Paige Van Zant reveals she made more money flaunting her body on Only Fans in 24 hours than she did in her entire fighting career in a single day. Plus, why women who do this have a much harder time getting quality men.
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00:00:49.000In a traditional marketplace among human beings, they are more likely to pay you if you're a woman for sexual objectification as opposed to masculine fighting.
00:01:02.000I mean, this works for a lot of things.
00:01:04.000Sometimes I walk by my closet and I look at my socks and I'm like, hmm, 50 grand right there.
00:01:09.000If I'm willing to let go of my dignity.
00:01:13.000There's a website like Only Feet or whatever.
00:01:36.000Like, I even have to, as much as I try to avoid that and don't want that to be my career, I have to acknowledge there is an aspect of my political career where people follow and watch my videos because they're like, oh.
00:02:47.000But guys who are like top tier, I'm telling you like dudes who are high status are not going to be like, yeah, I want to check who does porn on the internet.
00:03:19.000They may be psychologically competing for that.
00:03:21.000It means that the women who do this have removed themselves from the running from the highest tier guys.
00:03:26.000So that means you're going to get only the more traditional women and the high quality guys, and they're going to have lots of babies because conservatives have more kids.
00:03:33.000So there's a higher likelihood that this will result in a pressure.
00:03:38.000It may not even be noticeable to the naked eye or to the human mind, but over a long enough period of time, these women who are like, I don't want to work, I'm going to do porn.
00:03:46.000They're going to bump into a guy who's a successful business owner and he's going to be like, you know, it was really nice meeting you.
00:03:53.000I think there is a bit of a double standard here.
00:03:57.000You pointed this out the other day actually.
00:04:00.000So like you said, you were talking about wealth and how you were saying when women ask for wealthy men and men complain.
00:04:08.000It's like comparable to when- Fat chicks are like, you should like me if I'm fat.
00:04:12.000Yeah, you should like me if I'm fat, right?
00:04:14.000And there's like this, this thing where people don't realize, okay, men are like kind of laughing at women who join OnlyFans and they're going to have their lives destroyed.
00:04:22.000And a lot of these women are taking themselves out of the race for the highest quality men.
00:04:26.000But then what pocket of men does that put them into?
00:04:29.000That puts them into dating the majority of men.
00:04:32.000So the more women that go into OnlyFans, the more women that are going into like the kind of, Things that are less traditional family-oriented, that's bad for men as well.
00:05:36.000You know, there is a temptation to cheer and be like, oh, those men have taken themselves out of the running right there.
00:05:41.000Well, you know, women didn't want you anyways, if you have to do that.
00:05:44.000Women aren't attracted to porn addicts.
00:05:45.000But the reality is, the more men get addicted to porn and the more women start making porn, that's just more hurt and broken people.
00:05:52.000Yes, that's true, but that's just the oligarchification, as it were, of the sexual marketplace.
00:05:59.000That you're going to, you know, you have this trapezoid-like shape where you have all the bad people, you know, all the unattractive, because of mental status or physical beauty.
00:06:10.000And then above that, you have the more attractive, higher status people.
00:06:13.000But over time, it's starting to become a very narrow tower where very few people will be desirable.
00:06:39.000They'd be like, I think I'm gonna do cam stuff, because I need to make money, and like, I'm only making 12 bucks an hour at Starbucks, and I was like, yeah, you'll destroy your life.
00:06:47.000And then they destroyed their lives, lost a bunch of friends, got ridiculed horrendously, got dumped, and I'm just like, what did you think was gonna happen when you became this thing on the internet and made no money doing it?
00:08:20.000That's a phenomenon of feminism that is a horrible thing.
00:08:24.000Feminism has told women that all the men in the world are either their dad or the president and they forget about the fact that there are millions and millions of men who are not you know, living the life and they think that they want to
00:09:11.000Educated people are more likely to date and be with educated people.
00:09:14.000Career people are more likely to date and be with career people.
00:09:16.000So if a woman wants a good man, One of the best things she can do is actually go and get an education and a career.
00:09:21.000So here's my point, though, to go back.
00:09:22.000I want to make a point on what I was saying.
00:09:24.000The reason why I brought up female comedians and their style of comedy is that often you'll see that a lot of what they're talking about is men, men, men.
00:09:33.000These feminists and these LGBT people are so mad about the Bechdel test.
00:09:38.000Do you guys know what the Bechdel test is for those that aren't familiar?
00:12:16.000OK, so this is an interesting phenomenon, too, though, is that women doing OnlyFans tend to hire other women to do their social interactions for them.
00:12:23.000And I think it's because they may underestimate how much it's like butter being spread over too much bread when you go in and it's like you're actually exhausting your capacity for social interaction.
00:12:36.000I want people to understand what it means to be on OnlyFans.
00:12:39.000This woman, she's probably going on OnlyFans, she probably has 300 messages, and she's probably copy and pasting, oh, I'm so wet for you, oh, I'm so wet for you, oh, I'm so wet for you, over and over and over again.
00:12:50.000All these guys- What does that do to your soul?
00:12:51.000That's like, that's doing stuff to your head.
00:12:53.000If people think the content they're seeing, that they're sharing, that they're- There was one woman, she was like, I'm gonna make a million dollars this year.
00:12:59.000She's like, she has a team of seven women who are working for her, running her socials.
00:15:30.000And that was probably like part of the faith to like grow the culture in the back in the day, but that's baked into the culture.
00:15:39.000I just learned that. I mean, when you're when you're dealing with things that are traditional
00:15:45.000like that a lot of times up until the past hundred or so years, you know, if you had
00:15:51.000five kids, there was a chance that two or three of them would die.
00:15:56.000So part of the reason why religions were, were very, very much like go forth and multiply and have kids and blah, blah, blah, is because of the fact that that was how you kept your society from running from, from dying off because on a biological level too.
00:16:20.000And, like, the dude's genetic thing is go kill the bear, bring it back to the woman so that she can feed the bear to the kids while you're out killing another bear.
00:16:29.000If you want to, you know, if you want to make a pussy wet, you go kill a bear.
00:16:33.000Or get a bunch of money so that she doesn't have to fucking shove her body in front of a bunch of dudes to get the money.
00:16:38.000Like, you should be bringing the money back so that she can feed the kids while you're out getting the money.
00:16:44.000But the society's... This is what all sporting events are.
00:16:47.000It's a bunch of dudes getting all sweaty and gristly and are glistening and in the sunlight and boxing and beating the shit out of each other.
00:16:54.000And then one guy stands up and goes, I win!
00:16:56.000And then other women are like, I want that guy.
00:16:58.000Well, it's mostly men who watch that stuff too, right?
00:17:01.000Well, yeah, but like the women care about the social interactions between each other.
00:17:05.000The men care about the object orient of it.
00:17:07.000The guys want the numbers and the stats and the women want the best guy because you know what I think?
00:17:13.000I think a strong component of it is women don't care so much about their guy, they care about what other men think about their guy.
00:17:19.000The test of the man is whether or not the other men also crave and want the man, which is why they say wearing a wedding ring makes you get hit on.
00:17:42.000Here's the thing though, I think only women with psychological disorders, which unfortunately makes up for most of the world, are looking at guys with rings and thinking, I want him.
00:17:54.000Like in the film I'm doing, Empty Love for Tenet, we open it with a guy who says he wears a ring to the bar every day because that's how he gets women.
00:18:17.000Actually, let me, I have a question for you guys, though.
00:18:19.000All the men in the show, have you ever, and John, you don't count because you're like childhood sweethearts, but have any of you guys ever dated a woman that didn't have a job?
00:18:50.000Yeah, she's like, she's like, dude, she's like all all all I just sit here and complain about Democrats all day and then she makes it makes me she makes the match.
00:18:58.000I think that the communication about women is, there's a broken communication, because the way a lot of red pillars talk about it, it sounds like the best you can do is find a woman who's basically like retarded, bonker in the head.
00:19:27.000And, uh, I mean, like I, you know, to me, you know, if I had to share my life with somebody who was basically stupid, um, I mean, I don't know.
00:19:38.000I mean, look, I was married for a while and I was married to a woman that had a great career.
00:19:45.000And it was, you know, it was fine and everything.
00:19:48.000But I don't know that it's a good idea to use that as a metric as to whether or not that is an indicator of that of it's going to be a successful relationship.
00:19:59.000Well, so this is what I find interesting, too, because there's all of this data that is really strong, all corroborated, like you can go look at it yourself.
00:20:07.000That shows The more educated and the older people marry, the more likely their marriage is to be successful by significant rates.
00:20:15.000So whenever people are like, you got to find that 19 year old without a job, it's like actually you are advocating for families to fall apart actively.
00:20:22.000I want a woman with ambition, but I don't like the idea of her going off and doing some job far away where I'm not around.
00:21:10.000Well, I think... You gotta be on the same page.
00:21:12.000I think true successful relationships don't necessarily require but are greatly advantaged by being childhood sweethearts.
00:21:21.000I also think you both have to have your own money.
00:21:22.000I am in a position where I know a lot of women who are very unhappy in their marriages and they tend to have come from the trad circles and I know them all personally and obviously I'll never name names but the only reason their marriage has continued is because
00:21:55.000Back in the day, most people were childhood sweethearts to a certain degree.
00:21:59.000They grew up in the same communities, they knew each other, they went to church together, and then eventually one guy would be like, aw, shucks, can I ask your dad to let me marry you, or whatever the rules were, and the dad would be like, here's the dowry, now you get my daughter's money, or whatever.
00:22:12.000And, uh, but they knew each other their whole lives.
00:22:14.000Now we live in this weird crackpot reality where it's like you met someone for three months at a bar when you were 20, and you're like, let's get married!
00:22:21.000And then it turns out she's got these crazy beliefs about ghost aliens and crazy crackpot bullshit, and she thinks that tree bark is the cure for the common cold, and you're like, this lady's nuts, what the fuck?
00:22:32.000I knew, I knew, I knew this, uh, I dated this one chick a long, long time ago.
00:22:36.000Maybe I shouldn't say too much because I don't want to be mean, but like, I'm just going to say this.
00:22:41.000When you tell me you can read the minds of animals abruptly, I'm just like, it was very nice spending time with you.
00:22:49.000I mean, like, like I said, I mean, I was married and there, there is a certain amount of, you know, you can, you want to, to talk to each other and be on the same page and stuff, but there's only so much that you're going to get out of talking because I honestly, I'm not sure that I believe people I'm not sure that people really know what they want and can tell you the truth.
00:23:13.000They might not think they're lying right now, but circumstances will change and all the shit that they said they want, they don't want anymore.
00:23:35.000So, uh, do you guys know the feeling you get when you get a nice, heavy snow, maybe like 12 inches, the lights are dim, maybe Christmas, Christmas lights are on the tree and you're sitting down looking out the window.
00:24:02.000But, if you grew up in a similar place, in a similar environment, with similar values, when you say, I love that feeling, and you're with someone who knows that thing too, you're both sitting there being like, wow, this is the most beautiful moment.
00:24:14.000So me and my girlfriend, Christmas is fucking epic.
00:24:18.000I remember those Christmas nights, the sun's coming down, the sun's almost gone, the snow is coming down, it is quiet, you can hear a mouse squeak, and there's candles, it's dimly lit, you sit on the couch, you have hot cocoa, and it is, Heroin!
00:24:44.000That environment fucking sucks unless you have heating.
00:24:47.000I mean, we're very luxurious to live in fucking cold.
00:24:49.000But I know what you guys, I grew up in it.
00:24:50.000Why would you think that you wouldn't be in a heated area?
00:24:54.000Because I lived so much in Ohio where it was just frigid cold.
00:24:57.000I don't want to shit on your dream here.
00:25:01.000Ian, you are not cozy-pilled and you need to leave.
00:25:03.000But you can still get that cool dripping sweat where you're like, oh it's 90 but I'm 78.
00:25:09.000This is Ian intentionally trying to shit on this because no one is talking about what he's saying.
00:25:14.000No one's talking about being trapped in the cold and dying and freezing.
00:25:17.000We're talking about a shared experience.
00:25:20.000A shared experience that no one ever said to you.
00:25:23.000When I was growing up, no one ever went to me and said, hey, remember last winter when the snow was coming down, it was really quiet and the lights were very dim and you sat down there with a cup of hot cocoa?
00:25:32.000Maybe a movie was on with your family, you played a board game or something.
00:25:36.000Now, I'm in my late 30s and I say this and people go, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:25:41.000You're making me nostalgic for Christmas.
00:25:43.000It needs a word, but my point is this.
00:25:45.000Every Christmas, me and my girlfriend, mostly my girlfriend, we'll put up the Christmas lights, dim the lights, and then we'll sit there, and like the snow is coming down, and we're like, this is the greatest fucking thing ever.
00:25:54.000There's something about being able to share silence together.
00:25:57.000The song, A Song for a Winter's Night by Sarah McLachlan is the soundtrack to exactly what you're talking about.
00:26:01.000But what I mean to say is, if I was with someone who grew up in SoCal, Texas, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, and then they were here in West Virginia, and that snow came down, and I was like, come on, let's dim the lights, and they'd be like, I don't know what you mean.
00:26:49.000And then they become like, my weed-smoking girl.
00:26:52.000And then when the weed's not there, all of a sudden, Or they'll do, like, Molly together one night and be like, we need to be together forever.
00:27:24.000Uh, well, with a mind toward helping build the anti-time square, I'm looking at moving to Martinsburg to open a gun and custom machine shop around firearms.
00:27:32.000I wonder what advice you all would have for someone willing to move 1,300 miles.
00:30:36.000Here's the reality of being, uh, uh, um, what's the right word?
00:30:40.000An up-and-coming media mogul, as it were.
00:30:44.000Politicians in West Virginia are like, yo, this dude's building a massive multi-million dollar company and he wants to bring it to West Virginia.
00:30:58.000So when I say things like, we don't want to invest in this area because y'all have drag queens bringing children on stage, they're like, we don't like that either and we're going to make it stop.
00:31:07.000And I'm like, well, you know, I don't want to tell you what to do, but you should.
00:32:55.000People don't remember you, you don't walk into places and like make relationships and it's so nice when someone knows your name and even just that little interaction.
00:33:03.000But when I saw that Martinsburg was struggling, there's two things there.
00:33:38.000And then what we'll do is this will be the template for a bunch of brick and mortar shops based on, you know, individuals and their brands.
00:33:46.000And if they succeed, we open chains all around the country.
00:35:01.000I'm a filmmaker myself, so I know what a big challenge that is.
00:35:05.000And I know you guys are killing it with your production company, but Ian, I know you love white pills, and I also have a big fucking white pill for you guys.
00:35:14.000If you pull up hotshopmovie.com, you can see the flick that we made and what I'm talking about.
00:35:21.000Tim, you inspired me to actually move my production company out of L.A.
00:35:27.000And I've never been happier, so thank you.
00:35:31.000When I was still in California, I just made a bullshit press pass, and I used it to just walk into every wildfire in California for six years.
00:36:13.000Well, if you see the film, hotshots are like Navy SEALs of wildland fire, and so they say... My dad's a wildland firefighter, or he was for a while.
00:36:24.000Dude, so then you know the entire environment, man.
00:38:07.000Yeah, we had to pay an aggregator to get it up, but I'm curious, like, with your latest doc, what would you say the biggest challenges you guys had since, like, I mean, this is totally independent.
00:38:21.000Us both being ADHD, literally, our mental problems.
00:38:28.000No, it's mostly the social components, like reaching out to people, getting them involved, having like cohesive visions for the path forward.
00:38:36.000Yeah, okay, so the main challenge with these sort of things, and we ran into this when, you know, when we did Host as well with Cernovich.
00:38:44.000It's getting people from the other side to sit down for an interview.
00:38:49.000That's why in this doc, too, we just said right from the get-go, this is a doc where we talk to pro-gun advocates, because the mainstream media, you usually get the anti-gun angle anyway, so this doc's gonna be, it's gonna be a pro-gun thing.
00:39:01.000I mean, we included their angle in it, but we were mostly kind of debunking.
00:39:06.000We did interview a professor that did give the kind of, the other side, but It wasn't that strong that it would have added anything significantly debunking the rest of the doc, so it didn't feel... Yeah, he was kind of more in the middle with things, too.
00:39:23.000Like himself, he was a member of the Brady campaign on the left, but he was also a member of the NRA.
00:39:31.000I kind of want to release that interview anyways at some point.
00:39:35.000Would you guys do, like, supplemental stuff?
00:39:36.000Like, would you release the, you know, cutting room floor clips and stuff like that?
00:39:41.000Yeah, I mean, I was gonna maybe do some of it for my Subscribestar, but Tim, if you wanted some of the longer interviews for your guys, like, yeah, we've got the footage.
00:39:58.000It's always sad, you know, when you do these long interviews and you only use like maybe five minutes in the film and you have to because otherwise you'll have a six hour film.
00:40:07.000But yeah, so much gets left on the cutting room floor that it's kind of a shame.
00:40:12.000So it's nice to do something like that, for sure.
00:40:14.000Six hour film, so we do six one hour episodes.
00:41:22.000You're selling it on your website, is that what you're doing?
00:41:24.000Well, we posted it on our website just because we didn't want to wait for Amazon to get it up.
00:41:29.000And, you know, there's a big issue with Congress with the firefighters getting their pay cut, so we just wanted it up and in the public sphere.
00:41:35.000But, dude, we actually, we tried to reach out to you at one point, but I know you guys are swamped because you're so successful.
00:41:43.000But we were, dude, we were willing to just, hey, slap Tim Kast on the end of it, you guys post it.
00:41:48.000Because, dude, I make good money doing what I do.
00:41:51.000I just do a lot of commercials and stuff, but I want to get eyeballs on it.
00:41:56.000And I value what you guys do so much with building culture.
00:42:00.000And this is like the most unwonk independent movie.
00:42:04.000And I was very stubborn about not changing it.
00:42:07.000Because you guys show us like every day that you can do it.
00:42:11.000And Tim, I know you've turned down a lot of offers from other people.
00:42:16.000And the fact that you don't do it is so inspiring to us that I would love to collaborate with you guys at some point.
00:42:23.000Yeah, I mean, depending on what, we could talk, you know, like off show and see what your plan is for the film.
00:42:50.000Yeah, let's, uh, I don't know the best way to, uh, advance communication because I literally don't do anything.
00:42:56.000Like I said, Allison runs the whole company, and my email, I get like 500 emails a day, so I can never read anything, but I don't know, what's the, what's the, do we have any ideas, like, the best way to, uh... Uh, if you reach out to me on, uh, TwixDM.
00:43:22.000So she's- I sent her the link a while back, so you- Oh, okay, okay, great.
00:43:25.000Well, you can message her again, too, and let her know, you know, to- to- to reach out to me, and then- because basically what happens is I'll get an internal message, and then I'll immediately forward it to Allison.
00:45:05.000See that requires like building the infrastructure for the pay it forward stuff.
00:45:09.000Perhaps moving forward as we start building things one step at a time.
00:45:12.000The general idea right now is we're gonna dump probably, I don't know, six figures in terms of marketing on YouTube and then depending on the result even just go nuts and do a lot more.
00:45:24.000The idea should be that anybody who goes on YouTube will know this documentary exists, and we want to make it culturally ubiquitous.
00:45:31.000So at the very least, it is beneficial if there is some guy on the left like, I didn't watch that stupid fucking thing, but he knows we made it.
00:45:40.000The general idea is, you are the worst pirate I've ever heard of, but you have heard of me.
00:45:56.000Now, ultimately, though, I think first priority, of course, is the ads will result in people becoming members, which allows us to make more documentaries.
00:47:44.000We could put 10 million dollars in advertising.
00:47:47.000Because it means we are making more money than the cost of the advertisement, which is the goal, until you reach market saturation and then everyone's already seen the movie, but that would be the ideal.
00:48:26.000The only way we can do it is that if we're going to do a pay it forward system that someone can buy someone else a membership and then that person will be given the opportunity to renew a month later.
00:48:35.000Yeah, so someone could pay your initial 10 bucks, be like, hey man, become a member, watch this stuff, I'll sign you up today, you'll get a code, put in your information, your first month is paid for already, and then next month it'll say, hey, would you like to become a member?
00:48:48.000But then it's like, some people who are like, nah, I don't feel like signing up, dude, I'll sign you up, and then just log in with your info, and they'll be like, okay, if 10% of those people are like, yeah, I'll stay as a member, why not?
00:49:07.000You buy a monthly subscription that auto-cancels, but they'll get an option to re-up it.
00:49:10.000I don't know, we could even theoretically get it on Amazon.
00:49:13.000If we put it on Amazon, I'd want to sell it for like $15 because, look man, if someone signs up to become a member and then stays a member, that is infinitely more valuable than someone who just bought a documentary one time.
00:50:08.000That's a great idea because then it's like, People could just be like, I know you don't want to sign up, but here you go, you'll get a free month if you do watch this documentary.
00:50:17.000At the very least, you get to watch this for free and they'll be like, oh, okay, cool.
00:50:25.000I do want to shout out everybody in the Discord and everybody that works behind the scenes for TimCast that makes this shit possible because it's pretty cool.
00:51:04.000In your book, Barbarians, How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation, you discuss several factors affecting us.
00:51:13.000Since then, we've seen significant changes in the world.
00:51:16.000How do you think these factors have impacted us, such as the continued influence of social media, the shifting demographics, religion, and economic challenges?
00:51:26.000Yeah, I mean, if I were to go back and rewrite that book, because I remember I was like 19, 20 when I started that, I would definitely focus more on the age of social media.
00:51:38.000I kind of, I feel like 2015, 2016 when I got into social media, that was when the political kind of rigging, mass censorship, algorithm changes were really going through the roof and I hadn't experienced that when I was growing up.
00:51:53.000The internet was still a bit of the Wild West, so that wasn't included in the book.
00:51:58.000And then the economic crisis and inflation and lockdown, none of that had happened when I wrote Barbarians.
00:52:05.000So I didn't make the connection between the demographic changes and cultural changes between the economic and housing crisis in Canada.
00:52:29.000I've started a few books and they have focused more on social media and you are reminding me that there are people out there that would buy and read my books and I should probably get down to the grind and finish the writing that I've started.
00:53:21.000Steven Marsh did it with his last book, but he said he can't own the copyright because it's an AI, self-generated.
00:53:26.000And then he went in and edited it and was like, yeah, interesting concept.
00:53:30.000You could plow like eight books out maybe at 10 times the speed.
00:53:35.000I was just having a thought you know that that shooter manifesto came out today um or the other day yesterday yeah the day before they just don't make shooter manifestos like they used to you know like they used to make these really long well-thought-out ones and now they're just like little scribbles on a notebook this one tick-tock generation this one may have a bite-sized uh on some information The reports were saying yesterday that it may be much longer than what we got, but we only got a three page... Yeah, yeah, it still didn't look like it was gonna be a Ted Kaczynski, you know.
00:54:06.000Yeah, it doesn't seem... I mean, not everybody was Ted.
00:54:09.000It doesn't seem like a traditional manifesto.
00:54:11.000It just kind of, you know, it seemed like a notebook that... The TikTok manifesto.
00:54:17.000To be fair, Ted's, like, you know, the Industrial Revolution and its consequences was that, like, that is not...
00:55:34.000And vocals by myself, and we're making a bunch of new stuff with a bunch of different people in Discord, different genres, kind of just trying to cross network each other.
00:55:42.000Let me know if I can get in somehow, that's sweet.
00:59:07.000We're going to check the metrics and then we're going to go nuts and just crank out more.
00:59:11.000We have three different commercials plus an extended clip.
00:59:15.000We're going to run those as ads and I want to put them on everything.
00:59:17.000I want someone who's like searching for how to make beef bolognese or whatever, just going to get this as a commercial and be like, what's going on?