On this weekend's episode of the show, we discuss the latest hoax school shooting in the United States, a video game designed to make a point about gun control, and a crazy story about a woman who thought she was a first-person shooter in a school shooter video game.
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00:00:35.000And also, I think more importantly, we got to point out this is the Spicer Shelf.
00:00:40.000Behind Sean, because the last time you were here, you suggested having some kind of shelf.
00:00:45.000No, no, actually I won't take, so I was trying to promo my book, because that's the last time, and it was either you or Ian, but said, you know what, we need a shelf there, and then I took credit, I said, okay, well then it will be the Spicer shelf.
00:00:59.000But it was one of your ideas that said, well, then we need a shelf.
00:01:04.000I gotta get you to sign it underneath the shelf.
00:01:07.000I just took credit for someone else's idea.
00:01:41.000What it's like for, you know, for these, cause you mentioned, I think earlier, one of the, one of the comments that was came in, you know, the wave, someone had said that there were people calling throughout Pennsylvania.
00:03:09.000Then the mom picks up her phone, plugs it in, and starts typing in the address for work.
00:03:14.000And then she's checking the routes when all of a sudden you hear screaming.
00:03:18.000And then she looks and sees the door burst open and people start running out, one person clutching their arm, they're bleeding.
00:03:24.000And then the mother goes, it's from her perspective, so it's a first person, she goes, Oh, dear God.
00:03:29.000And then she reaches for the glove box.
00:03:31.000And right before it pops open, it says, CHOOSE YOUR DIFFICULTY, GUN FREE ZONE, SECOND AMENDMENT GUARANTEE.
00:03:37.000And if you choose the difficulty of gun free zone, then she opens it, sees the handgun, looks up at the sign saying gun free zone, jumps out of the car, and fists come up, and there's a school shooting.
00:03:47.000Or if you choose second amendment guarantee, she grabs the gun, loads the magazine, chambers around, and then you go in to stop the school shooter with the handgun.
00:03:55.000And we didn't make it because we were probably like, everyone in the world would just hate us for making that point.
00:03:59.000Oh, the headline would be, Tim Pool releases school shooter video game.
00:04:03.000But I'm also kind of the shithead who would probably just want to do it anyway.
00:04:06.000So it's more of technical capabilities, because I think the point needs to be made.
00:04:09.000Not that I want to simulate a school shooting, but that video game scenario would give someone the understanding.
00:04:17.000If you had to stop a school shooter, which would you prefer?
00:04:21.000A gun-free zone or constitutional carry?
00:04:24.000Everyone's going to say constitutional carry.
00:04:38.000And then as soon as you stop the shooter, the mother ejects the clip, clears the chamber, throws the gun, puts her hands on her head and waits.
00:04:44.000The cops come in, grab her, pull her aside, frisk her, cuff her.
00:04:47.000And then they say, this is the shooter.
00:05:46.000I don't think in any way, shape, or form Merrick Garland may be pissed about not being a Supreme Court justice, but there's no way that guy wants harm to come to Brett Kavanaugh.
00:06:26.000Was that intentional or was that just carelessness?
00:06:28.000Cuomo was warned that if he did this, he would kill the elderly, and he could have used the comfort chip that Trump sent, but he would rather the old people die than give Donald Trump a victory.
00:06:42.000Well, let's let's let's jump to these schools because this is this is this is big.
00:06:46.000We have this from Fox 13 now They say the numerous active school shooter calls placed across Utah on Wednesday and later proven to be hoaxes all came from the same IP address According to the Department of Public Safety, but I pulled this article.
00:06:58.000It wasn't just in Utah It was in Pennsylvania.
00:07:02.000Schools were getting these phone calls, videos were emerging on social media of police rushing to these schools, and they were coming from outside the country.
00:07:09.000This sounds like a social cyber attack against the United States to disrupt our economy, to cause panic and disarray.
00:07:48.000We don't have the strength we used to have.
00:07:50.000So why are they continuing to deal with us?
00:07:52.000I don't know what your thoughts on this are.
00:07:55.000I mean, look, I can't believe the decline that we've seen in two years.
00:08:00.000There are days when I realize everything that has happened has happened in the matter of 24 months.
00:08:06.000And I think it all goes back to Afghanistan.
00:08:10.000Once you realize that we were going to allow something like that to happen, the rest of the world... The idea, by the way, and I still can't believe this got short shrift, the idea the other day that Iran shot Via drone, a missile killed a US citizen and it got barely any coverage.
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00:10:41.000Look, none of this—I can't stand people telling me about—I'm tired of tweets and hearing about behavior.
00:10:50.000I mean, look, Russia invades Ukraine, China's provocative in the South China Sea, Iran just shoots and kills a U.S.
00:10:57.000citizen, North Korea's firing off stuff, we've got fentanyl pouring over the southern border, people flowing in over the southern border, inflation at an all-time high.
00:11:08.000Biden himself goes on David Mirror the other night and says, when you turn on the television, what's going right?
00:11:14.000And people are looking at this, I'm going, we're two years in!
00:11:22.000If he can't articulate something positive, Muir says to him, you know, the American people don't think things are going right.
00:11:30.000And the president of the United States says to him, well, David, when you turn on the television and nothing's going well, what do you think's going to happen?
00:11:38.000I mean, I'm like, dude, that's not a real inspiring message.
00:12:13.000But I think that, I think that, that Ron DeSantis has been a great governor for Florida.
00:12:19.000I think that he fights and he, I like the way that he's not apologetic.
00:12:23.000We talked about this a little bit before we got into this, but I don't, I'm tired of these conservatives being like, but, you know, let's just pretend, let's be a little bit nicer.
00:12:34.000One thing that's going well, and to answer your question from earlier, when you turn on the TV, is that we figured out how to pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and convert it into graphene, which is a, what, fantastic building material.
00:12:57.000But we're talking about military leadership in an active crisis, an economic crisis, and a need for a stronger president with a plan, not graphene.
00:13:06.000Well, we need inspiration from our president.
00:13:07.000And if the president talks about a future plan, like, how will we make the world better?
00:13:12.000Well, we're going to clean up the atmosphere.
00:13:13.000Okay, that's going to get a lot of people on board, a lot of people excited.
00:13:16.000They're going to be excited to turn on the TV and hear about it.
00:13:20.000If Donald Trump did say we're looking into graphene carbon capture technology, it would be difficult for the left to argue the climate change narrative against him, because they would.
00:13:31.000But, you know, there is a talking point, albeit a small one, for Trump to say something of the sort.
00:13:35.000And it's national security, because nothing worse than global floods that will destroy our nation.
00:13:39.000People are flooding across borders because of climate change.
00:13:42.000It really is one of the great disruptors of empires.
00:13:44.000Yeah, I'd believe that if Obama and other leftists weren't buying beachfront properties, because, you know, if they want to claim that's true, why are they investing in Miami Beach and Martha's Vineyard?
00:14:36.000Can I ask a slightly different question?
00:14:38.000Do you think, as a former press secretary, that the model that we have right now works?
00:14:44.000Like, where we have a press pool in the White House and someone comes out and talks to them.
00:14:48.000I feel like it's hard not to look at it, especially with the current press secretary, and think, well, they just pick the journalists they like.
00:15:55.000You were trying to bring- Oh yeah, and my view was, I actually let more people in.
00:15:59.000My view was, again, I wanted independent journalists, I allowed talk radio hosts.
00:16:05.000If you go on, and I didn't even know this, it was funny, my show producer showed me this the other day, because I never cared, go on the White House Correspondents Association website, and it says, this answers your question, Hannah, It says, does there an order that the White House press secretary and I've always there's actually a tradition, but I never actually thought about it.
00:16:31.000It says that traditionally the White House Press Secretary calls on the Associated Press reporter first, and then starts with the front row, ABC, The Washington Post, because that's how the seating chart works.
00:16:45.000When I was Press Secretary, I started in the back and moved forward, because I was like, screw you guys, because part of it was I wanted Those voices to permeate, right?
00:16:56.000My view was you guys in the front all try to dominate the narrative and you want to infect everybody else.
00:17:03.000I want everybody else to dominate you guys.
00:17:06.000I want people to hear about what, you know, and I wanted the Skype questions.
00:17:11.000Middle America to tell you guys what's happening.
00:17:13.000I want to hear about water problems and I want to hear about natural resource issues that people in Colorado or Montana are facing so that you have to understand what they're going through, not about Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:17:27.000And they want to clamp down on that now.
00:17:29.000How do you feel that Twitter and other, like I know you mentioned you brought in Skype, are there things or technologies eclipsing the formal role of the White House briefing room and the press secretary?
00:17:40.000I feel like you could actually get news out much faster.
00:17:44.000But the argument is that you wouldn't be representing, the press wouldn't have their foot in the door.
00:17:48.000So look, the briefing is sort of a tenth, and maybe that's even too much, maybe a fifth Of what the job is, right?
00:17:56.000On a daily basis, you're answering phone calls and emails and texts of like, hey, I've got a question, or my boss, and again, from all over the country.
00:18:16.000I mean, you're waiting till 1, 2, 3 o'clock to ask a question that you could have asked at 9, 30, 10 o'clock and written a story on or filed on.
00:18:29.000I mean, right now, the things that I follow the most are when people pick it up on Twitter, right?
00:18:33.000If there happens to be a journalist who has some interesting- But think about this- But it doesn't really help with information.
00:18:38.000You're really seeing the personalities of the press secretary versus whatever outlet is against them right now, right?
00:18:43.000So if you think about the White House briefing in the way that you think about the six o'clock news or sports center, That's the equivalent.
00:18:51.000Do you wait till 6 o'clock to get the news?
00:18:53.000Do you wait till SportsCenter to get your sports scores?
00:20:28.000And again, part of it is I enjoyed some of the sparring and, but I don't know that fun was one of the, you know, if you did like a word cloud, it was one of the bigger words.
00:20:40.000There was one day I saw you were up there and it was, you looked like someone asked you something or said something and you were like, really good posture.
00:20:47.000Just like this look of like, Like, absolute, like, I can't, kind of, like, now I know you can't say what you think.
00:20:54.000Like, you can't, are there things that are like, this is off-limits, this is off-limits, you cannot say these things.
00:20:59.000Well, there are days when you want to just look and go, are you really that much of a dumbass?
00:21:03.000But I don't think you're allowed to say that on, you know, from the White House.
00:21:45.000I mean, Trump The job of the press secretary is to speak in lieu of the president or the principal, whomever that is, or on behalf of the principal.
00:21:55.000And in Trump's case, he would go out and do it himself, whether it was in the briefing room during the COVID era or at Marine One, you know, before that.
00:22:05.000I think we need some fireside chats again.
00:22:08.000Yes, and let's have our own right now by taking some callers.
00:22:12.000So let's go to our callers and answer some questions.
00:22:43.000Earlier you were talking about You know, when police officers who swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, when they are ordered to do things which may violate the Constitution, when they do that, they're just following orders.
00:23:01.000Sir, I would submit to you that shit didn't fly in Nuremberg and it shouldn't fly today.
00:23:07.000Again, I'm not defending doing anything illegal.
00:23:13.000What I'm saying to you is the right person to hold accountable is the person that gave the unlawful order.
00:23:20.000So I'm not justifying an unlawful act.
00:23:23.000What I'm saying is the right person to hold accountable is the person that actually gave the order.
00:23:29.000So let's go full Godwin's Law on this one.
00:23:34.000There were many Nazi soldiers who loaded Jews into freight cars and trucks who did not know about the concentration camps.
00:23:45.000But I would argue that that's a very... I mean, like, first of all, I would just say there's a big difference between sending someone to their death and shutting down their church.
00:24:00.000I mean, I think there's a difference between killing someone and shutting down a church, but I think Look, I will also say this.
00:24:07.000There's a big difference between a cop walking up to a church and locking it and saying, I'm locking down this church, and if there's an order by an elected official that says, I am decreeing that this is happening, that the person to hold accountable is the mayor or the elected official or whomever.
00:24:25.000What I am arguing is not a question of That there's not multiple people that are held accountable.
00:25:08.000At the trials, though, they went after, like, Hermann Göring, you know, the Commander of the Luftwaffe and shit like that like they didn't just kill every or Imprison for life every Nazi because it would have annihilated Germany there would be no reconstruction and it'd be a dead state where gangs would take over I Think I agree with you that you do have to focus on the commander that gave the order first But don't let those guys off the hook either.
00:25:32.000I don't think we should especially in the United States today Here's what I would say that if we are a nation of laws right and if someone if the court issues a an order Which says that this is, if a judge issues, then that is the law.
00:25:47.000Okay, but in some cases it is, though, Tim.
00:25:49.000Right, so we're talking about Merrick Garland specifically, where he gave an order, but let's even talk about that.
00:25:53.000And if you oppose that, but here's my point, if you don't agree with that, if you're Justice Kavanaugh or whatever, then you have a right and a duty to say we disagree with this, you're not enforcing the law, and then you use the system to go against it.
00:26:39.000And then Cuomo reissued an executive order and the cops kept the churches shut down.
00:26:44.000Only possible because these cops are crooked.
00:26:47.000Okay, well, again, I'm not familiar with what happened in New York, but I would just say hypothetically, if a judge says, don't do X, and the cop says, well, my boss told me to do it, I'm going to do it anyway.
00:26:54.000No, then the cop should always enforce the law.
00:26:56.000And if the judge says it's not lawful, then they should enforce the law.
00:27:00.000I mean, they should, whatever the judge rules, as far as the, so if the judge, let's not, I don't mean to tie myself in knots here.
00:27:08.000If the judge says that an order is not lawful, then they should not enforce it.
00:27:13.000If the judge says it is lawful, then they should enforce it.
00:27:16.000Should the cops in New York then be criminally charged?
00:27:27.000A judge then said, that's unconstitutional, reopen the churches.
00:27:31.000Then the cops should do what the judge says.
00:27:33.000So then, Cuomo says, I will reissue a new executive order that's slightly different but does the same thing, and you will have to sue me over that one, and I will tie up these churches in court forever.
00:27:43.000And the cops say, well, we got a new order- Again, I- I don't, like, you're asking me a legal question that I'm not qualified to answer.
00:27:50.000My personal opinion is that the cops have to follow the law, and if the lawyers tell them, hey, until we adjudicate this, you have to follow it.
00:29:42.000If it were up to me, I'd say the Constitution must be amended before you can do these things.
00:29:46.000Funny, because the badge actually looks like a shield, too.
00:29:48.000And I gotta say this, too, especially when it comes to churches.
00:29:51.000We are dealing with people's immortal souls, and this is why I feel like religious crimes are particularly egregious when it comes to violating someone's religious rights.
00:30:01.000Like, this idea of the old urban legend of the general who poured pig's blood on Muslim soldiers, I think, is horrifying.
00:30:10.000It's one thing to fight a war, it's another thing to desecrate someone's remains.
00:30:14.000Telling someone that everything they hold dear within their being and body is being suppressed, oppressed, or shut down, and putting them in fear of eternal damnation, I think is egregious.
00:30:25.000So when they say we're shutting down your churches, that is a crime against humanity.
00:30:29.000And that's why the First Amendment protects our right to practice our religion.
00:30:33.000So all these officers who said, fuck you and fuck the Constitution, you're not going to church?
00:30:38.000I think I would lock them up in two seconds, no question.
00:31:13.000So my question has to do with all of you.
00:31:16.000Early on in the TimCast IRL show on YouTube, we were talking about how Matt Walsh was prevented from speaking due to threats to his family and whatnot.
00:31:30.000He then postponed his speech, but then he goes on to tweet that he will not be feared into silence, yet he literally was feared into silence.
00:31:40.000So my question would be then, what is the recourse on how we combat this?
00:32:12.000I don't think everyone can just act in an absolute manner.
00:32:16.000Matt Walsh needing to stay by his family to protect them is, sometimes in battle you retreat, sometimes you advance.
00:32:22.000I think overwhelmingly he's been winning, and if he's taking, he's postponing an event, he says he's gonna do it again, he's gonna, the event will happen.
00:32:30.000If he needs to sharp his defenses, then he should.
00:32:33.000And that means protecting his family, good.
00:32:35.000And I think he'll keep fighting, I don't think he's being scared into silence, I think An attack was made, he made a defensive move, and I think
00:32:43.000he'll end up succeeding in the long run.
00:32:44.000As for solving the problems, I don't know about fighting fire with fire, like sending people
00:32:49.000threats I don't think is effective. These people aren't scared by these things, in fact they want
00:32:52.000them to happen so they can use the power of law enforcement to crush their opponents.
00:32:56.000I think the solution is you've got to keep pushing upstream.
00:33:05.000And in 15 years, those kids will be voting, and they will be thought leaders, and there will be four or five Matt Walshes.
00:33:10.000So I think the victory is going to come because conservatives are more likely to have kids, and liberals are more likely to sterilize their kids.
00:34:11.000Well, I'd also say this, but to Tim's point, I think that from an image standpoint, Him going back out to Washington and Lee tomorrow, next week, whatever, is going to speak volumes, right?
00:34:23.000If he retreated and said, I will not be going back out, then that would be the, he made it very clear in that tweet.
00:34:32.000I'm going to protect I'm going to take care of my family, and then I'll be going back out.
00:34:36.000He made it very clear, this isn't the university, and I think that's the image.
00:34:40.000But I'll tell you, to answer your question more specifically, look, this morning, I mentioned this at the beginning, we had this event, all the Brave Book authors, we had Antifa that was saying they were going to be there, they were saying, don't show up, we're going to come out and protest.
00:34:55.000I mean, honest to God, it was not, you know, as a guy that has spoken at Berkeley and a bunch of other college campuses, I was not exactly thrilled about showing up to a D.C.
00:35:19.000I believe that's the White House press corps and you speaking.
00:35:24.000Well, if I were to take a guess, but there's a little bit of like, okay, like this is not You know, we were commenting a little earlier today about violence, and there is a little fear.
00:35:34.000There are people willing to do things that I don't think they were willing to do five, ten years ago, and so I got to admit that there is a little bit of fear going into a couple of these events, but showing the left that we're not afraid anymore, whether it's going to these events or Matt Walsh going back out, showing up is half the battle, and saying, all right, great, we'll go and we'll show up and we'll Go on with our, you know, our story hour for kids.
00:35:59.000And we've got to try and get through more callers.
00:36:04.000It's a tactical retreat, which can create opportunity for hammer and anvil tactics, where you draw your enemy towards you and then flank them from behind.
00:36:11.000So culturally, there's a lot of moves that can be made with intentional retreat.
00:37:22.000And I wanted to say, Ian, you like talking to people in video, like you've said.
00:37:30.000Um, get on the discord, jump on in the middle of the night when you're up, uh, and jump in some of these, uh, these audio chats and, uh, turn on the video with the rest of us.
00:37:53.000Are there any particular, so there's just lots of different channels.
00:37:55.000Just pick one where there's a lot of people and jump in.
00:37:57.000No you are just any of the voice voice ones you can a lot of I told a lot of the people in there is hey there's a lot of people things going on turn on your video so we can see you and it's it's harder for people to not have a bunch of noise.
00:38:14.000I think it's a good idea, if you're interested.
00:38:53.000Uh, the, any kind of, anything with Matt Walsh, and not going, as you guys were saying before, and not going to this, we gotta, we gotta fucking realize, uh, in his neighborhood, because I'm sure he lives in a nicer neighborhood, In Nashville, a kid just got fucking murdered.
00:40:28.000So it depends on what you're looking for.
00:40:31.000I think I actually get entertained more by listening to Corinne.
00:40:35.000I mean, it's amazing to see somebody bungle the easiest questions.
00:40:40.000She has a stutter and a blink when she's trying to figure something out.
00:40:44.000But it's like, so tomorrow is what day?
00:40:46.000She's like, look, we have addressed the plans for days with the plans that we continue to talk about, and the president's been clear on that.
00:43:42.000In terms of starting a business, in three months, I thought it was going to be a week.
00:43:47.000Because we did the designs, we got it ready, and then we had to go through the beginning of the manufacturing process and permitting and all that stuff, and that got jammed up.
00:43:54.000three months to launch casper.com i think it's not not bad we bought the building the coffee shop
00:43:59.000building exists it's sitting there it's just empty and so we have to install plumbing and that is
00:44:05.000insane to do takes a long time so you know but poker with the boys yo poker tables downstairs
00:44:11.000we got it already and And the next table's an RFID table, it's under construction and paid for.
00:44:18.000The only challenge with Poker With The Boys is how do we actually do a fun poker game with gambling laws that treat poker like gambling instead of a game of skill, which it is.
00:44:30.000And so there's some workarounds like if we have no buy-in and don't give cash, we can give any prize we want.
00:44:37.000So if it's a tournament-style game where you get chips to be on the show and the winner gets a prize that's a physical object, our lawyer says that's probably fine, but we're trying to figure out ways to actually make it a legitimate, fun, good game.
00:44:50.000I would rather do a legitimate buy-in for a couple hundred bucks and actually see, you know, Matt Gaetz play Sean Spicer in some Texas Hold'em or something like that.
00:48:23.000So guests that have something, we want to showcase their thing.
00:48:26.000I think actually the simple thing is Just to periodically find a project posted in the member chat and then do a pseudo-sponsor spot at the beginning of TimCast IRL for, you know, this episode's brought to you by our member, you know, so-and-so.
00:48:42.000Their website is, you know, ianspiggybanks.com.
00:48:45.000So what would we do, like a Discord channel that you would put your pitches in?
00:53:20.000And we do it because we have purpose, and because we are here to be good stewards of the Earth, to, for one, experience life, but we're also here to create life, to improve life, and these people are toxic fire that just burn and destroy everything.
00:53:40.000Humans are going to progress, they're going to learn and better know the universe, and I think that's part of the mission, to organize free energy into complex systems and improve the efficiency at which we do.
00:53:50.000And that means we have to maintain environmental balance, it means we have to have morals and order, and it means woke people are a plague that are just destroying our sacred mission.
00:54:02.000So I think having a farm, having a family, is one of the most effective ways of fighting back, because you've got to think about the 10-year plan.
00:54:09.000These people want to indoctrinate your kids?