Mr. Bogus is our first annual Timcast Person of the Year, and we're talking about Dylan Mulvaney, transphobia, and a cat that pees on the floor. Plus, we talk about a woman who doesn't want to be called a woman.
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00:01:06.000I call him a little shithead because he pisses on the floor.
00:01:08.000But, you know, I catch him pissing on the floor and I either spritz him or I carry him to the litter box and then put him in the litter box.
00:01:50.000He's like a rockstar musician and he goes around and helps people that have problems with their cats.
00:01:54.000I would love to have him on the show and have him come out here and do an episode on Bucko and see if we can get him to stop peeing in the house.
00:02:00.000Well, Bucko, if you look at, so there's a mat, there's a litter box, and it's on the mat, and the mat has piss on it, because he knows to pee in the litter box, but he doesn't understand, like, what it means to be in the litter box, right?
00:02:13.000He doesn't want to get in the- No, no, no, he shits, but he, like, when he's only pissing, he walks in halfway with his ass hanging out, and then he pisses on the mat.
00:03:07.000You know, attempting to enjoy womanhood is incomprehensible to you.
00:03:12.000You know, whether it's that I carry tampons, that I'm too feminine, or I call myself a girl, or that I'll never birth a child, well, here's some more good news for you.
00:03:21.000I'm not enjoying my womanhood as much as I was.
00:03:23.000And my pain might be different than your pain, but it's very real.
00:03:28.000So if that was your goal, then congrats.
00:03:30.000But I'm still a woman, and I'm tired, and we don't have to be BFFs, and you don't have to follow me.
00:03:36.000Just please don't call the police on me if we bump into each other in the bathroom.
00:03:41.000You know, my only agenda is to try to find the will to wake up every day and find some ounce of happiness.
00:03:48.000And believe it or not, somehow I love ya.
00:03:53.000I am also very nervous for you just because Hopefully soon transphobia won't be as tolerated online, but your tweets are forever, and I don't want those to come back and haunt you Okay, oh Okay, my response to this was go fuck yourself asshole first of all
00:04:12.000I don't care about you, what you do, whatever the fuck.
00:05:21.000And don't you fucking call the cops on me, because I'm nervous for you about what might actually happen to you if you keep saying those things.
00:05:27.000Who was it that was on the show saying this is how communism, I think it was Jesse Kelly, was on last week, and was like, this is how communism finds its way into societies is through vulnerabilities of disenfranchised people, or people that feel like they're less than.
00:05:40.000So they went for the black community, because it was like, oh, you're suffering.
00:05:44.000Therefore, society will fix it for you.
00:05:46.000Now give over your power to the government, and we will fix it.
00:05:49.000And Dylan got invited to the White House, and now he's going full like, you better watch what you say, because I would hate for something bad to happen to you.
00:05:57.000Essentially, that's exactly what he's saying.
00:07:02.000And Dylan says in this video, I'm only carrying tampons to give to other people.
00:07:06.000Initially, Dylan was talking about her Barbie pouch, but people started saying, stop doing this.
00:07:14.000And now Dylan's saying, okay, okay, I'm not, I'm not doing that.
00:07:19.000He's inspired other men to do like unboxings of tampons and stuff like that and be like in their cars, making TikToks like, oh, let's read the back and see.
00:08:35.000I have never worked with Tampax before.
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00:09:40.000The most that happened was they sent me a few boxes of tampons back in April, just in case I bumped into anyone, including yourselves, and I gave them all away.
00:10:03.000I've never made one dollar off of feminine hygiene products.
00:10:07.000So I hope that helps you sleep better at night knowing that.
00:10:10.000And no need to bring Tampax into this.
00:10:14.000But the bigger problem at hand is that you feel me carrying a tampon around is a threat to you and your womanhood.
00:10:21.000How is someone doing something nice so repulsive to you?
00:10:24.000Because listen to this, if a man, whether he was your boyfriend or your husband, could even be your gay best friend, kept a tampon for you at his house just in case you needed it, you'd gush over him.
00:10:37.000You would run to brunch on Sunday and tell all your gal pals that he's so thoughtful and he cares and he listens.
00:10:45.000And then a trans woman does it and all of a sudden I'm the reason that there's a tampon shortage.
00:10:50.000You know, it's not because I'm misogynistic, it's because you're transphobic.
00:10:56.000And babe, caring for others, it's the bare minimum.
00:11:01.000You know, you might not like me, but I care about you.
00:11:03.000Okay, well let's see what Matt Walsh has to say.
00:11:06.000He says, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that nearly every woman on the planet would be extremely creeped out by a man who carries spare tampons around.
00:11:13.000They would not be gushing over him to their gal pals.
00:11:16.000Sydney Watson says, yeah, this is weird.
00:12:00.000It's an annoyance that I put as little time into thinking about it as possible like Dylan.
00:12:04.000Maybe your boyfriend, maybe your husband, not some rando on the internet or some random person you meet and have a conversation with at a restaurant.
00:12:11.000I think this conversation was started because Tampax posted something on Twitter saying any person, including male or female, could have their periods.
00:12:24.000If you go on their Twitter page, I think you'll see it and it's spurred on a lot of conversations with a lot of people saying, hey guys, if you're bleeding from your dick, tampons not going to help you guys.
00:13:50.000See, so I had this conversation with people around Timcast, and some of the female employees thought this was like, them was a they-them thing.
00:13:58.000Like, they were truly offended by this, and I thought it was a joke.
00:14:00.000Like, they mean them by like, your girlfriend.
00:15:09.000I don't want heterosexual people telling my children about sex.
00:15:13.000I don't want anybody doing that unless it's my choice.
00:15:16.000So that's how I feel in the discussion.
00:15:18.000And I think where conservatives get it wrong is when they conflate the issue by tying it to members of the LGBT community.
00:15:29.000And that's what Democrats are really trying to do.
00:15:31.000They're trying to make it seem that it's an attack on the gay community when no, it's an attack on the hyper-sexualization of children.
00:15:40.000You know, I, I, excuse me, I'm a guy, so I don't know, you know, I'm not knowing a whole lot about these here tampons, but this video that was sent to Tampax, is this how tampons work?
00:16:02.000It turns into a rocket ship and goes after... It turned out it was a drone the whole time.
00:16:08.000I saw that story of the lady who had her screen door open in California and a mountain lion came in and grabbed her dog and dragged it out.
00:17:05.000Well, if you remember, Disney even had a little scene in one of their movies with the fat blimp character looking for tampons and needing help finding the right tampons for themselves because they were Yeah, there's like a robot movie.
00:17:25.000No, this was all over the Twitter space.
00:17:27.000Everyone was sharing the video of this Disney clip of a male or non-binary character that was looking for tampons and needing help finding tampons.
00:20:02.000You make a nostalgia-themed hotel, and some 50-year-old dude's gonna be like, his wife left him, his kids hate him, and he's gonna go back to this 90s room and he's gonna turn on the TV and he's gonna be watching, like, an all-new Simpsons, starting now!
00:20:21.000I think it's the afterwards, because he's seeing it while he's there, that is his reality, but then as soon as he steps outside and goes, oh my gosh, I'm back to the real reality, I think then.
00:20:33.000I think they go there to kill themselves.
00:20:36.000They're like, they want to go to the time when their life was the best and feel it, and then they cry knowing it's gone, and then they eat some pills or something.
00:20:44.000Or you get the same guy renting a room over and over and over and you're like, wow, this feels so sad for that guy.
00:22:04.000You look at your former self watching the island, and are about to speak, and then head back into your time machine, ain't no one gonna believe you.
00:23:35.000And then you're like, there's only one way to do this.
00:23:38.000And then it shows you standing out in front of Fox Studios, holding the thing, saying Simpsons in an address, and you're like, That is right around when I started making YouTube videos.
00:23:45.000I had some sort of divine reckoning in early 06, late 05.
00:23:49.000I wonder if Luke went back in time and reminded me.
00:23:59.000Because Dylan was making these videos that were shockingly offensive to trans people and women, and trans people and women started getting mad at Dylan.
00:24:07.000And that's the thing that the leftists, these psychotic cultists, they were like, cheering for Dylan and inviting Dylan to the White House because they're all mentally disturbed, not realizing that even trans people are like, you're making us look like fucking idiots!
00:24:22.000So now, the only reason Dylan came out and said, I obviously don't use tampons, it's because other leftists and trans people were saying, fuck you.
00:24:34.000I think Dylan starts becoming, goes reverse to being like an actual boy or a guy, whatever, because he, in that video, he was saying, I'm so sad.
00:26:29.000Whether being trans or not is real, like Blair said, she knows people who know Dylan, and Dylan's actually trans, and I'm like, okay sure, but those videos are fake.
00:26:44.000And then Dylan did the thing where it's like, I guess a woman in Hollywood would like press her breasts together and be like, hey there, but Dylan doesn't have breasts.
00:26:52.000And so just like went like that, like on the side of his body.
00:26:57.000And it's just, it's like spitting on people.
00:27:00.000You know, it used to be back in the day, you'd be shamed and told like, hey man, don't fuck, don't fucking do that.
00:27:06.000This is like, I look at this, I look at what Dylan's doing, as the exact same thing as if a guy put on blackface and started yelling about fried chicken.
00:27:23.000And I think this is just kind of a reinvention, you know?
00:27:26.000It's gonna get old after a while, just being happy.
00:27:29.000I think this victimization is just a new reinvention to get more attention.
00:27:36.000But I think he, you know, after this, he's going to do the next thing, and then the next stunt, and then the bigger thing, and then the bigger thing, always to get attention, always to get people to talk about him, because it's a drug.
00:27:46.000When people get addicted, I mean, before this, he was a white guy, right?
00:27:50.000In society, he's like, okay, well, you know, going to college is going to be difficult.
00:27:55.000Getting any kind of promotion, getting any kind of real job is going to be fucking difficult.
00:28:13.000And that's essentially what a lot of the influencers are going through.
00:28:16.000This larger kind of drug of attention, which is, according to some scientists, equivalent to heroin when it comes to addicting people and hooking people for this hit of relevancy, this hit of life and experience that Yeah, it's stressful just in general.
00:28:33.000I mean, you guys all know, you've all been through it.
00:30:03.000No, well, I mean, I don't mean to put myself out there, but look at someone like Maya Angelou or Dr. Martin Luther King or, I mean, even Donald Trump or Elon Musk.
00:30:37.000They won't hang outside waiting of your house.
00:30:40.000They won't send you weird phone calls just because they want to be by you.
00:30:45.000I have found that's true, but piggybacking on what you're saying, I've found that if you become famous off of bullshit, your fans then think you're real and you know you're bullshit, so you think that they're idiots because they believe you, you're bullshit.
00:31:32.000When you're dealing with an online mob of people who are angry for the sake of being angry, They all just start telling lies and then someone else tells a lie because they want to be in the mob too.
00:31:42.000And then all of a sudden they're making up insane stories.
00:31:44.000Then the media gets involved and says, ooh, let's make up one of our own.
00:31:48.000People on the internet are claiming that after Tim Poole said these things, he did this and they just all fake shit.
00:31:54.000So, I think what happens with people like Dylan Mulvaney, what they're now realizing is, uh-oh, this is what you wanted!
00:32:01.000You wanted everyone staring at you and screaming at you, and it ain't fun.
00:32:05.000I don't think Dylan Mulvaney's making a whole lot of money, to be honest.
00:32:08.000A lot of these influencers don't make as much money as famous people normally would have in the past, because they're famous for being famous.
00:32:15.000There's not a whole lot you can offer beyond that, other than, like, Tampax has given me things.
00:32:50.000Publicists, PR, staged events, and everyone wants to be like that.
00:32:54.000This is what happens with social media.
00:32:57.000In the early days, or even right now, young women getting depressed.
00:33:01.000They see the posts on, like some girl is like on a boat and she's going like this, and they're like, I wanna be in a boat so bad, I wanna be like that.
00:33:07.000And what they don't realize is, this person and her boyfriend jumped on someone else's boat, took a quick picture, and then got chased off by cops who were screaming, get off that fucking boat.
00:33:16.000People are seeing a fake version of reality thinking it's real, wanting it, then when people start getting it, they're like, holy shit, now everybody hates me and wants to kill me, this is fucking stupid.
00:33:54.000Another person showed up the next day and it was targeted.
00:33:58.000So it's just like, you'd be better off being extremely, like this is why they say when you win the lottery, you don't tell anyone and you hire a lawyer immediately, form a trust, and have the lottery claimed in the name of a gibberish name trust, Gobble Blah Blow Trust.
00:34:13.000Something that's really hard to say, that no one can track, all the money goes in there, and then no one knows you have any money.
00:34:18.000I'm like on the verge of I keep thinking, like, I gotta go make a song with Ye, man.
00:34:22.000I gotta do something that, like, reinvents the world.
00:34:36.000I can't wait and sit by and watch shit fall apart.
00:34:39.000Like at least get up there if they kill me when I'm 45 they kill me when I like I don't know I can't you know, take me if you got to take me God do it Well, it's it's what you're willing to Accept, you know, I mean I see it more as opportunity you have the opportunity to influence to change That that's power.
00:35:00.000And even if your time is limited I just see that as I don't know.
00:35:08.000But fame is different from, like, career notability.
00:35:12.000Like, if you're the best engineer in the business, you'll have people who hate you, but you can walk into an engineering conference.
00:35:17.000If you're famous, a plumber, you're an astronaut, and a groundskeeper knows who you are.
00:35:23.000They don't care about your career, they just know who you are, and this means the person who thinks you stole their spoons and hid them on the moon is coming to kill you.
00:35:31.000Career Notability is like you have a following of people who are familiar with the work you've done and you have an opportunity to speak at conferences.
00:35:38.000Fame is the guy down the street, Jim Bob, who is a welder, knows who you are and hates your guts because he heard from his lefty friends on Twitter that you stole someone's cat.
00:35:47.000And now they want to kill you because of it.
00:35:53.000I'm not saying I don't think you're wrong.
00:35:54.000I think you guys probably both speak the truth about it.
00:35:57.000But there is an opportunity in being famous, where you can say something and people believe it, or point people at something and they all look at it, or a bunch of people look at it.
00:36:05.000You can do a lot of good with that power.
00:36:07.000I suppose what I'm saying is, there's a balance to all of it.
00:36:11.000With that influence, the positive, the success, comes the negative.
00:36:15.000And the most positive element is, if you were a billionaire and no one knew, You'd have all that influence.
00:36:23.000You could hire someone to say these things for you.
00:37:02.000I've kind of been weary of it and kind of careful.
00:37:06.000I can't say it hasn't been on my mind to really push things forward or to try to kind of be in the middle ground because, like, you know, I had conversations about this, you know, with you, Tim, a couple years ago.
00:37:18.000I'm like, I don't know if I really want to be up there.
00:37:21.000There's a lot of risk, there's a lot of reward, too, but it's based on a personal choice.
00:37:25.000So I've kind of been honest, half-stepping it a little bit, because I know if I step things up, there's going to be larger trade-offs.
00:37:34.000You got a billboard in Times Square in four days!
00:38:05.000And I think that's that's been kind of my deliberate thinking.
00:38:07.000Because if you look at a lot of people who get attention really fast or a lot of money really fast or anything kind of in that realm really fast, they kind of ruin it.
00:38:17.000They fuck it up and they do some fucked up shit.
00:38:19.000So I think slowly doing this is the key.
00:38:22.000The best point of my life was End of 2018, when I had about 150,000 subscribers on the Tim Pool channel and about 80,000 subscribers on TimCastNews, and I was making probably around $200,000-$250,000 per year just off YouTube alone.
00:38:36.000$250,000 per year just off YouTube alone.
00:38:39.000And then early 2019 when I was making like 300 to 400K and I was like, holy shit.
00:40:02.000And Joe had me on a tell the people, and then I started getting more followers, and then every day, this company grows, not because I'm trying to make it grow.
00:40:11.000It grows because it's like, oh, You know, we're booking guests for Pop Culture Crisis, we need a new driver.
00:40:16.000Like, we need someone who can do guest coordination for the new show.
00:40:39.000That works like what Luke was saying about going slow.
00:40:41.000It's better than getting like $200 million investment and then hiring 700 people and having, you know, it's way better to do it from the bottom up.
00:41:08.000I got a vision of us, of like the story, you know, sometimes you watch a show or beat a video game.
00:41:13.000It's like, at the end, it's like, well, Luke went on to found a colony of 10,000 individuals working for self, you know, freedom and rights.
00:42:49.000And so I think I'll live a life of service, philanthropy, whatever that looks like.
00:42:55.000But I understand that I need to have the means in order to accomplish that vision and I don't know I think I'm open to whatever I feel like whatever I do I'll be successful at it and so maybe I'll be a jack-of-all-trades and and maybe a master at none, but Every so often better than a master of one But a mess.
00:43:18.000So I don't know where I see my life in 30 years.
00:43:20.000Quite frankly, you know, I just was thinking to myself the other day, we live our lives always planning for the future, always planning that there will be a future.
00:43:31.000And I think so often we lose the perspective of living in the now.
00:43:36.000And I think especially having been so close to death, I'm understanding we can't always plan to have a future and I need to do more to accomplish what I want sooner rather than later.
00:43:51.000So I'm not sure there will be 30 years.
00:43:54.000You know, one of the things that makes me believe in God is that I 100% would rather quit all of this and go live in a van down by the river, go skate when I feel like skating, play guitar on the roof in a crisp autumn night, but I just can't do it.
00:44:18.000I would love to get in my van and go drive down to Arizona and go into the mountains in the cold night and just sit back with the movie on and just be like, fuck all this shit, I feel good.
00:44:29.000Exercise, play music, trigger those endorphins, walk around in a random place looking at weird ass shit, but I can't.
00:44:37.000It's like there is nothing in me that would ever allow me to do that.
00:44:42.000So I wake up every day, and I get to work, and it's the craziest thing.
00:44:45.000I have no boss, but I feel physical pain if I don't do this.
00:44:50.000Literally, genetic degradation, I think.
00:45:15.000I went in like 2010, I got afraid of being famous and I dipped out for about a decade of just doing this, of serving the community, the people.
00:45:23.000And it was literally, like what you're saying, my body was starting to die.
00:45:41.000I would just say, like, if I were to wake up tomorrow, get in my truck, and be like, I'm just gonna go fishing, it would just be, it would be, it would be pain.
00:45:50.000It would be like ripping something out of my chest.