Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 14, 2022


Sunday Uncensored: Larry Elder Member Podcast: Feds Give Life Sentences To Men Convicted of Killing Ahmaud Arbery, Crew Talks Trump Raid And Civil War


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

191.79097

Word Count

7,710

Sentence Count

620

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Racist dad and son both receive hate crime life sentences for murder of Ahmed Arbery, and judge refuses to transfer them to safer federal prison over death threat fears. We talk about why white people should be more afraid of Black people.


Transcript

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00:00:23.000 We have a story from the Daily Mail that says, racist dad and son both receive hate crime life sentences
00:00:31.000 for murder of Ahmed Arbery and judge refuses to transfer them to safer federal prison
00:00:36.000 over death threat fears.
00:00:38.000 Okay, I'm just gonna come out right and say it.
00:00:41.000 Do you know about the Ahmaud Arbery story?
00:00:43.000 Bullshit.
00:00:44.000 This is bullshit.
00:00:45.000 This is... Look, it's not just the Trump getting raided thing.
00:00:49.000 It is this story.
00:00:51.000 These guys getting life sentences over what went down is fucked.
00:00:54.000 This country is absolutely collapsed.
00:00:56.000 This is political.
00:00:57.000 We are entering the show trial stage of a nation, raiding Donald Trump, shackling Peter Navarro.
00:01:05.000 What's up with Peter Navarro?
00:01:07.000 the way the courts crushed him.
00:01:09.000 And I can say all of these guys, you got some criticism to throw their way, but holy fuck,
00:01:15.000 this right here, when you know the true details of the story, we're fucked, man.
00:01:20.000 What's up with Peter Navarro?
00:01:21.000 What happened?
00:01:23.000 was often airplane a shackle them and yeah is he in jail right now no no is a
00:01:26.000 content of congress think about i'm curious side to hear your thoughts larry
00:01:30.000 on the on the arbor case especially with this news life sentences
00:01:34.000 and they gave the guy who filmed it thirty five years
00:01:39.000 well i follow the trial very closely and i thought that they were going to be
00:01:42.000 found not guilty Mmm.
00:01:43.000 And I was surprised when they were found guilty.
00:01:46.000 And LeBron James tweeted after this happened, black people are, quote, afraid to leave their homes, close quote.
00:01:52.000 When in fact, half of the homicide victims in this country are black, almost all killed by other blacks.
00:01:58.000 A young black man is eight times more likely to be murdered than a young white man, and almost always the murderer is another young black man.
00:02:04.000 So it's BS that black people live in fear of somebody white tracking them down and shooting them.
00:02:09.000 Isn't it also true that white people who are killed are more likely to be killed by a white person?
00:02:13.000 Well, murder is a same-race crime.
00:02:15.000 So 85% of whites who are killed are killed by other whites.
00:02:19.000 95% of blacks who are killed are killed by other blacks.
00:02:20.000 But there are interracial murders.
00:02:22.000 Every year there's about 700 of them.
00:02:25.000 500 whites are killed by blacks and about 250 blacks are killed by whites.
00:02:28.000 So whites in a much greater percentage of the population kill fewer blacks than the other way around.
00:02:32.000 And then when you talk about non-murder violent crimes, there are roughly 600,000 to 800,000 interracial black, white, non-violent, non-homicide violent crimes.
00:02:43.000 By that I mean attempted murder, manslaughter, rape, assault with an aggravated weapon.
00:02:48.000 85% of them are black perps, white victims.
00:02:51.000 Only 15% the other way around.
00:02:53.000 So if anything, white people ought to be more in fear of their lives against black people than the other way around.
00:02:59.000 What causes this?
00:03:00.000 Where does this come from?
00:03:02.000 The media cares a great deal when an unarmed black person gets killed by the cops.
00:03:08.000 When an unarmed white person gets killed by the cops, nobody cares.
00:03:10.000 But I mean, where does it come from that you just said white people should be more scared of Yeah, if you look at the numbers, again, when you look at interracial black-white violent crime, 85% of the perpetrators are black, only 15% the other way around.
00:03:27.000 So a white, when it's an interracial crime, a white person is far more likely to be a victim than the person who committed the crime.
00:03:34.000 And you're saying that's because of the media?
00:03:37.000 It's because, oh, why don't people know that?
00:03:39.000 I'm saying like, where does it come from that these young black men are more likely to be... I think it's a great deal of anger.
00:03:39.000 No, no, no.
00:03:45.000 A lot of black people are convinced that white people are evil, are bad people.
00:03:49.000 They're angry over slavery, over Jim Crow.
00:03:53.000 They've been taught that white people are fundamentally against their best interests.
00:03:57.000 Even LeBron James said that one time.
00:03:59.000 He said when he grew up, he thought white people did not give a blank about black people.
00:04:02.000 And I did not like white people.
00:04:04.000 That feels like a mental shackle, a mental prison.
00:04:07.000 It is.
00:04:08.000 What's the balance between teaching the history of the actual atrocities, right?
00:04:14.000 Slavery, segregation, and then also being like, however, you still get...
00:04:22.000 Because you want to be empowering too.
00:04:25.000 You don't want to say, hey, slavery happened, therefore you're always going to be lesser than.
00:04:28.000 Well, the balance is that we had a civil war to abolish it, the only nation that did.
00:04:33.000 And roughly 300,000 white people lost their lives on the Union side.
00:04:39.000 Hundreds of thousands more were injured during the civil war.
00:04:43.000 It's a country, America, is one that struggled mightily to become a more perfect nation.
00:04:49.000 And every day we are becoming more perfect.
00:04:52.000 As far as race is concerned.
00:04:54.000 You're familiar with Daryl Davis?
00:04:54.000 I don't think so.
00:04:56.000 He's the blues musician, middle-aged black fellow.
00:05:02.000 He's the guy who befriended all the Klan members and de-radicalized them.
00:05:05.000 That's the one they did the movie about?
00:05:07.000 I think they did.
00:05:08.000 They probably did.
00:05:09.000 We had him on the show and I was surprised to learn that he was a proponent of critical race theory.
00:05:15.000 But, you know, I guess what a lot of people learned was that they thought he was de-radicalizing identitarians, white supremacists.
00:05:22.000 Instead, they realized he was just taking identitarian values but flipping it around in a similar direction.
00:05:28.000 I want to talk about the Ahmaud Arbery stuff.
00:05:31.000 Critical race theory is just crap.
00:05:33.000 It's teaching white kids that they're eternal oppressors and black kids that they're eternal victims.
00:05:38.000 Again, Barack Obama got a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier.
00:05:45.000 Obama won the 2008 election with roughly about 52% of the vote.
00:05:49.000 He walked into the Oval Office the third week of January 2009 at 70% approval.
00:05:55.000 A bunch of white people who didn't vote for him suddenly said, you know what?
00:05:58.000 At least this guy is going to bring us together regarding race relations.
00:06:00.000 And every single time Obama had a chance to be conciliatory, he went the wrong way.
00:06:06.000 The first time was when the Cambridge police briefly arrested his buddy Skip Gates from
00:06:10.000 Harvard.
00:06:11.000 What did he say?
00:06:12.000 The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
00:06:13.000 No, they didn't.
00:06:14.000 Skip Gates came from vacation, forgot his door key, and with the driver, his cab driver broke
00:06:20.000 Neighbors saw it.
00:06:21.000 Don't you want your neighbors to call 911 when they see something like that?
00:06:24.000 White cop shows up, very politely sees this black man in the house and says, sir, please come out and show me ID.
00:06:28.000 Instead of doing it, he said, I'll come out if your mama tells me to come out.
00:06:31.000 What did Obama say?
00:06:32.000 The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
00:06:35.000 Then Obama took the Ferguson thing and gave a speech for the United Nations and said, you know, America's not perfect.
00:06:40.000 There's a place called Ferguson.
00:06:40.000 We have our own problems.
00:06:41.000 Ferguson was, as you know, was BS.
00:06:45.000 Obama said, That racism is in America's DNA when he became president.
00:06:49.000 Obama had Al Sharpton, America's preeminent race card hustler, in the White House over 70 times.
00:06:55.000 If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.
00:06:58.000 And this is a guy who, when he was running, was interviewed on 60 Minutes, the first time he was ever on 60 Minutes, and he hadn't become the frontrunner yet.
00:07:05.000 He was challenging Hillary.
00:07:06.000 And he was asked, Senator, if you don't get the nomination, will it be because of race?
00:07:11.000 And I was at home by myself.
00:07:12.000 I said, let's see how this man answers.
00:07:13.000 Is he going to give what I call a victocrat answer like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, both of whom ran for president?
00:07:19.000 And Obama said, no.
00:07:21.000 If I don't win, it will be because I have not articulated a vision that the American people can embrace.
00:07:25.000 And I said, hallelujah.
00:07:27.000 I'm not going to vote for a Democrat, tax, bin, regulate, Democrat, but at least this guy is going to bring us together and stop the nonsense.
00:07:33.000 Instead, every single time he had a chance to give a speech where he showed that racism is no longer a major problem, he went the other way.
00:07:40.000 I think a lot of liberals, like I don't really know exactly what critical race theory is.
00:07:44.000 he ultimately cut ties with him. So Obama made things worse.
00:07:48.000 When he first came into office polls show both blacks and whites thought race
00:07:51.000 relations would improve under him and when he left both blacks and whites thought that they got
00:07:55.000 worse under him.
00:07:55.000 I think a lot of liberals, like I don't really know exactly what critical race theory is.
00:08:02.000 I think a lot of people on the left think that it means teaching history.
00:08:06.000 Well, so that's what They think it means teaching history and the unequal outcomes that we're experiencing is all because of systemic racism.
00:08:16.000 Yes, and that's why I wanted to bring it up and I almost wish we talked about it on the regular show so that more people could hear it.
00:08:23.000 We define critical race theory.
00:08:25.000 A theme of the show is that the left refuses to listen to facts.
00:08:25.000 All the time.
00:08:28.000 I think people on the left legitimately, every time they hear that, just think,
00:08:32.000 you're just gonna pretend slavery didn't happen, or pretend segregation didn't happen, or whatever.
00:08:36.000 A theme of the show is that the left refuses to listen to facts.
00:08:39.000 I know, I know, I'm just trying to be vulnerable, everybody.
00:08:43.000 Kimberly Crenshaw wrote in her book, Critical Race Theory, that Marx was right about the classes,
00:08:50.000 the bourgeoisie, the proletariat, that their class oppression was a real thing.
00:08:55.000 However, the critical theory of Marx didn't account for race relations in the United States.
00:08:59.000 Therefore, she needed to come up with something that was critical theory with race, thus she coined critical race theory.
00:09:05.000 Which holds that there are the oppressor and the oppressed class, although it's not wealth in the United States, it's race.
00:09:12.000 The white oppressors, the non-white oppressed.
00:09:14.000 Ridiculous.
00:09:15.000 Look, I'm new to the family, guys.
00:09:16.000 I'm learning every day.
00:09:17.000 Derek Bell was mad about Brown v. Board of Education.
00:09:21.000 Derek Bell argued we should have never desegregated this country.
00:09:25.000 These people are reactionaries.
00:09:29.000 Okay, do you know what a reactionary is?
00:09:30.000 Yes, that I know.
00:09:32.000 These are people who... but no one called them that when they started this process, which they should have.
00:09:37.000 They want to turn back the clock and bring things back to the olden days of segregation.
00:09:41.000 What's a reactionary?
00:09:42.000 So when the French Revolution happened... Oh, I didn't know it opened then.
00:09:47.000 When the French Revolution happened, there were the pro-monarchy people who tried stopping the revolution.
00:09:53.000 They reacted to the revolution.
00:09:54.000 They were the reactionaries.
00:09:56.000 So today, a reactionary refers to someone who's trying to stop the revolution.
00:10:00.000 Derrick Bell wants to turn back the Supreme Court rulings and argued we'd be better off with segregation.
00:10:06.000 That is rewinding things.
00:10:07.000 Kimberly Crenshaw, all of, and if you look at outside of critical race theory, if we want to be, you know, maybe semantic or pedantic, you want to look at intersectionality and D'Angelo.
00:10:19.000 These people outright advocate for an earlier day.
00:10:24.000 Before the civil rights movement.
00:10:26.000 They don't believe in a colorblind society.
00:10:28.000 They are the antithesis of what MLK stood for.
00:10:30.000 Right.
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00:11:53.000 I had a friend who started getting woke.
00:11:56.000 And then I said, I told everybody, you know, if you're talking to a woke person, you don't want to yell at them.
00:12:03.000 If they're embracing these ideas, just ask them a simple question.
00:12:05.000 Do you agree with the dream of Dr. King?
00:12:09.000 And they always say yes.
00:12:10.000 They have to.
00:12:11.000 That one day my four little children will be judged not based on the color of their skin, but the content of their character.
00:12:15.000 Well, of course.
00:12:16.000 Do you think that you are adhering to Dr. King's dream by having racial quotas or racial policies in how these children can be denied or admitted into schools?
00:12:27.000 Judging someone on the content of their character?
00:12:29.000 No.
00:12:30.000 And then they, cognitive dissonance.
00:12:32.000 I think with critical theory, which is a Marxist, Marx kind of came up with the idea of critical theory, that there's an oppressor and oppressed.
00:12:38.000 But I think the idea that he posed is that everything is divided into that.
00:12:42.000 And that's not the case.
00:12:43.000 And that's what critical race theory is.
00:12:44.000 Sometimes.
00:12:45.000 There are situations where you'll have a racial oppressor and oppressed, and sometimes in life there will be oppressors, but it's not every situation at all times.
00:12:54.000 Because if you think that, you're gonna look for it and find, like, two friends aren't oppressing or oppressed by each other.
00:13:01.000 I remember even when I was on the super-wokey liberal side, when I started doing jiu-jitsu and essentially just doing hard, challenging things, I started thinking about I started thinking about this, where it's like if you are telling a group of people that they're constantly oppressed, if I'm training and someone's telling me I'm always gonna be bad, I'm never gonna be big, I'm never gonna be fast, instead of telling me, hey, you can be smart, hey, you have these other advantages that these other people, I almost feel like that's gonna do more damage to me as a person.
00:13:33.000 Of course it will.
00:13:33.000 Most millionaires did not start out as millionaires.
00:13:36.000 They started out as middle class or lower class.
00:13:39.000 And they busted their butt over 30 years, Voila, now they have a net worth of over a million dollars.
00:13:44.000 How can that be if it's the proletariat versus the bourgeois?
00:13:48.000 I really want to jump to the story and get into the Ahmaud Arbery stuff.
00:13:52.000 So, I'll put it simply.
00:13:54.000 This story's been fake news from the get-go, but what really pissed me off here is that even conservatives cheered for this verdict.
00:14:02.000 So, I'm interested in your opinion.
00:14:03.000 You followed the trial very closely, you said?
00:14:05.000 Yes.
00:14:05.000 As I said earlier, I thought they were going to be found not guilty.
00:14:08.000 I thought there was a good chance they were going to be found not guilty.
00:14:09.000 Can someone give a cliff note of the scenario?
00:14:12.000 This is the story where you probably saw the video.
00:14:15.000 of a guy running down the street towards a pickup.
00:14:18.000 And then there's a guy to the left holding a shotgun.
00:14:21.000 And then the Ahmed Arbery, the black man running, goes around the right side of the truck.
00:14:26.000 And then the next thing you see is both of them fighting over the shotgun, which then goes off.
00:14:30.000 Ahmed Arbery took a couple to the chest and then falls over and dies.
00:14:34.000 What they argued was that this was a lynching.
00:14:37.000 Jumped in their car and chased down a jogger.
00:14:39.000 This guy was a suspect in a felony burglary.
00:14:42.000 The guy who was filming him wasn't chasing him down.
00:14:47.000 He just said, the police told me that's the guy.
00:14:49.000 I should film him.
00:14:51.000 The police had gone around and asked people like, have you seen this man?
00:14:54.000 He's wanted for burglary.
00:14:56.000 So when the McMichaels saw him and someone said, hey, that's the guy, they went after him.
00:15:02.000 The police told them not to.
00:15:03.000 However, the law Stated that they have a right to commit a citizen's arrest if they believe a felony had been committed.
00:15:11.000 If they believe a felony had been committed, they don't need to be personal witnesses to the crime.
00:15:16.000 However, it was the DA who made a weird argument about the language, like omitting a comma, and thus said, you need to witness the crime no matter what.
00:15:27.000 And the judge said, I don't know, jury decide as you will.
00:15:29.000 And the jury found him all guilty.
00:15:31.000 The crazy thing is, the easiest way to understand that this story is complete bullshit, is that this guy right here, his name is William Roddy Bryan, got in his car and simply filmed it.
00:15:46.000 That's all he did. He saw the guy and he filmed him. Now his fucking mistake, apparently,
00:15:53.000 is that he gave the footage to the press, to a radio station, saying, look, this is what happened.
00:15:58.000 This is what was filmed. And they said, okay, you're an accomplice now. I wonder if this is
00:16:03.000 actually that the local jurisdiction said to these guys, you put this footage out,
00:16:08.000 you embarrassed us, you caused problems. We're going to fuck you.
00:16:12.000 Because this story is illegitimate.
00:16:14.000 I mean, Ahmaud Arbery was not a jogger.
00:16:16.000 He was a criminal suspect.
00:16:18.000 They had evidence of him committing burglary.
00:16:22.000 There you go.
00:16:22.000 And a gun had been stolen, I believe, six weeks earlier.
00:16:26.000 You got burglaries.
00:16:27.000 You got a stolen gun.
00:16:29.000 And the guy won't stop.
00:16:30.000 He doesn't live in your neighborhood.
00:16:31.000 He's from, what, was it 20 miles away or something like that?
00:16:34.000 He kept coming.
00:16:34.000 Supposedly jogging.
00:16:35.000 Yeah.
00:16:36.000 In boots.
00:16:38.000 The other thing, Tim, we were talking about this earlier.
00:16:41.000 Somebody once said that compound interest is the greatest force in the universe.
00:16:47.000 Einstein.
00:16:48.000 Actually, he didn't say it.
00:16:50.000 People think he did, but he didn't.
00:16:51.000 I checked it.
00:16:52.000 They don't know who said it.
00:16:53.000 But whoever said that never encountered white guilt.
00:16:57.000 I think a lot of these jurors, like the O.J.
00:17:00.000 jurors, there were a couple of jurors that were white, and they went along with the... I mean, the man did everything but leave his business card at the crime scene.
00:17:07.000 And here he is playing golf right now after having murdered two white people.
00:17:11.000 I think a whole bunch of people on that jury have been wokefied, were afraid to come up with a jury verdict other than guilt, out of white guilt.
00:17:22.000 I had an experience in L.A.
00:17:23.000 I was leaving L.A.
00:17:24.000 or I wasn't leaving yet, but my friend, I was telling him about Hillary Clinton's emails about Sidney Blumenthal, the war in Libya, and how she's helping Sidney gunrun with Osprey Global Solutions.
00:17:33.000 He's like, that's white privilege, Ian!
00:17:35.000 That's white privilege!
00:17:36.000 And I'm like, I didn't even know how to start to react to that.
00:17:39.000 What the fuck does it have to do with anything color or shade oriented?
00:17:42.000 Ridiculous.
00:17:43.000 I didn't know what else to do, so I just stopped talking to him.
00:17:46.000 By the way, Ian, it was Sidney Blumenthal who started the birther thing.
00:17:49.000 It wasn't Donald Trump.
00:17:51.000 During the campaign of 2008, Sidney Blumenthal goes to the McClatchy newspapers and tells a guy named James Asher that Obama is from Africa to the point where McClatchy put somebody to track down the story, found out it wasn't true.
00:18:04.000 But I tell you, you talk to 10 Democrats and 10 Democrats will say Donald Trump started this thing.
00:18:09.000 He did not.
00:18:09.000 Hillary did it.
00:18:10.000 And there's a program called Morning Joe where the co-author of a book called Game Change named John Hyman was on.
00:18:17.000 And Harold Ford, Democrat, was a panelist.
00:18:21.000 And they start talking about this story.
00:18:23.000 And morning Joe Scarborough said, that started with Hillary.
00:18:28.000 And Harold Ford went nuts.
00:18:30.000 He said, what are you talking about?
00:18:31.000 There's no basis for that.
00:18:33.000 And then Joe said, well, Howman, you wrote a book called Game Change, 2008.
00:18:37.000 You know the story.
00:18:38.000 What happened?
00:18:39.000 And he said, I'm confirming the Scarborough theory.
00:18:41.000 It was Sidney Blumenthal, the hatchet man for Hillary, who started this birther stuff.
00:18:46.000 Wow.
00:18:47.000 This story, the Ahmaud Arbery thing, it's like they're just gonna start locking people up.
00:18:55.000 There was a guy who was in his house in Wisconsin.
00:18:57.000 A group of Black Lives Matter protesters had protested in front of another house because two girls were missing.
00:19:02.000 Do you remember the story?
00:19:04.000 Two girls, they were like 14, went missing.
00:19:07.000 So a mob showed up to a house where they thought they were and set fire to it.
00:19:11.000 Fire Department came to put the fire out.
00:19:13.000 The mob set fire to it again.
00:19:15.000 Turns out the girls were at a friend's house.
00:19:17.000 There was no reason to be angry.
00:19:19.000 This mob showed up to another man's house who was accused of being racist.
00:19:22.000 Started protesting in front of his residential home.
00:19:26.000 This guy brandished a shotgun at the window before putting it away.
00:19:30.000 The police then showed up, went into his house and arrested him.
00:19:34.000 They cheered for it as it happened.
00:19:35.000 These are people who kept saying defund the police, the police were racist, clapping and cheering when the cops went and arrested a guy in his own home because a mob that had previously set fire to a house was threatened by him in his own home with his own weapon.
00:19:47.000 He shouldn't have pointed it at him, but that was what they got him on.
00:19:50.000 What happened to the mob?
00:19:51.000 Nothing?
00:19:52.000 Nothing.
00:19:52.000 Nothing at all.
00:19:53.000 Can't listen to mobs, man.
00:19:54.000 You see these stories, and I said this four years ago.
00:19:59.000 I said, one day, they will come to your house, accusing you of being the racist.
00:20:06.000 The police will show up and say, I'm sorry, it is easier to arrest one person than it is to deal with a mob.
00:20:13.000 Then, a few years later, that story happened.
00:20:16.000 And I told everybody.
00:20:18.000 When you're paying attention to the news and all I do every day is read nothing but news.
00:20:23.000 I wake up in the morning, I read until 4 p.m.
00:20:26.000 when I eat and exercise, then I go back to discussing and reading news and all that stuff.
00:20:29.000 What a nightmare, Tim!
00:20:33.000 When you care of your brain brother, it's it's it's great when you can see all the pieces lined up. I say I
00:20:38.000 Know how to play chess Magic the gathering a turn-based strategy game where you
00:20:43.000 calculate the moves in front of you I can't predict the future, but you don't need to when it's
00:20:48.000 like That just happened right that just happened and that just
00:20:52.000 happened Well, this suggests we're going to see more things happen.
00:20:57.000 The difference is, you can change the rules of the game of life with emotion.
00:21:01.000 My point is, when you see the Michael Brown thing, hands up, don't shoot, was a lie.
00:21:06.000 Trayvon Martin, lie.
00:21:08.000 When the media, when they edited Zimmerman's quote, lie.
00:21:12.000 Jussie Smollett, lie.
00:21:13.000 And they believe all of it?
00:21:15.000 Then you look at the Ahmaud Arbery story, we are lucky Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty.
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00:21:53.000 I mean, man, I just like, the mob mentality stuff kills me so much
00:21:59.000 because I feel like people just have this thirst for blood instead of sadness for something that's happened.
00:22:09.000 Something that's happened, right?
00:22:10.000 Like Trayvon was still like a kid, right?
00:22:17.000 And I feel like we lose touch with just like, man, what a sad, The fact that these murders are even happening, the fact that a mob lit a house on fire, the fact that, you know... Trayvon Martin wasn't a murderer.
00:22:32.000 He was found not guilty.
00:22:33.000 What's that?
00:22:34.000 Trayvon Martin wasn't a murderer.
00:22:35.000 He was found not guilty.
00:22:36.000 Right, right, right.
00:22:37.000 But what I'm saying is that... Wait, Trayvon was tried for murder?
00:22:40.000 No, the guy that shot at Zimmerman.
00:22:42.000 Right, right, right.
00:22:42.000 He was found not guilty.
00:22:43.000 No, no, no.
00:22:44.000 But what I'm saying is that everything becomes so politicized that we lose track of Trying to help people we lose track of just the sadness that like, lives lost or people going to jail.
00:22:58.000 A lot of people, Jamie, are just flat out lying.
00:23:00.000 The Bubba Wallace thing, remember the news thing?
00:23:01.000 That turned out to be BS.
00:23:03.000 There's a book written by a guy named Wilfred O'Reilly.
00:23:05.000 He's with a black college in Kentucky.
00:23:08.000 He documented about 500 fake crimes, hate, fake race crimes, where black people just flat out lied.
00:23:16.000 And the guilty white people and the media that wants to believe all this stuff rushed and published the story.
00:23:21.000 I get, this has been on my mind so much lately, I think that we are in an era where it is time to institute a great pardon of all these people.
00:23:29.000 Biden, Sidney Blumenthal, Biden for his corruption in Ukraine, Hunters, Hillary Clinton letting Sidney run guns into Libya.
00:23:39.000 150 years of crime can be pardoned and then we need to move, I mean, all these people, there's so much Impropriety in running the military-industrial complex.
00:23:52.000 We can't just try and cut each other's finger.
00:23:54.000 We're all in the same fucking body of earth.
00:23:58.000 It's the only way forward.
00:24:00.000 Otherwise, we're looking at what Tim's saying.
00:24:02.000 The game has been played for us.
00:24:05.000 Ian, you're angry the game is happening.
00:24:08.000 It's like watching the tide come in and you're going into the water and splashing the water.
00:24:12.000 It's like, fucking stop, water!
00:24:14.000 We shouldn't be rising!
00:24:15.000 It's like, bro, the tide is here.
00:24:18.000 That's it.
00:24:20.000 FBI raided the president's house.
00:24:22.000 Steve Bannon is likely going to jail.
00:24:25.000 Maybe they'll give him a slap on the wrist.
00:24:26.000 They shackled Peter Navarro at the highest levels of government.
00:24:30.000 They are arresting and imprisoning, or trying to, former members of this government.
00:24:36.000 Jamie Raskin put a video of me in their evidence, reading an article claiming that I was one of Trump's supporters, calling for people to come down to DC.
00:24:45.000 Fabricated outright.
00:24:46.000 And then he has the nerve to fucking text me asking for money because he's a piece of shit.
00:24:51.000 He doesn't know who I am.
00:24:53.000 He didn't know what that clip was.
00:24:54.000 And he doesn't know who I am when he's texting me for money.
00:24:57.000 These, what we are watching with the Summer of Love in 2020 when they started burning down buildings, nearly 30 or more dead.
00:25:04.000 And Kamala Harris funded the bail for these people.
00:25:06.000 And Biden staffers funded the bail for these people.
00:25:09.000 The FBI, we have been swatted now nine times.
00:25:12.000 And my private home, which is not on public record, has been swatted as well.
00:25:17.000 Where the fuck is the FBI?
00:25:19.000 I've got local law enforcement asking that question.
00:25:21.000 But a garage pole rope?
00:25:23.000 A garage pole rope they'll go after?
00:25:24.000 Twelve people?
00:25:30.000 It is beyond reproach.
00:25:31.000 I don't think so.
00:25:32.000 The country is fractured.
00:25:34.000 A cult is in charge, and it doesn't matter what else.
00:25:37.000 Trump, I don't necessarily think, is the answer.
00:25:40.000 He's got his own issues.
00:25:41.000 The fact is, the country is split in twain.
00:25:44.000 At least in two.
00:25:45.000 It's shattered.
00:25:46.000 It's millions and trillions of pieces.
00:25:48.000 I'm thinking about John Hancock and the way he handled Shea's Rebellion, which was like, you could have thrown, it was all these returning farmers from the Revolutionary War, they went back to their farms and they were bankrupt because for two years, there was no one to run the farm.
00:25:59.000 So when the city came, like, hey, we got to pay France back all our debt.
00:26:02.000 Farmers, give us metal money.
00:26:04.000 Farmers, like, we don't have money.
00:26:06.000 So they're like, all right, then we're going to take your farms.
00:26:08.000 The farmers go to the courthouse, they protest, they shut it down.
00:26:10.000 People get, I think people were even killed.
00:26:13.000 They all get thrown in prison, hundreds of people, 400 people, and eventually, Hancock realized the only way forward is to pardon this mess and come together.
00:26:21.000 That's what the point... And Biden could.
00:26:24.000 He could.
00:26:24.000 Biden could come out and say, this country has been divided for too long.
00:26:28.000 These men have paid their price.
00:26:30.000 They've been in jail for this long.
00:26:31.000 I say we clean the slate and try and repair relations in this country.
00:26:36.000 And the left would all cheer and be like, Biden's so gracious.
00:26:38.000 And the right would just be like, well, that was good, I guess.
00:26:42.000 It would be.
00:26:43.000 And pardon the people that are in prison from January 6th.
00:26:45.000 Pardon them.
00:26:46.000 Let him out.
00:26:47.000 It's time to move forward.
00:26:49.000 But that's not going to happen.
00:26:50.000 Well, it can.
00:26:51.000 But no one knows.
00:26:53.000 It's up to us, man.
00:26:54.000 And while we're mad, Cask Castle is not mundane.
00:26:56.000 It's great.
00:26:57.000 TimCast.com.
00:26:58.000 It's getting even better, you jerks.
00:27:01.000 I don't advocate for, like, just letting crime run rampant.
00:27:03.000 I would like to see a pardon of past grievances and then start immediately, you know, taking people out.
00:27:09.000 The problem is, America is a crime racket.
00:27:11.000 Like, around the world, we are doing massive, nasty shit.
00:27:14.000 You have people who are arguing that even after birth, you can kill a baby.
00:27:22.000 What is there?
00:27:22.000 What can we do?
00:27:24.000 I don't know.
00:27:25.000 I'm going to be super sappy.
00:27:26.000 The kid who was struggling, who wrote in on the super chat about how do I lead with love?
00:27:32.000 Man, again, you're already being more insightful than you know, if you're still listening.
00:27:37.000 There are solutions.
00:27:38.000 Obviously, everything you're talking about is hugely important.
00:27:41.000 Regarding third trimester abortions, only about 6% of Americans support them.
00:27:45.000 But the Democrats still tried to pass a bill that created a circumstance that would allow it.
00:27:49.000 That's right.
00:27:49.000 Well, and I also think if, like, more Democrats knew that that was happening or what that was, I blindly called myself pro-choice forever until I started learning about this stuff.
00:27:59.000 I just didn't fucking know!
00:28:00.000 It's a cult.
00:28:01.000 And it's still activated in PCs, but you can wake them up.
00:28:05.000 It is.
00:28:05.000 You can.
00:28:06.000 But it is hard.
00:28:07.000 I told this story.
00:28:08.000 I sat down with a friend of mine.
00:28:09.000 He's a very prominent figure.
00:28:11.000 I passively mentioned the abortion thing.
00:28:15.000 The Democrats' bill.
00:28:17.000 And he was like, no, no, that's not true.
00:28:19.000 And I said, bro, here you go.
00:28:20.000 I handed my phone to him.
00:28:21.000 He read it and he's like, I'm like, read this number.
00:28:24.000 And he's looking at it and he's like, this says for the health of the mother. And I said, do you
00:28:29.000 know what viability means?
00:28:31.000 And he's like, yeah, like when the baby is able to survive on its own. And I'm like, okay,
00:28:36.000 why would you abort a baby that can survive on its own? And he was like, well, it says for the
00:28:44.000 health of the mother. And I was like, how is the health of the mother served by killing a baby
00:28:50.000 that can survive on its own?
00:28:53.000 And he was like, uh, I don't know.
00:28:55.000 I'm like, that's the question.
00:28:57.000 You can remove the baby from the mother, right?
00:28:59.000 He's like, yeah.
00:29:00.000 And I'm like, and the mother, like, so if the health of the mother is she's pregnant, but if she carries a pregnancy, she'll die.
00:29:05.000 Right.
00:29:06.000 That's for the life of the mother.
00:29:07.000 The health of the mother is a whole different ballgame.
00:29:09.000 You could drive a truck through that.
00:29:11.000 And they've done that.
00:29:12.000 It could be depression, it could be any number of things that they could argue.
00:29:15.000 But the Catholic Church allows abortion for the life of the mother.
00:29:18.000 Right.
00:29:18.000 But the health is a whole different ballgame.
00:29:20.000 So my friend doesn't understand this.
00:29:22.000 This is very preliminary.
00:29:23.000 I'm like, put it simply.
00:29:24.000 If the woman is pregnant, and she can't keep the pregnancy because she will die, and the baby can survive on its own, why kill the baby?
00:29:33.000 And he said, I don't know.
00:29:35.000 I gotta look at this.
00:29:36.000 This doesn't make sense.
00:29:37.000 They wouldn't do that.
00:29:38.000 And I'm like, bro, do you think my show is fake?
00:29:42.000 I'm not making this shit up when I'm reading it, dude.
00:29:45.000 I'm not sitting here being like, haha, I'm secretly conservative.
00:29:47.000 I'm like, wow, the Democrats just did this thing.
00:29:49.000 And the left says, you're lying.
00:29:50.000 No, they didn't.
00:29:51.000 And I'm like, fucking read the bill, dude.
00:29:53.000 They tried to pass in like an omnibus bill of like a thousand pages?
00:29:56.000 Well, they tried saying we're codifying Roe.
00:29:59.000 And then Manchin rejected it, saying it actually expanded abortion dramatically.
00:30:03.000 And that was one of the things it did.
00:30:05.000 The health of the mother is even crazier, because they've justified killing viable babies because women could be depressed.
00:30:11.000 No joke.
00:30:12.000 Women have argued, if I have the kid, I'm broke, I'll be depressed.
00:30:15.000 I said, okay, kill it.
00:30:17.000 That's like, dude, if you're for that, fine.
00:30:20.000 My point is this, because I don't want to rehash the abortion thing.
00:30:23.000 We are at the point where people in this country, the banality of evil, are advocating for and voting for the killing of viable babies.
00:30:35.000 And they either don't know, or they agree with it.
00:30:39.000 All right, fine, civil war, I'm in.
00:30:40.000 No.
00:30:41.000 I would prefer absolutely none of that.
00:30:44.000 No, of course not.
00:30:45.000 But I don't see, in any strategic layout of what's been going on, how... You mentioned you can't get any of these lettuces on your show, things like that.
00:30:54.000 We can't.
00:30:56.000 How do you actually have a conversation with people who just don't care, they just want conflict?
00:31:03.000 I think it was Konstantin on the show, Kissin, is that how you pronounce his last name?
00:31:08.000 Konstantin.
00:31:09.000 Oh, shout out, he's my buddy.
00:31:10.000 Yeah, he's the man.
00:31:11.000 And he was saying that you really just can't communicate with the extremes of any time.
00:31:15.000 Yes.
00:31:15.000 The people that have their, the 8% kind of came up, vague number, but Don't waste effort focusing on them.
00:31:21.000 Focus on the people around them and then warmly it will gradually alter the extremes.
00:31:26.000 Was your friend of 40 years extreme?
00:31:28.000 No, not in my opinion.
00:31:30.000 Not until Trump.
00:31:31.000 And I was quite surprised.
00:31:32.000 Sometimes I now question the viability of our friendship.
00:31:38.000 For him to drop me because of this, I was shocked.
00:31:41.000 Yeah, it hurts, man.
00:31:42.000 But there were two others also.
00:31:43.000 We weren't quite as close as this one, but they were all three really good friends of 40 years because of Donald Trump.
00:31:48.000 It's not the extreme anymore.
00:31:49.000 There's no middle.
00:31:50.000 I had a friend, a progressive female, relatively apolitical.
00:31:55.000 She did not engage in politics, but you know, she was an urban, tattooed woman.
00:31:59.000 And one day we were talking, and we got into the issue of trans stuff that was in the news.
00:32:03.000 This was back in like 2017 or 18.
00:32:06.000 And she said something about, you know, transphobia, blah blah blah.
00:32:13.000 And then I was like, well, they're saying now that like genital preference is transphobia.
00:32:18.000 Like if you're a guy and you want a vagina, you're transphobic.
00:32:22.000 And she said, well, that is transphobic.
00:32:24.000 And I said, what does that mean?
00:32:25.000 And she was like, well, like you're saying like a trans person, even if you like women, you wouldn't date because she had a penis.
00:32:32.000 And then I was like, I said to her, I was like, are you suggesting So I was like, let me ask you.
00:32:38.000 You're female.
00:32:40.000 You prefer males, right?
00:32:43.000 And she was like, yeah.
00:32:44.000 And I was like, are you saying you could choose to be with a person with a vagina?
00:32:49.000 And she goes, well, I'd probably have to learn how to enjoy it.
00:32:52.000 And I said, isn't that conversion therapy?
00:32:55.000 And she's blocked me out, right.
00:32:56.000 Wow, I didn't know you were friends with my exes.
00:32:58.000 It sounds like she was more concerned with being right than having a real conversation.
00:33:03.000 Of course!
00:33:03.000 The issue is this.
00:33:05.000 I don't think she was concerned with being right, with being politically correct.
00:33:09.000 When you are surrounded by people who are telling you this is what you have to do and say, and then someone asks you a basic logical question, really just exploring the ideas, like, tell me what you think.
00:33:18.000 Bro, we would end I would end going on podcasts, like big ones.
00:33:24.000 And then afterwards I'd be like, Hey, what do you really like?
00:33:28.000 Isn't this a little too much?
00:33:30.000 Like, yeah, I know.
00:33:31.000 I know.
00:33:32.000 What do you mean?
00:33:32.000 Like I remember one, um, I'm trying to figure out how to do this without getting in trouble.
00:33:39.000 Let me use, let me use me as an example.
00:33:42.000 So, and this is a pretty tame, I actually told the story on Rogan.
00:33:44.000 This is a pretty tame example, which is I, um, Kid rode into the show, was super depressed, he had, not a kid, he was a father, he had a bunch of kids, he was overweight, and he wrote in for advice.
00:34:01.000 He said, my doctor said I'm gonna die if I don't lose weight, right?
00:34:05.000 And so I emailed him personally, I sent him all these healthy recipes, and I found a jiu-jitsu gym in his area.
00:34:12.000 So about six months later, I get this email to the show and this is my show and I get this email and he's like, dude, you changed my life.
00:34:22.000 I lost all this weight.
00:34:23.000 My doctor said he hasn't seen such a quick turnaround.
00:34:25.000 My kids are proud of me and I just entered my first white belt competition.
00:34:30.000 And I remember being in tears because at this point the show was going off the rails, like the marriage was falling apart, like I was depressed and I was like, okay, I'm still doing something.
00:34:40.000 I'm doing something good.
00:34:41.000 So I read the show on the air and the next day we got like 10 emails from people that said by reading his email, his success story, this dude who now will not be orphaning his fucking children, I was fat shaming the audience.
00:34:57.000 Wow.
00:34:58.000 And everybody that I talked to on the left, where I was like, I want to unload on these emails.
00:35:03.000 I want to be like, this is bullshit.
00:35:04.000 You would rather fucking, you know, keep up your shitty fucking habits.
00:35:07.000 I would never fat shame someone or make fun of them for being fat.
00:35:10.000 But if you're going to say that this guy for getting healthy on his own is fat shaming, like that's fucking mean.
00:35:17.000 He's the one who called you.
00:35:18.000 He was concerned about his own weight.
00:35:19.000 He was asking for advice.
00:35:20.000 But by me saying that losing weight is a good thing, this dude who would have died That's bad.
00:35:27.000 And everyone I talked to off air was like, oh yeah, that's bullshit.
00:35:30.000 Blah, blah, blah.
00:35:31.000 And then you go on air.
00:35:32.000 I mean, I had lunch with a prominent writer and he was overweight and he was miserable at this meal.
00:35:44.000 And we started talking about, because I've dealt with food issues and like addictive personality.
00:35:48.000 And we started going back and forth about how hard it is.
00:35:51.000 And he didn't want to order this, like, fried food.
00:35:53.000 And he was like, well, maybe I can, like, treat myself.
00:35:55.000 And it was a really sad thing.
00:35:56.000 And I was giving legitimate advice.
00:35:58.000 Weeks later, in one of the biggest newspapers in the world, wrote a piece all about fat shaming and fat is beautiful and whatever.
00:36:04.000 And I was like, bro, I saw you miserable, tortured, but you would rather put that info out to the world to make yourself feel better.
00:36:15.000 Cult is pretty key.
00:36:17.000 It is march in lockstep with what the acceptable norms are.
00:36:20.000 I'm fascinated with people where they're like, they don't get any credence till after they're dead.
00:36:24.000 And then there was like, oh yeah, they were the real deal.
00:36:26.000 But in life they're just like ignored or abused or whatever.
00:36:29.000 You're ridiculing people because they're fat is one thing.
00:36:31.000 You were not doing that.
00:36:32.000 No, I would never do that.
00:36:33.000 But to pretend that being obese is somehow as healthy as being not obese, it's ridiculous.
00:36:38.000 Right, one, especially when people are asking for help, man.
00:36:40.000 Asking for help is hard.
00:36:41.000 Being overweight is hard.
00:36:43.000 Like, dude who I sat next to on the plane looked so embarrassed sitting next to me.
00:36:48.000 Like, should have had two seats.
00:36:50.000 And looked embarrassed when, you know, the stewardess offered him cookies and he goes, no, wait, yes.
00:36:57.000 And you could just tell, like, this dude was hurting.
00:37:00.000 I was on a plane.
00:37:01.000 Sitting next to a guy who had to be 350, maybe even 400.
00:37:03.000 I was about to say about 400.
00:37:05.000 Pouring over onto my side.
00:37:07.000 And when the food cart came up, I was just like, I'll just have club soda.
00:37:10.000 And then he goes, I'll get, can I get a can of Pringles?
00:37:14.000 And I'll take a Coke.
00:37:17.000 And a Sprite.
00:37:18.000 Can I get the sandwich?
00:37:20.000 The turkey?
00:37:22.000 And I'll take a snack box.
00:37:23.000 I'll take two snack boxes.
00:37:24.000 And then I was just like, holy shit.
00:37:25.000 Yeah.
00:37:26.000 Like the dudes, he knows what he's doing.
00:37:28.000 The way he was asking for it was like, yeah, man.
00:37:30.000 And it's so sad.
00:37:31.000 And like when you can, you should be able to help these people.
00:37:35.000 And that's why one of the pieces of advice I gave to that guy was that you got to be proud of yourself when you actually do something good.
00:37:41.000 So every day it's a, it's a massive segue.
00:37:45.000 from where we were to get healthy, get healthy.
00:37:48.000 But I can appreciate it.
00:37:49.000 I just want to give a final thought on this stuff, man.
00:37:53.000 We have these two stories today, the FBI raiding Donald Trump.
00:37:56.000 The FBI raiding Donald Trump is the highest level of government fracturing beyond repair.
00:38:02.000 Then we have the Ahmaud Arbery story.
00:38:04.000 That's you.
00:38:05.000 That's you guys at home.
00:38:06.000 That's you one day walking outside and seeing somebody burglarizing your neighbor's house, and then you saying, stop that man!
00:38:13.000 And them saying, now you go to prison for the rest of your life.
00:38:15.000 Or, okay, fine.
00:38:16.000 They shouldn't have chased him.
00:38:17.000 The cops said not to.
00:38:19.000 That's you one day, picking up your phone, and following a guy and filming him, being like, that's the guy who just robbed that house!
00:38:25.000 And the police walking up and saying, you're a Karen, you're a racist, and that was a hate crime.
00:38:30.000 You're under arrest.
00:38:32.000 I'm saying it looks like we're going into deeper and deeper territory.
00:38:37.000 And interestingly enough, you're familiar with Bleeding Kansas?
00:38:42.000 No.
00:38:43.000 This was the pre-Civil War era in Kansas.
00:38:45.000 It was effectively a state civil war where they were fighting over whether or not it would be admitted as a free or slave state.
00:38:50.000 It never ended.
00:38:52.000 They say that Bleeding Kansas ended when the Civil War started because the conflict just engulfed the whole country.
00:38:58.000 Kansas now is a red state that opposes abortion that just voted to protect abortion.
00:39:06.000 Sounds to me like... The first state that apparently has voted to outlaw abortion completely since the reversal of the Roe v. Wade.
00:39:13.000 But the Supreme Court of Kansas ruled that the Constitution guarantees the right to abortion.
00:39:18.000 So they tried passing a referendum saying no it doesn't and the state voted not to put that in.
00:39:24.000 So now you've got this ruling guaranteeing it.
00:39:27.000 Kansas is looking like a hotbed of activity.
00:39:30.000 But I'll wrap up with that unless you anything else you want to add before we go?
00:39:34.000 Nothing other than that what happened with Donald Trump is an extension of the January 6th committee.
00:39:38.000 That whole thing is kangaroo court, as I've ever seen.
00:39:41.000 The Emmett Till jury was more fair than this one.
00:39:45.000 You're talking about two Republicans put on this thing.
00:39:47.000 Both of them hate Donald Trump's guts, including Liz Cheney and Kinzinger.
00:39:53.000 They don't have cross-examination.
00:39:55.000 There aren't any Republican witnesses.
00:39:57.000 It's ridiculous.
00:39:58.000 And for them to put it on at night in order to change people's point of view and to make sure that Donald Trump does not get elected in 2024, does not run in 2024, is outrageous.
00:40:06.000 This is just one more big step towards that.
00:40:09.000 All right, man.
00:40:09.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:40:10.000 It's been a blast.
00:40:10.000 I really appreciate you coming.
00:40:12.000 My pleasure.