Alex Jones was found in default in his defamation case against a Texas jury, and now a jury will decide how much he should pay. Plus, Biden declares a monkeypox emergency, and we talk about the Sandy Hook school shooting.
00:01:01.000So this is a particularly interesting case.
00:01:03.000They considered a rare ruling that a judge just simply said, nah, you lose, moving on.
00:01:08.000And now the jury says 4.1 million, which is also interesting because, you know, as much as it's bad for Alex Jones, I mean, the dude is very, very wealthy.
00:02:24.000So supporting us is also supporting them because we need to get more companies involved with ParallelEconomy.com using them for financial transactions so we can build up an ecosystem that is resistant to censorship.
00:04:53.000First, they say this is far lower than the figure parents had asked them to award $150 million in damages, which their lawyer found a fitting penalty for Jones's decade of deceit.
00:05:05.000December will mark the 10th anniversary of the massacre.
00:05:08.000The jury, which reached the verdict on the first day of deliberations, has yet to award punitive damages and will return on Friday to consider that unresolved matter.
00:05:16.000size of the award has been an issue at trial as the judge issued a rare default judgment
00:05:22.000against Jones before trial for failing to comply with his discovery obligations.
00:05:28.000That's not that's weird, right? You're a lawyer. Yeah, it is. It's not something you see a
00:05:32.000lot in litigation. Typically, if there are disputes between parties on discovery. So,
00:05:39.000for example, if a plaintiff or a defendant is seeking documents or answers to interrogatories
00:05:48.000or other questions and discovery, there's a process that you go through, right?
00:05:53.000The counsel for both parties confer with one another.
00:05:57.000They try to understand what the disputes are.
00:06:01.000And ultimately, the parties go to the court and ask the judge to weigh in on whether or not to order the party to produce those documents.
00:06:13.000And I'm not familiar with the specific details of Alex's case in the procedural history of how the default judgment happened, but it is a rare thing
00:06:25.000for a court to not provide any sort of intermediary sanction. Right. Less than
00:06:34.000default, which would be negative inferences, perhaps from an evidentiary standpoint
00:06:41.000or other sanctions that the court might levy, but not going straight
00:06:48.000Do you think Alex Jones can appeal this and potentially win?
00:06:55.000Potentially, there's a ground for appeal, for sure.
00:06:59.000If, again, and not knowing what the Texas state court precedents are.
00:07:05.000Uh, right now, but there in theory, yes, would be a, uh, a basis to appeal the finding of, of liability, which is the threshold finding for, uh, the damages that flowed out today in the $4 million or so verdict.
00:07:34.000They said a Monday ruling from a Connecticut court which found Jones and other defendants liable for defamation brought swift reaction from an attorney or any of the families.
00:08:10.000What I know is that, or what I can say, Alex told me they comply with everything, but no matter what they gave, they were told they weren't complying.
00:08:20.000I'm not saying you need to believe Alex Jones.
00:08:22.000I'm just saying that's what he's asserting.
00:08:23.000Now the question I have is, if a court orders you to hand something over that you don't have, and then issues a ruling in default, like what do you do?
00:08:33.000Let's operate from the assumption that Alex Jones did comply with Discovery as he claims, and they rule in default anyway.
00:08:47.000You try to create, you show the court, for example, if you're searching for documents across a corporation, for example, what search terms you used, how you searched for documents, how you collected them and ultimately produced them.
00:09:06.000You know, you offer the opportunity for somebody to come and do a forensic analysis to make sure you're not hiding something, right?
00:09:14.000Those are the steps that you could go through to sort of prove that you've complied with your obligations.
00:09:21.000But that doesn't sound like that opportunity was provided in this particular case, which, again, is going to potentially raise uh, uh, appealable issues.
00:09:33.000So I wonder if this is just political, you know, $4 million.
00:09:37.000I'm just going to come out and say it for Alex Jones.
00:09:39.000He said in trial, something like anything more than 2 million would
00:09:47.000I think a $4 million ruling, Alex probably left, got in his car, and then went, yes!
00:09:53.000Because a lot of people are posting on Twitter, this may as well have been a victory for Alex, $4 million, because he makes so much money.
00:10:01.000Now, he doesn't make as much money as he used to, which is another big element of this trial, of this case, is that they're trying to claim people are just... It's so frustrating dealing with, you know... People are saying, in the trial, they said Alex Jones made $165 million in sales.
00:11:01.000Yeah, and people arrange their assets in ways that can be advantageous in that regard.
00:11:07.000I think the Enron executives, right, in the 2000s who had multi-million dollar verdicts that were levity against them who bought large houses in Florida, if I'm not mistaken, or if I'm remembering correctly, because essentially they could put their assets into a home that couldn't be levity against to collect against a judgment.
00:11:31.000Yeah, they can't take your house from you, can they?
00:11:33.000It depends on what state you're in in terms of how far a judgment creditor can go to collect against you.
00:11:40.000Like I said, I think in the case of the Enron executives, there are special rules in Florida that That allow people to put their assets into homes.
00:11:51.000Weren't they like buying like a hundred million dollar house and then being like, sorry, I'm in bankruptcy, you can't take my home from me.
00:11:57.000I don't remember if it was that much, but it was big houses and lots of money.
00:12:03.000And then when they start a bunch of home renovations, they just start the renovations, and they're like, sorry, all the money's out, even though it hasn't been built yet.
00:13:28.000And then when she lost, all of a sudden the Clinton Foundation stopped getting, like, money just dried up, and just... And then they disbanded it, and now it's back?
00:13:36.000Yeah, they were like, hey, we're gonna win again, or something like that.
00:13:38.000When you said that one thing, Alex, or someone that feels like they've been wronged by the process can go to the court and see if they can rectify, like, discovery or whatever, is the court just basically the judge in this case?
00:13:52.000So if you have a discovery dispute, You try to work it out with the other party first.
00:13:57.000You do something called meet and confer with the other side to see if you can resolve the dispute without having to get the judge involved.
00:14:05.000But ultimately, if you're unsatisfied with what the other side is doing in terms of the documents that they've given or the answers that they've given Discovery, you go to the court and you move to compel and you ask the judge to order them to Order them to provide responsive documents or answers.
00:14:32.000There's nothing you can do other than, again, what I said earlier, which is show the court the efforts that you've undertaken to pull back the curtain.
00:14:42.000The judge can just be like, ah, you're lying.
00:14:56.000I think it's funny when people say, you know, because Carrie Lake is big in the news and they're talking about her election.
00:15:00.000There was a funny article that said if Carrie Lake gets her legally impossible wish, Donald Trump will be ineligible to run for president because you can only win twice or whatever.
00:15:57.000But I will say, just in defense of the legal system in some ways, we are blessed and fortunate in the United States.
00:16:06.000Where we do, I believe in most cases, civil cases that I've been involved in, certainly judges that are trying to do their best to reach the right result.
00:16:19.000So we do have that blessing here in the United States that a lot of other countries don't have.
00:16:24.000No, I mean, we got a pretty good system.
00:16:26.000I think the issue is just we're getting to this point culturally where you have two distinct Americas.
00:16:31.000You have the multicultural democracy, you have the constitutional republic, you now have judges.
00:16:42.000They'll be like, this is good news, you know, we've got Judge Smith, who's, you know, not a fan of X or Y, which means we'll probably be able to get, you know, these things filed or something like that.
00:16:53.000And I've been involved in legal issues in the real world where I've been advised, if you file in this jurisdiction, you're going to have this judge and he really hates this stuff.
00:17:02.000And so it's like, okay, you take those things into consideration.
00:17:05.000That's to a degree understandable, the perceptions of the judges and how they interpret the law.
00:17:09.000But we're getting to the point where these judges are like, I hate Alex Jones.
00:17:38.000If anything, Alex Jones was the one who got defamed, because after his Sandy Hook comments, they twisted that into saying that he also claimed Parkland didn't happen and all sorts of things didn't happen.
00:18:27.000I don't think that you're allowed to repost what he said on YouTube.
00:18:31.000It's not, and I would not be able to quote exactly what he said.
00:18:35.000But I know there were various instances of him accusing them of being crisis actors or saying they weren't real.
00:18:39.000But a lot of it was him being like, oh, look what this person said, and look what this person said.
00:18:45.000And then they've also, they also accused him of saying things like, if you really did lose your children, I'm so sorry.
00:18:51.000And they were like, what does that mean?
00:18:52.000And they were saying those statements as well were part of the defamation.
00:18:55.000What you got to understand about private individuals, you can't, like the standard is really low for defamation against a private individual.
00:19:03.000Oh, I shouldn't say it's really low, it's just really high if you're a public figure.
00:19:06.000So, what they tried doing with the Covington Catholic kids was claiming they were involuntary public figures.
00:20:04.000That being said, I gotta tell you guys, before the trial even happened, I know people who, people have told me, it's hearsay, but they were like, I heard so-and-so said to Jones, you have to stop doing this.
00:20:17.000And then in the trial, they actually brought up communications where employees at InfoWars were telling him like, why are you doing this?
00:21:18.000So you have to imagine that if you know it's coming and you're running a- working a company, you're gonna start- you're gonna ramp up everyone's salaries, your kids are gonna get their inheritance very quickly, and then they're gonna come for you and be like, it's all gone.
00:21:30.000You're ordering your affairs strategically at that point, though there are remedies potentially that these plaintiffs can take to try to trace that money to some extent.
00:21:43.000Well, let me ask you then, as a lawyer, if Alex Jones paid a million dollars to an employee, could they then get that money back?
00:21:51.000Well, the problem is, what did the employee do with it right after they got it, right?
00:21:58.000Let's say that someone was contracted to produce a documentary, and they're a documentary filmmaker, and Alex said, we'll give you a million dollars to produce this massive documentary, and they said, you got it.
00:22:11.000Let's say it's a third-party company that's contracted with Alex Jones.
00:22:16.000Could you—how would you get the money from them?
00:22:18.000I mean, they're not involved in your lawsuit.
00:22:20.000You can't just take the money from them.
00:22:38.000And that gets into the interplay of potential bankruptcy questions, which I'm not an expert in bankruptcy, but fraudulent transfers and things of that nature where creditors will go and try to But I'm saying not fraudulent.
00:22:55.000Let's say Alex Jones has never done a million-dollar documentary before.
00:22:58.000Gets sued, and then he decides to do one.
00:23:01.000Now he's broke because he spent all the company's money.
00:23:04.000You sue him and he says, I don't have any money.
00:23:24.000I'm not referring to anything about Alex Jones.
00:23:26.000I'm saying, like, in the event that you get sued, couldn't you just spend the money?
00:23:32.000Well, whoever's hands it belongs to yeah, that's their private business, right?
00:23:37.000And then you couldn't take I couldn't take your money, you know, if I'm doing Ian and right now
00:23:43.000I and again, I think what would happen is You you would have to apply the you would have to apply the
00:23:50.000law in the case law in the jurisdiction where you're in in his
00:23:55.000case in Texas as They're going to go and try to collect against him
00:23:59.000personally. They're gonna try to collect against these Then you're going to have a overlay with the bankruptcy court and how, uh, the bankruptcy process plays out and which, uh, who's going to get paid and what priority, because I imagine he has other creditors, not just these judgment creditors that are out there that, uh,
00:24:36.000With a lot of other people in the bankruptcy process.
00:24:39.000And then there's questions of like, let's say Alex Jones just says, I declare bankruptcy, I liquidate the assets, I pay everybody off, and then he takes a lucrative contract working for a different company.
00:24:49.000And so sure, out of the money they're paying him, maybe they only pay him a small, you know,
00:24:54.000six-figure salary. So he only has to pay a certain percentage, but then he gets to live luxuriously,
00:24:59.000you know, through other people. Like, he's Alex Jones. He could take a cell phone for 20 bucks
00:25:03.000and film a video and get a million views. So it's, you know.
00:25:06.000Let's jump over to this next story, We'll move off the Alex Jones stuff.
00:25:09.000That was big news, and I thought it was really important considering, you know, what's been going on.
00:25:31.000monkeypox case was identified mid-May, more than 6,600 probable or confirmed cases have been detected in the United States.
00:25:38.000Cases have been identified in every state except Montana and Wyoming.
00:25:42.000The declaration follows the World Health Organization announcement last month that monkeypox is a public health emergency of international concern.
00:25:48.000The WHO defines a public health emergency of international concern as an extraordinary event that constitutes a public health risk to other states through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response.
00:26:02.000Okay, well, look, according to, I think it's the World Health Organization, 95% of those who have been infected have been men who have sex with men.
00:26:12.000And so there was a story where they were saying, you know, actually, I'll just put it this way.
00:26:17.000In New York City, if you want to get a vaccine in order to be eligible, you have to be a man who, a male who has intercourse with males and have had multiple anonymous partners.
00:26:29.000That's how you qualify for the vaccine.
00:26:31.000They're not just giving this vaccine to anybody.
00:26:32.000They also said male identifying so... Really?
00:26:35.000I guess women can get the monkeypox vaccine too.
00:26:40.000As long as you're claiming to get with a bunch of guys, I guess.
00:26:44.000Dude, this is like a struggle session.
00:26:46.000They're like, you know what you gotta do if you want the vaccine?
00:26:51.000Super base that Montana and Wyoming don't have it.
00:26:55.000I mean, why do you think all the Californians want to move there?
00:26:58.000Yeah, but it's not so much that it's super base.
00:27:01.000Like, I drove through Wyoming and I thought I was gonna run out of gas.
00:27:06.000Because I'm driving down this highway for like 200 miles and it's just road and then there was this small shed looking building and I'm like I got like 50 miles left in the tank and I'm driving and then my friend goes look and there's two there's two gas pumps that I couldn't even tell were gas pumps and I was like whoa and then we pulled over immediately and it was like This dude in his house with like a little dog walking around and he had gas.
00:27:37.000You pointed it out that 95%, at least is the number I've heard of them, it sounds like it's an STD transmitted by guys having sex with guys.
00:27:46.000People have been saying that because of what they're reporting.
00:27:49.000It's just that for obvious reasons, People who have multiple anonymous partners, they're touching each other a lot and they're sharing bodily fluids a lot.
00:27:58.000So there's a higher propensity to... Bro, I'm telling you.
00:28:01.000I guess that's true because the common cold isn't an STD and you could get it by having sex with someone with it.
00:28:06.000And if you go and shake the hand of somebody who's got it and then you get it, you're gonna be like, I swear I wasn't going to these things, man.
00:28:11.000So is it because it's not a blood disease, it's a skin-to-skin contact disease that it's not considered an STD?
00:28:28.000I mean, he's saying it's an emergency.
00:28:30.000But that opens up the FDA, we were talking about this before the show, to start approving medicine for emergency authorized use without proper testing channels if it's considered an emergency.
00:28:41.000So, I mean, the PHE being declared does open the door for medications, vaccines, other testing, diagnostics to be brought onto the market through, instead of going through the traditional FDA approval process, through the abbreviated EUA process, the Emergency Use Authorization process.
00:29:05.000What bothers me the most is that we've been softened, I think people have been softened to what it means a medical emergency actually is since COVID.
00:29:12.000Like, that people are willing to to tend that this might actually be a real emergency.
00:29:25.000Like, the reality is the government has declared it, so they're claiming it is.
00:29:28.000My point is, People can get monkeypox from touching other people.
00:29:33.000And so while it's spreading predominantly among one particular group, it could find its way, if people don't take it seriously, into general population.
00:29:43.000Like, regular people will start popping up and be like, how did this happen?
00:29:45.000And then all of a sudden you've got bumps or whatever.
00:29:48.000There's some crazy posts on social media where they're like, if you're going to a kink event, just put band-aids over your bumps.
00:30:22.000So it has happened, but like, I don't want to see people get like, like muted to the, the, what a real emergency is because we keep being told that we're in a state of emergency.
00:30:34.000We've like, I don't think we've ever not been in a state of emergency our entire lives.
00:30:38.000Since September 11th, 2001, it's been an emergency every day.
00:30:42.000I love this country, but it's... How many emergencies are currently active in the United States?
00:30:48.000There's probably dozens, because they never just end them.
00:30:52.000They're like, oh yeah, 9-11, emergency, and then they just leave it.
00:30:55.000And then it's an emergency, and then they can do all this crazy stuff.
00:30:57.000And it's it's threatening to our liberties, right?
00:31:01.000It's a constant state of emergency, as we saw in with the, in many ways, unprecedented restrictions on individual freedom that happened in this country during the COVID-19 pandemic during the PHE.
00:31:14.000More than 30 national emergencies remain in effect.
00:31:46.000All right, under Biden, you've got a security emergency, invocation of emergency authority relating to the regulation of the anchorage and movement of Russian-affiliated vessels to United States ports.
00:31:57.000And we got this one Biden protecting certain property of Afghanistan Bank.
00:33:27.000Yeah, we're still technically we're supposed to have by now but arms current proliferation of weapons of mass destruction emergency under Bill Clinton 1994.
00:34:07.000In my home state of North Carolina, the legal state of play was, if you didn't have a reason to be out of your house, If you weren't going to the grocery store or trying to get medical care, then you could be held liable for a criminal misdemeanor.
00:34:26.000You see that video of that lady who owned the restaurant?
00:34:29.000And she set up an outdoor seating area and then California shut it down.
00:34:32.000But right next to it was a movie production company's outdoor seating area that was up and running.
00:34:37.000Yeah, she was crying making a video about it because it destroyed her business.
00:34:41.000You will own nothing and you will be happy.
00:34:44.000I heard from so many people in 2020, as this was starting, people who had invested their livelihoods into starting businesses in my home state.
00:34:56.000And they were completely devastated by the restrictions and by the lockdowns.
00:35:02.000And then you had PPP money that was being supposed to go to these people.
00:35:07.000And one of the dirty little secrets of the legal profession is a lot of that money, I can tell you, went to law firms in 2020 and 2021.
00:35:18.000And law firms, by the way, that never locked down or shut down.
00:35:21.000And as I came back into private practice, learned many of them had record years in 2020.
00:35:27.000We're always happy when lawyers make money.
00:35:31.000I'll speak to this as somewhat of a traitor to my class, but it's disgraceful that working class men and women, who that money was really there for to keep them making ends meet, were losing their livelihoods while partners in mid-sized law firms were paying down their beach houses.
00:35:56.000What if the elites, the wealthy, are trying to strangle out the working class, then fund advocacy for communism by going to the working class and being like, man, your life sucks.
00:36:11.000Like, yeah, communism, look at this, you know?
00:36:30.000He was like, he was like giving, uh, he was helping the locals, giving them stuff, and he was like, if you give them something, then they fear having it taken away, and then they're your slaves, or something like that.
00:36:40.000So it's kind of like, take people who are in dire straits and give them just enough,
00:36:46.000and then you can threaten to take away what very little they have.
00:36:49.000We've got to get back to viewing the federal government as something that we are allowing
00:36:53.000to exist. It's basically a union that we as citizens of our states are allowing to function.
00:37:57.000A limited federal government with most of the powers being reserved to the states and to the people, where they could act locally and govern themselves.
00:38:10.000We're going to jump to this next story.
00:38:11.000From Legal Insurrection, DeSantis Suspends State Attorney for Refusing to Enforce Bans on Child Surgeries and Abortion Restrictions.
00:38:22.000This morning, Ron DeSantis, he did this announcement where he basically said this George Soros-backed state attorney was Outright refusing to enforce the law in a blanket statement.
00:38:36.000And he was like, look, it's one thing if you use your discretion on an individual basis.
00:38:39.000Like, okay, this guy shouldn't be charged with this crime for this one reason.
00:38:44.000It's another thing when you come out and you sign a document saying, I will never enforce the law.
00:38:48.000So Ron DeSantis, as the executive of Florida, suspended this state's attorney and then put in a temporary replacement to actually enforce the law.
00:38:58.000George Soros recently issued a statement.
00:39:02.000He published an op-ed saying he will not back down from this.
00:39:05.000He will keep funding district attorneys to reform the system.
00:39:09.000Or I should say, he will keep fighting to reform the system of prosecution because it's not working for our communities.
00:39:15.000It's creating distrust between the people and the police.
00:39:18.000The crazy thing is, this guy is either completely evil or dumb as a box of rocks.
00:39:23.000And considering he's as wealthy as he is, I don't think he's that stupid.
00:39:27.000If you look at what's happening in San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, yeah, I don't think anyone's going to be convinced this plan is working.
00:39:35.000You look at San Francisco, and they recalled that guy, Joseph Boudin or whatever his name is.
00:41:06.000I think the second, what I was, the second part of what I was saying is that sometimes the authority, the reason they have the ability to fire somebody that's not bending to their will is because, you know, we need authority.
00:41:18.000At least society, our species since the dawn of time has like an authority, the military commander, the commander in chief, the one that's like, put them up against the wall, whatever.
00:41:27.000They're like, you're not going to, you're not going to support the military cause.
00:41:30.000You're a danger to our freedom and our survivability.
00:41:33.000I have the ability to do with you what I will.
00:41:36.000But the power here that's being exercised, it's limited.
00:41:38.000Ron DeSantis doesn't decide what the law is.
00:41:41.000He does, however, it is within his duties to make sure that if other people within government aren't doing their jobs, if they're derelict of duty or negligent, that he removes them, and that's in the Constitution.
00:41:53.000I'm so surprised to see such a bold move because it feels like, especially with the Republican Party, they just sit on their hands.
00:41:59.000Now Ron DeSantis is like, he came out and he just went at it.
00:42:02.000And he was like, nah, get him out of there.
00:42:12.000Yeah, I mean, it is, you know, it's interesting with the left.
00:42:15.000The left is supportive of local control and localism when it suits its purposes.
00:42:22.000And then it's supportive of centralized control and authority when it doesn't.
00:42:28.000So, you know, here you've got somebody who's a prosecutor who's essentially involved in prosecutorial nullification, right?
00:42:36.000Essentially, you've got a duly enacted statute that's passed by the Florida legislature, signed into law by the governor, and this prosecutor is refusing to enforce the law, as you said, Tim, right?
00:42:49.000He's not just exercising discretion on individual cases.
00:42:54.000And he's basically giving the finger to the people of the state of Florida by refusing to enforce the law.
00:43:02.000So, you know, it is good to see someone stand up and say, no, you are going to do this.
00:43:23.000In June of 2021, he signed a letter saying that he would not enforce any prohibitions on sex change operations for minors.
00:43:31.000Sex changes are really disfiguring these young kids, and he said it doesn't matter what the legislature does in the state of Florida.
00:43:37.000Florida has said you cannot perform sex change operations on children.
00:43:42.000This guy said he would not enforce a prohibition on that.
00:43:46.000I just gotta say, I don't think anyone predicted, because we had Rick Santorum here, I don't think anyone predicted that a slippery slope meant within 10 years you would have children getting sex change surgeries.
00:43:59.000Now, a bunch of news outlets, they refer to it as gender-affirming healthcare, and I take issue with that because that is not what Ron DeSantis said specifically.
00:44:07.000Ron DeSantis is citing surgery, operations, like going to children.
00:44:14.000I don't think society would tolerate breast implants.
00:44:16.000That's a gender-affirming treatment, right?
00:45:04.000The divorce between the word gender and sex is new.
00:45:07.000So that you can have the identity be anything you want.
00:45:09.000But I thought it used to be your sex was what your gonads basically and then your gender was how you identified and it didn't have to be... No one identified as anything.
00:45:48.000Academically, they were trying to say it's like the social constructs around it, but colloquially, for most of English-speaking humans, it just referred to your biological sex.
00:46:58.000We're getting to this point where there's a reason that we ask these questions.
00:47:04.000If someone collapses on the street and a medic runs up, it actually is important that they know if you are male or female for a variety of reasons.
00:47:14.000For instance, if a man screams and says, oh my gut, oh man, it's hurting right in my pelvic area.
00:47:22.000Well, there's a very different reason that may be happening compared to why it would be happening to a woman.
00:47:27.000But, it could be appendicitis, and it could be a bunch of other things.
00:47:31.000And so there are some things, for obvious reasons, men and women have different organs, that a pain in a certain area could be one thing or not, obviously.
00:47:40.000But my point is, there are certain medical treatments they will give to a male and not a female.
00:47:45.000And if they can't tell or they don't know, or they don't know that a person is taking drugs for, you know, gender affirmation, as they're calling it, well, then you could be seriously screwed up when a medic gives you a medication that is contraindicated by whatever it is you're taking.
00:47:59.000Yeah, you've got to make sure that people don't... There's a story of a woman that was following Google Maps or something, or Apple Maps, into the desert, and it was telling her to turn left, go straight, and she just kept following the computer into the desert.
00:48:12.000So if someone just is like, Thinking gender is all that matters, what I think is all that matters, they're basically driving their car on this automated concept.
00:48:20.000If it gets to a point where you need to perform life-saving medical treatment on that person and then you do the wrong sex because they've conflated what they feel with gender and their sex, then it's just like it could end up being catastrophic for someone.
00:48:32.000Well now the life-saving medical treatment that they're referring to is gender affirmation because essentially They're holding these kids hostage in a way saying like they're going to commit suicide if they don't get these treatments Do you want them to commit suicide?
00:48:50.000Yeah, they're holding them hostage and and and the I think what's what's what the crazy thing about it is if you look at countries Scandinavia, for instance, they've stopped doing all this There was a big article I was reading the other day.
00:49:02.000Sweden is like, they're doing mental therapies and stuff right now.
00:49:07.000Because perhaps a solution to someone who's got suicidal ideation is not affirming what is driving their ideation.
00:49:25.000I was thinking it was either in Scandinavia or in the Netherlands.
00:49:30.000So it's a like like Sweden had this big move where they were like, we're not gonna do this I don't know exactly where they're at now But I know people have been talking about the Scandinavian countries being like we have found that it's not actually reducing suicidal ideation And so that's my thing.
00:49:44.000It's like seriously, we don't want kids harming themselves.
00:49:52.000I don't keep up with that Yeah, I've read some articles saying it's like, no difference.
00:50:00.000But obviously, it depends on what you read.
00:50:01.000If you read advocacy websites, they're gonna say, of course it's helping reduce these things.
00:50:05.000And it's like, well, maybe, I don't know.
00:50:07.000What I do know is, what these other countries have written, news articles from these countries that I've read, is that the mentality is, if someone is experiencing suicidal ideation, Affirming what it is that is contributing to it is not necessarily an appropriate solution.
00:50:22.000So if someone is feeling, you know, let's just say dysmorphic, a general dysmorphia like anorexia or eating too much or, you know, they want amputations or whatever, they were like, Giving a person who is suffering from some kind of anxiety what they're asking for is probably not the appropriate way to stop them from feeling this way.
00:50:42.000It's kind of like if your kid is afraid that there's a ghost under their bed and you're like, yeah, there is a ghost under your bed and then you start building their room to protect from this fake ghost and then the kid goes even crazier because it starts to think really that that...
00:50:55.000I agree that you do need to affirm these people.
00:51:18.000And it's not like it's do it or the world blows up, but to survive and for the betterment of humanity, people need to be listened to and understood.
00:51:26.000Jazz Jennings' person had parents who seemed to impose this identity since a very young age, like two years old, when They see their child who they think is a boy wearing a towel on his head and then they're like, okay, you're a girl now.
00:51:45.000And then put them on TV and we're just supposed to accept that as normal.
00:52:27.000Like if we're going to talk about Florida and the parental rights and education stuff and the rights of the parents to choose what's right for their kids, then you have to define what your moral line is.
00:52:38.000Because if we're then going to question the parents of Jazz Jennings, it's like, Do we then intervene in their family as a governmental body?
00:52:44.000Do we say the government must intervene or stop that if we think it's wrong?
00:52:48.000Or do we then say we don't want the government intervening in what parents think is right for their kids?
00:52:54.000And there's questions of if a kid really is, you know, suicidal.
00:53:00.000And I'm not talking about two years old.
00:53:37.000What about the kids that have adopted that identity before they're adults, and then once they're adults, they continue to keep that identity and seek medical procedures because of it?
00:53:52.000I don't think that that person has informed consent of the procedures that they're seeking.
00:53:57.000Well, I don't think children can consent.
00:54:01.000But once they're adults and they've already been groomed to believe that this is who they are, they don't have the ability to make an informed, consensual decision about the medical treatment.
00:54:21.000You know, look, I don't think children should be getting sex change surgery.
00:54:24.000I think that's, like, we're going down a dangerous path.
00:54:28.000But to say that, you know, you're 16 and you had an experience that informed you of something and you chose to follow that so you can't be adequately informed because of that... Okay, Jazz Jennings, since two years old...
00:54:40.000the parents have been in charge of that. Right. From what I can tell. A two-year-old is not going
00:54:45.000to come out and... And then Jazz Jennings, 18 and up, now has the ability to consent to further
00:54:53.000medical interventions. Well, I think Jazz would... After being groomed so thoroughly into believing
00:55:03.000I see what you're saying, but the challenge— It doesn't follow.
00:55:09.000There's like a hard line for obviously like, don't give sex changes to kids, that I can't believe is actually a political debate that's happening right now.
00:55:16.000And to what extent does the government intervene when someone prescribes a medical treatment to a child you don't agree with?
00:55:51.000So I'm saying, for me, I look at what's going on in Florida.
00:55:56.000We have consistently said over the past year, parents should have the final say in what their kids are, you know, and how to raise their kids.
00:56:04.000And then you get people coming out and saying, OK, well, my doctor said my kid should undergo this treatment.
00:56:08.000And it's like, no, I think you should.
00:57:48.000And your control over the education of your kids versus making these kinds of decisions about your child's future and the ability of society to second-guess those decisions.
00:58:10.000a violation of law. Does the law define showing lewd images to children? It does. You can't do
00:58:15.000that. However, the problem is these parents are going to doctors and the doctor saying this is
00:58:20.000what you have to do. Not only that, but often when the parents defy the doctors, the state comes in
00:58:25.000in certain states and punishes the parents. So now you've got this. This is a, this is,
00:58:29.000I'm telling you, man, when I talk about the bifurcation of this country in Florida, for
00:58:34.000For instance, sex change on children, not allowed in.
00:58:39.000In other states, I mean, even in Texas, we saw that case where the mom wanted to transition the son, the little boy, and the dad didn't, and there was like the judge ruled in favor of the mom.
00:58:49.000So, you've got these stories about parents who are like, a doctor said it, so they agreed.
00:58:56.000And then what we're supposed to say is like, well, you know, far be it for me to say what the child should get if a doctor is saying it.
00:59:04.000But then you have parents who can't even decide in some areas.
00:59:07.000When the doctor says it, they say no, now they get in trouble.
01:00:02.000And they actually have permitted areas where they do high-speed testing, so... Well, the point is that there are... I'm being semantic on you, but sir... You did a good job, Tim.
01:00:28.000You know, the issue of abortion, who believe, and there were briefs that were submitted in that case, where people took the position that abortion is unconstitutional, just flatly, that unborn children are persons under the 14th Amendment.
01:00:44.000and that all states have to treat those persons equally.
01:00:48.000And so if a state would have to ban the murder of an unborn child,
01:00:55.000so abortion is flatly prohibited nationwide under that analysis,
01:01:00.000versus sort of the more classic conservative legal approach to the question,
01:01:07.000which is I think what the court ultimately adopted in Dobbs, which is that the Constitution is just silent on this
01:01:13.000question, and it's an issue for each individual state to decide.
01:01:19.000But how does the... Well, we talk about it quite a bit.
01:01:23.000And, you know, we talk about... I don't like to just... Abortion has been such a big topic on the show for the past several weeks, but a viable baby that can survive outside the womb...
01:01:40.000Because, like, without a parent, without adults around it, it'll just die outside the womb until it's, like, nine.
01:01:45.000Yes, quite literally, if a baby is taken out of the womb and placed on a table and it doesn't die right away, like, it is breathing, it is looking around, it is moving around.
01:01:55.000Like, my point is, If a 30 year old man was lying on a bed, unable to move, we wouldn't be like, he's no longer viable, pull the plug!
01:02:06.000We'd be like, no, that person has rights.
01:02:07.000And that has to be, we have to figure out how to manage an individual who's been incapacitated.
01:02:11.000The point is, If the Constitution protects individual beings, why would a viable baby not be protected the same as a comatose patient?
01:02:21.000Whatever term you come up with, they're going to abuse the term.
01:02:25.000So, viable, they could say a baby isn't viable because the adults around the baby are obligated to take care of it or else it will die.
01:04:59.000You can you can take the baby and put it on the doorstep of a fire department legally and they have those safe havens or whatever So if that's the case, like I just don't know that that's just me, you know, I don't know because the motivations behind The abortionist's argument are not about viability or rights or anything.
01:05:19.000It's just that they enjoy I think it's an issue of narcissism.
01:05:50.000And he may have, they may have been old photos, I don't know, but someone tweeted, some leftist activist, to, I think it was Matt Walsh, I'm sorry that your wife was brainwashed into being a broodmare or something like that.
01:06:35.000You know, you can, and this is what I was saying about Jazz Jennings and her book.
01:06:37.000It's one thing with what's the parent doing for their child, but it's, and should the parent have the right to have surgery on their child?
01:06:44.000But it's another thing when people are, it's working outward and people are affecting society through media and convincing your child in somewhere else of what to do or inspiring your child.
01:06:57.000You know, you don't need to biologically have children to influence children.
01:07:05.000Conservatives have been shoring up their communities.
01:07:08.000They've been, Ron DeSantis has been winning and removing these people.
01:07:11.000Yeah, it looks like right now, there's a lot of variables that lay before us.
01:07:16.000But if everything that's happening right now stays the way it's happening and advances exactly the way it's happening, 30, 40 years, you're going to have, this country is going to be substantially more conservative.
01:08:15.000And also be careful what you wish for, because if you were like, we need someone to come and bring peace to this planet, you'll get someone like, okay, and then, you know, Ultron.
01:08:26.000Decentralized unification, I think, where it's like locally run, but organized.
01:08:31.000Like the states, we have 50 states, but they're all run locally.
01:08:34.000If Canada joined us and then we had like 70 states and they're all run locally, but we, you know, America is basically the land we live on.
01:11:13.000They were, and Peter Hitchens talks about this vividly, the essayist and brother of Christopher Hitchens that vividly remembers this happening, excuse me, in the 1950s.
01:11:26.000That the British Empire had been exhausted by World War II, it was overextended, and it didn't have the financial or military resources to act in the Suez Crisis, and they were told to take their hands off, and there was nothing that they could do.
01:11:40.000And maybe that's That's where we're headed, right?
01:12:10.000They have this image of colonialism as like a bunch of people get on a government boat and they're like, we're going to go discover a new world and take it over.
01:12:17.000And they think it would be like a bunch of boats landing and Chinese citizens like taking over a town.
01:12:24.000And then sooner or later, you've got large portions of your cities and your country are, you know, now settled by citizens of a foreign country.
01:12:32.000And then one day, if war breaks out, what do you think's going to happen in Australia?
01:12:36.000Like, this is why we had internment camps in World War II, for the Japanese.
01:12:40.000I think it was wrong, but the idea was like, well, we don't know which one of these Japanese people may be loyal to the Japanese Empire.
01:12:45.000It could have very easily, if we hadn't done that, if they hadn't done that, it could have been like, the Japanese uprising in California could have been, become Japanese territory, and then we lose the war, so.
01:12:54.000Happened in Europe six years ago, I think it was.
01:14:30.000I mean, but if you were in Rome in and around that time as a persecuted Christian and a tyrannical situation and state it would have seemed equally bleak and yet God did move in that country and it changed the world and maybe and I pray that that would happen in this case that that God would move in China and that great things would happen and and that the country would change culturally.
01:14:57.000The past hundred years are not confidence building.
01:15:01.000In terms of just the trajectory of history?
01:15:44.000That right there, it's just like, it's crazy to me that you see, you have everybody who's running full speed towards World War 3 intentionally.
01:15:52.000Like, you realize, it's one thing to be like, China doesn't dictate where our politicians go, so, plus he's going to Taiwan.
01:15:58.000It's another thing to, at the exact same time, hold a vote to induct Sweden and Finland into NATO when Russia's threatening war.
01:16:21.000The entangling alliances and the dominoes that fell and the disaster that unfolded that ultimately led to World War II and millions of people dead.
01:16:34.000Couldn't someone come out and be like, I propose we don't vote on this just yet because the tensions with China are just too hot and we should maybe wait a little bit.
01:16:42.000They were like, nope, let's ram it through.
01:17:41.000Think about it from the perspective of the United States.
01:17:44.000Imagine if Russia started sending resources into Mexico, and Mexico was talking about joining the Russian Trade Federation.
01:17:51.000And then a bunch of Central American countries were joining a military alliance with Russia.
01:17:57.000And then, there was a... Basically, in Mexico, the government gets overthrown, and a bunch of communists like Soviet people or Russians take it over.
01:18:08.000You'd be like, okay, we got ourselves a problem in the Gulf, right?
01:20:36.000We're not being taught that in our primary education.
01:20:40.000We're focusing on other things that are, you know, unfortunately, Much less important than having this overall understanding of the history of the world and how it relates to this day in time.
01:20:51.000And you think about, you know, NATO, right?
01:20:52.000Like, as a Republican, Holly being the only person to vote against NATO expansion, it's interesting to look back historically.
01:20:59.000It was the great Senator from Ohio, Robert Alfonso Taft, Bob Taft.
01:21:04.000Who, on the right, as a conservative, Mr. Republican, voted against NATO in the first place, in the first instance.
01:21:32.000And there were people on the right, pre-National Review, who rejected that and said, we don't need NATO.
01:21:40.000No, we don't need to police the world.
01:21:41.000No, we don't need to have a worldwide war against communism.
01:21:44.000Yes, we believe communism is doomed to fail.
01:21:47.000I mean, I don't know, I can't quote the person who said it, but, you know, some maintain that the most ardent believers in the validity of communism were the people in the Kremlin and the conservative movement in the United States, in the sense that we were going to amass all of these resources against an economic system we ultimately believed was deemed a failure.
01:22:10.000But there was that counter critique from the right on the Cold War, pre-National Review.
01:22:19.000When I think of World War I, I think of like, was it the assassination of Franz Ferdinand by Giovanni Precepi, something like that?
01:22:28.000But he was like a Serbian national, I believe.
01:23:29.000That's what NATO is setting us up for, is if something happens in Sweden, then they declare war on Russia, or Russia declares war on Sweden because some dumb Sweden national, and then Britain declares war on Russia.
01:23:42.000That's the wisdom of George Washington's farewell address, right?
01:23:46.000That America should avoid being in entangling alliances with foreign countries to avoid precisely the outcome that you're talking about.
01:23:54.000But the other argument is, if we had not had the defensive alignment against Nazi Germany, that he would have taken Poland, and then he would have taken France, and then he would have taken Italy, and then he would have taken over the world.
01:24:09.000But you have to, I think you have to start with World War I to analyze everything that happened right afterward, and the circumstances that led to really the most catastrophic war in human history up to that point, and what could have been done to prevent it.
01:24:32.000I mean, it was an It was eminently, in many ways, preventable war.
01:25:01.000Every week, they would make a video talking about what happened 100 years before, because 1940 was basically the centennial of World War I, and they would go week by week.
01:25:08.000Every week, there's a video about 17 million people died today in the Somme, or whatever, on this four-month battle that went on in eastern France between the British and the Trench and then the Germans, and it was just like, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
01:25:24.000They'd take like a half a mile of land and then the next day they'd get it taken back and they'd just kill.
01:25:59.000Dude, this has probably been having this discussion for 100,000 years.
01:26:03.000But, you know, to your point about what the people in 1914 to 1918 went through, the courage, the brutality of it.
01:26:14.000And then you think about the world that we live in today and the difference that each and every one of us can make in the world and the comparatively little sacrifice that we have to make to make a difference.
01:26:30.000Because standing for truth and justice in our world today, I mean, what's the worst that's going to happen to you?
01:29:02.000If we could get materials from place to place without effort, then we're talking.
01:29:06.000Then we don't really need as much con- we don't really need conflict.
01:29:08.000If we can get food into the desert through like stratospheric drone delivery or something like that, as long as people don't need to take It's going to be interesting in 50 years.
01:29:16.000I don't know if it's going to be a civil war or if it's going to be a World War III.
01:29:20.000But it's looking like it's going to be a World War III and then the U.S.
01:31:25.000But Wilson was... Wilson was a progressive, and he...
01:31:34.000And our entry into World War I really, I think you can argue, created a chain reaction and did not serve our interest or really the world's interest in many ways.
01:32:29.000Man, I can only imagine being around in like the late 40s, being involved in this stuff and just thinking to yourself like, well, long-term destruction to this country is underway.
01:32:39.000You know, just sit back and live your life while you can.
01:32:42.000I wonder if many of them were thinking that with all the stuff they did.
01:32:45.000Then you look at everything that we have now and it's just spiraling.
01:33:12.000But for a lot of us, it was just like air conditioning, fast food, fast cars.
01:33:18.000The 90s, especially we didn't, you know, most people grew up in a world where it was like, when I'm reading about world war one, I'm like, holy.
01:33:27.000Like while all this stuff is going on, they're like, the Americans are like, we don't want war.
01:33:30.000There's like Pancho Villa expansionism.
01:33:53.000So watching that footage from the world from the they shall not grow old like you see how flimsy the human body is what we think of as we're protected and all that crap like man just do what you provoke it over there.
01:34:18.000The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
01:34:21.000We've come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world.
01:34:26.000No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
01:35:08.000We are going to have a members-only segment coming up for you, and we're going to be talking about vaccine mandates and social media policies pertaining to that, efficacy, etc.
01:36:32.000I gotta tell you guys, you know, we're a bit scrappy.
01:36:34.000We have like 30 employees, and we're trying to create a subscription service and build shows and do all that stuff, so these are the early days.
01:36:40.000Try do it with a different browser, too.
01:36:50.000But this is why we also do have Stripe.
01:36:52.000Stripe isn't perfect, but they've done a substantially better job than PayPal.
01:36:57.000Locals uses Stripe, which is Rumble, basically.
01:37:00.000So we're cool with Stripe for the most part.
01:37:02.000But, you know, I got no issue with them.
01:37:04.000And their CEO has actually been responsive to issues.
01:37:07.000So I think they're better, way better than PayPal.
01:37:10.000But parallel economy is what we're actually excited to promote and be a part of because this is something new that's definitively anti-censorship.
01:42:25.000Man of Culture says, the internment of Japanese ethnics happened because of the Ni'iahu incident where a Japanese couple tried to help a downed enemy pilot escape Hawaii.
01:42:38.000Tyler W says, if it makes anyone feel better for Taiwan, China is going to destabilize demographically, politically, and economically in the next decade or so.
01:42:48.000A country that's facing a collapse is a desperate country, and war shores up resources.
01:42:53.000So like, think of the United States, and the culture war, and food shortages, military-industrial complex, One of the reasons, they say, that the U.S.
01:43:03.000economy did so well after World War II was that we blew up all of the competition.
01:43:08.000After the war, if you wanted autos, for instance, it was the U.S.
01:44:02.000Maybe the things you're typing in are taboo on the system or something.
01:44:06.000I had a video, I think it was about trans children or something, and when it went up, it was getting no views, and then it had no audio on it.
01:44:16.000On my end, when I played it, it was perfect.
01:44:18.000When other people played it, there was no audio and some people didn't even see it.
01:44:22.000And so then, you know, our social media manager here, Dane, he was like, there's no sound.
01:45:44.000I think there, I know there was a renewed effort in the General Assembly to try to get something done on medical marijuana.
01:45:52.000And, you know, I think there are It's a divisive issue for North Carolina Republicans as to legalization of any marijuana, any liberalization of those laws.
01:46:58.000Polly Bruce says, peace will inevitably come soon when the sun micro-nova the magnetic shield flips and the crust displaces again.
01:47:07.000Invite Ben Davidson from Suspicious Observer on YouTube channel before it's too late.
01:47:13.000You know what I'm really excited about?
01:47:15.000So we have Tales from the Inverted World, hosted by Shane Cashman, and we're launching a new show, The Inverted World Podcast, which is specifically a conversational show taking calls.
01:47:24.000But I also would love to see Shane sit down with all of these different conspiracy theory people.
01:47:30.000Conspiracy theory is not the right word for it.
01:47:53.000Anyway, it's not a conspiracy, this theory.
01:47:56.000It's like weird alternate history stuff, so.
01:47:59.000I'm really interested to see if we can incorporate that stuff too, like get some flat earther to try and explain what they think and then, you know, have a conversation with people who think these weird things, you know?
01:49:22.000A single Ohio-class submarine, SSGN, can fire hundreds of conventional tomahawks and destroy every warship participating in these exercises.
01:50:29.000Cliff Lord says, Ian, check out Benny Will's poem, Who Is They, on YouTube.
01:50:35.000There's a song by the singer Jem called They, and it's really funny because there's a bunch of like, you know, hate speech researchers who claim the word they is anti-semitic, and it references the Jews specifically.
01:50:49.000And so then whenever this song, whenever I put on like Pandora or something and the song comes on, It's called they and she says like who made up all the
01:52:27.000The whole series, like Electric Dreams, it's like, it's Philip K. Dick stories, but the Kill All Others story is like, basically this guy one day is watching TV and a politician says that they want to kill all others, and then he's like, what?
01:52:39.000And then when he goes to work, nobody cares.
01:52:41.000And he's like, did you see what they said?
01:52:43.000And they were like, no, you're mistaken.
01:52:44.000And he's like, no, they really said this.
01:52:46.000Like, no, that couldn't have happened.
01:52:47.000The crazy thing about it is, because of what you were saying to me the other day, Ian, where you're like, when you went and talked to your parents, and said Biden's crazy and your mom was like, no, he's not.
01:52:56.000Then you come back a month later and she's like, yeah, actually.
01:52:58.000But that first response, when we had like, Richie McGinnis and his mom on,
01:53:04.000and I mentioned that feminists are more likely And she was like, no, they aren't.
01:53:09.000It felt just like that show they're portraying.
01:53:13.000That when this politician said they wanted to kill all others, he goes to work and they're like, no, I don't know what you're talking about.
01:53:54.000Vadir Sombra says, so I have hundreds of pounds of food, many bags of sticks with thousands of food pellets.
01:54:01.000As we approach potential World War III event, how do I explain, express to those in denial?
01:54:06.000Well, I don't know if, like, look, I'll put it this way.
01:54:09.000Janet just fired a bunch of missiles over Taiwan, so, I mean, if you're gonna be a prepper, now's really the time to be a prepper, I guess.
01:55:08.000You know, like they could, China could literally launch an ICBM and they'd be sitting in their rocking chair with their shotgun being like, I'm good.
01:56:16.000Yeah, the people who start, it's going to be like Fallout, but not because of nuclear wars, because they're going to start eating fish from the Hudson and then their skin's going to start falling off.
01:56:24.000Remember that TikTok of that girl that jumped in the Hudson River with the Statue of Liberty in the shot?
01:57:27.000They probably ingested some of the water, the water's filthy, because all that crap from all the cities around Lake Michigan funnels down into Chicago, and then everyone swims in it.
01:58:38.000But I was reading like what you're supposed to do and this thing online said, you rip the leaf and then rub it on your skin and then wait 15 minutes and if there's no reaction, then you rip a leaf and then you rub it on your mouth and then you wait and if there's no reaction, then you take a small piece and you eat it and you wait and if there's no reaction, then you eat a little bit more and then after a few days of slowly increasing, you'll find out if you're safe to eat certain leaves.