On this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we take a look at Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, and whether or not she was a racist or a eugenicist. Plus, a conspiracy theory about why women should be sterilized.
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00:00:29.000Yes, Margaret Sanger was an open eugenicist.
00:00:31.000She spoke in front of a Klan meeting for women and she also repeatedly said that she had what was known, we can't see this on YouTube but I'm quoting the name of it, it was called the Negro Project.
00:00:42.000This was an actual project she had named and the idea was What the fuck?
00:00:46.000the black population and she said that they needed to work with black leaders
00:00:50.000in their communities to convince the people to sterilize themselves to not
00:00:54.000reproduce. Was Margaret Sanger a racist?
00:01:00.000blah blah blah blah she was a eugenicist for books.
00:01:06.000You know the left always talks about how they're on the right side of history
00:01:09.000which is interesting because all of their predictions turn out to be wrong
00:01:11.000after six months so that's a little bit strange but also with Margaret Sanger
00:01:15.000she was a eugenicist because all of the early progressives were. Their movement
00:02:41.000Uh, it's kind of like you, you do it to like maintain the testosterone levels.
00:02:45.000I just, I was wondering if, I mean, these things lead to infertility.
00:02:51.000Planned Parenthood just seems to generally want there to be less people.
00:02:54.000I mean, yeah, it does lead to infertility.
00:02:57.000Like, I didn't have that because I wasn't on it for long enough, but if a woman is on testosterone for enough years, like, her organs, her reproductive organs will start to die inside her body.
00:03:10.000I don't think it's as much of an issue with men, but I know for women it's like you have the ovaries, you have the uterus, and they need the hormones to stay alive.
00:03:19.000If they don't have the hormones, they start to atrophy.
00:03:23.000I think I was saying it to you, Seamus.
00:03:26.000I think I said it on the members only, because I don't know if YouTube would allow us to say something like this, but like, all of these parents that are sterilizing their kids are just excising their genes from the gene pool.
00:03:34.000So I have to wonder if, you know, these organizations, like, and I'm saying I have to wonder, Media Matters, I know you're watching.
00:03:44.000Are there people who are like, stupid people will remove themselves from the gene pool?
00:03:49.000I mean, I'm not sure if that's it, as much as they just generally want to promote sexually depraved lifestyles.
00:03:54.000No, that's too comic book one-dimensional.
00:03:56.000I don't think it's comic book one-dimensional.
00:03:58.000I think that these are people who consider themselves to be sexually liberated.
00:04:01.000And so they say, oh, well, I am acting in favor of the movement of sexual liberation by taking the next step.
00:04:07.000Yeah, by allowing people to sterilize themselves.
00:04:09.000What's more interesting to me is that Margaret Sanger very clearly wanted to reduce the black population.
00:04:16.000She founded an organization called Planned Parenthood, and to this day, they disproportionately target the black community for abortions and contraceptives.
00:04:23.000When you say reduce the population, are you implying that she wanted to slow the growth of the population, or that she wanted to kill off a bunch of them?
00:04:32.000Margaret Sanger said she wanted to weed the human garden.
00:04:40.000She thought that only smart people should have babies.
00:04:44.000Which, whatever, make of that what you will.
00:04:47.000She thought that only the best and brightest among us should be able to reproduce, and she thought that having children was a burden on women.
00:04:55.000So, make of all of that what you will.
00:04:57.000And I genuinely think that she was truly racist.
00:04:59.000And when you look at the fact that PolitiFact fact-checked the fucking fact that more black babies were aborted than born in New York City in 2015 and in 2018.
00:05:09.000There was an article written about this in the Wall Street Journal.
00:05:13.000By Jason, I forget what his name was, Jason Reilly.
00:05:16.000The fact is that Planned Parenthood specifically targets low-income black women.
00:05:26.000Sanger's own words in an article titled, A Better Race Through Birth Control, within this article she wrote, Given birth control, the unfit will voluntarily eliminate their kind.
00:05:38.000So this is why I bring this up because when I hear that Planned Parenthood without question gave you testosterone, I mean, that sounds like what they're doing.
00:05:48.000They're trying to find people who are willing to sterilize themselves.
00:05:53.000So instead of going, they used to do this thing back in the day with eugenics where they'd be like, we'll give you $500 to get your tubes tied.
00:05:59.000Because if you didn't have the means to support yourself, you would take the money and then sterilize yourself or make it impossible for you to have kids.
00:06:17.000I mean, so for example, the person at Planned Parenthood who gave you hormones, I don't think that they were necessarily thinking, I don't want this person to reproduce.
00:06:26.000I think they were thinking, I am acting in favor, or I am, you know, acting in the interest of like sexually liberating this person.
00:06:32.000And in a very twisted way, they saw themselves as someone who was advocating for you.
00:06:38.000But it is true that the end result is that it could have rendered you infertile.
00:07:25.000I think just like with slavery, the best slaver will have the slaves willingly become slaves and enjoy being slaves and do it of their own volition, that getting people to sterilize themselves, you want them to want to do it.
00:08:15.000I believe that a person who says something like, there should be fewer people, or we need to slow the growth of our population, or we need to reduce the population by 15%, should be treated just as bad, if not worse, than someone who makes that exact same statement, but targeting Not population, population growth.
00:08:30.000I mean, isn't that what she... Bill Gates... No, he's not saying reduce the population.
00:08:33.000on stage and they selected a specific minority group and they said if we
00:08:36.000really work together we can prevent the growth of this minority group by 15%
00:08:39.000right I mean isn't that what she said but what I'm saying is the fact is what
00:08:44.000Bill Gates is saying is also horrific because that kind of genocidal rhetoric
00:08:48.000does not become moral because you extend it to everybody no he's not saying
00:08:52.000reduce the population he said reduce population growth by 15% no I know and I
00:08:58.000would say that's I would still argue that's genocidal rhetoric
00:09:00.000I think if you were to say that about a specific minority group, that you wanted to slow their population growth by 15%, it would be called genocidal rhetoric.
00:09:07.000And I don't want to draw a distinction here and say, because you've applied that to everyone, it's now acceptable.
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00:11:37.000Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%.
00:11:45.000He literally is saying that 9 billion number can be lowered by 10 or 15.
00:11:48.000He didn't say You can you can give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's talking about growth or you can be like, you know He's just saying the population should be less I think he's talking about growth, for sure.
00:12:29.000I don't know if it's about eugenics or whatever, but I genuinely think that they just see women as this population that they psychologically own.
00:12:38.000They've instilled a fear and a hatred of your own body in so many women.
00:12:44.000It makes sense to me that they would just, you know, take advantage of another avenue where that's happening.
00:12:49.000It seems like it's a self-correcting problem, though.
00:12:51.000Even if it's just a wild theory that they're eugenicists, the end result will be parents of trans kids will excise their genetics from the gene pool and they will cease to exist.
00:13:01.000But I can't accept that because someone like you, for example, were brainwashed in some sense.
00:13:09.000You were encouraged to adopt this lifestyle choice which could have rendered you infertile.
00:13:13.000I wouldn't see that as problem solved if she became infertile.
00:13:16.000Their argument is, again, assuming they're legitimately genocists, The people who are resilient to these brainwashing techniques are going to have kids.
00:13:26.000So you resist it and you can have kids.
00:13:28.000I also have a brother and he didn't do this, so... But it's all simple math.
00:13:33.000If a population will have 100 babies over the span of 100 years, Bill Gates says he wants to reduce it by 15%, okay.
00:13:41.000So a family with two kids, you only got to sterilize one of those kids and you've cut their population expansion in half.
00:13:46.000So it still is a reduction in birth numbers.
00:13:49.000I don't know if they need to go there.
00:13:50.000Again, I still really maintain that this is just them continuing their pattern of exploiting women and seeing them as, you know, for-profit basically things, objects.
00:14:24.000I think my point is, regardless of what their stated intention is, regardless of what the intention of any specific person working at Planned Parenthood is, this is an organization which was founded for the purpose of eugenics, which is sterilizing people.
00:14:54.000That's gonna change the genetics of our species, whether or not they have kids.
00:14:58.000The ideas can fuck us up, too, and make us better.
00:15:01.000Well, I also want to mention something else.
00:15:04.000The left will constantly point to institutions that they argue had some origin in racist thought.
00:15:10.000And even if the institution operates in a completely racially neutral way today, they will argue that said organization is in fact racist because its foundations were.
00:15:21.000So, if Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist eugenicist who wanted to engage in ethnic hygiene and cleansing and have, you know, quote-unquote undesirable populations eliminate themselves, and to this day, one of the genetic groups she saw as inferior is being targeted by her organization for abortions and contraceptives, what are we led to conclude?
00:15:45.000Is this what Planned Parenthood always did?
00:15:55.000I believe it was contraceptives at first.
00:15:58.000So an organization that was founded by a racist eugenicist to reduce certain populations and encourage only good breeding to this day is still carrying out the exact same work, but they've kind of removed the ideological component.
00:16:12.000It's like if somebody starts a fire, And the fire is spreading, and then that person dies, and the fire is still there, and people are like, well, you know, the fire's always been doing its thing, and the fire's not bad.
00:16:22.000It's like, that fire was started for these reasons, and it is burning through the very thing this person was trying to destroy.
00:16:28.000Why would you now all of a sudden ignore what the purpose of the fire is?
00:16:32.000If the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics, it is still carrying out the exact same mission from when it was started, and they predominantly put these things in minority neighborhoods, why would you assume they're doing anything different than their stated mission?
00:16:45.000I guess because Thomas Jefferson had slaves doesn't mean that everyone that comes after him and his government was a slaver.
00:17:27.000Well, they're doing everything they can to prevent them from procreating.
00:17:31.000You see this viral video where a dad goes to a school, and he goes to the teacher, and it's an old black man, and he's like, which one do you put my grandson in a dress?
00:17:39.000And the woman's like, you can't talk to me about this.
00:17:41.000The guy's like, no, I'm talking to you right now.
00:18:05.000Let's show you standing up for a child against perverts.
00:18:08.000I don't know if the left is going to win in the long run.
00:18:10.000I think increasing the rate of population growth would also be considered eugenics.
00:18:17.000It's just like toying with the population.
00:18:18.000No, that makes no sense because... It's not always about reducing.
00:18:21.000Eugenics is only having good people breed.
00:18:24.000So if your argument is they take a bunch of ubermensch and have a hundred babies, it doesn't matter how many babies they're having.
00:18:30.000They take the semen from one fit man... The issue is, Margaret Sanger is preventing certain babies from existing to prevent them from staying in the gene pool.
00:18:38.000But they also do, like, a woman can go get sperm at a sperm bank.
00:18:43.000Does Planned Parenthood do that stuff?
00:19:20.000Transgender hormone therapy, look at that.
00:19:21.000They justified it because what they would do is like, I think they would tell women about other facilities that they could potentially go to to get mammograms, but that's like saying that the Yellow Pages provides pizza.
00:19:31.000I'm not going to take credit for that analogy, but it's the same thing.
00:19:33.000Telling someone where they can go get something is not the same as providing it.
00:20:03.000And so we did a video about this a while ago for Freedom Tunes.
00:20:06.000It was actually one of my first videos that really gained traction, but basically Planned Parenthood claims that abortion is only 3% of its services, but it's totally nonsensical.
00:20:16.000It's a dishonest way of looking at it.
00:20:55.000They count every single individual thing as a service in that way to obfuscate the fact that they make a lot of money off of abortion.
00:21:02.000Hold on, let me ask you, like, you were 18 when you got hormones.
00:21:05.000So I do think there's an issue if they're just willy-nilly giving them out, but what about the libertarian argument?
00:21:11.000I mean, adults can do what they want to do.
00:21:13.000I agree with that to an extent, but I also think that there's a responsibility on the part of medical providers where it's like, you know, if you're a surgeon, what is your responsibility to your patient?
00:21:25.000Like if someone comes in, they're clearly mentally ill.
00:21:28.000They're clearly, you know, have a lot of issues.
00:21:30.000Is it ethical for that surgeon to just cut their balls off?
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00:22:06.000Yeah, does the government have some kind of responsibility to intervene in that like we
00:22:11.000do with other, you know, consumer protection?
00:22:14.000That's what we were talking about last night.
00:22:18.000I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing.
00:22:20.000I mean, do you think people... I think... Well, I mean, I don't know about illegal, because it's like, well, I mean, if you're already... What are they going to do?
00:22:27.000But I don't think we should support suicide just because someone wants to do it, you know?
00:22:36.000I think civil authorities have a reason to step in.
00:22:38.000And I also agree with you completely when you're saying that civil authorities have some interest and responsibility in ensuring that unnecessary medical procedures that could potentially destroy people's lives aren't performed on them.
00:22:49.000Especially when it's like, there's no evidence that this helps people.
00:23:05.000The only long-term evidence that we have into this is it followed adult transsexuals for 30 years, and it's still found that after all the surgeries were complete, they still had 20 times the suicide rate, completed suicide rate, of the general population.
00:24:12.000For anyone who argues that Tim's point about someone cutting their arm off as hyperbolic, or their hand off as hyperbolic, or an unfair comparison, just ask yourself this question.
00:24:20.000As an adult right now, if you had to have one unfortunate incident happen in your past as a child, and you're a man, would you rather a doctor had cut one of your hands off because you said you didn't want that hand, or would you rather they put you on hormones that prevented you from developing sexually?
00:24:35.000And so you never, you literally never ended up developing normal, healthy adult genitalia.
00:25:00.000Like in the article, that's what they promote.
00:25:03.000There's body dysmorphic disorder, which is where they feel like a part of their body is severely flawed, wants it hidden or fixed.
00:25:11.000And then there's also trans ableism, which is the desire to acquire a disability through choice rather than happenstance.
00:25:17.000There's a website for body integrity dysphoria where people can go and get support to have their legs and limbs removed and it encourages them and... Something's going on with humanity.
00:26:16.000How are you going to be a runner if you don't have any hormones, like, coursing through your body that are building your muscles and your bones and everything?
00:26:23.000And the artificial hormones are not the same.
00:26:47.000And so the end result of this is a eugenicist's wet dream.
00:26:51.000Some people are susceptible to the things that sterilize them or destroy their bodies and some people aren't and the end result is a stronger population.
00:26:57.000Well, Ian, you made a really good point earlier about the fact that there are a lot of young people who are confused because of how confusing the world is today.
00:28:01.000And it says, quote, I remember the Ron Paul era and I didn't agree with a lot of his moral positions, but I did agree with him saying he wants to leave me alone.
00:28:09.000I'll take the guy who's going to leave me alone because we can disagree on everything, but then he agrees to leave me alone.
00:28:16.000And I think it's relevant to a lot of what we're talking about, you know.
00:28:19.000To some extent, though, I mean, as you and I agree, there is some role for the state to step in.
00:28:24.000I would absolutely make it illegal for doctors to remove people's genitals just as it's illegal for them to remove someone's arm or leg if they feel that that shouldn't be attached to their body.
00:28:43.000No, no, I understand, but does that mean the doctor has to provide documentation to the state to verify the cancer?
00:28:48.000No, but in the same way that it would be illegal for a doctor to just cut a healthy person's arm off just because they said they wanted to.
00:28:55.000A doctor can still remove a tumor from somebody's arm.
00:29:02.000Like, what if you go to the doctor and the doctor's like, you have prostate cancer so I'm going to remove your prostate and you'll be impotent for the rest of your life.
00:29:09.000and then you do it and then the doctor was right but then you say you know what i'm suing you
00:29:14.000anyway and i'm gonna file charges saying you cut you you suffered my prostate like is the state
00:29:19.000gonna have to investigate whether it was a legitimate procedure and how do you prove it
00:29:22.000was legitimate unless they like give them the prostate do things like that happen i'm just
00:29:27.000saying like let's say someone goes to the hospital the doctor's like you have skin cancer we got to
00:29:27.000I'm just saying like let's say someone goes to the hospital the doctor is like you have skin cancer
00:29:30.000We got to cut off the skin in your hand then they do and then you're like, oh, I didn't have skin cancer
00:29:31.000cut off the skin in your hand then they do and then you're like oh i didn't have skin cancer
00:29:34.000he lied and cut my skin off he attacked me like what happens i mean i think if it were the case
00:29:34.000He lied and cut my skin off. He attacked me like what happens
00:29:38.000I mean, I think if it were the case that you could prove that a doctor was malicious and lied about you having some
00:29:39.000that you could prove that a doctor was malicious and lied about you having some disease to operate
00:29:43.000disease To operate on you. You would have a lawsuit there. I don't
00:29:46.000know how many medical medical malpractice suits happen over all sorts of stuff all the time
00:29:49.000Yeah, yeah, whether there are cases of a doctor go like deciding they want to remove some part because they're a
00:29:55.000sick person I haven't heard of anything like Janice, but you know
00:29:57.000Yeah, the transgender think exactly the only thing that matters. None of the laws matter. The only thing that
00:30:03.000matters is our culture is sick That's it. Yeah
00:30:06.000This osteopathic medicine, this is kind of invented like a hundred years ago.
00:30:10.000And it's the idea that if you have a sick organ, you cut it out, get rid of it, as opposed to figure out why it's not working right and try and treat the underlying cause.
00:31:05.000Do you think that, uh, do you think some of that is cracked on though?
00:31:07.000Because I have heard stories from people who have said that like on the South side, back in the seventies and eighties, people did bribe cops pretty often.
00:31:14.000Yeah, but it's not really that, uh, bro.
00:31:16.000Not, you know, I hear what you're saying on the level of these other countries, but no, but I'm saying like nowadays, I agree with you that nowadays, like people don't think unless they're at an insanely high level to go like, I'm going to slip this cop a, you know, a 20 and he won't give me a parking ticket or something.
00:31:30.000Whereas I think back in the seventies, that might be more of a common thing.
00:31:32.000Like if you're a rich guy, you don't say to a cop, let me slip you a hundred dollar bill.
00:31:35.000You say, how would you like a job working in the private sector?
00:31:44.000But regardless, my point is, it doesn't matter what the law says.
00:31:50.000So I'm looking at all these precedents on, like... The Civil Rights Act is really fascinating because it does ban the men's room and the women's room outright.
00:32:00.000You cannot discriminate on the basis of sex.
00:32:03.000So how can you maintain a gender-segregated bathroom facility?
00:32:09.000Anybody should be allowed to use them.
00:32:11.000Well, culturally, we are like, oh, but we don't mean that!
00:32:16.000So when they were like, hey, you can't have a white and black bathroom, everyone like, oh, okay, yeah, you should be able to discriminate on the basis of race with bathrooms and national origin and sex and all that stuff.
00:32:27.000And they got rid of the race bathrooms and kept the sex bathrooms.
00:32:31.000So if you went into a woman's bathroom and you're like, my civil rights, and they're like, get the fuck out of there, and you're like, civil rights, they'd be like, okay, we're arresting you for disgruntled behaving in the public or something, but not for... You'd lose.
00:32:42.000So go back in time to when they passed the Civil Rights Act so you can't discriminate.
00:32:45.000As a man walking to a woman's bathroom, you get your ass beat, and then the cops laugh at you, and the judge says, get the fuck out of my courtroom.
00:32:51.000Do it today, and you will win $250,000.
00:33:29.000Even though we don't all agree on quite a lot, when we talk about these cases, I can't think of an instance where there have been like a few here and there, but for the most part, we generally agree on the facts of what happened.
00:33:52.000But I also feel like with you and I, if I tell you a fact or you tell me a fact, even if I don't agree with your view on it, I'll be like, yeah, that's true.
00:34:01.000Whereas I think you make a good point about how on the other side of the aisle there are people that will literally just be like, No, no, actually, um, the, uh, Michael Brown cases, you know, it was a travesty and he did have his hands up and then he said, don't shoot.
00:34:15.000We had Hunter Avalon on the show and he's, and I said, look, Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
00:34:21.000And he went, that never happened, dude.
00:35:39.000I think that becomes more of an issue, but my question is, so would you be okay with someone amputating their arm or leg because they felt that they shouldn't have it?
00:36:09.000They split down the middle and you can actually move it around, it's crazy.
00:36:12.000And if somebody wants to do, there's varying degrees of body modification we accept and don't care about.
00:36:19.000But then amputation is where we're like, whoa, and I've gone too far.
00:36:22.000But yeah, it's like people can live their lives as long as they're hurting other people.
00:36:27.000I'm kind of okay with it when they're going.
00:36:29.000So if someone goes to a child that's grooming them, they're hurting other people.
00:36:33.000You know, if a person wants to dye their skin green or whatever, I'm like... And if someone cuts off their arms and then they make a YouTube video and they're like, I cut off my arms.
00:36:44.000And they have a thousand subscribers that are like 14 year olds.
00:36:47.000They're basically teaching 14 year olds to cut off their arms.
00:36:50.000And especially if what YouTube does is they come in and say anyone who says they regret losing their arms has their channel banned and will delete their videos and don't promote that message.
00:37:11.000I don't think it's good for a person to split their tongue, but that is not going to place you at the same level of culpability for participating in that as like cutting off someone's arm or cutting off someone's genitals.
00:37:41.000People can do all sorts of stuff, but it's like, is it right, though?
00:37:44.000And then the question is, at what point can there be legal consequences under the current paradigm?
00:37:51.000Obviously, that's something which we unfortunately allow, but I wonder if it could be the case that years from now people will say, look, I had a mental illness.
00:37:58.000And you performed a surgery on me that I only said I wanted because I was sick and you were the doctor.
00:38:04.000It was your responsibility to help me and instead you sliced my genitalia up into being completely unable to ever function again.
00:38:11.000Have you considered suing Planned Parenthood?
00:38:43.000I mean, yeah, I've been talking to a lawyer, but it's, yeah, it's... I don't have any... I'm saying that I don't have any, like, concrete plans.
00:38:49.000Yeah, maybe we shouldn't talk too much about it.
00:38:52.000So, if you're declared mentally incompetent, contracts are void.
00:38:56.000I wonder if depression could qualify, but I wonder if you could make it voidable.
00:39:04.000It has long been established that a contract is voidable by a person who, due to mental illness or defect, lacked the capacity to contract at the time of entering into the agreement.
00:39:11.000I'd argue that you were severely depressed, and that they exploited you to take money from you and give you a treatment without proper medical care, and the liability waiver is void because Yeah.
00:39:59.000Well, it wouldn't, I mean, right, it's political, so they'd want to do everything, for a lot of people it would be like, this is a vector to dealing with abortion.