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00:00:53.320 Today's guest is a political commentator, an investigative reporter, and a podcaster.

00:00:58.180 She's known for her conservative viewpoints, her many viral debates, and her own show, Candace,

00:01:06.540 which you can find releasing every week.

00:01:09.480 I'm grateful for her time.

00:01:11.360 And today's guest is Candace Owens.

00:01:14.100 Shine on me, and I will find a song I've been singing.

00:01:23.240 Come on.

00:01:31.560 Anyway, is this mic on her okay?

00:01:34.140 Are we good?

00:01:34.680 Do I sound good?

00:01:35.760 Everyone sounds good.

00:01:36.920 I look great.

00:01:37.380 I look perfect.

00:01:38.200 Oh, dang.

00:01:39.040 Well, I'm not going to tell you that.

00:01:40.640 You're obviously a taken woman.

00:01:43.520 Yeah, are you hot or cold, do you feel like?

00:01:45.220 No.

00:01:45.880 I only run one way because I'm black.

00:01:48.220 So, um, do, do, I was going to ask because you're pregnant, because you're pregnant,

00:01:53.280 are you hot or cold?

00:01:54.320 But yeah, that's all.

00:01:55.460 This is like a repeat conversation.

00:01:56.960 Like, first off, there's the, the women, we always run cold.

00:02:00.780 Oh, yes.

00:02:01.440 I've heard that.

00:02:02.300 My friend Neil Brennan is a comedian.

00:02:03.740 He has a bunch of jokes about it.

00:02:04.820 Yeah.

00:02:05.020 And then, and so I'm a woman and I'm black, so I naturally like the heat.

00:02:08.240 Oh, so black women prefer to be warmer?

00:02:10.480 Yeah, of course.

00:02:11.000 No, well, we like, we like the heat.

00:02:12.160 Like our natural habitat is warm.

00:02:13.960 Oh, that's a good point, huh?

00:02:14.640 Yeah, my family's Caribbean.

00:02:15.560 So like the warmth feels great.

00:02:16.900 So like, when I'm boiling hot, like the team, like my team of guys, they're always

00:02:20.840 like, they always want the air on.

00:02:22.120 So it's like freezing cold in here.

00:02:23.560 And I have to tell them like, you know, some of you are Nordic.

00:02:25.960 It doesn't work.

00:02:26.700 Like, you know, like I have a redhead on my team and I'm like, Skylar, like, you know,

00:02:30.800 you're from the Nordic countries.

00:02:31.880 That's why you feel this way.

00:02:33.040 I think that like where you're from dictates a lot of your life or where your family would

00:02:37.140 originally be from.

00:02:38.100 Yeah, I didn't, sometimes I don't think about that.

00:02:39.500 It would be great if your AC or whatever had like a Caribbean setting or whatever.

00:02:43.260 And you could have set that and suddenly like some great music came out.

00:02:48.300 It'd be perfect.

00:02:49.600 And then some guy's trying to get you to gamble offshore.

00:02:53.280 Suddenly you're like, what temperature is this?

00:02:55.260 That would be so crazy.

00:02:57.200 They should have.

00:02:58.200 Yeah.

00:02:58.400 Where are all the cool settings for the HVAC?

00:03:02.020 I absolutely love the heat.

00:03:04.120 So I cannot stand the winter.

00:03:06.480 I can't stand the cold weather, the gray weather.

00:03:08.300 Even there's a difference if in this, I think actually gets scientific.

00:03:11.400 I didn't need the science of it, but it does get scientific.

00:03:13.660 But if you're from those countries, like if I'm in the UK, because my husband's English,

00:03:17.620 just the gray weather.

00:03:18.900 I can't live like this.

00:03:20.720 Yeah.

00:03:20.920 It's a bunch of Eeyores over there.

00:03:22.620 Where is the sun?

00:03:23.160 I need this.

00:03:23.760 And my husband just fine.

00:03:25.560 He can be like productive, like super productive.

00:03:27.480 If it's like 12 days of gray and rain, he almost loves it.

00:03:31.940 He just wants to retreat to his library.

00:03:33.640 Oh, yeah.

00:03:34.220 I think all British people are always just writing war letters and stuff.

00:03:37.240 That's how I kind of always envision them.

00:03:38.920 They're always just looking out the window and writing about the war to each other.

00:03:42.360 That's what my husband does all day.

00:03:43.480 Of course.

00:03:44.020 Yeah.

00:03:44.540 And then even Paddington Bear.

00:03:45.840 Their bear has a coat.

00:03:47.100 He's not even like our bears are naked.

00:03:49.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:50.180 Like, I'm not saying that that's the way to do it.

00:03:52.160 But yeah, if you bring up an American teddy bear real quick, let me see this topless.

00:03:57.480 You're a bastard.

00:03:59.240 Paddington Bear is proper.

00:04:01.220 Yeah.

00:04:01.460 Now, some of these are obviously some pretty right wing bears.

00:04:03.980 Put up a bring up a politically neutral teddy bear.

00:04:07.340 But they are.

00:04:07.880 They're always like not well dressed.

00:04:09.460 We're not we don't we don't really wear a lot of clothes in America in general.

00:04:12.820 And especially as you come down to the south, it just gets because then there's England

00:04:16.720 and there's New England.

00:04:18.040 So I'm from Connecticut.

00:04:18.660 So there's a lot of similarity.

00:04:19.720 And then the more that you drift south, you're kind of in a different country.

00:04:23.240 Oh, that's it.

00:04:23.740 You know, that's a good point.

00:04:24.480 I never even think about that.

00:04:25.640 Oh, yeah.

00:04:26.260 Because you would if you see some people cooking some of the stuff I've seen them cook, you

00:04:29.800 would call the police in some communities, you know, but in other communities, you're

00:04:33.500 just sharpening your silverware.

00:04:35.220 So, yeah, I agree that that's interesting.

00:04:37.520 But yeah, they should have definitely some better settings on the AC.

00:04:41.400 If they had Caribbean, like you turn that bit, set that bit to plantains or whatever.

00:04:45.000 Yeah.

00:04:45.400 Like I would love that.

00:04:46.480 I would absolutely love it.

00:04:48.240 You are pregnant now.

00:04:49.980 I've been pregnant for four years, actually.

00:04:52.140 So I think now people are kind of saying to me still or again when they see me, are you

00:04:57.200 still pregnant or are you pregnant again?

00:04:59.140 So I'm not sure which one, but this is my fourth kid.

00:05:01.760 So and I've had a child every year.

00:05:04.400 It's kind of crazy.

00:05:05.340 This is like a lifestyle now for me.

00:05:07.280 Pregnancy is a lifestyle.

00:05:08.480 Yeah.

00:05:09.220 Do you are there good dreams when you're pregnant?

00:05:11.660 Like that's one thing because you're kind of dreaming for two.

00:05:13.900 I feel like it is.

00:05:14.480 It almost like being at the sphere or whatever.

00:05:16.020 That's what I would wonder.

00:05:16.740 You get some really weird dreams when you're pregnant and also some very precise dreams

00:05:22.760 that end up coming true.

00:05:25.060 Totally weird.

00:05:26.080 I mean, I woke up and had such a crystal clear dream.

00:05:29.120 My last pregnancy, my EP was trying to get pregnant.

00:05:33.060 An EP means executive producer?

00:05:34.460 Yeah.

00:05:34.660 Okay.

00:05:34.900 My former executive producer.

00:05:36.720 And I had a crystal, like her son visited me.

00:05:39.360 And it was before she knew she was pregnant.

00:05:41.700 And I said to her, you're having a little boy.

00:05:44.800 Like you're pregnant.

00:05:45.640 And she was like, I'm not pregnant.

00:05:47.000 And then she went back.

00:05:47.680 Or somebody shot an episode of The Ring in your womb, maybe.

00:05:50.420 Yeah.

00:05:50.820 Just one or the other.

00:05:51.720 That sounds wild.

00:05:52.460 And then they got pregnant.

00:05:53.560 She found out she was pregnant.

00:05:54.440 And then she went back because I texted her.

00:05:56.080 And it was like the day of conception.

00:05:58.420 And my sisters did the same exact thing to me when they were pregnant.

00:06:01.560 So there's some weird pregnancy dreams that happen.

00:06:04.520 I go with them.

00:06:05.140 If I remember a vivid pregnancy dream, I'm like, that's happening.

00:06:07.640 Yeah.

00:06:08.080 Yeah.

00:06:08.520 Ooh, that's cool.

00:06:09.460 Yeah.

00:06:09.880 Because you would think that the spirit would be able to come visit you before it showed up,

00:06:13.520 right?

00:06:13.680 Because this is just kind of the physical inclination of a spirit, right?

00:06:17.720 Being alive on earth.

00:06:19.220 And so it would make sense that the spirit got to come and kind of loiter a little bit

00:06:23.260 or visit friends or visit like friends of whoever it was going to occupy, you know?

00:06:28.080 If I think about dreams too hard, it freaks me out.

00:06:31.560 Like deja vu, it just scares me.

00:06:35.120 Genuinely, I'm going, what's real, what's not?

00:06:37.580 Is this inception?

00:06:38.620 Yes.

00:06:38.860 Because you are so certain in a moment of deja vu that you've been there, you've seen

00:06:43.280 that person, you've met that person.

00:06:45.340 And yet you haven't in your waking world.

00:06:48.460 Yeah.

00:06:48.640 So us not having like just humans, not having an answer to deja vu is one of those lingering

00:06:55.240 things that in the back of my mind, if I think too much about it, I'm, I just get freaked

00:06:58.540 out.

00:06:59.240 Yeah.

00:06:59.600 I had a guest on recently, this guy, Ari Shafir, and we had the strongest mode of deja vu

00:07:03.800 I'd ever had.

00:07:04.340 And I almost was grabbed him and I was like, you, you've been here.

00:07:07.440 Yeah.

00:07:07.940 And were you like, you had maybe sometimes like an, like an enemy or a friend or you

00:07:11.000 just know someone.

00:07:12.080 Well, it was like, I knew you.

00:07:12.960 I was like, we've done this before.

00:07:14.020 And I almost felt like he knew it.

00:07:15.400 And he was like, like this bastard is this dude.

00:07:19.060 I was like, tell me why you came before.

00:07:22.380 I know you from another life.

00:07:23.920 Yeah.

00:07:24.260 What was our beef?

00:07:25.260 Like, dude, yeah.

00:07:25.980 What heck?

00:07:26.600 Tell me what you're fucking doing here.

00:07:28.040 Tell me who you're working for.

00:07:29.160 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 Did you, you, so you have three children that are out of your body right now.

00:07:34.780 Is that what you're saying?

00:07:35.180 Out of my body.

00:07:35.880 Yeah.

00:07:36.060 Three, three.

00:07:36.780 We did three under three.

00:07:38.100 My eldest just turned four.

00:07:39.880 And so, yeah, we're on another, we are on another planet right now in my house.

00:07:43.040 Like the toddlers are running things.

00:07:44.600 They're running things.

00:07:45.380 They are.

00:07:45.660 I'm scared of them.

00:07:46.560 Yeah.

00:07:46.820 And I feel comfortable saying that here.

00:07:48.620 I wouldn't tell them that.

00:07:49.840 I act tough.

00:07:50.960 No, you gotta, yeah.

00:07:51.860 I think you go away from the house.

00:07:53.020 We don't let them know we're outnumbered, you know, because they're just kind of learning

00:07:55.500 to count.

00:07:56.320 But we are fully outnumbered.

00:07:58.240 You only teach them to count at two.

00:08:00.860 Before they start making sense and having a little toddler meetings of like, hey, listen up.

00:08:04.940 There's more of us than there are of them.

00:08:07.440 I watched way too much Rugrats growing up.

00:08:09.720 Oh, yeah.

00:08:10.380 I forgot.

00:08:10.880 I didn't see.

00:08:11.600 It's interesting that you would see Rugrats as like a, like a psyop idea of like babies

00:08:17.620 kind of like coagulating and forming like a Lord of the Flies.

00:08:21.380 Tommy had a screwdriver at all times.

00:08:24.440 Good point.

00:08:24.680 He was a moral person, but he had a screwdriver at all times in his, yeah, there's two of

00:08:29.620 them.

00:08:29.680 Oh, that diaper was thick too.

00:08:30.800 And I'll say this.

00:08:32.340 This is a little girl on the right.

00:08:34.020 Uh-huh.

00:08:34.800 She looks like, and this guy is also a very handsome guy.

00:08:39.360 In this photo, she looks like Anthony Smith, who is a, one of the greatest UFC fighters.

00:08:44.300 Bring up a photo of Anthony Smith as well on a separate eye, separate.

00:08:47.300 And I shouldn't say that because she's going to get upset.

00:08:50.260 Yeah.

00:08:50.440 And she's not the one to upset.

00:08:51.900 So you just be very careful here before she, Anthony Smith.

00:08:54.860 Okay.

00:08:55.160 Okay.

00:08:55.520 Yeah.

00:08:55.720 Nevermind.

00:08:56.820 Oh, you have a beautiful family.

00:08:59.920 Um, are you able to take a vacation?

00:09:01.780 Were you able to take any vacations recently or anything?

00:09:03.540 Yeah, we went, just got back.

00:09:05.520 I'm saying just got back, but that's how it feels like time is flying.

00:09:07.700 But, uh, we spent all of December overseas.

00:09:09.820 So we spent a lot of time in England because we just want to spend time with my husband's

00:09:13.660 family.

00:09:13.960 And then we popped over to Switzerland for a ski trip, which was awesome.

00:09:17.460 Yeah.

00:09:17.740 Yeah.

00:09:18.000 So, and I had a lot of these thoughts, like when we were walking through Zermatt and I

00:09:22.180 love Switzerland, it's a beautiful country, but you know, you get the tour and you're way

00:09:25.720 up in the mountains and they figured out how to just live in the mountains.

00:09:29.080 And you get these moments where you're just like, you know, there were no black people

00:09:32.560 here when this was built.

00:09:33.320 Cause there's no way we would even like, it's so cold that we would be like, let's see if

00:09:37.860 we can get a sleigh up here and try to build roads.

00:09:40.680 Like, it's just, and it's amazing.

00:09:42.200 Like Zermatt, like you'll get that.

00:09:43.220 It's, it's the most beautiful town.

00:09:44.780 And they figured out how to make everything happen on tiny little roads and with taxis

00:09:49.000 going up and in between.

00:09:50.720 Wow.

00:09:51.260 That's Zurich?

00:09:52.200 That is Zermatt.

00:09:53.400 Zermatt.

00:09:53.900 Yeah.

00:09:54.040 Have you been to Switzerland?

00:09:54.980 I haven't, but you always hear about the Swiss Alps.

00:09:56.920 Is this it?

00:09:57.440 It's beautiful.

00:09:58.040 Yeah.

00:09:58.720 Switzerland is truly a beautiful, beautiful country.

00:10:01.560 And I love the mountains.

00:10:02.460 I will say that I'm a mountain girl.

00:10:03.940 I do not love, I actually kind of hate beaches.

00:10:06.460 Really?

00:10:06.880 I have an issue with sand.

00:10:08.380 I have beef with sand.

00:10:09.780 Yeah.

00:10:10.340 It just gets everywhere.

00:10:11.480 I don't know.

00:10:11.960 It's drying and it gets everywhere and I just don't like it.

00:10:15.700 Yeah.

00:10:16.480 I wonder how I feel about it.

00:10:18.140 Speaking of those villages, actually, yeah, I never, I haven't been there, but my friend,

00:10:22.100 when I was a kid, he won his family football pool or whatever for the NCAA football, like,

00:10:28.120 like whenever they have the bowl games.

00:10:29.640 And his mom, like, coerced him into buying a Switzerland village or whatever that they

00:10:35.600 could put on their table at home.

00:10:37.240 So he, he came into some money.

00:10:39.160 He came in.

00:10:39.700 It was almost like, I think it was like 1100.

00:10:42.220 He came into some money.

00:10:43.380 And so then, dude, like two weeks later, we're like, dude, what are you gonna do with the

00:10:46.300 money?

00:10:46.620 And he had a fricking Christmas village at his house, like.

00:10:50.220 Like a dollhouse.

00:10:51.240 Or just like, you know, those villages people get and it's like Switzerland and his was

00:10:55.120 Switzerland, but it was, um, but he was furious about it.

00:10:57.800 And anyway, I don't know why I told you that story, but, um, but that sounds like a

00:11:01.120 beautiful trip.

00:11:01.560 I would like to go to Switzerland.

00:11:02.860 I spent a little bit of time in, uh, France and then I was in London recently and actually

00:11:06.820 really enjoyed it.

00:11:08.140 Yeah.

00:11:08.360 I hadn't enjoyed it as much before, but I think this time I noticed that the people

00:11:12.100 over there, they seem to have like, um, or at least the women, some of the women over

00:11:16.740 there are more, or maybe this is, I don't want to say women, but there's more going on

00:11:21.780 than just like, um, likes on social media.

00:11:24.700 There are people who seem to have a bit more to them as individuals, but that could just

00:11:28.400 be the people I was talking to.

00:11:29.620 Yeah.

00:11:29.940 I absolutely love London.

00:11:31.120 It's like a second home and there is a totally different culture.

00:11:34.220 And if you're one of those people that I like to be uncomfortable, so I like to go somewhere

00:11:37.780 where I know absolutely nothing and be uncomfortable and learn.

00:11:40.180 And a lot of people don't like that.

00:11:41.540 They instantly become judgmental and kind of resort to stereotypes of, whoa, well the,

00:11:46.340 you know, the English and the King and the Queen and whatever it is that's kind of programmed

00:11:50.060 into you.

00:11:50.860 I am like the exact opposite person.

00:11:52.700 Like I absolutely love their culture.

00:11:55.020 I love that there's so many rules, like there's no reason for rules, but they have rules.

00:11:58.540 You know what I mean?

00:12:00.200 I love that they wear hats still to weddings, like fascinators rather, which I learned.

00:12:05.960 I learned that they're called fascinators, not hats.

00:12:07.820 A fascinator is a hat?

00:12:08.620 It's called a, like the ones you wear to the wedding, those are called fascinators, not

00:12:12.020 hats.

00:12:12.380 And there is a difference.

00:12:13.180 Bring it up.

00:12:13.920 A fascinator.

00:12:15.020 Yeah.

00:12:15.600 And he's not, I want to see, I want to see him spell it too.

00:12:17.400 Cause that's even.

00:12:18.420 He sounds like a gay superhero kind of, that's how I feel.

00:12:21.160 Oh shit.

00:12:24.560 And it's just a dude that shows up and it's like, he doesn't have any specific powers

00:12:28.320 like any of the other superheroes.

00:12:29.640 He's just like more like exciting.

00:12:31.020 He's like, oh shit, there's fascinator, Randy or whatever, dude.

00:12:36.040 That's a fascinator.

00:12:37.320 Oh, that's a female hat.

00:12:39.860 Yeah.

00:12:40.180 And so you wear, they still wear hats to weddings and I love it.

00:12:43.720 So when I go to weddings now, I wear hats.

00:12:47.120 Well, I call them hats just for Americans to understand, but fascinators and to shop

00:12:52.120 for fascinators is really fun.

00:12:54.180 It's actually like, I feel like this, you would be hilarious shopping for a fascinator,

00:12:58.600 you know?

00:12:59.180 Cause you can just find one that speaks to your character, you know?

00:13:02.380 But we've given up that.

00:13:03.560 Like I love gloves, hats.

00:13:05.820 When you see someone wearing a lot of like just hats, gloves, and what's the other thing

00:13:11.900 I like, like your outfit to look complete.

00:13:13.820 You just look more complete.

00:13:14.940 You know what I mean?

00:13:15.640 Oh yeah.

00:13:16.160 There's more, they, they're more, it's, they look a little bit more gift wrapped over there.

00:13:20.880 Right.

00:13:21.500 Whereas here, if it's hats and gloves, it's burglary usually, I feel like.

00:13:25.900 So it's just like America's kind of like.

00:13:27.600 The best dressed people in America are burglars, if we're being honest.

00:13:30.300 We have so many burglars now, there should be a contest, I feel like.

00:13:34.260 We've definitely come a long way from the Beagle Boys.

00:13:36.220 Bring those guys up from DuckTales.

00:13:38.300 Those guys were horribly dressed.

00:13:41.460 DuckTales.

00:13:42.060 You strike me as someone who watched the DuckTales.

00:13:44.920 We had to.

00:13:45.440 This was our babysitter.

00:13:46.260 I was like, mom, do we have a babysitter?

00:13:47.640 She's like, yeah, the Beagle Boys.

00:13:49.320 Don't you watch DuckTales every day?

00:13:50.820 I'm like, that's a television program.

00:13:53.240 Scrooge McDuck.

00:13:54.280 This is a throwback.

00:13:55.940 Yeah, I remember it, but it wasn't my number one show for sure.

00:13:59.260 Like I really loved Doug Funny.

00:14:01.480 Oh yeah.

00:14:02.280 He was really like a cool guy.

00:14:03.780 Well, you also ended up marrying a white guy too.

00:14:05.660 So I think that all checks out.

00:14:06.940 Do you think Doug Funny though?

00:14:08.340 He wasn't, I mean, I thought Roger was cooler and he was blue guy.

00:14:11.840 Oh yeah.

00:14:13.260 He was a blue guy, Roger.

00:14:14.700 Oh no, green.

00:14:16.300 Was he green?

00:14:16.880 Oh, Roger.

00:14:18.020 They could have changed him.

00:14:19.260 Yeah, they probably changed him.

00:14:20.240 Yeah, people always say he looks like Macklemore a little bit too.

00:14:22.480 Do you know that thing?

00:14:24.240 What is the term for, it's going to escape me at the moment, but where you go back and

00:14:28.220 you are so certain that something was drawn a certain way.

00:14:31.200 Yeah.

00:14:31.460 The Mandela effect.

00:14:33.080 Yeah.

00:14:33.320 That really creeps me out too.

00:14:35.240 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:14:36.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:36.600 You'll be like, no, it was exactly like this.

00:14:38.560 And then it, it wasn't.

00:14:40.260 Right.

00:14:40.740 And I'm certain it was like the Bernstein bears.

00:14:44.200 Like.

00:14:44.380 Yeah, that's the big one people talk about a lot.

00:14:45.980 Yeah.

00:14:46.380 That freaks me out.

00:14:47.100 Remember many people, let me see.

00:14:48.540 The Mandela effect is when a group of people misremember something such as a brand name

00:14:52.840 or event.

00:14:53.840 Some examples include many people remember.

00:14:56.080 Yes.

00:14:56.520 Fruit of the loom had a cornucopia.

00:14:58.760 I agree.

00:14:59.840 And they're saying it doesn't now.

00:15:01.300 So who's doing it?

00:15:02.060 Who's deleting it?

00:15:02.820 Who's deleting the files of our memories?

00:15:04.740 Because I am certain fruit of the loom had a cornucopia.

00:15:08.620 A little cornucopia, a little fruit, a little loom.

00:15:12.040 Are you brought the loom?

00:15:13.360 I don't know what a loom is.

00:15:14.280 I don't want to.

00:15:14.700 But this is the kind of stuff where they just are deleting, they're deleting files now.

00:15:19.980 So someone is just at the CIA just like hitting the delete button and then they just.

00:15:23.420 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:15:24.100 Pretend it didn't happen.

00:15:25.000 I'm not surprised.

00:15:25.520 I'll have one for you.

00:15:26.180 Pikachu.

00:15:27.160 Okay.

00:15:28.040 Was there, describe his tail.

00:15:31.280 Pikachu short.

00:15:34.320 Let me think of him.

00:15:36.080 Yeah.

00:15:36.480 Oh God, he's nasty.

00:15:37.520 He had short little tail, kind of like a, just like a little triangle, like a isosceles

00:15:47.040 triangle kind of coming off of him.

00:15:48.340 But what color was it?

00:15:49.880 His tail was yellow.

00:15:51.280 You don't remember anything on it?

00:15:53.560 Maybe it had a little ball at the end or something, like a little black ball at the

00:15:57.740 end.

00:15:57.880 Yes.

00:15:58.240 There was no black little thing at the end of it.

00:16:01.440 Now they're saying Pikachu never had that.

00:16:03.800 That stresses me out.

00:16:04.860 Oh, there was a black ball at the end.

00:16:07.140 The one on the left is correct.

00:16:09.000 And they're saying the black ball never existed.

00:16:10.920 So someone's just deleting the files.

00:16:12.900 They're deleting the files.

00:16:13.900 Well, I wouldn't be, it's like, it feels like that a lot of times.

00:16:18.000 And we get so like compromised in our brains because we only have so much bandwidth, right?

00:16:22.900 Like we think we have this immense amount of bandwidth, but we really don't.

00:16:25.600 And so it's like, once you're like files are kind of filled, it's like, that's all you

00:16:29.420 have.

00:16:29.940 Yeah.

00:16:30.340 Are you saying we're getting old?

00:16:31.860 Yeah.

00:16:32.220 I think that doesn't help, you know?

00:16:33.340 Yeah.

00:16:33.840 Candace Owens, thanks for hanging out with me today.

00:16:36.380 I appreciate it.

00:16:37.180 It's nice to see you.

00:16:38.100 Thank you.

00:16:38.680 Yeah.

00:16:39.080 I think you're like such a brave, you're like veracity.

00:16:43.820 You're like fearless, you know?

00:16:45.840 And you're like, you're fear.

00:16:49.260 I don't think anybody couldn't say those things about you.

00:16:51.960 Do you ever like get worried for your own safety or anything these days?

00:16:56.960 Does that happen?

00:16:57.580 I really don't.

00:16:59.600 And it's definitely a consideration like because people are constantly saying to me, worry about

00:17:04.700 your safety, get security.

00:17:06.420 But I kind of think security is one of these things that you get for your own vanity because

00:17:09.880 my perspective is they shot JFK in a moving vehicle.

00:17:13.760 He's supposed to be the most secure person in the United States.

00:17:16.680 And so when you see people walking around and they've got security, I'm like, okay, maybe

00:17:20.600 it makes you feel good.

00:17:21.760 But at the end of the day, it's in God's hands.

00:17:24.640 So yeah, it's just, yeah, they can easily catch me outside of an Eddie Bauer or something,

00:17:28.660 you know?

00:17:28.880 That's what I mean.

00:17:29.480 In a heartbeat.

00:17:30.280 That won't be.

00:17:30.960 Won't be that difficult.

00:17:31.800 So I am extremely realistic about things like that.

00:17:35.680 And I also think that there's safety in people even saying to watch your safety.

00:17:40.080 Like if people are looking out for you and those sorts of things, I think we live in a

00:17:43.960 different world now with social media and people that are way more invested in individuals.

00:17:48.640 And the things that were able to happen like in the 60s couldn't really happen today without

00:17:52.760 causing a major firestorm.

00:17:55.060 So I try not to think about that too much.

00:17:56.420 I worry more about the, just the privacy as a parent to children, like that would be,

00:18:02.720 that's the one area.

00:18:03.940 Because I've seen some clips online of people getting wackadoodle, whether you're talking

00:18:09.120 left or right.

00:18:09.860 Some people can just get way too crazy and way too comfortable and will go up to someone

00:18:14.720 when they're with their kids.

00:18:16.340 Like I've seen a clip of someone years ago that was chastising Tucker Carlson.

00:18:21.780 Like he was, I think he was in Jackson Hole, like he was in Wyoming.

00:18:25.640 We're just, nothing happens in Wyoming.

00:18:27.820 Oh, I think I remember this clip maybe.

00:18:29.700 Yeah.

00:18:30.160 But he was with his children.

00:18:31.240 He was with his children.

00:18:32.480 And that's so bizarre because then the kid is witnessing and the kid is like, what's

00:18:36.420 even going on?

00:18:37.360 Right.

00:18:37.620 They have no idea who I, my kids have no idea who I am.

00:18:40.280 Yeah.

00:18:40.420 He's like, I thought my dad sold nicotine pouches.

00:18:42.800 He's a, he's a, he's a.

00:18:45.100 They think I make breakfast, do laundry.

00:18:47.700 You know what I mean?

00:18:48.420 So if someone comes up and they start screaming, they're, they're likely to join in.

00:18:51.880 Yeah.

00:18:54.160 We've got him out, got her outnumbered, but that sort of a thing, traumatizing a child

00:18:59.080 for the sake of your political beliefs.

00:19:00.860 And I worry in those scenarios, just cause I don't trust myself not to fly off with a

00:19:05.100 handle, you know, because I, there's a natural bear instinct that mothers have and it's like,

00:19:09.900 stay away from the Cubs, stay away from the Cubs.

00:19:11.520 So that's, I think my only daily consideration.

00:19:13.840 I saw, um, oh, is this the clip?

00:19:17.880 Is this him talking about it?

00:19:19.060 It's hard to have lunch at the Four Seasons in Jackson during the winter because there's

00:19:24.200 some private equity wife who's going to scream at you on your way to the men's room because

00:19:27.340 that world hates you.

00:19:29.280 He happens to live in Jackson, Wyoming.

00:19:31.200 So, and I go there, you know, to ski and to fish and I have for a very long time.

00:19:35.220 And I always say to him, I can't go anymore.

00:19:37.740 Cause I yelled at, at lunch over my elk chili or in the lift line or whatever, or at the,

00:19:43.640 you know, West side market.

00:19:44.860 Yeah.

00:19:45.140 People can get a little bit crazy.

00:19:46.560 Yeah.

00:19:46.960 Um, so that's kind of your biggest concern.

00:19:49.200 Do you, um, did you see that Trump signed that executive order for the healthcare?

00:19:55.080 Which one?

00:19:55.800 Oh, the one that he recently signed that was just going.

00:19:58.180 Yeah.

00:19:58.380 I think it was like two days ago.

00:19:59.440 Can you bring that up?

00:20:01.040 This was like about price transparency.

00:20:03.300 Yes.

00:20:03.540 I did see this and it's amazing because I've been kind of one of these people that's been

00:20:08.720 beating the drum on the health stuff before it was cool.

00:20:10.960 Like I was called anti-vax and whatever, irresponsible, stupid, you're going to kill

00:20:15.600 your kids because polio is going to come back.

00:20:18.060 You know, all the good things people say on the internet.

00:20:20.320 And, um, it's so great to see that something that I've been saying publicly, I may have been

00:20:25.380 saying this since I was 20, since I was vax injured, but something that I've been saying

00:20:28.680 public since I've had a platform is finally catching and people are starting to ask questions.

00:20:32.420 And, and so I think that that's actually one of the places where the left and the right

00:20:37.980 come together.

00:20:38.460 Cause I say to my, like conservatives actually caught on late to the health movement.

00:20:41.460 It was actually these leftist moms who were like super granola and crunchy, you know?

00:20:45.940 I believe that for sure.

00:20:47.140 Yeah.

00:20:47.540 And California moms.

00:20:48.860 And they were the ones that were kind of, they were behind that health campaign long

00:20:52.920 before conservatives caught onto it.

00:20:54.460 And so, and where there was no information for parents who didn't want to choose to vaccinate

00:20:58.660 their children.

00:20:59.160 And I found RFK junior who I had disagreements with, but, um, he was the only person that

00:21:04.980 was publishing information via his children's health defense website.

00:21:09.060 And I printed out everything and learned everything kind of from the beginning.

00:21:12.360 And so to see this now become like a national movement is so cool.

00:21:15.940 It's just about people having rights.

00:21:17.340 Like, you know what I mean?

00:21:18.280 Like you shouldn't be blindfolded when you go into a hospital, you're there for a couple hours

00:21:22.520 and you get a bill that's $2,000.

00:21:24.000 Like, yeah, that Tylenol we gave you, that was, that was, uh, $300.

00:21:27.180 Like, well, I would have never taken the effing Tylenol if I knew it was gonna be $300.

00:21:31.020 Yeah.

00:21:31.120 They're like, it was mined from the Tylenol mines in Rome or whatever.

00:21:34.080 And you're like, that is on, you're lying.

00:21:37.220 Um, this is unbelievable though.

00:21:38.660 I mean, this is, I think this is amazing.

00:21:40.440 This is, um, empowering patients through radical price transparency.

00:21:44.080 Today, President Trump signed an executive order to empower patients with clear, accurate

00:21:47.780 and actionable healthcare pricing information.

00:21:50.520 Uh, the order directs the Department of Treasury, Labor and Health and Human Services.

00:21:53.980 to rapidly implement and enforce the healthcare price transparency regulations.

00:21:58.840 Um, they, the departments will insure hospitals and insurers disclose actual prices, not estimates,

00:22:04.880 and take action to make prices comparable across hospitals.

00:22:08.040 And, um, yeah, I think because the number one cause, this is one thing that, like, during the,

00:22:13.220 I've never really been super political, but one thing that I did latch onto, um, over the past few years

00:22:19.200 is this program called, uh, Power to the Patients.

00:22:21.500 And Fat Joe, like, has been, um, like an advocate for them.

00:22:25.720 We've done some stuff for them.

00:22:27.060 John Jones, uh, the UFC fighter.

00:22:30.060 But it's that, yeah, when you go to, yeah, there they are right there.

00:22:33.840 When you go to the hospital, they can just say, agree to pay.

00:22:37.880 Then you get the bill later and the prices are insane.

00:22:40.600 But you have no idea what the prices are.

00:22:42.900 They're burglars and they're not even wearing fascinators.

00:22:45.040 Yeah.

00:22:45.460 You know what I mean?

00:22:45.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:47.020 That's what pisses me off the most.

00:22:48.180 They're not even wearing fascinators and they're burglars.

00:22:50.800 And it's ridiculous because they're usually stealing from the poorest people in America.

00:22:55.420 And it's, it's so awful.

00:22:57.080 It's so awful.

00:22:57.780 What's, what's been allowed to happen.

00:22:59.180 But sometimes when I see these executive orders, which by the way, I just random side

00:23:02.480 thought, cause my brain works like this.

00:23:03.820 Fat Joe is not fat anymore.

00:23:04.880 He hasn't been fat for a very long time.

00:23:06.600 That's true.

00:23:06.780 But the price they charged him for it is insane though.

00:23:08.880 Yeah, really?

00:23:09.860 Crazy.

00:23:10.460 He's in good shape now.

00:23:11.960 You're right.

00:23:12.420 Sorry.

00:23:12.720 Medium Joe.

00:23:13.500 Medium Joe.

00:23:14.220 Yeah.

00:23:14.320 Medium Joe.

00:23:16.000 But he's absolutely right.

00:23:17.260 And it's, like I said, the people that suffer the most, and it seems like that is kind of

00:23:21.480 the economic model of America is steal from the poor to further enrich the rich.

00:23:25.820 And there's no greater example of that than the healthcare system.

00:23:28.740 And it's ridiculous when people say this is an example of capitalism.

00:23:31.260 It's not.

00:23:31.860 It's the exact opposite of capitalism.

00:23:33.780 There cannot be capitalism in free markets where you don't know how much something costs.

00:23:37.240 It would be wild.

00:23:38.020 And I try to get people this understanding because you've grown up in the system.

00:23:41.580 So you think it's normal.

00:23:42.460 It's the craziest thing you've ever seen.

00:23:44.140 Like, imagine you come into a store and you're in there.

00:23:45.920 You're like, how much does a shirt cost?

00:23:48.020 Um, can't tell you right now.

00:23:49.940 Can't tell you right now.

00:23:50.780 Like, you know, just pick up the shirt.

00:23:51.960 See what you want.

00:23:52.600 You know, take whatever you want.

00:23:53.900 And then we'll bill you.

00:23:55.060 And they just make up the prices after you're gone.

00:23:56.980 And they're like, actually, like that one t-shirt was $20,000.

00:23:59.980 And you're going, if I had known it was $20,000, I wouldn't have gotten the t-shirt.

00:24:02.840 You have to be able to actually price shop and say, this store is now going to go out

00:24:06.460 of business because it's too expensive.

00:24:08.380 And the greatest example of that is that you really know it's a drug cartel in operation.

00:24:11.960 It's, it's the ambitions of, um, all of the people that they do documentary series on

00:24:18.360 or not documentary series, like create all these Netflix series about the, the big drug

00:24:21.380 dealers.

00:24:21.720 What's the name of the cartel family?

00:24:23.440 Purdue?

00:24:24.380 No, in Mexico.

00:24:26.000 Oh, uh, but yes, to the Sacklers and, but the, but essentially the, uh, El Chapo.

00:24:31.560 Yeah.

00:24:31.840 When you think about El Chapo and who's the guy in Columbia as well.

00:24:35.320 I hit on his wife online one time.

00:24:36.880 Did you?

00:24:37.280 El Chapo's wife?

00:24:38.120 It was an accident.

00:24:39.280 Yeah, it wasn't.

00:24:39.680 I mean, it wasn't an accident, but I thought he was deceased.

00:24:41.700 He's not.

00:24:42.420 Oh, so you're probably going to get killed.

00:24:45.020 Sad.

00:24:45.660 I don't know.

00:24:46.140 Yeah.

00:24:46.380 I really like your stuff.

00:24:47.120 That's awesome.

00:24:47.660 Yeah.

00:24:47.700 It's sad.

00:24:49.560 That's feelings go fast these days, man.

00:24:51.820 But what are you saying?

00:24:53.340 That it's very similar to this?

00:24:54.340 It's a cartel.

00:24:54.440 It's what they wanted.

00:24:55.140 They wanted a marriage with the government so that they would be able to push drugs.

00:24:58.960 That's exactly what America is.

00:25:00.380 And we, and we do these series, like we're like so highfalutin, like the oof, oof, we would

00:25:04.640 never engage.

00:25:05.760 This is what we do.

00:25:06.840 It is a drug trade that is happening in plain sight.

00:25:09.100 And, you know, you've got politicians who accept it because we have more big pharma lobbyists

00:25:14.620 in DC than we have congressmen.

00:25:16.460 That's wild.

00:25:17.300 Yeah.

00:25:17.560 It's unbelievable.

00:25:18.480 I mean, that was, and this was one thing that like Bernie Sanders and, uh, Trump,

00:25:21.820 agreed on that Vance, this was like one thing that ever, that all, but that both sides,

00:25:26.560 like it was bipartisan, right?

00:25:28.520 But my question is like, because now when you go, you can say, okay, well, if it's $700

00:25:33.320 here for this MRI, I'm going to call across the street and they're going to have to make

00:25:37.180 it 500 if they want your business.

00:25:38.720 So now you'll get to the actual prices eventually.

00:25:42.280 And that's what happened with LASIK surgery.

00:25:44.140 So what's interesting is that when insurance companies kicked out, LASIK surgery used to be

00:25:48.060 something that insurance companies covered.

00:25:49.460 And then they decided that it was cosmetic.

00:25:51.080 So they were no longer going to cover it.

00:25:52.540 When insurance companies were covering it, it was about $10,000, 10 to $15,000 per an

00:25:57.960 eye.

00:25:58.260 Then when they said, we're not going to cover it, suddenly the doctors had to compete.

00:26:01.820 And now you can get LASIK eye surgery for $3,500 for both of your eyes.

00:26:06.280 Well, they need you to be able to see so they can fuck you over.

00:26:09.020 They're like, we can't even fuck these people over anymore because they can't see.

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00:29:55.480 Get rid of these insurance companies so that we can just pay for what stuff costs.

00:29:59.540 Like, I'm happy to go into CVS and buy the $15 Tylenol rather than to pay because the insurance

00:30:05.820 companies are gauging prices or gauging prices, and suddenly it's, you know, $300 for a piece

00:30:10.100 Tylenol.

00:30:10.160 And then the stress, too.

00:30:11.240 That's the thing that Bernie Sanders was talking a ton about.

00:30:13.000 It's like the stress that people sit there, because the number one cause of bankruptcy is

00:30:16.520 medical debt in America.

00:30:19.060 And just the stress that that causes people, you know?

00:30:21.900 You've lived your life.

00:30:22.880 Suddenly you're sick.

00:30:23.720 You're going to get sick anyway because you're getting older, and now you just are stressed

00:30:27.320 at the price because they send this thing.

00:30:29.140 And then the value you put on your own life at that moment and the constant stress of calling

00:30:34.320 these companies and just this war.

00:30:36.920 And yeah, medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.

00:30:41.080 Accounting for 66.5% of all bankruptcies.

00:30:44.120 And there's a talk right now of Medicaid being cut, right?

00:30:47.640 But this, if, and I'm hoping this is part of their plan that they will enforce this,

00:30:54.240 because that's the problem.

00:30:55.120 This happened before that Trump made this in order, and it wasn't enforced.

00:30:58.780 It was when he was leaving office.

00:31:00.940 So I'm hoping that this time that this is something that they will enforce and will

00:31:05.320 actually get the prices down.

00:31:06.480 And then you won't even need as much Medicaid because the prices will be real, you know?

00:31:10.940 So I'm hoping it's part of like a simultaneous thing that they're doing.

00:31:14.380 Well, it's good that it's become like the mainstream conversation, because most people

00:31:18.100 didn't understand it.

00:31:18.920 Like I said, when you grow up in a system, and the congressman will then do a really good

00:31:23.000 job of making you fearful.

00:31:24.660 Like, oh, if this happens, if we get rid of Medicaid, if we get rid of Obamacare, whatever

00:31:28.500 it is, then you guys are not going to be able to afford, and it's actually the exact

00:31:32.160 opposite.

00:31:32.680 Like you get rid of these things, and you'll be able to afford it because you're getting

00:31:35.940 rid of all of these people that are just taking money from you and stealing from you.

00:31:39.500 Why do you think it takes, like, this is one thing I'm noticing about government.

00:31:43.280 It's like, no matter who's in office, whether it's Republicans or Democrats, it's always the

00:31:52.060 same shit.

00:31:52.440 But nothing ever changes, you know?

00:31:54.960 It's like you would think at some point they would give you the, you know, you would get

00:32:00.460 some of these things solved.

00:32:01.820 Like, even with this, like, why does it take something so long?

00:32:04.840 Like, are both sides just screwing?

00:32:07.260 You start to think that just both sides are just screwing us.

00:32:10.160 Well, we need term limits.

00:32:11.400 This is the problem.

00:32:12.120 So if you have no incentive, if you are going into government, and you know that you can stay

00:32:15.660 in government forever, then you have to think of government as your employer.

00:32:18.700 And you want the company that you work for, the same way that you have a company, I have

00:32:22.220 a company, to grow, right?

00:32:25.200 Obviously, your job here, when you're doing this podcast, you're not like, well, what can

00:32:28.540 I do to make, you know, the podcast smaller, you know?

00:32:31.220 And so they are going there, and if they had term limits, they would be like, well, in four

00:32:35.160 years, if we say four or six years, whatever it is, I got to go back and be a regular American.

00:32:39.160 So I have no incentive to help grow government.

00:32:41.880 I have every incentive to help grow individuals and grow families and make sure that prices are low.

00:32:46.340 They're going in with the exact wrong mentality.

00:32:47.840 Then they get in there, and it's like, you can actually be here in time.

00:32:50.540 How old is Nancy Pelosi?

00:32:52.120 She's like the Crypt Keeper, right?

00:32:53.720 Think about how old our government is, and they've been there forever.

00:32:56.460 Biden's been in government forever.

00:32:58.440 So their incentive becomes, this is my company, and I'm going to help grow it.

00:33:02.480 And then the lobbyists come to them, and they want to stay in office forever.

00:33:05.180 They want to grow their power.

00:33:05.580 Oh, Chuck Schumer, that slurp lizard's been in there for freaking forever.

00:33:08.480 Yes.

00:33:08.860 And so that would change overnight.

00:33:10.940 Their incentives to recognize that they're going to spend the majority of their life outside of

00:33:15.920 government would make them go in there and want to make things better for us, and that's

00:33:20.680 the problem.

00:33:21.140 So I'm a big supporter of term limits.

00:33:24.380 And there's a problem where people shouldn't be able, if they're in government, they shouldn't

00:33:30.500 be able to then work for lobbies right after because then they're working for the lobbies.

00:33:34.500 That was one thing.

00:33:36.580 The lobbying shouldn't be allowed, in my viewpoint, should be allowed, period.

00:33:39.140 It should be just completely outlawed.

00:33:40.940 But every American feels that way.

00:33:42.900 So why is it like, what are we even fucking doing then, it feels like?

00:33:47.300 Because they don't care what we think.

00:33:49.060 And that's why Trump referred to it as a swamp, right?

00:33:52.080 They don't actually care what we think.

00:33:53.080 Once you get them into office, their job is to keep themselves into office, keep themselves

00:33:57.460 empowered forever.

00:33:58.300 And they're just in the business of trying to explain in really dumb terms to the American

00:34:03.800 people, like I said, fear mongering.

00:34:06.120 Well, the reason I had to sign this, it's all buried.

00:34:08.120 It's like 3,000.

00:34:09.140 That's why I love Thomas Massey, by the way, because Thomas Massey will say, we just need

00:34:12.960 these bills that we're signing or one line.

00:34:15.960 Instead, it's like if they even ever agree to do anything for us, it's because they've

00:34:19.620 already done 37 million things for themselves in the first 37,000 pages of the document.

00:34:24.900 And on the last page, it's something for the American people.

00:34:27.300 It's crazy.

00:34:28.480 Why do bills need to be 300 pages long?

00:34:31.580 Yeah.

00:34:31.800 And lobbyists are writing half of the bills, too.

00:34:33.760 That's one of the craziest things.

00:34:34.680 They're writing the bills.

00:34:35.420 They're getting the bills passed.

00:34:36.720 And we have a bunch of traitors in Congress.

00:34:39.500 I mean, that is just the reality of the circumstances.

00:34:41.440 And anybody telling you that it's just traitors on the left or traitors on the right is lying

00:34:45.180 to you.

00:34:45.880 We have traitors on both sides.

00:34:47.380 It's very obvious we have traitors on both sides.

00:34:49.620 But how do they keep them from just saying, hey, wouldn't you think at least two or three

00:34:55.040 people a year would be like, hey, this whole thing's a fucking charade?

00:34:58.280 They do.

00:34:59.300 Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas, so few, so few, because that's what money is.

00:35:05.360 People worship money.

00:35:06.360 They don't worship values.

00:35:07.760 We have this issue in the media.

00:35:09.500 We have this issue in government.

00:35:10.740 We have this issue in business.

00:35:12.340 You know, there is just something about money that just turns everyone into a prostitute.

00:35:16.660 And it's sad.

00:35:17.740 I mean, I've seen it up close.

00:35:18.760 I've been, you know, there's this expression, never meet your idols.

00:35:24.480 And I felt that the closer that I got to politics, the more I realized how much I hate

00:35:30.740 politics.

00:35:31.180 I've always hated politics, but you hate it extra once you start to meet people and you

00:35:34.900 realize that everyone's in it just to enrich themselves.

00:35:38.240 And so few people will be able to walk away from riches, so to speak, because they actually

00:35:44.520 want to do something good.

00:35:45.700 And those people tend to have something that's so much better than riches, which is like their

00:35:49.060 lives are in order.

00:35:49.960 They have families.

00:35:50.820 They're actually happy.

00:35:52.460 They don't want more, you know, so.

00:35:55.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:55.960 I think that's what dumbfounds me the most.

00:35:58.140 And you believe this program.

00:36:00.000 You believe it because as like, I guess like an American or a citizen of any country, you

00:36:04.680 want to believe in the altruistic nature, not totally altruistic, but at least maybe 75%

00:36:10.540 altruistic nature of people or that people want to do well.

00:36:14.060 Yeah, I think that's one of the things that's most baffling.

00:36:17.780 And then at a certain point, does that just have to start to turn?

00:36:20.660 Because the grossness of wealth, it starts, you just start to see how sick it is and how

00:36:27.600 sour it is.

00:36:29.280 That's easy for me to say that, you know, I can pay my mortgage and I have, you know,

00:36:32.460 know that I can afford food.

00:36:33.740 Um, so maybe that's an unfair thing for me to say, but I just think there's this overall,

00:36:38.320 um, kind of theory there or feeling there.

00:36:41.560 So what do you think is going to be different about Trump in office this time?

00:36:44.380 Like, I mean, I think it's good.

00:36:45.540 If they enforce this thing, um, that's going to be amazing.

00:36:49.300 I'm curious to see if they will.

00:36:51.120 Um, but what do you think is going to be different about him in office this time?

00:36:55.000 Look, where there's going to be great stuff and there's going to be bad stuff.

00:36:58.640 There's no question in my mind, you know, that Trump is, is less beholden to the state.

00:37:03.220 And that was why the state fought so hard to keep him out.

00:37:05.740 And I always pay attention to those people because I, I have a almost reverse relationship

00:37:09.900 with the media when someone's being super attacked and the entire mainstream media hates

00:37:14.640 them.

00:37:14.980 I usually, uh, assume that there's some modicum of truth there.

00:37:18.120 There's something that they're fighting for that makes them hate them so much.

00:37:20.620 And that's like how I came across Thomas Massey.

00:37:22.320 And, um, yeah, I would say with Trump, he, he is definitely a person that does not love

00:37:28.080 war.

00:37:28.700 And so the military industrial complex, and he's definitely a person who looks at things

00:37:34.100 like a businessman, which is just, why would you want to have all of this money going out

00:37:37.900 of your company?

00:37:38.860 So to speak, if you treat your country like a company and it, and it makes entirely no

00:37:42.500 sense.

00:37:42.620 You don't even know where it's going, going to obscure causes.

00:37:44.720 Like, why are we funding like Pakistani LGBT rights?

00:37:47.800 Like weird when you take a look at it.

00:37:49.340 And so it's cool to see him instantly attack that and that they're automatically, I mean,

00:37:54.340 like when they went through, you said, it's just amazing to see that.

00:37:57.520 So you're, I think in terms of the economy, we are going to instantly kind of bounce back

00:38:01.460 and people are, you can already feel it now.

00:38:03.380 People are, aren't holding their money as much.

00:38:05.460 I think there was, there was a, to me, I felt, and I don't know if I'm biased because

00:38:08.560 I'm conservative, but there was a kind of a darkness and a fear when Biden was president

00:38:13.060 and it wasn't because Biden was president.

00:38:14.780 It was because we knew Biden wasn't president.

00:38:16.740 It's not quite, quite strange.

00:38:17.660 Oh yeah.

00:38:18.060 That's like the scariest part.

00:38:19.120 Like it wasn't because he was president.

00:38:20.500 It was because he wasn't president.

00:38:22.080 So it's like who, who was running the country?

00:38:24.100 I agree.

00:38:24.480 I can't believe that every day there wasn't a newspaper article from every company that

00:38:29.400 was like, Hey, there is a man who is obviously being commandeered, um, who is a puppet because

00:38:35.780 he is not mentally well.

00:38:37.420 It's not even a knock on him.

00:38:39.300 The guy's not well.

00:38:40.380 Right.

00:38:40.760 It's like, if somebody did that to my grandpa, grandfather or father, I've said that forever,

00:38:45.240 you know?

00:38:45.740 And I, you know, it's embarrassing.

00:38:47.420 Yeah.

00:38:47.540 But the family let it do it.

00:38:48.480 It's embarrassing to the rest of the world.

00:38:49.940 It's like people can tell the guy's not well and they put him on the bike for 40 feet or

00:38:53.780 whatever.

00:38:54.060 And it was like, who put him on the bike?

00:38:56.280 Falls over.

00:38:57.060 They got, well, it's just like, you can't put that guy on a bike, dude.

00:39:00.560 It was elder abuse.

00:39:01.940 It is.

00:39:02.320 That's what it felt like to me.

00:39:03.180 It felt like elder abuse and it felt like a horrible way for also for the world to see

00:39:06.400 us like, Oh, this is what they think of their elders.

00:39:09.340 Right.

00:39:09.860 And that kind of hits you in a place where like, man, it's just gross.

00:39:13.120 Like people took advantage of this guy.

00:39:14.700 I'm amazed that his wife didn't speak up.

00:39:16.760 Um, maybe that his son, that his children didn't speak up, but also I don't know what their

00:39:21.220 lives are like.

00:39:21.800 I don't really know.

00:39:22.860 Or, and maybe he wanted to not, there may have been a big part of him that he did was

00:39:27.200 able to speak well and communicate and said, I don't, I want to keep going, you know?

00:39:31.500 Um, but, uh, what, what do you like?

00:39:35.600 I'm kind of conflicted about Trump, like with his, um, stance on Gaza.

00:39:40.880 Right.

00:39:41.220 To me, that's like, I totally disagree with him on it.

00:39:43.480 And I, and it's like, it's hard to reconcile it in many ways.

00:39:47.700 It's hard to reconcile because I see so much hypocrisy in terms of when we say America

00:39:52.580 first, for whatever reason, we have this magic carve out and you cannot pretend that that's

00:39:56.700 not because AIPAC spends a hundred million dollars in our election.

00:39:59.840 And this gets back to what we were talking about, whether it's big pharma, whether it's

00:40:02.660 Israel, everyone's for sale in DC.

00:40:04.900 And so I have been very disappointed with Trump on his perspectives about Gaza.

00:40:10.380 I have been disappointed by the way.

00:40:12.820 He's the last person disappointed with, because I've been disappointed as we saw all last year

00:40:16.320 with the conservative conservatives, people that say they're Christians who are condoning

00:40:19.780 this on the basis of what, like you're saying, oh, well, they're Muslims.

00:40:22.100 So who cares?

00:40:23.020 And that gets into our programming, which I've spoken about in my podcast of this 9-11 programming

00:40:27.800 where we just don't see Muslims as like human life.

00:40:29.940 And to, you know, to me, to speak about Gaza and talking about casinos and hotels and these

00:40:37.760 people just lost their entire families, it's so far removed from humanity.

00:40:42.880 And I think it's wrong.

00:40:44.980 And I'm tired of America being used as Israel's piggyback.

00:40:47.880 You know, for whatever reason, everyone can critique every other country for taking money

00:40:50.640 from us.

00:40:51.400 And then there's just everyone's blind when it comes to Israel.

00:40:54.220 And obviously, I paid a very heavy price for saying that last year, but I don't care

00:40:57.740 because I am truly someone whose values have never been up for sale.

00:41:00.700 Like, I don't care.

00:41:01.300 I will burn everything to the ground and rebuild it.

00:41:03.620 I have to be able to like sleep at night.

00:41:05.820 And to see those Palestinian children and the images are seared into my brain, the screaming,

00:41:13.320 the crying, the bleeding, the stuff that we saw on X for the first time, largely thanks

00:41:17.140 to Elon freeing the bird and really realizing how much we had been lied to about what was

00:41:22.660 happening in that region, I just it was very easy for me to say, take whatever you have

00:41:27.060 to take from me.

00:41:27.500 I just I have to be on like the human side of things.

00:41:29.720 I think it's become both sides of the aisle now just see that, you know, human people just

00:41:36.780 feel like this is that it's just wrong.

00:41:38.560 Of course, what's happened is wrong.

00:41:39.960 Like, probably a year ago, people were afraid to even say that.

00:41:42.880 And now it is what everybody is saying, like even Piers Morgan is saying it on his show

00:41:47.660 now, like people are saying, it's obvious that you can't go and annihilate and genocide

00:41:53.240 this culture and just make them disappear.

00:41:55.840 And then Trump to come on top of it and say they're going to build who's going to you're

00:42:00.900 going to go on a lazy river where there's bodies of like who could even go to that.

00:42:06.380 And what's so crazy is the like the mainstream media thinking that we're so stupid that they're

00:42:14.180 going to condition us to believe that to not support the ethnic cleansing, they're

00:42:18.920 then going to mine our like preconditioned beliefs about the Holocaust and be like, oh,

00:42:24.440 well, you know, a Jewish person died.

00:42:25.840 So if you don't agree with what we're doing over here, then you're a person that wants

00:42:30.280 more Jewish people to die.

00:42:31.220 It's like this is an evil way to try to socially engineer what you want, because actually

00:42:37.120 it's precisely because of what I learned growing up about Holocaust and ethnic cleansings

00:42:41.800 that I do not support what the state of Israel is doing.

00:42:44.180 And you're trying to convince me that it means that if anybody's been wronged in the

00:42:47.340 past, they can't wrong people in the future.

00:42:49.260 You're also wrongly conflating like a Jewish American.

00:42:51.960 Why?

00:42:52.120 You have nothing to do with what's going on Israel.

00:42:53.100 This is a foreign country, you know, no, no more than if right now we were standing

00:42:56.560 up to a genocide that was happening in Ghana.

00:42:58.520 And then when I'm going to be like, oh, well, if you don't support what, you know, the

00:43:02.200 the the president of Ghana wants to do, then you want American slavery back.

00:43:06.540 I'm like, it's like, what are you talking about?

00:43:08.000 Just because I'm black and maybe my family is from Ghana.

00:43:11.140 Why on earth would you would I not be able to critique a foreign country for something

00:43:14.600 that they're doing that is so objectively wrong?

00:43:16.700 And so it's disappointed me as someone who just had so much respect and belief in the

00:43:23.340 conservative movement and believing that it was a principled movement and Christians

00:43:27.620 as well.

00:43:28.180 I've been very disappointed in Christians who are using trying to use this like biblical

00:43:33.660 argument for just, well, no matter what, you know.

00:43:36.620 Are people doing that?

00:43:37.480 Yeah, it's pretty sick, man.

00:43:39.020 It's pretty it is very sick.

00:43:40.720 They're basically saying that the Bible, you know, the Bible will bless those who bless

00:43:45.460 Israel.

00:43:45.880 And I'm like, OK, so we have a country who, first and foremost, doesn't have to give

00:43:49.320 us back our pedophiles.

00:43:50.240 Literally, if you there's they have this weird rule that you can go if you're Jewish and

00:43:54.180 hide as a pedophile and actually an amazing Jewish organization did the work there.

00:43:58.380 You could pull it up.

00:43:59.660 I think it was on CBS.

00:44:01.020 It was I forgot the name of the Jewish organization, but they followed, went to Israel.

00:44:04.120 I was like, why are we harboring pedophiles?

00:44:05.520 So the way there was a Jewish organization that they had pedophiles.

00:44:08.680 They did amazing.

00:44:09.600 No, they were not the pedophiles.

00:44:10.900 They did the investigation to show how people are using how like people who have molested

00:44:16.420 children in America, if they're Jewish, they can then make their trip to Israel and be

00:44:21.100 protected by the government.

00:44:22.140 And Israel doesn't have to bring like they literally don't have to.

00:44:25.560 Yeah.

00:44:27.040 Exposing CBS News.

00:44:28.340 That's second one.

00:44:29.780 How Jewish American.

00:44:30.740 You will not find a single person who says that that's wrong.

00:44:33.100 Hide from justice in Israel.

00:44:34.960 So but can't they hide?

00:44:36.080 Can't can't most people say if you are.

00:44:38.320 So these are people that are Israeli citizens.

00:44:41.660 No, they can then become Israeli.

00:44:43.180 So they're American.

00:44:44.220 Right.

00:44:44.520 So they if they just hop if they're being like on a trial, you get to Israel, they'll

00:44:48.060 protect you.

00:44:48.640 And so they went and went to where all these pedophiles are and spoke a lot about, you

00:44:54.200 know, this this or I can't remember the name of the organization, but they did amazing work

00:44:56.980 there.

00:44:57.220 Jewish Community Watch.

00:44:58.080 That's what it is.

00:44:59.200 And so that's what I mean, where it's like there's also this wrong conflation that annoys

00:45:02.340 me as well, because you have Jewish organizations who will objectively say this is wrong.

00:45:06.220 They recognize they are Americans.

00:45:07.560 They don't support pedophiles.

00:45:08.800 And yet the mainstream media is trying to conflate them and make them think that they

00:45:12.280 have to defend the actions of this state.

00:45:15.080 And yeah, if you even talk about this, let's say it's anti-Semitic.

00:45:17.180 Talk about this.

00:45:17.580 What are you talking about?

00:45:18.260 You're taking billions.

00:45:19.280 That's the difference here.

00:45:20.280 This is a country that is taking billions and billions and billions.

00:45:22.920 It's an American welfare state, you know, and CBS jumped on it.

00:45:26.440 CBS News investigation has found that many accused American pedophiles flee to Israel and

00:45:31.340 bring them to and bringing them justice can be difficult.

00:45:33.780 Okay, has been trying for years to find Caro and help bring them to justice.

00:45:39.360 So Jimmy Caro, he's a wanted man and is considered dangerous, accused of assaulting a nine-year-old

00:45:44.200 girl in Oregon in 2000.

00:45:45.340 He fled to Israel before authorities in the U.S. could apprehend him.

00:45:47.920 But is this just one guy?

00:45:49.340 No, no.

00:45:49.920 So this is a story about how they are doing this.

00:45:52.040 The main story is like that they were investigating is that there's so many people that did this.

00:45:55.620 Why do they allow it?

00:45:57.560 Because they have special consideration and they are not allowed.

00:46:01.380 They don't have to give us back our pedophiles.

00:46:03.080 I don't know.

00:46:03.680 I don't I never understand this random Israeli loopholes and it's it's ridiculous.

00:46:08.180 And the fact that they can just call people anti-Semitic like it's like a sweeping allegation.

00:46:12.860 How dare you notice that this is happening over here?

00:46:15.400 You're you anti-Semite.

00:46:16.560 And it's like you we have every right to critique this nation because you take money from us,

00:46:20.820 especially right.

00:46:21.980 That means when we go to work and taxes are being taken away, we're paying to support this.

00:46:27.360 Then we're being gaslit by the media who's telling us that critiquing them in any way

00:46:31.160 is an act of hatred for Jews, which is just such a nonsense.

00:46:34.980 Oh, I think I don't like that.

00:46:36.400 And yet in Yahoo guy, I hate that guy seems like an evil guy to me.

00:46:40.180 And I think he's seemed like that to most people now because of I mean,

00:46:45.200 mostly I think it's just like nobody wants war or anything.

00:46:48.800 And we're lucky to live in a place where, you know, like Tennessee is not at war with

00:46:53.880 with Kentucky.

00:46:56.700 So there's not like the risk every day or night of things flying over, you know, the fence.

00:47:02.860 But I've thought that that America is a kind of like a shell company.

00:47:08.620 But maybe it's always just been that way.

00:47:10.820 Like that's the thing.

00:47:13.080 Like maybe it's always been that way.

00:47:14.840 Maybe it isn't.

00:47:15.580 I just would like to know what it is.

00:47:17.640 Right. So then it's like you can operate within the reality of things.

00:47:21.180 Yeah, because but then also people say that, like, well, why do you think there's such a

00:47:26.040 strong relationship between the two countries then?

00:47:28.940 Blackmail.

00:47:30.980 I think blackmail.

00:47:32.140 And I think this is the reason why we don't get to open the Epstein files.

00:47:34.700 You don't get to open the JFK files.

00:47:36.280 And I think it's a form of gaslighting us to pretend that our special friend and ally isn't

00:47:41.600 just a I mean, and by the way, parking aside America, other countries to you investigate

00:47:45.600 anything. I mean, I'm investigating Brigitte Macron and Israeli blackmail comes up in

00:47:50.200 Morocco, Israeli blackmail comes up.

00:47:51.960 And so to pretend that we don't know that Israel is involved in blackmail operations is

00:47:55.900 foolish.

00:47:56.760 And again, all countries are probably involved in them.

00:47:58.860 There are. And I think that they have been like the they have gotten it down to a science.

00:48:02.660 And there's no question in my mind that like sexual blackmail is what Jeffrey Epstein was

00:48:07.180 involved in. And I don't know if that means these people don't know when they go to these

00:48:12.380 parties of the girls are underage. And then it's like, ha ha, we've got you on tape, whatever

00:48:15.780 it is. And we can even taking a look at the Diddy case, you know, blackmail, these little

00:48:20.440 black, these blackmail, powerful blackmail operations are definitely operating.

00:48:24.780 And that's actual blackmail.

00:48:26.420 It's true blackmail. I mean, if you have hidden cameras and you're capturing people

00:48:29.660 doing drugs and sleeping with underage people.

00:48:31.800 So I think it's these are these are blackmail operations.

00:48:34.080 I think they've been going on for decades in America.

00:48:36.340 I think it was Jeffrey Sachs who spoke really well about that, the history of that on

00:48:41.200 Tucker Carlson show. And he's Jewish. And that's what I hate about it. It's trying to

00:48:45.240 make Jewish Americans think that they have to defend the country is so ridiculous. I am

00:48:48.980 not required to if my family goes back to Uganda, I'm not required to defend Uganda as a state.

00:48:54.240 I'm sorry. I'm an American. And I think what you're doing is wrong. If it doesn't doesn't

00:48:59.080 really matter, you know, and you're right to say that it's sort of this circumstance where

00:49:04.160 everybody knows something is going on and they think they're just going to keep gaslighting

00:49:07.940 us. It's so weird. Like they're just going to go. Nothing's going on. Nothing. There's

00:49:12.060 just every day. Some everybody woke up one day and decided to be Hitler. Like that's

00:49:16.000 what the media is basically accusing us of for like noticing a lot of dead people, like

00:49:19.220 a lot of dead women and children. And that's failing. And by the way, I think that is the

00:49:22.640 reason I don't I don't regret them doing that because it's the reason why podcasts like

00:49:27.840 the mainstream media, you know, this like effort to just keep smearing libeling people for

00:49:32.080 noticing basic human things. And I don't regret it because I think it's the reason

00:49:36.240 that trust with them has been fractured. I'm grateful that people no longer believe

00:49:40.200 them. I'm grateful that now people are going to independent podcasts. And when we go on

00:49:43.600 Spotify, you see like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens. That means that for holding on to just

00:49:49.540 like basic human values and being willing to talk about issues in a way and not pretend that

00:49:54.520 your audiences are stupid and not seeing what you're we've we've earned their trust, you

00:49:59.560 know, and I don't want to I don't want to fumble that ball. Like I want to always say even

00:50:03.080 if I don't know something and sometimes I don't I can't speak on it, that I don't know

00:50:06.680 everything, but I'm willing to find out before I speak on it or at least have the conversation

00:50:10.720 and not treat you like you're an idiot. And I'm like the authority.

00:50:14.080 Yeah, I just can't learn at a fast rate. That's one of my biggest issues. I think

00:50:18.000 speaking about Epstein, right? How do you

00:50:20.980 how do you know he's not just a Jewish guy who is doing who is being perverted or whatever,

00:50:28.520 and that he was doing business like there's no real connection that he works for Israel

00:50:33.060 though? Well, he had passports. Yeah. So and then it's also his ties to Ghislaine Maxwell,

00:50:38.460 Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, the whole Mossad attended his funeral. He died in very

00:50:43.940 weird circumstances. It I don't think even people who are pro Zionist would deny that he was

00:50:52.580 obviously Israeli American intelligence. And he had weird passports. I mean, they had like a Saudi

00:50:58.700 Arabian passport and Israeli passport and American passport. Oh, he's perving that. And yeah, and

00:51:03.200 under different names, by the way, he had working passports of these different countries with

00:51:07.920 different names. You can't just get that. You can't just get these passports without being

00:51:14.280 connected to the intelligence services. And it was never made clear why he was so rich. So who was

00:51:19.080 giving him all that money? Was this like black ops, our tax dollars going to give him this illusion of

00:51:23.480 wealth and power so that he would party with all these billionaires? And yes, you're right. Black

00:51:27.820 male operations happen all across the world. I think America, in terms of just how America has

00:51:32.040 been seized, that's the only explanation for how Israel is able to expand with such a small

00:51:37.540 population. And like, you know, somebody has to be fighting their wars. Somebody has to be funding

00:51:42.240 them. We're funding them. So I think we've just become like the piggy bank to them.

00:51:45.800 But if that's the case, what is the cross relationship? Because yeah, I mean, I think

00:51:51.580 the Middle East is historically a place that's not super chill, you know? So that's probably

00:51:58.200 what a lot of people would say is like, oh, well, you need an ally there, right?

00:52:01.760 Which is so stupid. I hate when people just say stuff. Like one of my things that I always

00:52:05.560 It's a strong theory, though.

00:52:06.940 But it's not. It's just people just say things that are said all the time. Why the hell do we

00:52:10.940 have any business in the Middle East at all? Like, why are you just trying to tell me that

00:52:13.640 like, I need an ally? And I actually don't. I don't. I don't. Like, why are we involved

00:52:18.360 constantly in Middle East drama? Again, this is one of the things that we've just been programmed

00:52:22.700 since childhood to think that like, we need to be because why are we in Afghanistan? Okay,

00:52:27.160 let's say they actually let's say the Taliban is terribly corrupt, and they're making women

00:52:31.780 where that's I would like to mind my business, you know what I mean? And right. So there's this

00:52:37.020 idea of international expansionism, international liberalism, everybody must think like us live

00:52:41.320 like us. Really, like, I'm good if they don't, actually. I'm cool if like Russia wants to decide

00:52:47.200 how Russia lives. And if yeah, I agree with Pakistan wants to decide how Pakistan lives. And why do why

00:52:52.920 are we so nosy? I actually just you know, we're like next door neighbors. Never once have I thought

00:52:57.640 about how you live. I've never like when I got here. I was like, No, I've never thought, well,

00:53:01.480 I really think that the morals in my house are so good. I just need to go next door and force

00:53:06.200 Theo Vaughn to live like I live. And this is what time I wake up, I wake up at 530. He should get up

00:53:11.060 at 530. And he should organize, you know, the clothes like I just don't I kind of like to mind

00:53:15.620 my business like a little bit, if that's possible, if America could employ that foreign policy for a

00:53:20.060 bit, be great. I agree with that. That's how exactly how I feel. But I do think that we're so

00:53:26.080 fucked in the Middle East, because we've started so much, you know, we've been just as bad as any

00:53:34.200 other country as about causing trouble in places, you know, and for whose benefit?

00:53:40.200 Who has benefited from that? All of the stuff we did in the Middle East, who's benefited from that?

00:53:43.480 The answer is Israel. Okay, we have not America has not benefited from any of these wars.

00:53:47.500 Why did we just have all of these? Well, if we've been daughters and sons dying in the Middle East.

00:53:53.780 Is America safer country? Our borders are wide open. Are we a cleaner country than before we got into

00:53:57.820 these wars? Are we like, do you remember the glory days? Were you alive in the 90s? Things were so chill in

00:54:02.340 the 90s. I feel like I always go back to that. I'm like, I swear in the 90s, everybody was chill.

00:54:07.080 We're happy. We're wearing overalls. We were saving up money for Disney in like those big Poland spring

00:54:12.480 bottles. Like at least I was, we were in my house. And then I just feel like September 11th happened

00:54:17.100 and we just could not stop being involved in stuff. And we were told that it was because it was going

00:54:22.240 to make us safer. And it didn't make us safer. All I know, I don't feel safer when I have to just like

00:54:27.220 strip dance at every airport. We used to not have to do that as an American. We should just get on

00:54:31.680 the plane. Isn't it unbelievable? And they never found anybody with a shoe bomb. It was just this

00:54:36.720 illusion of Middle Eastern terrorism that made us give up all of our rights. Things used to be

00:54:41.360 cleaner. The streets used to be cleaner. There wasn't America before we decided to get involved in

00:54:45.480 everybody's business. But you can't blame that all on Israel though, I don't think. Well, I'm saying

00:54:49.020 that I'm talking now about our Middle Eastern policy. Right. Well, yeah, I think we've created so much

00:54:52.960 carnage over there that now you have children who hate America. You have places that

00:54:56.920 hate America. And the sad part I agree with you on is that, yeah, the human, regular American people

00:55:04.620 are the ones that have to sign up for the military because they, either it's tradition in their family

00:55:09.440 or they want to support their country or they don't have a choice because they're going to have to go to

00:55:14.000 jail, different reasons. But they're the ones who have to actually go in and die and be the pawns of

00:55:20.920 these sick governments. Right. And I do think, or these strategic governments, like that's the thing.

00:55:26.360 I don't know sometimes if things, if the, if the governments are, if some of the international

00:55:31.180 politics, I don't have a, an understanding of international politics. I mean, I have ways that

00:55:35.420 I feel, but I don't have a strong information well, but I do think that, um, it's sad that it's the,

00:55:42.900 it's the, the, the, the regular just voter that has to go and put their life on the line.

00:55:49.420 Right. It's the very same people that the mainstream media calls racist, sexist, homophobic

00:55:53.380 and anti-Semitic. And then the price you get to pay for that is that you get to sign up and fight

00:55:57.780 the wars so that those little elitists can write their articles about you. Like I, I literally said

00:56:02.640 no one should sign up. Like when we, under the Biden regime, I'm like, I would never send my kids to

00:56:06.280 fight in a war for a foreign nation when this is a condition of ours. The whole idea of signing up for

00:56:11.480 the military is supposed to be defending the homeland. Okay. Now we're defending Ukraine's borders and

00:56:15.480 again, using the same weird argument. That whole Ukraine thing is unbelievable. But it's a laundromat.

00:56:19.660 What are we even doing? It's a laundromat. Look into it historically. Zelensky is a puppet,

00:56:23.800 you know, that's being, and the use of that was we were running money through Ukraine. They can't

00:56:28.420 account for the billions of dollars that we sent to Ukraine. It's getting, it's a laundromat and

00:56:32.120 it's just being sent back to the same elites while the American people suffer. Now that part,

00:56:35.880 I totally agree. I mean, we can't, we can't account for anything. I mean, no, but it's a laundromat.

00:56:40.660 This is money laundering. And this is what I mean when I say. Oh, it feels like that for sure. Like you just don't

00:56:44.600 really know what's going on. And they shame you. We can't trust our, but who shames you?

00:56:49.740 The mainstream media for not supporting it, you know, and that they shame you. They call you

00:56:53.380 the isolationist. You don't want to get involved in Ukraine. You're an isolationist. I'm like dope.

00:56:58.160 Love it. Can I get it on a t-shirt? Isolationist. You're, you don't, you don't want big pharma to

00:57:02.640 have more power. You're an anti vet. Cool. Anti, whatever you need to call me, put it on a t-shirt.

00:57:07.340 And that's what I hope that people get from me when they watch my podcast. And people know that

00:57:12.360 this is just high school name calling. Okay. A bunch of dweebs are down in DC. People that you

00:57:17.600 would have probably never even freaking hung out with. Okay. And they're telling you how you're

00:57:22.260 going to live and how you're going to work for them. That's stuff they would never have the courage

00:57:24.980 to do. You love the war so much. Neocons, the conservative side, put your kids in the war.

00:57:30.060 You love it so much. You love Israel. So go fight for Israel, dude. There's no rules here. Pick up and go

00:57:35.020 right. The pedophiles can go. I'm sure you can go. And it's not that instead they should have to get out

00:57:40.760 there on the front lines, I think. That's a perfect solution that I would get behind. All

00:57:44.720 of them. Every single one of them. And so, yeah, that'd be great. Put them all in helmets. And I'm

00:57:49.840 just so sick of people who live in- No helmets. No helmets. No helmets. I'm going to say that. I love

00:57:55.480 that. Yeah. And so I'm just so sick of people. And then they look down and who are the first to sign

00:57:59.940 up? Oh, the good old boys. People down here in Tennessee, Alabama, right? And they hate you. They hate

00:58:05.700 you the most, right? They hate a white American straight male is like the number one person

00:58:12.060 that they want to just like annihilate, like every sense of America.

00:58:15.980 Well, I felt, yeah. I mean, I will say that I definitely felt like, yeah, I felt like during

00:58:23.140 like the past eight or 10 years of mainstream media, yeah, like you were the one that got

00:58:28.380 picked up, picked up, picked on. Like people where I was from were the ones that kind of felt

00:58:33.300 like it got picked on by late night hosts. You know, you were the only person that was

00:58:38.420 left to make fun of was white men, right? It was the only person. So it was just like

00:58:43.460 all your fault. I hated that shit, you know? Cause I don't even identify with a lot of like

00:58:47.540 your redneck or your maggots. Like I don't identify with any of that. It's like, don't tell me

00:58:52.160 who I am also. Like I didn't like that shit. But yeah, but that, that should, they should

00:58:56.140 be angry about that. So you, you realize this is it's those people that are writing the articles

00:59:00.040 that hate you who will be the first one to tell you to sign up to go fight the wars that enriches

00:59:04.360 them. It's a nonsense. Like who cares? Call, call someone a redneck. Can I get it on a t-shirt?

00:59:09.580 Like who cares? Stop this cycle of abuse. And they're, and that's always what they try to do is

00:59:14.500 they try to, well, you're ignorant. I sip my, uh, is it chai, chai latte in New York city. I've

00:59:21.740 never, I know nothing. These people who lecture you about the environment and lecture you about,

00:59:27.800 you know, what we're so educated. We write these articles about like green new, whatever

00:59:32.200 it is, have never been in the environment, man. Like they're, they're in like a concrete

00:59:35.660 jungle. They would die. They would literally die if electricity went out for longer than

00:59:40.360 a week. Okay. They don't know how to, they make fun of people who hunt, who want to survive.

00:59:44.180 And then when there's something that they want to accomplish overseas, they want you, you

00:59:47.560 to go die. And so I just want Americans to wake up to that, to wake up to that and to realize

00:59:51.680 it's left and right. And when we are just screaming at each other and you don't recognize

00:59:55.480 that there is this power apparatus that sits in the middle and that they will always use

01:00:01.400 you and use your emotion and use words like racism and sexism and antisemitism, that should

01:00:05.880 be the first red flag. When you hear someone not making an argument, but calling someone

01:00:10.260 a name, what you have behind that is a fleet of nerds that are trying to socially engineer

01:00:15.840 you to go do something for them. And they would never do it for you.

01:00:20.420 Yeah. I mean, there's some stuff in there that's probably fact check or whatever, but I don't

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01:03:04.480 slash PPV. That's ESPNPLUS.com slash PPV. So you connect a lot of dots between

01:03:14.000 like Israel and media, right? Or, but do you think that it's just capitalism? Like, don't you think a

01:03:21.320 lot of times it's just like, it's just business. And that's how business works is that they're,

01:03:28.000 you know, like it's one of the side effects of capitalism.

01:03:31.620 If that were the case. So the reason why this is different is because Israel is actually the

01:03:35.100 exception. They are the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans. Like everyone else has to

01:03:40.400 register as a foreign agent under, under Farah.

01:03:44.680 Like with APAC or whatever?

01:03:46.120 Yeah. So APAC, the backstory, by the way, before JFK got shot, he was fighting APAC. They were

01:03:52.020 previously called, I'm blanking on this. It was, you can look it up. And he was literally saying,

01:03:57.300 you have to register under the Foreign Act.

01:03:58.960 Is that true? Let's look it up.

01:03:59.980 A thousand percent true. And you should look it up. We should fact check that live.

01:04:03.580 He was fighting with what is today known as APAC, ah, as was renamed AZCPA. I don't know what that

01:04:10.100 stood for. In 1959, AZCPA was renamed the A, uh, was renamed APAC and American Israel Public

01:04:16.300 Affairs Committee, reflecting a broader membership and mission.

01:04:19.020 Yeah. So JFK told them that they had to register under Farah. Um, and so American Zionist

01:04:26.000 Council, that's exactly what it was called.

01:04:29.280 Okay. American Zionist Council was opposed to a lobby in the United States founded in 1949.

01:04:33.660 It represented nine nationwide Zionist organizations in matters related.

01:04:38.220 See at the bottom there in 1962, president, look at the last paragraph. In 1962, yeah.

01:04:43.320 In 1962, President John F. Kennedy and his brother Bobby, as a U.S. Attorney General,

01:04:46.820 forced the AZC to register as a foreign agent. In doing so, they were barred from making monetary

01:04:52.120 contributions to U.S. officials. Who was barred? AZC?

01:04:54.940 Yeah. So APAC, for lack of a better term, they were called AZC back then, but continued to send out

01:04:59.420 newsletters and hold events with, with a nonprofit tax exemption. And then what happened was he was shot.

01:05:06.220 So he, he literally, like they were writing him letters. You can find this. This is all like,

01:05:10.020 this is available information. Um, and he was like, you need to register, you need to register,

01:05:14.020 you need to register. And then we told you to register. Why are you not registering? This

01:05:17.920 makes no sense. And then he, APAC got lucky because he got shot and killed.

01:05:23.320 But also you could like,

01:05:24.680 so they are the only, the reason why I'm bringing this up is not to further conspiracy theories.

01:05:28.480 They're the only country that's allowed to, to, to lobby Americans not, that do not,

01:05:33.480 are not registered under the FAR Act. And so when you see these people,

01:05:36.480 Under the what act?

01:05:37.080 FAR. So that's like, if you're a foreign agent, you have to basically register,

01:05:41.680 your communications are monitored, all of this stuff. But for whatever reason, Israel is an

01:05:45.760 exception to this. And the reason is because JFK got shot because otherwise they would have been

01:05:49.920 under this. So that is the reason that they're allowed to do this. And so, um, you know, when

01:05:55.280 this, and, and then of course we're not allowed to read the files, but leading up to his death,

01:05:59.360 he was having arguments with the prime minister, uh, Ben Garion. That's a fact. Another fact. He

01:06:04.260 was having heated arguments with Ben Garion. And then the problem, yeah, look it up. JFK

01:06:10.060 The Foreign Agents Registration Act is a U.S. law that requires people in the entities working on

01:06:14.740 behalf of foreign governments to register with the Department of Judges.

01:06:17.040 Mm-hmm. So it drives me insane to see these absolute frauds. Like when they go, when they

01:06:20.760 go, oh, Russia spent a million, like, or like whatever they said. I remember they came out

01:06:25.260 for like Lauren Chen and they're like, there are this idea that Russia spent money and they'll

01:06:29.520 say something like $26,000 or they spent $3 million, like, you know, and influenced the

01:06:34.520 election. And all of these people will be taking money from AIPAC. They're like, oh, well,

01:06:37.820 AIPAC got lucky. Well, JFK got shots.

01:06:40.220 But wasn't the Russia story just, it was, that, that was figured out to be a facade.

01:06:44.060 Right. But so when you, but when you hear these people in your government saying this,

01:06:47.160 you should know how fraudulent they are because they all are taking money from Israel. And so

01:06:50.900 it's like, yes, are Israel doing it legally because a president got shot? Sure. But it's

01:06:55.520 wrong. There should, a country should not be able to lobby to get what they want and control

01:07:00.340 our congressmen. And you get to see them flex that muscle like TikTok and things of nature

01:07:05.600 when they, when they are now interfering with our speech and they'll get laws passed really

01:07:09.020 quickly. It allows a literally a foreign country to make decisions in our, in our nation. Lobbying

01:07:15.660 should just not be allowed full stop. So instead they go, oh, well, you're focusing on it because

01:07:18.860 they're Jewish. No, you're just the only country that's allowed to do it. I would feel the same

01:07:21.640 way if China, if there was a Chinese lobby. Is China allowed to do it? No, there's no other

01:07:26.060 country that's allowed to do this but Israel. Only AIPAC. There's no other country that is,

01:07:29.880 everyone else has to register under the FARA Act and that changes things significantly.

01:07:34.260 AIPAC is the only, you know, American Israel PAC, whatever it is, that's allowed to spend

01:07:39.580 a hundred million dollars in our elections and not be called names. Like if, if, can you

01:07:43.300 imagine if Russia spent a hundred million dollars in our elections? If there was like a, a Russia

01:07:47.120 PAC or a Chinese PAC and they were just allowed to spend that kind of money to lobby and pay

01:07:51.720 our politicians to say things and to believe in things. And that should make people angry.

01:07:57.100 Like that should make people angry. Irrespective, like I said, it could be any country.

01:08:00.100 Unless, right. I, I agree with you that, that, that it's amazing.

01:08:04.000 Or let them all do it.

01:08:05.120 Right. If like America is owned by Israel or something or part ownership or whatever,

01:08:09.000 just tell us that.

01:08:09.980 Right. Well, they don't want to.

01:08:11.600 Like that's a weird thing I don't understand. Like wouldn't, wouldn't.

01:08:13.500 Because then you wouldn't sign up for wars. You wouldn't, you would start to question

01:08:16.680 things in a different way. And so it becomes important, important for the government to keep

01:08:22.580 Americans ignorant of how Congress works, what's going on, so that they believe their

01:08:27.900 Congress from when they go on a rant and say, Israel's our friend and ally. And they don't

01:08:31.660 know how to just very easily look up and see whether this guy's taking money or when someone

01:08:35.520 says this vaccine is going to save your life. And they don't know, you know, what's happened

01:08:40.100 with the CDC or they don't, people don't even have basic civics understanding, but that's

01:08:44.780 by design. If, and this is something that my former colleague, Matt Walsh said, and he's

01:08:49.220 so right. Go back and read the letters that were written during the civil war from like

01:08:55.900 poor kid from Tennessee, Alabama, Louisiana, writing to his mom with no formal education.

01:09:02.340 And it sounds like poetry. They were so educated. The 17 year olds, I'm talking 17, eight year

01:09:08.920 olds, like talking about how they missed their mothers and that you read these old letters

01:09:11.700 and you're like, Americans were so educated. There's been an intentional effort to make

01:09:15.900 Americans dumber and dumber and dumber about their own processes because then it allows for

01:09:20.240 the gaslighting media to come in and sort of make, I mean, you have people now, you look

01:09:24.780 at the, we are factually speaking, getting dumber and dumber every decade. And they fashioned

01:09:29.520 this with the department of education, which is now they're going after that too, which is great.

01:09:33.240 Trump is saying like, no more, but you federalized education. And there was a reason for that because

01:09:38.240 now they can keep you focused on learning about emotional things. Well, we want you to learn

01:09:42.440 about race. We want you to learn about sex. It's very important that we learn about trans

01:09:46.500 rights. And so this is where I think the left and the right get, we're fighting over stuff

01:09:51.000 that's so irrelevant, right? Yeah. A lot of times it's just like, everybody's fighting over

01:09:54.460 bullshit. Um, that doesn't super matter. It does matter, but really to sometimes just like

01:10:00.160 select small groups, we get these political kick balls that get kicked around back and forth. And

01:10:05.020 they're the biggest things in the whole world. Um, BLM and like the bathrooms, like, you know,

01:10:10.380 uh, bathrooms, like, like, I'm just saying, I'm not saying that trans people don't need a place

01:10:14.760 to urinate. Um, everybody does, but I'm just saying, it seems like there's ways to figure it out.

01:10:19.460 I'm from a community where if somebody attacked a gay person or a trans person, you would fuck

01:10:24.100 those people up. Right? Like, that's just where I'm from. Um, but, and also, by the way, we had

01:10:28.880 already solved that. Like everywhere in the world, it just used to just say bathroom. And we knew

01:10:32.640 that that meant anybody could use it. Do you remember this? And now it's like this issue where

01:10:35.720 they're now writing signs that are like, any person can go here. And I'm like, have you never

01:10:39.100 been on a plane? Do you? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody just goes in the same bathroom. So it's, it's

01:10:44.980 going on. That's how it used to be. But then people bring it, but then there's always some

01:10:48.800 lurker, some little slurper running around in and out of there, putting on a boat tire

01:10:54.040 or whatever. There's always some little fricking sniff God running his nostril up in there trying

01:10:59.080 to get a huff of something young, you know? And that's where it gets a little bit dicey,

01:11:03.080 you know? Like at the airport, sometimes when it's a unisex bathroom, you'll see, like,

01:11:07.360 I've seen like a pair of young girls walk in and then a guy walk in. It seems not cool.

01:11:12.060 Well, I don't mean the big ones. I just mean like when they had the independent, like

01:11:14.820 the independent stalls, which it just allows like a family bathroom. You just go in like

01:11:18.120 one person at a time. Yeah. I'll use the family stall. I use the, I use the one at the airport

01:11:22.320 and the secret wall just says family or whatever on it. It's always cleaner. I used to go in

01:11:25.960 there and smoke. I'm going to report you. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. No, it's okay. It's fine.

01:11:31.500 But obviously you like, you're, you, you're in a conspiracy theories. I'm just into the

01:11:38.100 truth. And as soon as you start following the truth, they call you a conspiracy theorist.

01:11:41.620 But like I said, I'm comfortable with it. I literally sell stuff that says conspiracy

01:11:45.460 theorists. My whole mission is to make people realize dweebs are calling you names and you're,

01:11:50.640 I don't know, like you just got to stand up to them. You called me a conspiracy theorist for

01:11:54.420 talking about vaccines for years and then COVID happened. And suddenly people are all looking at

01:11:58.840 my old series and going, wow, well, if they could lie about COVID, did they lie about other stuff?

01:12:03.080 Yeah, buddy. You're looking at a drug cartel. Yeah. They're going to lie to you. They know some

01:12:06.880 things, you know, I think things start to feel super obvious to a lot of Americans that there's,

01:12:11.660 it's just been that we are being laundered, right? We are the things are, but then you start to,

01:12:19.840 then it gets to a personal level. It's like, do some people even really care? I know there's a part

01:12:24.620 of people inside of their spirit that probably really cares for most people, but then it's like,

01:12:29.300 how do you uncompromise and unaddict yourself from the easy things to want to spurn yourself

01:12:39.360 towards action, right? Well, let me say this. How do you keep like, cause you got anti-Semite of the

01:12:46.920 year or whatever decade or I don't know what it was, but like, like, cause I'm, I don't like what

01:12:54.340 Israel, like their space in Gaza, right? Like that to me is just like, seem super tyrannical.

01:13:01.260 But didn't they just come up with a thing today about the ICC? They can't prosecute Netanyahu.

01:13:06.340 Yeah. Because he runs shit. Is that today? He's like the ultimate grand gangster. He's like,

01:13:11.360 even when they catch him doing the crimes and we created this court for exactly what it did,

01:13:15.240 they said, you can't do this. Then they say, well, just cancel the courts. You imagine being like

01:13:19.620 that much of a worldwide gangster. It's crazy. Right. And I wish they would just say, look,

01:13:24.380 we're still letting everybody be gangsters because that's what I don't like about the media. A lot of

01:13:28.400 times there's this thing. It's like, we all need to look out for each other and we need like, um,

01:13:34.560 climate change and we need to, uh, make sure that everybody has a safe place to urinate and all those

01:13:40.140 things, which, yeah, I think all those things are important or worth discussion. But at the same time,

01:13:45.520 you'll have countries that are still playing this, uh, Fidel Castro type of role. So it's like,

01:13:51.540 why do we keep saying all these little things are important, but you can just say, Hey, we're still

01:13:57.600 in colonial or we're still in the old school days and shit is what it is. So fucking mark off your

01:14:02.920 fence yard and protect your fucking shit because that's what countries are doing. Like that's how

01:14:08.280 they're operating, but they're trying to create ambiance that makes us feel like we can't operate like

01:14:13.940 that. Or you're a bad person. If you do operate like that, they're actually morally pretentious.

01:14:18.120 They're, they're pretending. It's like, Oh, we've, we've just gotten, we're, we're so dignified. We

01:14:21.800 would never do this. Look, if it's the rules of the jungle, it's the rules of the jungle. Let us

01:14:25.200 know. Right. That's it. That's my biggest thing. It's this illusion of we're better. We would never,

01:14:30.240 Oh, because of world war two, you're doing all of it, right? You're violating every single one of

01:14:34.780 these codes that you put into place. And if you're going to do it because I'm big and you're small,

01:14:38.640 then say that. So like the small guys know what's up. It's the rules of the jungle.

01:14:42.840 That's my thing. I just want to know what the rules are. If America is owned by China and Israel

01:14:48.440 and, um, Taiwan, just tell me that. Let me know. Like, cause at a while, at a certain point,

01:14:56.860 you know, if you keep, you know. What you're talking about, by the way, there's a term for,

01:15:02.300 it's called real politicking. Real politicking. Yeah. So I did like a foreign policy paper. It's like,

01:15:07.640 I'd rather know that we're working with cartels in South America because we are right. And like,

01:15:12.180 that's cool. CIA, like whatever. Just, but just like, please stop the pretentious. Oh,

01:15:16.720 you're fake. Oh, yeah. That's the American government. It's the scoffing. We would never,

01:15:21.940 yes, you would. Yes, you have. And yes, you are. And people that know real politicking,

01:15:28.280 let me look at real politicking, um, is the approach of conducting diplomatic or political

01:15:32.560 policies based primarily on considerations of given circumstances and factors rather than strictly

01:15:37.160 following ideological, moral, or ethical premises. Right. And so if they're like, yeah,

01:15:40.700 here's the thing, cartels are getting big in the South. Uh, and so yeah, morally we shouldn't

01:15:44.460 work with the cartels, but also if we let the cartels keep growing and El Chapo keep growing,

01:15:49.580 then you know what, then Mexico could become stronger than us. So we're going to do deals

01:15:52.760 with the cartel. Like that's real politic, right? Or say, yeah, we're part, Israel is a,

01:15:58.020 we are partners to the end and this is how it is. The problem is I think you used to be able to do

01:16:02.940 that, but the news decided to not be the news anymore. It decided to be, um, like not real,

01:16:11.100 you know? Well, because the CIA purchased them, right? And that's a fact. Again, you could pull

01:16:14.780 this up so that we can conspiracy theory. What is Operation Mockingbird? The CIA, after JFK was

01:16:20.340 shot, which is just the fact, look, please look it up because I'm going to sound crazy if you don't

01:16:24.140 look up Operation Mockingbird. Um, but everything happens after JFK gets shot. Uh, but yeah.

01:16:29.620 It's going to work again, but let's look it up. It's fine. No, this is, this is on Wikipedia.

01:16:32.800 So we're not even like, we're not on Reddit feeds here. You know what I mean? Everything

01:16:35.360 I'm showing you is on Wikipedia. So it means like they've admitted it. Operation Mockingbird

01:16:38.400 is an alleged, here we go, program at the United States Central Intelligence Agency that

01:16:43.320 began in the early years of the Cold War, attempted to manipulate domestic American news media

01:16:46.820 organizations for propaganda purposes. And where were they from? 1963, they're at the bottom.

01:16:52.980 So it's just a group of Americans? No, the CIA just paid, paid American journalists to say

01:16:56.600 what they wanted to. Operation Mockingbird, right? So that you and I are taking

01:16:59.600 money from the CIA. This would be the theory. And they're paying us. Yeah, if we're journalists.

01:17:03.660 And so then our job is to be like, gaslight the American people. So if let's say the CIA

01:17:08.640 was involved in shooting JFK, right? Okay. Well, that kind of is what I believe as a conspiracy

01:17:13.540 theorist, but I don't listen to me. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I believe the CIA was involved. And

01:17:17.680 so the next thing you have to do, if the population's freaking out, what's going on? What's going

01:17:21.660 on? Okay. They start putting journalists on payroll and they're supposed to gaslight you and

01:17:25.640 be like, this is a closed case. The matter has been closed. JFK tripped and

01:17:29.480 fell. And that's how he died. And anybody saying anything else is a conspiracy

01:17:33.260 theorist. Also a fun fact, the term conspiracy theorist was created by the CIA. It's literally

01:17:38.140 a gaslighting. It's a word that's used to gaslight you. And so I've fallen in love with

01:17:42.440 going back and learning real history and recognizing that the public school classrooms, which I grew

01:17:47.640 up in, were meant to program me and social engineer me. And so to find like historians,

01:17:52.940 if you want to know why people react the way that they do when Tucker has on like a Daryl

01:17:55.980 Cooper or somebody that's deep in, can tell you more about World War II and more about

01:18:01.900 World War I, whatever it is, is because they are the Mockingbirds, right? They are freaking

01:18:07.160 out because this is now failing. There has never been any indication that Operation Mockingbird

01:18:12.940 has ended. In fact, it is known that Barack Obama reinstituted Project Mockingbird. And so

01:18:19.460 you have to know these things. How do you know that? It's you can look at a Project Mockingbird

01:18:23.160 Obama. But did you write the article that's out there? No, I'm not. They would never let

01:18:27.880 me be an editor. I'm I want anti-Semitic of the year. There's no way they're letting me

01:18:31.300 do anything ever on like anything government stuff. You know, they've they've put me on

01:18:36.480 the ADL list. They've tried to smear and libel me into like a ridiculous way to make it.

01:18:40.280 I mean, they say I'm literally Adolf Hitler. I'm Adolf Hitler. I'm the new I'm the new I'm

01:18:44.760 the second coming. I've read somewhere. Well, at least they casted a black Hitler.

01:18:48.960 I feel like that's cool, right? Like it's good for D.E.I. or whatever. Here's here's

01:18:52.920 my here's my question. I'm so nice. I'm way too pregnant. I need a break. No, you're

01:19:00.500 all right. I just need a break. This is too much for my brain today. But how do you keep

01:19:04.620 how do you keep like how do you keep your Jewish friends but have issues with like Israel

01:19:11.960 and stuff like that? How do you manage that? I haven't not even one Jewish friendship has

01:19:16.020 ended because it's it's very weird. Like the purpose of these advocacy groups.

01:19:21.060 And Jewish agents set this up today, too. I want to know. Yeah. But that's the point.

01:19:24.280 Once you know people, they're not going to fall. You think my I grew up in a very Jewish

01:19:28.780 town. I grew up just outside of New York City. And all my best friends growing up were

01:19:33.100 Jewish, just happened to be the way that it was. And so like you're not going to convince

01:19:36.040 them, these people that like I was at their Rosh Hashanah dinner. Like I know like I know

01:19:39.040 Jewish prayers and the Jewish families that I worked for in New York overnight that

01:19:43.820 Candace turned into Adolf Hitler. Like that actually is being sold. That's a good point.

01:19:48.080 Which is like they're not going to buy that. You know what I mean? So it's stupid. But

01:19:50.800 the other thing is that they haven't yet worked through I think this new generation of smear

01:19:57.020 tactics like the people that are employing it now, people like Barry Weiss, they haven't

01:20:02.180 quite figured out that once people have a platform that's big, like if people are watching

01:20:05.600 your show every single day and I say, actually, Theo Vaughn is an avowed racist. Like he is

01:20:12.080 the second coming of whoever, you know, he just wants slavery back. You're not just condemning

01:20:16.980 Theo Vaughn. You're condemning the millions of people that listen to him and they get mad

01:20:21.580 because they know you're basically they're going to be like, I listen to his show every

01:20:24.520 day. What are you talking about? He says raisins are you like raisins because they're

01:20:30.340 grapes that have been through shit. That's a Theo Vaughn quote.

01:20:32.500 Yeah, I would never do slavery, dude. I can barely I have fucking three employees. I can

01:20:35.900 barely handle these guys.

01:20:36.520 But if I had advocacy groups and tons of money, I could just be like write articles that say

01:20:39.840 Theo Vaughn hates black people. OK, we could do it. But at the end of the day, people that

01:20:43.460 listen to you know better and they get angry and all it does is it breaks them away from

01:20:47.280 trusting the mainstream media more because they are listening to you every day. So I have

01:20:50.640 the confidence in my followers. They know me. They know who I am. I don't hate anybody.

01:20:54.580 I just hate liars and they come in all different shapes and sizes and races and religions.

01:20:58.580 You can find I can you can find you a liar anywhere. Yeah. Well, I do think because there's

01:21:03.280 also a lot of great things that I see like in like a lot of Jewish families. They value

01:21:07.200 education. Right. They invest in their children. Those are like some of the things that they

01:21:11.920 do super well. They work together. Right. Like a lot of Jewish guys that I know they'll

01:21:16.460 connect you with another Jewish guy to work with or something, you know, like they help

01:21:21.100 their group, you know, and that's something I feel like other groups could learn how to do

01:21:25.060 as well. You know, that's something that I think a lot of people. I mean, I was I learned

01:21:28.740 my work ethic I got from two Jewish men. I worked in private equity for four and a half

01:21:33.080 years. Oh, really? Yeah. And that's why I saw. In municipal bonds? Not in municipal bonds.

01:21:37.820 I just got into some. Mm-hmm. It's going pretty. I mean, it is. You know, what do you mean

01:21:42.060 it's going good? It's set. Set percent. Yeah. So but they they pretty much like, you know,

01:21:46.920 you can't live in New York City and hate Jews. They're literally everywhere. But that that's

01:21:51.560 kind of been one of the worst things about the politicizing of this is exactly what you're

01:21:55.020 talking about. My perception of Jewish people is having being someone who grew up in New

01:21:58.740 York that they work hard. They grind. You know, they fight. They love. You can get into an

01:22:03.080 argument with them. They don't take themselves seriously. You can say whatever and then be

01:22:06.620 out to dinner. And to see that the branding of that now like this like victim mentality.

01:22:13.520 I don't recognize this. This like whiny. What do you mean victim mentality? Well, now when

01:22:17.160 when everything's become political, it becomes like the DC version and version. And this is

01:22:20.920 why I also hated the BLM because black people are like very funny, have a good sense of humor.

01:22:25.860 You can always just like make a joke. And that's kind of like that. That's what our culture

01:22:31.340 is. And then BLM turned black people into like victims like racism's everywhere. It's in the

01:22:35.340 way that that person's braiding their hair. It's the form of whatever they're learning in

01:22:39.720 school, weird terms, cultural appropriation. And I'm like, it turns into wimps like this was

01:22:43.640 our cool thing was we were funny and we could take a joke and mock people for being, you know,

01:22:48.480 white, redneck, Chinese. Like that's the cool thing. And when you remove that and then suddenly

01:22:53.840 like it's like hysteria and you're like, I'm a victim and everybody's in it. It's like

01:22:56.660 you're not fun anymore. You suck. And I hate you because you suck, not because of your race,

01:23:00.700 whether you're black, Jewish or white, you know?

01:23:04.100 Yeah. I mean, I think America just has America is just I mean, we still haven't even dealt with.

01:23:09.020 I think the trauma from like the Native Americans that were in our land. I think we still

01:23:12.840 have a lot of like, like repairing to do, you know, I think we're still repairing.

01:23:19.140 We just need more comedians. I don't care about your feelings. I just want to make fun of you.

01:23:22.300 Please. Can we all just make fun of each other? We go back to like, that's what I say, the 90s.

01:23:25.380 Oh, yeah. That shit was great.

01:23:26.680 And Chris Rock was up on stage and he's just making fun of you for every issue you have.

01:23:31.640 And by the time you walk out of there, you're all laughing at each other and you realize that

01:23:36.200 your shit stinks and your dog does poop, ma'am. You know?

01:23:39.340 Do you think? I know. That lady scoffed at me when I fell out of that chair at the inauguration.

01:23:44.900 She's like, oh, oh, like I had fucking like I was a fart that had come out of her.

01:23:52.720 Oh, this gross. This thing from steerage that climbed up here somehow.

01:24:00.220 This thing that would never get in a lifeboat on the Titanic.

01:24:02.720 You know, that kind of fucking. Yeah, when I fell out of that chair at the inauguration,

01:24:07.380 that's what she was doing. What else do I want to ask you about?

01:24:10.780 OK, so you have let's get in. I can't even handle anything else serious right now.

01:24:15.260 You have you have a conspiracy theory about Brigitte Macron, right?

01:24:19.240 Or it's a conspiracy theory. And look, I was I was we were one of the first podcasts

01:24:23.880 that had Bobby Kennedy on because he's a friend of mine. Right.

01:24:26.600 So he came on and he even said, dude, I don't know if I should be on. Right.

01:24:31.560 And then fast forward three years later, five years later.

01:24:35.520 And he is. And now those people are like, Bobby's the fucking man, you know.

01:24:40.460 So I understand like, you know, conspiracy theories and also just being brave to have somebody on.

01:24:46.260 Like I was like, some people might be afraid to have Candace Owens on.

01:24:48.840 I was like, I want to be I don't want anybody telling me that I can or can't talk to somebody

01:24:54.640 like that to me feels really good. Now, I'll I'll I'll admit probably I'm not the best

01:24:59.400 in this conversation of like some of the topics I probably get scared or I don't know enough

01:25:03.900 information. Right. But that's always something that I kind of struggle with.

01:25:08.500 And so sometimes I let things be said where it's like I don't fact check them, but sometimes

01:25:12.240 I just forget, you know, I'm not a fucking wizard either.

01:25:15.280 You know, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. So I work hard at it, though.

01:25:20.200 You fucking better believe that people like, you know what the fuck you're doing.

01:25:23.160 I'm like, yeah, but I'll be there every fucking day.

01:25:26.340 That's exactly who I am. That's why people like you.

01:25:28.340 I never figure it out. I never think you're exceptional at being average, like average

01:25:33.260 meaning like relatable. Oh, that is what you're exceptional at is people feel like they can

01:25:38.540 listen to you and they can understand they can think with you. And I think we've disrupted

01:25:43.020 and I'm putting myself in the same box here. We've disrupted this model of lecturing

01:25:48.020 the listeners that they had going on for years. We are CNN. We know we will tell you what

01:25:53.460 you get luxury, though. No, not on my show. Do you watch my podcast? I've seen your podcast

01:25:57.200 before. No, I'm just having fun.

01:25:59.200 Now, you do come off with a lot of information. Yeah. And you get creative and you get you create

01:26:07.840 like these timelines and stuff. I'm a psycho. I'm a woman, you know, that's between you us

01:26:13.000 to like where I'm a woman. So like it's got to be organized. I got to be like, yeah, like

01:26:16.920 the kids, I got to put their clothes out. And the same thing for my podcast. I'm like, let

01:26:20.760 me tell you what happened. Look at this timeline. Have you faced legal issues? Have you been

01:26:24.480 sued? I have been sued. I have indeed been sued. But have I been beat in a lawsuit? No.

01:26:31.060 And do you do you have to have a lawyer on staff? No, but I have a lawyer that is like

01:26:38.040 he's basically my friend. Like he's just he's become like a brother. You know, like we get

01:26:42.520 all sorts of crazy letters. We got much more threats to be sued in terms of like actual lawsuits.

01:26:47.300 I've only gone to court with two people, you know, one, one of them both. So

01:26:54.500 Yeah, I was just curious. And what about cybersecurity? I noticed that you had this you have this Brigitte

01:27:01.880 Macron, who is the wife of the president of France. His name is Emmanuel Macron. And one

01:27:09.980 thing that's interesting about them is they have an age difference, right? How many years

01:27:12.820 is it? How many years they tell people or how many years is it actually? Wow. That's

01:27:17.520 how it goes. If you haven't watched the series, I mean, there's a reason it's going. I've

01:27:22.260 watched two episodes of the series. It's crazy. It's not like this is wasn't nothing. And

01:27:26.300 I want to be clear. I wasn't the one who I happened upon this because I'm one of these

01:27:29.860 rare birds because I'm nosy that if I see something happening in another country, I will take the

01:27:35.840 time to pick it up in the foreign language and then interpret it into English and to try to

01:27:40.980 read and understand it. And most people just will be like, I don't care. It's happening

01:27:44.360 in France. It's happening in Romania. It's happening wherever. I just make time. I get

01:27:47.860 interested. And so Savannah, who's my manager, remembers the night at the UFC fight where

01:27:53.340 I found the reporting on this. And actually, the way it popped up was like the Daily Mail

01:27:57.400 actually did a piece on Brigitte Macron. It was just funny to me because they were like

01:28:01.360 Emmanuel Macron, you know, angrily denies the rumors. His wife's a man. And he was like,

01:28:06.200 all stressed out and was like, it's not true. It's not true. And I'm like, I was like,

01:28:09.720 what the hell out of France? Like the president has to come out and make a statement on this

01:28:14.180 at all. Well, this is a story that's come up over the years like this is an alleged thing.

01:28:19.240 But what was weird about the Daily Mail piece. But in 10 minutes, can you give me what is

01:28:23.720 going on here? Yeah. So what was weird about the Daily Mail piece is that they didn't debunk

01:28:27.800 what the people were saying. And this should be such an easy thing to debunk. Like if you

01:28:30.560 were like Candace Owens is a man and never grew up, you know, in Stanford, I'd be like yearbook,

01:28:34.640 yearbook, yearbook, yearbook, yearbook. Here's me and my family. It's such an easy thing to debunk.

01:28:38.360 Like, why is this going on for years? And so that's what caught my attention, looked into

01:28:41.460 it. And 1000 percent, she was born a man, lived as a man for 30 years, you know, and

01:28:46.000 then transitioned at some time in the 80s. But are you worried about getting in trouble

01:28:50.320 for slander by saying that? I have welcomed the lawsuit. I mean, Emmanuel Macron sent me

01:28:54.320 a threat before we published and we went back to him. Did he sign it or whatever?

01:28:57.100 It was his lawyers. Oh, it'd be cool if he signed it. And so, yeah, he sent the threat and the

01:29:01.140 way that it works in Tennessee, you know, first and foremost, we have the good old boys

01:29:04.160 here. So I said to him, like, this is not the state to come and try your little

01:29:06.960 hoopsie, floopie, French, Parisian, whatever it is. Like, you know, if you're messing around

01:29:11.880 with kids, this is not the place for you. Secondly, like if...

01:29:15.520 Well, who was messing around with kids? The wife then?

01:29:18.100 Yeah, that's what we're calling him.

01:29:19.560 So Brigitte, you're saying, is a male?

01:29:21.900 Mm-hmm. Biological.

01:29:23.800 Was a male or is a male?

01:29:25.560 Well, you can't really change those things in my world, but lives as a woman, clearly.

01:29:30.040 Okay, lives as a woman now. Yeah, I would have never thought that she was a man.

01:29:32.860 Mm-hmm. And so anyways, the story really is just like, you know, lived as a dude, transitioned,

01:29:38.780 met Emmanuel when he was just 14 years old.

01:29:40.640 Okay, so she was a woman when they met, you're saying?

01:29:44.800 Living as a woman early days, like not doesn't look, hadn't had all like the feminization

01:29:50.080 surgery. I can't even tell you her doctor's name.

01:29:52.320 Oh, you're saying so she was just kind of fresh out the...

01:29:55.280 Growing the hair out, like, yeah, starting to like live as a woman. Yeah.

01:29:59.620 Just like fresh out the Lord and Taylor kind of.

01:30:01.520 Mm-hmm. And he, that was his drama teacher and he was only 14 years old.

01:30:04.740 Is Lord and Taylor a women's store?

01:30:06.080 It's both.

01:30:07.080 It is?

01:30:07.500 I think it's out of business though.

01:30:08.600 It was a bad reference then.

01:30:10.060 Mm-hmm. And so, and then, yeah, she was his drama teacher. He was 14 and...

01:30:14.420 And she was how old?

01:30:15.280 40.

01:30:16.120 Nuh-uh.

01:30:16.660 I swear. That's, and that's like official. Like that's like, they don't, they don't deny

01:30:19.320 that.

01:30:20.680 So wait, so they're, they're, they're, they're 26 year age difference. My parents were 32 years

01:30:26.180 age difference. So I can't really, you know...

01:30:29.100 14 year old?

01:30:29.620 Okay. Well now here, my, my parents didn't meet until my mom was 30.

01:30:34.240 That's my point. It's very different.

01:30:36.160 Okay. So that's interesting.

01:30:37.100 The age difference matters. If you're 30, if you become an adult and you want to whatever,

01:30:40.140 I don't really care. Like if you want to be a 30 year old man, you know, 30 year old

01:30:43.080 woman marrying a 70 year old man, it's not my business. You're both adults. And usually

01:30:46.400 there's some like financial consideration, whatever. But 14 year old boy doesn't...

01:30:50.300 Dowry maybe.

01:30:51.500 Dowry, yeah. But 14 year old boy is just weird. And so the media just kind of tried to sell

01:30:56.520 it. Um, and yeah, I just kind of looked at the story, went through it. There was so much

01:31:00.880 evidence and there was a reason they started locking it. They're like locking up journalists.

01:31:04.340 Like just so you know, they started arresting people. You don't do that. You don't do that

01:31:07.700 because someone's lying. You know what I'm saying?

01:31:09.380 Look that in a separate window, look that up and then bring it up. I'm going to see this

01:31:12.180 in 1993, the age of 39, she met, uh, Brigitte McCrone met the 15 year old Emmanuel McCrone

01:31:17.520 in La Providence High School.

01:31:19.020 And that's a lie. He was 14 when he was in the play because they told the story about

01:31:22.100 what play he was in. So the journalists went back and they were like, he was 14 when he

01:31:25.380 was in his play.

01:31:25.980 Okay.

01:31:26.240 So it was like just little media lies.

01:31:27.440 So one year is about 7% of his life though at that point. So it is, it's a decent amount.

01:31:31.420 And everything sounds romantic when you're reading all this stuff too, where she was a teacher

01:31:35.460 and was student and classmate of her daughter, Brigitte divorced Ozier in 2006 and married

01:31:41.020 McCrone in 2007. Wow. So they really fell into something.

01:31:44.520 In December, 2021, Natasha Ray and Amanda Roy broadcast unsubstantiated rumors online

01:31:51.480 that Brigitte had never existed and that her brother Jean-Michel Chrogneau had changed gender

01:31:56.560 and started using that name. So what does this mean?

01:31:59.180 So what they had done was what they started to do. And I show this in my series is to make

01:32:03.480 the mainstream media convince you that it was all a lie. They were suing people for defamation

01:32:07.980 and winning. And so they were like, obviously it's not true, but they were lying about why they

01:32:12.520 were winning the defamation claim. So they were never winning on the substance. Like you transitioned.

01:32:16.480 They'd wait for someone to make a mistake of like, you know, not Brigitte McCrone as a man,

01:32:20.920 but they said that Brigitte McCrone went to La Providence High School and like, or like, you know,

01:32:25.800 Brigitte McCrone's uncle was this. And then they would go and slap them with a defamation lawsuit

01:32:29.860 and be able to prove that they made a mistake somewhere else. And the press would just lie and

01:32:34.440 pretend that like, well, they would tell you half a truth. Like they did get sued for defamation,

01:32:38.940 but it wasn't regarding whether or not she was a man.

01:32:41.580 But isn't it just love that they love? I mean, so the part you're saying that's so obtuse is

01:32:46.540 the fact that you felt like they were groomed kind of, because if somebody who is a man or woman falls

01:32:51.540 in love with somebody else, that's okay. That's fine. But this wasn't that. And it's also because

01:32:56.780 you can't then misrepresent yourself as like a Catholic, a strong Catholic who's leading a country.

01:33:02.400 People vote for reasons. So if you want to be an open transgendered person who likes 14 year

01:33:06.960 old boys and you decide to run and a country elects you, cool. You know, that's their business.

01:33:12.880 Now, what age did they get married at? They didn't get married when he was a child.

01:33:15.440 No, they got married in 2007.

01:33:17.320 When he was how old?

01:33:19.060 Way older.

01:33:20.560 Well, then that's kind of different.

01:33:21.500 No, but they were together. They were not like-

01:33:22.800 Oh, they were together the whole time.

01:33:23.540 Oh, yeah, yeah. They are basically like, she fell in love and couldn't resist anymore.

01:33:27.320 And then he went to a school and they tried to romanticize it, but there's a lot more that went on here.

01:33:31.140 I mean, there's a ton of people around them that have then been arrested for pedophile crimes.

01:33:34.280 And this is all stuff you're saying?

01:33:35.620 No, it's like these are the- I mean, I only presented the facts because he sent me a legal threat.

01:33:39.900 Okay.

01:33:40.280 Like, don't publish this series sort of a thing.

01:33:42.380 And we went back at him and we said, Mr. Macron, we won't publish a single episode if you just answer this question.

01:33:49.740 You know, and we gave him 21 yes or no questions.

01:33:52.800 The first one was Brigitte Macron born a biological male.

01:33:58.420 They came back and refused to answer.

01:33:59.920 They said they don't owe you an answer.

01:34:01.340 Now, that's stupid.

01:34:01.880 If you're going to tell me if this is causing you so much distress and defamation, of course, the laws are if somebody tries to get the true answer from you, you can't sue for defamation.

01:34:10.660 That's how it works in America.

01:34:12.260 And so-

01:34:12.940 But I could see somebody being like, oh, this is so problematic.

01:34:15.180 But if I engage with it, it becomes even more problematic.

01:34:17.300 But if you're sending a 100-page letter, honey, you're already engaging.

01:34:20.080 Right?

01:34:20.300 So they sent me a letter first.

01:34:21.760 So it's ridiculous.

01:34:22.680 And then they said, like, you know, emotional distress, all this stuff.

01:34:25.500 Well, we said, okay, let's end this.

01:34:26.780 We're not interested in conspiracy theories.

01:34:28.880 We'll end this.

01:34:29.660 You tell us, did Brigitte Macron live as a man named Jean-Michel Trogg?

01:34:32.660 No.

01:34:33.040 Yes or no.

01:34:34.060 They refused to answer.

01:34:35.440 You know, I'm like, okay, so what is it?

01:34:37.400 You can't have it both ways.

01:34:38.540 If you want this to come to an end, I have the platform to end that.

01:34:41.160 I will say we looked into the story.

01:34:43.120 Here are the responses we got.

01:34:44.300 Would you do that, you think?

01:34:45.480 Of course I would have done that.

01:34:46.960 It doesn't, like, help my platform to be caught in a lie.

01:34:49.900 Right.

01:34:50.320 Then people will lose trust in me.

01:34:51.700 You know what I'm saying?

01:34:52.500 So if they find out that I knowingly lied and she wrote and said, you know, no, I never

01:34:57.020 lived as this person, whatever, that would reflect poorly on me.

01:34:59.960 Right.

01:35:00.380 You know?

01:35:00.920 Yeah, I can't tell if I think, like, would I, if that happened, would you engage or would

01:35:04.820 you not engage?

01:35:05.540 What would you do there?

01:35:06.860 Because it has to be, I mean, it's such a murder mystery kind of thing, you know, like

01:35:11.840 a-

01:35:12.220 Series is fun.

01:35:13.320 God, it's very, and since it's French, they have all the,

01:35:16.480 stuff you can't pronounce that good.

01:35:18.380 I can't pronounce any of it.

01:35:20.000 Oh, I love that shit, dude.

01:35:22.080 And now I'm doing the Harvey series, which is going to, people are going to go crazy.

01:35:25.840 But now, you had a series, though, that also was about, it was about Kamala Harris's-

01:35:34.680 Genealogy.

01:35:35.440 Genealogy.

01:35:36.160 How did that end?

01:35:37.340 Because your, the theory was what?

01:35:40.060 Oh, she's just not black.

01:35:41.140 The whole series started by accident.

01:35:42.820 She just like, like, when I say she, I'm at the mainstream media, just came for Janet

01:35:46.200 Jackson, and you can't come for the Jackson family.

01:35:48.680 Yeah.

01:35:48.860 You know, like, I grew up in a black household.

01:35:50.260 You kind of look like a Jackson a little.

01:35:51.960 Thank you.

01:35:52.700 Oh my gosh, thank you.

01:35:54.400 Stop.

01:35:54.740 Shake it, shake it, babe.

01:35:55.640 Stop.

01:35:56.700 God, it would be good.

01:35:58.080 Wow.

01:35:58.480 I'm just going to eat up.

01:35:59.240 I'm just going to, that compliment, I'm just going to let that hit.

01:36:02.040 Yeah.

01:36:02.560 Thank you.

01:36:02.720 That'd be awesome.

01:36:04.260 Candace Owens investigates Kamala Harris's claims about her black heritage, particularly focusing on a photograph

01:36:08.620 Harris shared in her book, where she posed with a woman Harris said was her grandmother.

01:36:11.840 It was not her grandmother.

01:36:13.520 It was not.

01:36:13.920 And you found that out for true?

01:36:14.940 Yeah.

01:36:15.360 We ended up finding, I just knew.

01:36:17.180 And it was just like a vibe.

01:36:18.580 Like, I see some of these things you just know.

01:36:20.500 Like, you just, you can't explain it.

01:36:21.880 Like, when you're black, you just know certain things.

01:36:25.160 You know, like a fisherman, sees another fisherman in the wild sort of a thing.

01:36:28.780 Oh, yeah.

01:36:29.180 Black people can tell if you're not black.

01:36:30.860 Yeah.

01:36:31.240 We just kind of know.

01:36:32.060 Except for Mack McClung, who won three slam dunk titles in a row, dude.

01:36:36.040 Who did?

01:36:36.500 So, Mack McClung.

01:36:38.460 Who's that?

01:36:38.740 And he's just the, he's the slam dunk champion.

01:36:41.340 I mean, he's won the three dunk competitions in a row in the NBA.

01:36:44.840 And you can't tell what?

01:36:46.300 I'm just saying, usually you can tell if a guy's culturally appropriating or not.

01:36:51.080 Right.

01:36:51.540 But this dude is just, he just has it.

01:36:54.240 Is he black?

01:36:55.020 Nope.

01:36:55.440 Oh, I thought you were saying he's actually black.

01:36:57.640 But he could be drinking black blood or something.

01:36:59.480 I have no idea.

01:37:00.060 He's obviously drinking black blood.

01:37:02.280 I think we can go ahead and say that.

01:37:04.540 He's got more bunnies in the zoo, dude.

01:37:06.380 That guy is just crazy.

01:37:07.500 Okay.

01:37:07.860 But go back.

01:37:08.700 So.

01:37:08.900 Yeah.

01:37:09.100 So the Kamala Chronicles just happened by accident.

01:37:10.840 Cause I was like, there's nothing about her that just signals to me that she's black.

01:37:13.600 And she was kind of running on being black.

01:37:15.400 And then we started our series and she dropped it.

01:37:17.480 She would not say she was black again.

01:37:19.460 She would not answer.

01:37:20.320 Oh yeah.

01:37:20.860 She never said it again.

01:37:21.760 Never called herself the first black nothing.

01:37:24.180 They stopped it immediately.

01:37:25.140 Cause they, I just realized they like come up with these books and people just don't

01:37:28.860 ever actually prod the narrative.

01:37:30.820 And there was a ton of things that weren't making sense.

01:37:32.580 And so we got in touch with her uncle and he was like, nope, that person's not related

01:37:38.940 to me.

01:37:39.520 Nope.

01:37:39.920 He was like, I, it was crazy.

01:37:42.300 I just got, that's me.

01:37:43.820 I get like, I'll get into the weeds.

01:37:45.420 And so what were the fun, what was the final founding on that?

01:37:48.040 Did you come to a conclusion?

01:37:49.700 Yeah, she's, I mean, she's mixed, um, her, but she's not black.

01:37:53.460 And so running as a first black person was just completely crazy.

01:37:56.260 She's not mixed black.

01:37:57.140 Like she's, um, she's no black at all.

01:37:58.960 She's Indian, uh, Indian, Syrian, Jew, and Irish.

01:38:04.340 So she's on black.

01:38:05.440 She's on black.

01:38:06.280 Wow.

01:38:06.740 Yeah.

01:38:06.920 And she was running on like a black thing.

01:38:08.680 That's what you're saying.

01:38:09.320 Huh?

01:38:10.040 And it's tough because you don't, you can't see if somebody, I mean, I guess they should

01:38:13.720 have like a black database or something, but I don't even, how much would that cost?

01:38:17.100 We just know.

01:38:18.020 Yeah.

01:38:18.320 We just know.

01:38:18.820 And maybe as a black person, you do just know.

01:38:21.140 Yeah.

01:38:21.580 And these are series, right?

01:38:22.700 You have one about Kamala, one about Brigitte.

01:38:25.620 And now the one that we're doing is the Harvey Weinstein files.

01:38:28.980 Harvey Weinstein files.

01:38:29.820 And did he, somebody said that he emailed you from prison or something?

01:38:32.780 No, it actually started, there was a random woman who had reached out to me and basically

01:38:37.380 said, you know, you're the only person that I think that would actually look into this

01:38:40.820 case beyond the media.

01:38:42.400 And I'll be honest, like when I, when they first contacted me, I was like convinced he

01:38:45.560 was guilty.

01:38:46.380 Cause like how could, there was just so many people that were saying that he did this or

01:38:49.820 that.

01:38:50.060 And I'm like, someone somewhere has to be telling the truth.

01:38:52.000 And then when I got into the actual, after speaking to him, which was like a crazy conversation.

01:38:57.180 You spoke to Harvey?

01:38:58.180 Yeah.

01:38:58.540 I've been speaking to Harvey for years now.

01:39:00.280 And, um, it was a crazy conversation because there was no reason we have nothing in common.

01:39:04.540 Like Harvey first and foremost is like the number one donor to the ADL.

01:39:07.920 I'm like on their list.

01:39:09.280 Like, um, he's huge democratic donor.

01:39:12.900 I'm Republican.

01:39:13.480 And so, and he's still all of those things, which is like when we had our first conversation,

01:39:17.980 he was just sort of like, who are you?

01:39:20.620 Like, why do you exist?

01:39:21.500 Like, why is someone-

01:39:22.200 Did you reach out to him?

01:39:23.420 No, that person put us on the phone.

01:39:25.040 I guess, I guess she was kind of lobbying him being like, you need to have someone who's

01:39:30.160 an independent journalist look at this case, like, or it's never going to get a fair shake

01:39:33.120 in the media because they have you as like, you know, the devil.

01:39:36.000 So that was like a super interesting conversation and we still have nothing in common.

01:39:40.360 Uh, but I am very good at being nuanced and a lot of people, if you don't like Trump,

01:39:45.940 then you are okay if he's wrongfully convicted.

01:39:48.380 They pick people's character and decide that they're okay with whatever happens to them.

01:39:51.880 And I'm kind of the opposite where I will be very nuanced and say like, Harvey was immoral.

01:39:57.000 Harvey was cheating on his wife.

01:39:58.560 Harvey was abusing his power.

01:40:00.680 Um, as the guy in Hollywood, I do not believe after looking at the case that he has, he has

01:40:06.780 been, um, I do believe that he's wrongfully convicted.

01:40:09.320 And so it actually, as I was looking into this, he's, his case in New York got overturned

01:40:14.220 on appeal.

01:40:14.760 And so he's, so it's going to be interesting to see what happens, but he definitely, um,

01:40:20.340 he knows where all the bodies are buried in Hollywood too.

01:40:22.360 So he was an interesting guy to piss off because he was the phone call, you know, he's the,

01:40:26.760 he was the one phone call every A-lister made when they got themselves into trouble too.

01:40:30.040 And they all turned on him because.

01:40:31.520 He was kind of like the closer over there, the Siriano or whatever.

01:40:34.280 And, and when the Me Too movement happened, I think men were scared.

01:40:37.580 So a lot of them turned on him because what other option did you have?

01:40:40.820 They had woman after woman after woman coming out and men could not stand up in that environment

01:40:46.400 when it first happened.

01:40:47.920 And so I think a lot of them turned on him because they just were, it was self basic

01:40:51.460 self-preservation.

01:40:52.520 Oh, I checked my penis in the hospice.

01:40:54.500 I remember it was just a tough time for guys.

01:40:58.160 Yeah.

01:40:58.460 You were afraid to shake dude's hands.

01:40:59.740 I remember that you were afraid to even be like, it was scary and you would try to speak

01:41:04.800 up for friends that you didn't think did something or that you did.

01:41:07.620 And then like, you would just be bastardized online.

01:41:10.540 Like, I remember there was like famous, like, um, celebrities who would like tag me and other

01:41:16.380 friends in tweets and be like, they knew everything, just shit.

01:41:18.940 Like, what are you fucking taught?

01:41:21.340 You're, we do not know, you know, just, but crazy shit.

01:41:25.380 And careers were being ended.

01:41:27.180 Like on a blink of a tweet, she'd be like, he looked at me funny and they would be like,

01:41:32.360 he's no, he stepped down from the corporation today.

01:41:34.960 I'm like over the tweet.

01:41:36.260 What's happening here?

01:41:37.340 It was wild times.

01:41:38.680 I always stood up against the Me Too movement.

01:41:40.360 I was very adamantly against it, vocal against it.

01:41:42.760 And people on the left and the right condemned me for it, for my stance on Me Too.

01:41:46.600 I think the Me Too, I think it was definitely got, everything goes overboard, right?

01:41:51.240 It's out of control.

01:41:52.140 I mean, we need due process.

01:41:53.340 That's like, you can't just tweet something and say, Theoban did this and then he loses

01:41:57.520 everything.

01:41:58.020 You got to actually have due process.

01:41:59.800 Oh, you'd see male animals hitchhiking down 65, like, I got to get out of this town.

01:42:04.000 What do you fucking do?

01:42:05.500 Like, it's just fucking getting hot in the kennel, brother.

01:42:08.220 It was crazy.

01:42:09.400 But yeah, so I think, I think me doing this is because now that everyone's done, you know,

01:42:14.020 snorting the Me Too lines and it's coming down from the high, it's good to be like,

01:42:18.740 hey, so you remember when we were like doing that thing and everyone was just kind of saying

01:42:21.960 everyone was guilty on the basis of an allegation?

01:42:23.620 Let's actually go back and look at one of these cases.

01:42:25.340 And you're looking at Harvey Weinstein case.

01:42:26.920 I believe it is the case.

01:42:28.900 You believe he was innocent.

01:42:29.680 I believe he was wrongfully convicted.

01:42:31.200 I don't want to say Harvey Weinstein is a moral or an innocent man because that sounds

01:42:34.660 like I'm saying he behaved well.

01:42:36.700 And, but there is a difference between being immoral and being a person who abuses their

01:42:41.280 power and being a person who was running the peninsula, like his own personal brothel

01:42:45.300 and being a cold blooded rapist.

01:42:48.140 And so I want to show people what, cause I was shocked opening these documents and text

01:42:52.980 messages and emails and reading what these women were saying after their rapes.

01:42:57.680 And like, you know, there's a certain way that I would speak to my rapist and that is

01:43:01.720 not at all.

01:43:02.540 Right.

01:43:03.340 And so, you know, some of these,

01:43:05.040 And is that a lot of this stuff public domain?

01:43:06.960 No, because the media would not report on it.

01:43:09.140 And it's so similar to what we saw with this like whole Blake Lively thing going on, where

01:43:13.020 once they drop the article, the New York Times removes context.

01:43:16.800 Like it's like, okay, well, if we had had those messages that she sent to Justin Baldoni,

01:43:20.680 people would not have instantly tried to cancel Justin Baldoni because they would have said,

01:43:23.820 oh, this needs context.

01:43:25.020 And now it's time we're now in the era of context.

01:43:27.140 So we need to go backwards and look at that most crucial case because that was the beginning

01:43:30.520 of it all.

01:43:31.220 And he took the fall for the Me Too movement.

01:43:33.180 And he's still a very powerful person.

01:43:35.820 Like it was like, we have gotten into it.

01:43:37.860 Like I'm just like arguing in prison with Harvey Weinstein and you can see who he is and

01:43:43.100 who he was.

01:43:44.420 But I just believe in justice.

01:43:45.720 If I hate you, I will still defend you if I think you're wrongfully convicted.

01:43:48.600 I hated Matt Lauer.

01:43:49.500 And I was like, come on guys, calling him a rapist because he had an affair with his

01:43:52.260 intern.

01:43:53.100 I mean, women are just always so hopeless.

01:43:55.900 Why even hire an intern?

01:43:57.300 Yeah, I know.

01:43:58.460 But the men get powerful.

01:44:00.740 Yeah.

01:44:00.860 That's a joke.

01:44:01.380 I think.

01:44:01.840 Yeah.

01:44:02.180 And that's for men now, though.

01:44:03.400 I mean, like, what is the incentive to hire women after the Me Too era?

01:44:06.540 If we don't go back and course correct, I would be scared.

01:44:08.960 I will say this.

01:44:09.820 As a guy.

01:44:10.160 I was afraid to bring female comics on the road because it was spooky.

01:44:16.720 Yeah.

01:44:17.160 And you'd be like, well, what if.

01:44:18.520 One wrong joke.

01:44:19.620 Right.

01:44:19.920 What if I look at them a certain way?

01:44:21.840 I mean, I'm in, I'm in like, we just did a movie, a friend of mine and I just self-funded

01:44:27.420 our own film and put it together and everything.

01:44:29.280 And so we just got done doing it.

01:44:31.700 And I was like, oh, on set, I was like, oh, I got to be, can't joke around.

01:44:39.900 Got to be careful what you're saying.

01:44:42.100 Or I would yell out, that's a joke, right?

01:44:44.240 If I was, if I said something that I thought might be obtuse, you know?

01:44:47.220 I mean, that's not fun.

01:44:48.820 Like, it's like, we need to go back to being able to like make fun of women.

01:44:51.580 And also, by the way, the end result, women don't like that.

01:44:53.640 We don't like men that are castrated and men that now won't ask women on dates, men that

01:44:57.820 won't hit on women.

01:44:58.840 So we created a whole culture and now women are frustrated by the culture.

01:45:02.160 Everyone's a wimp, you know?

01:45:03.340 Good point.

01:45:03.940 It's like, okay, cool.

01:45:04.920 Ask her out.

01:45:05.500 Tell her she looks nice.

01:45:06.300 And guess what?

01:45:06.840 Girls, you can just say, no, I'm not into you.

01:45:09.260 Like, he can suffer the humiliation of thinking he had a chance.

01:45:12.020 But why are we ruining like natural relations between men and women?

01:45:15.120 Like, it's nice for guys to hold doors, ask you out, make you feel pretty.

01:45:19.340 And yeah, get you a chocolate or something.

01:45:21.120 Yeah, yeah, definitely.

01:45:23.060 When I was young, yeah, you give a girl a chocolate or something.

01:45:25.800 Take a girl out for a fish fillet or whatever.

01:45:28.360 Yeah.

01:45:28.800 For McDonald's?

01:45:30.060 Oh, no.

01:45:30.700 Like a real one or whatever.

01:45:32.260 Dude, my mommy's ordered the fish fillets.

01:45:33.700 But she would fucking, I, so.

01:45:36.740 I need to know, what's your meal at McDonald's?

01:45:38.460 I judge everybody by this.

01:45:39.480 So be very careful.

01:45:40.300 Me?

01:45:40.620 I do a double hamburger, which isn't on the menu, but you can get it with pickles and ketchup.

01:45:45.800 Do you add any Big Mac sauce to that?

01:45:47.720 No.

01:45:48.100 I don't know who's making it back there.

01:45:49.660 It depends.

01:45:50.480 Okay.

01:45:50.840 If Big Mac himself is back there, I'll take a couple ounces.

01:45:53.540 That's an okay order.

01:45:54.580 I mean, it's not fun, but like it's okay.

01:45:56.120 Yeah.

01:45:56.460 It's kind of sad though, but I'll tell you this.

01:45:58.520 I used to get two milks with it.

01:46:00.840 Milks?

01:46:01.500 Yeah.

01:46:02.220 What in the field on world?

01:46:03.300 Be right here.

01:46:05.140 What?

01:46:05.840 Oh, hell yeah, boy.

01:46:07.640 What?

01:46:08.100 Two milks?

01:46:08.980 See me in the streets.

01:46:10.200 You don't know me.

01:46:11.100 I'm the T.I.

01:46:11.920 of fucking Mickey D's orders, baby.

01:46:13.820 Look at that little milk jug right there.

01:46:16.420 And that's what they used to call my sister, little milk jug.

01:46:18.640 He's the only person that's ever.

01:46:20.200 That's what we used to call my sister, little milk jug.

01:46:22.860 Because she built like that.

01:46:24.080 She built like that.

01:46:25.000 Click on the third one right there.

01:46:26.620 Nobody in the history of McDonald's ever got the milk jug but Theovan.

01:46:31.560 They kept that on the menu for Theovan.

01:46:33.520 You can't order more than two.

01:46:34.540 That's the crazy thing.

01:46:35.540 What?

01:46:35.960 Yeah.

01:46:36.900 That's a limit.

01:46:37.340 Because they only have like 10 because no one orders them.

01:46:39.480 So if you order more than two, they've been sitting in the frigate.

01:46:41.960 We ride here.

01:46:44.040 I'm just saying, we get it how we live.

01:46:47.120 Wait, stop a double cheeseburger with a double milk jug?

01:46:49.880 Oh, double milk jug, baby.

01:46:51.700 Give me two of them.

01:46:53.040 And the lady be like, you really want two?

01:46:54.840 I'll be like, yeah.

01:46:56.740 And then we would laugh a little bit.

01:46:58.080 I'd tip her.

01:46:59.300 But yeah, that's how I like mine.

01:47:00.860 Like that double milk jug.

01:47:02.060 Like I used to get an apple pie, but I just, I don't want all that sugar anymore.

01:47:06.460 But my mother, I forgot to tell you this.

01:47:08.560 That is a Theovan order, man.

01:47:09.880 That is right there.

01:47:10.780 My mother, she would let us order and then she would, she'd be like, she would order

01:47:16.140 the McFish or whatever.

01:47:17.420 But she, it would almost be like she was ordering like a special, like, she'd be like, they'll

01:47:21.880 have this and this and this.

01:47:22.740 What do you want?

01:47:23.120 She'd be like, and I'll have the McFish.

01:47:25.380 It was almost like it was like.

01:47:27.140 The adult order.

01:47:28.180 Yeah.

01:47:28.320 Like quiet down.

01:47:29.380 Let me do business here with this person.

01:47:32.160 Have the McFish.

01:47:32.960 Yeah.

01:47:33.200 See, I feel like I can't trust the McFish.

01:47:35.400 That upsets me.

01:47:35.920 Hell no.

01:47:36.200 She has the wrong order and I'm not, like, I'm not here to respect your mother, but she,

01:47:40.880 I would speak to her about that.

01:47:41.860 Of course.

01:47:42.640 You know, I've never looked at an ocean and at a McDonald's and be like, yeah, these things

01:47:46.100 should know each other.

01:47:47.680 That is a fucking, there is not a yellow brick road that connects those bitches.

01:47:53.180 But so it always blew.

01:47:55.140 And she would look at us as if she was disappointed.

01:47:57.120 Like that's my mother would scoff.

01:47:58.440 So I'm like, you motherfuckers don't know about a McFish.

01:48:02.180 Nobody should be ordering the McFish.

01:48:03.940 I want to be very clear.

01:48:04.860 I agree.

01:48:05.500 Like you get like a heisey orange.

01:48:07.500 It's obviously delicious.

01:48:09.400 And the McMuffin, sausage, egg, and cheese muffins.

01:48:11.960 Oh, is that what you get?

01:48:12.800 Amazing.

01:48:13.260 They're hash browns in the morning.

01:48:15.220 They're fantastic.

01:48:16.480 They're absolutely fantastic.

01:48:17.800 And you know what?

01:48:19.160 RFK Jr. is bringing back beef tallow.

01:48:21.220 So we're going to be able to get some beef tallow fries.

01:48:23.240 That's what I heard.

01:48:24.120 Who's doing it first?

01:48:25.620 Shake Shack.

01:48:26.160 Shake.

01:48:26.580 No, no, no, no.

01:48:27.320 Steak and shake.

01:48:28.620 Oh, good for them.

01:48:29.660 And I've never had it.

01:48:31.120 I've never had steak and shake.

01:48:32.800 But I don't even know where to find a steak and shake.

01:48:35.160 Because I'm from the north.

01:48:36.120 You'll get them.

01:48:36.880 Have you had steak and shake?

01:48:38.200 No, but I say go door to door if you're steak and shake.

01:48:40.600 I don't even.

01:48:41.320 I used to sell door to door Italian with this guy for a little bit.

01:48:44.880 Do you think that mainstream media has an overall goal or has had an overall goal besides just capitalism?

01:48:50.100 Do you really think that?

01:48:51.100 I think they were just in service to the state.

01:48:52.700 I think the whole idea of the fourth estate was fake.

01:48:55.180 Like they weren't here to defend the people.

01:48:56.420 They were here to defend the state.

01:48:57.660 At least since the 60s.

01:48:58.920 That's what they've been doing.

01:49:00.780 And now they are – where they are right now is in survival mode.

01:49:04.060 They don't know what to do.

01:49:04.680 They don't have to do with the new media.

01:49:07.120 I think they're going to try to create backdoor ways to reacquire their talent.

01:49:10.340 I don't know if you follow the recent deal with Fox News building, which is crazy.

01:49:16.420 They purchased Red Seat Ventures.

01:49:18.520 Do you work with Red Seat Ventures?

01:49:19.680 Red Seat?

01:49:20.780 Red Seat.

01:49:21.600 So that's a no.

01:49:22.180 You don't work with them.

01:49:22.560 No, I don't.

01:49:23.480 So they were doing advertising for independent podcasters.

01:49:26.860 And we had spoken to them and we were just kind of like, no, we kind of broke away from corporation structure.

01:49:31.380 We don't really want to like – we want to do everything in-house sort of a thing.

01:49:34.860 And then they purchased Red Seat Ventures so they were able to kind of backdoor reacquire Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelley.

01:49:42.620 Everyone they fired, which is kind of crazy.

01:49:44.760 Really?

01:49:45.280 Think about how weird that is.

01:49:46.240 I was sitting here looking at this deal and I'm like, didn't you just fire Tucker?

01:49:49.400 And now you're like, why don't you guys just admit you were wrong?

01:49:51.060 Just come out and be like, you know what?

01:49:52.900 Tucker's got the juice.

01:49:54.460 Oh, I see.

01:49:54.980 Instead of just admitting it publicly one way, they would rather lose it and then go backdoor.

01:49:59.560 So there's all these articles.

01:50:00.360 Fox is interested in the podcast world.

01:50:02.540 And so they reacquired via just the – I'm not saying that they own the Tucker Carlson podcast.

01:50:08.580 They don't.

01:50:09.000 But Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelley and who's the third one?

01:50:13.060 Bill O'Reilly, who they literally fired all these people, were all using Red Seat Ventures.

01:50:18.320 And Red Seat Ventures, their pitch, because I remember that I spoke to them, was kind of like eventually all roads lead to Red Seat Ventures because you realize you need somebody to do your advertising deals.

01:50:26.840 Like you're going independent, but you don't want to handle all the advertisers, whatever.

01:50:29.660 And so they literally – if you look up Red Seat Ventures just in Google, you'll see like the recent deal, Fox News acquired Red Seat Ventures.

01:50:39.240 And I'm like, okay, that's just – it's an interesting – it's objectively an interesting move because it kind of signals to me that you wanted to reacquire your talent.

01:50:48.340 You know what I'm saying?

01:50:49.060 Fox Corporation today announced its acquisition of Red Seat Ventures, a leading business in the creator economy that powers talent across a range of genres as they build their direct-to-consumer media business.

01:50:59.840 Does it say what talent it works with them?

01:51:02.540 Yeah, scroll down.

01:51:03.620 So Chris Balfe is – yeah, they're the founding partners.

01:51:06.340 I would go down –

01:51:06.680 Chris Balfe and Kevin Balfe, I'm assuming brothers or husbands.

01:51:10.200 Yeah, I would go out of PR, Newswire, because that's just like them writing it, and they're not going to say what talent was with it.

01:51:15.800 But I would go to Reuters, yeah.

01:51:18.340 They would probably have – yeah.

01:51:19.540 Oh, Reuters?

01:51:20.180 Is that how you say that?

01:51:21.320 You know what?

01:51:21.700 I don't – I've been saying Reuters.

01:51:23.080 It could not be right, but that will tell you that like you're –

01:51:26.380 I mean, it's just me at there.

01:51:27.360 Yeah, so they've been interested.

01:51:28.700 But like, yeah, it was Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and – oh, here you go.

01:51:32.120 Carlson, Kelly, Sean Ryan.

01:51:33.820 Oh, no, that's just saying that we reached millions of subscribers daily.

01:51:36.500 But, yeah, they had –

01:51:38.500 The deal brings O'Reilly, Kelly, and Carlson back into Murdoch's fold.

01:51:43.180 So I didn't like that at all for like Carlson and Kelly and O'Reilly because I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:51:48.680 You fired me, homie.

01:51:49.940 You know what I mean?

01:51:50.380 Like, hold on.

01:51:50.900 Let's be very clear.

01:51:51.660 You shamed me publicly.

01:51:53.300 You fired me.

01:51:54.880 You said whatever.

01:51:56.020 I wasn't a part of this – whatever it was.

01:51:58.180 And now you're kind of like trying to build this little backward network.

01:52:01.020 No, you need to say you're sorry first.

01:52:02.600 Wow.

01:52:02.960 But I'm sure that like obviously Red Seat will have had a deal with them that will expire,

01:52:07.020 and what will happen is those people just won't renew if they don't want to because they might say, no, you literally fired me.

01:52:12.580 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:52:13.220 So, yeah, so they're the middle guy, but I thought it was an interesting move without saying you're sorry, trying to reacquire someone.

01:52:19.540 Well, I do think it's interesting that some political areas have – some political – some shows have become more –

01:52:25.780 have slowly tried to like slurp on a more of a conservative side.

01:52:29.000 Like Bill Meyer did that well over the past four or five years.

01:52:34.640 You started to see him like – he recognized like –

01:52:37.700 Where the wind was blowing.

01:52:38.620 Just, yeah, he was able to see it ahead.

01:52:40.400 Do you think America is a place that everybody is just here and you can be here and be not even supporting America?

01:52:49.180 That's what's interesting to me about America.

01:52:50.760 That's what I start to recognize like, oh, well, some people are here, but they don't – they're not America first, right?

01:52:56.240 Or they may not be.

01:52:58.320 Do you think America has always kind of been that and that's what it is?

01:53:01.980 It's kind of this halfway house for everywhere of like – of the whole planet?

01:53:07.760 Or do you feel like it's this other – like you have to buy into this, you know, red, white, and blue stars and stripes?

01:53:15.340 What I would say is right now America is kind of in the midst of this identity crisis and that's in large part because it's been conditioned now by the media and the school system in partnership to kind of tell people you should hate your country.

01:53:31.760 And the reality is most Americans never leave their country.

01:53:34.080 They know nothing – they have nothing to weigh it against.

01:53:35.940 And they sort of blindly accept this narrative that like we're just these bad guys who did bad things and there's been sort of this like American shaming that's taken place and it's been effective.

01:53:46.680 That began to sort of snap back with Trump culture and that's kind of what people were missing.

01:53:50.680 It wasn't about when we make America great.

01:53:51.940 It's like allow me to just feel good as an American.

01:53:54.420 Like why can't I like being American?

01:53:55.900 Why can't – what's wrong with just being straight?

01:53:58.000 Like it's like we celebrate everything but like we almost started like hating normalcy, which is like a weird thing to say.

01:54:04.680 But like if you were gay, if you were – anything, something going on, whatever it is, handicap.

01:54:10.700 It was like yes, yes.

01:54:11.860 And then if you were just like yeah, I'm just like a straight white dude.

01:54:15.380 It was like oh my gosh.

01:54:17.320 What do you mean?

01:54:18.620 That's not –

01:54:19.380 You're queer.

01:54:19.760 Then they would yell you.

01:54:20.300 Yeah.

01:54:20.720 You guys became the queers.

01:54:22.140 Yeah.

01:54:22.820 And so that was weird.

01:54:25.440 And the American flag became this right wing symbol, which I was like –

01:54:28.880 I was like what's happening?

01:54:29.920 But it was like doesn't anybody see that?

01:54:32.060 Like don't you notice like I'm – you know, like I wish there were more parties.

01:54:36.460 I don't think there's enough parties that I think it's – you can't pigeonhole people in a Republican or Democrat most of the time.

01:54:43.320 I don't think you'd ever be able to pigeonhole me that way.

01:54:46.180 I think there should be more political parties so we feel like you can find when that fits you because it's just this dirty Cinderella where neither one of these fucking clogs is really helping me get down the stairs anymore.

01:54:57.620 It feels like, you know.

01:54:58.340 But you're right that you said we were saying the flag became this symbol of like –

01:55:01.860 And it's like nobody else noticed that?

01:55:03.340 Like that's our country's flag, right?

01:55:05.300 Like what's wrong with this?

01:55:06.700 Yeah.

01:55:07.180 Like –

01:55:07.700 That's what I mean.

01:55:08.440 We got crazy.

01:55:09.720 We got absolutely crazy.

01:55:11.500 And so we were in the midst of an identity crisis but it was being – it was a – it was a social engineering.

01:55:16.960 It happened intentionally.

01:55:17.980 They wanted people to feel that way.

01:55:19.540 And I think now it's snapping back and we're starting to realize the problem is –

01:55:22.340 It are these people who are making us feel like we had nothing in common and we have a lot more in common than we don't.

01:55:27.840 And so there's like – and now we're going through like this period of healing which has been nice and we were kind of talking about this off camera where it seems like the right and the left are finding things to agree on and realizing that these caricatures of what it means to be a left – be on the left or the right were largely created by the media.

01:55:42.680 Yes, you can find very fringe people on both sides who do not defy or who are the stereotype, but that's not the majority of people.

01:55:52.400 The majority of people just want to go to work, have a job, have low gas prices.

01:55:55.400 Live in a safe place.

01:55:56.120 Live in a safe place.

01:55:56.720 It's not that hard, right?

01:55:58.140 Right.

01:55:58.900 Yeah.

01:55:59.400 It's called Nashville.

01:56:00.860 But I will say this.

01:56:02.060 I think – yeah, if you have an idea, right, that you think, well, we have to get rid of this group of people or these people aren't – that is never going to be America, right?

01:56:11.200 America is always – I mean like when it comes to like races and ethnicities, right?

01:56:16.820 It's just – it's going to be a melting pot, right?

01:56:19.340 So you always have to think with the goal at the end is that everybody is going to be here.

01:56:24.820 Yeah.

01:56:25.040 I mean but also we should be clear.

01:56:26.900 Like not everybody should be here if they don't appreciate what it means to be an American.

01:56:31.060 I agree.

01:56:31.700 You should not be allowed to be here.

01:56:32.980 Like there is like – if you have resentment for America and at the same time you want to come to America, we have a problem.

01:56:38.780 But then people say you have the freedom to think and feel whatever you want, right?

01:56:42.780 Yeah, you also have the freedom to stay in your own country.

01:56:44.860 Right.

01:56:45.500 That's cool.

01:56:46.200 You can hate America but we need to have a process where people that resent America are not coming into America.

01:56:51.780 Like we do have a value system.

01:56:53.260 Like America was founded on Christian principles and things of that nature.

01:56:57.460 And they are like, no, there's nothing.

01:56:58.820 You can be whatever.

01:56:59.460 It's like, no, you can't be whatever actually.

01:57:01.740 You can't just be whatever and come to America.

01:57:04.860 You know, maybe you and I have that privilege.

01:57:06.440 We were born here that if we get angry at our country, we can voice that.

01:57:08.980 But you could be Muslim or Taiwanese.

01:57:12.280 You could be –

01:57:12.880 Right.

01:57:13.140 But if you're coming here and we're able to decide whether or not we want you to be here, these things now – we need to make sure that culturally, whatever it is that you believe and whatever your ideas are, however you view America, that now becomes relevant.

01:57:24.880 We need to have a system that works.

01:57:26.920 Yeah, I do think it would be – but then it's like how do you get into that without communism though?

01:57:31.580 Look at Japan.

01:57:32.980 You know, look at Japan.

01:57:34.540 Japan is – let's be very clear.

01:57:36.580 We are the only country that has this idea that everyone should come here.

01:57:39.320 It's insane obviously because that doesn't work.

01:57:41.220 Oh, I agree.

01:57:41.820 I agree.

01:57:42.260 It's like America gets held in the media like, you know, like be welcoming and do this and do that.

01:57:47.200 But then meanwhile, other countries get to be – have followed their letter to the law.

01:57:53.000 And we're held by our own media a lot of times to this ridiculous fucking –

01:57:56.160 Ridiculous standard.

01:57:56.740 Why don't we have a letter to our law?

01:57:58.600 Right.

01:57:58.780 You know?

01:57:59.360 We should all at least have the common ground that America is first whether we like some things about it or don't like some things about it because if not, it feels like you're just one of the ops, you know?

01:58:09.600 Right.

01:58:10.000 And multiculturalism doesn't actually work and I hate to tell people that.

01:58:13.320 I know it's like a fluffy dream.

01:58:14.700 It doesn't work.

01:58:15.400 What do you mean by that?

01:58:16.420 You have to have a culture like there are certain cultures that cannot coincide with one another, right?

01:58:22.220 So like let's say for example your culture believes that, you know, children should be able to make decisions about their sexuality, right?

01:58:33.320 That actually conflicts with my culture and so I actually do not want you in my country.

01:58:38.160 I don't.

01:58:39.400 Well, you may not want that person making the law but they're welcome to be in their house and think and feel however they want.

01:58:45.240 Well, no, I'm talking about like people that believe that like a like a nine-year-old girl can have sex with, you know, an adult.

01:58:52.620 It's like that just conflicts with our culture.

01:58:54.160 Right.

01:58:54.300 I agree.

01:58:54.740 Right.

01:58:54.960 So we don't believe in that and so this whole idea of multiculturalism is no matter what you think we can find a home and you can kind of build your own nest here.

01:59:01.940 It's like no, actually I'm comfortable with us saying you can't do that.

01:59:06.160 I'm comfortable if we're going to send you the front lines because of your opinions, you know what I mean?

01:59:09.860 And you've got to go fight some war and yeah, with no helmets.

01:59:13.340 And so that's what it is.

01:59:15.240 We have to define what it is that we believe and it's been increasingly difficult because people are forgetting just a couple of generations ago what we agreed on in America.

01:59:24.900 Our parents were religious.

01:59:26.260 You forget that.

01:59:26.980 Like what is the story of the South?

01:59:28.300 Like what is the story of the Bible Belt?

01:59:29.700 Why is it called the Bible Belt?

01:59:30.800 Well, I mean, then that goes to a question.

01:59:32.780 Do you think America is a Christian nation?

01:59:35.880 Yes.

01:59:35.980 Do you think it or do you think it's more of a moral nation and do you think that that's eroding?

01:59:41.860 I mean, I think some of that could be a whole nother conversation probably.

01:59:44.220 Yeah, it could be another conversation, but I think America was is a Christian nation that has forgotten that in many ways and forgotten why we were so much more cohesive and comprehensive when we had faith at the center of what we did.

01:59:58.820 And when once we started removing faith and I'm talking about removing the Bible from the classroom, which was done in the early 70s, if I'm correct, Department of Education and kind of a thing.

02:00:09.380 People got lost real quick.

02:00:10.780 And so I I guess I what I guess what I'm arguing for is is a theocracy, which means you're going to run it.

02:00:17.200 A theocracy because I'm Theo.

02:00:18.180 Yeah.

02:00:18.820 Damn, dude, I fucking I'm going to miss this taxi I ordered in a little bit.

02:00:22.700 I don't know if I can handle all that, dude.

02:00:24.740 We need a theocracy.

02:00:25.700 Um, yeah, you know, I do think that I do like there was something nice about having structure in the schools, but then a lot of that got challenged.

02:00:35.060 Yeah, I think it is like I think America does need to figure out, well, what is our footprint?

02:00:39.080 You know, like who are we?

02:00:40.760 What do we want to stand up for and believe in and believe these are the things that define our country?

02:00:46.840 I believe that we're a Christian nation and that used to be a thing like before the flag became racist, we were all saying one nation under God.

02:00:52.920 And then we began we became this nation that was one nation like over God, like people are become their own gods or worshiping Hollywood.

02:00:59.780 It's like crazy.

02:01:00.520 We become like a pagan culture.

02:01:01.840 Well, Hollywood is, you know, it's celebrity has those things that are addictive, you know, and I think a lot of that is demonic, you know, and the Bible will tell you all of those things about idolatry.

02:01:10.560 Kids would have been learning that, you know, I grew up learning the Bible on it.

02:01:14.160 Well, what is what is a demon?

02:01:16.600 Right.

02:01:16.880 If you have you you speak often about like you used to have addictions and things like that.

02:01:20.640 And when when I grew up in a household, people, people in my family still have, you know, addiction issues.

02:01:27.360 It's a demon, you know, well, Hollywood gets it gets pinpointed a lot because it's the glossy thing.

02:01:32.900 It's Babylon.

02:01:33.460 Yeah, it's the yeah.

02:01:34.800 So I think they love the culture of excess.

02:01:37.240 Everything that the Bible tells us not to celebrate is like becomes like the thing.

02:01:41.340 And that's why it's a Hollywood Babylon.

02:01:42.500 You know, it's like they're trying to stay young forever.

02:01:45.560 That's weird.

02:01:46.280 You're like, why don't you want to age?

02:01:48.480 You know, they're look at and they look crazy.

02:01:51.580 Everybody wants to be fresh.

02:01:52.620 I think you want to be fresh.

02:01:53.820 But like, I'm not afraid of aging.

02:01:55.380 Like, I'm not like I think it's look at these when they look terrifying and they're holding and stretched.

02:01:59.240 And it's like, dude, you could just be 80.

02:02:01.040 You know what I'm saying?

02:02:02.340 Somebody look like a damn dough or something.

02:02:04.240 That's me.

02:02:04.580 Yeah.

02:02:05.060 You look like somebody put a couple of eyes in a like carrying after yourself in a pizza dough or whatever.

02:02:10.080 Yeah.

02:02:10.620 Somebody glued a damn snout on a pizza dough.

02:02:13.020 These girls are 22 looking like they're 50.

02:02:15.220 Now, that's, dude, I'll say this.

02:02:17.140 I seen a girl, right?

02:02:18.820 Her lips look like they were getting ready to be like they'd been in a burn, like just like inflated to probably six, maybe 14 PSI or whatever.

02:02:30.120 And it's like, what are we fucking doing?

02:02:31.760 And if you kiss somebody like that, it feels insane.

02:02:34.640 And then they put all that gloss on her on them.

02:02:36.940 I've always wondered what the kiss feels like.

02:02:39.320 Is it like weird?

02:02:40.420 Well, yeah, it's weird.

02:02:41.420 But then they trampoline.

02:02:42.320 They polish them up with that gloss in her.

02:02:44.660 No, it's like it's almost like you're sucking on something.

02:02:47.360 It's almost like a shrimp that won't fucking give up.

02:02:51.020 That's what it's like.

02:02:51.760 It's like trying to eat two shrimps that won't give up.

02:02:55.060 I always wondered.

02:02:56.560 We have there's probably more we can talk about.

02:02:58.460 Yeah, I do want to say a Jewish friend of mine set this set this up in case anybody gets I want to be clear.

02:03:05.080 I'm friends with so many like Jewish people in Hollywood, too.

02:03:08.180 So that's why I'm like, it's so just in disingenuous.

02:03:10.200 Every time we talk to them, they all agree on this topic of Bibi Netanyahu.

02:03:13.840 Like they will support Israel, but they'll be like they can critique him.

02:03:17.580 And so we need to normalize that.

02:03:19.460 Like, don't try to tell black people they have to support BLM.

02:03:22.540 Don't tell Jewish people they have to support Israel.

02:03:25.520 Allow people to be individuals.

02:03:27.200 Allow people to say what they think, you know, is right or is wrong without trying to pigeonhole them according to their identity.

02:03:33.100 I appreciate you coming on and talking.

02:03:34.580 I'm excited to hear about the Weinstein thing.

02:03:38.600 Good luck with the presidency.

02:03:39.800 Will you homeschool your children?

02:03:41.100 Will you find schools for them?

02:03:42.100 What are you doing?

02:03:42.840 We're thinking homeschooling.

02:03:43.920 No way.

02:03:44.460 Who's going to do the professoring, though?

02:03:46.080 Me until like they get to like sixth grade math.

02:03:48.640 And then I'm going to be like, wait a second.

02:03:50.140 Put the husband in?

02:03:52.760 Get a tutor.

02:03:53.780 Oh, get a tutor.

02:03:54.120 Oh, my husband's excellent at math, but he wouldn't do it.

02:03:57.760 What is he like to do, your husband?

02:03:59.760 We talked about this.

02:04:00.640 He sends war letters.

02:04:01.560 He's English.

02:04:02.080 Oh, yeah.

02:04:02.720 He just sits in his library and sends war letters and laments the lost colonies.

02:04:07.040 I think he married me because he's trying to build some back roads to the UK reacquiring America.

02:04:12.560 I think it's not over.

02:04:13.780 Like the Revolutionary War is not over until it's over.

02:04:16.060 You know what I'm saying?

02:04:16.660 Oh, it never ends.

02:04:17.580 He's an agent.

02:04:18.200 He's an agent, a British agent trying to reacquire the colonies.

02:04:23.200 He slipped once.

02:04:24.380 He called me a colonist.

02:04:25.900 And I said, ooh.

02:04:27.320 Kind of romantic.

02:04:28.240 Yeah.

02:04:28.600 He is kind of romantic.

02:04:29.880 He's darkly romantic.

02:04:30.480 Yeah.

02:04:31.080 The colonies.

02:04:32.280 Love.

02:04:32.800 You never know where you'll find it.

02:04:35.960 It's interesting.

02:04:36.800 He keeps me straight.

02:04:38.000 Is he?

02:04:38.220 Straight and narrow, yeah.

02:04:39.380 That's awesome.

02:04:39.640 I'm like, why do we got to file these taxes?

02:04:41.220 He's like, you can't block you.

02:04:42.180 Why do you guys got to try to not file your taxes?

02:04:44.660 And I was like, I don't want to give this money to the government.

02:04:46.720 And he's like, well, you got to give the money to the government.

02:04:48.760 Do you think that Elon has, that he is like for the people?

02:04:54.760 I'm the only person always.

02:04:56.980 I don't feel, I have a weird feeling about Elon.

02:04:59.280 I don't know why.

02:04:59.940 Curious about it.

02:05:00.820 I just, he, Sam Altman, the AI crowd just freaks me out on a spiritual level.

02:05:05.400 And sometimes it's just your gut.

02:05:06.900 And I'm going with my gut.

02:05:08.080 I think gut is God intuition.

02:05:10.040 And they just freak me the hell out.

02:05:11.980 Well, here's the thing I've thought about this.

02:05:13.120 They even all look weird.

02:05:13.980 Like they look like they're robots, you know?

02:05:15.740 Well, here's the thing.

02:05:16.440 Like they come from another planet.

02:05:17.520 A lot of the inventors and creators now have, and I think a lot of people would say that they

02:05:22.520 possibly have some type of autism, right?

02:05:25.020 A little bit of it, right?

02:05:25.820 And I think that's, that's not debated by a lot of them.

02:05:28.680 They would say that, right?

02:05:29.740 That's pretty normal.

02:05:30.340 But a lot of autistic people, they are good with concepts, right?

02:05:35.140 But they're not as good a lot of times with emotions, right?

02:05:38.740 Not in the practical way that people without autism seem to be.

02:05:43.120 So that's what I'm saying.

02:05:44.460 We're getting more products that are created that have less emotion in them and are more

02:05:49.920 just practical.

02:05:51.380 Right.

02:05:51.820 But that's scary.

02:05:52.600 Because that's the type of people that the creativity is going through.

02:05:55.400 Yeah.

02:05:55.580 And that scares me, right?

02:05:56.520 So I think they're like, well, why do we need a woman when we can create an artificial

02:06:00.140 womb?

02:06:00.740 Yeah.

02:06:01.300 Yeah.

02:06:01.480 I don't like that.

02:06:02.260 I feel like we should maybe pause and think about that before we all sign up.

02:06:05.740 Yeah.

02:06:06.040 You don't want to be at the club and you're just grinding up on some electronic womb in

02:06:11.460 the corner.

02:06:11.940 That's how I feel.

02:06:12.820 Like, I feel like that's where we're going to get with these people.

02:06:15.080 And he has a lot of kids.

02:06:16.180 Shake it like a dog, baby.

02:06:17.440 Do what you do.

02:06:18.260 That song comes on and people are just grinding up against like some electric womb where you have

02:06:24.040 to put a quarter in it or whatever to get to shake.

02:06:25.900 Just line up.

02:06:26.220 Yeah.

02:06:26.440 Line up to get pregnant sort of a thing.

02:06:28.160 I don't like any of it.

02:06:29.300 It makes me scared.

02:06:30.400 And they just make me uncomfortable.

02:06:31.980 And that's all I could say.

02:06:33.300 I'm like, listen, I know I don't have, like you say, I don't have the information, but

02:06:37.220 I have the intuition that like we're barreling towards this like AI future and the lack of

02:06:42.360 emotion just makes me uncomfortable.

02:06:44.500 I'm like, okay, but these are humans.

02:06:46.140 They're like, but here's how we can solve the human problem.

02:06:48.640 Yeah.

02:06:49.240 Maybe they are aliens.

02:06:50.840 Press one.

02:06:51.420 Yeah.

02:06:52.120 Yeah.

02:06:52.620 I mean, yeah.

02:06:53.220 It's, I don't know.

02:06:54.680 It's fascinating.

02:06:55.180 Candace Owens, thanks for your time.

02:06:57.160 Congrats on this.

02:06:58.000 When are we going to see this baby?

02:07:00.100 May 4th.

02:07:02.020 May the 4th be with you.

02:07:03.980 The Ides of May.

02:07:05.380 Mm-hmm.

02:07:06.000 Not really, but mm-hmm.

02:07:07.380 Yeah.

02:07:07.660 Sorry.

02:07:07.900 It's Ides of March.

02:07:08.760 Yes.

02:07:09.180 But you were close enough.

02:07:10.340 Maypole.

02:07:11.000 What's May 5th?

02:07:11.860 Not the Ides.

02:07:13.680 What's May 5th?

02:07:14.380 The Maypole, isn't it?

02:07:15.840 The Ides of March.

02:07:17.300 The 15th.

02:07:18.120 Oh, that's Cinco de Mayo.

02:07:19.580 Oh, yeah.

02:07:20.000 You're thinking of tacos.

02:07:20.960 That's what I'm thinking of.

02:07:21.620 Yeah.

02:07:22.220 Yeah.

02:07:22.540 He said, what's May 5th?

02:07:23.760 What's May 5th?

02:07:24.960 Cinco de Mayo.

02:07:25.960 Yeah.

02:07:26.540 Oh, it could be Latino, huh?

02:07:28.940 If you and a white man had a Mexican baby, dude, that's AI.

02:07:33.840 Best of luck.

02:07:34.560 Thank you so much for hanging out with me.

02:07:35.920 Thank you for having me.

02:07:36.920 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:07:42.900 I must be cornerstone.

02:07:48.020 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

02:07:53.500 I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - March 05, 2025

E566 Candace Owens

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