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00:00:54.600 Good afternoon, folks. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus East for Monday, the 24th of June.

00:01:09.320 That was Rishi Sanak, obviously endorsing our election night Lotus East to stream.

00:01:13.980 It's going to be amazing. It's going to be a long night, but it will be a really good one.

00:01:18.300 We're going to have some great guests and it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:01:20.320 But today, I'm joined by Beau and Stelios, and today we are going to be talking about whether Nigel Farage is in fact right about Ukraine,

00:01:31.000 whether the Conservatives themselves have suffered a collective stroke because of their propaganda,

00:01:37.220 and why Sadiq Khan hates the English flag.

00:01:40.840 So, I suppose we'll begin.

00:01:42.260 Right, yeah, I thought I would talk all about Ukraine today and that Nigel dared to voice a sort of dissenting view on the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.

00:01:55.600 They're not happy about it, are they?

00:01:56.680 No, right, yeah, the Uniparty, the Party of Davos, whatever you want to call it, do not like that.

00:02:01.540 No.

00:02:02.680 Yeah, Nigel isn't in line with their view.

00:02:05.840 And I wonder if we can have, because he's touched on something a bit deeper, really, is whether we can have a conversation,

00:02:11.960 by we I mean the Western Hemisphere, really, or at least Britain.

00:02:15.180 Can we have an actual grown-up, reasonable, nuanced conversation about the thing?

00:02:21.800 Because that is exactly what the Uniparty don't want you to have.

00:02:24.120 They want you to have the very, very low resolution view that they have.

00:02:28.740 That Zelensky is a modern-day Churchill, i.e. perfect, and Putin is the modern-day Hitler, i.e. the root of all evil.

00:02:37.660 I don't think there was ever a conversation, to be honest.

00:02:40.620 It was just, you're supposed to go, boo, you're supposed to go, hooray.

00:02:44.400 So, there's lots of different, I suppose you could call them, power centers in the world.

00:02:49.400 You know, the Central Committee in Beijing is one.

00:02:53.160 Yeah.

00:02:53.320 You know, the Kremlin is another, and America is one, whether it's the White House,

00:02:58.000 whether it's actually really the State Department in conjunction with the Pentagon.

00:03:02.240 You know, the State Department, the bureaucrats there, and the chiefs over at the Pentagon,

00:03:06.920 have got a certain line, a certain world view, and it seems Britain, for a long, long time,

00:03:14.360 since the war, World War II, has sort of, more or less, nearly always, just gone along with it.

00:03:18.860 Not always, of course, there are examples, you know, we didn't see eye to eye on the Falklands, for example.

00:03:24.740 No, no, no.

00:03:25.400 Or they didn't help us out in the Suez and things, but usually, we do whatever we're told.

00:03:29.080 We're told what we're supposed to think on foreign policy, and we go along with it.

00:03:33.460 And the line is, is that Zelensky is, so of course, if we play this little clip, if anyone remembers this.

00:03:41.340 Have I got control of the mouse?

00:03:42.720 Stumson, are you doing it?

00:03:44.140 I'm not doing anything.

00:03:46.080 Stumson, you do it.

00:03:46.800 So, yeah, if you remember this, there's Pelosi and Kamala, in full sycophant mode.

00:03:57.580 This is all good.

00:03:58.460 Oh, oh, okay.

00:04:02.300 Anyway, and then they give him, they give him an American flag in return.

00:04:06.180 And you can stop, you can stop that.

00:04:07.720 We don't need to see any more of that.

00:04:10.120 It's not quite as bad as the Canadian Parliament, where they had an actual Nazi war criminal.

00:04:14.340 Applaud.

00:04:14.740 The enemy, my enemy is my friend, taken to truly absurd left.

00:04:18.480 Yeah, even if he literally served under Hitler.

00:04:21.640 How many times does the West, or America, have to, do we have to go through this thing,

00:04:26.440 that my enemy is the enemy is my friend, regardless of the blowback years later?

00:04:30.560 You know, like the Mujahideen.

00:04:31.860 Yeah.

00:04:32.380 Or being friends of Saddam during the Iran-Iraq War.

00:04:35.880 Yeah.

00:04:36.080 Being friends with Gaddafi when it suited us.

00:04:37.940 I suppose it's real politic, isn't it?

00:04:40.200 I mean, it's just, it is what it is.

00:04:42.020 But how many times do we have to be sort of forced to back a certain party at one point?

00:04:47.420 When it's clear to me, and this is kind of my take, that there are no goodies in the Russia-Ukraine thing.

00:04:56.020 It's not that Zelensky and Ukraine are the goodies, and Russia and Putin are the baddies.

00:04:59.240 Now, a lot of people will immediately say, ah, you're a pro-Putin apologist, you're an appeaser of the Kremlin.

00:05:05.120 Well, no, no such thing.

00:05:06.620 No such thing.

00:05:07.320 I can be not in favour of sending endless money and men, and Ukrainian men, to their deaths, and not be on board with Putin.

00:05:16.300 If it helps, I don't find that the allegations of being pro-Putin have any teeth to them at all.

00:05:22.720 I'm totally indifferent about Russia.

00:05:24.760 If anything, I feel kind of sorry for it.

00:05:26.720 Russian history is awful.

00:05:27.960 It's just a cavalcade of terrible things.

00:05:32.160 I mean, like, World War II for Russia was really bad.

00:05:35.560 26 million dead.

00:05:37.460 That is shocking.

00:05:39.160 You know, that was like an eighth of their entire population, a sixth of their entire population or something.

00:05:44.400 That was unbelievable.

00:05:45.720 And so it's just like, okay, it's just a land of suffering, and it has been for a thousand years.

00:05:50.120 And the main issue that we seem to have is, and all the charges against Russia are just basically, you're insufficiently liberal.

00:05:57.100 And it's like, well, duh.

00:05:59.000 Like, why would they be liberal?

00:06:01.460 Like, anyway, I've got no particular care about Russia.

00:06:05.920 It just doesn't come up in my thoughts until they're like, you love Putin.

00:06:09.260 It's like, no, I just hate what you're doing with my money.

00:06:13.020 One thing to say here that is independent of the discussion, Beau, you're raising is that one of the reasons why Russia has had such a past is because they were very autocratically led.

00:06:25.000 Sure.

00:06:25.480 But I mean, I think it's a lot more to do with, like, geography, really.

00:06:30.340 They're kind of trapped between two great worlds.

00:06:33.360 You know, can be invaded from both sides.

00:06:35.880 So you end up with that kind of culture.

00:06:37.200 Certainly, it's a history of suffering, World War II alone.

00:06:41.100 Tens of thousands of villages wiped off the map, millions of casualties.

00:06:45.000 And, of course, the war in the East, in World War II at least, raged across what is modern Ukraine.

00:06:50.620 Yeah.

00:06:50.840 There were two or even three big battles of Kiev, giant pockets where they encircled each other, and hundreds of thousands of guys aside were killed.

00:06:57.700 So, yeah, the history of Ukraine, not even touching on the holiday more, the history of Ukraine is one of terrible, terrible misery.

00:07:06.580 There's no particular distinction between the types of history Ukraine and Russia have had.

00:07:10.940 Yeah.

00:07:11.240 That's the thing.

00:07:12.520 It's like when Tucker, again, had the temerity to actually speak to Putin.

00:07:18.120 Putin took the narrative back to the ninth century.

00:07:21.400 Yeah.

00:07:21.840 And I actually did a video with Apostolic Majesty.

00:07:24.500 I don't know if we can just click on the, just to show that.

00:07:27.100 Yeah, I did over two hours, two hours, 20-odd, talking to Apostolic Majesty, who is a fantastic mind, one of the best read people I've ever come across.

00:07:35.820 And we talked for well over two hours just about taking the narrative back, because this is what the Uni Party want you to think, is that history started in 2014 when there was that coup in Kiev.

00:07:49.000 And good things happened at that point.

00:07:50.480 And it's all been good until right now, or until 2022, I think it was.

00:07:54.240 It's just mindless aggression from the Kremlin against poor little old Ukraine who didn't do nothing wrong, and Putin is a new Hitler type thing.

00:08:05.120 Yeah.

00:08:05.220 So if, well, let's see what Nigel actually said, if we can click on that Channel 4 News, quote, disgraceful comments link.

00:08:15.620 That's one of the first ones, second one there.

00:08:18.060 There you go.

00:08:18.780 And just, or was that the one?

00:08:23.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:24.700 If we could just play this.

00:08:25.540 A stoic Vladimir Putin lays a wreath this morning in a ceremony to commemorate the Nazis' invasion of the Soviet Union.

00:08:37.620 Channel 4 News, globalist tunes.

00:08:39.080 It came just hours after Nigel Farage claimed it was the West who provoked Russia's invasion of Ukraine, a consequence, he said, of the EU and NATO expanding eastwards.

00:08:53.040 I stood up in the European Parliament in 2014, and I said, and I quote, there will be a war in Ukraine.

00:09:01.300 We've provoked this war.

00:09:02.560 It's, you know, of course it's his fault.

00:09:05.280 He's used what we've done as an excuse.

00:09:06.020 But we've provoked the invasion of Ukraine.

00:09:07.420 Yes, and very interestingly, once again, ten years ago when I predicted this, by the way, I'm the only person in British politics that predicted what would happen.

00:09:15.320 This isn't a new argument from Nigel Farage.

00:09:18.760 Here he is in the European Parliament in 2014.

00:09:22.060 And the moral of the story is if you poke the Russian bear with a stick, don't be surprised when he reacts.

00:09:29.480 I talked about it actually as a matter of social justice.

00:09:31.840 But by breakfast time today, it was Rishi Sunak being forced to react once again to headlines created by reform.

00:09:40.540 After meeting with members of London's nighttime economy, he wasn't holding back.

00:09:45.600 What he said was completely wrong and only played...

00:09:49.080 Sorry, meeting with members of London's nighttime economy during the day.

00:09:54.420 No idea what that means.

00:09:55.840 Yeah, probably not the most respectful of people.

00:09:58.660 And you made up...

00:09:59.560 This is a man who deployed nerve agents on the streets of Britain, who's doing deals with countries like North Korea.

00:10:07.280 And this kind of appeasement is dangerous for Britain's security.

00:10:10.780 The security of our allies that rely on us and only emboldens Putin further.

00:10:15.320 Hello.

00:10:17.500 Keir Starmer wanted to talk about justice for the Windrush generation today, but also found himself wading into this row.

00:10:26.040 Farage's comments about Russia and Ukraine are disgraceful.

00:10:30.980 Are they?

00:10:31.400 I've always been clear that Putin bears responsibility, sole responsibility, for the Russian aggression in Ukraine.

00:10:38.680 And I think...

00:10:39.400 Okay, hand, sorry.

00:10:40.280 So...

00:10:40.680 Well, I was going to...

00:10:42.320 I was going to go through each one of these response after if we just...

00:10:45.820 Oh, sorry, okay.

00:10:46.460 Just...

00:10:46.820 Yeah, if you...

00:10:47.560 You want us to stand to be a representative in our parliament.

00:10:51.100 It should be really clear that whether it's Russian aggression on the battlefield or online,

00:10:55.840 that we stand against that aggression.

00:10:58.320 That's, you know, standing behind Ukraine, but also standing up for our freedom.

00:11:04.040 Another eye-catching photocall for Ed Davy.

00:11:08.280 He wanted to focus on environmental issues today, but joined in the chorus of condemnation.

00:11:15.040 Vladimir Putin and Russia embarked on an illegal invasion of Ukraine.

00:11:21.080 They are killing hundreds of thousands of people, some innocent civilians, and it is absolutely appalling.

00:11:28.320 And it's Putin and Russia who are to blame for this.

00:11:30.940 No one else.

00:11:31.680 No one else.

00:11:32.200 And I strongly support the efforts that Britain has made to support the Ukrainians.

00:11:38.220 I wish we'd had known more, actually.

00:11:40.440 Okay, Andy, you can finish that there.

00:11:42.280 So I thought we'd go through...

00:11:43.320 So that's what's been in the news cycle for a bit.

00:11:45.100 Just to be clear, that really does display the uni-party, the liberal consensus on the entire subject.

00:11:50.780 A chorus of condemnation.

00:11:52.640 No, no, we all completely agree that we've never done anything wrong and Russia is entirely evil.

00:11:57.160 It's like, oh, well, if it's that simple then, thank God.

00:12:00.120 Funnel more men and materiel to Ukraine so more people can just die in this war.

00:12:04.080 And we don't need to think any further on the issue.

00:12:06.220 Yeah, endless.

00:12:07.200 The decisions they made for you at the State Department and the Pentagon, just endless men and materiel.

00:12:12.720 Yeah, it's pathetic.

00:12:14.600 So I thought we'd go through what Sunak Starmer and Ed Davy said there, at least briefly.

00:12:18.340 So Sunak actually made probably the most salient points.

00:12:20.640 I'd like to reiterate here, I'm not pro-Putin or pro-Cremlin.

00:12:24.020 We don't need to give that any, we don't need to dignify that.

00:12:27.200 Putin is an ex-FSB killer.

00:12:30.440 Yeah.

00:12:30.760 Right?

00:12:31.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:31.700 He does assassinate people, including like journalists and stuff.

00:12:34.340 Yeah.

00:12:34.740 Okay, so Sunak mentioned the Scripple affair or the nerve agent thing.

00:12:39.700 Yeah.

00:12:40.480 Okay, that is really bad.

00:12:41.880 That's absolutely terrible.

00:12:42.580 Yeah, I mean, Scripple was a sort of a complete traitor and double agent.

00:12:48.320 And so in the Kremlin's mind, he needs to die.

00:12:51.560 Obama drone-stripped an American citizen without any congressional oversight.

00:12:55.720 Right, yeah.

00:12:56.400 Or legal comeuppance.

00:12:58.040 We'll send the SAS to Gibraltar to kill people if we need to.

00:13:00.540 Like, this is what states do.

00:13:03.320 Yeah.

00:13:03.980 Israel will send someone to Norway or whatever to kill someone on the street if they need to.

00:13:07.700 So they'll do it.

00:13:08.840 Okay.

00:13:09.200 They'll do it.

00:13:09.680 Also, let's not forget Litvinenko.

00:13:12.760 That wasn't nerve agent.

00:13:13.640 That was actually polonium.

00:13:15.440 So Putin's not a good guy.

00:13:18.700 Okay, we don't need to.

00:13:19.540 But anyway, the idea of appeasement, it's like what's happening in eastern Ukraine isn't the same as like the Sudetenland or the Rhineland.

00:13:29.960 Yeah.

00:13:30.600 Or annexing Austria that Hitler did and things like that.

00:13:34.060 It's just not the same thing.

00:13:35.460 Starmer said that Putin bears sole responsibility.

00:13:39.740 That's just simply wrong.

00:13:41.500 It takes two to tango.

00:13:42.960 Yeah.

00:13:43.280 It's not like one morning he decided there's complete peace and harmony in Ukraine, eastern Ukraine.

00:13:48.960 I know.

00:13:49.980 I think just because I'm a psycho, I'm going to invade it.

00:13:52.520 That's just not what happened.

00:13:53.920 But also they weren't addressing the point because Farage said that it was Putin's fault, although he was provoked.

00:14:03.240 No one addressed this.

00:14:05.360 They all reacted as if he said something quite different.

00:14:09.140 As if he said it's not his fault.

00:14:11.880 Deliberately misunderstanding what he said.

00:14:13.840 Or as if he was justified in doing it, as if it's a good thing that he's done it.

00:14:17.320 And in a way, I mean, of course it would be the West that would provoke Russia in such a case because the EU and NATO and the US are trying to exert influence upon that part of the world.

00:14:32.620 So what Farage said there about poking the Russian bear, don't expect it not to react.

00:14:36.500 Of course that's true.

00:14:37.420 Of course that's just like in the playground.

00:14:39.160 If you keep poking someone, then they throw a punch at you.

00:14:42.360 I mean, it is.

00:14:43.420 What a disgraceful thing to say.

00:14:46.440 Right.

00:14:47.140 I remember seeing a clip of Putin a long time ago talking about NATO.

00:14:50.640 He said, look, if you treat me reasonably, if you stop trying to take the mickey out of us, we'll treat you reasonably.

00:14:56.220 But you don't seem to be doing that.

00:14:57.620 You're painting me into a corner here.

00:14:59.280 Well, the whole issue is that the Western, and I really mean that this is the liberal philosophy on the way that history works,

00:15:07.680 doesn't recognize the legitimacy of non-liberal states.

00:15:11.740 And so we are turning ourselves conveniently blind to the idea of spheres of influence.

00:15:17.440 And this was well understood during, say, the Cold War with the Cuban Missile Crisis and things like that.

00:15:23.360 No, you can't just have Soviet missiles on America's doorstep because that is a security threat to the United States.

00:15:30.240 And it was well recognized.

00:15:31.240 For example, if Mexico is like, you know, we think about, we want to join the Russian Federation.

00:15:35.560 You think America would be like, oh, well, I mean, you know, they voted for it.

00:15:38.640 Well, they just voted for it, guys.

00:15:40.340 They all decided, no, bollocks, right?

00:15:43.600 Russia has a sphere of influence and Ukraine is directly in it.

00:15:46.920 And it's a prisoner of geography in this regard.

00:15:49.280 It's never going to not be in Russia's influence.

00:15:51.360 And so the fact that we go, well, they just joined the EU.

00:15:54.660 It's like, look, you can't pretend that there aren't competing polls here, like axes around which power revolves.

00:16:01.960 That is the case.

00:16:03.060 And it is the case that the Russians are going to look at this and go, well, this is encroaching literally into up to our border.

00:16:10.020 We have to respond in some way.

00:16:12.160 That's what Farage is saying.

00:16:13.760 It's going to look provocative to the Russians.

00:16:16.520 Now, I'm not Russian.

00:16:17.520 I don't care about Russia.

00:16:18.440 I have no sympathies for Russia.

00:16:19.580 It's just anyone with any kind of understanding of how states react to these things will know.

00:16:25.440 I've actually, I'm about two-thirds of the way through rereading the history of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides.

00:16:31.180 For no particular reason.

00:16:32.480 I just love reading it.

00:16:34.120 And it's becoming very, very stark that this is what is the case.

00:16:40.420 I mean, this is why the Spartans declared war on the Athenians.

00:16:44.260 The Athenians were amassing a great empire in Greece.

00:16:47.060 And they were like, well, hang on a second.

00:16:48.480 And they're taking our allies.

00:16:50.180 Our allies are feeling threatened by the expansion of the Athenians.

00:16:54.420 And so it was the growth of Athenian power that led the Spartans to declare the war, as Thucydides puts it.

00:16:59.680 And it's very much the same sort of thing here.

00:17:01.520 It's the growth of NATO power and reach and influence that has caused Putin to think, right, we have to do something now.

00:17:08.660 A red line has been crossed.

00:17:10.100 I have to also introduce something else in the equation here, because many times we hear about, you know, how the West is very short-sighted and non-Western countries have a long-term planning on the level of their leadership.

00:17:23.720 But you could say that in some cases, this is not necessarily always an argument against Western countries, because there's another argument that I've heard.

00:17:33.400 I mean, I'm no geopolitical expert, but it says that, well, Putin had more than 20 years in power.

00:17:39.160 And he had two decades to exercise good influence into the countries that are under the sphere of influence of Russia.

00:17:47.880 And he didn't.

00:17:49.800 And a lot of them want to join the EU.

00:17:52.180 Now, obviously, some are going to say, no, they are planned.

00:17:55.340 It's just the planned leadership and stuff.

00:17:58.340 But at least when it comes to Ukraine, the Ukrainians, I know they hear Russia and they just go mad instantly like bulls.

00:18:06.100 But, you know, yeah.

00:18:07.720 So there is that idea of spheres of influence.

00:18:09.540 It's a very sort of Cold War thing.

00:18:10.480 That's what I think the State Department and the Pentagon are sort of still wrapped up in this idea that the whole world should fall into spheres of influence and things.

00:18:19.340 Well, it does, whether you like it or not.

00:18:20.660 Right, yeah.

00:18:21.160 And so if you listen to the Tucker Putin interview or the Bodade Apostolic Majesty interview, you'll see that what we call Ukraine or the area around Kiev does go back centuries and centuries and centuries.

00:18:34.340 They're sort of almost more Russian than Russian in a way.

00:18:37.660 Sort of the Kievan Rus and Cossacks as well.

00:18:40.760 And well, it's extremely complicated.

00:18:42.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:42.920 We talked about it for over two hours and still it's sort of reasonably opaque.

00:18:46.120 But the point is, is that of course Kiev comes under the influence of Moscow.

00:18:53.020 Yeah.

00:18:53.460 Sort of there's no way around that.

00:18:55.440 But Russia have been our sort of strategic enemies firmly since like the 18th century.

00:19:01.400 There's the great game and all that sort of thing.

00:19:03.600 And of course, the Cold War.

00:19:06.380 Another way of looking at this is just reversing.

00:19:09.680 So what interest and claim does America have to Ukraine?

00:19:12.760 Yeah.

00:19:13.260 Why does NATO have any interest in Ukraine at all?

00:19:16.020 Well, no.

00:19:16.300 So this is another part of my take is that Ukraine is being used as just a playground for the bigger powers.

00:19:22.360 Sure.

00:19:22.540 Just a play thing where all sorts of espionage and shenanigans and skullduggery go down both sides, using it as just a way to try and attack each other, of course.

00:19:34.740 Yeah.

00:19:34.840 And the last thing that either of them seem to care about, the lives of Ukrainian people.

00:19:40.200 Absolutely.

00:19:41.040 We're more than willing to give them as much money and material as it requires.

00:19:45.380 And scupper peace deals.

00:19:46.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:47.060 And literally, Boris Johnson just dove in front of the peace deal and prevented that from happening.

00:19:51.380 But the thing that drives me crazy about this is what is the purpose of getting Ukraine in NATO?

00:19:58.800 What is the purpose of it?

00:20:00.160 Why do we want that?

00:20:01.700 And the only answer seems to be extending the liberal hegemony.

00:20:05.840 That seems to be the only answer.

00:20:07.680 To put pressure on the Kremlin.

00:20:09.400 Yeah.

00:20:09.860 To continue the sort of manifest destiny of liberalism to conquer the entire world.

00:20:13.880 Because NATO is such a Cold War thing, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, as a riposte

00:20:18.980 to the Warsaw Pact.

00:20:20.280 Yeah.

00:20:21.240 That everyone will, if Stalin, in the first instance, was going to try and take over all

00:20:26.140 of sort of West Germany and the rest of Western Europe, there needs to be some sort of grand

00:20:31.380 coalition in place to push back against that immediately.

00:20:35.420 NATO.

00:20:36.220 So it's sort of left over.

00:20:37.620 It's a Cold War remnant.

00:20:38.580 That's how I see NATO.

00:20:39.760 Well, no, that's exactly right.

00:20:41.380 And that explains why it's such an ideologically driven bloc, right?

00:20:45.100 So we are the Western liberal powers and we have rendered the opponents to be illegitimate.

00:20:52.200 We, of course, do this on a selective basis.

00:20:54.160 We don't do it for Saudi Arabia or something like that.

00:20:56.640 You know, when it's convenient, we just render you totally illegitimate and then we're

00:21:00.480 completely justified in doing whatever we can against you.

00:21:03.480 Whereas this is not like the old world view, which has been presented by Nigel Farage.

00:21:07.800 Nigel Farage looks in terms of peoples, national managements, governments, empires, states operating.

00:21:16.100 And so you don't really, it's not really about passing judgment on a rival state, right?

00:21:20.980 It's a lot more of a value neutral assessment.

00:21:23.520 Say, well, if you take these actions and that state will undoubtedly take this action because

00:21:27.740 it will be in their interest to do so.

00:21:29.100 Whereas the liberal says, well, but what about, what about gay rights in Ukraine?

00:21:32.260 It's like, sorry, that's not the issue.

00:21:34.300 That's not what we're talking about.

00:21:35.360 That's an inappropriate moral judgment at this point.

00:21:38.240 The question is the management of power between great nations.

00:21:41.500 And that's the frame in which Nigel Farage is speaking, not the moral opprobrium of liberalism.

00:21:47.540 I really don't think, though, that the U.S. state wanted to exercise influence on Ukraine for gay rights.

00:21:54.580 No, well.

00:21:55.100 I think it's what you said before about if we are going to apply.

00:21:58.100 I don't know.

00:21:58.660 The CDD's on the issue.

00:22:00.720 It's not about gay rights.

00:22:01.900 It's about increasing power.

00:22:03.400 Yeah, but that's a part of their power.

00:22:05.860 That's how they express their power.

00:22:07.820 They absolutely are concerned about gay rights in Ukraine.

00:22:10.820 There are going to be people in the U.S. State Department who will literally bring this

00:22:14.820 up in meetings.

00:22:16.200 It's about moral legitimacy for action.

00:22:20.760 But you are also right that there's going to be a huge amount of corruption.

00:22:24.160 I mean, we know that the Americans are going to be deeply involved in various corrupt enterprises

00:22:28.140 in Ukraine.

00:22:28.740 If I could just draw it back to Nigel and the news cycle in Britain.

00:22:32.700 You called it a sort of a value neutral thing from Nigel Farage.

00:22:36.140 Absolutely.

00:22:36.540 I'd characterize it more as just being honest about reality.

00:22:40.600 That seems to me what Nigel is doing.

00:22:43.140 And that's exactly what they don't like.

00:22:44.260 Because if you remember, Starmer said, basically said, anyone who stands in Parliament sort of

00:22:50.040 must stand against this aggression.

00:22:52.060 Must we?

00:22:53.020 Yeah.

00:22:53.340 Must we?

00:22:53.880 Anyone who stands in Parliament must be in favour of World War III for gay rights in Ukraine.

00:22:59.060 To make sure that there's no investigation into Biden's dealings in Ukraine.

00:23:02.860 You shouldn't be allowed in Parliament unless you tow the State Department's line.

00:23:07.140 And the State Department is the American version of the Foreign Office, basically.

00:23:10.680 So that's sort of scary.

00:23:13.140 Absolutely scary.

00:23:14.060 Ed Davey called it an illegal invasion.

00:23:16.600 Well, I mean, it's just crazy now.

00:23:21.320 Unlike the legal invasion of Iraq that we undertook, you know.

00:23:25.080 Exactly.

00:23:25.940 Invasions are generally illegal.

00:23:27.560 He seemed terribly upset that lots of people were getting killed.

00:23:32.340 Didn't seem to care about Russian people getting killed.

00:23:34.440 But this...

00:23:35.260 Russian soldiers' lives don't count anything.

00:23:37.240 Look at the framing.

00:23:38.380 It's an illegal invasion.

00:23:39.980 As if there is some rule of law adjudicated by a neutral arbiter of the nations of the world

00:23:45.280 that declares good invasions and bad invasions.

00:23:48.320 And this is the problem that I have with just the Western liberal consensus on everything.

00:23:53.760 It's...

00:23:54.360 Everything is presupposed.

00:23:55.440 No, we didn't...

00:23:56.260 We never did anything wrong.

00:23:57.340 We're always in the right.

00:23:58.340 And our opponents are just insane, barbarous murderers.

00:24:01.880 And therefore, we can just demonize them to our heart's content.

00:24:05.060 And any amount of trying to have a rational look, a fair, value-neutral look at the situation,

00:24:10.360 renders you to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

00:24:13.220 It's like, no, that's ridiculous.

00:24:15.040 It's childish, isn't it?

00:24:16.080 It's childish.

00:24:17.000 It's very deliberately low resolution.

00:24:19.080 Yeah.

00:24:19.320 But it's childish and wildly ideological.

00:24:22.800 But isn't there a question whether there are just wars and unjust wars?

00:24:26.260 I'm not saying there are not just wars and unjust wars.

00:24:28.560 The problem is, that's a valued question.

00:24:32.260 And so you have to say, well, who holds the value?

00:24:34.560 Because, I mean, Putin will definitely find that what he's doing to be a just war, even

00:24:38.760 if I don't, you know, it's, it's, so Ed Davies has to apply to some sort of neutral, transcendent,

00:24:46.240 liberal rule of law that just doesn't exist and pretend that, well, we're completely on

00:24:50.540 the side of good, even though we've done things that Putin could rightly say, well, was it a

00:24:55.160 legal invasion of Iraq, was it?

00:24:57.100 And we'll be like, well, I mean, by our laws, you know, but he might not agree.

00:25:01.160 I'm sure Saddam Hussein didn't agree, you know, like, it's a fiction that we're trying

00:25:05.920 to live within, that we assume everyone is somehow morally forced to agree with, which

00:25:10.500 they're not.

00:25:11.360 Jack Straw did get a very ambiguously worded UN resolution to allow us to agree.

00:25:14.920 Oh, well, he cares about UN resolutions.

00:25:18.420 The last thing Ed Davies said, which I wanted to pick up on, was he said, it was a direct

00:25:22.060 quote, no one else is to blame.

00:25:23.940 Like, wrong, Ed, wrong.

00:25:26.120 That's just wrong.

00:25:27.240 History didn't start in 2014.

00:25:29.020 So I thought, well, very quickly, I was going to dunk on Nick Robinson at the BBC there,

00:25:33.580 but I won't bother.

00:25:34.640 Everyone knows sort of what he is.

00:25:36.740 It was interesting to note that actually Richard Tyce, a side note, Richard Tyce and Nigel Farge

00:25:41.360 seem to have very different views on it because Tyce a few months ago was just sort of seemingly

00:25:46.680 absolutely just unequivocally pro-Ukraine, sort of no nuance there whatsoever.

00:25:51.560 And now Nigel is saying something very different.

00:25:54.120 Anyway, that's interesting to note.

00:25:55.100 Just a quick thing here, you can be pro-Ukraine and still a realist about how things have

00:26:00.920 come about.

00:26:01.800 As in, you know, I mean, I'm an Englishman, so I always root for the underdog.

00:26:04.940 You know, I don't have any particular sympathies for Russia.

00:26:08.660 I imagine what the Ukrainians themselves are actually physically going through is hell on

00:26:13.640 earth.

00:26:14.520 You know, I mean, like I've seen the footage of drones killing Ukrainians and Russians and

00:26:19.540 I'm like, that is just the worst.

00:26:21.320 I'm not anti-Ukraine.

00:26:23.100 I'm anti-Zelensky and anti-the Ukrainian government.

00:26:25.420 I'm not anti-Ukrainian people or your average Ukrainian conscript.

00:26:29.860 Absolutely not.

00:26:30.920 Not in a million years.

00:26:31.920 That would be mad.

00:26:32.500 That would be weird and mad.

00:26:33.940 And so, as you can see, he's bringing medical supplies from the UK.

00:26:37.480 That's actually a very, you know, that's actually a good and noble thing to do.

00:26:40.480 So there's, you know, in that way you can be pro-Ukraine, but the Ukrainian state, which

00:26:45.700 is deliberately refusing to negotiate with Russia because of the backing of the United

00:26:49.060 States, that's the problem.

00:26:51.380 So I thought we could quickly, for anyone who's forgotten or is quite a few years ago

00:26:55.500 now who isn't old enough to remember, sort of the run-up to it, how it happened, that

00:26:59.020 it wasn't just pure mindless aggression from the Russians and that no one else is to blame

00:27:03.620 other than it's come out of, literally just come out of the mind of Putin.

00:27:07.760 I mean, how far do you go back?

00:27:09.300 So if we talk about maybe 1991 when the Soviet Union fell apart.

00:27:12.860 1927, that's too short-sighted.

00:27:16.300 We need to go centuries back.

00:27:17.880 We should go back to the 9th century.

00:27:19.560 Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:20.400 But if you say when the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991 and Ukraine sort of becomes its own

00:27:25.840 thing again.

00:27:26.720 But by sort of 2004, 2005, sort of the politics of Ukraine, the Orange Revolution there, and

00:27:34.120 there's the two victors, aren't there?

00:27:35.300 There's Viktor Yushchenko, who's sort of the pro-European one who got poisoned.

00:27:42.540 They did try and, Putin tried to poison him to death and it failed.

00:27:47.040 And then there's the other Viktor.

00:27:47.760 I was like the guy with a rough face because of the poisoning.

00:27:49.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:49.500 Yeah, I know the guy with a rough face.

00:27:50.280 They tried to poison him and he just about survived.

00:27:54.340 And there's the Viktor Yanukovych.

00:27:57.980 So anyway, there was a back and forth there, a real...

00:28:00.100 It's like the two Spider-Mans pointing at each other, isn't it?

00:28:02.220 Yeah.

00:28:02.380 It's like, good God.

00:28:03.080 There was an actual sort of legit battle for the hearts and minds of Ukraine.

00:28:09.360 And both sides, let's be perfectly honest, both sides, both the Kremlin and D.C., had

00:28:15.980 their fingers all over, their intelligence and their special services and all sorts of

00:28:20.220 things all over it.

00:28:22.740 And there was a back and forth for years, well, between 2004, 2005 up to November 2013 into

00:28:30.260 sort of January, February 2014 when things really kicked off, that whole period is a

00:28:35.620 back and forth where it seems legitimately millions of people in Ukraine wanted to join

00:28:40.180 Europe, be closer to Europe and cut ties with Russia, but also a big chunk of people, especially

00:28:46.600 in the east of Ukraine, consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian.

00:28:51.980 Yeah.

00:28:52.060 So a real, a genuine battle for the hearts and minds of people.

00:28:56.300 And just to be clear, wasn't it Vladimir Lenin who created Ukraine as a political entity that

00:29:00.540 we understand it now?

00:29:02.020 Right, yeah.

00:29:02.580 So if you want to go back that far, yeah.

00:29:04.460 Well, it's not that much.

00:29:04.960 Well, Lenin made the political calculation that they should be given some autonomy, yeah.

00:29:10.860 Sure.

00:29:11.420 But the fact that this was a conglomeration of ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians and

00:29:17.480 not like clearly drawn borders means that perhaps a revisitation of that settlement might

00:29:22.920 be worth looking at, considering that seems to be the core of Putin's support in Ukraine

00:29:28.220 are ethnic Russians.

00:29:30.140 So just to say, because time's ticking on, just very, very quickly to say between about

00:29:33.820 2010 and 2014-15, there was a real back and forth between the two victors over who's going

00:29:40.140 to be president, and some of them won legit elections, or some of the elections were considered

00:29:44.140 to be fortified one way or the other.

00:29:46.780 Yeah, I'm sure they were free and fair.

00:29:48.680 And in the end, the pro-Russian victor won, but then the people sort of basically sort of

00:29:59.420 ousted him, whether with the connivance of the Americans.

00:30:03.280 Sure, they had nothing to do.

00:30:06.140 Let's call up some of the left-wing journalists.

00:30:07.900 Hello, do you think America would ever do something funny in Ukraine?

00:30:10.400 No, I didn't think so.

00:30:11.500 There is a clip of John McCain in Kiev.

00:30:14.380 Can we play that clip real quick?

00:30:15.900 So the idea that history started when Putin invaded is obviously wrong, if you play this.

00:30:20.260 Oh, good.

00:30:21.020 That's famous.

00:30:21.900 Duh.

00:30:23.060 One of the biggest global issues of all time, John McCain.

00:30:26.020 The late Ukraine.

00:30:29.120 People of Ukraine, this is your moment.

00:30:33.280 This is about you.

00:30:39.620 No one else.

00:30:40.660 Is it?

00:30:41.420 This is an American politician.

00:30:43.900 This is about the future you want for your country.

00:30:47.380 This is about the future you deserve.

00:30:50.500 Anyway, don't just play anymore.

00:30:51.520 You get the idea.

00:30:52.320 Sorry, I know I keep butting in to extend the length of this, but they gave exactly the same sort of speeches in Afghanistan.

00:31:02.380 And one thing that I guess Ukrainians should really think about is, how long is America's attention really going to be on us?

00:31:08.820 You know, like, again, apparently if Afghanistan is anything to go by, about 20 years.

00:31:14.160 And then you're trapped as a prisoner of geography next to the Russians forever.

00:31:18.920 Having a fair settlement would be better, I think.

00:31:22.560 Well, the State Department, the Pentagon and the White House have all said it will be there as long as it takes.

00:31:27.360 Yeah, they said that in Afghanistan.

00:31:28.580 And then after 20 years, that collapsed, they fled.

00:31:31.080 And they left the Taliban with billions of dollars in weaponry.

00:31:33.480 You can see how Putin, if you are going to have a value-neutral judgment, you can see how Putin sees that there's maybe some sort of coup in Ukraine, a pro-American coup.

00:31:47.840 And they keep making noise about joining NATO.

00:31:50.800 You can see how it's just a provocation.

00:31:53.520 Well, it looks like American imperialism to the Russian mind.

00:31:56.200 Right.

00:31:56.800 Because they don't think of terms of rule of law and stuff like that.

00:32:00.760 They think of terms in power politics.

00:32:03.080 And if Americans seem to be pulling the strings in Ukraine, then they'll view that as just another part, another maneuver in the great game.

00:32:10.600 So this is what Nigel's talking about, is that we provoked it.

00:32:13.560 We, the West.

00:32:14.380 Yeah.

00:32:16.200 There you go.

00:32:17.260 Yeah.

00:32:18.180 And, of course, history didn't start with this.

00:32:20.660 Oh, yeah.

00:32:21.180 It goes back and back and back and back.

00:32:22.580 I mean, like, you just, it's literally like anything, anything like this.

00:32:27.860 If you have a powerful nation who is interfering in what are the sort of satellites of another powerful nation, and their politicians were to go and speak there.

00:32:39.040 I mean, like, you know, this is like Alcibiades being Argos.

00:32:41.860 You know, the Spartans are going to be like, what are you doing in Argos, Alcibiades?

00:32:45.560 That's right on our doorstep.

00:32:46.600 There's nowhere near Athens.

00:32:47.580 What are you doing here?

00:32:48.940 You know, and this provokes the second half of the, sorry, I'm not going to go on Lucidides rant.

00:32:53.640 I don't mind, but I'm sure in the audience, but like, but this is the point is people are representatives of the place they've come from, whether you like it or not.

00:33:02.920 And that's what's being perceived in the old world view of international relations.

00:33:07.340 So just the idea that Putin is the sole aggressor, any dissent from that view is disgraceful.

00:33:15.280 Yeah.

00:33:15.560 It's just nonsense.

00:33:16.540 That was a cult mentality.

00:33:17.640 And it doesn't make you a Putin apologist.

00:33:20.720 It doesn't make you a pro-Kremlin partisan to say or think that.

00:33:24.440 No, it's childish.

00:33:25.080 It's just being reasonable.

00:33:26.420 It's just looking at reality.

00:33:27.560 And so the very last thing I'll say is that I did write an article about this pretty much bang on two years ago, where I said, where I said, basically said that, you know, in any, I explicitly say, once again, Putin is not a good person.

00:33:43.080 He's an FSB sort of cynical killer type.

00:33:46.260 But yeah, but yeah, I don't support Zelensky.

00:33:48.760 He's a czar by any other name.

00:33:50.320 Right.

00:33:50.620 Yeah.

00:33:50.800 What do you expect out of Russia?

00:33:52.120 Yeah.

00:33:52.740 Okay.

00:33:53.000 So Nigel did nothing wrong.

00:33:54.480 He's actually just having, expressing a reasonable view.

00:33:59.840 A salient old world political analysis that is accurate.

00:34:03.080 And if we were sensible and not liberal ideologues, we'd try and come to a fair settlement and arrangement with Russia on Ukraine.

00:34:11.480 Nigel is not in hock to the State Department and the Pentagon.

00:34:15.020 No.

00:34:15.380 Great.

00:34:16.040 Yeah.

00:34:16.780 Yeah.

00:34:17.080 Oh, he must be in hock to Putin.

00:34:18.520 No, I really don't think he is.

00:34:20.280 I think he's just, yeah, I think he's a normal chap, you know.

00:34:23.140 It's not our war, just like the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

00:34:26.860 Britain has got no dog in the fight between Russia and Ukraine.

00:34:32.640 Yeah.

00:34:32.840 We should not be involved in it.

00:34:34.580 And I just want peace.

00:34:35.700 I don't want World War III.

00:34:36.880 We've seen them putting out the adverts that now feature white guys.

00:34:40.120 Oh, do they really?

00:34:41.360 Your military recruiting adverts have white guys that, no, I'm not going to war for Ukraine and American imperialism.

00:34:46.980 Like, it's really sad that loads of Ukrainian civilians and soldiers are being killed.

00:34:50.520 It's tragic.

00:34:51.000 But we don't care at all about how many Russians die.

00:34:54.380 No, I don't want either side to be throwing lives away.

00:34:58.020 Yeah, the drone striking of just individual Russian soldiers fleeing through a field is awful to watch as well.

00:35:03.040 But anyway.

00:35:03.520 Okay, we'll move on.

00:35:04.580 Yeah.

00:35:05.220 So let's move on to something a bit more jolly than the tragedy that is Ukraine.

00:35:11.340 Have the Conservative Party had a collective stroke?

00:35:15.160 Or just gone brain dead entirely?

00:35:16.900 No, no, no, no.

00:35:17.500 Because that would imply no action can be taken, right?

00:35:19.960 They're brain dead.

00:35:20.600 They can't take any action.

00:35:22.180 But I think the Conservative Party have genuinely lost their minds, sort of Fetterman style.

00:35:27.020 Lost their, you know.

00:35:27.800 I laugh.

00:35:29.000 But like, they've genuinely just gone.

00:35:32.720 I mean, I feel kind of bad for them.

00:35:34.340 Rishi Senna's called the election.

00:35:35.380 They're like, okay, what are we campaigning on exactly?

00:35:38.560 And so whoever runs their social media team is just like, well, I mean, we'll pull out all the old Conservative canards then, I guess.

00:35:45.620 We'll say that Labour will be bad at these things.

00:35:48.340 And yet every time it's like literally Sideshow Bob stepping on the race, smack them in the face.

00:35:52.780 So I thought we'd just go through it.

00:35:53.720 Just see how unbelievably bad the Conservatives' online social media campaign has been doing, right?

00:35:59.260 So as you can see here, you've got like, they've tweeted out this.

00:36:02.300 Have you got a problem with Britain's roads?

00:36:03.580 And they're like, yeah, we fixed it for you.

00:36:04.680 So let's watch this.

00:36:07.840 I think you'll agree with me.

00:36:09.620 There's a problem with Britain's roads.

00:36:11.500 And you know what it is?

00:36:16.520 Oh, it's somehow the Labour Party, is it?

00:36:19.120 The Labour Party.

00:36:19.920 Right, okay.

00:36:20.400 First things first.

00:36:21.580 You're the government.

00:36:22.340 You have been 14 years.

00:36:23.520 Could have overruled any of this stuff like you did with the gender nonsense in Scotland, right?

00:36:27.300 You could have overruled it.

00:36:28.540 All of this was done under a Conservative government, even if you've got devolved powers.

00:36:32.840 And three, the roads are atrocious anyway.

00:36:35.140 Like, notice the guys talking about, oh, the quality of the roads.

00:36:38.340 And they bring up, like, Labour 20 mile an hour limits and ULES.

00:36:43.020 It's like, hey, they're really not the major problem that I have.

00:36:45.580 I don't live in Wales.

00:36:46.280 I don't live in London.

00:36:47.220 So they're not my problem.

00:36:48.340 My problem, and my stream deck has stopped working now for some reason.

00:36:52.060 My problem is the fact that the UK's roads are terrible.

00:36:56.160 They're absolutely atrocious.

00:36:57.320 And they have been for years.

00:36:58.040 This is from 2018 on the BBC.

00:37:00.200 But they're like, thousands of miles of the UK roads are atrocious.

00:37:03.000 It's like, yes, yes, they are.

00:37:04.940 And where's the worst?

00:37:06.320 It's in Surrey.

00:37:08.120 The worst roads in the UK are in Surrey somehow, right?

00:37:12.640 Tory stronghold.

00:37:13.620 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:14.200 Not just Tory stronghold.

00:37:16.000 100% Tory.

00:37:17.700 Right, okay.

00:37:18.100 100% Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, Kwasi Kwarteng, right?

00:37:24.280 This is like the cabinet, Dominic Raab, Chris Grayling, cabinet stronghold of Surrey, worst

00:37:30.440 roads in the country.

00:37:31.800 It's like, why are you tweeting about roads if your record on this is so bad?

00:37:36.420 Like, why would you just, again, step on the rake, whack you in the face?

00:37:40.180 Why?

00:37:40.600 And Surrey's a lovely area.

00:37:41.820 Why would it, it's a rich area.

00:37:43.400 Why would it have such bad roads?

00:37:45.780 The councils and labour?

00:37:47.460 I don't know.

00:37:48.900 Even if they are, and I doubt that they are.

00:37:51.060 Yeah, I actually doubt that they are.

00:37:52.600 I didn't check the councils.

00:37:53.760 I doubt that they are.

00:37:54.860 Even if they were, that's no excuse.

00:37:57.240 You are not only the government, you are the MPs of those locations.

00:38:00.680 You can go and get those fixed, and you should, but you didn't.

00:38:03.340 It's pure gaslighting, isn't it?

00:38:04.740 That would imply a level of comprehension, right?

00:38:10.100 And a level of strategic thinking that I just don't think the Conservatives are capable

00:38:14.480 of at this point.

00:38:15.780 I really think they're just, they've had a collective stroke, right?

00:38:19.560 So the next thing, don't let Labour put our reduction of inflation at risk.

00:38:26.140 Who was in government?

00:38:27.660 It was you.

00:38:28.580 You caused the inflation.

00:38:29.740 It wasn't just anyone in the Conservative Party.

00:38:31.340 It wasn't like they can go, well, that was my predecessor, I'll blame someone else for

00:38:35.080 that.

00:38:35.220 No, it was Rishi Sunak who did this.

00:38:37.980 Rishi Sunak?

00:38:38.960 What?

00:38:39.340 Are you sure you don't see things from a short-term perspective?

00:38:42.920 We could go centuries ago and stuff.

00:38:45.240 Well, we can compare all of this to centuries ago.

00:38:48.260 So let's go back about three centuries, right?

00:38:50.620 In England in the 18th century, if you debased the coinage, if you messed with the money supply,

00:38:56.080 that was a death penalty, right?

00:38:57.960 You literally got hanged for that.

00:38:59.960 Now, people might be like, yeah, but the bloody code was too far.

00:39:02.780 Yeah, but maybe not on that issue, right?

00:39:04.520 Because interfering with the money supply was interfering with everyone's wealth.

00:39:07.760 As you can see here, look at what happened in 2020.

00:39:10.740 Oh, that's right.

00:39:11.420 Furlough.

00:39:12.780 Oh, that's crazy money supply edition.

00:39:16.360 That only goes up to 2021 as well.

00:39:18.100 So for people, for the Conservatives, like we're getting inflation under control.

00:39:21.420 That's like literally someone coming in, ruining your house and being like, okay, well,

00:39:24.900 I'll tidy it up for you.

00:39:25.820 Oh, great.

00:39:27.260 Great.

00:39:27.680 You're not going to get any props from me for doing the, for fixing the mess you created.

00:39:33.480 I thought biogenomics was a good thing.

00:39:35.440 It looks like that chart seems to suggest not so much.

00:39:38.240 Well, I mean, you know, it would suggest.

00:39:40.800 And even like the independent, like, well, you know, Sunak's not getting credit for the,

00:39:45.020 in the polls for the inflation drop.

00:39:47.120 And it's like, because you did this.

00:39:49.100 I'm giving you no credit for this.

00:39:50.600 You did this.

00:39:51.260 Again, another rake, smack, straight in the face.

00:39:53.740 Don't know why you would do it.

00:39:55.000 And so the next one, and this, this is one of my favorites.

00:39:58.060 I genuinely, as a small business owner, this particularly galls me, right?

00:40:04.140 Small business, big tax.

00:40:06.320 Be careful.

00:40:07.440 The Labour Party are going to really affect your small business.

00:40:10.620 Oh, shut your mouths.

00:40:12.500 Shut your mouths.

00:40:14.020 Near 400,000 small businesses closed under the Conservatives because of the lockdowns

00:40:19.400 that didn't have to happen.

00:40:20.720 You could have handled these things in any which way you wanted, but you chose lockdowns

00:40:24.700 and 400,000 people got their businesses closed.

00:40:27.740 You left open the big businesses, though.

00:40:29.780 You left open Sainsbury's and the supermarkets, the banks, all this sort of thing, all these

00:40:33.680 things all did fine.

00:40:35.360 But it was your regular high street small business that got whacked.

00:40:38.360 They weren't allowed to open, even though in retrospect, maybe about concentrating people

00:40:43.220 was bad for the spread of the virus, whatever.

00:40:45.160 Who knows?

00:40:46.400 Unbelievable.

00:40:47.060 Why would you, why would you try and stand on that record?

00:40:49.060 Yeah, small businesses need to keep closed for the sake of public health.

00:40:53.580 But the borders will remain open, absolutely wide open.

00:40:56.820 We'll get to the wide open borders in a minute.

00:40:59.100 Sorry.

00:40:59.760 This is just...

00:41:01.060 Right, so the next thing.

00:41:02.200 Oh, let's talk about food security.

00:41:04.660 Oh, you won't get eggs that were laid in the UK.

00:41:07.260 Oh, really?

00:41:07.660 And the farms will be in trouble.

00:41:10.500 We're protecting food security, say, the Conservative Party.

00:41:16.680 The Conservative Party is currently...

00:41:18.620 I mean, they stopped subsidizing the food production in the UK, right?

00:41:22.920 Because, of course, it used to be subsidized.

00:41:25.140 It was the Agriculture Act that was passed in 2020, again.

00:41:28.640 Like, not even in history.

00:41:32.340 You know, if it was like, well, it was done in 2011 or something.

00:41:34.440 I'd be like, well, okay, maybe it's not these guys' fault.

00:41:36.240 No, this was in 2020.

00:41:37.760 This was just a couple of years ago, right?

00:41:40.000 And so what this does is updates the way that agriculture is funded in the UK.

00:41:46.240 And they've got the Path to Sustainable Farming, an Agricultural Transition Plan from 2021 to 2024.

00:41:54.400 And so what this will be is the main tool for delivering improvements to water quality and biodiversity,

00:42:00.640 key elements of the government's 25-year environment plan.

00:42:03.720 And so what does that equate to?

00:42:05.100 What does that mean?

00:42:05.960 That means that the government will literally pay farmers not to farm, right?

00:42:10.820 So this, what all of this is, and you saw the Welsh government rolling out something very similar.

00:42:18.620 The Welsh government took it too far.

00:42:20.420 The Conservative government didn't take it as far.

00:42:22.540 But what that means is taking areas of farmland and making sure they are rewilded.

00:42:27.860 So they're creating biodiversity, which is, of course, reducing.

00:42:31.900 In Wales, I think they wanted like a fifth of farmland to be rewilded.

00:42:36.200 But in the UK one, we don't have a target.

00:42:41.080 But what they have is, well, if you leave areas of forest land for birds or you put like extra like double spaced rows so that can grow and stuff like this, whatever.

00:42:52.260 You know, I don't know how it works.

00:42:53.400 But the point is they're trying to reduce the amount of farmland that is actually farmed.

00:42:57.660 And it's like, OK.

00:42:58.580 And then that leads to that leads to food security, I guess.

00:43:03.100 Even though we don't even, we only produce half the food that we consume anyway.

00:43:07.040 So it's like, OK, so food security is a nonsense.

00:43:08.980 But then in 2022, they decided, you know what?

00:43:11.420 We're just going to pay you to leave farming.

00:43:14.400 We're going to give you a lump sum money, amount of money, if you leave the profession of farming.

00:43:20.380 And it's like, that is bonkers.

00:43:22.360 We're actually paying farmers to just give up farming.

00:43:24.680 Why would we do that?

00:43:25.280 Well, the answer is diversity, actually.

00:43:27.440 For some reason, they want to get peasants from across the world.

00:43:29.980 So instead, farm their own countries to come and farm our countries, even though we have farmers in this country.

00:43:34.400 I don't know why.

00:43:35.340 So again, it's all part of the plan to replace us demographically in our own ancestral homeland.

00:43:40.420 Well, that's not what they would say.

00:43:42.560 They would say, well, it's about representation in farming.

00:43:45.200 Because the Conservatives are a left-wing party.

00:43:47.880 They're totally on board with all of this left-wing nonsense.

00:43:50.820 Speaking of left-wing nonsense, let's go to net zero.

00:43:53.420 Oh, my God.

00:43:54.680 Labour will pursue net zero.

00:43:56.820 No matter the cost to families, they're going to hike up your bills.

00:43:59.980 It's in your manifesto.

00:44:01.820 This is your manifesto for 2024.

00:44:06.420 You're a net zero party.

00:44:08.520 Don't be like, Labour are net zero.

00:44:10.060 Be careful.

00:44:11.120 You're net zero.

00:44:12.000 Only the difference between Labour and the Conservatives, and this is one of those really stark going the speed limit examples.

00:44:18.300 Labour are like, we're going to be net zero by 2030.

00:44:22.180 And the Conservatives are like, that's atrocious.

00:44:23.920 It's 2050.

00:44:25.040 We're going to be net zero, actually.

00:44:26.900 Net zero is unironically Tory policy.

00:44:28.820 But by 2050, not 2030.

00:44:31.320 It's the same policies, just with slower steps.

00:44:34.740 Yeah, it's literally the same policy.

00:44:36.280 And they've got loads in here as well.

00:44:37.780 It goes on and on and on and on.

00:44:40.820 It's going like, net zero, net zero, net zero.

00:44:42.580 So that was a Labour policy.

00:44:43.560 What are you doing?

00:44:44.600 What are you doing?

00:44:45.260 The way the Tories are running their campaign is as though they assume you know nothing and are stupid.

00:44:52.860 And woke up yesterday out of a coma.

00:44:55.100 Yeah.

00:44:55.660 Yeah.

00:44:56.360 That's literally how they run.

00:44:58.580 It's like being punched in the face repeatedly and they're saying, if you vote for us, we'll punch you slightly softer in the face.

00:45:04.460 Careful, that guy's going to punch you in the face.

00:45:06.420 It's like, look at all these bruises, man.

00:45:08.560 You know, OK, so let's go to the next one.

00:45:11.660 The taxes.

00:45:12.980 Oh, are Labour really going to raise my taxes?

00:45:16.920 I'm really afraid of that.

00:45:18.380 I am actually afraid of that.

00:45:19.540 But, I mean, high taxes have just been a normal feature of life, haven't they?

00:45:22.860 Look at that.

00:45:23.540 Oh, Keir Starmer's going to get in your wallet.

00:45:25.620 It's like, Keir Starmer's going to get in my wallet.

00:45:28.160 You know, there's nothing left in my bloody wallet.

00:45:31.280 And, again, this keeps going on.

00:45:34.300 Highest taxes in history under Labour.

00:45:37.480 Highest taxes in history.

00:45:39.800 What, like we're paying now?

00:45:41.380 Like, we're paying now under the Conservative Party, right?

00:45:44.940 Currently, the tax burden is 37.7% of national income.

00:45:51.360 A third, more than a third of everything the entire country earns goes to the government.

00:45:57.700 And it's like, careful of that Keir Starmer.

00:45:59.200 He's going to tax you.

00:45:59.900 If I can introduce a swipe of libertarianism, I feel like taxes are a type of state-sponsored theft.

00:46:08.360 That's what that is.

00:46:09.500 I think this is a kind of a vague boundary, right?

00:46:13.520 So, obviously, there is a necessary amount of taxation to make sure the state can do things like protection and police and things like this, right?

00:46:20.720 Evil statist.

00:46:22.280 I think there is an argument for it.

00:46:24.420 But there's a sort of seritas paradox here.

00:46:27.300 At some point, the grain of sands becomes a pile.

00:46:31.100 And now, when we get to about, you know, nearly 40% taxation, yeah, I think that's probably theft.

00:46:35.960 You're just stealing from me at that point.

00:46:38.940 An overly powerful state, centralized state.

00:46:41.460 Yeah.

00:46:41.840 Clearly.

00:46:42.440 Yeah.

00:46:42.620 Obviously, it was only during World War II that the taxes were as high or higher than this, which isn't very surprising, because it was a world war that we're engaged in.

00:46:54.680 We're not engaged in a world war.

00:46:56.260 Why are our taxes at such ridiculous amounts?

00:46:59.040 You realize that's our money.

00:47:00.260 I mean, again, I don't want to get all libertarian about it, but it is my money you're stealing, you thieves.

00:47:04.520 Right?

00:47:04.680 So, oh, what about the NHS?

00:47:06.960 Under Labour, the NHS won't be safe.

00:47:09.180 The Labour Party is the only party who's ever had an NHS budget cut.

00:47:13.660 So, hello, base department, cutting the NHS budget?

00:47:17.100 What are you doing?

00:47:18.600 I want the NHS budget cut.

00:47:20.540 Under the Conservatives, the DEI managers ballooned.

00:47:26.160 Millions and millions of pounds are spent on DEI managers who get 140K a year, if not more.

00:47:31.800 One of them is 230K a year.

00:47:33.340 What are you talking about?

00:47:34.660 I mean, literally, we can just look at the budget over time, which is just here.

00:47:38.700 I mean, okay, no end in sight, just a continuous trend upwards.

00:47:44.240 Apart from the COVID, there's a sharp jump upwards for emergency funding, which is no end in sight.

00:47:49.360 There's never going to be a cut.

00:47:50.440 It's like, what are you talking about?

00:47:52.160 This is all done by the Conservatives, all done by the Conservatives.

00:47:55.080 And all you can do is make Labour sound like a good choice.

00:47:57.980 Would having, importing a net 700,000, 800,000 people, a million people plus year on year, that wouldn't affect that, would it?

00:48:06.900 It surely wouldn't have any effect.

00:48:08.120 We'll get to it, because obviously that's the reason.

00:48:11.140 But it's just, I just shut up.

00:48:14.660 You know, a budget cut for the NHS would be a good thing.

00:48:17.640 Next thing, right, what about crime?

00:48:19.980 God, if there's one party that's weak on crime, it's the Labour Party, isn't it?

00:48:23.920 Labour opposes stop and surge.

00:48:25.540 They're going to take tasers off the police.

00:48:27.400 They're going to basically allow criminals to run riot in the streets.

00:48:30.400 Not like the Conservative Party, who literally made it basically legal to shoplift under £200 worth of goods.

00:48:38.780 And have destroyed the police by having all the woke initiatives in it.

00:48:42.480 Yes, indeed.

00:48:43.500 But that's, again, happened all under the Conservative watch.

00:48:46.380 But they're like, well, that was devolved, you know, London, Labour police have done that, blah, blah, blah.

00:48:51.040 And cause criminal damage on Whitehall with no repercussions, as long as you're holding a Palestinian flag.

00:48:55.440 Yeah, but when they sign, literally do this, right?

00:48:58.300 So the £200 threshold was introduced in England and Wales in the Anti-Social Behaviour and Crime of Policing Act of 2014.

00:49:04.660 So they literally put it in themselves, right?

00:49:07.000 And so basically what this means is that they are telling the police not to bother investigating shoplifting under £200, right?

00:49:15.700 Obviously, this is bad.

00:49:17.400 Because it's going to cause more shoplifting.

00:49:19.720 I mean, this is what the BBC, a couple of years ago, were like, well, hang on a second.

00:49:22.860 The shoplifters are all like, pfft, we don't get punished.

00:49:25.880 Like, nine out of ten times you get away with it.

00:49:28.740 And you're not bothered about the consequences, because the worst, it seems, is four months in jail for this woman.

00:49:33.640 After doing it over and over and over, a couple of months in jail.

00:49:36.500 Well, it's a very direct assault on the very principle of the rule of law.

00:49:40.160 Yes.

00:49:41.880 100%, right?

00:49:42.560 The only people in favour of that would be agents of chaos.

00:49:45.460 Yeah.

00:49:46.120 Yeah.

00:49:46.680 The Conservative Party, right?

00:49:48.120 And so last year, you know, Chris Phillips is like, no, no, no, I'm going to tell the police they do have to investigate it, actually.

00:49:54.480 Right?

00:49:54.640 Because shoplifting offences, ignore the little COVID drop there, obviously, when all the shops are closed by the Conservatives.

00:50:01.000 Obviously, thieves can't do as much shoplifting.

00:50:03.640 There's still 50,000 incidents of shoplifting, even when everything was locked down.

00:50:08.160 But don't worry about that, right?

00:50:09.040 But for the first time ever, over 100,000 for the first quarter.

00:50:12.960 So, 400,000 instances that they know of that have happened in a year.

00:50:18.840 So, any sort of breakdown of the types of people that are doing these shops?

00:50:22.560 Well, yeah, well.

00:50:24.180 Are you allowed to notice any patterns there?

00:50:25.720 Who cares?

00:50:26.580 Right.

00:50:27.400 You know, we all know.

00:50:28.840 Only economic ones.

00:50:29.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:30.260 Purely economic factors.

00:50:31.820 You need to be taxed more, so more money is given to crime-bredden communities.

00:50:36.040 Yeah, and so you had the chairman of a bakery going on Times Radio and being like,

00:50:41.600 can we treat shoplifting as a proper crime, please, under this Conservative government?

00:50:47.060 If that's not too much hassle, I do actually think we're at the point where we need to treat shoplifting as theft.

00:50:52.160 And see it as a proper crime prosecutor.

00:50:54.120 It's like, again, people, Victorians used to send people to jail for months for the smallest of thefts.

00:51:02.060 They were really hard on theft.

00:51:03.720 I mean, the 18th or 19th century could be deported to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread.

00:51:07.560 Exactly.

00:51:07.900 But now, the Conservatives now are just like, well, I mean, less than 200 pounds.

00:51:12.480 Is it really a crime?

00:51:13.760 It's like, it kind of adds up when you've got 100,000 of them going on.

00:51:17.600 Just saying, I'm no mathematician, but that strikes me as millions lost by shops who have done nothing wrong.

00:51:23.540 And so they're like, oh, don't vote for Labour because you'll get Keir Starmer and he'll be soft on crime.

00:51:28.340 Keir Starmer's a maniac, right?

00:51:30.420 My problem with Keir Starmer isn't actually that he's going to be soft on crime, to be honest.

00:51:33.760 This is from a book that Max here has been reading, right?

00:51:38.160 Keir Starmer, I think it was during the 2011 riots, Keir Starmer found a guy who was a 22-year-old Portuguese man

00:51:45.780 who had not participated in the riots, but was walking past a ransacked ice shop, ice cream shop,

00:51:50.160 when he got himself a scoop of ice cream.

00:51:52.360 Starmer jailed him for 16 months and then deported him back to Portugal, which, don't get me wrong, great!

00:51:58.500 I'm totally in favour of!

00:52:00.740 But, like, night and day difference!

00:52:03.500 But also, don't investigate or prosecute...

00:52:07.260 Jimmy Savile, grooming gangs, or anything like this, right?

00:52:09.920 Yeah.

00:52:10.500 I'm not saying that Keir Starmer doesn't have his blind spots,

00:52:13.100 but when a guy steals an ice cream from a shop, you can guarantee that he's going to jail and then getting deported.

00:52:18.100 And that's all I ask, really.

00:52:19.680 That's all I want.

00:52:23.140 Thankfully, I suspect reform will be far less forgiving for shoplifters as well.

00:52:28.860 And so, all of this, just constant rake in the face, rake in the face, rake in the face.

00:52:34.060 But then we've got, like, this looming giant rake that's coming down on the Conservatives.

00:52:38.880 I have no idea why they put this out.

00:52:41.600 I have no idea why they put this out.

00:52:44.000 Don't wake up to this on the 5th of July.

00:52:46.440 It's bizarre, isn't it, this?

00:52:49.260 Unbelievable.

00:52:49.620 Unbelievable.

00:52:49.700 Unbelievable.

00:52:49.900 So, for anyone watching, it is someone rolling out the red carpet to the illegal boat invaders,

00:53:14.920 with a big welcome sign scrawled on the beach.

00:53:19.980 And the inference is, this is what you will get if you vote Labour.

00:53:22.960 Yeah.

00:53:23.620 And ironically, this is the Conservative Party policy, right?

00:53:27.760 This is unbelievable.

00:53:29.580 And honestly, I nearly burst a blood vessel when I saw it.

00:53:32.300 In fact, I mean, you know, I've given them a nice ratio there,

00:53:36.620 because this is literally their plan.

00:53:39.500 This is literally their policy.

00:53:40.600 Not even their plan.

00:53:41.120 This is what they've done.

00:53:41.800 They, we had a migrant hotel just over there, full of...

00:53:45.020 Or two next to each other.

00:53:45.940 Yeah, yeah, full of channel invaders, right?

00:53:48.000 This, 8 million a day, 5.5 million, a billion a year, sorry.

00:53:53.160 The total amount ballooned to 5.4 billion,

00:53:56.680 because the Conservatives would just bring them in,

00:53:58.540 and they would send the Coast Guard out to collect them,

00:54:00.940 and then they would bring them in safely,

00:54:03.180 put them in hotels, using your money.

00:54:05.380 Give them a spending allowance.

00:54:07.300 So, I would have put them in jails.

00:54:09.140 I would have put them in armed camps.

00:54:10.480 So, they'd be like, well, it's costing you 2 billion a year

00:54:12.000 to hold these armed camps.

00:54:12.760 I'd say, yeah, I know.

00:54:14.440 But that's only because, you know,

00:54:15.840 the fleet to deport them isn't ready yet.

00:54:18.400 Maybe they were talking about the red carpet.

00:54:20.520 Maybe it's going to be expensive on its own.

00:54:22.680 Maybe, but it's just really different.

00:54:24.860 People like Catherine Blakelock or Anne Whittacombe talk about,

00:54:27.440 yeah, you'll be interred until you're deported.

00:54:29.620 Yeah.

00:54:29.960 Yeah.

00:54:30.320 Well, you've actually invaded the country illegally.

00:54:33.460 You shouldn't be here.

00:54:34.700 You know you shouldn't be here.

00:54:36.100 Why did you think coming here was going to be a soft touch?

00:54:38.240 The reason why people hate this so much, the reason why Zero Seats is a thing now

00:54:42.440 and why it's so infuriating is that your average adult that's got their own mind,

00:54:46.780 the thing you hate the most, right, is being lied to or being treated like you're a child.

00:54:51.520 Being disrespected.

00:54:52.300 Being treated like you're a child or that you're stupid or you've got no memory.

00:54:56.020 That's what people hate more than anything else.

00:54:59.940 And that's exactly what this is.

00:55:01.420 Yeah.

00:55:01.880 Yeah.

00:55:02.300 I totally agree.

00:55:03.220 I mean, like, I dislike Keir Starmer, obviously, but he's not acting like he isn't what he is.

00:55:10.800 You know, the Conservatives are just flat out lying about their own record, about, you know,

00:55:14.820 your expectations, about what they've done.

00:55:16.780 And I just can't stand it.

00:55:17.720 I mean, like, okay, let's say you spent $5.4 billion in 2023, 2024, putting the migrants

00:55:23.700 up in four-star hotels for some reason.

00:55:25.840 Don't know why you'd do that, but okay, mental.

00:55:27.660 At least you'd be like, well, look, we just don't want to be rough on them as we mass deport

00:55:32.060 them or something.

00:55:32.900 No, no, 5,000 people, 5,000 legals got deported.

00:55:36.340 Like, there were 25,000 in total who were told to leave, but 5,000 actually got physically

00:55:40.820 deported.

00:55:41.420 Great.

00:55:42.100 Wonderful.

00:55:42.700 Wonderful.

00:55:42.860 And so then we get to the very crowning turd on the cake, which is the Conservatives trying

00:55:48.760 to make a claim on their record on immigration, right?

00:55:53.120 So you've got, say, James Cleverley here being like, by the way,

00:55:58.260 Here are three ways that Labour screwed up the UK's immigration system before.

00:56:02.680 One, in 2004, Labour was sending out search parties to find more migrants to come to the

00:56:10.560 UK, according to Peter Mandelson.

00:56:11.900 Two, in 2016, Labour's shadow Home Secretary said that under Labour, immigration had been

00:56:18.400 too fast.

00:56:20.220 And yet, in 2015, she was saying that every county council in the country should take 10

00:56:26.560 more migrant families.

00:56:28.340 And three, in 2020, Keir Starmer said he would bring back freedom of movement, making border

00:56:34.560 control completely impossible.

00:56:36.760 Border control?

00:56:38.480 What the hell is that?

00:56:40.000 When was the last time we saw any border control, James?

00:56:44.820 And just Conservatives...

00:56:45.500 Are you out of your mind?

00:56:47.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:48.080 The idea...

00:56:49.020 Out of your mind.

00:56:49.420 ...that Conservatives would even try to run on border control and lowering migration is

00:56:56.000 preposterous.

00:56:57.340 I mean, even during the pandemic, as you can see here, net migration was still positive.

00:57:02.180 Still 150,000 net in when the entire country is locked down.

00:57:07.280 I mean, what were those migrants thinking?

00:57:09.060 Arrived in Britain, nothing's open.

00:57:10.620 No one's on the streets.

00:57:11.680 The government's telling us we have to stay in our houses.

00:57:13.860 Why the hell have I come here?

00:57:15.500 You know, 150,000 of them turn and be like, right, this wasn't what I was expecting.

00:57:18.860 You know, like, a weird Soviet police state.

00:57:21.580 But no, welcome to modern Britain under the Conservative Party.

00:57:24.480 But then, of course, after the pandemic, you can see they're like, right, okay, we need

00:57:28.420 to crank open the borders now, lads, to 1.2 million for last year and the year before.

00:57:34.780 It's like, just, it's never happened before.

00:57:38.200 More people have come under the Conservative government than have ever come at any point

00:57:41.860 in history.

00:57:42.780 Like, it was something like the entire immigration into England between 1066 and, like, 1997.

00:57:48.160 They have surpassed.

00:57:50.060 It's mad.

00:57:50.900 It's absolute madness.

00:57:52.120 And so the idea that they'd be like, oh, well, you know, careful, Labour will open the

00:57:54.840 borders.

00:57:55.460 My brother in Christ, that's you.

00:57:58.120 You are the Labour Party.

00:57:59.940 Zero seats.

00:58:01.160 Zero seats.

00:58:01.680 A crime of unprecedented magnitude.

00:58:04.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:58:05.420 I have to write a book to explain the betrayal on this.

00:58:09.300 But no, just stop posting on your social media.

00:58:11.840 You're terrible at it.

00:58:12.920 Everything you post is just a rate to your own faces.

00:58:15.100 And you deserve the zero seats that you're going to get.

00:58:18.240 One last thing, if I could add to that, which is a little bit conspiratorial, because there's

00:58:23.220 no proper, proper, full-blown evidence for it.

00:58:26.000 But it is sort of almost inexplicable.

00:58:27.620 A lot of people have been saying, like, you've described it as like a stroke.

00:58:32.220 It's almost inexplicable why the Tories are being so bad, trying to get themselves re-elected.

00:58:39.420 Do you remember when Obama came and visited, out of the blue, came and visited Rishi?

00:58:43.620 Yeah.

00:58:43.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:44.320 What was he then?

00:58:45.040 Yeah.

00:58:45.520 Hanging around.

00:58:46.060 It feels like, and again, there's no proper evidence for this, but it just feels like he

00:58:50.180 sort of had a message from the party of Davos, from the WEF overlords, whoever it is,

00:58:56.000 saying, it's time to call an election and throw it.

00:58:59.700 We want Starmer in now.

00:59:01.500 We see a window of opportunity where Starmer, our other puppet, our backup puppet, can get

00:59:07.800 a massive majority.

00:59:08.720 And that's better for us now.

00:59:10.500 So call an election and throw it.

00:59:12.640 Yeah.

00:59:12.800 Uni Party stays in power forever now, which is why it's so imperative to vote reform, frankly.

00:59:18.440 So we've got to make sure that Farage can get somewhere.

00:59:21.380 Nige for PM this time around.

00:59:23.060 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:23.920 Yeah.

00:59:24.200 Make it happen.

00:59:27.100 Right.

00:59:27.700 We're going to talk about safety and distraction.

00:59:29.820 A lot of people are distracted now by Euro 2024.

00:59:34.140 And it's important to remember, tomorrow, England will play with Slovenia at eight o'clock.

00:59:39.900 Euro 2024.

00:59:41.200 Make sure you don't add to an increase in domestic abuse and violence, which can increase during

00:59:45.800 these competitions.

00:59:47.280 As much as 38% if the national side loses.

00:59:51.100 Keep the game clean.

00:59:52.140 It's a beautiful game for a reason.

00:59:54.320 To be fair, that is a legit thing that happens.

00:59:56.780 Yeah.

00:59:57.280 Is it?

00:59:57.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:58.100 When football teams lose their matches, domestic violence goes up.

01:00:02.220 Is that right?

01:00:02.820 Yeah, it's true.

01:00:03.120 Is that real?

01:00:03.640 Yeah.

01:00:03.920 I've never heard that before.

01:00:04.880 Is it actual domestic violence or just, I'm just mad I'm taking the TV controller and

01:00:09.540 smashing the table kind of thing, which is just.

01:00:14.200 Reports of domestic violence do actually go up.

01:00:16.240 Okay.

01:00:16.660 So.

01:00:17.520 So keep calm and watch soccer.

01:00:20.640 So we have here.

01:00:22.440 It's football, not soccer.

01:00:24.040 Yeah.

01:00:25.100 Okay.

01:00:25.820 How do you want me to call it?

01:00:27.020 Football.

01:00:27.620 Football.

01:00:27.960 Okay.

01:00:28.280 Football.

01:00:28.900 Okay.

01:00:29.220 So England, one Serbia here, one zero.

01:00:32.640 Okay.

01:00:32.980 The next match with Denmark wasn't particularly good.

01:00:36.100 I've heard it was a tie, one one.

01:00:39.320 The next one with Slovenia is tomorrow.

01:00:41.700 So here you have some stuff here to watch.

01:00:44.080 And if you want to get distracted by it, remember, just be stoic and don't unleash your inner hooligan.

01:00:54.180 But there is someone who is trying to spoil the fun, someone who is particularly concerned about the events and people watching football.

01:01:06.080 And that is Sadiq Khan.

01:01:07.820 So this is the worst time of year for him, isn't it?

01:01:11.020 In England, flags everywhere.

01:01:12.620 Sadiq Khan seething.

01:01:14.060 Yes.

01:01:14.360 So apparently there's a problem with black cab drivers and their choice to hang the St. George's flag on them.

01:01:24.480 And Sadiq Khan is not having it.

01:01:26.320 Here we have Niall Gardner saying that England-hating woke mayor of London, TFL, which is Transport for London, imposes woke ban on cab drivers flying England flag during Euros.

01:01:40.680 Oh my God, that just wouldn't happen in any other country, would it?

01:01:43.060 It's like, no, you can't fly your own national flag anymore because I'm going to carry on.

01:01:49.660 Yeah.

01:01:50.020 This has a history about it.

01:01:53.100 Like we said before, we're not going to just view things from the short-term perspective, but it has a history of at least 25 years.

01:01:59.860 Emily Thornberry seething.

01:02:01.340 I see here somewhere in the replies there was someone saying, you know, Boris Johnson did it in 2012.

01:02:07.580 You're not talking about that.

01:02:09.340 But apparently it's happening for a long time.

01:02:11.940 Right, right.

01:02:12.360 Well, one thing, quick anecdote.

01:02:14.020 I used to have pinned up a St. George's flag on the ceiling of my bedroom.

01:02:21.240 This is in the 90s when I was a teenager and loved football.

01:02:25.220 My whole life revolved around football.

01:02:27.020 And I remember getting friends back from school or six from college and they would see the St. George's flag on the bedroom of my ceiling and be like, snigger a bit and be like, really?

01:02:37.280 Really?

01:02:37.560 Like you're doing that?

01:02:38.260 Yeah.

01:02:39.040 And that was in like the mid to late 90s.

01:02:41.680 So it's been a long, long time.

01:02:44.140 The St. George's flag is, they've tried to make it synonymous with just being a bigot or a nationalist, assuming that all nationalism is inherently evil or something.

01:02:54.080 See, that's my problem.

01:02:54.780 My problem is the St. George's flag is associated with football.

01:02:57.340 I really want to fly it, but I'm not a football guy.

01:02:59.600 I don't want people thinking I like football.

01:03:01.460 What's wrong with football?

01:03:03.100 I'm just not a football guy.

01:03:04.680 Okay, okay.

01:03:05.200 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.

01:03:06.440 It's just not my thing.

01:03:07.520 So just for anyone wondering, when you see me with an England flag, it's because I love England, not because I like football.

01:03:13.380 Okay.

01:03:13.700 I just want to make that clear.

01:03:14.400 To add something to what Bo said, I have never heard there being a problem with other flags, like, you know, the flag of Yorkshire or other flags.

01:03:23.880 It's just the flag of St. George.

01:03:26.280 Or the LGBTQ plus flag.

01:03:28.120 That's no problem with that.

01:03:29.960 June is coming to an end.

01:03:31.420 We still have a week to go.

01:03:32.860 Let's be patient.

01:03:33.740 Okay, we have here an article from the Daily Mail.

01:03:36.820 It says, fury after Sadiq Khan's TFL imposes woke ban on taxi drivers flying England flag during the Euros because it could distract motorists.

01:03:46.120 It's a very distracting flag.

01:03:47.720 Apparently, you know, the latest version of the rainbow flag isn't particularly distracting.

01:03:53.060 It doesn't have that many colors.

01:03:56.560 Yeah.

01:03:56.940 We need it on the crosswalks.

01:03:58.240 We need it hanging from the buildings.

01:03:59.660 We need it literally painted on the sides of the trains and everything.

01:04:03.040 Yeah, no, that's totally fine.

01:04:05.100 And there's a question why.

01:04:07.820 I think it has to do with possibly motorists being having the psychology of a bull.

01:04:14.860 When they see red, they just want to charge instantly.

01:04:18.300 It says, Sadiq Khan's transfer for London has sparked fury after imposing a woke ban on taxi drivers flying an England flag because it could distract motorists.

01:04:27.040 It's only because Sadiq Khan can't stop grinding his teeth.

01:04:30.260 Yeah.

01:04:30.560 TFL bosses said the St. George's Cross could possibly cause road accidents in the capital by attracting the attention of motorists.

01:04:38.920 That's why I said it has red in it.

01:04:41.760 There's too many English from saluting as they drive past.

01:04:44.320 It's obvious nonsense, isn't it?

01:04:46.820 Obvious nonsense.

01:04:47.780 But there's a pattern here that I've noticed because it's good to notice patterns.

01:04:53.400 I think that they are constantly talking about safety and they make this an issue of safety.

01:04:58.680 And that's interesting because if you see, wokeness is all about talking about safety and interpret everything as basically victimizing someone.

01:05:08.120 Yeah.

01:05:08.260 That's why they're trying to make this into a harmful incident.

01:05:14.780 Yeah.

01:05:15.120 That could distract people and it could actually cause accidents in the street.

01:05:21.200 But no other flag has problems.

01:05:23.360 Now, they do say that they sort of ban all other flags, but honestly, no one believes this.

01:05:31.220 Last time I went to London, last time almost everyone who has been to London and has told me, they say basically it's full of Palestinian flags.

01:05:40.980 Yeah.

01:05:41.120 Apparently, Sadiq Khan doesn't find that distracting.

01:05:43.760 Is it just specifically in St. George's?

01:05:45.300 So could you fly the sort of the three lions, the sort of golden three lions on a background of red?

01:05:51.140 Would cabbies be allowed to?

01:05:52.700 No.

01:05:53.380 Fly that flag?

01:05:54.660 Presumably not.

01:05:55.660 What about the Union flag?

01:05:57.740 I know that's not England.

01:05:58.480 I think the Union flag is allowed because it's more an instance of, you know, a civic symbol.

01:06:06.420 Right.

01:06:07.180 Okay.

01:06:07.560 Whereas they're trying to portray the St. George's flag as a bad ethnic one.

01:06:13.280 Yeah, but the thing is you can easily test this by just flying a gay flag, right?

01:06:17.480 They're never going to stop me going, no trans pride flags here, please.

01:06:21.400 They'll never happen.

01:06:22.140 Or a Palestinian one or a Pakistani one.

01:06:24.560 It's not distracting.

01:06:25.600 Even if where you have a pride mural on the street, which is a bit weird because if you, why would you want your symbol to be run over by cars?

01:06:35.480 Stabbed by people?

01:06:36.800 It's a statement of dominance.

01:06:38.020 That's why.

01:06:38.380 Okay, furious drivers have slammed the new rule, claiming the flags are no more distracting than advertisements painted on cars or lorries.

01:06:47.400 And they're absolutely correct.

01:06:48.800 So we have here Darren Grimes saying,

01:06:51.940 under England's hating Sadiq Khan's mayorship, London taxi drivers are now banned from displaying English flags during the years.

01:06:59.160 And this is only in London.

01:07:01.020 Sorry, can we just scroll down to the image, please?

01:07:02.840 Yes.

01:07:03.400 When we win, that's what England's going to look like.

01:07:05.960 That's what London's going to look like every day when we win.

01:07:09.580 But taxes aren't enough for Sadiq Khan and he wants to find people who do this.

01:07:14.840 Right, so I want to show you exactly what is going on here with the safety issue because I saw that there are flag protocols.

01:07:24.700 And we have here from GovUK, Flying Flags, a plain English guide.

01:07:28.260 And they say flags are a very British way of expressing joy and pride.

01:07:32.440 They are emotive symbols which can boost local and national identities, strengthen community cohesion and mark civic pride.

01:07:38.980 Well, there are many flags other than the English one that are flown in London that have nothing to do with civic pride in the United Kingdom.

01:07:49.600 You know, just saying.

01:07:51.640 And they're saying here all flag flying is subject to some standard conditions.

01:07:55.760 And they split there into categories and they say flags which do not need consent.

01:08:01.600 They say any country's national flag.

01:08:03.900 And if you look at number three, a flag of any island, county, district, borough, parish, city, town or village within the United Kingdom, basically it has to do with that flag of you see.

01:08:18.800 Sorry, can we go down a little bit more?

01:08:20.600 Yeah.

01:08:20.980 So the flag of St. David, the flag of St. Patrick.

01:08:24.560 Is there a saint missing from that?

01:08:27.820 George?

01:08:28.460 Yeah.

01:08:29.280 The flag of St. George is not on the list.

01:08:31.560 Well, it's the classic thing.

01:08:33.000 Scottish nationalism.

01:08:34.580 Totally fine.

01:08:35.040 Is something brilliant.

01:08:36.520 Ply Cymru, the Welsh nationalism.

01:08:38.680 Totally fine.

01:08:38.920 That's great.

01:08:39.360 Irish nationalism, of course.

01:08:41.840 But English nationalism, ah, well, no, that's beyond the pale.

01:08:44.820 That's evil.

01:08:45.520 But how is it the flag of St. George is not on that list?

01:08:50.880 Sorry, again, a conservative government.

01:08:54.720 Deep, obvious omission there.

01:08:57.500 Yeah.

01:08:58.820 Because it is distracting for drivers.

01:09:01.180 You need consent to fly the St. George's flag.

01:09:04.120 Shut up.

01:09:06.080 And we have here someone who is actually defending.

01:09:09.940 Zero seats, man.

01:09:12.360 I wanted to show you, and they're saying, basically, this is sensationalism at its finest,

01:09:16.380 that, you know, the online right is victimizing itself.

01:09:19.340 And they say, the reality, safety over symbolism.

01:09:23.600 Here's the actual detail, which is rather boring when you boil it down.

01:09:26.480 The rules are there to ensure that anything attached to a vehicle doesn't block the driver's view or become a projectile in case of an accident.

01:09:33.980 This applies to all flags, mascots, and decorations, regardless of their design.

01:09:38.440 So who's saying this?

01:09:39.240 There is an account here that is the bear, satirical fact-checking.

01:09:46.340 I'm just showing, and they're saying, basically, the right, Tommy Robinson and people all over the place who are complaining are ignoring the safety aspect of it.

01:09:57.520 And they're being ironic here.

01:09:59.740 This tweet is sort of sarcastic, is it?

01:10:02.100 I don't know.

01:10:03.520 Anyway.

01:10:04.400 Here.

01:10:05.240 Being on a Pride wrap train, bus, or IFS cloud cable yet, apparently these are not distracting.

01:10:13.460 You can play this here with some issues, but you can guess.

01:10:17.620 We have lots of Pride flags and lots of Pride buses and Pride trains.

01:10:24.080 Come on, get ready for the sun.

01:10:27.060 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:10:28.280 Yeah, that's not distracting at all.

01:10:30.020 Yeah, I was a bit distracted with the music.

01:10:32.500 Actually, all joking aside, isn't there evidence that police horses and certain horses...

01:10:38.440 There's a video of them.

01:10:39.500 They actually do get spooked by the gay Pride colours.

01:10:44.800 Yeah.

01:10:45.040 Right?

01:10:45.300 They genuinely do.

01:10:46.740 They also walk more proudly and are more obedient under the England flag.

01:10:50.820 It's science.

01:10:52.060 Yeah.

01:10:52.220 So, I did some digging here, and I found out that this goes a long time ago, at least 25 years.

01:10:59.960 So, I found an article from The Guardian that was published in 1999, October.

01:11:05.920 So, this is something the Labour Party brought in, is it?

01:11:10.060 I bet it is.

01:11:11.820 Just saying, 1999.

01:11:14.380 Cabbies protest at England flag ban.

01:11:16.600 London's black cab drivers are planning to protest this week at a police ban on their flying the St. George flag from their Cubs before England's Euro 2000 qualifies against Scotland next month.

01:11:28.560 It's the same story.

01:11:30.160 But, it's not just when it comes to football events.

01:11:35.640 We have all sorts of other events across the years that have sparked the same response.

01:11:42.180 And again, if you see here, I want to scroll down.

01:11:45.080 They're talking about safety.

01:11:47.500 You'll see that in the next one.

01:11:51.400 Sorry, I missed the thing.

01:11:54.200 So, here is in June 2016, a pub owner was told to basically take down the English flag.

01:12:00.540 Pub boss told to take down English flags in Bunting.

01:12:03.760 And you see here, a landlord has been ordered to pull down his English flags for health and safety reasons.

01:12:09.840 Yeah, it's a consistent pattern where it's only the England flags.

01:12:13.900 And it's for nonsense reasons.

01:12:15.860 Yes.

01:12:16.160 And they wouldn't demand this of any other kind of flag.

01:12:18.440 They're just doing it because of the England flag because they're trying to immiserate English identity.

01:12:22.360 And they're talking about regulars who were completely angered by that decision.

01:12:26.220 And they say, you know, where do we live?

01:12:28.640 Lynette O'Shea wrote, where do we live?

01:12:30.840 England.

01:12:31.660 Or somewhere else.

01:12:32.980 This is a joke.

01:12:33.900 Yes, put more up for the cheek of it.

01:12:36.000 Ask them, who's this offended?

01:12:37.800 Because they're clearly not from England.

01:12:39.840 You have old people saying...

01:12:43.280 Unfortunately, that's not necessarily true.

01:12:44.380 Again, the Emily Thornburys.

01:12:46.500 Perfectly English people, but obviously woke.

01:12:49.740 There is a self-loathing domestic enemy within, aren't there?

01:12:53.400 Yeah.

01:12:54.160 And you have a spokesman from Lancashire County.

01:12:57.620 What did that spokesman say?

01:13:00.240 We're all for people showing their support for their England team.

01:13:03.020 It's just that in this case, the Bunting has been up over a busy A-road,

01:13:08.540 and we wouldn't want the landlord or the council to be held responsible if it came down and caused an accident.

01:13:15.380 Such an obvious lie.

01:13:17.560 But this is also blackmailing.

01:13:18.780 Bunting over roads all over the country.

01:13:19.800 Because they're saying, you know, if people just have an accident, okay,

01:13:24.220 if you have, it's going to be on you.

01:13:26.220 Why?

01:13:26.520 Because there was an English flag in their vision.

01:13:28.460 They never say that about the pride bunting that's up.

01:13:31.760 Because, of course, some fallen bunting is well known to stop vehicles.

01:13:38.880 That's why I said, I think they have the psychology of a bull motorist.

01:13:43.460 So that's why it's distracting.

01:13:45.000 Oh, right.

01:13:45.580 They don't like the way that the red is like a cross-centered there.

01:13:49.660 It's like, you know, just that's where you should aim at.

01:13:52.840 I was thinking a bit of bunting falls down into the road,

01:13:55.480 and a taxi going 40 mile an hour hits it, and it's like hitting a brick wall.

01:13:59.360 Yeah.

01:14:00.180 We have another case here from 2008.

01:14:02.720 Police told man to hide racist St. George flag.

01:14:06.540 A football fan says police ordered him to remove from his car

01:14:09.880 because it could be deemed racist.

01:14:12.640 That's why I put it up.

01:14:14.200 Against which race?

01:14:16.740 All other races.

01:14:18.280 All of them.

01:14:19.000 Yeah.

01:14:19.360 All the races.

01:14:20.040 Yes, if we scroll down a bit, it said Ben Smith, 18 years old back then,

01:14:26.880 was pulled over for a routine spot check by an officer

01:14:29.640 who inspected his tires and road tacks.

01:14:32.280 But the laborer was stunned to be told that a St. George flag

01:14:35.260 covering his Vauxhall Corsair's parasol shelf was offensive to immigrants.

01:14:39.760 See, this is what I love.

01:14:41.120 It's this sort of thing that's a great mask off moment, right?

01:14:43.700 Because someone like Sadiq Khan will be more sophisticated

01:14:47.560 than the regular Bobby on the beat, right?

01:14:49.500 And so he'll give you, well, I mean, the flags could come off

01:14:52.240 and cause accidents, so we've just got to take them down.

01:14:55.020 And this one instance just happens to be the England flag

01:14:57.400 and we'll never do anything about the Palestinian flags.

01:15:00.140 But the sort of, you know, 95 IQ beat police officer is just like,

01:15:05.340 oh, no, it's offensive to immigrants, mate,

01:15:06.720 because that's what his supervisor has told him.

01:15:09.200 Right.

01:15:09.600 And he's obviously like, look, you know, just don't say that,

01:15:12.300 but, you know, it's offensive to the immigrants.

01:15:13.780 We don't want English pride in England.

01:15:15.860 That would be bad.

01:15:16.680 That would make them feel inclusive and like this is their land.

01:15:19.380 It's like, yeah, well, just racist to immigrants, mate.

01:15:22.020 You've got to get rid of it.

01:15:23.500 Idiot.

01:15:24.060 Well done, idiot.

01:15:25.300 He initially thought the officer was joking

01:15:27.220 until he was threatened with a £30 fine

01:15:29.460 if he refused to remove it from you.

01:15:31.940 Mr. Smith said,

01:15:33.740 I honestly could not believe what the police officer was saying.

01:15:36.980 And says he wasn't rude about it at all.

01:15:39.660 He was just very matter of fact about the flag being racist

01:15:42.220 and being offensive to immigrants.

01:15:43.540 That's exactly as I was saying.

01:15:45.520 Yeah.

01:15:45.740 I wonder, it's a classic thing to say to a police officer,

01:15:48.560 what is, under which piece of legislation,

01:15:51.000 which act of parliament am I being fined?

01:15:54.380 I guess it would be maybe like the Race Relations Act or something.

01:15:56.840 I've got no idea.

01:15:57.600 Race Relations Act.

01:15:58.420 I've got no idea.

01:15:59.040 It doesn't make any sense, does it?

01:16:01.620 It's got no bearing on reality, really.

01:16:03.360 But that's not what it's about at all.

01:16:05.100 Right.

01:16:05.380 It's just about making sure the English don't feel patriotic

01:16:07.280 about being in England.

01:16:08.060 And also, woke governance and, you know,

01:16:13.420 the spirit of woke legislation is all about double standards.

01:16:16.760 Oh, yeah.

01:16:17.380 Protecting groups.

01:16:18.340 Yeah, it's all about protecting groups

01:16:19.680 and arbitrarily exercising authority.

01:16:21.760 Well, it's not even arbitrary.

01:16:23.600 It's reducing the power of the majority

01:16:26.460 for the benefits of the minority.

01:16:28.380 From that perspective, yeah.

01:16:29.660 But I think what I'm talking about arbitrariness

01:16:31.800 is that they completely subjectivize legislation.

01:16:34.960 Because when they're talking about looking at a flag being harmful

01:16:38.280 and being offensive, this is just entirely subjective.

01:16:43.360 See, can I just give an example of how horses react

01:16:45.980 when they're under the England flag?

01:16:47.520 See, a shocking video shows tourists head-butted

01:16:49.700 after standing too close to the Kingsguard horse.

01:16:52.600 See?

01:16:53.360 When under the England flag, the horses are proud

01:16:55.400 and they head-butt foreigners.

01:16:59.940 Right.

01:17:00.800 And, you know, just, it's exactly what...

01:17:03.460 Okay, I'm just joking.

01:17:04.960 No, it's exactly what you said.

01:17:06.460 It's just all a double standard raise

01:17:10.260 to make people not feel good about their country

01:17:13.540 and thinking that any kind of national pride is a bad thing.

01:17:18.380 And you're right that it's arbitrary in the sense

01:17:19.800 that it's just down to the discretion of some random beat cop

01:17:22.900 to just throw out fines.

01:17:26.600 Yeah.

01:17:26.820 As in when he says fit.

01:17:28.160 When in doubt, just plead someone is causing hate

01:17:32.380 and fine them or just marginalize them,

01:17:35.660 completely destroy their social position or whatever.

01:17:39.380 Such an intolerant police officer.

01:17:41.500 And last thing here, we have from Nigel Farage.

01:17:45.060 He's saying basically,

01:17:46.280 Can really hates England.

01:17:48.220 True.

01:17:48.420 It's obviously true.

01:17:50.600 Just a statement of fact.

01:17:51.880 Yeah.

01:17:52.500 Yeah.

01:17:52.840 Thought we could end with this.

01:17:54.920 End.

01:17:55.180 Okay.

01:17:56.220 Yeah, well, you know, wave your England flags.

01:17:59.460 Right, and with that, we'll go to the video comments.

01:18:01.040 We'll get the money from.

01:18:06.480 You know, I used to think that these people just worked harder.

01:18:09.440 But the longer I live, the more I just think,

01:18:11.680 there's just too many of them that don't,

01:18:13.840 and they're just throwing shit out the window.

01:18:15.640 Of course they're going to litter.

01:18:17.360 To litter and they're not going to give a shit at all

01:18:20.000 about the surrounding area.

01:18:21.680 This is unscripted.

01:18:22.660 I see this every day.

01:18:24.000 It's always the same,

01:18:25.400 just groups of people doing the same crap every single time.

01:18:28.760 And you expect me not to notice.

01:18:30.580 You expect me to just shut up for the good of diversity.

01:18:33.540 You know, get fucked.

01:18:36.180 Well, sometimes littering is precisely like giving one.

01:18:40.000 Literally.

01:18:42.760 What?

01:18:43.340 Sorry.

01:18:43.720 They were saying not giving a...

01:18:45.620 Oh, right.

01:18:46.500 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:47.620 Sorry, yeah.

01:18:48.500 But, yeah, well, I mean,

01:18:49.900 if this was somewhere that you occupied

01:18:52.180 and you knew someone else was going to clean up for you,

01:18:54.520 someone of the untouchables class was going to clean up,

01:18:56.920 why wouldn't you?

01:18:57.400 And ultimately,

01:18:58.420 you don't care if it's cleaned up or not even.

01:19:01.280 It doesn't really register.

01:19:02.880 I mean,

01:19:03.380 there's this,

01:19:04.620 it's whether you were brought up right,

01:19:05.960 isn't it?

01:19:06.140 It's whether you were brought up civilised or not.

01:19:08.220 Yeah.

01:19:09.300 Just don't litter for its own sake.

01:19:12.700 Yeah.

01:19:12.840 If you've got a bit of rubbish,

01:19:14.120 you wait till you find a bin

01:19:15.640 and then you put it in the bin.

01:19:17.000 For its own sake,

01:19:17.740 don't be a litter bug.

01:19:18.800 Do you remember that when you were a kid?

01:19:19.700 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:20.200 Don't be a litter bug.

01:19:20.940 It's just rude.

01:19:21.940 Yeah.

01:19:22.260 Unironically,

01:19:23.080 I was about 30 when I realised,

01:19:24.820 actually,

01:19:25.140 no,

01:19:25.360 it's all sort of clicked into place.

01:19:27.180 It's like,

01:19:27.340 no,

01:19:27.460 that is wrong.

01:19:28.580 And I remember times when I was a kid,

01:19:30.220 when I had done it,

01:19:31.160 I thought,

01:19:31.440 oh,

01:19:31.560 I really regret doing that.

01:19:32.780 It wakes up the medievalist in me.

01:19:35.040 Yeah,

01:19:35.260 yeah,

01:19:35.420 yeah.

01:19:36.260 What's this thing like holding the door open for someone,

01:19:39.100 not littering,

01:19:40.080 not spitting,

01:19:41.380 all this sort of thing.

01:19:42.460 Being decent.

01:19:43.340 And someone said in a segment the other day that,

01:19:45.860 you know,

01:19:46.300 you go to all sorts of places in the third world

01:19:48.120 and there's just giant,

01:19:49.220 giant rubbish piles everywhere.

01:19:51.300 Drop a pin into India

01:19:52.640 and then just go to Street View and see what you see.

01:19:55.240 Because the concept

01:19:56.340 that it's everyone's responsibility

01:19:58.220 not to live in filth,

01:19:59.960 that's an alien concept.

01:20:02.060 It just doesn't register.

01:20:03.560 Sure,

01:20:03.740 but it's also like,

01:20:04.800 you know,

01:20:05.040 part of being like,

01:20:05.740 I guess you'd call it low trust society behaviour

01:20:07.840 or something like that.

01:20:08.480 Yeah,

01:20:08.580 yeah.

01:20:08.860 It's just,

01:20:09.260 if we all just do the right thing

01:20:11.100 for the right reason,

01:20:12.220 then we'll have a good country

01:20:13.260 and everyone just agrees with it.

01:20:15.700 Just,

01:20:15.880 you know,

01:20:16.080 it was just the national culture.

01:20:18.320 The same thing,

01:20:19.700 like in Germany,

01:20:20.500 it's crazy.

01:20:21.300 There's no litter on the streets

01:20:22.380 and there's no bins anywhere.

01:20:24.100 It's mad.

01:20:24.880 So,

01:20:25.120 I mean,

01:20:25.380 normally I take my rubbish to the bin

01:20:27.280 and that's fine.

01:20:28.880 And I live in Germany,

01:20:30.100 it's like,

01:20:30.420 you don't have any bins.

01:20:31.340 I guess I'll just take it home then,

01:20:32.700 I suppose.

01:20:33.600 You know,

01:20:33.920 it's even more strict.

01:20:35.680 I think it is certainly a cultural thing.

01:20:37.280 You look at Singapore,

01:20:38.500 South Korea,

01:20:39.160 Japan,

01:20:40.280 extremely clean and neat and tidy.

01:20:43.080 It's about how they're raised.

01:20:45.000 Let's go to the next one.

01:20:48.000 Lads,

01:20:48.540 you may remember

01:20:49.360 a couple of months back

01:20:50.440 there was that jeep on Twitter

01:20:52.800 saying that you could get

01:20:54.140 personal independence payments

01:20:55.560 if you snore.

01:20:57.420 Well,

01:20:57.860 I'm sorry to say

01:20:58.480 I've been through the process.

01:21:00.280 I've given it a go

01:21:01.180 and I snore like a falcon,

01:21:03.080 but they've turned me down.

01:21:05.080 You get zero points.

01:21:06.340 If literally all you do is snore,

01:21:08.280 unfortunately,

01:21:08.800 we can't have benefits,

01:21:10.640 so we'll have to do tax avoidance

01:21:12.520 some other way.

01:21:14.060 Don't worry,

01:21:14.640 I'm sure that'll change

01:21:15.340 when Starmer gets in charge.

01:21:16.440 Or maybe you should have

01:21:17.340 misspelled your surname

01:21:18.380 so it sounded foreign.

01:21:21.720 Let's go to Sands.

01:21:22.680 Mr. Grumble

01:21:29.260 Mr. Grumble

01:21:29.280 Mr. Grumble is a misery

01:21:30.180 that you can be sure

01:21:31.420 He will grumble at the door

01:21:32.900 bell as he stumbles to the door

01:21:34.400 He will grumble in the morning

01:21:35.980 He will grumble late at night

01:21:37.380 He will grumble when it's raining

01:21:38.940 He will grumble when it's dry

01:21:40.320 He will grumble when it's windy

01:21:41.860 He will grumble when it's not

01:21:43.280 He will grumble even though

01:21:44.760 he doesn't mean to

01:21:46.540 Poor old Mr. Grumble

01:21:50.540 Never thinks that anything

01:21:53.900 is ever gonna turn up right

01:21:56.180 The thing is,

01:21:58.420 I'm not sure that Pete Hitchens

01:21:59.360 is wrong about being a Doomer.

01:22:01.880 That's the problem.

01:22:03.080 I am sure.

01:22:04.720 Good.

01:22:05.460 I'm glad someone is.

01:22:07.020 I mean,

01:22:07.680 he's pretty,

01:22:08.080 you know,

01:22:08.420 there's always a kind of

01:22:10.140 charisma to being a Doomer as well

01:22:12.420 because it's hard,

01:22:13.540 even if you're wrong,

01:22:14.440 well,

01:22:14.660 I might not be wrong next time.

01:22:16.240 You know,

01:22:16.660 it's easy to be a

01:22:18.180 depressant about things.

01:22:20.540 But,

01:22:21.040 I don't know,

01:22:22.380 I just don't have it in me.

01:22:23.900 No,

01:22:24.040 no,

01:22:24.140 I'm too optimistic.

01:22:25.180 I'm a natural optimist.

01:22:26.740 I despise Demas.

01:22:28.420 Yeah,

01:22:29.000 I don't despise him.

01:22:29.940 I like Pete Hitchens,

01:22:30.720 but like,

01:22:31.280 you know,

01:22:31.760 and he's right about so many things.

01:22:33.140 I just don't want him to be right

01:22:34.260 about anything when it comes to that.

01:22:36.180 No Denethor poster,

01:22:37.320 we're not having it.

01:22:38.540 Right,

01:22:38.980 let's go to the next one.

01:22:39.660 Captain Flynn.

01:22:40.320 When I was growing up,

01:22:42.240 much fiction was influenced

01:22:43.420 by piratical tales

01:22:44.600 such as Treasure Island.

01:22:46.080 While I would relish

01:22:46.920 a return of the style,

01:22:48.000 it must be rooted in fact.

01:22:49.980 The Black Ship

01:22:50.760 tells the utterly compelling

01:22:51.960 true story

01:22:52.680 of the bloody mutiny

01:22:53.640 aboard HMS Hermione.

01:22:55.240 The book describes

01:22:56.160 the vile Captain Piggott,

01:22:57.660 how he pushed his crew

01:22:58.620 to rise up,

01:22:59.600 the aftermath

01:23:00.140 where they tried to hide,

01:23:01.520 and how many of them

01:23:02.300 were tracked down

01:23:02.800 to face trial

01:23:03.480 in the following years.

01:23:04.460 Interesting is how

01:23:05.840 justice in the Royal Navy

01:23:06.980 could be merciful

01:23:07.740 to those who variously

01:23:09.040 turned king's evidence,

01:23:10.580 could muster favourable witnesses,

01:23:12.220 or show contrition.

01:23:13.440 For the others,

01:23:14.220 it wasn't just hanging,

01:23:15.240 but also gibbeting.

01:23:17.920 Just want to point out

01:23:18.900 that Norrington

01:23:19.520 was the hero

01:23:20.100 of Pirates of the Caribbean.

01:23:23.100 Not even a spicy day.

01:23:25.440 You know?

01:23:25.880 Yeah,

01:23:26.040 I love all the stories

01:23:26.920 of sort of the 18th,

01:23:28.000 19th century

01:23:28.920 high seas adventure.

01:23:31.920 What's interesting

01:23:32.740 is there's a kind of

01:23:33.460 dichotomy

01:23:33.920 where it's sort of like

01:23:34.400 modernism

01:23:35.060 encountering the old world

01:23:36.600 as well.

01:23:37.780 So you've got like

01:23:38.300 quite reasonable

01:23:38.980 and, you know,

01:23:40.280 the technology's archaic,

01:23:41.760 but the attitudes

01:23:43.580 are a lot more modern

01:23:44.840 for like rule of law

01:23:45.960 and all this sort of stuff.

01:23:47.780 They encounter,

01:23:48.420 you know,

01:23:48.520 some savage tribe

01:23:49.540 in Patagonia

01:23:50.480 or something,

01:23:51.340 and it's something

01:23:51.820 totally ancient.

01:23:53.320 You know,

01:23:53.500 so you get a nice

01:23:54.680 clash of worlds

01:23:55.620 in the frame,

01:23:57.300 in the setting.

01:23:58.740 I know it's not Pirates,

01:23:59.740 but, you know,

01:24:00.200 I've done some epochs

01:24:02.320 on Drake

01:24:03.640 and a couple of weeks ago

01:24:05.060 did a two-part series

01:24:05.900 with James Cook.

01:24:07.300 Yeah,

01:24:07.620 Captain James Cook

01:24:08.260 with the superb

01:24:08.860 Luca Johnson.

01:24:10.520 So, yeah,

01:24:11.040 it's not the pirate side

01:24:12.020 of the equation,

01:24:12.760 but still,

01:24:13.920 brilliant,

01:24:14.740 brilliant stories.

01:24:16.080 Let's go on to the next one.

01:24:16.920 Stelios's right-wing

01:24:19.000 derangement segment

01:24:20.280 perfectly describes

01:24:21.560 the tautological Templar.

01:24:24.640 Out of your pain,

01:24:26.660 paradise was born.

01:24:29.220 I don't know how you survived,

01:24:31.760 but your suffering

01:24:32.740 is over now.

01:24:34.640 These men will ease

01:24:36.200 your burden.

01:24:38.040 Please understand

01:24:39.380 that like all I have done,

01:24:41.740 this is an act of love.

01:24:44.300 I didn't see the segment.

01:24:48.800 Basically,

01:24:49.340 I said that it's the

01:24:50.400 presentation of anything

01:24:52.300 to the right

01:24:53.000 of social democracy

01:24:54.060 as far right.

01:24:55.220 Oh, right.

01:24:55.760 And for some reason,

01:24:57.160 parties who call themselves

01:24:58.280 center right

01:24:58.880 are playing into it.

01:25:01.140 Let's go to the next one.

01:25:03.140 A gentleman's observations

01:25:04.340 of Swindon,

01:25:04.940 chapter seven.

01:25:05.880 Throughout the medieval period,

01:25:06.960 farms in the south

01:25:07.540 of Swindon reared sheep

01:25:08.360 while farms in the north

01:25:09.140 of Swindon reared pigs

01:25:09.940 and cattle,

01:25:10.500 allowing for tanners

01:25:11.100 and wool mongers

01:25:11.740 to operate in the town.

01:25:12.540 The town market was on

01:25:13.740 the decline by the 1640s,

01:25:15.280 but a cattle plague

01:25:15.840 in Highworth in 1652

01:25:17.100 bolstered Swindon's

01:25:17.900 cattle sales

01:25:18.400 and it was recorded

01:25:19.140 that Swindon held

01:25:19.720 a weekly cattle market

01:25:20.580 every Monday.

01:25:21.600 Even though quarriers

01:25:22.280 and stone workers

01:25:22.940 were the most common

01:25:23.560 occupation by 1701,

01:25:25.040 Swindon continued

01:25:25.520 to rely on markets.

01:25:26.660 The first independent shop,

01:25:27.800 a grocer,

01:25:28.340 was set up on Swindon's

01:25:29.140 High Street in 1705

01:25:30.260 by Robert and Margaret Boxwell.

01:25:32.700 It's been downhill

01:25:33.700 ever since as well.

01:25:35.760 I like this guy

01:25:36.480 doing these little things.

01:25:37.020 Yeah, I love it.

01:25:39.340 He's close to us here.

01:25:41.180 Oh, is he?

01:25:41.460 I bought a Cruffin from him.

01:25:44.800 That was absolutely amazing.

01:25:46.200 You bought a what from him?

01:25:47.140 A Cruffin.

01:25:48.320 A croissant and a muffin.

01:25:50.120 Oh.

01:25:50.820 I've never heard of such a thing.

01:25:52.240 Was it nice?

01:25:52.900 Was it good?

01:25:53.220 Yeah, yeah, very good.

01:25:53.960 Does he run a shop, does he?

01:25:55.200 Yeah.

01:25:55.620 What shop?

01:25:56.160 It's every Thursday

01:25:57.560 in the market.

01:25:58.920 Oh, right, okay.

01:25:59.780 Oh, right, okay.

01:26:00.420 I want a Cruffin.

01:26:01.260 I want to try a Cruffin.

01:26:02.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:03.000 I don't know.

01:26:03.660 Thursday.

01:26:04.440 Can I get a chocolate chip Cruffin?

01:26:06.040 I think there are ones.

01:26:07.660 I'll break my diet for a Cruffin.

01:26:10.700 That's because of the record.

01:26:13.900 So Lord Nerevar says,

01:26:15.500 the reason they're trying to cancel Farage

01:26:16.600 is because he's right.

01:26:17.400 He makes a hell of a lot of sense

01:26:18.720 to the average person.

01:26:19.940 It's damage control,

01:26:21.140 which is why they're wheeling out

01:26:22.040 Big Boris to fire shots at him.

01:26:24.000 What they don't understand

01:26:24.780 is that Boris is widely known

01:26:25.840 to have been a traitor

01:26:26.440 by the general public.

01:26:27.220 They cannot continue

01:26:28.300 and continue not to be able

01:26:30.840 to stop what's coming.

01:26:32.840 I think there are a lot of people

01:26:33.860 who do still like Boris, though,

01:26:35.500 on a personal level.

01:26:36.560 So that is...

01:26:37.320 But again,

01:26:38.340 none of the shots

01:26:39.620 are hitting home, are they?

01:26:41.660 No, yeah.

01:26:42.380 I must say,

01:26:42.960 just again,

01:26:43.920 a slight personal anecdote.

01:26:45.380 When I was involved

01:26:46.440 in the reform thing,

01:26:47.900 a fair chunk

01:26:48.800 of the ground roots

01:26:49.920 reform people

01:26:51.020 still love Boris.

01:26:52.280 Yeah.

01:26:52.960 And I would say,

01:26:53.700 didn't he put you

01:26:54.700 under house arrest

01:26:55.280 for a couple of years?

01:26:56.040 And they would just be...

01:26:57.720 They would just sort of...

01:26:58.320 Didn't he betray

01:26:58.900 the electorate on borders?

01:27:00.460 They would just go

01:27:01.160 into some sort of

01:27:01.700 cognitive dissonance thing

01:27:02.640 and be like,

01:27:02.980 no, no, no,

01:27:03.600 he's a great vote winner.

01:27:05.660 Yeah, from the Hindu community.

01:27:07.540 Yeah.

01:27:08.240 Yeah, no, the spies Boris.

01:27:09.480 General Haiping says,

01:27:10.520 Ukraine this, Ukraine that.

01:27:11.640 How many more decades

01:27:12.340 have to pass

01:27:12.840 before the CIA

01:27:13.840 admit they bombed

01:27:14.760 the Nord Stream pipeline

01:27:15.700 live on The View?

01:27:17.620 Now, Putin decided,

01:27:18.720 you know,

01:27:18.960 I've got a little knob

01:27:20.240 where I can turn on

01:27:21.020 or off the gas

01:27:21.960 to Germany.

01:27:23.060 What I think I'll do

01:27:23.760 is I'll blow up

01:27:24.380 the pipeline instead.

01:27:26.040 For some reason.

01:27:27.760 So obvious,

01:27:28.360 obvious nonsense.

01:27:29.700 It's one of those things

01:27:30.320 that crossed my mind

01:27:31.140 just the other day.

01:27:32.160 Nothing provocative about it.

01:27:33.640 There's a few things

01:27:34.500 that you're just not

01:27:35.600 really encouraged

01:27:36.880 to talk or think about,

01:27:38.240 like the JFK assassination,

01:27:40.460 like what really happened

01:27:41.700 on 9-11,

01:27:42.860 and the Nord Stream pipeline.

01:27:44.260 right in the mainland.

01:27:45.460 And the Nord Stream pipeline

01:27:47.540 is one of those things,

01:27:48.640 isn't it?

01:27:49.320 Yeah.

01:27:49.540 I remember when I interviewed

01:27:50.520 that AFD guy,

01:27:51.560 Peter Boringer,

01:27:52.360 he didn't want,

01:27:53.960 he was most visibly scared

01:27:55.660 to talk about it.

01:27:56.820 Didn't want to.

01:27:57.180 It was probably a bigger

01:27:57.860 demon jam.

01:27:58.360 Oh yeah,

01:27:58.800 yeah, sure.

01:27:59.660 It's just one of those,

01:28:00.480 it's just throw it on the pile

01:28:01.600 of those things

01:28:02.360 that just ignore.

01:28:03.900 Don't look at it too deeply.

01:28:05.660 Don't investigate it.

01:28:06.740 Don't drill down into it.

01:28:08.060 But it's obvious why.

01:28:11.440 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:11.700 I mean,

01:28:12.000 the Nord Stream pipeline

01:28:12.740 is the most transparent

01:28:13.680 thing in the world.

01:28:14.680 Biden was like,

01:28:15.260 oh, don't worry,

01:28:15.660 we can do something about this.

01:28:17.240 Suddenly it blows up

01:28:18.240 and the Polish embassy

01:28:19.260 tweets out,

01:28:19.840 thanks America.

01:28:21.420 And Peter's just like,

01:28:23.240 no, I blew up my own pipeline.

01:28:24.240 No, of course he didn't.

01:28:25.220 There's only a couple of countries

01:28:26.020 in the whole world

01:28:26.600 with any sort of submarine program

01:28:28.120 that could have a dream

01:28:28.880 of doing something like that anyway.

01:28:30.420 It's so obvious.

01:28:31.420 But why would he,

01:28:31.920 it's so obvious.

01:28:32.440 If he didn't want to make money

01:28:33.400 off his own pipeline,

01:28:34.220 he could just turn off the gas supply

01:28:35.360 because he's the one

01:28:35.900 supplying the gas.

01:28:36.620 General Haiping says,

01:28:38.680 every time a Russian warship

01:28:39.740 comes anywhere near Western waters,

01:28:41.300 oh my God,

01:28:41.740 they do not understand boundaries.

01:28:43.380 The West building

01:28:44.040 right up to Russia's borders

01:28:44.980 and boycotting on their train,

01:28:46.100 this is fine.

01:28:47.740 Yeah, it's insufferable.

01:28:49.380 Sorry, we'll do a couple

01:28:50.400 of the other ones.

01:28:51.800 Bleach Demon says,

01:28:52.780 it's baffling to see

01:28:53.460 the collective hubris

01:28:54.380 of the Tories.

01:28:55.540 Not even Saddam painted

01:28:56.780 the Iraqis as this goldfish brain

01:28:59.000 when he had guaranteed elections.

01:29:00.920 Yeah, I know.

01:29:01.600 It's just really insufferable

01:29:04.900 and Richard points out here,

01:29:07.540 the balls and the conservatives

01:29:08.820 with their retarded adverts

01:29:10.180 and their whataboutisms

01:29:11.460 with regards to labor.

01:29:12.920 They have literally sent out

01:29:13.820 invitations with RSVPs

01:29:15.240 to the most undesirable areas

01:29:16.400 of the world saying,

01:29:17.220 send us your dregs,

01:29:18.000 filth and criminals.

01:29:19.120 As my father is known to say,

01:29:20.360 you can't polish your turd.

01:29:21.840 Omar says,

01:29:22.620 I'll never get over

01:29:23.300 the industrial level gaslighting

01:29:25.260 they used to convince us

01:29:26.700 two years of house arrest

01:29:27.800 was a reasonable escalation

01:29:29.140 from we need two weeks

01:29:30.560 to let the NHS prepare.

01:29:31.720 The second they assumed

01:29:33.360 the authorities control our safety,

01:29:34.860 the temporary measures

01:29:35.500 started looking really permanent.

01:29:38.420 Yeah, it's mental, isn't it?

01:29:40.280 It's absolutely mental.

01:29:42.040 It's obviously an exercise

01:29:42.940 in social control

01:29:43.880 and a transfer of wealth.

01:29:45.640 Nothing to do with public health.

01:29:47.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:48.020 Threadnought sends a $5 soup chat

01:29:49.300 and says,

01:29:49.960 you know what my solution is?

01:29:51.020 Act of war,

01:29:51.640 deport them all back

01:29:52.260 to where they came from,

01:29:53.260 brackets France,

01:29:54.320 and declare war on France.

01:29:55.400 Need to teach the French

01:29:56.220 to relearn old lessons.

01:29:58.500 I mean,

01:29:59.580 just send them back to France.

01:30:00.500 And didn't one of the reform guys

01:30:02.220 say, well look,

01:30:02.620 we just dump them back there?

01:30:04.340 Yeah.

01:30:04.620 And if the French kick off about it,

01:30:05.860 then we'll see what it is.

01:30:06.640 Ben Habib said that, I believe.

01:30:07.500 It was Ben Habib.

01:30:08.160 It was a beast.

01:30:08.980 Well, Nigel said the other day,

01:30:10.680 actually,

01:30:11.520 there's a few things,

01:30:12.160 maybe I'm just being paranoid,

01:30:13.460 there's a few things

01:30:14.180 I will say either on here

01:30:15.520 or tweet,

01:30:16.380 and a couple of days later,

01:30:17.680 the exact words

01:30:18.740 are being used

01:30:19.460 by reform.

01:30:20.740 Good.

01:30:21.120 Well, I started talking

01:30:22.580 about sectarianism

01:30:23.760 and literally a couple of days later

01:30:25.100 I started talking about it.

01:30:26.320 Anyway,

01:30:27.020 not that I'm the first person.

01:30:28.020 This is what memes are for.

01:30:28.600 Not that I'm the very first person

01:30:29.740 to say it,

01:30:30.080 but I tweeted about how

01:30:31.360 if it was up to me,

01:30:32.060 I would bring our aircraft carrier,

01:30:34.180 HMS Prince of Wales,

01:30:35.560 into the channel

01:30:36.180 and use 4-2 Commando

01:30:37.480 to send the boats back.

01:30:39.880 Yeah.

01:30:40.260 And a couple of days later,

01:30:41.420 Nige said,

01:30:42.900 well, just use the Royal Marines.

01:30:44.480 Good idea.

01:30:45.200 He doesn't follow me,

01:30:46.660 but,

01:30:47.180 and I'm not the first to say it,

01:30:48.040 of course,

01:30:48.360 I'm not claiming that,

01:30:49.100 but nonetheless,

01:30:50.440 yeah,

01:30:50.820 use the Royal Navy

01:30:51.800 and the Marines.

01:30:53.200 Isn't that why we have it?

01:30:53.740 Stop them.

01:30:54.300 Just do that.

01:30:55.160 Yeah.

01:30:55.620 God.

01:30:56.400 Meade says,

01:30:57.120 I would love to see

01:30:57.540 to selling flags

01:30:58.600 in the merch store.

01:30:59.220 St. George's Cross,

01:30:59.940 Richard Lionheart's Royal Crest

01:31:01.120 on the flag with the lions.

01:31:02.400 Just a few ideas.

01:31:03.240 Well,

01:31:03.440 we will take it

01:31:04.100 under consideration.

01:31:06.920 Henry says,

01:31:07.740 the England flag thing

01:31:08.760 that really annoys me

01:31:09.460 is the nonsense

01:31:09.920 about the mini roundabouts.

01:31:11.480 People are spraying

01:31:12.160 St. George's Cross

01:31:12.900 onto the white mini roundabouts

01:31:13.980 and the Guardian types

01:31:14.760 are going nuts about it.

01:31:15.980 Yeah,

01:31:16.060 but that's a good thing.

01:31:17.720 And yet,

01:31:18.160 the pride crossings

01:31:18.980 that confuse everyone,

01:31:20.160 totally fine.

01:31:22.100 Londoners just re-elected Khan,

01:31:23.740 says Grant.

01:31:24.540 They can have him.

01:31:25.420 If I were a cabbie,

01:31:26.120 I would fly a Pakistani flag

01:31:28.780 in protest.

01:31:29.700 You might find yourself

01:31:30.580 finding interest

01:31:33.380 from people

01:31:33.800 you don't otherwise

01:31:34.380 want to associate with.

01:31:35.500 Yeah,

01:31:35.800 also the Indian nationalist

01:31:37.660 Hindu types

01:31:38.460 are not going to be

01:31:39.160 best pleased with that,

01:31:40.140 are they?

01:31:40.360 Yeah,

01:31:40.560 suddenly you've inserted

01:31:41.260 yourself into a sectarian

01:31:42.400 conflict,

01:31:42.880 just without realising it.

01:31:45.180 Sectarianism.

01:31:45.780 Yeah.

01:31:46.120 It's here to stay.

01:31:47.180 Brilliant.

01:31:47.960 On that note,

01:31:48.980 we will have to go

01:31:50.180 because we're out of time,

01:31:51.000 but thank you all for watching

01:31:52.080 and we will see you tomorrow.

01:31:54.260 Have a great day.

01:31:54.840 Have a great day.

01:31:55.080 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 24, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #943

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