Idaho wants to make gender-affirming care for trans teens punishable by life in prison, and a new bill would also make it a felony to help a transgender teen leave the state to get gender affirming care. Plus, a story about an 11-year-old girl who thinks she's born in the wrong body.
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00:02:30.000Or saying that if a child knows their body well enough to know that they are born in the wrong body, why can't that child choose to have sex with Nigel down the road who's 56?
00:02:49.000That there's like a pedophilic... That's the best use of the word insidious, though, I've ever heard, to be honest, which is like the slow incrementation of something... You think it's like an intentional thing that they've been trying to... Yes, I do.
00:03:00.000And I also think that it's a means for people who are adults who are transgender to justify their own desires.
00:03:12.000Well, kids are used as collateral, as like a shield, aren't they?
00:03:16.000So if you're an autogynophile and you are a man and you present as a woman, if you can say that it's not a fetish because actually there's an 11-year-old girl who also thinks she's born in the wrong body, then you can stop that conversation right there and it becomes an act of bravery and you're stunning and wonderfully courageous for attempting to transition.
00:03:42.000um it's it's it's just too it's too weird like you've got 11 year olds telling people that they're bisexual or a lesbian or gay or i mean heterosexual is something that nobody wants to be anymore uh but they don't even know what that means absolutely of course they don't I wonder, you know, I was telling you this story before we did the main show.
00:04:03.000My mom opened a cafe on the north side of Chicago, North Halstead and Boys Town.
00:04:08.000And I remember, she didn't want me going outside during Pride
00:04:42.000So I wonder if the issue is, there are for a lot of people, it's fetishism and sex.
00:04:47.000And for like, this is an issue for specifically for, I think this applies to both gay and trans.
00:04:53.000There are gay people, I don't see those as... I don't see why we should include those as the same thing, but that's what we do.
00:04:58.000to hold hands, cuddle, and live together, and they're also sexually attracted to each other.
00:05:01.000And then there are some people that want, who are sexual deviants, who want to make, you know,
00:05:06.000walk around naked and do things like that. I don't see those as, I don't see why we should include
00:05:13.000those as the same thing, but that's what we do. So the issue with trans also is you have people who
00:05:17.000are unwell and predators, and then you have some people who have, you know, dysmorphia or dysphoria,
00:05:23.000and they need help and assistance, and they're otherwise really good people.
00:05:27.000The problem is, you have people who, like, we shouldn't be putting these in the same category.
00:05:31.000Well, there are organizations that are like, get the T out, right?
00:05:36.000That are saying, like, lesbian, gay, bisexual is one thing, and then all this other stuff are these add-ons that don't have anything to do with it, right?
00:05:44.000Because sexual orientation is who you're attracted to.
00:06:11.000So your sexual kind of turn on is, is being a woman.
00:06:15.000But I think there's that, but you also need to consider when they have 11 year old boys do drag shows.
00:06:19.000Like the problem is you have all of, you have a bunch of different groups masquerading under LGBT when you have child predators who are having an 11 year old boy dance on stage.
00:06:31.000Like there's more and more letters and there have been arguments to add, um, To add a P for, you know, pedophilia, and to add a K for kink.
00:06:43.000Initially, the LGBTP thing was considered to be bullshit.
00:06:47.000Like, the trolls trying to trick the left.
00:06:50.000But now you have organizations like Prostasia advocating for acceptance of pedophiles, saying that just because you're a pedophile doesn't mean you're going to act on it, and therefore we should, like, Facilitate your acceptance in society with your like weird kinky desires and help you deal with it.
00:07:09.000And meanwhile, it's like you're a fucking pedo!
00:08:36.000Laya, so we have Laya Thomas, the male swimmer, who proves that like men are just better at swimming.
00:08:45.000And of course, Isaac Hennig, who is female, but got top surgery and identifies as a man, but is the one man allowed to compete against women outside of their own ideology.
00:08:55.000And proves also that if you cut your boobs off, you're going to have less water resistance.
00:09:00.000So I was wondering, actually, no, I think this is a disadvantage.
00:09:03.000Because Hennig beat Thomas in a race, but then Thomas's teammates said that Thomas and Hennig colluded.
00:09:11.000Right, because, so actually, I was wondering if, when I was talking about this, people said, oh, but, you know, Hennig didn't take testosterone, so that's why Hennig, he's still competing against women.
00:09:44.000But it turns out, right into this, women are actually better endurance swimmers because they have breasts.
00:09:51.000So the extra fatty tissue allows their chest to remain, alleviate some of the strain on their muscles, which is why Lya Thomas actually performs much worse in long-distance swimming relative to women, but in sprint swimming does way better.
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00:11:36.000Let's say you have like 100 units of energy and it takes like 10 units of energy to do one lap.
00:11:41.000For women, because of breasts, it takes nine units of energy because that creates buoyancy.
00:11:48.000So it's easier to stay afloat in the pool.
00:11:51.000But because of a smaller frame, smaller arms and legs, and less muscle mass, they're not as fast.
00:11:56.000If you were to put a man and a woman and make them swim the English Channel, for instance, the woman would be more likely to make it across than the man.
00:12:02.000The man would go way faster in a race, the woman would last longer in an endurance swim.
00:12:07.000The issue though is that we have let ourselves get...
00:13:01.000And people like us are less likely to be that.
00:13:03.000When I started writing about transhumanism in Quillette in 2018, I was slammed by a bunch of people who said that I was equating trans people with like weird robot future people was basically the argument.
00:13:21.000And I was like, well, it is a it is part of transhumanism.
00:13:25.000just because you don't see that because you know you want to be non-binary or
00:13:29.000whatever it doesn't mean that you're not part of a transhumanist movement that
00:13:32.000you just are not recognizing. I think that there's something
00:13:38.000interesting in the trans stuff when I was talking to, it comes up all the time,
00:13:42.000but with Jack Dorsey it was a really great example of the broke, the fractured
00:13:48.000I don't know if you saw when I was on... I did.
00:13:51.000So when I told Jack Dorsey, conservatives have the inverted view of misgendering to liberals.
00:13:57.000So when you say, we don't allow misgendering to a conservative, that's calling someone who's male by female pronouns.
00:14:03.000To a progressive, it's calling someone who identifies as female with male pronouns if they're male.
00:14:08.000And so you've chosen one side of that argument.
00:14:11.000There's a clear deviation here, but it's not just the issue of transgender, it's an issue of trans everything.
00:14:17.000There is a group of people that is very much into the idea of your body is not you, you can be whatever you want, you can change whatever you want, your body is irrelevant.
00:14:27.000There's a weird overlap between people who believe you can be healthy at every size, morbidly obese people are healthy, That is a weird thing.
00:14:43.000I think the minute you tell a child that, yes, they are born in the wrong body, I think you actually commit an act of abuse against that child.
00:15:40.000So the issue is, as I was talking about at the end of the show with racial segregation, in California they have women in computer programs and some guy sued.
00:15:54.000And he said a program for women in computers, it's only for like a computer program, it's only for women.
00:16:24.000So the interesting thing is back during racial segregation, the argument was, well, black people are different.
00:16:28.000They're taller or they're stronger or whatever, which was now we're hearing repeated by the left once again, but this time for gender in the bathroom.
00:16:35.000I think from a legal perspective, if we're going to uphold racial desegregation, the same Supreme Court statutes are going to apply because of the activists.
00:16:57.000And when you look at the way that these things are being structured, and using race as an example, it's just another thing that is classified as a difference, but it's not actually even remotely the same.
00:17:16.000I think it was Delano Squires, maybe, who talked about this.
00:17:19.000He said, take a person who has dark pigmentation and you don't know exactly where they come from or what race, what ethnicity, what ethnic background they are.
00:17:30.000You might think this person is black and they could be from one of any different country.
00:17:34.000The people of Somalia have different body mass and different height, the people of Kenya.
00:17:38.000So, you know, as to why racism and racial segregation is wrong?
00:17:41.000Because you can't tell if someone's Kenyan or Somalian just by looking at them for the most part.
00:17:46.000And so if you were like, we're concerned about people who are taller or stronger, well then the issue is you're dealing with, okay, what about, you know, this country, the average height is five and a half feet.
00:17:56.000You're gonna say this person's black, too, and ban that person.
00:17:59.000You just gotta be like, the racial segregation doesn't make sense.
00:18:17.000But the issue is, even in a society where the men are only five and a half feet tall on average, say you're in like Thailand or something, and the women are five feet on average, there is still the sexual dimorphism.
00:18:41.000We're not going to lose because I think men, actually decent men, are not going to allow women to lose.
00:18:48.000I don't necessarily think women are going to win this war on our own, but I think enough men will wake up who care about women who won't let this happen.
00:18:56.000It tends to be that though, you know, it's, it's, it's, you know, it takes strong men to stand up to weak men to stop the bullshit.
00:19:07.000I'm actually pretty impressed with the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, who brought this opinion saying that medically, gender transitioning a child is child abuse and needs to be investigated.
00:19:21.000I'm impressed with Ron DeSantis, who's doing the same thing.
00:22:08.000I'm over here being the pacifist and my brother's like, nah, carry this knife.
00:22:12.000There's a viral video somebody made where the guy is screaming at his girlfriend and like grabbing her and being rough and then people run up and grab him and tell him to fuck off.
00:22:19.000And then they invert it where the girl is slapping the guy and shoving him and everyone laughs at him.
00:22:25.000Well, that's awful, but my 13-year-old, so he's my youngest.
00:23:00.000So if like all the chickens are out in a field and like a fox is coming by, the rooster will charge the fox fully knowing it will die and yell out a call for the hens to run and hide and get to safety.
00:24:33.000If you take two adult roosters who don't know each other and put them in the same space, the dominant rooster will kill the other rooster if it's a confined space.
00:24:41.000If you put them out in the open, the rooster just runs away.
00:24:43.000Typically, the roosters won't kill each other.
00:26:40.000But anyway, the point is, the point is, if you actually, if you actually watch, hold on, hold on, if you actually watch, I'm serious about having kids watch this stuff, if you actually watch how a rooster behaves, the girls are all eating and he just stands there looking around, making sure there's no predators.
00:26:55.000So he will actually wait to eat sometimes.
00:26:58.000I'll throw food in and he'll run up to it and then look at it and then look up and just stare around and make sure the girls get to eat while he waits.
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00:27:37.000Is this some sort of lesson for how we should live?
00:28:09.000to adopt to make kids. It is so weird and disturbing.
00:28:14.000I would like to teach children about life and nature and reality.
00:28:21.000And these people would as well, but they have what I view as an amoral, predatory worldview.
00:28:27.000I don't think the two things are comparable.
00:28:32.000Teaching children the reality of things that will enable them to have fulfilling lives is very different to teaching them that it's perfectly normal to cut your breasts off or to pretend to be born in the wrong body.
00:28:43.000Or to cut a bunch of your arm off and fashion it into a fake cock and stitch it onto yourself.
00:28:51.000I used to, I sort of think a lot of the girls, they have no idea how amazing their bodies are, right?
00:28:57.000Because We do have a better time than you.
00:29:01.000Mine would be so frequent, but it is better to be female.
00:29:05.000And so not to get to the bit where you work out that the body that you don't like very much as a teenager is actually a pretty remarkable thing that gives you loads of joy.
00:29:14.000It's just weird that we're then allowing them to just sever all ties with pleasure.
00:29:20.000I disagree when you say women are better.
00:29:23.000I think that's what a lot of these trans women think.
00:29:27.000They hear like, oh, women have it better, and they're like, oh, wow.
00:29:50.000Because when we jump, our center of gravity is already higher.
00:29:54.000Women, so there's a, A question that gets asked not so often, but it comes up, why is it that men in skateboarding can ollie higher than women, which is basically a jump function?
00:30:04.000It's because women's center of gravity is lower, so they have to, when they jump and then bend their legs, their center of gravity is lower to the ground, and they can only bend their legs so much, they clear less height.
00:30:14.000Plus, they have less fast switch muscles, less muscle mass.
00:30:18.000Men, center of gravity being higher, means a man could do a light hop and pull his legs all the way up and clear an extra foot or two than a woman.
00:30:29.000The reality is men and women have different bodies, and there's good things and bad things, and I think you need to learn how to appreciate what you have and utilize it.
00:30:36.000What I mean by that, and I was being facetious, but what I mean is that before they've ever had a fulfilling sexual relationship, they've already severed any relationship with joy with their bodies because they've ruined their bodies to a point where they can't experience a decent sexual relationship.
00:32:38.000Well, and Avery Jackson was ushered into being trans when he was four years old and, like, pushed into the whole thing, put on puberty blockers, never developed testes.
00:32:53.000And so doctors were saying that there shouldn't be any issue in cutting off Avery Jackson's dick because he never, it never developed properly, which was after they, you know, medicated him.
00:33:06.000And also I think that a lot of this gender affirmation stuff that's being pushed by doctors Parents don't realize that it will sterilize their children.
00:33:17.000Yeah that they are killing their grandchildren by doing this Preventing their children from ever becoming natural parents preventing their children from ever having an orgasm which I think you know is something that really needs to be recognized.
00:33:31.000When you are gender transitioning your child, you are ushering them into a life of no sexual satisfaction whatsoever.
00:34:06.000You know, the way we all feel about our bodies, the way we feel about the opposite sex or the same sex, whoever you're attracted to, everything is a big pile of crap when you're a teenager.
00:34:16.000And I was a pretty successful teenager when I was I was quite happy and I absolutely loved my developing body.
00:34:23.000But this idea that you can't have hardships or that you need some pills or you need some therapy is ridiculous.
00:35:57.000I also have this example of my mother.
00:36:01.000My point more so is that as a little kid, it wasn't until I was in, I think, seventh grade that I actually started getting the butterflies.
00:36:08.000There was a certain girl in my class, and then I would see her, and then all of a sudden I would be like, I had this weird feeling.
00:39:14.000Anyways, so she was talking about how she had been on testosterone for a long time and she had like vaginal atrophy, which can happen, which is incredibly painful.
00:39:25.000Buck Angel, I think, talks about this as well and uterine atrophy and talks about how painful and horrible it is.
00:39:34.000So after you're really tense up, you don't release.
00:39:36.000So it's the height of absolute pulling together.
00:39:41.000So Carol went into Planned Parenthood to say I'm having this problem and Planned Parenthood gave her information on where she could go to get a phalloplasty.
00:44:49.000We're just about going too late, but one last question.
00:44:52.000How long do you think it'll be until a male gets a uterus implant and is impregnated and then delivers via c-section?
00:45:00.000Well, I think it will be as soon as humanly possible.
00:45:04.000And I don't think it is humanly possible.
00:45:07.000I think we're so far away from You can put a uterus in someone you can maybe support that uterus as an outside organ and I'm sure we're not we're quite close to that but a male body actually being able to generate the right sort of nutrients and and that's interesting works to actually get like in the third trimester of a baby's life through the bones of their mother they bond through smells and tastes and everything those sorts of things are really difficult to replicate but
00:45:39.000That'll be interesting, because I think... But the NHS is studying it anyway right now.