Biden mocks Second Amendment supporters, says you need an F-16 to take on the government. Biden has repeatedly mocked the Second Amendment, and now Gavin Newsom is on the show to explain why he thinks we should expand it.
00:01:01.000You need something else than an AR-15.
00:01:05.000Now, we're also here with, joined with Ron Coleman, who is going to be on the main show tomorrow night, the featured guest, but he happened to be in town, so he brought him in.
00:01:15.000A federal litigator, as we've said before.
00:01:45.000First of all, About the Second Amendment saying you can't have these things.
00:01:48.000The idea of him teaching law school is even more terrifying than the idea of his interpretation of the Second Amendment.
00:01:55.000What you read, Jack, makes it sound as if he seems to think that the F-16 provision of the Constitution, that the Second Amendment Says you can't have a cannon!
00:02:11.000There was a merchant who had a ship with cannons on it and he wrote a letter asking one of the founders if he could have them and he said, yes, you can!
00:02:19.000But there's also no list of what weapons you can have and can't have in the Second Amendment.
00:02:25.000If he means to say that from the very beginning there were regulations and there was a limit, then I'd like to know Well, he got that also, but he sure as hell didn't get it in the Constitution.
00:02:35.000Also, if Biden is correct and it would be impossible for the American people to fight an effective insurgency against a tyrannical government without F-16s, what he's saying is we need to expand the Second Amendment to allow average Americans to own F-16s because the entire purpose of the Second Amendment is for people to be able to fight back against tyranny.
00:02:52.000I don't think we actually need F-16s to fight tyranny if it comes to that.
00:02:56.000But I understand that there is a program being considered now by the federal government to provide each new undocumented immigrant with an F-16.
00:03:43.000We were kind of talking about that, right?
00:03:45.000Yeah, I was going to go back to you on that.
00:03:46.000I was going to go back to you on that.
00:03:48.000Do you think, you know, I mean, you're there in California.
00:03:51.000Do you think, here's my read on it, that Newsom is, he's not willing to do the RFK thing and say, I'm going to primary a sitting president, but he's sort of waving his hand saying, You know, I'm here.
00:04:20.000I actually have a really good scenario for this.
00:04:26.000Not for us, of course, but just the best case scenario for that is that Gavin Newsom is doing what, in my opinion, Ron DeSantis should have done.
00:04:36.000He should have been like, I'm waiting my turn, if you guys need me, you know, etc.
00:04:41.000But of course, Ron DeSantis decided to run, and I think he shot himself in the foot for any potential real scenario for 2028.
00:04:50.000I think the DNC is scared about what's happening with Donald Trump and the indictments and what they are doing.
00:04:56.000I think if you are a common sense person, you understand that what they're doing to Donald Trump is because you're pulling out all the stops to stop this guy.
00:05:03.000And I think that the DNC is willing to even sacrifice one of their own, and it's going to be Joe Biden.
00:05:09.000It's going to come at this charisma trial.
00:05:11.000You think they need like a stronger guy to come in?
00:05:13.000Well, that's what I thought they were doing in 2020 though.
00:05:14.000I thought they were trying to find a burner candidate because they didn't think they had it.
00:05:19.000Well, Joe Biden's already in the inside.
00:05:20.000He's got a lot of political connections.
00:05:34.000So I feel like I put a piece to the puzzle.
00:05:37.000One of the reasons, and I heard this on The Five, on Fox News, and it was a Democrat talking, and she was saying, there's no possible real scenario where the black community is going to accept that Kamala Harris is not going to be next in line if they were to get rid of Joe Biden.
00:07:05.000But the thing is, is that if you sell Democrats a Biden Kamala, it's already pretty unfavorable.
00:07:11.000But if you give them Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama, I'm telling you because I hear it from people all the time.
00:07:18.000One thing about people in California is People that show up for the community are the people that matter to them.
00:07:25.000I'll be honest, even sometimes podcasts are just not effective because people in the inner city, they're not... Who's this guy talking about?
00:07:33.000Ron's sitting here, Ron's sitting here looking at me like, cut this guy's mic!
00:07:36.000What do you mean podcasts aren't effective?
00:07:48.000I'm just saying, the people that show up, the people that knock on doors, the people that show their faces, look, Republicans are not known.
00:07:55.000Well, Republicans are not known for coming up to show up to these inner-city places.
00:08:11.000I think, to both of your points, I think that one of the reasons that they have invested so heavily, and we're going to get back to the F-16s, don't worry, but one of the reasons that they've invested so heavily in these ballot operations that they've switched the Format that which we hold elections they we've gone from the the civic community ritual of an election day where people go out when I remember going with my father to the local middle school in the gymnasium and you're waiting in line you had the actual levers and you knew the people that was the original voter ID
00:08:46.000The original voter ID election integrity was that you knew the people working the polls.
00:08:49.000They said, Hey John, how's your boy Jack?
00:09:10.000And a ballot is if you can just get anybody To fill out one of those ballots, and then you're paying people to go door-to-door with these ballots in targeted neighborhoods.
00:09:18.000That is why they've switched all this, because in order to do that, look, now you're just paying for votes.
00:09:24.000I find it morally repugnant, but you know what?
00:09:43.000Speaking of machines, I do want to get into the more salacious topic at hand of the question of an insurgency in the United States against the U.S.
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00:12:05.000So you have to definitely look at authority as As a lawyer, I cannot speak quite as freely as some other people around this table might.
00:12:14.000Even, you know, even in closed sessions such as we are right, you know, today.
00:12:18.000But point being is you've seen, we've seen, we've all seen the ability of police and I say this as someone who, and to your point that, you know, I don't think we can get rid of this system.
00:12:30.000I think we should take over the system.
00:12:33.000And use it for our own design, our own purposes.
00:12:35.000Because I generally think that this idea of, oh, just run off into the hinterlands and they'll leave us alone, it's just such a losing argument.
00:13:19.000Actually, if you look at my current, you know, from your friends at the SPLC, I believe their current, their current, how many, you're suing them how many times right now?
00:13:42.000I want that on my cards if I had cards.
00:13:45.000They called you based in monarchy pills?
00:13:48.000So what Biden's talking about is an actual insurgency against the United States military.
00:14:01.000And I'm going to come out and play devil's advocate here to an extent and say, look, I know there's a lot of people that say, hey man, 2A, let's go, let's roll, let's do it.
00:14:12.000I just don't think that wide swaths of the country are conducive to an insurgency against the U.S.
00:14:37.000So you would have areas like Appalachia, which would be potentially, you know, sort of like a readout, right, if you will.
00:14:44.000It's kind of like, like there are areas like, well there are areas, like this is why insurgencies were, that the geographies of Vietnam, the geography of Afghanistan, so jungles, mountains, desert, that were conducive, well mountainous desert, were conducive to insurgency.
00:15:01.000Whereas Southern Columbia has a huge rebel problem because it's just dense juggle, canopies.
00:15:09.000Actually they have to go into rebel areas because one of the girls that they're tracking was actually sold to the rebels and they realized that she's not even with the original group of pedophiles, that they sold her out to the rebel group so they've got to go into like FARC and all this.
00:15:59.000All we did, I mean, there's literally Meemaw carrying an American flag and that was condemned by people like Ted Cruz out of Texas saying that we are domestic terrorists for going in the Capitol.
00:16:10.000To this day, I have never condemned what happened on January 6th.
00:16:24.000George Washington comes up to you and says like, hey man, we're going to go kill men with families, military men with families, Christians, many of whom you know, because of taxes, and we're going to kill them, and we're going to start our own country.
00:16:37.000We're gonna go kill Christian men, or claim to be at least, right?
00:16:41.000But that's not how the revolution started.
00:16:45.000George didn't just go around to people and say, hey guys, let's go do this.
00:16:50.000There was a constitutional convention, there were delegates, there were chosen leaders who came to the state house and Philadelphia, which later we came in.
00:16:59.000But at the end of the day, it came down to who?
00:17:03.000Like, Ray Absolute was saying, let's go into the Capitol, and all the protesters there were saying, you're a Fed, get out of here, anyone who's telling us to go to the Capitol.
00:17:09.000Did you see the memes they made from LA, where they put my face, and then, I think it was Grand Old Memes made it, where he put Ray Absolute here, he said, we need to go into Dodger Stadium.
00:17:31.000But the people who pushed for the breach were Feds.
00:17:34.000Like Ray Epps was the first guy who breached a barrier.
00:17:37.000But at the end of the day, they were not Feds.
00:17:40.000No, a lot of people, the doors were open for them and they were let in, but they didn't even, there were a lot of people who didn't even realize that they weren't allowed to be there.
00:17:46.000Right, exactly, and that's what I'm saying.
00:18:15.000In other words, not set peace battles, and not even insurrection battles as we know them, you know, choose your Disastrous American attempt to deal with insurgencies of your choice, but there's all sorts of alternate history novels about this and From the second look what if the Confederacy took over states and continued exactly.
00:18:43.000I mean you you you can make it costly and But the problem is, as you point out, Jack, people don't really appreciate, and Biden, or whoever was whispering into his earpiece at that moment, is right about this.
00:20:36.000That's why if you go to Poland now, I had a friend who just, we used to work together and said, hey, you know, we're going to Poland with some people, where should I go in Warsaw?
00:20:47.000And honestly, as You know, as sad as it is, you know, and there's great memorials, there's great museums.
00:20:55.000The old city of Warsaw, Warszawa, is like this tiny little district of the city because most of it was destroyed in the war and then rebuilt by the Soviets.
00:21:06.000So it's, you know, it's like Soviet block housing.
00:21:08.000You mentioned Vietnam and how the jungle was... Whereas Krakow, on the other hand, is gorgeous.
00:21:13.000How mountains and jungles were conducive to insurgencies, but now with air power, not only was the surface being napalmed to hell in Vietnam, the Viet Cong were trying to fight with Russian and Chinese weapons, they were living underground for like 10 years in tunnels.
00:21:26.000So unless people are willing to live underground, it's not on the radar, and even then you're gonna lose.
00:21:31.000So hold on, I have to, because we've heard a lot of pro-arguments and I haven't had a chance to make the anti-argument.
00:21:39.000I disagree with you guys because you were pro-communism arguments by saying that the people could not be effective in an insurgency.
00:21:48.000So I think the problem is, and by the way, at scale, so here's what I'll say.
00:21:54.000I want to make clear, and I don't think that you guys think this, but I think what a lot of people believe about a potential second American revolution or an insurgency where people are fighting the government is they picture this as an open conflict where the Americans are on one side with their ARs and the government is on the other side with their M4s and their tanks.
00:22:19.000But what would happen is they would take over certain cities, and then you would have insurgents who would basically go around and have these small skirmishes in battle.
00:22:28.000And again, I'm not saying I advocate for this under a just war framework, but you'd have people climbing up to towers and just sniping soldiers on street corners.
00:22:36.000To be clear, we are responding to what Joe Biden said today.
00:22:40.000There's two things with what Joe Biden said.
00:22:42.000We're not advocating for any of these No, no, no, of course not, of course not.
00:22:45.000But what I'm saying is, firstly, it is a little bit strange that Joe Biden has repeatedly threatened the American people with military power.
00:22:55.000Sounds like something a fascist would do, right?
00:22:58.000Locking up his political opponent while he threatens the American people with military force and tells them they're powerless against him.
00:23:06.000I'll also say that Different parts of the country would obviously fare differently.
00:23:10.000Something that could happen is rival nations who don't necessarily agree with the cause of the insurgents could start to fund the rebel groups who are fighting the U.S.
00:23:20.000Maybe even a very large rival nation that is actually on the decline.
00:23:27.000But what but but it remains and always has been extremely opportunistic and would and could see nothing about or maybe even to maybe to actually maybe one real communist nation and one de facto communist nation, I mean There's a gigantic IOU coming from the Russians whether Putin would be around by the time this is true But but China what an opportunity like you said, they wouldn't have to be the least bit sympathetic.
00:23:55.000Here's to the revolutionaries. Here's how I think it would shake
00:23:58.000out. Can I just make one more point before, I just want to make one more point, which is, it's not,
00:24:01.000before I, before I denounce this, it's not just a question of how, how effective or
00:24:06.000victorious it would be. I think that there, that is an important question, but there's also a question
00:24:10.000of how difficult, there's also a question of how difficult do you make it for the tyrants, right?
00:24:14.000Because they have drones, they have bombs.
00:24:16.000Ladies and gentlemen, he's just saying what I said with a lot more words.
00:24:20.000Hold on, because you guys, you guys, you want to total up the number of words you guys said and compare it to what I'm saying.
00:24:24.000I'm happy to, but what I will add is that people, I mean, people on the ground, so I've spoken to people and I have friends who are in Iraq and Afghanistan and one thing I remember them saying that really stuck with me is in Afghanistan there was a sniper who was picking people off and they were terrified and it made them not want to do their job and they didn't say oh well I was comforted because we have drones and because we have nukes and because we have tanks they said I was terrified I didn't want to do my job.
00:24:50.000The goal of an insurgency is to get the soldiers to want to leave and for the people who are actually on the ground there to abdicate and refuse to fight in that area.
00:24:59.000I will tell you that during I remember Solzhenitsyn yes and I do remember Solzhenitsyn Saying, you can't really think the Russians are going to ever leave Afghanistan, do you?
00:25:09.000The Russians aren't like the Americans.
00:25:11.000They will just keep pouring death on the Afghanis.
00:25:18.000Because that is what the power, in the right terrain, with the right motivation... By the way, Afghanistan has a history of being unconquerable to everyone.
00:25:30.000And someone in the chat actually just said, and I'm kind of like scrolling through some of it, but someone just said, look, I think realistically 90% of people would just, you know, 90% of the country would fold if the government takes the money, the food, shuts down the internet.
00:25:46.000And that was a point I was actually trying to make.
00:25:48.000Dude, the government doesn't have to threaten you with F-15s, you know, and they proved this during the pandemic.
00:25:52.000You know what they have to threaten you with?
00:26:55.000No, but look man, you threaten a man and his family to turn off his water and you're not able to shop at the grocery store until you turn in those guns or whatever.
00:27:04.000I'm telling you, 90% plus of people, even those hardcore... It's not only turning those guns, it's tell me who bought guns on the street.
00:27:33.000And that's where, and they kill him and they shoot him.
00:27:36.000And look, maybe, I don't know where you all like were originally doing a pandemic, but you guys got to remember, man, I was in Los Angeles.
00:28:13.000But what I'm saying is... You can destabilize and you can make them... See, the real question, I think, is can you hit a breaking point?
00:28:22.000Can you hit a point where they would actually, notwithstanding that they would say, we're never going to negotiate, we're never going to compromise, can you impose costs on them that would require them to however Disguised it might be, have to compromise.
00:28:49.000I'm curious, why do you guys think they have the gun control?
00:28:51.000Because here's what's really gonna happen is that they've realized that, like Gavin Newsom says that about the 29th, We're going to bring the 29th amendment and it's going to be great, Sean.
00:31:03.000We're going to turn these people and the infrastructure, financial, cultural, economic, industrial, that supports them, pay to be associated with our political enemies.
00:31:17.000And that's why I was bringing it up earlier where it's like, you know, uh, Rittenhouse, I think he got a fair deal because he had good representation.
00:31:24.000I think he had a good, fair judge that saw the facts and was like, look, there's just not enough evidence here.
00:32:16.000I'm not going to, I'm not, imagine like watching an innocent girl get brutally raped or, or, or more violent or whatever the case might be.
00:32:23.000And you're like, well, I'm in a blue district.
00:32:25.000I better not interfere because I fear prison.
00:32:48.000Anthony, because he follows me, he's like, Anthony, you got a family.
00:32:50.000Why don't you think about your children?
00:32:52.000So you want to be this virtuous Christian guy and sit in prison?
00:32:56.000If Mike were there, he would do the right thing.
00:32:57.000I'm sure, but the problem is that a lot of these followers, including the ones that follow like Kattred and all that stuff, they see these statements, they hear these people saying, this is why you never do what's right, because you are punished for it.
00:33:10.000But look, going back to... What are you living for?
00:33:42.000Nobody votes for more murder, but they don't... I mean, if you vote John Krasny... You vote... Why does Larry Krasny keep getting elected in Philadelphia?
00:33:49.000Right, I understand that, but what I'm saying is the average person, the average city dweller... I'm telling you, man, because I speak with these people all the time.
00:33:57.000When Roe v. Wade happened, there were street vendors there, Hispanic, barely any English, but they were selling to the crowd.
00:34:36.000We've seen this time and time again, where this George W. Bush had this whole thing about like, Oh, The more immigrants we bring from traditionally socially conservative areas, they're natural conservatives.
00:36:32.000But, Jack, I actually thought the trend on Hispanic votes was slowly trending towards It does, and historically it's always been at least 30%.
00:36:43.000I'm going to hold Florida out as a very special case because you get Cubans that do go to Florida, but Hispanics, and I'm not going to speak of Hispanics, but the idea is that Hispanics are a monolith.
00:36:56.000It's like, oh, all Hispanics are the same.
00:37:03.000Yeah, it's not going to go well for you.
00:37:04.000But that's the thing is that if you're going to be in the community like I am, you have to understand, okay, well, what are your problems, right?
00:37:11.000So one example, crime is really high right now, right, in Los Angeles.
00:37:15.000No one's arguing that and, you know, inadvertently, yes, people are voting for those policies because like, hey, if you vote down gun rights, you're voting for more crime.
00:37:57.000Why aren't you gathering up all these street vendors and saying, you know what's better than getting attacked and getting a GoFundMe for $8,000 at a time?
00:38:05.000How about we train you and we have you have your constitutional right to a gun?
00:38:23.000So the argument is going to be like, well, we're not just going to give them like guns, like we're against guns.
00:38:27.000So then your argument as a Republican should be like, so you are saying that these immigrants that are hardworking are not entitled to Second Amendment constitutional rights.
00:38:36.000That's what they said about the Koreans.
00:39:25.000But it's also an issue with Republicans that made it more purpular, as I like to say, in some of these states.
00:39:31.000Because like, I'll go to Phoenix, right?
00:39:33.000So when I go to see Turning Point, when I go to do work out of there, I was there last week, so I was in Phoenix for a couple of days before I went out to LA, because it's like a quicker flight, so we do the show out of there.
00:39:43.000And you go to Phoenix airport and you're surrounded by California people.
00:39:48.000It's like, you could just tell it's culturally Californian.
00:40:30.000A Tennessean told me today, because somebody's moving to Tennessee from California.
00:40:34.000A lot of people in California are moving to Tennessee.
00:40:37.000You know what they told me the problem is?
00:40:38.000The problem is, like, I've lived in Tennessee for generations.
00:40:42.000The problem with Blue Staters, specifically California, is that they've lived under democratic rule for so long, they don't know anything else.
00:40:49.000So they come to Tennessee, where we have these neocons trying to strip away gun rights in Tennessee, and you know what the response is from Blue Staters?
00:40:57.000It's like, Yeah, but my state was way worse.
00:43:17.000I think the issue is that the device here is... So yesterday everyone that was watching, we had to switch to this computer in order to do the premiere for the What was it called? Something money? Yeah, game of money.
00:44:14.000We just did one with the squat presser.
00:44:15.000Before that, I had been doing them for several years now.
00:44:18.000So you have to actually get into the community.
00:44:19.000So the way you fight back is you inform people.
00:44:21.000So we make little pamphlets that we hand out to people because everyone's always curious.
00:44:25.000Like, who are these 30 young gentlemen or young people that are out cleaning the streets?
00:44:29.000Streets that have been, you know, basically abandoned by the politicians.
00:44:32.000Now when you say clean the streets, do you mean like physically clean?
00:44:36.000Or do you mean like peaky blinders or, or, you know, taxi driver, you know, some, someday a hard rain's going to come and wash all this filth off the streets.
00:44:47.000There's a lot of people that have lived there for decades and they're so old that you just can't take care of their homes.
00:44:51.000So like we do like, uh, gardening on their stuff, you know?
00:46:46.000Yeah, everything is working as it should be.
00:46:48.000When they talk in Discord, do you see it going up and down in OBS?
00:46:51.000Uh, no, there's no, the thing about, it's, it's, when they're, when they're speaking in Discord here, I mean, we'll just troubleshoot really fast, I can see their name, if Aqueduct Studio, would you mind saying something quickly for me?
00:47:01.000It's prompting right there, and it's prompting also up here on the actual screen, as you guys can see, but for some reason, it's just not, uh, I mean, I can try and reset the defaults, I guess, but then I'd have to go and do a whole bunch of other things as well.
00:47:14.000Worst case scenario, we could take some text, Yeah, I guess we could take the text questions if you guys want to.
00:48:22.000There's a community in New York City Orthodox Jewish community, which is an object lesson in many respects for how you can stay in the city, how you can build institutions, how you can actually flourish in the city.
00:48:37.000And the attack on the Orthodox Jewish schools in New York is a multi-pronged attack based on the threat that their success poses Symbolically and otherwise to many, many institutions that are vested in the existing system.
00:49:01.000Your street-level advocacy, your building of the necessary communal structures, Is difficult to divorce from the very deeply entrenched welfare state.
00:49:37.000The government is so intrusive and so omnipresent in the lives, especially of lower income people, that they will use, they, the existing system, will put the squeeze and also communal leaders We'll put the squeeze on the people they consider to be their constituents.
00:49:59.000Jewish organizations, Orthodox Jewish organizations in New York have been very reluctant, and understandably, because of how the elections always come out no matter what.
00:50:09.000Trump took 90% of the Orthodox Jewish vote, including in New York City.
00:50:15.000And also, the Republican pickups in the House are largely a result of Orthodox Jewish voting in New York State.
00:50:24.000But, at the end of the day, the government structures, the local government structures, are still controlled by Democrats, and that's a really risky strategy, because if your community is perceived as bucking the Democratic leadership, you have a lot to lose.
00:50:41.000So that has to be taken into consideration as well.
00:51:06.000The messenger reported that three sources are saying there's an evacuation plan for Taiwan.
00:51:12.000And I wanted to know if you think that China sees Taiwan as a target it can take as early as this year?
00:51:19.000And a separate question from that would be if you think China invading Taiwan would help or hurt Trump in 2024?
00:51:25.000Yeah, so there's a couple pieces to this.
00:51:28.000From what I've been told is that what they're referring to is this evacuation plan for not all of Taiwan, that's for American citizens or AMCETs within Taiwan.
00:51:38.000What they're talking about is a NEO, a noncombatant evacuation operation.
00:51:42.000These are the type of things that, quite frankly, for various hotspots in the world, the United States Navy, United States embassies, are always tasked with being worked on.
00:51:53.000So these logistics, that includes hospitals, that includes embarkation sites.
00:51:57.000If you've got a place like, for example, Ukraine would have gone through this in the final days.
00:52:02.000That being said, just because they're working on the plan doesn't necessarily mean that there's intel out there that says something like this is imminent.
00:52:10.000I particularly don't necessarily say that I think it's imminent because I think Xi Jinping is in a very strong position right now.
00:52:17.000He wants to take Taiwan by osmosis through cultural and generational force.
00:52:22.000And I've said before a million times, and we have a whole thing called the China files, Which just set up the China files meme that you guys can go and like share It's a little red meme the way Mao had the little red book and it's got a QR code where you can watch them All and so I go really in-depth and there's a whole chapter all just on Taiwan where I said look, you know I think the only thing that would trigger a Taiwan Invasion would be if Xi Jinping were threatened internally within the party, but he just doesn't have internal threats, right?
00:52:46.000Not anymore Because well, no not anymore because he didn't there.
00:52:50.000They've all been disappeared Yes, Shanghai gang, the youth league gang as well.
00:53:08.000So for them to make a push like that, a huge obvious breach, especially when they've been
00:53:14.000publicly somewhat, remember, originally they were negative
00:53:20.000towards Russia in terms of launching a war of regression into U.S.
00:53:26.000Ukraine and then eventually they you know, they sided with Russia, but you know, I don't necessarily think that That China was would be willing to take a step like that unless Xi Jinping were extremely forced that being said if Taiwan were to Declare independence or our push for some kind of military retaking of some of the outlying islands or any number of things a naval Dust-up that turns into another conflagration a trap sub if you will From one of these I disputed islands where a group of activists goes in I mean there are there are many things that could flash this up and I guess to your last question would this help or hurt Trump?
00:54:21.000But at the same time, you know, his son is taking so much money from him.
00:54:28.000Anthony Blinken goes over there like a clerk, kowtowing, making these, which by the way, going beyond the typical one China policy, the one China policy, which goes back to the Shanghai communique, Of saying that the United States believes that Taiwan and China, the People's Republic of China, are both part of one entity, which is a very vague kind of status quo statement that every president has gone back on, including Reagan, going all the way back to Carter.
00:54:57.000And it starts off with Nixon, of course, going to China.
00:55:00.000that now actually saying we do like unequivocally saying we do not support Taiwanese independence
00:55:07.000is is beyond the typical one China statement and I think that's there's a reason for that
00:55:12.000and the reason is that you know they're being told to say it. True. It's a great question though,
00:57:38.000Being from Singapore, I got so much things I want to talk about guns, but I'll stick true to my question.
00:57:43.000So as for the Catholics in the room, what are your view about the current Pope's position about being more LGBTQ friendly?
00:57:49.000And how does it affect the Catholics in that regard?
00:57:54.000And also, as you guys are generally more in favour of states' rights and decentralisation, does that not also contradict with the centralisation that you see in capitalism?
00:58:06.000So yeah, there's a few ways to answer that.
00:58:07.000I'll give my answer, and then Tim can also let you know how he feels, because I know he's been studying Catholicism a bit recently, but basically... Well, you don't want to hear from the Protestants?
00:58:30.000With Pope Francis, this is an important thing for people to understand.
00:58:33.000Papal infallibility does not mean the Pope is correct in every single thing he says.
00:58:37.000It means that when the Pope speaks ex cathedra, when he's invoking his authority as Pope to declare on a specific moral question where he literally says that he's basically... Wait, and Seamus, breakdown.
00:58:48.000How many times has that actually happened?
00:58:50.000There's some debate about that, but it's been very infrequent.
00:59:57.000A Pope could not come along and say, we've changed church teaching on this.
01:00:00.000Go to, but I think the deeper question there is this, this comes to Francis's embrace of synodism, synod, these synods, where, you know, it's where it's, it's, it's, it's the Hegelian thing again, right?
01:00:18.000We're gonna go dialogue. We're gonna bring a dialectic together. We're gonna remove the
01:00:23.000the the hierarchical view we're gonna remove the historical view traditional view the legalistic view the
01:00:30.000doctrinal view of the church and instead just you know, bring a bunch of people, you know, just
01:00:34.000You know kind of bring a couple of people together the Vatican a little bit of a party
01:00:38.000Shakes out, you know cuz I I just got some I I wanted to double check on this.
01:00:45.000I got a more precise delineation of the qualifications for an ex cathedra statement from EWTN here.
01:02:05.000Like, like you're saying that like, not everything is taken, you know, whatever.
01:02:08.000But I'm like, dude, I know some Catholics that are like, I post it sometimes on my stories, like something that the Pope does or something that he says or whatever, and then the Catholics come after me and they're like, oh dude, don't question the descendant of Peter, like he disguised the Pope.
01:02:22.000And I'm like, I just think it was a wrong opinion.
01:02:24.000That's a big sentiment within the Church.
01:02:30.000I guess the answer to the other question, by the way, that Kwanye was asking about states' rights versus hierarchicalism within the church is, you know, obviously we're talking about a political system of government within the United States tradition of, obviously we're still operating under the Constitution and arguably Uh, we can argue we can debate about how much we actually use the constitution anymore So we're we're operating with that versus a religious Tradition in a church that catholics believe was founded by jesus christ.
01:03:02.000Yeah, and and also mention this the the church is so I actually believe in decentralization for the same reason that I'm Catholic, actually.
01:03:12.000There's a principle called subsidiarity, and you see this in the structure of the church.
01:03:16.000Basically, if something can be handled by the most local possible authority, it should be handled by the most local possible authority.
01:03:24.000You're only supposed to go up that chain of command if you found a problem that you literally could not solve at the local level.
01:03:32.000The Pope is giving orders all the time.
01:03:36.000When the church was most influential in world affairs, there was a French church, there was an English church, there was a Spanish church, and they were very different, and they were understood to be different, and their relationship with their respective states was very different.
01:03:55.000So in Spain it was extraordinarily well integrated.
01:04:20.000No, but just my understanding as a student of history, not obviously as someone with
01:04:24.000a Catholic education, but is that, as Jack says, there has always been an understanding
01:04:28.000that prelates of different parts of the world had a responsibility to be appropriately sympathetic
01:04:44.000and appropriately culturally tied into what makes sense for that place, but also what
01:04:49.000the relationship is with other institutions and other cultural phenomena and social phenomena.
01:04:55.000Yeah, and so to be clear, like, the fundamental moral teachings are still the same there.
01:04:59.000It's not like in the Spanish Catholic Church now adultery was okay or something.
01:05:02.000I mean, in Italy, I'm sure they push for that, right?
01:05:05.000Overall, you're right, when it came to the cultural customs, when it came to what do we enforce here, it did vary based on the country we're in.
01:05:17.000Of course we just mean for now, because eventually.
01:05:50.000And in that sense, I guess if we all feel that the Pope is, believes in something that's
01:05:56.000in contradiction to the doctrine, would there not be a process that you can, I don't know
01:06:01.000what's the equivalent of impeachment of the Pope, to get him off the position?
01:06:05.000So this is also important, when you're saying the Pope believes something that's in conflict with church teaching, you have to point to something specific there, and this is something I encourage people to be very careful about.
01:06:15.000I think the Pope has said certain things that could be argued to be on the border of that, but as far as I'm aware, the Pope has not openly said anything that actually expressly contradicts church teaching, except for one statement that he made about God willing all religions, which they ended up actually walking back.
01:06:32.000So, a lot of times they play games, they say like, well, they talk about the translations,
01:06:36.000and they get liberal, and yeah, stuff like that.
01:06:39.000So this is one area where I'll say, I'll give you an example of this, right?
01:06:44.000So when Pope Francis first came to his position, I was seeing all these news articles.
01:06:51.000Catholic Church no longer believes in hell.
01:06:53.000The Catholic Church has stopped teaching about hell.
01:07:00.000Pope Francis, while on, you know, an airplane or something, being asked a question by a journalist, said that he doesn't think hell is a literal place.
01:07:08.000He just thinks it's a state of the soul.
01:07:10.000Now, that is not something Catholics are required to believe, because he wasn't making an ex-Catholic statement, but that's also something Catholics have been allowed to believe, historically, and It didn't affect church teaching at all, and he also wasn't saying hell doesn't exist.
01:07:23.000So you have to be careful, because the media will take his statements and turn them into something completely different than what he ever said.
01:07:29.000This is a pope who's called gender theory demonic, who's called abortionists hit men.
01:07:33.000I mean, he's more conservative than people think, though there are things he says which, once again, really concern me.
01:07:38.000Kwani, I really appreciate the question.
01:07:42.000I mean, we could do an entire other episode on this.
01:07:44.000Yeah, you get these Catholics talking and they'll just keep going.
01:07:47.000And the Latin version of this discussion is going to be really amazing.
01:07:50.000Yeah, the Latin version of this discussion is available on AudioBury2.
01:10:28.000Well, the reason I'm asking is because I'm a young man myself, 28 years old, currently doing plumbing, traveling across the country doing that, but I feel like I'm being pulled to do something of greater value, including possibly still enlisting in the military at my advanced age.
01:10:46.000But it's just trying to figure out what pathway would be the most effective and most beneficial, not only to myself, but to my community and my country.
01:11:01.000I would actually tell you that as a person who's not young and not a plumber, that even if I were appointed, I can think of almost nothing worse spiritually for a person than going through the process of trying to become elected To any sub- like any kind of national office. I think it's
01:11:18.000just absolutely soul-murdering But if you up if you were to tell me that I could be
01:11:23.000appointed and not only to Congress but the United States Senate
01:11:26.000I still don't even know if I would take it. It is such an ugly
01:11:30.000Hopeless system, you know, it'd be actually I would do it and just get a lot of money
01:11:34.000You know what? I would be cool though But he's already a plumber!
01:11:38.000No, no, no, let me throw this out there, because obviously, look, obviously you, look, you're here on Discord, you're talking to us, you clearly have an interest in podcasts, you know, why not start, like, the plumbing channel, like, become, like, the plumbing guy?
01:11:54.000You're doing a podcast, you're on the road, you're talking about stuff, you're talking about the people you meet, maybe you're not given the perfect, you know, like, Yeah, I bet if you got a scope camera and then every once in a while you work in like, oh, this was in their drain and the code in this area is bad.
01:12:09.000And that's why we need something like this.
01:12:11.000You could literally put a camera on a, on a scope, like a snake and show people what's coming out of it.
01:12:17.000No, I actually, I agree with you because you have so many influencers who will talk about the glamour of their useless job.
01:12:24.000I think it would be very interesting to have somebody who's doing something really useful show people how it's done and show people what the lifestyle is like, especially because you're traveling, dude.
01:12:34.000He never said he likes being a plumber, though.
01:12:36.000My brother's a woodworker and he does this all the time.
01:12:41.000He'll post, uh, you know, he's a worker and he does other stuff.
01:12:45.000Um, and you know, he'll post, uh, videos from job sites talking about what he's doing and then he'll work in like something else that's going on.
01:12:54.000But he's, he's a really popular Australian, uh, guy who actually just mows lawns.
01:12:58.000I don't know if you guys have seen him.
01:13:22.000...communities that could use having their, you know, having their property value brought up just a little bit just to look nicer.
01:13:28.000I mean, even if it doesn't do anything for them, it makes them feel better that they're living in a clean home instead of, you know, some place that's got mold on the outside and uh bacteria growing on the roof and everything like that but as far as uh as far as all that goes it's all great but uh i really do think that we need people um with good hearts and uh good ideas on policies to run for office even though it is a soul crushing and you're absolutely you're right because at the end of the day we do need we need those seats to be filled with our guys
01:13:58.000But the one thing I would say to you, man, is, uh, you know, I was in nursing school, uh, myself when I left the military, I still wanted to be, you know, civil servant to people and help out my community.
01:14:08.000She's like, look in California, if you become a nurse, you can afford to live out here.
01:14:12.000Um, and so I went to nursing school and it was there that I kind of developed this passion for politics.
01:14:17.000Cause I was talking to a bunch of college age students, a lot of them, Bernie Sanders, socialists, et cetera.
01:14:21.000And I got involved into politics and you know, you're talking about which is the most important, First and foremost, man, I don't know if you're a man of God or if you have faith or what your faith is and beliefs.
01:14:33.000You gotta kneel down and you gotta say, God, what is your purpose for me?
01:14:38.000And what I will say is, even at the local level, brother, your school board, Your city supervisors, your board of supervisors, your city council is going to make a bigger impact on your day-to-day life and of your children and of your, I don't know if you have kids or if you're married, but either way, even if you're planning on it, these people will have a bigger impact on your community and your day-to-day life than a president potentially could.
01:15:02.000And that's kind of like the hope that I give to Californians.
01:15:05.000It's like, look, I live in one of the most conservative areas in my area.
01:15:09.000In California, believe it or not, the city that I live in, I'm not going to mention it, but it's one of the safest cities in the entire nation.
01:15:15.000And it's in Los Angeles County, but of course people focus on the negative.
01:15:19.000But you have talents, you have things.
01:15:21.000What I would recommend, something that we do at the local level in Los Angeles, is we have meetups for young Republicans.
01:15:27.000You're 28, I'm 35, Young Republicans is an organization from 18 to 40.
01:15:32.000Every once in a while, we will have a meetup and you talk about what you do and if other people might be interested in your services.
01:15:39.000Brother, let me tell you, man, it's one of the best ways to network because people are actively seeking, well, especially now with the parallel economy, If you don't already list your business on Public Square, this is not a paid ad or anything like that, and more conservatives will find you.
01:15:54.000And so if you're looking to get involved politically, at the very least you can do it hyper-local and be like, how can I help one school board member be from Democrat to Republican?
01:16:09.000And I'm telling you, we have community cleanups in Los Angeles, and we have gardeners that come to the Republican meetups and they're like, hey, I know how to mow lawns.
01:16:18.000Can we just mow someone's lawn in the community?
01:18:21.000Hey, so a lot of my question, my question actually is for Anthony, and he kind of answered a lot of it in the last one, so I'll make it quick.
01:18:28.000I'm big into local politics in Florida.
01:18:31.000I actually ran a campaign, grassroots, and got one of my clients elected against an incumbent to the school board, and she actually didn't receive the governor's endorsement, but we did it, and we got, you know, conservative majority.
01:18:43.000So, and I did it all while reading my Bible.
01:19:16.000He was a former sheriff for Duval County and he actually voted present in the shift vote today and also I've been huge and I've been you know we have we see all the moms and everything showing up to school board meetings and I've been begging dads and men even if you're not a dad just men to show up to school board meetings because it that's when change happens because that's when they notice that people are upset.
01:19:38.000So what is What is your advice on this?
01:19:43.000A lot of times I hear, oh, well, I have grandkids, or oh, I don't have kids.
01:19:47.000What is your advice to men about getting behind these movements?
01:19:51.000Well, first and foremost, as a Christian man, I think it's the duty of every man.
01:19:54.000It doesn't matter if you have kids, if this is not your fight.
01:19:57.000I don't believe in being disengaged from anything.
01:20:00.000So one of the things that made the Armenian parents go so viral is the fact that there were so many men there present and that's what I love about the Armenian community is so many men.
01:20:09.000I've never seen this in the Hispanic community.
01:20:11.000I've never seen this anywhere else where so many men show up.
01:20:14.000So to all the men out there, you know, I know that like the manosphere and there's like a lot of things that men talk about why it's woman's fault and OnlyFans this and that.
01:21:21.00090% of my support comes from women because They don't see any other man standing up in Los Angeles that's just, you know, heeding the call.
01:21:32.000And so to other men, I'm like, dude, you have to show up.
01:23:31.000And sometimes, I know it's hard to keep pressing at it, but man, sometimes when you're doing a lot of the work, it does feel like you're alone.
01:23:44.000It's definitely been rough, but it's been rewarding.
01:23:46.000But it's definitely something I would love to, a conversation I would love to continue with you offline because I know we're strapped for time.
01:23:52.000But I would love to find you on Twitter and talk to you more about it because I have a few more pieces to that puzzle I'd like to expand.
01:25:01.000So my question is for Anthony, and it's a question that, you know, I love asking him every day, but what will it take for you to leave California?
01:26:00.000My, my thing is, I'm not totally against leaving California, but it has to get that bad.
01:26:08.000But look, my children are getting baptized despite the indoctrination.
01:26:12.000I think, if anything, the persecution is making us stronger Christians.
01:26:16.000And there's this video of a Christian pastor that went to go visit Christians that were imprisoned in China and other countries where Christianity is illegal.
01:26:27.000And the prisoners would say, you know, oh, you know, pray for me to be as strong as you guys in America.
01:26:33.000And like pray for us to like be able to be like Americans.
01:26:37.000Pray for our country to have... And the pastor was just like, you know what?
01:26:41.000I actually pray that Christians in America would be more like you.
01:26:51.000You could be like everyone else and just run away, but you're choosing to stay here and spread the gospel through persecution.
01:26:56.000I mean, again, I was reading Philippians today.
01:26:58.000The Apostle Paul was talking about, my brothers, I'm in prison, but glorify that the entire prison is now listening to the gospel of Jesus Christ because they know that I'm being wrongfully persecuted.
01:27:09.000So it's not that I'm trying to liken myself to any apostle or anything like that, but there is power in persecution.
01:27:17.000We're going to be persecuted for our beliefs.
01:27:19.000So to me, I find solace that there's a lot of Californians that don't, they can't leave.
01:27:25.000There's people that can, they will, you know, but there's a lot of people that can't.
01:27:29.000The single moms out there that are on that welfare system, they can't leave.
01:27:33.000You know how many people like, and this has been told to me by Republicans that said like, dude, we can't compete with the healthcare in California.
01:28:26.000If you focus on the hyperlocal, I promise you, man, like you're going to start seeing change.
01:28:31.000But there's like an old saying that goes, if you're willing to do good, you have to be a man prepared to not sit in the shade of the tree of which you planted the seed of.
01:28:42.000I think I'm butchering it, but it's basically saying, if you're fighting for good, it's a lifelong fight, and you might die and not see... The shade of the tree.
01:30:34.000We actually have a little bit of breaking news, and I want to say thank you again for the call, which may have happened during the show tonight.
01:30:44.000I guess we'll have to see if Tim Prime is able to get to this tomorrow.
01:30:48.000If not, maybe Tim 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 will be here.
01:30:53.000Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg may be holding a cage match.