This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #573

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00:00:59.560 Today's guest made me feel welcome when I got here to Tennessee.

00:01:03.820 He's arguably the most popular musician on the planet.

00:01:09.140 He's the East Tennessee Elvis, baby.

00:01:11.560 You know what he is.

00:01:13.920 I mean, he's so prolific.

00:01:15.660 He's very competitive.

00:01:16.720 And I admire his attention to detail.

00:01:22.560 Today's guest is one-of-a-kind Mr. Morgan Wallace.

00:01:27.220 Shine on me

00:01:30.500 And I will find a song

00:01:34.760 I've been singing just before

00:01:37.680 Yeah, dude, good to see you, bro.

00:01:45.320 Good to see you, too, man.

00:01:46.100 Yeah, it's awesome, man.

00:01:48.800 What's been going on?

00:01:49.400 Yeah, my mom was visiting for my birthday.

00:01:50.780 We went to the Opry.

00:01:52.820 You did?

00:01:53.300 Yeah.

00:01:54.060 Cool, man.

00:01:54.660 It was cool, dude.

00:01:55.540 Trace Adkins.

00:01:56.520 Did she come up here a lot?

00:01:57.740 Or no?

00:01:58.120 No, she hadn't been here since I moved here.

00:02:00.000 It was your birthday?

00:02:00.780 Yeah.

00:02:01.040 Oh, happy birthday.

00:02:01.700 Yeah, thanks, man.

00:02:02.100 When is your birthday?

00:02:03.420 Two days ago, March 19th.

00:02:05.200 Okay, cool.

00:02:05.840 Yeah, my parents are in town as well,

00:02:08.540 but I'm trying to get them to move here.

00:02:10.560 Oh, you are?

00:02:11.660 Yeah, I'm working on that.

00:02:12.680 That's been going on for the last few weeks now,

00:02:14.700 so we'll see.

00:02:16.020 Yeah.

00:02:16.480 Yeah, dude, your dad's so funny, dude.

00:02:18.380 Yeah, he's the man.

00:02:19.300 He's unreal.

00:02:20.240 Dude, because we went on,

00:02:21.460 what was, we went with,

00:02:23.060 is it Morgan Wallen,

00:02:23.980 the foundation,

00:02:24.800 Morgan Wallen Foundation?

00:02:25.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:26.220 Up there in the Greenville area.

00:02:28.200 Yeah, during the flood stuff?

00:02:29.560 Yeah, during Hurricane Helene, yeah.

00:02:30.980 And your dad came,

00:02:32.640 and it was awesome, man.

00:02:34.520 They had the food truck.

00:02:35.420 They had, you know,

00:02:35.800 they were doing food drives,

00:02:37.400 and I met some people up there

00:02:39.860 when we visited the houses and stuff.

00:02:41.300 That was awesome.

00:02:41.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:42.620 That was a cool day, man.

00:02:44.560 It was good.

00:02:45.160 I wish we did stuff like that more often,

00:02:47.360 you know?

00:02:47.660 I guess we could, but.

00:02:49.020 Well, I think that's why,

00:02:49.740 I mean, you have a foundation

00:02:50.400 that can do it

00:02:51.140 when you're not able to do it.

00:02:52.260 For sure.

00:02:53.100 But yeah, I agree with you.

00:02:54.040 It feels like.

00:02:54.720 It feels good to actually get out

00:02:55.740 and do it yourself,

00:02:56.640 you know what I mean?

00:02:57.220 Yeah.

00:02:58.040 It can be a little stressful.

00:02:59.400 You know, you got to keep it timed up, right,

00:03:01.800 to where you're not sticking around

00:03:02.740 in one place too long

00:03:03.860 and all that stuff, you know?

00:03:04.760 You got to be a little tactful about it,

00:03:07.460 but it's good.

00:03:10.220 Yeah, and Tony Vitello,

00:03:11.780 is that his name?

00:03:12.140 Mm-hmm.

00:03:12.640 Yeah, dude, he came out.

00:03:14.000 He's the best.

00:03:14.740 Yeah, he's cool, too, man.

00:03:15.800 Dude, he's cool.

00:03:16.520 He always helps with stuff

00:03:18.280 involved in our foundation,

00:03:19.360 and we stay in touch

00:03:20.460 on a regular basis.

00:03:21.400 Y'all do.

00:03:22.160 Yeah, I tried to invite him

00:03:24.260 to a bracket the other day.

00:03:26.720 I was like,

00:03:27.700 you're probably not allowed

00:03:28.360 to do this, are you?

00:03:28.940 He said, no.

00:03:30.820 Okay.

00:03:31.580 All right, man.

00:03:31.980 Oh, that's that more.

00:03:32.660 I'm in that bracket, baby.

00:03:33.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:34.060 I tried to invite him

00:03:34.780 into that bracket.

00:03:35.740 You and me are tied right now.

00:03:36.780 I think we're in first.

00:03:37.440 Yeah, we are.

00:03:38.040 I saw that.

00:03:38.600 Yeah, we are, dude.

00:03:39.220 I checked this morning.

00:03:40.520 Dude, yeah, one thing

00:03:41.240 that was crazy about your dad, though,

00:03:42.280 he was fasting

00:03:43.480 whenever we were doing that.

00:03:45.340 That's right.

00:03:45.680 He'd been on a 40-day fast.

00:03:47.940 Yeah, he's done that

00:03:48.660 for like as long

00:03:49.500 as I can remember.

00:03:50.740 I remember him

00:03:51.400 like when I was growing up,

00:03:52.460 he would just go

00:03:53.100 and like stay out

00:03:54.260 in the wild,

00:03:56.620 you know,

00:03:56.920 in a tent or something

00:03:57.800 and just drink apple juice

00:03:59.340 or something.

00:03:59.820 I'm like, dude,

00:04:00.840 how is this possible,

00:04:03.320 you know?

00:04:03.680 That doesn't sound like that.

00:04:04.540 That sounds like

00:04:05.040 hiding from your wife.

00:04:06.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:07.000 He needed some space.

00:04:08.680 Didn't have enough money

00:04:09.520 to get a trailer or something.

00:04:12.220 But that was,

00:04:13.080 I just didn't,

00:04:13.780 because it was crazy

00:04:14.380 because I'd just been

00:04:15.020 looking into fasting

00:04:15.740 because people say it like

00:04:16.660 if you fast,

00:04:17.640 it'll help like eat away

00:04:18.920 the cancer cells

00:04:19.760 that are in your body.

00:04:20.640 So when he was like,

00:04:21.540 I've been on 40 days.

00:04:22.840 Well, they say that

00:04:23.440 that only takes like

00:04:24.240 a couple days to do that,

00:04:25.460 what you're talking about, right?

00:04:26.360 Yeah.

00:04:26.620 Like if you fast for a couple days,

00:04:27.900 it'll do that.

00:04:28.480 Yeah.

00:04:28.720 I think.

00:04:29.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:29.520 No, that's what I hear.

00:04:30.400 Once you get past 48 hours.

00:04:32.140 Yeah, I think

00:04:32.680 what he was doing it for

00:04:34.200 was spiritual purposes.

00:04:37.540 Yeah.

00:04:37.720 That's what he used to do it for.

00:04:38.740 And that's probably

00:04:39.300 what he's doing it for now.

00:04:40.880 Yeah, a team of researchers

00:04:41.740 from MSK has shown

00:04:43.300 for the first time

00:04:43.920 that fasting can reprogram

00:04:45.060 the metabolism

00:04:45.680 of natural killer cells,

00:04:47.040 helping them to survive

00:04:47.780 in the harsh environment

00:04:48.540 in and around tumors

00:04:49.900 while improving

00:04:50.480 their cancer fighting ability.

00:04:51.960 But it just blew my mind.

00:04:53.400 I was like,

00:04:53.740 God, this dude's on 40 days.

00:04:55.560 Put this dude back in the Bible.

00:04:57.120 Yeah, I mean, dude,

00:04:58.720 I don't understand

00:04:59.820 how that's physically possible.

00:05:01.420 You know,

00:05:01.600 I pretty much have been

00:05:02.920 for the last little while

00:05:04.180 fasting until, you know, noon.

00:05:06.760 I'll do my work.

00:05:07.700 I'll do my work out

00:05:08.200 and like everything

00:05:09.440 in the first part of the day

00:05:10.760 without eating.

00:05:11.480 Yeah.

00:05:11.820 But I can't imagine

00:05:13.540 going a whole day

00:05:15.260 without doing it,

00:05:15.940 to be honest.

00:05:16.220 He's got some bandwidth

00:05:17.020 on him, man.

00:05:17.840 Yeah, he's a pretty strong-willed guy.

00:05:20.140 He's always so chipper, dude.

00:05:21.620 Yeah, I just,

00:05:22.020 I'd love to get

00:05:22.520 and hang out with him.

00:05:23.220 That was probably,

00:05:23.680 and he tells stories

00:05:24.600 from being in the military

00:05:25.420 and stuff.

00:05:25.740 Some of that stuff

00:05:26.320 is bonkers.

00:05:27.340 Oh, yeah,

00:05:27.700 some of that stuff

00:05:28.300 ain't gonna be repeated on here.

00:05:30.280 He makes me look calm.

00:05:31.700 Dude, that's the crazy part.

00:05:32.940 You start talking to him,

00:05:34.100 you're like,

00:05:34.320 oh, well,

00:05:34.620 some of this checks out.

00:05:36.000 For sure it checks out.

00:05:37.460 We don't need a DNA test

00:05:38.640 in this family.

00:05:40.540 But you said

00:05:41.200 they're moving down here?

00:05:42.460 Yeah, I'm trying

00:05:42.960 to get them to.

00:05:44.140 We'll see how it goes,

00:05:45.080 but I'm working on it.

00:05:45.940 I've been talking to them

00:05:46.620 about it for a while.

00:05:49.660 But, you know,

00:05:50.340 just somebody uprooting

00:05:51.900 their entire life

00:05:52.520 to come somewhere.

00:05:53.240 But me and my sister

00:05:53.860 live down here.

00:05:55.080 It's a tricky,

00:05:56.660 you know,

00:05:56.920 it's always tricky

00:05:57.520 getting stuff like that

00:05:58.420 to happen,

00:05:58.820 but we're working on it.

00:06:00.120 Yeah.

00:06:00.380 Yeah, that's a lot, man.

00:06:03.200 Is it,

00:06:03.920 I know you have a son,

00:06:05.340 Indio.

00:06:06.520 Indio, yeah.

00:06:07.200 His name's Indigo,

00:06:07.960 but I call him Indy.

00:06:08.840 Indy, right.

00:06:09.860 What's that been like, dude?

00:06:11.240 Because that's been

00:06:12.080 probably one of the biggest

00:06:12.920 things in your life,

00:06:13.800 I'm sure.

00:06:14.220 I mean,

00:06:15.060 outside of your,

00:06:15.860 I mean, like,

00:06:16.340 yeah, that's crazy.

00:06:17.400 Yeah, I mean, yeah.

00:06:17.960 I think.

00:06:18.480 I don't even know

00:06:18.740 how to ask that question.

00:06:19.360 I think it just gets

00:06:19.860 better and better

00:06:20.420 as, you know,

00:06:21.060 the older he gets.

00:06:21.740 I mean, it's always been cool,

00:06:22.860 but, you know,

00:06:23.300 when he's four years old now,

00:06:25.160 he'll be five this year,

00:06:26.600 just the personality

00:06:27.560 that keeps coming out

00:06:28.940 and the relationship

00:06:29.700 that you build, you know,

00:06:30.760 and he's got a little,

00:06:32.040 he's got a little sass on him,

00:06:33.620 like he's got a,

00:06:34.300 he's got a little attitude,

00:06:35.300 you know,

00:06:35.560 which is,

00:06:36.160 I like,

00:06:36.740 I like that spunk,

00:06:37.800 you know,

00:06:38.540 like yesterday,

00:06:40.060 my dad was telling him,

00:06:42.020 he was trying to get him to eat.

00:06:44.080 It's kind of a task

00:06:45.100 to get him to eat,

00:06:45.880 to sit still long enough

00:06:46.860 to eat, you know,

00:06:47.580 and my dad was like,

00:06:50.240 hey, man,

00:06:50.620 if you don't eat,

00:06:51.160 I'm going to put you

00:06:51.740 and put you in the bedroom,

00:06:53.120 you got to go to sleep

00:06:53.840 or whatever, you know,

00:06:54.400 I don't know exactly

00:06:54.940 what my dad said to him,

00:06:56.100 but he looked at my dad

00:06:57.260 and he said,

00:06:57.880 I don't want you

00:06:58.860 to stay here anymore.

00:07:00.460 All day, brother, wow.

00:07:03.400 But I just,

00:07:04.180 I mean, like,

00:07:05.920 it's just hilarious,

00:07:06.980 you know.

00:07:07.440 And you're behind your dad,

00:07:08.240 you're telling him,

00:07:08.760 like,

00:07:08.920 keep telling him.

00:07:09.700 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:07:10.880 yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:12.060 Just anything to keep him,

00:07:13.340 keep him rocking,

00:07:13.980 but he's a,

00:07:14.900 he's a sweetheart,

00:07:16.020 but whenever you get him,

00:07:16.800 yeah, oh, yeah.

00:07:17.760 He,

00:07:18.080 he's almost too sweet.

00:07:19.420 He's too nice to everyone,

00:07:20.600 like people he doesn't know,

00:07:22.400 you know,

00:07:22.720 like, hey, man,

00:07:23.380 we don't like everybody, man.

00:07:26.200 We don't know these people, man.

00:07:28.200 Stranger danger, baby.

00:07:29.420 Yeah, yeah,

00:07:29.600 so I'm trying to teach him

00:07:30.480 a little bit of that,

00:07:31.140 but.

00:07:31.300 He's got,

00:07:31.720 he's wild, definitely.

00:07:32.860 He emailed me the other day

00:07:33.720 asking me to send him

00:07:34.480 some Zins.

00:07:35.160 I was like,

00:07:35.480 dude, you got to.

00:07:36.300 Yeah, yeah,

00:07:37.160 I couldn't believe he figured out,

00:07:38.560 you know,

00:07:38.780 how to get a hold

00:07:39.400 of the iPad like that.

00:07:41.100 I'm not,

00:07:41.600 I'm not really big

00:07:42.500 on letting him,

00:07:43.220 you know,

00:07:43.620 sit around with an iPad,

00:07:45.100 but I guess he got my,

00:07:46.080 my nieces or something.

00:07:48.340 She probably had him send,

00:07:49.840 or he probably had her

00:07:51.120 send the email,

00:07:51.720 you know.

00:07:52.180 Hey, Haven,

00:07:53.180 type this out for me.

00:07:58.220 Threes or sixes?

00:07:59.400 Does he have,

00:08:00.060 yeah, yeah,

00:08:00.560 does he have a,

00:08:01.380 threes or six?

00:08:04.260 I just downgraded

00:08:05.080 to the threes, man.

00:08:06.140 I'm,

00:08:06.540 I'm weaning myself off.

00:08:07.900 Are you?

00:08:08.720 I don't know.

00:08:09.620 I might just be putting two in.

00:08:11.720 That's right, dude.

00:08:13.020 That's just a little bit

00:08:13.780 of mouth math, homie.

00:08:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:15.440 But you'll see a dude

00:08:17.560 with like 11 threes

00:08:19.200 and I'm like,

00:08:19.720 bitch,

00:08:19.900 just get a damn 20 or something.

00:08:21.440 That's like,

00:08:22.100 uh,

00:08:22.480 Andrew.

00:08:23.320 Oh,

00:08:23.620 yeah.

00:08:23.900 Your cousin?

00:08:24.320 Yes, yes.

00:08:25.180 He'll have a multitude

00:08:26.580 in there.

00:08:29.580 He's only on the Citrus,

00:08:30.780 though.

00:08:31.120 He's hilarious, dude.

00:08:32.580 Well,

00:08:32.800 I'll ask you about him

00:08:33.960 in a little bit, man.

00:08:35.320 All right.

00:08:36.200 Does your son have like

00:08:37.060 a favorite song of yours

00:08:37.940 or anything?

00:08:38.800 Yeah,

00:08:39.040 it's a song that's not out yet.

00:08:40.360 Like this,

00:08:40.820 this album right

00:08:41.520 that I've been working on,

00:08:43.260 this is the first time

00:08:44.060 where he's,

00:08:44.560 it seems like he's really

00:08:45.760 starting to put two

00:08:47.140 and two together,

00:08:47.880 you know?

00:08:48.460 Yeah.

00:08:49.060 Um,

00:08:50.660 I would come home

00:08:51.980 after I'd been writing

00:08:52.740 and I'd show him songs

00:08:53.920 this time.

00:08:54.620 This is the first time

00:08:55.240 that he's ever cared,

00:08:56.860 you know,

00:08:57.060 and I was,

00:08:57.640 there's a song called

00:08:58.240 Eyes Are Closed

00:08:58.900 on my record

00:08:59.860 and I brought it home

00:09:01.980 that night,

00:09:02.440 you know,

00:09:02.600 we wrote it that day

00:09:03.260 and took it home

00:09:03.900 that night

00:09:04.280 and I was just playing.

00:09:05.500 I wasn't really playing

00:09:06.140 it for him.

00:09:06.940 I just had it kind of

00:09:07.600 playing in the background

00:09:08.240 because it was my first time

00:09:09.420 hearing the demo

00:09:09.960 of what we had just done

00:09:10.780 that day

00:09:11.120 and he was in the background

00:09:12.620 and he kind of,

00:09:13.600 you know,

00:09:13.940 moseyed on over there

00:09:14.860 and started being like,

00:09:16.360 ooh,

00:09:16.700 what's this,

00:09:17.220 you know?

00:09:17.540 And then after it was done,

00:09:18.500 he said,

00:09:18.880 I like that song,

00:09:20.440 Daddy.

00:09:20.880 Really?

00:09:21.400 And it was like the first time

00:09:22.440 he had ever done that,

00:09:23.400 you know?

00:09:23.640 So it was a special moment

00:09:24.640 for me,

00:09:25.000 something I'll never forget

00:09:25.880 and he said,

00:09:27.000 play that again.

00:09:28.120 Oh,

00:09:28.480 that's cool.

00:09:29.120 And I was like,

00:09:29.140 yeah!

00:09:30.160 This song's a hit for me

00:09:31.360 no matter what,

00:09:32.040 you know?

00:09:32.380 So that was the first time

00:09:35.220 I had really seen him

00:09:36.300 like all those,

00:09:38.580 you know,

00:09:39.220 dots start connecting.

00:09:40.420 Yeah.

00:09:41.300 I bet that's special.

00:09:42.440 For a while,

00:09:43.100 he thought that Soul

00:09:44.880 by John Michael Montgomery,

00:09:46.120 he thought that was me singing.

00:09:47.540 He thought,

00:09:48.000 he was like,

00:09:48.360 play Daddy's fast song.

00:09:49.880 He called it the fast song.

00:09:51.540 Soul to the lady

00:09:52.140 in a second row.

00:09:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:09:54.460 Yeah,

00:09:54.620 and he thought

00:09:55.860 that was me singing.

00:09:57.560 I said,

00:09:57.980 damn, man!

00:09:59.640 I mean,

00:09:59.940 that dude sounds pretty good,

00:10:01.060 but come on.

00:10:02.920 And then he's just

00:10:03.740 bidding on pigs

00:10:04.740 at his daycare?

00:10:05.640 Yeah,

00:10:05.800 yeah.

00:10:07.240 Probably.

00:10:07.720 Well,

00:10:07.920 I went down

00:10:08.500 in the ground of county.

00:10:09.740 Is that right?

00:10:10.260 Yeah,

00:10:10.580 yeah,

00:10:10.680 that.

00:10:11.080 He called it the fast song

00:10:12.240 and I finally broke it to him.

00:10:13.640 I said,

00:10:13.800 that ain't me, dude.

00:10:15.260 Oh,

00:10:15.680 yeah,

00:10:15.920 and the email he sent me,

00:10:17.560 he's like,

00:10:17.760 yeah,

00:10:17.920 you need to listen

00:10:18.400 to my father's hit

00:10:19.040 Cotton Eye Joe as well.

00:10:20.700 Oh,

00:10:20.880 yeah.

00:10:21.480 Well,

00:10:21.880 we are from Knoxville,

00:10:22.840 you know?

00:10:23.080 He's seen that sign

00:10:23.900 a few times.

00:10:25.220 That checks out,

00:10:26.340 man.

00:10:28.000 As you make more music,

00:10:29.320 so the new album,

00:10:30.200 I'm the Problem.

00:10:31.140 Mm-hmm.

00:10:32.060 As you make more music,

00:10:33.960 because you have been

00:10:35.040 so prolific,

00:10:36.140 I think that's the word.

00:10:37.040 What does prolific mean?

00:10:38.400 I think that's the right word,

00:10:39.360 too.

00:10:39.680 Okay.

00:10:41.380 But I don't know

00:10:41.940 if either one of us should be.

00:10:43.280 If there were

00:10:43.700 the dictionary guys.

00:10:44.920 Yeah,

00:10:45.280 yeah,

00:10:45.660 definitely.

00:10:48.700 It's like a lot.

00:10:49.900 Producing much fruit.

00:10:51.380 Producing much fruit,

00:10:52.460 foliage,

00:10:52.780 or offspring,

00:10:53.840 actually,

00:10:54.140 it says.

00:10:55.400 I ain't been that prolific

00:10:56.440 in that term,

00:10:57.520 but yeah.

00:10:58.140 Presenting one plentiful,

00:10:59.160 it says.

00:11:00.340 Producing many works.

00:11:01.700 But does it get tougher

00:11:02.920 to like,

00:11:03.380 okay,

00:11:04.100 how do I have,

00:11:05.940 do I not have a song

00:11:07.160 that sounds,

00:11:07.840 that's similar to a song

00:11:08.760 I previous had?

00:11:09.500 Because when you have

00:11:10.180 so many songs,

00:11:10.980 does that get a little bit tough

00:11:11.860 or what's that like?

00:11:12.720 Yeah,

00:11:13.000 I think it does,

00:11:13.840 you know?

00:11:14.260 Like,

00:11:14.420 has there been a great song

00:11:15.240 that you guys have put together

00:11:17.260 and then you're like,

00:11:17.820 oh man,

00:11:18.600 it's just a little too close

00:11:19.760 to this or?

00:11:22.080 Well,

00:11:22.580 for this album,

00:11:23.620 I feel like I just didn't

00:11:24.400 let it get to that point.

00:11:25.400 You know,

00:11:25.580 at least if I was a part

00:11:26.760 of writing it,

00:11:27.280 you know,

00:11:27.600 I think,

00:11:28.320 I can't remember exactly

00:11:29.240 how many ones I was

00:11:30.860 and wasn't a part of writing.

00:11:33.800 But if a song came in

00:11:35.260 from a,

00:11:35.860 like as a pitch,

00:11:37.040 I kind of knew immediately.

00:11:38.380 I was like,

00:11:38.720 oh,

00:11:38.900 these people are writing,

00:11:40.420 this might have made

00:11:41.120 my last record.

00:11:42.580 Maybe.

00:11:43.660 Probably not.

00:11:44.280 But,

00:11:44.920 you know,

00:11:45.760 it's like,

00:11:46.320 it's like,

00:11:47.060 that's what it felt like

00:11:48.060 to me.

00:11:49.460 A lot of the pitches

00:11:50.260 were that.

00:11:51.180 Yeah,

00:11:51.380 because I guess people

00:11:52.020 are just going,

00:11:52.580 they don't know

00:11:52.980 where your next step is

00:11:54.120 and who you are.

00:11:54.720 There was a select

00:11:55.860 group of writers

00:11:56.820 that I kind of,

00:11:57.680 you know,

00:11:57.980 told a little bit

00:11:59.420 what I was trying

00:12:00.080 to accomplish,

00:12:00.700 you know,

00:12:00.940 and I feel like

00:12:01.460 that really helped me

00:12:03.000 find a certain,

00:12:04.280 one of the sounds

00:12:05.260 that's on my record.

00:12:06.600 But for me,

00:12:07.380 when I'm writing,

00:12:08.000 I kind of,

00:12:08.360 you know,

00:12:08.640 you can kind of tell

00:12:09.620 from the idea almost

00:12:11.020 if the song

00:12:12.120 is going to be similar

00:12:12.820 or not,

00:12:13.160 you know?

00:12:13.320 And that was something

00:12:13.820 that was tougher for me

00:12:14.640 because a lot of,

00:12:15.340 you know,

00:12:16.060 a lot of the things

00:12:17.020 that were successful

00:12:18.220 and that were easy

00:12:18.940 in the past

00:12:19.440 were just like whiskey,

00:12:21.100 drinking,

00:12:21.620 you know,

00:12:21.860 like all that stuff

00:12:22.580 and I've kind of just

00:12:23.380 almost explored

00:12:24.480 every angle of that

00:12:25.620 that's possible,

00:12:26.940 you know?

00:12:27.180 Like,

00:12:27.580 there's still

00:12:28.520 some possible ways

00:12:30.620 to get that in there.

00:12:32.100 But I tried to,

00:12:32.820 I tried to dig deeper,

00:12:33.860 man,

00:12:34.020 and you know,

00:12:34.380 and I,

00:12:35.520 a lot of my guys

00:12:36.200 that I write with,

00:12:37.060 we kind of kept a,

00:12:39.120 at least for me,

00:12:39.840 when I was writing,

00:12:40.500 we kept five or six guys.

00:12:41.640 We didn't always write together,

00:12:42.860 but,

00:12:43.540 you know,

00:12:43.820 that kind of core group

00:12:44.880 of guys,

00:12:45.460 we all just had a good,

00:12:47.080 good sense of what

00:12:48.060 we were shooting for

00:12:48.800 and just trying not to say

00:12:50.380 the same thing

00:12:50.880 that I've said before

00:12:51.740 and,

00:12:52.400 you know,

00:12:52.560 incorporating new things.

00:12:53.640 So,

00:12:53.860 I feel like

00:12:54.660 it was harder,

00:12:56.100 you know,

00:12:56.300 I had to work harder.

00:12:57.280 Yeah?

00:12:59.240 Like,

00:12:59.600 what do you mean?

00:12:59.880 Like,

00:12:59.980 finding new angles,

00:13:00.780 like dropping?

00:13:01.060 Yeah,

00:13:01.280 just finding new angles

00:13:02.180 and just thinking up ideas,

00:13:03.380 you know,

00:13:03.560 and there's,

00:13:04.000 you know,

00:13:05.240 or just,

00:13:05.880 maybe somebody had an idea

00:13:07.420 and they brought it in

00:13:08.720 and I'm like,

00:13:09.280 well,

00:13:09.420 that's pretty good,

00:13:10.100 but like trying to find a way

00:13:11.140 to make it something different,

00:13:14.960 you know,

00:13:15.180 like it would,

00:13:15.920 sounds like that idea

00:13:16.720 would have been on the last record,

00:13:17.820 but maybe I can flip this

00:13:18.860 or flip that

00:13:19.420 into making it something

00:13:20.380 that's more unique,

00:13:21.960 you know?

00:13:22.380 So,

00:13:22.840 just trying to dig deeper

00:13:24.060 and not just saying,

00:13:25.160 oh yeah,

00:13:25.500 not just being content

00:13:26.540 with something,

00:13:27.220 you know,

00:13:27.380 just digging deeper.

00:13:28.060 It's pretty easy.

00:13:28.640 Yeah,

00:13:28.860 just digging deeper.

00:13:30.040 Because you can kind of,

00:13:30.840 yeah,

00:13:31.200 it's funny,

00:13:31.680 I was talking to Charlie Hansen

00:13:33.500 the other night.

00:13:34.160 Dude,

00:13:34.600 that guy,

00:13:35.260 bro,

00:13:35.680 him and Marissa,

00:13:37.060 is that his Marissa?

00:13:37.840 Yeah,

00:13:38.120 Marissa,

00:13:38.520 yeah.

00:13:38.860 Bro,

00:13:39.540 they're hilarious,

00:13:40.720 bro.

00:13:40.940 They are hilarious.

00:13:42.020 She's so funny,

00:13:43.120 dude.

00:13:44.460 She kind of keeps him in check,

00:13:45.900 I feel like.

00:13:46.760 The pairing,

00:13:47.680 both of them,

00:13:48.980 because he's kind of so kind of

00:13:50.820 rough around the edges,

00:13:52.360 like,

00:13:52.580 I don't,

00:13:52.960 maybe that's a crazy,

00:13:53.860 it's not a crazy thing

00:13:54.540 to say about him.

00:13:55.400 No,

00:13:55.700 definitely not.

00:13:56.160 I think he'd probably agree with that.

00:13:57.200 Yeah,

00:13:57.500 he's,

00:13:57.940 he's just so,

00:13:59.360 he's so real.

00:14:00.640 He's just,

00:14:01.000 he's a pretty blunt guy.

00:14:02.000 Yes.

00:14:02.700 Pretty blunt.

00:14:03.560 Yes,

00:14:03.860 he is.

00:14:04.020 Which I've always loved that about him,

00:14:05.460 you know,

00:14:05.680 when he first got to,

00:14:06.540 to town,

00:14:07.580 I guess that was probably,

00:14:08.680 who we wrote,

00:14:10.440 if I know me,

00:14:11.220 I mean,

00:14:11.440 that had to be either 17 or 18

00:14:12.920 when I first met him.

00:14:14.320 Wow.

00:14:14.840 And,

00:14:15.760 2017 or 18,

00:14:17.120 not when I was 17 or 18 years old,

00:14:18.500 but,

00:14:18.860 you know,

00:14:20.940 he kind of,

00:14:22.160 I think,

00:14:22.840 he came from LA,

00:14:23.960 so he had like this,

00:14:26.400 I don't know,

00:14:26.780 I guess it's different out there,

00:14:27.980 you know,

00:14:28.420 if it seems like it's like a dick measuring contest out there a lot.

00:14:31.980 Well,

00:14:32.260 people are probably,

00:14:32.800 yeah,

00:14:33.160 yeah,

00:14:33.320 that could be true.

00:14:34.320 And I think he had brought a lot of that mindset to Nashville,

00:14:37.660 you know,

00:14:38.000 and I,

00:14:38.580 whenever we were first writing,

00:14:39.660 I'm like,

00:14:39.900 Hey man,

00:14:40.260 you know,

00:14:40.500 you ain't gotta be,

00:14:41.740 you ain't gotta be like that,

00:14:42.580 you know,

00:14:43.220 like it ain't,

00:14:43.560 it ain't like that here.

00:14:44.800 Yeah.

00:14:44.980 You know,

00:14:45.400 so we just,

00:14:46.680 and I would give him a hard time when he would be acting like that.

00:14:48.980 I'd always,

00:14:49.440 you know,

00:14:49.620 talk shit and stuff.

00:14:50.480 So we just became instant friends,

00:14:51.820 like that kind of friend.

00:14:52.620 I could see that a hundred percent,

00:14:53.920 dude.

00:14:54.160 Yeah.

00:14:54.760 Cause what did I say?

00:14:55.640 Oh,

00:14:55.860 he gotten married,

00:14:56.620 right?

00:14:56.820 And his wife one night,

00:14:57.820 I think that she probably had a cocktail or two and invited me to their wedding.

00:15:00.960 Right.

00:15:01.280 Yeah.

00:15:01.580 And I had to work that weekend,

00:15:03.780 but I saw pictures.

00:15:04.640 You win.

00:15:04.940 I think Hardy went,

00:15:05.840 it looked like a good time.

00:15:06.760 I mean,

00:15:06.940 it was a beautiful wedding,

00:15:07.840 man.

00:15:08.060 I mean,

00:15:09.420 it really,

00:15:10.180 really beautiful.

00:15:10.780 It was on an Island somewhere.

00:15:11.800 Yeah.

00:15:14.980 Oh yeah.

00:15:16.680 It was the house.

00:15:17.380 It was that compound where that was filmed.

00:15:19.580 Oh damn.

00:15:20.280 So it was legit.

00:15:22.100 God.

00:15:23.060 Yeah.

00:15:23.320 But,

00:15:23.540 and then,

00:15:23.800 so when I saw him,

00:15:24.740 I said,

00:15:25.000 Hey man,

00:15:25.240 I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the wedding.

00:15:26.360 He's like,

00:15:26.640 well,

00:15:27.340 you know,

00:15:28.580 we weren't really expecting you there.

00:15:29.900 Yeah.

00:15:30.420 I don't know if they,

00:15:31.160 I was in the damn wedding.

00:15:32.280 I don't know if they was expecting me there.

00:15:33.840 I showed up about an hour before I was supposed to start and left before it was over.

00:15:37.740 But I,

00:15:38.900 I was proud to be there,

00:15:40.260 man.

00:15:40.360 It was,

00:15:40.620 it was cool.

00:15:41.180 I,

00:15:41.500 I,

00:15:41.780 I really appreciated it.

00:15:43.220 It was,

00:15:43.620 but he's just like,

00:15:44.980 we don't,

00:15:45.280 we don't super know each other that good.

00:15:47.240 He said,

00:15:47.620 but it was so,

00:15:48.300 it was so like just the realest shit ever.

00:15:50.340 He's like,

00:15:50.840 and if we become better friends and you know,

00:15:52.920 and that happens then,

00:15:53.840 yeah,

00:15:54.000 man,

00:15:54.280 I'd expect you to be at my,

00:15:55.760 you know,

00:15:56.000 if I get divorced or if I,

00:15:57.220 if I do a renew of the vows,

00:15:59.220 I said,

00:15:59.840 but it was just,

00:16:00.380 I'd expect you to be at my divorce.

00:16:01.820 And I was like,

00:16:04.440 dude,

00:16:04.620 you're so right.

00:16:05.300 I was like,

00:16:05.800 and it didn't make me want to get to know him more.

00:16:07.740 Cause it was like just cutting through to bullshit.

00:16:10.560 I love that.

00:16:11.180 He's definitely,

00:16:11.640 that's a definite,

00:16:12.660 that's an accurate way of describing him,

00:16:14.180 which I think is probably what makes him a good songwriter too.

00:16:17.360 Cause it's like,

00:16:17.980 you got to like,

00:16:19.220 if you too much bull,

00:16:20.600 it's like,

00:16:21.000 if you can cut through the bullshit,

00:16:22.100 he's,

00:16:23.080 he's,

00:16:23.580 he'll definitely tell you like,

00:16:26.140 or if you're,

00:16:26.900 if you're on something,

00:16:27.560 he's like,

00:16:27.780 man,

00:16:27.920 that sucks.

00:16:28.680 You know?

00:16:29.180 And that's what,

00:16:29.720 I mean,

00:16:30.260 I feel like I have a pretty good gauge of,

00:16:32.040 of,

00:16:32.380 you know,

00:16:32.620 what's good and what's not,

00:16:33.560 but like,

00:16:33.880 it's,

00:16:34.160 it's nice to have another person in the room who will tell you straight up,

00:16:37.660 you know?

00:16:37.900 Cause especially when you,

00:16:39.060 when you do get to like,

00:16:40.340 get to this level,

00:16:41.460 people sometimes don't check you the way they should,

00:16:44.180 they'll just let you rock with it and you know,

00:16:46.620 whatever.

00:16:47.320 Damn dude.

00:16:48.040 No,

00:16:48.200 it's just interesting to hear you say that.

00:16:50.680 Um,

00:16:51.000 I had a guy a few years ago,

00:16:52.040 I was,

00:16:52.340 I'd taken out a guy to,

00:16:53.860 we,

00:16:54.020 we went to lunch and we're,

00:16:56.280 he's married and we're both straight,

00:16:57.840 but we went and had lunch together and,

00:17:00.200 um,

00:17:00.600 thanks for clarifying,

00:17:01.300 man.

00:17:01.560 But yeah,

00:17:01.880 he was just,

00:17:02.580 he's been like a manager of like some of the most popular comedians over time.

00:17:06.500 And I was talking to him,

00:17:06.980 he goes,

00:17:07.560 well,

00:17:07.780 you kind of have to evolve with your audience.

00:17:09.520 He's like,

00:17:10.000 if you,

00:17:10.300 you know,

00:17:10.700 going back to kind of what you said earlier about like,

00:17:13.240 you know,

00:17:13.480 some people probably present songs to you.

00:17:16.360 That would have been great an album or two ago.

00:17:18.160 It's like,

00:17:18.400 damn,

00:17:18.680 that would have been,

00:17:19.320 but it's like you.

00:17:19.980 Yeah.

00:17:20.160 I mean,

00:17:20.380 you can't blame,

00:17:21.280 you know,

00:17:21.560 you can't,

00:17:21.860 you know what I mean?

00:17:22.880 You can't expect them to know what's in your head and what you're going to do next.

00:17:26.220 Yeah.

00:17:26.440 And they only have like the footprints that they've seen you leave so far make that they can even judge on.

00:17:31.460 Right.

00:17:31.680 Like I've heard wasted on you.

00:17:33.400 I've heard that 2.0,

00:17:35.420 18,000 times,

00:17:37.380 you know,

00:17:37.900 in my inbox.

00:17:39.840 Um,

00:17:40.440 a lot of them don't even make it to me because it gets snipped before it even gets to me,

00:17:43.800 but I've,

00:17:44.800 I've heard plenty of them,

00:17:46.080 you know?

00:17:46.300 Oh yeah,

00:17:46.580 for sure.

00:17:47.140 I understand it,

00:17:48.320 but you know,

00:17:49.620 you can't,

00:17:50.100 you can't settle like that.

00:17:51.260 Yeah.

00:17:51.980 Yeah.

00:17:52.300 But you also don't want to go too far either.

00:17:55.300 Cause then your fans are like,

00:17:56.460 Oh dude,

00:17:57.120 you know,

00:17:57.380 what's,

00:17:57.720 what's his name?

00:17:58.940 Chris Gaines.

00:17:59.800 Is he just taking a lot of mushrooms or something?

00:18:01.420 You know,

00:18:01.640 like you can get that guy too.

00:18:03.660 This man,

00:18:04.060 it's one time he said,

00:18:04.960 he goes,

00:18:05.480 one thing you have to,

00:18:06.260 you have to evolve with your audience.

00:18:07.740 If you try to hide that you're evolving or that you're growing,

00:18:11.080 cause your audience also grows,

00:18:12.480 right?

00:18:12.900 Yeah.

00:18:13.500 So he's like,

00:18:14.060 if you try,

00:18:14.660 it's,

00:18:14.900 it's,

00:18:15.200 it can be a trap sometimes to try to just,

00:18:17.680 uh,

00:18:18.060 fit your,

00:18:18.700 fit your current feet back in your old footprints.

00:18:20.620 And I just thought it was interesting to hear somebody say that I'd never really thought about.

00:18:23.760 Cause sometimes you're like,

00:18:24.560 Oh,

00:18:24.740 this worked and I got to stay right here,

00:18:26.880 but you're not there anymore.

00:18:28.760 You know?

00:18:29.760 Yeah.

00:18:30.220 And I mean,

00:18:30.600 even if it's just subtle changes,

00:18:32.160 it don't have to be like huge things,

00:18:34.600 you know?

00:18:34.800 Yeah.

00:18:35.100 You don't have to come out and do like a Mozart style.

00:18:37.460 Right.

00:18:37.920 Right.

00:18:38.280 You know,

00:18:38.500 like my last album,

00:18:39.360 I had plenty of trap beats and stuff like that.

00:18:41.580 This time I was like,

00:18:42.380 Hey man,

00:18:42.720 let's just,

00:18:43.300 let's tone that back a little bit.

00:18:44.680 I'm tired.

00:18:45.160 I'm tired of it.

00:18:45.820 I'm tired of hearing it.

00:18:46.560 So if I'm tired of it,

00:18:47.640 they probably tired of hearing it.

00:18:48.920 You know?

00:18:49.160 So just like certain things that you can still get that same swag or that same,

00:18:52.980 you can accomplish certain things without doing the same exact thing.

00:18:56.620 Yeah.

00:18:56.720 So it's just simple stuff like that in some cases.

00:18:59.640 Do you feel like you've always had a pretty good,

00:19:01.520 like a instinct about that kind of stuff?

00:19:03.700 Like,

00:19:03.840 is that something that you think you really have?

00:19:05.220 Like you kind of can feel,

00:19:06.840 I like to think so,

00:19:07.960 man.

00:19:08.260 I feel like I can tell when something's getting tired,

00:19:10.900 you know?

00:19:12.060 And yeah,

00:19:13.600 I don't,

00:19:14.600 that's a gift,

00:19:15.280 man.

00:19:15.920 Yeah,

00:19:16.320 I guess so.

00:19:16.900 Maybe God gave me that.

00:19:18.040 I don't know.

00:19:19.280 I've also,

00:19:19.900 I've also learned from people in my,

00:19:21.620 in my,

00:19:21.980 you know,

00:19:22.180 that I've been around for the last 10 years who have,

00:19:24.680 who I feel like I've learned from and that,

00:19:26.120 that have helped me with that as well.

00:19:27.460 You know,

00:19:27.700 I don't think I was just fully just,

00:19:30.060 I think I had a knack for it already,

00:19:31.500 but I think I've,

00:19:32.480 you know,

00:19:32.900 developed it and learned from people as well.

00:19:34.760 So,

00:19:35.120 yeah.

00:19:35.400 Yeah.

00:19:36.060 I've always had a tough time.

00:19:37.600 Like,

00:19:38.000 cause I've always been like a do it yourself kind of guy.

00:19:40.440 Like,

00:19:40.620 I feel like I know what I'm doing.

00:19:41.860 Like I work hard,

00:19:42.900 but then recently I've had to like realize I need help more.

00:19:47.180 It's like,

00:19:47.580 I can't always give this guy a hard time.

00:19:50.600 I need it.

00:19:50.920 I need it.

00:19:51.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:51.740 Like I can't always butt up against every wall,

00:19:53.920 you know,

00:19:54.160 cause I'll just do that.

00:19:55.140 It's just my nature.

00:19:55.840 Cause I don't want help a lot of times.

00:19:57.480 Yeah.

00:19:57.740 Yeah.

00:19:58.380 Man,

00:19:58.660 that shit has been,

00:19:59.340 that's a big,

00:20:00.220 that's a big deal.

00:20:01.260 Yeah.

00:20:01.480 It's been getting better though recently.

00:20:02.720 Yeah.

00:20:03.160 Even just like just little things.

00:20:05.400 I just started noticing it's getting a little bit better and it's,

00:20:07.640 and the irony is everything's been easier.

00:20:10.600 Yeah.

00:20:10.960 The more I let help come in.

00:20:12.400 I think there's certain areas in my life,

00:20:14.680 like with music,

00:20:15.260 I've always kind of,

00:20:16.380 I've been a good teammate.

00:20:18.760 I don't know why that is,

00:20:20.640 you know,

00:20:20.840 maybe I've just always liked the,

00:20:23.420 I like the,

00:20:24.500 the aspect of feeling like you're on a team,

00:20:27.200 I guess.

00:20:27.440 Cause I played sports and stuff so much growing up,

00:20:29.200 you know,

00:20:29.400 like for me,

00:20:29.900 I enjoy the camaraderie of making music with my buddies and doing all that

00:20:33.540 stuff,

00:20:33.800 you know?

00:20:33.960 So I've always kind of enjoyed the,

00:20:36.520 the,

00:20:36.960 the help and the team aspect of that.

00:20:38.780 But there's other areas in my life where I,

00:20:40.460 I'm like you,

00:20:41.420 where I'm like,

00:20:42.060 I don't,

00:20:42.620 you know,

00:20:43.440 whatever.

00:20:43.920 No,

00:20:44.180 no,

00:20:44.340 I'm good.

00:20:44.840 Yeah.

00:20:45.240 I'm good.

00:20:45.960 So it's not,

00:20:46.660 it doesn't necessarily permeate throughout my entire life.

00:20:49.820 It's just that one thing where I,

00:20:51.700 I've been able to,

00:20:52.620 to do that.

00:20:53.440 Yeah.

00:20:54.020 Oh dude,

00:20:54.560 I'll be sitting in the damn bottom of a hole.

00:20:57.140 There'll be a thousand people out there with rope and I'll be like,

00:20:59.460 I'm good.

00:20:59.940 Yeah.

00:21:00.360 I'll find one.

00:21:01.700 I'll figure it out.

00:21:02.820 There's one down here.

00:21:03.600 There's one down here somewhere.

00:21:05.620 And they'll be up there and they're like,

00:21:07.640 this dude's an idiot.

00:21:09.100 Yeah.

00:21:09.540 Yeah.

00:21:10.740 Yeah.

00:21:11.100 You're damn right.

00:21:11.760 I am.

00:21:11.940 But I'm proud of it too.

00:21:13.620 Yeah.

00:21:13.820 Yeah.

00:21:14.020 I'm proud of it.

00:21:15.140 That's the best part.

00:21:17.740 Is it tough in your life?

00:21:19.100 I mean,

00:21:19.400 dude,

00:21:19.680 your music,

00:21:20.440 it's like,

00:21:21.380 it's just been such a way that like,

00:21:23.820 I mean,

00:21:24.120 you couldn't travel around town without seeing every guy at a stoplight

00:21:28.860 look like,

00:21:29.560 you know,

00:21:29.940 look like a Morgan Wallen and look like a,

00:21:32.280 like a,

00:21:33.180 I'll hear your music everywhere,

00:21:34.620 every store.

00:21:35.280 Like,

00:21:35.720 are there moments for you where it's like,

00:21:37.000 God,

00:21:37.400 this guy's got a ton of,

00:21:38.760 like,

00:21:39.060 it's like,

00:21:39.480 we're almost where you become too much for you.

00:21:42.180 Like,

00:21:42.320 is that ever,

00:21:42.880 you don't,

00:21:43.300 does that make any sense?

00:21:44.300 Yeah,

00:21:44.500 no,

00:21:44.700 it does.

00:21:46.020 It's,

00:21:46.440 it's still,

00:21:47.160 it's still weird.

00:21:48.040 And there's parts of that that I don't like.

00:21:49.700 I mean,

00:21:50.400 I think anybody who has to deal with that,

00:21:52.380 it's not ideal.

00:21:53.420 You know,

00:21:53.700 it's not ideal to go everywhere.

00:21:55.060 And even if you don't get,

00:21:56.100 get like,

00:21:57.220 you know,

00:21:57.580 bothered,

00:21:58.060 you,

00:21:58.260 you,

00:21:58.680 you were on edge the whole time because you thought you might.

00:22:01.280 It's like,

00:22:01.700 there's just not a lot of,

00:22:03.980 not,

00:22:04.520 there's,

00:22:04.780 there's things that you just don't do.

00:22:07.320 Yeah.

00:22:07.540 You just don't do them anymore.

00:22:09.020 Yeah.

00:22:09.180 You know,

00:22:09.620 but that's okay.

00:22:10.240 That's why,

00:22:10.840 that's why I've taken up hunting so much.

00:22:12.640 I think,

00:22:13.040 you know,

00:22:13.340 because I can go be with my buddies.

00:22:14.880 I'm in the middle of nowhere.

00:22:16.340 I can be at ease.

00:22:18.420 I can not stress out.

00:22:21.040 You just find ways to supplement it.

00:22:23.180 I think,

00:22:23.640 you know?

00:22:24.040 Yeah.

00:22:24.740 Yeah.

00:22:25.060 It's kind of funny that you can't,

00:22:26.060 you can't really go to a bar anymore because there'd be too much hassle and it's probably

00:22:30.460 best thing for you.

00:22:31.880 It's definitely the best thing for me.

00:22:33.300 You know,

00:22:33.840 I mean,

00:22:35.180 if you,

00:22:35.900 if you're using a bar as a specific example,

00:22:38.300 that's definitely,

00:22:39.000 that's definitely the best thing for me.

00:22:41.480 I ain't been in a bar since,

00:22:43.120 since,

00:22:43.960 uh,

00:22:44.840 since the last time I was in a bar,

00:22:46.520 um,

00:22:47.540 that everybody knows about.

00:22:50.040 How is that?

00:22:50.700 That feels like a bar right there.

00:22:51.920 It does.

00:22:52.220 I ain't been in a bar since the last time I was in a bar.

00:22:53.800 It sounds like an old country song for sure.

00:22:56.840 Um,

00:22:57.360 but yeah,

00:22:59.020 that's,

00:22:59.540 that's,

00:22:59.840 that's the most public time I was in a bar.

00:23:02.500 That's the last time I was in a bar.

00:23:04.100 Dude,

00:23:04.500 have you seen those,

00:23:05.480 uh,

00:23:06.080 there's an AI bar thing that makes,

00:23:08.360 uh,

00:23:09.160 country songs.

00:23:10.680 There's one about a bar.

00:23:11.720 You got to see if you can pull it up.

00:23:13.780 Um,

00:23:14.600 Trevin.

00:23:15.300 Is it good?

00:23:16.100 Dude,

00:23:16.460 it's pretty funny.

00:23:17.280 Let me see.

00:23:18.540 Uh,

00:23:19.400 this shit kind of surprised me.

00:23:23.040 Uh,

00:23:23.760 what am I about?

00:23:24.340 Oh,

00:23:24.460 it's the right one kitchen in the second one right there with the guy and the lady in the truck.

00:23:27.600 Yeah.

00:23:28.200 Turn that up for a second.

00:23:29.220 It's just ridiculous.

00:23:31.460 Look,

00:23:32.160 change it to whiskey and have Morgan Wallen sing it.

00:23:35.140 That's the,

00:23:35.680 one of the number one comments.

00:23:36.860 Hey,

00:23:40.360 start it back over and just turn it up a little bit.

00:23:42.220 We can't hear it,

00:23:43.060 but this is just like AI made this.

00:23:44.660 I woke up in the morning to crack myself a beer,

00:23:49.400 then went down to the kitchen to grab myself a beer.

00:23:54.440 Made myself some breakfast,

00:23:56.780 another beer,

00:23:57.960 of course.

00:23:58.640 That's when my baby said to me,

00:24:01.260 I want to get a divorce.

00:24:02.980 So now I definitely need to go grab another beer or two or three so I can start thinking clear.

00:24:13.260 Oh,

00:24:13.720 it's a perfect day for beer.

00:24:15.740 That's good,

00:24:16.360 man.

00:24:17.180 But it's just crazy that AI wrote that.

00:24:18.720 Like,

00:24:18.840 it's just somebody just put it in.

00:24:20.400 Dude,

00:24:20.480 AI is nuts,

00:24:21.340 man.

00:24:21.680 It's just making beer songs.

00:24:22.860 I was talking to my mom about AI this morning,

00:24:24.920 but that,

00:24:25.560 that is,

00:24:26.520 I mean,

00:24:27.020 you know,

00:24:27.680 could be a hit.

00:24:28.240 Yeah.

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00:28:18.400 if your little nephews

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00:28:25.880 What are you listening to

00:28:30.580 right now, man?

00:28:31.560 I know everybody asks that.

00:28:33.160 That's a good question.

00:28:34.040 I've been trying to find

00:28:35.100 new stuff to listen to.

00:28:35.880 I don't find a whole lot

00:28:36.580 of new stuff to listen to.

00:28:37.620 I've been listening to like old...

00:28:39.460 I mostly only listen to music

00:28:40.760 if I'm driving

00:28:41.460 or if I'm working out.

00:28:42.360 That's about the only time

00:28:43.040 I listen to music,

00:28:43.660 which I do those things

00:28:45.000 a decent amount, you know?

00:28:46.140 Kind of same, man.

00:28:46.840 That's kind of when I do it.

00:28:47.920 Yeah.

00:28:50.580 Steven Wilson,

00:28:51.260 I've been listening to.

00:28:52.220 Yeah, he's good.

00:28:53.540 He's really good.

00:28:54.200 He's a great lyricist.

00:28:55.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:55.460 He's a special talent.

00:28:56.860 That song about his...

00:28:58.120 My father's son.

00:28:59.240 Hardy played that one with him.

00:29:00.580 God, that's good.

00:29:01.500 Yeah, that guy is

00:29:02.140 really, really good.

00:29:03.340 Zach Top's voice

00:29:04.180 is really amazing.

00:29:05.220 I don't listen to

00:29:06.440 country music a whole lot.

00:29:07.840 I think I've always

00:29:08.580 kind of been that way.

00:29:09.280 I know who Zach Top is

00:29:10.620 and I do agree.

00:29:11.560 He's very solid.

00:29:13.700 Jesse Murph,

00:29:14.360 Big X to the plug.

00:29:14.940 You've heard that song?

00:29:15.740 Uh-uh.

00:29:16.960 No.

00:29:17.360 They have a collab

00:29:17.940 that's pretty dope.

00:29:18.780 That's cool.

00:29:19.320 Yeah, it's good.

00:29:20.620 Me and Big X,

00:29:21.900 we almost did a song.

00:29:24.200 But I don't know.

00:29:25.020 I didn't.

00:29:25.380 I actually sent him a song

00:29:26.760 and he didn't finish it.

00:29:27.740 So, I don't know.

00:29:28.880 That's on him.

00:29:31.240 I guess,

00:29:32.000 I don't know what he was doing.

00:29:33.160 He was in jail.

00:29:34.340 Did he?

00:29:35.140 I think so, yeah.

00:29:35.960 For what?

00:29:36.280 Not a long time.

00:29:37.180 Not long enough.

00:29:37.900 I went to jail too, man.

00:29:41.960 Hey, Big X,

00:29:42.840 we're doing it.

00:29:44.100 Hey, if you're behind bars,

00:29:45.320 write a couple.

00:29:45.940 Yeah, I know.

00:29:46.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:29:46.960 No, it was kind of

00:29:50.020 spur-of-the-moment thing, though.

00:29:51.080 I got a song on my record

00:29:52.180 called Miami.

00:29:54.300 I haven't heard that one yet.

00:29:55.320 They sent me a couple of the songs.

00:29:56.400 Did they?

00:29:56.840 Yeah, it's cool, man.

00:29:57.660 Yeah, Miami.

00:29:57.920 It's a Keith Whitley flip.

00:30:00.660 So, it's like an old,

00:30:01.460 you know,

00:30:01.740 Miami, Miami, that song?

00:30:03.080 Have you ever heard that?

00:30:04.360 Miami, Miami,

00:30:06.920 what took you so long?

00:30:08.820 Why don't you never call?

00:30:12.660 Oh, no, I've never seen it.

00:30:13.700 People talk about Keith Whitley.

00:30:14.600 That's one of his, like,

00:30:15.660 bigger type songs, I guess.

00:30:17.020 But we flipped it

00:30:17.780 and turned it into more of like a,

00:30:19.520 it's a little more like rap style.

00:30:21.700 But it's cool, man.

00:30:24.100 I like it.

00:30:24.720 Yeah.

00:30:24.960 It's cool.

00:30:25.420 It seemed like it could use

00:30:26.520 a rapper on there.

00:30:28.540 I didn't end up using a feature.

00:30:29.960 We ended up just making a second verse.

00:30:31.640 But it's one of those songs

00:30:33.580 where I could,

00:30:34.080 it wouldn't be surprising

00:30:34.900 if we got like a remix

00:30:37.100 and did that,

00:30:37.860 you know what I mean,

00:30:38.260 once it's out

00:30:38.820 and all that stuff.

00:30:40.300 What, you're famous,

00:30:41.860 like you guys had this whole,

00:30:43.180 like these different

00:30:44.420 walkouts that you did

00:30:45.340 over the years, right?

00:30:46.200 Really fun.

00:30:46.740 And thanks for letting me be

00:30:47.500 part of the one in Nashville.

00:30:48.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:50.400 What would,

00:30:50.900 do you have a favorite one

00:30:51.700 that kind of stood out to you?

00:30:52.840 And no judgment to any of them.

00:30:53.960 What was it?

00:30:54.160 I mean,

00:30:55.180 Neyland Stadium is,

00:30:56.580 you know,

00:30:57.200 that's my home.

00:30:58.040 That's where I grew up

00:30:59.280 watching games.

00:31:00.180 And Peyton put those pads on?

00:31:01.220 Peyton, that one was really good.

00:31:02.440 The baseball team one we did

00:31:03.440 was really good too.

00:31:04.120 But that Peyton one,

00:31:06.200 that was,

00:31:06.720 that was one of the,

00:31:07.680 you know,

00:31:08.100 it's hard to beat.

00:31:09.060 Anything that happened

00:31:09.960 those two nights

00:31:11.140 at that stadium,

00:31:11.720 I find myself just being like,

00:31:13.780 yeah,

00:31:13.980 that's,

00:31:14.540 that's pretty,

00:31:15.340 those,

00:31:15.660 those are like the,

00:31:16.840 you know,

00:31:17.180 some of the best memories

00:31:18.000 I've had.

00:31:18.720 Yeah.

00:31:20.100 Oh, yeah.

00:31:20.760 With shows.

00:31:21.060 So sick.

00:31:23.320 He's so ridiculous.

00:31:23.880 He came out looking

00:31:24.620 like he was actually

00:31:25.560 about to go play

00:31:26.160 with his facial expressions

00:31:28.180 and stuff.

00:31:29.220 Hey,

00:31:29.500 I think half the,

00:31:30.400 the boosters wanted to,

00:31:31.700 some,

00:31:32.080 some boosters

00:31:32.860 I think were trying

00:31:33.460 to holler at him.

00:31:34.360 Probably.

00:31:35.600 Hey, man,

00:31:35.920 you got another year

00:31:36.700 of eligibility.

00:31:37.320 Yeah, man,

00:31:41.040 that was special,

00:31:42.000 dude.

00:31:42.280 So cool.

00:31:43.740 Yeah,

00:31:43.880 but the walkouts are,

00:31:45.220 they're just,

00:31:46.540 the energy that comes

00:31:47.580 from those,

00:31:48.080 it just could last you,

00:31:50.140 I mean,

00:31:50.540 maybe not the entire show,

00:31:51.900 but it'll last you a while,

00:31:52.920 you know,

00:31:53.100 and then once you get out there

00:31:54.100 and compound the energy

00:31:55.500 that comes along

00:31:56.900 with the actual show,

00:31:57.960 it's just,

00:31:58.880 it's a,

00:31:59.440 it's a rush.

00:32:01.200 Oh, yeah.

00:32:02.900 Yeah,

00:32:03.340 there's that coach

00:32:04.020 right there

00:32:04.420 that we put that water on.

00:32:06.040 Yeah,

00:32:06.300 Hypal?

00:32:06.760 Yeah.

00:32:07.840 Oh,

00:32:08.040 he's thugging,

00:32:08.660 he's big thugging right there.

00:32:09.600 He was, dude.

00:32:12.280 What else has happened?

00:32:13.340 So,

00:32:14.180 you have your,

00:32:15.280 the first time

00:32:16.500 you're going to play

00:32:16.980 your new album

00:32:17.660 will be at

00:32:19.020 Sand In My Boots Fest?

00:32:20.260 I'll play some

00:32:20.900 of my album there.

00:32:21.980 Okay.

00:32:23.480 You know,

00:32:24.000 the album comes out

00:32:24.600 on the 16th,

00:32:25.240 I'll play on the 18th.

00:32:27.200 I'll probably,

00:32:27.700 I'll play some

00:32:28.420 of the new stuff.

00:32:30.240 That's another thing,

00:32:31.280 man,

00:32:31.360 it's hard to,

00:32:32.600 it's hard picking set lists

00:32:33.860 at this point too.

00:32:35.300 Oh.

00:32:35.700 You know,

00:32:36.180 that gets real tricky.

00:32:37.760 Do you do that yourself?

00:32:38.800 You kind of organize it?

00:32:39.720 Yeah,

00:32:40.100 me and,

00:32:40.660 me and my band

00:32:41.380 do it together.

00:32:44.340 You know,

00:32:45.100 it's,

00:32:45.580 a lot of it's,

00:32:47.240 a lot of it's

00:32:48.820 data driven,

00:32:50.020 you know,

00:32:50.480 because you can see,

00:32:51.600 you know which songs people,

00:32:52.740 the majority of people

00:32:54.440 want to hear like,

00:32:56.200 you're always going to miss

00:32:57.400 somebody's favorite song.

00:32:58.760 You're probably going to miss

00:32:59.360 my favorite song,

00:33:00.380 you know,

00:33:00.720 in some sets.

00:33:03.540 Just trying to figure out

00:33:04.420 a way this year,

00:33:05.020 since I'm,

00:33:05.320 you know,

00:33:05.480 I'm only playing 20 shows,

00:33:07.020 so probably,

00:33:08.440 if I can,

00:33:10.900 try to figure out a way

00:33:11.860 to not play the same set list

00:33:13.540 all the time,

00:33:14.760 you know,

00:33:15.060 because last year,

00:33:15.660 I'd have interchanged

00:33:17.020 a couple,

00:33:18.400 but I think it's going to be,

00:33:20.040 I'm going to make a bigger effort

00:33:21.620 to try to make

00:33:22.360 the set list different

00:33:23.680 for at least each night,

00:33:25.520 you know,

00:33:25.840 maybe not every single show

00:33:27.760 will be a different set list,

00:33:28.720 but like night one,

00:33:29.500 night two,

00:33:30.220 because we're playing

00:33:31.000 two nights in each place,

00:33:32.400 so night,

00:33:33.360 you know,

00:33:33.780 trying to separate

00:33:34.680 the two nights

00:33:35.900 as far as music goes,

00:33:37.600 should be,

00:33:38.000 should be interesting,

00:33:38.760 because we've never done that before.

00:33:40.460 We would,

00:33:40.800 we would always just do like,

00:33:41.880 maybe change one or two songs,

00:33:43.360 you know,

00:33:43.500 I'm thinking maybe

00:33:44.040 a little more than that,

00:33:44.940 so.

00:33:45.300 I like that.

00:33:45.960 Yeah,

00:33:46.120 that way,

00:33:46.440 if he wanted to come

00:33:46.980 for both nights too,

00:33:47.700 they could and hear

00:33:48.160 different stuff too.

00:33:48.820 Yeah,

00:33:48.840 and a lot of people

00:33:49.300 already do come both nights,

00:33:50.480 so that would be nice

00:33:51.040 for them too.

00:33:51.740 Yeah.

00:33:52.660 There's really no way

00:33:53.560 to do it perfectly.

00:33:55.140 Somebody's going to be

00:33:55.900 disappointed or,

00:33:56.880 you know,

00:33:57.500 at any point,

00:33:58.520 oh,

00:33:58.660 he didn't play this song

00:33:59.480 or he didn't play that song,

00:34:00.340 but trying our best.

00:34:01.420 I'm not going to play

00:34:01.940 for four hours either,

00:34:02.960 so,

00:34:03.400 you know.

00:34:03.920 Yeah.

00:34:04.360 You got to

00:34:04.920 keep it within reason.

00:34:06.740 We got to meet

00:34:07.220 in the middle guys.

00:34:08.160 Yeah,

00:34:08.180 yeah,

00:34:13.500 maybe a little longer

00:34:14.940 than two hours.

00:34:15.600 You put it on,

00:34:16.440 man.

00:34:17.040 Like,

00:34:17.500 my show,

00:34:18.120 like,

00:34:18.280 I'll be out there

00:34:18.720 for maybe about an hour

00:34:19.560 and 15 minutes

00:34:21.000 is probably the sweet spot

00:34:22.180 for me to be on stage,

00:34:23.400 I think,

00:34:23.760 with a comedian

00:34:24.280 where they're just,

00:34:25.240 because we don't have

00:34:25.740 any backup instruments,

00:34:26.780 so people are like,

00:34:27.500 fuck,

00:34:27.820 somebody tapping a violin

00:34:29.300 or something with this bastard,

00:34:30.600 you know,

00:34:30.780 people get a little bit tired

00:34:31.740 of it.

00:34:32.560 But I can't,

00:34:33.580 and that burns me out,

00:34:34.740 man.

00:34:34.940 I used to do two shows

00:34:35.740 and I only do one a night,

00:34:37.140 but I can't imagine.

00:34:37.700 Oh,

00:34:37.820 you used to do two shows

00:34:38.640 in one night?

00:34:39.380 Yeah.

00:34:40.360 Back to back?

00:34:41.400 Yeah.

00:34:42.320 When you first started,

00:34:43.160 I think I remember

00:34:44.020 you telling me that.

00:34:44.740 Yeah,

00:34:44.920 I think,

00:34:45.160 like,

00:34:45.300 even whenever I first came to town,

00:34:46.460 you guys came one night

00:34:47.620 and saw me over at Zaney's,

00:34:49.480 man.

00:34:49.700 Yeah,

00:34:49.720 yeah.

00:34:50.080 That was cool.

00:34:50.880 And you came and did my podcast

00:34:51.980 early,

00:34:52.380 man,

00:34:52.540 and that helped me,

00:34:53.400 it helped give me some,

00:34:55.160 just support in the community.

00:34:57.800 I didn't even realize

00:34:58.460 it was early,

00:34:58.960 because to me,

00:34:59.440 I'd been listening to you

00:35:00.300 for,

00:35:00.680 like,

00:35:00.960 a little while,

00:35:01.660 you know,

00:35:01.840 so I already knew you

00:35:02.900 and knew about you

00:35:03.980 and knew your story

00:35:04.540 and everything,

00:35:05.060 so it wasn't like,

00:35:06.500 hey,

00:35:06.660 come do this weird

00:35:07.760 new guy's podcast.

00:35:08.700 I already knew who you were,

00:35:09.760 so.

00:35:10.240 Well,

00:35:10.440 it was just support,

00:35:11.080 you know,

00:35:11.360 it was nice to have

00:35:11.960 some support,

00:35:12.480 right,

00:35:12.580 when I got into town.

00:35:13.660 Yeah,

00:35:13.760 yeah,

00:35:13.920 no,

00:35:14.120 I'm glad,

00:35:14.500 I'm glad we got to do it,

00:35:15.400 man.

00:35:15.560 Damn,

00:35:15.740 that was in 2020.

00:35:17.220 Was it really?

00:35:18.720 God.

00:35:19.560 Dang,

00:35:20.020 bro,

00:35:20.120 look how happy you were.

00:35:22.100 I think I got,

00:35:23.040 I'm joking,

00:35:23.860 dude,

00:35:24.140 we both look happy,

00:35:25.100 that's the pictures we picked.

00:35:26.160 I look like I'm in pain,

00:35:27.140 you look like you just

00:35:27.840 came from the dentist.

00:35:28.840 I look so white.

00:35:30.540 Yeah,

00:35:30.860 I think we had some,

00:35:31.680 we had bad lighting then.

00:35:33.260 Golly.

00:35:33.860 We bought some better lights.

00:35:35.840 Looking pasty,

00:35:36.800 boy.

00:35:39.460 What,

00:35:39.900 what's up with the free time now?

00:35:41.600 So you go hunting,

00:35:42.640 where do you guys like to go?

00:35:44.300 Well,

00:35:44.660 all over the place,

00:35:45.680 man,

00:35:45.820 I got a farm outside of town

00:35:47.900 that we've been,

00:35:49.240 you know,

00:35:49.880 planting and getting all the agriculture right.

00:35:57.240 I don't think you've been to my farm,

00:35:58.680 have you?

00:35:59.020 Oh no,

00:35:59.300 I may have just been to your house.

00:36:00.000 Yeah,

00:36:00.200 you've just been to my house,

00:36:01.160 I believe.

00:36:01.600 But yeah,

00:36:02.020 so we got deer and turkeys down there.

00:36:04.500 Oh yeah.

00:36:05.460 So that's pretty much what it's geared towards.

00:36:08.040 It's a really good,

00:36:09.020 we bought it,

00:36:10.300 it was already a really good turkey farm.

00:36:13.120 And then we've just been adding a lot of the agriculture

00:36:16.220 and all that stuff to try to make it a better deer farm.

00:36:19.980 What makes a good setup like that?

00:36:21.540 Like what's the best way to make it set up

00:36:23.240 where it's challenging to the hunter,

00:36:25.340 but also like.

00:36:26.180 I mean,

00:36:26.400 it's always going to be challenging when deer hunting,

00:36:28.580 just,

00:36:28.860 you know,

00:36:29.200 because you only get to kill two bucks in a season,

00:36:33.460 in a state,

00:36:34.020 you know,

00:36:34.220 so you're not,

00:36:34.900 you're not just going to go out there

00:36:36.740 and shoot everything you see.

00:36:38.160 Oh.

00:36:38.920 You know what I mean?

00:36:39.380 Like you,

00:36:39.780 you may let a really good deer walk

00:36:41.560 because you're trying to get a better,

00:36:42.860 you know that there's a better deer in the area

00:36:45.980 or you believe there's a better deer in the area,

00:36:49.040 you know,

00:36:49.280 like we have cameras and stuff now,

00:36:50.500 so we can kind of take inventory on stuff,

00:36:52.820 but you're not,

00:36:55.560 you don't,

00:36:56.000 I think people,

00:36:56.800 I don't know what people think about hunting,

00:36:57.980 but like you don't just go out there

00:36:59.140 and just massacre animals,

00:37:00.560 you know what I mean?

00:37:00.880 You're not out there with a handgun or nothing.

00:37:02.320 No,

00:37:02.780 but I mean,

00:37:04.080 it's,

00:37:04.600 it's interesting.

00:37:06.420 I mean,

00:37:06.580 the main thing is food,

00:37:08.080 you know,

00:37:08.600 food and bedding.

00:37:09.540 That's,

00:37:09.880 that's really all.

00:37:10.560 That's what,

00:37:10.980 those are the two main things that you need

00:37:12.940 to have a good hunting farm.

00:37:14.500 Okay.

00:37:14.920 As long as you got their,

00:37:16.120 the type of bedding that they want

00:37:17.780 and preferably the type of food that they want,

00:37:20.920 then you're going to keep those deer on your farm

00:37:23.060 because they ain't going to,

00:37:23.760 they don't need to leave to go find either one of those.

00:37:26.160 Right.

00:37:26.320 They're happy.

00:37:26.720 So they'll stay in their home range

00:37:27.940 and they'll stay there and you can grow them,

00:37:29.320 you know,

00:37:29.480 like we don't want to,

00:37:30.740 at least try to get them to be five years old.

00:37:34.180 And that's,

00:37:34.760 that's minimum that what we want to do.

00:37:37.340 You know,

00:37:37.840 depending on where you're at in the country,

00:37:39.600 people will let them get older.

00:37:41.440 It's,

00:37:41.860 it's a little different.

00:37:42.580 I think depending on your land,

00:37:44.320 depending,

00:37:44.640 cause you know,

00:37:45.000 like if you,

00:37:45.740 if you spend all this time and money

00:37:47.900 and then you got your neighbor who,

00:37:50.100 if your deer walks across to their property line,

00:37:52.940 they might shoot it before you,

00:37:54.560 you were planning on shooting it.

00:37:56.040 So,

00:37:56.400 you know,

00:37:56.560 it's,

00:37:56.780 it's a little bit of a,

00:37:57.700 it can be a little bit of a game.

00:38:00.320 So there can be property beef,

00:38:01.840 property line beef like that.

00:38:03.120 Oh yeah.

00:38:03.700 There's all kinds of that going on.

00:38:05.200 Damn.

00:38:05.680 Yeah.

00:38:06.000 There's a lot of hunting property line beef.

00:38:07.920 And what about reindeer?

00:38:09.020 Do you ever see reindeer out there or not?

00:38:11.140 I personally came across one.

00:38:13.740 My son did just get a reindeer call.

00:38:16.060 And one of my,

00:38:16.580 one of my buddies from,

00:38:17.720 from Alabama made him a reindeer call.

00:38:20.940 No way for Christmas.

00:38:21.800 Yeah.

00:38:21.980 Yeah.

00:38:22.180 Oh,

00:38:22.580 it's hilarious.

00:38:23.300 It was cool.

00:38:24.080 Bro,

00:38:24.260 you got to use that with him.

00:38:25.360 That's pretty cool.

00:38:27.080 Imagine that,

00:38:27.860 dude,

00:38:27.980 you're a kid and you think it was a nice reindeer call.

00:38:30.300 You're bringing in Santa,

00:38:31.280 dude.

00:38:31.720 Yeah.

00:38:31.920 He thinks that's what he's doing.

00:38:33.460 I mean,

00:38:34.220 that's,

00:38:34.580 that would be,

00:38:35.040 I don't even think he's actually tried it.

00:38:36.780 Like he,

00:38:37.940 uh,

00:38:39.580 I guess that was probably last,

00:38:40.880 last Christmas.

00:38:41.800 So he's just,

00:38:43.020 he's came,

00:38:43.700 he's just got a lot of new interest and stuff this year.

00:38:46.240 So I think I was,

00:38:47.660 I came home this,

00:38:48.840 this past weekend and I was working on my turkey call just in my mouth,

00:38:51.680 you know,

00:38:51.880 and he,

00:38:52.160 he was trying to like mimic me and stuff.

00:38:54.380 It was,

00:38:54.700 it was hilarious.

00:38:56.560 He's just screaming basically.

00:38:57.760 Is it fun to watch him kind of grow?

00:39:02.620 Like what,

00:39:02.980 has it been interesting?

00:39:03.800 Is there moments where you see him learn something and you almost see him learn it?

00:39:06.820 Like,

00:39:06.980 does that kind of happen?

00:39:08.080 Yeah,

00:39:08.300 it's cool.

00:39:08.720 Like I,

00:39:09.680 I've been working on him on how to catch and stuff,

00:39:12.340 you know,

00:39:12.780 I've just been using like a,

00:39:13.940 a soft basketball that I've got one of those,

00:39:17.240 you know,

00:39:17.560 just basketball goals.

00:39:18.880 You hang up on the door and,

00:39:20.100 Oh yeah,

00:39:20.300 there's just so much fun.

00:39:21.420 I use it more than him still.

00:39:23.120 Yeah.

00:39:24.660 You're just making him rebound for you.

00:39:26.320 Yeah.

00:39:26.740 Every time I'm on a phone,

00:39:27.840 I'll just put my headphones in and just start shooting for like 30 minutes.

00:39:32.480 Since it's been cold,

00:39:33.460 especially.

00:39:34.120 Yeah.

00:39:36.180 But yeah,

00:39:36.800 just,

00:39:37.840 you know,

00:39:38.340 when I first,

00:39:38.940 when we first started,

00:39:39.680 he couldn't do it.

00:39:40.840 And then,

00:39:41.140 you know,

00:39:41.400 a couple of weeks later,

00:39:42.140 he's like catching and,

00:39:44.160 you know,

00:39:44.260 you can catch a bounce pass now,

00:39:46.140 you know,

00:39:46.280 it's just like just seeing those things progress in such a short period of time is cool.

00:39:50.800 Does it make you have a different appreciation for your own dad?

00:39:52.620 Or has it adjusted y'all's relationship any,

00:39:54.240 you think?

00:39:54.540 Is that a weird question to ask?

00:39:55.660 No,

00:39:55.880 it's not a weird question.

00:39:56.840 I think.

00:39:59.220 Yeah,

00:39:59.640 I think it probably does.

00:40:01.200 You know,

00:40:01.420 I mean,

00:40:01.640 me and my dad,

00:40:02.880 we butted heads a lot growing up,

00:40:04.820 especially once I got to high school,

00:40:06.160 just because I was,

00:40:07.120 I was,

00:40:07.860 you were you,

00:40:08.320 I was kind of ridiculous.

00:40:09.460 And I think he was kind of ridiculous when he was that,

00:40:12.940 when he was that age too.

00:40:14.000 So he was just trying to,

00:40:16.000 Hey,

00:40:16.200 don't be like me when I was that age,

00:40:17.520 you know,

00:40:17.700 like I know what this turns.

00:40:19.000 I know how this ends usually.

00:40:20.940 So we just butted heads.

00:40:22.100 I didn't,

00:40:22.620 you know,

00:40:22.840 you don't believe anything your parents say when you're that age.

00:40:24.740 No,

00:40:24.940 it's the last person you want to believe.

00:40:26.200 It's so crazy.

00:40:26.620 It's not even possible.

00:40:27.720 It wasn't possible in my head to believe that.

00:40:29.920 That's crazy to think now.

00:40:31.120 I'm like,

00:40:31.320 damn,

00:40:31.480 they were right.

00:40:32.360 But in my head,

00:40:33.060 it was not physically possible to think that they could be right.

00:40:37.100 It just wasn't.

00:40:37.860 It's kind of crazy.

00:40:38.660 Cause like,

00:40:39.040 Oh,

00:40:39.140 these two people that love me and care about me and raised me this far.

00:40:42.540 They're trying to ruin my life.

00:40:45.100 Yeah.

00:40:45.520 That's what you think.

00:40:46.680 It's wild.

00:40:47.820 It's insane really.

00:40:48.980 But,

00:40:49.640 um,

00:40:50.440 that's what I thought.

00:40:51.100 But yeah,

00:40:51.400 I mean,

00:40:51.980 after,

00:40:52.720 you know,

00:40:53.120 I moved out and once I really,

00:40:55.580 once I think I got moved down here to Nashville,

00:40:57.640 that's when we,

00:40:58.280 we became closer.

00:40:59.960 Yeah.

00:41:00.620 Closer than ever.

00:41:01.220 Cause I moved here pretty young.

00:41:02.280 You know,

00:41:02.420 I was 22 when I moved here.

00:41:03.940 Yeah.

00:41:04.420 And.

00:41:05.480 Almost been here 10 years coming up.

00:41:06.820 Mm hmm.

00:41:07.440 So it's,

00:41:08.200 I think just having that space and then just being able to,

00:41:11.560 you should get older too,

00:41:12.720 you know,

00:41:13.020 and just,

00:41:13.340 Oh,

00:41:13.520 that's the biggest thing.

00:41:14.420 You're like,

00:41:14.740 Oh shit.

00:41:15.280 None of that other shit even matter.

00:41:16.220 What I'm doing.

00:41:17.040 Like,

00:41:17.260 yeah,

00:41:17.380 you may,

00:41:17.800 maybe you could have went about it a little different or whatever.

00:41:19.920 Yeah.

00:41:20.100 But like the intentions were right.

00:41:22.040 Yeah.

00:41:22.360 I mean,

00:41:22.540 I just got spending time with my mom is like a lot of my life.

00:41:25.100 It's like,

00:41:25.360 I'm waiting for my mom to like show me certain attention or affection or something.

00:41:29.360 The other night we're just sitting there,

00:41:30.420 we're watching at the Opry and she went there like 40 years ago or something,

00:41:34.480 you know?

00:41:35.240 And,

00:41:35.680 um,

00:41:37.000 and I'm like,

00:41:38.240 it's kind of stupid,

00:41:39.020 but I just reached over and grabbed my mom's hand,

00:41:40.820 you know?

00:41:41.060 Cause it's like,

00:41:42.040 it's not about me being a kid anymore.

00:41:43.500 It's just about me being,

00:41:44.940 she's an older woman now.

00:41:46.440 So it's like,

00:41:46.960 let me just be an adult and almost act like I'm the parent,

00:41:50.120 you know,

00:41:50.580 I'm not the parent now,

00:41:51.360 but let me,

00:41:52.820 I don't know.

00:41:53.040 There's an old part of me,

00:41:53.760 like a child part of me would be like,

00:41:54.900 Oh man,

00:41:55.340 it's my brother.

00:41:55.860 I wish my mom would,

00:41:56.460 you know,

00:41:56.640 pat me on the back,

00:41:57.400 just do something,

00:41:58.140 you know,

00:41:58.240 show me a little bit of love or something.

00:41:59.480 But then I just grabbed her hand and then we just watched it together.

00:42:01.900 And it was like me kind of,

00:42:03.400 I don't know,

00:42:03.620 it was a little moment for me where I was like,

00:42:05.560 I'm not going to be that old grudge.

00:42:09.420 I'm just going to move forward.

00:42:10.940 You know?

00:42:11.160 That's cool.

00:42:11.780 Yeah.

00:42:12.140 But it was just interesting.

00:42:13.160 Or I just,

00:42:13.560 or just to get my mom a hug while we're sitting there,

00:42:15.400 you know,

00:42:15.640 just like,

00:42:16.080 you know,

00:42:16.920 me and my mom,

00:42:17.520 my mom always,

00:42:18.200 we always had like a super,

00:42:19.600 super good relationship.

00:42:20.760 She was always loving and stuff,

00:42:22.020 you know?

00:42:22.300 So I,

00:42:22.620 I just,

00:42:23.100 I felt all that for my mom,

00:42:24.520 but me and my dad,

00:42:25.660 you know,

00:42:25.780 like I said,

00:42:26.220 we butted heads.

00:42:27.040 So it was more of just getting past that phase in my life.

00:42:30.080 But for,

00:42:30.620 I didn't,

00:42:32.440 once it was,

00:42:33.160 once that phase was over,

00:42:34.620 it was over.

00:42:35.360 Right.

00:42:35.680 To me.

00:42:36.200 Yeah.

00:42:36.440 You know,

00:42:36.640 I wasn't,

00:42:36.980 I don't,

00:42:37.320 I don't have any sort of hard feelings towards it.

00:42:39.660 Oh yeah.

00:42:40.320 Dude,

00:42:40.520 your dad is so funny,

00:42:41.620 dude.

00:42:41.740 Right when I see him,

00:42:42.740 my face just fucking smiles.

00:42:45.100 Me too.

00:42:45.840 He's just energetic.

00:42:46.980 He's chipper.

00:42:47.480 You said he was chipper.

00:42:48.180 That's the right word for him.

00:42:49.060 And he's been fasting for like 700 days.

00:42:51.420 Yeah.

00:42:51.860 I don't,

00:42:52.380 at this point,

00:42:52.900 I don't know.

00:42:53.500 Oh,

00:42:53.620 he ain't fasting right now.

00:42:55.540 I've been seeing this man eat during,

00:42:57.460 during this trip.

00:42:58.200 He's been down here.

00:42:58.920 He ain't fasting.

00:42:59.760 Don't let him lie to you.

00:43:01.280 Cause I've been basically,

00:43:02.480 I've been,

00:43:02.900 you know,

00:43:03.160 eating clean and stuff,

00:43:04.200 trying to get ready for tour and all that.

00:43:06.480 And they're,

00:43:07.580 you know,

00:43:08.500 bribing me with all these hamburgers and stuff.

00:43:11.420 I'm like,

00:43:11.760 man,

00:43:12.520 go cook at somewhere else.

00:43:14.840 What,

00:43:15.300 uh,

00:43:15.860 what about motorcycling?

00:43:17.080 You,

00:43:17.260 you,

00:43:17.460 you got a motorcycle.

00:43:18.300 I remember last time you were talking about,

00:43:20.040 did you get one?

00:43:20.620 Yeah,

00:43:20.740 I got it.

00:43:21.440 Oh,

00:43:21.600 you have a Harley hat on today.

00:43:22.640 I do.

00:43:23.040 Yeah.

00:43:23.200 Gang gang.

00:43:23.840 That's nice,

00:43:24.280 dude.

00:43:24.380 Let's go,

00:43:24.600 baby.

00:43:24.860 That's a,

00:43:25.860 I got this awesome like vintage thing.

00:43:28.220 Yeah,

00:43:28.400 that's tough.

00:43:29.080 Um,

00:43:30.320 yeah,

00:43:30.840 man,

00:43:31.100 I,

00:43:31.360 I enjoy it.

00:43:32.660 You do?

00:43:33.160 Yeah.

00:43:33.700 Which I,

00:43:34.140 I kind of had ridden dirt bikes and stuff a little bit,

00:43:36.560 you know,

00:43:36.840 enough to understand my way around a bike already.

00:43:40.140 Right.

00:43:40.420 Um,

00:43:41.860 so me and Cody and TD and a few,

00:43:46.340 a few other of us,

00:43:47.480 a few others,

00:43:48.580 we all got bikes.

00:43:50.120 So that shit,

00:43:50.800 I'll buy the cologne,

00:43:51.800 whatever they're selling right there.

00:43:52.960 It does look like that.

00:43:54.180 It really does.

00:43:55.080 Huh?

00:43:56.060 Exhaust by Morgan Wallen.

00:43:57.820 Exhaust.

00:44:00.260 Smells like a fart.

00:44:01.320 That wouldn't be a bad cologne though,

00:44:04.000 dude.

00:44:04.840 Smells like Morgan Wallen's farts,

00:44:06.600 man.

00:44:08.040 What if you had a blow to start that thing?

00:44:10.260 What if you had a fucking,

00:44:11.520 one of those breath things on?

00:44:14.180 I'm surprised I don't.

00:44:16.100 I'm surprised I don't.

00:44:16.780 Has anybody ever had a motorbike that has that on it?

00:44:19.240 I'm sure they have.

00:44:21.080 I'm surprised I don't have that on every vehicle I've got.

00:44:24.180 Shout out to Davidson County.

00:44:26.860 Um,

00:44:27.420 uh,

00:44:29.520 sorry,

00:44:30.180 man.

00:44:30.380 That's hilarious.

00:44:30.940 No,

00:44:31.340 that's a handsome picture,

00:44:32.280 man.

00:44:32.400 That looks nice.

00:44:33.280 Thanks,

00:44:33.520 man.

00:44:33.600 But you get out there.

00:44:34.600 I like it because it's like,

00:44:37.060 you got your helmet on.

00:44:37.980 Nobody knows who you are.

00:44:39.600 You get out there.

00:44:40.380 You got to focus on it too.

00:44:41.640 You got to be,

00:44:42.420 you ain't on your phone.

00:44:43.700 You know,

00:44:44.140 you ain't doing anything else.

00:44:45.300 You just thinking about what you got to do on that bike.

00:44:48.120 Yeah.

00:44:48.400 So I enjoy that aspect of it a lot.

00:44:50.520 You like,

00:44:51.620 at least me,

00:44:52.760 I physically can't do anything else other than,

00:44:54.760 you know,

00:44:55.080 think about what's going on on this bike.

00:44:56.900 Be locked in.

00:44:57.580 Yeah.

00:44:57.960 So I like that aspect of a lot,

00:44:59.600 you know,

00:44:59.740 you'll be riding and then all of a sudden it's five hours have gone by and

00:45:03.060 you just don't realize that that happened.

00:45:05.060 Yeah.

00:45:05.820 Damn.

00:45:06.360 I got to get out there sometime.

00:45:07.580 I'm just so bad.

00:45:08.720 I'm bad at being in motion.

00:45:10.900 Well,

00:45:11.100 that might not be for you.

00:45:12.140 Yeah.

00:45:12.400 I'm better.

00:45:14.000 I'm better.

00:45:15.120 What do you mean?

00:45:16.000 Wait,

00:45:16.180 what do you mean?

00:45:16.660 Keep going.

00:45:17.300 I'm bad at just like being in motion and having to think at the same time.

00:45:20.960 I'm more of a stop and think.

00:45:23.620 Well,

00:45:24.160 then move.

00:45:24.860 What are you,

00:45:25.180 what are we thinking about?

00:45:26.260 Just anything,

00:45:26.920 whatever the next thing has to be.

00:45:28.300 It's just hard for me.

00:45:29.180 Like I get,

00:45:29.920 I just,

00:45:30.400 I think you can just be in the back of the line then.

00:45:32.980 Yeah.

00:45:33.620 You can just follow us.

00:45:35.320 Yeah.

00:45:36.040 Yeah.

00:45:36.200 I would be a good,

00:45:36.900 yeah.

00:45:37.020 I don't want to be at the front.

00:45:37.880 Okay.

00:45:38.300 Yeah.

00:45:38.580 Or the middle.

00:45:39.200 The middle is probably the safest anyway.

00:45:40.620 You can be in the middle because you're protected in the back.

00:45:43.740 You're protected in the front.

00:45:44.940 You don't have to make any decisions.

00:45:46.400 You just follow the decisions.

00:45:48.220 That's where I need to be then.

00:45:49.820 I don't,

00:45:50.080 I am.

00:45:50.480 You should take,

00:45:51.260 what's Harry.

00:45:52.100 You should go take Harry's motorcycle class.

00:45:54.020 That's who we took our class for.

00:45:55.100 Really?

00:45:55.540 He was good.

00:45:56.280 Yeah.

00:45:56.780 I mean,

00:45:57.160 I learned things I didn't know.

00:45:58.640 Yeah.

00:45:58.880 You know,

00:45:59.220 it was,

00:45:59.940 it wasn't easy necessarily either.

00:46:02.160 You know,

00:46:02.360 there was things that were challenging.

00:46:04.940 Do y'all go in a pack when y'all go out there?

00:46:06.580 I've ridden a couple of times by myself,

00:46:08.280 but I would have somebody following me,

00:46:09.820 you know,

00:46:09.940 like my security or just anyone.

00:46:13.140 But we mostly just ride at least in groups of two.

00:46:16.080 Yeah.

00:46:16.440 A lot of times groups of four.

00:46:18.620 That's tough,

00:46:19.240 man.

00:46:19.380 Yeah.

00:46:20.040 Maybe I'll have to get out there.

00:46:21.140 I got to pray about that.

00:46:22.060 Yeah.

00:46:22.180 I don't want to,

00:46:22.700 don't let me,

00:46:23.360 I'm not influencing you at all.

00:46:25.000 Yeah.

00:46:25.220 Yeah.

00:46:25.520 Okay.

00:46:25.740 Thank you.

00:46:26.100 Yeah.

00:46:26.260 Yeah.

00:46:26.840 Yeah.

00:46:27.060 I don't want to be out there.

00:46:29.480 I'm the problem.

00:46:30.680 You can just get in the sidecar.

00:46:31.640 You can get a little German sidecar.

00:46:38.180 Yeah,

00:46:38.600 dude,

00:46:38.860 your cousin Andrew and I are friends,

00:46:40.640 man.

00:46:41.400 Yeah.

00:46:41.880 He's a classic dude.

00:46:42.760 He is.

00:46:43.280 Okay.

00:46:43.800 Your family is funny,

00:46:45.220 dude.

00:46:45.680 You guys have a lot of characters in our family.

00:46:47.580 That's what you have,

00:46:48.460 dude.

00:46:48.620 Even when I remember you first told me,

00:46:49.940 I met you about your uncle David or something.

00:46:51.520 My uncle David.

00:46:52.220 Oh yeah.

00:46:53.220 And then just different people you would tell me and then getting to meet your dad.

00:46:56.800 And then,

00:46:57.220 uh,

00:46:57.460 yeah,

00:46:57.640 Andrew and I become friends over the years.

00:46:59.080 He's,

00:46:59.400 he's hilarious,

00:47:00.400 dude.

00:47:00.980 Yeah,

00:47:01.280 he definitely is hilarious.

00:47:02.340 Went fishing with him.

00:47:04.160 He fucked,

00:47:04.640 dude,

00:47:04.800 that dude will,

00:47:05.500 he'll put a damn,

00:47:06.980 he'll start fishing anywhere.

00:47:08.480 You guys buy a chase bank and he'll,

00:47:09.980 he'll cast over there and put a frog top on there.

00:47:13.340 Just cause there's a bank.

00:47:16.920 He'll catch a damn,

00:47:18.400 he'll catch a safe deposit box over there.

00:47:21.220 12 pound brother.

00:47:22.560 Oh God.

00:47:23.180 But he,

00:47:23.640 dude,

00:47:23.860 he's just good.

00:47:24.720 He took us out to some property,

00:47:26.560 him and Ben Weprin,

00:47:27.500 I think is the guy's name.

00:47:28.380 Yeah,

00:47:28.560 Ben.

00:47:28.980 Yeah.

00:47:29.560 And,

00:47:30.000 um,

00:47:30.780 and we had a blast,

00:47:31.880 man,

00:47:32.000 but he's good.

00:47:32.780 Where'd y'all go to?

00:47:33.280 Hold them all?

00:47:34.460 Uh,

00:47:34.880 no,

00:47:35.260 we went to,

00:47:36.060 um,

00:47:36.600 Oh,

00:47:36.700 you went to ease.

00:47:37.460 Yeah.

00:47:37.760 Yeah.

00:47:37.960 Yeah.

00:47:38.120 Yeah.

00:47:38.460 We went to ease and it was cool though.

00:47:39.960 I hadn't been there.

00:47:40.760 God,

00:47:41.020 that's beautiful.

00:47:41.440 That place is immaculate.

00:47:43.280 God.

00:47:44.780 Yeah,

00:47:45.140 that was good,

00:47:45.640 man.

00:47:45.720 Got some big fish in there.

00:47:47.340 It's a beautiful spot,

00:47:48.780 man.

00:47:48.880 But does he hunt with you?

00:47:50.180 Does he hunt?

00:47:50.660 Does Andrew hunt with you?

00:47:51.160 Yeah,

00:47:51.360 yeah,

00:47:51.480 yeah,

00:47:51.620 some.

00:47:52.100 He does,

00:47:52.580 yeah.

00:47:52.760 I like,

00:47:53.080 I like hunting with him.

00:47:54.800 You know,

00:47:55.300 he works for Field and Stream,

00:47:56.240 so he travels a lot doing,

00:47:57.800 doing that job,

00:47:58.600 which I think is a really good job for him.

00:48:00.440 He loves it,

00:48:01.220 man.

00:48:01.620 Yeah.

00:48:02.020 Yeah,

00:48:02.220 he's talented,

00:48:02.740 but he's hilarious,

00:48:03.480 dude.

00:48:03.880 We all keep telling him,

00:48:05.420 like,

00:48:05.620 he should have his own YouTube channel or something.

00:48:07.920 Really should,

00:48:08.600 man.

00:48:08.620 Just a series of some sort,

00:48:09.820 and this is the things that happen to that guy.

00:48:11.820 I'm like,

00:48:12.420 dude,

00:48:13.480 I don't know how this has occurred to you,

00:48:17.900 but,

00:48:18.780 you know,

00:48:19.140 the world deserves to hear this.

00:48:20.660 Yeah,

00:48:21.040 that's okay,

00:48:21.580 brother.

00:48:21.840 The world deserves to share in your pain that you're dealing with right now.

00:48:25.080 Yeah,

00:48:25.580 that's okay.

00:48:26.280 Because the things that happen to him are just unbelievable,

00:48:29.740 man.

00:48:30.700 Bro,

00:48:31.100 he's just such a good story.

00:48:32.760 Yeah,

00:48:33.080 he's,

00:48:33.460 bro,

00:48:33.840 he has been,

00:48:34.760 getting to know him has been a gift,

00:48:36.140 man.

00:48:36.820 Yeah,

00:48:37.100 he is a true,

00:48:39.120 he's a treasure,

00:48:40.480 man.

00:48:40.580 He really is.

00:48:41.240 He's a national treasure.

00:48:42.420 He's a buried treasure,

00:48:43.640 too,

00:48:43.780 I think.

00:48:44.100 I mean,

00:48:44.980 I really,

00:48:45.460 he is buried right now.

00:48:48.120 We keep,

00:48:48.640 I mean,

00:48:49.220 maybe he'll take this and he'll watch this clip and go start his channel,

00:48:53.140 you know?

00:48:53.500 He's entertaining,

00:48:54.060 yeah,

00:48:54.240 man,

00:48:54.400 he's just entertaining.

00:48:55.340 He's E to D to be around.

00:48:56.160 And yeah,

00:48:56.400 that field and stream job with him is perfect.

00:48:58.020 And he can do both.

00:48:58.740 He could have that job and do,

00:49:00.320 you know,

00:49:00.640 that could almost be part.

00:49:01.360 Or find a way to put them together.

00:49:02.660 That's what I'm saying.

00:49:03.300 It could be a part of the same thing.

00:49:04.420 You couldn't find a guy that's more perfect for that.

00:49:07.100 Has there been something nice that you kind of got yourself as a gift that you started,

00:49:10.840 you know,

00:49:11.620 feeling like you were doing pretty well and.

00:49:16.220 I mean.

00:49:17.440 A trip you took or anything?

00:49:19.560 Yeah,

00:49:19.940 I mean,

00:49:20.300 I'm,

00:49:21.060 I used to be probably a little more frugal than I am right now.

00:49:27.500 Yeah,

00:49:27.940 same.

00:49:28.420 I don't like,

00:49:29.540 I don't like going to get stuff.

00:49:30.640 I don't like shopping for stuff,

00:49:32.000 too.

00:49:32.100 Yeah.

00:49:33.860 I'm trying to think if there's anything that I was just really splurged out on.

00:49:38.460 You know,

00:49:38.600 I got a couple of watches and just things like that,

00:49:41.100 but,

00:49:41.460 and then I got a couple of nice cars.

00:49:45.820 I mean,

00:49:46.400 I don't,

00:49:47.240 I don't feel like I'm over the top big spender guy.

00:49:49.960 Yeah.

00:49:50.240 You know,

00:49:50.760 and a lot of times.

00:49:52.060 What,

00:49:52.480 what was your first car?

00:49:53.660 Do you remember it?

00:49:54.640 Yeah,

00:49:54.900 it was a Jeep Cherokee.

00:49:56.260 Was it really,

00:49:57.040 dude?

00:49:57.140 I got a fricking Jeep Cherokee,

00:49:58.460 dude.

00:49:58.900 You do right now?

00:49:59.720 Yeah.

00:50:00.120 And Los Angeles have a car there.

00:50:01.200 It's got like only 12,000 miles on it.

00:50:02.920 Oh,

00:50:03.140 this thing had a lot more than 12,000 miles on it.

00:50:05.000 Really?

00:50:05.320 Yeah.

00:50:06.320 It was a white Jeep Grand Cherokee.

00:50:08.060 I think it was a 95 if I'm,

00:50:09.480 if I'm remembering correctly.

00:50:10.740 Dude,

00:50:11.140 I like those cars.

00:50:12.680 It was not a bad car.

00:50:14.260 I mean,

00:50:15.140 it wasn't,

00:50:15.880 whoever had it,

00:50:16.740 it wasn't the most,

00:50:17.360 it was like that right there.

00:50:18.360 That's exactly what it looked like.

00:50:19.160 God,

00:50:19.580 those bitches were tough,

00:50:20.900 dude.

00:50:21.040 That's exactly what it looked like.

00:50:21.800 Yeah,

00:50:22.040 I had them Ford Escort,

00:50:23.400 84 Ford Escort.

00:50:24.560 Pull that bitch up,

00:50:25.460 dude.

00:50:25.780 If they'll even allow you,

00:50:27.500 sometimes Google won't let you look at them anymore.

00:50:30.240 Them bitches are visually outlawed.

00:50:34.040 Bro,

00:50:36.300 that shit don't cross,

00:50:37.300 it'll remodel your eye line

00:50:38.920 when you look at that bitch,

00:50:40.160 dude.

00:50:40.460 God damn,

00:50:41.520 that bitch looks horrible.

00:50:42.520 I hadn't looked at it in a few years.

00:50:45.060 I could,

00:50:45.520 I mean,

00:50:46.520 yeah,

00:50:46.820 that's pretty bad.

00:50:51.440 Especially that one on the right,

00:50:52.880 that blue one.

00:50:54.360 God.

00:50:55.040 That one pulled up.

00:50:56.120 Yeah,

00:50:56.420 yeah,

00:50:56.620 yeah.

00:50:57.540 And barely pulled up.

00:50:58.940 That bitch pulled up slow,

00:51:00.500 dude.

00:51:02.720 It's got a two cylinder in it.

00:51:06.360 Probably it had a fucking

00:51:07.640 outboard motor engine in it.

00:51:10.520 You had to steer it like

00:51:11.720 with the reverse way,

00:51:13.820 like you have to do a John boat.

00:51:15.480 Yeah,

00:51:16.200 it had a boat motor in it.

00:51:18.840 Steered it from the back.

00:51:22.360 And dude,

00:51:23.100 somebody stole my passenger seat

00:51:25.340 in that bitch.

00:51:26.240 Really?

00:51:26.820 Yeah,

00:51:27.140 so if you had some-

00:51:27.720 Was it only a two seater anyway?

00:51:29.140 No,

00:51:29.560 it had three extra little seats

00:51:30.800 in the back.

00:51:31.260 okay,

00:51:31.500 okay.

00:51:31.920 But they weren't even a bench,

00:51:33.100 it was three individual

00:51:34.140 little bitty seats.

00:51:36.680 Three booster seats

00:51:37.800 right there?

00:51:40.000 You either had to have three kids

00:51:41.560 that were triplets,

00:51:42.360 I guess,

00:51:43.140 or a couple small buddies.

00:51:44.660 But somebody had stole

00:51:45.840 my damn passenger seat,

00:51:47.200 dude.

00:51:47.700 Did you ever get it back?

00:51:48.840 Uh-uh.

00:51:49.720 Somebody were eating

00:51:50.280 at a Burger King

00:51:50.900 and somebody stole

00:51:51.560 that bitch out of there.

00:51:53.800 But then people had to get in,

00:51:56.200 they'd get in the car,

00:51:57.040 but they couldn't sit right there.

00:52:01.360 Did you put a couple blankets

00:52:02.800 down or something or what?

00:52:04.080 I don't know,

00:52:04.500 whatever,

00:52:04.980 dude.

00:52:05.700 But the one time

00:52:07.400 I picked up a dude,

00:52:08.560 I was getting him to buy me

00:52:09.280 alcohol at a gas station,

00:52:10.260 I was skipping school,

00:52:10.980 and he got in,

00:52:12.360 this kind of homeless-y

00:52:13.340 kind of guy,

00:52:14.940 and he got in

00:52:15.520 and instead of sitting

00:52:16.100 in the back,

00:52:16.480 he just got on his knees

00:52:17.560 right there

00:52:17.940 at the passenger side.

00:52:20.420 So I'm driving

00:52:21.380 and he just...

00:52:22.060 He was your friend?

00:52:22.980 I didn't know him,

00:52:23.840 no,

00:52:24.080 he's like a guy

00:52:25.080 who I gave him money

00:52:25.700 to buy me alcohol.

00:52:26.440 Oh, okay.

00:52:27.160 So,

00:52:27.820 but anyway,

00:52:28.340 I don't know why

00:52:28.660 I'm telling you all this.

00:52:29.460 Um,

00:52:32.160 I'll just clean up.

00:52:32.880 We hope you're enjoying

00:52:33.760 your Air Canada flight.

00:52:35.080 Rocky's vacation,

00:52:36.280 here we come.

00:52:37.800 Whoa,

00:52:38.440 is this economy?

00:52:39.900 Free beer,

00:52:40.680 wine,

00:52:41.160 and snacks.

00:52:42.400 Sweet.

00:52:43.460 Fast free Wi-Fi

00:52:44.420 means I can make

00:52:45.120 dinner reservations

00:52:45.860 before we land.

00:52:47.500 And with live TV,

00:52:48.800 I'm not missing the game.

00:52:50.540 It's kind of like

00:52:51.320 I'm already on vacation.

00:52:53.720 Nice.

00:52:54.780 On behalf of Air Canada,

00:52:56.540 nice travels.

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00:53:01.460 See your Canada.com.

00:53:02.580 My car.

00:53:04.280 Actually,

00:53:04.720 I did not.

00:53:05.160 That's not true.

00:53:05.760 I just,

00:53:06.240 um,

00:53:06.520 I'm gonna clean it out though.

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00:56:21.800 So you got

00:56:22.500 the new album

00:56:22.980 coming out.

00:56:23.940 Does it feel

00:56:24.720 is there a moment

00:56:25.680 where you feel

00:56:26.240 that the album

00:56:26.900 is finished?

00:56:27.620 Is there a moment

00:56:28.180 where you're like

00:56:28.680 I just can't

00:56:29.240 this is far enough?

00:56:30.720 Could you keep

00:56:31.480 going on an album

00:56:32.240 and could you keep

00:56:33.000 fine-tuning it forever?

00:56:34.300 Yes, for sure.

00:56:35.120 So that's a real

00:56:36.260 possibility you can

00:56:37.040 overdo it?

00:56:37.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:39.320 The powers that be

00:56:40.560 will give you

00:56:42.580 a deadline

00:56:43.240 if you want

00:56:44.880 certain things

00:56:45.820 to happen.

00:56:46.760 You know,

00:56:47.020 like you want

00:56:47.600 your vinyl

00:56:48.000 to be out

00:56:49.020 to be ready

00:56:50.260 by when the

00:56:50.800 record's ready.

00:56:53.060 You know,

00:56:53.680 things like that.

00:56:54.640 So you kind of

00:56:55.100 they put a

00:56:56.280 you know,

00:56:56.600 they give you a buffer

00:56:57.340 because they know

00:56:57.940 you're not going to

00:56:59.360 have it in time.

00:57:00.740 They got a buffer

00:57:01.620 for the buffer.

00:57:02.340 they got

00:57:03.360 they got like

00:57:04.480 an eight-week buffer

00:57:05.880 I think

00:57:06.340 that they put on me.

00:57:07.720 But

00:57:07.900 those time

00:57:09.100 those time

00:57:09.820 limits are

00:57:10.940 are healthy

00:57:11.880 I think,

00:57:12.400 you know,

00:57:12.640 because especially

00:57:13.320 I mean,

00:57:13.600 it's not like

00:57:14.060 we weren't working

00:57:14.860 I mean,

00:57:15.260 we worked

00:57:16.160 really hard

00:57:16.840 on this album

00:57:17.260 pretty much

00:57:17.720 since tour was over

00:57:18.880 I've been

00:57:19.360 writing and

00:57:20.420 you know,

00:57:21.760 just recording

00:57:23.040 all that.

00:57:24.280 So

00:57:24.500 I mean,

00:57:26.160 we recorded

00:57:26.820 50 or 51 songs

00:57:29.160 and cut

00:57:30.160 13 or 14.

00:57:31.400 Wow.

00:57:32.080 Really?

00:57:32.700 Yeah,

00:57:32.960 yeah.

00:57:34.300 So what happens

00:57:35.260 to a lot

00:57:35.620 you just kind of

00:57:36.140 decide this doesn't

00:57:36.760 fit here right now

00:57:37.680 or you might

00:57:37.980 Yeah,

00:57:38.220 some of the songs

00:57:38.900 were songs that I wrote

00:57:40.680 some of them weren't

00:57:41.380 so if I didn't write them

00:57:42.360 then they'll just

00:57:43.500 whatever happens to them

00:57:44.740 not up to me anymore

00:57:45.760 and then

00:57:46.740 if I did

00:57:47.520 you know,

00:57:48.520 who knows

00:57:48.920 I might make a

00:57:49.820 side project

00:57:52.020 of something

00:57:52.680 if you know

00:57:53.440 something that has

00:57:54.160 nothing to do with

00:57:55.020 my name

00:57:55.860 I've always kind of

00:57:56.640 wanted to do that anyway

00:57:57.480 you know,

00:57:58.400 just kind of

00:57:59.540 figure out

00:58:00.180 a way to

00:58:01.020 it wouldn't be my voice

00:58:02.700 it wouldn't

00:58:03.300 I don't know how you do that

00:58:04.160 I'm sure there's all kinds

00:58:05.120 of ways to go about it now

00:58:06.200 you know,

00:58:06.580 these days

00:58:06.960 but

00:58:07.140 Oh,

00:58:07.600 yeah.

00:58:08.460 But it'd not be my name

00:58:09.280 not my voice

00:58:09.880 not be any kind of style

00:58:11.000 of music that I

00:58:11.760 that I normally do

00:58:12.840 you know,

00:58:13.360 just to

00:58:13.760 see what happens to it

00:58:15.400 Yeah.

00:58:15.660 It might be like

00:58:16.220 house music or something

00:58:17.280 you know,

00:58:17.680 I don't know.

00:58:18.140 That'd be pretty sick,

00:58:18.840 dude.

00:58:19.820 Yeah,

00:58:20.240 dude,

00:58:20.400 if you had house music

00:58:21.620 I mean,

00:58:22.740 people would

00:58:23.320 if they saw my name on it

00:58:25.140 they would

00:58:25.400 I don't want it to have my name on it

00:58:26.480 I wanted to just see what happens

00:58:27.660 if it just gets put out

00:58:29.000 into the world

00:58:29.420 you know,

00:58:30.060 maybe I'll like put it on a story

00:58:31.420 or something

00:58:31.800 of whoever it is

00:58:32.760 you know,

00:58:33.100 Dream Jacker

00:58:33.840 or whatever the team is

00:58:35.180 but

00:58:35.400 whatever the name of the guy is

00:58:38.420 Yeah,

00:58:38.740 dude.

00:58:39.660 Wet Dream Jacker

00:58:40.840 that'd be mine

00:58:41.760 Dream Jacking

00:58:44.020 currently

00:58:44.880 I mean

00:58:47.520 we were talking

00:58:49.720 me and my buddies

00:58:50.280 were talking about

00:58:50.960 this topic the other day

00:58:52.340 actually

00:58:52.700 and

00:58:52.980 I don't know

00:58:54.440 it might actually happen

00:58:55.060 Putting out something secret

00:58:55.760 low key

00:58:56.140 Yeah

00:58:56.480 Creating something

00:58:57.140 Yeah,

00:58:57.560 well I bet

00:58:57.900 because that's an interesting thing

00:58:59.260 it's like once you kind of

00:59:00.160 have made a name in one space

00:59:01.500 it's kind of hard

00:59:02.240 you can't

00:59:03.440 you know

00:59:03.940 you almost have

00:59:04.560 if you want to get a real test

00:59:06.180 of what people think of something

00:59:07.600 you kind of have to secretly

00:59:08.640 do it some other way

00:59:09.640 Yeah,

00:59:11.100 but it wouldn't even be similar

00:59:12.560 to the type of music

00:59:13.640 that I don't totally understand that

00:59:14.980 It would be nothing even close

00:59:16.480 to what I'm doing now

00:59:17.400 It would be like

00:59:18.880 I mean

00:59:20.380 I like

00:59:21.200 I like house music a little bit

00:59:22.600 Yeah

00:59:22.820 So I'll listen to it

00:59:23.440 working out or driving or stuff

00:59:24.540 you know,

00:59:24.780 like melodic stuff

00:59:25.700 I like melodic stuff

00:59:26.600 Like that kind of stuff

00:59:27.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:59:27.620 But I feel like a lot of that stuff

00:59:29.480 doesn't necessarily

00:59:30.540 have

00:59:32.360 a lot of words and stuff

00:59:34.280 you know

00:59:34.520 so maybe

00:59:34.900 what if I took a song of mine

00:59:36.180 that didn't make my album

00:59:37.240 but it's got a story

00:59:38.220 it's got all these things

00:59:39.320 you know

00:59:39.560 what if

00:59:39.940 what would people

00:59:40.460 would people like that

00:59:41.240 I don't know

00:59:42.300 Dude, I thought

00:59:43.400 I started thinking of this

00:59:44.720 about two years ago

00:59:45.440 so they have like

00:59:46.520 ED

00:59:46.800 you go to these nightclubs

00:59:47.880 and stuff

00:59:48.280 and they'll have like

00:59:49.040 John Summit

00:59:49.980 these different kind of guys

00:59:50.960 who are playing like

00:59:51.820 house like trance

00:59:54.060 or whatever

00:59:54.540 whatever it is

00:59:55.220 it's just people

00:59:55.780 doing dope

00:59:56.540 really late at night

00:59:57.360 and just doing like this

00:59:58.320 you know

00:59:58.700 whatever that is

00:59:59.320 I don't know the difference

01:00:00.160 between all those styles of music

01:00:01.640 it's like

01:00:02.080 it's one style of music

01:00:03.940 I know there's sub-genres

01:00:05.060 and all that

01:00:05.520 but yeah

01:00:05.980 Same

01:00:06.460 I don't have a clue

01:00:07.280 but I'm always like

01:00:08.420 why don't they have

01:00:09.340 like a more like country

01:00:11.240 or like

01:00:11.700 why is it always

01:00:12.900 like if they had remixes

01:00:14.360 of a lot of great country music

01:00:16.000 like

01:00:16.380 and you put it to that

01:00:18.380 same type of shit

01:00:19.200 because a lot of

01:00:20.320 people want to still go

01:00:21.300 have that environment

01:00:22.000 but I don't

01:00:22.500 sometimes you get tired

01:00:23.540 of that music

01:00:24.040 it just gets kind of old

01:00:25.040 so if they had remixes

01:00:26.140 of some dope country shit

01:00:27.220 I'm like

01:00:27.920 if they had two country DJs

01:00:29.260 that came out

01:00:29.700 I feel like it would be so sick

01:00:31.380 just doing remixes and shit

01:00:32.580 It would be cool

01:00:33.220 I'm surprised they don't have that already

01:00:34.740 Me too

01:00:35.240 Me and Kayla Presley

01:00:35.980 thought about trying to do it

01:00:37.500 but then it was just like

01:00:38.440 you just don't have a lot of time

01:00:39.480 you know

01:00:40.000 and that becomes something too

01:00:41.300 it's like there's things you want to do

01:00:42.260 and you just don't have enough time

01:00:43.280 you know

01:00:43.640 Yeah

01:00:43.960 and that's smart for you to realize that

01:00:46.220 I mean it would be like

01:00:46.960 well I'm going to quit my job

01:00:48.720 it pays all my bills

01:00:50.180 and you know

01:00:51.060 go be a mason

01:00:52.680 it's like well

01:00:54.440 maybe don't do that

01:00:55.640 so yeah

01:00:57.160 Under

01:00:58.880 just fucking remixing

01:01:03.060 fucking Brooks and Dunn

01:01:03.920 before you go man

01:01:06.540 you have some

01:01:08.420 you have some amazing

01:01:09.380 artists that are going to be

01:01:10.280 on some of these tour dates with you

01:01:11.460 Yeah I do

01:01:12.220 Did you have to call them individually

01:01:13.740 and ask them

01:01:14.420 how'd that kind of go

01:01:15.260 because some of these are

01:01:16.240 idols really

01:01:17.540 in the industry

01:01:18.460 Well

01:01:18.940 I feel

01:01:20.000 you know

01:01:20.880 Miranda

01:01:22.360 I'm good friends with Miranda

01:01:23.600 I'm good

01:01:24.040 good friends with Brooks and Dunn

01:01:26.060 So that was pretty easy

01:01:29.500 Yeah I mean

01:01:30.240 there was already mutual interest

01:01:32.260 and that's something

01:01:32.800 that's kind of been a conversation

01:01:33.840 for a little bit longer

01:01:34.840 than just you know

01:01:35.640 this year

01:01:36.080 so that one kind of just

01:01:37.540 worked itself out

01:01:38.460 between them

01:01:39.280 and my managers

01:01:40.680 I'm good friends

01:01:41.840 with Thomas Red as well

01:01:42.820 so that one

01:01:43.260 they were all

01:01:43.840 He's nice huh

01:01:44.780 He's super nice

01:01:45.460 He lives nearby I think

01:01:47.460 Yeah I think you're right

01:01:48.680 It just all kind of

01:01:50.480 happened pretty naturally

01:01:51.240 but I mean

01:01:51.720 it's unbelievable to me

01:01:54.200 you know

01:01:54.500 like I haven't really

01:01:55.180 this page that's pulled up

01:01:57.380 I mean

01:01:57.660 just to see the people

01:01:59.100 that are

01:01:59.480 that are opening for me

01:02:02.100 it's like it doesn't even

01:02:02.940 make sense you know

01:02:03.700 Miranda Ella Langley

01:02:04.720 she's a new

01:02:05.540 Yeah she's a badass

01:02:06.620 or she's newly more popular

01:02:08.300 Yeah

01:02:08.820 I'm not going to say she's new

01:02:09.660 I don't know about her history

01:02:10.680 I don't either but

01:02:11.740 Miranda Corey Kent

01:02:12.800 I'm not familiar with them

01:02:13.780 if it's a man

01:02:14.960 It is

01:02:15.620 Yeah

01:02:16.020 He's good too

01:02:17.340 I'm going to have to

01:02:17.940 check him out

01:02:18.980 Yeah Ann Wilson

01:02:21.160 she's

01:02:21.840 she's a

01:02:22.860 Christian artist

01:02:24.200 by trait

01:02:25.360 but she's

01:02:26.140 you know

01:02:26.520 dabbling in the

01:02:27.120 country music world

01:02:27.880 she's

01:02:28.300 she's really good

01:02:29.560 you know

01:02:31.800 she's on her

01:02:32.400 she's on her agency so

01:02:33.600 She is?

01:02:34.400 Yep

01:02:34.600 Yep

01:02:35.020 You started

01:02:36.420 I'll have to check her out

01:02:37.640 Oh Gavin Adcock's out there

01:02:39.520 with you too

01:02:39.920 He's a wild man

01:02:40.300 That fucking guy

01:02:40.940 is a wild dude

01:02:42.340 I love that guy man

01:02:43.420 Oh dude yeah

01:02:44.420 He's walking like

01:02:46.200 I see he'll eat a fucking

01:02:47.480 he'll eat a damn three pack

01:02:48.860 I saw him eat a three pack of beers

01:02:50.280 He probably did

01:02:51.820 Oh he'll eat fucking two beers dude

01:02:53.960 Yeah he doesn't give a damn dude

01:02:56.680 He played offensive line for Bud Light

01:02:59.240 for a couple years I think

01:03:00.440 There is nobody like him dude

01:03:03.580 He's fucking

01:03:04.060 He's definitely outlandish

01:03:06.080 Oh he'll be on the same

01:03:06.860 What are those things

01:03:08.040 Those military

01:03:08.880 What are those

01:03:09.520 MREs or whatever

01:03:10.660 He's just got beer in there

01:03:11.860 Dude he'll walk in

01:03:15.840 But he

01:03:17.080 He's uh

01:03:18.120 He's entertaining

01:03:18.820 He's entertaining

01:03:19.820 He's got

01:03:20.300 He's got a good voice too

01:03:21.400 And his

01:03:21.720 His music

01:03:22.340 Seems like he just

01:03:23.760 keeps getting better too

01:03:24.700 So

01:03:24.960 I'm

01:03:25.480 I'm happy for him man

01:03:26.640 I gotta tap him more

01:03:27.740 Than my song

01:03:28.260 Play with

01:03:28.700 Kid Rock

01:03:29.460 And them

01:03:29.760 On his

01:03:30.140 One of his shows

01:03:30.840 Last year

01:03:31.360 Dude I'll say this

01:03:32.580 Bob Ritchie

01:03:33.360 His live performance dude

01:03:35.860 No he'll

01:03:36.400 He'll let him have it won't he

01:03:38.320 Bro I was fucking

01:03:39.840 I mean I know

01:03:41.300 You know

01:03:41.660 But I didn't

01:03:42.440 It was good

01:03:43.940 I've never seen it

01:03:44.880 Person like first hand

01:03:46.080 But it was really

01:03:46.780 I can imagine

01:03:47.480 I mean I knew it would be

01:03:48.160 But it's just been some time

01:03:49.220 You know

01:03:49.560 It's hard to keep up

01:03:50.600 You know

01:03:50.920 I mean being out there

01:03:51.920 For two hours

01:03:52.640 I mean you guys get

01:03:53.460 I mean it

01:03:54.060 That's a lot man

01:03:55.860 It is man

01:03:57.520 It can be for sure

01:03:58.520 I mean

01:03:58.900 Depends on how often

01:04:00.620 You do it too

01:04:01.340 You know

01:04:01.660 I mean if you're doing it

01:04:02.740 Some people I guess

01:04:05.120 Still do it three

01:04:05.880 Three nights a week

01:04:06.780 I'm just

01:04:07.280 I'm just gonna do it too

01:04:08.240 Because it feels like

01:04:09.240 A disservice to

01:04:10.560 To me and everyone else

01:04:11.860 To do it three days in a row

01:04:12.980 You know

01:04:13.220 But two

01:04:13.580 Two seems like a good

01:04:14.760 Sweet spot

01:04:15.560 You can

01:04:17.000 As long

01:04:17.380 You know

01:04:17.620 You play the show

01:04:18.760 Probably don't go to bed

01:04:20.960 Till three four in the morning

01:04:21.960 Just cause you're so wound up

01:04:23.680 Yeah you're up

01:04:24.300 People visit

01:04:24.940 And you gotta say bye

01:04:25.740 To everybody

01:04:26.080 All that shit

01:04:26.580 Well I don't do all that

01:04:27.680 Anymore much

01:04:28.740 But even if your family's

01:04:29.620 Yeah but

01:04:30.180 Even still

01:04:31.080 They know what the priorities are

01:04:32.460 At this point

01:04:32.880 So if I play a show

01:04:34.180 You'll head out

01:04:34.720 Which my boy

01:04:35.200 If my boy's with me

01:04:36.160 He'll be asleep already anyway

01:04:37.400 So I'll just

01:04:39.000 We head straight out

01:04:40.260 Don't stick around

01:04:41.800 I try to go to bed

01:04:42.960 As soon as possible

01:04:43.640 Usually like I said

01:04:44.600 Don't have until three or four

01:04:45.480 Then you try your best

01:04:47.540 To sleep

01:04:48.040 Till noon

01:04:49.140 One

01:04:49.620 Two

01:04:49.940 As late as you possibly can

01:04:51.220 Just cause your voice

01:04:52.020 After doing all that

01:04:52.840 You know

01:04:53.620 You need all that rest

01:04:54.680 So

01:04:55.520 It's become a little bit more

01:04:57.760 Like a regiment for me

01:04:59.000 Which is good

01:05:00.040 You know I got a vocal coach

01:05:01.820 And all that stuff too now

01:05:02.780 So it's just like

01:05:03.560 It's like a whole

01:05:04.400 Boom boom boom boom boom

01:05:05.980 This is how it is now

01:05:07.240 You know

01:05:07.520 And that seems to help me a lot

01:05:08.940 Yeah

01:05:09.400 Yeah it's kind of interesting

01:05:11.260 When I was a little younger

01:05:12.060 I could do those

01:05:12.760 I could do you know

01:05:13.740 Some of those stretches

01:05:14.480 And now I'm like

01:05:15.160 I don't

01:05:15.460 I wish I

01:05:16.000 When I do see them on the schedule

01:05:17.720 It's a little bit tougher

01:05:18.540 Not comparing comedy

01:05:20.000 And what you know

01:05:21.080 No but you're

01:05:21.820 I mean it is

01:05:22.760 I mean it's a similar thing

01:05:23.700 It's still the same thing

01:05:23.820 It's like a regiment

01:05:24.400 It's like yeah

01:05:24.760 I gotta sleep in late

01:05:25.600 And it's like

01:05:25.880 Well that kind of sucks

01:05:26.580 Cause now it's like

01:05:27.240 It's kind of hard

01:05:28.040 If you wake up at 10

01:05:28.900 To go back to sleep

01:05:29.580 For two more hours

01:05:30.280 Cause it's light out

01:05:31.100 It's really hard

01:05:31.980 It's hard

01:05:32.500 But you know you need

01:05:33.320 That two more hours of sleep

01:05:34.160 Otherwise I'm gonna be edgy

01:05:35.360 You know

01:05:36.160 And I won't be able to

01:05:36.860 I might not want to go work out

01:05:38.040 Just all the little things

01:05:39.140 Like

01:05:39.480 Yeah it is

01:05:40.880 It's important

01:05:41.560 Cause it's just about

01:05:42.240 Getting yourself back on the stage

01:05:43.660 For that next

01:05:44.460 That when it's time to go

01:05:46.380 It's time to go

01:05:46.860 Yeah I mean back in the day

01:05:47.840 I mean which we weren't

01:05:48.620 Playing two hour shows

01:05:49.540 Back then either you know

01:05:50.340 But we would play six

01:05:51.420 Six shows in one week

01:05:52.720 You know

01:05:53.100 So I don't know how

01:05:55.380 I mean it just had to be young

01:05:57.120 I guess you know

01:05:57.780 I mean it wasn't like

01:05:58.560 We were

01:05:58.860 I wasn't

01:05:59.740 The only regiment then

01:06:00.960 Was sleep till four

01:06:02.600 Start drinking at five

01:06:03.860 You know what I mean

01:06:04.620 Like that's what it was then

01:06:05.940 And we gonna be good

01:06:07.500 Ain't that right

01:06:08.680 Bro hell yeah

01:06:10.680 That's the Gavin Adcock

01:06:11.660 National anthem

01:06:12.440 Yeah I think

01:06:12.960 I think back in the day

01:06:14.320 If I had a camera on me

01:06:17.300 Like Adcock does now

01:06:19.360 They might be

01:06:20.800 They would be probably

01:06:21.760 Saying some similar stuff

01:06:23.080 About me

01:06:23.700 But he's a little more

01:06:25.400 He's a little more bold

01:06:26.460 With it I guess

01:06:27.160 Than I was

01:06:27.780 Well he's really

01:06:28.480 Yeah

01:06:28.800 He's

01:06:29.460 Oh dude

01:06:30.000 He's fucking

01:06:30.480 He'll be on stage

01:06:31.360 People

01:06:31.780 I think there's some

01:06:32.940 He's like

01:06:33.320 People are throwing

01:06:34.080 Fucking beers

01:06:34.920 He just has beers

01:06:35.720 Bouncing off of them

01:06:36.880 He's an animal dude

01:06:38.940 He'll be like

01:06:39.800 The PA system

01:06:40.780 Shut down

01:06:41.580 But we gonna still

01:06:42.420 Fucking perform

01:06:43.160 He'll just yell

01:06:44.080 He'll hollow out a beer can

01:06:45.920 And just yell out of it

01:06:46.980 And shit

01:06:47.300 He's fucking doing

01:06:48.060 All kind of shit

01:06:48.940 He is ballsy dude

01:06:51.920 His personality's cool

01:06:54.000 He's a fun guy

01:06:55.100 Very entertaining

01:06:55.980 I gotta tap into

01:06:56.680 More of his music

01:06:57.140 I haven't listened

01:06:57.720 To a lot of his music

01:06:58.220 Yeah you need to

01:06:58.600 Get him on here

01:06:59.260 Yeah

01:06:59.720 I do need to

01:07:00.980 People say that

01:07:01.500 We look alike a little bit

01:07:02.700 But I think

01:07:03.960 They're just being nice to me

01:07:05.360 To you

01:07:07.060 To you or him

01:07:08.000 One of us

01:07:10.740 One of us dude

01:07:12.720 Oh yeah

01:07:15.000 You got your drink here

01:07:15.800 Man you brought this today

01:07:16.680 That real tea

01:07:17.600 How's it going

01:07:18.080 Real tea

01:07:18.540 Man it seems to be

01:07:19.880 Seems to be progressing nicely

01:07:21.700 It's good

01:07:22.140 I like it

01:07:22.620 I like it on ice better

01:07:24.300 Yeah brother

01:07:26.000 But I've always liked

01:07:26.700 Sweet tea better on ice

01:07:27.680 I mean

01:07:28.940 You know

01:07:29.500 Cause I've been

01:07:30.040 I'm trying to

01:07:31.380 Eat and live

01:07:32.160 And drink

01:07:32.600 And all that stuff

01:07:33.180 Clean

01:07:33.480 So for something

01:07:34.480 That's actually

01:07:35.260 You know

01:07:36.120 Healthy

01:07:36.720 It's good

01:07:37.580 Yeah

01:07:37.960 It's good for sure

01:07:39.220 I like it

01:07:39.880 I like having a nice

01:07:40.680 Little can of tea

01:07:42.220 Or something

01:07:42.540 I'll keep a couple

01:07:43.140 In the car

01:07:43.580 I'll drink them warm even

01:07:44.580 Do you

01:07:45.260 Yeah

01:07:45.700 I'll get a whole one

01:07:46.480 In me at a stoplight

01:07:47.320 Yeah I don't do all that

01:07:48.640 You don't?

01:07:49.240 No

01:07:49.420 My drummer told me

01:07:51.640 One time he'd drink

01:07:52.560 Like I can't remember

01:07:53.520 How many

01:07:53.940 You know

01:07:54.440 Like 13 or something

01:07:55.680 Ungodly in a short amount

01:07:57.100 Of time

01:07:57.460 I said

01:07:57.760 Damn man

01:07:58.840 You're gonna have

01:07:59.440 Kidney stones for sure

01:08:00.540 Hey dude

01:08:03.520 That's

01:08:03.780 Well maybe he'll have

01:08:04.720 A band

01:08:05.080 A cover band

01:08:06.060 Of the Rolling Stones

01:08:07.360 And it's called

01:08:07.720 Kidney stones

01:08:08.460 It's the Rolling Kidney stones

01:08:09.880 Yeah

01:08:10.180 Is there a song

01:08:13.240 Sometimes of your own

01:08:14.060 That you'll listen to

01:08:14.840 Or one that catches you

01:08:15.680 Sometimes

01:08:16.040 And it'll kind of

01:08:16.580 Catch you in your feels

01:08:17.440 A little bit

01:08:17.900 Is there any one

01:08:18.320 That you're like

01:08:18.780 I mean yeah

01:08:20.240 The song

01:08:20.620 The song I wrote

01:08:21.180 To my son

01:08:21.720 Is the song

01:08:22.700 Oh the one

01:08:23.160 That's not out yet

01:08:23.800 Yeah that does that

01:08:24.660 It'll be out soon

01:08:25.400 But

01:08:25.620 Okay

01:08:25.860 I mean

01:08:27.100 It's also

01:08:28.700 One of those things

01:08:29.480 To where

01:08:29.960 You know

01:08:30.740 I've tried so many times

01:08:31.900 To write a song

01:08:32.480 Like that for him

01:08:33.260 And it always fell flat

01:08:34.600 So I'd listen to it

01:08:36.360 On the way home

01:08:36.960 Or whatever

01:08:37.320 After we wrote it

01:08:38.100 And I'd be like

01:08:38.760 That's

01:08:39.560 That's good

01:08:40.540 You know

01:08:41.480 But it's not

01:08:42.020 It's not how I want it

01:08:43.800 And I also didn't want to write

01:08:44.880 Like

01:08:45.200 A song to him

01:08:46.840 That was

01:08:47.420 All

01:08:49.520 I don't know

01:08:51.140 Sappy

01:08:52.600 And

01:08:53.140 Slow

01:08:54.520 And

01:08:55.100 You know

01:08:55.960 Just like

01:08:56.320 What you would expect

01:08:57.120 A dad's son song to be

01:08:58.820 You know

01:08:59.200 I wish you wouldn't grow up

01:09:01.340 You know

01:09:01.640 All that

01:09:02.100 Like

01:09:03.580 I didn't want it to be that

01:09:04.960 I wanted

01:09:05.820 Another birthday cake

01:09:06.860 Yeah

01:09:07.360 It's like

01:09:07.820 I didn't want that song at all

01:09:09.740 That song's been written

01:09:10.660 Plenty enough

01:09:11.800 So

01:09:12.580 And I wanted it to keep like

01:09:14.640 Have a little bit of my

01:09:16.020 My sound

01:09:17.100 And my swag

01:09:17.720 And just like

01:09:18.480 And to be honest

01:09:19.520 You know

01:09:20.400 So it was a hard thing

01:09:21.400 To try to get

01:09:22.180 All those things

01:09:23.500 Wrapped up into one song

01:09:24.700 And it's called

01:09:25.900 Superman's

01:09:26.460 What it's called

01:09:26.860 And I feel like

01:09:27.360 We accomplished that

01:09:28.640 And when I was

01:09:29.080 When we wrote it

01:09:30.140 And I was riding home

01:09:31.340 It was actually the last song

01:09:32.500 That made my record

01:09:33.140 So it's not like

01:09:33.860 I've had it for a long time

01:09:35.320 You know

01:09:35.540 It took us a while

01:09:36.400 To get that song

01:09:38.620 And

01:09:39.060 It was actually

01:09:41.940 Blake

01:09:42.280 One of my buddy Blake's

01:09:43.180 It was his idea

01:09:44.020 And

01:09:45.240 The hook was different though

01:09:46.700 It said Superman

01:09:47.620 I don't remember

01:09:49.780 What the hook was

01:09:50.520 Exactly

01:09:50.880 But I was just singing

01:09:51.760 And I was like

01:09:52.400 Oh

01:09:52.920 I know

01:09:53.980 I know what it is

01:09:54.940 And I changed

01:09:55.440 I changed the hook

01:09:56.320 And it like

01:09:56.800 It made it

01:09:57.840 It was like

01:09:58.180 Oh there it is

01:09:58.940 Unlocked

01:09:59.440 And we all

01:10:00.020 All three of us

01:10:00.600 Or four of us in the room

01:10:01.440 Just kind of was like

01:10:02.120 Oh yeah

01:10:02.720 That's it

01:10:03.260 You know

01:10:04.000 And then on the way home

01:10:04.820 I was listening to it

01:10:05.680 And started crying

01:10:06.460 And

01:10:07.460 That's the first time

01:10:08.780 That it happened

01:10:09.800 With a song

01:10:10.680 For him

01:10:11.380 So that's

01:10:12.460 I kind of knew

01:10:13.120 Yeah

01:10:13.840 That's cool man

01:10:15.480 Yeah man

01:10:16.660 There's one thing

01:10:17.380 I've always thought

01:10:18.480 You had very good instincts

01:10:20.160 Man

01:10:20.420 I've always admired

01:10:20.960 Your instincts

01:10:21.560 You know

01:10:21.880 Whether it's humor

01:10:22.840 We're joking around

01:10:23.540 Whatever

01:10:23.740 You're fucking sharp dude

01:10:25.440 You're a sharp fucking guy

01:10:26.760 And

01:10:26.980 Yeah it's been

01:10:28.460 I appreciate you

01:10:29.260 Just supporting my podcast

01:10:30.300 And

01:10:30.720 You know

01:10:31.760 It's nice of you

01:10:32.520 And thanks for all the

01:10:33.460 Great music man

01:10:34.200 That one about the mom

01:10:35.500 Oh

01:10:36.240 I wrote the book

01:10:37.580 Oh yeah

01:10:38.160 And that one sometimes

01:10:39.620 That's one of my favorites still

01:10:40.980 If I'm driving home at night

01:10:42.260 Or something

01:10:42.580 I'll listen to that one dude

01:10:43.700 You know

01:10:44.220 That's a good one

01:10:44.940 That one's like

01:10:45.440 Kind of puts me in a good spot

01:10:46.640 You know

01:10:47.020 Yeah

01:10:47.440 I like that one too man

01:10:48.640 Yeah

01:10:50.900 And what's the one about the mom

01:10:52.220 You talking about my mom

01:10:53.960 Yeah

01:10:54.480 Thought you should know

01:10:55.140 Yeah that one

01:10:56.020 Yeah

01:10:56.540 God that one

01:10:57.640 God damn

01:10:58.360 Dude I pull over and cry sometimes

01:10:59.960 Do you really

01:11:00.500 I'm like

01:11:01.380 Fuck you can't cry

01:11:02.220 And drive you little bitch

01:11:03.300 This goes back to what you're talking about

01:11:05.320 Thinking and motion

01:11:06.720 And all that stuff

01:11:07.380 Yeah

01:11:07.720 It is dude

01:11:09.240 I guess it's too much

01:11:10.580 Morgan Wallen man

01:11:15.180 One of the most prolific artists

01:11:16.560 Of I think

01:11:17.380 Ever on the face of the earth man

01:11:19.280 It's a pleasure dude

01:11:20.280 I feel lucky to get to know

01:11:21.800 Your cousin

01:11:22.480 He and I are close

01:11:23.440 And yeah

01:11:24.680 Just thanks for all the entertainment

01:11:26.140 On behalf of everybody

01:11:27.720 And it's just been

01:11:28.680 It's been a gift man

01:11:30.380 Thank you man

01:11:31.020 I say the same to you

01:11:32.140 I appreciate everything

01:11:32.940 That you do for me

01:11:33.820 Cheers brother

01:11:34.340 Excited for the new album

01:11:35.140 Yes sir

01:11:35.600 Now I'm just floating on the breeze

01:11:38.520 And I feel I'm falling like these leaves

01:11:41.460 I must be cornerstone

01:11:44.800 Oh but when I reach that ground

01:11:49.360 I'll share this peace of mind

01:11:51.520 I found I can feel it

01:11:53.560 In my bones

01:11:55.680 But it's gonna take

01:11:58.220 Amen.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - April 02, 2025

#573 - Morgan Wallen

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