On this week's episode of the TimCast: Alex Jones pleads the fifth, a new poll shows that most Americans think the media is the enemy of the people, Joe Biden is back officially and formally on the table on the vaccine mandate, and Ron DeSantis is pissed off that the FDA has ended monoclonal antibodies, at least two of them.
00:00:04.000Alex Jones testified before the January 6th Committee, and he said that he pleaded the fifth over 100 times.
00:00:11.000Interestingly, he said that some of the questions were actually kind of reasonable, but the scary thing here is that they had all of his text messages.
00:00:19.000So when someone comes to you and they say, use Signal or use a VPN, and you think they're being paranoid, let me just remind you that Adam Schiff released an American journalist's private phone records.
00:00:28.000Alex Jones's private text messages were in the hands of these members of Congress, the January 6th Committee.
00:00:33.000They know what you're saying and who you're saying it to.
00:00:36.000Well, now men on the left are saying Alex Jones pleading the fifth is proof he's guilty!
00:00:40.000Because they don't know how rights work.
00:00:42.000But yeah, we'll get into all that stuff.
00:00:44.000We got Joe Biden polling back officially and formally on the vaccine mandate because they have lost.
00:00:49.000Ron DeSantis is pissed off that the FDA has ended monoclonal antibodies, at least two of them.
00:00:54.000And we got this poll out of Rasmussen showing that most of this country thinks the press is the enemy of the people.
00:01:41.000So you guys, you know, when Rasmussen comes out with this poll showing, I think it's like, what, 58% of voters think the press is the enemy of the people.
00:01:47.000This includes, to a small degree, but many Democrat voters.
00:01:55.000Like, you know all of the BS being pumped out by these fake news institutions.
00:01:59.000Yeah, and the poll is really interesting because no matter which way you slice it, the only group that doesn't view the media as the enemy of the people is the Democrats, and it's only 37%.
00:02:10.000And, you know, you break it down among racial groups, it's whites 56%, African Americans 63%, and everyone else 60%.
00:02:19.000So black people in this country actually hate the media more than white people.
00:02:46.000I like to watch videos on mute, and I don't want to hear their voices, so more power to you.
00:02:50.000I'm very happy that you do it, and I don't have to.
00:02:53.000Yeah, that's why I tweet all those videos.
00:02:54.000That's probably how some of you have seen me before, that I'm the guy that tweets all those videos out, so you don't have to in a nice one-minute, two-minute digestible portion.
00:03:03.000Did you see Whoopi Goldberg accidentally claim the vaccines were killing kids?
00:03:24.000All right, anyway, before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member, and help support our work as members.
00:03:30.000You are making sure all of our journalists stay employed, you're helping this show exist, and you will get access to exclusive members-only segments of the TimCast IRL podcast.
00:03:39.000Monday through Thursday, and you will also get an advertisement-free experience on the website.
00:03:44.000So if you like the work we do and you want to see more of it, become a member because each and every person who does is another grain of sand in that heap and we are expanding, we are building more, we are doing more shows.
00:04:26.000Don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, take that URL, copy, paste, put it everywhere.
00:04:33.000That's our marketing budget right there, you guys.
00:04:38.000Alex Jones sat with the January 6th panel and repeatedly pleaded the 5th.
00:04:44.000Then he revealed what they asked him on his broadcast.
00:04:46.000So this is Politico's Congress Minutes, and they actually break down a bit of what Alex Jones has said.
00:04:52.000They say, here's the rundown from Jones, who called the committee's questions overall pretty reasonable.
00:04:57.000Some of these things are very interesting.
00:04:59.000Jones said the January 6th committee seemed to have a lot of detailed information about him.
00:05:03.000That they displayed images of text messages he had with Wren and Cindy Chaffian.
00:05:09.000Who organized a pro-Trump rally on January 5th.
00:05:11.000Both Wren and Chaffee had been subpoenaed by the committee last fall.
00:05:15.000Jones said he started to have doubts about leading a march to the Capitol when he saw the unwieldy crowd that had formed at Trump's ellipse speech.
00:05:22.000Quote, you know, maybe we just won't do what he said.
00:05:26.000He said he continued, however, when Secret Service agents came and opened up the gate after he arrived at the Capitol and witnessed some of the ongoing mayhem.
00:05:33.000Jones was seen on video repeatedly attempting to steer the crowd away from police lines.
00:05:40.000You need to be more direct and more honest than that.
00:05:42.000Alex Jones is on video telling people to avoid the Capitol and not to go in because it's a trick and it's a trap and it's what they want you to do.
00:05:48.000Jones was actively bullhorning to de-escalate and get people away from the Capitol.
00:05:54.000That would be very important to include, but they did not.
00:05:57.000Jones said the committee asked about his contacts with Proud Boys.
00:06:00.000He said that he aided a Hooters in Atlanta with some members.
00:06:03.000He said he didn't use Proud Boys or Oath Keepers as security.
00:06:06.000He said that January 6th, he relied on a prominent Austin-based security firm.
00:06:10.000He said the committee suggested they routinely monitor his show.
00:06:13.000He denied being aware of a December 31st broadcast in which his substitute host, Matthew Bracken, specifically suggested storming the Capitol.
00:06:23.000Jones also acknowledged that his co-host, Owen Schroer, who has been charged for egging on the crowd in the restricted area of the Capitol, was facing prosecution.
00:06:31.000Jones said the charges were for a bunch of stuff he didn't do, and he falsely said Schroer is facing years in prison.
00:06:38.000I think it's fair to say, incorrectly, falsely kind of implies he was intentionally wrong.
00:06:43.000The misdemeanor charge against Schroer carry a maximum six-month sentence.
00:06:47.000So I'll tell you right away, the crazy thing about this is that they've got his texts.
00:06:54.000The government's got your private information, they know what you do on your phone in your private time, and if you're not using a VPN and you're not using a signal for encrypted stuff, just, you know, Adam Schiff, he knows everything.
00:07:48.000You have CNN questioning whether that actually is happening.
00:07:52.000Brian Stelter did a segment on a show on Sunday.
00:07:54.000It's very similar in that The media will mock anything and everything that's happening to everyone else in the country because it's not happening to them.
00:08:36.000And this goes to the larger point of anybody who doesn't, you know, toe the line as part of that corporate machine, they think you're this crazy person, and they view us like zoo animals almost, that we can just, they can tap on the glass almost.
00:08:50.000Our friend Seamus over at Freedom Tunes made one of the funniest videos he's ever done is about the Joe Rogan-Sanjay Gupta thing, and he just plays some audio of Joe Rogan talking, and he's like, don't you think it's dangerous when a media company lies?
00:09:03.000And then it just shows Sanjay Gupta going, But then but then it then he's then it shows you know Joe again and he goes don't then he specifically mentions CNN this massive media company and then it shows this fake like CNN with two anchors screaming and crying like And it's like it says on the Chiron Joe Rogan attacks media.
00:09:23.000Yeah, that's that's what that's literally what it is Right.
00:09:26.000And this is the problem that we've had for the last however many years, which is people would say at a Trump rally, you suck.
00:09:36.000You know, the First Amendment, they believe, only applies to them, not the rest of us, because it's too dangerous for anyone else to have speech.
00:09:45.000This is the crazy thing about Alex Jones.
00:09:48.000I'm going to trigger the establishment press.
00:09:52.000I am going to trigger all of the left with the following four words.
00:09:57.000Alex Jones. I'm sorry. Is it technically five because of the a Alex Jones is a journalist. Oh, no.
00:10:07.000I remember a few years ago I said that InfoWars was kind of like a right-wing Huffington Post, but it was in a specific context where I was saying that in the election cycle, you know, with Donald Trump, InfoWars was trying very much to be more mainstream and to speak to the MAGA crowd, and that as the Huffington Post does that for, you know, liberals, Alex Jones was very much trying to do that with InfoWars.com.
00:10:56.000And while my opinion of him may be like, he's a pundit, he's a personality.
00:11:02.000On paper, legally, there should be no distinction between him, Don Lemon, or James Rosen.
00:11:10.000These are people who are speaking in the public about public policy and politics.
00:11:14.000The problem is, these people at CNN and his other outlets, they basically gloat and laugh and mock Alex while he's getting his private text messages taken.
00:11:30.000And I think, you know, they've been obsessing about this all afternoon since it came out that he testified before the committee.
00:11:39.000Five MSNBC shows and four CNN shows have spent time talking about this versus really anything else that's going on in the world, really gloating about how many times he took the Fifth.
00:11:51.000And it just shows what a crock also that this entire committee is.
00:11:54.000You can remove Alex Jones and replace him with really anyone that's going before this committee.
00:12:00.000And as you point out, you don't even have to like Alex Jones.
00:12:04.000He says a lot of crazy things and it's pretty horrible, some of the things that he said, in my opinion.
00:12:10.000But this story in particular just shows what a crock this entire thing is and how it's really something for the benefit of CNN and MSNBC's Green Room.
00:12:21.000You know, since Trump left, the ratings are in the gutter.
00:13:03.000So it's like he knows this weird stuff that nobody believes.
00:13:06.000And so my thing is, I try to look at this as neutrally as possible.
00:13:11.000The government has the private text messages of a media personality.
00:13:15.000They didn't file subpoena against him to get it.
00:13:17.000They went straight to the phone companies and said, can we have it?
00:13:20.000And the phone companies just went, yup.
00:13:22.000So this is deeply troubling to me because I think that at an underlying level it's because they're so smug about it because they assume that it will never ever happen to them.
00:13:33.000I know that the tables can turn but they don't think it ever will.
00:13:36.000And I'm not convinced that with the turning of the political tide it won't be them on the table.
00:13:40.000They don't want to set this precedent but they're just gloating in it right now because they're so incredibly short-sighted they cannot think past stage one.
00:14:08.000And they had a chorus on the steps of the Capitol that sang songs.
00:14:14.000They had this prayer service and all this stuff.
00:14:18.000So anything January 6th, they're going to drop.
00:14:21.000It doesn't matter what's going on in the world right now.
00:14:24.000You know, weeks, months down the road, you know, we could be in wars on two different fronts, and if something happens with January 6th, they're gonna be like, hey, hold on, we got something!
00:14:35.000I mean, I think the Democratic establishment is stuck, and there's nothing they can do, because they've made it their whole, you know, like, the whole party message.
00:14:45.000But when you see, like, Barry Weiss on Bill Maher, And they're all of a sudden just saying, like, right-wing tribal talking points.
00:15:15.000And then CNN set up in Statuary Hall, they set up this raised stage in the middle for their two-hour primetime event with Jake Tapper and Anderson Cooper to speak in hushed tones.
00:15:33.000If I was playing a game of, like, Civilization and I was the leader of this country, that would be, like, use propaganda.
00:15:38.000If you chose to do that, you'd pick, like, some little thing and make a big production out of it over and over again, and you're just trying to manipulate and hope they don't figure out that you're trying to manipulate them.
00:15:47.000We got social media these days, you know.
00:15:49.000If this was 30 years ago, Alex Jones is not a guy they'd want to put on TV.
00:15:53.000They wouldn't want to give him a chance to actually defend himself or speak up.
00:16:44.000Yeah, you see that video we talked about the other day where this black dude gets in an elevator, and these two white liberal women go in, and they're screaming at him to get out because he's not wearing a mask, and they're filming each other.
00:16:54.000Then the women hit the black dude, and then he's like, you hit me!
00:16:57.000And then she goes, Black Lives Matter!
00:17:10.000Yeah, so while you're, you know, at Newsbusters and you're tracking the mainstream corporate press, you got Libs of TikTok on Twitter, tracking TikTok, posting all of that absolute insanity.
00:17:21.000I gotta say, though, if you're not familiar with Libs of TikTok, definitely follow them on Twitter because, well, It is confirmation bias.
00:18:22.000The GOP is 76%, but here's the biggest one.
00:18:25.000Among all voters, 58% of people think the media are the enemy of the people.
00:18:31.000Now, I think insofar as it pertains to the Democratic voter, it probably includes us and Fox News and other channels to a certain degree, but let's be real.
00:18:43.000When people talk about the media, Only ever.
00:18:47.000They're only ever referring to us if they're specifically addressing podcasts and independent channels and things like that.
00:18:54.000So I gotta say man, you know, Curtis, you're somebody who watches news all day every day.
00:18:59.000I think most people who watch this show get it, but I'm curious your thoughts on why it is that the majority of voters in this country, at least according to this poll, think the media are truly the enemy of the people.
00:19:10.000Right, and the overarching point on this is it's all self-inflicted.
00:19:17.000And that's the biggest problem that I think a lot of these corporate media folks and organizations don't understand, and they refuse to acknowledge.
00:19:26.000And if they do, they're continuing to lie, which is they think that somehow we are responsible,
00:19:32.000independent media, non-profits, conservatives, you know, just people that aren't part of
00:19:37.000their Borg, for lack of a better term.
00:19:52.000I mean, how do you make up for thousands of minutes which we cataloged on ABC, CBS, and NBC looking at the Russia investigation?
00:20:01.000Remember when Cuomo pretended to be in quarantine?
00:20:03.000Yeah, Cuomo pretending to be in quarantine.
00:20:05.000I mean, you can look at big examples, you can look at small examples, and you go back to the bigger, more prominent ones of Dan Rather in 2004 making up things about George W. Bush's National Guard service.
00:20:17.000You can look at Jason Blair making up stories about, you know, the DC Sniper case.
00:20:23.000And that doesn't even have to do with, like, a regular political story.
00:20:36.000Brian Williams, obviously, is another example.
00:20:39.000So again, this goes to this point of a refusal to acknowledge that The reason people think you are the enemy of the people is because of your own behavior and then the other last point is just a complete detachment from what you're covering and how it's not what the people are looking for.
00:20:59.000So this seems together and it and I think in this all the points
00:21:03.000I've just made goes to the fact of whether you agree with the term or not
00:21:07.000I think no matter what you think you should be you should be able to accept the fact that people feel this way
00:21:13.000And that the reasons for it are totally valid I I've long thought you know, how much easier would life be
00:21:22.000No, I'm And I'm only somewhat joking, because I tell people, look, success comes from hard work and drive, passion, and there's a combination of other things, you know, your abilities, you need some natural talent, but for the most part, I think hard work, perseverance brings success.
00:21:37.000And I'm just like, if I allocated 16 hours a day into Minecraft videos or whatever video game, you know, we'd probably be doing way better.
00:21:44.000But upon hearing this, I'm just like, man, if we on this show really were what the media tried to smear us as, grifters just pandering to an audience, we could be making so much money if we went full MAGA or full anti-Trump.
00:21:57.000If we just played the dirty games and made up fake news like CNN does, we'd have all of the best thumbnails.
00:22:04.000I mean, to be honest, we have the Cast Castle vlog, right?
00:22:32.000So when, you know, we're producing a show that's not news, you can just easily see.
00:22:36.000You can just make up jokes that people will click.
00:22:38.000When it comes to news, and we're trying to be as honest and frame things to the best of our abilities, it's hard to attract people with straightforward, just like, here's what happened.
00:22:48.000That's what I think CNN and other media outlets figured out a long, long time ago.
00:22:53.000So these people who listen to CNN, who believe in these Democrat voters, and are told by the likes of Brian Stelter that, you know, Fox News is the evil propaganda, and Jake Tapper saying, don't read the WikiLeaks emails, you're not allowed.
00:23:05.000These are people who are—anybody who tells you not to read the news or watch other channels is trying to rip you off to make money off your ratings.
00:23:14.000And I think we should be—and I should be clear, too, that newsbusters, a lot of us on staff, Look at all kinds of media sources, not just for a living, but we want to know what everyone is doing.
00:23:27.000We will read the physical newspapers and print publications because we're all boomers.
00:23:33.000Like, they literally are at heart, you know?
00:23:37.000But in just the other week you had the president of NBC saying that we're ferociously defending the idea that it's possible to be objective and nonpartisan.
00:23:46.000Our mission is to illuminate and not advocate.
00:24:34.000It's really weird that they're in this bubble and they've isolated themselves and they're rejecting people from it.
00:24:40.000It's like, it kind of feels like they're trying to get that last little drop of olive oil from the olive.
00:24:45.000You know, everybody's always like, you got to get the extra extra virgin olive oil because that's when they take the olive, it's fresh and the oil comes right out.
00:24:51.000And then like the regular stuff you get for the bargain bin price is when it's a dried withered husk and they're just squeezing whatever they can.
00:24:59.000And the audience is that dried withered husk.
00:25:01.000But there are people who still believe it.
00:25:04.000You'd think after seven years of Russia, Russia in Russia, I was thinking it would be like that's just it was never true Wake wake if Stelter came out and was like ladies and gentlemen, the sky over Ireland is red It would you'd have hundreds of thousands of people believe it just cuz Stelter said it well And then the next day they come out and they'd be like correction The sky was not red, but no one they wouldn't see it and people would go on believing
00:25:54.000Chris Matthews, memorably, I recall when I would watch his show before I had to watch Joey Reed's show, they replaced them.
00:26:03.000He had this thing that said Trump's voters are the kind of people who, if he told them, yes, the sky isn't blue, people would believe them.
00:26:10.000You know, if they're looking up movies to watch, you know, to go see, and they say, Trump tells them the movie's at 6 and it's actually at 7, the people would show up at 6.
00:26:20.000You know, I mean, it's a classic example of projection when that's actually how CNN viewers view themselves.
00:26:27.000That somehow they're still watching CNN and the rest of us have totally moved on.
00:26:33.000And they're just, the good news is they're continuing to shrink, but yet that small segment that's still left continues to view us as dangerous people.
00:26:42.000Like to your point about Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta, he went in thinking he was about to get attacked and it was perfectly fine.
00:26:49.000I talked to Joe about that when I went on his show, and he was just like, ah, he was just trying to be funny.
00:26:53.000And I was like, oh man, Joe, you're such a nice guy.
00:26:58.000Isn't it kind of, I'll say this, you know, Joe's trying to be a nice guy.
00:27:01.000Joe's, I think, you know, Joe genuinely wants people to kind of calm down and work things through.
00:27:07.000But I'm like, isn't it kind of dangerous when a media organization publishes a piece in which they entertain the possibility that Joe would jump the table and throttle someone's neck even if it's supposed to be a joke?
00:27:44.000But the idea that the joke exists signals that there are people who genuinely fear this, you know, fear Joe and think him as some kind of bad person.
00:27:53.000Who would do something like that, you know what I mean?
00:27:55.000Yeah, and I would actually say something, it's arguably far more insidious, that I think I can say definitively, based on the people I know within the industry, that there are good people at these networks, that they know what they're doing is wrong, and that it's a bit, you know?
00:28:11.000Bill Maher and that Barry Weiss thing?
00:28:28.000Even if that should have done it for them from the very beginning, but... What images?
00:28:34.000We're just like the empty stores, you know, empty streets, you know, just the idea of that, you know, that people just, life came to a stop.
00:28:43.000But, but, so, so, you know, these are, these are public figures, but imagine the staff at, you know, at Real Time with Bill Maher, imagine the staff at CNN, like you were saying.
00:28:50.000Like, these are, these are people, they know what's going on the whole time, they don't speak out, they don't speak up.
00:28:54.000Yeah, and they know that people who disagree with them are capable of being good people.
00:29:01.000People who are ideologically opposed to them are their family members, their neighbors, their spouses in some cases.
00:29:11.000Go to church with people that they went to high school or college with and that's what really gets me fired up that these people go on television and they paint such a picture that they almost want to gaslight these people into thinking that you know your friend your neighbor next door who Yeah, it's funny too, but, you know, their key demo ratings are below 100k.
00:30:55.000There's so many other things going on in the world.
00:30:57.000And yet you're catering to the small audience that, you know, whatever John Avalon, who does this reality check segment, or Mark Elias wants.
00:31:30.000Wow, that makes me feel pretty good, honestly.
00:31:32.000I was worried, I'm like, he might actually pull in the views, because he might get hate watch.
00:31:37.000Yeah, I mean, Drake Kelly with Newsmax was two-thirds of the way to Jim Acosta's viewership.
00:31:44.000Newsmax, didn't they get pulled from a bunch of providers?
00:31:48.000Yeah, the LA Times has reported that they weren't able to with, I believe, three different cable providers and he still pulled in over 350,000 viewers last night, whereas Acosta had 500,000.
00:32:01.000Yeah, but that was mostly old people, wasn't it?
00:32:04.000Well, I mean, once you separate it out, I mean, that's true for a lot of them, once you split out the 25 to 54 demographic.
00:32:10.000He's gonna have like 70,000 in the key demo.
00:33:06.000That's real, real bad propaganda to put out to a country that might be struggling right now.
00:33:12.000And then, and of course, yeah, and they put, uh, I believe the way the color scheme works is blue, they put the Democrats in democracy, then in is white, and then red is peril.
00:33:22.000To be fair, Ian, to be fair, Ian, we're just, we're, nobody's watching it.
00:34:03.000But I'm not a fan of... You know, I put it this way.
00:34:05.000Across the board with all of the cable TV stuff, Tucker is the only one who gets like a C plus for me and everyone else like a D minus or an F. He had Jimmy Dore on last week.
00:34:16.000And let Jimmy just explode in a rage of fire.
00:34:24.000And that's why in the people that are calling for censorship, when you guys have my colleague Dan Gaynor on, why I always say things like the internet and social media are net positive is because it allows this proliferation of all these different alternative forms of media, whereas before you had three networks that had newscasts in the morning and in the evening and
00:34:46.000they weren't even all they went off air overnight they didn't even have things in prime time
00:34:51.000you know they really didn't have capabilities to break in when there would be big stories at
00:34:54.000night or the middle of the afternoon uh they really didn't have the same amount of resources
00:34:59.000whereas now you have all these different options for all these niche kinds of you know
00:35:05.000topics um and you know advocating for or all these different positions.
00:35:10.000And why would you want to get rid of that?
00:35:14.000You're upset because you're losing control.
00:35:16.000And if you're somebody like Jeff Zucker, you're not able to control America from your little green room.
00:35:24.000You know, radio is still really popular.
00:35:28.000People drive their cars, people listen to the radio, and you've got satellite radio, and people don't understand it actually is fairly popular.
00:35:34.000You buy new cars these days, a lot of them come with satellite radio, so a lot of these older formats still exist in some form, and they still have some kind of pull.
00:35:42.000So we can sit here and we can laugh about CNN's ratings being in the gutter, But I gotta be honest, YouTube props them up.
00:35:50.000So we can be critical of them and say their medium is dying, but they will be put on life support because that brand has some kind of value.
00:35:58.000You know, when CNN launched, what, in like the mid-80s?
00:36:01.000Initially, it was just like, what is this fly-by-night, you know, stupid cable trash?
00:36:05.000But nowadays, you've got, you know, I was born in 86, so I grew up with CNN always being there.
00:36:36.000So we might as well just call CNN AT&T from now on.
00:36:38.000Well, and they're about to be spun off to Discovery.
00:36:43.000As in CNN's getting sold to Discovery?
00:36:46.000Yes, AT&T is trying to, they're offloading CNN.
00:36:51.000And they've been trying to offload DirecTV to offload them as well.
00:36:56.000And that's what's really interesting that I'm really, some people are holding out hope for in 2022 when Discovery More or less takes over if they're going to clean house one of their lead investors I think even somebody on their board was on CNBC a couple months ago and suggested that we need to get CNN back to the CNN that people were called that they had fond memories of growing up.
00:37:20.000You know, I guess so primarily, like, Gulf War age people that were watching CNN in the early 90s, in the 80s, a little bit after it launched, once people realized what it actually is.
00:37:32.000But at that point, you got a really clean house if you want to do that.
00:37:36.000The challenge is that straight news dime a dozen.
00:37:40.000We've got so many people on the ground with cell phones filming and broadcasting that when it comes to straight reporting it's fairly easy to get.
00:37:46.000Now there are some things that we've seen at TimCast.com that are underserved, certain areas.
00:37:52.000So March coverage, protests and political action stuff often is extremely underreported.
00:37:58.000So you might get a reporter from a local news outlet will show up, film a few segments, and then put like a 30 second package together.
00:38:04.000It doesn't really give you the actual view of what's going on.
00:38:08.000And that's something I got started doing.
00:38:57.000They were like, you know, I can only imagine the executives are like, hmm, eating human brain didn't work for us.
00:39:03.000Maybe we can accuse the president of being a Russian spy for five years, seven years.
00:39:09.000Yeah, that one's uh, technically it's based in the realm of possibility like, you know, sure the Russians exist and Trump exists and Trump exists and it's possible in Russia.
00:39:24.000They can just make up everything and roll with it and never correct.
00:39:27.000Just Mad Libs at this point, you know?
00:39:32.000And I think that's why people really dislike CNN in particular and the broadcast networks versus say MSNBC or even Fox News because CNN passes itself off as You know, based on nostalgia.
00:39:46.000They're hoping people continue to support them based on nostalgia and basic news of the who, what, where, when, why, and how.
00:39:59.000You know, fall for it, but you very quickly see, even just on their chyrons alone, so you don't even have to have the sound on to know that it's a total joke.
00:40:08.000And so, I would say I'm more likely to be able to stomach MSNBC than I am CNN, just because you know what they're getting, they're not trying to hide what they are, and you know, you just go from there.
00:40:20.000Let's talk about this Joe Rogan, Neil Young thing.
00:40:25.000Joe, I'm sorry that they constantly drag your name in this stuff, but let's be real.
00:40:29.000I mean, Joe runs the biggest show when it comes to politics and culture, probably in the world.
00:40:34.000It's the biggest podcast in the world, but in this space, he dominates.
00:40:37.000And thus, he's always gonna be, he's on top of the mountain, he's gonna be the target of this stuff.
00:40:42.000And as we enter 2022, the midterm elections, it's critical for the establishment to push back on people like Joe.
00:40:48.000So we have this ridiculous story where Neil Young, who is an aging rocker who is not relevant, he's 76, he sent a letter to his manager saying that either Spotify removes Joe Rogan or removes all of his music.
00:41:01.000Apparently he deleted the letter and quickly backed down because Spotify was like, let me see here.
00:41:07.000Four of your songs have broken 100 million listens, and the fifth one is at 73.
00:41:12.000It's Keep on Rockin' in the Free World.
00:41:24.000In a month, he's going to be... In a month, in two months, in three months, he's just massively outperforming what Neil Young could ever produce.
00:41:50.000You know what it says to me is that a lot of these people, you know, I mentioned Barry Weiss and Bill Maher, and I keep doing it, and probably should move on, but these people know full well how bad the system was.
00:42:00.000They know people are suffering, but they don't care because it's their market.
00:42:03.000They're not willing to challenge the establishment until, you know, the polls shift in favor of, I'm sorry, the polls shift against Joe Biden.
00:42:11.000Rasmussen comes out and says the average voter thinks the media is the enemy of the people, and all of a sudden they're like, actually, I've always agreed and I've always sided with the independent voices.
00:42:22.000I don't think schools should have been shut down at all.
00:44:06.000He thought that he could somehow join forces with Spotify employees that are triggered by alternative opinions from Joe Rogan.
00:44:14.000I'll be honest, I'm willing to bet Joe hasn't even thought twice about any of this, but I like to believe that he's sitting there with his fingers crossed being like, please Spotify, break my $100 million contract so that I can get paid out instantly and then host my show wherever I want.
00:44:30.000Well, and I should point out about Jill, in the past she said during one of the presidential cycles that white men should not be allowed to run for office again, among other things.
00:44:41.000Jill should not be allowed to write for CNN again.
00:46:28.000And a lot of it is questions that everyone knows the answer to.
00:46:32.000Biden has already stated his opinion about X. Jen Psaki has already stated her opinion about this.
00:46:37.000But, you know, they want their soundbite and they want to ask the president for yet another time.
00:46:42.000Though, the only point I will give them is with Joe Biden, who knows, he may change his mind if you catch him at the right time and his brain is not properly wired for that day and his script is not up to date.
00:46:55.000You know what I just can't handle anymore is the PR responses we know are fake.
00:47:00.000The questions from journalists we know are fake.
00:47:04.000I don't understand how there was a generation of people, boomers, and to a certain degree Gen X, who would like actually sit there, you know, attentive.
00:47:14.000to a spokesman for an oil company after an oil spill, when you know they're gonna lie.
00:47:19.000When you know the questions are gonna be boring, basic, well, they do sponsor the show, so we gotta be very careful, but we do need to ask these questions.
00:47:25.000And I'm just like, why would I waste my time listening to that?
00:47:28.000It's kinda like if you're going for a family trip, this metaphor came to my mind, and you're sitting in the backseat, you're a kid, and your dad's driving.
00:47:34.000But then all of a sudden, in the middle of the trip, your dad starts screaming at everyone in the car, and you're like, well?
00:47:40.000I can sit in the car and take it and then get to where I want to go, this joyous thing I was promised, or I can get out of the car and try and find my own way halfway across the country as a nine-year-old.
00:47:50.000So these people watching the media are like on the ride.
00:47:53.000They've been sold an American dream and they think that if they sit here and take it, they're going to get there.
00:47:58.000They're going to be taken to this promised land.
00:48:33.000Barack Obama knew how to speak for sure, and he knew how to weasel through questions and things like that.
00:48:40.000I will say that this administration is so insane that actually the questions to Jen Psaki are great, even as boring and as lame as they can be.
00:48:49.000Like when Biden recently said that he thought the midterm would be illegitimate, Jen Psaki's response is, actually, he was talking about Trump.
00:49:00.000You're like, dude, we heard what he said.
00:49:02.000You're just lying now, making the whole thing worse.
00:49:04.000But I'm glad she's lying, because now it's becoming so obvious to everybody.
00:49:09.000These are canned responses with canned questions, and it is a waste of your time to pay attention to these people.
00:49:13.000Right, and that's one of my beats, actually, for Newsbusters.
00:49:15.000I watch Joy Read Show and I watch the White House Press Briefing.
00:49:19.000And some of the questions are pretty boring and straightforward, but I have been surprised on certain days how, yeah, even basic questions that journalists ask Elicit such horrible responses from Jen Psaki or whichever special guest that she has on, you know, especially somebody like Jake Sullivan or John Kerry.
00:49:41.000It is truly astounding how terrible it is and journalists, I mean...
00:49:47.000You would say, oh, it's kind of just a whatever question, but it ends up sounding like an amazing question because their response is just so terrible to these questions and they constantly have to clean up for themselves.
00:49:58.000So they're not even trying to set traps for them.
00:50:00.000It's not even a trap and they're somehow falling in.
00:50:03.000I remember this moment when the Deepwater Horizon thing happened.
00:51:00.000But I think for the most part, he basically kickstarts this format of sitting down with prominent people in a raw scenario where they can't just avoid the questions, because he's going to be like, I asked you a question, bro, give me an answer.
00:52:37.000Yeah, I think people want, and even some of us just want all of the above.
00:52:41.000To be able to have that option to look at the digestible news that you can read, for example, takes you 10 minutes.
00:52:50.000Or see a really quick, like, YouTube story, or, like, hear, you know, news and headlines on, you know, a SiriusXM channel, and also be able to have access to longer-form conversations.
00:53:01.000And it's possible because of the internet and social media.
00:53:05.000That's the reason this show is doing as well as it is, and other shows as well, because people have a thirst for that.
00:53:12.000They have a thirst for conversation, uh, and nuance, and, you know, just all kinds of opinions.
00:53:19.000Let's hit a couple stories all at once.
00:53:36.000So he's a journalist and he asked Biden on the way out of this conference or whatever.
00:53:40.000He was just like, is inflation a political liability?
00:53:43.000Joe Biden, not realizing that his mic was still on, he said, he's like, you know, inflation, what a great asset, what a stupid son of a bitch, about Peter Doocy.
00:53:55.000Apparently, Doocy said that Biden called him and, you know, said it was nothing personal, pal, or whatever, and, you know, effectively apologized.
00:54:45.000So in less than 12 hours, we've gone from that to they're doing multiple CNN segments about it, and Brian Stelter saying what Doocy asked was a provocation, even though Jake Tapper said on Jimmy Kimmel last night that the question was fairly erudite.
00:55:02.000Like it was, do you believe that inflation is going to be a political liability for you with the midterms?
00:55:08.000I do think, I think, man, part of me wants to say it's a dumb question to ask because we all know the answer to it.
00:55:15.000But it proved to be a very, very good question to ask.
00:55:18.000Right, well, and Doocy has explained this by saying that, okay, so it was a meeting of the White House Competition Council about the economy, and most of his cabinet was there, and he'd given remarks about the economy, so then reporters started shouting him questions about Ukraine and Russia, and he expressed annoyance at that, that nobody was asking him questions about the economy.
00:55:37.000So Doocy is Hey, I've got, you know, are you taking questions about the economy?
00:55:42.000And then he shouted his question about inflation.
00:55:44.000So Doocy was on topic, what Biden wanted to talk about, and he gave that reaction.
00:55:50.000I kind of get it, because if his question is like, hey, Biden, is inflation bad?
00:55:54.000Like, it's like, are you are you insulting my intelligence, dude?
00:55:57.000Like, I get why Biden might have reacted like that.
00:55:59.000But there's a chance for Joe to come out and be like, Hey, America.
00:56:11.000Why is it that we can say that exact line, Ian, but they don't?
00:56:15.000Why is it that we can be like, yo, just come out and be like, let me just be honest with you guys.
00:56:19.000So when we had the CEO of Getter on the show, we then had the CEO of Gab on the show.
00:56:25.000And I think it was Andrew Torba, he said, if the CEO of Getter came out and just was like, look, we banned Nick Fuentes because we're under a lot of pressure from these big corporations who are trying to shut us down, and we were effectively forced to do it, and we're unhappy about it, that's the reality of the situation.
00:56:38.000People would have been like, wow, I think it sucks, but I respect him for being honest.
00:56:41.000Instead, he's just like, nah, he broke the rules, so we banned him.
00:56:51.000Like, our hands are tied and we're unhappy, you know what I mean?
00:56:54.000Yeah, and how relieved everyone would be, and then we could just move on, if Brian Stelter just came out and said, I am a paid hack who Jeff Zucker tells me to, you know, wake up every day and talk about how Fox News is the enemy of the people.
00:57:09.000I understand why Brian Stelter would never do anything like that.
00:57:12.000And it's different from like, you know, Ian saying Biden could have been like, you know, he could have, he could, he can come out later and be like, yeah, I'm sorry for doing that snapping, man.
00:57:21.000You have to understand and just be like really straightforward.
00:57:23.000The thing about Brian Stelter, though, is that there's a difference between, you know, a president who's trying to maintain an image and a guy who's paid to maintain an image.
00:57:32.000So, you know, look, Joe Biden's trying to save face.
00:57:35.000He may or may not come out and be honest about why he reacted that way.
00:57:38.000Brian Stelter was hired specifically to lie to people, so he would never be honest about his position because it would just completely upend his entire career.
00:57:46.000Well, and to your point about Joe, Joe could have framed it in a kind of a folksy way.
00:57:50.000He could have said, yeah, well, even though nothing personal, but he could have just said it and he could come out and said, yeah, I'm under a lot of stress, you know, This country's facing a lot of challenges, but we're going to get through it together.
00:58:01.000You know, I ask for your prayers and support.
00:58:12.000No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Man of the year.
00:59:03.000Bullworth, that's the movie where the guy, he's a senator and he wants to kill himself.
00:59:07.000So he just starts, he hires an assassin to end his own life.
00:59:10.000And so he's just like at these meetings and he's just saying everything exactly as everyone knows.
00:59:15.000He goes to a black church and they're like, last time you came and campaigned, you promised X, Y, and Z. Why didn't you fulfill those promises?
00:59:23.000And he's like, well, because you voted for us and you're not going to vote for anybody else.
01:00:21.000I hear we are talking about the guy constantly.
01:00:24.000I just, I'm wondering when we're gonna break into that moment where, I think we're getting there,
01:00:29.000with shows like Joe Rogan's show, with shows like this, where we just have an honest,
01:00:34.000and I don't mean like revealing secrets about military and stuff like that within reason.
01:00:39.000I mean like someone literally, like imagine if you got a government official
01:00:43.000and they were like, a video was released by Julian Assange showing a drone strike killing civilians,
01:00:48.000and he said, I wish I could tell all the American people every single thing that goes on,
01:00:53.000But there's a reason why we have confidential stuff.
01:00:56.000And there's a lot of really disgusting things the American military has done, that I think if the American people found out about, they'd be very angry.
01:01:02.000But I also hope people realize that there are people who are trying their best to keep Americans safe, and that means warfare is a gruesome, bloody No, that's a hard sell for the Americans.
01:01:12.000If the people knew how we were using white phosphorus and Fallujah in Iraq, how they were using it as an incandescent to light up the scenery, but what it's actually doing is melting human skin of the civilians on the ground that they're exploding it over.
01:01:24.000If people knew that we were melting the skin of the civilians in Iraq when we were there, it would have been a different narrative.
01:01:28.000And if they found out today, I think it would be pretty jarring.
01:01:31.000But I'm saying, like, if a guy came out and said, here's why we can't talk about some of this stuff, because if you realized what we did in your name, this country probably couldn't survive.
01:01:40.000That this country is, we are wealthy, we are comfortable, and then you have to learn about the things that this country has done, and you're like, it's kind of disgusting.
01:02:42.000sitting there that Joe Biden is at the lever here. That he's the president and
01:02:50.000he's running the show whether you like it or not and they have other they have
01:02:55.000to figure out other things and now that's why they continue to focus on
01:02:59.000things like January 6th so that Trump is still a dominant picture so we don't
01:03:03.000want to see what's going on over here with Joe Biden and I think enough people
01:03:08.000are starting to see through that that it's like people as I've said before
01:03:12.000want all kinds of topics covered in their news coverage And they want their politicians to be very versatile and be able to answer these questions, like you guys have talked about, that really span the spectrum instead of just going down these boilerplate things that I think people realize that we may have done this to ourselves, but that doesn't mean we can't find our way out of it.
01:03:41.000The machine is desperately trying to prop up these shows.
01:03:43.000YouTube props up these big networks because they have to.
01:03:47.000Because, you know, they have this big, this billion-dollar, multi-billion-dollar machine to propagandize and manipulate, and it's not working.
01:03:54.000You got people in their bathrooms on their phones getting more views.
01:03:57.000Yeah, and the way you look at it is, it's this partnership with these networks that, you know, what's to say if YouTube and these social media platforms didn't do what they said, that there would be, you know, that we're going to report negatively on you?
01:04:12.000You want us to go Fox News or, you know, the way other platforms did on you guys?
01:04:48.000It's tiring, but they're doing it because they are continuing to try and survive, where, you know, they now entered our marketplace, this marketplace, YouTube and social media platforms, so that they can push everyone else out.
01:04:59.000We need to talk about what really matters.
01:05:02.000And what really matters is that a truck carrying a hundred lab monkeys crashed, some lady tried petting the monkey, and now she's got COVID symptoms.
01:07:19.000It's like, it's a lottery ticket in my opinion.
01:07:22.000That a monkey truck crashes, they're lab monkeys, and a woman just happened to be following it, gets out, decides to try and touch the monkeys, they hiss at her, she gets sick, and I'm like, this is the perfect narrative for the start of a new variant, you know what I mean?
01:08:26.000And then you take a look at what she actually posted on Facebook, and she says the symptoms are COVID symptoms, like seriously, a day from hell.
01:08:45.000And what's to say it's not COVID, but the idea that she said it and put it out there and they don't want anything to do with it?
01:08:53.000I mean, it's pretty pathetic that you're willing to stoop down to, you know, you would think when you're putting together a news story about this insanity, you would think that you would want a post, like a Facebook post, where it's a good paragraph of her retelling of what happened.
01:09:10.000You would think that you would want to include that in your news reports.
01:09:26.000Maybe they're afraid that it's going to be like, she has COVID symptoms and then she'll turn out to be like, actually, it turned out I just had the cold.
01:09:33.000Oh, but there's COVID systems, but it was a clue.
01:09:34.000I don't know what to think, to be completely honest.
01:10:04.000And they're not pushing it, whereas previously with Russia, it was this fear of something that really wasn't attached to people's lives, but now they have something that, you know, saying, if you don't do as we say, you'll die.
01:11:41.000So if she goes out and they go out and she says she might have COVID, she has COVID symptoms, and it turns out she has a common cold, people would be like, uh...
01:11:54.000When you see that in China now, there was a report I saw from one of the networks this morning.
01:11:58.000They reported that in China now, if you go into a drugstore and you buy cough medicine like Tylenol, the government will flag you and say that you have to go get COVID tested.
01:12:10.000That they notice that if you went into a drugstore and bought, and you went to the aisle and bought these specific medicines that everybody goes to a CVS or Walgreens nowadays to get, you know, Tylenol, you know, ibuprofen or cough syrup, the government will flag you and say, you need to go get COVID tested because you're buying these medications for symptoms that line up with COVID.
01:12:33.000I mean, it- Well, it's one way to inflate the cases.
01:12:35.000But we're- But, you know, we're gonna send our athletes into this.
01:13:17.000by these giant creatures who are poking you and prodding you and injecting you with stuff.
01:13:22.000And then the ship they're on crashes and you get out and you're hiding, just terrified and desperate.
01:13:27.000And they see you and they just kill you.
01:13:28.000Imagine if you were born into a country and the social media networks were experimenting on you and your government was experimenting on you and then you tried to escape.
01:14:23.000It's extremely rare, but it can kill you if you don't get treated for it.
01:14:27.000And I think there's only been ever one case of it transmitting from person to person.
01:14:30.000So it's, like, not that good at infecting humans.
01:14:34.000But that's why they're scared about these monkeys.
01:14:36.000I just feel bad for the monkey bro, who's like, I am finally free, and then he, like, climbs the tree, and he's, like, looking around, and then you shoot him.
01:14:42.000It's like, uh, spoiler alert, like, Harrison Bergeron, man.
01:14:47.000That monkey had a Harrison Bergeron moment.
01:14:49.000Stepped out into the freedom and tasted it for a moment.
01:14:52.000Is that what happens at the end of Harrison Bergeron?
01:16:05.000Yeah, and it's being called by activists, maximum pain experiments, where they take the monkeys and try and make them feel as much pain as possible to see what they can tolerate before passing out or whatever.
01:16:15.000Yo, Fauci's got a track record for doing real messed up stuff.
01:16:18.000Yeah, and speaking of Tucker earlier, that's been something he's really been talking a lot about.
01:16:44.000They would put the science first, the ethics came second.
01:16:47.000Experimenting on a populace with a rushed vaccine is like, I get it, in an emergency, maybe there's precedent, but man, it is still an experimentation.
01:16:57.000Well, I think we were talking, who were we talking to?
01:17:02.000I think maybe it was Bhatia Angusargan.
01:17:05.000The vaccines that came out with Operation Warp Speed went through the clinical trials with people who volunteered for it.
01:17:12.000And even the right was very critical of parents who were offering up their kids to volunteer for the trials and stuff like that.
01:17:17.000So they went through the basic trials.
01:17:19.000And then we had a discussion about the Nuremberg Code because people were saying that they're still doing long-term testing.
01:17:26.000Which is happening now, because typically it takes a long time.
01:17:29.000But by that standard, if that's experimental, everything is, because they're constantly rolling out new treatments that they're then collecting data for long-term studies.
01:17:39.000Yeah, it's really like only the Tuskegee experiment.
01:17:42.000The things we hear about After Effects, when things have gone wrong, is when we really can look at it and say, well, that was a bad experiment.
01:17:48.000Which, if you recall, Joe Biden confused Tuskegee Airmen with the Tuskegee Experiment.
01:17:54.000He talked about why African Americans aren't getting vaccinated.
01:17:57.000He referred to, oh, what happened to Tuskegee Airmen is a barrier for African Americans to get vaccinated.
01:18:37.000One of the stories I read is that they took people and they would stick their arms out into sub-zero temperatures to watch what would happen to a person who was in between.
01:18:47.000And then they would shatter the arm once it froze to see what would happen.
01:18:51.000And because of that psychotic research, we're able to save tons of lives when it comes to frostbite.
01:18:59.000People need to have a dose of reality.
01:19:01.000These monkey experiments are horrifying.
01:19:02.000The beagle experiments are horrifying.
01:19:04.000But sometimes we don't know what we're going to find when we do stupid things, when we do crazy things.
01:19:09.000So my thing is, I'm not going to be naive and just outright be like, we should ban all of this stuff, because I'm like, We do animal testing for medications before we put it on humans, because we don't want humans to die.
01:19:21.000And it sucks that animals die in the experimentation, but what's the alternative?
01:20:09.000Before the show, we were talking about this gentleman who got the heart transplanted from a pig, which is really interesting because they did a deep dive on him after the fact.
01:20:17.000They're like, oh, my gosh, this guy had committed a bunch of terrible crimes.
01:20:20.000And I was like, it makes sense to me that they would experiment with this weird heart on a guy who had committed crimes.
01:20:26.000It sounds terrible to say, but then we got to talking about Unit 731.
01:20:29.000I was like, this is terrible, but this is where we are.
01:20:31.000This is how we've learned a lot of the things we've learned.
01:20:34.000The news cycle on this has been fascinating because the Washington Post had this glowing story because it happened up in Baltimore.
01:20:42.000And then it was probably three days later it came out.
01:20:47.000It was a story right on the front page.
01:20:49.000And the whole thing is deconstructing what happened.
01:20:52.000That this guy was in a fight, I think in Hagerstown, got in a bar fight with somebody who was feeling up his wife.
01:21:00.000And he stabbed him and left him paralyzed.
01:21:06.000And the entire piece is because he's still in the hospital and he's not really able to do interviews, needless to say.
01:21:12.000So his poor son has been left to have to talk about this, and like, what do you have to say about this?
01:21:16.000You know, does your dad really deserve—basically, the post's trying to argue, does your dad really deserve life?
01:21:20.000And it's a really sad question here, but obviously doctors are going to look really good if this ends up working.
01:21:31.000I think I understand why there's certain people who want to keep the populace in the dark on a lot of issues, because I think regular people don't want to acknowledge the great benefits they get.
01:21:46.000They're really awful things that Anthony Fauci has authorized have have I don't know to what extent they've benefited us But it's it's not so much about what he specifically has done.
01:21:56.000I think the gain-of-function stuff has kind of screwed us substantially but in general if the American people I actually got an honest assessment of everything they've gained in exchange for the pain and suffering caused by a lot of research and war.
01:22:12.000I really wonder what this country would be like, because I remember saying this during 2015 when Hillary was running, and I would tell my friends, and I'd be like, do you like the way you live?
01:22:26.000Do you like your wealth, American empire?
01:22:30.000Do you like traveling the world and having whatever you want?
01:22:32.000Vote for Hillary Clinton, because she's going to maintain the status quo of the global elites in the war, the bombings, Syria, all that stuff, and you're going to benefit from it.
01:23:07.000We do a weapons deal with Saudi Arabia.
01:23:08.000We said we've got all these weapons We're gonna sell you you give us money that money we use to buy oil and oil free energy means human beings have to do less work Greatly benefit from all of this nasty stuff.
01:23:20.000Are we buying the oil from the Saudis?
01:24:02.000But he's refusing to get vaccinated, so they took him off the list.
01:24:05.000Yeah, how's that universal healthcare sounding now?
01:24:08.000So these people on the left, their attitude is, but vaccines are good.
01:24:12.000And I'm like, sure, okay, what happens when the government comes and says, we want you to undergo this treatment, otherwise you won't get your medical treatment and something you disagree with.
01:24:23.000Don't give the government the authority to mandate that you get a medical treatment in exchange for life-saving treatment.
01:24:28.000That's why we always gotta have private healthcare as an option.
01:24:31.000But I'm just saying, all of these, these, you know, hippie, these leftists, these liberal types, I just, I long for the day they get everything they want, in a sense.
01:24:40.000I really don't because, you know, it'd be chaos and everything would fall apart.
01:24:44.000But for them to just have that moment where they go, oh, now I get it.
01:24:52.000And then just to have that loss wash over them where all of a sudden they can't eat, they're struggling to live, electricity is through the roof.
01:25:00.000These people, You know, I've found an interesting correlation between people who are socialist and an interesting overlap between people who are socialist and people who have never been to a socialist country.
01:26:15.000I mean, they're so, I mean, they know.
01:26:18.000Well, another thing they say is that you can't lose the U.S.
01:26:21.000because this is the last place in the world like this.
01:26:23.000And I was going to say, too, that with the monoclonal antibody things, one of the things that they're saying when Jen Psaki was asked about it, she was like, oh, well, it's because vaccines work.
01:26:31.000So you're telling me that if you don't get a vaccine, you also can have monoclonal antibody.
01:26:36.000That really sounds kind of punitive to me.
01:26:38.000But that's what happens when you give the federal government that kind of power.
01:26:41.000That's not something we should be trying to do.
01:26:43.000Well, let's take a we'll take a poll of the our friends here at the crew.
01:26:50.000If you were to show your average urban liberal everything that was supporting their way of life, from war, exploitation, to experimentation, my opinion is that they would gladly accept it.
01:27:19.000I think they would, especially the urban elites in the Washington area.
01:27:24.000You look at the wealth concentrated in D.C.
01:27:28.000that continued during the recession of 2008-2009, that continued with COVID, the growth in defense contractors over the many decades that are all based in the Washington D.C.
01:27:43.000area, You can go on and on and on, and I truly think that's something I've learned from living here, living in the D.C.
01:27:53.000area the last eight years, that I've become more jaded, but I have.
01:29:11.000It doesn't bother you that people are jumping out of windows in China.
01:29:14.000I would just add, I think that my point is especially true with people in Washington.
01:29:19.000You go to some liberals in other parts of the country, outside of maybe LA and maybe New York City or Chicago.
01:29:28.000You could probably change some minds, but in terms of the ruling elites, it'd be hard to change their minds.
01:29:35.000You get a bunch of people in public, and you walk up to them and ask them, All of the benefits you receive with cheap gas, cheap products, international travel, a strong passport, come at the expense of children dying.
01:29:49.000How many children are you willing to have killed in your name to live this way?
01:29:55.000They're gonna be like, oh, that's really terrible, and none of us agree with that.
01:29:58.000But if you get someone truly, honestly in private?
01:30:00.000And it's most, I think honestly, most people would be like, I don't want to have my TV shut off.
01:30:07.000I like all of the privileges and benefits that are afforded me.
01:30:11.000If you explain to people that slavery still exists today, that people who make your clothing and make your phones are effectively slaves, they'd shut up.
01:30:21.000That's why when the conservatives criticize the left over having smartphones, they run into, you know, they go full speed in defense mode of putting up these silly comics.
01:30:30.000There's one where that guy is like, you know, there's a guy, a peasant who says, society is, you know, sucks and we should improve it.
01:30:37.000and then the guy pops out of the well going, yet you participate in society.
01:30:40.000Because they're very, very desperate to whitewash the narrative and be like,
01:30:43.000we're good people, we're good people, we're good people.
01:30:55.000I'm not a big fan of it, but I recognize and I'll be fully honest about how the world works and understand the privileges and the benefits of everything we get.
01:31:01.000Cheap gasoline, the energy we use for our machines, the energy that comes from oil from around the world and under Trump from this country, the fossil fuels.
01:31:11.000But there are a lot of people who want to lie because they want to pretend to be good people.
01:31:14.000They want to act like they're opposed to this, but they will vote for it every chance they get.
01:31:20.000You go to them in private and say, Barack Obama killed kids and signed the indefinite detention provision.
01:31:26.000You're gonna sign this, you're gonna sign away your rights, and you are going to get a dollar cheeseburger for the next 10 years.
01:31:46.000How do I stop myself from hating myself and want to destroy myself?
01:31:50.000You just realize the world is what it is.
01:31:53.000Now I think it's fair to say, you know, we actively speak out against it, we challenge it, and we try to avoid a lot of that stuff.
01:32:00.000Some of it is seemingly unavoidable if you want to operate in this system, and I'm not going to pretend like it's not true.
01:32:05.000A friend of mine who's an activist, I said, I was talking to this friend of mine, I was like, you claim to be on the left and you care about fighting for these causes, but the reality is you're only fighting for your community, for your country.
01:32:18.000And they said, that's not true, I'm fighting for everybody.
01:32:34.000They want to believe that they're good people fighting the good fight, but the reality of the world is that most people can't see that far.
01:32:41.000Most people don't realize all the pain and suffering that goes into everything they have.
01:32:46.000I get it. I don't like it. I'll try to avoid it. I try, you know, to, to, you know, products made
01:32:51.000in America by good, you know, free and fair labor and everything like that. But yo, we don't make
01:32:57.000stuff in this country anymore, which is why one of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2020 was because
01:33:01.000I would rather have a shirt cost 20 bucks that I can only own a few of if it's made by someone who
01:33:07.000gets an honest living, as opposed to helping having these, these sweatshop factories overseas,
01:33:11.000where we exploit cheap labor, where they don't get healthcare or anything like that.
01:33:16.000I'd like the world to be a better place, but I tell you, I rest assured the average person and most people living in cities would sign the dotted line and sign that deal with the devil to get cheap crap because they don't want to have to do the work to get it and it's exploitative but they're for it and they want to pretend they're opposed to it but they support it every chance they get.
01:33:36.000Have we ever had a not a slave capital society?
01:33:40.000We had the Romans, then we had the Middle Ages where it was all serfdom and slavery.
01:33:46.000And this is an interesting point because there has always been slavery in the world and people tend to try to tie it to America, which is incredibly unfair because we did not start it.
01:33:56.000And one of the things that you guys should do, because I know this is depressing, is go to humanprogress.org because I know the world looks bleak sometimes, but it is very much better for more people than it has ever been good for before.
01:34:07.000We are reducing poverty at an incredible rate, people have more fresh water, we have lower infant mortality rates, and even though people aren't actually reproducing as much as they should be to keep humanity going, there are at least other things that are making life better for most people.
01:34:22.000Let's kick the conversation up a notch.
01:34:24.000Let's say you get a president who's like, we're gonna go to war in the Middle East, we're gonna fight for the Qatar Turkey pipeline, we're gonna start a war in Ukraine to push back Russia.
01:34:31.000And if you don't vote for that and you get someone who's an isolationist, China takes over and they kill substantially more people.
01:34:37.000So the question isn't even how many people are you willing to sacrifice?
01:34:39.000The question is people will die no matter what.
01:34:41.000And it's a very, very complicated and difficult problem we face as humans.
01:34:45.000It's part of why it's been offensive wars like the history.
01:34:48.000You attack so that you don't get attacked.
01:34:52.000If we, if the United States pulls back from the world stage and rescinds the American empire, that gap will be filled by someone.
01:35:00.000And so you end up with these neocons, these war hawks who are like, I'd rather it be me than someone else.
01:35:05.000I can certainly understand that worldview.
01:35:07.000I just don't, I don't believe in that kind of philosophical, uh, moral position of, it's better that I'm subjecting people to pain and suffering because someone else would do it anyway.
01:35:16.000I'm like, well, you're committing an immoral act.
01:35:17.000We should push back against the immoral acts, but not commit them.
01:35:24.000And I'll just point out, you know, beyond products, two of the biggest events in the world this year, the Olympics in China and the World Cup at the end of the year in Qatar.
01:35:38.000That, you know, around Thanksgiving, Christmas time, everybody's gonna be tuning in for soccer, and that's been one of the huge stories, but people are still gonna tune in.
01:35:47.000You know, the reason I say it's mostly city people is because people who live out in the middle of nowhere, you know, conservative types and rural types believe in personal responsibility, are responsible for a lot of their own food, and they're willing to roll up their sleeves and do hard work.
01:36:03.000But people in cities, man, They just want to exploit, extract, not every single person, just a lot of them.
01:36:09.000You know, think about the person who works at BuzzFeed, right?
01:36:12.000How much do they pay people at BuzzFeed?
01:36:14.00050 to 90k, if you look at Glassdoor.com.
01:37:03.000Okay, it's fine, you know, that's Entertainment Tonight, you know, the magazines you read at the checkout at the grocery store, but like, seriously.
01:37:12.000Uh, to think that those organizations make the money that they do is just simply astounding.
01:37:16.000And of course, as you remember, BuzzFeed, you know, a combination with all their listicles and talking about, you know, this person's junk or, you know, this person's hairdo, they're the ones that partnered with, you know, John Brennan and Clapper and Jake Tapper to release the Steele dossier.
01:37:41.000When I worked for American Eagle Airlines doing, like actually loading planes, eventually I was an acting crew chief, so sometimes I'd be in charge of the room, but sometimes I'd be working, you know, loading the planes.
01:37:50.000getting paid you know like $11 an hour and the first time I walked into vice and saw what little
01:37:56.000these people did and how much they got I was like how is it you're getting three or four times
01:38:00.000what actual laborers are getting paid and you are doing nothing but anyway we gotta go super chats
01:38:07.000If you haven't already, smash that like button, get your Super Chats in now, and then go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're gonna have uncensored members-only content coming up around 11 or so p.m.
01:38:19.000You can check out all of our past members-only videos with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and, you know, Alex Jones and people like that.
01:38:54.000I can't read your name because YouTube blocks off the first super chat, but he says, I heard that most people with less than 90 IQ can't understand conditional hypotheticals.
01:39:05.000It's also, I think the military said someone with an, I could be wrong with this, I think someone super chatted us about this before, someone with an IQ under 80 cannot be enlisted because there's not a single job they can do.
01:39:26.000A high IQ is not indicative of pro or anti authority.
01:39:30.000In fact, someone with a high IQ could be an authoritarian despot who takes over and would be someone who's got the skills and the mental abilities could just be put in a high ranking position.
01:39:39.000But they don't want a despot to take over the military either.
01:39:41.000They don't want, like, a mastermind or... Someone who's that smart would be able to manipulate and control that system and not have to worry about it, you know what I mean?
01:39:48.000Like, someone who's that smart would run circles around the stupid people who are running the show and then take it over.
01:41:04.000He seems straightforward and honest, but for all we know, Federal agents showed up to their office with a national security letter and said, you give us a backdoor, you get locked up and disappeared.
01:41:14.000And they said, well, I'd rather not be disappeared, so here's your backdoor.
01:41:17.000I have looked at the list of what they can see, like the FBI can go through and pull and signals, one of the best.
01:41:26.000So Ian's right, unless they show you the code, there you go.
01:41:30.000We've come a long way from, if anyone recalls what happened with the San Bernardino Islamic attack in California, that was a huge story about how You know the feds were trying to crack the iPhone of either the the attacker or his wife and Apple wasn't turning it over.
01:42:09.000That would actually be really awesome considering it's like mysteries and stuff.
01:42:12.000But in fact, the Tales from the Inverted World book, you can get it.
01:42:15.000I think it's not identical, but for the most part, it's the same as a podcast.
01:42:19.000So if you check out the Tales from the Inverted World podcast on iTunes and Spotify, you can listen to the sound effects and the creepy music and Shane, the author, is telling these stories.
01:42:49.000But it's near experimental military research bases, so it's not like it's aliens or anything.
01:42:53.000I heard that they had flying machines during the Civil War, like hot air balloon type stuff.
01:42:58.000Oh yeah, it was in Udvar-Hazy where one of the space shuttles are Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex and they have an exhibit where they talk about hot air balloons and how it would be used as reconnaissance during the Civil War.
01:44:06.000I will clarify that I may have misspoken, but I don't think that's what I was saying.
01:44:11.000I said your average electrician doesn't have time to do all the news, to read all the articles that we read.
01:44:17.000So we can't expect your average tradesman or office worker to know why Fauci is a liar and how he's lying.
01:44:25.000But what we do is we actually, I mean you, Curtis, you watch the news all day every day and then pull out and call out the lies and the manipulations.
01:44:41.000Somebody who's an electrician has a job to be an electrician, so they come to us for that news and that distillation.
01:44:46.000We mean this as a compliment that, yes, a 20,000-word story in The New Yorker about, I don't know, Fauci, is not something that we believe really any person should be subjecting themselves to, that there's an incalculable number of things that you can do better with your time than that.
01:46:03.000There's so much administrative stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
01:46:06.000It was funny when I was talking to Joe about this, and I was like, you know, I record, I think, three and a half hours of content per day, maybe four some days.
01:46:14.000And he was like, yeah, but that's still only, like, what, three or four hours of work per day.
01:46:17.000And I was like, that's just recording it.
01:46:20.000Well, I think for Joe, he sees news and stuff throughout the day and he reads the news, and then he sits down in a room and he talks to someone and then he goes back to his business, whereas for me it's like I wake up, I'm reading, at night I'm reading, I sit at the computer all day just reading, fact-checking, pulling sources, you know, doing my best, and then I record after I've read enough to where I feel comfortable and understand something, you know what I mean?
01:46:42.000I think that's our- that's one of the biggest misconceptions I get from people, from readers, or just people that are curious about newsbusters.
01:46:48.000Like, it somehow sometimes gets the assumption that we're able to pound out these studies about thousands of minutes in just like, you know, four hours or something, three hours, and you're like, No, you can't do that.
01:47:01.000If you're going to do it right and you're going to actually do it accurately, because we're saying the media aren't doing things accurately, some of these things sometimes take a while for us to get going, you know?
01:47:11.000Or even just, if you want to do a monologue form for a podcast, you've got to prepare things that you want to talk about.
01:48:04.000When the left comes out with these smear pieces about us and what we do, they're lying.
01:48:08.000It is annoying when they lie and they're like, you know, these leftists who don't actually watch the show get all their only information about me comes from the Young Turks who pull things out of context or like these other fake channels that try to manipulate and propagandize by pulling things out of context.
01:48:20.000But we've criticized Trump quite a bit, literally just criticized Tucker Carlson, you know, half an hour ago or whatever.
01:48:40.000Yeah, it's like if you're a principled person, you can criticize people who are mostly on your side.
01:48:46.000That's one of the reasons why I think the right has been so appealing to regular people, is that they're willing to be like, we recognize the fault in that, and let's move forward and try and live better lives, you know what I mean?
01:48:57.000Where the left is just, cancel and censor and burn it all to the ground.
01:48:59.000We're gonna praise you, and that's always been one of my things, sometimes when we get mainstream journalists that'll criticize us, that, you know, you praised us, you know, two weeks ago, why are you attacking us now?
01:50:34.000And anybody who claims to be for free speech, but thinks you don't have a right to, you know, desecrate your own property to make a statement is wrong.
01:50:40.000And I have no problem saying Trump is wrong and Candace Owens is wrong on that.
01:51:14.000Johnny, California says finally bought a membership hearing you guys curse so casually is really weird It's like the first time a new girlfriend lets you hear her fart.
01:51:22.000Yep, that is true. Yeah, Ian. He's the worst right people think he's this mild-mannered hippie guy
01:51:28.000But as soon as we go in the members only segment he puts his suit on he's talking with you know
01:51:32.000He lets the accent come shave Completely fresh-shaven short hair too. Yeah this I can't
01:51:38.000wait for You're missing out if you're not a member it's gonna be
01:51:43.000good All right, Harry toes monkey trucker disease
01:52:51.000Well, the virus emerges around Wuhan, there's a story about someone getting bit and peed on by a bat, and then you've got Anthony Fauci funding research, and it's easily traced back.
01:54:03.000I hate how everything's a conspiracy theory when it's not even a conspiracy theory, right?
01:54:07.000The idea of a conspiracy theory is that, like, an evil Kabbalah group is committing crimes.
01:54:12.000But now it's like Flat Earth is called a conspiracy theory, and I'm like, I mean, I guess if you think the government's covering it up, but that's just like a ridiculous theory itself.
01:54:31.000I've heard the moon is left over from a commentary from an impact from planet Theia hit the earth and came out the other side and then cooled down and became the moon and that Mars, if you look at that giant 1800-mile scar across the planet, it looks like something hit Mars and skidded across the surface and ripped it open.
01:54:49.000And then you see all that iron oxide dust, probably from the magma that just covered the surface.
01:54:53.000Wouldn't it be cool if the actual history of the planet was that aliens came to colonize a perfect solar system with a gas giant, and then a war broke out in space, and they blew up one of the planets, which became the asteroid belt, and we're just like the leftover servants?
01:55:06.000You know, we were like the help of like, you know, the humans were the alien species that came to Earth.
01:55:12.000And after the war broke out, there was just like, you know, middle class people who are on the planet doing work and the ships all leave and they're like, all right, what do we do now?
01:55:22.000Were they made to watch the planet get blown up?
01:55:24.000No, no, I'm saying like, alien colonists were like, the solar system's pretty good, and so they send middle class laborers down to the planet and start doing basic work like tilling the fields.
01:55:33.000They're not highly educated, they're not elites, they're not scientists, they're just regular people who know how to do plumbing and electricity and stuff.
01:55:39.000And then conflict breaks out between the elites in the sky, and then they blow up a planet and leave, and the people on Earth are just sitting there like, now what do we do?
01:55:48.000And there's only a small group and then here we are, you know, thousands of years later, the civilization, completely oblivious to what the past was.
01:55:54.000Do you think we were seeded, the Earth was seeded with life?
01:57:37.000Like, I can imagine them sending them somewhere to experiment on them, but to transport them across the state would be another level of like, whoa.
01:57:43.000I would not be surprised, bro, if you read about what Fauci was doing.
01:59:23.000There are a bunch of people who worked in administrative stuff at Fusion, at ABC News, because I worked in the ABC News building.
01:59:30.000I worked in the ABC News building right by Central Park, and I also worked in the Univision building in Miami, because I moved from New York to Miami, and I was in the first year in New York, second year was in Miami.
01:59:40.000I thought it'd be better if I was closer to the core team.
01:59:43.000But even the people at ABC News, who didn't work for Fusion, would be like, I'm watching this insane stuff happening.
01:59:50.000You know, like the shift in narrative.
01:59:52.000They know it's happening, but they don't want to speak up because, this is why I said, my view of urban liberals is that if you went to them and said, everything that you have, and everything good that's been given to you, you can keep.
02:00:06.000And all you gotta do is sign this document ordering the execution of a child in a foreign country.
02:00:28.000For people who work for the New York Times, for people who work for these big media companies, my view is, they all know.
02:00:34.000Any reasonable, moderate, traditional liberal type, I assure you has sat in that meeting and been like, you guys have lost your minds.
02:00:42.000But far be it for me to say anything because I don't want to lose my job.
02:00:44.000So the real question is not that they're discovering this and having a moral transition, but they're finally saying, is it safe for me to come out and criticize the cult now?
02:00:53.000I've had no problem since the beginning to say these people are psychopaths.
02:00:56.000Let me come out and tell you with the same emotion I felt three years ago when I first had this thought, and I'm going to try and replay it for you right now as if I'm having it genuinely for the first time.
02:01:06.000That's why COVID is such a strong example of the hypocrisy and people finally coming to terms.
02:01:13.000You see even mainstream outlets like the New York Times say that, oh yeah, this is really terrible.
02:01:18.000This is awful what's going on here with our kids.
02:01:24.000And again, it goes back to what we were talking about earlier about honesty.
02:01:27.000People are just thirsty for honesty and tired of the BS.
02:01:31.000Alright, we'll just get one more right here.
02:01:33.000House Money says, Neil Young likely deleted his tweet because he thought to himself, oh ish, I forgot I sold 50% of my catalog a couple years ago.
02:04:40.000And go to TimCast.com, sign up to become a member, because not only do you get access to our exclusive members-only segments, You're making all of this operate.
02:06:07.000Follow me on Twitter at Curtis Hauk, all one word, my name, because that's where I tweet all of the horribleness from Joy Reid and Nicole Wallace and Jake Tapper and all the rest, so you don't have to.