On this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we discuss the new law that requires all public employees in Dallas, Texas, to use a transgender person's preferred pronouns, even if they don't identify as transgender. We also talk about Jordan Peterson's recent case of compelled speech and why it's a bad idea.
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00:00:32.000I'm not sure what this is, but they say Dallas mandates trans pronoun use.
00:00:36.000An internal City of Dallas Gender Transition Toolkit requires all public employees to use a transitioning person's preferred pronouns regardless of personal beliefs.
00:00:44.000The document obtained by the Dallas Express via an open records request lays out the protocols and procedures adopted by the city to support an inclusive and productive workplace environment.
00:00:54.000Okay, I'm not super interested in going into the nitty-gritty details of their protocols for the public, but this is something we've seen in quite a few places, so I thought it'd be interesting to break down.
00:01:04.000The government-mandated use of pronouns, I think, is funny because Jordan Peterson warned us about this.
00:02:21.000What they're basically saying is, in external conversations where this person is not involved, you have to use their pronouns.
00:02:27.000So who's actually getting triggered by this?
00:02:28.000It's not the person that's being talked about.
00:02:30.000It's the person that, like, so if you're talking to somebody and you misgender the other person that you're talking about that's not there, It's the other person that's, you know, in jail.
00:03:55.000And then the third person can say, my pronouns are Lord Valsiferon, Herald of the Winter Mists, and Lord Valsiferon, Herald of the Winter Mists self.
00:04:08.000So the line that the people draw on this, or the activists draw on this, is there's that man that was running for Congress or something as a woman, and it was very clear what he was doing, but he used their platform, and he's like, no, he's like, I'm experimenting, and I realize I can go right back to what I was before, because gender is fluid, you know, and he's like, and I'm questioning, and he was using like all their terms, and they're like, you're making fun of us, and like, they were so mad about it, and that's their line.
00:05:26.000And it's, no, no, my liege, it's not M-Y-L-I-E-G-E, it's my liege, it's M-I-L-E-E-J.
00:05:33.000It's a word, trust me, just say my liege now, to me!
00:05:37.000Because nothing is absolute with this.
00:05:39.000And the proper way to speak my pronoun is on one knee.
00:05:43.000Otherwise, you're not conveying the idea properly.
00:05:45.000Yeah, that's the only way your body can make the tone.
00:05:47.000Language is not just about... I need you bowing to make the tone.
00:05:50.000Well, my name is a combination, my pronoun is a combination of sign language and spoken language, because I want to be inclusive to everybody, even those who are signing.
00:05:58.000So, in order to perform my name properly, my pronoun, you get on one knee and say, my leash.
00:06:21.000The whole thing is people ask me what should they call me if they want to respect me, but they can't use my pronouns for religious reasons or whatever.
00:06:29.000I just say use my name, exactly what Josie said earlier.
00:06:32.000Other than that, I don't really care what you call me.
00:06:34.000You can call me a dipshit for all you care.
00:06:37.000I'm not gonna take you seriously, but it's the freedom of speech and freedom of association, you know, the whole thing.
00:06:44.000Dude, people on Twitter call me all sorts of names all the time.
00:06:49.000It's like, you're saying, I have to use your pronoun of Z-Zer, but you can call me Fuckwad all the- No, no, you're not- I'll use your pronouns, you're not allowed to call me Fuckwad.
00:08:16.000So when somebody says, you know, you're a man, I'm like, well, technically that's accurate, but it doesn't tell the full story of how I live my life and how I present myself to society.
00:08:28.000Like that's, that's the whole difference.
00:08:30.000That's why we use trans woman instead of man.
00:08:33.000But I do think trans women are a subsection of men.
00:08:39.000And man, I feel like that would help a lot of people sort themselves out if they started thinking, like, they don't cease to become what they were, they're just something else now, or they're changing who they are.
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00:10:37.000Yeah, but the thing is, is attraction.
00:10:40.000If you're attracted to the female form and you like trans women and only women, it's not fair to say that you're gay or bi simply because, you know, you do date males.
00:10:50.000I think that there can be, it's like the difference between, you know, sex and gender.
00:10:54.000Or you can just say, that's homosexual.
00:10:57.000Yes, you're in a homosexual relationship, but you're not It's not necessarily a gay relationship.
00:11:02.000So I think I get what you're saying, like, it is... If you're defining gay as in straight up homosexual activities, it is homosexual.
00:11:12.000But actually that may not accurately describe to someone what it means to be in a gay relationship because two dudes who are like two bears in leather, you know, vests or whatever, When people think gay, they might think it's like two overt men together, and they're not thinking a trans person.
00:11:28.000So, it may be colloquially correct, but maybe could be conveyed better.
00:11:32.000I was thinking like, why is it that there's transgender and transsexual and transvestite?
00:11:40.000Yeah, so well that's it's kind of this is what happened so transvestites and transsexuals were the old terms it actually was like crossdresser transvestite and Transsexual and the only one that was ever considered the T was the transsexual because that's transsexuals Take hormones and take the steps to live full-time in society as the opposite sex they take the hormones They do surgeries they do all that transvestites are basically crossdressers who like drag queens Yeah, or just people that go out, they'll go out, they might go to the bar and stuff like that.
00:12:45.000The reason, I mean, I don't know, This is what got us into trouble though.
00:12:51.000So, and this goes back to your other question too, is transgender is a thing because that's what the postmodernism, that's the umbrella term that encompasses everything that means that you don't identify as your given sex.
00:13:03.000And so, while transsexual would pretty much mean like what you're talking about, Um, the term has been around for so long, it wouldn't be apt to, you know, that's why we're trying to go back to it.
00:13:15.000That, uh, that Kelly Cadigan blocked me on Twitter because I said that, uh, you know, Kelly got very mad that I tweeted something that I've tweeted several times, a very cold academic statement that, uh, It was gay for a male to have relations with a trans woman because it is homosexuality.
00:13:38.000It is two males who are engaging in sex with each other.
00:13:42.000And then Kelly said something like, imagine thinking a gay man wants to have anything to do with my body or whatever, and it's like...
00:13:50.000It's not about... Look, there are some gay guys who like small effeminate men.
00:13:55.000Are they straight because the men are effeminate?
00:14:25.000But I don't understand why they're so offended by it.
00:14:27.000If these people, like, when Lance was on the show and he said, it's not gay to engage in sex with an adult human male who is trans, I'm like, why are you offended at the idea that someone would call you gay?
00:15:58.000And then the funniest thing he said was, he said to Ian, I think you asked, like, what if, like, a woman is manly and, like, you know, big and manly and muscular?
00:16:39.000We're all confused is because one of the, so Marx in the Communist Manifesto wrote all the ways to overthrow, overthrow a culture, overthrow society, and those were history.
00:16:50.000You take away their history, you know, you destabilize their nation.
00:16:53.000One of the other destabilizations that he listed was eternal truths.
00:16:57.000Eternal truths are just things that you know to be true.
00:20:01.000I've spoken about it like this, you know, the pendulum theory, it's like, I've always said I do what I do because I don't want the pendulum to swing too hard back the other way.
00:20:10.000I like that it's starting to move back, but what it's starting to feel like now is, instead of a pendulum, it's like a rubber band.
00:20:14.000The left is pulling so hard, so hard, and it's about to snap, and yeah, and it's just gonna cause a whole lot of chaos on people in the middle.
00:20:24.000Or it'll snap their own hand if you're doing that.
00:20:27.000They will pull to the left and the rubber band itself will snap.
00:20:29.000So another I'm sorry, I'm eating these nuts.
00:20:33.000But another another thing about this, if you think about like what I had said about communism and stuff, how that's infiltrated into every institution, everything.
00:20:40.000I mean, it's in big tech, it's in It's in Big Pharma, it's in the schools, the universities, it's every single institution has it.
00:20:47.000So things like Bud Light, the richest people at the top of Bud Light are not going to get hurt.
00:21:14.000Well, and you know how they're doing it.
00:21:16.000My last op-ed that I wrote in Human Events was kind of about this, because what you're seeing now, and I've seen it a lot in a lot of these protests, like the Riley Gaines protests and stuff like that, Where it's you can tell like you can look and you can be like those aren't those people aren't even trans like they're Not doing this, but they're pushing it under the transgender name because it's been so over-encompassing So what happens is that they tried to do the same thing with BLM with CRT to push the same agenda but what that
00:21:43.000required was for you know black people to be on board with the ideology and then execute the violence.
00:21:51.000It's why you saw a lot of the violence was Antifa who was not black and was white trying to execute this violence in their name.
00:21:58.000What they realized is they couldn't do that, and so with queer theory, all Trantifa has to do is go out there, self ID into the trans community, cause all this violence, cause all this chaos, In our name, and then when they've destroyed the acceptance rate of trans people, they will simply self-ID out of the category, leaving the transsexuals to clean up the mess and deal with the fallout from it.
00:22:29.000I mean, it's why you've seen the rhetoric so much higher on the right, because you're seeing people move from the more centrist position.
00:22:39.000You know, the whole, I'm done being nice to trans people ideas are coming out there because it's just people that were once nice to trans people and, you know, we're fine with it.
00:22:50.000Like, even Kelly J. Keene said in 2013 that, I don't know why some radical feminists are so hateful towards actual transsexuals and now look where she's at in speaking on the issue.
00:23:03.000When Dylan Mulvaney prances around in heels, I've been saying this for a whole time, it's not just mocking women, it's mocking trans people.
00:23:19.000You'll have two warring factions, and then the third faction will come in and be like, God, both these guys could stand to be knocked down a peg.
00:23:26.000I'll go into one and make it look really bad, set up more hate for one side than you create, or even two sides that aren't at odds.
00:23:34.000You go in and create the conflict that puts them at odds.
00:23:37.000So there's not just the right and the left here.
00:23:39.000There are other organizations and factions that are attempting to hijack and coerce the system.
00:23:45.000Using things like, well, whatever the popular movement of the day is, I guess BLM and the trans movement today.
00:24:16.000You guys earlier were talking about state-sponsored currency.
00:24:20.000I think, like Ian may have mentioned, like Forticoin.
00:24:22.000And I found that just interesting because there are states that are already taking back some of their authority when it comes to the creation of legal tender.
00:24:33.000What comes to mind for me specifically are what's called Goldbacks, and I'm not sure if anybody here has heard of them, but there are three states that are creating them.
00:24:44.000You mean the ones that have already been created?
00:24:45.000Because I live in Utah, I went to University of Utah, that's where I have my alma mater, so I've seen them before, the Utah ones.
00:24:52.000I was going to go grab some, but I forgot my keys.
00:25:15.000No, I just you know, like I said, I wanted to bring that up and see what your guys' thoughts were on it.
00:25:19.000I mean, I find it interesting that they're actually trying to use the gold as the medium of exchange and not Trying to exchange it through some type of, you know, fiat, right?
00:25:29.000And people aren't a super big fan of the premiums you pay, but inflation covers that in like less than two years.
00:25:35.000So, no, that was really my question was, have you heard of them?
00:26:02.000And then the cost of producing, it's actually pretty decent because they've got to put the, the, it's like a polymer casing over it.
00:26:07.000So that actually increases the cost of it, which interestingly, you could argue the gold of the bill is worth $4, but the, because of the manufacturing, it makes it worth five or something.
00:26:17.000Yeah, my concern with having every state having their own currency is if you can't use Florida currency in Utah, because they're not organized enough without a federal centralization focus, and then that that dissolves the union, essentially, if we're not all bound by the currency, which is like the kind of the through line of what we got going in the United States.
00:26:36.000The upside, of course, is that states would have their own currency and that they could Well, that's what happens with international travel.
00:26:41.000and stuff. So as long as the currencies are interrelated, like as long as I can spend
00:26:45.000main coin in Utah and Florida and every other state, I think that it can function.
00:26:50.000Well, that's what happens with international travel. If you go overseas and you use your
00:26:54.000credit card, it will automatically do the conversion rate.
00:27:00.000So digital will automatically do that, that what you're talking about.
00:27:04.000You can be like, oh yeah, I have a bank full of Florida coin and you go to Georgia and you spend it there and it will, your bank will automatically do it.
00:27:12.000Now that could also increase, you know, transaction rates though too with, with Visa and everything, but I'm not sure.
00:27:19.000And if the power goes out, always got to be ready for the power to go out.
00:27:22.000So as long as you, it's legal for you to go into like a Target in West Virginia and spend California coin there.
00:27:29.000Well, it's interesting because I remember I grew up, again, I grew up in Michigan and we used to go to Canada.
00:27:36.000And there was a point, you know, we would always go and Canadians would love the American dollar until the Canadian dollar became worth more than the American dollar for a little while.
00:27:46.000Then they would never accept the American dollar.
00:27:48.000And it was really weird because we always accept Canadian coins.
00:27:55.000It's a little bit funny like that, but you'd have those same type of issues going across state lines.
00:27:58.000Like $20 here is not $20 in another state.
00:29:08.000—and a bunch of other bankers convinced everybody to go on this great cruise of this unsinkable ship, intentionally sank it to kill off all of this wealth, and then all their money was locked—was in banks with no one to claim, and they used that to create the Federal Reserve.
00:30:05.000But finally the right is standing together to boycott, which is great and works.
00:30:09.000I have a dozen friends that have stopped shopping there as of last week.
00:30:11.000But looking back over the last 20 years, I'm wondering what the panel now thinks of the idea that quote-unquote gay marriage was the first domino that fell
00:30:20.000that led us to this point because they asked for acceptance and fair treatment and the erasure
00:30:25.000of the eternal truth that Josie just mentioned, an eternal truth, something that has
00:30:29.000been known through all of human history, that marriage is between a man and a woman.
00:30:33.000An inch by inch, the right retreated so as not to be labeled bigots and now look where
00:30:37.000we are, still labeled as exactly the same bigots, if not worse.
00:30:41.000We've gained nothing and lost everything on the way.
00:30:44.000Well, the problem is the right retreated and everything.
00:30:47.000The idea to me that like Dave Rubin is going to be happy and have a family, I literally
00:30:54.000I think Dave is going to be a better father and give a better opportunity to his kids than a large majority of people in this country could or would.
00:31:07.000And that's not condemning a lot of people who can't.
00:31:09.000It's just saying, you know, I think he will create a great opportunity and intelligent upbringing for those children, which is a really good thing.
00:31:16.000Shamus's agrees because they use surrogacy and I think I'm not sure if it was Libby but others agree and I definitely understand those points and I think they're they're actually pretty good but in terms of you know marriage saying that two adults who feel a certain way and love each other Should be barred because we're upset that pedophiles are now infiltrating.
00:31:39.000I can certainly agree with the idea there's a slippery slope and we have to be sure about it, but, like, we have to be sure that we're fighting against it.
00:31:45.000If we say, okay, you are two adult males or females, you love each other, one's in the hospital and dying, and you want the same rights and access as any other couple, I think that's appropriate and fair.
00:31:57.000Just because we allow that doesn't mean that because we did, we now have pedophiles.
00:32:31.000So separating kink from the rights of individuals who love each other is something that should have been done and never was.
00:32:38.000But to put it simply, Uh, if you came to me and said, should, you know, Dave Rubin and his husband be allowed to live and have the same rights as a male and female couple, I'll say, yeah, I understand why people don't like that, and you don't have to agree that it is a legitimate marriage.
00:32:54.000I just want to make sure that he can be there for the person he cares about and he loves.
00:32:58.000But just because we allow that doesn't mean we allow the groomers all over the place.
00:33:04.000And so the issue with the pride stuff is that they're introducing sexual concepts to children and they've infiltrated.
00:33:11.000So if a few years ago, we were like, look, if two people love each other, it's none of my business.
00:33:57.000So I think, like you were saying, it's if... I don't think the government should be involved in marriage in the first place, but if it is, it should be equal across the board.
00:34:05.000Anybody should be able to get married that loves each other.
00:34:07.000I wrote a piece for Reality's Last Stand that was called, actually, the Slippery Slope Fallacy about this.
00:34:13.000And I talked about this because you...
00:34:16.000It makes a lot of assumptions that gay marriage was the catalyst that led to this.
00:34:22.000If you were okay with gay marriage, and you think that you were wrong at that point, then you're making a lot of assumptions that what's going on now wouldn't have happened if gay marriage wasn't legalized.
00:34:32.000And at what point do you go back and say, this is where I agreed with this, but I don't want to go past this point?
00:34:38.000Because you can go all the way back to, and Josie loves this, because you could go all the way back to women getting the right to vote.
00:34:45.000You could say... You stole my answer, Sarah!
00:35:31.000We advanced to the point where we could mass-produce weapons.
00:35:34.000You could hand to someone and say, point and pull.
00:35:37.000Now people didn't need to be trained fighters as much.
00:35:40.000With the musket, you still needed people to undergo some training, but it was easier to have militia where you could throw someone a musket and say, here's how you load it, go do it, and you can be effective.
00:35:49.000Once we got to the point where we had repeaters, we were basically like, anyone's a warrior now.
00:35:54.000Once that happened, we no longer, like, Once we got to the point where people could shoot a bear, shoot a wolf, shoot any intruder, safety in this country skyrocketed.
00:36:04.000The threats to women diminished, and now you had more and more women emerging who were independent.
00:36:11.000Why were there no suffragettes hundreds of years earlier?
00:36:14.000Because they were with their husbands, and they had to protect themselves from danger, and so they would not want to go out into the woods and fight.
00:36:22.000They would do homely things, and the men would go off and do the more dangerous things.
00:36:32.000Most of the men died and they died first because the women did not work.
00:36:35.000They explicitly said to the women, stay here and stay safe.
00:36:39.000Because women are very important because they have babies.
00:36:41.000Once we got to the point where women could be safe with no family and no husband because people had guns and women could have guns, all of a sudden now you're getting more and more women who are independent and need to make decisions for themselves.
00:36:55.000So We could say we could solve this whole problem by getting rid of guns, right?
00:37:00.000We return back to a tribal nature, we reduce the overall level of mass safety, and it creates a situation where men are dying substantially more often than women, and women are more worried about their safety, and then you get rid of women voting.
00:37:19.000My point is this, all of these things lead to this moment.
00:37:23.000It wasn't just one day, we went, you know what, I thought about it and women should vote!
00:37:27.000It was, you have a bunch of women who aren't in families who are now demanding the right to vote.
00:37:32.000Whereas women, even to this day, women who are married are more likely to be Republican.
00:37:36.000Yeah, I think also the gay marriage thing, I'm not too concerned with it, because I always think of marriage as a legal construct, not as a religious construct.
00:37:47.000The state is saying now you get tax benefits, so it's like a business contract.
00:37:51.000Whether you love each other or not is almost irrelevant.
00:37:55.000And I think that the mass indoctrination and sexualization of children is a result of the internet and like socialized communism and this attempt to disrupt the United States or the ethics of the United States from outside forces that would have happened even if it was still illegal for gay people to get married.
00:38:15.000Yeah, remember, the LGBT community already fought off NAMBLA one time.
00:38:45.000One, I still wonder if the one vote would have gone through if they would have had to do the same as men and A, sign up for the draft and B, sign up for Fire Brigade because somehow we got out of both of those but still got the vote.
00:38:55.000And the other point I just want to say is for Ian, I love you.
00:38:59.000I've been praying for you for months and do me a personal favor.
00:39:02.000Sit down sober and read the book of Romans.
00:40:17.000Women weren't at a risk of being drafted and women were like, oh, hey, this sounds really nice.
00:40:23.000You know, and that's like the kind of bills that we're seeing pass through Congress right now, like the I Love Everybody bill that kills puppies.
00:40:28.000You know, this is the kind of stuff that we're dealing with, and it's because they vote for it because they vote with their hearts, which is admirable to feel with your heart.
00:40:35.000You know, men have a certain position, women have a different position, and these are just biologically the way it is.
00:40:41.000It's why men protected women, you know?
00:40:43.000If I was in Congress, I would do nothing but that.
00:40:45.000I would make, like, the Saving Cute Puppies and Protecting the Baby Kittens Act, and then it would be like, we abolish the Department of Education.
00:40:54.000Like, why are you voting against saving puppies?
00:40:57.000Like, your bill just gets rid of the Department of Education.
00:41:16.000It would be like the, you know, protecting cute, cuddly babies and giving free money to everyone bill.
00:41:24.000And then it's just like the Federal Reserve has abolished it.
00:41:28.000The thing is what Congressman Massey does he does like one-line bills because he's like that's all they need to be and honestly I agree with that but when it comes to these you need to fluff the shit out of them and then put All at the bottom.
00:41:41.000Yes exactly because they don't read the whole thing.
00:41:45.000State bills are like one paragraph and it's super easy to get context on what's going on.
00:41:49.000We do the Providing welfare, protecting the environment, and providing schooling for all people's act.
00:41:58.000And then it'll be three pages of, in this country we recognize that it's very important for people to have good job, good education, good skills, so they can live their lives, be better, and have the American dream.
00:42:10.000And then you go on and prattle on for a bit and it says, but in a strong and protected environment it's also equally important.
00:42:14.000And then finally at the bottom, hereby it be resolved that the Federal Reserve is abolished effective immediately.
00:43:30.000Thinking about many of the conversations that you guys have been having related to Bud Light and Target, it seems as though the leadership from these corporations breached their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders.
00:44:27.000Between employers creating environments rife with discrimination, money management leveraging their investors' capital to fund personal politics to the entire system, seemingly coordinated, and it seems like it's working towards the destruction of this petrodollar, it seems like we have to have some sort of recourse on this.
00:44:49.000I can't believe that this doesn't allow us to step in and take these people to court in some way.
00:44:57.000Yeah, that's actually pretty, it's like a dawn of that.
00:45:01.000That idea is dawning, I think, on people realizing that impact investment actually could be considered a violation of your fiduciary responsibility to your clients.
00:45:10.000Well, and that's what he's saying is who is actually interesting because didn't Joe Biden veto a bill that would have made it illegal for public 401k funds to invest into ESG funds?
00:45:29.000I'm pretty sure his only veto has been on that issue.
00:48:15.000But it's like, when you have that surgery, not only, and it's not even just the way that it looks, even if it looked completely real and was functional, it's not if you have complications, it's when.
00:49:17.000I'm pretty sure America First Legal is suing over a failure to uphold their fiduciary duties.
00:49:22.000So people are going to recover those losses.
00:49:24.000That's usually the way to affect change.
00:49:28.000Like even with like the, you know, transient of kids.
00:49:32.000Like, Chloe Cole's lawsuit is going to be the biggest thing that happens in this because it's going to de-incentivize the transient of kids.
00:49:39.000Until you actually de-incentivize doctors from doing it, they're still going to want to do it.
00:49:44.000And so, in states where you can't pass bills, that's the way to do it.
00:49:48.000And then that will reverberate around the country.
00:49:50.000The one that was doing it in Florida was getting around lawsuits because she didn't have insurance or something.
00:50:20.000Jez Jennings got a surgery while in Florida under Ron DeSantis.
00:50:25.000Yeah, I would think if the doctor couldn't pay the malpractice insurance claim out but lost a lawsuit, then she would spend time in jail as recompense.
00:51:46.000I feel like America First and CABA, we kind of just got answered, but maybe elaborate deeper into this.
00:51:53.000This is for Sarah, for Arthur's comment.
00:51:55.000Do you believe that the Pride movement, which is much very different than I consider from the LGBT, do you believe that the Pride movement has swallowed the LGBT?
00:52:06.000And then, is it possible to separate the two?
00:52:08.000And by pos- like, separate the two, like, I definitely see you, Dave Rubin, Blair White, Buck Angel, as much more of these, you know, the sane members of the community.
00:52:17.000Especially, like, Doug Smurrey, who, like, disavows almost the whole commu- like, the whole, in general, community, in general.
00:52:29.000And actually, me, Blair White, Buck Angel, and Marcus Dibb are kind of working together right now to try to make trans... I actually have a hat coming.
00:52:39.000It's a red hat, and it says, make the T transsexual again, because we need to get back to the language that makes sense.
00:52:46.000Because again, transsexuals are binary.
00:52:47.000And when they changed it to transgender, it moved it into a non-binary system.
00:52:53.000And so what you're talking about, the pride movement, is the queer movement.
00:52:57.000And so yes, I've been preaching for a long time, and I think we're trying to separate.
00:53:01.000And you're seeing a lot of, you know, more LGBT people coming out that are like, we're not, you know, we're not with the queer movement.
00:53:10.000And so we are trying to separate, you know, A lot of people say, you know, drop the, you know, the LGB, drop the TQ, but I always keep it LGB and T, drop the Q, because it's the Q that's pushing everything onto, and it's kind of swallowing the rest of the community.
00:53:25.000So it is going to take, from within the community, to stand up and drive everybody else out.
00:53:31.000Tim, real quick, the Senate just voted to suspend the debt ceiling and cut federal spending.
00:53:35.000Biden plans to sign the bill into law averting a U.S.
00:56:36.000Well, because I was also, like, I have gay friends who also, like, they say, like, LGBT sync the T, which is interesting, and I obviously wanted to ask you about that, but it's also, like, Is it even possible at this point?
00:56:51.000Is the pendulum now swinging too far to the other side?
00:57:06.000A new trans person coming out like every day it's a smaller account usually and you just got to be careful with them sometimes but you know because then they sometimes they become grifters but Yeah, I mean, I think it is possible.
00:57:19.000I mean, I'm seeing more and more enthusiasm.
00:57:22.000I hang out in And actually, the Republican Party in different areas is pulling in their log cabin chapters as well.
00:57:32.000Like, I got the bill passed to ban hormones and surgeries in Georgia with the help of the governor because I made a phone call to somebody that I knew and he made a phone call to the governor and we got it passed because he was supporting it on the floor.
00:57:49.000I think that they're listening to us and they are taking into account, you know, the LGBT community is here and there are a lot of people that we can prop up.
00:57:58.000So if you, you know, even if you're not right-wing, you can go into these different organizations that are very accepting and, you know, help you, you know, and build a movement around it.
00:58:12.000Which is what a lot of us are trying to do.
00:58:13.000I mean, you have Like I said, we have different organizations popping up.
00:58:18.000I think Buck Angel and my friend Laura started, who's a trans woman who's actually in the military, started an organization called Transsexual Unity, which is trying to take it back, you know, trying to take the T back.
00:58:32.000So we're just trying to fight to take the T back from the queer community.
00:58:36.000And then like Gays Against Groomers is still out there.
00:58:38.000There's a lot of different organizations trying to fight to separate the community.
00:58:42.000And it's going to take a movement because it's not the gay people on the left that are pushing this.
00:58:48.000It's the straight people who don't want to be gay, like Ian.
00:59:20.000I get called transphobic, homophobic, and all the phobics from allies more than I ever get hate from within the community itself, honestly.
00:59:28.000And I think that they need to do that.
00:59:30.000Like if you even look at the bill in Florida, like they always conflate it with gay people.
00:59:58.000You did, and I really thank you, Sarah, because I know that's not a fun question to ask, especially during the whole Bud Light thing.
01:00:04.000I will say, Tim, if you're going to come up for a weekend and you've got to plan it around the weather, which good luck, is Etch Can or Juno.
01:00:33.000I'm just saying for Tim, because there's no way he's going to take that milk run up to Juno, get to Ketchikan, because otherwise he's going to have to land in Wrangell, St.
01:02:55.000That's actually the case at a lot of military installations.
01:02:58.000You walk around, like, a lot of places, there's still, like, you have reporting procedures as if you find an unexploded ordnance, like, what to do, because they have to send EOD.