to another area that he's got.

00:10:28.460 He's creating three levels of attack.

00:10:30.460 Now, we know he's been attacked over immigration.

00:10:33.460 And we know that he's been attacked

00:10:35.460 about the kind of rule of law issues by the European Union.

00:10:38.460 But as I'll show in a moment,

00:10:40.460 he's never been attacked more than on this particular point.

00:10:43.460 Hello and welcome to the French Patrioters.

00:10:45.460 I'm from a country that's a major Ukraine.

00:10:50.460 The protesters want to believe that we have to keep up the war.

00:10:55.460 But I will listen to you.

00:10:57.460 This war will not win.

00:10:59.460 There is no answer to the civil rights.

00:11:00.460 There is no war.

00:11:01.460 There is no war.

00:11:02.460 There is no war.

00:11:03.460 There is no war.

00:11:04.460 There is no war.

00:11:05.460 There is no war.

00:11:06.460 There is no war.

00:11:08.460 There is no war.

00:11:09.460 We don't want to die Ukraine.

00:11:10.460 We don't want to come back home.

00:11:11.460 We don't want to come back home.

00:11:12.460 right and i think that is incredibly powerful because he's not just talking about the people

00:11:39.260 in his country saying look there's a war going on there we want peace again the united states do

00:11:44.540 but there's a rationale for this and it's not just about the bodies he's very primarily concerned

00:11:50.540 about the individuals in his country not being dragged on but he's also indicating two other

00:11:54.300 things he doesn't want this continuous war like in afghanistan on his right but more than anything

00:11:58.940 else he recognizes why the european union not only want this war it's because they want to

00:12:05.100 maintain and usurp more power from the state they want to be able to bring all the fiscal

00:12:10.700 elements of european countries under one bond issuance under one control that there is no in

00:12:17.100 way whatsoever by european countries to be able to control their economies they're going to use the

00:12:22.540 excuse of a war to solidify the european union to one country once and forever and that means he loses

00:12:28.940 exactly the point you talked about the freedoms they got from a post-communist world of being

00:12:34.300 outside of the ussor means that they are now within the eusssor so he has no control but it's the

00:12:42.620 smart thinking it's the understanding of the long-term aims of what the european union is about in

00:12:49.340 relation to control of power and he's stepping up and standing up and saying no there's a little bit

00:12:54.300 further coming on now of course this what do you expect where this is where they're going to come back

00:13:00.060 you know he's talking around real big ukraine policy to them ukraine is a massive issue not

00:13:06.940 only means that they can actually reinforce rearmament across the europe with the ideas that we can talk

00:13:12.380 five percent of gdp in the uk that nato is going to be weakened they say so we have to have a european

00:13:20.060 military armed force to be able to take on those 197 million russians against our billions of people in

00:13:27.260 europe you know because obviously that small number with a gdp much less than what the rest of europe is

00:13:33.260 much less in terms of spending on the military than the rest of europe is but they are a massive enemy

00:13:39.020 so therefore we need to take control of all banking all financials create the full country at last bring

00:13:45.100 britain back in and then we can launch a war on them and he's saying no but the pushback now because

00:13:52.700 he's stepping up against that last final element the only way that they can see the european union

00:13:59.180 of bringing the country together as to one is that that they won is through war that's how they see it

00:14:05.500 because it's crumbling economically it's crumbling mass migration is crumbling well it's uh it's a tale as

00:14:13.260 old as time isn't it that you create an existential enemy yeah in order to create unity out of it

00:14:18.460 and i'm looking at this i mean he wrote a letter which i think is um quite brave of him in any way

00:14:26.220 but he must have done so if he felt that he had support from other areas and he's threatening to

00:14:31.420 block uh funding for for ukraine using his vote and and that's led to calls and i think i'll talk about

00:14:38.060 it later on it's probably should have been talking about it now is actually the eu are now talking about

00:14:42.620 removing hungary's votes the right to vote at all in anything in the commission in the council in the

00:14:49.580 parliament they want to effectively say you're in the club we're fining you you do as you're told

00:14:56.540 until you actually um do as you told and we we tell you what to do and then we'll allow you back until

00:15:02.540 then you you can't even get a membership vote you pay your fee but you're getting nothing and and i think

00:15:07.900 that's also shows to the anti-democratic element that's occurring within the minds of some people

00:15:13.420 in the european union but when we ask ourselves he's done all his policies and this is a bit bit

00:15:19.820 gray here people say what's wrong with you know he's obviously an evil man he's like hitler you know

00:15:28.300 but because he's stopping the rule of law he's putting fences up he's not wanting to go to war

00:15:33.580 he's stopping immigrants coming in but then you look at this instance of terrorism in hungary from

00:15:38.700 1989 to 2016 actually that big spike they talk about is really one that's one he's and this is on

00:15:47.820 from statistita you know he's got no terrorist actions from islam in his country and what is

00:15:55.740 clear because he's not allowing foreign invaders in and he's controlling them at the borders and yet

00:16:01.020 look at germany did exactly the opposite and almost seems to have one one a month

00:16:06.060 on there so what is wrong with that then we look just pulling out some numbers numbers of registered

00:16:11.260 crime cases in hungary from 2010 to 23 crime is declining on serious levels since he come into

00:16:18.860 power what did the left want remove him bring out the rights and bring crime back up again so that we

00:16:24.540 can have another balamina another paris you know more riots everywhere that we can have more rape

00:16:30.620 gangs coming in the equivalents of rotherham all over the place and so actually his actions

00:16:37.660 of closing borders being defense looking at the nation state of hungary and its people

00:16:43.580 is creating a safer more robust and a more pleasant place to live in and i find it completely weird

00:16:52.700 um so that people oppose it and then we've got this you know from mikos i think he's one of his

00:17:00.780 assistants if i'm right uh i think he might be his chief of staff or head of uh or as a lawyer within

00:17:06.060 the oh it's director of fundamental rights yes and because good guy actually um and he talks about

00:17:11.420 this no street gangs no anti-semitism no violence no riots and he makes this very clear in this recent

00:17:17.340 french speech the french victoire conference that he was in and then i think you know i find it

00:17:23.580 utterly bizarre that all these countries where you have all of this are actually looking at the one

00:17:29.500 country that doesn't have it with a leader that's standing up for the rights of his people and actually

00:17:34.220 protecting them and saying he's he's weird and he's wrong uh and and and this now is the former

00:17:41.660 lithuanian foreign minister um it's it's intriguing what he talks about here the challenge on the

00:17:49.900 writing there it says we call it what you want but this is the common denominator we won't be stronger

00:17:54.220 than hungary allows us and we haven't challenged that i just just i just say always when you're

00:18:00.540 looking at these look at the features and the facial expressions of the same position where

00:18:06.140 orban is our ceiling europe cannot outgrow victor orban he tells us how far can we go this is our

00:18:13.420 you know glass ceiling whatever call it what you want but this is the common denominator of europe we

00:18:18.220 won't be stronger than hungary allows us to and we haven't challenged that i find that fascinating on

00:18:25.820 a number of fronts i don't know what you you think was was his reasoning that a single country

00:18:30.140 and a single leader would be such a uh a stopper to their uh like how powerful europe could be

00:18:37.020 exactly and that's exactly the point how is he suggesting for a minute that this one man from

00:18:42.700 the smaller part of of europe who doesn't have the economic power of germany doesn't have the kind

00:18:48.620 of military and economic influence of the french you know doesn't have the voting uh connections of

00:18:55.260 spain and italy when they look together how is he more powerful than all of them and he alone

00:19:01.900 is stopping europe from going and what it means is that he has a vote he has a veto

00:19:09.260 under the rights and democratic principles of the european union every country that joins

00:19:14.300 has a veto over certain parts which are defined as being totally about their own country the economy

00:19:20.220 the currency elements of military and so europe can only be more powerful that ceiling can only be

00:19:28.780 broken if none of those countries have that power to be able to have those influences on there so once

00:19:34.380 again we have an individual like this a former foreign minister in his case you know he is advocating

00:19:40.060 more for war without a doubt he wants more war against um against russia you know lithuania is in

00:19:46.460 danger tomorrow obviously they're going to be invaded you know and the next day it's probably estonia and

00:19:51.260 then obviously russia will take on germany as a retaliation for the them coming at them in world war

00:19:56.620 one or two or wherever it is but the idea of that is all about them having a power grab and this one man

00:20:03.260 is using democratically principled set out in their original documents he's using the power of democracy

00:20:11.820 to stop them being autocratic so of course uh what we do see in in europe is that's the the leadership

00:20:22.700 and of course the hungarians protesting outside the urban regime in front of the parliament

00:20:27.980 um they're saying this is right now over the last couple of days obviously like most cities the

00:20:34.220 hungarian capital does have more students but it also has an awful lot of funding from the european

00:20:40.620 union being pumped into rights organizations i was about i was about to ask how they were able to

00:20:46.540 raise all of the money for a stage multiple screens scaffolding speaker systems all of the technology

00:20:52.540 that comes with this i'd imagine it's being funneled through ngos yes and of course um there were some

00:20:58.780 laws brought in to try and prevent some of the ngos but of course a lot of the ngos that connected

00:21:03.020 with the eu can't be attacked they have to be funded so what we talked about only um the other day was

00:21:10.780 about uh how these mexicans are acting within america to agitate against america for on behalf

00:21:19.900 of mexico what you have here is funding from the eu agitating people to support the eu against their own

00:21:28.140 nation states and that's one of the modus operandi you know of of kind of the same arguments that they

00:21:34.940 say that china is doing at the moment across europe or that russia is doing in the same way so whenever

00:21:41.740 people point to me say well that's what russia does that's what china do and i say well actually

00:21:45.660 that's what we do too but ours is okay no what it means is it's okay because it supports your argument

00:21:53.020 and if someone else has a different argument and they're doing the same that kind of hypocrisy the

00:21:57.500 two-tier element comes into place but actually someone unfortunately i i did see the drone footage

00:22:04.060 of that pulling away uh and i couldn't capture i couldn't see where it was but it seemed to disappear

00:22:09.260 from the feeds um that i was looking at when i was doing the initial research but actually wasn't that

00:22:14.380 many it wasn't that many that you know it's it's a crowd there but you could say it was like a couple

00:22:19.980 of thousand people two three thousand people when when the drone footage comes back nonetheless it's

00:22:26.460 where they're going to start again because obviously we had uh some hungarian politicians

00:22:31.340 who are campaigning for like the mayors of of the cities who are gaining ground upon what they call

00:22:36.540 the young people and we have uh people like this they call themselves supporting israel and yet orban has

00:22:45.340 no anti-semitism no marches by pro hammer supporters and this is what they're actually saying the jokes

00:22:53.500 are over the european union is going to cut out the tongue of orban and they're linking him to putin's

00:22:58.940 tools inside hungary so the modern day hitler is putin anybody that stands against us on any particular issue

00:23:08.860 is putin's fools we know that we've been called that some of us have i know i have particularly as i

00:23:14.780 fly in my helicopter from here to my large surrey estate before i capture my boat to get down to

00:23:20.220 my barbea you know house of course all funded by you know the funding i get from the russia for arguing

00:23:26.300 both sides i i've seen you you know leave this podcast and immediately revert to speaking russian

00:23:31.500 yeah that's right that's it you do it yeah is there any evidence like legitimate actual evidence

00:23:37.100 connecting orban to russia in any way no no but there is this recent case that one of his pr people is now

00:23:43.580 alleged to have um uh to be fair on on their arguments are alleged receiving funding and orban

00:23:49.660 is very quiet they're saying um and then we we've got uh again coming back from miklos is the black

00:23:56.620 sheep of the european union the nightmare the hope of european and that's how we see it or certainly

00:24:01.500 that's how i see it that he is the last bastion of christians alongside you know the working what

00:24:06.860 they're doing in poland providing they don't have former eu commissioners parliamentarians in charge of

00:24:12.700 their government and thank god that they actually did get a a president who is of the right um and

00:24:19.660 and and i i come down to the the conclusion this is how we're seeing it um afd's alice vice i want

00:24:27.180 good relationships with victor morgan's a counter model to angela merkel who pursued politics against

00:24:34.380 her own people and i think a lot of people would argue that's where the european union seems to be they

00:24:40.220 love this kind of model of we are the only ones who can make the decisions power should be at the

00:24:46.460 top the people should just listen and get on with it and anyone who fawns to us will give you some of

00:24:51.260 the trinkets of cash down the line through our ngos and our funding to ensure and those of you stand up

00:24:57.100 for you like orban or like alice vital we're either going to imprison you remove you ban you silence you

00:25:03.500 in some way but i just say that over the last few days looking at the speech he's been doing in france

00:25:09.740 what he's been doing in his own country orban's stepping up and he's now hitting them in both a

00:25:15.020 financial and military based argument that they're really going to come for him and i think we're

00:25:20.700 going to see some fireworks in europe over the next few weeks as they'll go for slovenia i believe

00:25:26.380 they'll go for poland and the leader there and the european union won't stop until they've been able to

00:25:31.900 a get the money and funding towards taking on a greater military capability against ukraine

00:25:37.740 and b then use that as the excuses you've identified to join a more unified european country long may he

00:25:44.940 stand strong but we don't have a government to back him at the moment on our side well the continuous

00:25:49.900 pattern is just to you know import crisis you know policy decisions that bring about more crisis

00:25:57.580 and then accumulate more power in the hands of people who made those crises possible in the first

00:26:03.420 place yes this is a the continuous pattern of how things are shall i go through the comment yeah

00:26:09.340 yes we've got three rumble rents here okay okay so uh rage quit ninja says didn't hitler tried the

00:26:15.500 same thing with europe as the eu now we may have won the war but the battle is lost battle is never

00:26:21.420 lost ninja uh orban uh logan 17 pints i just i just have to uh uh correct uh that little thing

00:26:29.740 uh that this is a this is a bit of a historical mangling that i've get quite annoyed with right

00:26:34.700 now uh yes during the second world war there was an attempt by germany to consolidate its own power on

00:26:40.220 the continent under a german dominated imperium but the idea of some kind of european imperium

00:26:48.620 uh is not the same as what's being done with the eu now which is a bit more of just a larger

00:26:54.540 bureaucratic umbrella state over all of the states that europe exists in uh right now as far as i can

00:27:02.300 tell the eu beyond wanting to have some form of war with russia and protect its own territory uh wouldn't

00:27:09.500 be looking to expand its territory further east to the ural mountains or uh or beyond back there'd be no

00:27:16.540 attempt by the european union as we know it right now to engage in any kind of like classical 19th

00:27:21.740 century colonialism which i would have expected under some kind of um european imperium if the war had

00:27:29.420 gone the other way uh so that i just wanted to i just want to correct that that's always something

00:27:33.740 that really uh as as somebody who reads a lot of history it's a bit of a mangling that always gets

00:27:38.940 on my nerves sorry to spur no no not at all i appreciate the clarity uh logan 17 pan says aubin is

00:27:44.780 acting as a one voice of reason in the room full of marxists it's not even i feel like it's not

00:27:51.100 necessarily even marxism is it it's just it's just technocracy it's technocracy managerialism it it's

00:27:57.100 just pure kind of coming out of the greek ideas and the ideology that there has to be just a group

00:28:02.380 a small group of people and we're lucky enough to have been trained into it to run everything and

00:28:06.460 that's the technocracy and that you should be just grateful i don't want to sound like a marxist

00:28:12.940 saying this i would say the ideology that prevails um by among most of these people opposing orban

00:28:19.740 is more of a uh globalist neo uh neoliberalism uh rather than marxism although both of them can

00:28:26.700 broadly be described as being on the left yes politically yeah and uh the haptification says

00:28:31.740 harry looking like an anime villain with wet hair looks like azen from bleach i don't know if

00:28:37.180 what that is i looked up that character as uh as that came in and i can see a bit of the resemblance

00:28:42.860 i'll take it i'll take it as a compliment samson i can see behind the screen nodding giving me

00:28:49.420 thumbs up saying this is a good thing harry he's gonna put that up there in a minute isn't he yeah

00:28:54.060 could i have the mouse yeah oh wait no there's a mouse here sorry there you go blocked from my vision

00:28:58.620 okay let's get the next screen up all right then so um i wanted to talk a little bit about the la

00:29:06.380 riots and disturbances that have been going on over the past few days i know it was covered a little

00:29:10.300 bit well i mean there was a full segment dedicated to it yesterday that carl did but i wanted to talk

00:29:15.020 more broadly about the idea of reconquista which seems to be driving a lot of the illegal mexicans who

00:29:22.940 are in california and broadly along the west coast of america that seems to be a driving motivating

00:29:29.340 factor for why it is that they're behaving the way that they are and i'd like to um add a little

00:29:35.340 preamble to this by saying that in my understanding of how a nation is built and who a nation belongs to

00:29:43.420 it is the people who really built it it really annoys me that there's this idea that something that

00:29:49.100 was a deserted patch of land with a few either ranches or nomadic tribes kind of just running

00:29:55.820 about on top of it uh prior to europeans or in this case americans showing up uh still belongs to

00:30:02.700 those people just because they kind of rode around on horses for a little bit doing otherwise nothing

00:30:07.820 with it you could call me a bit of a lockian in the sense that i believe that ownership of the land

00:30:13.020 first of all is a contractual sort of thing given that the americans purchased california

00:30:19.740 from the mexicans in in 1848 but i'd also say it also has a lot to do with the idea of if you have

00:30:26.940 mixed your labor with that land if you've actually done something with it if you've developed it if

00:30:31.660 you've produced something productive using that land so i use the same thing with the idea of the

00:30:39.340 indian americans the native americans and the europeans mainly british who got here yes america

00:30:46.220 as a land mass existed and it had a load of tribes all murdering each other and doing scalpings and

00:30:52.940 all sorts of horrible things to one another but they weren't actually really doing all of that much

00:30:58.460 other than murdering each other on the land america as a nation the united states of america did not

00:31:04.780 exist until the american people that being the british who settled there made the nation and it's

00:31:11.580 the same with california just because your ancestors kind of sat around on california for a little bit

00:31:17.580 in the early 19th century they didn't build california americans built california so that's my

00:31:25.020 little preamble establishing my standards for who owns or who the land belongs to personally but if you'd

00:31:33.500 like more philosophical digressions um that hopefully have a point you should watch carl's

00:31:39.340 latest documentary our first proper documentary that we've ever done called the death of man where

00:31:45.260 he looks into the philosophical underpinnings of the enlightenment and how he believes it separated us

00:31:53.340 from a sort of transcendent consciousness that was more uh in tune with the religious nature of man

00:32:00.940 before we became increasingly secularized particularly in europe that is a premium video

00:32:06.860 so if you would like to watch that please subscribe to the website a bronze tier membership or higher

00:32:12.940 will get you access to that along with an enormous back catalogue of material which i think you'll really

00:32:18.700 really enjoy so first of all regarding all of this stuff to do with mexico one of the funny things i

00:32:23.420 like to look into is the new york times are a particularly bad one for this what is the propaganda

00:32:30.300 being pushed by left-wing media and broader media in general to be honest on the deportations that

00:32:37.660 are going on what's it being pushed out what cases are being used to make sure that everybody knows

00:32:42.780 that you should feel bad about it and have some tear for these poor illegal immigrants who shouldn't

00:32:47.820 have been here in the first place being sent back to the country that they came from that they love

00:32:51.820 dearly but would never ever ever ever want to live there so this one is a venezuelan man whose criminal

00:32:59.260 past made him a target of immigration agents as you would hope so so i thought i'd look through a

00:33:05.020 little bit of this so this man is part of a family called the itriago arevalo family

00:33:13.340 um who are like many recent immigrant families they say extremely close with one another a walking

00:33:19.900 path of turf patches connects their two family homes one was shared by carlos emily and their son the

00:33:25.980 other by his parents two brothers sister-in-law and niece and this article mainly looks over uh

00:33:31.740 the subject of carlos who was picked up by ice when in florida when he went out without his phone so

00:33:39.500 they're all confused about how they managed to get hold of him most of them had overstayed their visas

00:33:44.220 these are always the most sympathetic cases the media will find but they overstayed their visas i.e

00:33:50.940 illegally in the country and later sought protection from deportation into the biden administration

00:33:55.260 who were more than happy to allow them to stay in the country despite not be not supposed to be

00:33:59.900 being there carlos first came to the united states in 2016 when he was 25 leaving behind emily and their

00:34:05.020 son who was barely 10 months old venezuela was on the brink of economic collapse and carlos said he

00:34:09.980 needed to find work boo hoo he got a tourist visa and planned to stay for just a few months uh it didn't

00:34:16.380 let him work legally that visa but you know these kinds of people legality doesn't really matter it

00:34:22.700 doesn't come into the conversation so he got a job at a dishwasher and then he met some crazy people

00:34:28.940 in april of 2017 i.e fell in with criminals and then he ended up getting arrested in jacksonville with

00:34:35.340 a group of people accused of using atm skimming devices to collect credit and debit card numbers to

00:34:40.700 make fraudulent purchases he knew it was wrong i knew it was wrong i was a ai caramba please no me

00:34:47.020 gusta don't send me back to my country eh uh but he said he had to use some of the stolen money to

00:34:52.860 send food and other items back home he pleaded guilty to three felonies and was sentenced to five

00:34:57.820 years in a florida florida prison and while he was there he was uh he applied for asylum case was

00:35:03.980 denied and in december 2021 a judge ordered him removed which he wasn't of course came to pick up

00:35:12.620 with and then when they when they eventually pick him up he goes like oh how did this happen why is

00:35:18.060 this happening and the new york times looks at the case like this and goes poor baby poor carlos he

00:35:25.180 didn't know any better he's only a poor retarded venezuelan they can't follow laws and rules down there

00:35:31.500 look at how terrible their country is of course they can't which is why they need to move here

00:35:36.060 where they will improve america they will improve it by getting cards that can steal from you

00:35:43.260 and working gangs together that they will call just friends yeah and and i fell into that gang and you

00:35:49.180 know i just didn't know what to do as i stab a knife into the back of your neck and just turn around to

00:35:53.740 rob your wallet expect to see articles like this talking about the people that we've seen from the photo

00:35:59.100 shoots that they've been doing frankly at the la riots recently particularly that guy on the motorbike

00:36:03.980 waving around his mexican flag because again he loves mexico so so so much but he would never ever

00:36:09.740 want to live there because i assume the mexican government aren't willing to give him free money

00:36:15.020 or allow him to undercut the wages of his fellow mexicans whereas america is more than happy to do

00:36:19.740 that particularly states like california uh but there's been this push that i think carl covered a little

00:36:26.220 bit of but i wanted to just make it go over it in a bit more detail there's this push from people

00:36:32.060 including comrade cisco uh who has is his banner be gay do crime free palestine overthrow capitalism

00:36:40.140 a pretty short ice if you can track comrade cisco down he seems like a prime suspect for deportation

00:36:47.580 if you ask me and he says americans when the former mexican territory got mexicans in it uh seemingly

00:36:55.180 forgetting that the word former has any meaning whatsoever and then you get people like this

00:37:02.460 one of this protester this hideous fat dysgenic protester stating that this is our city and this

00:37:10.540 was mexico again in the similar way that gen z i discovered last week can't understand third person

00:37:18.460 omniscient viewpoints in novels these people can't seem to understand what present and past tense

00:37:25.020 are and what the difference between them uh because was does not mean is and surely as well it's not

00:37:32.220 an ought is kind of uh comparison as well because california shouldn't be mexico as far as i'm

00:37:38.380 concerned and then the president of the mexican senate himself came out and said that they will build a

00:37:44.620 wall and pay for it but will do it according to the 1830 map of mexico note that he's having to go almost

00:37:51.900 200 years ago for this reference point mexicans were settled in these territories before the u.s yes

00:37:59.180 yes roughly in the california area about seven thousand about 500 ranches were here and uh 500 ranches

00:38:10.060 does not a civilization make the mexicans living there are in what has always been their homeland and i'll i'll

00:38:19.100 i'll correct that and then you get idiots like katie perry as well celebrities they always love to

00:38:25.340 throw this kind of ill-informed opinion out there she was posting about a a place that literally began

00:38:32.460 as el pueblo de nuestro senora la reña de los angeles yeah we got rid of all of that rubbish and just

00:38:39.260 called it los angeles because it wasn't that anymore that's that's what americas did founded by mexican

00:38:45.100 settlers in 1781 no it was the spanish these people they don't know anything it frustrates me

00:38:52.620 all it took for preparing this segment was just like 20 minutes of googling to get most of the

00:39:00.300 information that i needed for this and these idiots these fools with huge platforms don't even do that

00:39:09.660 they see some infographic pop up on their social media and they go i'd be such a good person if i

00:39:17.100 shared this the people need to know katie perry think that accent's so good katie perry you're what

00:39:24.780 you're on the wrong side of 40 now i assume you're not relevant you're not relevant anymore she's trying

00:39:31.660 to be relevant isn't she that's it she's trying to bring herself back in look at me but nobody cares all

00:39:36.700 you're doing is in the most accurate way of saying this you're spreading misinformation yeah but the

00:39:43.820 funny thing is that all of this attitude of the like well this has always been our territory we've

00:39:48.540 always been here is actually a um uh the it's it's the promotion of this idea of reconquista uh which is

00:40:00.940 quite popular in mexico amongst mexicans and amongst mexicans in the southwest territories

00:40:08.140 of what states of the united states known as advocating a greater mexico such opinions are

00:40:14.940 often formed on the basis that those territories were were part of the spanish empire for centuries

00:40:22.060 and then of mexico from 1821 until they were annexed by the united states during the texas annexation of

00:40:28.380 1845 the mexican cessation session of 1848 because of the america mexican american war so note as well like

00:40:38.540 this territory belonged to mexico 23 for 24 years and 27 years it has been it has been 180 years since then

00:40:52.220 and 177 years since since then and uh california itself has been the 31st state of america

00:40:59.740 for 175 years because it was uh made the 31st state in 1850 so we're talking about a long long long time

00:41:09.660 ago but also the idea of this reconquista is is like sounds heroic right it sounds like i'm seeing american

00:41:16.780 movies well there with guys and then it sounds like the warriors the warriors coming in and taking it

00:41:23.340 back by force through honorable combat instead of drip feeding people on the plane yeah yes sneaking in

00:41:33.100 stealing jobs by undercutting wages and then begging for handouts is what it is what it actually is so

00:41:40.540 sorry i hate to break it to you this could not conquer anything is not warrior phenotype not that i've

00:41:48.460 seen before certainly wouldn't even be in the movie perhaps in mexico they just build them differently

00:41:54.060 you know your voice didn't even sound mexican when you played it oh i'll play it this is our city

00:42:01.660 and this was mexico you can't kick us out of the land that was ours

00:42:16.300 let our people go you've let yourself go

00:42:23.100 the delusion of these people uh but but it's it's very strange how popular this idea is and how

00:42:29.900 long it has been going on for uh people for years have called people like um i don't know jared

00:42:36.700 taylor uh horrible awful racist white supremacists for bringing up the fact that a significant a

00:42:43.900 majority of people of mexican descent around the southwest coast of america are proponents of the

00:42:51.100 idea of reconquista turning it back into a mexican territory of the idea that if you don't know spanish

00:42:58.300 in these states especially amongst some parts of the cities and counties then you're s out of

00:43:03.580 luck because you're going to be a minority there but then you see that like again the president of

00:43:09.420 the mexican senate advocating for it himself and on the page here as well it's got some more uh

00:43:16.620 information illegal immigration to the southwest is sometimes viewed as a form of reconquista in light

00:43:22.060 of the fact that texas statehood was preceded by an influx of u.s settlers into that mexican

00:43:26.940 province until u.s citizens outnumbered mexicans 10 to 1 and took over the area's governance the

00:43:32.940 theory is that the reverse will happen when mexicans eventually become so numerous in the

00:43:36.860 region that they wield substantial influence including political power even if it's not

00:43:42.700 intended some analysts say the significant demographic shift in the southwest may result

00:43:46.940 in a de facto reconquista political scientist samuel p huntington who is the author of clash of

00:43:53.500 clash of civilizations very interesting book a proponent of the widespread popularity of

00:43:58.780 reconquista stated in 2004 demographically socially and culturally the reconquista of the southwest

00:44:05.180 united states by mexican immigrants is well underway however a meaningful move to reunite those

00:44:09.820 territories with mexico seems unlikely no other immigrant group in the u.s history has asserted or

00:44:14.860 could assert a historical claim to u.s territory mexicans and mexican americans can and do make that claim and

00:44:23.020 they've spoken about the likelihood if anything like that were to happen in the future what would

00:44:27.900 happen is it would become its own independent territory probably called northern mexico or la norte or

00:44:36.460 something it sounded a little bit like the the kind of hamas and al-qaeda view that you just got to

00:44:42.780 out birth the jews in palestine so we'll just out birth the americans make it north america for me

00:44:51.180 about and we'll help that in by mass illegal immigration the funny thing about the historical

00:44:55.420 information given here is uh what the wikipedia page just gave us is an example of i can't say the

00:45:03.100 particular phrase because it will get flagged on youtube but what i'll call the big switcheroo

00:45:09.180 which supposedly isn't happening in europe and america and supposedly even if it were happening would

00:45:15.980 be a good thing because the more diversity the better so what it sounds to me like is that initially

00:45:20.940 california and texas in particular in this case uh experienced a a wealth of diversity

00:45:29.580 flooding into it that should have made the state stronger made the territory stronger but instead

00:45:35.020 pushed the people out who were already there and i thought this was supposed to be a good thing or

00:45:40.540 something that can't happen even if the natural conclusion of it is secession or its own independent

00:45:47.260 but this is this is a thing isn't it one demographic mass demographic change uh up until very recently

00:45:54.220 was just widely recognized as a system of warfare it's what china did to tibet yeah in order to conquer

00:46:00.300 it by moving millions of hang chinese into tibet so that the loyalty would obviously go to china but also

00:46:07.260 as well even if this were there you go even if this were uh if the american government doesn't push back

00:46:14.300 against this and it is simply allowed to continue which of course i pray it doesn't then it means

00:46:20.540 that even if there were some attempted is that connecticut yeah these these are states all across

00:46:25.180 the us where they're they're showing support um again we know that we know the areas where these

00:46:31.420 people are they are showing overt and explicit um uh loyalty to a foreign state one foreign state by the

00:46:41.260 the way that the president uh what was her name shine bomb present is that her name has made explicitly

00:46:48.140 warlike statements towards the u.s at the threat of having taxes on remittances of which mexico mexicans

00:46:55.660 send a huge amount of remittances back to mexico every single year rather than spending them in the

00:47:01.340 u.s economy all of these people showing showing uh loyalty to a foreign hostile state so amazing

00:47:11.340 round them up stephen miller i know you're watching this right now i know you're a huge fan round all of

00:47:17.980 these people up if they love mexico so much you put them back they can go back look at this this this

00:47:24.540 construction site is evidently so mexican that they can take the time off not that i imagine they get that

00:47:30.780 much work done and certainly not none of it very good quality in the first place not that i imagine

00:47:35.500 they get much work done but they've taken what little time they spend doing their work off so

00:47:40.780 they can fly their flag so send a few ice agents around so that they can get picked up and then when

00:47:46.940 you uh say you're going back to mexico buddy they go aye aye aye oh no or more just find out who is

00:47:54.300 actually building the construction site in connecticut find out who is the person that's hiring

00:47:59.740 owns it and hiring all of these and say you've just done that i'm sorry you're fired as a company

00:48:05.180 yes uh but to go back to uh your point harry about the fact that um you know it wasn't the mexicans who

00:48:11.020 called today to california who grew the civilization california they didn't build california and what

00:48:15.820 you'll get if this is allowed to continue is they won't a bit like you know with the british in africa

00:48:21.980 once you leave rhodesia once you leave south africa the basic infrastructure the actual standards of

00:48:27.580 civilization will decline it will california and the rest is already becoming essentially uh closer

00:48:34.780 akin to the standards of mexico which are not particularly high well no and it'll be it'll be

00:48:39.980 controlled by gangsters and criminals within no time at all just as and and then what will happen is that

00:48:46.780 those people who are living in northern mexico will then want to move out to the areas which are nice

00:48:51.980 and safe well that was to america well that was going to be my next point imagine if okay they

00:48:56.780 actually get what they want and all of a sudden they're in charge of that territory all of the

00:49:00.780 people of european other descent asians and um and african americans etc they all move out and they're

00:49:08.620 left in charge of it for maybe the next 177 years as well um are they all still going to want to live

00:49:15.020 there afterwards or is it going to end up just like mexico and they end up moving into the territory

00:49:21.420 that maybe was purchased during the louisiana purchase uh for instance in 1803 uh because uh

00:49:28.940 you know that's where everybody would move back to um and that's where they'd want to go to they

00:49:33.820 would want to start moving east and east and east going give me your free money give me your jobs so

00:49:39.900 that i can undercut your wages and then send it back to the people in new more if you look at that

00:49:44.860 going back to there they purchased louisiana from the french yeah isn't that then saying and using

00:49:50.780 their argument that the french now should be able to go and live in louisiana and just take over

00:49:56.140 louisiana people of french extract do live there um but you know they do so legally for the most part

00:50:03.020 that means that we sitting here today we we can go to like maryland and we can go and take over

00:50:08.620 there because that's ours you know it's about time we go back there uh i'd love a little chunk

00:50:14.140 of martha's vineyard for myself and maybe uh the dutch can make it new amsterdam again yeah absolutely

00:50:19.740 and we just go all the way back to that and i'll find some like someone who's mexican who lives in a

00:50:24.380 really big house on martha's vineyard and i'll say oh op it this is mine it's english because we were here

00:50:30.940 first and and again if sounds reasonable to me if the arguments that they're making are true uh the

00:50:36.780 argument that's being implied by um comrade cisco here is that mexico sold california to americans

00:50:46.620 and then all of the mexicans who were already there just stayed there forever uh but the fact

00:50:52.460 of the matter is that if that was the case then there weren't very many there to begin with because

00:50:57.740 in 1850 there was less than 100 000 people there and it was upon the discovery of the california gold in

00:51:05.900 the rivers that led to the california gold rush that meant that people moved there meaning that

00:51:10.780 if you look over the demographics over time in 1850 it's 99 white and then by the time you get to

00:51:18.940 1910 you start to see the separation out of hispanics from the white population so white is still 95 in

00:51:27.740 1910 hovers around 95 percent all the way up until 1950 then it slowly begins to go down and something

00:51:37.340 happened until yeah it starts 1980 shift to 1980 between 1960 and 1980 the white population goes down

00:51:47.740 by 16 percent the hispanic population shoots up over 10 percent and then it just keeps going and going and

00:51:55.820 going until you reach 2020 and it's 41.2 percent with 40 percent hispanics and i think it has

00:52:04.940 gotten worse since then because if i go down here i think the list right underneath it is non-hispanic

00:52:11.260 white so you can see by the time you get to 2020 bloody hell wikipedia what are you doing you're killing

00:52:17.420 me right now jesus christ apologies folks i really didn't mean for that to happen uh here we go we're

00:52:24.300 back to it i believe no this is other demographics and it's all highlighted as well now thank you very

00:52:30.380 much screen for doing this to me either way the non-hispanic white population of california has become

00:52:37.820 a minority of those who are classified as white in the state because it was about 34 percent whereas now

00:52:46.460 here we go here we go yes it was uh and it's and it's even gone all the way back over to the left

00:52:53.900 here we go 34.7 that was 2020 then so yes been another census in the last five years there's no

00:53:00.300 doubt that the mexican must have taken over the white yes they they have massively overtaken and the question

00:53:06.300 is why is that and well i would say like many of the consequences of mass immigration like much of the

00:53:14.300 consequences of mass immigration into america it can be traced mainly back to the heart seller act of

00:53:20.220 1965 which is the immigration act that was uh that changed there where in this article is very

00:53:28.220 interesting because it goes into some of the unintended consequences of the u.s immigration policy

00:53:33.100 explaining all of this because it's not just the removal of quotas it's a lot of the other factors

00:53:38.060 that came into it as well and it's got some interesting graphs that i'll look at in a moment

00:53:41.180 so they say the year 1965 is often cited as a turning point in history of u.s immigration but

00:53:46.860 what happened in the ensuing years is not well understood amendments to the immigration and

00:53:50.940 nationality act passed in that year repealed the nation national origins quotas which had been

00:53:55.500 enacted during the 1920s in a deliberate attempt to limit the entry of southern and eastern european

00:54:00.540 immigrants more specifically jews from the russian pale of settlement and catholics from poland and

00:54:05.260 italy groups at the time deemed unassimilar unassimilable the quotas supplemented prohibitions

00:54:12.060 already in place that effectively banned the entry of asians and africans now i found another article

00:54:16.620 talking about this uh where it's very interesting because it actually didn't just add in those

00:54:21.260 quotas it changed the rules of how national origin was determined so it was that you could only have two

00:54:27.660 percent of any of whatever the total population of any national origin was in america at the time

00:54:34.060 admitted into the country as of the as set by the census of 1890 so they pushed back the census

00:54:41.340 data that they're going for so that they could again restrict it more to a northwest european thing

00:54:45.740 but they changed the rules of how the national origin was determined to increase the potential

00:54:50.140 quota of british people who were admitted into the country as well because of course most americans

00:54:56.140 especially at that time would have been descended from the british settlers so they said okay if you

00:55:00.140 descended from a british settler we can't use a british american which means that we can

00:55:03.980 increase the proportion of british people that can come into the country so not only was it an

00:55:09.100 attempt to keep america northwest european it was actually an attempt to keep america more specifically

00:55:14.620 british as well which i found very interesting it isn't something interesting element i'm just kind

00:55:19.740 of pondering those stats where you go it shows that the percentage of mexicans have risen in terms of

00:55:26.620 the population in california and the percentage of white brits or white americans has declined it

00:55:33.340 doesn't say the kind of gross numbers is it kind of like the gross numbers of the the white british or

00:55:39.820 white americans that are in california has actually just declined slowly because of like childbirth

00:55:45.740 the vast number of mexicans have come in because of mass immigration uh i think there will have been

00:55:50.220 some emigration outflow of the white americans from california because california is a state that

00:55:56.140 experiences a lot of interstate immigration and emigration in the first place we saw a mass exodus

00:56:02.220 after california was revealed everybody realized that it's a complete asshole all at once so a lot of

00:56:10.140 america white liberal americans moved over to texas and other red states to the blue cities uh there for

00:56:16.860 instance but there are multiple factors but one of the interesting things that it mentions here was

00:56:20.700 that the 1965 changes changed up the uh quotas for added for the first time quotas within the western

00:56:28.540 hemisphere which hadn't existed before to 120 000 people per year which should have actually restricted

00:56:36.780 a bit more of the latin american migration but it grew anyway because of people bringing their family

00:56:45.020 members over which was something that was permitted by the 1986 change uh under reagan right the

00:56:50.940 immigration laws and also the fact that at the same time they repealed some law that allowed mexicans

00:56:57.900 and latin americans to get temporary work visas to come into the country at which point all the mexicans

00:57:04.620 all decided at once well screw you we'll come into the country anyway in that case we'll just do it

00:57:10.380 illegally so you can see the temporary migration on this graph shoots down it just plummets it plummets

00:57:16.860 whereas the illegal immigrants skyrockets while legal immigrants just stayed the same basically stays

00:57:23.420 yeah same here and then of course when you've got all the legal illegals coming in 1986 comes along

00:57:30.860 reagan gives them the uh yeah the amnesty and all of a sudden that's just an even greater

00:57:37.420 encouragement although we don't see the figures go uh shoot up we do see them go down but only to

00:57:45.500 uh maybe half the level they were at their peak but even then this is only going up to 1995 so we

00:57:52.380 know that under biden the figures shot they shot up again i mean although that has been changed and

00:57:57.900 the thing is all of these changes the changes to the immigration act in 1965 were as you would expect

00:58:04.860 from a totally legitimate democratic system uh completely lied about to sell to the american

00:58:11.660 people and to sell to the senate themselves newly elected senator ted kennedy who served as the floor

00:58:17.820 leader for the bill assured his colleagues before they passed it that our cities will not be flooded

00:58:22.380 with a million immigrants annually and the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset contrary to

00:58:27.580 the charges in some quarters the bill will not inundate america with immigrants from any one country or

00:58:32.380 area or the most populated and economically deprived nations of africa and asia so that was a lie well

00:58:38.780 the honest pitch was never gonna fly was it yeah so that's some of the history and context and given

00:58:46.140 what's going on in america right now in la uh i can only hope that people continue to be deported who

00:58:53.580 shouldn't be in the country and again stephen miller if you're watching this which i know that you are

00:58:57.900 these people seem like prime candidates they love mexico they won't mind i'm sure you love mexico so

00:59:05.980 much i'm sure you've got great construction opportunities down there all right let's go

00:59:12.220 through the rumble rants for that segment okay so logan uh i'll read oh sure logan pine says the la

00:59:19.820 mayor organization organized a press conference to try to emotionally blackmail us that's the only tactic

00:59:25.580 they know that's a random name imagine being mexican couldn't be me lol the engaged few

00:59:31.100 referring to the dumpling that we saw on screen says her phenotype is chocolate milk

00:59:37.500 a rare one but true alex adamson 55 a few people who spoke my language milled around on this land one

00:59:43.180 time so you need to give me the fruits of your labor that we could never replicate is what i'm getting

00:59:47.580 from this yes yes many many foreign populations make this argument uh in america and canada uh

00:59:55.660 b chain 315 says i'm from connecticut you see people flying flags of foreign nations everywhere

01:00:00.140 my hometown is only 40 000 people but has a huge haitian and dominican population can't wait till my

01:00:05.740 town burns down yeah that sounds like a powder keg if you ask me and logan pine again mass immigration

01:00:10.620 has drained imagine haitians and dominicans next to each other in one small town of 40 000 people

01:00:15.900 yeah that's not great a favorite football match that they have yeah but remember in south america

01:00:20.300 ted kennedy told everybody that the changes to the laws wouldn't affect anything to do with the

01:00:25.340 demographic makeup of america so we can't i can't call ted kennedy a liar can we or an idiot whichever

01:00:31.980 one you think is better for his reputation mass immigration has drained mexico dry the mexican

01:00:36.700 elites want immigration as it drains the country of the people who would revolt and overthrow them

01:00:41.100 yeah i remember razor fist making that argument a long while ago actually i'd be interested to

01:00:46.220 see how that would work out if they tried it not that i would ever advocate revolt for anywhere

01:00:53.020 of course well ladies and gentlemen it is a day of the week and that means that the british state

01:00:58.940 is betraying us once again uh obviously as you've probably heard by now there's been a recent

01:01:04.620 agreement made between the labor government and the eu and this means that we are in all but name

01:01:12.060 handing over the borders and security of gibraltar to the eu to those peoples that stephen i could have

01:01:20.300 swore blind we were trying to get away from their their overreach uh we were i mean i i think there was

01:01:26.380 something called a vote um a referendum that said that we actually wanted to be an independent uh nation

01:01:32.460 outside of the european union controlling our own borders and one of them was take back control yes

01:01:37.500 and one of those would be take back control of our borders it didn't say take back control of our

01:01:42.220 borders get rid of chagos and give the spanish the opportunity to tell you who can or can't come

01:01:47.660 into gibraltar by the way and and i didn't see that on on the ballot paper no didn't see that argued

01:01:53.580 by anyone in fact they argued the opposite but hey could have done with a bit more urbanism yeah yeah

01:01:59.580 if i was uncharged that's what you would have exactly got but then we got boris uh so before

01:02:05.340 i go on i should just alert you all to the fact that we actually have a new documentary for the

01:02:09.820 channel this is carl's brilliant the death of man in which he basically chronicles the uh history of

01:02:16.460 the enlightenment and philosophical thought and looks at how we have been disenchanted of the world

01:02:23.500 that our ancestors once saw as mystical and uh spiritual and something that has broken us down

01:02:32.380 into a very materialistic people who are basically kind of lost of destiny and meaning and so i'd

01:02:40.300 thoroughly recommend that you uh give it a watch it's uh very very compelling and from there i will

01:02:47.100 continue on with gibraltar so with some context as to the history of britain and gibraltar there was a

01:02:57.020 time i know it's not in our lifetime of course but there was there was a time when britain was actually

01:03:03.660 cool and kicked ass around the world and one of the wars i don't believe it well one of the wars in

01:03:09.980 which we did it was one called the war of the spanish succession in which we took gibraltar it

01:03:15.980 was a giant anglo-dutch effort and we took gibraltar from the spanish in that war and that was in 1704

01:03:23.820 and then the treaty of ulrich at the end end of that war in 1713 officially ceded the territory of

01:03:30.540 gibraltar to us and we have held on to it ever since for over three centuries we weren't bad friends

01:03:37.020 with the dutch at the time i remember just before that in this mid 1600s we actually stuck around

01:03:41.820 with the dutch and kicked the french out in brussels uh no so bruges and from that we got gin

01:03:47.900 favorite pastime yeah we've had a bit of a roller coaster relationship with the dutch

01:03:53.580 certainly have so this you have dutch

01:03:59.100 so but they um it comes back to uh what you were saying in your segment harry about

01:04:03.900 who civilized this place you know who who built it who built it because the fact of the matter is

01:04:09.740 that the spanish obviously had their their own reconquista against the moors in spain and so

01:04:15.980 they finally permanently regained gibraltar from the from the muslim moors about 1500 and then held on to

01:04:24.140 it for about two centuries and then we have owned gibraltar now it's been our sovereign territory for

01:04:30.140 over three centuries yeah and so we've had it a lot longer and we've managed it very very well and

01:04:37.100 that's not just me being uh jingoistically you know uh nonsensical it's the fact that when you came to

01:04:44.220 the 2002 uh referendum that gibraltar had 98 of them the gibraltarians decided that they wanted to stay as a

01:04:53.660 sovereign part of britain yeah but they kind of flashbacks to the falklands here mm-hmm but you

01:04:59.660 know they they did kick us in the teeth of the uh brexit referendum didn't they they did so yes this

01:05:05.660 was well that's the brexit i was just about to come to that okay so then you had uh gibraltar did vote 95

01:05:13.260 uh well 0.9 if i'm going to be pedantic yeah in order to remain absolutely they did and i can understand

01:05:19.020 that from their perspective they cut off from the mainland they have anxieties about you know what

01:05:23.900 would what it would mean for the borders going forward well they've got it now well they have

01:05:29.500 got it now and i've heard alongside us you know and you got it properly and we've got a proper brexit

01:05:35.740 and people in charge would have done it this wouldn't be happening but you know you go all week yes well

01:05:41.900 i suppose that's the thing isn't it because david lammy is a man who exudes weakness oh i was going to say

01:05:46.940 if you weren't weak david lammy and so naturally when it was announced that the uh david lammy was

01:05:52.940 going to visit gibraltar for a post-brexit deal with spain you can understand why we all decided

01:05:59.740 to get a bit nervous it wasn't exactly unfounded was it no and all we could do was was wait with

01:06:05.100 bated breath and see what was going to come out of all of this how bad it was going to be and then

01:06:10.620 we found out so lammy obviously sees this as an absolute win says that gibraltar's economy and

01:06:17.020 way of life uh was under threat i'll come back to what that threat was a little later in the segment

01:06:23.020 but he says we've secured a practical solution which safeguards sovereignty jobs and growth working

01:06:28.460 in lockstep lockstep with fabian picardo uh we've ensured gibraltar's interests as part of the uk

01:06:35.900 family are at the heart of this agreement so what is that agreement well as it turns out this agreement

01:06:45.900 actually i'll just move on to this one uh for the case of time the agreement involves certain things

01:06:53.660 that uh uk will uh political agreement so we will continue to have autonomy over the military base

01:07:01.820 on gibraltar however one of the key things is that we have essentially handed over security

01:07:09.340 all of the border security to the eu to foreigners right so that means that's put us in a position

01:07:15.740 where now uh someone coming from britain from the mainland if you want to go and visit a british

01:07:21.980 sovereign territory you're going to have your your passport checked by people uh from the eu the

01:07:31.580 eu now in all but name controls i feel like we need to get on a quick flight down to gibraltar

01:07:39.100 with our passports and deliberately just go see whether they won't let us in yes yeah well so here's

01:07:45.660 the thing the population of gibraltar is about 40 000 right it's just a little bit below that and about

01:07:51.980 38 percent of the people in gibraltar about 15 000 uh cross that border every day that hard border

01:07:59.820 between gibraltar and spain yeah in order to get to work just coming and going as it is now this has

01:08:06.620 worked perfectly fine for quite a long while but you see when david lammy talks about threats uh that

01:08:13.740 you know are going to upset that equilibrium well these are threats from our beloved european allies

01:08:20.220 because the eu has a new border system which is the entry exit system the ees yeah that it's putting

01:08:28.540 forward which was going to be a digital biometric system in order to as it says speed up and assess

01:08:37.820 and track people around europe so that they can tell who's outstaying their welcome who's in what

01:08:45.260 place at what time and they'll have all of your information on the database uh as a basically a form of

01:08:51.660 digital id a digital passport it is and so spain yes there was this whole so there was this exasperation

01:09:00.940 with um uh anxiousness with spain trying to slam down the schengen shutters now it's no secret that

01:09:08.620 spain has wanted gibraltar for a long long time right so any any deal that is beneficial to the eu

01:09:17.260 and thereby beneficial to spain is naturally the spanish wouldn't agree to anything if they didn't

01:09:25.020 see it as a small step towards using you know the soft encroachment of taking gibraltar back for the

01:09:32.540 spanish government yeah i just wind them up i'd give it morocco so you said it okay you know you guys

01:09:38.060 open borders with morocco you can have it here's yours you know conquista two electric exactly

01:09:43.660 i loved electric boogaloo so yes this obviously as i said means that there'll be a hard uh hard

01:09:53.020 border with europe and the uh britons will now have to have their passports checked and this all

01:09:59.980 obviously comes off the back of the chagos deal as well and so the fact that this was given away for

01:10:08.460 essentially woke brownie points with the international elites which from the best that i could dig

01:10:13.420 into it really did just seem to be what it was all down to yeah uh obviously brings about the

01:10:18.700 fact that there is no slight there is no erosion of our status of our power what little power we

01:10:27.500 actually have left a second top soft power in the world apparently and what a comfort it is

01:10:35.900 if that's so much international influence is that soft power then i'd hate to see what hard power is to

01:10:40.860 be honest i sleep peacefully at night knowing knowing that the british state has made us number

01:10:46.620 two in soft power around the world it gives me such so much so to see that chagos has gone gibraltar's

01:10:52.940 gone and and those of you who are listening all the way down in the forklands be prepared that you're

01:10:59.340 going back to argentina but the only good thing i would say is that the moment you're joining an argentina

01:11:04.540 that is doing a lot more than we are in our country one other thing also just to mention with

01:11:10.460 this that is worth bringing up is because of the entry exit system that the eu are intending to

01:11:15.980 implement come october november they keep pushing it back oddly enough these bureaucrats can't seem to

01:11:21.580 just hit a deadline but then i suppose neither can we um but the nature of bureaucracy yeah well but we're the

01:11:28.540 bureaucrats too so this um the uh system is going to be that there's going to be a short stay which

01:11:35.660 means that those traveling can go for 90 days out of 180 day period but if so if a british person wants

01:11:44.300 to visit gibraltar then that system is going to be enforced now by the eu themselves and so the eu

01:11:52.620 will decide how long theoretically i don't it's the fact that this is all obviously up in the air

01:11:58.300 nothing's been ratified yet you know this this deal theoretically i could go to gibraltar and have

01:12:02.860 to be kicked out after 180 days this is the point yes and you're trusting the eu to basically just let

01:12:09.180 you come and go as a british citizen wouldn't trust the eu on this point as far as i could throw them no

01:12:13.660 you have you have some experience on this front absolutely so it's a phrase you speak with what

01:12:21.980 is it we're talking about american reconquisters you speak with fort tonk so i suppose the only

01:12:29.100 the question that now ends up on everyone's minds is well you've given away chagos unnecessarily without

01:12:35.980 provocation without mandate yeah and you've essentially conceded the border borders of gibraltar as well

01:12:42.780 yeah how long before we concede on the falklands you know that that war that we fought to defend

01:12:47.900 its sovereign it as a british sovereign territory which is still within living memory yeah it is i

01:12:54.380 mean i remember it and certainly i i would now get down onto the bookies and see if you can put some

01:12:59.340 good odds on because the falklands are going there's no doubt about it they'll have that if labor stays

01:13:04.940 in they'll find some sort of deal to offload it as well quickly well the question is like any of these

01:13:09.980 things i suppose when it comes to a question like the british sovereignty of gibraltar does the british

01:13:17.580 state more care more about holding it than the spanish state cares about acquiring it and i would

01:13:25.180 suggest that the spanish state cares about taking it more than we our parliament cares about holding on

01:13:31.100 to it yeah and i would suggest exactly the same about what's melee would be more interested in taking

01:13:36.940 it than our parliament really cares about maintaining it and what and what is the importance of gibraltar

01:13:43.100 to us as a piece of rock it's a military base and why is it important for military base because

01:13:48.780 the seaways getting across into africa we lose that we lose global influence with the united states

01:13:56.860 and in our our four eyes principles because we've got some listening posts and bases that we can put people

01:14:03.740 in they can get into africa spanish would love to have that and say we're now the key people that can

01:14:08.620 do that and the same with uh the falklands the falklands are a key point for looking at the resources

01:14:14.060 and research that's down down in that area of the world and we lose that then we lose a whole chunk of

01:14:21.180 influence on that and the argentinians would gain it so it's about losing influence and losing power and

01:14:26.540 you lose these things as a chip by chip then you lose influence globally so no one's going to look at you

01:14:33.420 more significantly just because you hold the land we have a license to go to chagos the americans

01:14:38.300 are going to say you're paying for it and mauritians are going hey thanks very much for tax-free life

01:14:43.820 but we just got it there we're no longer seen as influence about that we're just seen as weak

01:14:48.620 well we are weak that's right we're weak and we're led by weak people so yeah i mean obviously this

01:14:54.540 particular article i pulled up is just to do with british airways calling the falcons by its spanish name

01:15:00.540 but it speaks to i i will consider it as an omen of things to come a poor portent

01:15:07.340 of the future and so yeah uh obviously so how did the ba call it was it on the flight itself i uh

01:15:16.140 i've i think they're having an internal investigation into how it happened but yes it was on one of their

01:15:22.780 flights vive la malvinas yes so yeah it was one of the port it was paul stanley that it came up with

01:15:29.420 the sp whatever the spanish name paul stanley was oh my word yes i mean that's not easy puerto argentino

01:15:37.020 oh my word and that's on the board yeah so uh yeah sorry about all this with uh gibraltar another day in

01:15:45.740 the life under labor and just sort of the treasonous uh british establishment uh obviously nothing's

01:15:53.260 set in stone yet but um between our parliament and the gibraltarian one i don't see this turning back

01:16:00.700 into our favor but i suppose time will tell well it's clearly when you've got fabio i mean i mean i

01:16:07.100 met fabio picard and you did the gibraltar man i just it quiz link is all i could ever think about

01:16:15.900 them that in particularly individual in the way that he represented uh the people of of gibraltar i

01:16:23.020 mean for him he was just about simply how can i cling on to the european union with any kind of funding

01:16:30.860 and ideology but oh i still want to have part my cake and eat it by being part of the uk rather than

01:16:36.220 standing strong this is not the sort of person that we would have put in charge of there in the

01:16:40.220 1700s in the 1700s we would put some sort of like naval officer in there who said this is britain

01:16:46.780 we're going to defend it with all our costs not someone who was twiddling around little rooms and

01:16:51.100 ignoring those people who are in the parliament who actually believed in his in his little island

01:16:56.540 that he was in charge of being part of the uk and having a very important role yes even much

01:17:01.100 happy just cozy up with all the others why i don't know where there's certain levels of funding that

01:17:06.460 they enjoyed on a particular level for organizations that he friends family contacts people who influence

01:17:13.020 him might have had goodness knows one would never have thought that in anything to do with a year

01:17:18.220 no quite true i'll uh i'll just conscious time so i'll move on to some of these comments so uh alex

01:17:24.060 adamson says uh time to reactivate hms victory and summon the ghost of nelson we're going to war with

01:17:30.540 they yes yes i feel like a good bit of war with the spanish is a war that i could get behind

01:17:38.940 for old time's sake of course uh logan the 17 pine uh says mass immigration oh there's one from your

01:17:45.740 segment yeah so oh yeah yeah that's the same one actually it just was still highlighted that's fine

01:17:50.540 cool let's uh go to the video comments

01:17:52.700 good afternoon gentlemen here we are at patriot park at the college of the ozones

01:18:08.460 as carl has observed in the united states we take our patriotism we take our veterans quite seriously

01:18:16.780 very nice indeed

01:18:29.740 this is um

01:18:34.300 that's magnificent yeah ceiling in particular just trying to say where sure i've been there

01:18:39.500 i don't think i've been there i saw i went to a nice um cathedral recently in in france in the

01:18:45.980 dordogne area in a town called salat which had this a magnificent look to it but also right above the

01:18:52.540 entranceway doors there was a organ set into the wall right above the entranceway it was really

01:18:59.660 magnificent to see super there are some fabulous cathedrals in france oh yeah must visit more of them

01:19:07.020 i had heard good things about friedrich hayek and decided to read the constitution of liberty

01:19:11.740 my opinion is to warn the audience about this book born an austrian who later added british

01:19:16.380 citizenship it was a mistake for hayek to end up identifying as a whig type liberal

01:19:21.340 he's a european progressive through and through he's superb analyzing what constitutes free nations

01:19:26.860 and the rules they require perforce to ensure liberty is maintained but his clarion call that

01:19:31.820 governments must govern by principle flies in the face of the english model that created the whigs

01:19:38.460 i've not read the constitution of liberty i did read road to serfdom many many years ago

01:19:43.580 i do have a copy of the constitution of liberty uh i dare not read it because i did read the road

01:19:48.460 to serfdom and wanted to claw my eyes out of boredom uh frankly he is he is not the most dynamic

01:19:56.060 writer in the world and road to serfdom is this thick constitution of liberty is this thick

01:20:02.060 so i'm not interested sadly although thank you alex for speaking about the book and putting yourself

01:20:09.020 through that yes okay um i was just thinking once again about those uh fairy tales and yeah it sucks

01:20:16.300 that the originals are out of print but one of the things that also occurred to me is that the original

01:20:21.100 stories are also public domain so oh yeah if we wanted to write our own versions or at least use

01:20:29.740 the original versions there's probably an artist in the lotus eaters viewership who could do some

01:20:34.220 really good illustrations you got a really good publisher yeah there you go ah well any artists and

01:20:41.740 i know we've got a few in the audience who are interested get in touch with uh get in touch with

01:20:46.300 old craig eh have we got any more no that's it let's go through the uh written comments on the

01:20:54.380 website then uh would you like to read your own steven right i'm gonna try and get on to that uh this

01:20:59.900 first comment for some reason is for uh lucas oh yes i'll just read this here then uh jethro evans uh

01:21:07.180 says gibraltar has voted twice to stay british 67 and 2002 uh yeah 99 both times said no

01:21:15.260 uh if uh stammer's government is negotiating spanish control over borders or governance it's

01:21:21.020 ignoring democracy and betraying gibraltarians i know but uh the truth is they don't care about

01:21:26.620 democracy okay is this mind the thing scotty of swindon there won't be any attempt to expand europe's

01:21:34.300 territory i mean eurovision includes israel and australia expansion is occurring i've got to admit that

01:21:41.020 didn't they also want to get like tajikistan and all the stands into the eurovision as well

01:21:47.420 this year or something like that it'll become the eurasian song competition won't it the europe

01:21:52.620 eu's treatment of orban you're gonna have to unfortunately the problem about here is the

01:21:57.340 lights come in on an angle i can't see it very well so maybe i can if you can read them from me

01:22:01.820 that'd be great i'm afraid uh yeah thanks scotty uh the eu's treatment of orban really smacks of

01:22:06.780 you're on this council but we do not grant you the rank of master uh the eu might want to check

01:22:12.060 how all that ended for the jedi council why is it that hungary remains in the eu seeing as orban is so

01:22:18.540 opposed to it by the sounds of it uh obviously with britain we had brexit so why didn't hungary do

01:22:24.380 something similar well the odd thing is they'll vote for the orban but they're still quite supportive

01:22:29.180 of membership of the eu for some reason and so i i think part of this break that he's trying to do

01:22:35.660 is trying to create a language and a division into the country that says it's eu or us and so that

01:22:42.860 if they ever get to the referendum stage that he knows that they can win it uh colin p says the uh

01:22:51.180 the rather bellicose attitude of the eu towards russia ukraine strikes me as somewhat ironic given

01:22:56.620 that one of the reasons for creating it in the first place was supposed to be um to lessen the risk of war

01:23:02.620 uh then when he said about uh eurovision having israel and australia so expansion occurring with uh

01:23:11.260 with the eu i mean australia is like it's british as far as i'm concerned uh in the first place israel

01:23:19.100 was also established with hefty support from america and europe anyway so and most of the israelis

01:23:25.900 the ashkenazis at least are going to be descended from uh polish and other eastern european jews so

01:23:30.940 there is an argument to be made there just imagining sometime in the 22nd century just one of that

01:23:37.660 european nation going to war and it's just written in the treaty at the end it's like and for your

01:23:42.780 unconditional surrender we will allow you to participate in the eurovision yeah and i'm just

01:23:47.420 being like right sign that for some reason i think you're right that eurovision is basically used as a

01:23:52.220 tool of international diplomacy in that way isn't it it's their soft power but it's more successful

01:23:59.260 which is ridiculous because you'd never want to be caught on stage with half those performances

01:24:03.420 i still don't watch it though i've attended a few eurovision parties in my time but i've only ever

01:24:09.500 been there for the drinks and you know that you do the thing where you all pick a name out of a hat

01:24:14.220 and that's your one and if you get it you put a couple of quid in you get the pass at the end of

01:24:18.460 it if your team wins your country wins uh i never won it no no i was i was forced this year daughters

01:24:25.820 12 wanted to see it there with my partner both of them and the gratefulness that i felt when towards

01:24:31.740 the end they turned around and said we can't watch anymore let's let's go much more and i'm going it's

01:24:37.260 time for bed most of the time like music's terrible just like get better artists on it maybe when people

01:24:43.180 came in and go i am from lithuanian you've got null points here are the points of the joy and there's

01:24:49.340 people trying to dress up as though they're just coming out of a style star wars weird character

01:24:53.740 the outfits they are how freaky they could be well that's the band that one that was relatively

01:24:57.900 interesting was that band lord the rock and roll band that went up dressed as if they were all like

01:25:03.180 weird demonic orcs or something they were at least interesting vaguely remember that vaguely remember

01:25:08.700 that uh brian tomlinson says communists controlling western countries hate borders except borders that

01:25:15.020 allow you to leave the country and borders at your front door after a ccp bioweapon attack

01:25:22.140 okay all right do you want to read through yours harry uh yeah sure sophie live only real answer here if

01:25:27.340 you want it come and take it do a real proper invasion so america can defend itself take it try in the

01:25:32.380 honorable uh in in the honorable we're coming with tanks kind of way not this womanly ooh look at me i'm so

01:25:38.380 oppressed you have to give it to me way seriously so many of our problems would be solved if we

01:25:42.780 agreed to traditional war honor rules you want london with bangladeshi signs come and take it

01:25:47.740 art what you're what you're referring there to sophie is an age of honor and heroism which is

01:25:54.620 sadly long behind us now um the proletariat says to be fair we bought california at gunpoint we won a

01:26:02.780 war took the land gave the mexican government some money and called it a purchase it would be like a

01:26:06.700 carjacker dropping an envelope full of money at your feet as he drives away in your car well to

01:26:11.020 be fair if the envelope full of money is um about the price of the car then it's kind of even uh in

01:26:18.460 what you're describing there at the top um is conquest and in fact it was rather gracious of

01:26:23.980 america to give them money for mexico in the first place because if they won a war you don't actually

01:26:28.860 have to give them anything because they've lost i would imagine it was to ensure kind of a no hard

01:26:35.500 feelings agreement but evidently there are still hard feelings so really i think what america should

01:26:42.860 do calculate how much that money would be now for inflation and ask for it back from the mexican

01:26:50.380 government that would be good let's see how that goes chance bell you can't kick us mexicans out of

01:26:55.580 the land that was ours like the spanish did arizona desert rat a family being close does not mean that

01:27:01.180 they are good people look at the mafia they're usually tight-knit families but commit some of

01:27:05.260 the worst crimes this is true michael joe belbis mexico can barely run its own country how do they

01:27:11.340 expect to run a bigger nation excellent question small l libertarian my favorite part about mexico

01:27:17.100 seeding california to the us is that the spanish empire was based so much around finding gold then

01:27:21.980 they lost mexico and mexico sold that land that had the majority of gold on it very true let's go over

01:27:29.260 to yours all right uh safely live says uh so let me get this straight europe can decide who can come

01:27:35.900 and who can stay at gibraltar but you can't decide who comes and who can stay in england that's not

01:27:42.220 true that's not true the british state does decide who can come and stay in england it just so happens

01:27:46.940 that they always agree that anyone can yes it's everyone right it's totally intentional uh lord

01:27:52.300 nerovers says the gibraltar issue is possibly the worst thing this government has done so far

01:27:57.580 starmer seems determined to sever as many parts of our country as he can no matter how important and

01:28:03.660 historic they may be next he'll be seeding yorkshire to norway because of historic injustices i tell you

01:28:09.980 what if he does that i'll be the first one fighting um zombie philip the undead duke of edinburgh great

01:28:18.460 name uh i don't think uh they'll get rid of the falklands mainly due to the oil and gas deposits there

01:28:24.300 uh why the hell would we give something away that has tremendous growth especially with it's uh

01:28:29.820 thousands of miles away from britain well yeah but then also why don't the government sees all the

01:28:34.540 natural oil and gas that's right next door to us as well and even under our feet if they're not doing

01:28:39.580 it where we are no then i think they're regarded to care about it even less thousands i heard it's

01:28:45.660 more about the rare minerals that are actually on the on that part of the lands rather than the oil and

01:28:49.820 gas now uh alpha of the betas says there's no such thing as soft power there is hard power and

01:28:55.660 restraint and that restraint is called soft power one doesn't exist without the implicit threat of

01:29:01.500 the other pretty much agree with that based uh thane scotty of swindon fun fact gibraltar has been

01:29:07.020 the british territory at 1704 uh longer than scotland has that is a good point yeah i haven't

01:29:12.620 that's a good point actually yeah yeah i didn't all right we've had two more rumble rants come in

01:29:20.300 alex adamson said true gone are the days of if you want my land kill me for it and reese jam piece

01:29:26.780 says los angeles paris balamena salford as lucas said yesterday the fires of isengard shall spread

01:29:33.500 where does salford come into this salford had any you know big riots recently uh i can't remember i will i

01:29:40.380 mean i lived in salford for a bit and i was living right next to the police station so judging by

01:29:45.340 ever by how many sirens i heard maybe there is constant riots going on there so you're you're a

01:29:50.140 refugee there have been riots in the last two days thank you i'll look into that i'm gonna have to

01:29:55.420 look into that strange ways broken loose or something no i didn't i didn't pick that up at

01:29:59.980 all yeah no well we're coming up to the end now ladies and gents so thank you very much for joining us

01:30:05.580 and i do believe it will be common sense crusade in half an hour so if you'd like to you can join

01:30:11.660 in with calvin for that and until then we'll see you this time uh 1 a 1 pm tomorrow thank you for your

01:30:19.260 time take care bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 12, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1185

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