This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #568

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00:00:30.000 Today's guest is a comedian, an actor, a writer, and a director

00:00:34.960 known for some of the funniest shows that anyone has ever seen.

00:00:40.120 He's going into his fourth season and final season of Righteous Gemstones,

00:00:45.000 which just kicked off on HBO.

00:00:47.300 Vice Principals, East, Bound, and Down.

00:00:51.320 He's a legend, and he's one of the most requested human beings ever

00:00:55.800 to be a guest on this show.

00:00:57.420 I'm grateful to spend time with Mr. Danny McBride.

00:01:09.380 Have you already filmed a few of these today?

00:01:19.740 Or is this just, am I the only lucky guy today?

00:01:21.700 Only guy.

00:01:22.540 Look at us.

00:01:23.520 This is amazing.

00:01:24.820 So thank you for your time.

00:01:26.000 Yeah, I'm kidding.

00:01:26.660 We good?

00:01:28.100 Sick.

00:01:28.480 Is this going to have where all of our lines are?

00:01:30.260 What we have to say in the interview?

00:01:31.300 That'll be up there?

00:01:31.940 Yeah.

00:01:32.440 Perfect.

00:01:33.640 That's actually not a bad idea.

00:01:35.520 If the whole interview were scripted, man, that'd be freaking pretty amazing, man.

00:01:39.960 Good to see you today.

00:01:41.180 No, I got this.

00:01:41.980 There's a place called Matcha Luther King that I went to, and I was like, this is, it just

00:01:47.620 like, is that a, like, are we at that level where you're taking a guy like that and turning

00:01:52.440 it into like a pun?

00:01:53.600 Yeah.

00:01:54.580 Matcha Luther King.

00:01:55.500 Yeah, it was cool, but it was just like, you know.

00:01:57.240 They have the I have a cream drink.

00:01:59.480 It's just like a cream coffee.

00:02:00.780 I'll have a medium.

00:02:05.960 That's crazy, dude.

00:02:08.100 Good to see you today, Danny McBride.

00:02:09.440 Thanks for hanging out.

00:02:10.460 We're on.

00:02:10.960 This is happening.

00:02:11.580 We're doing it, huh?

00:02:12.220 Yeah.

00:02:12.400 Is it okay?

00:02:13.160 Perfect.

00:02:13.660 I was waiting for this.

00:02:14.840 Yeah.

00:02:15.180 Yeah.

00:02:15.420 I just definitely just having one of those days where it's like my skin feels all dry

00:02:18.840 and stuff.

00:02:19.500 I wonder why that is.

00:02:20.760 I don't know.

00:02:21.600 I don't know how hydration became like the hot thing in the past 10 years.

00:02:26.940 Is that it?

00:02:27.360 People only started drinking water and hydrating the last 10 years, you think?

00:02:30.960 It's more prevalent.

00:02:32.140 People like stay hydrated and stuff.

00:02:34.060 I just think it feels more.

00:02:35.700 It's more popular for sure.

00:02:38.580 You're in Burbank, though.

00:02:39.520 This dry climate out here dries you out.

00:02:42.420 Yeah, it might be true.

00:02:43.620 It's not like Charleston, South Carolina.

00:02:45.100 It's always balmy.

00:02:46.200 Yeah.

00:02:46.660 Sweaty.

00:02:47.260 Oh, yeah.

00:02:47.760 Wet.

00:02:48.520 Oh, dude, I went to CFC for a semester.

00:02:50.840 Did you really?

00:02:51.380 Yeah.

00:02:51.720 The College of Knowledge.

00:02:52.620 Yeah, but I used to live on King Street over there right across.

00:02:55.020 They had a Bay Bay store over there.

00:02:56.900 It was like women's fine clothing or something.

00:02:59.320 Unfortunately, I don't think it's still there.

00:03:01.480 Or body textiles or something.

00:03:03.140 They had a place called Silver Dollar.

00:03:05.100 Yeah.

00:03:05.560 Bar that we used to go to.

00:03:07.140 I've been to that place before.

00:03:08.560 Have you?

00:03:09.020 Yep.

00:03:09.560 Yeah, boy.

00:03:10.480 Charleston's a pretty fun spot.

00:03:11.760 God, it's great.

00:03:12.500 Except I took a girl on a tour, one of the – I mean, it's one of the – I think it's

00:03:17.420 one of the five most unique cities in America, I think.

00:03:20.280 And I took a girl on like a carriage tour or whatever, and it was a black girl that I

00:03:26.040 was dating at the time.

00:03:26.820 And a lot of it's kind of – it gets a little – you know, some of the history around

00:03:30.480 there is –

00:03:30.880 Oh, yeah.

00:03:31.300 They got some history around there.

00:03:32.280 Some risque history.

00:03:33.600 So like in a certain point, I'm just – I'm like trying to tip the driver early.

00:03:37.420 Like, dude, just –

00:03:38.520 Yeah.

00:03:38.620 Like –

00:03:38.920 Can we change this to a ghost tour maybe?

00:03:41.360 Yeah.

00:03:42.280 Yeah.

00:03:43.700 So – but, dude, it's so fun there.

00:03:46.120 And you go out to like the beach and stuff there.

00:03:47.840 Do you guys spend time on the beach or what is your life like there?

00:03:49.660 We do.

00:03:49.700 Yeah.

00:03:49.820 I live by the beach.

00:03:50.600 And then – yeah, we're on the water all the time there.

00:03:53.060 That's like the beauty of that city.

00:03:54.240 You got all that water.

00:03:55.260 You got all those good restaurants.

00:03:56.520 The people are nice.

00:03:57.360 It's – yeah, it's a pretty sweet spot.

00:03:59.900 Yeah.

00:04:00.180 And it's good.

00:04:01.060 And you can kind of learn to surf there.

00:04:02.720 People don't realize that.

00:04:04.000 You can kind of learn to like baby surf there.

00:04:06.060 Yeah.

00:04:06.140 There's just enough little wave action.

00:04:07.820 Just the perfect little waves.

00:04:09.360 Yeah.

00:04:09.640 Do you ever get out there on them?

00:04:10.880 I think I'm too top heavy to surf.

00:04:12.820 I'm more of a body boarder.

00:04:15.560 Yeah.

00:04:17.500 You ever seen big heavy dudes try to surf?

00:04:19.880 It's really – it's hilarious.

00:04:21.720 It's like Mr. Potato Head body out there.

00:04:23.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:23.920 Trying to surf.

00:04:25.120 The aerodynamics are off.

00:04:26.820 Yep.

00:04:27.980 Yeah, why don't they have – who's coming out with the big boy board?

00:04:32.580 You know?

00:04:33.460 Big and tall needs a surf board, I feel like.

00:04:35.820 Yeah, so you have to just go all in on the boogie boarding.

00:04:37.800 Like, no, I'm good at this.

00:04:38.960 This is what I'm all about.

00:04:40.100 I could stand up on this thing, but I choose not to.

00:04:44.020 Dude, but is there anything a little bit dicier than being an adult boogie boarder?

00:04:49.140 Like, at a certain point.

00:04:52.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:52.960 It's true.

00:04:53.700 You're not going to pick up any new fans doing it.

00:04:55.760 Your wife – the wives are always just standing in the distance, like, just waiting for –

00:04:59.640 Shaking heads.

00:05:00.220 Yeah.

00:05:00.440 Like, I'm in it for the children.

00:05:01.880 You know, I brought you a present today.

00:05:03.660 Did you really?

00:05:04.380 Yeah.

00:05:04.660 I always like to share new products that I find useful in my life, and this is a dick laser.

00:05:11.520 Oh, damn.

00:05:12.520 What it is is it's like a laser pointer that is a dick that projects dicks.

00:05:19.280 Oh, really?

00:05:20.300 Yeah.

00:05:20.620 So if anyone's running their mouth too much in here, look at your shoe.

00:05:24.780 Look what I put on your shoe right there.

00:05:26.040 Whoa, that's cool.

00:05:28.780 That's pure cock, huh?

00:05:30.320 It's pure cock.

00:05:31.240 There's some variable settings on there, too, I think, where you can kind of change what nasty stuff you put.

00:05:37.680 That's the PG end right there.

00:05:39.860 That's just your light.

00:05:40.600 The other end is where you get the dick right there.

00:05:43.280 Oh.

00:05:43.680 So this is where you find a suspect like that.

00:05:47.620 Yeah, and then the other one's where you embarrass him.

00:05:50.020 Wow, dude.

00:05:50.700 Thank you, bro.

00:05:51.280 Yeah, you're welcome.

00:05:52.120 I think you could use that.

00:05:53.040 Anytime anyone's talking too much in here, you just throw one of those across their forehead, and it'll shut them up fast.

00:05:57.940 Yeah.

00:05:58.620 Or if you see an old guy, you put a limping on him just to fucking.

00:06:01.860 I make my cats chase it around the house.

00:06:03.940 It's pretty useful.

00:06:04.820 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:06:05.720 There's nothing cooler than that seeing some cats chasing a little cock around.

00:06:09.740 Those are the good old days, you know?

00:06:12.300 Bro, thank you.

00:06:12.960 This is so nice, man.

00:06:14.260 We've had two really neat gifts, and this is definitely one of them.

00:06:17.220 Cherish it forever.

00:06:18.120 Very, very sweet of you.

00:06:20.660 Was your neighborhood cool growing up, or was it like in a city?

00:06:23.340 I know you grew up in Georgia.

00:06:24.240 I know that.

00:06:25.180 I was born in Georgia, but.

00:06:26.740 Oh, you did it in Virginia.

00:06:27.540 Sorry.

00:06:27.880 Yeah, Virginia.

00:06:29.060 I was born in Georgia, and then we actually spent a few years after that.

00:06:32.560 My dad was a guard in the prison at Lompoc in Lompoc, California, so I lived for a few years on the prison reservation right outside of the prison

00:06:41.500 where, like, all the people lived whose parents worked in the prison.

00:06:44.880 What?

00:06:45.320 All the, like, prison family?

00:06:46.600 Like, you were there with those children?

00:06:48.440 All types of, I bet it's pretty diverse over there, was it?

00:06:50.960 It was.

00:06:51.660 Pretty tough crowd.

00:06:52.460 Yeah, it was crazy.

00:06:55.460 What?

00:06:55.520 And I lived there, and then my dad got transferred to the Federal Bureau of Prisons in D.C., and so that's when we moved to Virginia.

00:07:01.420 Is it scary being this child of somebody that works at a prison?

00:07:04.360 Like, what's that kind of energy like?

00:07:05.660 You know what?

00:07:06.060 I didn't really kind of get it until, like, I mean, this was, like, I'm talking, like, real little.

00:07:10.200 Like, I moved out of there, and we were, like, in kindergarten.

00:07:12.120 Oh, yeah.

00:07:12.600 Pre-cubescent.

00:07:12.740 I can remember, though, one night, the alarm was going off, and, like, my dad came in and, like, rounded me and my sister up, and we had to go into their bedroom and shut the door, and I, like, looked out the window, and it was just my dad with the shotgun going outside, jumping in the back of a pickup truck with all my friends' dads.

00:07:28.240 There was, like, a prison break, and they were going to go chase the dudes down.

00:07:31.380 It was like, ooh, this is some real shit right here.

00:07:34.000 Yeah.

00:07:35.320 Yeah, bro.

00:07:36.180 God, that's cool.

00:07:37.880 Yeah, because I wonder if you did, like, if you're dead.

00:07:40.400 I guess he doesn't bring work home, because that would be like having an inmate come over for dinner or whatever.

00:07:44.940 I think if he brings work home, there's a big problem.

00:07:47.160 Yeah.

00:07:48.780 I, um, we grew up by this, it was, like, a prosthetic kind of, not factory, I guess.

00:07:54.980 I think it was hoping that, like, after the war, like, prostheticking would scale up or whatever.

00:07:59.600 But, so, but it never really did, but they had a lot of, um, they give us, like, the use, like, the fucking, you can get them out back.

00:08:06.740 Sometimes they used ones, the ones that didn't.

00:08:08.280 Used prosthetics, ones that people didn't want?

00:08:10.460 Yeah, returns, or ones that were, um, they did, they didn't, uh, it's not, like, veneers, but they just didn't do the edging right on it or something, or the hand was too small for the guy who ordered.

00:08:20.760 The pinky was too sharp.

00:08:21.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:22.840 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah.

00:08:24.300 I can't even hug my wife with this, yeah.

00:08:26.760 But we would, yeah, you'd have people, like, or it would be two middle fingers, some, you know, guar fan would get, like, one with two middle fingers on it.

00:08:33.660 But, um, but that was something that was always funny around us, because you'd see, like, people would chase each other with different little appendages.

00:08:40.940 You'd see fucking somebody, you know, not hit their wife, but throw a hand at her, you know, or something.

00:08:45.180 It was cool that you knew where to find those, those rejects.

00:08:47.360 That's good.

00:08:47.880 It was fun.

00:08:48.400 It just made things fun.

00:08:49.480 Or you'd see, like, somebody try to break into a car, but not using their own fingerprints, like, try to.

00:08:53.620 It's brilliant.

00:08:54.180 Yeah, just type shit like that.

00:08:55.220 Commit crimes.

00:08:55.940 I like it.

00:08:56.840 Yeah, it's just, it was a different time.

00:08:58.500 But, um, but yeah, I miss that a lot.

00:09:01.860 I bet you, you have influence.

00:09:03.260 You could probably get fake hands with two middle fingers still if you wanted to, I bet.

00:09:06.760 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:09:07.540 I bet somebody could send them your way.

00:09:09.680 They need that, though, dude.

00:09:11.440 Especially with just how the things are going these days.

00:09:13.620 It's like, I think you almost want two middles.

00:09:16.160 Yeah, I feel like with the state of the world, we all definitely need more middle fingers.

00:09:20.760 Yeah.

00:09:20.980 Yeah.

00:09:21.220 We don't have enough.

00:09:21.920 Do you, um, I know since you live over there in Charleston, do you stay out of, like, I know that you don't have social media and stuff like that.

00:09:28.140 You just keep all that stuff out of your life?

00:09:30.080 I really do, yeah.

00:09:31.260 Like, uh, when we shot Vice Principals, Walton Goggins and, like, Busy Phillips, they were on there.

00:09:36.720 And they were all, they were involved with social media.

00:09:39.000 And they were kind of telling me, you got to get in there.

00:09:40.620 It's awesome.

00:09:41.160 And so I, like, had an Instagram account for, like, a matter of a few months and was like, fuck this.

00:09:46.800 Yeah.

00:09:47.160 I felt like it was a gateway for just crazy people to be able to reach out and touch.

00:09:50.980 So I, uh, yeah, it just wasn't that, I don't know, it wasn't, it wasn't my deal.

00:09:54.660 Some people I know are amazing at that stuff.

00:09:57.040 But, uh, yeah, it just didn't feel like a natural fit for me.

00:10:01.020 Yeah.

00:10:01.420 And so, but that's, it's just good that you, like, recognize that.

00:10:04.560 Yeah, it's kind of addicting and it makes you feel bad, I think, sometimes.

00:10:08.000 Some things are nice to see because it feels inspirational.

00:10:10.020 But then sometimes you're just like, it's, yeah, you're keeping up with this kind of weird void, it feels like.

00:10:14.500 I liked it.

00:10:15.120 I liked it purely.

00:10:16.100 The only thing I miss about it is I like seeing bum fights.

00:10:18.440 I like seeing, uh, all the schoolyard fights.

00:10:21.440 Uh, that was, I like seeing fights.

00:10:23.740 That's what I like to see on there.

00:10:25.440 Oh yeah.

00:10:26.080 They have everything.

00:10:26.780 They even have gauze on there now.

00:10:28.060 So it's fucking, it's upscaled.

00:10:29.860 It's upscaled a lot.

00:10:31.200 Um, do you miss like, like being, when I, when I was a kid, like things were dumb.

00:10:36.200 Like shit was just, you could be funny all day.

00:10:38.160 Who didn't give a shit.

00:10:39.440 Like somebody had noodles or something.

00:10:41.620 When you got home, like there was just, shit was possible.

00:10:43.300 Right.

00:10:44.040 Somebody had noodles when you got home.

00:10:45.660 Or it was just like, everything was going to kind of be okay.

00:10:49.080 Do you miss like, um, but I noticed as I get older, I just, my brain doesn't even come up with like some of the ideas and stuff that I had when I was a kid.

00:10:56.180 And like, like, do you notice any of that for yourself?

00:10:59.700 Like that you felt like your humor was different than, or that humor changes as you get, as you get older.

00:11:05.020 I just feel like, I feel like if you're creative, being bored is good sometimes.

00:11:09.620 Right.

00:11:10.040 And I feel like sometimes with these phones, with all this information all the time, your brain is just constantly occupied by other people's noise.

00:11:17.580 And so I felt like when I kind of turned that stuff off, I just felt like there was all of this noise that just went away.

00:11:24.140 And then all my stupid ideas could flourish.

00:11:26.920 I could make jokes about noodles.

00:11:28.580 Anything was possible.

00:11:30.620 Yeah.

00:11:31.060 That's a good call, man.

00:11:32.320 Yeah.

00:11:32.480 It's like, yeah.

00:11:33.340 Cause maybe sometimes I think I miss, that is what I miss.

00:11:35.660 I almost miss feeling.

00:11:37.300 I know this sounds weird.

00:11:38.460 I almost miss feeling dumb a little bit.

00:11:40.600 Yeah.

00:11:40.920 Not knowing about everything that's going on in the world.

00:11:43.140 Yeah.

00:11:44.220 And not wearing all these things on my face that aren't even of my own life kind of in a way, you know?

00:11:50.680 And I had this weird thought about the other day, like, say it's like you're a parent.

00:11:53.940 And you're always seeing, like, these cute things that kids do on TikToks and different things.

00:11:58.000 I wonder if it affects the way a little bit.

00:12:01.020 Like, if your kid isn't as boisterous or isn't, like, does it, like, I don't know.

00:12:06.020 Like, just, I don't know.

00:12:06.780 I thought about, like, it takes almost all of our, like, some of our good, like, our good reactions or the things that are kind of supposed to be reserved for kind of real people in our lives.

00:12:17.620 Does it start to, like, take those reactions to those people?

00:12:22.680 Does it make any sense to me?

00:12:23.520 Yeah, no, it totally does.

00:12:24.360 I feel that you'll see people on there that are going on these beautiful vacations.

00:12:27.880 You're like, damn, how do they know about, how do they know to go to these places?

00:12:31.880 I don't know this.

00:12:32.580 Like, you start comparing all these things in your world to what you see there.

00:12:35.820 I mean, I'm not someone who's, like, I'm not against it all.

00:12:38.480 I think that there's also awesome stuff with just anyone being able to have a voice and anyone being able to reach people that have what's in common.

00:12:47.200 But, yeah, I think for me, I just kind of, I saw that it probably wasn't going to be the best thing for me.

00:12:52.440 So I just didn't participate.

00:12:54.220 Fuck, that's bravey, though.

00:12:55.840 You're almost like, damn, Christopher Columbus.

00:12:57.880 I feel like you just don't see a lot of it.

00:12:59.900 It's cool, man.

00:13:00.620 I'm waiting for it to go extinct, and I don't think it ever will.

00:13:03.020 So now I'm just, I'm like the Amish, man.

00:13:06.420 I'm just pretending like none of these advancements are there, dude.

00:13:09.060 I'm just in my house making rocking chairs and selling, you know, taffy.

00:13:13.600 Is that what you do?

00:13:14.520 Is that where you spend your time?

00:13:15.560 Do you have some good hobbies, actually?

00:13:17.100 You know, I need to get some hobbies.

00:13:18.580 I don't have good hobbies.

00:13:19.760 I think my hobbies were always, like, making stuff.

00:13:22.880 Like, when I was a kid, I'd make movies or write stuff.

00:13:25.240 And then once that became my job, then people are like, what are you into?

00:13:28.360 It's like, I guess just my job is what I'm into.

00:13:31.080 But that's what's beautiful about Charleston.

00:13:33.440 You can get on that water.

00:13:34.600 You can get outside.

00:13:35.640 And so that stuff is great.

00:13:37.000 Yeah.

00:13:37.860 Yeah, dude.

00:13:38.460 I had a roommate over there.

00:13:39.920 We would drink so much gin and tonics and just wet the bed all the time over there.

00:13:44.020 A lot of bedwetters in Charleston.

00:13:46.120 Beautiful.

00:13:47.020 People were like, I'm on the sailing team.

00:13:48.780 I was like, sure you are, brother.

00:13:50.820 You better fucking put a catamaran between you and your wife, dude.

00:13:54.380 Oh, you know who I saw yesterday speaking on social media?

00:13:59.000 The Rizzler.

00:13:59.640 You ever seen this kid?

00:14:00.480 Oh, I've seen the Rizzler, yeah.

00:14:01.600 Dude, I met him in person.

00:14:03.440 Yes.

00:14:04.820 I'm having dinner, right?

00:14:06.080 I was having dinner.

00:14:07.160 I look over.

00:14:08.940 And it's a kid.

00:14:10.380 And you don't want to look for too long because it's like, it's just not something you do.

00:14:14.080 And look at him.

00:14:14.580 Look at him, dude.

00:14:15.340 Oh, and you've got a pic with him, too.

00:14:16.680 I love it, man.

00:14:17.280 Bro, I was so excited.

00:14:18.720 But it's kind of weird because you don't want to be like, I'm talking to a kid or whatever.

00:14:23.420 And then, but definitely, dude, I'll say this.

00:14:26.020 Wait, where were you guys at?

00:14:27.020 Is that Craig's?

00:14:28.060 I went to Craig's dinner.

00:14:28.880 The Rizzler's just hanging out at Craig's.

00:14:30.400 Oh, it blew my mind.

00:14:32.100 There was like some guy in there who had overdosed on age or something.

00:14:36.340 Like some super old guy who's like, I'm a producer, you know?

00:14:39.800 He's like, I produced the Mayflower or whatever.

00:14:42.480 I was like, that was a fucking boat.

00:14:43.840 That was a boat in the 1800s.

00:14:44.940 But yeah, anyway, this was like, this is the coolest thing that ever happened.

00:14:49.120 So I was so excited.

00:14:50.280 And not to snitch on him or whatever.

00:14:51.660 First of all, he had two Pepsis or whatever past 8 p.m., which I think he is.

00:14:55.220 Yeah, that's late.

00:14:56.580 He's going to, the bedtime stories won't work anymore.

00:14:59.060 He'll be up all night.

00:15:00.440 Yep.

00:15:01.040 Yeah, that's a little late.

00:15:02.160 And some people say his grades have been suffering.

00:15:05.600 And I'm like, well.

00:15:07.140 I think he's evolved past grades, right?

00:15:09.060 He's never going to have to learn anything.

00:15:10.500 He's just going to be able to do whatever he wants in this world, I think.

00:15:12.920 Yeah.

00:15:13.520 Yeah, that's true.

00:15:14.980 My son watches all this stuff, so he keeps me up to date on who's who.

00:15:20.440 The Rizzler, you know, he shows me the ways.

00:15:23.240 Oh, that's cool.

00:15:23.920 Yeah.

00:15:24.340 Yeah, it was definitely nice.

00:15:25.480 I mean, it was just neat to see him.

00:15:27.000 It was interesting to be impressed by a child.

00:15:29.260 But he's kind of like the Macaulay Culkin of their generation, it seems like.

00:15:33.400 Mm-hmm.

00:15:33.900 You know?

00:15:34.640 Mm-hmm.

00:15:34.940 I mean, maybe that's a reach.

00:15:36.140 That's it.

00:15:36.200 But yeah, he was fucking eating at Craig's with some, it just like, it was very bizarre.

00:15:41.620 And I asked him a question and he just started doing his arms like that.

00:15:44.580 Did he do his little move to you?

00:15:46.080 Did he give it to you or no?

00:15:46.960 Oh, I don't think I got it.

00:15:48.600 I think he, I mean, I'm an adult and I shouldn't have really been talking to him, so I think

00:15:52.300 I was a little.

00:15:53.140 And the weird thing is you see all these adults looking at him, it's just got to be so weird

00:15:56.600 to be him.

00:15:57.380 It does.

00:15:58.180 It's like he's this generation's Shirley Temple.

00:16:00.420 Yeah, he really is.

00:16:02.680 Yeah, he's an Italian Shirley Temple.

00:16:05.040 But he definitely looks like his, yeah, I just heard his grades have been suffering.

00:16:08.420 And I even was like the dad, I was like, somebody said he's had issues in social studies.

00:16:11.820 And he looked at his dad like, you've been telling me.

00:16:14.320 Yeah, why are you talking about my grades?

00:16:16.660 That was kind of interesting.

00:16:19.120 My friend and I made a movie, David Spade and I wrote a movie.

00:16:21.980 Thank you for inspiring people to like, just kind of create stuff on their own.

00:16:25.220 Oh, that's great.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, I have some buddies who I think.

00:16:27.980 Steve Little was in it.

00:16:28.560 Yes, yes, that's great.

00:16:30.000 Did you guys have fun with him?

00:16:31.600 Oh, he was the best.

00:16:34.400 Maybe him and Chris Elliott were like the best people that came in.

00:16:37.440 Man, that's great.

00:16:38.100 Yeah, Steve Little is such a, he's such a good dude.

00:16:40.700 He's so incredibly funny.

00:16:42.340 He's so sweet, too.

00:16:42.600 Yeah, sweet and kind.

00:16:43.940 I love him.

00:16:44.420 He's like a, just like a teddy bear that's been like, not in a halfway house, but definitely

00:16:48.260 like, like boot camp, like could have been a wrestler type of energy.

00:16:52.000 Yes.

00:16:52.360 Like, yeah.

00:16:53.020 And he's fearless.

00:16:54.120 He'll do anything.

00:16:55.240 He was like just, yeah, it was awesome.

00:16:57.460 Just for him to be in there.

00:16:58.760 Did you cast for him?

00:17:00.580 Like, were you the picker for him?

00:17:02.180 Yeah, I was the picker.

00:17:03.300 Yep.

00:17:04.820 Yeah.

00:17:05.180 When we wrote the pilot for Eastbound and we had that role, you know, we were, we just

00:17:09.340 went to like, you know, we went through the regular casting process.

00:17:11.940 And honestly, like as soon as I saw him, then that's like where that character kind of like

00:17:16.440 blew up then.

00:17:17.080 Like there was no intentions when we first wrote that, that that character would be such

00:17:20.440 a big deal in the show.

00:17:21.420 But it was seeing how genuinely funny he was and how cool he was.

00:17:25.040 Then every season just became like, what can we get Steve to do this year?

00:17:28.380 He, he never shied away from any of it.

00:17:30.700 He was always game.

00:17:31.740 He'd always take it much further than we ever imagined.

00:17:33.880 He was amazing.

00:17:35.300 Yeah.

00:17:35.560 He, he's special.

00:17:36.440 And he drank out of those little, you know, those little creamer cups.

00:17:38.680 I saw him drink a couple of those in a row.

00:17:40.500 Me and him went down to Guadalajara, Mexico.

00:17:44.100 I guess it was beginning of last year.

00:17:46.460 Uh, I was launching this tequila brand, Don Gato, and I got him to come down there with

00:17:51.140 me and we shot these ads for it.

00:17:52.680 And after the first day of shooting, I came down to the hotel bar and he was just there

00:17:55.960 with a pad and paper.

00:17:57.140 And I'm like, what are you doing?

00:17:57.820 He's like, I'm handwriting my mom a letter.

00:17:59.540 Tell how, tell her how much fun I'm having here.

00:18:01.600 I was like, that's what I love about Steve Little.

00:18:03.680 He handwrites his mom letters.

00:18:06.160 It's a special person who does that.

00:18:08.480 Yeah.

00:18:08.700 Yeah.

00:18:08.940 He definitely seems like a hug that got left somewhere, but rescued.

00:18:12.880 That's right.

00:18:13.540 That's right.

00:18:14.440 Yeah.

00:18:14.800 We texted a little bit after I got to touch base with him and say, Hey, but that was just

00:18:18.180 crazy.

00:18:18.900 And it's just crazy.

00:18:19.900 Like you see people and you're like, Oh, this works for casting because we would have

00:18:23.620 friends that would send in videos and some of them are like audition tapes.

00:18:26.720 And then you're like, Oh man, that's my friend.

00:18:29.220 But it just doesn't fit for this thing.

00:18:30.700 It's just not the right fit.

00:18:31.760 It's like, it's super specific kind of to watch because I used to just put in audition

00:18:37.660 tapes and I would never get booked for anything.

00:18:39.280 And I was like, but then this time we're getting the videos in cause we're doing the casting.

00:18:43.560 And you're like, Oh, first of all, I see why I never got anything.

00:18:46.820 Like my shit was very obtuse.

00:18:50.300 But then, um, but then you'd have friends that would send a role and you're like, Oh,

00:18:53.720 this is almost perfect.

00:18:54.680 Or this would be kind of risky, but it might be adventurous.

00:18:57.740 It was, that was probably one of the most fun things I think about creating something.

00:19:01.340 Yeah.

00:19:01.740 That, that casting is definitely fun because stuff can just take a new life on and, and

00:19:05.720 you're right.

00:19:06.060 It's one of those deals where someone can be really good and you can kind of tell instantly

00:19:09.640 whether it's a, the right fit or not, not even based on their talent, but like whatever

00:19:13.980 ideas you had in mind for what that character looked like or how they talked.

00:19:17.340 And you can kind of tell instantly when someone comes in like, yep or nope, you know?

00:19:21.880 And I think that's a hard gig, man.

00:19:23.580 Just, I've been lucky that I have like tried to write most of the things that I've done,

00:19:28.580 but, uh, yeah, just being an actress to show up constantly and put yourself out there in

00:19:32.960 that way.

00:19:33.340 It's tough, man.

00:19:34.120 It is hard and drive over there and be depressed while you're driving over there, trying to

00:19:38.300 do your lines and be in traffic, sitting in a lobby where it's a bunch of dudes who look

00:19:43.120 kind of like you sucks.

00:19:46.060 Yeah.

00:19:46.640 Oh God, dude.

00:19:48.000 Yeah.

00:19:48.180 That was some of the tough, like I did that for probably six or seven years probably.

00:19:52.400 And I never had any hope that I was going to, I almost did it.

00:19:55.880 I think I don't even know why I was doing it.

00:19:57.700 I think you're just in LA also when you're young enough, you have the energy to do it.

00:20:00.900 Um, with fist foot way, you didn't write that, right?

00:20:05.340 Jody Hill wrote it.

00:20:06.080 Me and Jody wrote it together.

00:20:07.000 You wrote it together.

00:20:08.080 Um, and you guys shot that on, on super 16 or no super 16.

00:20:12.520 Yep.

00:20:12.820 Okay.

00:20:13.300 And you made that without going through sag and stuff, right?

00:20:17.320 No, we was totally independent.

00:20:18.940 I think we shot it for about 70 grand, shot it in like a little less than three weeks.

00:20:23.620 And yeah, it was all just buddies.

00:20:25.280 Everyone just came down there to do it.

00:20:27.040 And, um, yeah, I mean, it was, um, I, we had, Jody and I had both lived in LA for a few years

00:20:32.280 at that point.

00:20:32.760 And, you know, neither of us had found like any real success.

00:20:35.940 And so it was sort of a hail Mary of just like, all right, let's just see if we can kind

00:20:40.100 of do this on our own.

00:20:41.580 And what, what do you, what do you notice that's easier about doing a film like that

00:20:44.560 or doing something where you have to go through all the, uh, where, where everything

00:20:47.600 is more, um, you know, uh, guilds and all of that.

00:20:51.240 You know, if you're at a place where you can afford the guilds, then you're already have

00:20:54.600 a leg up, you know, you're already kind of in the zone.

00:20:56.880 That thing there was like, there's no one trying to help us make it.

00:20:59.620 There's no one, you know, they're not, they don't care about it, not being the guilds

00:21:02.580 because they just don't ever think it'll see the light of day.

00:21:05.160 So, you know, every bit of that is a fight because not only do you have to kind of get

00:21:09.280 the resources and figure out how to do it and how to talk people into coming and doing

00:21:13.220 it when there's no upside for them.

00:21:15.460 Uh, but then even once it's done, there's no guarantee that anything will ever happen with

00:21:20.020 it, you know?

00:21:20.500 And so I think that can be pretty discouraging for people sometimes.

00:21:23.280 Yeah.

00:21:25.240 Yeah.

00:21:25.560 It's definitely interesting.

00:21:26.940 Like we got, we made this movie and now we're figuring out, like we wrote it and everything

00:21:30.480 we funded ourselves.

00:21:31.880 So it's super scary.

00:21:33.180 Cause you're like, all you really have right now is this piece of debt kind of, um, but

00:21:38.640 then, and then it's like too long right now.

00:21:40.520 It's just like, we got to figure it out.

00:21:42.020 It just seems like it's, I don't know.

00:21:43.360 The whole thing has been super fascinating.

00:21:45.040 Yeah.

00:21:45.340 It's a, it's a crazy process.

00:21:46.660 And now, especially the entertainment industry has changed so much and yeah, it's all risk.

00:21:51.400 It seems like these days.

00:21:52.900 Yeah.

00:21:53.300 Do you, um, do you envy things about the entertainment industry right now?

00:21:56.820 Like as opposed to whenever you kind of first got into it, you know, what I find interesting

00:22:00.900 is like, I, you know, I went to film school in North Carolina.

00:22:04.340 That's where I met Jody Hill and a lot of the guys I work with.

00:22:06.820 And, uh, you know, in the nineties there was just like such a, uh, a healthy independent

00:22:12.040 like film market.

00:22:12.880 I mean, you were going to film school and you're seeing guys like Tarantino and, you

00:22:17.160 know, Kevin Smith and all these dudes are just like making stuff.

00:22:20.140 That's pretty simple and it's not requiring massive budgets and they're finding audiences.

00:22:24.440 And so it was inspiring.

00:22:25.940 You felt like you could do it.

00:22:27.120 Like you were like anyone could do it.

00:22:29.020 And it's kind of funny that it was much harder to make an independent film than I mean, you

00:22:32.980 were had to shoot on film.

00:22:34.280 You had to like, there was all these elements of things that were super expensive and it

00:22:38.240 seems kind of crazy that with technology, it should be easier than ever to make something

00:22:43.080 independent, but it feels like the market is like not as healthy as it used to be.

00:22:46.760 And, uh, yeah, it's kind of disappointing.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, I think, but yeah.

00:22:50.140 And then, but something new will come out of it, right?

00:22:52.060 That's how you kind of think like, how does this evolve?

00:22:54.000 What happens next?

00:22:54.920 You know, that sort of thing.

00:22:57.020 Was there a movie that you like, like that you may, that you wrote or that a role or some

00:23:02.300 little piece of something that you wanted to do that once you started to get a little

00:23:04.880 older, because sometimes I'm like, fuck, this thing would have, for me would have been great

00:23:08.720 like seven years ago.

00:23:09.920 I think I could have pulled it off, but now it's like, um, do you ever think like that?

00:23:13.780 Like, was there some, like, was there something you had?

00:23:17.120 You're like, fuck, now I'm going to have to cast somebody to do it instead of do it.

00:23:21.140 I, uh, it's so hard writing stuff that most of the time when I have written something,

00:23:26.360 it's been with the intention of going and making it.

00:23:28.640 I only have a few things that I've written that I didn't kind of move on, but most of

00:23:33.680 them were just because it wasn't any good and it wasn't something to kind of pursue.

00:23:37.140 But luckily, uh, all the stuff I've really put my energy into, I've been able to see it

00:23:42.000 to fruition in some way or another.

00:23:43.900 Wow.

00:23:44.340 Yeah.

00:23:46.160 Yeah.

00:23:46.580 But yeah.

00:23:46.940 Cause that's what I think about.

00:23:47.980 Like I had this idea for this thing.

00:23:49.060 It was like sinkhole baby, right?

00:23:50.360 Like a guy, like the sole survivor of a sinkhole, right?

00:23:53.100 Sinkhole baby.

00:23:54.000 In a small town, right?

00:23:55.040 And people are like, they fucking love him cause he made it cause God picked him.

00:23:58.480 And he, and at the cafe, they even have like, it'll have like a little oatmeal there, but

00:24:02.520 they put a raisin in it.

00:24:03.620 Like at the town cafe.

00:24:04.260 That's sinkhole baby.

00:24:05.200 That's him.

00:24:05.640 Yeah.

00:24:05.880 Wait.

00:24:06.100 And so you think that you've gotten too old to be sinkhole baby now?

00:24:09.380 Well, because, but then what happens is it creates a lot of hype when something happens

00:24:15.060 to you that you didn't plan, right?

00:24:16.480 Like suddenly you're a celebrity, but how do you live up to that in a small town when you didn't

00:24:20.080 really do anything when really God did it with gravity.

00:24:22.800 And now you have to fucking live like the repercussions of being sinkhole baby.

00:24:26.600 And then you go on tour with like other people, like hit by lightning guy and fucking, you know,

00:24:31.960 I think you need to make this to this.

00:24:33.520 There's, there's a story here.

00:24:34.700 Look at this.

00:24:35.220 I just feel sometimes like I'm just getting a little too old.

00:24:38.840 Hey man, you're never too old to be a sinkhole baby.

00:24:41.020 That's one thing I've learned in this world.

00:24:42.980 You think that?

00:24:43.820 Yeah.

00:24:44.160 I think I believe that.

00:24:46.460 And I think I don't know what the second half of it is.

00:24:48.960 Sometimes you got to go back in that sinkhole.

00:24:50.940 You left your phone in there.

00:24:51.920 You got to get, you got to get back in there.

00:24:53.820 Your buddy was left behind.

00:24:55.760 Got to get his body.

00:24:56.520 Got to bring it up.

00:24:57.600 And then at the end you go to the cafe and they put two raisins on top of that.

00:25:00.860 You know, that's how you win in the end.

00:25:04.740 Yeah.

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00:27:59.560 Do you see Shane Gillis sometimes?

00:28:02.080 Have you seen him?

00:28:02.700 Oh, yeah.

00:28:03.100 I love Shane.

00:28:04.220 Have you gotten to meet him or no?

00:28:05.300 I have.

00:28:05.940 Yeah, we helped him produce Tires, his show he does for Netflix.

00:28:09.380 You helped him produce it?

00:28:09.740 Yeah.

00:28:10.180 I didn't even know that.

00:28:11.240 Yep.

00:28:12.120 Yeah, because it's so funny that I think there's times when I see him and I'm like,

00:28:15.720 oh, there's something about him that it's not just you, but there's something about the

00:28:20.680 way he is.

00:28:21.940 He's himself.

00:28:22.920 He's himself, you know, not polished and just kind of shooting from the hip, you know?

00:28:27.940 That's good.

00:28:28.600 I think people respond to it.

00:28:29.860 I think they like seeing that.

00:28:31.100 Yeah.

00:28:31.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:32.540 He's a special guy.

00:28:33.620 And he's just like one look.

00:28:35.000 He's like, yep.

00:28:36.320 And you're in, dude.

00:28:37.340 Yeah, he makes me laugh.

00:28:38.380 He does, man.

00:28:39.180 He makes everybody laugh.

00:28:40.560 It's good.

00:28:41.100 And it's cool to see him.

00:28:42.120 Like, Tires was kind of a comedy that I think kind of changed things because there's jokes

00:28:45.680 in there that I feel like they wouldn't put on Netflix 10 years ago or even five years

00:28:49.560 ago.

00:28:50.100 Yeah.

00:28:50.460 And now it's changed.

00:28:51.380 And do you feel some of that?

00:28:52.840 You know, I feel like this, we've always tried to push it in everything that we've done.

00:28:56.840 I've, you know, I know people are like, oh, you can't make comedies about this, that

00:28:59.480 anymore.

00:28:59.680 But, you know, even when we made Eastbound and Down, it wasn't like they were asking for

00:29:02.980 that.

00:29:03.240 It wasn't like people were like, we need like a racist baseball player that cusses at kids and does

00:29:08.420 cocaine.

00:29:08.860 I mean, there wasn't like a, like an ad in the trades for it.

00:29:11.940 You know, I think that you come in, you make something funny and then that's what, you know,

00:29:16.520 that starts new trends.

00:29:17.700 That makes people gravitate towards it.

00:29:19.380 I think that obviously you see people getting in trouble for saying fucked up shit.

00:29:24.020 But I also like, I feel like it's very rarely do you see people get in trouble for actually

00:29:29.120 like making something that is, you know, I think people get, I think people get in trouble

00:29:34.640 sometimes rightfully so for saying bad shit.

00:29:37.380 But I mean, rare, I mean, I can't really think of where people really get in trouble for like

00:29:40.720 making something that pushes the lines.

00:29:43.400 I mean, maybe I'm like forgetting things, but I kind of feel like a lot of times people just

00:29:48.040 want their ass to be kissed.

00:29:49.120 And I think when you make something that pushes the boundaries, everyone's not going to kiss

00:29:52.800 your ass.

00:29:53.360 People will get upset about it.

00:29:55.020 And you have to be cool with that being part of what goes with pushing the boundaries is

00:29:58.460 that those boundaries are going to sometimes push back on you.

00:30:01.220 And that's just part of the deal.

00:30:02.460 Yeah, I almost relate when you're saying that, it makes me feel like it, like if you tweet

00:30:06.360 something, you're just saying something, you're looking for controversy.

00:30:08.900 It's like, yeah, but if you go out and make like, uh, put out a conversation of something,

00:30:13.640 then the response from people is different.

00:30:16.360 It is tweet.

00:30:17.440 People just argue.

00:30:18.260 There's all type of shit, but you go and, uh, actually put a conversation out.

00:30:22.600 Then it is more of like discussion and people at least respect that you had the conversation.

00:30:26.800 I think so.

00:30:27.420 I think that's what it is.

00:30:28.120 I mean, obviously you can be judged on whether it's good or not, but that's a different thing than

00:30:32.160 whether if you're just putting something out there, that's problematic and people get

00:30:35.560 mad about it.

00:30:36.100 I mean, it feels like that's honestly what you're asking for, right?

00:30:38.260 When people put something out there that's controversial, it's made to have people start

00:30:44.000 fighting, right?

00:30:44.600 Isn't that part of how the whole thing works?

00:30:45.960 I think so.

00:30:47.300 Yeah.

00:30:47.580 Shane just did SNL.

00:30:49.040 Did you get to see any of it?

00:30:50.280 I did.

00:30:50.840 I saw a couple of beers.

00:30:52.360 That's pretty funny.

00:30:54.020 I need a couple of beers in my personal life.

00:30:56.100 I think I will fix a lot of things.

00:30:57.520 Oh yeah.

00:30:58.260 I mean, I fucking used to overdose over there in Charleston, especially on Halloween.

00:31:01.140 I mean, dude, one year I made out with three ladybugs, dude.

00:31:04.200 Oh, just the creatures, the ladybugs, the actual insects?

00:31:08.620 People dressed as them.

00:31:09.960 Oh, perfect.

00:31:11.020 And then you wet the bed and went sailing after that?

00:31:14.420 Perfect.

00:31:14.940 That's a perfect night out in Charleston.

00:31:16.500 That's the Charleston decathlon right there, dude.

00:31:19.440 Oh yeah.

00:31:19.920 Everything in Charleston seemed haunted.

00:31:23.620 Did you, Shane just did SNL.

00:31:25.400 Did you, you ever hosted SNL?

00:31:27.820 I've never hosted SNL.

00:31:29.120 Did you get asked to do it?

00:31:30.280 Did you not one of yours was a thing or, you know, the, uh, is there any real gravity

00:31:34.000 there or am I just slurping around?

00:31:35.840 Cause I'll, I'll fucking shine this dick on myself if you need me to.

00:31:38.700 You can, you shine there.

00:31:39.480 You know what?

00:31:40.020 Uh, I, uh, I love SNL.

00:31:43.080 I grew up watching it.

00:31:44.060 And, um, one of the first moves I ever did was Hot Rod, which is produced by Lorne Michaels.

00:31:48.000 And, uh, when we, um, when we were shooting Hot Rod, I met Bill Hader and Andy Sandberg

00:31:54.100 and Akiva and Yorma and all those guys.

00:31:55.660 And, uh, they were just coming off their first year of SNL.

00:31:58.760 And so it was cool.

00:31:59.520 I liked those guys.

00:32:00.220 And Lorne had actually kind of, uh, prodded me to see if I was interested in joining the

00:32:04.440 cast, but it was the same exact week that we sold Eastbound and down.

00:32:09.020 And so I was like, as much as I'm flattered, this is, uh, this is what I'm going to go

00:32:13.340 off and do.

00:32:14.040 And, uh, and then none of them ever talked to me ever again.

00:32:16.960 Yeah.

00:32:17.980 Rod, yeah.

00:32:19.200 Well, after seeing Kenny Powers, how do you think Kenny Powers would pitch against some

00:32:22.400 of today's hitters?

00:32:23.100 Do you think?

00:32:24.000 I think he would have to juice it up, dude.

00:32:25.840 He would, he would have to.

00:32:27.280 Don't you think?

00:32:27.780 I feel like there should just be a special league for just all the dudes who juice it up.

00:32:30.960 Right.

00:32:32.120 Bring it up.

00:32:32.620 There's Olympics that start.

00:32:33.580 There's a new dope Olympics.

00:32:36.500 They're starting up.

00:32:37.240 I love it.

00:32:37.680 That's a great idea.

00:32:39.020 And the Trump sun is starting up, which is kind of like imperfect.

00:32:42.240 Is it really?

00:32:42.840 It's an enhanced game.

00:32:44.120 So they call it enhanced game.

00:32:45.940 Oh, dude, which is, that's also what I call my erection.

00:32:49.120 A lot of times.

00:32:49.600 This is a, this, this is something else.

00:32:52.180 Yeah.

00:32:52.540 Cause I'm one of those pills, but a group, oh yeah.

00:32:54.340 A group led by Donald Trump Jr.

00:32:55.600 Is infusing funding and some political muscle into the enhanced games.

00:32:59.920 And so what's the thought process here?

00:33:01.480 This will sort of, anybody who wants to dope it up, we'll stay out of the, uh, the regular

00:33:06.000 leagues and they'll be, they'll gravitate towards this.

00:33:08.260 Is that what it is?

00:33:08.860 Come over here.

00:33:09.740 Yeah.

00:33:09.900 It says he's offering $1 million for the first sprinter to break the a hundred meter world

00:33:14.180 record.

00:33:14.520 Can you imagine some guy just the rest of his body's falling off?

00:33:18.120 No, they cross the finish line.

00:33:19.380 Their hearts explode.

00:33:20.340 That's what happens if you win.

00:33:21.760 Yep.

00:33:22.220 Wow.

00:33:22.580 How do you train for these events?

00:33:25.680 I can't wait to see.

00:33:26.740 It's just going to be super humans leaping over houses.

00:33:29.960 Well, I'll tell you how you train in our town.

00:33:31.600 You would meet up with the guy behind the wind Dixie and get some test 200.

00:33:34.840 First of all, you would hide it from your wife and have to pull over on the side of the interstate

00:33:39.300 and shoot.

00:33:40.160 And you and your buddy who have been like talking about how, who commonly refer to against gay

00:33:45.840 folks have to pull over and shoot it into each other's rear end.

00:33:49.660 Yeah.

00:33:50.000 And then all your hair falls out and zits start forming on your back.

00:33:52.680 And your wife is like, what is going on?

00:33:54.280 What happened to you?

00:33:56.020 But, but you're ready for the three-legged race with your buddy.

00:34:00.480 You're going to do it.

00:34:00.860 Yeah.

00:34:00.980 I like that.

00:34:01.620 That's what matters.

00:34:02.080 I'll tune in.

00:34:02.860 I'm in.

00:34:04.000 You have your last season of Gemstones?

00:34:05.940 Last season of Gemstones.

00:34:07.120 I've been, I live in Charleston, like we talked about, but so I've been out in LA this

00:34:10.940 week, just running around, running my mouth.

00:34:13.780 This is my last day of running my mouth.

00:34:16.140 It's wonderful.

00:34:16.980 Oh, thank you, man.

00:34:17.660 It really is cool.

00:34:18.720 That's for last.

00:34:19.600 Well, it's nice of you to say that and lie to me, but I will say that I waited in line

00:34:24.580 once I'm going to get a photo with you, like probably maybe 10 years ago somewhere.

00:34:29.480 Really?

00:34:29.780 Where?

00:34:30.100 I think it was at Comic-Con.

00:34:31.160 Oh, really?

00:34:31.960 Yeah.

00:34:32.380 Shit.

00:34:33.000 It's pretty cool.

00:34:33.820 I know people, when this show first started, I think everyone thought you were on the show.

00:34:37.640 They always thought you were Tony Cavalero.

00:34:39.360 Oh, yeah.

00:34:40.300 Tony's a buddy of mine.

00:34:41.360 Yeah.

00:34:41.620 You guys, you guys had that similar vibe.

00:34:43.880 I think I actually, honestly, when it, when the first season came out, I remember, I remember

00:34:47.480 I had, I met with a reporter and they asked me what it was like to work with Theo Vaughn.

00:34:51.740 Did they?

00:34:52.160 Yeah.

00:34:52.400 And I was like, that's not Theo Vaughn.

00:34:55.000 Oh, I've had people come up to me and think I'm in the gym so it's 20 times.

00:34:58.040 I'll play along with it.

00:34:59.780 I like, yeah, but oh, this dude's so awesome, man.

00:35:02.900 Tony's one of the greats.

00:35:03.880 I love Tony.

00:35:04.600 And he's such a sweet guy.

00:35:05.220 He really is.

00:35:05.920 He's incredible.

00:35:06.080 Whoa, somebody put her face right there.

00:35:07.280 I didn't even notice that.

00:35:08.240 Look at that one.

00:35:08.900 No wonder some people think this shit.

00:35:12.580 Oh, look at you, dude.

00:35:14.460 Look at you.

00:35:15.460 That's Trevor Wallace.

00:35:16.420 That's hilarious.

00:35:18.480 These days, you don't even know.

00:35:20.040 This is the magic AI.

00:35:21.160 Look at that.

00:35:21.800 I'd buy it.

00:35:22.560 I know.

00:35:24.060 Wow.

00:35:24.580 And it's very similar chests.

00:35:26.600 Very similar.

00:35:29.180 Yeah.

00:35:29.720 How do you.

00:35:30.720 I'm just noticing how much more rip Tony is now.

00:35:33.140 Like he was always strong, but God damn, that dude got really strong over the last few

00:35:37.040 years.

00:35:37.760 Yeah.

00:35:38.040 Well, he just has such a.

00:35:39.920 Him and him and divine oftentimes in the when we're shooting down Charleston, those guys

00:35:44.660 have the same schedule.

00:35:45.600 And so every day that they're not working, they're just fucking pumping iron together.

00:35:49.040 Are they just getting strong, spotting each other?

00:35:51.560 Yeah.

00:35:52.860 Yeah, dude.

00:35:53.460 I remember they had a gay fellow in our town.

00:35:55.160 He was a drug dealer.

00:35:56.300 So everybody wanted drugs.

00:35:57.960 So also that's how you also kind of like met gay guys, you know, or at the first time.

00:36:02.640 So they had the cool treats.

00:36:04.020 Right.

00:36:04.240 It was like, dude, yeah, these guys are fucking.

00:36:06.460 But I think it did a lot for our town because some people who may not have like kind of

00:36:10.100 like, you know, branched out more, you know, or just like had more questions.

00:36:14.740 Suddenly you were sitting there high as hell.

00:36:16.740 Yeah.

00:36:16.960 And then more gay people started kind of like drugs are the great equalizer.

00:36:20.780 Right.

00:36:21.100 Oh, yeah.

00:36:21.700 You can.

00:36:22.060 It crosses every boundary known.

00:36:24.540 Oh, God.

00:36:26.020 Yes.

00:36:26.380 Oh, were there real life pastors that you used to, to, that you sent your gemstone pastors

00:36:34.480 like, like John Goodman and baby Billy.

00:36:39.240 Do you send them like, did you have them reflect on guys or you go watch, you get some front

00:36:43.800 row tickets to some Osteen or what were you doing?

00:36:46.080 You know what?

00:36:46.660 A lot of it was just like watching videos and stuff.

00:36:49.180 And then I actually kind of went around and I did it.

00:36:51.240 I interviewed a few different pastors just before I told them what I was making a show

00:36:55.460 about.

00:36:55.980 And just, you know, for my own ideas, my own insight and people were responsive.

00:37:00.720 They, they talked to me, you know, my aunt, she actually sadly passed away just a few weeks

00:37:04.560 ago, but she was a minister.

00:37:05.720 Uh, so I talked to her a lot about the church and, uh, really what kind of church did she

00:37:10.340 minister at?

00:37:11.080 She, I think it was, I feel like she was, um, it was in Atlanta and it was just, it wasn't

00:37:15.400 a mega church, but it was one of those sort of these, uh, you know, churches that can pop

00:37:19.840 up in shopping centers and not look like your typical church.

00:37:22.600 And she kind of moved into counseling after that as well.

00:37:25.080 And, but, um, you know, I grew up in a household that was pretty religious.

00:37:28.740 My mom was, uh, she did like puppet ministry when I was a child.

00:37:32.580 She would like do the children's sermons and stuff like that.

00:37:36.380 Oh, really?

00:37:36.860 Yeah.

00:37:37.320 And do they hide behind something to do that is out front?

00:37:39.800 It's like a little, we, we had this like, uh, PVC pipe frame with felt over it and they'd

00:37:46.540 hide behind there.

00:37:47.540 And, uh, and, and my mom had like, uh, like boxes of these puppets and she would, uh, drum

00:37:52.800 up these little scripts and, you know, kind of mostly Bible characters.

00:37:56.360 Uh, no, there, well, sometimes there would be, but sometimes they would just be these characters

00:37:59.780 and they would have to learn Bible lessons, you know?

00:38:01.440 Oh, God, that's crazy, right?

00:38:03.960 So it was like, it was like suddenly Paul Revere's in one of the scenes or something.

00:38:07.380 Yes, exactly.

00:38:08.460 But it was, uh, you know, so I grew up with all that stuff.

00:38:12.040 So yeah, this is exactly, that's the kind of shit we do right there.

00:38:14.560 That was it.

00:38:15.140 Oh, this is great, huh?

00:38:16.740 Yep.

00:38:17.640 And, um, oh my God.

00:38:19.740 Yeah.

00:38:20.740 And the guy on the right, obviously.

00:38:23.060 Yeah.

00:38:23.240 He's learning stuff.

00:38:24.040 He's learning about the, he's, he's singing a song about sinkhole baby, you know, and about

00:38:28.480 how Jesus raised him up out of the sinkhole, made him into a little raisin.

00:38:33.580 Oh, that's cool, man.

00:38:35.120 Yeah.

00:38:35.280 I'm trying to think if we had any puppets, like, uh, no, what did we have?

00:38:40.320 We had a guy who was missing one finger.

00:38:42.220 Puppeting is a lot of shoulder work.

00:38:43.480 People don't think about that.

00:38:44.700 Got to have a lot of upper body strength.

00:38:46.300 Yeah.

00:38:46.920 You're a fucking, that's the French bulldog.

00:38:49.520 Stay like that.

00:38:50.340 The drama region.

00:38:51.360 Yeah.

00:38:51.500 You're really building those shoulders.

00:38:53.560 Um, is your mom pretty proud of you?

00:38:55.160 What's you guys' relationship like?

00:38:56.620 We're good.

00:38:57.100 We're, we're strong.

00:38:58.020 She, uh, she, she moved, they lived in Virginia.

00:39:00.580 And then when we moved down to Charleston, uh, she moved there.

00:39:04.160 Uh, my wife's from Los Angeles.

00:39:05.920 You know, I met her out here.

00:39:06.900 We were here for, I was here for like 20 years.

00:39:09.600 And so when I convinced her to move to Charleston with us, uh, you know, figured it was only right.

00:39:14.780 Me, her, and the kids come down.

00:39:16.480 Her mom, who's a Angeleno, she moved down there too.

00:39:19.740 So now for the first time in my life, I have like all, I live in the same town as my parents.

00:39:24.420 And yeah, it's kind of wild.

00:39:26.340 Wow.

00:39:27.720 That's so cool, dude.

00:39:29.220 You like got to capture the whole dream.

00:39:31.120 I think that's everybody's dream.

00:39:32.140 I'm going to go, I'll show them, I'll move.

00:39:35.080 I'll have the girl, I'll have the family, you know, it's been, it's, it's been nice, man.

00:39:40.480 I, I always feel grateful for what we get to do.

00:39:43.280 And, uh, but the fact that like, like this show, all the shows we've done, I've made it with

00:39:47.400 all the, my buddies that I met in college, you know, guys I met when I was 18 years old

00:39:51.800 were, you know, smoking weed together in the dorm rooms, talking about movies and all this

00:39:56.100 shit.

00:39:56.320 And now, you know, 25 years later, we're all still doing the same stuff.

00:40:00.760 It's kind of awesome.

00:40:01.700 Yeah.

00:40:02.620 Yeah.

00:40:02.940 I wonder, um, yeah, I would like to get to meet a wife sometime soon.

00:40:06.940 Where did you meet your wife at a certain location?

00:40:08.960 I met her and she was like a friend of my neighbor when I lived in this shitty apartment

00:40:13.280 over in West Hollywood.

00:40:14.200 And so it was just kind of one of those things where you don't have any money to go to any

00:40:18.160 of these expensive bars or clubs when you're in your early twenties out here.

00:40:21.700 And yeah, except for the fucking Rizzler, you're going to Craig's dude, drinking two

00:40:26.540 Pepsis after nine, living that high life.

00:40:29.000 I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, his grades are down, but the money's up, you know,

00:40:32.760 that's his fucking life.

00:40:33.900 I know.

00:40:34.360 I've had that like, you know, moving, I went to college in North Carolina and moved here

00:40:38.520 in 99 and man, this was a tough, this is a tough city to come into from with nothing.

00:40:43.220 You know, it's, it's, it's hard living.

00:40:44.760 I feel like when you get out here and you're waiting tables and PA and, and just doing all

00:40:48.980 this stuff, making no money and it hurts, you can't go do anything.

00:40:51.820 And every girl that's your age is dating someone who's 15 years older and successful.

00:40:56.780 Dating Aerosmith or something.

00:40:58.260 It was, it's tough.

00:40:59.880 And yeah.

00:41:00.080 And they take a girl like on a world tour and then you're like, I'm supposed to what?

00:41:02.920 Take her where for a walk.

00:41:04.060 Like, what am I, how am I even going to compete?

00:41:06.340 Dude, I remember on my birthday, we, I got out here, I've been out here for like a year

00:41:10.460 and I bought a used refrigerator, right?

00:41:13.040 I was saving, when I finally went and looked at the price, I was probably saving $60, right?

00:41:17.160 Nightmare.

00:41:17.860 Had to borrow somebody's truck to go get it, um, out towards the recita, get it back home

00:41:22.380 on my birthday.

00:41:23.320 I spent my whole birthday doing this.

00:41:24.480 I get it over to the door of our apartment and it gets, it will not go in.

00:41:28.960 It's just a little too wide.

00:41:30.320 So now I have to take the fucking doors.

00:41:31.860 I just, I remember sitting against the wall crying.

00:41:35.140 I was on steroids, but I was also sitting there just, and dude, parking spots were too

00:41:40.200 small.

00:41:40.640 You'd open the, you couldn't get out.

00:41:42.100 You'd get a ticket and you would ding the, everything about LA was fucking impossible.

00:41:46.700 Yeah.

00:41:46.820 And it felt too, like when the city, the city could be against you, you know, like parking

00:41:50.800 tickets, stuff like that.

00:41:51.680 I mean, it just felt like when your day was bad, that's always when you would come out

00:41:56.180 and there'd be a boot on your car and it would just get worse and worse and worse.

00:41:59.360 And, and that's the other thing is when you're kind of living on the edge like that, it feels

00:42:03.240 like no one gives a shit either.

00:42:04.520 Like people would walk over you and if you were laying on the ground bleeding, you know?

00:42:08.920 Yeah.

00:42:09.280 It was tough.

00:42:10.560 Did you, um, did you ever do standup too or no?

00:42:13.620 I never did standup.

00:42:14.880 No.

00:42:15.120 I mean, I, I desire to, you think I don't, I, I didn't really, you know, honestly, I

00:42:19.300 didn't even really have any ambitions to be an actor.

00:42:21.660 It's like, you know, I went to film school to write and to make, I always kind of imagined

00:42:25.040 I would just be behind the camera and, uh, you know, and that's true.

00:42:28.620 A hundred percent.

00:42:29.260 A hundred percent.

00:42:29.980 Yeah.

00:42:30.200 I mean, uh, yeah, I didn't have any ambitions of, of trying to be an actor at all.

00:42:34.300 David green, who was another classmate of mine, he made this movie called all the real

00:42:38.280 girls.

00:42:39.000 Bring it up.

00:42:39.840 It's, it's a beautiful film about first love and Appalachia.

00:42:45.440 Ooh, really?

00:42:46.440 Yeah.

00:42:46.660 But his, uh, his, uh, he had an actor who backed out of the show the last minute and

00:42:52.340 it was an independent movie.

00:42:53.560 And he just asked me to come down and play the role cause he didn't have time to cast

00:42:57.560 somebody else.

00:42:58.440 And it was the very first time I ever acted in anything.

00:43:00.680 And, uh, and after Jody saw it, he wanted to make a movie and he was like, well, you're

00:43:05.700 the only person we know who's been in something.

00:43:07.700 So it's funny that we thought that was a leg up just that dude right there.

00:43:12.500 We thought we'd somehow get something.

00:43:16.040 It's so crazy that when you go from an idea, like even with this, like it was all emails

00:43:21.980 and then we show up one day on set and there was a real movie going on.

00:43:25.580 Dude, I had to sit down for a while.

00:43:26.880 I was like, Oh my God, I thought everybody was just fucking around.

00:43:29.620 Like, and then it was a real movie and there was like people and people don't know what

00:43:33.180 they're doing and people do know what they're doing.

00:43:34.840 People are yelling and people are, but there was, it was like, Oh my God, this is really

00:43:39.100 it.

00:43:39.400 And then you realize it's so hard to make something really too.

00:43:42.700 Cause so many little things happen.

00:43:44.040 Like we got pushed by the fire for a week and it was like, suddenly that changes everything.

00:43:48.200 And you have, you don't know if people are.

00:43:49.620 And then we had to shoot one day, the day with Steve little, where it's like the winds

00:43:52.620 were 40 miles an hour.

00:43:53.740 We can't afford to reshoot.

00:43:54.940 So it's like fucking pretend that the winds are 40 miles an hour.

00:43:59.460 We had the same thing on gemstones here.

00:44:01.280 I mean, that's what a lot of this stuff becomes is it becomes surrounding yourself with just

00:44:05.500 strategists, like people on your team that just know how to solve problems because that's

00:44:09.920 what a hundred percent, what all making anything is, is you got your idea of what it's going

00:44:14.060 to be.

00:44:14.340 And then every day it's dealing with something that's coming your way to make it less than

00:44:18.460 what you want it to be.

00:44:19.400 And you've got to figure out how to navigate it.

00:44:21.460 Yeah.

00:44:21.620 When we shot the season of gemstones right near the end, I mean, like there's this like

00:44:26.420 pretty specific location to this season.

00:44:28.340 And, uh, I fought really hard to be able to get in this place and shoot there, but we

00:44:33.420 only had limited time in the night before we had to shoot like the last scene of the

00:44:37.180 entire series.

00:44:38.200 Hurricane Helena comes through that part of Carolina and just like decimated everything.

00:44:43.500 And this location that we're at, it's like a hundred mile per hour winds, no power.

00:44:48.120 And it's like, there's no alternative, you know, we have to shoot this thing.

00:44:52.200 You have to just do it.

00:44:53.340 So it's like, like, well, once these hurricane force winds die down, maybe we'll try to get

00:44:57.280 some extension cords and finish this thing off.

00:44:59.240 And that's exactly what we did.

00:45:00.880 It was crazy.

00:45:02.940 Damn.

00:45:03.420 Yeah.

00:45:03.720 It's, I think it's just saying no matter what level things are at, if you're doing something

00:45:06.960 in your backyard and you and your brother plan to shoot something and then halfway through,

00:45:10.620 he doesn't like his attitude changes and he goes in the house.

00:45:13.200 Yeah.

00:45:13.660 It's like, it's always, and that ruins it, whatever your little plan was, it's always

00:45:17.240 something, right?

00:45:18.240 Yeah.

00:45:18.460 There's always something that's going to show up.

00:45:21.660 How do you know when a show is done like this?

00:45:24.660 You know, I wasn't sure with this.

00:45:26.420 I mean, I've been really lucky with HBO that they've always been real supportive of the

00:45:29.760 stuff I want to do.

00:45:30.640 And they're, they're awesome partners to have in this.

00:45:33.560 And man, I think it kind of just came as we started writing this season.

00:45:36.960 To me, it just felt like it.

00:45:38.020 I felt like when I was starting to write it, like everything I was kind of gravitating towards

00:45:41.160 was all like about closure and sort of wrapping up these characters, like longer stories.

00:45:45.920 And so I kind of kept myself open while we were shooting, like in case I got any other

00:45:49.820 ideas of like, maybe I'd come back and do another one.

00:45:52.300 But as we kind of shot more and more, it just, it felt like it was the end.

00:45:56.020 It felt like it.

00:45:57.140 Yeah.

00:45:57.540 And I, I don't know, TV is one of those things too, where it's a strange art form because

00:46:02.840 if it's good, the reward is you just get to keep doing it and doing it and doing it.

00:46:06.900 But sometimes that doesn't necessarily make for the best story, you know, just to have,

00:46:10.120 you know, all right, this is like the 10th time these characters have almost died, you

00:46:13.420 know, or whatever that's that show.

00:46:15.400 Yeah.

00:46:15.520 Where things can overstay their welcome.

00:46:16.900 And, you know, I mean, it's people are getting hit with so many things these days.

00:46:20.960 Like there's so many things vying for your attention.

00:46:24.460 It's, it's a lot to ask an audience to like stick with the show for 10 years or something.

00:46:28.780 You know what I mean?

00:46:29.500 And just think that your tastes in 10 years will be the same as it was in the first season

00:46:33.740 came out.

00:46:34.160 So for me, I didn't want to stay in it longer than we needed to.

00:46:37.600 I never wanted to make it something where it didn't matter.

00:46:40.100 I always kind of wanted to make sure it was relevant and something we were all having fun

00:46:43.820 doing and never kind of, uh, evolve into something that just feels like a job.

00:46:48.320 Yeah.

00:46:49.840 Was there something special that you like to do for your crew and stuff like that?

00:46:53.180 Like you talk so much about like the guys that work for you and work with you.

00:46:55.660 I'm sure you use a lot of the same crew and stuff too, because they're, you develop relationships,

00:46:59.500 you know how people are going to work, you know what people will be there for you on those,

00:47:02.020 you know, when it's 1am and you're like, what the fuck are we going to do right now?

00:47:05.540 Um, what's something you'd like to do for them?

00:47:07.440 I've heard that you do nice things for them.

00:47:09.380 Yeah.

00:47:09.480 We just like to party.

00:47:10.300 I mean, to me, I feel like it's one of those deals.

00:47:12.460 I like to rock and roll.

00:47:13.960 Uh, but I, I do feel like, you know, especially living down there when you're asking people

00:47:17.940 to come work on the show, you're asking them to like leave their lives through the comfort

00:47:21.100 of their home, sometimes leave their spouse or their partner and come down there for,

00:47:25.240 you know, six months to come work with you.

00:47:27.100 So I've been on stuff where I've been on location and it's sort of like, yeah, good

00:47:31.260 luck, buddy.

00:47:31.780 You know, you're just going to end up, you don't know anybody.

00:47:33.660 You're sitting in a hotel room.

00:47:34.640 It's the worst.

00:47:35.500 And, uh, so I always just try to at a Westin.

00:47:38.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:39.700 I just try to avoid that.

00:47:41.460 I mean, you, obviously everyone's different.

00:47:42.900 People want their own.

00:47:44.140 Sometimes people want to be left alone in the Westin, but I try to just make everybody feel

00:47:48.360 like they're at home when they come there, like try to make them have a good time.

00:47:51.280 And ultimately it's like, you know, for me, it's the whole idea that we get to make this

00:47:55.860 shit is so much fun.

00:47:57.120 Like, I don't even watch these things after we're done.

00:47:59.500 I don't even go back and watch any of this stuff again.

00:48:01.640 My experience with it is like the act of making it.

00:48:04.480 That's really feels like the climax to me.

00:48:06.940 Uh, I'll, I'm in, you know, I'm on, I oversee like every cut of this show and in post, but

00:48:12.940 yeah, once this stuff like is done, I'm kind of done with it.

00:48:16.040 You know, it kind of feels even the old movies from pineapple to tropic, it's like, I'll

00:48:20.220 see them at the premiere.

00:48:21.100 And then I oftentimes just will never even see them again.

00:48:23.540 You know, I'll see clips of things online and be like, Oh, that's crazy.

00:48:26.540 I remember that, but I don't know.

00:48:28.520 I just, I have a lot of fun making this stuff.

00:48:30.440 I like collaborating with people.

00:48:32.120 Like you were saying, those problems that come up solving that stuff, that feeling of

00:48:36.380 accomplishment when you do sort of dodge a bullet, like that's the excitement and the

00:48:40.020 fun for me.

00:48:41.280 Yeah.

00:48:41.700 I noticed, I don't like the acting part.

00:48:43.300 I noticed I liked the, um, giving somebody an idea and be like, not telling the other

00:48:47.320 actors and stuff and be like, try this.

00:48:49.160 Yeah.

00:48:49.400 And then seeing what that, what that creates.

00:48:51.460 Yeah.

00:48:51.700 That's the beauty of it all.

00:48:53.080 Yeah.

00:48:53.260 We had this one moment, like Spade is like taking this dog for a ride.

00:48:57.460 Cause the company, he works for this company called last lap.

00:48:59.900 They give dogs rides like they're like, they're about to be euthanized or whatever.

00:49:02.800 He gives them a couple more spins around town, you know, in his car.

00:49:05.640 That's nice.

00:49:06.220 That's a nice thing to do.

00:49:07.180 Yeah.

00:49:07.460 Sweet guy.

00:49:07.940 So he pulls up and then it's like Kirk Fox, you know, he is Kirk Fox pulls up.

00:49:12.800 Oh, next to him in a truck.

00:49:15.020 And, uh, Kirk's just been like looting in the air, I guess sort of stoplight.

00:49:20.420 And he's like, what are you guys, you guys get anything good?

00:49:22.540 He's like, yeah, we just got a hot lead on John Bonet's wedding dress.

00:49:26.360 Right.

00:49:29.340 And that came from your dome.

00:49:30.700 That was, that was out of, that was out of your pocket.

00:49:32.660 And I snuck over just like a fucking, like a, like a fucking Navy seal.

00:49:36.980 I just put this little fucking, I just shine that cock right in his soul.

00:49:41.700 And then I went off and hit in the distance.

00:49:43.360 And that's what I noticed.

00:49:44.520 That's the only thing I always loved.

00:49:46.020 I always liked, even when we were a kid, like we would go like, like not getting molested,

00:49:50.420 what's called camping with people's dads.

00:49:51.940 Right.

00:49:52.700 And getting molested.

00:49:53.620 No, you were right.

00:49:54.280 The first thing you said was right.

00:49:56.500 It was like Cub Scouts or whatever.

00:49:58.480 But I remember one time we left and I told everybody that Jay Leno had died.

00:50:01.740 Right.

00:50:02.020 Right.

00:50:02.180 And you couldn't check back then.

00:50:03.660 So the whole weekend you would hear the dads talking about it, kind of reminiscing about

00:50:07.560 Leno and some of their favorite guests and shit.

00:50:09.100 And I would be in my tent laying down, just crying out of my fucking little penis.

00:50:14.440 I was crying out of laughing so fucking hard.

00:50:18.080 I, then those, that, that kind of stuff was boy scout camps.

00:50:21.120 I went to a boy scout camp when I was a kid.

00:50:23.340 And I remember it was like, we had this, our cub master was this, uh, was one of the

00:50:27.680 kids dads and it was him with, you know, 12 boys and we're camping and he just got over

00:50:34.620 the course of the week.

00:50:35.500 He just got stranger and stranger and at one point he just kind of like left, you know,

00:50:39.580 left the camp for a while and had been a bit since he'd been back there.

00:50:43.220 And every night we would always notice that he'd go into his tent and he would just like

00:50:47.840 lay down and put these headphones on and just kind of lay there.

00:50:50.440 And so I was so curious, like, what is this motherfucker listening to?

00:50:53.820 And I'm probably like 12 years old.

00:50:55.500 And when he was gone, I snuck into his tent and I picked up his headphones and I put it

00:50:59.780 on and hit play.

00:51:00.760 They were like messages from his wife talking about how he was a good man.

00:51:04.760 And like, it made me terrified of the road.

00:51:09.380 Like, let's just get me home.

00:51:10.440 This guy's sitting in here just like listening to his wife, pump them up and with those 12

00:51:14.120 boys in the woods.

00:51:16.680 Oh my God.

00:51:18.340 That's so sweet of her to make all that.

00:51:20.480 I, why did he need it though?

00:51:21.800 Like, that's what it was like.

00:51:22.920 It seemed like the tires were about to fall off.

00:51:27.600 Probably keeping him on the end of a fucking rope, dude.

00:51:30.880 Dude, that's a crazy dude.

00:51:33.040 I got, almost got sent home from that camp too, because I pulled a knife on a kid.

00:51:36.660 Not, not for real.

00:51:38.060 No, of course not.

00:51:38.420 But I had, I had that, you know, when you're that age and you have your little knives, your

00:51:42.140 little Boy Scout knives, you're constantly playing with it.

00:51:44.460 And I guess this other troop walked past us and I'd pulled that knife out and they thought

00:51:48.680 I was like fucking threatening someone.

00:51:50.780 And I had to go into the office and explain myself, you know, and I got my knife taken

00:51:55.460 away for the rest of the week.

00:51:56.700 Yeah.

00:51:57.740 Yeah, dude.

00:51:58.360 There was something I remember like, um, when I was a kid, we used to, well, we'd get one

00:52:03.740 thing we would do for fun.

00:52:04.520 I remember the mosquito truck would come by and we'd get on our bikes and fucking ride

00:52:07.660 behind it and just huff the gas.

00:52:09.200 Just get high.

00:52:10.840 Bro, we would be fucking cooked, dude.

00:52:14.960 Just like unbelievable.

00:52:16.900 A trail of dead mosquitoes around.

00:52:18.860 Everybody's singing.

00:52:19.520 Dude, bro, if I got, went near a bird, it would die after that.

00:52:24.420 Like anything, anything that could fucking hit the airwaves is dead.

00:52:28.100 I couldn't even pick up AM radio, bro.

00:52:29.980 I was like anything that could fly was, it was, that was something fun.

00:52:34.200 I remember, I remember being in the woods and somebody would say like, I saw something

00:52:38.760 and then you would run the fear that went, you didn't see anything.

00:52:42.140 Somebody did and they started to leave and suddenly you were alone.

00:52:45.040 Even if you were one step alone in the woods from your friend, it was like.

00:52:48.960 Like, it's going to get me.

00:52:50.560 There was like this.

00:52:51.060 The unknown.

00:52:51.520 Oh.

00:52:52.360 Yeah.

00:52:52.740 I was the best.

00:52:53.800 I grew up in Virginia and it was a neighborhood that was like brand new.

00:52:56.620 It was like in the eighties.

00:52:58.220 And like, so it was all woods and stuff and all construction.

00:53:01.000 It was all like, they were just building one of those big subdivisions.

00:53:03.360 And we were like one of the first houses in there.

00:53:05.520 And so me and my friends would just have like the run of that place.

00:53:07.860 I mean, we were constantly doing that.

00:53:09.060 But there was like this one construction site and we were young.

00:53:11.500 This is probably like fourth or fifth grade.

00:53:12.720 And we would just like go there at nighttime and just like take all their lumber and their

00:53:16.940 shit and go make ramps and go build tree houses.

00:53:19.480 And there was this one house that we kept doing it to and there was a construction site.

00:53:23.600 We built like a tree fort with all the wood.

00:53:25.500 And I guess the guys who were building the house found out where it was at.

00:53:28.500 And we came out to our tree fort and they had like ripped everything down.

00:53:31.360 They had like taken it all down.

00:53:32.560 So then that next day we went to that place and we fucking destroyed that house.

00:53:36.760 We took cinder blocks and threw it through the walls.

00:53:39.380 We were like these fourth graders thinking we're just going to show these guys what's up.

00:53:42.520 Wow.

00:53:43.220 There's some family that has to stay at home.

00:53:45.620 I know.

00:53:46.000 Just no sense.

00:53:47.040 But it was like we took it personally.

00:53:48.380 Like we stole that lumber fair and square.

00:53:51.860 These motherfuckers.

00:53:52.660 They're going to fuck.

00:53:53.320 On our Diamondback, you know, freestyle bikes, our BMX bikes, just thinking we ran that shit.

00:53:59.500 Yeah.

00:53:59.640 Dude, I was trying to – oh, we had a glitter – I don't know if it was a glitter truck.

00:54:03.920 I think it was a glitter truck that toppled over like in the interstate near us.

00:54:06.840 And it was like – and it was like kind of, I guess, a windy time of year.

00:54:10.580 And our fucking town had glitter in the area for two years.

00:54:14.920 In your lungs, everywhere.

00:54:16.320 I mean, you fucking – yeah, you couldn't even – you just – you'd meet somebody and half of them would fucking –

00:54:21.820 They're shining.

00:54:22.680 It's crazy, dude.

00:54:24.600 Those are good days.

00:54:25.860 It is crazy how if you have a construction site, if you're building a house,

00:54:28.320 if any kids in the neighborhood, you – they – all they do is get in there and break shit.

00:54:33.120 They have no concept of like someone's paid money for this.

00:54:36.320 Someone's waiting to move their family in.

00:54:38.320 It just is looked at as like this is – this doesn't matter.

00:54:41.840 No one lives here so we can do what we want.

00:54:45.080 God, those are the best times, man.

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00:57:59.000 Yeah, that's the stuff that I think sometimes about getting older.

00:58:01.740 Do you ever start to think like that you only get to do so many things?

00:58:05.020 Does that start to become a thing in your head at all?

00:58:06.680 I mean, you've been, you know, so proclivative or whatever it's called.

00:58:11.020 Prophylactics.

00:58:11.740 Prophylactics, yeah.

00:58:12.340 You've been so prophylactics, you know.

00:58:14.160 So, and, but do you ever start to think about that?

00:58:17.100 Like, shit, I got to, you know, or is it kind of like, I know I've had a good amount of time to make what I've wanted.

00:58:23.040 I, you know, I sense it with my kids.

00:58:25.360 You know, when I was living out here in Los Angeles, like we lived up off of Mulholland.

00:58:28.660 And my son was like, you know, he was, you know, he was like in kindergarten.

00:58:34.180 He's starting to like, you know, he's like, I want to learn to ride a bike.

00:58:37.720 And I'm like, why?

00:58:38.520 You're never going to be able to like ride a bike up here on Mulholland, you know.

00:58:41.520 And I started seeing that.

00:58:42.380 I'm like, oh, he's not going to have the same experiences I had.

00:58:45.600 That level of freedom of just kind of like coming home from school, dropping your book bag off and just like taking off until the sun went down.

00:58:51.720 And that stuff is important, you know, that little bit of independence.

00:58:56.160 I kind of kept feeling like every time he got to play with somebody, there was always like me and my wife having to like orchestrate it and sit there in the background watching them play.

00:59:04.560 And, you know, that was kind of honestly like the main reason why I wanted to move back to the south is I kind of wanted to go somewhere where he could, you know, unleash.

00:59:13.880 He could get on a bike and have a little bit of freedom and kind of have that, you know.

00:59:17.400 It feels like you can always move to the big city, but it's definitely harder if you're a city boy to kind of like go back, you know, go somewhere small.

00:59:24.860 So I kind of wanted them to have a little bit of that sort of life, a little taste of that, you know.

00:59:31.020 And, you know, because like you said, it goes by quick, you know.

00:59:33.920 It's pretty soon, you know.

00:59:35.540 You can't just go destroy a construction site without ending up in prison.

00:59:39.040 You know, I wanted him to be able to go destroy some construction sites and just get a slap on the wrist.

00:59:44.120 Yeah, some drywall.

00:59:45.080 Yeah, I want him to fucking beat up some drywall.

00:59:48.400 Yeah, I moved to Nashville a few years ago, and I like it over there.

00:59:51.920 I just live in like a regular neighborhood.

00:59:53.220 My neighbors are just like a soccer coach.

00:59:55.920 It's like just it's neat, you know.

00:59:57.620 I like it.

00:59:58.160 It's more peaceful.

00:59:58.820 It feels just like a very small city.

01:00:02.820 Yeah, Nashville's fun.

01:00:03.660 I like it down there.

01:00:04.300 I think it's cool.

01:00:05.020 It's fun over there, definitely.

01:00:06.740 And, yeah, it's like Chattanooga's fucking great.

01:00:08.740 You've been there?

01:00:09.300 I haven't been there.

01:00:10.220 God, dude.

01:00:11.000 It's fun, huh?

01:00:11.900 Yeah, it's just like there's like mountains, whitewater rafting.

01:00:14.640 It's almost everything you wish was in Nashville that isn't.

01:00:18.300 Yeah.

01:00:18.440 And it's smaller, feels good.

01:00:20.280 Oh, I got to go over there.

01:00:21.220 I'd never even been to Nashville until we moved to Charleston.

01:00:23.720 I think my wife and I were just like looking for what was a quick trip away.

01:00:27.460 And Nashville is so close that we saw it.

01:00:29.480 But I think it's fun down there.

01:00:30.600 So Chattanooga, though, I got to check that out.

01:00:32.360 Chattanooga's beautiful, man.

01:00:33.180 And they have this beautiful walking bridge where you walk.

01:00:35.540 It's like it used to be a bridge, but they shut it down or whatever because it couldn't bridge anymore or whatever.

01:00:39.880 So basically it's just like a –

01:00:41.020 It stopped bridging?

01:00:41.920 Yeah.

01:00:42.200 It's just like a brave road really at that point.

01:00:44.880 But they turned it into a walking bridge.

01:00:47.480 And so they built like a newer one next to it.

01:00:50.380 But it's – yeah, but just the whole area is awesome, man.

01:00:52.580 It's beautiful.

01:00:53.520 They have a place called Lookout Mountain there where you can see like seven states or something from it.

01:00:57.100 A lot of Civil War shit if you're big into Civil War reenactments and shit like my buddy's dad used to referee those and shit.

01:01:03.360 So we'd go watch those a lot and like – so I love that kind of shit.

01:01:07.600 Me too.

01:01:07.900 I love a fucking cannon, dude.

01:01:09.580 I love Civil War stuff too.

01:01:10.880 I grew up in – after we left California, I grew up – I spent most of my time in Fredericksburg, Virginia.

01:01:17.380 So there's a ton of Civil War stuff there.

01:01:19.500 Yeah.

01:01:19.980 In my backyard, I'd find like Civil War bullets and stuff.

01:01:22.740 I mean we were all – it was – that stuff loomed heavily over my childhood just because it was so close.

01:01:28.420 I mean I even have a buddy that his old man would put on night vision goggles and go out to the National Park battlefields and go metal detecting because that's a federal crime.

01:01:38.220 You're not allowed to go do that shit.

01:01:40.200 And he would go out there and just like outrun those park rangers and just get bullets and bayonets and like all this stuff.

01:01:46.360 We'd always like play around with all that stuff in his garage.

01:01:48.600 It's kind of amazing.

01:01:49.500 He's writing his dad in prison.

01:01:51.260 Dear Dad, thanks for the rusty bayonet.

01:01:54.540 It was worth every minute.

01:01:55.780 Bro, that shit was a big part of growing up in the South.

01:01:57.960 Somebody would be like, dude, they found arrowheads on our property.

01:02:01.600 Rusty shit.

01:02:02.380 They found a fucking canteen from 70 years ago.

01:02:06.260 That was a huge thing about growing up in the South.

01:02:08.480 It is.

01:02:08.880 My buddy who still lives back there, I went to go visit him a few years ago and we were supposed to catch up.

01:02:15.400 In Virginia?

01:02:15.660 In Virginia.

01:02:16.140 Yeah, we were going to catch up downtown for a few beers and he's like, hey man, come back behind the high school here.

01:02:21.260 He's like, I want to show you something.

01:02:23.820 Uh-oh, here we go.

01:02:25.380 But I went back behind the school and we kind of like walked down to the woods and we come down there and he's found this place that he's like completely like roped off like it was an archaeological dig site.

01:02:37.220 And I'm like, what the fuck is going on back here?

01:02:39.460 And he's like, man, I think I found like an old Indian camp here.

01:02:43.200 And he started showing me all this shit that he had found.

01:02:45.220 It was like weird like pottery and arrowheads and all this stuff.

01:02:49.320 And it was amazing.

01:02:50.300 He found it on his own.

01:02:51.060 And he was just like, yeah, man, if you – there's so much of that stuff here that basically if you just like look for some place that had like access to water and had a lot of sunlight during the course of the day, that nine times out of ten, somebody would have saw that as a place to set up camp.

01:03:05.140 And then you start digging around and it's all under there.

01:03:07.780 And like, man, it was cool.

01:03:09.120 But it made me start looking at it everywhere a little differently.

01:03:11.880 Yeah.

01:03:12.100 It was cool.

01:03:13.440 Yeah, dude.

01:03:14.060 They had a guy who hid treasure.

01:03:15.520 Do you see that?

01:03:16.160 He hid treasure for like ten years.

01:03:17.660 Somebody finally found it.

01:03:19.060 Oh, wow.

01:03:19.560 He hid a couple million dollar treasure and it finally got found a few years ago.

01:03:22.400 He made like a treasure – like a story about it.

01:03:25.300 Oh, gotcha.

01:03:25.960 So he had like a little like put a call out.

01:03:27.700 Scavenger hunt.

01:03:28.260 And people looked for it a few years.

01:03:29.180 A couple people died looking for it.

01:03:30.560 Oh, that's sick.

01:03:31.340 God, I used to always want to look for bodies on the side of the interstate.

01:03:33.980 That's my big thing.

01:03:34.960 Oh, you were just trying to make a sequel to Stand By Me?

01:03:37.500 Just trying to find Browers, Flowers, whatever the fuck his name was.

01:03:41.500 Yeah.

01:03:41.640 Yeah, Stand By I-65 is what it's going to be called.

01:03:44.660 But, yeah, that's something that I always wanted to do.

01:03:47.700 I want to ask you about your kids before you leave.

01:03:49.100 What's something that you admire about your children if you're okay talking about your children?

01:03:53.140 Yeah, of course.

01:03:55.080 You know, I just –

01:03:55.600 Because it's cool for you to leave for the – you know, that one of the reasons you wanted to leave that was for them.

01:03:58.640 It's kind of neat.

01:03:59.100 Like, you know, to be able to make – do choices like that, like with social media, just like to make kind of like choices that are for the betterment of yourself or others is pretty – it's harder to do these days than I think people think.

01:04:10.380 So it's something that – it seems pretty neat that you're able to do.

01:04:14.000 But, yeah, go on.

01:04:14.660 Yeah, well, you know, like I said, my wife is from Los Angeles.

01:04:18.140 She grew up here.

01:04:18.720 So she had never really lived outside of California.

01:04:21.380 And I liked L.A.

01:04:22.740 I liked living here.

01:04:23.540 I had a blast.

01:04:24.180 But, yeah, once I had kids, it wasn't like I thought they would have like a terrible childhood growing up here.

01:04:28.720 But I just knew that there were going to be certain things that they wouldn't be exposed to that I just thought would be useful for them to be exposed to.

01:04:34.780 And my wife and I, we headed down to Charleston for a long weekend to kind of like just take a look at it without the kids and just sort of like could we do this?

01:04:43.500 Like could we make a run at this?

01:04:44.980 What are we going to do?

01:04:45.640 And we had looked at some houses and then we were kind of sitting in this bar just having a drink, kind of like writing down on a napkin like the pluses and minuses, like how realistic it would be.

01:04:55.860 And I remember looking out the window and there was like a group of probably, you know, 10 kids, like probably between the ages of like 7 and 15 on skateboards and bikes and jean shorts, no shirts, carrying fishing poles, not a parent in sight.

01:05:09.280 And I was like, yeah, we got to move here.

01:05:11.080 Like this is like exactly what I want our kids to be able to do is just that.

01:05:14.640 I want them to be able to like be free to kind of like explore the world and to see things without having to worry about them so much.

01:05:21.160 And so that was cool.

01:05:22.840 And I mean, my kids are just, I don't know, my daughter is like insanely funny.

01:05:27.680 She's like, she's 10 years old and she is.

01:05:30.200 I mean, like, I mean, honestly, like before she even talked, she was giving people the bird, flicking people off.

01:05:35.020 Like I channel her in that character, Judy, the sister in Righteous Gemstone.

01:05:41.840 You do?

01:05:42.160 I do.

01:05:42.540 I channel my daughter in that a lot of times.

01:05:45.200 Dude, I got to interview that lady one time.

01:05:47.020 She's the most talented.

01:05:48.420 She's the best.

01:05:49.100 Edie's amazing.

01:05:50.780 That's so funny that you would channel even like a child.

01:05:53.900 Yes.

01:05:54.520 And Edie and my daughter have a very special relationship.

01:05:57.760 Edie calls it that they're in the bad girls club.

01:06:00.180 And so every time Edie talks to my daughter, she'll be like bad girls club.

01:06:03.780 And we'll give her a high five.

01:06:06.040 But yeah, my daughter came by the set this year and there was a dead body on the set, not a real one.

01:06:15.120 And there was like fake blood and she was like kind of obsessed with like, what is this?

01:06:19.360 There's fake blood?

01:06:20.100 Like, what is that?

01:06:20.800 And I started realizing, oh man, yeah, she doesn't have any concept of what this is or what I do when I leave.

01:06:26.200 And she kind of got really obsessed with this idea of fake blood.

01:06:31.180 And our props master gave her this big tub of like, you know, fake movie blood.

01:06:36.980 Oh, that's great.

01:06:37.400 And she uses it all the time.

01:06:39.180 Really?

01:06:39.620 She'll call us in and she'll be like laying in the shower with like blood coming out of her belly button and out of her neck and pretending to be she's a sicko.

01:06:47.620 So, yeah, it seems like things are going good over there.

01:06:51.800 But I would, dude, my brother, so my dad was like real old when I was born.

01:06:55.220 My dad was 70.

01:06:55.940 He was an older man, you know.

01:06:58.100 And so my brother used to do this thing.

01:07:00.320 I've talked about it before on my comedy show, but he'd be like dad's dead.

01:07:04.900 He'd come in the room, right?

01:07:06.740 That was his bit.

01:07:07.820 Because dad was like, you know, dad would be 79.

01:07:09.960 Dad's dead.

01:07:10.960 He'd come in.

01:07:11.540 I'd be doing something.

01:07:12.220 He'd be like dad's dead.

01:07:13.840 And I'm like, you know, the first time I was like, no, no.

01:07:17.680 And I'd go in there and he would be alive, right?

01:07:20.860 And then it got to this is where I knew this is when something I think got weird maybe in my head because I would be like, he better fucking be dead or I'm going to beat your ass, right?

01:07:31.460 It became like just the whole juxtaposition of that little thing in my head.

01:07:36.860 Like if I'm going to get up now.

01:07:39.080 I better see a dead body.

01:07:40.460 I'm going to be pissed off.

01:07:41.940 And then look, you got older and you did that to other people by telling people Jay Leno was dead.

01:07:46.240 That's true.

01:07:47.560 You helped spread that trauma.

01:07:52.700 Yeah, dude.

01:07:53.340 I love that kind of stuff.

01:07:54.760 I just, yeah, there was something so much fun about being young.

01:07:57.440 And Michael Landon was supposed to come to our town one time and meet people at the fair.

01:08:00.340 And my mom got all dressed up and went and he didn't come.

01:08:02.300 Oh, that's a bummer.

01:08:03.320 That was a heartbreak.

01:08:04.000 Is that why you have that Michael Landon cutout there?

01:08:06.180 Yeah, we like to have that.

01:08:07.320 I'm a big Highway to Heaven fan.

01:08:08.520 I'm a big Victor French fan.

01:08:10.340 You kind of look like a young Victor French, actually.

01:08:12.460 I'll take that.

01:08:12.640 I loved Highway to Heaven.

01:08:13.780 God.

01:08:14.040 That was good.

01:08:14.740 It was so good.

01:08:15.300 I wouldn't have pegged you for a Highway to Heaven fan.

01:08:17.120 That's good to know.

01:08:17.800 Oh, yeah.

01:08:18.220 Yeah.

01:08:18.800 Dude, I was, yeah, we grew up on that.

01:08:20.660 TBS.

01:08:21.380 Now, like the Olsons.

01:08:22.800 Oh, yeah, look at him.

01:08:23.540 Yeah, dude.

01:08:24.900 Yeah, he's a good dude.

01:08:25.920 Look at that.

01:08:27.580 Yeah, I could, that's very you.

01:08:30.120 I think we could do that.

01:08:31.160 I could see you being Michael Landon.

01:08:32.560 I think we could, let's redo Highway to Heaven.

01:08:34.580 That's the next thing.

01:08:36.060 Let's do it, dude.

01:08:37.080 We'll call Highway to Hell.

01:08:38.340 How about that?

01:08:39.900 Yeah, dude.

01:08:40.540 It would be just one off-ramp.

01:08:43.680 Yeah, we just meet people and ruin their lives.

01:08:45.620 That's what we do.

01:08:48.540 It reminds me of the movie Family Man.

01:08:50.000 Have you seen that movie?

01:08:51.060 Which one is that?

01:08:51.700 With Nicolas Cage.

01:08:52.420 It's a Christmas movie.

01:08:53.300 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:08:54.080 It's been a long time.

01:08:54.860 But, yes, I remember that film.

01:08:56.020 I love that movie, dude.

01:08:57.260 That's one of my favorites.

01:08:58.600 The first movie I ever saw, I think, was, yeah, that's it right there.

01:09:01.580 Did you ever get to work with Nicolas Cage?

01:09:03.160 I haven't, but I'm such a fan of his, man.

01:09:05.600 He's so awesome.

01:09:06.400 Yeah, he seems so interesting.

01:09:07.700 Yeah, and that little turn he had in Long Legs last year, I mean, how scary is that?

01:09:13.380 Dark Arts.

01:09:14.120 Dark Arts, yes.

01:09:15.460 Satan shit.

01:09:16.260 Yeah, dude.

01:09:16.880 I think we need more of it.

01:09:18.460 You know what I'm saying?

01:09:19.540 That's definitely what I think.

01:09:20.400 When I look at the state of the world, I feel like what the world needs now is more devil.

01:09:24.860 Let's fucking party, dude.

01:09:26.420 Let's amp this bitch up.

01:09:28.180 Was there ever something weird, like once you started making some money?

01:09:30.500 Because making money is an interesting thing, right?

01:09:32.620 Some people really get into it, and that's their thing.

01:09:35.100 But it's like, were there ever a team that you wanted to invest in or some interesting

01:09:40.040 thing that somebody might consider?

01:09:43.220 Was there anything like that for you?

01:09:44.620 Man, I don't think I have ever, I mean, I think growing up without any money, it's like

01:09:49.100 the moment you get your hands on some, you just try to sock it away because you're thinking

01:09:52.740 they're coming to take it at any moment.

01:09:55.420 Oh, yeah.

01:09:55.860 So I need to start being a little bit more ambitious with my spending, though, and just

01:10:00.400 relax a little bit, probably.

01:10:02.280 Yeah, that time I'm just scared.

01:10:03.540 It's like, well, what if, yeah, it's just scary.

01:10:05.860 And then also, what do I really want?

01:10:08.060 Yeah.

01:10:08.540 You know?

01:10:09.840 I think I want to start like a halfway house, but that makes clothing, too, dude.

01:10:13.340 Oh, yeah.

01:10:13.700 Put those fuckers to work.

01:10:14.980 Be like, this shirt's dope.

01:10:17.340 That's kind of a dumb joke, but thank you for laughing at that.

01:10:19.220 I like it.

01:10:19.720 I like it.

01:10:20.120 It is dope.

01:10:20.720 Thanks, dude.

01:10:21.260 Yeah, what was something else that I was thinking about?

01:10:24.620 Because I'll never see you again, but I was just trying to think of what it is.

01:10:26.740 You don't think we'll ever see each other again?

01:10:27.920 Is this it?

01:10:28.420 No, it'd be awesome if we did.

01:10:29.980 I feel like we might.

01:10:31.240 Do you get impressed by a lot of the stuff that you see out there?

01:10:36.520 Like, do you get inspired?

01:10:37.420 Like, you'll see a movie, you'll see something, and I'm like, it makes you want to keep making

01:10:40.760 more?

01:10:41.060 Do you think you'll take a little bit of a break?

01:10:42.340 What do you kind of think?

01:10:43.040 Are you already have something you're making next?

01:10:44.520 No, I think I'm going to take a little bit of a break.

01:10:46.080 Like I said earlier, my hobby is basically writing and creating, so I'm sure I won't

01:10:51.780 stop that, but it takes a lot to make something like this.

01:10:54.520 Gemstones, I've been on this now for seven years of working on this thing full time, and

01:10:59.440 I'm looking forward to just chilling out for a little bit and spending time with the

01:11:03.540 fam, but as soon as you start doing that, then you'll get an idea for something else.

01:11:07.440 And so I feel like I'll always want to make stuff, but it's also good to just enjoy your

01:11:11.520 life a little bit, too, and not be so worried all the time about what's going to be next

01:11:15.120 and just kind of take it easy.

01:11:16.740 Yeah, I get definitely caught up, like I have to do this or this, but then sometimes

01:11:20.500 I do start to notice a little bit more, like I want to chill out, because I want to give

01:11:23.880 my brain time to think, so it's fun for me.

01:11:26.040 Yeah, so it can heal.

01:11:28.260 Yeah, that used to be the most fun, dude, when your brain gives you an idea and it just

01:11:32.060 makes you laugh, you're by yourself or whatever.

01:11:34.080 Totally, yeah, and then you've got to share it.

01:11:37.100 What about your son?

01:11:37.960 You said about your daughter.

01:11:38.760 What about your son?

01:11:39.880 My son, he's just gotten into lacrosse.

01:11:41.740 You know, Tony Cavalero, actually, he's helped us out.

01:11:44.340 Tony Cavalero is a big deal in the lacrosse world.

01:11:46.640 I don't know if you knew this or not.

01:11:47.320 I didn't know that at all.

01:11:48.080 Yeah, he's a big deal, and my son has shown an interest in it, so Tony has kind of pushed

01:11:53.820 us in the right direction of getting him into a cool team, and that lacrosse shit is pretty

01:11:58.520 cool, man.

01:11:59.120 Yeah.

01:11:59.620 I've been with him through all his different interests of sports, from baseball to football,

01:12:04.660 and you go on to those little parks and rec teams, and it's always just some kid's

01:12:09.740 dad coaching, you know.

01:12:12.480 Oh, yeah.

01:12:12.720 The lacrosse shit, though, is like, the coaches are young.

01:12:15.560 They're like athletes right out of college.

01:12:17.640 I feel like the kids just respond to them in a different way than they do somebody's dad.

01:12:21.280 You know, it's cool.

01:12:21.920 It's good to watch.

01:12:23.160 Huh.

01:12:24.120 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:12:25.200 I've never heard anybody even talk about that, except for this girl, Mubi, that works

01:12:28.760 with Barstool Sports.

01:12:29.820 She played lacrosse, so I would see her.

01:12:32.360 Oh, one of my friends from New York would talk about it sometimes.

01:12:35.740 Yeah, I didn't know anything about it at all, and then I watched it, and I'm like,

01:12:38.260 this shit is hardcore.

01:12:39.280 I mean, they, like, knock each other down on the ground, hit each other with these sticks,

01:12:42.680 and I was surprised my son was even into it.

01:12:44.880 I saw him getting out there swacking people.

01:12:46.620 I'm like, oh, damn, here we go.

01:12:48.300 What does he admire about it, you think?

01:12:51.300 I don't know, man.

01:12:51.960 I think that the stick is pretty cool, but, you know, you got those pads.

01:12:54.940 The gear is pretty awesome, but, I mean, it is a pretty rough and tumble sport.

01:12:59.260 Is there ever moments?

01:13:02.020 And you can.

01:13:02.580 Like that, you just knock the shit out of people and knock them on the ground.

01:13:06.020 It's like, and you see kids doing that.

01:13:08.200 You see them doing it, and you're like, oh, you're allowed to do that.

01:13:10.920 They don't stop it or anything.

01:13:11.880 That's, like, part of the game.

01:13:12.900 It's kind of, it's pretty badass.

01:13:15.060 Boom, look at that.

01:13:15.900 I've seen a 10-year-old do that to another 10-year-old.

01:13:18.520 God, that's beautiful.

01:13:20.140 God, you got to stop and drink that.

01:13:23.880 Is it interesting whenever you see your kid, like, say you take him to lacrosse and he likes it,

01:13:27.600 is it interesting that you learn something about him by watching him start to like something?

01:13:31.440 Totally.

01:13:32.220 Yeah, you start trying to think.

01:13:33.400 I mean, you know, parents are probably, the worst thing you can do is kind of like always push your kids into what you're into and expect that.

01:13:40.600 You know, using their childhood as a way to kind of like work out all your demons.

01:13:44.940 It's like, I try not to do that with my kids.

01:13:48.020 Like, I don't even think my kids even like movies.

01:13:49.560 You know, it's like I've tried to, like, have movie nights with them and stuff and they're like, yeah, we're good.

01:13:53.340 They don't, they don't, they don't see it.

01:13:56.260 You're like, you're part of that dying art form.

01:13:57.860 I got no interest.

01:13:58.840 I want to watch Mr. Beast.

01:14:00.180 I want to watch them Beast Squid Games.

01:14:02.140 Yeah, dude.

01:14:02.580 That shit is pretty good, some of it.

01:14:03.880 It is good.

01:14:04.920 He, they, I like, I like all that shit that they watch.

01:14:08.280 I think it's fun.

01:14:08.840 There's that one kid, I think his name is Ryan Trainor or something.

01:14:12.000 He does, like, the stuff where he has, like, 10 cents and he tries to, like, make money to get across the country.

01:14:17.640 I haven't seen him.

01:14:18.260 Pull him up, Ryan Trainor.

01:14:19.440 I think that's his name.

01:14:21.140 But I like this stuff, dude.

01:14:22.520 I like watching.

01:14:23.060 I'm like, no wonder y'all aren't watching movies, man.

01:14:24.860 You guys are, you guys have this all dialed in.

01:14:28.300 Yeah, he'll, like, start with, like, a penny and, like, figure out a way to get across the country with just starting with that.

01:14:33.740 Well, I've never, oh, Ryan Trahan.

01:14:35.620 Trahan, that's what it is.

01:14:36.580 I've never even heard of this.

01:14:38.200 And it's crazy.

01:14:38.960 This has, so this video has 60 million views, right?

01:14:41.160 Like, it's crazy how much is out there that you've never even heard of and you'll be exposed.

01:14:45.360 You'll be like, oh, this is amazing.

01:14:47.020 Yeah, it's really cool.

01:14:48.280 Wow.

01:14:48.740 I'd like to meet this kid.

01:14:50.200 There's a guy, there's these kids, Colby and Sam, that are, like, these ghost hunter kids I want to get to meet.

01:14:54.880 It's, I was never brave enough to vlog.

01:14:57.420 We just had some streamers in, and that lifestyle is insane, man.

01:15:01.280 Eight hours in a row.

01:15:02.440 It's wild, huh?

01:15:03.480 Dude, Dan, think about that.

01:15:04.440 Eight hours, right?

01:15:05.820 And you have to be yourself, so you can't really hide who you are at all.

01:15:09.180 So, but, and then you have to go home.

01:15:11.600 Yep.

01:15:11.980 And then come back and it's.

01:15:13.180 And do it all over again.

01:15:14.340 I know.

01:15:14.900 It takes a different type of brain to do that.

01:15:16.820 That's what they like, though, I think.

01:15:17.940 I mean, he watches kids play video games.

01:15:20.720 And I try to get my head around that.

01:15:22.120 I'm like, but you know what?

01:15:23.140 I do remember being a kid, like, over at your friend's house, sitting around the couch, watching somebody try to beat a game.

01:15:28.380 And it was, this shit was fun.

01:15:29.540 Yeah.

01:15:29.760 You know?

01:15:30.520 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:15:31.280 I guess they're just not doing it maybe together as much, but maybe they are.

01:15:35.040 I don't know.

01:15:35.380 It could, this could be a phase in time.

01:15:38.120 I mean, we would go play at the church parking lot, dude.

01:15:41.520 Anybody that would answer the door on the way down the street, it was three or four blocks to get down there.

01:15:46.140 If you answered the fucking door, you were playing defense, right?

01:15:48.880 So we would knock on the doors about 3.40 in the afternoon, walk down there.

01:15:53.560 And there was a hole.

01:15:54.760 Somebody, I don't know who put it out there, like the devil or whatever.

01:15:57.480 But in the field, they had a field in front of the church off of Highway 190 over there in Covington.

01:16:02.880 And sometimes every two years, somebody would step into the hole and break their leg or ankle.

01:16:07.560 Perfect.

01:16:07.900 That's what it was there for.

01:16:09.340 Yeah, that's it, dude.

01:16:10.840 That's a fucking free safety, bitch.

01:16:12.680 That's what that is.

01:16:14.260 That was crazy, though.

01:16:16.200 But, yeah, if you answered the door, you had to come play, man.

01:16:18.880 And we would get on our bikes, and we would ride.

01:16:20.960 They had, like, a ride probably about a mile and a half over this place called Pat's Shrimp and Video, right?

01:16:26.680 Ooh, I like that.

01:16:27.540 You get a bag of shrimp, right?

01:16:29.220 It wasn't all you could eat, but it was, like, all they could put in the bag.

01:16:32.360 And you would get to rent a movie, dude.

01:16:34.340 I love that.

01:16:35.240 God, dude.

01:16:36.580 Terminator, we get.

01:16:37.360 I miss the video store, don't you?

01:16:38.220 I miss that stuff.

01:16:39.020 That was fun.

01:16:40.460 There was nothing.

01:16:41.880 Dude, I went to the last Blockbuster in Oregon probably two years ago.

01:16:46.100 And these are the things I found fascinating about it.

01:16:48.080 For one, you're not just stuck with what the platform, like the app or whatever we look on it now, Netflix, et cetera, is putting in front of you, like those 10 or 12 movies at a time.

01:16:58.320 You get to kind of consciously wander.

01:17:01.180 And you're like, oh, I forgot about this movie, right?

01:17:04.520 Oh, what?

01:17:05.300 No way.

01:17:05.880 He was in that.

01:17:06.520 They did a movie together.

01:17:07.460 You see all of these fronts of movies.

01:17:09.280 You'll see 300 of them while you're in there.

01:17:11.060 And you'll be like, drama, I'll do with that, you know, like different ones, like diabetes is a section.

01:17:17.680 Some of the sections have gotten a little bit more casual than before.

01:17:21.280 Pretty specific, yes.

01:17:22.840 I'm going to get me a good diabetes movie this weekend.

01:17:25.140 This is what I want to watch.

01:17:26.040 Yeah, I want to see these lactose intolerant films, whatever.

01:17:30.300 But it's a totally different experience than it was.

01:17:33.760 It's in Bend, Oregon, which is a great place.

01:17:35.700 Only about four, five nice months out of the year at all, though, to be honest with you.

01:17:39.680 A lot of bad stuff.

01:17:40.080 That's why they got that blockbuster still in business, man.

01:17:42.960 They needed it.

01:17:43.620 But your brain would be like, oh, what do you – and you talk with your friend, what do you think about this?

01:17:47.080 You kind of discuss it to – it just like – it was much more – it was so much different than, oh, I'm just going to pick one off of here.

01:17:55.860 It didn't even feel the same.

01:17:57.020 I think movies needed it.

01:17:58.280 I do.

01:17:58.740 I think that like when you have access to all of it, it makes all of it not that special.

01:18:02.420 And I think, weirdly, there was something about like if you went to the video store and you wanted to see a movie and it wasn't in, it made you instantly think that that movie was a bigger deal than anything.

01:18:13.660 And then like when you finally got it, you would have all this other stuff invested in like, you know, wow, I'm so lucky I got Under Siege.

01:18:21.700 It's here.

01:18:22.460 It's in my house.

01:18:23.600 Steven Seagal, was he in that?

01:18:24.900 He was, yeah.

01:18:25.780 Fuck yeah, dude.

01:18:26.780 Van Damme, when I was growing up, that shit was blood sport.

01:18:29.700 I can't believe that that's a genre that doesn't really exist.

01:18:33.140 You're just like, are there no like 20-year-olds who know martial arts that are good-looking that can just whip ass and be action heroes?

01:18:40.680 Like what is going on?

01:18:41.580 People don't want to see that anymore?

01:18:42.760 That's a great point.

01:18:44.360 Yeah, a lot of – yeah, that kind of stuff doesn't exist.

01:18:46.220 I just watched Interstellar the other day.

01:18:47.620 That was cool.

01:18:49.920 But yeah, that genre doesn't exist, man.

01:18:52.560 Garbage pill, kids' cards, we ride and get those bitches.

01:18:55.540 Yeah, that stuff was good.

01:18:56.560 That's good living.

01:18:57.420 Oh, you'd get your ass beat.

01:18:58.840 Did you just sit there watching Highway to Heaven?

01:19:01.860 That's us, dude.

01:19:02.760 We got this.

01:19:04.060 I don't know, dude.

01:19:05.020 Yeah, dude.

01:19:05.460 Look at that.

01:19:06.160 Look at that.

01:19:07.500 Yeah.

01:19:07.920 I look like I've obviously done some cocaine and you look like –

01:19:12.120 Yeah, that looks like me, unfortunately.

01:19:14.960 Yeah, and that looks like you.

01:19:17.320 That looks like me after I've watched some of them diabetes films.

01:19:20.340 Yeah, I know.

01:19:21.460 Got a little too deep into it.

01:19:22.940 You'll be the Wilford Brimley, dude.

01:19:24.400 That's right.

01:19:24.840 Dude, my dad bought this car off like some kind of blackish, kind of black guys that live by us.

01:19:30.280 And it was like some guys that were in the culture with the big speakers in the car.

01:19:34.200 And at that time, it was white and black guys that had speakers in the trunk.

01:19:37.420 But he bought a Cutlass off of them and he would listen to like Paul Harvey and shit like in his car.

01:19:41.640 And it would just blast this bass in there.

01:19:43.720 Just low bass for no reason.

01:19:45.400 Paul Harvey.

01:19:47.020 Yeah.

01:19:47.700 That's how it was in my high school too.

01:19:49.380 It was like all the – you could count that any kid who had like the shittiest car would have just straight up stadium speakers in the back.

01:19:56.760 Unreal.

01:19:57.220 Every screw rattling in the car.

01:19:59.840 Fucking unreal, dude.

01:20:02.420 That was so much fun, man.

01:20:04.200 Being alive has been fun, huh?

01:20:05.680 Yeah, not too bad.

01:20:06.960 We'll see.

01:20:07.540 It's been an adventure.

01:20:08.820 Do you like parenting?

01:20:09.740 Is it something that you really enjoy doing?

01:20:11.500 Do you kind of like – was that something that you – what is something surprising that you found about parenting?

01:20:15.860 And then we'll get you out of here.

01:20:18.540 Man, you know, I do like it.

01:20:20.180 I think it's fun.

01:20:20.860 You know what's fun about it, man, is like I try to stay pretty involved in my kids' lives.

01:20:24.920 Like I don't want to – I know it goes by quick and I don't want to like miss it all and then have all these regrets, you know,

01:20:30.500 when my kids don't want to talk to me when they're all grown.

01:20:32.740 I try to take my kids to school every morning.

01:20:34.560 But, you know, it was fun as they got into school, like going back – like walking in for a parent-teacher conference

01:20:42.260 and having to sit in those little chairs and talk to the teacher and be like, I forgot all about the shit.

01:20:46.580 And you just remember all these feelings and emotions of what comes around with the first day of school and I don't know.

01:20:52.700 It's kind of – and then just seeing childhood from this side of it and you kind of also realize how short it is.

01:20:58.860 You know, when I was a kid, I thought my parents' whole existence started when I began and, you know, that was their whole life.

01:21:04.220 And then you kind of realize, man, that time period was just a blink in the eye for them and it's the same.

01:21:08.840 I feel like it goes by so quick.

01:21:10.240 My son is like 13.

01:21:11.220 He's going to be in eighth grade next year.

01:21:13.300 And I already find myself just getting like sappy and sad, just like it's been a good run.

01:21:18.160 I've really enjoyed raising you.

01:21:21.800 Yeah, because I guess once they hit – like, yeah.

01:21:24.460 They don't need you as much.

01:21:25.500 I mean, already now it's like we – at nighttime, you know, we'll all sit down to hang and he'll be upstairs on the game or talk with his friends.

01:21:32.320 You kind of – it happens quick.

01:21:34.020 Damn.

01:21:34.380 Yeah.

01:21:34.620 Does it hurt a little bit?

01:21:35.460 You can't really express that to him because that's kind of weird, huh?

01:21:37.660 Yeah, it does hurt a little bit, but you also – it's good.

01:21:40.120 You know, you want him to be independent.

01:21:41.440 You don't want him just sitting there trying to suck off the teat, you know, for too long.

01:21:44.840 Yeah.

01:21:44.980 You need him to kind of get out there and want to spread those wings.

01:21:47.300 Yeah.

01:21:49.520 Have you ever wanted to pull off like a heist or something?

01:21:51.660 That's my last question for you.

01:21:52.800 Yeah, of course.

01:21:53.760 Who hasn't, man?

01:21:54.660 Who hasn't robbed somebody?

01:21:56.420 Yeah.

01:21:56.820 Fuck yeah.

01:21:57.380 I'm not even talking about a corporation.

01:21:58.820 I'm talking about just some sucker walking down the street with a nice watch on.

01:22:04.280 If you were to do a bank robbery, you had to go in there with a couple of guys.

01:22:07.000 Who do you bring in there with you, Danny?

01:22:09.380 Well, I think after this wonderful conversation, I feel like you'd be game.

01:22:13.920 I'd bring you in.

01:22:14.800 I'd bring Tony Cavallaro in.

01:22:16.100 Maybe you guys could confuse people by them not knowing who's who, you know.

01:22:20.200 That could be a good distraction.

01:22:21.260 I'd take the whole gang of righteous gemstones in there, man.

01:22:25.480 Even John Goodman, he can throw down.

01:22:28.960 I think we could take anybody.

01:22:30.040 We'd take all that money.

01:22:31.260 Well, he beat all that fat he had.

01:22:33.080 Yeah, he did.

01:22:33.880 He beat the shit out of that.

01:22:35.100 Yeah.

01:22:35.220 He sure did.

01:22:35.820 And John is such a massive dude.

01:22:38.220 He's so tall.

01:22:39.340 Is he really?

01:22:39.820 Yeah.

01:22:40.180 He's in a towering presence.

01:22:41.980 Well, he was a sped.

01:22:42.640 There was a rumor that he had lived in Bogalusa, Louisiana.

01:22:46.680 So he was always like one of these like rumored people that lived in the distance, you know.

01:22:50.680 So there was always a strong love for John Goodman from Louisiana area.

01:22:55.160 Yeah.

01:22:55.380 He's a really – I grew up always loving him.

01:22:58.140 Always.

01:22:59.040 And it was insane to be able to get to work with him on this show.

01:23:02.780 I just – it'll be one of the things I'll miss the most about making this show was getting to see him every season.

01:23:07.940 Really?

01:23:08.360 Yeah.

01:23:08.600 He was great.

01:23:09.340 Awesome.

01:23:10.640 What makes him so great?

01:23:11.880 I mean, obviously, he's a generational talent.

01:23:14.720 He's a father – you know, he's been a father to half of America over time.

01:23:18.740 He just – I mean, you look at him.

01:23:20.080 It's like he was making TV shows when TV wasn't cool, and he would still be able to go pop in and work with the Coen brothers.

01:23:27.000 And, you know, he just was doing his own thing and been doing it for this long and always funny, always good.

01:23:32.700 I mean, he never shows up in something, and it's not impressive.

01:23:36.100 And, yeah, it's funny.

01:23:37.300 Like even being an actor and looking around, you look at it and you're like most people have maybe a handful of years in them, you know.

01:23:44.000 Like you look at people and you really do.

01:23:46.060 Like I would think about actors that I saw in movies when I was a kid, and you'd kind of be like, oh, man, what happened to that person, you know.

01:23:53.340 Like you'd kind of look at their filmography and you're like, oh, man, most people only have a span of a few years, maybe even a decade.

01:23:59.500 And then they kind of disappear.

01:24:00.800 Good point.

01:24:01.280 Just like with your favorite sports players.

01:24:02.920 Yeah.

01:24:03.280 And then – but you look at a guy like Goodman and how long he's been working.

01:24:06.920 And you realize like that's no easy feat in that he stays relevant and he stays good and the stuff he chooses is cool and the roles he plays are cool.

01:24:15.940 It's, you know, it's admirable.

01:24:17.240 Yeah.

01:24:17.480 Yeah, yeah, Carol O'Connor is buried not far from my apartment in Westwood.

01:24:21.380 Oh, wow.

01:24:21.880 And I'll take people over there a lot of times if they're visiting in town or whatever.

01:24:26.740 And he's definitely one of my favorites because of In the Heat of the Night.

01:24:30.700 Oh, yeah.

01:24:31.680 God, that show is so good.

01:24:34.060 Oh, I like your TV picks, dude.

01:24:35.640 You're an In the Heat of the Night guy in Highway to Heaven.

01:24:39.820 Yeah, I just love – I love like kind of southern kind of – I just – yeah, I love those things, man.

01:24:44.980 Those are some of my favorites for sure.

01:24:47.360 But what was I going to – who was I – oh, Carol O'Connor.

01:24:50.620 Who else is buried there?

01:24:52.020 Marilyn Monroe.

01:24:53.240 Boom.

01:24:53.880 Same cemetery.

01:24:55.760 In the same coffin I hear.

01:24:57.420 Errol.

01:24:57.940 Yeah.

01:24:58.960 I heard she's working nights.

01:25:00.100 They doubled them up.

01:25:01.120 Yeah.

01:25:01.940 Errol Flynn.

01:25:02.920 I'm just going to keep advertising this place.

01:25:04.480 Errol Flynn.

01:25:04.920 Oh, Hugh Hefner is buried there also.

01:25:07.360 Walter Matthau.

01:25:08.640 Wow.

01:25:09.040 So anyway –

01:25:09.380 So which cemetery is this?

01:25:10.320 Is that Hollywood Forever Cemetery?

01:25:11.760 No, it's in fucking Westwood, dude.

01:25:13.700 You wouldn't even know it.

01:25:14.600 It's behind a building.

01:25:15.820 You're like, what the fuck?

01:25:17.400 It's like behind a Nextel building.

01:25:19.020 It does – there's no other like blocks of grass anywhere near it.

01:25:22.220 It's just like big buildings, tall, huge buildings.

01:25:24.740 And then there's this one little bitty – it's a – it's fucking 40 square yards.

01:25:30.340 Wow.

01:25:30.680 That's that.

01:25:31.160 Got some kings in that bitch.

01:25:32.540 A lot of Persians in there too.

01:25:33.580 A lot of names you can't really pronounce.

01:25:34.740 But that's it right there, dude.

01:25:36.140 Beautiful.

01:25:36.380 Walter Matthau's in that bitch, dude.

01:25:38.280 That's what's so crazy about L.A. is I feel like – L.A. has done a really shitty job

01:25:42.840 of like maintaining the history of this place.

01:25:45.140 You know, like I feel like every time I tried to rent an apartment back in the day,

01:25:48.040 everyone would tell you like, oh, Charlie Chaplin lived down the street.

01:25:50.300 Charlie Chaplin was here.

01:25:51.140 But you're like, you realize this shit is – it is – these people mean something

01:25:55.800 to people.

01:25:56.500 And the idea that like so much gets built and torn down, like I feel like you look at Hollywood

01:26:01.000 Boulevard and you're like, man, this should just be like Colonial Williamsburg.

01:26:04.080 This should be some shit where you just walk in and it looks exactly like it used to back

01:26:07.620 in the day.

01:26:07.940 That's a great point.

01:26:08.680 You know, it's like this is such a unique – there's such a unique history to this place

01:26:13.260 that, you know, it's kind of sad that all you can do is go to a little cemetery to

01:26:18.400 go see these things.

01:26:19.260 It would be kind of cool if you could walk in the same bars and restaurants they did.

01:26:23.220 Or you go by their apartment.

01:26:25.400 If you got to go by the apartment that Walter Matthau lived in.

01:26:28.800 Yeah, I think it would mean something to people.

01:26:30.920 It really would.

01:26:31.580 That's a good point.

01:26:32.140 I never thought about that.

01:26:33.440 Yeah, because you'll go like – we'll preserve some places.

01:26:35.540 Like Charleston preserves their history.

01:26:37.020 I like a lot of like – but yeah, Hollywood just kind of – Hollywood's never had much

01:26:40.620 of a memory kind of, I feel like.

01:26:42.420 It just –

01:26:43.040 Well, and it's a thing.

01:26:43.900 I think in the day, everyone's just trying to survive.

01:26:45.860 But now when you kind of look back at what Hollywood is, you're like, wow, there's

01:26:49.280 some pretty influential things and people that have been around here and some of these

01:26:52.500 places that people take for granted are – they have like cultural and historical significance.

01:26:56.860 Fuck.

01:26:57.580 You're right, Danny.

01:26:58.560 Take that.

01:26:59.280 Take that.

01:27:00.940 Season four of Righteous Gemstones.

01:27:02.680 Adam Devine's coming in too to talk to us.

01:27:04.420 Oh, good.

01:27:05.080 I know.

01:27:05.500 He's just going to sit here and lie his ass off.

01:27:07.380 That's all he does.

01:27:08.480 Yeah.

01:27:08.860 He also – he complains that he like – he said he was getting that shin thing where

01:27:12.460 he gets elongated or whatever.

01:27:14.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:15.660 He's made up a lot of stuff.

01:27:17.320 He's a good – he's a sweet man.

01:27:18.960 I really – he'll be like another one that I'll miss seeing him every year.

01:27:22.780 He's so awesome.

01:27:23.800 Yeah, it's weird when a set ends, when the shoot ends.

01:27:25.980 It's just like – it's like the last day of school.

01:27:28.840 Yeah.

01:27:29.400 Everybody's saying goodbye to everybody.

01:27:30.680 You're getting all these photos.

01:27:31.520 And then the next day or two, you're just in and –

01:27:33.760 Yeah, everything's like back to normal.

01:27:35.140 It's all – yeah, but hopefully I get to keep in touch with a lot of these people.

01:27:39.620 Oh, for sure.

01:27:40.260 Walton Goggins and Edie Patterson.

01:27:41.820 You know, I met them on Vice Principals, and both of them are like two of my closest friends.

01:27:46.600 Oh, really?

01:27:47.220 Yeah, so hopefully I'll get to keep in touch with these people.

01:27:50.400 We play the family.

01:27:51.520 Maybe we need to act like one.

01:27:53.260 Yeah.

01:27:53.860 I like that challenge.

01:27:55.560 Danny, everybody, thanks so much for all the entertainment, dude, all the inspiration.

01:27:59.100 And, yeah, I just really appreciate your time, man.

01:28:01.780 I hope you continue to make fun stuff.

01:28:03.000 I'm sure you will.

01:28:03.520 So, and congrats on getting to spend time with your kids.

01:28:06.520 Thank you, man.

01:28:06.940 I hope you put that dick laser to good use, okay?

01:28:09.140 Don't you fucking worry.

01:28:10.920 Don't you fucking worry.

01:28:12.040 I'm putting this on some fucking bitches back at the UFC fight this weekend.

01:28:17.680 Thank you so much, man.

01:28:18.560 Thank you, buddy.

01:28:18.980 You bet.

01:28:19.780 Thanks for this gift.

01:28:20.700 Yeah, very nice.

01:28:21.480 You're going to use it.

01:28:22.120 I can already tell.

01:28:22.760 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:28:28.420 I must be cornerstone.

01:28:33.520 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:28:39.140 I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:43.520 But it's going to take...

01:28:45.520 I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:55.240 I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:58.020 I can feel it in my bones.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - March 11, 2025

#568 - Danny McBride

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