The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1233

00:00:00.000 Who are the men that pick for scraps amongst the ruins at the end of history? You should

00:00:09.760 know, because you encounter them every day. Between the towering buildings of a fallen

00:00:14.560 empire, we find the Fellaheen, the historyless men, who know nothing of the turning of the

00:00:20.880 cosmic wheel and find themselves outside of civilisation itself. Cut loose from the great

00:00:27.120 chain of being, they represent the low into which our dying culture will return. That is,

00:00:34.080 unless we choose to take up the burden once again. This Fellaheen condition is the subject we explore

00:00:42.160 in issue 4 of Islander Magazine. On sale, while stocks last, and available worldwide at shop.loadseaters.com.

00:00:50.320 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters episode 1233 for Tuesday the 19th of August

00:00:59.120 2025. I'm your host Luca, joined today by Beau and Josh. Hello. How are you both today?

00:01:05.440 Yeah, good thanks. Cheery. Good. I'm very good.

00:01:08.800 Good. Well, your segment gives us reasons for optimism, doesn't it?

00:01:12.880 Yes, I've come back as a ray of hope, and that is...

00:01:17.920 That's what you're at, the office's little ray of hope, aren't you, Josh?

00:01:21.120 I'd like to think so.

00:01:23.040 Well, for Josh's segment, we're going to be talking about the English raising the colours,

00:01:26.960 we're then going to be talking about the very latest Ukraine nothing burger,

00:01:31.840 and then we're going to be talking about the seeming arrival of the Gazan refugees. So, with all that

00:01:39.520 said, Josh, over to you. Okay, there's been a welcome trend in basically England, I would say,

00:01:47.040 that's where I've seen it, of people flying the flag, going out of their way to raise the flag in

00:01:52.960 lots of different places, mainly on lampposts. And it's good, it's a very organic thing, it doesn't

00:01:58.400 seem to have been necessarily orchestrated, just a sudden outpouring of patriotism, which, you know,

00:02:05.360 although that's not going to change the fate of Britain or anything, the second order effects are

00:02:11.600 quite important, and we're going to discuss them, because I think actually, in terms of optics and

00:02:18.560 how it can potentially force the government to make errors, that it's actually a very good and

00:02:25.440 sort of sound move. But first, another thing that is a good and sound move is picking up a copy of

00:02:32.480 Islander magazine. As always, it's beautiful. I mean, look at how beautiful it is. It's one of the

00:02:40.080 best magazines that's out there. I wish I could do a Trump impression. It's also quite affordable.

00:02:46.480 It's physical. It even smells nice. It's organic. It is. Organic produce. And no matter how much

00:02:52.960 internet censorship we get in Britain, they'll never be able to take this away from you. So get it while

00:02:58.000 you still can. With that out of the way, let's go to Birmingham, shall we? Which is a sentence I've

00:03:04.160 never said before. But here we are. This is surprisingly patriotic for Britain. You know,

00:03:12.480 you do see the flags flying, but there's one on pretty much every lamppost. Things look neat and

00:03:17.040 tidy, because obviously this is a white enclave, let's be honest. It doesn't look like the other

00:03:22.400 parts of Birmingham. It's got to be a sort of middle class suburb, right? But it's good to see

00:03:28.240 this sort of thing. And this is where I think it all started in Birmingham of all places. England's

00:03:33.280 second city, also known for being very Islamic and Indian as well. Beginning in the least likely place

00:03:40.480 in Britain. It has. Or is it? It actually makes it more likely, like perhaps counter-intuitively,

00:03:48.560 where the people have been most repressed and downtrodden. Well, I mean, that makes more sense,

00:03:54.720 really, because, you know, obviously Birmingham, people have been pushed out of the areas that they

00:03:59.680 used to live in, ancestrally speaking. People in Epping and Essex more generally are much further

00:04:06.800 along than the rest of the country. And that's because a lot of them are exiled from London.

00:04:11.200 They've seen the change that's happened. And this is a natural reaction to that, as well as this being

00:04:16.160 an extension of the protests against migration and the migrant hotels in particular. Here's another

00:04:22.480 one here. Just the endless decades-long war to suppress any form of patriotism or nationalism.

00:04:36.000 I would even go further than that and say there's been a concerted effort to attack the native British

00:04:42.160 people, you know, for the benefit of foreigners who do us harm. And this is, in many ways, a rejection

00:04:50.000 of that and a very sort of, I suppose, polite way of doing it, a way in which no one's going to be

00:04:58.160 strongly disapproving of this and saying, this is terrible. Well, they will.

00:05:02.080 Well, and if they are, they reveal themselves, don't they?

00:05:04.480 Exactly. And that's what I'm going to be getting on to. But here they are. This is in

00:05:09.680 Ruberi in Birmingham? I don't know. Robbery? I don't know how that's pronounced.

00:05:13.840 It's probably pronounced robbery these days.

00:05:16.240 Yeah, robbery in Birmingham. But yes, this is outside of a Turkish barber's in a Chinese restaurant,

00:05:21.520 which I think is good optics. And of course, if they object, it makes them look bad, doesn't it?

00:05:26.640 I'd like to go back to that image, would you? Of course.

00:05:29.120 It's interesting. It's nice to note that these are just normal people, but you couldn't get a more

00:05:34.640 sort of almost cliched image of just normal working class blokes.

00:05:40.400 All that's missing are the cans of lager. They've got bottles of water.

00:05:43.600 More sensible, if anything.

00:05:44.800 I think it puts pay to the liar or just the incorrect take that in some way it must be contrived,

00:05:54.160 in some way it must be some sort of 4D chess move by the deep state or something or by our enemies.

00:06:02.240 No, it really is normal people. It really is sort of, dare I say, a populist grassroots thing.

00:06:09.360 Yeah, they haven't got any leadership. Yeah, they're just doing it. Yeah, that can happen.

00:06:13.360 Just like with the hotels. Just started off as one protest and then everyone around the

00:06:18.480 country was like, hey, why don't we do that as well?

00:06:20.480 All it takes is a group of mates having a chat about something at the pub, the penny to drop.

00:06:24.880 I'm not saying they're ready for government, right? Not arguing that, but grassroots people

00:06:32.320 making things actually happen is real. History is littered with examples of that.

00:06:39.040 I very much agree, yeah. I mean, one need only look at things like the French Revolution,

00:06:43.520 sure there was leadership, but there was also lots of organic things that happened.

00:06:47.760 The storming of the Bastille wasn't really agitated, really.

00:06:51.440 It's loads and loads and loads of examples.

00:06:53.120 But anyway, let's not get bogged down with history, especially French history.

00:06:56.560 Yeah, quite right.

00:06:59.760 Okay, so here we can see some roving bands of flag raisers, which is a welcome sight.

00:07:06.320 They're all walking civilly and well behaved. They're not doing anything untoward.

00:07:11.840 They're just walking around.

00:07:13.040 Terrifying. I know.

00:07:15.120 The qualitatively no difference to storm troopers.

00:07:20.160 Men in shorts carrying England flags. How scary.

00:07:24.080 Terrifying. Can I make a quick point about the Union flag and St George's flag?

00:07:28.240 Of course.

00:07:29.920 Because I'm here for both. But I have seen a fair bit of commentary. Even my good friend,

00:07:36.080 Nate, off of Mr H Reviews, has made the point, but I've seen it all over Twitter,

00:07:39.920 that a lot of people are like, no, no, let's do the St George's flag. I mean,

00:07:43.120 Carl's even made the point.

00:07:44.160 I agree with that.

00:07:45.600 And I do agree with it, yeah. If I was doing this stuff and I was in a shop,

00:07:49.680 I'm either going to buy 20 Union flags or 20 St George's crosses, I would certainly go for the

00:07:55.680 St George's crosses, of course. But I'm here for both of them, really. But it's just an interesting

00:08:00.880 point, I think, in this moment in time, that a lot of people are saying, you know,

00:08:05.920 let's do the England thing first and foremost. Don't worry about Britain at this point,

00:08:11.040 particularly. There's all sorts of, you can argue, there are all sorts of problematic

00:08:16.400 things around the Union flag. I say problematic, just all I mean is that it's much younger.

00:08:23.200 The Union is much, much younger than the concept of England.

00:08:26.480 I would argue that it's also a sort of representation of the UK with a Y and two O's,

00:08:32.160 in that it's the symbol of the multicultural, multi-ethnic

00:08:36.240 soup that is trying to be created of the United Kingdom.

00:08:41.600 However, we shouldn't allow them to have that. We should fight back against that. But I still think

00:08:48.400 the regional flags have better optics and people have more of a kinship with that flag

00:08:53.920 than the Union flag, I feel. But I'm not opposed to using the Union flag because half my family is

00:08:59.360 Scottish, half my family is English. So it sort of makes sense that I would be in favour of it,

00:09:04.560 because I'm not going to, I mean, I grew up in England, I'd sooner fly the English flag,

00:09:09.040 but also it feels a little bit dishonest if half of my family is Scottish to then,

00:09:13.760 like, yes, I'm England through and through, you know, so it sort of makes sense to keep the Union

00:09:18.240 together, doesn't it? Just out of interest, remind me, your DNA, did it actually show,

00:09:23.120 of ancestry or whatever, did it actually show strong Scottish, just as an aside?

00:09:27.440 Well, the ancestry results were over 50%, but that's only because I've got lots of Celtic from my mum's

00:09:33.520 side as well, because it's from Devon, and it's the closest thing in the British Isles.

00:09:38.000 But anyway, I thought it'd be interesting that our enemies, the enemy Emily Thornberry's of this

00:09:43.440 world, or the Zara Sultanas of this world, they particularly hate the St George's flag.

00:09:48.400 Mm-hmm. Well, it's harder for them to, well, maybe not Thornberry, but, you know.

00:09:51.600 So let's lean into that more then. Yeah, I agree. I think that the England flag is preferential,

00:09:57.840 but if you've got a, you know, Union flag, stick it up. Sure.

00:10:02.000 I mean, if you're doing this in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, you know, use your

00:10:05.360 local flag, and I encourage it, and you should be proud of your country, you know. Scotland,

00:10:09.280 Wales, Northern Ireland, there's a lot to be proud of. Indeed.

00:10:11.520 You know, I'm not going to do the thing of insulting your neighbours, because I think actually

00:10:17.040 everyone I've met from all of those countries are lovely and good people, just like you or I,

00:10:22.480 like any Englishman, and we wish you all the best. So it's going to actually be nice for once.

00:10:29.120 And here's some more. This is in London. I believe this was actually around Tower Hamlets, where all

00:10:35.440 of the... The belly of the beast. It is, yeah. If you're not from Britain,

00:10:40.720 Tower Hamlets is known for being very multicultural. There was a big tower called Grenfell Tower,

00:10:45.920 which burnt down, and pretty much all of the people that were in it were not from Britain

00:10:52.640 originally, let's say. Obviously, horrible tragedy and everything. So here's another one here. This is

00:10:59.600 the Bell Hotel in Epping. Someone's raised a flag. Look at how much they've had to fortify it as well,

00:11:05.760 this hotel. By the way, it is worth mentioning, there are lots of people profiting from this migrant

00:11:12.080 crisis. They have names. I think it's good to familiarise yourself with them. Like there's

00:11:18.400 people that have become billionaires out of the migrant crisis in Britain, some of our own, selling

00:11:23.680 us out. Lewis Brackpool did a very good segment the other week, naming names, naming organisations.

00:11:29.760 NGOs, charities. That's the kind of stuff we need, is make people feel the consequences of their own

00:11:36.560 actions, have their name dragged through the media, have them associated with the crimes of these

00:11:41.600 migrants because they are facilitating it. But it's great to see this raised there. It's very symbolic.

00:11:46.800 And then here's some more. I think some of those are in Birmingham. Some of them are just around

00:11:51.760 the country. And I even saw Leilani Dowding posting, in the countryside here, a bunch of flags being raised.

00:12:02.320 There's loads there. About six on one small rural street. But to be fair, I see it a lot more these

00:12:09.760 days than you used to in the countryside. It's not that people in the countryside aren't necessarily

00:12:15.360 patriotic. If anything, they've got the most to be patriotic about, because it's sort of God's

00:12:18.880 country, isn't it? But it's a lot more present. I think people are a lot more self-aware. Black

00:12:25.040 Lives Matter and the likes. Open Pandora's box of racial identitarianism. And that's not going away.

00:12:30.720 It's not closing. People are becoming more and more conscious that we are a people and our way of life

00:12:37.440 can only exist amongst ourselves. And that's good, in my opinion. I think it's essential to preserving it.

00:12:43.600 It's interesting you call it the Pandora's box. Like, yeah, we'll have a new era of racial consciousness,

00:12:48.800 but just for us. Like, non-white people. Just for us. And also on top of that, explicitly not for you.

00:12:57.920 Yeah, that's not really likely to work. Right? If you zoom out of that, was that likely to really work?

00:13:04.960 Everyone's projections for the future usually forget that there's going to be a reaction to their own

00:13:10.880 sort of actions. People always assume everything stays static in the future, and it doesn't.

00:13:16.320 People react to stuff. It's funny. It's like this cognitive deficit that some people seem to have.

00:13:25.760 Here's a protest in Southampton against a migrant hotel, and they raised the English flag over the

00:13:31.440 hotel, and it got to the point where the police had to lower it, which is complete optical loss for

00:13:38.080 the police, to be honest. It's like, oh, we've taken it down. All right. Someone's just going to put it

00:13:43.280 back up again. And that's the beauty of all this. Because the action of rebellion is so simple.

00:13:49.920 It's like, you can just keep, you know, like what you were saying with the roundabout,

00:13:54.000 and the flag on the roundabout. All right. Well, the council's going to come and, you know,

00:13:57.600 remove it. All right. Well, someone's just going to come and paint it again. And on and on it goes,

00:14:01.920 right? It's just going to, it's just a war of attrition.

00:14:05.600 And you're exactly right. They are removing the flag, saying they're dangerous. But beforehand,

00:14:10.880 let's actually hammer home why this is important. Because it's got to the point now where raising our

00:14:17.200 own flag is sort of portrayed as a revolutionary act. And were you to go back 20 years ago, this

00:14:23.440 would be absurd, wouldn't it? It'd be unheard of. But now this seems to be the case. But the optics of

00:14:30.320 it are great. It's just like, well, we stand for our country, we stand for England, we stand for

00:14:35.840 Britain. And anyone who opposes that, because of course, they're opposing the right really,

00:14:42.560 aren't they? But it's become a symbol of the right. And by taking ownership of our national flag,

00:14:48.080 that's basically saying, well, we're, you know, the government in waiting, aren't we?

00:14:53.280 Pardon me. Flags are the classic symbolic thing. And I think, I also think a small point,

00:15:00.000 it's great that the St. George's Cross is so easy. All you need is a bit of red paint, any white

00:15:07.200 surface. It's quite easily done. You don't need multiple colors. You don't need any good point,

00:15:14.080 though. You don't need any skill. Not that I'm advocating for damage of property or vandalism in

00:15:19.440 any way. But it is easy. It would be easy. Hypothetically, in Minecraft, it would be,

00:15:28.000 it would be assuming, yeah, you don't need many colors or any skill.

00:15:33.680 And of course, by putting these things up and forcing the councils and the government

00:15:38.320 and the police to take them down, it's basically forcing an unforced error that's predictable,

00:15:44.880 isn't it? Because then it frames the council or the police force in question as being against

00:15:50.480 their own country. And it makes it a lot easier to say, well, hang on a minute,

00:15:54.800 look at all the things they've done to you. They're lowering our own flag. How do these people

00:15:58.560 represent us in any way? It delegitimizes their authority in a way that makes it easier to

00:16:03.440 supplant them. And although I don't think we're anywhere near the point where there's an organic

00:16:08.960 movement on the ground to do such a thing, but it makes, you know, a different cycle of elites

00:16:14.800 more possible, perhaps some that are more favorable to our cause. And I think there are some out there.

00:16:21.520 It's just a matter for Britain to actually start courting more, really. But anyway,

00:16:28.320 so this was the council in Birmingham, which is, by the way, broke for giving out corrupt contracts.

00:16:33.600 There was a case of the Pakistani majority council giving millions of pounds to their

00:16:42.080 Pakistani friends in taxi service to ferry some disabled children to and from school. And this

00:16:48.720 wasn't just lots. It was like 50. And, you know, it was about 6 million, I think.

00:16:55.520 I can't remember the figure. Unfortunate number.

00:16:57.840 Um, aren't they in debt to the tune of billions? Yes. Uh, they're horrendously in debt, which is

00:17:04.160 going to be important. Gross mismanagement. Difficult to mismanage something that badly.

00:17:08.800 It is. Yes. Uh, it's almost like they can't build civilization. Um, here's another one here. Um,

00:17:15.440 council removed St. George's flags hung by locals to upgrade streetlights, apparently. Oh, it's just

00:17:20.640 Birmingham. You know, they're bursting with money. They're just keen to upgrade the streetlights.

00:17:24.800 It's like, oh, really? Is that really what's going on? Oh, you've just got to upgrade all

00:17:30.320 the streetlights in this same area that they coincidentally put flags up in. So they can't

00:17:34.720 clear up rubbish for months on end, but they can immediately act on taking St. George's flags down.

00:17:39.920 Yeah, they finally found the one thing in Birmingham that they will clean up.

00:17:43.120 Right. Right. I mean, if I were being, um, you know, playing devil's advocate here,

00:17:48.880 you know, bin men are different than people who attend to lights. Sure. But I also think it's

00:17:56.080 fair to hold the council accountable here. I think it is a fair case. Uh, here's another one that

00:18:01.280 Labour council left Palestine flags up while removing union jacks. That's, that's in Birmingham

00:18:06.960 again. And that's all you need to hear really, isn't it? Everyone knows that they're doing it because

00:18:11.840 it's our flag and they don't like it because they're foreign or traitors or both. And, uh,

00:18:20.800 the fact that they were talking about it being a danger was sort of memed on his, uh, Chris Rose

00:18:26.000 talking about how he's, uh, survived a near death experience next to an England flag.

00:18:31.840 Um, yeah, it's ridiculous. It is, it is highly dangerous. You could choke on that. I could have

00:18:37.920 a baby's eye out. You could climb up that flagpole and start eating it and choke. And then, then

00:18:43.280 you're up at the top of a pole choking and no one's going to be able to reach you. Or you're, um,

00:18:49.040 just so in awe of the, the majesty of the flag that you don't look which way you're crossing the road

00:18:53.600 and the car just. Yeah. It's obviously ridiculous, isn't it? And, um, yeah. Um, here's some people

00:19:02.320 that, that, um, were covered by, I think this is a telegraph, isn't it? In Tower Hamlets flags

00:19:08.400 raised by patriotism campaign is removed by London council. So this is again, the Tower Hamlets council,

00:19:14.560 um, cracking down on the flag raising, um, by the way, the charred remains of Grenfell tower

00:19:20.160 is still there. Um, but they can remove a flag in, uh, you know, seconds flat. Or at least there was,

00:19:26.960 they were still there last time I checked, but I don't go there that often. Um, and there's also,

00:19:33.600 um, some more videos here of the council cutting them down. Uh, this is London. You can tell by the

00:19:39.200 red buses in the background. Um, it's ridiculous really because it's within hours, but all is not lost.

00:19:47.840 Um, I'm not going to play the audio cause they're swearing cause this is in Birmingham. Um, say no

00:19:54.160 more. Yeah, I can read it. So this sort of looks like if you were to watch the video, um, oh dear,

00:20:00.800 here comes the council to take them down, doesn't it? But hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. What's

00:20:05.760 going on here? We are so back. He's putting up the flags again. Um, that's quite impressive,

00:20:14.160 really. Someone's gone out of the way to rent a cherry picker just to put up the flags. Legend.

00:20:20.080 Well done. I enjoy it. And also, um, there was this people going out to roundabouts, mini roundabouts,

00:20:27.120 which are basically pointless. Um, and everyone drives over them, don't they? Not here. Cause

00:20:33.840 there's a bloke on them and the police are right there, but, uh, when, when unobserved,

00:20:39.200 um, has he got a license for that bit of red paint? The funny thing is the police seem to just drive

00:20:46.560 away and they just have a word with him and then they drive off and he carries on. It's like, I don't

00:20:54.320 know what they were doing, but I'm not complaining. Obviously this is more difficult to remove,

00:20:58.240 but it doesn't mean that, uh, they didn't try. Here's Birmingham council again, able to fix stuff

00:21:06.400 somehow. It's funny that, isn't it? It's funny how things work when it's a symbol of our country,

00:21:13.920 but when it's bins or, you know, Palestine flags or other things, there's some sort of exception.

00:21:19.440 It's almost like they're enemies of British people. It's almost like that, isn't it?

00:21:24.080 It is also just remarkable that they are just to really spell it out. They are more offended by

00:21:30.640 the flag of England than they are living with rubbish, just mounting up outside their own

00:21:36.480 houses. Well, it represents their culture. That's why it's a taste of home.

00:21:41.280 More and more swallowing rubbish everywhere. Yeah. Well, it's a symbol of civilization and

00:21:48.160 order, the flag, and that's basically antithetical to their way of life. But people have been joking

00:21:53.600 that there is a way to get the council to do stuff is to paint the English flag in the potholes.

00:21:59.120 I never even thought of that. That's brilliant. And they'll fill them in for you. So, uh, if you've

00:22:04.160 got potholes, why not make them patriotic and maybe they'll get filled in and you can have some smooth

00:22:09.120 roads. It won't be like we're going through Belgium, which I'm pretty sure hasn't paved their roads since

00:22:16.160 1917. It's so bumpy. It's like a suspension test for an entire country.

00:22:24.560 Yeah, we can't allow our roads to get as bad as Belgium. This is my call out to all the local

00:22:31.040 councils across the country. But lots of people have had stuff to say about this and it's been

00:22:36.000 um, surprisingly muted from the left and surprisingly, um, people have recognized the importance of

00:22:44.800 this. This is Paul Embry, who, um, by the way, has been a member of the Labour Party since 1994,

00:22:51.520 I think it's said on his website. And he says something which I agree with entirely. He says,

00:22:57.440 I'll say again, I've never particularly been a flag waver, but it's pretty obvious why the

00:23:01.760 operation raise the colours campaign has broken out and is spreading. Ordinary Britons are angered

00:23:06.240 by the broken immigration and asylum system, but they have also had enough of asymmetrical

00:23:11.120 multiculturalism, the phenomenon driven by the liberal elites, which dictates that minority

00:23:16.720 nationalities and cultures must always be enthusiastically celebrated while the majority

00:23:21.120 culture must be downplayed. It is never said explicitly, of course, but this has been the effect

00:23:26.320 of public policy over the past couple of decades or so. And now it has resulted in major pushback

00:23:31.440 um, by those who belong to the major nationality and culture, their patience has snapped. Quelled

00:23:36.960 surprise. This is actually spot on. I thought this was great. Very well said. And he's a trade unionist,

00:23:43.280 um, been associated with the Labour Party for a very long time. He's coming out with some sound

00:23:48.080 commentary. I think he was pro-Brexit. He was, yeah. Um, and also he did write this book as well,

00:23:54.960 Despise Why the Modern Left Loaves the Working Class. So he's not necessarily typical of your average.

00:23:59.840 Could have just ended up close the working. That's true. But he's not necessarily typical,

00:24:04.960 but it suggests that this is a message that could resonate with the left, right? He's still of

00:24:10.640 the left. He still describes himself as such. Sorry, Bill, you were going to say that.

00:24:14.320 I quite like the phrase, pardon me, asymmetrical multiculturalism. That's quite nice. I must have

00:24:20.480 heard it before, but let's jog my memory. It's a good one. It's nice and pithy. Um,

00:24:25.520 I feel like this guy, I don't really know him at all, but is he, is he a working class fella?

00:24:32.000 He was a firefighter and he represented a firefighter's union. Right. Okay.

00:24:35.520 He's doing an actual proper good beneficial job. It seems like I might be completely wrong.

00:24:40.000 Like I said, I don't really know anything about this guy, but it sounds like he's perhaps

00:24:42.560 of the older left where they, they thought that the Labour Party was like a, a real Labour movement.

00:24:49.520 It had the best interests of the working class, the proletariat, whatever commie word you want to use.

00:24:54.480 And now finds himself like everyone else just left behind by them, just in the, a bucket of

00:24:59.680 deplorables like everyone else. Well, he says so in this book, doesn't he? That it's about a

00:25:04.320 metropolitan middle-class liberal elite living in London. And it's true. Everyone can recognise it.

00:25:11.120 That's what's going on. They're isolated from the consequences of their own actions because they,

00:25:15.760 they live in different areas to where all the suffering is going on. Here's Matt Goodwin with

00:25:21.120 one of his signature essays. Um, of course, he's going to react that way. Enough of that. Um,

00:25:25.680 um, read it if you like, of course, that they are interesting. I'll give him that. Um,

00:25:31.680 if you've got the time, um, this is interesting as well. All 12 reform councils have made a pledge

00:25:38.720 not to remove the flags if they're raised, which I think is actually quite a good move.

00:25:43.920 And Nigel Farage has said union flags and the cross of St. George should and will fly across

00:25:48.720 the country. Reform UK will never shy away from celebrating our nation. So for once reform is

00:25:54.320 actually doing something optically good. So well done. And obviously, um, lots of the grassroots

00:25:59.360 campaigners are brilliant. And, uh, you know, this is true. All of, um, our objections are usually

00:26:05.360 for the way things are led and not by the people on the ground who, um, make it all work. So well

00:26:10.800 done to you all. And that's good. That's good from now. Stop clocks, right. A couple of times a day.

00:26:15.200 So no, I enjoy, I enjoy that. That's good. Nice to hear that. And now for something that I've included

00:26:21.520 just specifically to annoy Bo, because I know how much you, uh, appreciate her contributions.

00:26:26.640 Here she is talking about the, the lads in Birmingham who are so complimentary of, um,

00:26:32.240 What's her take? Going around raising flags in what's apparently called Operation Raise the Colors,

00:26:36.880 intentionally in front of Turkish barbers and a Chinese takeaway where they probably got a fresh

00:26:40.960 trim and a Chinese before heading home. Thick AF. It's worth pointing out that two of the men are bold.

00:26:47.280 Um, so I don't think they're going to need a trim, maybe a beard trim, but this is just trying to

00:26:55.680 find exception to it, isn't it? Because you know, maybe, maybe they asked the two businesses for

00:27:01.040 permission first. We don't know. Um, you know, maybe they have no exception to it. Maybe they don't mind.

00:27:07.280 It's all part of Kerr's grift, isn't it? To take, to, to have faux, uh, outrage at anything like this.

00:27:15.440 You remember her exchange with Thomas the Winner Skinner on GB News? Remember that? It was like,

00:27:21.440 he dared bring out, I can't remember if he brought out the union flag or St. George's, but yeah,

00:27:26.640 she like pretended to be outraged at that. Um, the other thing I've noticed quite often that, um,

00:27:32.000 people on the other side of the aisle to us, they, they fall back on the criticism that it's dumb,

00:27:40.160 that you're thick. If you've got any sense of patriotism or any sense that you don't want to

00:27:44.160 be replaced in your own ancestral homeland, that you're thick. You see it all the time.

00:27:47.840 Haven't we moved beyond patriotism now?

00:27:50.560 You're so dumb.

00:27:51.440 Yeah. Backwards.

00:27:52.560 You don't understand something. You must be thick. It's like, really? For a start,

00:27:57.280 that's Walter for duck's back. It's like, well, we're not. So, okay. But like,

00:28:00.880 that's the best you've got. That's your final line of defense that you're just thick.

00:28:05.840 We've seen their understanding of economics. We don't need to take it from them.

00:28:09.280 Yeah. It's a bit rich coming from Ms Kerr, isn't it? Quite ironic.

00:28:14.560 And then, uh, coming to the defense of England was our, our formerly very own John Wong,

00:28:20.560 former producer of Lotus Eaters.

00:28:22.320 Long Wong Silver.

00:28:23.440 That's the one. Yes. The pirate himself. Um, hi, former Chinese takeaway

00:28:27.440 owner and over 30 year family history in the Chinese food industry here. It's okay to eat

00:28:31.920 Chinese and love your country, which is a fair sentiment, actually. Cheers, John.

00:28:36.080 Yeah. And, uh, then Narenda was saying, no one's, uh, didn't say it wasn't.

00:28:42.640 What? Say it. I don't know what that means. Um, but the obvious reasons for hoisting in front of

00:28:47.120 the Turkish barbers and Chinese, she's trying to suggest that they're agitating on purpose, which,

00:28:51.360 um, John has a very good, uh, rebuttal to the notion that raising the union flag outside immigrant

00:28:57.120 owned shops is intimidating or, uh, conducive to a conflict of ethnic interest necessitates the

00:29:03.840 presupposition that those shops are foreign territory. Ergo, this reveals your implicit

00:29:08.880 view that immigration is but an invasion. Burn.

00:29:12.320 Well done, John. This is good. Yeah. Smoked. Well, it's just nonsense. Yeah. Oh, so what? I've,

00:29:19.120 I had a, a chicken fried rice and some prawn crackers. So now I have to advocate for the

00:29:24.080 abolition of England. I just have to accept every other, you know, foreigner on the planet here.

00:29:30.080 Well, it's not as if you, you feed, you know, I don't know, a Bengali a roast dinner and all of a

00:29:35.440 sudden they become just as you and your eye and they're just as English. No, it doesn't work that

00:29:42.160 way. The ethnicity is still important, but also, you know, you can eat food and still be of your

00:29:48.720 culture and still be a patriot. It doesn't, it doesn't really matter. It's a non-argument.

00:29:52.800 The food thing is weird, isn't it? It's like if you, if you eat a bit of beef Wellington,

00:29:58.160 you, your head is immediately filled with the campaigns of the Duke of Wellington.

00:30:02.720 It's true, but only 0.1%. It's, it just gives you an ever so slight nudge.

00:30:08.000 If you have a little bit of egg fried rice, suddenly you are from Wuhan.

00:30:13.920 What? It doesn't, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

00:30:18.080 What did she say there? I think you deep things too much.

00:30:21.440 Well, it's like he fried her brain so much that even her loose, it's not her first language,

00:30:28.720 says Samson.

00:30:30.560 Scroll up a little to her first thing. The first thing she said, sorry.

00:30:35.120 Oh, in response. Yeah.

00:30:36.480 No one didn't say it wasn't. So someone did say it was.

00:30:41.280 Be such a patriot that the English language comprehension of the people against us become

00:30:46.400 scrambled and they can't even argue against us.

00:30:48.320 Make them unfathomable.

00:30:51.600 Then the final one I wanted to mention in terms of commentary was

00:30:54.240 the sort of thing that I would expect people of my parents' generation to say.

00:31:00.800 England's politics are becoming like Northern Ireland's flags signal which groups in the

00:31:05.600 majority locally. Voters are expected to back their side. Yes, that's not unfair.

00:31:10.640 This is nothing to celebrate.

00:31:12.160 Sectarian politics encourages at best complacency and corruption and at worst civil strife.

00:31:17.600 And I will say in response to this, what I actually said, if it's still there, in response,

00:31:24.080 I think it is.

00:31:24.560 There you are.

00:31:24.960 There you are.

00:31:25.040 You just go up.

00:31:26.160 I can't.

00:31:26.640 Oh yeah, I forgot.

00:31:27.280 I changed my profile picture so I don't recognise myself.

00:31:30.720 In ordinary times, I would agree completely.

00:31:32.480 However, English identitarianism is more of an immune system response to the treatment of

00:31:36.480 the native inhabitants of second class citizens in our own country, both economically and legally,

00:31:41.520 there are cases of unfairness.

00:31:43.040 Which, you know, I respect Lord Hannan. He can be good on many things.

00:31:50.640 So I wanted to be nice about it. But this was the reply that was by far the most popular.

00:31:55.920 And so, not to pat my, well, there were also other people saying the same thing.

00:32:00.160 But the sentiment was pretty clear that people don't much care for warnings about sectarianism

00:32:06.400 anymore because it's gone too far. And it has. Pandora's box has been opened.

00:32:11.680 You can't close it again now. Racial consciousness has been opened. And the English have learnt

00:32:17.280 that to preserve our people, we've got to be, you know, unrepentantly ourselves.

00:32:24.000 And by flying our flag, that's at least a start. And it reveals our enemies. That's great.

00:32:29.120 Let's go up to what you said again for us.

00:32:31.280 Yeah, he's worried about sectarianism. Well, yeah, well, you foisted it on us. Well, not him,

00:32:46.800 personally. It's been foisted on us, asymmetrically, for decades, though.

00:32:52.880 That's very true. Yes, you've invited it in.

00:32:54.720 Yeah, right. We're not just doing this for, like, out of nowhere.

00:32:58.320 We just lie down and take it.

00:32:59.840 Out of clear blue sky for no reason.

00:33:03.440 I mean, there's a phrase, if you mess with the bull, you get the horns, right?

00:33:08.080 And the bull has been very patient, but it's time for the horns, isn't it?

00:33:12.720 That's what's happening. People are fed up of having to put up with being treated like this

00:33:17.280 in our own country, nonetheless. And I want to draw attention to this. This is

00:33:25.920 an initiative that is just documenting where people are raising flags and also accepting donations

00:33:33.520 to help flag York specifically. And I imagine if this takes off, it will be across the country.

00:33:39.920 So if you like this notion, there are people trying to spread it. And they've got a link to

00:33:46.960 their website there, flagforceuk.com. And they have a little website where they

00:33:53.840 show where people are raising flags. Obviously, Birmingham's there. I don't know where that is.

00:33:57.920 You're from up north. You'll probably know.

00:33:59.200 I think that's York.

00:34:00.240 Oh, of course. Yeah. Too far for me to know. So, yeah, I wanted to draw attention to this

00:34:06.720 because I think it's important. I think it's not just a symbolic victory because it's forcing errors.

00:34:13.280 It's putting pressure on the current ruling elites to make mistakes. And if they make mistakes,

00:34:19.040 it weakens them, and it makes their replacement all the easier. And this is a good thing,

00:34:24.720 and we should be celebrating.

00:34:28.560 Indeed. Do you want me to read through the rumble rants for you?

00:34:31.440 Of course. Okay.

00:34:32.320 Engaged View says,

00:34:35.760 In both Britain, the throne will issue a decree to the local councils. The St. George's flag will

00:34:42.560 hang from the lampposts. Right. Okay.

00:34:48.000 People can guess what that was going to be.

00:34:49.920 You had me in the first half, Engaged View. I thought I was going to be able to read it all.

00:34:54.080 Habsification says,

00:34:54.960 Yeah, absolutely. And once again,

00:35:07.280 Habsification.

00:35:14.400 Yeah. And so they can just keep getting put up.

00:35:17.120 They are very cheap, aren't they?

00:35:18.480 Mm-hmm.

00:35:19.520 Very, very cheap.

00:35:21.360 One more flag. Very, very cheap.

00:35:23.040 I never thought I'd hear both in Indian.

00:35:26.560 Materially very, very cheap, but spiritually invaluable.

00:35:29.600 Right.

00:35:31.120 All right.

00:35:32.240 Can I have a mouse?

00:35:33.680 Go on then.

00:35:34.160 I have no mouse and I must scream.

00:35:36.560 Um, okay.

00:35:40.240 So the big thing, the main thing that's in the news cycle today,

00:35:43.120 um, is the, uh, the Zelensky has gone back to the White House.

00:35:49.600 So we feel like we have to cover it.

00:35:52.080 I hope he's practised his pleases and thank yous.

00:35:54.720 Oh, yeah. There was a quote flurry of thank yous.

00:35:58.400 When the cameras went on in the Oval Office, apparently he said thank you like six times in

00:36:03.200 almost.

00:36:03.760 And he wore a blazer this time.

00:36:05.440 Yeah. Although not a tire.

00:36:07.280 Did still fail to wear a tire.

00:36:08.880 Oh, well, we'll get there.

00:36:10.560 It's not difficult.

00:36:11.360 I thought, dude, like get a tire.

00:36:13.520 You're a president.

00:36:14.400 You're a head of state, aren't you?

00:36:15.520 Giving you an-

00:36:16.000 Get a tire.

00:36:16.720 Enough money.

00:36:17.440 You can afford one.

00:36:18.480 Yeah.

00:36:18.720 Yeah.

00:36:19.440 Yeah.

00:36:19.760 Three quid tire.

00:36:20.720 Aren't your family extremely rich now somehow?

00:36:23.440 You could probably afford a couple of tires.

00:36:26.320 Yeah.

00:36:26.880 And take your coat off.

00:36:27.760 You're in the Oval.

00:36:28.560 He's wearing, uh, he's wearing a shirt with the top button done up.

00:36:33.120 No tire and a coat in the Oval Office.

00:36:36.080 Like, anyway.

00:36:39.680 Some of the angles are saying like, look at the drip.

00:36:41.440 Oh, he's so well turned out this time.

00:36:43.040 Oh, he looks, he looks so great.

00:36:44.720 No, he doesn't.

00:36:46.640 It's like an idiot.

00:36:48.400 All right.

00:36:48.800 Anyway, enough of the ad hominem.

00:36:51.200 People probably criticize my tie and shirt combo if they tried.

00:36:55.040 All right.

00:36:55.440 So, um, but it was, so even though we're covering it because it's a big, uh, it's in the news cycle

00:37:01.360 at the moment, it's a bit of a nothing burger.

00:37:03.120 Um, if you remember last week in Alaska, Putin and Trump met, you remember that?

00:37:11.520 And all the, uh, all the headlines out of that was that there's like some sort of reasonably

00:37:16.320 big push forward that Putin, like Trump went there hoping to sort of start to get some sort

00:37:21.760 of ceasefire agreement.

00:37:23.520 And that Putin has said, no, let's move past that.

00:37:25.600 Let's just go to a full blown peace deal because Putin's got really what he wants.

00:37:30.640 In other words, he's occupying all the land he wants, basically.

00:37:34.720 There's no realistic battlefield possibility of it being taken off of him.

00:37:39.360 So he's basically achieved his war aims.

00:37:42.400 It seems, I mean, I'm not privy to the thinking of the Kremlin war planners, but it looks that way.

00:37:49.040 So he's basically got what he wants.

00:37:50.480 So he's ready for, he's ready for a piece.

00:37:52.960 So let's, and so the, the headlines coming out of that Alaska summit was that, oh, right.

00:37:59.120 Okay.

00:37:59.360 We can, maybe we can get a peace deal going.

00:38:02.880 That sounds good.

00:38:04.160 So Trump off the back of that is like, right, get Vladimir back in DC ASAP.

00:38:11.120 And let's do a deal, the art of the deal.

00:38:13.120 Let's do it.

00:38:13.840 The problem is sort of obviously with all of that is that Trump and Putin can sort of agree

00:38:18.960 whatever they want.

00:38:20.480 If the Ukrainians don't agree to it, then, and there isn't a full blown, 100% military,

00:38:29.280 Russian military success, full blown surrender with no conditions, then they still need the

00:38:35.920 Ukrainians to be on board with whatever deal they've decided amongst themselves.

00:38:40.480 So it's all very well, Trump and Putin agreeing something, but.

00:38:44.000 And as far as I know, the, the European powers are still, you know, just giving unconditional

00:38:48.720 support to Ukraine.

00:38:49.920 So he's not alliless, which gives him a reason to, to keep going.

00:38:54.240 I would also suggest that a lot of the Western support for Ukraine isn't for some special love

00:39:00.160 for Ukraine.

00:39:00.800 Of course.

00:39:01.280 Down.

00:39:01.920 I think it's all just to weaken Russia, isn't it?

00:39:04.560 And it's, it's effectively a proxy war.

00:39:07.440 So most of the countries supporting Ukraine, they may care about the wellbeing of the Ukrainian

00:39:12.800 people.

00:39:13.120 Perhaps I'm not going to go so far as to say that, but they're more interested in harming

00:39:18.160 Russia than helping Ukraine.

00:39:20.240 And I think that part of the reason, you know, there's no European anger at Trump trying to

00:39:27.360 negotiate a peace deal and why the Americans are keen is that both Russia and, you know,

00:39:32.320 the West more generally, except Ukraine, of course, have sort of got what they wanted.

00:39:37.200 Russia has put a lot more money and lives and military technology into the conflict than

00:39:43.520 they expected. And I'm getting to the point now where I think they're satisfied with how much

00:39:51.680 harm they've done to Russia and they're okay to, to, to sue for peace. But the Ukrainians,

00:39:57.840 I think Zelensky's had a line where he's been pretty much unbending on ceding territory to the

00:40:04.400 Russians. And I don't know whether he'll be able to do that. It'd be very impressive if he does,

00:40:10.320 but I don't think it's very likely given that the Russians have been militarily successful and

00:40:14.640 they're in a position to, to take it basically, you know, it's, it's like the million dialogues

00:40:20.320 of ancient Greece, isn't it? You know, uh, the strong do what they can and the weak do what they

00:40:25.840 must. It, that's the way the world works, unfortunately. And although morality is with

00:40:31.200 keeping your own territory, I don't think it's actually going to play out that way.

00:40:34.400 I don't know if I'm getting to something that you're going to cover, but I saw, uh,

00:40:38.880 Zelensky saying that I can't cede the territory because it's written in our constitution.

00:40:43.520 Hmm. That's true.

00:40:44.720 That we can't. It's like, but what is a piece of paper in this respect? What defense is that

00:40:50.720 when you've already lost a huge portion of it?

00:40:53.680 So just endless war then?

00:40:55.520 Yeah.

00:40:55.840 Are you going to feed in even people with like down syndrome? Do you see that?

00:40:59.200 Yeah.

00:41:00.400 Are old men and really young men and even people with learning difficulties or you're just going to,

00:41:05.120 you're just going to waste all your men folk. Is that what you, is that the plan then?

00:41:09.280 I don't know.

00:41:10.160 Then I, when the war is over, it's not really over either, because of course the designs

00:41:16.160 that have been made for Ukraine are horrifying. You know, you've got Blackrock and the like carving

00:41:22.160 up parts, uh, designs for mass migration to replace the, the lost men. Who knows what horrors

00:41:28.160 Ukraine is going to face after the war, as well as during.

00:41:32.240 I think you're quite right to say that from the European point of view, or the,

00:41:35.360 let's say maybe the NATO leadership point of view, they're much more interested than

00:41:39.760 trying to damage Russia strategically than caring about, uh, the soldier, the Ukrainian soldier's

00:41:47.360 death. They've been very blase about that.

00:41:49.360 Well, yeah, on both sides, it's basically generations of young men that have been conscripted and sent to

00:41:55.280 die in something that, were they given the choice, I don't think they would be there.

00:42:00.480 You know, it's, you lose a generation of young men for what?

00:42:04.320 Story is old as time.

00:42:05.120 It is, yeah.

00:42:05.760 Classic going back to Thucydides, it's as old as time.

00:42:09.200 Um, but also just to interrupt myself, perhaps consider buying Ireland a magazine

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00:42:30.720 Oh yeah.

00:42:31.200 You're always very modest. You never mentioned you've written.

00:42:33.920 Sometimes.

00:42:34.480 Dave Green, so, yeah.

00:42:37.760 Yeah, and Luca, yeah. I'll write one next time, I think.

00:42:40.960 I was in the first one and hasn't, haven't been in it since.

00:42:42.800 Twice.

00:42:43.440 I think I will be, uh, in the next one.

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00:43:13.200 Okay, so back to Zelensky and Russia and Putin.

00:43:15.920 So, so, Trump sort of summons Zelensky back to the, back to the White House.

00:43:21.600 And if you remember a few months back when he was ambushed.

00:43:25.200 Remember that? When J.D. Vance ambushed him.

00:43:27.600 That was a little bit embarrassing from both sides.

00:43:29.840 It was a little bit, wasn't it? It's not very statesman-like.

00:43:32.160 Yeah.

00:43:34.240 I get that they were playing to their base, as in Trump and J.D. Vance,

00:43:39.760 and a lot of what they were saying was actually true,

00:43:42.960 but it was just the manner in which they were saying it didn't look good.

00:43:46.320 And sometimes optics are important in this thing.

00:43:50.160 Sometimes, you know, saying the truth isn't necessarily all that you need to do.

00:43:55.680 And I feel like they could have dealt with it better,

00:43:58.160 as well as Zelensky obviously being sort of rude and entitled, pretty much.

00:44:02.640 But then why shouldn't he be? He's basically been given infinite free money.

00:44:06.720 So he's sort of come to expect it now, hasn't he?

00:44:09.840 Yeah, I mean, it was a bit unstatial, but I also thought it was quite funny.

00:44:13.920 It made me laugh.

00:44:14.560 Yeah.

00:44:14.880 It's humorous.

00:44:15.760 To pull him down a peg or two, but asking him to say thank you.

00:44:19.600 I mean, it's a bit like a small child.

00:44:22.480 What do you say? What's the magic word?

00:44:24.960 You know, it's a bit like that.

00:44:26.000 Say wheeze.

00:44:27.120 Yeah.

00:44:27.680 Yeah.

00:44:28.000 So this time, it seems like everyone that's on the as long as it takes train,

00:44:33.440 just endless support for Ukraine, they feel like they didn't want him to get ambushed again.

00:44:39.280 And so loads of the European leaders all turned up.

00:44:43.200 And it's quite rare, actually, to have that many people.

00:44:45.520 There's an image here to have, you know, what have we got?

00:44:50.880 Italy, the EU, Germany, France, NATO, Zelensky himself, the Dutch.

00:44:59.600 Yeah, well, he's EU.

00:45:01.600 He doesn't represent the Dutch anymore.

00:45:03.280 Oh, does he not?

00:45:04.000 No.

00:45:04.720 Like how Keir Starmer's not there.

00:45:06.000 Is Starmer not there?

00:45:06.720 Yeah.

00:45:07.360 He might be in the back there.

00:45:08.800 I think I recognise his grey quiff behind.

00:45:12.080 Ah, is it just behind Vance?

00:45:13.760 Yeah, it might be him.

00:45:15.600 All the big hitters, Rubio's there, Bondi, I think.

00:45:20.160 It's a room of power.

00:45:22.800 But they're Donald, just out of shot.

00:45:26.960 You can imagine he would fire them if he could.

00:45:29.600 But the body language is very interesting.

00:45:32.320 Everyone's just like, oh.

00:45:34.480 I mean, it's modish at the moment to say, isn't it, that the American empire is over,

00:45:38.720 it's on the wane, they're done, all that sort of thing.

00:45:41.360 Well, no, the reality is that they're the most powerful country in the world in a couple

00:45:46.640 of key metrics, in terms of their navy, still obviously a massive nuclear arsenal,

00:45:52.000 their economy, although massively in debt, is still a beer moth.

00:45:56.560 Trump is still the most, arguably, the most powerful man in the world, or whoever is President

00:46:00.960 of the United States.

00:46:01.600 And certainly over Europe.

00:46:02.880 Trump.

00:46:03.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:05.040 Like the Dutch Prime Minister, or not Dutch, let's say, the Italian Prime Minister.

00:46:12.320 I mean, in terms of sheer power, the ability to move things in the world,

00:46:18.240 it's night and day between the US President and the leader of Italy.

00:46:22.320 And this shows, I mean, this shows.

00:46:23.440 It's true of us as well.

00:46:24.320 Yeah, oh, absolutely, yeah.

00:46:25.680 Oh, God, yeah, absolutely.

00:46:27.040 No, it's absolutely the case.

00:46:28.800 There's a number of pictures, actually, aren't there?

00:46:30.080 One or two, I think, from almost iconic images from Trump's first presidency,

00:46:33.840 where it's like Angela Merkel, or everyone leaning over Trump, trying to sort of berate

00:46:37.920 them.

00:46:38.000 Oh, yes.

00:46:38.320 And he's just like, I'm not having any of it.

00:46:40.720 I don't need to do anything you guys say at all.

00:46:44.640 That is one thing I think is good about the MAGA movement, from an American point of view,

00:46:49.440 that they're aware of their own power, fully aware of it, like Steve Bannon.

00:46:54.160 Like, if you hate America, it must be really frustrating to listen to Steve Bannon,

00:46:57.760 being aware of their own power.

00:47:00.000 But from their point of view, I mean, good on them.

00:47:03.040 I'm for nationalists all around the country, all around the world, in their own country.

00:47:08.400 Yeah, I'm for Indian nationalism in India, right?

00:47:12.960 I'm for MAGA in the United States, and on and on and on, you get it.

00:47:16.720 Okay, but it's interesting to see all the Po faces.

00:47:20.320 But what it boils down to, ultimately, is that if the Ukrainians, or Zelensky,

00:47:25.280 sort of refuses to accept any sort of raft of conditions that Trump and Putin have come to,

00:47:32.320 if he refuses to do it, then the conflict will just go on interminably, won't it?

00:47:38.080 Well, there is a bargaining chip that America and the European powers can have over him,

00:47:43.920 that unless you, you know, move a bit more our way, we're going to stop supporting you as much.

00:47:50.640 Which is, you know, he's entirely, the Ukrainian resistance would have been over if it wasn't for lots of the Western support.

00:47:58.000 And so he is dependent on them, and the situation could get worse.

00:48:01.340 And they could hold that over him as like, listen, you've got to be realistic here, it doesn't matter what the Constitution says.

00:48:07.980 Find a way around it, vote around it, do something, but you've got to end this.

00:48:12.940 That does seem like a final sticking point, which, like, it can't be the final sticking point.

00:48:20.220 That the war will have to go on endlessly because the Office of President of Ukraine cannot ever concede territory.

00:48:28.380 Well, then that just hard bakes in a forever war then, doesn't it?

00:48:32.700 Or unconditional surrender.

00:48:34.000 I mean, we'll get accused, as I have been, and a lot of states have been for, of being Kremlin stooges.

00:48:41.980 But, Ukraine have to accept they've lost territory.

00:48:45.900 They've got to accept it. It's a fate of complete. It has happened. It's a battlefield reality.

00:48:54.860 The political will coming out of Moscow is that they're not going to give it back.

00:48:58.700 They're not going to give Crimea back, right?

00:49:00.700 They're not going to give big chunks of the Donbass back.

00:49:03.260 That seems like that just will not happen.

00:49:05.980 It's not even like I'm happy about it either, because it'd be more to my personal benefit that some of that land,

00:49:12.540 which, you know, Ukraine breadbasket of Europe, was in Ukraine's hands, it's more likely to benefit me than it would in Russian hands,

00:49:19.720 which, you know, given everything that's happened, isn't going to be of any benefit to me.

00:49:24.740 So it's not that I'm even happy about it, but I do agree that it seems like an inevitability, really.

00:49:30.460 Oh yeah, if I could wave a magic wand, and we'll go back to sort of 2013 or 2012,

00:49:36.460 and that border, everyone completely agrees, and there's 100% peace from both sides.

00:49:40.800 Yeah, I would wave that wand. Yeah, of course, yeah.

00:49:44.460 But that's not where we are. That's not reality now. That's not the battlefield reality.

00:49:48.460 Okay, so what was agreed yesterday with Zelensky and, by proxy, a lot of the European leaders?

00:49:55.860 Very little. Very little. The takeaway points, well, there might be a meeting with Putin and Zelensky, so probably not.

00:50:05.660 I mean, the Russians even said, or it was like the most lukewarm thing they could have possibly said.

00:50:10.880 They said that it might be worthwhile to explore the possibility of raising the levels of representatives.

00:50:18.720 That's a diplomatic way of saying, nah, probably not.

00:50:22.320 Nothing forthcoming in that.

00:50:23.740 Yeah. On that side of things, apparently, it's the case that it really is the Russians saying no to that.

00:50:31.320 Zelensky has calculated a long time ago that he can say, I'm ready to meet Putin.

00:50:37.340 I'm ready, but he knows because they're going to say no.

00:50:40.640 So he looks like he's the one gunning for peace.

00:50:45.040 But the Russians are just not really interested in that.

00:50:46.760 They've got, they hold nearly all the cards, militarily speaking, which is the bottom line, isn't it?

00:50:53.420 Which is the bottom line.

00:50:54.140 So a Putin-Zelensky meeting on the cards, question mark.

00:50:58.620 Yeah, not really.

00:51:00.740 That the Europeans push back against Trump's idea of ceasefire.

00:51:03.840 For some reason, the Europeans, and particularly the Germans, were like, no, we must have a ceasefire first.

00:51:11.280 We must have an armistice.

00:51:13.960 They will play football.

00:51:15.220 I mean, if the Ukrainians, and it doesn't look likely, but if the Ukrainians just said, OK, we're ready to agree to essentially whatever Putin wants,

00:51:26.960 then they don't, it doesn't have to be a ceasefire first.

00:51:29.540 Just get it done.

00:51:30.600 Just get the peace deal done.

00:51:31.920 All right, the third thing is that Trump hints at security guarantees for the Ukrainians,

00:51:37.940 that if and when there was a ceasefire and or a peace, that he would then, the United States would then at least guarantee their further safety.

00:51:46.380 Apparently, Putin agreed to most of that, or in fact, all of that at the Alaska thing.

00:51:51.220 So, again, the ball's back in Ukraine's court on that.

00:51:57.480 But it's not really anything.

00:51:59.480 It's just sort of a talking point.

00:52:00.740 It's nothing concrete, is it?

00:52:01.960 Putin would agree to that, though, because it's a guarantee that nothing is going to escalate again.

00:52:07.120 And if he's trying to consolidate his, basically, territory that he's won,

00:52:12.000 you don't want things to be kicking off again and interrupting that, do you?

00:52:15.200 You sort of want there to be amicable peace.

00:52:18.180 Yeah.

00:52:18.940 Amicable, you know, as amicable as it can be.

00:52:22.780 And the fourth most important takeaway point, the things that have happened at this important meeting,

00:52:29.600 is that Zelensky was nice, he was charming.

00:52:35.080 And just look at the drip.

00:52:37.300 He definitely doesn't look like a cobbled together Eastern European gangster.

00:52:41.640 He looks like he's going to a funeral.

00:52:43.300 Yeah.

00:52:44.660 What's up with all of the black?

00:52:46.240 And that is one of the four key takeaways from the headline, I see.

00:52:54.120 Yeah.

00:52:54.320 So, OK, the last thing to say is that, again, the maps tell the real story.

00:53:02.780 The Ukrainians are not capable, it doesn't seem like, and from all the military analysts that you can listen to,

00:53:09.620 they're not in a position to launch any sort of offensive that's realistically going to take back these big chunks of land.

00:53:18.700 You know, they had their shot at a big summer offensive, what, a couple of summers ago,

00:53:23.120 and it bogged down immediately and got nowhere.

00:53:26.240 The Russians are dug in.

00:53:30.680 Like an Alabama tick.

00:53:33.060 It's going to be difficult to get them out.

00:53:35.400 It's not going to happen.

00:53:36.600 Well, the lines have been sort of around these sorts of boundaries or advancing against the Ukrainians for years now, haven't they?

00:53:43.180 Right, right, yeah.

00:53:45.880 One of the things that came out of that Alaska meeting was some of these small pockets,

00:53:50.560 relatively small pockets of land up here that Putin's prepared to give away some other chunks of land

00:53:55.980 if he can have these sort of strategically or I guess even maybe even tactically important areas, small areas.

00:54:03.580 But, yeah, these main areas here are what he doesn't seem like he's going to let go.

00:54:09.100 He doesn't have to.

00:54:10.240 He's under no real pressure to let them go.

00:54:13.740 The Ukrainian military forces, it seems, despite everything,

00:54:18.580 all the material and money that's been given to them, are incapable of doing it.

00:54:26.100 That's just the reality there on that.

00:54:28.480 So I suppose the final thing to say, one of the final things to say,

00:54:32.300 is that if and when a peace deal is made, will that actually mean the end of fighting,

00:54:40.720 the end of gunplay, the end of sort of mortar exchanges and stuff?

00:54:44.460 Because there's different, every war is almost a unique thing.

00:54:48.580 And some, when the two sides, the two governments sign an armistice or have a war,

00:54:54.260 or have a peace deal, both sides, their professional militaries, their regulars, do just stop.

00:55:03.600 But then there's all sorts of other wars where the governments or the leaders can say,

00:55:08.240 we've come to a peace and things don't stop.

00:55:10.840 If you look at like interminable wars in the West Bank or Gaza, you know,

00:55:14.780 the government can say...

00:55:15.680 In the Middle East than perhaps in Europe, isn't it?

00:55:18.100 Like, yes, rare fact can say, we've reached a deal and the paramilitaries on the ground are like,

00:55:22.920 yeah, cool, good one.

00:55:24.900 And they keep going.

00:55:26.660 I fear that something like that, at least on a relatively small scale, may happen here.

00:55:31.420 Because there's lots of like ultra-Ukrainian, or Ukrainian ultras in that part of the country,

00:55:38.960 which may not give in, even if Zelensky did sign a deal.

00:55:43.280 Even if Zelensky did sign a peace deal, would it really mean the end of violence?

00:55:48.280 That might be why he's so keen not to end it here and now, isn't it?

00:55:53.140 That if he did, he wouldn't have the ability to enforce it.

00:55:56.700 Maybe.

00:55:57.380 Maybe.

00:55:57.840 It's a messy one.

00:55:59.060 As far as wars go, it does seem sort of on the slightly messier end of the scale.

00:56:06.480 But okay, I suppose.

00:56:07.880 Watch your space.

00:56:08.400 That was just the latest step in the ongoing saga of Ukraine.

00:56:12.980 Biggest news.

00:56:16.680 Zelensky wore a jacket.

00:56:19.220 The biggest news.

00:56:22.240 All right.

00:56:23.620 Just one from Havification says,

00:56:26.200 Putin needs access to the Black Sea, which leads to the Med.

00:56:30.600 Treat for shipping lanes and military.

00:56:34.120 That is sort of the whole point of the Crimea, is that there's deep water harbours there and stuff.

00:56:38.580 Why we fought the Crimean War and won it in 1856, isn't it?

00:56:43.240 Is that the Russians wanted a warm water port that didn't freeze over in the winter.

00:56:49.460 Yeah.

00:56:49.780 Well, there's a reason why the Ottomans, the Russians and even the British in the 19th century coveted the Crimea.

00:56:55.740 Well, we gave it away to the Ottomans, who we later fought, which was stupid.

00:56:59.720 Yeah.

00:57:00.040 Well, it was all for the great game.

00:57:02.300 It was all for the great game.

00:57:03.640 Anyway.

00:57:04.460 Well, ladies and gentlemen, as we know now, since October the 7th, it's been nearly two years at this point.

00:57:12.500 And of course, the conflict and the violence and the bloodshed in Gaza is obviously still ongoing.

00:57:20.060 And with any of these things, with a lot of war and a lot of chaos, comes a lot of refugees as well.

00:57:26.380 And this has been something that a lot of people have been very vocal about since the beginning.

00:57:32.240 That obviously, whenever there's war in the Middle East, it really invariably only means one thing for Europe.

00:57:39.160 It means we've got to pick up the slack for some reason.

00:57:41.740 I don't know why it's our problem, why in any way we're involved.

00:57:45.840 And it's basically because we're a weak touch that gets our humanity and good feeling exploited by people that are far more cynical than that.

00:57:56.680 Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:57:58.260 But before we talk about everything else to do with the refugees, I just want to tell you that we've obviously got Islander, Issue 4 out, many wonderful essays in here.

00:58:09.760 It's $14.99 on the website, and you'll really, really enjoy it.

00:58:14.480 So, the other thing as well, of course, is that there is, exactly as you say, Josh, we're a weak touch, right?

00:58:22.380 And the sort of liberal compassion and empathy above all things, not for our own people, of course.

00:58:31.440 Compassion and empathy for everyone else in the world reigns supreme.

00:58:35.720 And so, obviously, as you have here, this was back in June, dozens of MPs are calling on Starmer to urgently establish a Ukraine-style visa for the Ghazans to come over to Britain.

00:58:47.080 And it feels like it's only a matter of time, is really the point of all of this, right?

00:58:54.000 The pressure is there.

00:58:55.700 It comes from all the NGOs, all the refugee charities, basically everyone in Parliament with this worldview.

00:59:03.300 Or they'll just do it, slap a D notice on it, and tell you about it two years later.

00:59:09.080 It's a classic.

00:59:09.840 Well, yeah, all that as well.

00:59:11.140 Afghan thing, isn't it?

00:59:12.060 Yeah.

00:59:12.380 It's of Afghans magically just appear in Britain.

00:59:15.500 It's like, oh, okay, thanks.

00:59:16.640 Thousands of them.

00:59:18.640 Thousands of them.

00:59:19.620 You sound...

00:59:20.500 Zulu.

00:59:21.480 Zulu, sir.

00:59:24.120 But as Sam points out here, and to be clear, we don't want that chain migration.

00:59:28.880 It's like, when you look at Denmark, it took in 321 Palestinians, 71 received prison sentences in the 27 years afterwards, and by 2011, 200 of working age were on benefits, right?

00:59:42.260 And so this is the point.

00:59:43.720 It always, the rhetoric always begins with, well, it's just temporary refuge, and then it becomes indefinite refuge, and then it becomes citizenship, and then it becomes, oh, well, we've got families as well that we need to bring.

00:59:57.060 They've got uncles and aunties.

01:00:00.380 So do I.

01:00:01.740 Yeah, it doesn't mean, you know, I move somewhere, I take them with me, does it?

01:00:05.800 Also, it doesn't matter which side of the conflict the refugees are coming from.

01:00:09.940 I just don't want them here.

01:00:11.000 No.

01:00:12.460 Anyone that comes from a desert, forget about it.

01:00:15.500 No chance.

01:00:16.060 And from a group of people, the Egyptians and the Jordanians and the Saudis refuse, essentially, to have anything to do with.

01:00:30.340 Well, they know what happened in Lebanon, don't they?

01:00:32.580 So, these people are not the best people, let's just put it that way.

01:00:38.360 Why should they come here, of all places?

01:00:41.060 Of all places, why?

01:00:42.400 Well, they may not be going to, that's the wrong one.

01:00:50.000 I don't want anything to do with that.

01:00:52.840 Mali wins the 2025 Independence Cup.

01:00:55.740 Yes.

01:00:56.060 Ah, thank you.

01:00:57.900 Indonesia, thank you, Samson.

01:01:00.100 Indonesia affirms no negotiations with Israel on Gaza residents' evacuation.

01:01:04.820 Oh, right.

01:01:05.680 So, the Israeli government seems to have been putting out feelers across many, many nations,

01:01:12.580 saying, because they want Gaza, of course, they want the territory, they want to clear out Hamas and all the rest of it,

01:01:18.900 that we've been talking about for two years now.

01:01:21.980 But this leaves them, well, where are the millions and millions of people going to go?

01:01:27.000 You know, there's a lot of people.

01:01:28.840 And so, Indonesia, maybe, well, the Indonesian government denied this, but then, so did the South Sudanese.

01:01:37.500 And I keep hearing lots of things from various different countries saying, oh, there's been no talk of it whatsoever.

01:01:44.960 But somehow these stories are coming from somewhere.

01:01:49.280 And there are video, there's many videos that you can check out online of Netanyahu just explaining the fact that,

01:01:55.460 yeah, of course, we're in conversation with foreign countries about where all the Gazans can go to,

01:02:01.620 where all the Palestinians can go to.

01:02:03.860 So, they're going to get, it's not going to be Israel, of course.

01:02:06.680 You know, that whole, when we get, oh, well, you have to accept all these refugees because you bomb their country.

01:02:12.160 Right. Right. Well, Israel's the one bombing, but they're not accepting all of the refugees.

01:02:17.580 It's funny how that works. You don't actually have to do that, funnily enough.

01:02:22.040 The obvious place to send them, assuming Egypt will just refuse, Jordan will just refuse, is then the West Bank.

01:02:28.560 But that's no good for Israel either, is it?

01:02:31.140 They want rid of them for good.

01:02:33.700 I mean, the obvious thing to do is to adhere to the agreement of the Israeli settlement that we gave them in the first place

01:02:40.720 and not disturb them at all. Aren't they breaking our agreement?

01:02:44.520 So, the last place it should be is Britain, because we insisted upon them staying there.

01:02:49.780 The Israelis have broken their word, and as far as I'm concerned, I would sooner, you know,

01:02:53.560 take action against Israel and accept these refugees.

01:02:56.860 Not, wouldn't even, you know, wouldn't even have to think about it.

01:03:01.480 But, yeah, yeah, it'd be an absolute no-brainer that no, and if you keep putting pressure on us, Israel,

01:03:06.720 we'll shut your embassy or something. No. It's a hard no, thank you very much, from me.

01:03:12.040 They've explicitly gone against our agreement that we had, right?

01:03:16.340 Plus, also, from the Palestinians' point of view, from Hamas' point of view,

01:03:20.820 you already displaced us. I hate to play devil's advocate on their behalf,

01:03:24.820 but you already displaced us from our villages that are now in Israel,

01:03:29.940 and so now you want to send us to Britain or Indonesia.

01:03:33.900 It's like, no, that's the opposite of our ultimate goal.

01:03:37.520 So, yeah, it just seems that Israel are hell-bent on clearing the Gaza Strip

01:03:41.940 of all the people there, regardless of anything,

01:03:45.440 regardless of what damage or disruption it causes to the entire world.

01:03:50.200 But, of course, not every country in the world is foolish enough to take them.

01:03:56.440 Right.

01:03:56.720 And this is, you know, you can see this is an article from over a year ago,

01:04:00.940 with Belgium has the most Palestinian asylum seekers in the EU.

01:04:06.600 It says since...

01:04:07.660 Tiny little Belgium. Belgium's tiny.

01:04:10.320 Since March, Palestinians have been the largest group of asylum seekers in Belgium,

01:04:15.100 according to a commission, in June of 2024.

01:04:21.060 301 Palestinians applied for asylum in Belgium,

01:04:24.500 and in March this year, Palestinians became the largest group of the applicants.

01:04:31.320 But the guy goes on to say,

01:04:34.040 moreover, about half of the Palestinian asylum seekers

01:04:36.780 have already received international protection in other EU countries,

01:04:41.480 and this places an additional burden on them.

01:04:43.740 So, of course, Brussels are going to want to divvy them up

01:04:47.020 in the other European countries, right?

01:04:50.280 Oh, they didn't immediately start loving cheese and become big Poirot fans.

01:04:55.180 Oh, that's a surprise.

01:04:56.960 They do have excellent chocolate there, though.

01:04:59.080 But that was 2024, so let's go to this year, shall we?

01:05:02.240 This was just last month.

01:05:04.560 Knife attack in the 18th of Paris.

01:05:06.740 Paris, a Palestinian arrested.

01:05:09.380 Both the man stabbed and the man arrested were Palestinians.

01:05:13.780 So, shape of things to come, I suppose.

01:05:17.760 But then you have this.

01:05:18.800 The French court grants refugee status to Gazans

01:05:22.360 outside of the United Nations mandate for the first time.

01:05:26.580 And it goes on to say that they've ruled that Palestinian nationals from Gaza,

01:05:31.360 who are not under the United Nations protection,

01:05:33.880 may be granted refugee status under the 1951 Geneva Convention,

01:05:39.340 citing the conduct of Israeli military operations in the enclave.

01:05:44.920 Someone got the memo from Bibi.

01:05:48.380 We're clearing them out.

01:05:49.400 Do whatever you've got to do.

01:05:50.580 Say whatever you've got to do.

01:05:51.480 They're getting cleared out.

01:05:52.380 This is the point.

01:05:53.940 It doesn't matter whether you're in the convention

01:05:56.500 or you're outside of the convention.

01:05:59.000 There are enough lawyers working for these people.

01:06:01.580 There are enough do-gooders

01:06:03.500 and just enemies of European peoples, right?

01:06:07.900 That it is coming.

01:06:10.220 In our current state, they are coming.

01:06:13.520 If Jess Phillips has got anything to say about it, they are.

01:06:15.700 We're not the world's solution to the problems, you know.

01:06:19.120 And you've rejected colonialism across the world.

01:06:22.380 So, you know, your problems are your own.

01:06:26.200 Get on with it.

01:06:26.940 It's nothing to do with us.

01:06:28.960 You know, Israel, Palestine, I don't really care.

01:06:32.160 It's nothing to do with me.

01:06:33.460 It's not our war.

01:06:34.560 No, I've got my own problems at home,

01:06:36.320 fighting for my own people.

01:06:38.060 And, you know, I understand it must be difficult

01:06:40.180 for many of the Palestinians that, you know,

01:06:43.360 there was an agreement which the Israelis broke.

01:06:45.920 But at the same time, it's not our problem to solve, is it?

01:06:52.760 We're not that important in that region anymore.

01:06:55.900 No.

01:06:56.300 And what's more, you always get it trotted out by them, don't you?

01:06:59.300 It's like, oh, well, Britain has a long history,

01:07:01.600 proud history of helping refugees.

01:07:03.700 It's like, yeah, we did.

01:07:05.660 And then we sent it back as well.

01:07:07.220 But right up until you kind of just, you know,

01:07:11.420 took the biscuit with, and by importing millions

01:07:14.860 and millions of people, right, changing our homeland,

01:07:18.460 putting us in this existential place of threat.

01:07:21.280 Well, we've got all the priorities now.

01:07:23.380 Yeah, we could take 30,000 Huguenots at one time,

01:07:26.420 but those days are behind us, right?

01:07:28.340 This is where we are now.

01:07:29.480 This is how things are.

01:07:31.240 And we're not having, at the one time you want to,

01:07:35.500 the heritage of Britain, the heritage of England.

01:07:38.740 It's like, it's to further dismantle us and put us under threat, right?

01:07:43.120 That's all it is.

01:07:43.960 It's all it is.

01:07:45.500 So, yeah, the French granted refugee status.

01:07:48.860 That didn't last long.

01:07:50.520 France halts all evacuations from Gaza

01:07:53.180 over alleged antisemitic reposts by a Palestinian student

01:07:58.680 who came to France.

01:08:00.440 That seems like a pretty tenuous excuse,

01:08:03.620 but it's a good way of getting out of it, I guess.

01:08:05.340 Right.

01:08:05.800 Well, it just goes back to that point, doesn't it?

01:08:07.800 It's like, well, what stopped it?

01:08:09.360 Well, it wasn't the crime.

01:08:13.240 Oh, no.

01:08:13.800 It wasn't the crime happening on the streets.

01:08:16.040 It was, shockingly, a Palestinian

01:08:19.120 not having a very positive view of Israel.

01:08:23.560 I think that's to be expected.

01:08:24.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:25.880 To be honest.

01:08:27.140 Also, you know, it doesn't detail what the nature of the post was,

01:08:30.800 so it's such a loose term.

01:08:32.360 It could be anything.

01:08:33.120 It's mad to watch sort of wokest virtue signalers

01:08:37.560 being bashed from pillar to post.

01:08:41.040 It's like, oh, the virtue signaling correct thing to do

01:08:43.520 is to take in Garzans.

01:08:44.840 Oh, no, but they are antisemitic, though, also,

01:08:46.960 but just vacillating.

01:08:49.580 Like, just do what's in the best interest of your people.

01:08:53.260 That's not that hard.

01:08:53.980 I think they squared that circle

01:08:56.380 by sort of embracing some degree of antisemitism,

01:09:01.380 haven't they,

01:09:01.960 in that they just don't care about it anymore.

01:09:04.040 Like, you look at the US college campuses,

01:09:07.020 and to be honest,

01:09:07.920 it was heavily, heavily handedly dealt with by Trump,

01:09:11.700 but there we go.

01:09:13.540 What happened to free speech there, eh?

01:09:14.820 But it's becoming, obviously,

01:09:18.400 an ever more intractable problem,

01:09:19.820 because now you have European countries

01:09:22.440 just swelling demographically

01:09:24.480 with people from the Middle East,

01:09:26.900 who obviously have huge ethno-religious loyalty

01:09:30.500 to the Garzans.

01:09:32.300 What?

01:09:32.640 They might have an in-group preference of their own

01:09:34.440 that they bring with them?

01:09:35.820 But then also,

01:09:36.880 because of the post-war world,

01:09:38.720 you have this paranoia,

01:09:42.360 even up to the elites, right,

01:09:43.820 about just anything slightly critical of Israel.

01:09:47.300 It's like, we can't have that,

01:09:48.340 or if we're not gunning for them, then.

01:09:50.400 So you've got this thing

01:09:51.760 where these two things

01:09:53.100 are just creating conflict every single time.

01:09:56.180 And it's on our soil.

01:09:58.340 And it's on our soil,

01:10:00.600 in our continent,

01:10:02.540 for a group of people

01:10:03.820 who have different homelands.

01:10:06.060 Yeah, importing foreign conflicts

01:10:07.280 is just not our business.

01:10:09.340 It's annoying enough

01:10:10.320 when India and Pakistan play in cricket

01:10:12.180 because we see it on the street.

01:10:14.380 You can see Germany here

01:10:16.020 having to figure out this conundrum as well,

01:10:20.180 conflicted over the project

01:10:21.380 to rescue children from Gaza.

01:10:24.920 So, and again, it's always,

01:10:26.620 and I hate this

01:10:27.420 because it makes me feel like a dick, right?

01:10:29.880 I know what you're going to say.

01:10:31.380 To be like, no,

01:10:32.540 we're not taking in, like,

01:10:33.940 wounded or really, really ill children.

01:10:36.220 I don't like saying that sentence, right?

01:10:38.320 It doesn't make me feel good

01:10:39.420 to say that sentence, right?

01:10:41.120 Because it is really horrible

01:10:42.400 what's happening there.

01:10:44.160 But you know what all this leads to.

01:10:46.400 It's a vanguard.

01:10:47.200 Well, take 30 children

01:10:48.700 and then all the families have got to come

01:10:50.820 and then it's 10,000 more

01:10:52.560 and then before you know it.

01:10:55.040 And I hate it.

01:10:56.420 I hate the cynicism,

01:10:57.560 but it's true.

01:10:59.020 It's the classic thing

01:10:59.820 that has been used to manipulate us

01:11:01.320 over and over and over again.

01:11:02.660 Look at this one drowned child

01:11:04.600 that washed up somewhere.

01:11:06.520 Look at this one...

01:11:07.260 Loaded by their parents, by the way.

01:11:09.080 Look at this one girl from Kuwait City

01:11:11.240 that was treated badly.

01:11:12.860 Oh, we must go to war then.

01:11:13.840 Look at this one child

01:11:15.100 that washed up on the Rio Grande

01:11:17.080 or something.

01:11:17.540 Oh, you know you're being manipulated.

01:11:19.100 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:19.900 And you're quite right.

01:11:21.220 I couldn't agree with you more.

01:11:22.560 It's horrible to say it on paper,

01:11:23.800 on the face of it.

01:11:24.720 It seems insanely heartless.

01:11:27.620 But no, it's a tool,

01:11:29.640 a mechanism to manipulate us.

01:11:32.700 Yeah.

01:11:33.340 It's also possible to send people

01:11:35.300 to other countries to help as well.

01:11:37.420 They don't actually have to

01:11:38.480 physically come to Britain.

01:11:39.840 In fact, logistically speaking,

01:11:41.080 if they're really sick,

01:11:42.000 the journey might endanger them

01:11:44.540 more than actually treating them

01:11:46.020 closer to home.

01:11:47.340 So, ideally, the best thing to do...

01:11:50.060 I mean, I do actually want

01:11:51.920 to help those children.

01:11:53.960 I think the best thing to do

01:11:54.920 is find a way to make it work

01:11:56.420 either within Palestine or Gaza itself,

01:11:59.640 obviously a bit dangerous,

01:12:01.300 or a surrounding country

01:12:03.060 and find some agreement with Israel

01:12:05.260 where you can at least take children

01:12:06.940 and no adults.

01:12:09.100 And they can't take exception to that

01:12:10.860 because it would make them look

01:12:11.820 even more terrible

01:12:13.280 on the international stage

01:12:14.480 than they already do.

01:12:15.260 It should obviously be

01:12:16.680 the West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon,

01:12:19.880 Syria, Egypt.

01:12:23.120 If those people from Gaza City

01:12:26.040 are going to be displaced,

01:12:28.520 if that's what NETI has decided

01:12:30.220 the policy is,

01:12:32.040 then those places should be

01:12:33.980 the places that take them.

01:12:34.880 Indonesia, not Sudan,

01:12:38.580 certainly not Germany or Belgium

01:12:40.340 or England, for God's sakes.

01:12:42.740 It's madness.

01:12:43.460 The former country is a Muslim, right?

01:12:45.520 Indonesia, Sudan has got

01:12:47.960 a Muslim population.

01:12:49.000 I can't remember if it's majority.

01:12:50.200 Even the governments of Indonesia

01:12:51.600 and Sudan aren't that short-sighted

01:12:55.900 and political weaklings.

01:12:58.300 Even they are like,

01:12:59.180 no thank you.

01:13:00.380 Thanks, but no thanks.

01:13:01.780 It's big volumes, isn't it?

01:13:03.200 South Sudan,

01:13:04.340 which was the part of Sudan

01:13:05.660 they mentioned,

01:13:06.260 is only 6% Muslim as well.

01:13:08.960 So they're in a sort of similar boat

01:13:10.480 to Britain, ironically,

01:13:11.780 because we're about 6% Muslim as well.

01:13:14.540 And isn't Indonesia

01:13:15.300 or is it Malaysia?

01:13:16.020 I think it's Indonesia.

01:13:16.800 It's like the most populous

01:13:17.600 Muslim country in the world.

01:13:18.820 Yes.

01:13:19.300 And it's just an endless number

01:13:21.680 of islands in Indonesia.

01:13:23.120 They probably could

01:13:24.620 find an island

01:13:26.340 or an island chain

01:13:27.220 or two

01:13:27.840 to resettle

01:13:29.500 a few 10,000

01:13:32.160 Gazans on.

01:13:33.720 They probably could do that.

01:13:35.080 As long as it's not

01:13:35.640 Western Papua,

01:13:36.520 which they illegally annexed

01:13:37.980 from Papua New Guinea.

01:13:39.580 No one ever talks about

01:13:40.380 that one, do they?

01:13:41.060 Oh, Colin,

01:13:41.660 you'll have to do a segment

01:13:42.500 on that.

01:13:43.020 I already have.

01:13:43.860 Well, I'll have to watch it.

01:13:46.020 It's East Timor

01:13:46.880 an Indonesian thing as well.

01:13:49.180 I should know more about that.

01:13:50.440 Anyway.

01:13:52.860 But really,

01:13:53.580 the other thing as well

01:13:54.340 is just when they say,

01:13:55.540 oh, you know,

01:13:55.920 have you no compassion?

01:13:57.040 Have you no empathy

01:13:57.660 for the children?

01:13:58.820 It's like, yeah, I do

01:13:59.620 for the British children.

01:14:01.200 Right.

01:14:01.760 And this is the thing.

01:14:02.560 Well, it always comes down to it.

01:14:04.140 It's like,

01:14:04.480 it's not a question of

01:14:05.700 whether you have compassion

01:14:07.260 or not.

01:14:09.120 Right.

01:14:09.960 There's not a single person

01:14:11.040 at this panel

01:14:11.480 who doesn't have compassion

01:14:12.740 or empathy.

01:14:13.780 But it's like,

01:14:14.640 who do you most

01:14:15.320 prioritize it for?

01:14:16.920 And that's all

01:14:17.720 any person really does.

01:14:19.460 Right.

01:14:19.760 And our priority

01:14:20.740 is obviously with

01:14:22.500 the children

01:14:23.160 of this country.

01:14:24.700 Right.

01:14:25.000 The British children

01:14:25.800 of this country.

01:14:27.160 And there's nothing

01:14:28.360 wrong with that.

01:14:29.520 Right.

01:14:30.100 If it shouldn't

01:14:31.200 be any other way,

01:14:33.060 shouldn't be getting

01:14:33.680 morally guilt tripped

01:14:34.720 into prioritizing

01:14:36.000 another country's children.

01:14:38.000 It's just how you

01:14:39.000 extract resources

01:14:39.860 out of people

01:14:40.400 is you try and give them

01:14:41.580 an outgroup preference,

01:14:42.780 don't you?

01:14:44.700 So anyway,

01:14:45.820 as you can see here

01:14:46.900 reported by the BBC,

01:14:49.080 bring sick children

01:14:50.380 and injured children

01:14:51.420 to the UK from Gaza

01:14:53.020 immediately,

01:14:54.420 MPs are saying,

01:14:56.020 a cross-party group

01:14:57.040 of MPs

01:14:57.700 has written to the government

01:14:58.820 urging them to bring

01:15:00.020 the sick and injured.

01:15:01.900 In a letter to senior ministers,

01:15:03.560 96 MPs

01:15:05.340 stress children

01:15:06.960 are at risk

01:15:07.640 of imminent death

01:15:08.660 and any barriers

01:15:09.920 to their evacuation

01:15:11.100 should be lifted.

01:15:13.460 Excuse me.

01:15:14.740 Says,

01:15:15.040 and the letter

01:15:16.760 also calls

01:15:17.840 for children

01:15:18.800 and their families

01:15:19.920 to have the option

01:15:20.960 of claiming asylum

01:15:22.060 or resettling

01:15:23.340 in the UK

01:15:23.920 once the treatment

01:15:24.960 is completed.

01:15:26.040 Of course.

01:15:26.620 Traitors.

01:15:27.700 It's like,

01:15:28.020 it's always there.

01:15:29.560 It's always there.

01:15:30.400 You mask it

01:15:31.200 with something,

01:15:32.720 you know,

01:15:33.320 so compassionate.

01:15:34.260 So just morally,

01:15:35.360 uncontestably morally good.

01:15:37.320 And then you load it

01:15:38.700 with something like that.

01:15:41.440 I'll skip on a bit.

01:15:43.520 So it goes on to say

01:15:44.760 that the,

01:15:47.860 yeah, sorry,

01:15:48.440 the first group

01:15:49.360 of girls and children

01:15:50.180 to be brought to the UK

01:15:51.280 in the coming weeks.

01:15:52.900 And this is current.

01:15:53.800 This is a current headline now.

01:15:55.760 Obviously now finally

01:15:56.920 addressing England.

01:15:58.300 And they will be

01:15:59.420 the first children

01:16:00.640 brought to the UK

01:16:01.420 for treatment

01:16:02.020 as part of the government

01:16:02.920 operation

01:16:03.580 being coordinated

01:16:04.980 by the Foreign Office,

01:16:06.820 Home Office

01:16:07.400 and the Department of Health.

01:16:09.380 And the children

01:16:10.060 will be selected

01:16:11.060 according to the need

01:16:12.400 by doctors

01:16:13.880 working for the

01:16:14.740 Hamas-run health ministry

01:16:16.640 before the World Health Organization

01:16:19.680 coordinates travels.

01:16:21.640 And it goes on to say

01:16:22.540 it's unclear

01:16:23.040 which third country

01:16:24.720 the children

01:16:25.580 will transit through

01:16:26.740 on their way

01:16:28.000 to the UK

01:16:28.540 and exactly how many

01:16:30.120 children will be involved

01:16:31.240 or whether further groups

01:16:32.440 will follow,

01:16:33.600 which they will.

01:16:35.100 And the host country

01:16:36.440 agrees to cover

01:16:37.720 the cost of treatment

01:16:38.940 including mental health support

01:16:41.540 as well as housing

01:16:42.540 and living needs

01:16:43.780 for the patient

01:16:44.380 and their companions.

01:16:46.280 And yeah,

01:16:47.200 and this,

01:16:47.700 there was also

01:16:48.500 a group work,

01:16:49.340 I didn't jot down

01:16:50.800 the name,

01:16:51.720 but there was

01:16:52.560 a group here

01:16:54.000 that was,

01:16:55.300 sorry,

01:16:55.660 I should have made

01:16:56.100 a note of it,

01:16:57.300 hosted by

01:16:58.220 Dr. Farzana Rahman,

01:17:01.440 again,

01:17:02.300 just head of an NGO,

01:17:03.740 refugee charities

01:17:05.780 helping to coordinate

01:17:07.120 all of this.

01:17:09.020 And it's just really...

01:17:11.580 So let me get this straight,

01:17:12.360 let me get this straight.

01:17:13.340 So there's an ancient

01:17:14.340 desert feud

01:17:15.220 between Judaism

01:17:16.200 and Islam.

01:17:17.800 Massive land grab

01:17:18.860 in the late 40s,

01:17:20.640 an interminable war

01:17:21.760 since then

01:17:22.500 where both sides

01:17:23.680 are extremely brutal

01:17:24.560 to each other.

01:17:25.800 Net result is

01:17:26.880 we have to accept

01:17:28.120 terrorists

01:17:28.540 into our land.

01:17:30.720 More or less.

01:17:31.440 Thousands of miles away.

01:17:32.240 Oh.

01:17:35.000 Makes perfect sense.

01:17:37.340 Yeah, it does.

01:17:38.580 But, um,

01:17:39.380 so obviously,

01:17:40.320 as always,

01:17:40.900 you can count on Rupert

01:17:43.060 for the correct opinion

01:17:44.480 on all of this,

01:17:45.520 which is just that

01:17:46.220 the BBC reports

01:17:47.620 that 30 to 50

01:17:48.640 guards and children

01:17:49.420 will be brought to the UK

01:17:50.500 for medical assistance.

01:17:52.200 Nobody else will say it,

01:17:53.460 but this is madness.

01:17:54.620 It is not our responsibility.

01:17:56.680 The BBC reports

01:17:57.860 it is understood

01:17:58.700 that some may enter

01:18:00.540 the asylum system

01:18:01.660 after completing treatment,

01:18:04.000 they will all stay,

01:18:05.140 they will all stay

01:18:05.960 with their families

01:18:06.780 forever.

01:18:08.060 There is now,

01:18:08.880 essentially,

01:18:09.460 a Palestinian refugee scheme.

01:18:11.900 Hundreds will turn

01:18:12.760 into thousands.

01:18:14.060 The answer has to be

01:18:15.200 sorry,

01:18:15.940 but the answer is no.

01:18:17.420 Not when British children

01:18:18.580 are suffering

01:18:19.240 and even dying

01:18:20.080 because of delays

01:18:20.880 in medical care.

01:18:22.160 I will be called

01:18:23.060 a vile monster,

01:18:24.080 but we must put

01:18:24.700 British children first.

01:18:25.920 I make no apologies

01:18:27.300 for stating that.

01:18:28.640 Yeah.

01:18:29.720 Quite right.

01:18:31.180 Yeah, true leadership

01:18:33.200 from Rupert.

01:18:35.000 Just sensible.

01:18:37.120 A bit of moral backbone.

01:18:38.740 I mean,

01:18:39.000 it used to be,

01:18:40.300 it's crazy that he seems

01:18:42.420 like he's one of the only ones

01:18:43.840 with an actual moral compass

01:18:46.400 and the balls to say it.

01:18:48.620 How mad that he's

01:18:49.740 this one independent MP.

01:18:51.580 It's like an anomaly, really,

01:18:53.380 how he's even managed

01:18:54.640 to get into Parliament.

01:18:56.120 He's a decent human being.

01:18:58.360 I didn't know it was possible.

01:18:59.760 But obviously,

01:19:00.860 the point is that

01:19:01.960 Rupert, for now,

01:19:03.280 is just one man.

01:19:04.720 And we all know

01:19:06.360 that the people

01:19:07.520 who are advocating

01:19:08.820 for the Gazans

01:19:10.060 to come to the United Kingdom

01:19:11.440 are pushing at an open door.

01:19:14.160 They will start coming,

01:19:15.600 right?

01:19:15.880 And they will start trickling

01:19:16.940 in more and more.

01:19:18.280 And that's the future

01:19:20.400 for this year.

01:19:22.580 I don't know what to tell you.

01:19:23.900 There it is.

01:19:25.580 All right.

01:19:26.420 Go to the video comments.

01:19:27.820 Thank you.

01:19:30.180 Hey, guys.

01:19:31.000 Go and subscribe

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01:19:34.220 Every Monday

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01:19:42.480 And also, Carl,

01:19:43.620 I know the event

01:19:44.960 that you're going to be attending

01:19:45.940 later on this year

01:19:46.900 in Australia,

01:19:47.480 I actually submitted

01:19:48.620 an idea

01:19:49.260 for a talk

01:19:50.860 that I could give

01:19:51.700 regarding that.

01:19:53.040 So, hopefully,

01:19:53.820 if I get in,

01:19:54.700 we'll be able

01:19:55.280 to meet in person.

01:19:58.660 I'll mention it to Carl

01:19:59.760 because he's obviously

01:20:00.340 not on the panel today,

01:20:01.220 but I will mention that to him.

01:20:02.640 I didn't know

01:20:03.140 he was going to Australia.

01:20:04.380 No, nor did I.

01:20:05.500 He never tells us nothing.

01:20:06.380 So, the secret is out

01:20:11.940 that C.S. Cooper

01:20:13.100 is helping me edit

01:20:14.280 one of my books.

01:20:15.620 And what it is,

01:20:16.820 is basically

01:20:17.660 the most traditional

01:20:20.100 fairy tale

01:20:21.060 that you can think of

01:20:22.240 that plays into

01:20:23.120 all of the fairy tale tropes.

01:20:25.300 Doesn't mock them,

01:20:25.940 just play into them.

01:20:27.400 And I wanted to write

01:20:28.560 a female main character

01:20:29.680 whose virtues

01:20:30.720 is that she is good,

01:20:32.560 loyal, kind,

01:20:33.960 pure of heart

01:20:34.720 and the only one

01:20:36.580 to wield the weapon

01:20:37.540 is the prince.

01:20:39.140 It will be a while

01:20:40.180 before it's out

01:20:40.840 because I want to do

01:20:42.040 illustrations for it

01:20:43.140 and making illustrations

01:20:44.440 take a lot of time.

01:20:49.000 Best of luck with that.

01:20:50.140 Yeah, I hope it all

01:20:50.660 comes together.

01:20:51.240 Good endeavour.

01:20:52.200 Also, well done to Cooper

01:20:54.500 for helping the community.

01:20:56.020 It's good to see people

01:20:57.020 being brought together

01:20:57.860 by Lotus Eaters.

01:20:59.260 Working together

01:21:00.060 to create things.

01:21:01.180 That's what it's all about, really.

01:21:02.980 Writing itself

01:21:05.000 is extremely time-consuming

01:21:06.340 I've always found.

01:21:07.060 Anyway, sorry, carry on.

01:21:09.400 Come all brother tradesmen

01:21:13.100 that travel along

01:21:16.340 Oh pray can you tell me

01:21:19.540 where the trade is all gone

01:21:22.360 Let's hope that these hard times

01:21:25.860 they will not last long

01:21:28.880 Soon I'll have occasion

01:21:31.780 To order the song

01:21:34.920 And sing all the good times

01:21:38.200 Provided

01:21:39.160 I feel like I need a pint now.

01:21:41.980 I love Steel Eyespan

01:21:42.980 One of my favorite

01:21:43.580 Oh, they've got some great albums

01:21:45.000 Really great albums

01:21:46.340 Yeah, I'm going to be doing

01:21:47.420 the folk circuit soon enough

01:21:49.340 Big folk fan

01:21:50.700 Really?

01:21:51.820 Yeah

01:21:52.080 Yeah, I think it's necessary

01:21:54.740 It's a part of the living tradition

01:21:56.260 of England, isn't it?

01:21:58.400 There's some good folk nights

01:21:59.860 in Swindon actually

01:22:00.640 surprisingly

01:22:01.180 The actual locals about

01:22:03.220 Spirit of England

01:22:07.040 I don't know what you're looking at

01:22:07.700 Spirit of England

01:22:08.540 I thought you were going to say something

01:22:09.880 You said

01:22:10.180 No, I've got nothing

01:22:12.040 Just shocked into silence

01:22:13.300 I don't know anything

01:22:14.560 about the folk scene

01:22:16.060 Folk music scene

01:22:17.240 I'm afraid

01:22:17.720 In Swindon?

01:22:18.500 I've got nothing

01:22:18.980 Or at all

01:22:20.060 Sorry

01:22:20.540 Sorry

01:22:21.340 So much great music there

01:22:22.580 It's one of my blind spots

01:22:23.780 I know nothing about it

01:22:25.960 Sorry

01:22:26.280 Do an epochs on the history

01:22:27.820 of English folk music

01:22:29.020 if you want

01:22:29.580 I certainly know that

01:22:31.000 Hello, Lotus Eaters

01:22:33.520 Longtime fan of the God King Sargon here

01:22:36.160 I wanted to add context to the segment

01:22:38.080 since I live near the Florida truck crash site

01:22:40.320 and often drive that road

01:22:41.480 There are many U-turn spots on the highway

01:22:43.900 but they're always clearly marked

01:22:45.420 for emergency vehicles only

01:22:46.960 They're so that they can make quick turnarounds

01:22:48.840 to respond to road accidents

01:22:50.120 without having to go 20 miles

01:22:51.980 to the next exit to turn around

01:22:53.440 Here's a similar sign on that very road

01:22:55.480 In California

01:22:56.520 it's easy to get a state ID

01:22:58.040 with minimal proof

01:22:59.040 That ID can then be used

01:23:00.180 to illegally get a commercial driver's license

01:23:02.260 So it's about that

01:23:05.300 Sikh guy that killed free people

01:23:07.900 Yeah

01:23:08.200 I saw someone suggest

01:23:10.800 that he might be the same guy

01:23:12.040 that crashed a bridge

01:23:14.140 in the south somewhere as well

01:23:16.120 Really?

01:23:16.920 Yeah, five years before

01:23:18.020 I do think that was a bit odd

01:23:20.600 I didn't actually watch the segment

01:23:22.100 I think Carl did the segment yesterday about it

01:23:23.940 I didn't watch his segment

01:23:24.740 but a couple of super quick things about it

01:23:27.220 It's clear

01:23:27.720 because I saw some people

01:23:28.560 trying to defend him

01:23:29.280 saying what he was just doing a U-turn

01:23:31.200 like you're allowed to do U-turns there

01:23:33.060 that's what the

01:23:33.660 that's there for

01:23:34.660 and all that sort of thing

01:23:35.420 but it was obviously being negligent

01:23:37.600 obviously being negligent

01:23:39.100 And not in a truck like that

01:23:40.880 Yeah

01:23:41.400 Clearly not

01:23:42.360 The other thing is

01:23:44.940 It's a bit harsh to say

01:23:46.360 but

01:23:46.680 did the people that crashed into it

01:23:49.400 not see him doing it

01:23:50.500 though?

01:23:51.520 Like

01:23:51.720 he was doing it quite slowly

01:23:53.320 I'm not trying to put any blame on the victims

01:23:56.680 I'm not saying that

01:23:57.220 but

01:23:57.440 did they not see a

01:23:59.200 giant lorry

01:24:00.780 doing a

01:24:01.240 like doing a U-turn

01:24:03.000 in front of it

01:24:05.020 I don't know

01:24:05.580 it's horrible

01:24:06.440 It's just a horrible

01:24:07.180 Stop isn't it?

01:24:08.000 It's just a horrible thing

01:24:09.020 all round

01:24:09.760 Yeah

01:24:10.040 The fact that his expression

01:24:11.240 barely changed

01:24:12.100 is insane

01:24:12.700 That's insane

01:24:13.760 Anyway

01:24:14.440 Anyway

01:24:14.780 What a beautiful culture

01:24:29.060 Wow

01:24:29.500 that noise

01:24:30.100 is just so musical

01:24:31.400 Madness

01:24:32.680 Madness

01:24:34.640 When we win

01:24:39.380 this will be the cue

01:24:40.300 to deportation

01:24:41.400 It's just that

01:24:45.320 isn't it

01:24:45.700 Everyone's celebrating that

01:24:47.180 Oh we love Pakistan so much

01:24:49.060 like

01:24:49.320 Happy Independence Day

01:24:50.500 We'll do anything

01:24:51.540 for it

01:24:52.240 apart from living it

01:24:53.300 Yeah

01:24:53.440 apart from live there

01:24:54.140 yeah right

01:24:54.540 yeah yeah

01:24:55.100 I do really hope

01:24:57.400 perhaps it's a far right fantasy

01:24:58.980 but

01:25:00.860 I do really hope

01:25:02.140 that future generations

01:25:03.080 will look back on clips like that

01:25:04.460 and say

01:25:04.820 wow

01:25:05.220 what a crazy thing

01:25:06.640 that that was ever

01:25:07.400 the case

01:25:08.060 thank god

01:25:08.360 I don't live in that

01:25:09.080 Britain anymore

01:25:09.880 That strange blip in English history

01:25:11.680 Yeah

01:25:11.980 Yeah

01:25:12.680 Any differences

01:25:13.560 they'll be saying it in Urdu

01:25:14.700 No

01:25:16.140 Hopefully not

01:25:17.360 Alright

01:25:18.560 Do you want to go through

01:25:19.340 your comments

01:25:19.960 Sure

01:25:20.940 Do we have

01:25:22.500 some rumble rants

01:25:23.760 as well

01:25:24.100 before

01:25:24.460 A couple of quick rumble rants

01:25:25.580 Oh sure

01:25:25.980 Habsification says

01:25:27.620 there are

01:25:28.360 2.2

01:25:29.700 2.3 million

01:25:30.760 Gazans

01:25:31.320 and the Israelis

01:25:32.700 want to land grab

01:25:33.520 move the Gazans

01:25:34.600 to a different country

01:25:35.620 yeah

01:25:37.100 and it ain't looking good

01:25:38.160 true

01:25:38.500 Habsification

01:25:39.780 says

01:25:40.300 again

01:25:40.980 I don't want

01:25:42.140 these people here

01:25:42.960 this will cause

01:25:44.460 problems

01:25:45.040 they've been kicked out

01:25:46.120 of every other country

01:25:47.560 they were letting

01:25:48.200 Kuwait

01:25:48.740 Egypt

01:25:49.240 Jordan

01:25:49.660 Lebanon

01:25:50.080 Saudi Arabia

01:25:50.960 yeah

01:25:51.640 absolutely

01:25:52.200 and

01:25:53.180 that's

01:25:53.760 the thing

01:25:54.600 isn't it

01:25:54.900 the people

01:25:55.600 the do-gooders

01:25:56.360 who want them over here

01:25:57.320 have no moral consideration

01:25:59.320 for

01:26:00.940 the people

01:26:01.780 or you know

01:26:02.320 for us

01:26:02.940 whatsoever

01:26:03.700 you know

01:26:04.640 you're more likely

01:26:05.540 to cover it up

01:26:06.460 if a Palestinian

01:26:07.880 did something wrong

01:26:08.940 the level of

01:26:10.840 criminality

01:26:11.720 radicalisation

01:26:13.160 militism

01:26:14.680 yeah

01:26:15.100 in that

01:26:16.440 in that population

01:26:18.040 is

01:26:18.480 being shown

01:26:19.660 again and again

01:26:20.720 and again

01:26:21.100 to be off the charts

01:26:21.900 it would be a massive

01:26:23.780 mistake

01:26:24.260 anyway

01:26:25.800 some comments

01:26:26.520 for my segment

01:26:27.220 California Refugee

01:26:28.400 says

01:26:28.720 he's got

01:26:30.880 California Refugee

01:26:31.940 Refugee

01:26:32.480 he's twice a refugee

01:26:33.520 sentiment is rising

01:26:35.060 towards saving

01:26:35.660 the English people

01:26:36.380 this is just the start

01:26:37.320 though

01:26:37.580 be smart

01:26:38.680 be prepared

01:26:39.280 set affairs in order

01:26:40.140 if you want to participate

01:26:41.080 they want you in jail

01:26:42.780 for flying

01:26:43.260 a flag

01:26:44.280 jail is full of people

01:26:45.480 who want you dead

01:26:46.280 that's probably true

01:26:47.980 I'm far too well spoken

01:26:50.000 to be in jail

01:26:50.680 and I definitely

01:26:53.240 need a haircut

01:26:53.940 NorthFC Zuma

01:26:56.360 says

01:26:56.760 I got five

01:26:57.820 England flags

01:26:58.760 for about four quid

01:26:59.500 at Tesco

01:26:59.960 after the women's euros

01:27:01.340 almost felt a bit

01:27:02.340 disrespectful

01:27:02.980 but at least

01:27:03.960 I can put them

01:27:04.560 to good use now

01:27:05.340 in Minecraft

01:27:06.300 it's very easy

01:27:08.400 to build

01:27:08.860 an English flag

01:27:09.640 in Minecraft

01:27:10.060 because it's all

01:27:10.680 squares isn't it

01:27:11.360 so

01:27:11.860 Jimbo G

01:27:14.140 says

01:27:14.440 I love how

01:27:15.200 the Prime Minister

01:27:15.860 has had to

01:27:16.960 begrudgingly come out

01:27:17.780 and say

01:27:18.080 people should be

01:27:18.700 allowed to fly

01:27:19.180 the English flag

01:27:19.920 something is happening

01:27:21.340 yeah

01:27:22.380 I'm pretty sure

01:27:23.580 Keir Starmer said that

01:27:24.720 yeah

01:27:27.640 yeah

01:27:27.800 go ahead

01:27:28.180 from your segment

01:27:29.300 Bo

01:27:29.600 Alex

01:27:30.480 Ptolemy says

01:27:31.660 sorry

01:27:32.140 it says here

01:27:32.800 in my constitution

01:27:34.600 that I can never

01:27:35.460 lose a war

01:27:36.140 so sorry

01:27:37.040 Russia

01:27:37.300 you have to give up

01:27:38.340 it's as insane

01:27:41.020 as that

01:27:41.300 isn't it

01:27:41.560 really

01:27:41.840 well I'm surprised

01:27:43.400 the White House

01:27:44.040 are accepting

01:27:45.340 that

01:27:45.740 right

01:27:46.680 I'm sure

01:27:47.360 it's probably

01:27:47.840 in the back room

01:27:48.660 you're like

01:27:49.060 yeah well

01:27:50.460 obviously

01:27:50.980 but

01:27:51.440 just come on

01:27:52.860 at least give

01:27:53.820 a better reason

01:27:55.040 than that

01:27:55.640 I imagine

01:27:57.120 that as many

01:27:57.860 of the groups

01:27:58.300 won't accept

01:27:59.400 surrender

01:27:59.960 we've got

01:28:03.560 Brian Tomlinson

01:28:04.260 here as well

01:28:04.860 says

01:28:05.180 you've convinced

01:28:05.840 me Josh

01:28:06.280 save the union

01:28:07.100 to save the firm

01:28:08.060 clan

01:28:08.460 damn it

01:28:11.140 I didn't mean

01:28:11.620 to do that

01:28:12.180 and

01:28:13.600 then from

01:28:14.700 my son

01:28:15.500 we've got

01:28:15.920 Korax8

01:28:16.560 he says

01:28:17.100 there's a good

01:28:17.840 reason for Egypt

01:28:18.760 not taking the

01:28:19.640 Gazans

01:28:20.080 they've been a

01:28:20.640 source of

01:28:21.040 terrorism in Egypt

01:28:21.840 for years

01:28:22.400 if you look at

01:28:23.600 what Mubarak

01:28:24.300 was doing

01:28:24.940 to the

01:28:25.520 Egyptian people

01:28:26.380 during his reign

01:28:27.160 you draw similarities

01:28:28.400 with what

01:28:29.620 two tier queer

01:28:30.820 is doing to us

01:28:31.920 do you know

01:28:33.100 much more about

01:28:34.040 there's absolute

01:28:35.300 reason why

01:28:36.260 Jordan and Egypt

01:28:37.340 don't take them

01:28:38.160 it's not because

01:28:39.040 they're completely

01:28:39.640 heartless

01:28:40.140 no

01:28:40.380 it's because

01:28:40.780 they've been burnt

01:28:41.540 a number of

01:28:42.800 times

01:28:43.300 yeah

01:28:44.640 I mean

01:28:45.640 I was in

01:28:46.400 like the 70s

01:28:47.200 Jordan took

01:28:48.000 in the PLO

01:28:49.440 or load of

01:28:50.240 load of

01:28:50.560 Palestinians

01:28:50.920 and it almost

01:28:52.600 destroyed their

01:28:53.120 country

01:28:53.480 so now they're

01:28:55.020 like yeah

01:28:55.280 we're not doing

01:28:55.600 that again

01:28:56.040 well it's a good

01:28:57.680 point isn't it

01:28:58.460 you know

01:28:58.800 your trust has

01:28:59.480 been burnt

01:29:00.000 so you decide

01:29:00.620 not to do

01:29:01.240 something anymore

01:29:02.000 whereas in our

01:29:02.960 case

01:29:03.300 we just keep

01:29:04.320 doing it again

01:29:05.080 and again

01:29:05.460 and again

01:29:05.960 just keep

01:29:06.740 getting burned

01:29:07.360 Omar Awad

01:29:09.240 says

01:29:09.680 a ridiculous

01:29:10.520 premise

01:29:10.920 they always

01:29:11.820 try to slip

01:29:12.480 through

01:29:12.800 is that

01:29:13.540 they only

01:29:13.880 want

01:29:14.300 the only

01:29:15.760 way to help

01:29:16.200 the third

01:29:16.520 world is to

01:29:17.040 import them

01:29:17.660 into our

01:29:18.260 land instead

01:29:18.820 of improving

01:29:19.460 theirs

01:29:19.880 or sending

01:29:20.880 them somewhere

01:29:21.800 compatible

01:29:22.440 right but even

01:29:23.400 when you send

01:29:24.120 foreign aid or

01:29:25.440 whatever it is

01:29:26.240 over there it

01:29:26.780 all disappears

01:29:27.460 doesn't it

01:29:28.120 so

01:29:28.460 it's funny

01:29:29.240 that

01:29:29.520 yeah

01:29:29.960 vanishes

01:29:30.600 maybe just

01:29:32.080 better to leave

01:29:32.680 them all to

01:29:33.180 it I don't

01:29:33.760 know

01:29:34.040 and California

01:29:36.120 Refugee

01:29:37.100 Refugee

01:29:37.960 says

01:29:38.660 new metagame

01:29:39.640 time to shift

01:29:40.440 from claiming

01:29:41.140 to be a

01:29:41.780 Syrian refugee

01:29:42.700 to a

01:29:43.120 Palestinian refugee

01:29:44.220 still a bunch

01:29:46.200 of

01:29:46.480 still a bunch

01:29:47.720 of Pakistani

01:29:48.320 men

01:29:48.680 yeah

01:29:50.160 yeah

01:29:50.880 and

01:29:52.640 honourable

01:29:53.600 mention

01:29:53.900 says

01:29:54.280 bi-islander

01:29:55.300 from

01:29:55.680 Maria

01:29:56.520 Manzi

01:29:56.960 says

01:29:57.180 bi-islander

01:29:58.240 and the flag

01:29:58.840 to fly

01:29:59.300 proudly

01:30:00.500 don't fry

01:30:01.280 it

01:30:01.780 no

01:30:02.340 don't fry

01:30:03.100 the flag

01:30:03.580 no

01:30:03.940 do fly

01:30:05.080 it

01:30:05.300 alright

01:30:05.980 well

01:30:06.760 that's all

01:30:07.460 we've got

01:30:07.680 time for

01:30:08.120 today

01:30:08.480 ladies and

01:30:08.920 gentlemen

01:30:09.200 I hope

01:30:09.660 you've enjoyed

01:30:10.140 yourself

01:30:10.620 have a

01:30:11.320 good rest

01:30:11.820 of your

01:30:11.980 day

01:30:12.180 and we'll

01:30:12.600 see you

01:30:12.860 at 1pm

01:30:13.360 tomorrow

01:30:13.740 thank you

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 19, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1233

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